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whether or how she takes care of herself in other ways,

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like spiritually, intellectually,

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kind of all the different parts of herself

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aside from physically?

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Well, she's a pretty busy lady

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because she's a pediatric nurse practitioner.

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So she's right underneath the doctor.

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So she's got a pretty heavy workload.

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So she's more or less like a nine to fiver

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or kind of like a eight to four or whatever,

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something like that.

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So she works all day long, Monday through Friday.

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She, I don't, I mean, like,

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I mean, as far as I guys think about like you guys,

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I feel like I'm probably the less,

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I'm like the less holy out of a lot of you guys here.

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You know, I'm trying to pray more and do more

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and get more involved and live it more than I ever have.

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But I think she goes to church on occasions.

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She does pray at night,

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at least that's what she tells me.

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You know, she goes out to eat a lot.

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You know, she drinks a little bit,

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but it's not an issue

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because I would have ran away right away.

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So alcohol is not really an issue.

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She doesn't do really like any physical activity.

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She's kind of more like a dinner party gal,

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you know, kind of hangs out with friends

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and go wine tasting, that kind of stuff.

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I mean, she's awesome.

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She's kind, you know,

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but I look at taking care of yourself

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as being a little selfish.

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You know, you gotta make the sacrifices

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and take the time to go to the gym and stuff like that

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or walk or something.

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So I don't know.

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I think she's doing good.

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Average lady, you know, pretty cool.

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But the eating habits, you know,

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I think she's kind of ignorant of the nutritional stuff,

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you know, and like the bad habits over the years.

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She was married before for about five to six years.

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So, and then the last couple of years of her marriage

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turned pretty cold.

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So I was kind of thinking like maybe this snowball effect

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of, you know, just getting sad and then it got cold.

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And then she even told me at one point

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she gave up on dating.

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And then one of her friends just like

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made her download Hinge.

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And she like landed on me.

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And like, I felt like I got pretty lucky

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to kind of land on her

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because we're really close in culture

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and thought process and growing up and stuff.

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It's pretty close, which is nice.

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It's like, we're super nice.

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Is that the one thing that you're like most attracted

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about like what's,

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if you could narrow it down to the one thing

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that's like the most attractive,

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like what was it that really like,

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yeah, this girl's worthy of pursuing here?

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I just probably like,

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I've probably just learned too many statistics

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that kind of don't matter,

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but there's a lot of stats about how

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if you're the same religion,

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you have similar culture,

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you kind of like, it lasts longer.

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People have better success rates.

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So maybe I'm being a little mechanical about that.

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Like mindedness of it?

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Like she would say things,

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I would describe my lifestyle,

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I'd describe my grandparents

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and she'd be like, those are like my grandparents.

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And I'd be like, that's cool.

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And yeah, it was just like nice

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to meet somebody that was kind of like me.

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Get you.

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But besides the culture stuff,

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I think health for me is pretty big.

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My health culture, obviously religion,

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those are like probably my three pillars

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or it might be a fourth pillar there,

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but at this point I don't really care what color she is.

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I don't care what her eye color is.

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I don't give a shit about a lot of stuff,

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but I just wish she'd get a little healthier,

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but I'm being a little vain about that.

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But then again, it's really about her health.

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Like if that stroller got away from her guys, right?

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Pretend we're in a park,

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the stroller got away and it's rolling downhill.

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Is she gonna physically react and save my son?

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I'm trying to be kind of goofy a little bit here,

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but okay, the kid, my son's on the dresser.

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He's gonna fly off.

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He has no fear.

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Can you respond and save him?

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I don't know.

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I'm not trying to be a jerk.

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Well, I'll tell you-

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It's very tough.

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It's very tough.

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Thomas, I don't know if I answered your question, Thomas.

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Very well, sorry.

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Well, I think you kind of did.

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And I have a couple more thoughts,

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but David, I think you were trying to say something.

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I was just gonna say,

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like you mentioned her last few years,

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like having been married, gone through divorce,

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what that affected on her, I don't know,

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but was her wanting divorce or him or whatever,

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what happened there and all that,

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her job, the nine-to-five.

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So she's had a pretty stressful year.

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So obviously that has, I'm sure contributed to her health and her condition, her lifestyle,

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that kind of thing, which contributes all to, you know, to the weight and everything.

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So don't underestimate the power of like the healthy relationship that you might bring

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that you guys might have together and how that might be incredibly motivating for her

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to want to do this second marriage, possibly if it comes to that, like, like get ready

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for that.

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Like that's incredibly motivating for women to be able to like the wedding day or even

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just a new relationship, the, the, the de-stress that a new relationship might bring because

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of the way you're handling life versus the way she's had to handle life up until now.

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So there's an incredible factor, the X factor of this new life and love that not everything's

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going to be perfect, of course, but I'm just saying like, you know, Jackie was literally

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going through anxiety, panic disorder, all kinds of things.

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And I didn't know any of this really, because I didn't know her immediate history.

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I was just meeting her.

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We met in, you know, in April and were married by November that same year.

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But there were so many things that I now know now because I know the history and I know

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all the things that led up to that.

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But there were so many things I didn't really understand what kind of state of health she

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was in mentally and physically when we, when we actually first met.

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Because it was kind of serendipitous in terms of the way that happened.

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And just, I was, it was just, I think it was, this is the providential part of how we met

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and how we came together and why we came together.

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I think there was a lot of things that God was doing in this unbeknownst to both of us

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until many years later, we can look back on it.

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And there was, you know, part of her testimony is, is that just who I was as a person, my

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love, my affection, my just sincerity, my, you know, my just, you know, chill, you know,

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I wasn't in her face, you know, trying to make things different, whatever.

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My chillness about it was like, that made like all the difference in the world.

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She literally just panicked, just literally went away.

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She literally became healthy almost, you know, almost overnight type thing in terms of just

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a better state of being, which then led her on the path and trajectory to, you know, like

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where we're at now.

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And it's not, you know, it's not all me.

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I'm just saying, you know, our relationship was able to bring out new facets and dimensions

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of both of us that are better selves.

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So there's that.

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I think nursing culture even can, can be tough.

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Two of my sisters are nurses and they spend all day kind of taking care of other people's

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bodies and it can be hard sometimes to kind of invest the energy, kind of taking care

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of their own selves.

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And there's kind of a culture of not taking care of yourself, like in parts of nursing,

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I feel like, which, which makes things difficult as a nurse practitioner, it might be a little

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different and it sounds like she's not doing night shifts or anything like that.

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I think that a little bit along the lines of what Chris just put in the chat, I was

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thinking a little bit about, you know, there are a lot of different areas of life, like

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a life coach gave me like a wheel.

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There's like relationally, what do you want for your future?

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Like physically, work wise, like living situation.

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And I'm wondering, I feel like sometimes it can be a little, it can feel too much like

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an interview if you're like, OK, well, let's go down like this list of stuff.

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And it sounds like maybe one choice that you might face is how much do you want to

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include it as kind of a list of things, kind of looking at the future versus how much do

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you want to be able to be honest with her and say, hey, you know, like I'm afraid, kind

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of lampshade it and be like, I'm really afraid that, you know, you were going to take it

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this way, but health really matters to me.

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And I just wanted to I want us to feel free to talk about what matters to, you know, to

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both of us. And so I don't think there's like a right or wrong to that, but you would

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know probably knowing her better, like what she can handle and what she can't.

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But it seems to me like that's maybe a spectrum that you'll probably be looking at.

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And ask Holy Spirit for help, man, lean into just the wisdom of Holy Spirit and say, you

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know, look, I want to have this conversation.

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Like your prayer would be like, Lord, before I go in and just have this conversation just

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because I think I need it and so forth and I just mess it up.

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I want to have this conversation because I think it's important.

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I think it's right. Right.

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So help me have the words and the wisdom and the loving and encouragement and support to

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not just have one conversation, but have a continuing dialogue of like, you know.

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bringing this or addressing this or however it is you know and uh beautiful uh mike anthony what's

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up man you get your hand raised hey i was just something i did think about is you know um as

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a leader right i mean you you could ask like hey are you open to working out like come up figure

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like i don't know figure out a training program and say hey would you be my gym partner

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and like and work on the partnership side and uh maybe come i would i would just if she's open to

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a lot of ladies don't know how to work out they don't know how to take care of themselves

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right like but they would gladly like really go with you and um and partner in that so that's just

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yeah i i kind of i kind of led with that earlier mike and so that's good like i was just basically

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saying yeah make it interactive relational fun and like you never know that she might be looking

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for um a reason an opportunity you know to make a lifestyle change in this way

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so thanks guys so did you miss me while i was gone guys

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i missed you yes i missed you and i couldn't wait to tell you that

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a lot has changed with my mind and how to approach someone and how not only do i have

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the right heart but how i convey it to the women well that's awesome and also i'm not i'm not so

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sure if i have to fill another spiritmate form where you guys have mine already i know i i did

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see your name in spiritmate matt so i think we're good on that it's okay if i re-edit it again because

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i think i might you can go you should be able to log in establish you know like a login that there

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was an email that gets automatically generated and um you should be able to go in and edit your

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profile add add pictures appropriate pictures i don't mean like not inappropriate pics i what i

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mean is pictures that look if you look good not just like some like a selfie thing like make a

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you know an effort to try to make a nice picture have someone else take the picture for you if it's

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necessary you know type thing you would not believe men and women it's ridiculous what people put up

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in their photos for these things you're trying to put your best foot forward this is not a uh i don't

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know whatever i could go on so yeah so if you haven't filled out spiritmate match i think it

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was asked the last couple i did get some feedback and someone i don't know if it was renee or my

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wife or somebody else was doing the men's session last couple weeks and some of the feedback some

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from some of you guys i don't know if it's all you guys or some of the other guys that are not

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here tonight but somebody was saying we're not ready for it and this and that and you know i'm

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like not ready for it no what are we talking about we are trying to put our best foot forward here

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we're trying to make matches we don't start now when are we going to start if not now when you

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know like type things so like that that's not really a factor we need to get the information

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in there so we can start now if you're in relationship that kind of thing you know not

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looking for necessarily a match i get that and some guys are in that situation as well so um

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but if you're watching this in replay and that's you that's cool as well so um i hope everybody's

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doing good um we had an incredible vacation it was um i don't know if you did you guys hear

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jackie's i think it was this last supernatural saturday and or at least the one where she was

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talking about like you know we went to europe for this vacation we were gone for two and a half

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weeks in europe and when you say like oh but you're in europe for two and a half weeks that sounds on

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its face sometimes depending on who you are that sounds very exotic and very like wow luxurious and

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so forth and all that kind of stuff and you know we were definitely thankful that we could do it

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however it is brutal it is very difficult to just travel period second of all let alone to go on

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as many i think i stayed in probably seven or eight different beds during the whole time that

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i was gone for two and a half weeks you know depending on where we were in the country or what

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airbnb we were in or what you know so it's it's one thing to go to a place and go to a nice place

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and stay like you you move in and you stay and then you're just relaxing and you're there for

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you know five seven eight ten days whatever like that and you're enjoying yourself

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versus literally moving around every other day with four bags and things and rollers and

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europe does not have like they didn't think of like the rolling bag in europe

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They have cobblestone streets.

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They don't have escalators.

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Everything's steps.

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If you're taking a train, we literally,

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I'm not kidding you,

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in one of the days that we were traveling,

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it wasn't every day, but one of the days we were traveling,

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we literally traveled in one day,

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boat, a bus, train, plane, automobile,

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and I think there was another form of transportation.

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And I'm not kidding you.

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I'm not exaggerating.

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I had six forms of transportation

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in one of the days that we were traveling.

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We were literally going from one place to another.

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it was literally planes, trains, and automobiles, and more.

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So it can be super brutal.

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The beds over there are like sleeping on

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three-inch plywood.

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They're not comfortable and soft.

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They don't have enough pillows.

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The food is tremendously good,

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and it's incredibly good.

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Talking about nutrition,

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they don't put the stuff that we put in our foods.

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And you can eat, like we ate ridiculously.

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We were like, we were gluttonous

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to the point where it was just really bad.

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But surprisingly enough, I came back

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and I did not gain any weight.

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Matter of fact, I think I lost a couple pounds.

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And you don't get the bloat.

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You don't get the bigness.

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You're full, but you don't get like,

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oh my God, I feel like I could just die,

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roll over after you eat some of the big meals here.

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It's just really different.

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But we enjoyed and saw a lot of friends

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and had a lot of good family time, and it was great.

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But it is not easy to do it.

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I'm so sorry, where in Europe were you, David?

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So we went to Italy,

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and then we did a seven-day cruise to Greek Isles.

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And my mother, who turned 80 earlier this year,

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and my mom and dad who had their 50th wedding anniversary,

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we celebrated that by going on this like bucket list cruise.

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She'd never been to Italy, she'd never been to Greece.

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She'd been well-traveled a lot of her life,

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but she'd never been to those places.

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So last year we determined that this was gonna be

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what we were gonna do for her and our family.

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And we were able to have all of my kids,

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all of their spouses, my mom and dad,

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my sister and her husband and my nephew,

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and my two aunts, my mother's sisters,

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who are still alive, they're the only siblings still alive.

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And all of 14 of us went on this cruise,

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and it was just a really great time.

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So we went to Greece, and then back to Italy,

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and then Jackie and I went over to Portugal for a week

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to visit Portugal and visit some friends

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and do some business over there.

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So I'm telling you what, it was great.

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Portugal is the best, my opinion.

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Were you mostly in Lisbon or?

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Lisbon, and then along the coast, Ericeira,

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which is a coastal city, we were there for five days,

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and that is incredible.

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Lisbon's pretty cool.

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I mean, we were there for a couple of days at the end,

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but it's like a city, it's got history,

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and it's like a city.

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And we had done enough cities, we did Bologna,

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that was really cool.

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Bologna is actually a really cool city.

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We did Rome last year, we did Florence.

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Florence is really cool.

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We did some coastal cities.

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The big cities are, like for me, for Europe,

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it's like you did it, like say, okay, we did it, right?

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And then for me, it's over.

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I think the best areas in terms of touring Europe

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or anywhere in Europe is kind of like the country,

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the coastal, sort of like more of the nicer,

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chill areas for me.

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Now, if you love history, that's another thing,

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you're gonna have to go where the history is.

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Went to the top of the Areopagus,

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went to Mars Hill, that was pretty cool.

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I was on Mars Hill and didn't even know it.

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We were walking up to the Areopagus,

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or what's the other word for it?

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Something polis, what is it called?

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Mount Olympus?

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The Acropolis, which is the,

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I guess that's the Latin word for it,

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or Areopagus is the Greek word for it, I'm not really sure.

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But anyway, we're on our way up, we're going up,

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and it is, again, that was a 14,000 step day walking.

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That's another thing, you walk forever and ever,

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and oh, there's five more blocks you gotta go walk.

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The taxis don't take you all the way to the Airbnb,

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they drop you off a street earlier

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because it was crazy.

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But we're walking up there,

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We noticed there was this side thing over to the side.

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And it was like, oh, there's people up around that rock.

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That's pretty cool.

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Let's climb up there.

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So we climbed up there.

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We're standing up there.

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We took pictures.

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There's 50 other people up there, all this thing.

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And we went down.

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And we go to the Acropolis.

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And then much later in the day, we were, oh, man,

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we were just that close to Mars Hill.

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We should have did that.

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And I don't know if you all know what I'm referencing,

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which is Paul's moment where he speaks.

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This is in Acts chapter 26, something like that.

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And he references literally going

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to this place where it was renowned

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for having deeper conversations.

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So Paul was in the marketplace that day.

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And it was kind of like one of those things, hey,

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if you want to hear more, meet me at Mars Hill.

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Meet me at the place where there's deeper discussion.

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And Mars Hill was the place.

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And then we figured out, oh, my lord, that was the big rock

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that we were on.

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That was the coolest thing.

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I was just like, oh, we actually made it.

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And it was pretty cool.

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So I have pictures from that.

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A lot of cool things, though.

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We had a good time.

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And so if you ever get a chance to do it, go see it.

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Any world travelers here?

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Got world travelers?

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Good, good, good.

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I only traveled to Israel.

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That's the only time I traveled.

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I was in the UK the last couple of weeks, actually.

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That was fun.

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Oh, you were?

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OK, so you were.

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I was going to go, actually, back through London.

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But we didn't.

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I mean, that was an early version of our itinerary

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before we even left.

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So that's cool.

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Were you doing business or pleasure?

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It was a vacation.

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But it was very purposeful.

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You mentioned history.

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So I did a lot of, I was visiting a lot of museums,

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studying, went to a lot of the castles,

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and tried to understand a lot of what people were trying to do.

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So you and my son would get along very well.

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He loves the museums, loves all the stuff, the history.

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That's cool.

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Well, good.

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Well, Jenna, what I had, I mean, we

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can continue on this vein if you want to.

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But what I had thought in my heart today,

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or coming into this call, was I've

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been thinking about two different things.

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I've been thinking about fear and how ridiculous fear is.

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I hate fear.

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And not that there's things in my life

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that I'm not fearful of, because there are.

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I'm not saying I don't deal with fear, because I do.

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But there was this thing on fear that I

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thought was interesting.

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And then the other thing was on goals.

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I wanted to do sort of, I thought

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that maybe doing an activation on goals would be good.

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So I don't know what is of interest to you all.

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But my main thought was that I was dealing,

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I guess, on the back end of this trip,

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I was dealing with a mindset of having to come back

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into my regular self.

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Just like you would always.

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You'd come off a trip, and you'd change gears.

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And lots of times, it's just a very like, oh, this sucks.

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I got to get back to real life, whatever.

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But it wasn't so much like the work,

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like getting back to work, as much as it was just like,

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I felt like that I had a, I felt like that I

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was gaining some momentum in a particular area of my life.

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And then I felt like it went back.

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And I was not, I was upset about it.

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I was disappointed about it.

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And at the same time, I realized that it was OK.

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And what I said by, what I mean by OK,

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was that if you feel, if everything in life is,

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if the things that you want to change in your life,

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let me put it that way, because it's things about change.

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It's things about like habits and behavior and mindsets

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and shifting, that kind of thing.

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The things you want to change about your life,

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if you feel yourself like going cycle, like you cycle,

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like I'm doing, it's kind of like one of those things like,

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I was doing pretty good until whatever.

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Like, and then it's just like, and then something happened.

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Or I don't know, there was some, there was an interruption.

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There's a disruption.

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And now I'm not doing, I'm not doing that well anymore.

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And so that can be very disappointing,

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can be very debilitating, can be very difficult

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to like come back from that.

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But, and the thing about it is, is.

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is why do we process it that way?

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Why do we process it in a way that, I mean,

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obviously, it's negative.

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But why do we process it in a way

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like it's like we've just lost it,

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or like it's so hard to come back?

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Like, I was doing so good, but then whatever.

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Because isn't that the way life is?

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Isn't that the way life goes?

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Isn't that life, basically?

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I don't know if you're catching what I'm saying.

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Isn't life cyclical that way?

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In that, like, and this is kind of like what I always

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was trying to overcome with my students

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when I was teaching young people about sin.

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They would be like, oh, I was doing so good,

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and then I sinned.

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And now I'm like back in wherever,

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wherever in your head.

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You're back into like, you go way back.

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And it's like, I've got to now work all the way harder

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just to get back to where I was,

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instead of going, no, you didn't lose ground so much,

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you just stopped.

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You just need to pick it back up

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and you need to continue to move forward.

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Does that make sense?

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Are you asking that as rhetorical or a literal question?

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Yeah, kind of rhetorical, but I do want feedback

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because I want to know if I'm tracking here with anyone.

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Well, you learn from your mistakes

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or you learn from your growth.

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So it might seem that you're back to your state,

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back to the first stage, but you're not

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because you're a different person

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than you were the last time when you were there.

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And which is interesting about what you just said,

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because I love that answer.

491
00:26:45.360 --> 00:26:47.520
I think it's good and it's true,

492
00:26:47.520 --> 00:26:51.120
but here is what I was facing.

493
00:26:52.120 --> 00:26:55.360
I had the right answer, like you just said, Matthew.

494
00:26:55.360 --> 00:26:58.280
Like I had the right, I could tell myself that,

495
00:26:58.280 --> 00:27:00.440
but I wasn't living it.

496
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.280
Like I didn't believe myself when I said like,

497
00:27:03.280 --> 00:27:05.160
when I told myself, yeah, I didn't answer, that's right.

498
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:06.920
You can just move forward.

499
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:09.080
But I still had the feelings.

500
00:27:09.080 --> 00:27:11.280
I still had the sort of the internal dialogue.

501
00:27:11.280 --> 00:27:16.280
I still had the emotional sense around that I'm less than.

502
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:20.640
So I wanted to just push forward through it.

503
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:22.560
And so I just made a decision

504
00:27:22.560 --> 00:27:24.360
because I came to that realization.

505
00:27:24.360 --> 00:27:26.000
This is like, you know what?

506
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:28.160
It is just a pause.

507
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:29.360
It wasn't a setback.

508
00:27:29.360 --> 00:27:31.040
It was a pause and it was a,

509
00:27:31.040 --> 00:27:32.400
I can just pick this right back up

510
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.080
and I can start moving forward again.

511
00:27:34.080 --> 00:27:36.440
I can step right back into like,

512
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:38.560
just as easy as a decision,

513
00:27:38.560 --> 00:27:42.640
I can literally step right back in to where I was before

514
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.400
and I can step right back into that mindset.

515
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:49.760
Like I don't have to like do the hard work again.

516
00:27:49.760 --> 00:27:51.280
You know what I'm saying?

517
00:27:51.280 --> 00:27:54.040
I can just go right back to where I was.

518
00:27:54.040 --> 00:27:55.960
And I think that's an incredible,

519
00:27:57.600 --> 00:27:59.560
I call it a skill, I think,

520
00:27:59.560 --> 00:28:01.560
because I think it's a level of maturity

521
00:28:01.560 --> 00:28:04.160
to where it's like, look,

522
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:08.600
I don't have time to dread this.

523
00:28:08.600 --> 00:28:13.040
I don't have time to like get emotionally,

524
00:28:13.040 --> 00:28:14.960
go down the drain in this.

525
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:16.880
I don't have, you know what I'm saying?

526
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:19.280
I don't have the bandwidth.

527
00:28:19.800 --> 00:28:23.840
I can't afford for this to be a setback.

528
00:28:23.840 --> 00:28:28.840
I have to move forward like with success,

529
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.440
with like furtherance, with development.

530
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:34.880
Does that make sense?

531
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:38.040
Could I ask?

532
00:28:38.040 --> 00:28:41.840
So I think I'm now cluing in to what you're saying.

533
00:28:41.840 --> 00:28:45.120
I was about to say, I respectfully, strongly disagree,

534
00:28:46.120 --> 00:28:49.640
but I think I hear what you're saying.

535
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:54.000
So for example, I have a guy that's been living with me

536
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:59.000
and has become a friend, you know, an acquaintance.

537
00:28:59.360 --> 00:29:02.000
And he's now back in drug detox

538
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:07.000
because he lapsed into hard drugs.

539
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.680
And so that is a serious setback

540
00:29:12.800 --> 00:29:16.120
and a lot of recovery was lost.

541
00:29:16.120 --> 00:29:17.960
So, and at the same time,

542
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:19.840
I would say that if we're going through cycles,

543
00:29:19.840 --> 00:29:22.200
I'm not saying I've lived this fully,

544
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.000
but I think that when we go through cycles,

545
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:29.160
it's an indication of unrenewed mindsets, you know,

546
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:31.080
thinking that's embedded in our thoughts,

547
00:29:31.080 --> 00:29:33.160
or if we wanna use like,

548
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.000
we wanna talk about the finished work of the cross,

549
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.440
a lack of fully understanding

550
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:40.840
what Jesus has done in our lives.

551
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:43.040
But I hear what you're saying now.

552
00:29:43.040 --> 00:29:45.760
So I don't think that we're called to live in cycles.

553
00:29:45.760 --> 00:29:48.320
I think God has called us to live from glory to glory.

554
00:29:48.320 --> 00:29:49.960
But I hear what you're saying now,

555
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:51.640
because the problem is that

556
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.200
as soon as the devil tempts us into something,

557
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:58.840
then his attack shifts from the temptation to the shame

558
00:29:58.840 --> 00:30:00.160
and letting the shame.

559
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:08.640
aim because of the finished work of the cross is what allows us to live without condemnation.

560
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:16.000
I have a friend who's had a lot of cycles in life, but I've always been amazed by his

561
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:20.200
faith and his courage.

562
00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:28.440
He's done a lot better for quite a while now, but when he was dealing with homosexuality

563
00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:33.280
in a relationship, he would say, I am still loved and holy.

564
00:30:33.280 --> 00:30:38.240
I am still loved by God and holy.

565
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:39.240
That's powerful.

566
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:45.440
I think that a big, I think a big part of what you're telling that David, a lot of neuroscientists

567
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.200
have wondered the same thing for a long time.

568
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.000
There's the phrase, you know, the synapses that fire together, wire together.

569
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:57.640
So the way, when we try to develop a new habit, my understanding is that our synapses have

570
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:02.800
to create a new pathways and basically build new structures in our brains.

571
00:31:02.800 --> 00:31:10.680
And when something happens that causes us to kind of stop the new pattern, one thing

572
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:17.440
that can very easily happen is we go back to our old, very strong highway of wired together

573
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:25.560
synapses that are old habit and taking the strength to say, I am going to keep on building

574
00:31:25.560 --> 00:31:32.040
kind of the new pathway in my brain, I think is, is something that can be very hard, especially

575
00:31:32.040 --> 00:31:38.240
because it seems like it takes energy to be very conscious that we need to do that sometimes.

576
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:46.960
Yeah, no, that's exactly the thought process that I went through, because I'm not saying

577
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:52.320
when you pick up from where you felt like you had progress and then you felt like you

578
00:31:52.320 --> 00:31:59.680
had a setback, I'm not saying that the pickup is just to make it easier.

579
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:05.800
I'm saying that very thing is, is that it's kind of like when you're, if you've ever seen

580
00:32:05.800 --> 00:32:11.760
those machines that dig a tunnel, like for cars and trains through like a mountain, you

581
00:32:11.760 --> 00:32:17.600
know, those big, huge machines, it's like, what if you got so far and then you just decided

582
00:32:17.600 --> 00:32:21.520
to like, for whatever reason, you couldn't go any further.

583
00:32:21.520 --> 00:32:22.520
That would suck.

584
00:32:22.520 --> 00:32:29.160
It's like, you did all that work, you know, and you went all that way to accomplish this

585
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:30.160
thing.

586
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.400
It's just like, there isn't any other way except for forward.

587
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:40.080
You know, it's like you get to a point where it's kind of like, it's like, look, I used

588
00:32:40.080 --> 00:32:44.480
to go back into the old patterns because I would get discouraged.

589
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:45.480
I would get depressed.

590
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:49.920
I would get, um, I would get, um, in shame cycle.

591
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:55.800
I would get, you know, like I would just, you know, whatever I want to Medicaid or whatever.

592
00:32:55.800 --> 00:33:02.440
And so, but now I've come to the point of maturity, I feel like, or just age or whatever

593
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:06.200
it is, or just like, you know, like I'm running out of, not running out of time.

594
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:12.000
I don't want to fear time, but at this, but in the same way, I've come to a point where

595
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:16.920
like, no, the only way is forward.

596
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:28.280
The only way to what I want, what I'm after success, relationships, finances, um, whatever

597
00:33:28.280 --> 00:33:35.600
it is that your goal is, this is how I came to the goals thing is it's through forward

598
00:33:35.600 --> 00:33:37.080
and through.

599
00:33:37.080 --> 00:33:38.080
There is no round.

600
00:33:38.080 --> 00:33:39.880
There's no, there's no easier way.

601
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:41.220
There's no roundabout.

602
00:33:41.220 --> 00:33:45.400
There's no like, you know, I, this is where I came to the point where it's like, I don't

603
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:48.080
have time to go backwards.

604
00:33:48.080 --> 00:33:55.240
I only have time and only strength to continue moving forward and progress, even though it

605
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.040
seems very difficult.

606
00:33:57.040 --> 00:34:00.160
And that's what I think we were talking about when you said like, yeah, it's hard work.

607
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.360
Yeah, it is hard work.

608
00:34:02.360 --> 00:34:06.560
I'd like to tell you there's an easier way, but it's hard work to accomplish the things

609
00:34:06.560 --> 00:34:09.360
that you want to, to accomplish.

610
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:13.199
So that's where I got with the whole goal setting, because I saw this video, anybody

611
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:15.120
ever heard of Brian Tracy?

612
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:21.239
He's a renowned Canadian, um, like Tony Robbins, kind of a guy, you know, he's like a motivational

613
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.280
speaker, you know, like an old school kind of guy, we're still wear suit and tie and

614
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:25.400
everything.

615
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:28.440
And there was this little video short of him that he has this little exercise he does.

616
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:30.320
And I thought it was really amazing.

617
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.679
I thought it'd be a good activation for us.

618
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:40.800
Um, but I want to know right now from each of you, like, is there something that what's

619
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:46.040
like, what's the one thing that you would really like to accomplish, you know, in your

620
00:34:46.040 --> 00:34:47.679
life right now?

621
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.400
You know, is it like, um, is it a health goal?

622
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:51.840
Is it a spiritual goal?

623
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:53.880
Is it a, is it a wealth goal?

624
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:55.080
Is it a relational goal?

625
00:34:55.080 --> 00:35:00.040
Like what's the one thing right now that's kind of like bugging you like if, if, if there's

626
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:06.000
one thing that could really like bring about an incredible amount of change in your life,

627
00:35:06.640 --> 00:35:11.280
if that one thing were either accomplished or were different in your life, what would that be

628
00:35:12.240 --> 00:35:17.360
for you? For me, that'd be easy. It'd be a full-time job. I'm working five jobs right now.

629
00:35:18.080 --> 00:35:23.920
Okay. Okay. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, it's hard from, you know, get up in the morning to help

630
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.960
somebody on the computer, go teaching kids in the afternoon, go driving Uber Eats at night.

631
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:39.280
And yeah, seven days a week. So yeah, that's fine. Like crazy. And so that would be the one

632
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:46.720
thing, if anything, if I could have a work-life balance and just be able to take a break.

633
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:54.480
Okay. That's good. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that. Who else? What's one thing right

634
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:59.040
now? It's just kind of like, what's one thing, if it was different or if it was accomplished,

635
00:36:00.080 --> 00:36:03.360
if something was changed in your life that would make all the difference in the world, what would

636
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:19.600
it be? I'll jump in. So for me, like one of my callings requires a spouse, right? Like I'm,

637
00:36:19.600 --> 00:36:23.840
you know, and doing that stuff. And it's kind of annoying because I'm like, Lord, what am I,

638
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:29.200
how am I going to get down that road without, and I've been pursuing and the apps are dry. And

639
00:36:29.200 --> 00:36:34.080
so it's like, like you said, what's annoying, like, Lord, but I'm trusting and obviously

640
00:36:34.080 --> 00:36:37.600
not forcing the issue. I mean, I've had plenty of people who wanted to be in a relationship that

641
00:36:37.600 --> 00:36:42.960
were good, but they weren't God. Right. And so like, there's a difference between a divine,

642
00:36:43.680 --> 00:36:49.600
I kind of have a higher ceiling that not everybody can walk alongside. Right. And so,

643
00:36:50.240 --> 00:36:56.080
so no, just like that. I just, you know, my Lord, I would like to really get on that road and go

644
00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:02.880
meet the right person. Yeah. Okay. That's good. Thank you, Mike.

645
00:37:06.080 --> 00:37:13.600
I think for me, something I've been really struggling and is balancing input and output.

646
00:37:14.560 --> 00:37:23.920
So I have done far too much input, I think, and changing the habit to create output, whether it

647
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:30.400
be bringing order to spaces around me, making sure that I'm on top of emails that need to be replied

648
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:35.520
to taking time to write, taking time to paint, taking time to do all those kinds of things

649
00:37:35.520 --> 00:37:41.440
instead of continuing to learn and learn and learn and learn and learn, I think is something. And I

650
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:48.880
feel like God told me if I wanted to meet my potential to do the exercises in a book called

651
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:56.640
the second circle. So I've been working on it that way. But it's, it's not easy, it would change

652
00:37:56.640 --> 00:38:02.720
everything. But things are changing, thankfully. So did you say writing the book called the second

653
00:38:02.720 --> 00:38:09.200
circle? No, no, I have a book by Patsy Roddenberg, the foremost vocal coach in England called the

654
00:38:09.200 --> 00:38:16.320
second circle. She talks about when we live in primarily an input, she calls that first circle.

655
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:20.880
When we live primarily in output, she calls that third. And then when we're doing both at the same

656
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:27.520
time, she calls that second circle. Got it. Um, are you a writer, Thomas?

657
00:38:28.720 --> 00:38:35.680
I am working hard to try to become one. I'm excited about it. Do you have like a core

658
00:38:35.680 --> 00:38:41.040
message that you feel like is kind of like, one message is kind of like you're like, I know you

659
00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:45.120
like, I know you understand and know a lot of things, I get it, you have you draw from a tremendous

660
00:38:45.120 --> 00:38:48.880
amount of resources, I get it. But do you feel like there's this one thing that's kind of materializing

661
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:56.640
into sort of like, this is kind of like my main thrust. I have four books, at least that I want

662
00:38:56.640 --> 00:39:04.720
to write. But one of them is about Jesus over religion. One of them would be probably a memoir,

663
00:39:04.720 --> 00:39:10.560
one of them is on the concept of procedural rhetoric. And then but I feel like God's told me

664
00:39:10.560 --> 00:39:15.920
that I'm a poet as well, which is unsurprising. So I've been really trying to take time every day to

665
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:22.880
write poetry. That's awesome. But it's just I, when you were talking, before you said books or

666
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.440
anything, or I even asked if you're a writer, I just saw that, you know, that there's definitely

667
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:35.440
a work of writing for you, for sure that you must do. And so like, my question to you,

668
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:39.360
my challenge to you is like, what's holding you back? Like, what's keeping you from doing that?

669
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:42.880
And of course, you're addressing it, you know, you and I totally understand what you mean,

670
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:48.320
when you say, I've got I'm doing the input output thing, like artists and creatives and people who

671
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:53.760
like, are like, that, you know, do work, life's work, like writing and sculpting and painting and

672
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:59.040
music and all that they have a body of work, you know, type thing. And that's kind of like, they're

673
00:39:59.040 --> 00:39:59.840
like,

674
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.100
Prince, before he died or when he died,

675
00:40:02.100 --> 00:40:04.940
he had more things that were musical pieces

676
00:40:04.940 --> 00:40:08.600
that were finished and virtually,

677
00:40:08.600 --> 00:40:10.640
but not published in any way,

678
00:40:10.640 --> 00:40:12.400
more than he ever made that was ever famous

679
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:14.360
or that he earned money from or anything like that.

680
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:17.000
So his body of work, so to speak.

681
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.840
So the output, yeah, it's incredible.

682
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:20.920
So I just pray that with you.

683
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:23.440
I agree with you on all that.

684
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:24.280
It's pretty cool.

685
00:40:26.160 --> 00:40:27.060
Who else?

686
00:40:27.060 --> 00:40:29.400
What's one thing that's kind of,

687
00:40:30.340 --> 00:40:32.980
not the one thing that's holding you back.

688
00:40:32.980 --> 00:40:35.180
The question is, is what is the thing

689
00:40:35.180 --> 00:40:38.520
that if it were different or it was completely changed

690
00:40:38.520 --> 00:40:41.300
or was accomplished, like it was finished,

691
00:40:41.300 --> 00:40:44.500
like a goal, what would that one thing be for you?

692
00:40:48.940 --> 00:40:51.220
I was gonna say just starting a PowerPoint

693
00:40:51.220 --> 00:40:52.700
and presenting it to people.

694
00:40:54.020 --> 00:40:54.860
Make a video.

695
00:40:54.860 --> 00:40:56.620
You're gonna do what with PowerPoint?

696
00:40:56.620 --> 00:40:58.140
Make a historic PowerPoint

697
00:40:58.160 --> 00:41:00.320
about God's plan for America.

698
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:03.000
It's talking about how things came to be.

699
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.840
I grow sick and tired of the negative historic views

700
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:08.400
of the secular world.

701
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:10.480
And some of it I find very hard to believe

702
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:12.280
where people make their own narrative

703
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.960
and you see how history can affect your view of the world.

704
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.640
Well, I wanna see in a more positive Christ-centered outlook

705
00:41:17.640 --> 00:41:19.200
and see how God sees it.

706
00:41:19.200 --> 00:41:21.240
Not so much in what the History Channel says

707
00:41:21.240 --> 00:41:23.720
about history playing itself out.

708
00:41:23.720 --> 00:41:25.680
And remember, and seeing all the things

709
00:41:25.680 --> 00:41:26.840
that are not good in this world.

710
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:28.040
Well, look back at history.

711
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:29.720
Things weren't any better today.

712
00:41:29.720 --> 00:41:32.780
And I think it's just another evil trend of our time.

713
00:41:32.780 --> 00:41:34.580
Kind of like everyone's thinking about abortion

714
00:41:34.580 --> 00:41:36.100
and same-sex marriage being legal.

715
00:41:36.100 --> 00:41:39.020
Well, you look back in the day with racial segregation,

716
00:41:39.020 --> 00:41:41.620
I don't think it'd be the first time this has happened.

717
00:41:41.620 --> 00:41:43.200
Wow, okay.

718
00:41:43.200 --> 00:41:45.740
Wow, that's incredible.

719
00:41:45.740 --> 00:41:49.180
Accomplish like a teaching, a presentation,

720
00:41:49.180 --> 00:41:54.180
a final way to present historical biblical perspective,

721
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:59.920
accuracy of what is it, American history specifically?

722
00:42:02.680 --> 00:42:03.880
Yeah, I should say so.

723
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:08.320
Interesting, I love that.

724
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:09.160
Who else?

725
00:42:11.600 --> 00:42:12.720
Joshua came on camera.

726
00:42:12.720 --> 00:42:13.920
I see you, Joshua.

727
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:16.440
And I don't know if you came on camera

728
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.100
to say something or what, but I am highlighting you now.

729
00:42:20.100 --> 00:42:20.940
Yeah.

730
00:42:23.520 --> 00:42:27.640
Well, the question you're asking

731
00:42:27.640 --> 00:42:29.760
is a question I've thought about a lot

732
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:31.160
and I don't really know the answer.

733
00:42:31.160 --> 00:42:32.600
I've had many different thoughts,

734
00:42:32.600 --> 00:42:37.600
but sometimes I feel like it's having the right spouse

735
00:42:39.640 --> 00:42:41.520
and it goes deeper than just the spouse

736
00:42:41.520 --> 00:42:46.040
because many years ago when I was an Asian,

737
00:42:46.040 --> 00:42:48.640
I basically lost everything and I had a choice

738
00:42:48.660 --> 00:42:52.100
to either quit or pursue the one I loved.

739
00:42:52.100 --> 00:42:56.820
I chose to do the unthinkable of pursuing the one I loved

740
00:42:56.820 --> 00:43:01.300
in territories I didn't know, languages I couldn't speak

741
00:43:01.300 --> 00:43:04.300
and places that were not safe to be.

742
00:43:04.300 --> 00:43:08.060
And I think the Holy Spirit gifted me with the,

743
00:43:08.060 --> 00:43:10.940
or just gave me a gift of revealing to me

744
00:43:10.940 --> 00:43:15.940
who I was with Christ in me from all of the time,

745
00:43:16.720 --> 00:43:20.840
the 15 some years I'd been reading the Bible

746
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:23.680
and pursuing him, not knowing exactly what to look for.

747
00:43:23.680 --> 00:43:25.520
He connected all the dots.

748
00:43:25.520 --> 00:43:28.640
And for years, I was fought with the Lord

749
00:43:28.640 --> 00:43:32.660
for several years in that and growing.

750
00:43:32.660 --> 00:43:35.080
And then at one point I realized that, man,

751
00:43:35.080 --> 00:43:38.820
this knowledge of, it's like,

752
00:43:41.740 --> 00:43:43.360
if you know what the word says,

753
00:43:43.420 --> 00:43:46.900
if God said it, all you have to do is believe it

754
00:43:46.900 --> 00:43:48.860
and then live it, right?

755
00:43:48.860 --> 00:43:50.340
Easy to say, of course.

756
00:43:50.340 --> 00:43:51.540
Sounds easy, right.

757
00:43:51.540 --> 00:43:54.960
But that's where I was.

758
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.300
I was hot with the Lord and he was allowing me

759
00:43:57.300 --> 00:44:00.740
to walk in it and it was easy to do.

760
00:44:00.740 --> 00:44:02.760
And it was amazing and it was wonderful.

761
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:06.080
And I guess he spoke through me a lot

762
00:44:06.080 --> 00:44:07.980
to other people and whatever.

763
00:44:07.980 --> 00:44:10.140
But then I came to a point in the journey

764
00:44:10.140 --> 00:44:13.180
where I realized, man, God, all this knowledge

765
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.880
that you're showing to me, week after week,

766
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.040
when I spend time with you, I love it and it's good,

767
00:44:20.040 --> 00:44:25.040
but God, I can see how I could become tempted

768
00:44:25.780 --> 00:44:29.280
to become proud of this knowledge,

769
00:44:30.120 --> 00:44:32.640
even though it's good knowledge that you're showing me.

770
00:44:32.640 --> 00:44:34.440
And it's like, God, I would rather

771
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:38.160
that you take this knowledge away from me,

772
00:44:38.160 --> 00:44:42.080
but to teach me how to live out love

773
00:44:42.340 --> 00:44:43.580
almost like in a way of like,

774
00:44:43.580 --> 00:44:45.460
I don't even know what the word says

775
00:44:45.460 --> 00:44:47.500
of who we are with Christ in us.

776
00:44:47.500 --> 00:44:50.900
And fast forwarding more, at some point,

777
00:44:50.900 --> 00:44:54.360
I realized that relationship is the key.

778
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:58.100
And I don't exactly know how to do relationship

779
00:44:58.100 --> 00:45:00.140
because much of my life was...

780
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.000
is challenged in that area.

781
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.080
But it brought me closer,

782
00:45:05.080 --> 00:45:06.920
the whole identity in Christ thing,

783
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:11.000
it just brought me closer to the symbolism of marriage.

784
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:12.740
And I feel like I could,

785
00:45:12.740 --> 00:45:16.220
he only would let me know so much,

786
00:45:16.220 --> 00:45:17.820
then it came up to that point of,

787
00:45:17.820 --> 00:45:19.520
hey, now you need to get married.

788
00:45:20.520 --> 00:45:25.380
Because it's like you spend time in theory, right?

789
00:45:25.380 --> 00:45:28.100
And then it's totally different when it comes to practice.

790
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:32.280
How many testimonies I've heard from people

791
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:34.480
who've been married for decades,

792
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:37.360
of the challenges of marriage,

793
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.480
but then how all of that, when it's in a healthy way,

794
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:42.620
how that journey comes out to show,

795
00:45:43.720 --> 00:45:47.640
or it comes out like a reflection of the relationship

796
00:45:47.640 --> 00:45:49.680
God wants to have with us.

797
00:45:49.680 --> 00:45:52.040
I mean, there's so many of these gold nuggets in there

798
00:45:52.040 --> 00:45:54.080
that I could see that's like, man,

799
00:45:54.080 --> 00:45:56.400
that there's so much more in that

800
00:45:57.140 --> 00:45:59.540
than just standing on your feet,

801
00:45:59.540 --> 00:46:01.140
knowing who you are with Christ in you,

802
00:46:01.140 --> 00:46:04.760
because it's in the word of God, that's good too.

803
00:46:05.700 --> 00:46:09.020
But then when you couple it with something like that,

804
00:46:09.020 --> 00:46:10.840
somehow to me, it just comes out that way.

805
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:12.780
It's like, man, that's,

806
00:46:14.300 --> 00:46:15.940
I'm not saying marriage is easy,

807
00:46:17.580 --> 00:46:21.180
but I think there's a fruit and a reward and a joy

808
00:46:21.180 --> 00:46:23.880
that comes through the persistence and endurance.

809
00:46:23.900 --> 00:46:26.900
And it's like, not only that, but in that journey,

810
00:46:28.620 --> 00:46:31.140
I would hope for all, myself included,

811
00:46:31.140 --> 00:46:32.880
that you get closer to God,

812
00:46:33.740 --> 00:46:36.660
realizing how much as an individual,

813
00:46:36.660 --> 00:46:40.380
a husband or whatever, man, I need Jesus.

814
00:46:40.380 --> 00:46:42.140
And you give him that place,

815
00:46:43.220 --> 00:46:45.740
through vulnerability to him,

816
00:46:45.740 --> 00:46:47.660
that you just give it to him.

817
00:46:47.660 --> 00:46:49.980
And then when he comes through,

818
00:46:49.980 --> 00:46:52.220
and then that relationship grows stronger,

819
00:46:52.240 --> 00:46:54.880
just like it did when you were growing up in Christ

820
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:57.080
as a single person.

821
00:46:57.080 --> 00:46:59.200
And there'd be times when the Holy Spirit

822
00:46:59.200 --> 00:47:00.280
would interact with you.

823
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:02.320
And then when you were doubting him,

824
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:03.160
he showed you that,

825
00:47:03.160 --> 00:47:05.520
no, I was there for you the whole time.

826
00:47:05.520 --> 00:47:08.880
And then he shows you and you see that he was,

827
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:11.400
and then your faith gets stronger in him.

828
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:14.800
That's what I'm, that's where my mind is at.

829
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:18.380
But of course I'm single and I made bad choices, so.

830
00:47:19.240 --> 00:47:20.320
I'm just.

831
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.920
I'm incredibly intrigued by what you're saying,

832
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:26.240
because you've just opened like a whole nother Pandora's box

833
00:47:26.240 --> 00:47:30.400
but at the same time, Josh, that was the most live

834
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:35.120
I've ever seen you in any interaction on these calls.

835
00:47:35.120 --> 00:47:37.400
And you got very passionate

836
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:38.720
about what you were talking about.

837
00:47:38.720 --> 00:47:39.560
And I wanna honor that.

838
00:47:39.560 --> 00:47:41.720
And I wanna reveal, reflect that back to you,

839
00:47:41.720 --> 00:47:46.720
because I feel that's something that you are going to,

840
00:47:47.340 --> 00:47:49.500
that you need and you want,

841
00:47:49.500 --> 00:47:52.340
but at the same time that you're going to experience,

842
00:47:52.340 --> 00:47:54.780
because I believe there's something happening in you.

843
00:47:54.780 --> 00:47:56.380
I think there's a light bulb coming on.

844
00:47:56.380 --> 00:47:59.400
Not to say that you didn't know this before,

845
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:01.500
but I'm hearing it in your voice.

846
00:48:01.500 --> 00:48:05.940
I mean, it's been a while since I've seen any kind of like

847
00:48:05.940 --> 00:48:07.380
passion excitement in you.

848
00:48:07.380 --> 00:48:08.940
So I think this is a good thing.

849
00:48:08.940 --> 00:48:10.300
I think it's awesome.

850
00:48:10.300 --> 00:48:12.140
And you're exactly right.

851
00:48:12.140 --> 00:48:14.380
It's like the whole scenario when I was talking earlier

852
00:48:14.380 --> 00:48:16.880
about, you know, like there's only one way forward,

853
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:19.600
there's only one way, which is forward and through

854
00:48:19.600 --> 00:48:23.040
and relationship, marriage relationship is just like that.

855
00:48:23.040 --> 00:48:25.060
We talk about, you know, Jackie says it all the time.

856
00:48:25.060 --> 00:48:28.640
It's like God, you know, marriage is God's maturity plan.

857
00:48:28.640 --> 00:48:33.640
And it is the most refining, the most frustrating,

858
00:48:34.080 --> 00:48:38.560
the most difficult, the most rewarding, the most glorious,

859
00:48:38.560 --> 00:48:42.720
the most incredibly awesome experience

860
00:48:42.720 --> 00:48:44.500
that I think humans can go through.

861
00:48:44.500 --> 00:48:46.340
And this is why scripture talks about,

862
00:48:46.340 --> 00:48:49.980
like when a man and a woman leave their mother

863
00:48:49.980 --> 00:48:51.340
and their father and they come together

864
00:48:51.340 --> 00:48:53.660
and it talks about like, and it's a whole mystery.

865
00:48:53.660 --> 00:48:55.100
And it's like, it's just like,

866
00:48:55.100 --> 00:48:56.900
it's like in Christ and the church.

867
00:48:56.900 --> 00:48:59.260
And then they bring, like that whole scripture is so weird

868
00:48:59.260 --> 00:49:00.540
because it's talking about marriage, marriage, marriage,

869
00:49:00.540 --> 00:49:02.820
and all of a sudden it just twists and it goes,

870
00:49:02.820 --> 00:49:05.180
and this is what it's like with Jesus and his church

871
00:49:05.180 --> 00:49:06.020
and so forth.

872
00:49:06.020 --> 00:49:07.380
And we're like, and then it's a mystery.

873
00:49:07.380 --> 00:49:08.860
And we're like, what?

874
00:49:08.860 --> 00:49:09.700
What are we saying?

875
00:49:09.700 --> 00:49:10.980
Like, what is that scripture even saying?

876
00:49:10.980 --> 00:49:12.700
But I think you just said it.

877
00:49:13.640 --> 00:49:16.840
It's kind of like this, like beautiful, messed up,

878
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:20.400
creative, like terrible, awful, glorious,

879
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:24.520
tremendous experience.

880
00:49:24.520 --> 00:49:25.760
And it is true.

881
00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:27.380
I just saw an old couple.

882
00:49:27.380 --> 00:49:28.220
It was kind of funny.

883
00:49:28.220 --> 00:49:30.160
It was kind of like this video short.

884
00:49:30.160 --> 00:49:31.680
And it was like this older couple,

885
00:49:31.680 --> 00:49:34.720
they'd been married for 50 plus years and so forth.

886
00:49:34.720 --> 00:49:38.120
And he was speaking at a wedding and he was with notes.

887
00:49:38.120 --> 00:49:40.360
His wife was standing right beside him.

888
00:49:40.380 --> 00:49:43.460
And he said, he said, you know, I'll test it.

889
00:49:43.460 --> 00:49:44.540
I'll tell you about this.

890
00:49:44.540 --> 00:49:46.620
He's kind of toasting, you know, I think somebody.

891
00:49:46.620 --> 00:49:50.420
And he said, you know, we never talked about divorce,

892
00:49:50.420 --> 00:49:51.780
you know, the two of us.

893
00:49:51.780 --> 00:49:52.720
And he looks at his wife.

894
00:49:52.720 --> 00:49:57.720
He said, we talked about murder, but never divorce.

895
00:49:57.900 --> 00:50:00.180
And, you know, so it was like.

896
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:08.880
I was like, yes, I totally understand that, I get it, but that's the invitation,

897
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:18.160
not only in that relationship, but just in life, period, that there is no other way,

898
00:50:18.160 --> 00:50:21.920
like whatever it is that you're putting before you, that God has put before you,

899
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:25.440
or that you're seeing revealed before you, that is your assignment,

900
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:33.440
and you can put it into a goal form, there is no other way towards that, or

901
00:50:34.640 --> 00:50:41.120
other than just through and forward, however difficult and challenging that is.

902
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:47.120
That is the assignment, and that is life. I want to share with you the five goals that

903
00:50:47.120 --> 00:50:51.680
I wrote down, and I want you guys to write five goals between now and next week.

904
00:50:52.640 --> 00:50:57.440
And they're I am statements, and so this is, I was inspired by Brian Tracy's teaching,

905
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:02.560
he teaches to make goal statements in I am, in present form, or even a past tense,

906
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:09.760
where I have, or I am, or I am doing, or whatever, and my five statements are this,

907
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:14.160
I am maintaining my ideal weight of 190 pounds, feeling fit, strong, and energetic.

908
00:51:15.040 --> 00:51:18.240
I'm the CEO of a business generating two million dollars in revenue,

909
00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:24.880
growing exponentially exponentially each year. I am confident wearing a personal clothing style

910
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:29.920
that reflects my unique identity and values. I am in meaningful direct communication with

911
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:36.960
my parents and children every week. I am living in a clutter-free organized home

912
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:45.360
where every room and drawer is functional and tidy. Now my house is actually not a crazy pig

913
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:49.840
pen, or I don't want to give the impression of that, but I'm actually going for 100%

914
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:57.280
like in my house, like literally every nook and cranny, every closet, everything, you know.

915
00:51:58.560 --> 00:52:04.080
So I'm going hardcore with these things. And the thing about my parents and my children,

916
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:09.600
I love my parents, I love my children, but I don't feel like I am like intentionally like

917
00:52:09.600 --> 00:52:16.720
connecting with them consistently enough. I'm not having the impact that I can have in their life

918
00:52:16.720 --> 00:52:22.960
and that they have in my life directly. Like I live like in proximity to all of that, and we

919
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:29.840
have like a healthy community conversation going all the time, because I know what they're doing,

920
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:35.920
and I know where they're at, I know what's going on. But I need that direct, I need that direct

921
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:43.200
connection that I think is important, and other things. So, and then the losing the weight,

922
00:52:44.080 --> 00:52:51.120
that's the thing. So I want you to write five I am, or I've, you know, that doesn't have to be I am,

923
00:52:51.120 --> 00:53:04.560
but like, you know, present tense. I have, I am doing, I am, I, you know, I possess, I own, I

924
00:53:05.680 --> 00:53:13.600
am involved, you know, whatever the verb is, but it's present tense statements that are articulating

925
00:53:13.600 --> 00:53:23.600
very specifically with numerical qualitative, quantitative, excuse me, and time bound as well,

926
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:32.240
if you can. Okay, by next week, write those statements down,

927
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:36.160
and then we'll continue to talk about those next time.

928
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:43.520
Hi, guys, God bless you. Have a great week. I'm glad to be back with you and just want to keep

929
00:53:43.520 --> 00:53:49.920
moving forward doing good things. God bless. Have a best week. Thank you. Talk to y'all soon.
