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How should believers view money?

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And the money that we have,

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like just a mindset shift of,

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doesn't necessarily matter if you have a lot or not,

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it'd be like, how do we view it?

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And I think the answer to that question

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is you view it as the Lord's.

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♪ Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, yeah ♪

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Welcome back to the Outnumbered Podcast

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with Joey and Allie, where we talk about our life,

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our life with kids, our careers,

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what it's like to be outnumbered by our children,

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going from high school sweethearts to where we are now.

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So that's what this podcast is all about.

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But today we're talking about.

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Money.

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Money.

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Yes, more specifically like how to live more frugally

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as things get more expensive.

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Yeah, how do you cut back?

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How do you take care of the resources that you have

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and steward things well?

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And a lot more.

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So we have five points that we'll go through today,

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but first disclaimer, we are not financial experts

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or formally trained.

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That is true.

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Yeah, we're just gonna talk about the things we've learned

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in eight years of marriage and adding kids.

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So adding mouths to feed and what we've had to do

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to make sure that we're stewarding our money well.

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And so we'll just talk about what works for us

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and things that we've learned from the Lord recently

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about our money and mindset and all of that.

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So let's get into it.

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What's number one?

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Number one is it matters where you shop.

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I think like right now, especially like something

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that like our generation has to deal with

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that like wasn't really a problem

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or it wasn't really a factor in previous generations

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is that we're constantly like seeing what people purchase

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and being influenced or trying to be influenced

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as to like, you know, to make you purchase it as well.

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Pressure to buy certain things.

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And I think like that plays in.

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Like a certain type of water bottle?

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Yeah, it's like if you don't buy that water bottle,

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you're not cool or whatever.

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So I think like that's a different,

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just like a different aspect of like our lives currently

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that wasn't, didn't come into play like even 15 years ago.

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So I think like so often it's like pressure

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to like buy like name brands.

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I think there's always been pressure to have name brands.

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I think, yeah, I think so.

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But I think it's more in your face now than ever.

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I think just name brands,

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it's such of a pressured thing

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to like buy certain name brands.

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Sometimes I think that is the better choice

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in that if it's something you need to like last a while

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or you need something to be quality,

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it makes more sense to like buy the real thing

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versus buying five of the fake thing

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that then equals the same amount.

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Sometimes the fake thing is just as good as the name brand.

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Sometimes it is.

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And so I think like that's where like

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you just have to use discernment.

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But I think like just buying the name brand

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just because it's popular isn't gonna get you very far.

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Yeah, release yourself from the pressure of needing

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to buy whatever else is buying.

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I think too on top of that is like there's such a stigma.

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I feel like it's going away,

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but like I remember growing up

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like buying things from the thrift store was like.

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Well, so talk about that.

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So speaking of name brands,

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like I was with the thrift store thing,

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I think you buy like all of our kids clothes

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at thrift stores.

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I do.

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And you find a lot of name brands.

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Sure, I do.

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Yeah, but I think.

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They're way cheap.

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Yes, that is true.

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and like buying things from Walmart

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versus like Target or Whole Foods,

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like just buying things.

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Like you can still find quality stuff,

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but like buying things from Walmart,

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maybe it saves you like a dollar per item or 50 cents,

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but like it really does add up.

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actually a lot of the Walmart stuff these days is better,

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I think than Target,

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just like way cuter.

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You might have to like release yourself from the,

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well, I'm not shopping there.

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Yeah, like the expectations of,

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like you can still buy nice things that function well.

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But I think also like currently with Amazon specifically,

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I feel like it's expected

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that you just like buy new everything.

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Like, oh, I need this thing to solve this problem.

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I'm just gonna go buy it on Amazon real fast.

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But like you think back to like the way

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like our grandparents were,

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like they would think,

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they would look around and think,

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okay, what do I have that I could use

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in some creative way to fill that purpose?

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So rather than just like impulse buying it brand new

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because you can,

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like how do you,

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how could you maybe skip buying that item

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by utilizing something you already have

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or shifting, you know,

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creating something from something you already have,

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kind of getting more creative.

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Resourceful.

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So I think also we kind of touched on this,

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but like just knowing that like your identity

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doesn't lie in like what you buy or what you wear,

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like wearing Lululemon, for example,

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doesn't make you a better person, you know,

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or like make you cooler.

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I think like impulse buying though,

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I read something the other day that said,

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if you want to buy something,

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wait like 24, 45 minutes.

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48 hours before you do it.

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But also, I saw something else that was really smart,

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because I kind of got into this habit,

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I think especially leading up to a trip.

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I'd be like, oh, we need this.

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Just go order it on Amazon.

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like, oh, we need this.

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You just order it on Amazon.

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And they were like, set a day for Amazon.

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Like, Saturdays, you'll place your Amazon order

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so that it's never impulse.

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It's like, put it in your cart maybe, but think about it.

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And then don't purchase anything till Saturday.

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So you can kind of think through it or whatever day.

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But think through it.

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And it's not so much like an emotional, real quick decision.

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It's like, let's think about it.

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And then by the time that day comes, most likely,

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you're going to be like, oh, I actually

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don't really need that anymore.

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Or I don't really want that anymore,

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because it's been a few days.

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And on the resourcefulness thing,

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I like that one a lot too, because you just think,

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oh, we need that, need to replace it, need to replace it.

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But talk about what you've been doing with Ezra's pajamas.

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Because he's a third kid, so he has a lot of hand-me-downs.

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OK, so his pajamas all had holes in the toes.

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His big toe kept poking through his footie pajamas.

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Yeah, and I was like, oh, he needs new pajamas.

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And then I was like, you know what?

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No, he doesn't.

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Who cares?

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I just cut all the feet off of the jammies.

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The jammies.

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Yes, not, yes, the jammies.

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And now I think he actually likes them better,

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because he has more room to move,

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and they breathe better, because his feet don't get hot.

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And they're pajamas.

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No one sees them in pajamas.

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Yeah, no one sees, well, that's not true.

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We do sometimes.

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If we change him before we leave the house,

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then no one sees them.

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So anyway, it was something I was probably

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going to spend $30, $40 bucks on.

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And then I was like, well, we'll just wait.

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And it's fine.

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You did the same thing with Miles' pants.

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You turned them into shorts.

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Yes, every summer, they all have holes in the knees.

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And we just chop them off.

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And they're cute, I think.

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So you have a bunch of new shorts, because it's pants.

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Adler will never have pants that he grows into, but we can redo.

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So here's some tips for hand-me-downs

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with your kid's clothes.

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Yeah, I think just the last thing on that

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is fix things you can fix.

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I think we're so quick to throw away,

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like, oh, this has a hole in it, or the button fell off,

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or whatever.

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Just get rid of it when, OK, how hard is it really

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to fix a button?

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It's one thing if you just don't like the item,

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like you don't want it.

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But if you liked it, and you wore it,

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and it would be useful, just fixing things,

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rather than just so easily tossing them.

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OK, number two?

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Oh, now we get to talk about food.

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Groceries.

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And the great Costco debate.

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Yes, we always go back and forth with Costco,

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because yes, you get a better deal.

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Yes, you get more food.

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But my theory is that if we did not go to Costco,

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we would spend significantly less money on groceries.

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We would also live a more sad life.

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Yeah, you just like it for the activity.

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It's an experience.

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We go with the kids, and on a Saturday, when it's crowded

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and there's lots of samples, and we hit every single sample.

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And the kids love it, and I love it, and it's an experience.

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I know, but the samples are free, so really, you can just

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I think we've gotten a lot smarter with how we shop there.

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And I think that's the key with that place,

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because you put like four things in your cart, and they're $20 each.

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And yeah, but like the produce is a great deal.

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The fruit, our kids eat so much fruit.

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Well, some of the produce.

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I feel like you don't need to spend $15 on grapes.

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You spend like two bucks for like eight bananas.

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Yeah, no, the bananas are dirt cheap.

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I feel like our staples are bananas, apples.

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We like their butter.

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But just realizing you don't have to get everything there.

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And I think with our kids as they eat more, like they eat a lot of fruit.

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And so fruit's a good deal there.

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So I think it's worth it to go for those things.

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And yeah, I think it's those little things, though, like that,

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like maple syrup, butter, like things that are like cheaper,

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but like last a little longer.

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I feel like when we buy certain things there, yes, you get more of it.

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So maybe it's still a good deal.

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But then you have more.

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And so then you're like, oh, we have plenty of it.

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We'll just eat more of it.

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And then I don't feel like it really lasts.

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You just need to like hide half the box.

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But then we're hungry.

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Ration it out.

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But with food, I say for us when it comes to groceries

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and that's the hot topic currently because like people have seen

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grocery prices going up in the last couple of years as inflation goes up.

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And so that's something that people talk about a lot is how expensive groceries are.

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I think for us, for me, there's this kind of difficult pull between like

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like wanting to eat healthy in a certain way with standards and food

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and where it comes from, but then also like not spending a ton of money.

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So talk about that a little bit, because like I think we that's something

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that we kind of struggle, not struggle with.

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But think about a lot is we want to eat a certain way.

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We also have to stick to a budget when it comes to groceries.

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So, yeah, well, I think like typically like fresh foods

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like produce and real dried pasta, like that kind of stuff

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is typically the cheaper stuff.

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So if you kind of I think right now it's really like

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I heard it was like trending on TikTok, but like ingredient household,

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like people that are talking about how as kids they had no snack.

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Axe in their house, which this was, I feel like this was my house,

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but now it's our house. But like, you didn't have snacks growing up.

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It was like, if you wanted something, you had to make it,

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like you have the ingredients, but you have to make it.

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You can't just like pull it out of the bag.

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And I feel like that honestly is such a cheaper way to live though,

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because snacks add up so fast.

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Like pre-packaged processed stuff.

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Yeah. But like, yeah. Buying like, I don't know.

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I don't know that I would go this far just cause I feel like a bag of popcorn,

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like is not that expensive,

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but like buying the kernels to like pop it yourself to have a snack.

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Or like a jar of applesauce versus pouches of applesauce.

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Yeah, for sure. But they're way easier.

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They're easy for on the go.

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I think there's a line of like convenience versus like there are certain times

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you splurge on convenience, but I think our whole life shouldn't be,

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like our whole food life shouldn't be convenient because that's not going to

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be doable.

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Just grab an apple, give them half an apple instead of an applesauce packet,

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pouch. And they like that too.

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They also prefer to eat half the apple and then drop it on the floor and then

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throw it away and get another one.

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Okay. But anyway,

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I think like focusing on ingredients and not like pre-made stuff, you know,

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like a bag of like oats is not very expensive,

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but honestly goes a really long way. Really long way. And it's really filling.

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Oatmeal packages that you can buy. Yeah, much cheaper. Yeah. Um,

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but I think also like, um,

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there's this one Instagram account that I follow that talks about just eating

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real food and it's like, they don't do complex recipes.

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Like you don't need 30 ingredients for a recipe. It's literally like,

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just eat food, like make a protein, make a carb, just eat food.

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Like it doesn't have to be like a, a technical meal with a fancy name. Yeah.

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It doesn't have to have a name. Like it can just be food,

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which I thought was just so eyeopening and makes it so much easier. It's like,

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okay, we have chicken, we have potatoes and we have broccoli, like perfect.

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You know, it doesn't have to be fancy. Um,

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I feel like one trick that we have been doing recently is when we go out to eat,

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I feel like it's 50, 60 bucks, like for all of us, at least.

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If the kids each get something. Yeah. Yeah.

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And one thing we've been doing is Kevin's from Costco.

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Kevin's is the best. Okay.

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We buy the Kevin's things cause they're like 13 to $15 depends on if it's like

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chicken or steak or whatever, but they're like super clean.

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They're pretty clean and like super yummy and they take three minutes to put

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together. One trick is we add rice. We add rice,

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like the pre-made rice. It's usually a meat in a sauce. Yeah.

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So we'll add rice and it goes way further. Yeah.

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But it like keeps us from going out to eat and spending like way too much.

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Yeah. Those days where it's like, Oh, it's five o'clock.

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We've been running around all day. We need to eat.

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And so a lot of times we just go get something. Yeah. Like, Oh no,

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we have Kevin's at home. We can just do that. Yeah.

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So we've been like building that in almost to like remove our like eating out

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or we add it to our eating out category. So it's not from our grocery expenses.

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It's like eating out technically,

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but it's not and honestly more enjoyable than trying to eat out with all our

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kids. I feel like that saves us a lot of money and it's yummy. You're not like,

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and that's Costco. So that is Costco. No, I'm not saying Costco is bad.

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I'm just saying,

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I think we go to Costco and we like have like this many things and it's like,

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Oh, $120. Yeah. You have to be so,

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I feel like particular about what you get and try to aim for things that are like

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under $10 versus like 15 to 20.

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But then I feel like Trader Joe's is the best in terms of,

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I feel like that's probably controversial.

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That's completely different because you're getting such a smaller quantity.

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You are, but I'm just saying, I feel like we still have plenty of food. Yeah.

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And it's a much cheaper price point. So yes, you're not getting bulk,

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but I don't feel like the bulk really serves us that well anyway. Sometimes.

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Yeah. And sometimes the bulk, like you get,

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we still get in half it ends up being moldy because you didn't go through it

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fast enough. And right. Like there are certain things like, yes, the zucchini,

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the huge bag of zucchini is $5 but moldy or those carrots.

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They started sprouting. Yeah. Well,

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we accidentally bought like three of them over time.

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Not knowing we still had like two in the fridge.

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Miles was like holding a carrot and he's like,

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can I eat this and it had like roots sprouting out of it and it was slimy.

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I don't know what that means, but probably not go plant it in the ground.

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See what happens. Yeah. So that's good. Anything else on that?

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Groceries and food and I think just like having a list before you go and just

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not maybe being willing to go to different places. And yeah,

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but I think also like going too many places,

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I don't know that that really saves. I think sometimes we think like, Oh,

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well we like to get this thing from here and this thing from here.

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But I think sometimes like simpler the better,

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but having a list going in and like not like maybe you pick one extra thing,

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but don't like pick an extra thing. Every aisle, you know,

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that's going to really add up. So yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know that there's like one method necessarily,

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but those are things that I feel like have worked for us. Yeah. Cool.

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Number three budget. You gotta have a budget.

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I probably should have been the first. Yeah,

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but they weren't necessarily in priority or I would say our last one's the most.

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important. But other than that, take them. No, no, no. Number five is the most

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important. Oh yes, you're right. I thought you meant the second one. But the first four are in no particular order.

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But budgeting is important. We've talked a little bit. I used to run the budget. You're way better at it. You do it now.

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Well, just, yeah, I think like there's that's that stigma of like the men do the budgeting and the women have to call to ask

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permission to spend money. I don't know if everyone feels that way. We felt that way. Um, but yeah, now it's the other way

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around. And it's worked way better for us. Well, yeah, just in that, like one, I just don't think like, I really enjoy like, the

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process of like allotting money to certain things. I did not. You didn't really enjoy it. But I also like can get really like

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obsessive about like, where's that going? You know, and so I don't know. It's just like a big game for me. It's fun.

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It's been probably a year now of you doing it. And I think it's been a lot better for us financially and probably better for

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marriage. Maybe we've had less tension or disagreements about money since you've taken it over.

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Well, also, I'm the one that like spends all the money and that like, I'm buying diapers. I'm buying groceries. I'm buying so like

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before I had no idea what was even going on. Yeah, that's true. Because you were managing it, but I was the one spending it. So we

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didn't have like a lot of communication on that. And I think it makes more sense for us that it's me because I'm the one dealing with it

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But yeah, I think like tracking your money is important. I feel like we looked back on things like, Oh, remember when we got that chunk

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of money or whatever? And we're like, I don't know, like, what did we do with it? I don't know. And maybe we did something

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important. And we just can't remember. But I think now you're thinking for a long time. Yeah, for a long time, we just kind of

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didn't we were just kind of passive with our money. I don't think that's a really good way to be. But I think also like it's

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something you have to learn you have to like come to and figure out and I think just in the last year and a half, like I feel

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like we've really started to like learn kind of how to handle money and like what it should look like and what our posture

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should be and how to be frugal. Yeah, I don't know. So just talk briefly, because we have talked about before, but just yeah, what

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you do budget wise.

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Yeah, so we've been using the every dollar app, which is the Dave Ramsey thing, but it's, it's free. You don't need the premium

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version, every dollar needs to be assigned to a category. So there's nothing it's not like, Oh, we have 400 leftover. It's like, no,

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but where's it going? You know, like, is it going in savings? Are you putting it towards something? Or, you know, what is the

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purpose of it? It can't just like be extra. Yeah, because that's not beneficial. And then you just spend it most likely. So I

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think that's been really helpful for us. Because it also tells us like, okay, where do we have gaps? Or where do we have

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excess or, you know, whatever, and you can adjust it as you go through the month, maybe you had extra, or you allotted a

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certain amount, and you didn't spend that. So you kind of redo it each month, I redo it like throughout the month, because

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like, maybe we planned on I don't know $100 for diapers, and then we only spent 90 or whatever. So then you can take that 10 and

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put it elsewhere. And it seems I feel like you think I go 10 bucks, that's nothing. But if you do it 10 times, it's 100. I feel

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like that's something I've been having to learn is sometimes I feel like it's only beneficial if I'm putting like 200 or 300 or 400

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into savings or but like the little numbers do count and they add up.

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Yeah. So if you do have like 10 extra dollars a month, you like put it in savings?

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Yeah, I mean, if that's how it works out, but I think that's just kind of always adjusting. But I think it's also something you

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have to be like paying attention to throughout the month.

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So you just say it's important for people to spend some time tracking their money and knowing where it's going. And that's being a

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good steward of what you have.

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Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think like, checking in on on it like once a week, even like just to see like, where are we at?

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So for you, now that you've done it, would you say is there a line where you feel like, oh, I'm obsessing over this? Or I have a good

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amount of awareness? Like, is there a balance between I need to be aware, but I don't want to be thinking about it all the time?

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Yeah, healthy either.

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Well, I think like, for me, a lot of times I am thinking about it, because I don't want to, like, I need to know how much is left

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so I can stay in the budget. But I think like, automating things like, like savings to just like automate savings, if it's going to be the

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same every month, then you're not thinking about it. It's just happening and benefiting you. But you're not like having to spend time

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thinking about it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where the line would be for that.

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It's not something you do every day.

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No, not every day. Maybe once a week. That's good. Maybe a little more often than that.

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I would say at least once a week.

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It doesn't need to be a full time job.

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I'd say that's a good I'd say at least once a week, if you're looking at your budget aware of where things are going that month.

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And especially like before you buy groceries again for the month, like knowing how much you have. So it's not just like gone by week

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two, because that's a bummer.

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So we recommend rice for the rest of the month, rice, the huge 30 pound bag you bought from Costco.

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Number four, find ways to bring in extra money.

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Side hustle. I think.

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Yeah, I think personally, I always think like, how can I bring in extra money without like actually going out and applying for like a real job?

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Like, how could you get creative like with your own talents and abilities?

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It's kind of on the side, like in your own time versus like actually adding to your calendar

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or your schedule.

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And I'm just thinking off the top of my head, we've both done a lot of side hustles throughout

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the years.

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Yeah, and I think more at different times than others, like if we're saving for something

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specific or.

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Yeah, and it's a balance of trade because like some of them take time away from family

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and so like I think we kind of trade off with how we do it too.

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That's something for us I think that's like really, I feel like time for us is like really

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important where we're not willing to give up time for a lot of things.

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Yeah, I mean, we could both be working an insane amount of hours a week and make a lot

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of extra money.

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But what's the trade off is that we're not spending time with our family.

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Yeah, then you don't see your kids or they're with babysitters or yeah.

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So I think that's.

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But talk about some of the, I mean, as long as I've known you, you've been doing creative

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things to make money.

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I like making money.

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Even, and some of them you still do.

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Like one thing that you do now that you did back when we first started dating was flip

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furniture.

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You'll find a thrift store or on marketplace or on someone's curb.

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I can't even how many times that you will just be driving around and you'll come home

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with a piece of furniture that you found on the side of a curb that someone was throwing

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away.

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You pulled a mirror out of our neighbor's trash can the other day.

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No, it was an old window.

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It was like a really old window and they just had it in the trash.

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It was like in like the glass was not broken.

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Like you can just throw that away.

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So many times you just come home with something in your car that you found.

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But what's really cool about that is you like see the potential and stuff and you can flip

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it for money and you'll paint it, sand it, whatever you do.

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But you've been doing that literally as long as I've known you and you still do it.

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Yeah, I took a couple years off I feel like.

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There's like three things in our garage right now that you're working on that you're going

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to sell.

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But it's cool because it is something you enjoy, right?

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Well, yeah, it's something that really, if you learn how to do it right, it doesn't take

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all that much time, but I feel like the return is really good.

469
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So talk about that because I think part of this is like if you're going to spend extra

470
00:21:58.120 --> 00:22:02.520
time outside of your normal job and routine to make money, you should try to do something

471
00:22:02.520 --> 00:22:05.840
that aligns with your gifts and talents and what you're passionate about.

472
00:22:05.840 --> 00:22:06.840
Yeah, sure.

473
00:22:06.840 --> 00:22:08.840
For me, that's something that like obviously I enjoy.

474
00:22:08.840 --> 00:22:09.840
It's kind of hereditary.

475
00:22:09.840 --> 00:22:10.840
I feel like.

476
00:22:10.840 --> 00:22:11.840
It's your parents.

477
00:22:11.840 --> 00:22:12.840
Do similar things.

478
00:22:12.840 --> 00:22:13.840
We're a long line of trash stealers.

479
00:22:13.840 --> 00:22:14.840
Yeah.

480
00:22:14.840 --> 00:22:18.600
Well, I think it's cool because like you, I don't have that eye where like you can see

481
00:22:18.600 --> 00:22:21.360
the beauty in a piece of trash.

482
00:22:22.360 --> 00:22:26.280
I mean, how many times, not all pieces of trash, how many times have we been driving

483
00:22:26.280 --> 00:22:30.800
around and you'll see a house and you and you will say something like, oh, that house

484
00:22:30.800 --> 00:22:32.040
is so cute.

485
00:22:32.040 --> 00:22:36.400
And I look at it, I'm like, it looks like I could push it and it would fall over.

486
00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:38.400
But like someone needs to burn it to the ground.

487
00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:39.400
Like it could be.

488
00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:40.400
Yeah.

489
00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:42.760
But you, but you can see past that and the potential and you do the same thing with a

490
00:22:42.760 --> 00:22:43.760
piece of furniture.

491
00:22:43.760 --> 00:22:44.760
Yeah.

492
00:22:44.760 --> 00:22:48.920
Um, and so I think that's something that you're naturally good at and passionate about and

493
00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:51.960
you found a way to make some extra money doing it.

494
00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:52.960
Yeah.

495
00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:57.600
And like for me, I've, some of those who like coaching is something that I do as a side

496
00:22:57.600 --> 00:22:59.880
hustle outside of my normal job.

497
00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:00.880
Yeah.

498
00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:01.880
Like teaching, coaching.

499
00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:02.880
I feel like there's both things that you.

500
00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:03.880
Yeah.

501
00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:06.960
But I love sports and I love kids and I love to coach.

502
00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:11.640
And so I've found a way to make it work with my normal schedule and it's a good extra money

503
00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:17.200
for us, but it's also a great outlet for me and something I enjoy and um, something that

504
00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:21.920
like the kids kind of will come watch and they enjoy it and, um, and it's part time,

505
00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:26.240
it's seasonal, you know, so it's not someone doing every day and it's literally in the

506
00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:30.760
afternoons, which that's something like anybody could do really in that if there's a sport

507
00:23:30.760 --> 00:23:35.400
that they're knowledgeable about in some regard, like, yeah, look at, start in middle school,

508
00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:39.680
public schools, public school, middle school sports, wherever you live, there are a lot

509
00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:41.520
of schools are always looking for coaches.

510
00:23:41.520 --> 00:23:42.520
Yeah.

511
00:23:42.520 --> 00:23:43.520
They're short seasons.

512
00:23:43.520 --> 00:23:46.040
They pay well and they do all sports good.

513
00:23:46.040 --> 00:23:47.040
I've done all sorts.

514
00:23:47.040 --> 00:23:52.520
I've done door dash quite a bit to make extra money on and off when like last year, last

515
00:23:52.520 --> 00:23:53.520
summer was it?

516
00:23:53.520 --> 00:23:56.160
Our fridge went out randomly.

517
00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:57.160
Yep.

518
00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:59.400
Just all the food had to throw it all away.

519
00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:02.640
So I door dashed for like a week to make extra money to help buy a new fridge.

520
00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:03.760
And so I stopped.

521
00:24:03.760 --> 00:24:05.720
And so it's not like I'm doing it all the time or obsessed with it.

522
00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:06.720
But you got it started.

523
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:09.760
And so now anytime you can just jump back in, even though you literally set it up like

524
00:24:09.760 --> 00:24:10.760
five years ago.

525
00:24:10.760 --> 00:24:11.760
Yeah.

526
00:24:11.760 --> 00:24:14.120
You could literally just jump back in at any point, which is nice.

527
00:24:14.120 --> 00:24:15.120
Yeah.

528
00:24:15.120 --> 00:24:17.600
I would like get the kids to sleep and then go do an hour.

529
00:24:17.600 --> 00:24:18.600
Yeah.

530
00:24:18.600 --> 00:24:19.600
Yeah.

531
00:24:19.600 --> 00:24:20.600
Or during nap time or whatever.

532
00:24:20.600 --> 00:24:21.600
So there's things.

533
00:24:21.600 --> 00:24:22.600
I don't know.

534
00:24:22.600 --> 00:24:23.600
You had a list of them.

535
00:24:23.600 --> 00:24:24.600
What are some other ideas?

536
00:24:24.600 --> 00:24:25.600
Yeah.

537
00:24:25.600 --> 00:24:26.600
I guess like just some questions you could ask yourself is like, what are your gifts

538
00:24:26.600 --> 00:24:27.600
and talents?

539
00:24:27.600 --> 00:24:31.960
Like what kind of things are you good at that maybe most people aren't?

540
00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:37.920
But how could you fill a need that others might have with that gift or talent?

541
00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:40.960
So a list we kind of came up with and it could be a starting point.

542
00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:43.360
It could be, you know, it could turn into something big.

543
00:24:43.600 --> 00:24:48.480
But even like lawn mowing, like you could eventually even turn it into a like full-blown

544
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:54.320
landscaping business, like handyman services, DoorDash, Uber, flipping furniture or like

545
00:24:54.320 --> 00:24:59.960
things like items like technology or, you know, like, I don't know, whatever.

546
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.060
thing and improve it. Yeah. Or like, or even just finding like,

547
00:25:03.060 --> 00:25:05.980
think about what people live, leave on curbs. Like, yeah. And

548
00:25:05.980 --> 00:25:08.960
if like people, I see bikes all the time, maybe you could fix up

549
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:11.420
a bike and flip it. Like, yeah, there's a guy in our

550
00:25:11.420 --> 00:25:14.260
neighborhood that has like 50 bikes hanging in his garage.

551
00:25:14.580 --> 00:25:17.640
Have you seen him? They're like lined up like this. He must like

552
00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:21.100
fix them or something or hoard them. He maybe does. I can't

553
00:25:21.100 --> 00:25:24.500
imagine he rides them all. But there's people that literally

554
00:25:24.500 --> 00:25:26.700
make full time livings, like looking at the thrift store,

555
00:25:26.700 --> 00:25:29.260
finding things that are worth more than what they're selling

556
00:25:29.260 --> 00:25:32.100
it for. And then literally just throw it on eBay or yard sales.

557
00:25:32.100 --> 00:25:35.100
People do that. Yeah. They literally make full time money

558
00:25:35.100 --> 00:25:38.460
doing that. Um, something that takes a little bit more time,

559
00:25:38.820 --> 00:25:42.040
but is can be really profitable is like starting a blog or even

560
00:25:42.040 --> 00:25:45.820
a YouTube channel. Um, you could offer cleaning services, car

561
00:25:45.820 --> 00:25:50.240
detailing, organization services. The other thing we

562
00:25:50.240 --> 00:25:52.580
didn't talk about this ahead of time, but, um, the other thing

563
00:25:52.580 --> 00:25:55.980
we've been doing a little bit recently is like investing. And

564
00:25:55.980 --> 00:25:59.380
so I think that's all in this too, is like, if you do happen

565
00:25:59.380 --> 00:26:03.740
to get some extra money or, um, like, what can you do with that?

566
00:26:04.140 --> 00:26:07.220
That would profit a good return. And there's all sorts of

567
00:26:07.220 --> 00:26:10.580
different investments in like some that give you money in 50

568
00:26:10.580 --> 00:26:13.860
years. And some of them that give you money now. Um, if you

569
00:26:13.860 --> 00:26:17.580
like to bake, you could do like a cottage food license, get like

570
00:26:17.580 --> 00:26:23.940
the certification and like make sourdough or baked goods. Yeah.

571
00:26:24.900 --> 00:26:27.740
What's that process like? I don't know, but you have to look

572
00:26:27.740 --> 00:26:29.700
into it. I don't know if they want to like come look at your

573
00:26:29.700 --> 00:26:34.140
kitchen or what makes you clean. I don't know. I'm not sure, but

574
00:26:34.140 --> 00:26:36.180
I feel like that's something you could totally do from home. If

575
00:26:36.180 --> 00:26:39.220
like you're good at making bread or good at baking or anything

576
00:26:39.220 --> 00:26:44.220
like that. Um, even like tutoring or like virtual assistant type

577
00:26:44.220 --> 00:26:47.420
stuff, like just assisting people that have big, larger

578
00:26:47.460 --> 00:26:53.260
businesses. Yeah. Um, teaching like piano or guitar. I don't

579
00:26:53.260 --> 00:26:55.780
know. Um, even like life coaching, I actually think

580
00:26:55.780 --> 00:26:58.460
that's something you would be good at is like just taking on a

581
00:26:58.460 --> 00:27:02.300
few like clients throughout your week where it's like, you're

582
00:27:02.300 --> 00:27:04.140
helping them work through big things.

583
00:27:04.140 --> 00:27:05.420
Is that a certification you can get? Life coaching?

584
00:27:05.460 --> 00:27:06.100
Yeah. I'm pretty sure.

585
00:27:06.620 --> 00:27:09.180
Yeah. Things that are flexible that, um, you can work into your

586
00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:11.900
normal schedule that bring in extra money that, and again,

587
00:27:11.900 --> 00:27:13.580
that align with what you're already good at.

588
00:27:13.580 --> 00:27:16.500
Yeah. Or like things you enjoy. So it doesn't feel like a big

589
00:27:16.500 --> 00:27:19.540
thing. And if you have kids like thinking through like, how could

590
00:27:19.540 --> 00:27:24.900
I do something that the kids can be around while I'm doing it?

591
00:27:24.900 --> 00:27:26.860
It doesn't have to be like, okay, kids, I have to leave.

592
00:27:26.900 --> 00:27:30.020
Yeah. Cause you'll be in the garage, um, painting furniture

593
00:27:30.020 --> 00:27:32.020
and they're riding their scooters in the driveway or

594
00:27:32.020 --> 00:27:32.220
whatever.

595
00:27:32.220 --> 00:27:34.180
It's a little bit of a struggle, but we're trying. We're doing,

596
00:27:35.260 --> 00:27:40.020
we're trying our best. Yeah. Um, one thing that we meant, we

597
00:27:40.020 --> 00:27:42.660
forgot to mention earlier that we wanted to touch on was just

598
00:27:42.660 --> 00:27:46.100
kind of in our process of like working through how to handle

599
00:27:46.100 --> 00:27:49.260
our money. Just feeling like we've always been like, okay, we

600
00:27:49.260 --> 00:27:52.700
need to make more money, but also like, why would God bless

601
00:27:52.700 --> 00:27:56.340
us with more income when we can't even handle what he's

602
00:27:56.340 --> 00:27:59.300
given us? Yeah. I think that's kind of been a realization and

603
00:27:59.300 --> 00:28:03.180
not to say he wouldn't bless us with more, but just like, how

604
00:28:03.180 --> 00:28:06.620
do we really handle well what he's given us so that we could

605
00:28:06.620 --> 00:28:07.220
handle more.

606
00:28:07.260 --> 00:28:09.900
Yeah. That's a good transition. So let's talk to number five,

607
00:28:09.900 --> 00:28:12.740
cause I think this is the most important one and hopefully

608
00:28:12.820 --> 00:28:16.220
people are still watching at this point. Um, but yeah, I

609
00:28:16.220 --> 00:28:20.140
think just how, and this is something that you read a book

610
00:28:20.140 --> 00:28:23.060
on recently, and you can talk about that, but just how should

611
00:28:23.060 --> 00:28:27.700
believers view money and the money that we have, like just a

612
00:28:27.700 --> 00:28:31.340
mindset shift of doesn't necessarily matter if you have a

613
00:28:31.340 --> 00:28:34.260
lot or not. It'd be like, how do we view it? And I think the

614
00:28:34.260 --> 00:28:37.460
answer to that question is you view it as the Lord's and it's,

615
00:28:37.460 --> 00:28:40.580
it's not our money. It's what he's, it's his, it's what he's

616
00:28:40.580 --> 00:28:44.060
given to us and entrusted us with. And when you view it that

617
00:28:44.060 --> 00:28:47.180
way, I think in a lot of ways it takes pressure off, but it's

618
00:28:47.180 --> 00:28:50.860
also just like a good realization to have. And so I

619
00:28:50.860 --> 00:28:54.340
love what you said of like gratitude, like having, even

620
00:28:54.340 --> 00:28:55.980
when you feel like you don't have enough, you wish you had

621
00:28:55.980 --> 00:28:59.380
more, more flexibility, more room, but like, like I do have

622
00:28:59.380 --> 00:29:03.260
enough and like being grateful for that. And, um, I've heard a

623
00:29:03.260 --> 00:29:05.300
pastor of church said that before. I was like, if you're

624
00:29:05.300 --> 00:29:07.660
not grateful for what basically you said, if you're not grateful

625
00:29:07.660 --> 00:29:11.860
for what you have, why would you be blessed with, with more? And

626
00:29:11.860 --> 00:29:16.060
so that's not why you should ultimately be grateful, but just

627
00:29:16.060 --> 00:29:19.580
having that idea. So just changing that mindset of, um,

628
00:29:19.740 --> 00:29:22.420
this is the Lord's money. And, and then I would say the last

629
00:29:22.420 --> 00:29:25.020
thing is like, so the whole topic of this was like, how do

630
00:29:25.020 --> 00:29:28.420
we survive? How do we be more frugal? How do we, and this is

631
00:29:28.420 --> 00:29:31.700
going to sound so counter intuitive, but like give

632
00:29:32.420 --> 00:29:35.820
generously, even when you don't think you can. And that sounds

633
00:29:35.820 --> 00:29:39.300
so backwards. And for me, it took me so long to, to get over

634
00:29:39.300 --> 00:29:42.540
that. But like we, for the longest time, we didn't really

635
00:29:42.580 --> 00:29:43.700
early on in our marriage.

636
00:29:43.740 --> 00:29:46.020
Well, we just thought like, Oh, we don't have enough to give,

637
00:29:46.060 --> 00:29:48.460
but yet we probably bought other things that we shouldn't have

638
00:29:48.500 --> 00:29:51.060
done. We shouldn't have bought. And we could have used that

639
00:29:51.060 --> 00:29:55.260
money to give. But I think like, yeah, I think so often it's

640
00:29:55.260 --> 00:29:58.580
like, Oh, we don't have the money to give. But I think the

641
00:29:58.580 --> 00:30:00.100
Bible talks about giving so often.

642
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.160
And like generously giving yeah

643
00:30:02.840 --> 00:30:06.320
Generously giving and I think if we even if we don't have enough

644
00:30:06.760 --> 00:30:09.160
But say we want to give like 200 bucks a month

645
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:13.080
Like maybe we need to find a side hustle to make $200 a month to cover that, you know

646
00:30:13.080 --> 00:30:16.240
Like if it's that important like you feel like yeah

647
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:19.480
I mean if the Bible talks about giving being so important

648
00:30:19.520 --> 00:30:22.080
Then like why should be putting in the work to make it happen

649
00:30:22.080 --> 00:30:27.240
And I think we view it you were talking about like passive use that word earlier. I just came in

650
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:32.640
A lot of times we feel like tithing or giving is this passive thing where you set it up and you forget about it

651
00:30:33.360 --> 00:30:37.880
You're like, well, I'm doing my 10% I'm good and that's great like 100% do that

652
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.640
give 10% but then when needs come up and you hear about a friend or

653
00:30:42.360 --> 00:30:45.040
if the Lord tugs on your heart and you feel like I

654
00:30:45.360 --> 00:30:51.600
We should give to that at least a little bit or whatever like do it like act on that like and I think that's something

655
00:30:51.600 --> 00:30:55.080
We've been trying to grow and it's funny cuz you read this book like a month ago

656
00:30:55.080 --> 00:30:58.900
and then we were we had a long conversation about giving and

657
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:05.520
Something that you really like to do and are good at it is like meals for people. I try it's feel like it's a whole thing

658
00:31:05.520 --> 00:31:10.740
It's right. Yeah, but like and then we were like, well, man, whenever a need comes up and we can make somebody meal

659
00:31:10.740 --> 00:31:17.120
Let's just do it. And then this past month, I think it was like we made more meals for people so many meals

660
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:20.780
Ever before so I was like the Lord was kind of like, all right do it

661
00:31:21.060 --> 00:31:26.780
We had so many opportunities and what I love about you though is like you have this big heart where it's like like serve serve

662
00:31:26.780 --> 00:31:28.780
serve and like here's a need let's do it and

663
00:31:29.060 --> 00:31:34.140
I think the Lord sees that and and I don't know that again not financial experts

664
00:31:34.140 --> 00:31:39.500
But like if you feel led by the Lord to give and you do it like you're not gonna run out of money, right?

665
00:31:39.500 --> 00:31:43.060
No, I had someone say one time like you'll never be poor

666
00:31:43.660 --> 00:31:49.460
Because you gave and again and like sure I can't guarantee that but I think it's just the premise of like you're yeah

667
00:31:49.460 --> 00:31:55.420
If you're partnering with the Holy Spirit with finances and the Lord's leading you to give like yeah, and you're not gonna yeah

668
00:31:55.420 --> 00:32:00.940
You'll have you're never gonna be harmed from giving I guess is what there's and there's so much like blessing that comes with that

669
00:32:00.940 --> 00:32:05.680
And it's just it's great. It's a fun thing to do like being able to bless people is awesome

670
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:10.860
Well in this book that I read recently, it's called simple money rich life, and it's yeah talk about easy read

671
00:32:10.860 --> 00:32:15.740
I mean, they also have a podcast. I read it in like two days because I thought it was so interesting

672
00:32:15.740 --> 00:32:19.580
And you're not like a big reader, but you did I've been working on that

673
00:32:19.580 --> 00:32:24.420
I've got like four books this year, which that is huge except I was feeling like oh, it's still the beginning of the year

674
00:32:24.420 --> 00:32:27.700
It's not but four books is a record for me

675
00:32:27.700 --> 00:32:32.940
So we it's cuz we bought book lights we did cuz our light is always off because there's a baby in our room

676
00:32:32.940 --> 00:32:34.940
So we're like trying to keep him asleep. So

677
00:32:35.540 --> 00:32:39.900
Made us good readers. It's like five bucks on Amazon. Yeah, it's very much worth it. It's good

678
00:32:39.900 --> 00:32:42.780
It's the only reason I've read but you're the one yeah, they just talk about

679
00:32:43.300 --> 00:32:44.380
um

680
00:32:44.380 --> 00:32:50.060
Like having a seed fund they call it and basically like you're allotting like in your budget like in your categories

681
00:32:50.220 --> 00:32:55.340
There's seed fund and it you know, you could put in five dollars a month ten dollars a month

682
00:32:55.340 --> 00:32:57.340
I don't know whatever you want and

683
00:32:57.740 --> 00:32:59.900
Then every time a need comes up

684
00:32:59.900 --> 00:33:05.420
So you need to take someone a meal or like even they were even counting like a birthday party or I don't know

685
00:33:05.420 --> 00:33:08.820
What else like just someone who needs money or some meal?

686
00:33:09.820 --> 00:33:12.700
Or I don't know maybe their kid needs clothes

687
00:33:12.700 --> 00:33:16.880
I don't know any sort of need that you could ever want to fill you just take it from that fund

688
00:33:17.340 --> 00:33:22.300
So it's like sitting there waiting almost. Yeah for you work that in your budget, right?

689
00:33:22.300 --> 00:33:25.700
So it's like in your budget to add to it every month, but then it's just like a savings

690
00:33:26.260 --> 00:33:33.260
Account so then you can kind of just like freely give from that. Yeah, knowing that's exactly what it's such a good idea

691
00:33:33.540 --> 00:33:37.060
Because I think before it was like, okay. Yes, we would love to do that

692
00:33:37.060 --> 00:33:41.700
But it's gonna come out of our grocery amount that is for us or it's gonna come out of our miscellaneous

693
00:33:42.380 --> 00:33:45.700
You know, and that is and it's all the same pot of money, right?

694
00:33:45.700 --> 00:33:51.220
But it just it helps with that mindset shift. Oh, I'm money is for I'm not gonna touch this

695
00:33:51.220 --> 00:33:56.180
this is for giving and then when you it's and then it's almost like you hear something come up like pool I got money for

696
00:33:56.180 --> 00:33:57.620
that and

697
00:33:57.620 --> 00:34:01.340
Yeah, it helps with that. Yeah giving mindset. I love that again

698
00:34:01.340 --> 00:34:04.260
Yeah, like you could literally even just give someone cash, you know

699
00:34:04.380 --> 00:34:08.460
Like you could build it up or you could deplete it every month whatever but and pray about it

700
00:34:08.460 --> 00:34:11.620
It's like Lord. I have this money who needs it this month

701
00:34:11.739 --> 00:34:16.820
Like I want to give like and then see who the Lord highlights and maybe it's not even a need that was voiced

702
00:34:16.820 --> 00:34:18.820
And that's really cool, too

703
00:34:18.940 --> 00:34:22.699
God told me to give you this money and they're like, oh my gosh, you know, like I've heard so many stories

704
00:34:22.699 --> 00:34:27.780
I feel like like people that are like I needed five hundred and ten dollars and sounds like here's five on I don't know if

705
00:34:27.780 --> 00:34:32.620
You need this but here's not only happens because people have the mindset of this is the Lord's money

706
00:34:32.620 --> 00:34:39.940
Yeah, what should I do with it? And when people are partnering with the Holy Spirit with their finances, there's such cool things that happen

707
00:34:39.940 --> 00:34:45.060
Yeah, no that that book. I would definitely recommend reading it or listening to their podcast if you're not a reader

708
00:34:45.060 --> 00:34:48.820
I guess but even if money interests you at all, I feel like it's an easy read

709
00:34:48.820 --> 00:34:53.460
Yeah, but it's not so much like about like the numbers of money. It's more so just like our posture

710
00:34:53.460 --> 00:34:55.460
I feel like and just how do you

711
00:34:55.699 --> 00:35:00.020
And their whole premise is like make more. What is it make more?

712
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.840
or save more, give more, yeah.

713
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.040
So their goal is to make as much as they possibly can,

714
00:35:06.040 --> 00:35:09.080
but simply so they can give more and more away.

715
00:35:09.080 --> 00:35:11.880
I think they give 41% of their income away right now

716
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:14.360
or something, and not in a way to brag, but.

717
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:16.280
They're giving percentage every year.

718
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.000
Yeah, I think they give their age,

719
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:21.580
is what they felt called to do.

720
00:35:21.580 --> 00:35:24.040
But they're giving so much of their income away,

721
00:35:24.040 --> 00:35:26.320
but not from a bragging standpoint,

722
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.300
but of like, look what God could do.

723
00:35:28.300 --> 00:35:32.260
We can give away that much, and he still provides for us.

724
00:35:32.260 --> 00:35:34.300
Ultimately, like what we were talking about before,

725
00:35:34.300 --> 00:35:36.580
it's like we're just like managers of all this stuff.

726
00:35:36.580 --> 00:35:38.060
It's not really ours.

727
00:35:38.060 --> 00:35:40.640
And I think that comes into play

728
00:35:40.640 --> 00:35:41.980
in both the positive and the negative

729
00:35:41.980 --> 00:35:46.140
of like how disrespectful to be like, this isn't enough.

730
00:35:46.140 --> 00:35:48.560
Like I don't have enough, when it's not even ours.

731
00:35:48.560 --> 00:35:50.700
Like we're just managing it for someone else.

732
00:35:50.700 --> 00:35:51.540
Yeah, exactly.

733
00:35:51.540 --> 00:35:53.880
But then also from the positive standpoint

734
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:55.740
of like being grateful for like,

735
00:35:55.740 --> 00:35:57.860
wow, you've given us so much.

736
00:35:58.380 --> 00:35:59.660
I think that book talks about like,

737
00:35:59.660 --> 00:36:03.340
I thought it was like if you make 50,000 or more

738
00:36:03.340 --> 00:36:05.820
or something, you're in the top like 4% of the world.

739
00:36:05.820 --> 00:36:07.860
Or if you're in a climate controlled room,

740
00:36:07.860 --> 00:36:10.340
like you're so blessed compared to the rest of the world.

741
00:36:10.340 --> 00:36:12.220
I think that was just such good perspective too,

742
00:36:12.220 --> 00:36:13.300
of like, we might feel like,

743
00:36:13.300 --> 00:36:15.780
oh, I really wanna buy that thing, but I just can't.

744
00:36:15.780 --> 00:36:17.460
And it's like, but look at what you already have.

745
00:36:17.460 --> 00:36:18.860
Like your laundry's piling up.

746
00:36:18.860 --> 00:36:20.140
Yeah, you have so many clothes.

747
00:36:20.140 --> 00:36:23.140
Like your dishes are dirty.

748
00:36:23.140 --> 00:36:26.420
Yeah, you have people and you have food to eat.

749
00:36:26.420 --> 00:36:30.380
And I think like that's such a good adjustment.

750
00:36:30.380 --> 00:36:31.220
Yeah.

751
00:36:31.220 --> 00:36:32.220
I thought it was really helpful for us.

752
00:36:32.220 --> 00:36:34.300
Attitude, heart, posture of gratitude

753
00:36:34.300 --> 00:36:35.900
and empathy and perspective.

754
00:36:35.900 --> 00:36:37.340
All that's really important.

755
00:36:37.340 --> 00:36:38.180
That's good.

756
00:36:38.180 --> 00:36:40.220
Deuteronomy 15, 10 says,

757
00:36:40.220 --> 00:36:42.980
"'Give generously to him and do so without a grudging heart.

758
00:36:42.980 --> 00:36:45.020
"'Then because of this, the Lord your God will bless you

759
00:36:45.020 --> 00:36:47.500
"'in all your work and in everything you put your hand to.'"

760
00:36:47.500 --> 00:36:48.340
So I love that too.

761
00:36:48.340 --> 00:36:49.460
It's like, why are we giving?

762
00:36:49.460 --> 00:36:52.300
We're not giving so that we'll be blessed

763
00:36:52.300 --> 00:36:54.100
or giving because we have to.

764
00:36:54.100 --> 00:36:56.540
It's like giving because the Lord told you to

765
00:36:56.540 --> 00:36:58.140
and you want to help somebody else out.

766
00:36:58.140 --> 00:37:01.180
And I love the word generously.

767
00:37:01.180 --> 00:37:02.700
Even when you feel like you can't or you shouldn't

768
00:37:02.700 --> 00:37:05.060
or you don't know, but you feel led to, just do it.

769
00:37:05.060 --> 00:37:05.900
Yeah.

770
00:37:05.900 --> 00:37:07.220
And I think there's been a few times

771
00:37:07.220 --> 00:37:09.140
where someone has given like to us

772
00:37:09.140 --> 00:37:11.500
in a way that is like overly generous.

773
00:37:11.500 --> 00:37:12.780
Like where it just feels like,

774
00:37:12.780 --> 00:37:14.500
oh my gosh, I don't even know how to like thank you.

775
00:37:14.500 --> 00:37:16.660
Like that's a huge gift.

776
00:37:16.660 --> 00:37:18.300
And I think like that goes a really long way.

777
00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:19.780
And it's so fun to be able to do that for other people.

778
00:37:19.780 --> 00:37:20.620
Yeah.

779
00:37:20.620 --> 00:37:21.460
It really is fun.

780
00:37:21.460 --> 00:37:23.020
Just like write them a check for whatever.

781
00:37:23.060 --> 00:37:23.900
Yeah.

782
00:37:23.900 --> 00:37:24.740
We've been able to do that a few times

783
00:37:24.740 --> 00:37:25.980
kind of in like a tithing way.

784
00:37:25.980 --> 00:37:26.940
And it's just.

785
00:37:26.940 --> 00:37:27.780
People have done it to us.

786
00:37:27.780 --> 00:37:28.620
Yeah.

787
00:37:28.620 --> 00:37:29.460
It's just, yeah, it's really cool.

788
00:37:29.460 --> 00:37:30.300
Very rewarding.

789
00:37:30.300 --> 00:37:31.300
So yeah, good.

790
00:37:31.300 --> 00:37:32.140
Anything else?

791
00:37:32.140 --> 00:37:33.820
If you got nothing else from this,

792
00:37:33.820 --> 00:37:35.020
the last point was good.

793
00:37:35.020 --> 00:37:35.860
Yeah.

794
00:37:35.860 --> 00:37:38.300
More than, more important than our Costco debate.

795
00:37:38.300 --> 00:37:39.260
Yeah.

796
00:37:39.260 --> 00:37:40.100
All right.

797
00:37:40.100 --> 00:37:40.940
Well, awesome.

798
00:37:40.940 --> 00:37:42.580
Well, thank you for watching the Outnumbered Podcast

799
00:37:42.580 --> 00:37:43.700
with Joey and Allie.

800
00:37:43.700 --> 00:37:44.540
We'll be back.

801
00:37:44.540 --> 00:37:45.500
See you next time.

802
00:37:45.500 --> 00:37:46.340
Yeah.
