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All right. Hey, everyone. Welcome to love seats. Exciting,

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exciting times. Lots of fun things going to happen tonight.

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I want to let you guys know that, um,

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well, hold on one second. Let me do one thing really quick.

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All right. Hey everyone.

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I was just making sure that all of our phase two beauties are getting over here

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for love seats tonight and not getting lost, um, on a different link. Okay.

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So that's all set up and that's perfect. All right.

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All right. Welcome to love seats. If this is your first love seat,

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you're in for a treat. See how that rhymes. Um,

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you are going to be able to participate in our online

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or not our online, but our, our live dating coaching,

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which is what we do on love seats. So everyone comes here.

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This is a co-ed session. Um, you can ask us to be in the love seat.

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Usually we want you to let us know in advance if you want to get in the love

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seat, but if someone here has some kind of really, you know,

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burning question that they want to jump in the love seat and ask in front of

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everyone, then we'll let you do that.

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But that's exactly what we do on love seats.

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People volunteer to personally coach with me in front of everybody else.

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And I'm not always the person that runs love seats,

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but usually if I'm in town and I'm available, then it is me.

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That's going to do it. Um,

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we are going to be having some guest coaches starting in August guys.

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We are going to have a special session on relationship anxiety and what I call

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relationship OCD. You're like Jackie,

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are you saying that we have mental health issues in the area of relationships?

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Kind of

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sometimes, um, if you're not familiar with the OCD acronym,

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it just stands for obsessive compulsive disorder. Okay.

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Dysfunction.

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And it just means that you get intrusive thoughts and obsessive thoughts about

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things,

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thoughts that get stuck and go over and over and cycle over and over again in

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your mind that are not helpful. They're not leading you anywhere productive.

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Actually, lots of times they're worrisome thoughts. They're,

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they're fear-based thoughts or anxiety-based thoughts. Um,

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they're abandonment based thoughts.

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There can be all different types of dis based thoughts that get stuck and you

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continue to focus and fixate on those thoughts.

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And we can do that in relationship. And to me, relationship OCD,

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also known as relationship anxiety can partner with.

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Religious OCD.

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I touched on this a little bit

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in our relationship anxiety series that I already taught,

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but I'm gonna bring on a coach

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that this is their main thing.

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Their main thing is to help people break out

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of the patterns of relationship anxiety

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and relationship OCD.

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And if you add religion to that mix,

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a lot of people can think

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that God's telling them something he's not.

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Specifically, don't go out with them,

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they're not for you, break up with them.

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I'm saying no.

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I have someone else for you or the opposite.

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This is your person.

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This is the person for you.

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It doesn't matter if they don't pay attention to you.

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It doesn't matter if they don't know who you are.

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It doesn't matter if you got hit by a car

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and they right in front of them,

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they would not cross the street to see if you're okay.

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That's your future spouse.

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You had a dream about them.

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You were in prayer at church

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and you felt like God just highlighted them to you

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and said, this is the person.

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Even though once again, they have no interest in you.

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They've never expressed interest in you.

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And that's best case scenario.

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Guys, I've heard it all.

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Worst case scenario is they're married to somebody else

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and you think they're gonna be your spouse.

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Oh, then you tell yourself, well, they must be,

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maybe they're gonna get divorced

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or maybe their spouse is gonna die.

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Y'all, these are terrible thoughts.

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Then you put yourself in some proverbial waiting room,

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waiting for that to play out.

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And then if you're in community with them,

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you might actually start to get unhealthily close to them.

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You might start to flirt with them.

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You might start to do things

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that establish some kind of connection with them.

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And that's fully inappropriate and demonic.

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That is not God telling you that that person

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who is married to someone else is your future spouse.

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All right?

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It isn't.

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Some people get fixated on celebrities.

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I've had plenty of people come to this program

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that told me that they were going to marry a celebrity

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and specifically a specific celebrity.

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And then they tell me who the person is.

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Sometimes that person is married already

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and sometimes that person is single.

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Sometimes it's a Christian celebrity, so to speak,

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famous preacher or singer songwriter,

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and sometimes it's not.

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But they have this intrusive thought,

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this obsessive thought that that is their person.

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And then they start following that person around.

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They start joining fan clubs for that person.

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If the person's a preacher,

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they start going to their church.

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I just had someone ask me the other day,

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they said, hey, someone that I know

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wants to introduce me to a single pastor.

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And then they asked this question,

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should I go to his church and sit on the front row

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so he'll notice me?

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Absolutely not.

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That's completely inappropriate.

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Don't go to some church that's not your church

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because you heard the pastor is single

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and go sit on the front row so that you're in his sight

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so he can notice you and fall in love with you

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or ask you out or get introduced to you guys.

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These are not godly ideas, okay?

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If that person wants you to meet that single pastor

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and they know them, they should make the introduction.

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They shouldn't tell you to go sit on the front row

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of their church so that they can see you

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and you can be a distraction to them

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while they're doing their job.

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Would you show up to anybody else's job like that?

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I mean, think about it for a second.

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Oh, there's this cute pilot that you should meet.

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Would you buy a plane ticket and try to get on his flight

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and try to like go up to the cockpit and meet him

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before he takes off or afterwards?

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I mean, no, you wouldn't do that because that's weird.

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Well, the same with this church stuff.

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Don't just start going to a church

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because you heard some hot guys there that's single.

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That gives the wrong vibes, you guys.

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That's giving off desperation, right?

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If someone wants you to meet somebody

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that goes to their church that's single,

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then they need to play matchmaker.

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They need to play introducer.

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I'm not trying to be harsh,

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but I am trying to put an exclamation point on that

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because that's not appropriate, all right?

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And if it gets out that that's why you did it,

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first of all, most churches,

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you're not gonna just go sit on the front row of the church

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because that's usually their staff

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or usually their team is gonna be sitting up there

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for a good reason because the people that sit up there

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are gonna be the people that don't distract

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the people that are leading the service, right?

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So you're not gonna be able to do that anyway.

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But if it got out that that's why you were at a church,

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I had one of my students here say to me

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that they were thinking about

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just joining a church specifically

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because they heard that there's a lot of single people there.

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You know, if you don't have a church,

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then you definitely should join a church

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that has resources for where you are in life.

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For instance, if you have young children,

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you should join a spiritual community

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that has a good Sunday school,

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that has a good children's program

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so that your kids can, you know, be discipled.

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You're discipling them at home, of course,

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but also that they can have community.

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You definitely should find a church

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where you feel like God's leading you there

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because you're spiritually hungry

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and there's, you know, whatever they're teaching

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and preaching at that church is exactly where you are

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in life and it's what you need, right?

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To grow, to become more like Jesus,

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to be around people that are like-minded and like-spirited.

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These are important things.

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And so I'm not telling you to not go join a church

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that has what you need as a single.

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And if they have a great singles community

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for your age group and you want to go

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because you want to do life with other singles in person,

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then by all means, go check that out.

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But don't go with the motive that

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I'm only going to find my spouse

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or I heard that the pastor's single

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and I'm going to go and, you know,

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try to get him to notice me.

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You guys don't, don't do those things.

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And gentlemen, same thing.

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Don't be those creeper guys that go to churches

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looking for single women.

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Hop all over to different churches

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looking for hot single women.

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Go to churches because you want to grow spiritually

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and go to the spiritual communities

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and join the spiritual communities

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where they have the resources to help you grow spiritually.

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And if your spirit mate's there, then guess what?

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God will bring y'all together.

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Cool? Awesome.

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All right, we're going to start with love seats tonight.

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We have a lot of people that have asked

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to be in the love seat.

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Once again, if you're new,

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you can email us ahead of love seats.

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It's on the calendar when love seat is going to be.

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And so you can email us and say,

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hey, I'd like to be in the love seat.

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Pretty soon on the resource tab on the app for phase three,

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which is community phase for ladies.

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And then gentlemen, your group is already phase three

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because it's phase one, two, and three.

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In the resource tab, there will be a place

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where you can click and ask to be in the love seat as well.

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The same place that has the resource for Ask Jackie.

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All right? Okay.

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So if you are here and you have emailed us,

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I'm going to start with the emailing people.

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And you've asked to be in the love seat.

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Please raise your little digital avatar yellow hand.

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I see five hands up.

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All right.

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All right. Let's pray.

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Father God, I thank you for this time together.

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I thank you, Lord, that you have wisdom for us.

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That's beyond our human pay grade.

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And so we want to lean into your wisdom

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and your understanding, your revelation from heaven.

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Speak to us, speak through us,

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give us the biggest breakthroughs

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in the shortest amount of time

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in the area of our relationships and love lives

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and anything else that comes up tonight in Jesus name.

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Amen.

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All right. So we'll start out with Stacy in Texas.

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Stacy, go ahead and unmute yourself.

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You are on the love seat.

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Hi.

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So went in June to see Jeff in Wisconsin.

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We had a great time.

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We stayed for two days with my friends

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and just did a bunch of stuff.

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For everyone who's just joining this broadcast

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already in process, tell them who Jeff is

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and how long you've been talking

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and then just give them 30 seconds

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of lead up to your question.

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Jeff and I have been talking since March

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and we have acquaintance through high school.

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And so we met up in Wisconsin

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cause I was there to see my family

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and he lives in Indiana.

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I live in Texas.

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He met up with me.

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We spent two days together at my friend's house,

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which by the way, I suggest you do that

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if you're gonna do something long distance,

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stay together, but separate bedrooms,

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separate bathrooms, all that.

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Anyway, had a great time.

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At the end, I said, what's going on here?

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And he said, well, I think I need to come to Austin.

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So he has bought his plane ticket

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and he has bought us concert tickets.

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And so he's gonna come August 16th weekend

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and we're gonna stay at my sister's house,

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my sister, my brother-in-law's house,

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separate bedrooms, separate bathrooms

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and all of those things.

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So this is the question.

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The question is, cause we haven't had a DTR talk.

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I determine the relationship talk.

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Do I need to bring that up if he doesn't,

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or do I just kind of need to relax a little bit?

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So here's the thing, friends, when it's long distance,

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we've already said, and if you're new

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and you're just coming into phase two or phase three,

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and you're just new to this whole, how do we date?

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Like, you know, we're old enough to know better

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for the most part, for all of you.

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How do we date?

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What does this look like?

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Especially long distance,

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you definitely have to make decisions quicker

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when it's long distance, because like she just said,

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there's a lot of investment going on here.

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There's plane tickets being bought, right?

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There's lots of travel happening.

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There's lots of kind of back and forth

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and talking and FaceTiming and all the things

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without having the in-person stuff.

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And so she went there.

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And how many weeks was it before you,

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that you guys talked after being reconnected

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before you actually saw each other in person in Wisconsin?

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March, April, May.

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So probably about 90 days.

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Okay, so three months, you guys.

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Three months of talking.

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That was the soonest that they could get together in person.

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They did get together in person.

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It went well, it went great.

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I definitely agree with Stacey.

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Utilize your resources when you go visit people

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long distance to keep the prices down.

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Also utilize their resources.

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If they want you to come to their town,

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they need to put you up with friends, family, church.

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Like if they don't have any friends or family or church,

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that's a problem.

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Where's their community at?

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If they just move there, okay, we'll call it a yellow flag.

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But if they've lived there for a long time,

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then we're wondering what's up with that, right?

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They should have at least one person

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who can give you some sort of shelter while you're there.

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Especially ladies, when you're traveling,

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if you have the more flexible job,

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you're like, who should travel?

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The person who can.

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And I feel like you should share the cost

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when you're just getting to know each other.

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Guys, both have to get skin in the game.

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You both have to invest in this.

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This isn't going out to dinner and him picking up the check.

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This is you seeing whether or not there's anything here

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and you both have to put an investment of time in

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and energy and maybe even money

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in order to make this happen.

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Now, I don't suggest going and seeing someone

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that you're traveling to see

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that you don't know anyone that they know.

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They're not a known variable to you.

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You met them on the internet.

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You've been talking on a dating app with them,

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but you can't vouch for who they are.

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Don't travel and go see them.

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That's dangerous.

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They're gonna have to come to you for the first time.

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And if they have to wait until they get paid time off

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or whatever, then that's the way it has to be.

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You don't have any business going someplace,

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states away, maybe even an entire side of the country away

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to go meet up with someone

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when you don't know who they are, all right?

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There are exceptions to that.

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If you can get to know people that know them

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and you guys can find common ground

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or if you've just talked to them for a long time

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on FaceTimes and met people that know them

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and you feel safe,

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there's definitely exceptions to rules,

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but for the most part,

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you're gonna want them to come to you.

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So they met up and he said,

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I need to come to Austin next.

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So he already said what he's gonna do next.

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We wanna see that.

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We wanna see intention.

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I've said it before, I'm gonna say it again.

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When it comes to long distance,

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if the guy is not all in after meeting you in person,

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it's not gonna work.

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Let me say that again for the people in the back.

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After seeing each other face to face the first time,

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long distance relationship,

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if the guy is not infatuated enough

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to be all in to this situation,

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if he's just kind of like, eh,

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he can take it or leave it,

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it's gonna putter out.

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It is.

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So this guy liked enough of what he saw

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that he said, I'm gonna come to Austin.

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And then what he did,

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what he, it wasn't just words.

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What did he do?

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He took action.

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He bought his plane ticket.

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He bought concert tickets.

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He got something for them to do.

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That's very divinely masculine.

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I like that so far.

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So when he comes, which is just in a few weeks,

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it's about, actually it's a month from today.

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When he comes to visit,

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I'm sure they're gonna have a great time,

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a roll wind weekend.

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Emotions are gonna be high.

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Have y'all kissed or anything yet?

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Where are you?

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I'm right here.

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Just like mwah.

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But lips to lips?

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Lips to lips, but it was very,

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it was at the end when we said goodbye.

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What about lingering hugs?

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Not much.

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He's pretty-

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What about holding hands?

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Grabbing arms and things like that.

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We touched for sure.

407
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Okay.

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All right.

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So when he comes this time,

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that will probably escalate a little bit

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since there's already,

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kind of guys are-

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He broke the barrier there.

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So that might escalate a little bit out of the concert, all the things.

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All right.

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And so you're going to know whether or not you're having a good time.

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You're going to know whether or not the chemistry is building or

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the chemistry is diminishing.

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Right.

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And if you feel like this is where you're going to have to judge this.

421
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If you feel like the chemistry is building, you feel like he's not just,

422
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you know, having a good time in Austin and going to a concert, but

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that he is really digging you.

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Right.

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And you guys are beginning to share some deeper, more vulnerable

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things with each other on this trip.

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Then it is appropriate for you or him to say, Hey, you know, this is long

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distance and it is a bigger investment.

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Um, do we see enough potential here to keep this going?

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Do we want to, are we feeling it?

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And hopefully it sounds like he's a really intentional guy.

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You know, as far as he he's told you from the beginning, what it was going

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to, what he was going to do and he's done it.

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So I don't see him leaving Austin without having a conversation

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about what's going to happen next, but it's fully permissible for you

436
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to have a next steps conversation.

437
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Okay.

438
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Then I have one more question.

439
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So he is, um, he's pretty social.

440
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And I had said something about meeting some of my friends and he's like, yeah.

441
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So Jackie, do you think, tell me what you think?

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Cause you kind of know about my community a little bit and stuff.

443
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Like, should I do that or should I just keep it low key?

444
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No, I think you should.

445
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I think he should totally see the community that you're involved with

446
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and you should have a lot of fun.

447
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Okay.

448
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Yeah.

449
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Yeah.

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I mean, you know, your parents don't live here, so, you know, these are just

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your friends and, you know, these are people that you do life with.

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And I feel like these are people that actually bring out the best in you.

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So it's going to actually paint you in an even better light because he's going

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to see, you know, how many people just love and respect you and it brings out

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your, you know, your fun and all the things.

456
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Okay.

457
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So yeah.

458
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Okay.

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Now I would, I would definitely say 80, 20.

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So 80%, just you guys and then 20% others.

461
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So, okay.

462
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Um, I'm just writing down something.

463
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Okay.

464
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Okay.

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All right.

466
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So that's exciting.

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So we're excited for you, Stacy.

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Yay.

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All right.

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Go ahead and raise.

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I know we have some avatar hands up for people jumping in a love suit seat, but

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I want you to go ahead and raise your hand.

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If you are in some level of getting to know someone like, and it's going good.

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You're in some level of getting to know someone.

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You might be in just level two.

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You're just still kind of seeing each other in the talking stage, or you're

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all the way to, um, the official boyfriend and girlfriend stage, or

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maybe you already are engaged.

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Let's see how many hands of people.

480
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Okay.

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That's quite, that's quite a bit of people.

482
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Okay.

483
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And for those of you that don't have your hand up, get ready, get ready.

484
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Um, you guys, I did do, I, I subbed this morning for prayer.

485
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I was a sub this morning, but God gave us an amazing word.

486
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And so we did record this morning for prayer and we're going to make

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that available for all of you, even though it was ladies prayer, gentlemen,

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we're going to put it in your group.

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So if any of my team are on here, please put that in the

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men's group replays as well.

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It's a powerful word.

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If you've been discouraged at all, you want to listen to what God said to us.

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You want to listen to what God said to us this morning, because

494
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it's going to light you up.

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Light you up.

496
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Okay.

497
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Um, next in line, Shannon, you are in the love seat.

498
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Hello.

499
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Um, all right.

500
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So I have been, um, I guess in a level two relationship with a guy, his

501
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name is Lee for the past two months.

502
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Um, and we've seen each other pretty much once a week for the past two months.

503
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Um, I've been on the phone, you know, communicating.

504
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Um, I get the sense that he is.

505
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On track to kind of see if we want to go to level three shortly, which is why

506
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I'm just kind of now like wondering if it should, so he is a Christian.

507
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He's very intentional.

508
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Um, he always plans stuff that we do.

509
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He makes sure that I'm okay.

510
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Like he's, he's, he's very gentleman, like picks me up for the dates, like

511
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just very intentional with that.

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So that is something that stands out to me.

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The one, or I guess the two things that I'm just kind of wondering and wanting

514
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to make sure I understand is our compatible lifestyles.

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So I am a very active person.

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Like I go to the gym every day.

517
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Um, I like to be in community.

518
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I'm very involved in my church.

519
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Him on the other hand, doesn't have a notion to work out.

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00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:06.200
He's more of a farm guy, likes to work on his gardens and animals.

521
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:10.920
So I just, and I did ask him like, if he does go to church every Sunday, he's involved in

522
00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:12.720
a prayer group.

523
00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:17.800
But in terms of like getting more involved in the church and having that community, he

524
00:25:17.800 --> 00:25:19.400
didn't really have interest in that.

525
00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:24.520
So I guess I want to just make sure, and by understanding that I don't know if we would

526
00:25:24.520 --> 00:25:30.320
be able to keep up with each other just because our lifestyles are very different versus well,

527
00:25:30.320 --> 00:25:36.800
yeah, maybe some interests can change when you're with someone, if that makes sense.

528
00:25:36.800 --> 00:25:37.800
Okay.

529
00:25:37.800 --> 00:25:38.800
So let me ask you a question.

530
00:25:38.800 --> 00:25:41.000
Do you like the outdoors?

531
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:49.200
I enjoy being outside walking nature, but if I'm camping, not really.

532
00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:50.320
Okay.

533
00:25:50.320 --> 00:25:53.080
Does he live on a farm?

534
00:25:53.080 --> 00:25:59.880
He lives on a very big property that has chickens and sheep and animals gardens.

535
00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:02.840
How do you feel about that?

536
00:26:02.840 --> 00:26:06.080
That's just not my, my forte.

537
00:26:06.080 --> 00:26:11.400
Like I'm a more of a suburban girl, right?

538
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:16.920
And I was definitely more of a city girl before I moved to two and a half acres in hill country,

539
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:17.920
but I love it out here.

540
00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:18.920
It's super quiet.

541
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:23.480
With no chickens because the coyotes ate all of my neighbor's chickens.

542
00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:27.800
And I'm not going to do that to my heart because I will name each one of those girls.

543
00:26:27.800 --> 00:26:30.880
And if they get eaten by coyotes, it's not going to be pretty.

544
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:31.880
All right.

545
00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:37.680
But I have a space for a garden and I definitely want to give that a chance eventually when

546
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:43.840
I have some time, the bottom line is, is that unless he is looking for a farm wife and he's

547
00:26:43.840 --> 00:26:48.280
going to expect you to milk the cows and do the things, you know, um, as long as you're

548
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:52.400
not too far from town, my grandparents used to have a farm and they didn't live too far

549
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:53.400
from town.

550
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:55.520
Um, it can be a great life.

551
00:26:55.520 --> 00:27:02.160
I want you all to really understand that even though it wasn't what you did before, it doesn't

552
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:05.040
mean that you might not like it, right?

553
00:27:05.040 --> 00:27:07.140
Same with them having change as well.

554
00:27:07.140 --> 00:27:11.160
And when you're saying that you're a gym girl and you'd like to work out your gym girly,

555
00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:16.480
well, you know, functional exercise, the exercise on the farm is exercise.

556
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.480
That's a lot of hard work exercise right there.

557
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:22.720
You know, going out, doing the garden, remember my grandparents had a garden.

558
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:27.840
So my grandpa was always out there sweating, working in his garden, you know, taking care

559
00:27:27.840 --> 00:27:29.160
of the animals.

560
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:36.400
And so I'm just saying that those things don't have to be, they have to be complimentary.

561
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:40.940
They have to be simpatico in the way that you're willing to really enjoy things that

562
00:27:40.940 --> 00:27:45.400
other people enjoy, as long as they're willing to enjoy what you enjoy as well, a little

563
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.000
bit country, a little bit rock and roll, you know?

564
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:51.840
And so these are the conversations that you guys need to have going forward is that, Hey,

565
00:27:51.840 --> 00:27:53.840
we're attracted to each other.

566
00:27:53.840 --> 00:27:58.320
You like the old fashioned part of him, which happens to come with kind of a ranch life

567
00:27:58.320 --> 00:27:59.520
as well.

568
00:27:59.520 --> 00:28:01.880
And so like, what are his expectations?

569
00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:07.360
You guys have been talking long enough that you can go ahead and talk about like, what,

570
00:28:07.360 --> 00:28:10.160
what are his expectations in a love story?

571
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:15.400
Like what kind of like, what does he picture his future life and marriage looking like

572
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.520
and see if there's any synergy in those things.

573
00:28:18.520 --> 00:28:24.000
And I'll tell you something about men as far as church goes, friends, church, especially

574
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:28.480
North American, American church here in the United States of America, it's really set

575
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:30.240
up for women and children.

576
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:31.240
For the most part.

577
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:32.240
It really is.

578
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:37.560
It's set up to attract women and children, okay.

579
00:28:37.560 --> 00:28:43.320
In the way that, you know, these long worship sets and it's dark and there's like dry ice

580
00:28:43.320 --> 00:28:50.080
and smoke and you know, it's really emotional a lot of times in its presentation.

581
00:28:50.080 --> 00:28:53.680
And then of course you have all this fun stuff for kids to do and all the things guys are

582
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:55.480
not always into that.

583
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.840
My husband checks out and we go to church, you know, he's sitting there, he's listening

584
00:28:58.840 --> 00:29:05.960
and stuff, but he's not necessarily like loving the model, the format he comes because I go

585
00:29:06.280 --> 00:29:13.000
And ladies, if you marry a man who wants a spirit mate and wants you to be the feminine

586
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:17.500
in his life, he is going to do things that please you.

587
00:29:17.500 --> 00:29:21.320
And one of those things is he's going to want, he's going to go to community because it pleases

588
00:29:21.320 --> 00:29:22.320
you.

589
00:29:22.320 --> 00:29:23.320
And then guess what?

590
00:29:23.320 --> 00:29:28.160
When they get there, they find things to, for them to attach to as well, right?

591
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:31.360
My husband has friends at church, you know, my kids are adults.

592
00:29:31.360 --> 00:29:36.880
So my kids have friends that my husband also is kind of like mentoring and stuff.

593
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:41.040
And then we all go out to eat afterwards and we hang out together and we do life together.

594
00:29:41.040 --> 00:29:45.320
And so just because a guy has not joined like 15 groups at his church and he's not part

595
00:29:45.320 --> 00:29:49.000
of a cell group and you know, he's not an usher at his church and he's not, that doesn't

596
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.480
mean that he's not spiritually involved.

597
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.660
It just means he's not that social of a person and you're going to be the social director

598
00:29:56.660 --> 00:29:58.640
of your marriage.

599
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:00.280
I'm the social director of my marriage.

600
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.120
but as long as your husband is wanting,

601
00:30:03.120 --> 00:30:05.240
and we cover this in Simbis, you guys,

602
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:06.960
if you get engaged or you get to level three

603
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:08.680
and you want to see if you're really compatible,

604
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:11.240
take Simbis because we cover community

605
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:13.000
and we cover the kinds of topics

606
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:15.040
we're talking about right now

607
00:30:15.040 --> 00:30:17.840
because you have to have community together.

608
00:30:17.840 --> 00:30:22.120
So I want to challenge you, my friend,

609
00:30:22.120 --> 00:30:25.000
to have a conversation with him

610
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:29.440
about what does he think that his life looks like?

611
00:30:30.040 --> 00:30:31.920
In the future with his spirit mate,

612
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:33.400
like, what does that look like?

613
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:35.960
And see if you guys can talk about that

614
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:39.000
and then see how you feel after that conversation.

615
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:40.440
Okay.

616
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:41.280
Okay?

617
00:30:41.280 --> 00:30:42.120
All right.

618
00:30:42.120 --> 00:30:43.520
And I don't like to camp either.

619
00:30:43.520 --> 00:30:44.880
I don't want to go camping.

620
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.280
I mean, I'll go stay in a cabin.

621
00:30:48.280 --> 00:30:50.880
Yes, that's more my cup of tea too,

622
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.160
but a tent, I just, that's just, I can't do.

623
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:55.080
Yeah.

624
00:30:55.080 --> 00:30:56.720
And just because he likes, you know,

625
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:58.680
a garden and some chickens doesn't mean

626
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:00.920
that he's going to make you be in a tent.

627
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.320
So, right?

628
00:31:03.320 --> 00:31:04.600
You know, just because he wants to go out

629
00:31:04.600 --> 00:31:06.360
and kill Bambi's mother doesn't mean

630
00:31:06.360 --> 00:31:08.080
he wants you to go hunting with him.

631
00:31:08.080 --> 00:31:10.240
You know, guys, like a lot of men that are like that,

632
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:13.000
they like men's stuff and they do it with men.

633
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:16.120
They're not expecting us to be doing that

634
00:31:16.120 --> 00:31:18.920
or be interested in that in any way.

635
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:19.760
All right.

636
00:31:19.760 --> 00:31:20.600
Cool.

637
00:31:20.600 --> 00:31:21.440
All right.

638
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.680
So she's going to report back to us after she has that.

639
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:29.600
I put something on my Instagram today, you guys.

640
00:31:29.600 --> 00:31:32.680
And it said, I forget.

641
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.800
So I've just got to read it to you.

642
00:31:34.800 --> 00:31:38.040
Don't settle for less because more is out there

643
00:31:38.040 --> 00:31:39.320
and it's looking for you.

644
00:31:39.320 --> 00:31:40.880
And then the caption is,

645
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:42.920
you might really be tempted to settle for things

646
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:44.360
you know are not right for your life

647
00:31:44.360 --> 00:31:47.520
because you're scared that there's nothing better out there.

648
00:31:47.520 --> 00:31:50.240
Please believe me when I tell you that better exists

649
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:51.600
and it's looking for you.

650
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:53.200
Make sure when it finds you

651
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.360
that you're still single and ready for love,

652
00:31:55.360 --> 00:31:57.120
meaning that you haven't just went ahead

653
00:31:57.120 --> 00:31:59.600
and taken yourself off the market for something.

654
00:31:59.600 --> 00:32:04.600
You guys, that post is 100% about unhealthy relationship.

655
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:09.920
It's not about what I'm talking to her about.

656
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:14.280
A lot of times we'll think that the better

657
00:32:14.280 --> 00:32:17.560
is something that 100% fits our current life.

658
00:32:17.560 --> 00:32:18.960
Guys, I'm going to tell you something

659
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:20.720
and it's really important that you hear it.

660
00:32:20.760 --> 00:32:23.560
If you want to get married, your life's going to change.

661
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:26.320
Please listen to me.

662
00:32:26.320 --> 00:32:27.160
I'm going to say it again.

663
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.600
If you want to partner,

664
00:32:29.600 --> 00:32:31.680
you are not allowed to keep your life

665
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:33.720
the way it is right now.

666
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:35.160
You're not going to.

667
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.520
If you're looking for someone to just come

668
00:32:37.520 --> 00:32:39.280
and fit into your current life

669
00:32:39.280 --> 00:32:40.720
and do everything that you like

670
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:43.360
and be at the same community

671
00:32:43.360 --> 00:32:45.000
and do all the same activities

672
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.880
and have the same friends,

673
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:48.240
that's not going to happen.

674
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:53.400
And the reason why I'm being so maybe even aggressive

675
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.200
with this topic right now

676
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:58.040
is because I have seen people get separated

677
00:32:58.040 --> 00:33:00.320
in this community after they got married

678
00:33:00.320 --> 00:33:03.080
because they thought that they were just going

679
00:33:03.080 --> 00:33:04.600
to be able to keep their single life

680
00:33:04.600 --> 00:33:06.560
and add another person to it.

681
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:11.800
That's not the way this works.

682
00:33:13.040 --> 00:33:15.000
It does not work that way.

683
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:16.800
When my husband and I got married,

684
00:33:16.840 --> 00:33:18.320
we ended up leaving the church

685
00:33:18.320 --> 00:33:21.400
that he was at for 27 years.

686
00:33:23.040 --> 00:33:24.200
Why?

687
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:25.640
Because Jackie didn't want to go there?

688
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:28.640
No, because God called us out,

689
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:30.120
called us somewhere else,

690
00:33:30.120 --> 00:33:32.760
someplace neither one of us had ever been.

691
00:33:32.760 --> 00:33:35.120
We didn't end up with the same friends.

692
00:33:35.120 --> 00:33:37.640
My best friend for 20 years,

693
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:38.720
I barely even talked to her.

694
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:41.400
I think she's best friends with someone else now.

695
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:42.880
It isn't because I was mad at her.

696
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:44.240
I didn't break up with her.

697
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:45.480
I just moved on.

698
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:49.200
I moved far, far away.

699
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:51.920
And that's just what it looks like.

700
00:33:53.520 --> 00:33:55.760
I have different hobbies than I had before.

701
00:33:55.760 --> 00:33:57.720
There's some things that are the same,

702
00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:59.360
but a lot is different.

703
00:33:59.360 --> 00:34:02.080
And I want you guys to go ahead and embrace that idea

704
00:34:02.080 --> 00:34:05.320
because if you're not willing to sign up for change

705
00:34:05.320 --> 00:34:07.200
and maybe radical change,

706
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:08.840
then marriage is not for you.

707
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:13.920
Get a roommate.

708
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:14.760
Get a dog.

709
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:21.199
You know, seriously, marriage is not for you

710
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:25.560
if you're not willing to be radically

711
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:29.159
stretched.

712
00:34:30.080 --> 00:34:31.080
Okay.

713
00:34:31.080 --> 00:34:33.120
All right, Katie, you're in the love seat.

714
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:37.880
Yeah, thanks.

715
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:40.960
So I have been dating Robert.

716
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:44.080
Our first date was December 31st

717
00:34:45.080 --> 00:34:48.239
and about two months in is when I stopped seeing other people

718
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:50.320
to just be exclusive with him.

719
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:55.280
And we're level three, have been since probably

720
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:57.880
about two months in.

721
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:00.200
And I've been-

722
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.720
feeling for a while that we were reaching this crossroads

723
00:35:03.720 --> 00:35:07.080
where either it was about to get really, really good

724
00:35:07.080 --> 00:35:08.560
or it was time to call it.

725
00:35:09.640 --> 00:35:12.080
And I actually feel like I kind of made a decision

726
00:35:12.080 --> 00:35:14.840
but I wanted to bring it still to the coaching

727
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:16.840
to see if there's something I'm missing.

728
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:18.760
But feeling like-

729
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:21.200
Hey, wait, I need a little bit of clarity

730
00:35:21.200 --> 00:35:22.200
before you say anything more.

731
00:35:22.200 --> 00:35:25.080
How long have you been talking?

732
00:35:25.080 --> 00:35:25.900
Six months.

733
00:35:25.900 --> 00:35:28.080
We just had our six month anniversary.

734
00:35:28.080 --> 00:35:29.880
Six month anniversary.

735
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:31.160
How long of that six months

736
00:35:31.160 --> 00:35:33.680
have you been official level three?

737
00:35:33.680 --> 00:35:35.180
Four.

738
00:35:35.180 --> 00:35:36.020
Four months.

739
00:35:37.640 --> 00:35:39.520
And did he ask you to be his girlfriend

740
00:35:39.520 --> 00:35:42.120
or did you just kind of fall into it and decide together?

741
00:35:42.120 --> 00:35:44.680
Just kind of fell into it, decided together.

742
00:35:44.680 --> 00:35:46.840
Okay, but there was a conversation at some point

743
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:48.400
that, hey, we're exclusive, we're together,

744
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:49.880
we're not seeing anybody else.

745
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:50.920
Yes.

746
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:51.880
Okay.

747
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.600
And you feel like after six months,

748
00:35:54.600 --> 00:35:58.880
I mean, so you feel like there's a kind of like

749
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.520
make it or break it thing that you're at right now

750
00:36:01.520 --> 00:36:03.120
where we're either gonna go forward

751
00:36:03.120 --> 00:36:05.040
into like what, engagement, marriage,

752
00:36:05.040 --> 00:36:06.840
or we're gonna go our separate ways?

753
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:12.640
I don't think we would be moving towards engagement yet.

754
00:36:12.640 --> 00:36:16.320
I see him as a potential husband

755
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:19.880
and I see that there's possibility of us having kids.

756
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.720
I feel like I am definitely falling in love with him

757
00:36:22.720 --> 00:36:25.300
but I also feel like there's a lot of ways

758
00:36:25.300 --> 00:36:29.100
that he's not stepping up and stepping into this

759
00:36:29.100 --> 00:36:32.460
and there's lots of fear and anxiety

760
00:36:32.460 --> 00:36:35.620
that kind of rules his life

761
00:36:35.620 --> 00:36:38.800
and affects our relationship in a really negative way.

762
00:36:40.140 --> 00:36:41.060
And so-

763
00:36:41.060 --> 00:36:42.460
Can you wave your hand around

764
00:36:42.460 --> 00:36:44.500
because I'm having trouble finding you.

765
00:36:44.500 --> 00:36:45.320
Okay, there you are.

766
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:46.160
Thank you.

767
00:36:46.160 --> 00:36:46.980
All right.

768
00:36:46.980 --> 00:36:48.940
Okay, so you said that you feel like

769
00:36:48.940 --> 00:36:51.620
you know what's gonna happen next.

770
00:36:51.620 --> 00:36:53.580
You feel like you're coming here

771
00:36:53.620 --> 00:36:55.700
for kind of like even maybe a confirmation.

772
00:36:55.700 --> 00:36:56.600
So what is that?

773
00:36:57.780 --> 00:36:59.980
Yeah, I'm feeling like it's time to end it.

774
00:37:02.380 --> 00:37:05.940
So I've been looking at my Jesus Cares board.

775
00:37:05.940 --> 00:37:10.020
There's a lot of things he checks off in a lot of good ways.

776
00:37:10.020 --> 00:37:14.140
We're complementary in very,

777
00:37:14.140 --> 00:37:16.380
we're opposite complementary.

778
00:37:16.380 --> 00:37:19.700
I'm introverted but more outgoing than he is

779
00:37:19.700 --> 00:37:22.420
where he is very, very introverted.

780
00:37:22.740 --> 00:37:26.220
Doesn't socialize with anybody.

781
00:37:26.220 --> 00:37:27.820
How often do you see each other?

782
00:37:29.660 --> 00:37:30.940
Two to three times a week.

783
00:37:31.900 --> 00:37:33.380
So you live close?

784
00:37:33.380 --> 00:37:35.340
Yeah, about 35 minutes away.

785
00:37:35.340 --> 00:37:36.900
Any kids involved?

786
00:37:36.900 --> 00:37:38.380
Nope.

787
00:37:38.380 --> 00:37:40.620
Okay, either of you ever been married?

788
00:37:40.620 --> 00:37:42.180
Nope.

789
00:37:42.180 --> 00:37:43.780
You're falling in love with him?

790
00:37:45.500 --> 00:37:49.980
Yeah, I feel like there's, I'm headed that way, yeah.

791
00:37:49.980 --> 00:37:52.540
I don't feel like I'm in love yet.

792
00:37:52.540 --> 00:37:55.700
But you're headed that way and you wanna pull the plug

793
00:37:55.700 --> 00:37:58.260
because you don't think he's falling in love with you.

794
00:37:58.260 --> 00:38:01.180
You're getting more serious than he's getting.

795
00:38:01.180 --> 00:38:02.860
What's your evidence of that?

796
00:38:02.860 --> 00:38:04.500
He's seeing you two to three times a week.

797
00:38:04.500 --> 00:38:06.060
What's your evidence?

798
00:38:06.060 --> 00:38:07.940
For four months, he's been seeing you

799
00:38:07.940 --> 00:38:10.940
two to three times a week, yes?

800
00:38:10.940 --> 00:38:12.540
Yeah, it's not that I don't think

801
00:38:12.540 --> 00:38:14.740
he's falling in love with me.

802
00:38:14.740 --> 00:38:18.060
I just see some really big core issues for us

803
00:38:18.060 --> 00:38:20.180
that are not in alignment.

804
00:38:20.180 --> 00:38:22.500
Our faith, for one.

805
00:38:22.500 --> 00:38:23.900
Okay, tell me about that.

806
00:38:26.580 --> 00:38:28.260
I'm very involved in my church.

807
00:38:28.260 --> 00:38:31.140
I've been in leadership, want to be a church planter,

808
00:38:32.420 --> 00:38:34.100
involved every single week.

809
00:38:34.100 --> 00:38:35.580
He has a life of faith

810
00:38:35.580 --> 00:38:39.100
and he has been a part of the same denomination as me,

811
00:38:39.100 --> 00:38:41.780
but he has issues with the church

812
00:38:41.780 --> 00:38:45.820
because of some racial issues and political issues.

813
00:38:46.740 --> 00:38:49.220
He told me that he wants to get involved again

814
00:38:49.220 --> 00:38:52.180
and he feels the desire and drive to go back,

815
00:38:52.180 --> 00:38:55.020
but his words and actions don't match.

816
00:38:56.460 --> 00:39:00.340
He's not going because in the season

817
00:39:00.340 --> 00:39:02.420
that we're in, racial, politically,

818
00:39:02.420 --> 00:39:05.180
he just has hard time with that.

819
00:39:06.860 --> 00:39:08.700
Does he have, outside of the church,

820
00:39:08.700 --> 00:39:09.980
does he have spiritual community?

821
00:39:09.980 --> 00:39:11.980
Does he have friends that are believers?

822
00:39:11.980 --> 00:39:14.460
Does he have men in his life?

823
00:39:15.300 --> 00:39:18.380
How do you see him as a man of faith?

824
00:39:18.380 --> 00:39:21.860
What kind of relationship does he have with God

825
00:39:21.860 --> 00:39:23.540
and what is the fruit of that?

826
00:39:24.500 --> 00:39:26.620
Yeah, that's what I've been searching for

827
00:39:26.620 --> 00:39:28.980
and looking for at first,

828
00:39:29.900 --> 00:39:31.980
just trusting his word that like,

829
00:39:31.980 --> 00:39:34.220
yeah, I'm in the Bible, I'm reading my Bible,

830
00:39:34.220 --> 00:39:36.500
I'm listening to worship,

831
00:39:36.500 --> 00:39:40.220
but I don't, the more and more I ask about it,

832
00:39:40.220 --> 00:39:42.900
the more and more I invite-

833
00:39:42.900 --> 00:39:43.740
But the thing is,

834
00:39:43.740 --> 00:39:45.980
as you're spending two to three times a week with him,

835
00:39:45.980 --> 00:39:47.660
what kind of fruit do you see in your life?

836
00:39:47.660 --> 00:39:48.500
Is he kind?

837
00:39:48.500 --> 00:39:49.340
Is he gentle?

838
00:39:49.340 --> 00:39:50.500
Is he generous?

839
00:39:50.500 --> 00:39:52.380
You know, what do you see?

840
00:39:52.380 --> 00:39:55.060
He is kind, he's generous.

841
00:39:55.060 --> 00:39:58.980
He does have anger issues that bubble up,

842
00:39:58.980 --> 00:39:59.820
but I mean-

843
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.800
I do too. So, okay.

844
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:03.420
He has anger issues that bubble up.

845
00:40:03.420 --> 00:40:04.660
Give me an example.

846
00:40:05.900 --> 00:40:08.540
Road rage is his biggest one.

847
00:40:08.540 --> 00:40:10.100
Okay. Let me tell you,

848
00:40:10.100 --> 00:40:12.700
let me tell you guys something about men, gentlemen.

849
00:40:12.700 --> 00:40:15.420
You can, it doesn't have to be true of every man,

850
00:40:15.420 --> 00:40:19.060
but men don't like to feel weak

851
00:40:19.060 --> 00:40:21.540
because they're brainwashed from the time they're born

852
00:40:21.540 --> 00:40:22.820
that they're not allowed to.

853
00:40:22.820 --> 00:40:24.180
Okay. Especially in America.

854
00:40:24.180 --> 00:40:27.140
And so when men feel emotion,

855
00:40:27.160 --> 00:40:29.960
it usually gets transmuted into anger.

856
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.840
Okay. They feel frustrated, angry.

857
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:34.840
They feel sad, angry.

858
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:37.040
They, do you guys see what I'm saying here?

859
00:40:38.640 --> 00:40:42.040
So that's what happens because they're taught

860
00:40:42.040 --> 00:40:43.440
that they're not allowed to cry.

861
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:44.640
They're not, they shouldn't be weak.

862
00:40:44.640 --> 00:40:45.640
They shouldn't, you know,

863
00:40:45.640 --> 00:40:48.800
they shouldn't be pathetic or pitiful.

864
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:51.100
You know, they shouldn't, you know, whatever.

865
00:40:52.300 --> 00:40:54.240
And a lot of times when we have that deep,

866
00:40:54.240 --> 00:40:57.000
deep rooted sorrow and trauma as a man

867
00:40:57.860 --> 00:41:00.740
that we're not dealing with, that we haven't gotten healed,

868
00:41:00.740 --> 00:41:03.060
anger is just right at the surface.

869
00:41:03.060 --> 00:41:04.860
And that's where road rage comes from.

870
00:41:04.860 --> 00:41:08.220
That's like different things that are not being dealt with

871
00:41:08.220 --> 00:41:11.740
deeper inside of the person that are just like popping off

872
00:41:11.740 --> 00:41:15.580
on the surface when there's any kind of trigger, right?

873
00:41:15.580 --> 00:41:17.180
Has he ever expressed anger towards you?

874
00:41:17.180 --> 00:41:18.700
Has he been verbally abusive?

875
00:41:18.700 --> 00:41:21.220
Has he any kind of aggression towards you?

876
00:41:23.420 --> 00:41:24.900
And you're with him two to three times a week,

877
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:26.800
but you're saying that he exhibits

878
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:27.880
other fruit of the spirit.

879
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:31.520
So he exhibits generosity and kindness.

880
00:41:31.520 --> 00:41:32.440
He's gentle.

881
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:33.360
He's a gentleman.

882
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:38.360
Has he respected and even protected your sexuality?

883
00:41:38.720 --> 00:41:39.560
Yes.

884
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:41.240
Okay.

885
00:41:41.240 --> 00:41:43.200
There's a lot of green flags there, honey.

886
00:41:43.200 --> 00:41:44.040
Yeah.

887
00:41:44.040 --> 00:41:44.880
All right.

888
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:45.700
Here's the thing.

889
00:41:45.700 --> 00:41:46.540
There's the thing.

890
00:41:46.540 --> 00:41:48.000
And I want her to hear this and I want us all to hear this.

891
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:50.120
We are not looking for perfect men or women.

892
00:41:50.120 --> 00:41:51.880
We're looking for people that are trying

893
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.640
and you are never ever going to find anyone

894
00:41:55.300 --> 00:41:57.380
who is not struggling or in process

895
00:41:57.380 --> 00:41:59.260
in an area of their life.

896
00:41:59.260 --> 00:42:01.580
So many people right now in this generation

897
00:42:01.580 --> 00:42:03.020
that we're living in because,

898
00:42:03.020 --> 00:42:04.620
guys, look at all the mega churches

899
00:42:04.620 --> 00:42:06.660
that are falling and failing because of abuse

900
00:42:06.660 --> 00:42:09.180
and because of sexual immorality

901
00:42:09.180 --> 00:42:11.020
and all the crazy stuff that's been happening

902
00:42:11.020 --> 00:42:12.180
behind the scenes.

903
00:42:12.180 --> 00:42:13.840
People, especially men,

904
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:15.500
because they're more practical and logical,

905
00:42:15.500 --> 00:42:18.180
they don't trust stuff like that.

906
00:42:18.180 --> 00:42:21.180
Institutionalized spirituality.

907
00:42:21.200 --> 00:42:24.240
And of course, we're in a highly, highly,

908
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:27.760
what's the word?

909
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:30.520
Not detonated.

910
00:42:30.520 --> 00:42:33.360
Highly charged political season

911
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.980
where literally our former president

912
00:42:35.980 --> 00:42:37.800
just almost got assassinated.

913
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.560
Like two inches from getting shot in the head.

914
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:42.240
All right.

915
00:42:42.240 --> 00:42:45.200
We're living in crazy, crazy, crazy times.

916
00:42:45.200 --> 00:42:47.920
And so, yes, there's a lot of people

917
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:49.840
deconstructing right now.

918
00:42:49.860 --> 00:42:53.420
Now, I'm not here to tell you not to call it quits

919
00:42:54.300 --> 00:42:56.500
or to call it quits,

920
00:42:56.500 --> 00:42:59.140
but I am saying that it's important

921
00:42:59.140 --> 00:43:01.060
that you understand that no one

922
00:43:01.060 --> 00:43:02.980
is going to ever have it all together.

923
00:43:04.460 --> 00:43:05.420
Yeah.

924
00:43:05.420 --> 00:43:08.660
As long as they want to try to have it all together.

925
00:43:08.660 --> 00:43:12.340
And remember, friends, we're not gift inspectors.

926
00:43:12.340 --> 00:43:13.380
We're not looking for someone.

927
00:43:13.380 --> 00:43:16.460
How many hours did you volunteer at church this week?

928
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:17.840
You know?

929
00:43:19.200 --> 00:43:20.840
We're not looking for gift inspectors.

930
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:22.400
We're looking for fruit inspectors.

931
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:26.360
Fruit is the only true indicator of relationship with God.

932
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:28.160
It is the only true indicator.

933
00:43:28.160 --> 00:43:30.040
And no one can fake it till they make it.

934
00:43:30.040 --> 00:43:31.320
Eventually, you're gonna see

935
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.080
whether or not their fruit is real.

936
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:34.940
Yeah.

937
00:43:34.940 --> 00:43:37.440
Whether it really is from them being in the word.

938
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:39.980
Whether it really is from them spending time with God.

939
00:43:39.980 --> 00:43:42.780
And just because they're not spending time

940
00:43:42.780 --> 00:43:44.900
in a building that we call church,

941
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:48.440
right?

942
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:49.400
And we want that, you guys.

943
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:50.760
We have to have community,

944
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:53.900
especially now more than ever, ever before.

945
00:43:53.900 --> 00:43:55.620
So one thing that I want to say to you

946
00:43:55.620 --> 00:43:59.880
before you pull the plug is offer this community to him.

947
00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:01.920
We have an amazing men's community.

948
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:04.280
It sounds like he needs men in his life.

949
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:05.480
A lot of people that come here

950
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:07.040
are people that have been spiritually hurt.

951
00:44:07.040 --> 00:44:08.560
You know, you can tell him that my husband

952
00:44:08.560 --> 00:44:11.280
was at a mega church for 27 years

953
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:13.560
and on staff for 15 of those years,

954
00:44:13.560 --> 00:44:16.920
and they fired him out of nowhere

955
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:19.420
after he'd given his entire life to them

956
00:44:19.420 --> 00:44:21.620
and really hurt, it really hurt him.

957
00:44:21.620 --> 00:44:23.020
And now that same mega church

958
00:44:23.020 --> 00:44:26.460
is falling under horrible scrutiny

959
00:44:26.460 --> 00:44:30.340
because of all kinds of terrible things that they've done.

960
00:44:30.340 --> 00:44:32.500
And so my husband is finally getting some vindication

961
00:44:32.500 --> 00:44:35.460
and some healing from giving so much of his life

962
00:44:35.460 --> 00:44:38.580
to someplace that could throw him away so easily.

963
00:44:38.580 --> 00:44:40.080
And so, so many people have been hurt

964
00:44:40.080 --> 00:44:43.380
by what we call church and they've deconstructed.

965
00:44:44.200 --> 00:44:45.440
So now it's time to reconstruct.

966
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.440
And so definitely offer that to him.

967
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:49.840
We'll be praying for you.

968
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:51.040
We can't give you, like I said,

969
00:44:51.040 --> 00:44:52.480
we can't give you a yes or no,

970
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:54.680
but based on what you've said today,

971
00:44:54.680 --> 00:44:56.680
it sounds like he's a really good guy

972
00:44:56.680 --> 00:44:59.960
who is just on the back burner of ministry.

973
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.200
because of things that have happened in his life.

974
00:45:02.200 --> 00:45:04.020
And people like that get moved

975
00:45:04.020 --> 00:45:06.400
to the front burner pretty quickly.

976
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:10.260
Yeah, I've heard the coaching and from a lot of calls

977
00:45:10.260 --> 00:45:13.200
and that's what's kept me holding on of like,

978
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:17.240
being the social director for people's lives

979
00:45:17.240 --> 00:45:20.940
that you feel like there's this prophetic word

980
00:45:20.940 --> 00:45:24.180
that women are bringing men to the church to kind of,

981
00:45:25.080 --> 00:45:27.800
where they just need that catalyst to get there.

982
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:29.080
And so those are things that I'm like,

983
00:45:29.080 --> 00:45:32.680
okay, I see that that could be playing out for us.

984
00:45:32.680 --> 00:45:34.640
The other thing that I see-

985
00:45:34.640 --> 00:45:36.760
I wanna say one more thing before you say that

986
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:37.920
because I wanna answer that.

987
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.960
I don't think that women are bringing men to the church.

988
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:42.880
I'm gonna say something pretty scandalous.

989
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:46.420
I think that, I think church, the church age is over.

990
00:45:47.640 --> 00:45:49.560
And if you quit my community because of this,

991
00:45:49.560 --> 00:45:52.160
then you're probably taking what I'm saying out of context.

992
00:45:52.160 --> 00:45:53.480
I believe the church age,

993
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:56.640
the building of the church age is over.

994
00:45:56.640 --> 00:45:58.200
I believe that we're in a kingdom age

995
00:45:58.200 --> 00:45:59.440
and I believe that kingdom looks like

996
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:00.840
a lot of things, friends.

997
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:02.500
It looks like doing life together

998
00:46:02.500 --> 00:46:04.400
with like-minded believers that are going

999
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:05.480
the same direction.

1000
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:07.560
Now, we always talk about the book of Daniel and Daniel

1001
00:46:07.560 --> 00:46:09.680
and how he was able to stand up to Nebuchadnezzar

1002
00:46:09.680 --> 00:46:11.540
and all the different things that happened there.

1003
00:46:11.540 --> 00:46:13.480
But we forget that he was in relationship

1004
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:15.800
with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego.

1005
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:19.840
They were a micro church within Babylon, right?

1006
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:21.720
And they were all called there for a purpose.

1007
00:46:21.720 --> 00:46:25.420
They were all there to show these people

1008
00:46:25.420 --> 00:46:28.260
what it looked like to be sons of God.

1009
00:46:28.260 --> 00:46:29.820
And so we're doing life together.

1010
00:46:29.820 --> 00:46:32.180
My husband and I, yeah, we do have a spiritual community

1011
00:46:32.180 --> 00:46:33.100
that we hang out with.

1012
00:46:33.100 --> 00:46:34.780
We go to a church called Bethel Austin here,

1013
00:46:34.780 --> 00:46:37.000
love the pastors, they're good friends of ours.

1014
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:38.340
We're out of town a lot.

1015
00:46:38.340 --> 00:46:40.900
So if that was the only spiritual camaraderie

1016
00:46:40.900 --> 00:46:43.000
we were gonna get, we'd be in big trouble.

1017
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:47.720
But we have a vast community of spiritual entrepreneurs,

1018
00:46:47.720 --> 00:46:50.180
kingdom entrepreneurs that we do life with.

1019
00:46:50.180 --> 00:46:53.100
And any given time that we're at, they're praying for us,

1020
00:46:53.100 --> 00:46:54.940
we're praying for them, we're doing life together,

1021
00:46:55.700 --> 00:46:58.180
we just all went to Disneyland together with our families

1022
00:46:58.180 --> 00:47:00.740
and spent a week, like four or five days together,

1023
00:47:00.740 --> 00:47:03.580
just really like uplifting each other in the Lord.

1024
00:47:03.580 --> 00:47:08.180
And you guys, we can coast on the power of that gathering

1025
00:47:08.180 --> 00:47:11.060
for three or four months because it was so powerful.

1026
00:47:11.060 --> 00:47:13.420
We don't have quantity of time with them all the time,

1027
00:47:13.420 --> 00:47:15.060
but we have quality of time.

1028
00:47:15.060 --> 00:47:18.100
And so you have to understand that this is what

1029
00:47:18.100 --> 00:47:20.200
the Ekklesia looks like.

1030
00:47:21.060 --> 00:47:22.480
Now, if you have a local church

1031
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.800
that has an Ekklesia mindset, amazing.

1032
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:27.000
You're a blessed person.

1033
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:31.280
But a lot of people are going to Church Incorporated

1034
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:33.680
that is a small business that has turned into

1035
00:47:33.680 --> 00:47:37.400
maybe even a mega Fortune 500 business.

1036
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:40.000
And that's what it is, it's a business.

1037
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:44.100
And when we mix business with spiritual things,

1038
00:47:44.100 --> 00:47:45.480
people get hurt.

1039
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:48.580
And that is what has happened across the board everywhere.

1040
00:47:48.580 --> 00:47:51.560
And so God's doing a new thing, friends, He really is.

1041
00:47:51.560 --> 00:47:53.280
And there are a lot of people that are never gonna

1042
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:56.360
darken the door of Church Incorporated.

1043
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:58.440
They're not gonna darken the door of Church Incorporated,

1044
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.080
but they are going to come to a home group or a cell group

1045
00:48:01.080 --> 00:48:04.540
or some sort of club that you start for people

1046
00:48:04.540 --> 00:48:07.440
who are believers that like to play pickleball.

1047
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:08.760
And then you guys worship together

1048
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:09.920
and pray over one another.

1049
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:11.440
You break bread together.

1050
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:14.760
You continue in the teachings of the apostles.

1051
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:16.080
Go back to the book of Acts, friends.

1052
00:48:16.080 --> 00:48:17.280
We need to go back to study hall

1053
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:19.440
and see what the church really looks like.

1054
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.120
We're the church, okay?

1055
00:48:22.120 --> 00:48:23.960
And so for all of you that are single,

1056
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:26.640
if you have to have someone who is a church person

1057
00:48:26.640 --> 00:48:28.000
because you're a church person

1058
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:29.840
and that's a deal breaker for you, okay.

1059
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:31.160
I'm not gonna talk you out of that.

1060
00:48:31.160 --> 00:48:33.860
But what I am saying is that a lot of times people

1061
00:48:33.860 --> 00:48:36.880
will hide a lot of their dysfunction

1062
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:38.680
underneath their church membership.

1063
00:48:38.680 --> 00:48:40.240
And people will be blindsided

1064
00:48:40.240 --> 00:48:42.380
because this person goes to church and they serve

1065
00:48:42.380 --> 00:48:43.520
and they speak in tongues

1066
00:48:43.520 --> 00:48:45.480
and they raise their hands to worship.

1067
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.680
But they're just really a wolf in sheep's clothing

1068
00:48:47.680 --> 00:48:51.800
or a wolfette, a wolfette in sheep's clothing.

1069
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.920
So please friends, be careful with that

1070
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:57.840
because the fruit cannot be faked, but the gifts can.

1071
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:00.000
All right.

1072
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:00.840
Okay, now go ahead.

1073
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.560
You can say the rest of what you wanna say.

1074
00:49:03.560 --> 00:49:08.560
Yeah, I just, I have a hard time seeing us as a missional,

1075
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:10.520
like a couple on a mission,

1076
00:49:10.520 --> 00:49:13.920
like that we're working towards the same purpose.

1077
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:18.560
I see a lot of me making accommodations for him.

1078
00:49:19.680 --> 00:49:22.120
He has too much anxiety one time

1079
00:49:22.120 --> 00:49:24.920
or it's too far for him to drive to my house.

1080
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:26.760
My dog is too much for him.

1081
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:29.880
And so spending a lot of time going to his spaces.

1082
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:34.100
And we've talked about that, where that's my frustration.

1083
00:49:34.100 --> 00:49:39.100
But I desire someone who has ambition and motivation

1084
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:42.520
but that also means motivation and ambition

1085
00:49:42.520 --> 00:49:45.320
in our relationship to make us better.

1086
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.080
And I don't see him doing that.

1087
00:49:51.600 --> 00:49:54.400
He does it at a very, very in dribs and drabs.

1088
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:56.240
Like there is some movement,

1089
00:49:56.240 --> 00:49:59.240
but it takes a lot of courage.

1090
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.140
focusing to get that to happen.

1091
00:50:02.140 --> 00:50:06.520
And I don't know, I'm kind of at the point where I-

1092
00:50:06.520 --> 00:50:10.320
It sounds like he has a lot of unhealed trauma.

1093
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:11.920
You know, unhealed trauma will cause us

1094
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:13.280
to be procrastinators.

1095
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:16.020
It will cause us to not take accountability

1096
00:50:16.020 --> 00:50:18.440
for change in our lives because we just get stuck

1097
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:20.640
and we don't know what to do next.

1098
00:50:20.640 --> 00:50:22.920
So you're right, it's not your job to fix him.

1099
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.200
And if you have told him that these things bother you

1100
00:50:25.200 --> 00:50:28.440
and he has not changed them or tried to change them,

1101
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:30.160
you guys, that's the green flag.

1102
00:50:30.160 --> 00:50:31.480
We're not expecting perfect people,

1103
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:33.600
but we let people know, hey, you know,

1104
00:50:33.600 --> 00:50:36.740
I, this really bothers me, it troubles me.

1105
00:50:36.740 --> 00:50:38.560
I just, I don't want to be in relationship

1106
00:50:38.560 --> 00:50:42.400
where this is a dynamic and they don't acknowledge it

1107
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:45.360
and then work on changing it,

1108
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:47.800
then that yellow flag becomes red.

1109
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:50.800
And so we need to make sure that we understand that.

1110
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.560
Now, if you do decide to, you know,

1111
00:50:53.560 --> 00:50:54.800
let him go his own way,

1112
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:56.120
then make sure that you leave him better

1113
00:50:56.120 --> 00:50:59.120
than you found him, turn his sails to the wind.

1114
00:50:59.120 --> 00:51:02.560
You know, being broken up with is never fun

1115
00:51:02.560 --> 00:51:05.240
and it's not gonna be happy moment.

1116
00:51:05.240 --> 00:51:10.040
But, you know, if you do it right, quote unquote,

1117
00:51:10.040 --> 00:51:13.560
then he, you know, it won't just be another

1118
00:51:13.560 --> 00:51:16.000
disappointing rejection type of thing.

1119
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:18.060
And that's not on you, that's not your problem,

1120
00:51:18.060 --> 00:51:21.160
but just make sure that it's not,

1121
00:51:21.160 --> 00:51:25.080
it's not a whole list of, well, you know,

1122
00:51:25.080 --> 00:51:27.160
I want this and I want a man like that.

1123
00:51:27.160 --> 00:51:29.120
And, you know, I'm, you know,

1124
00:51:29.120 --> 00:51:30.920
basically I'm better than you.

1125
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:32.320
Let's just, let's make sure that

1126
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:33.680
that doesn't come off that way.

1127
00:51:33.680 --> 00:51:35.080
Okay.

1128
00:51:35.080 --> 00:51:37.040
But yeah, keep us posted.

1129
00:51:37.040 --> 00:51:37.860
It sounds like, you know,

1130
00:51:37.860 --> 00:51:39.360
what you want to do and what you need to do.

1131
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:41.120
And sometimes that's enough of a catalyst

1132
00:51:41.120 --> 00:51:42.920
for people to make change.

1133
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.720
I saw that happen with a recent breakup.

1134
00:51:45.720 --> 00:51:47.440
The breakup did happen.

1135
00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:50.160
And now, and a lot of times we'll think,

1136
00:51:50.160 --> 00:51:51.600
oh, well, they're just trying to win me back.

1137
00:51:51.600 --> 00:51:54.000
No, sometimes it's a catalyst

1138
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:58.760
because trauma actually brings trauma to the surface.

1139
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.320
And so when someone gets broken up with,

1140
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:01.880
especially if they're really falling in love

1141
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:02.720
with that person,

1142
00:52:02.720 --> 00:52:04.840
or they're really attaching to that person,

1143
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:07.600
then that trauma actually makes trauma come to the surface.

1144
00:52:07.600 --> 00:52:09.000
And some people will medicate it

1145
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:13.880
and some people will go after healing for it.

1146
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:17.880
So a trauma can actually cause it to be a catalyst

1147
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:19.720
for other trauma to get healed.

1148
00:52:19.720 --> 00:52:22.160
And so that happens too sometimes.

1149
00:52:22.160 --> 00:52:23.600
Rob is saying soft encouragement,

1150
00:52:24.160 --> 00:52:26.000
how we feel apt to engage with personal emotions

1151
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:28.800
other than angry and hungry throughout the day.

1152
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:31.200
That's fun.

1153
00:52:32.560 --> 00:52:33.760
Two feelings for men.

1154
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:34.960
I'm angry and I'm hungry.

1155
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:36.800
Is that what we're saying there, Rob?

1156
00:52:37.640 --> 00:52:38.480
I should say so.

1157
00:52:39.600 --> 00:52:40.440
Yeah.

1158
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:42.280
I think that there's a third thing that men feel

1159
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:43.760
that you're leaving out there.

1160
00:52:46.120 --> 00:52:46.960
Please tell.

1161
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:52.160
It begins with an H.

1162
00:52:52.160 --> 00:52:53.000
All right.

1163
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:55.320
So Joshua says,

1164
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:57.040
I'm burned out from churchianity.

1165
00:52:57.040 --> 00:52:58.400
Come on, bro.

1166
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.360
Used to serve my heart out for 10 years.

1167
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:01.600
Don't regret it though,

1168
00:53:01.600 --> 00:53:03.160
because I knew I did it.

1169
00:53:03.160 --> 00:53:04.320
And for whom?

1170
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:05.480
Time for a new season,

1171
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:06.720
but I don't know what to do,

1172
00:53:06.720 --> 00:53:08.720
especially since I'm still anchored

1173
00:53:08.720 --> 00:53:10.360
to the church in some ways.

1174
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:11.680
You guys, it's not...

1175
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:14.840
Can you bring my two cans over?

1176
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:16.400
Can you bring my two cans over?

1177
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:18.120
I know.

1178
00:53:18.120 --> 00:53:18.960
I know, babe.

1179
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:20.360
I'm live right now.

1180
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:21.200
I love you.

1181
00:53:21.200 --> 00:53:22.080
Thank you.

1182
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:25.080
You guys, see this little opal pendant?

1183
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:28.800
This is some jewelry that my mom's husband

1184
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:30.920
gave to me of hers when she passed away.

1185
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:34.960
And my husband accidentally sucked it up

1186
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:39.960
in a vacuum at a car wash today.

1187
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:44.360
And he went over there and had them

1188
00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:46.960
check all the filters and all the vacuums for it,

1189
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:47.840
and they found it.

1190
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:48.760
And here it is.

1191
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:51.560
Here it is, you guys.

1192
00:53:51.560 --> 00:53:53.160
That's a miracle.

1193
00:53:53.160 --> 00:53:54.560
That's a miracle that this was found.

1194
00:53:54.560 --> 00:53:56.480
Do you see how tiny it is?

1195
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:57.320
I mean, you can't,

1196
00:53:57.320 --> 00:53:58.440
I don't think you can even see how pretty it is.

1197
00:53:58.440 --> 00:53:59.680
It's a fire opal.

1198
00:53:59.680 --> 00:54:02.440
But, wow.

1199
00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:04.800
He just bought it.

1200
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:06.040
And he's crying, you guys.

1201
00:54:06.040 --> 00:54:08.040
He's crying over here.

1202
00:54:08.040 --> 00:54:08.880
Baba!

1203
00:54:10.720 --> 00:54:11.560
Miracle.

1204
00:54:11.560 --> 00:54:12.680
It is, it's a miracle.

1205
00:54:12.680 --> 00:54:13.520
God is so good.

1206
00:54:13.520 --> 00:54:15.640
We prayed, we asked God to return this.

1207
00:54:16.720 --> 00:54:19.520
We asked God to return this, you guys.

1208
00:54:19.520 --> 00:54:20.360
And he did.

1209
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:21.480
I'm so thankful.

1210
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:23.280
He just found it.

1211
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:24.120
He has brought it in.

1212
00:54:24.120 --> 00:54:25.800
Bring me my two cans, please.

1213
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:26.640
Okay.

1214
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:29.400
What Joshua said, you guys,

1215
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:30.800
just let's just stay here for a moment.

1216
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:32.840
This is so important because so many of you

1217
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:35.280
are wanting to marry church people, right?

1218
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:38.000
Because that's the paradigm that you've been living in,

1219
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:39.680
but God's shifting something.

1220
00:54:40.600 --> 00:54:43.560
Everything that can be shaken will be shaken.

1221
00:54:43.560 --> 00:54:45.200
Do you guys see how many scandals

1222
00:54:45.200 --> 00:54:47.920
are rocking the church world right now?

1223
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:50.440
The kingdom cannot be shaken, just so you know.

1224
00:54:51.600 --> 00:54:53.440
Whatever can be shaken will be shaken

1225
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:57.480
so that what cannot be shaken has room to remain

1226
00:54:57.480 --> 00:54:59.760
or grow or prosper or gain ground.

1227
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.080
As all of these man-made edifices,

1228
00:55:02.080 --> 00:55:04.400
all this church incorporated is shaking

1229
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:05.960
because we put men on pedestals

1230
00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:09.960
and then we're surprised when they fall off, right?

1231
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:11.360
My pastor went to prison, y'all.

1232
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:12.800
I got all the mugs and t-shirts.

1233
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:14.660
Don't tell me, I know.

1234
00:55:16.380 --> 00:55:18.320
I walked into the church that I served loyally

1235
00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:19.160
for 13 years.

1236
00:55:19.160 --> 00:55:20.840
I was there because it was Pentecostal

1237
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:22.460
three to four times a week.

1238
00:55:22.460 --> 00:55:25.600
Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night, Friday night.

1239
00:55:25.600 --> 00:55:27.680
These people love to have church friends.

1240
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:30.160
And they are the people that discipled me.

1241
00:55:30.160 --> 00:55:33.020
And I served in leadership during all of that,

1242
00:55:33.020 --> 00:55:35.600
through all my anxiety, through all my problems,

1243
00:55:35.600 --> 00:55:36.480
my agoraphobia.

1244
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:38.640
In fact, the only place I could go for a whole season

1245
00:55:38.640 --> 00:55:40.400
and leave my house was to church.

1246
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:42.600
I drove the church van for 10 years.

1247
00:55:42.600 --> 00:55:47.120
Guys, I put my blood, sweat, tears, prayers, intercession.

1248
00:55:47.120 --> 00:55:50.080
I also was there for women's prayer on Wednesday mornings.

1249
00:55:50.080 --> 00:55:53.560
I was there for youth service on Friday nights, everything.

1250
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:57.200
And then one day someone walked into the church

1251
00:55:57.720 --> 00:55:58.920
and just said, your pastor stole all the money.

1252
00:55:58.920 --> 00:55:59.920
He's going to prison.

1253
00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:02.840
And that day the church fell apart and closed down.

1254
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:04.640
And I had no church.

1255
00:56:04.640 --> 00:56:06.720
Overnight, the rug got pulled out from under us.

1256
00:56:06.720 --> 00:56:07.560
It was crazy.

1257
00:56:07.560 --> 00:56:08.520
And it got worse than that.

1258
00:56:08.520 --> 00:56:09.760
Way, way, way worse.

1259
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:11.080
I'm not gonna go into that.

1260
00:56:11.080 --> 00:56:14.400
But when you put people on pedestals, they fall down.

1261
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:15.680
They fall off pedestals.

1262
00:56:15.680 --> 00:56:18.240
When you give people inappropriate power

1263
00:56:18.240 --> 00:56:19.280
and control over you,

1264
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:20.880
just because they have the word pastor

1265
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:21.960
in front of their name,

1266
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:24.360
or evangelist, or prophet, or anything else,

1267
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:27.560
then it falls apart.

1268
00:56:27.560 --> 00:56:28.840
Boundaries are crossed.

1269
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:31.320
Hearts are broken.

1270
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:33.640
Disappointment comes, disillusionment comes.

1271
00:56:33.640 --> 00:56:38.560
And in worst case scenarios, even more crazy stuff happens.

1272
00:56:40.680 --> 00:56:42.440
Even more crazy stuff.

1273
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:44.680
And under the guise of being spiritually

1274
00:56:44.680 --> 00:56:46.600
and emotionally abused.

1275
00:56:46.600 --> 00:56:49.400
So Church Inc., and not all churches are like that,

1276
00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:50.360
but there's a lot of them

1277
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:53.960
where there is inappropriate control happening.

1278
00:56:55.120 --> 00:56:59.080
People are building something that's not eternal.

1279
00:57:00.200 --> 00:57:04.680
They're having church, but they are not the church.

1280
00:57:04.680 --> 00:57:08.200
Now you can tell, have you gone to a church for decades,

1281
00:57:08.200 --> 00:57:10.160
but your life has not improved?

1282
00:57:10.160 --> 00:57:11.960
You're not living John 10, 10.

1283
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:13.200
You're still dealing with shame.

1284
00:57:13.200 --> 00:57:14.920
You're still dealing with all kinds of the sin,

1285
00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:17.360
same shame cycle, right?

1286
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:18.360
You're not being fed.

1287
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:19.200
You feel empty.

1288
00:57:19.200 --> 00:57:20.040
You feel lost.

1289
00:57:20.640 --> 00:57:21.480
You feel confused.

1290
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:22.560
You're still broke.

1291
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:27.720
You still have the same old job that you don't like.

1292
00:57:27.720 --> 00:57:28.680
You still feel lonely.

1293
00:57:28.680 --> 00:57:29.720
You don't have community.

1294
00:57:29.720 --> 00:57:30.600
You don't have friends.

1295
00:57:30.600 --> 00:57:31.560
You go to your church,

1296
00:57:31.560 --> 00:57:33.240
and you feel like nobody even knows you there.

1297
00:57:33.240 --> 00:57:35.320
Friends, that's the Church Incorporated.

1298
00:57:37.560 --> 00:57:38.960
That's not the Ecclesia.

1299
00:57:40.080 --> 00:57:43.080
And so many people, like the guy that she's talking about,

1300
00:57:43.080 --> 00:57:44.400
they've been hurt by this.

1301
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:47.800
Churches that are super political,

1302
00:57:50.080 --> 00:57:51.240
super, super political.

1303
00:57:51.240 --> 00:57:52.400
They're nationalists.

1304
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:54.280
It's all about America.

1305
00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:55.920
You guys, we come from a kingdom,

1306
00:57:57.520 --> 00:57:59.320
and we're gonna return to that kingdom.

1307
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:00.960
That kingdom is invading earth through us.

1308
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:02.840
We are pilgrims, the Bible says.

1309
00:58:05.120 --> 00:58:06.520
Now, I love this country,

1310
00:58:06.520 --> 00:58:09.120
and I would prefer to live here than anywhere else,

1311
00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:14.120
but my allegiance is not to America.

1312
00:58:14.120 --> 00:58:15.960
My allegiance is to Jesus.

1313
00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:18.680
That's what the Ecclesia looks like.

1314
00:58:21.040 --> 00:58:23.040
And so, friends, it's important that we understand that,

1315
00:58:23.040 --> 00:58:24.440
and I wanna tell you something.

1316
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:25.600
I'm gonna prophesy this

1317
00:58:25.600 --> 00:58:28.120
because I'm a prophet to the single nation.

1318
00:58:28.120 --> 00:58:29.240
Things are shaken up,

1319
00:58:30.720 --> 00:58:34.520
and that's not a doomsday declaration

1320
00:58:34.520 --> 00:58:37.320
because my Bible tells me that things get shaken

1321
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:38.600
because they can be shaken

1322
00:58:38.600 --> 00:58:40.640
so that what cannot be shaken

1323
00:58:40.640 --> 00:58:43.720
has more room to explode on the scene.

1324
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:44.880
And so, I don't know about you,

1325
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:47.320
but that's an exciting thought to me,

1326
00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:52.960
that the kingdom would have room to explode on the scene

1327
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:54.680
and that people could actually meet

1328
00:58:54.680 --> 00:58:56.880
the king of that kingdom, Jesus.

1329
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:02.480
The church is keeping a lot of people from Jesus right now

1330
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:05.440
because of its hypocrisy and its prejudice

1331
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:09.280
and its racism and its sexism and its nationalism,

1332
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:12.240
all the isms that are going on in the church right now.

1333
00:59:13.120 --> 00:59:16.640
All the isms are schisms in the body of Christ,

1334
00:59:16.640 --> 00:59:18.720
and it's time for us to push past that.

1335
00:59:18.720 --> 00:59:21.560
And so, if you have a great church full of kingdom people

1336
00:59:21.560 --> 00:59:24.040
that are doing kingdom work and partnering together,

1337
00:59:24.040 --> 00:59:25.680
then bravo, that's amazing.

1338
00:59:25.680 --> 00:59:29.240
But remember, people don't care how much you know

1339
00:59:29.240 --> 00:59:30.880
until they know how much you care.

1340
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:31.840
And there's a lot of people

1341
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:34.120
that we have to win back to the Ecclesia

1342
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.240
because they are part of the church,

1343
00:59:37.240 --> 00:59:38.320
because we are the church,

1344
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:40.720
but they have been hurt by the false one.

1345
00:59:41.560 --> 00:59:43.080
And so, just let's keep that in mind.

1346
00:59:43.080 --> 00:59:44.600
Sorry, I didn't mean to go off on a tirade.

1347
00:59:44.600 --> 00:59:46.000
You guys, look at what I bought today.

1348
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:48.920
Oh my gosh, I can't wait to show you this.

1349
00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:50.920
They're finger puppets and they're toucans.

1350
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:52.680
One can't, but two can.

1351
00:59:52.680 --> 00:59:53.720
Look at how cute they are.

1352
00:59:53.720 --> 00:59:55.880
Someone knit these and made these.

1353
00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:58.360
And if you want one of these, let me know

1354
00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:00.920
because I'm gonna get with the lady that made these.

1355
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.620
He's and I'm going to have her make us some.

1356
01:00:02.620 --> 01:00:06.140
And if you want to get one, they're only $3 and you know,

1357
01:00:06.540 --> 01:00:07.660
we can mail them out.

1358
01:00:07.700 --> 01:00:08.340
Aren't they cute.

1359
01:00:09.220 --> 01:00:09.780
So cute.

1360
01:00:10.020 --> 01:00:10.380
All right.

1361
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:12.020
I don't think you can see how cute they are.

1362
01:00:12.060 --> 01:00:12.860
They're so detailed.

1363
01:00:12.860 --> 01:00:14.260
Look at its little feet right there.

1364
01:00:14.260 --> 01:00:14.940
Just so cute.

1365
01:00:15.060 --> 01:00:15.380
All right.

1366
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:19.260
All the guys are just like, Oh my gosh, Jackie, you're so corny.

1367
01:00:19.260 --> 01:00:19.820
I know.

1368
01:00:19.900 --> 01:00:22.760
I know I am, but all the ladies love it and that's all that matters.

1369
01:00:22.820 --> 01:00:23.180
Okay.

1370
01:00:23.820 --> 01:00:24.660
Quote of the day.

1371
01:00:24.660 --> 01:00:26.180
The fruit cannot be faked.

1372
01:00:26.340 --> 01:00:27.140
It's you're not can't.

1373
01:00:27.260 --> 01:00:27.620
Okay.

1374
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:30.240
So our sister is going to report back to us.

1375
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:33.440
I believe that Holy spirit is going to show her what she needs to do.

1376
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:40.000
And, um, and yeah, that's gonna, that's gonna be great.

1377
01:00:40.560 --> 01:00:40.960
Okay.

1378
01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:45.480
Um, Andrea, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna try to go

1379
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:46.720
faster with our love seats.

1380
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:48.320
So Andrea, you're in the love seat.

1381
01:00:49.560 --> 01:00:50.320
Thank you.

1382
01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:50.720
Okay.

1383
01:00:50.720 --> 01:00:56.840
So, um, so I met, um, I did the prophesy your year in January and had a word

1384
01:00:56.860 --> 01:01:01.700
that I would meet someone in April or March and that confirmed

1385
01:01:01.700 --> 01:01:02.860
what I'd already been feeling.

1386
01:01:02.860 --> 01:01:04.500
And so I was like, okay, this is awesome.

1387
01:01:04.500 --> 01:01:07.180
And you said, even if it's crazy, write it down.

1388
01:01:07.180 --> 01:01:09.940
So I wrote down what I saw, which was penguins and mountains.

1389
01:01:10.020 --> 01:01:12.340
And I was like, okay, so wrote that down.

1390
01:01:12.660 --> 01:01:17.460
I ended up, um, getting on upward met, um, uh, the guy that I'm dating now.

1391
01:01:17.500 --> 01:01:21.300
And on March 5th, we met there, we met like a week or two later.

1392
01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:27.000
Um, and he happened to buy a shirt for our date that had a little penguin on it.

1393
01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:29.360
And I was like, oh my gosh, that's so awesome.

1394
01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:32.240
And there was just lots of confirmations from that.

1395
01:01:32.240 --> 01:01:34.000
And things were going really, really good.

1396
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:36.240
Um, he was very intentional.

1397
01:01:36.300 --> 01:01:37.440
Um, he's a single dad.

1398
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:38.440
I'm a single mom.

1399
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:39.420
My daughter's 11.

1400
01:01:39.420 --> 01:01:40.520
His is 14.

1401
01:01:41.040 --> 01:01:42.440
We lived two hours away.

1402
01:01:42.680 --> 01:01:45.560
And so there was just this very, just very intentional.

1403
01:01:45.560 --> 01:01:46.880
I was like, wow, I'm being treated.

1404
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:49.480
I wasn't super attracted in the beginning, but I was like, he's so

1405
01:01:49.500 --> 01:01:53.660
intentional and he's like you said, the fruit, there was a lot of fruit, but

1406
01:01:53.660 --> 01:01:57.540
then I kept feeling like, what's the difference between a suddenly and love

1407
01:01:57.540 --> 01:02:01.380
bombing, like I've never been in that like love bombing, but so anyway, I just

1408
01:02:01.380 --> 01:02:06.220
kept in it and then something happened that, um, that really shook me up.

1409
01:02:06.220 --> 01:02:10.980
So, um, in the very beginning, he made a few comments about being kind of jealous

1410
01:02:11.020 --> 01:02:15.260
and it just made me feel kind of, and so finally I asked him, what does that

1411
01:02:15.260 --> 01:02:19.340
look like when you say you're, you can be jealous, how would I experience you?

1412
01:02:19.700 --> 01:02:20.820
When you were jealous.

1413
01:02:20.820 --> 01:02:22.540
And he's like, oh, great question.

1414
01:02:22.820 --> 01:02:24.860
I'm not like some psycho guy or anything.

1415
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:26.700
I probably would just keep it on the inside.

1416
01:02:26.700 --> 01:02:27.420
You'd never know.

1417
01:02:27.820 --> 01:02:29.020
And I was like, okay, okay.

1418
01:02:29.020 --> 01:02:33.340
And then about two months later, we'd been dating about three months.

1419
01:02:33.500 --> 01:02:40.840
Um, I was at his house and he ended up taking a call, um, with one of his like

1420
01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:42.940
friends, a woman, he's a therapist.

1421
01:02:42.940 --> 01:02:46.140
So there was that, I know he has this desire to like help people and love on

1422
01:02:46.140 --> 01:02:46.640
people.

1423
01:02:47.080 --> 01:02:51.160
And, um, he kind of, it just seemed like he was being secretive with it.

1424
01:02:51.160 --> 01:02:53.520
And so I asked him, I was like, who were you talking to?

1425
01:02:53.520 --> 01:02:57.320
It's like 11 o'clock at night, like, you know, and he, he told me it was

1426
01:02:57.320 --> 01:03:01.440
his friend and she was crying and, and I just felt like, that's kind of

1427
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:03.280
like, I drove down here to see you.

1428
01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:06.720
Like, we're getting ready to watch a movie and you chose to do that.

1429
01:03:06.720 --> 01:03:07.000
Yeah.

1430
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:10.240
It took five minutes, but it just felt really awkward.

1431
01:03:10.240 --> 01:03:13.800
And so when I asked him about it, he said, oh, you know, babe, are you jealous?

1432
01:03:13.820 --> 01:03:16.860
And I was like, no, I just think that was weird.

1433
01:03:16.860 --> 01:03:20.020
And, um, and then he goes, well, cause I don't have, like, I'm not

1434
01:03:20.020 --> 01:03:21.420
jealous and I don't have that.

1435
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:22.460
And I was like, what do you mean?

1436
01:03:22.460 --> 01:03:23.220
You don't have that?

1437
01:03:23.220 --> 01:03:25.660
Like, I really, it really bothered me.

1438
01:03:25.660 --> 01:03:27.000
I'm like, am I triggered right now?

1439
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.420
Or is this like really something's wrong with this?

1440
01:03:29.460 --> 01:03:33.540
And, um, so anyway, I asked him about it and he didn't admit it in the moment.

1441
01:03:34.020 --> 01:03:38.140
But ever since then I've had, um, I've just had this, like, I don't want to

1442
01:03:38.140 --> 01:03:40.780
open my heart back to him because I feel like I can't trust them.

1443
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:44.840
And about a week ago, we finally talked for like the third time

1444
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:46.480
because he asked me what was going on.

1445
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:48.520
And I said, I just feel like I can't get past it.

1446
01:03:48.520 --> 01:03:50.240
I, I don't know how they both can be true.

1447
01:03:50.240 --> 01:03:51.640
How can you be kind of jealous?

1448
01:03:51.720 --> 01:03:53.400
And then you're not jealous at all.

1449
01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:59.720
So my question is, is it seems like a red flag, but I wasn't sure if what

1450
01:03:59.720 --> 01:04:01.080
your coaching would be around that.

1451
01:04:01.680 --> 01:04:02.920
That was one of my questions.

1452
01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:07.760
Well, let me ask you what, what do you think is the red flag in the story

1453
01:04:08.120 --> 01:04:09.840
that he's not jealous?

1454
01:04:10.420 --> 01:04:11.820
Yeah, that he said he was jealous.

1455
01:04:11.820 --> 01:04:15.860
And then when it came time, when I asked him about something he did, he asked me

1456
01:04:15.860 --> 01:04:19.380
if I was jealous and told me he didn't have jealousy, he didn't, that wasn't.

1457
01:04:19.780 --> 01:04:22.420
And he doesn't remember saying that to me ever.

1458
01:04:24.620 --> 01:04:25.100
Okay.

1459
01:04:25.620 --> 01:04:30.420
So do you think, do you think the red flag is him not remember saying it or

1460
01:04:30.420 --> 01:04:33.020
him just saying that, you know, why are you jealous?

1461
01:04:33.020 --> 01:04:35.140
Like, I don't get jealous, which thing?

1462
01:04:35.140 --> 01:04:35.340
Yeah.

1463
01:04:35.340 --> 01:04:39.580
I, I think that it felt like we had three conversations.

1464
01:04:39.580 --> 01:04:42.160
Like he, we brought up the whole jealousy thing three different

1465
01:04:42.160 --> 01:04:44.520
times, like on dates, like, Oh, here's an example, Andrea.

1466
01:04:44.520 --> 01:04:48.580
This is, this is how my jealousy shows up even in friendships.

1467
01:04:48.640 --> 01:04:49.560
Oh, okay, cool.

1468
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:53.400
But he acted like he didn't remember any of the conversations and that

1469
01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:54.840
made me feel really uncomfortable.

1470
01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:56.520
Like, how can you not remember?

1471
01:04:57.120 --> 01:04:57.600
I'm sorry.

1472
01:04:57.600 --> 01:04:58.680
I just have to have clarity.

1473
01:04:58.680 --> 01:05:00.000
So you're saying that he told.

1474
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.600
told you in other previous conversations that he was jealous.

1475
01:05:03.600 --> 01:05:06.640
And then in this situation, he said that he doesn't get jealous.

1476
01:05:07.120 --> 01:05:07.620
Yes.

1477
01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:09.240
Okay.

1478
01:05:09.680 --> 01:05:09.920
All right.

1479
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:14.560
First of all, let's just go back to 11 o'clock at night, talking to a girl.

1480
01:05:14.560 --> 01:05:17.400
That's a friend on the phone when you're in town.

1481
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:20.640
Um, I think that if he was hiding something, you probably wouldn't have

1482
01:05:20.640 --> 01:05:22.200
answered the phone while you're there.

1483
01:05:22.240 --> 01:05:27.040
Secondly, um, people that are therapists, counselors, coaches, a lot

1484
01:05:27.040 --> 01:05:28.720
of times they have bad boundaries.

1485
01:05:29.680 --> 01:05:32.480
Um, people that are people that are in those professions.

1486
01:05:32.520 --> 01:05:36.720
And I say this because of my own self, we have to really learn boundaries,

1487
01:05:36.720 --> 01:05:38.320
people that love to help people.

1488
01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:39.520
They want to help people.

1489
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:42.520
A lot of times they draw people.

1490
01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:45.280
They attract people that have a lot of problems.

1491
01:05:45.680 --> 01:05:49.600
And then if you don't have boundaries, you're talking to people at 11 or 12

1492
01:05:49.600 --> 01:05:52.480
o'clock at three o'clock in the morning, you're going out to rescue someone.

1493
01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:53.600
That kind of stuff's happening.

1494
01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:58.240
So that's kind of what I saw there of him, just not having good boundaries.

1495
01:05:58.600 --> 01:06:02.480
Um, you know, with this person, um, and you know, it's a woman,

1496
01:06:02.680 --> 01:06:04.400
you know, I coach men and women.

1497
01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:06.320
So I'm talking to men all day long.

1498
01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:11.440
If my husband was jealous, um, really friends jealous, isn't a thing.

1499
01:06:12.040 --> 01:06:14.040
It's, it's a by-product of fear.

1500
01:06:14.520 --> 01:06:17.880
And that specific type of fear comes from a lack of trust.

1501
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:20.120
And so that can be a lot of different things.

1502
01:06:20.120 --> 01:06:24.600
So a lack of trust for that person, because they're not trustworthy or a lack

1503
01:06:24.600 --> 01:06:28.480
of trust for that type of person, whether it's a man, whether it's a woman,

1504
01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:31.560
just in general, because you haven't forgiven other people that have betrayed

1505
01:06:31.560 --> 01:06:33.160
you that are men or women.

1506
01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:37.400
And so it's important that you understand that now, if I had a husband who was not

1507
01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:42.360
a securely attached person who didn't trust me and you know, who I haven't

1508
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:46.640
proven myself to be trustworthy over the last 17 years, um, then I probably

1509
01:06:46.640 --> 01:06:49.200
wouldn't be able to fulfill the calling on my life.

1510
01:06:50.040 --> 01:06:51.960
Now, do I have good boundaries?

1511
01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:53.760
Have I learned how to have good boundaries?

1512
01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:54.240
Yes.

1513
01:06:54.920 --> 01:07:01.160
Um, with, you know, with coaching clients that are men, you know, um, yes, I, I

1514
01:07:01.160 --> 01:07:04.280
have, I have learned how to have good boundaries and we've, I've never had any

1515
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:09.960
situation where I've even had a coaching client who tried to talk to me in any

1516
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:15.880
kind of inappropriate way, because I don't give off the vibe that you can.

1517
01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:20.480
So the bottom line is, is I don't give off the vibe that you can, like I have a

1518
01:07:20.520 --> 01:07:26.120
big, you know, you know, you know what I have written across my forehead, if

1519
01:07:26.120 --> 01:07:27.560
someone would even start that.

1520
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:28.360
Okay.

1521
01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:31.120
And so that's important to have that kind of posturing and

1522
01:07:31.120 --> 01:07:33.360
those kinds of boundaries up.

1523
01:07:33.640 --> 01:07:39.800
So the other thing is, is that in the moment, um, with you kind of calling him

1524
01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:43.720
on the carpet, you know, people do say things in the moment when, when there's

1525
01:07:44.120 --> 01:07:48.320
a lot of tension and different things happening, um, he may have just said that

1526
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:50.160
to try to diffuse the situation.

1527
01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:53.680
And also he may have said that out of kind of the fight or flight

1528
01:07:53.680 --> 01:07:55.160
fawn or freeze response.

1529
01:07:55.560 --> 01:07:59.200
And a lot of times when we say something out of the fawn or freeze response, we

1530
01:07:59.200 --> 01:08:03.000
actually won't remember what we said, because we're like in a, we're like in a

1531
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:06.600
state of panic almost, you know, like, Oh, I made this person upset.

1532
01:08:06.640 --> 01:08:08.640
So it's just like, Oh, you know, don't get mad.

1533
01:08:08.640 --> 01:08:09.680
Everything's okay.

1534
01:08:10.040 --> 01:08:14.760
Um, so it's possibly that, um, do you think that he displays a lot of jealousy

1535
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:18.560
towards you and wanting you not to wanting you to have good boundaries

1536
01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:21.359
with males, with other men?

1537
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:24.319
I mean, I'm a, I'm a hairdresser, so I I'm close with men and

1538
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:25.800
women because of what I do too.

1539
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:27.279
So I don't think that.

1540
01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:29.160
I don't think that he really does.

1541
01:08:29.160 --> 01:08:30.120
There were just a few things.

1542
01:08:30.120 --> 01:08:33.720
Like I went to the pool with my daughter and he's like, Oh, any cute guys there.

1543
01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:37.880
And, and, you know, like he just would make little comments and he would laugh

1544
01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:40.279
about it, but I'm like, it just, I don't know.

1545
01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:43.399
I just didn't like it, but I didn't think it was a deal breaker because he didn't

1546
01:08:43.399 --> 01:08:46.640
show any like signs of, of a big thing.

1547
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:50.439
But the, so the other thing was with the marriage thing, he was

1548
01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:51.880
bringing up marriage right away.

1549
01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:53.080
Like, I'm going to marry you.

1550
01:08:53.080 --> 01:08:54.880
Like, I mean, obviously you'd have to marry me.

1551
01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:56.560
And I'm like, we just met like a month ago.

1552
01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:58.200
Like it's like, okay.

1553
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:03.880
And then finally one night I was just like, I've been engaged five times, never married.

1554
01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:07.880
And so like, first of all, I just met second of all, like engagements

1555
01:09:07.880 --> 01:09:10.760
have always gone bad up until now.

1556
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:14.279
And so I just, I said it sarcastically, which I apologize for it, but I was like,

1557
01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:16.600
can we just like not talk about marriage for a day?

1558
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:21.080
Like, we just kind of met like, like I really care about you and yeah, I

1559
01:09:21.080 --> 01:09:24.040
could see potential future, but that's like a, that's a lot.

1560
01:09:24.040 --> 01:09:27.800
And then after that, he just kind of, he did stop talking about it, but

1561
01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:30.040
he also started focusing on work.

1562
01:09:30.040 --> 01:09:31.479
And I asked him about that.

1563
01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:35.560
I said, you, I said what you had told me in the beginning that you treat me

1564
01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:37.240
differently than you've treated anybody else.

1565
01:09:37.240 --> 01:09:38.279
And it's on purpose.

1566
01:09:38.279 --> 01:09:39.319
You're a new person.

1567
01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:40.279
You've grown a lot.

1568
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:42.680
You've healed a lot from your divorce and all of these things.

1569
01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:46.359
How, how long distance you guys are long distance?

1570
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:47.000
Two hours.

1571
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:48.279
Okay.

1572
01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:49.560
And how often do you see each other?

1573
01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:52.680
Just about once a week, maybe twice a week.

1574
01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:53.960
Okay.

1575
01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:55.720
And how long have you been seeing each other?

1576
01:09:56.360 --> 01:09:57.080
Since March.

1577
01:09:58.120 --> 01:09:58.600
Okay.

1578
01:09:58.600 --> 01:09:59.800
And is this the only thing?

1579
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:01.700
that's happened that bothers you?

1580
01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:06.440
No, the other thing was just,

1581
01:10:06.440 --> 01:10:07.940
he wasn't respecting my boundaries

1582
01:10:07.940 --> 01:10:10.800
about like kissing and things like that.

1583
01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:15.400
Okay, when did that start, not respecting your boundaries?

1584
01:10:15.400 --> 01:10:16.600
Oh, pretty early on.

1585
01:10:18.320 --> 01:10:23.320
Okay, and did you tell him how that made you feel?

1586
01:10:24.100 --> 01:10:29.100
Yeah, and it's better now, but like, yeah, it's better now.

1587
01:10:29.220 --> 01:10:32.220
But then he says it, yeah, it's better now,

1588
01:10:32.220 --> 01:10:34.740
but once you've kissed somebody and had, you know,

1589
01:10:34.740 --> 01:10:36.620
intimacy, like kissing and stuff,

1590
01:10:36.620 --> 01:10:39.500
then you take that away and then it just feels,

1591
01:10:39.500 --> 01:10:41.900
like, I don't know if that was my fault.

1592
01:10:41.900 --> 01:10:44.740
Obviously, I didn't wanna do that, so I did, yeah.

1593
01:10:45.620 --> 01:10:47.280
So what do you like about him?

1594
01:10:48.700 --> 01:10:50.580
I like that he's a good dad.

1595
01:10:50.580 --> 01:10:52.580
And I've heard one of your calls, you're like,

1596
01:10:52.580 --> 01:10:55.520
don't, you didn't maybe exactly say don't be a brat,

1597
01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:58.180
but you're like, give the single dad the break.

1598
01:10:58.180 --> 01:10:59.180
Like, they're doing a lot.

1599
01:10:59.180 --> 01:11:00.740
And he has her 50% of the time.

1600
01:11:00.740 --> 01:11:04.980
I love that he loves people well, and I love that.

1601
01:11:04.980 --> 01:11:07.460
And then there's also times where I'm like,

1602
01:11:07.460 --> 01:11:08.940
am I being a total brat here?

1603
01:11:08.940 --> 01:11:12.340
Because there's so many times when I'm in his town

1604
01:11:12.340 --> 01:11:15.020
where we go out and he interrupts our conversation

1605
01:11:15.020 --> 01:11:18.420
to talk to people, because he, I guess he's been like,

1606
01:11:18.420 --> 01:11:21.580
in the magazines there and stuff for being, you know,

1607
01:11:21.580 --> 01:11:22.900
whatever, he's been there.

1608
01:11:22.900 --> 01:11:25.540
And I, like on one hand, I think that's amazing,

1609
01:11:25.540 --> 01:11:26.380
but on the other hand-

1610
01:11:27.140 --> 01:11:28.820
Are you telling me that when you're out and about

1611
01:11:28.820 --> 01:11:30.940
in his town, people recognize him and come up

1612
01:11:30.940 --> 01:11:32.380
and want to talk to him?

1613
01:11:32.380 --> 01:11:33.540
Yes, and vice versa.

1614
01:11:33.540 --> 01:11:36.940
Or he'll go up and see people and start talking, yeah.

1615
01:11:36.940 --> 01:11:38.500
Every single time?

1616
01:11:38.500 --> 01:11:39.580
Yes.

1617
01:11:39.580 --> 01:11:40.940
Okay.

1618
01:11:40.940 --> 01:11:41.780
All right.

1619
01:11:41.780 --> 01:11:44.500
And you guys only see each other once or twice a week?

1620
01:11:44.500 --> 01:11:45.580
Yes.

1621
01:11:45.580 --> 01:11:46.540
Okay.

1622
01:11:46.540 --> 01:11:47.380
All right.

1623
01:11:47.380 --> 01:11:48.580
So good dad, loves people well.

1624
01:11:48.580 --> 01:11:50.180
What else do you like about him?

1625
01:11:52.860 --> 01:11:55.100
I love, like he takes care.

1626
01:11:55.100 --> 01:11:58.260
I love seeing how he, like little kids love him,

1627
01:11:58.260 --> 01:11:59.100
run up to him.

1628
01:11:59.100 --> 01:12:01.860
And one of his businesses deals with kids.

1629
01:12:01.860 --> 01:12:05.940
And I just love seeing, it can be hard to love kids.

1630
01:12:05.940 --> 01:12:08.060
And just seeing the connection there.

1631
01:12:08.060 --> 01:12:09.460
He's really sweet to my daughter.

1632
01:12:09.460 --> 01:12:11.660
My daughter really loves him.

1633
01:12:11.660 --> 01:12:12.860
She's like, he's so kind.

1634
01:12:12.860 --> 01:12:15.780
And, but she even said, is everything okay?

1635
01:12:15.780 --> 01:12:18.380
Like a few weeks ago, she goes, he's still kind and nice,

1636
01:12:18.380 --> 01:12:20.260
but something's just different, mom.

1637
01:12:20.260 --> 01:12:22.780
And I was like, okay, you're 11,

1638
01:12:22.780 --> 01:12:24.420
for her to say something different.

1639
01:12:24.420 --> 01:12:27.220
And she couldn't put her finger on it either.

1640
01:12:27.220 --> 01:12:28.580
Yeah, but has she heard you,

1641
01:12:28.580 --> 01:12:30.660
has she heard you questioning the relationship

1642
01:12:30.660 --> 01:12:32.820
with anyone on the phone?

1643
01:12:32.820 --> 01:12:36.820
She, if she was listening when my door was closed possibly,

1644
01:12:36.820 --> 01:12:39.300
but not like in front of her, in front of her.

1645
01:12:39.300 --> 01:12:40.740
So there could have been that.

1646
01:12:40.740 --> 01:12:43.580
Our kids hear a lot more than we think they do.

1647
01:12:43.580 --> 01:12:45.780
And there's been plenty of times where my daughter

1648
01:12:45.780 --> 01:12:49.180
has competed complete, has repeated back to me,

1649
01:12:49.180 --> 01:12:51.700
kind of my own mindsets about different people

1650
01:12:51.700 --> 01:12:52.540
and different things

1651
01:12:52.540 --> 01:12:55.900
because she heard me saying something about it.

1652
01:12:55.900 --> 01:12:58.260
And so that's why we have to be careful with that.

1653
01:12:58.260 --> 01:13:00.140
Right, so here's what I want to say about this.

1654
01:13:00.140 --> 01:13:03.780
Okay, so, you know, you've been engaged five times,

1655
01:13:03.780 --> 01:13:05.100
you've never made it to the altar.

1656
01:13:05.100 --> 01:13:07.700
So you got it, you got a heart wound there, okay?

1657
01:13:08.540 --> 01:13:10.700
Right, when things start getting serious,

1658
01:13:10.700 --> 01:13:13.460
then things, the cracks start showing up in the foundation,

1659
01:13:13.460 --> 01:13:15.620
you start seeing them and you know,

1660
01:13:15.620 --> 01:13:17.700
and then, and then things fall apart.

1661
01:13:17.700 --> 01:13:20.300
Okay, so you've never paid it past that watermark.

1662
01:13:20.300 --> 01:13:22.540
This guy was wanting to get you to that watermark

1663
01:13:22.540 --> 01:13:26.420
really quickly, so he's poking your wound, number one.

1664
01:13:26.420 --> 01:13:28.660
Okay, nothing that you said to me

1665
01:13:28.660 --> 01:13:31.780
is a red flag in and of itself.

1666
01:13:31.780 --> 01:13:34.460
But remember, yellow flags turn red

1667
01:13:34.460 --> 01:13:37.100
when we talk to people about their behavior

1668
01:13:37.100 --> 01:13:41.940
and they either blow it off, dismiss it, justify it

1669
01:13:41.940 --> 01:13:44.980
and don't change it, right?

1670
01:13:44.980 --> 01:13:47.220
And again, if we're being irrational, we're being crazy

1671
01:13:47.220 --> 01:13:49.540
and we're demanding things that don't, you know,

1672
01:13:49.540 --> 01:13:53.020
that aren't things that people should do, that's one story.

1673
01:13:53.020 --> 01:13:55.700
But you only see this guy one to two times a week

1674
01:13:55.700 --> 01:13:58.380
and when you're going out and you could be exaggerating,

1675
01:13:58.380 --> 01:14:00.300
so you have to hold yourself accountable here

1676
01:14:00.300 --> 01:14:02.620
because I can only coach you on what you're telling me.

1677
01:14:02.620 --> 01:14:05.660
But if he is like spending time talking to other people

1678
01:14:05.660 --> 01:14:07.620
and making the rounds and shaking the hands

1679
01:14:07.620 --> 01:14:09.340
and kissing the babies, you know,

1680
01:14:09.340 --> 01:14:11.540
that's because that's where he gets his significance

1681
01:14:11.540 --> 01:14:13.540
and he wants to be the star of the show

1682
01:14:13.540 --> 01:14:14.700
and the center of attention

1683
01:14:14.700 --> 01:14:17.220
and that's gonna be a problem, all right?

1684
01:14:17.220 --> 01:14:18.540
Yeah, he admitted that.

1685
01:14:18.540 --> 01:14:20.940
I mean, he actually admitted that to me

1686
01:14:20.940 --> 01:14:23.140
and he also said it's good business

1687
01:14:23.140 --> 01:14:24.980
because you know, if you're being nice to people

1688
01:14:24.980 --> 01:14:26.140
and you have businesses

1689
01:14:26.140 --> 01:14:28.020
and you need people to come into your businesses.

1690
01:14:28.020 --> 01:14:29.220
So anyway, but yeah.

1691
01:14:29.220 --> 01:14:30.300
Yeah, but he's not,

1692
01:14:30.300 --> 01:14:32.340
but he only sees you once to twice a week

1693
01:14:32.340 --> 01:14:33.900
and if he wants to court you,

1694
01:14:33.900 --> 01:14:35.300
then you need to be the person

1695
01:14:35.300 --> 01:14:36.900
that he's paying attention to.

1696
01:14:36.900 --> 01:14:39.300
And he's gonna have to learn how to have good boundaries

1697
01:14:39.300 --> 01:14:40.860
because the only thing worse

1698
01:14:40.860 --> 01:14:42.940
than being married to a woman with no boundaries

1699
01:14:42.940 --> 01:14:45.780
is being married to a man with no boundaries.

1700
01:14:45.820 --> 01:14:47.900
And you're like, why is it worse for a man?

1701
01:14:47.900 --> 01:14:51.020
Because men usually have better boundaries than women.

1702
01:14:51.020 --> 01:14:53.220
And if you're with a man that doesn't have good boundaries

1703
01:14:53.220 --> 01:14:55.460
and it's like, oh, that's weird, all right?

1704
01:14:55.460 --> 01:14:58.220
Because men usually have no problem telling people no.

1705
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.200
And so you definitely want to have a conversation about this.

1706
01:15:03.200 --> 01:15:06.760
Like, Hey, you know, um, I've got to come first.

1707
01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:09.440
And the way that I feel about things has to be important.

1708
01:15:10.020 --> 01:15:13.700
Um, you know, he's gonna have to have good boundaries, especially as a therapist,

1709
01:15:13.700 --> 01:15:17.720
especially as a coach of some sort, because he can't just be talking to people

1710
01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:20.100
at 11 o'clock at night, business hours.

1711
01:15:20.200 --> 01:15:20.740
Okay.

1712
01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:24.660
And he can't be spending all of his time, juking and jiving and kissing babies and

1713
01:15:24.660 --> 01:15:31.140
shaking hands when you know, you, you need him to be focused on you or the family.

1714
01:15:31.660 --> 01:15:33.940
And so that is what I would tell you to do.

1715
01:15:34.220 --> 01:15:35.940
Um, I put it before Holy spirit.

1716
01:15:36.220 --> 01:15:39.500
I definitely would tell him how you feel about these things.

1717
01:15:39.540 --> 01:15:40.900
Ask him for change.

1718
01:15:40.900 --> 01:15:43.140
And then if you don't see it, I guess you'll have your answer.

1719
01:15:44.140 --> 01:15:44.700
Thank you.

1720
01:15:45.700 --> 01:15:46.420
You're welcome.

1721
01:15:47.340 --> 01:15:47.740
All right.

1722
01:15:48.340 --> 01:15:50.820
Julie K you're in the love seat.

1723
01:15:51.900 --> 01:15:52.340
Hi.

1724
01:15:53.300 --> 01:15:53.580
Yeah.

1725
01:15:53.660 --> 01:16:01.420
Um, so, uh, I, I went on a, uh, this weekend on a third date with someone

1726
01:16:01.420 --> 01:16:07.540
I've been talking to since, um, middle of may, um, like I posted about it in the

1727
01:16:07.540 --> 01:16:09.180
group, it was like an ax throwing date.

1728
01:16:09.260 --> 01:16:16.540
Um, and, um, I'm attracted to him, but I don't, I think I have relationship

1729
01:16:16.540 --> 01:16:21.260
anxiety and I just, I don't know if he likes me.

1730
01:16:22.220 --> 01:16:24.700
Um, I don't know.

1731
01:16:24.700 --> 01:16:28.900
I just don't see him like cherishing me.

1732
01:16:28.900 --> 01:16:30.100
Like I want to be cherished.

1733
01:16:30.140 --> 01:16:31.500
Um, okay.

1734
01:16:31.620 --> 01:16:36.540
How many dates have you been on three, three dates.

1735
01:16:36.780 --> 01:16:37.300
Okay.

1736
01:16:37.340 --> 01:16:40.620
And after the last date, what happened?

1737
01:16:40.620 --> 01:16:41.980
Did he ask you to go out again?

1738
01:16:43.860 --> 01:16:50.740
Um, yeah, he, he does, but he's, he's kind of, uh, he, he makes it known that

1739
01:16:50.740 --> 01:16:52.700
he wants to go out again, but he waits.

1740
01:16:53.420 --> 01:16:57.340
He does wait like until two days before to plan it.

1741
01:16:58.420 --> 01:16:58.820
Okay.

1742
01:16:59.100 --> 01:17:03.980
So I guess my, my biggest, my biggest flag here is you actually use the word

1743
01:17:03.980 --> 01:17:09.220
cherish for someone you've been on three dates with, so no one's getting

1744
01:17:09.220 --> 01:17:10.740
cherished in three dates, y'all.

1745
01:17:11.220 --> 01:17:12.420
No one's cherished.

1746
01:17:12.460 --> 01:17:12.900
Okay.

1747
01:17:13.020 --> 01:17:16.620
Love y'all, but you're not getting cherished in three dates.

1748
01:17:16.660 --> 01:17:17.260
Okay.

1749
01:17:18.140 --> 01:17:21.460
And, and, and listen, that, that hits home for me because that's a prayer

1750
01:17:21.460 --> 01:17:23.060
that I used to pray in my first marriage.

1751
01:17:23.100 --> 01:17:25.700
I was very verbally, emotionally, and spiritually abused.

1752
01:17:25.700 --> 01:17:27.780
And my first marriage was bullied.

1753
01:17:28.180 --> 01:17:33.060
You know, I was just basically left to die, left to drown and die, um, with

1754
01:17:33.060 --> 01:17:36.860
mental health issues and physical health issues, and I used to cry out to the

1755
01:17:36.860 --> 01:17:42.380
Lord and say, I just need you to, to, to send me someone people, not just a love

1756
01:17:42.380 --> 01:17:47.580
interest, but people that will care about me, that will cherish me.

1757
01:17:47.620 --> 01:17:49.100
Like I want to be cherished.

1758
01:17:49.100 --> 01:17:51.940
I want to be valued by someone.

1759
01:17:51.940 --> 01:17:54.660
And you cherish something that's very valuable, right?

1760
01:17:54.940 --> 01:17:57.180
That you've come to recognize is very valuable.

1761
01:17:57.380 --> 01:17:58.500
And so that hits home with me.

1762
01:17:58.500 --> 01:18:02.260
I understand you want to be cherished, but no one's going to cherish you.

1763
01:18:03.180 --> 01:18:04.820
Cherish is something that has to grow.

1764
01:18:06.660 --> 01:18:07.020
All right.

1765
01:18:07.100 --> 01:18:08.660
It's not going to happen in three days.

1766
01:18:08.940 --> 01:18:11.100
Now respect, respect.

1767
01:18:11.100 --> 01:18:12.340
You can happen in three days.

1768
01:18:12.340 --> 01:18:13.420
Respect your time.

1769
01:18:13.940 --> 01:18:15.460
Respect your boundaries.

1770
01:18:15.500 --> 01:18:16.300
That can happen.

1771
01:18:17.940 --> 01:18:18.220
Okay.

1772
01:18:19.220 --> 01:18:19.700
In three days.

1773
01:18:19.740 --> 01:18:20.020
Okay.

1774
01:18:20.020 --> 01:18:20.340
Yeah.

1775
01:18:20.340 --> 01:18:26.860
I think, um, it's partially maybe like I'm comparing to an X, which was like

1776
01:18:26.860 --> 01:18:32.060
four years ago that I think probably fell under love bombing.

1777
01:18:32.220 --> 01:18:37.460
So I, I think I'm like comparing to that and I'm like, I just don't feel it here.

1778
01:18:37.500 --> 01:18:40.540
Um, but, um, besides that,

1779
01:18:41.100 --> 01:18:43.060
your ex, your ex love bombed you.

1780
01:18:44.220 --> 01:18:45.380
Yeah, I would say so.

1781
01:18:45.460 --> 01:18:45.780
Yeah.

1782
01:18:46.420 --> 01:18:48.100
And you guys, let's just face it.

1783
01:18:48.500 --> 01:18:49.500
Let's just be honest.

1784
01:18:49.500 --> 01:18:49.900
Everyone.

1785
01:18:49.900 --> 01:18:50.580
Let's be honest.

1786
01:18:51.300 --> 01:18:58.060
Love bombing feels so good when you've been like a dry desert lands

1787
01:18:58.060 --> 01:19:02.780
and no one has been noticing you being love bomb feels so great.

1788
01:19:03.340 --> 01:19:03.980
It does.

1789
01:19:03.980 --> 01:19:05.620
It feels like, oh, you're so beautiful.

1790
01:19:05.660 --> 01:19:07.220
Oh, I can't stop thinking about you.

1791
01:19:07.300 --> 01:19:08.420
Oh, I can't wait to see you.

1792
01:19:08.820 --> 01:19:10.220
Oh, I think I'm falling in love with you.

1793
01:19:10.220 --> 01:19:13.620
You're like, yeah, but you guys, it's not real.

1794
01:19:14.140 --> 01:19:15.180
It's not real.

1795
01:19:15.180 --> 01:19:16.580
And it's not sustainable.

1796
01:19:18.140 --> 01:19:18.420
Right.

1797
01:19:18.420 --> 01:19:21.340
Christina says it feels good until it doesn't exactly.

1798
01:19:21.340 --> 01:19:24.700
Cause it always is connected to someone who's super unhealthy.

1799
01:19:26.620 --> 01:19:27.060
Yeah.

1800
01:19:27.220 --> 01:19:27.660
Yep.

1801
01:19:27.980 --> 01:19:29.100
Found that out the hard way.

1802
01:19:29.180 --> 01:19:33.780
Um, yeah, so just cause he's not a planner and it takes him, you know,

1803
01:19:33.780 --> 01:19:34.740
he's being intentional.

1804
01:19:34.740 --> 01:19:36.380
He's letting you know, he's had a good time.

1805
01:19:36.380 --> 01:19:40.820
He wants to be with you more, you know, just, you know, get, give the guy a

1806
01:19:40.820 --> 01:19:44.180
break, let him, let him build up to it.

1807
01:19:44.660 --> 01:19:46.740
You know, you don't want, this is what you want.

1808
01:19:46.740 --> 01:19:51.220
You want to study Eddie, someone who's continuing to, you know, be consistent,

1809
01:19:51.220 --> 01:19:54.940
even if he's not such a great planner and waste the last minute, two days before

1810
01:19:55.100 --> 01:19:58.020
y'all two days for, before, for me is early.

1811
01:19:58.260 --> 01:19:58.780
Okay.

1812
01:19:58.860 --> 01:19:59.980
I don't know what I'm doing.

1813
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:01.880
five minutes before a lot of times.

1814
01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:04.800
So it's personalities, different strokes for different folks,

1815
01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:09.000
but give them a chance to really fall in love with you.

1816
01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:10.960
And then let's see how he acts.

1817
01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:11.800
Mm-hmm.

1818
01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:12.960
Okay.

1819
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:15.760
So, so some things that concern me on the date.

1820
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:21.280
So there was a woman who was dressed very provocatively,

1821
01:20:21.280 --> 01:20:23.120
like sitting outside.

1822
01:20:23.120 --> 01:20:24.940
Yeah, like very provocatively.

1823
01:20:24.940 --> 01:20:28.440
And she was taking selfies of herself

1824
01:20:28.480 --> 01:20:30.880
and he started like criticizing her.

1825
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:33.540
And I don't remember what he said exactly

1826
01:20:33.540 --> 01:20:36.620
because I was just so shocked that he was saying that to me.

1827
01:20:36.620 --> 01:20:41.620
And he, and then he like remarked that she was going,

1828
01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:45.720
she was gonna go home with somebody to,

1829
01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:48.440
and then he used like a profane word.

1830
01:20:48.440 --> 01:20:50.320
And I was like, I was just like in shock.

1831
01:20:50.320 --> 01:20:51.920
And he's like, oh, I'm so sorry I said that,

1832
01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:53.780
but it's the truth.

1833
01:20:53.780 --> 01:20:57.380
And I'm like, I don't know.

1834
01:20:57.380 --> 01:20:59.220
I just, it made me feel uncomfortable.

1835
01:20:59.220 --> 01:21:02.020
I probably should have said more about it, but I didn't.

1836
01:21:03.060 --> 01:21:04.740
And then, just something.

1837
01:21:04.740 --> 01:21:07.500
No, okay, so he, so a woman was dressed provocatively

1838
01:21:07.500 --> 01:21:10.260
and she was taking selfies of herself and he said what?

1839
01:21:12.620 --> 01:21:15.460
He said that she's looking for one thing.

1840
01:21:15.460 --> 01:21:18.320
She's looking to go home with somebody and like,

1841
01:21:20.100 --> 01:21:23.960
you know, he used an explicit word.

1842
01:21:25.260 --> 01:21:26.940
Oh.

1843
01:21:27.460 --> 01:21:30.700
Yeah, and then he's like, oh, I'm sorry I said that.

1844
01:21:30.700 --> 01:21:31.540
And I just kind of-

1845
01:21:31.540 --> 01:21:36.420
So it sounds like he has a trigger in that area

1846
01:21:36.420 --> 01:21:38.280
because, you know, we've all seen people

1847
01:21:38.280 --> 01:21:39.980
that are up to no good or doing things

1848
01:21:39.980 --> 01:21:42.180
that are not worthy of them and all that stuff,

1849
01:21:42.180 --> 01:21:44.980
but we don't always comment on it, right?

1850
01:21:44.980 --> 01:21:47.360
We don't always, you know, a lot of times

1851
01:21:47.360 --> 01:21:50.220
we might even feel compassion or pity for that person,

1852
01:21:50.220 --> 01:21:53.420
but he felt kind of angry towards it.

1853
01:21:53.420 --> 01:21:54.860
That's definitely interesting.

1854
01:21:54.860 --> 01:21:57.180
I don't know if he's ever had anyone cheat on him before

1855
01:21:57.180 --> 01:21:59.180
or anyone that he was involved with,

1856
01:21:59.180 --> 01:22:03.140
even a parent that, you know, cheated or was, you know,

1857
01:22:04.420 --> 01:22:07.800
promiscuous because it sounds like he does have a trigger

1858
01:22:07.800 --> 01:22:09.380
somehow in that area.

1859
01:22:09.380 --> 01:22:12.740
I'm not saying where he's coming from, but sounds like it.

1860
01:22:12.740 --> 01:22:14.980
Yeah, I don't know if that's the case

1861
01:22:14.980 --> 01:22:16.980
because he has like a pretty clean slate.

1862
01:22:16.980 --> 01:22:18.540
What about religious?

1863
01:22:18.540 --> 01:22:20.100
Is he religious?

1864
01:22:20.100 --> 01:22:21.500
Okay, well, there you go.

1865
01:22:21.500 --> 01:22:22.740
A little bit, yeah.

1866
01:22:25.500 --> 01:22:28.220
Okay, so, and then he started,

1867
01:22:28.220 --> 01:22:30.780
I guess he's been reading about like toxic masculinity

1868
01:22:30.780 --> 01:22:34.480
and all that and like divine femininity.

1869
01:22:34.480 --> 01:22:38.340
And he was like telling me about how women

1870
01:22:38.340 --> 01:22:42.780
always like test men and that a man's job

1871
01:22:42.780 --> 01:22:44.800
is not to cave to a woman.

1872
01:22:46.060 --> 01:22:47.500
And he's like, they will test you.

1873
01:22:47.500 --> 01:22:49.820
And I'm like, okay, well, I don't do that.

1874
01:22:49.820 --> 01:22:54.820
But I feel like he withholds from me

1875
01:22:55.060 --> 01:23:00.060
in a way just to like proactively not test, like, you know.

1876
01:23:04.300 --> 01:23:06.600
Well, once again, you guys are just getting

1877
01:23:06.600 --> 01:23:09.460
to know each other, only time will tell.

1878
01:23:09.460 --> 01:23:12.580
I mean, this is such a very new relationship,

1879
01:23:12.580 --> 01:23:15.480
you know, just new connection, not even relationship.

1880
01:23:15.480 --> 01:23:17.540
And so these are things where, friends,

1881
01:23:17.540 --> 01:23:19.100
don't judge people prematurely.

1882
01:23:19.100 --> 01:23:21.500
I see a lot of you are trying to say, you know,

1883
01:23:21.500 --> 01:23:26.500
to who was on earlier, Andrea, that, you know,

1884
01:23:26.980 --> 01:23:29.060
that it felt like that guy was gaslighting.

1885
01:23:29.060 --> 01:23:32.980
I don't think that was gaslighting and I'm the coach.

1886
01:23:32.980 --> 01:23:35.740
So, but a lot of you have heart wounds

1887
01:23:35.740 --> 01:23:37.180
in the areas of those things.

1888
01:23:37.180 --> 01:23:39.220
And so you're gonna automatically jump to that.

1889
01:23:39.220 --> 01:23:41.380
Now, if, remember, that's why I asked her,

1890
01:23:41.380 --> 01:23:43.380
what do you like about him?

1891
01:23:43.380 --> 01:23:45.340
And the reason why is because a lot of times,

1892
01:23:45.340 --> 01:23:46.660
and this is where we have to be careful

1893
01:23:46.660 --> 01:23:48.340
when we're asking for coaching

1894
01:23:48.340 --> 01:23:50.760
or even asking for advice from a friend,

1895
01:23:50.760 --> 01:23:52.240
because of our own heart wounds,

1896
01:23:52.240 --> 01:23:54.200
we will exaggerate a situation.

1897
01:23:54.200 --> 01:23:57.080
Then of course, everyone's gonna be scream abuse then.

1898
01:23:57.080 --> 01:23:58.600
Everyone's gonna say, oh yeah, get out.

1899
01:23:58.600 --> 01:23:59.720
Ooh, that's gaslighting.

1900
01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:00.760
Oh, that's narcissism.

1901
01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:02.400
That sounds like a narcissist to me.

1902
01:24:02.400 --> 01:24:04.680
When you're exaggerating the situation

1903
01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:07.760
because you're triggered.

1904
01:24:07.760 --> 01:24:09.420
You're triggered by what they did

1905
01:24:09.420 --> 01:24:12.000
because of your own unhealed heart stuff.

1906
01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:14.480
I call it poking each other's heart wounds.

1907
01:24:14.480 --> 01:24:16.300
You're poking each other's heart wounds.

1908
01:24:16.300 --> 01:24:17.920
When they're not actually a bad person,

1909
01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:19.680
you guys just poked each other

1910
01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:21.760
and you guys got some stuff that came out of it

1911
01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:23.240
that was not great.

1912
01:24:23.240 --> 01:24:26.080
But that other person that you're asking for advice

1913
01:24:26.080 --> 01:24:28.040
or a coach that you're asking to give feedback,

1914
01:24:28.040 --> 01:24:29.320
they weren't there.

1915
01:24:29.320 --> 01:24:33.000
And so when we show up and we're having a level 10 response

1916
01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:34.840
to a level two situation,

1917
01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:37.280
people have a tendency to escalate with us.

1918
01:24:37.280 --> 01:24:38.800
But you guys, I've coached a lot of people,

1919
01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:40.240
so I know not to.

1920
01:24:40.240 --> 01:24:42.880
And that's why I ask supporting questions

1921
01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:44.740
that really get the bigger picture.

1922
01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:47.320
Now, if she couldn't think of anything

1923
01:24:47.320 --> 01:24:48.640
that she liked about him,

1924
01:24:49.240 --> 01:24:50.760
you know, she's like, he's a good guy.

1925
01:24:50.760 --> 01:24:51.680
He's a good dad.

1926
01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:53.160
He loves his children well.

1927
01:24:53.160 --> 01:24:54.520
He's sweet to my daughter.

1928
01:24:54.520 --> 01:24:55.760
He takes good care of people.

1929
01:24:55.760 --> 01:24:56.960
He loves people well.

1930
01:24:56.960 --> 01:24:58.720
Guys, those are all green flags.

1931
01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:00.520
Now.

1932
01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:04.960
Once again, if it, if it ends up that as she, you know,

1933
01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:10.240
gets to know him better and she sees more cracks in the

1934
01:25:10.240 --> 01:25:12.720
foundation, because you guys, people can't hide. They're crazy.

1935
01:25:13.320 --> 01:25:16.600
Eventually it does come to the surface. It really does.

1936
01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:19.960
And as long as we are not putting on blind spots and filters,

1937
01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:22.560
because we just want to make it work, then we're going to see it.

1938
01:25:24.320 --> 01:25:26.560
We are God defended and God will show us,

1939
01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:31.920
but we also don't want to cut and run just because people are in process and we

1940
01:25:32.240 --> 01:25:35.680
can't handle people in process because we're looking for perfection because we

1941
01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:37.200
have too many unhealed heart wounds.

1942
01:25:38.760 --> 01:25:42.280
And so we want to cut and run every time we see someone's yellow flags,

1943
01:25:43.800 --> 01:25:46.000
because we want to escalate them to red. Do you guys see that?

1944
01:25:48.240 --> 01:25:52.600
I've had several different situations just recently where that has happened.

1945
01:25:53.160 --> 01:25:55.760
People poking each other's heart wounds,

1946
01:25:56.960 --> 01:26:01.280
people misunderstanding each other just had a situation where, you know,

1947
01:26:01.280 --> 01:26:05.280
two people that met, they got together,

1948
01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:09.280
they had a conversation over, over technology.

1949
01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:14.600
And the guy said one thing that triggered the girl.

1950
01:26:15.160 --> 01:26:19.160
And then she completely had a response

1951
01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:21.440
that was level 10.

1952
01:26:23.360 --> 01:26:28.360
And it was full of all kinds of preconceived ideas based on one little thing.

1953
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:33.920
And then when I talked to both of them separately, I could definitely see,

1954
01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:36.960
I could piece the puzzle pieces together and see that these people were poking

1955
01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:37.800
each other's heart wounds.

1956
01:26:39.360 --> 01:26:43.400
This woman had her guard up for certain triggers. And when they happened,

1957
01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:47.560
she was, she completely shut down.

1958
01:26:49.200 --> 01:26:53.400
And this guy didn't even know what he did because he was trying to do something

1959
01:26:53.420 --> 01:26:54.640
completely different. And so you guys,

1960
01:26:54.640 --> 01:26:58.600
they were at opposite ends of the spectrum trying to pull something out of each

1961
01:26:58.600 --> 01:26:59.200
other.

1962
01:26:59.200 --> 01:27:03.120
And what happened instead is that they completely misunderstood each other.

1963
01:27:03.520 --> 01:27:07.080
And then there was an impasse. Do you guys know how often this happens?

1964
01:27:09.280 --> 01:27:13.400
And the reason why is because you're not showing up as a fat little newborn baby

1965
01:27:13.440 --> 01:27:17.320
into these dating relationships, right?

1966
01:27:17.440 --> 01:27:21.560
You're showing up with all of your baggage.

1967
01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:24.800
And that's why we do part work in phase one.

1968
01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:27.560
So we can try to diffuse some of these bombs before they go off.

1969
01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:31.360
Now there are going to be things that you just can't get past and you just can't

1970
01:27:31.360 --> 01:27:32.280
get over right now.

1971
01:27:32.280 --> 01:27:36.080
And you are not going to be able to partner with someone who pokes those wounds.

1972
01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:39.520
You're not going to be able to see past it. And that's fine.

1973
01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:42.440
I don't believe you can miss out on your spirit mate if you're really

1974
01:27:42.440 --> 01:27:44.800
surrendering to healing, but you just aren't there yet.

1975
01:27:44.840 --> 01:27:47.000
And some people just bring out the worst in each other.

1976
01:27:47.040 --> 01:27:48.400
Neither one of them are bad people,

1977
01:27:48.400 --> 01:27:51.000
but they bring out the worst in each other because they don't have

1978
01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:52.560
complimentary heart wounds.

1979
01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:55.480
They have heart wounds that are going to antagonize each other.

1980
01:27:56.960 --> 01:28:00.920
I call it poking each other's orphan, poking each other's orphan.

1981
01:28:02.400 --> 01:28:03.000
Okay.

1982
01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:07.480
So I want to say that because a lot of you will jump to immediately to terms

1983
01:28:07.480 --> 01:28:10.800
like gaslighting and narcissism. You know,

1984
01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:13.080
I'm so glad that we've learned these words.

1985
01:28:13.200 --> 01:28:18.200
But let's also learn some other words like personal accountability for your own

1986
01:28:18.200 --> 01:28:20.520
heart work. Okay.

1987
01:28:21.720 --> 01:28:25.120
Now, none of you guys jumped in the love seat and don't think I didn't notice

1988
01:28:25.120 --> 01:28:28.560
that. In fact, Bob, who's new here, thinks that we're having a girl chat,

1989
01:28:31.120 --> 01:28:34.880
but we're not Bob. All this stuff pertains to men as well.

1990
01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:39.240
And you can apply all of this advice to yourself. Okay.

1991
01:28:39.320 --> 01:28:41.160
It's not a girl chat. It's not a guy chat.

1992
01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:43.320
Okay. It's not a girl chat.

1993
01:28:44.360 --> 01:28:49.360
But none of you guys wanted to get into the love seat and I don't know why.

1994
01:28:50.160 --> 01:28:54.360
So Bob's learning a lot. Thanks, Bob. I'm just, I'm picking on you,

1995
01:28:54.360 --> 01:28:55.480
but I'm not really picking on you.

1996
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.240
Friends, I'm going to take single spotlights to the app.

1997
01:29:02.240 --> 01:29:05.080
So if you're in phase three and you have not joined the app yet,

1998
01:29:05.080 --> 01:29:07.280
please do that. If you're like, I don't know how to join the app,

1999
01:29:07.520 --> 01:29:11.320
email us at admin, Jackie at admin at Jackie Dorman.com.

2000
01:29:11.560 --> 01:29:14.200
So we can get you on the app. If you're in phase two,

2001
01:29:14.200 --> 01:29:17.360
when you graduate to phase three, you will also be on the app.

2002
01:29:18.400 --> 01:29:22.120
And the reason why this is important is because ask Jackie is going to happen

2003
01:29:22.120 --> 01:29:26.000
inside the app now and the replay, excuse me, and the replay will be there.

2004
01:29:26.360 --> 01:29:30.840
And then also I'm going to be single spotlighting eligible men to you in the

2005
01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:33.960
app, right? And then you can,

2006
01:29:34.320 --> 01:29:38.840
you can let us know whether or not they are guys that you, you know,

2007
01:29:38.920 --> 01:29:42.600
that you fit the criteria of a match for them and whether or not you would want

2008
01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:46.920
to meet them. And then three, our matchmaking platform, the,

2009
01:29:47.160 --> 01:29:48.720
the community level of that,

2010
01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:52.360
the dating base is going to be available very soon.

2011
01:29:52.360 --> 01:29:56.840
And you guys will be filling out a pretty lengthy questionnaire about yourself

2012
01:29:57.120 --> 01:29:59.960
for the purpose of the computer algorithm to match.

2013
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:05.340
you within the dating base. All right. And so that is something that we have been working

2014
01:30:05.340 --> 01:30:10.720
on and we're going to have that level of that done. And then sometime, probably towards

2015
01:30:10.720 --> 01:30:16.060
the end of August, early September, we'll have the whole spirit mate match site done.

2016
01:30:16.060 --> 01:30:21.340
And that spirit mate match site is going to be great. And I'm excited about that. All

2017
01:30:21.340 --> 01:30:25.380
right. Um, no, Mike, I wasn't saying that you were saying the gaslighting. I'm just

2018
01:30:25.380 --> 01:30:28.900
like, we are very, we're very quick, especially people that have been through a lot of abuse

2019
01:30:28.900 --> 01:30:34.140
to jump to, Hey, this is abusive, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's

2020
01:30:34.140 --> 01:30:40.420
abusive. And a lot of times we're actually part of the problem when these things happen

2021
01:30:40.420 --> 01:30:44.940
in these new connections. And so it's important that we take accountability for that and we

2022
01:30:44.940 --> 01:30:53.180
see how we might be triggering each other. Cool. All right. Okay. So let's see, is there

2023
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anything else that we need to talk about? I'm going to be spotlighting singles gentlemen.

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I will also be spotlighting ladies to you in the app. Sorry. I forgot to tell you that.

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And so that will be happening as well, especially for you guys that have been asking for certain

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types of matches. And we have lots of private clients right now in this season, you guys.

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So just because you don't see people here does not mean that we do not have more people

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that are working with us to find their spirit mates because there's a whole lot of people.

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All right. So we're right about at 90 minutes. This has been super fun. I will go ahead and

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answer the ask Jackie questions in the app. Don't forget about the toucans and you guys

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don't forget about this miracle of this Opal being returned and restored. If you have something

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that has been lost and you've never been able to find it, go ahead and raise your hand right now.

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It might be something tangible material possession. It could be something else that

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you think qualifies for this. And so Lord, I just thank you right now, the same way that you

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returned this and you've returned other things to me in the past as well, that it seemed impossible

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for those things to ever be found. We just release that right now that angels are on a

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assignment to go into, find these lost things and return them to their rightful owners,

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to their rightful owners. And I just see heavens lost and found right now.

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And there are things that some of you didn't even raise your hand, or maybe you raised your

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hand for something else, but I hear Holy spirit saying that there are things in heavens lost and

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found that have been lost. And you don't even know that they've been lost. There's a lot of

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and found that have been lost. And you don't even know that they've been lost.

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There's different gifts and talents and mantles or different opportunities and open doors and

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keys of authority that you don't even know have been lost. Not even maybe in your generation,

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but in the generations of your family line that came before you and they, and they,

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they hold with them material possessions. There have been houses and lands. There's

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been all kinds of different things like that website that the government puts out that,

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Hey, we owe you money. If this is you, you know, you have lost money and here it is.

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I just declare right now that whatever belongs to your sons and daughters is returned from the

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north, south, east, and west angels on assignment, bringing it back to them, whether it's land,

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deeds, titles, money, inheritance, opportunities, gifts, callings, mantles,

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people that have been lost. Someone has a lost loved one. You haven't heard from in a long time.

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You have no idea where they are. They've been lost for a long time. You've wondered if you're

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ever going to hear from them again, father, we thank you that the loss will be found in Jesus

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name. Amen. Lost pet. Someone lost a cat. Lord, we thank you for closure in these situations.

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We thank you, Lord, that you restore you restore in Jesus name. Amen. Right. We'll see you guys

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soon. Get on the app. If you're not there, if you're a level two, you're not quite there yet,

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but you're almost there and we'll see you there soon. Bye.
