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Good morning and welcome.

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Just checking here on the page I think we should be coming through

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to make sure we're not just talking to ourselves here.

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Yeah, we can we can check. Yeah, I'm just yeah you check and I'm checking.

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I think it's working. Yeah, should be.

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Well I'm going to assume it's working. I don't. Oh, hello. Oh, look at that. You see us. Are we there.

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I can see us. Here we are.

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Yes, good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning to everybody I'm sure we've going to have some, some people jumping on here.

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Any minute but everyone welcome to day two of the three day.

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If you joined us yesterday we covered some, some pretty, some pretty good content some pretty good stuff talking about, you know, what is, what is the cycle.

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What is this hidden cycle of disconnection that is, you know, been kind of secretly trickling its way down through the generations right.

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And if you missed that session. Be sure to hop on and catch up with us here today but this morning, guys, we have the privilege and the honor of, of joining our good friends Matt and Renee lands down guys just say hi to everybody.

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Yeah, so, um, guys, it's an honor for me to be to be doing this alongside you guys.

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I, you know, for a long time I've kind of looked up to you and, you know, there was, there was a once upon a time I'd probably be very intimidated to be doing this alongside you guys.

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Just because of how much I look up to you and respect you guys and what you carry what you have on your life.

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And so, for those of you guys who don't know Matt and Renee they, they were part of Bethel School of Ministry which I also was part of.

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You guys, you guys both did the School of Ministry there right. Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah, so I spent, I spent three years there as well that's where I met my wife.

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And, and these guys went through the ministry there launched out of that came straight back here to New Zealand, and pretty much straight away planted Bethel church is that correct.

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Yeah, we had we had our first daughter.

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Okay, we moved to Whangarei and started Bethel church. Yeah, yeah. And so that, you know, that has been an incredibly fruitful ministry here in the nation of New Zealand and so massive respect to you guys for what you carry and what you've built, and, and for what

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you're building so and tell us where you're at now guys.

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So we, yeah, we, we felt.

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We're in Whangarei for 10 years with Bethel church, and we felt that it was.

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It's a long story but in short we felt that it was, it was time to move on from there.

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Really, really amazing healthy good transition. Yeah, great. And, and we're now located in Taira on the Coromandel which is a really cool town in New Zealand, and

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we know we're meant to be here we're not 100% sure what we're what we're doing here.

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Yeah, which is a funny kind of a weird place to be and it's surprising how many other people we've talked to her in similar positions. Yeah, but we do know that our focus is creativity prayer missions.

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In the context of family so that's, that's pretty cool and there's some really cool kind of.

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There's an amazing community here and there's some cool things just starting to spring up in this place. They're all in seed form at the moment, but, yeah.

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Yeah, I find that quite exciting we're in kind of pioneer mode so yeah it feels, it feels and it sounds to me like there's something really happening in that space you know there's a lot of a lot of interesting movement, you're also over there with Benji which is

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cool. Yeah, yeah.

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So, um, did you guys I don't actually know this part of the story did you guys meet before at Bethel ministry school or after we met.

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We met each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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yeah no we met before um uh we how long have we been married before before we went to business

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we've been married for two years right and we went over in 2008 got married in 2006

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okay so yeah um we went over as a married couple yeah cool cool cool yeah i had the privilege of

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meeting my wife there and we actually got married while we were in the ministry school together so

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that was oh you got married while you're at school yeah we got married while we were in school

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yeah we had just started um our internship when we got married so pretty cool pretty

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cool place to have a foundation of a marriage yeah definitely yeah yeah um so maybe you guys

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could could fill us in a little bit um actually i think first what we'll do um i think we could

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just open up in some prayer and then i'll ask you a couple more questions and then we're going to

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talk a little bit more about sozo um but matt would you mind just opening us up and in some

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prayer and just um you know inviting holy spirit right yeah yeah yeah yeah father we thank you god

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that you are so good we thank you that you're a good god and a good mood and you do good things

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and that's the gospel and right now jesus we honor you we just um acknowledge your presence here

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yeah holy spirit we thank you that you are um in every room represented by anyone uh logged into

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this call into this session and we thank you god that you're with each one of us um

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and we just thank you for that god we thank you that you're in the very air that we're breathing

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and we just bless this time i ask you god for um living wisdom to be imparted into people's

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hearts and minds into their families into their parenting into their marriages and into their

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hearts yeah god in this session and that there will be real transformation not just fleeting

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transformation but a lasting transformation out of this session and out of this time in jesus name

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amen amen amen thank you awesome and this is going to be powerful guys this is really powerful

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talking about this morning um has had a radical impact in my life um as well as many

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uh many lives of people that i know and um you know lasting transformation like what i meant

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is talking about lasting transformation but you know i'd love to hear a little bit more

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um about your stories you know we're kind of talking about these encounters with god that

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changed the way we think about him right and changed the way that we um even thought about

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ourselves or things that we believed um i talked a little bit about that for me yesterday but

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i'd love to hear um a bit more from you guys about your personal journeys around you know

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some of these encounters that changed the way you um believed about god um some of this lasting

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transformation so um would one or both of you like to just share a bit about you know some maybe one

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or of you know a bigger picture of your journey around um those encounters that kind of changed

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everything yeah yeah um well there's you know i think there is a short story yeah which is is

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still long but could be made as short as possible and then there's a long story which has multiple

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different you know encounters and and um treasures along the way but um yes in short we can answer

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that question what um do you want to say anything well i have a bunch of testimonies i'd love to

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share not just my own but some sources that i've walked through with some people um but i'll do

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our journey first yeah so shall i go first well do i mean that's up to you do you want to share

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a story about how you encounter god so um i love i've basically got to make it really

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streamlined connected to sozo so that people understand like for me so it's all about just

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connection with god right that's it yeah and when you have connection with god so much beauty

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and breakthrough freedom and love happens and so um yeah one of my biggest ones which is interesting

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um was getting breakthrough with my brother and with myself because um i'm the eldest of four

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and my relationship with the four as a child was motherly and like i found

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a lot of responsibility.

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And I felt like the weight of the world was on my shoulders

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to make sure that those beautiful siblings of mine

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that I would die for, literally,

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were doing well in life.

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And carrying that kind of thing as a child was my choice.

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My parents never put that on me, but it was my perception.

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But when my mom and dad asked me to do something,

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the personality that I was created with and designed with

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would receive that in a way that I perceived,

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okay, they're relying on me 100%, which they weren't.

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So the way the child perceives

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what is being done in their world

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is different to what the reality really is.

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And so there's a lot of stuff that needs to be released

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or forgiven because of perception.

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It's not necessarily real, but you receive it as truth,

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but it's actually a lie.

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And it becomes a barrier in your adult world

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when you can't let that go, that it will sabotage.

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So basically, I was realizing in my sozo

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that I had decided because I had failed my brother,

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and then my parents had failed my brother,

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and then God had failed my brother.

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So, shoot, I have to be God for my brother.

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Literally, I was like,

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I didn't know that I had created that,

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what would you call it?

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Covenant with my brother subconsciously,

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but I had decided no one has been good enough for him.

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And so I'm gonna have to stop being God for him.

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And for me to say, I repent,

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I pretty much needed to say, I'm sorry, God,

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I've been trying to do your job.

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And invite him into that space and ask God, where were you?

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And what did it feel like for you, God,

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when these things happened to my brother?

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And what were you doing for him?

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And just allowing God to fill me with truth,

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like how he felt about my brother

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and how he felt about the things that happened to him

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and how he felt about the things that happened to me

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because of that and releasing.

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I couldn't say, I couldn't get the words out

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for like a good five minutes in my sozo

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of I release my brother.

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So I didn't realize how intensely I was wrapped up

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and trying to be the protective guardian of my brother.

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I still am in a sense,

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cause that's why God designed me as the eldest of four,

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but I'm not ever meant to take God's place.

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And I was like, I can't believe I can't say this.

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And that brought so much freedom for me

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to actually be present with my own family

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if I'm gonna like put my brother above my children,

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I'm not, yeah.

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Lots of different layers happened for me

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before kids when I had this sozo,

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but just realizing the level of priority

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I'd put my brother in my life,

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an unhealthy salt I.

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Yeah.

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Isn't it interesting that so much of what we believe,

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I talked a little bit about this yesterday,

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but so much of what we believe

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we don't know that we believe.

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Yes, exactly.

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And it's all wrapped up in kind of this subconscious

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or this inner child space of things that our psyche

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or our inner child interprets.

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You know, it's kind of like,

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we're great as humans at receiving information as kids,

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but because our brains haven't developed,

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we're horrible at interpreting that information, right?

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So we kind of latch on to these notions and these ideas

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and these beliefs that are so core to who we are,

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but we have no idea that they're even in there.

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Wow.

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Yeah, that's really powerful.

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So, you know, did you wanna talk,

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I'll leave this to you, Renee,

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did you wanna talk a little bit more

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about kind of the breakthrough moment

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and how that came about,

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or do you wanna share more about those testimonies?

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Yeah, well, I believe the moment for me,

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cause I felt like I could no longer,

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I was too scared to connect with people

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because I naturally want to rescue.

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And learning that about myself and the so-so,

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like, what's a healthy way to be,

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I've always had the prophetic word,

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you're gonna be a mother of mothers,

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you're gonna be mother of natives.

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And I'm like, that's quite a big, heavy load.

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I don't think I wanna do anything related to that.

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And walking through healing with like,

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no, this is your calling,

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but there's a healthy and an unhealthy way of doing that.

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And God showing up and saying, no, he will be God.

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I can trust him.

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And so much like,

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weight lifted off my chest, lifted off my device around me.

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Wow. Seeing his goodness in that.

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So I was just like, so there's so many breakthrough moments,

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but that was quite a personal one related to family because it's my brother.

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It's so powerful.

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Yeah. And how it related to Jesus.

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Like, yeah.

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So, yeah, that's just one little.

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I love it.

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For me, that's powerful.

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That's powerful. Thank you for sharing that.

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Over to you guys.

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Matt, do you want to share your any, you know,

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any experiences that you've had in that space?

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Or Renee, do you want to talk?

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You mentioned you want to talk some more about testimonies.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, one of the, as far as the moment where God,

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where I realized that I was believing a lie about God

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that was preventing me from coming nearer to him.

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In terms of my relationship with him,

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I had one of the standout moments for me was in Ecuador.

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This was actually while we were at BSSM as well.

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I think it was the first year, second year, one of the years.

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And I was with a guy.

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He's actually passed away now.

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Jim Legend.

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I don't know if anyone on this live knows Jim from Ecuador.

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American guy.

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He's such a champion.

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We were praying together.

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And as we were praying, the presence of God just came over both of us.

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We're actually meant to be going out.

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It was like a prep, you know,

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like a team talk before going into the meeting with the team.

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And we were meant to be in the meeting,

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but everyone, our whole team left.

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And me and Jim were left in the room.

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He's like the leader of the whole movement.

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What happened was I could actually, in my encounter,

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And that was just kind of a cool fact.

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We're just sort of almost just playing with Jesus.

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So I sort of said goodbye to Jim.

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but it was in my imagination.

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There's just a bit of chatter in the background.

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Hopefully that's fine.

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That's fine.

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And we walk into this house together.

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And he said, there's someone I want to take you to.

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And I said, cool, cool.

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I was all excited.

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It was really everything was all so fun and exciting up until this point.

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And then we got to this big door and I knew what was behind the door.

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It was the father's office.

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Now, when I was growing up, my childhood was a great childhood.

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And my dad's an amazing dad and incredible dad.

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was I was never allowed to interrupt dad when he was in his office.

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So when dad was working, he was unavailable to me.

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Off limit.

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You have access to dad, but when he's working, which was all the time.

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You have no access to dad.

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Work is more important than you, Matt.

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That's the lie I grew up with without really knowing it.

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I'm trying to back out.

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My feet are moving the other way and Jesus pushing me forward.

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It's going to be fine.

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And then I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

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And he opens the door and I see the father and he's just on his desk.

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And it looks like the most important work in the world.

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He is in the focus zone, just getting his work done.

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There's like bits of paper and pens and maps and plans.

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I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is like the worst moment.

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him in his office. And I'm freaking out thinking I'm going to get rejected by Father God.

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And then the father looks at me, sees me and he says, he just all in one motion, he gets his one

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hand, swipes everything off his desk, all over the floor. And then he looks at me and he says,

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Matt, I've been waiting for you to see me here in this place. Come here, I want to show you

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something. And I walked over to Father God, he put me on his knee and he was just so delighted

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that I would interrupt him. That I would know that I had the place to interrupt him, which I

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didn't know I had that place, Jesus had to show me that. But then I knew I had the place to

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interrupt him in the middle of his busy work. He took this book off his shelf and it had Matt,

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my name written down the spine of the book, opened the book up and I sat down with the

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father and we started to plan my life out together. That became his, we started a new project.

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And it just marked me, I realized from that point, like, wow, I actually have access to God.

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Like I'm invited. I am delightedly invited into the presence of the father at all times.

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And so that was a real marker moment for me. Wow. That's such a powerful story, Matt. And it's so

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in line with what we're talking about, right? Because it's like how we've experienced our

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parents is how we subconsciously we receive that information and we interpret it in such a way

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and it stays with us. And then that's how we interpret God. And for me, one of those examples

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is just briefly, and then we'll back over to you, is when I was a kid,

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my parents or my dad, a lot of times they would say, we're gonna, this weekend, we're gonna go

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do this. We're gonna go do that. We're gonna go to Disneyland or we're gonna go out and

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play baseball or whatever it is. And quite often when the time would come around,

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they'd just be too tired. And so I've realized recently that, but not always, right? So,

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but half the time it would happen and half the time it wouldn't. So I've kind of realized recently

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that I've, is really recent for me, right? I've kind of realized I've projected that onto God.

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Like he says, he's going to take care of me. But the reason it's really difficult for me

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to actually believe that is because I have this subconscious belief that he takes care of me

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about half the time. And so that's why it's hard for me. And I still struggle with like,

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oh, I can just rest in peace and knowing he's going to take care of me all of the time because

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he's, you know, he's God. But we get so connected to these experiences and we project them onto who

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he is. So that's just another practical example. But wow, thank you for sharing that, man. It's

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powerful. That's really powerful. And then I guess, Renee, I guess over to you, like what

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would you like to kind of take us into a little bit more about SoZo and then lead us into what

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it looks like? Yeah. Well, basically, there is a bunch of different tools that are just perfectly,

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beautifully designed to connect you with God, to find out the lies that you've been believing

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since pretty much your childhood or interactions with relationship. That stops you from receiving

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love, stop you from feeling safe around God, even stop you believing the truth about God. And

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I basically love just hearing experiences because it shows you what a SoZo is. So that

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amazing story you just shared, I have one as well, where my dad would work an hour and a half away.

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And so he'd leave before light and get home late. But he had told me when he was home,

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but because he wasn't at home, during a lot of my young years, I perceived that he didn't have

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time for me. So I perceived I wasn't good enough, even though when he was with me, he would do what

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Matt didn't do. And he would wipe his way and stuff. And I could sit on the top of his work

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and just have fun with him. But I'd have to go down to the

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rumpus room to find him. He felt like my perception was I was facing that connection. And so

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when God showed me that, that was a lie that I'd believed. And the truth is,

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he always has time for me that I

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I am enough for him, that I am worthy of love.

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And he put me on his shoulders like a big lion.

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And he took me like Aslan with Lucy, just all over the show.

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I just cried for probably a good 10 minutes

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of nuzzling into his mane and feeling like,

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okay, this big, beautiful, amazing lion is my Papa God.

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Like, no matter what business he's got to do,

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whether it's lying down in the pastures and resting,

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or whether he's got some business to do,

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I can be right there and riding on his back.

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And I am good enough to be there next to him,

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no matter what his role is in the world.

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And that was a huge breakthrough for me.

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So really it is, it's just,

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the main tool I want to take everyone through today

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is called the Father Ladder.

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And it's connecting you with one of the three God heads.

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So Father God, Holy Spirit, or Jesus.

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Because I've had to walk a lot of people through saying,

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I forgive you, Dad,

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for not being a good representation of Father God.

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After they've found out some beautiful truths

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that are then put into their hearts,

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they realize like, oh, okay,

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God is not like that.

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And he's not going to treat me like that.

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And from today's date onwards, I'm going to believe that.

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And I'm going to keep coming back to that

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when I want to go down the old familiar pathway

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of I'm not good enough.

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Actually, no, on the 17th of September, 2021,

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God reminded me and showed me a beautiful breakthrough

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that that's no longer my truth.

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So yeah, the Father Ladder.

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So the Father in our biological world,

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he is the one that brings us,

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he's got the gifting of protection.

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He's got the gifting of provision.

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Not that the mother can't do that,

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but there is a gifting that God has put on the man

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to do that, to create identity.

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The mother can bring identity.

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The mother can bring provision.

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The mother can bring protection.

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on the male to do that.

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there is some lies that we've believed

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that he can't provide for us sometimes,

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that he can't protect us sometimes,

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and that sometimes our identity in him is all skewed.

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The learning to realign and find out

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what are the lies you believe about Father God

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are quite parallel to some wounds and lies

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that have happened to you through your years as a child.

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So yeah, I want to walk some people through that today.

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Yeah, great.

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It'll be fun.

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And the same with the mother,

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there's some anointings on the mother

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that are just what God's created and designed into humanity.

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And same with your siblings.

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There's some anointing on the siblings

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so that relate to Jesus with siblings.

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So it's really powerful stuff.

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It can be real simple and cheesy,

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and people want to just like flip it off

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and like actually know these things

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that you think are just a cheesy truth

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end up being like, wow, I really needed that.

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So many people that have walked into Sosa's

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have said, look, I don't listen.

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I don't hear God.

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I don't, he doesn't, I can't like hear what he has to say.

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And every single person that's walked out,

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and I've been doing it since we were in Bethel in 2008,

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has gone out with God speaking to them.

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So a lot of people confuse that when you ask God a question,

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he doesn't talk to you in English sometimes,

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it's through your senses.

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Actually, because it's you, he's talking to you,

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and it's actually your voice.

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Because you're the vessel he's talking to you through.

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So it sounds like your voice,

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but if it's not encouraging, endorsing,

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uplifting, loving, kind, it's not God.

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Yeah.

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So when you're asking God for truth,

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Father God, what's the truth?

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And it's none of those good things.

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It's not God's voice.

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It's like, okay, no, that's probably an old voice,

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or it's my insecurities trying to be loud again.

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Yeah.

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Who else do I need to forgive God?

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When did this first happen to me?

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Is there something deeper, a deeper route

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that you want to show me where you were, God,

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and what you were doing and who I need to forgive there?

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So I encourage people to book in with a sozo,

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but we're going to do a small thing.

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If I can, I just want to share something really briefly

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on that note.

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I actually had a sozo about two weeks ago,

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just did a Zoom thing.

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And I was just going after some stuff

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that I've been wrestling with.

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And, you know, I traditionally just...

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vulnerable traditionally have kind of been one of those people who've been like, I really kind of

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struggled to hear from the Lord. And it's all wrapped up in this experience with my parents.

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And that's another story. But, you know, I guess my point is, I came out of that sozo,

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even though it wasn't like this, you know, in the moment, it didn't feel like this revolutionary

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thing. I did feel like I heard a couple things that were actually, you know, really relevant.

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Um, but on the other side of it was kind of like, yeah, that was good. That was good. You know,

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but then moving forward from that, it just felt like something almost immediately shifted

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coming out of it. And I'm like, suddenly I'm like, Oh, I feel like I'm hearing the Lord say this to

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me. That's interesting. I'm hearing like, I feel like I'm hearing the Lord say this thing. It was

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like after the fact. And I think sometimes just the simple act of positioning yourself in a place

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of hearing from him and receiving from him, even if it doesn't necessarily happen in that moment,

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is like a prophetic act that breaks something. Yeah. Yeah, that's so good. There's a lot of

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power in just positioning yourself. And, you know, even if necessarily in this moment that we're

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about to have it for the people joining us now doesn't feel like something's happening right

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now. And for many of us, it will, I think just knowing that it's that positioning your heart

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in a place of saying, hey, I'm actually ready to take the next step with you, God. And it's this

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prophetic act that actually breaks through things in the spirit realm and unlocks them

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and allows things to start flowing as you move through it into the other side of it.

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Yeah. I think too, just to interject for a second, when God speaks and your heart is open to receive

467
00:31:43.040 --> 00:31:53.120
his word, when you recognize it, even if it feels like dull and, you know, maybe subtle and quiet,

468
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:58.720
when you're open to receive it and you recognize it and you say yes to it, which is what you would

469
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:05.040
have done in that sozo. Yeah. The thing about God's words is they're all like seeds and they

470
00:32:05.040 --> 00:32:11.360
all grow and they all bear fruit. Yeah. And so you notice that something that starts so small

471
00:32:12.320 --> 00:32:19.360
and often so subtle becomes almost like louder and louder and louder and more and more shaping

472
00:32:19.360 --> 00:32:24.560
as the days and weeks go on. It's quite a fascinating thing. I can recognize what you're

473
00:32:24.560 --> 00:32:32.640
saying. I've experienced the same thing in my life. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. Cool. Over to you, Renee. Yeah.

474
00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:33.360
Yeah. So

475
00:32:37.600 --> 00:32:43.600
sometimes you can get triggered, though. Yeah. Because of your own personal,

476
00:32:43.600 --> 00:32:46.800
I have no idea because I can't see the people that are here today.

477
00:32:49.600 --> 00:32:54.160
Ari's singing really loud in the background. Our kids are getting ready for school, so I'm just

478
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:59.040
going to cruise off for a second and come back. They're like, Ari's singing at the top of her

479
00:32:59.040 --> 00:33:04.160
voice. I don't know if you can hear that. That's great. But I might just remind them that we're on a call.

480
00:33:06.560 --> 00:33:09.760
Yeah. So what I love about sozo is you've got,

481
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:17.600
it's all about, it's your sozo when you're in a room with someone that's hosting you,

482
00:33:20.080 --> 00:33:25.920
that's outside of your emotional connections to your past. And they're there because they

483
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:32.240
love you. They're there because they want to honor and respect where you're at. And you can

484
00:33:34.080 --> 00:33:37.280
hear thoughts that you wouldn't necessarily hear yourself.

485
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:44.240
But you can actually have a sozo in a shower if you know the right tools. Exactly. When you're

486
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:50.720
alone going for a walk on the beach, when you're driving your car and just realize I've just been

487
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:57.440
triggered when I had a conversation with my mother on the phone call. Like, okay, Father God,

488
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:05.360
what's going on there? Do I have an unhealthy cell tie there? Do I have some lies, I believe,

489
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:15.840
where I'm handing over unhealthy power to my mom? Or like, how can I bring health to

490
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:23.920
the discomfort and feeling I've got after my phone call with mom? Because I know she loves me.

491
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:31.679
You're right. I love her. But there's stuff going on that I can't see right now. So bringing it to

492
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:37.679
Father God or bringing it to Holy Spirit. Right. Because that's the parallel. Yeah. And saying,

493
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:42.400
okay, this is a scary space for me, Holy Spirit. Jesus, could you be with me while I do this prayer

494
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:49.360
with Holy Spirit? You can look so many different ways. If you feel safer with one of the Godhead

495
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:54.800
than Holy Spirit, then just say, Jesus, I need you to be right here next to me. Come close

496
00:34:55.520 --> 00:34:59.280
while I am doing this prayer with Holy Spirit.

497
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.360
I just realized maybe my mom was a little bit of a whirlwind

498
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.560
when I was growing up because she was busy and just so much.

499
00:35:07.560 --> 00:35:10.640
And I feel a little bit unsafe in that atmosphere.

500
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:11.720
Right.

501
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:12.520
Yeah.

502
00:35:12.520 --> 00:35:17.040
And Jesus, I need or Father God, whichever that you're safest with.

503
00:35:17.040 --> 00:35:19.120
Can you just be right here with me while we do this?

504
00:35:19.560 --> 00:35:23.440
This prayer and releasing whatever it is that I'm needing truth in.

505
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:24.040
Yeah.

506
00:35:25.200 --> 00:35:26.200
So, yeah.

507
00:35:27.200 --> 00:35:32.480
So we've got a little PDF thing that I thought would be helpful

508
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:34.000
to share with you guys afterwards.

509
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.400
And it's super basic because I won't be in the room with you.

510
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:42.880
So it's Holy Spirit that you need to go through any prayer that you do.

511
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:44.800
And it's all based on forgiveness.

512
00:35:45.160 --> 00:35:49.160
That's so it's God commands it in the Bible.

513
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:51.920
And there is a really big reason.

514
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:53.520
And there's a lot of teaching behind that.

515
00:35:53.520 --> 00:35:56.080
But we know it as Christians.

516
00:35:59.560 --> 00:36:01.960
And we have got our beautiful little five year old here with us.

517
00:36:03.520 --> 00:36:05.280
So, yeah, I don't know.

518
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:08.240
Do we just launch into walking through that?

519
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:11.360
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think so.

520
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:14.920
And I'm just I'll bring it up just in case I forget what I said.

521
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:17.200
You guys like to get that.

522
00:36:17.560 --> 00:36:22.160
Yeah. And we'll figure out how to post this on the Facebook guys.

523
00:36:22.160 --> 00:36:23.120
It's a really cool tool.

524
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:25.280
That Renee's put up for us.

525
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:27.400
So thank you. Thank you for that. Yeah.

526
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:30.680
Yeah. So if you are feeling triggered,

527
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:34.160
then you just need to say, Jesus, come close.

528
00:36:35.040 --> 00:36:37.760
Yeah. Yeah. Where are you right now?

529
00:36:38.600 --> 00:36:41.480
Whichever one that you feel safest with, come close.

530
00:36:41.560 --> 00:36:45.520
Like, really, what do you say about me, Jesus?

531
00:36:45.560 --> 00:36:47.640
So this is not a fatherly at all.

532
00:36:47.640 --> 00:36:51.240
Whenever I do a social with someone, I want them to leave feeling

533
00:36:51.520 --> 00:36:54.080
loved by God and safe.

534
00:36:54.080 --> 00:36:57.880
Yeah. Loved by God and safe that they've connected with God

535
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:01.480
in a place that they fully are loved and fully safe.

536
00:37:02.160 --> 00:37:06.240
So if they are like a worst scenario,

537
00:37:06.600 --> 00:37:08.760
father wasn't physical abuser

538
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:12.760
because we're going to start with Father God or your dad.

539
00:37:13.560 --> 00:37:17.640
Look, just switch it out to Jesus and maybe go and have a social

540
00:37:17.640 --> 00:37:21.200
with someone that can walk you through that in a place that you can be safe.

541
00:37:22.200 --> 00:37:24.000
Otherwise, say, Jesus, come close.

542
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:26.280
Where were you in that moment?

543
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:28.480
That's a tool called presenting Jesus.

544
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:30.720
And what were you thinking about me?

545
00:37:30.720 --> 00:37:34.280
And what were you saying over me when this event was happening?

546
00:37:34.520 --> 00:37:38.720
So these kind of questions are just so powerful to bring God

547
00:37:38.720 --> 00:37:45.160
into a painful memory and any lies that we've picked up from that event

548
00:37:45.160 --> 00:37:48.760
and find out the truth about who God really is and how he was like.

549
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:53.000
I've had experiences where Jesus showed them that he was in between them

550
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:57.680
and the perpetrator and how he was just crying and cuddling them.

551
00:37:57.680 --> 00:38:01.720
And it just brought so much healing to that beautiful woman.

552
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:05.320
Yeah. Of Jesus being in that moment and all the words

553
00:38:06.040 --> 00:38:08.720
he was saying over her as he was cuddling her in that moment.

554
00:38:08.720 --> 00:38:11.840
So, yeah, it's an important tool when you're feeling super triggered

555
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:14.080
is to say, Jesus, where were you in that moment?

556
00:38:14.200 --> 00:38:15.560
What were you saying?

557
00:38:15.560 --> 00:38:18.000
And how do you feel about me?

558
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:21.040
So we always start with getting information with the tools.

559
00:38:21.040 --> 00:38:24.760
So if you guys want to close your eyes, you're not distracted.

560
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:28.560
Let God be.

561
00:38:30.120 --> 00:38:33.200
The one giving you the main information, it's not my voice

562
00:38:33.200 --> 00:38:35.680
or Tyler's voice or Matt's voice, it's God's voice,

563
00:38:35.680 --> 00:38:39.480
that's the most important when you're wanting truth.

564
00:38:40.240 --> 00:38:43.160
I can give you truth, but your heart won't necessarily believe it.

565
00:38:44.120 --> 00:38:48.200
When God gives you truth, your heart accepts it way more

566
00:38:48.200 --> 00:38:50.360
than the truth that I can share with you.

567
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.920
It's something that he just knows how to get to spots that I have no idea about.

568
00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:58.480
He knows you. He knows you so beautifully.

569
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:00.640
So the information.

570
00:39:00.640 --> 00:39:02.760
So when you close your eyes.

571
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:06.760
I'm just going to pray.

572
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:11.320
Thank you, God, so much for this opportunity to be here with so many.

573
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:16.200
Throughout the world, and I just ask right now for your voice

574
00:39:16.200 --> 00:39:19.440
to be the loudest voice in the room to put a protection around them,

575
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:24.160
to surround them in your angelic law, God, to make them feel safe right now.

576
00:39:24.160 --> 00:39:26.520
No, God. Yeah.

577
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.360
To bring your love.

578
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:34.440
Yeah, but that have some amazing breakthroughs

579
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:36.280
going forward from today onward.

580
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:41.120
Look, will you show them where you are in their lives and who you are

581
00:39:41.120 --> 00:39:45.280
in their lives and who they are in your heart, little girl?

582
00:39:48.040 --> 00:39:51.760
So as your eyes are closed, I just want you to say this out loud.

583
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.560
Father God, are the God of the God.

584
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:59.520
How do I see you? How do I see you?

585
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:07.840
And the first thing that comes to your imagination, just roll with it.

586
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:14.560
Even if you're like, I don't actually think I believe that about you, God, or wow, I didn't

587
00:40:14.560 --> 00:40:23.040
expect that, or I'm not sure how I see you, but I can sense you.

588
00:40:23.040 --> 00:40:27.720
I can feel you.

589
00:40:27.720 --> 00:40:33.040
And if you aren't sensing or feeling, ask Father God, whereabouts in the room with me

590
00:40:33.040 --> 00:40:37.800
are you?

591
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:49.760
And according to what you're sensing is where you have the control to say, is there something

592
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:57.120
between me and you, Father God, that's hindering our relationship?

593
00:40:57.120 --> 00:40:59.840
Yeah.

594
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:06.880
And because I'm not in the room with any of you, I'm not able to help you guide who you

595
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:12.800
need to forgive and what it is you need to forgive.

596
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:17.640
But I believe God is speaking to you now.

597
00:41:17.640 --> 00:41:23.760
And if you feel like God is far off in the room, or if you feel like God looks not as

598
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:37.120
friendly as you would hope, then you ask Father God, what is it I need to forgive my dad for?

599
00:41:37.120 --> 00:41:43.120
Do you need to forgive your dad for not being there for you emotionally, like the way that

600
00:41:43.120 --> 00:41:46.320
you desired as a child?

601
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:50.120
Do you need to forgive your dad for not being there for you physically, the way that you

602
00:41:50.120 --> 00:41:56.160
desired as a child?

603
00:41:56.160 --> 00:42:00.640
Do you need to forgive your dad for not knowing how to celebrate you when you needed him the

604
00:42:00.640 --> 00:42:04.640
most?

605
00:42:04.640 --> 00:42:10.240
Do you need to forgive your dad for not knowing how to stand up for you and have a voice in

606
00:42:10.240 --> 00:42:17.200
your life when you needed him the most?

607
00:42:17.200 --> 00:42:27.600
Do you need to forgive your dad for the way you've perceived him to be?

608
00:42:27.600 --> 00:42:30.600
I forgive you, dad.

609
00:42:30.600 --> 00:42:33.440
I forgive you, dad.

610
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:46.560
For how you made me feel.

611
00:42:46.560 --> 00:42:51.160
And I don't know any events that have happened in your life, but just releasing now in your

612
00:42:51.160 --> 00:43:03.200
own words, forgiveness, for not showing up for you when you needed him, for not

613
00:43:03.240 --> 00:43:09.080
giving you the words of affirmation that you needed.

614
00:43:09.080 --> 00:43:16.400
And as an adult, we can justify and understand why these things didn't happen, but as a three

615
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:25.680
year old, you've perceived it in a way that's brought you harm and misunderstanding.

616
00:43:25.680 --> 00:43:30.400
Yeah.

617
00:43:30.560 --> 00:43:39.360
And we're just going to do the next part of this, which is, and I renounce the lie.

618
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:40.360
I renounce the lie.

619
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:42.360
I renounce the lie.

620
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:44.360
That you, Father God.

621
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:46.360
That you, Father God.

622
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:49.360
Would treat me in any of those ways.

623
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.360
Would treat me in any of those ways.

624
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:56.360
Yeah.

625
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.360
I renounce the lie that you, Father God.

626
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:02.360
I renounce the lie that you, Father God.

627
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:04.360
Wouldn't know how to love me.

628
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:06.360
Wouldn't know how to love me.

629
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:08.360
Wouldn't know how to show up for me.

630
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:11.360
Wouldn't know how to show up for me.

631
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:16.360
Wouldn't know how to love me in a way I needed.

632
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:21.360
Wouldn't know how to love me in the way that I needed.

633
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:23.360
Jesus.

634
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:25.360
Yeah.

635
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:27.360
And Father God.

636
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:29.360
What is the truth?

637
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:33.360
What is the truth?

638
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:36.360
What is the truth about you, Father God?

639
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:56.360
What is the truth about you, Father God?

640
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:57.360
What is the truth about you, Father God?

641
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.380
the words or he's showing you imagery right now, like he did

642
00:45:04.380 --> 00:45:08.560
with Matt in the office room, like he did with me and the

643
00:45:08.560 --> 00:45:20.080
lion. Allow him to show you that truth. It's super subtle

644
00:45:20.080 --> 00:45:33.080
sometimes, almost miscible. And as for the God, the God, the

645
00:45:33.080 --> 00:45:36.640
God, what is the name you're calling me by in the season?

646
00:45:37.120 --> 00:45:39.760
What is the name you're calling me by in the season?

647
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:56.440
Father God has many, many names. And I believe that, you know,

648
00:45:56.440 --> 00:46:02.240
he prays without ceasing. And he calls us his beloved. He calls

649
00:46:02.640 --> 00:46:11.280
his child, his chosen one, his delight. Just as I call my

650
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:16.080
children many different names. And the name he's calling you by

651
00:46:16.080 --> 00:46:19.240
in the season sometimes has great meaning that brings a

652
00:46:19.240 --> 00:46:23.600
breakthrough and a safety and a connection with him that you

653
00:46:23.600 --> 00:46:31.240
need right now in the season. Yeah. Father God, would you come

654
00:46:31.240 --> 00:46:37.280
close? Would you come close? Father God, would you come

655
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:45.920
closer still? If you're not feeling safe with that, say

656
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.640
Father God, is there somebody I need to forgive? That's holding

657
00:46:49.640 --> 00:47:08.000
me back from you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then ask, Father God, do

658
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:09.640
you have a gift for me today?

659
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:12.320
Father God, do you have a gift for me?

660
00:47:19.640 --> 00:47:24.760
How do you want to love me today, Father God?

661
00:47:26.560 --> 00:47:28.480
You want to love me today, Father God?

662
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:41.720
I encourage you to write down all the good things that you're

663
00:47:41.720 --> 00:47:48.640
hearing, sensing, feeling, knowing, whether they be

664
00:47:48.640 --> 00:47:55.920
imagination journeys, or Bible verses, or simple little things.

665
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.240
Because it's like a prophetic word that's straight from God's

666
00:48:01.240 --> 00:48:06.680
heart to you to remind yourself within the future. When you need

667
00:48:06.680 --> 00:48:11.120
it the most. Yeah. So that takes a little bit longer than what we

668
00:48:11.120 --> 00:48:14.480
went through just now, because there's no interaction between

669
00:48:14.520 --> 00:48:22.120
me and you. But it's a good base to learn how to talk with God.

670
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:30.200
Yeah, come on. Yeah. That's so, so good. Yeah. It's really

671
00:48:30.200 --> 00:48:37.920
powerful, isn't it? Yeah. You can feel his presence. My whole

672
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:43.040
body is aware of God right now. Just aligning yourself to put

673
00:48:43.040 --> 00:48:47.440
your eyes on him. Yeah. And inviting him into your space.

674
00:48:47.600 --> 00:48:48.120
Yeah.

675
00:48:49.160 --> 00:48:49.760
Consciously.

676
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:56.080
Yeah, I had a during that I had a picture of, you know, I'm kind

677
00:48:56.080 --> 00:49:01.320
of on the ground on some sort of, you know, plateau, and I'm

678
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:06.320
looking up at, you know, kind of like Father God and Jesus and

679
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:10.920
the angels are all up there, you know. And, and I just had a

680
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:14.240
picture of every ever all the attention shifting and turning

681
00:49:14.240 --> 00:49:19.840
towards me. Wow. And then Jesus and Father God just being like,

682
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:25.160
what are you doing down there? So down and grab me and pick me

683
00:49:25.160 --> 00:49:28.920
up. And just carried me up into the heavens with them. You know,

684
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:35.920
like, Wow, don't be down there. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Circle. Yeah.

685
00:49:36.640 --> 00:49:38.720
This is powerful. You know, you give you give them an

686
00:49:38.720 --> 00:49:42.840
opportunity to speak. Yeah. And it's just it's powerful to

687
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:46.360
realize that he actually wants to speak more than we want him

688
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:51.240
to speak. Exactly. He desires that connection with us so much

689
00:49:51.240 --> 00:49:56.120
more than we can even think or imagine. Right? Because that's

690
00:49:56.520 --> 00:49:59.120
what he created us for. So it's just giving him those

691
00:49:59.120 --> 00:49:59.960
opportunities.

692
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.920
being amazed when he actually shows up, we shouldn't be surprised by it.

693
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:18.160
Oh guys, well Rene, is there anything else before we wrap up that you want to share?

694
00:50:18.160 --> 00:50:32.240
Dale from Invercargill leads Sozo New Zealand and she's an absolute treasure in this land,

695
00:50:32.240 --> 00:50:40.400
honestly, she is a golden treasure, she is a mother of mothers, she's a mother of,

696
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:48.640
I'm going to cry, so if you really are not sure how to access this particular tool and want to,

697
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:55.680
definitely go after it and Dale's in charge of the nation here with the Sozo

698
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Ministry and I trust her a thousand percent, I think she's wonderful.

699
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:06.720
It's so good to know, I didn't know that, I'm going to be reaching out to Dale.

700
00:51:07.520 --> 00:51:15.520
She's wonderful, it's a special gift to be able to just find out what's hindering you

701
00:51:15.520 --> 00:51:20.560
from Holy Spirit or Father God or Jesus and realising that your relationships with your

702
00:51:20.560 --> 00:51:27.920
siblings, your mum or your dad can easily be turned around and it brings health between

703
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:37.040
your peers and when you go after it, it's simple and it's beautiful.

704
00:51:37.040 --> 00:51:42.080
Yeah, come on, that's so powerful, thank you so much Rene and Matt. Matt,

705
00:51:42.080 --> 00:51:44.000
is there anything else you want to share before we wrap up?

706
00:51:45.120 --> 00:51:55.200
I just love you all and yeah, I think that ultimately at the end of the day,

707
00:51:55.200 --> 00:52:04.800
I think everything, I love Sozo, I love all the tools and I think that it's just all so cool

708
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:12.240
and underlying all of that is just a massive invitation from God to spend time with them.

709
00:52:14.240 --> 00:52:17.600
And sometimes it can be hard to know how to spend time with God

710
00:52:19.040 --> 00:52:23.040
and so if you're kind of in that position and you're like, I kind of want to

711
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:29.120
continue or begin a conversation with God and spend time with them, but how do I do that?

712
00:52:30.080 --> 00:52:32.880
Honestly, the hardest thing about doing that is doing that.

713
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:34.960
Yeah.

714
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:41.360
And what I mean by that is it's just taking some time in your day and just setting that time aside

715
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:46.400
to say, I'm going to actually, I don't know how to do it, but I'm going to just have some time

716
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:49.120
and trust that you're going to help me do it, Lord.

717
00:52:49.680 --> 00:52:53.760
And that might be going for a walk or it might just simply be sitting on the couch and waiting

718
00:52:54.720 --> 00:53:02.240
and sort of going through the seemingly sometimes kind of awkward stage of like,

719
00:53:02.240 --> 00:53:04.000
I don't really know what I'm doing, but I'm doing it.

720
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:06.480
Yeah.

721
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:10.880
And just trust that in that space, if you create that space and make that space for God,

722
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:13.600
He will actually utilize that time.

723
00:53:14.160 --> 00:53:16.960
And some of you won't know until hindsight,

724
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:22.400
until maybe weeks and years or days or hours later.

725
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:23.200
Yeah.

726
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.400
Where you'll realize, oh, wow, God actually did,

727
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:29.520
like something actually did transpire in my heart in that time.

728
00:53:29.520 --> 00:53:30.160
Yeah.

729
00:53:30.160 --> 00:53:34.000
Or it might be in the moment, but just know that God will utilize that time.

730
00:53:35.040 --> 00:53:41.520
And there is a big fat invitation from God to hang out.

731
00:53:41.520 --> 00:53:43.040
Yeah. Come on.

732
00:53:43.600 --> 00:53:44.320
That's so good.

733
00:53:45.200 --> 00:53:49.120
I was going to share sometimes people just need to read the Psalms.

734
00:53:49.120 --> 00:53:53.600
And when they feel like there's a truth in there that I don't actually believe,

735
00:53:53.600 --> 00:53:55.040
invite God into that.

736
00:53:55.040 --> 00:53:59.360
Like with Psalms 23, the Lord is my best friend.

737
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:00.400
This is the passion version.

738
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.800
The Lord is my best friend and my shepherd.

739
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:04.320
I always have more than enough.

740
00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:08.240
And if that's as far as you get with being triggered, then that's okay.

741
00:54:08.240 --> 00:54:11.760
Going, oh, that doesn't feel fully true to me, God.

742
00:54:12.720 --> 00:54:15.280
That I would have more than enough.

743
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:16.080
Yeah.

744
00:54:17.680 --> 00:54:23.120
Father God, I invite you right now just to help me find out what's the lie I'm believing.

745
00:54:23.120 --> 00:54:27.680
And is there a corresponding person to that lie that I need to forgive?

746
00:54:27.680 --> 00:54:28.000
Yeah.

747
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:30.640
When did this lie first enter into my life?

748
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:36.240
And who's in that moment that I need to forgive and ask, what's the truth there, God?

749
00:54:36.240 --> 00:54:38.160
What do you want to say to me about that?

750
00:54:38.160 --> 00:54:38.320
Yeah.

751
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:40.960
And fight truth to help you believe the word.

752
00:54:42.560 --> 00:54:44.400
Isn't that awesome?

753
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:47.920
Believe has reigned a word for you.

754
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:48.160
Yeah.

755
00:54:48.160 --> 00:54:48.720
Yeah.

756
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:52.400
Ah, guys, so powerful.

757
00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:54.720
It really is revolutionary.

758
00:54:54.720 --> 00:54:55.440
It's life changing.

759
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:58.720
It has been, you know, for me, and it continues to be for me.

760
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:03.880
you know, kind of just to circle back around, in context of

761
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:09.080
parenting, you know, this is, this is so foundational, in our

762
00:55:09.080 --> 00:55:15.000
parenting journey. Because if we have a false view of Father

763
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.640
God, it will ultimately even if it's in a subconscious level, it

764
00:55:19.640 --> 00:55:24.960
will ultimately inform how we're representing him. Yes, to our

765
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:28.440
kids. Yeah, absolutely. And that's the cycle. That's the

766
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:31.080
cycle of disconnection is because we're creating that

767
00:55:31.080 --> 00:55:37.000
model gets passed down. And so what we're doing here today, is

768
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:43.080
actually the process of making it so that they don't have to be

769
00:55:43.080 --> 00:55:46.960
going back in their future and dealing with some of this stuff.

770
00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:49.800
It's a lot easier to start right, then have to go back and

771
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:54.320
fix it, right. But um, but even if that's the case, awesome,

772
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:58.040
because God can do that. So that's all good. But um, but if

773
00:55:58.040 --> 00:56:02.160
we're parenting from a place of connection, and, you know,

774
00:56:02.200 --> 00:56:07.600
alignment with the truth of who Father God is, then that's the

775
00:56:07.600 --> 00:56:10.640
foundation. That's the foundation of family and the

776
00:56:10.640 --> 00:56:14.080
foundation of parenting. It's funny, if I've spent so much

777
00:56:14.120 --> 00:56:19.520
time, diving into kingdom parenting, resources and

778
00:56:19.520 --> 00:56:22.360
courses, books, and not a single one of them has talked about

779
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:26.320
this. Wow. Wow. That's amazing. It is interesting to me. I'm

780
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:33.560
like, yeah, look, you get the foundation sorted. Yeah, right.

781
00:56:33.600 --> 00:56:37.880
So, um, so guys, thank you so much for for being with us. And

782
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:42.880
for leading us. I fully believe that this is the beginning and

783
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:50.040
the launchpad of a movement for families and connection. And we

784
00:56:50.040 --> 00:56:52.600
actually get to be a part of something really significant,

785
00:56:52.600 --> 00:56:56.560
really special right now. So I'm going to figure out I don't

786
00:56:56.560 --> 00:57:00.720
know if I can post that PDF in the comments just as a PDF form

787
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:05.360
on the page. But we'll find a way to either link it, or

788
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.640
somehow may not show up right away. But we'll make sure that

789
00:57:07.640 --> 00:57:10.720
that the tool, the father letter, letter, letter tool that

790
00:57:10.720 --> 00:57:13.120
you that you made up first, Renee, I will figure out a way

791
00:57:13.120 --> 00:57:14.960
to either put that in the comments or link it in the

792
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:19.880
comments. And then you can kind of go off and, and walk yourself

793
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:23.120
through this over and over and over and over. Anytime there's a

794
00:57:23.120 --> 00:57:25.400
trigger. And we're actually tomorrow, we're going to be

795
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:27.640
talking more about triggers and how to deal with those. Right.

796
00:57:27.640 --> 00:57:30.000
So this is really relevant. Yeah. So this is really

797
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:31.800
relevant for tomorrow's talk. So we're going to be talking

798
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:36.480
tomorrow more about like self care. Right? So, you know, let's

799
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:40.680
get connected and aligned with the truth of who God is. And

800
00:57:40.680 --> 00:57:43.240
then let's get aligned with actually dealing with ourselves

801
00:57:43.240 --> 00:57:46.000
and self care. And then once we've dealt with that, then we

802
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:50.400
can launch from there. Right. So. So join us tomorrow morning,

803
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:52.840
we're gonna be talking about self care and triggers, and

804
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:55.640
boundaries and some really, you know, some really foundational

805
00:57:55.640 --> 00:57:59.600
stuff as well. But guys, thank you so much for for what you're

806
00:57:59.600 --> 00:58:03.320
doing, and for the anointing and the ministry in your lives. And

807
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:06.360
for joining us this morning, I'm confident this is going to be

808
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:10.720
revolutionary and life changing for so many. Alright, so

809
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:13.680
awesome, man. Thanks for having us. Yeah, absolutely. Such an

810
00:58:13.680 --> 00:58:16.560
honor and a privilege to be journeying with you guys. And

811
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:20.560
but we'll, we'll see where we go from here. But guys, bless you,

812
00:58:20.600 --> 00:58:24.200
everyone who's watching. Be blessed. And let's run forward

813
00:58:24.200 --> 00:58:28.640
together after wholeness and connection and family. So you

814
00:58:28.640 --> 00:58:30.880
guys are awesome. That's us for this morning. We'll see you

815
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:35.120
tomorrow morning. Same time 7am. Yeah, it's gonna just keep

816
00:58:35.120 --> 00:58:38.360
getting better, guys. All right. Come on, man. All right. Awesome.

817
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:41.160
Love you. Just love you guys. Thanks again. Cheers. Bye.

818
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