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Hello and welcome to today's 52 Coffees podcast.

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I'm Cindy Williams, your host, and I am so thankful that you are here today because we

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have a great topic coming up.

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Every week I invite on extraordinary women who are living exceptional lives, advancing

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daily and achieving their dreams.

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And I am so excited to invite today's guest, Brenda Byers, here to discuss wealth of money

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and taking it from that God faith perspective.

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She is the owner of Prosper in All Things, and I found out she loves salsa dancing, has

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three kids.

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She has had multiple, you know, seven figure successful businesses.

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You are the coach to coaches.

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And I'm just so honored just to be able to talk with you and just to ask questions.

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So welcome, Brenda.

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Thank you, Cindy.

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I'm honored to be here.

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And yes, I love all of those subjects.

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I love salsa dancing.

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I love business.

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I love God.

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Glad to be here with you.

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Yeah.

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That's a great integration.

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God, salsa, and business.

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So I want to know, I want you to tell us about your journey.

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I know you've been successful and I kind of read a little bit months ago on LinkedIn,

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you know, just how you kind of started off people saying, no, you can't do this.

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No, you can't do that.

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And you said, well, how can I?

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And you launched out.

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So I want to hear your story, just the journey to where you are today.

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Thank you.

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Well, it's been a long journey.

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I won't bore you with the length of it.

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I will shorten it.

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I will say that around 2004, I've loved God since I was 17 years old.

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God found me.

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I came from a very traumatic domestic violence, alcohol, drugs, all kinds of childhood.

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So God really scooped me up and Jesus has been my source in everything.

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2004, I had an encounter with the Holy Spirit and I had no idea what was happening.

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And it was not something I was taught.

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It was something God was doing.

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I'll never forget.

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I went to, at that time I was founder of a nutritional network marketing company, a multi

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seven figure international company.

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And I was going to be doing a teaching, a talk in the Bay Area.

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And I went on the weekend to prepare for that, went to sit down at my laptop in my office.

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And I felt the Holy Spirit say, no, get your Bible down.

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We're not doing this.

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And he had me open to first Corinthians chapters 12 through 14.

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And I remember reading it.

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And I remember saying, that's not what I was taught because I was not taught that in church.

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And I said that, but that's not what I was taught.

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And the Holy Spirit said, read it again.

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I read it twice, but that's not what it was taught.

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Read it again.

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Third time.

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I said, okay, God, I want it.

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And that launched a wild season of miracles as it relates to the Holy Spirit in business.

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And it became a wild ride.

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I did not understand marketplace ministry.

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I didn't understand what was happening, but I began to see so many miracles in the marketplace

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and I could tell stories and stories.

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That's where the whole idea of integrating faith and business, you know, a person that

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I met, Glenn White shared a concept, many people God started bringing into my life to

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raise me up to having an understanding.

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And he calls it business street, business and ministry.

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And I don't want to take ownership for that, but I will tell you that that's where I come

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from.

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I come from, instead of having our life compartmentalized and, you know, that faith is relegated to

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Sunday mornings or Wednesday nights and that, you know, we're one person nine to five and

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we're another, you know, at night and another on the weekends, et cetera.

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God really began to teach me about decompartmentalize and instead of living a fragmented life, bringing

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it all together.

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And it was then that he began to teach me in the scriptures.

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And so I began to understand, for example.

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the word work in the Bible is the same Greek word as serve and

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worship. Right. And so I began to understand that God is

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infragmented, and that our life is meant to be one. And so when

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I started 12 years ago, in 2012, when I started prosper in all

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things, I had gone through a pretty rough divorce and things

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happening. And I knew I wanted to minister to women. And at

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that point, God had really taught me about this

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integration about prospering about third, he gave me the

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name, he saved the website for me, I didn't pay extra.

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It's like, I knew what I was supposed to be doing. And that

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comes from third john to, of course. And so that's a summary

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of my passion and how I came to be here. That has, you know,

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taken a lot of directions. I have a coach certification

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program, prosper TV, the prosper leader membership, been a coach

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to coaches. So it's taken a lot of directions. It's been a fun

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journey. But it's all about integrating faith.

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Yeah, yeah. You know, what I love that story about that story

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first, is that when we take that first step, and it can be just a

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small step, but it's that first little step of faith, and just

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the, the doors just start to open up, maybe not all at once.

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But as God has designed it, they open up. And I think we were

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supposed to meet because that is exactly I see it as there's

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work, there's faith in life, you know, like three squares. And

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you go and you do your nine to five, and maybe you're dreaming

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about your five to nine. But but you put work, work there, and

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you go to church on Sunday, and you fill out the bulletin, you

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sing the songs, you drink the coffee, have the donut, there

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you go, shove the bulletin in your Bible, and that's it until

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next Sunday. Yeah. But I love that that integration, you know,

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in we feel so unfulfilled and disconnected in our lives,

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because we forget about the integration. Yeah. So yeah, I

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mean, when you really think about who God says we are, we're

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the tools of the Holy Spirit. I mean, we're, we're literally the

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container of God, right? There's a there's a verse in Scripture

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about Gideon, where the Holy Spirit says that the Holy

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Spirit put Gideon on like a glove, like, literally, we're

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the body, but it's the Holy Spirit. And in him, we live and

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move and have our being we have the mind of Christ, we have the

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power, we have authority, we have dominion. And so Jesus did

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most of his miracles in the marketplace, not in the church.

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And so I have, I've just experienced the beauty of that I

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saw my entire staff transform in the previous company and and of

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course, in prosper, and to just see what can happen when we

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tear down the fragmentation, because that fragmentation also

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Cindy, it exhausts us, okay, we're living those kind of

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multiplied lives. We're usually in striving, we are in

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stressing, we are in sacrificing, we're taught, you

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know, sacrifice your health to get wealth, broken model, then

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we end up sacrificing our wealth to get our health back, right.

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And so when we bring all of this together, and it's all under the

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lordship of Jesus, and the Holy Spirit is fueling everything,

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miracles break out, I have one room in that office, when this

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first started, that was a small conference room, it became known

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as the healing room, because people would come to pick up

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products, and they'd ask for prayer, and they'd come in there

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and they'd be healed. And one day, I looked out the window,

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and there was a tree and I had to go outside and look, it was

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outside the window of this healing room. And you know,

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scripture says, all of nature is groaning, waiting for us,

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right, to the sons and daughters of God to be revealed to step

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into who he made us to be, right. So I go out there to

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look, and Cindy, there was blossoms, not up on the

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branches. Yes, it was there like a normal tree. There was

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blossoms all the way down the trunk, there was blossoms on the

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roots. I have never seen such a thing. I walked the whole

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business park to see if these same trees that are everywhere,

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nowhere else. It was like the very nature was celebrating. And

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I believe that this is the season that God is calling us to

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step out of that fragment and step into the fullness.

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Yeah, you know, it reminds me that that vision of the tree,

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when I stepped out after my I had a 10 year

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out of, you know, really just closing my Bible and just,

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we were going through a very traumatic family event

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and went through depression and all of that.

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And I finally opened my Bible up after 10 years

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and God took me to Psalm 52, eight

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and it's just become my cornerstone.

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And it says, but I am like an olive tree

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flourishing in the house of my God.

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I will, you know, praise him forever and ever.

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And I just, I took that word flourish

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and this is what I want to talk to you about next.

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I gave each letter of the word flourish

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an affirmation really.

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So, you know, free or F was for free to live a large life

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and L is live out, live out your love out loud.

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And, you know, all of it,

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but the first three letters was flow, F-L-O, right?

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And so I want you to talk about flow

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because I read that and I'm like, that is so-

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It's pretty magical that you're saying that.

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I don't know if you know or not, but I am doing a,

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if you're listening to this in real time,

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I am doing a series the last week of June

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and it's about everything we're talking about.

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It is how do you build a prosperous business

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in this market that without striving,

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without stressing, without sacrificing,

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well, day three is about flow.

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So like the whole day is dedicated.

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So I love that you said that and everything in life,

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the way that God has designed it, it's all flow, okay?

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No matter how you look at it, we're talking trees.

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If I look outside, the trees breathe out oxygen.

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I breathe in, I breathe out the carbon.

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There's this flow, the rain goes up and it comes down.

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So think about flow.

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We measure our health by flow, oxygen flow, blood flow.

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We measure our financial health by flow.

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The very name of our money, currency, means flow.

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The word affluent means flow, right?

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And so scripture says that rivers of living water

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will flow out of our belly.

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And so understanding flow, I'm actually gonna teach you

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because most people don't understand it,

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especially biblically,

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and most people are constricting the flow.

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They're coagulated, they're constipated.

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Right now we're in a recession, supposedly.

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That's a constipation of coagulation, right?

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And so, which is blocking the flow.

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And so learning, how do you biblically activate the flow?

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How do you live in the flow?

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The Holy Spirit is flow.

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God is a God of overflow.

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Like there's so much around flow

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and flow is about life.

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Flow is absolutely about life.

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Yeah, isn't it amazing how God has created things,

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all the things that you just described,

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to move forward, to flow forward.

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And it's only us as humans, as sinful human beings,

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who step back, who say, you know, I'm gonna stop.

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I'm not gonna move forward in life.

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You know, we regress back, but God's calling us

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to move forward, to move into that flow.

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So look at what happens when flow stops.

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I've been to Israel, okay?

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And you think about the Jordan River.

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I've been in the Sea of Galilee.

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It's massive.

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It's like an ocean, okay?

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And then you've got the Jordan River

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and then it ends up in the Dead Sea, right?

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There's no flow.

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There's an inlet.

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There's no outlet.

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Nothing to live in the Dead Sea, you see?

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So when we stop having flow, life stops.

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Yeah, and that's why we feel stuck and we feel stagnant

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and, you know, miserable, really.

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You just feel miserable, like you can't breathe.

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How do you, you work with women, you know,

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entrepreneurs or coaches, you know, wanting to launch out.

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How do you help them to integrate their faith

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into what they do?

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I mean, how do you get that flowing in their life?

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That's a really great question.

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You know, I am a coach to coaches

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and to high-level entrepreneurs.

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And the equation that I use for success

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is mindset plus skillset plus right action equals success.

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So in mindset, scripture says that we're transformed

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by the renewing of our mind.

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So faith begins in the changing of our thoughts,

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that our thoughts begin to line up with God's thought,

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how God sees us, how God sees money, how God sees business.

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So there's this renewing of the mind

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that needs to happen, right?

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And so there's a skillset of business.

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And how do you truly prosper in this market?

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There's also the skill set of how

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do you integrate your faith into everything that you do?

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I think I started in God just moved through me,

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and it was pure boldness and craziness maybe,

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but I'm really grateful it's brought me to where I am.

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When I launched Prosper in All Things,

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I launched with a speaking model because I'd

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been speaking on large stages for 30 years.

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I launched three full-day events.

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The first was called God, Money, and Me.

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Now, you didn't even put those three words together, right?

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I'm telling you, the Christians were mad at me

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putting God in the money, and the non-Christians

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were mad at me putting God in there.

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Like, everybody was all in that.

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The fact that I was charging $597 for this one-day event,

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it was so interesting.

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But I launched with God, Money, and Me,

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and God just had this ordered.

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and the third one was God, Love, and Me.

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to teach me about prospering in all things

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and integrating our faith into every aspect

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because our faith has a huge aspect on our emotions,

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huge aspects on our health, huge aspect on our finances.

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There's a skill set.

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And I did something interesting

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that God just gave me the words, but I asked permission.

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I started doing different masterclasses and things,

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and I said, I'm going to ask your permission.

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They knew I'd made multi-seven figures.

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They knew I understood business.

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And I said, I want to give you the best.

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I want to share what has worked for me,

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what can work for you.

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Can I have permission to authentically show up

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and share what has worked for me?

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Even if a majority of that comes from something

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you don't read from the Bible, if I use the word God,

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can I have permission,

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just like I'd like to honor you and give you permission,

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can we give each other permission

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to show up fully as ourselves?

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Nobody said no.

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And from that day on, I could teach.

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And there's so much power in the word

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that I could integrate the word.

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And the Bible has so much to say about money,

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about business, about health, about everything, right?

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And so it opened those doors.

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everything I do is faith integrated, everything.

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That's so beautiful, what you just described.

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I love that.

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It's giving me chills.

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I had this vision, I'm gonna say maybe a month or so ago

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of that God doesn't wanna be my seasoning.

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He doesn't want me to just season it out there in the world

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because I am a woman of faith.

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And do I just throw it out there just enough

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where I can say God,

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so people will know I'm a woman of faith,

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but it won't be too much where it's not palatable anymore.

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And God said, no, I am your main course.

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I want you to digest and consume me.

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And it's down to your fingertips.

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And it is to go out into everything that you do,

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do not hold back.

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I love it.

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And it seemed like I was flat before the Lord

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and he really moved things.

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There were things that I had been really working on

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that weren't coming together

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and they just started coming together.

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And I think it's that obedience that we need to have

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to say, you know what, it's yours.

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And then I need to tell you something.

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I want to ask your opinion on this.

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My husband and I, we have a home church.

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We just started like a month ago.

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And we were teaching on a Psalm 41 through three,

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you know, where he pulls us out of the miry pit

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and he sets our feet upon the rock

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and he gives us a firm place to stand, yeah.

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And in the Young's literal,

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where it says he gives us a firm place to stand,

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it says he is establishing our steps.

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It's a present participle.

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It's ongoing.

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He's always working to establish our steps.

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you know where it says,

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commit your way to the Lord.

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And I just learned something just a couple of days ago.

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So I want to share this with you.

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You probably already know this,

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but commit in the Hebrew means role.

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It means release.

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Isn't that beautiful?

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So when we commit our way to the Lord,

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we're rolling it over to him.

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We're releasing it to him

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so that he can establish our plans.

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So speak on that.

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I want to hear your take.

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I think you covered it.

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I think that is so beautiful.

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That was the immediate verse.

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that came and the only other verse that comes

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is cast your cares on him, right?

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It is that constant of just,

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and there's, I have a philosophy on this,

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a biblical philosophy, I think,

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that there's things that God does,

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and only God, and can do.

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There's things that God can't do, believe it or not,

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that only we can do, okay?

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And I think about the freeing of the Hebrews from Egypt.

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So he could, in a miracle, he could free them.

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He couldn't renew their mind, they had to do that.

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You see?

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So you can see this, there is this,

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the Bible's filled with cos,

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co-laboring, co-heirs, you know?

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And so there is this divine partnership.

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I do a whole series, and I'm doing one day

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in my upcoming series on partnering with God,

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because there's these things that God will do,

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there's things he won't.

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You look at, there was places that Jesus went,

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and this is Jesus that says he couldn't do any miracles

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because there wasn't faith there, right?

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So there's things that we're called to do,

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and part of that is renewing our mind,

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getting the word, surrendering, like you're talking about,

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you know, those type of things that we're called to do,

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and then that opens the door for God to move.

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I'm not, you know, I'm not saying there isn't a miracle

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where God just zaps you and does something,

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but the normal way that he works is it's this partnership.

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Yeah, we have to take the action

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through our obedience, right?

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He's gonna work through us, but there's that part

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where we have to step out in obedience.

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I often, I think it's used as an excuse sometimes,

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there's too many people that say,

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well, I'm just waiting on God,

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and even that is an active waiting when you study.

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I love that you said that.

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I always say waiting is a verb, it's a verb.

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Yeah, and I often say, and God's waiting on you.

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That's the truth.

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You know, I always say,

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even like people wanting to build a business, you know,

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they're not getting out there and talking

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and meeting people.

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I'm like, your prospect's not gonna knock on your door

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and go knock on your back bedroom door

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and come in and say, please, I want your business.

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I wanna be a business partner.

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You know, that's why I say it's mindset,

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skillset, action equals results.

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And so God is calling us, but this is a season,

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and this is a season that the doors are open very, very wide.

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I believe we're going into, in some ways,

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one of the darkest seasons,

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and God has been showing me Philippians 2,

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that we will shine like bright stars

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against that dark contrast,

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will only enter us into one of the greatest seasons,

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and us meaning, I'm not anybody

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that has surrendered to the Lord in this season.

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I believe the doors have really opened

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for a very supernatural, miraculous season.

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There's a new, there's a new almost coming out

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of people sharing their faith,

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of making a demand on their faith.

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That's another element I would talk about.

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I think about the woman with the issue of blood.

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Think about all that she'd been,

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she tried all the doctors,

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she exhausted all her resources.

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She was unclean, she was despised,

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she couldn't be seen in public,

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but she changed her mind and she changed her mouth.

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And I teach the biblical mind, heart, mouth connection.

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She changed her words,

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and she kept on repeating to herself,

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if I can only touch the hem of his garment,

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I shall be healed.

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And you see her, she wants to crawl.

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She can't even walk, and there's blood,

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and she's being kicked around.

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She has to crawl.

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Jesus is not coming to her.

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Jesus is walking the other direction.

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She comes and she makes it to touch,

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as she had visualized, she held the vision,

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she spoke the words, she took the action,

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and she was healed.

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And Jesus said, who touched me?

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Of course, he's nuts.

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What do you mean, who touched you?

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He said, no, no, someone pulled the virtue out of me,

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the scriptures say.

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She literally made a demand on Jesus

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and pulled her healing right.

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He wasn't turning to her.

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He didn't walk up and say, bless you, my child.

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She made a demand.

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And I believe we're in a season right now

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to make a demand when it comes to our business,

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when it comes to our finances,

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when it comes to our healing,

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I believe it's gonna be a time of bold faith,

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making a demand on God,

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and it's gonna be a season of miracles.

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I've seen enough miracles to, I've told you,

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fill journals and journals and journals, right?

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I believe that's another thing I'm gonna teach about.

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circles in the marketplace. God is calling us to experience.

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I'm in agreement with you. And aren't we right for it? Has he

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not been preparing the ground? You know, there's so much

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disconnection. And just, you know, we're just right. The

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women that I talked to, and that I lead, you know, they come,

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because they want something, they don't even know what they

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want. You know, they're just right to hear you share with

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them, and they're just right to hear. And we'll pray for that

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together. Yeah, that's beautiful. I want to make a

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little switch right now. And I want to talk you teach women to

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prosper in all things. And I know, in particular with the

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women that I work with, and myself for my past, just growing

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up in a very, you know, interesting financial

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environment. I want to talk about women and our money

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blocks, and our fear of charging what we're worth, or, you know,

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even in our careers for, you know, asking for the raise, and

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in all of that, what do you see from your coaching perspective?

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Oh, that's a big one. Like I said, with God money, and me, I

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teach that a lot. It's really big. And there's a lot of

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dimensions to it. Okay. So on one side, there is limiting

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beliefs. On other sides, there's value conflicts. On other sides,

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there is, there is religious beliefs that have infiltrated,

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you know, the the vow of poverty has infiltrated us all. And so

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it's this idea that if I'm ministering, if I'm helping

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people, if I'm integrating my faith, the minute I integrate my

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faith, now it's a ministry, now I should not charge. And so

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there's this idea of the poor pastor in the broken down car

507
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that can't even support his children is holy. And that if we

508
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have money, somehow we're not holy. It's not biblical, it

509
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doesn't line up with how God has worked or is working. But it is

510
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such a prevalent, it's, it's gotten its threads into all of

511
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culture. So sometimes it's just internal, I'm not worthy. And

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that's more like imposter syndrome, who am I to charge a

513
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lot, and they're gonna find me out. And you know, I don't know

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enough, I'm not educated enough, I'm too old, I'm too young,

515
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whatever the story. So there's, there's the story, the personal

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story, there's the value conflicts that says, if I make

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money, I'm going to lose, like, I'll make a lot of money, I'll

518
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lose my family, I'll make money, I'll lose my faith, I'll make

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money. You know, there's, there's, there's a lot of that

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kind of story. So a lot of times, you got to get to the

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underlying narrative that's driving it, because I see all of

522
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these in my coaching, and we just, we just get breakthrough.

523
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But that one is really powerful. I told you, I launched with

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those three events. And there's a funny story around that. It

525
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came back to me through the grapevine, that there was a

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ministry leader that said that it was ridiculous, I was

527
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charging too much as a Christian. And I said that word,

528
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and I said, you share, I'd love to meet her. And you let her

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know, I'm not in the business of lowering my prices, but I'm in

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the business of raising hers. And do you know, I ended up

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coaching her for many years, she built a wide organization,

532
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and we worked through the charging and the money. So a lot

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of times, I think it's those of us that have the courage to lead

534
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by example. There's the, you know, there's kind of the other

535
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beliefs that if I, if I, you know, have money, I'm going to

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become greedy. I disagree. I have I have a vision, I have a

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vision for having retreat centers on four continents for

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different purposes. I have a vision of those being very high

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ticket, their total soul transformation, spirit, soul

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body, I have a vision that is very high ticket to get there.

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90% of that goes to the mamas and the babies of the land. So

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it's that I'll be able to vision God's given me for healing

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centers for educational centers for micro lending for the

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women. Guess what? It's money that allows us to do that. It's

545
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money that puts in the wells, it's money that builds schools,

546
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it's money that builds the hospitals, being broke doesn't

547
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serve you or anyone, it doesn't serve your family, it doesn't

548
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serve anyone, and it doesn't make you more holy. Now, I'm not

549
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saying to go the other extreme, okay, of mammon. And and and

550
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what is mammon? It's where I

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put money in the place of God, right? Yeah. Money is not my source. God is my source. There's one

552
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source. Okay. So if I start thinking of money or my job or my social security or my IRA or

553
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any other thing as my source, now I'm into idolatry and now God's not going to bless it.

554
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Yeah. Okay. So, so it's a deep question. We can spend weeks on it because there's many layers,

555
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but the key is replacing every one of those layers with the truth. They're lies. They're

556
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lies that are keeping us stuck and keeping us broke. And there's no, no reason for it. It's

557
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not biblical at all. Yeah. You just answered that question so beautifully. I know it was

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multifaceted and we could spend a whole, you know, a long time on it. I, you answered it in the very

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end when you talked about what your vision was, you know, with the four retreat centers

560
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and my husband and I, we went to a life surge event. I don't know if you've heard of life

561
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surge, but it was, you know, about how to make a kingdom impact with the wealth that he provides

562
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for us and just being the poor church that our father owns the cattle on a thousand Hills and

563
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how better to take back the land for Christ than to use wealth as a tool and money as a tool to do

564
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exactly what you just said, you know, take your vision when God's given you build the retreat

565
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centers for, for my husband and I, we want to use lead my life to, you know, I work with a

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lot of women who are divorced or widowed who are just like their life changes in the drop of a hat

567
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and they're totally displaced. They've been taking care of the kids for 25 years and they,

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they don't know what to do with their life. And it's my vision to, you know, buy an apartment

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complex and hold two units back and offer that as a place for them to get back on their feet. So I

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think the more that we use the wealth that he gives us as a tool, you know, that's how he

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designed it. Yeah. He gives each of us a vision. Yeah. I love, I saw your vision, you shared it

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and I love it. It's so beautiful. And I know, cause I went through a divorce and I know what

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that is like where you have no source of income because you were busy homeschooling the kids and

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doing even, even though I built multimillion dollar companies, it's another story, but I know

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that feeling. And I love, love, love, love that you're doing that. And you used a word that I

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think is, is really important. Money is a tool. It's a tool. That means as a tool, it can be a

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hammer to kill someone or as a tool, it can be a hammer to build a beautiful home for displaced

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women. And if, when we understand that, if we can detach the, the energy, the story, the angst

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that we've placed on money, it's just an exchange, right? It's just, you know, if you, if you think

580
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back, you know, it started with beads and shells and, and, and bark, you know, cows for, you know,

581
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I'll give you my butter, you give me your wool, you know, you trying to come up with a fair exchange.

582
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Well, how much butter for how much the wool. And so now we're using, you know, whatever shelves,

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beads, it becomes coin and paper money. It's simply a means of exchange. We've attached so much

584
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energy and angst to it, right? It's just a tool. It's just a tool.

585
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Yeah. What a beautiful conversation. Thank you so much for having that with me. I just I'm going

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to have to replay that over and over. We're very like-minded sister. I'm honored. I love your

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vision. I love being able to I look forward to just getting to know you more and collaborating.

588
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Yes, yes, absolutely. I tell everybody who's listening that when we came on, we're just like,

589
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you know, we're two sisters in Christ who you just want to further the kingdom of God. We're

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here to support women in our different ways and within our different visions that God's given us.

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I want to know Brenda, what is, what is next for you? What, what exciting thing? I, we know you

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have the workshop and I'm going to put a link to the workshop and I'll also post it on my LinkedIn

593
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too. But what's next for you? Anything exciting coming up? You know, this is the really big

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thing that's on my mind right now are these retreats. God has given me such a vision for

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that. And they're, they're different in different places. And so I'm really in the exploring and

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collaborating and mapping it out. I see a horse ranch in Columbia for women in trauma. I see more

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of a health in Belize. I see more of a business retreat in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in,

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Italy now, I've done retreats. It's not doing the retreats. It's the land, it's the total experience

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from the water to the smells, to the art, to the music, to the garden. It's the experience completely

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for total soul prosperity. So, you know, on an individual, I coach women to experience that.

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Sometimes it's just a one-day coaching to get their business profitable, prosperous, to get

602
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absolute clarity, right? It's just many women get clear on their niche, get clear on their packages,

603
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their pricing, so they can go from no clients. I mean, for them, this is huge. Let's go from no

604
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clients to high ticket clients coming on a regular basis. So I start sometimes on that level, sometimes

605
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90 days, sometimes a year. So that's my passion there. I have the Transfer Leader Membership.

606
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We'll give you a link for that too. In COVID, God spoke to me and said two things. He said,

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we are not those who draw back in fear. And he said, gather the women. And he showed me women

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linking arms and carrying each other across their personal finish line. So that is the Prosper Leader

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Membership. It's got all access paths to all the things I've created, as well as the community and

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the group coaching. So whether someone just needs to jumpstart, they want to be part of a community,

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or I'm working on the bigger things with the retreat center. That's where my mind and heart is right now.

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I love the idea of a retreat center, because one of the things that I teach,

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because I found in my life I was not doing it, is the reflect, the reset, renew, and being able to

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pull yourself away for a time. You have to. You have to be able to get away in what you're

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setting up. I can't wait to hear more about it and start to see it come into fruition.

616
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Well, I'm excited with your real estate background and everything. Let's see what God's going to do.

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I'm not international, but...

618
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Yeah, let's see what God's going to do with the knowledge that you have.

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So yeah, I love what you're doing for divorced women and coaching and bringing this podcast.

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Feel honored that you invited me to be on it. I'm thrilled to where this divine appointment's

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going to go from here. Yeah, beautiful. Beautiful. Thank you. And if you were listening today,

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feel free to subscribe so you can get more on your Monday morning. And we just want to thank

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Brenda for being a part of this today, and we look forward to next week.

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And I'm going to just stop the recording right here.
