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All right, so last week we talked about three strategies

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to grow and scale a business.

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We talked about 10% growth, improving your process,

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100% growth, creating a new product,

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and 10x growth, which is rethinking your business,

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pivoting.

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So today we're talking about shaping up your business,

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and we're gonna be using three expert strategies

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for pruning.

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So just like gardening, we wanna intentionally focus

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on where the life of the company exists

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so that we can redirect our energy to all the right places.

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And just before we dive in,

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I do have a pro tip for you all today.

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I love this one.

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It's to continually challenge your assumptions.

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And it's important for us to keep in mind

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the core reason we exist as a business.

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So it's always a good practice to question your constraints

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because all constraints can be wrong to some degree.

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And remember that great ideas have no rank.

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So you don't have to spend time optimizing something

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that shouldn't exist in the first place.

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And there's always a healthy destructiveness

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to challenging old assumptions,

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and we all have full permission to exercise it.

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All right, and as a friendly reminder,

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don't forget to add your questions, your comments,

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and reactions to the chat

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as Dion's going through the material.

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And it looks like we're all ready to dive in.

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So Dion, I'll go ahead and hand it over to you.

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Thank you, Jalen.

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I really appreciate it.

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Hey, how are you all doing?

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I hope you're having a wonderful day.

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This topic is one of the more challenging topics,

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although the concept is really simple.

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So I have, and I've always been amazed

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at how difficult it is to get leaders and CEOs to simplify.

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We'll talk about why that is in a second.

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If you're one of those leaders who struggles

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to get rid of stuff,

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if you're a bit of a hoarder personally

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and maybe a bit of a hoarder in your leadership,

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hey, that's okay.

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We certainly get that.

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But here's a couple of things.

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We all know that clarity drives simplicity.

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Can you finish the sentence?

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And simplicity drives speed.

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Remember that?

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So simplicity, clarity drives simplicity,

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simplicity drives speed.

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But we've never talked about how do you get

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that simplicity in your business?

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And it is one of the hardest things for leaders

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to do to simplify,

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especially as we get attached to our products,

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we get attached to our markets,

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we get attached to what we're doing.

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And one of the most difficult things

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is a thing called creative destruction,

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where you deliberately blow up one of your own products

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before the market does.

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And so we're gonna talk about

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how do you know when to do that?

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How do you look at your business?

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And if you've got a range of price,

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last week, we gave you a tool for mapping your customers

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and your products in the four square analysis,

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and then what to do to get rid of all the fours

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and how to move everything as close to one as you can.

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If not one, then certainly a two or a three.

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And we talked a good deal.

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Now, today, we're gonna talk about that process

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in a little more depth

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and a little more practical aspects of that.

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So here's what it is.

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Most leaders are saying, man, if we had the right plan,

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let's do a three-day offsite,

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let's come up with the right plan.

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And really, it's about the right team implementing a plan.

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It's not about the right plan.

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And the reason why some leaders are incredibly successful

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at what they do is they come up with a simple plan

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that everybody can follow.

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Sometimes plans are too complicated

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or they change too often.

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Now we've got like theme of the month.

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I worked with one CEO.

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He literally came up with a new strategy every month.

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It was like strategy of the month.

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guess what happened when he said,

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hey, new strategy, everyone just yawned and like,

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well, I think I'm a bit busy.

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Can I go to the bathroom now?

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It was like bored, right?

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Because you couldn't follow that.

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What's important?

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So it was like, well, we're doing this,

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then we're doing that, then we're doing this.

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when you're still trying to find your space,

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you're trying to find your niche,

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you will pivot a lot, that's normal.

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At some point you have to lock and load.

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and then things get a life.

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It's like, I don't know any of you have moved recently

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into a new home or whatever, or into a new office.

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And you move and then you have those pile of boxes

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that you never quite get around to.

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And after about two months, they get a life.

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You don't even see them anymore.

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And sometimes that happens to our product.

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Sometimes components in the business get their own life.

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But the leader's job is to simplify.

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In fact, when you're in the middle of complexity,

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the worst thing you can do as a leader.

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is have hope. Because what hope does is keeps the complexity

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going, oh, we'll just try it. Well, one more, you know, just

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another month. And at some point, the best thing you can

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do is simplify. So let's talk about that. We've talked a lot

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about your brain cannot multitask, you know, it's, you

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create cognitive stress and fatigue, when you try to

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multitask, multitasking makes you dumb and all that stuff. But

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in the same way, that can be same for a business to that kind

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of multitasking. There's a great story of when Steve Jobs came

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back to Apple, we may have used the analogy before, I think. And

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you know, he walked in and they had like, I don't know, 18 or

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27 different products in computers. And he, you know, he

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shouted down the way, this is insane. This is crazy. And he

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got a whiteboard nearby, cleaned it off, and drew four squares,

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just like we do on the four square analysis. And at the top,

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he wrote consumer, professional, so each of the columns, consumer,

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professional, for the two rows, he wrote, desktop, laptop, those

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are the four products we're going to create. You know,

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consumer is going to get a desktop and a laptop and

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professionals are going to get a desktop and a laptop. That's it.

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Those are the four computers we're going to make. Now, what

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do you imagine the pushback was? Oh, my goodness, off the charts

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pushback, right? People having meltdowns about, oh, you know,

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we've got this, and we've got the special thing on this

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educational thing, and blah, blah, blah. And they all had

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pretty good reasons as to why we had to keep the complexity. So

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as a leader, when you try to simplify its work, it takes

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actual leadership to take people through the simplification

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process, because we're getting rid of something we fell in love

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with along the way. So the real important thing is once he

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simplified those, he inhibited everything else. It's like deep

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work, when you focus on something, you inhibit

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distractions, you inhibit all the other things that are going

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to take your attention. Same for a business. So one of the best

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ways to think of this is, think of pruning. Now, those who of

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you, you know, who have ever been to, are there any gardeners

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among us who are actual gardeners? Okay, good. Okay, so

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Bev, you probably, I don't know if you have any rosebushes. But

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you know, many of you who have ever pruned a rosebush knows, a

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rose produces way more buds than it can actually sustain. And

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part of what you have to do is yet, you know, it's what the

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horticulture is telling me. So, you know, you have to prune that

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thing down. And so, you know, last week, I alluded to a story.

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So I went and got the full story again, of the guy who bought a

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$25 million company that had five main areas of business,

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and he grew it from 25 to $500 million. And when they

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interviewed him, I mean, that didn't just add a zero, right? I

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mean, he added a zero and double that. So an incredible growth,

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and he did it in like two or three years. So people were so

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impressed that they interviewed him. And when they interviewed

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him, they asked him the question. And he said, he said,

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I realized that the life of the company was in 20% of the

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business. The life of the company is in 20% of the

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business. So my job was how do we get rid of the 80%? We had

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five divisions. And so so the interviewer says, Oh, so you

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just got rid of the unprofitable ones? He says, No, no, no, no,

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they were all profitable. He says, Well, why did you get rid

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of them? Is it because we needed all the nutrients, all the

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resources, when you prune a bush, all the nutrients go to

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the very best buds. So we're going to go through the three

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types of pruning that we would do. And that's exactly what he

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did. And he said, Look, I want us to sell giveaway, whatever

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these four divisions, they were profitable. And it had huge

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pushback, people were obviously worried about their jobs, people

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were worried about, you know, the customers impact on the

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market, you know, positioning, marketing, branding, you get it

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has a lot of implications. This is hard work. It takes real,

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courageous leadership to simplify. It's one of the

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hardest things you may ever do in your business is to focus and

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simplify down to that one thing. So which buds are the best, and

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we got to prune the rest, find the best prune the rest. It took

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real courage. Anyway, he pruned it down to 20% of the

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business, and they grew like wildfire. Because he has an

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interesting thing, he didn't actually fire anyone. He

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literally took all those resources from all five

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divisions and stuck them in the one division, it exploded with

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growth. And so and also the market got very clear about what

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they did. They didn't do five things. Now they did one thing.

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And this was one of the most powerful

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full ways. And I often see this, I see businesses growing, and

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then they hit a cap. You know, I don't know how many of you got

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25 or 50 employees. But when you start hitting that cap, a lot of

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the simplification becomes critical. But sometimes, I've

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seen business with five employees hit this because they

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just everywhere, they're all over the map. So that the three

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areas we want to look at is number one is let's, let's we

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have to prune the roses, because we know we're going to generate

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more buds, and then we can actually sustain, we are going

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to generate more ideas, more products, more meetings, more

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employees, more everything, just in the process of growth. And

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with growth comes complexity. So as part of the simplification

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process to take the business to the next level, takes courageous

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leadership. So, you know, we have to look at and say, the

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three types of pruning is number one, is what is sick, and

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not going to get well, what is sick and not going to get well,

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think about your own business, even if you're a one person

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business, what is sick and not going to get well, there's a

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point, you know, there's a point with every leader, I think that

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there's a product or a strategy or even a person that you get

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attached to. And they're not going to change, and it's sick,

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and it's not going to get well, you've tried, you put the

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person, especially, it's really hard when it's a person, we've

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talked quite a bit about that. But sometimes it's just a

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product, hey, man, we started the business with this product.

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So this pruning process is, takes tremendous courage. And

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here's the thing, because as leaders, we get attached to

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things, man, that was the product that launched us, that's

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the product that got us going. And so we got to keep it going.

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No, you don't. Because part of it, sometimes the markets move

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on, sometimes it's season has just passed. Sometimes that

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person season has just passed in your own company. So, you know,

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leaders get very, very vested in products get very vested in

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markets, you know, you spoke at that conference, and I can't

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just now get out of that whole business. Yeah, yes, you can.

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And, you know, you have to at some point, we got we get to a

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point, Warren Buffett has a great name for this. He calls it

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the institutional imperative, the institutional barrier, what

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he means by this is that we get put so much money, and so much

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time into something, it has to go because we put so much money,

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and so much time in it. Do you see the circular logic? No, no,

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no, no. Why are you doing this, man, we have got so much time,

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and so much money. So what are you gonna do about it, we're

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going to put more time, more money in it. I'm glad I'm glad

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you spot the mistake, right. But it's funny to laugh at when

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we're sitting in a training time like this, it's not so easy to

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do when you're staring at that thing. And you go, Oh, my, you

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know, there's a history here. We have strategic relationships in

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that market. This is a big deal. Yes. And so obviously, we don't

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do this lightly. But there comes a time, you have to stop sending

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good money after bad money. This time, you have to stop

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spending more time on the thing that's consuming your time. Now,

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the four square exercise of last week was designed to highlight

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that for you. And maybe you did that as a team. Or if you know,

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if you're a solopreneur, you did this for yourself. And you

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looked at where your customers, your products were. But now we

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have to talk about now that you've seen this, how do you do

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the actual pruning? So this was the first question, what is sick

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and not going to get well, this takes a brutal honesty, as a

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leader and as a team to lead your team there to give them

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permission to say that, because it takes a lot of courage to

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raise your hand in a meeting, if you're not the leader and say, I

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think product B is sick and not going to get well. And it turns

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out that product B is the CEO's favorite toy. So you got to be

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really careful. So we have to as leaders give permission for

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this. And I'm going to share some of our own things. The next

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thing is what's dead, it just needs to go. Seriously, it's

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time to call it somebody called the call the match already, you

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know, if it's knocked out and lying in the arena out cold,

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they stop pretending it's still fighting. But we do this in

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business, right? So it's time to just a brutal reality check.

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Look, yesterday is gone. Yes, it was a great product in its day,

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its season has passed. It's dead. Here's number three,

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number three is the hardest of them all. What's good, but not

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great. What's good, but not great. Because the good as we

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know, is the enemy of their bed of the best. But how do we trim

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the products, the service?

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is what we offer down into that fine space. Now for some of you, you don't have to necessarily

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kill. If you've got, let's say you have two business lines going, you may be able to sell

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one off to a competitor and generate some capital, maybe even keep some of the key people you want.

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organization. And there may be a way in which some employees want to buy a piece of that business.

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I've done that before. I've sold pieces of business to employees. So there's a lot of

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very creative things you can do. And if you're interested in all that more complicated stuff,

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management buyouts and all those things and earnouts and all those good things,

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there are ways to prune, but the pruning has to happen nonetheless. So we've gone through the

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three, what's sick, not going to get well, what's dead and needs to go and what's good but not great.

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So we put together an exercise around those things, but we actually made it five questions

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we found a little more useful, which is going to be in the worksheet for you to go through here

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in a second. And so at Brilliant, we went through this exercise and we asked this question, we've

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done it several times. Where is the life of our company? If the life of the company is in 20%

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of what you do, we know from Pareto principle, that's probably true. Where is that life? And it's

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interesting, you know, a lot of people get into the technicalities, what does life mean?

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What life means is that it's profitable and it's energizing. That's what life means. It's energizing

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to you, it's energizing to your team, to your customers. So at Brilliant, we realized that the

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life of the company was in coaching. Now, you know, we have many other products and we have,

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you know, we have an online bookstore with over 100 products on it. We have, you know, a lot of

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other elements we do, conferences and whatever else. And we realized that coaching was the life

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of what we did. And then we realized that community, coaching a community, because they're so tied,

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closely tied, is really the life of what we do. So we started then and we launched a new product,

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which we call Premium. And some of you may know it or used it. And in that process, when we

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launched the Premium product, it was designed after this analysis. We did this analysis and

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we launched a new program and we simplified and put the resources into that. The next question,

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is there something we're attached to that needs to go? So we rephrase the question to this,

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is there something attached that we've become attached to? Oh, we've always had whatever.

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And what we were doing is running multiple live events a month, and we kind of became hooked on

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them. You know, at one state, I think we've done 38 challenges, 38 three-day challenges as a company.

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I mean, that's insane amount of challenges. But then we realized that, you know, these multiple

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events weren't, there wasn't life and we just became attached to them. And so we also realized

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we became attached to the idea that Graham was the primary producer of content. And so we realized,

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man, we have got to broaden out, we've got to bring in new voices, we've got to train a team.

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think about that, because we realized we became attached to the idea of what, you know, we all

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love Graham, we love what he teaches. And, you know, he's traveled in wherever many countries

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around the world, 140 countries, whatever the number is. And he's been around and he's done

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all this stuff. And he's been involved in all these things and written all these books.

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And we all love the content, but we realized we became attached to it in a way that wasn't helpful

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and healthy. And you need to prune this idea. And so that meant expanding. So notice that the

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pruning here was pruning an idea or a mindset than more than was pruning a product. Number three was,

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is there something dead that is taking up space? So I've got to just be vulnerable for a minute,

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I know we're being recorded, but that's what it is. Right. So one of the things when we first,

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when I first came to Britain, there were two companies, there was a publishing house, and

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there was a brand perspectives. And you know, what was dead and taking up space,

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the publishing house, doing the publishing, the shipping, the fulfillment, the orders,

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pack having a warehouse and packaging stuff and printing stuff and shipping them to our warehouse.

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our outsourced warehouse, and we found an external publisher, and we got out of the publishing

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business. So brilliant, brilliant book house was the publisher. And we still use that brand for

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publishing. But it was just something that was dead and needed to go, it's time was over. And

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we needed to get out of the publishing business. And we needed to be into a different business.

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This was not an easy conversation. Why? Because that's where the business

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started. So there we were deeply emotionally attached to this. Oh,

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but you know, we published 23 books with Graham, and we got all

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this stuff. And we got all this and we've got this and this and

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this. And I said, Look, we can find a way. But we're not in the

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publishing business anymore. We have to get out of that

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business. So we got somebody else to publish for us somebody

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else to do shipping and fulfillment. And it just changed

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our lives. We literally print books that go to the shipping

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house, somebody gets us Shopify orders it, the printing house

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gets the order, ships it and we get notified within a few

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minutes. It's all electronically wired together. And we don't

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touch or see the book. And my rule was no touching books.

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We're out of the touching books business, stop touching books.

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some of the books, our thinking and training had moved on, and

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some of them still had older thought processes that have

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been a little outdated. So we took them off the bookstore,

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another emotional process. We noticed that our email list,

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our engagement was too low, and our list wasn't growing. So

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there was something that was just dead taking up space. So

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what we do is we cleansed our list. So it didn't look so

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happy afterwards, because we had a much smaller list. But we

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knew that list were engaged with us. This is before the new

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compliance rules came out in California, we have to have the

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double opt in and you can't just send somebody an email just

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because they once responded to you, you're not allowed to do

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that. Under Californian law, lots of rules. But we became

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compliant, we cleaned it up. But that was just dead and taking

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up space. There was just those 10s of 1000s of emails that

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were just sitting in it. And it was sounded cool to so many

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emails we had, but it wasn't actually true. Number four, are

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there areas or things where we need to stop being a resource?

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you're saving it all the time. If it wasn't for you jumping in

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and saving that thing, it would die. It wasn't for you jumping

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and saving that person every time they touch something, they

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would fail. So are we are the areas in people products where

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we're jumping in, and we have to be the source, otherwise it

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dies. If you are still the primary source of something,

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either it's time to turn that out, or it's time to rethink

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how that product because it cannot, it's not sustainable

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with you as the primary source. And I'm talking about you being

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the main leader. So on the CEO calls, that's one of the

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questions I like to ask, you know, CEOs, particularly areas

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where you're still the primary source is a problem. Okay,

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number five, what is good, not best? This is the hardest

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question of all. Because these are good things in your

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company, they're making money even, you know that but they're

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taking nutrients, resources from the organization, they're good,

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but they're not your best thing. So if we could take them

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out, what would it make room for that's a little more, more

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positive way of thinking about it, I think, if we took this

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item out, if we took this product out, if we offer if we

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didn't offer the service, and you know, most of this

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complexity comes because we want to please the customer, we get

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attached, you know, and the customers will, can you do this?

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Oh, yeah, we can do this. The quickest way to see that I saw

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was in the software business. In the software business, a

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customer calls, yeah, you know, I know it's not part of the

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scope, but do you think you guys can do this? And so the

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programmers are thinking, man, honestly, I can do it in 10

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minutes. Sure, we'll do that. And then it's Can you do this?

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Can you do this? Now the next what the customer what the yes,

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what the engineer is not thinking about? I don't know.

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Any of you been in the software business? Yeah. Anybody? Yeah.

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Okay. So then you know, writing code, debugging it, getting it

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stable and shipping it is 20% of the cost of that product. The

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other 80% comes in servicing it and supporting it. It's

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massively expensive. So yeah, I can just quickly write that

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special piece of code for customer A into the source code.

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Customers B and C don't need it. Then customer C comes and

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asks for another piece, but I got to give it to C. So when

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they hit that button, it goes to C, but not A and B. When you

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start all that complexity, which came from a place of I

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want to be great to my customers, what you're doing is

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you're killing your business. So it's either saying no to the

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customer or thinking, can I thin slice this in a way that

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gets the customer what they actually need? This exercise

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that we want to give you right now, which we'll

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here in the chat, is designed to really get you to think deeply about your business. Because if

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you're willing to go down this road and you're willing to have the courage to answer these

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questions, you could literally, like I told the story how somebody goes from a $25 million

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business to a $500 million business comes from this type of thinking. It's not because you're

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brutal. It's not because, you know, there was a guy who became very well known in the space I was

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in. And he was known as Chainsaw Al. His name was Al, somebody or another, I've forgotten. But he

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was known as Chainsaw Al because he just came and just cut stuff in businesses, cut them up,

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sold them off for parts, and he got known as Chainsaw Al. I'm not talking about being Chainsaw Al.

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I'm talking about thinking deeply about what's the best way to grow and expand your business.

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You only have that many resources, you only have that much capital, that many people, and you're

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putting a lot of time into training, educating, and focusing them. So when you did your four

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square analysis, maybe one of the things you can look at is, you know, what is just

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sick and not going to get well? What's dead and somebody just has to call it already and put the

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poor thing in the grave? Just stop it already. And the hard one, what's good but not best?

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Okay, questions? Any questions, comments? Anybody been through this process?

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Ben, you look like you're about to say something there.

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I mean, we've done SWOT analysis in the past, you know, that's been fruitful and really led to

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a lot of growth in our company. But I'm anxious and interested to see

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kind of what's popped up in our team's minds, so.

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Yeah, yeah. You know, what's great about the style of leadership we've developed,

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or part of the culture of creating a team of leaders over these, what, 31 weeks,

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as we've done this, is we've given permission for that feedback to now happen,

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without there being consequences. And I think this is one of the healthiest,

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you cannot, you can see why this is well down the bottom end of the course,

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because you have to have a culture to sustain this. You cannot, I've tried to go in in the

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wrong culture, everyone just stares at your nose. Everyone's thinking, I'm not raising my hand.

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I'm not saying that. I'm not telling the CEO that the division his son is running is terrible.

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I'm not telling the CEO that the product his wife created, you know,

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sucks. I'm not that guy. So it does take courage. But a culture which is really about

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all of us pulling together can do that. All right, let's go through the question. You'll

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see the questions are laid out. They are, as you would expect, five exercises, each one going

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through, trying to find each of the elements we just discussed. So we want to give you an

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opportunity, jump into your breakout sessions, discuss the questions, and let's circle back

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five minutes to the top of the hour. All right. Thanks, Dion. Well, we will go ahead and separate

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out into our breakout rooms now. You'll have an opportunity to discuss the material with your team

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and the worksheet has been dropped into the chat. If you have any issues accessing it, let me know.

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Solo leaders, you can go ahead and join the room called general, and that's where you can interact

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together or engage on your own as well. And I will go ahead and open up those rooms and have fun

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together. Let me know if you need any assistance getting into those rooms. All right. So we are

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going to go ahead and open up time for questions. So if you have a question or have any thoughts

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that came out of your discussion that you want to share with the team or with Dion, feel free to do

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so. You can raise your hand. You can post in the chat. Dion, I know you mentioned if anyone had

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something to share, they could do that. So I could kick us off with just a little thought.

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I'll see if anyone else wants to go. Any hands? Okay. Well, while you're thinking, getting your

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chats going, Dion, something that Cindy and I talked about was in the first question, just kind

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of understanding the difference of where's the life in our team, kind of like the shiny eyes versus

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where's the life in terms of measurable success and in what the company's putting out. So maybe

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could you talk a little bit about the difference between the two, what's going well with the team

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and the shiny eyes versus what the customers or the consumers are identifying with?

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Yeah, I've noticed that those, so you're talking about what's the difference between,

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hey, we find this life-giving, but it's

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isn't that profitable versus this is really profitable. We don't find that life giving.

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So it's like when I do my AC thing, I've got a low profit and my CC thing is high profit.

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What I've found over time is that those things do merge because where you're, you know, if your,

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if your core passion isn't financially viable, then it, you know, it might be that that has to

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be a separate thing. So what I found is that you have to, it's not just about optimizing profits,

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although that's part of it, but it's what are the core competencies of the, of the team itself?

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You know, what is it? You remember how we work backwards? We say, what does our customer need?

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And then let's work backwards, not what do we have and what can we sell them? We don't work it

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forward. We, we start with a customer in mind, we work backwards and that often in those discussions

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with the customers, the four square stuff and the stuff we did together, these go together.

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And usually a very clear pattern emerges. So I don't think it's just an isolated.

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It's why we give different tools because they highlight different things.

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So I know that wasn't a direct answer, but generally at some point, you've got to get your

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passions and profits to align at some point, right? It's got to align. Otherwise it's going to be

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short-lived. Either you'll run out of energy because it's not your passion or it will run out

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of money one way or another, you'll run out of one of them. So it's what a lot of businesses do that.

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Any other questions? So as you go through this exercise, it's also useful, you know, with a team

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to take a second and match it to last week's exercise. Last week we identified all those

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quadrant four things. And a lot of times the quadrant four things are the things that are

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dead or sucking up energy or taking up resources that need to go. All right. Yep. Any other

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questions? Pretty easy today. Going once. Okay. Back to you, Jaylen.

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All right. Well, if there are no other questions, we'll go ahead and wrap up for today. The time

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always goes so quickly. And don't forget when you hop off of this call, you will have the

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end of call survey. If you could fill that out, let us know what was fascinating with you,

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what's going to be helpful for your business. And you can also let us know if you have any

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additional questions there. So with that, we will give you all the last two minutes of the hour,

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and we'll see you next time. Bye, everyone.
