WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.520 I began, as I began to research this fear thing and how debilitating that is, it became 2 00:00:05.520 --> 00:00:09.880 more and more apparent to me that that's actually where most people live now. 3 00:00:09.880 --> 00:00:19.600 In America, 70% of young people between the ages of like 18 to 30 are saying that fear 4 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:30.960 is like their number one problem. 5 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:31.960 Well what an exciting thing. 6 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:38.440 I just want to say as we jump in here and start to digest this book, for me it's a proud 7 00:00:38.440 --> 00:00:40.240 moment even though I didn't write it. 8 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:45.400 This has been a labor for you, but just living it with you over the last five years and the 9 00:00:45.400 --> 00:00:48.940 inspiration that's come behind it and now we're going to dig in and talk about it. 10 00:00:48.940 --> 00:00:50.660 So really exciting. 11 00:00:50.660 --> 00:00:56.700 It really is, Ryan, because it has been such a, it feels like a long journey to me because 12 00:00:56.700 --> 00:01:01.300 it really started with COVID and I started thinking about some of these concepts. 13 00:01:01.300 --> 00:01:10.020 It's been four plus, almost five years of research and work and you've been a part of 14 00:01:10.020 --> 00:01:14.980 every aspect of it as the executive pastor of the Road Church. 15 00:01:14.980 --> 00:01:19.660 I mean, we're together at least five days a week, all the time. 16 00:01:19.660 --> 00:01:21.340 We've been doing that for 10 years. 17 00:01:21.340 --> 00:01:26.140 Yeah, it's fun to see, like just as the words have taken shape on the page, but just from 18 00:01:26.140 --> 00:01:31.780 practical principles, daily disciplines and all of that, and just you modeling that and 19 00:01:31.780 --> 00:01:34.220 leadership at the Road for us and all the staff. 20 00:01:34.220 --> 00:01:37.940 So really excited that this is now moving into the community. 21 00:01:37.940 --> 00:01:42.620 Here's a picture of the book that is being released and is released now and just so excited 22 00:01:42.620 --> 00:01:46.140 to get this out in the hands of folks and see how it's going to start transforming lives 23 00:01:46.140 --> 00:01:49.820 because it's just so practical and very user friendly. 24 00:01:49.820 --> 00:01:51.940 So I was going to jump in. 25 00:01:51.940 --> 00:01:52.940 What is a habit? 26 00:01:52.940 --> 00:01:55.860 What does that mean to you as you would define it? 27 00:01:55.860 --> 00:01:57.580 Great question. 28 00:01:57.580 --> 00:02:00.580 I think a habit is a routine. 29 00:02:00.580 --> 00:02:07.780 It's an action, something you don't necessarily do it daily, but you consistently do something 30 00:02:07.780 --> 00:02:10.940 to the degree that it becomes automatic. 31 00:02:11.020 --> 00:02:13.740 So it's kind of like driving home. 32 00:02:13.740 --> 00:02:19.020 Sometimes when I drive home and I pull into the driveway, I don't remember the entire 33 00:02:19.020 --> 00:02:24.060 trip from wherever I was because it's so automatic. 34 00:02:24.060 --> 00:02:28.380 And what's so great about habits is at first they're hard, but they get easier because 35 00:02:28.380 --> 00:02:35.260 they become so much a part of your routine and the actions that we start to have, as 36 00:02:35.260 --> 00:02:40.900 it were, the ability to not even have to think about something, but it's still forming 37 00:02:40.900 --> 00:02:42.020 our character. 38 00:02:42.020 --> 00:02:44.460 It's still forming our life. 39 00:02:44.460 --> 00:02:48.060 And so that's why habits are so important. 40 00:02:48.060 --> 00:02:51.700 But to be honest, Ryan, I didn't think that much about it. 41 00:02:51.700 --> 00:02:54.300 I'm a very disciplined person. 42 00:02:54.300 --> 00:02:55.300 So are you. 43 00:02:55.300 --> 00:02:56.620 Both of us were collegiate athletes. 44 00:02:56.620 --> 00:03:00.020 So we already know about discipline and the importance of discipline. 45 00:03:00.020 --> 00:03:07.020 So I knew about habits, seven habits of highly effective people by Stephen Covey was a big 46 00:03:07.020 --> 00:03:09.100 book in my life in the seventies. 47 00:03:09.100 --> 00:03:16.300 I began to understand through research that habits were so crucial in our lives in a more 48 00:03:16.300 --> 00:03:17.700 defined way. 49 00:03:17.700 --> 00:03:23.220 Yeah, I love that and bringing it down practically for people just to have those small bites 50 00:03:23.220 --> 00:03:24.220 at a time. 51 00:03:24.220 --> 00:03:27.740 But then even you do such a good job in this and it's going to be fun to explore as we 52 00:03:27.740 --> 00:03:30.000 go on in the journey. 53 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:35.920 But where you're tying biblical principles to the habits that can really resurrect, reform, 54 00:03:35.920 --> 00:03:37.520 and transform our daily lives. 55 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:38.960 So we're getting into that. 56 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:43.640 I want to jump back, go a little bit about maybe what was the inspiration? 57 00:03:43.640 --> 00:03:45.280 What kind of drove you? 58 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:47.920 Because we were talking a little bit about even one day, I think we're sitting by the 59 00:03:47.920 --> 00:03:51.600 fire pit and you go, man, I feel like God's putting this book on my heart. 60 00:03:51.600 --> 00:03:56.880 And it was the early inception and embryonic phases of Breakthrough Courage. 61 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:02.040 Walk us through a little bit about maybe what was driving you in that season to create this? 62 00:04:02.040 --> 00:04:08.040 Well, remember COVID, remember how our church went through that and everybody did all over 63 00:04:08.040 --> 00:04:14.680 the world, not just in America, but here in Colorado being in a state where there were 64 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:19.880 some mandates laid down for us, even as churches to shut down. 65 00:04:19.880 --> 00:04:25.560 And so what we did, as you remember, because you were a part of everything was we began 66 00:04:25.640 --> 00:04:30.680 doing identity research and studies and asking the question, is this really legit? 67 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:36.040 Or is this some kind of a control thing by kind of the government or the medical industry? 68 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:38.840 Well, we began to discover some things, right? 69 00:04:38.840 --> 00:04:42.680 But I think it wasn't that that was the inspiration. 70 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:44.040 It was more the fear. 71 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:49.400 It was a fear I saw in people and the fear I saw in even Christians and even pastors. 72 00:04:49.400 --> 00:04:50.400 Yeah. 73 00:04:50.400 --> 00:04:51.400 They were so fearful. 74 00:04:51.400 --> 00:04:52.400 Right. 75 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:57.440 And as I began to research this fear thing and how debilitating that is, it became more 76 00:04:57.440 --> 00:05:00.080 and more apparent to me that that's actually where most of it came from. 77 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:08.400 people live now. In America, 70 percent of young people between the ages of like 18 to 30 78 00:05:09.280 --> 00:05:15.600 are saying that fear is like their number one problem. And ideations with suicide, 79 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:25.120 drug addiction, depression, anxiety, and even agoraphobias and panic are a big part of those 80 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:31.200 20-year-olds, even into the mid-30s. And I would like to think, you know, these people should be 81 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:36.320 kind of the most fired up about their life. They should be the most idealistic, 82 00:05:36.320 --> 00:05:40.320 they should be the most excited. I mean, 18 to 25, 18 to 30? 83 00:05:40.320 --> 00:05:42.400 That's right. I'm thinking about my age. 84 00:05:42.400 --> 00:05:45.360 You get to my age and I can see where some people start going, well, it's kind of, 85 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:50.320 I'm a loser, you know, like I really haven't done anything with my life. But I always, 86 00:05:50.400 --> 00:05:55.680 I remember my 20s being very exciting, kind of thinking of the adventure, what I was going to do 87 00:05:55.680 --> 00:06:02.320 and stuff. So that's pretty sad. And Harvard even had a study that I talk about in the book that 88 00:06:02.320 --> 00:06:11.120 shows that we are the most fearful nation since World War II. So this is the worst we've been 89 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:16.560 since World War II. And I can't even imagine the comparison, because if you know anything 90 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:25.680 about history, you realize the whole world was worried and fearful that Hitler and the Russians 91 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:30.400 were going to take over the world. And to think that we're at that same level now is pretty bad. 92 00:06:30.400 --> 00:06:35.600 So I just began to do research on it. I looked at it scientifically. I looked at what the studies 93 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:40.480 were about fear that were out there, because I didn't want to be, I didn't want to pastor a 94 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:50.400 church that was built on fear. And so that was the genesis of the book, was just looking at fear. 95 00:06:50.400 --> 00:06:55.440 I kind of started with fear. I didn't start with courage. I started with fear and asking the 96 00:06:55.440 --> 00:07:01.040 question, why are so many people stymied by this and paralyzed by this emotionally, mentally, 97 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:09.440 and even physically? So COVID stirred up the soup and kind of what was blatantly down on the bottom 98 00:07:09.440 --> 00:07:18.080 of culture kind of rose up. And I went, wow, I'm a pastor. I'm a leader. I'm a father to my 99 00:07:18.080 --> 00:07:24.640 congregation. I owe it to them and to myself and to my family to figure this thing out. 100 00:07:24.640 --> 00:07:34.800 So that was when the concept of how we walk by courage began to manifest itself. I like what 101 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:38.800 Winston Churchill said, speaking of World War II, but Winston Churchill, the former prime minister 102 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:45.120 Britain says, you know, fear is a reaction. Courage is a decision. 103 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:46.240 Love that. 104 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:50.560 It's really, there you go. I mean, that to me was like, when I, when I saw that, that, 105 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:53.280 that was certainly a part of a paradigm shift in me. 106 00:07:53.280 --> 00:07:57.360 Yeah. I mean, and it makes sense. And I love that, you know, you were attacking it from, 107 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:02.080 and the way I've thought about this is just that fear and courage are really two sides of the same 108 00:08:02.080 --> 00:08:05.840 coin. And you referenced that here that there is this intertwining, there's connectivity here. 109 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:14.320 I think of fear, and we've talked about this, is fear is the economy of, you know, Satan's kingdom 110 00:08:14.320 --> 00:08:20.080 and courage is the equity of God's kingdom as he tries to inspire his creation in that. 111 00:08:20.080 --> 00:08:24.000 So how do we fight that? And then you even referenced here, and we've heard how many 112 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:27.600 times the Bible says, do not fear, do not be afraid. Right? 113 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:28.640 144 times. 114 00:08:28.640 --> 00:08:32.159 144 times. And then courage, I think it was like 114. 115 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:32.799 Exactly. 116 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:38.240 So there's something to that for our makeup, our design, intuitively, God, 117 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:41.120 our creator knows that we need to be encouraged. 118 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:41.679 That's right. 119 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:46.320 And then even starting out the introduction here, and Joshua is going to be kind of a 120 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:52.080 theme running through the book, but his life, his narrative, and all the things he's called to do. 121 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:52.640 That's right. 122 00:08:52.640 --> 00:08:56.560 And then the things that we face on the landscape, it's so interesting as you're talking about 123 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:02.640 the demographic that's getting hammered right now in society. And I'm thinking about myself, 124 00:09:02.640 --> 00:09:07.600 when I was that age, and the same thing. It's like life's in front of me, all the goals, 125 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:12.000 all the desires, the dreams, and you're full of life. 126 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:12.560 That's right. 127 00:09:12.560 --> 00:09:17.440 You're not so much in the rear view mirror yet, checking out your wounds and what you took your 128 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:23.040 good licks on and where you learned from some big failures, those are yet to come. But to see 129 00:09:23.040 --> 00:09:27.920 kind of things held hostage by this narrative of fear that just is permeating our culture. 130 00:09:27.920 --> 00:09:29.040 It's true. 131 00:09:29.040 --> 00:09:34.240 Timing of your book, just to revitalize, bring breath, bring life, bring encouragement 132 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.200 into our community and influence us. 133 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:45.120 So Ryan, to support what you're saying and to give maybe anecdotal data to the idea of fear, 134 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:52.880 I was meeting with the assistant to the mayor of Colorado Springs about six months ago. So the mayor 135 00:09:52.880 --> 00:09:59.840 had been elected. We had had the debate of the two mayoral candidates here at our church. 136 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:04.180 So I was meeting with his assistant, because he used to be a pastor. 137 00:10:04.180 --> 00:10:08.060 And I asked him, I said, what do you think is the number one problem, or the number one 138 00:10:08.060 --> 00:10:11.280 issue in Colorado Springs that needs to be addressed? 139 00:10:11.280 --> 00:10:13.280 And he said, mental health. 140 00:10:13.280 --> 00:10:14.640 And then he said, fear. 141 00:10:14.640 --> 00:10:21.440 So here we are in a very, I would consider our city a very successful city. 142 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:22.560 We're on the up and up. 143 00:10:22.560 --> 00:10:29.800 I mean, we are a city that is continually growing, one of the fastest growing cities 144 00:10:29.800 --> 00:10:37.480 of middle size in the United States, number one destination, U.S. News and World Report 145 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:42.280 last year, I think we were number one for people moving to a city. 146 00:10:42.280 --> 00:10:47.720 And I think we're like number one or number two as the most healthy environment in the 147 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:48.720 United States. 148 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:55.640 So Colorado Springs is a up and coming, very cool place to move to. 149 00:10:55.640 --> 00:11:00.600 He said, the biggest issue is mental health and fear. 150 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:04.260 So that just shows you how pervasive this is. 151 00:11:04.260 --> 00:11:09.680 And all that COVID did was sort of, like I said, kind of stir up the soup and show things 152 00:11:09.680 --> 00:11:14.440 kind of came to the top that I think, and all I can do is speak for me, I was unaware 153 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:15.440 of. 154 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:16.440 Well, it caught us by surprise. 155 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:19.480 I think a couple things jump out in the book initially. 156 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:24.080 And then just to support what you were saying, too, I had read a stat that supporting Colorado 157 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:29.080 Springs as a city, I think we were in the top five of the educated. 158 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:34.340 So I think we had per capita, one of the top five cities in the country with people living 159 00:11:34.340 --> 00:11:35.840 here with PhDs. 160 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:40.560 So not only are we an up and coming city, we're a highly educated per capita city. 161 00:11:40.560 --> 00:11:46.040 And yet fear is just looming over the background and narrative in people's hearts and minds. 162 00:11:46.040 --> 00:11:47.900 So very telling. 163 00:11:47.900 --> 00:11:53.080 And another stat that a lot of people don't know is that we were the number at least a 164 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:54.080 few years ago. 165 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:59.240 I don't know now, but we were the number one city for suicide among youth in the state 166 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:00.240 of Colorado. 167 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:01.240 Absolutely. 168 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:02.240 That's tragic. 169 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:03.240 Isn't that crazy? 170 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:06.860 So here we are, everything we're saying, and talk about bringing it down to the young people, 171 00:12:06.860 --> 00:12:13.520 number one, with suicide ideation and suicide, actually successful, if you can call it that, 172 00:12:13.520 --> 00:12:16.700 successful suicides in our city. 173 00:12:16.700 --> 00:12:21.200 And we seem to be a city where that shouldn't be true, but it is. 174 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:26.440 And what's interesting, I want to point out in the book is that, you know, that stat leads 175 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:28.480 five years prior to COVID. 176 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:33.320 So for the last decade, right, this has been kind of coming in and impermeating our society. 177 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:36.880 But I think COVID gave us the microscopic lens. 178 00:12:36.880 --> 00:12:40.040 There was already a fracture happening in humanity. 179 00:12:40.040 --> 00:12:43.300 And COVID just deepened that and revealed more of that. 180 00:12:43.300 --> 00:12:47.920 People staying at home, the isolation, all the stats we've read, how unhealthy that was, 181 00:12:47.920 --> 00:12:51.100 the mental health continuing to decrease. 182 00:12:51.100 --> 00:12:55.780 So yeah, all the more reason, be obedient with what God was putting on your heart and 183 00:12:55.780 --> 00:12:58.000 developing these nine habits to live from. 184 00:12:58.000 --> 00:12:59.000 So good. 185 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:00.000 I was going to jump in. 186 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:06.900 I want to read a quote here and kind of moving back into this concept of habits. 187 00:13:06.900 --> 00:13:10.000 Habits harness time and energy. 188 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:12.580 Time is the currency of purpose. 189 00:13:12.580 --> 00:13:18.260 This means that our purpose and destiny are largely determined by the habits we develop. 190 00:13:18.260 --> 00:13:19.260 So powerful. 191 00:13:19.260 --> 00:13:21.340 And really just stopping and pausing on that. 192 00:13:21.340 --> 00:13:26.140 And even just interflexion to say, let me take inventory of my own life. 193 00:13:26.140 --> 00:13:32.700 Where are habits that need to be either strengthened and develop more? 194 00:13:32.700 --> 00:13:34.280 What are habits that need to be stopped? 195 00:13:34.280 --> 00:13:36.900 And what are habits that I need to start entirely, right? 196 00:13:36.900 --> 00:13:40.220 So thinking through that lens as we go through this. 197 00:13:40.220 --> 00:13:43.940 Well, everybody's got the same amount of time. 198 00:13:44.940 --> 00:13:51.260 Not everybody has the same amount of energy, but purpose is reflected more by how you use 199 00:13:51.260 --> 00:13:53.100 your time than you even know. 200 00:13:53.100 --> 00:14:03.860 So, so many people have a purpose, they say, to be a success in some field. 201 00:14:03.860 --> 00:14:05.780 I see this a lot with musicians. 202 00:14:05.780 --> 00:14:10.580 We have a lot of musicians in this church and they're young people and they want to 203 00:14:10.580 --> 00:14:12.900 be worship leaders, let's say. 204 00:14:12.900 --> 00:14:15.060 But then they don't practice, okay? 205 00:14:15.060 --> 00:14:20.460 So they don't actually put in the time to be a worship leader of a congregation, which 206 00:14:20.460 --> 00:14:22.140 is, they say that's their purpose. 207 00:14:22.140 --> 00:14:23.620 That's not their purpose. 208 00:14:23.620 --> 00:14:27.900 You don't, you don't ask people what their purpose is. 209 00:14:27.900 --> 00:14:32.860 You look at their life and the way they live their lives, that's their purpose. 210 00:14:32.860 --> 00:14:39.860 So if a person says that, I'm not sure about my purpose right now, I'm kind of in flux. 211 00:14:39.860 --> 00:14:41.180 That's such a good answer, right? 212 00:14:41.380 --> 00:14:45.980 And if I was talking to them or counseling them as a young person, I would say, well, 213 00:14:45.980 --> 00:14:49.100 probably going to be important for you at some point to find that. 214 00:14:49.100 --> 00:14:55.700 And then you've got to begin to develop habits that get you towards your purpose. 215 00:14:55.700 --> 00:14:57.380 Because that's, that's what a habit is. 216 00:14:57.380 --> 00:15:00.020 It harnesses time and energy. 217 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:02.360 Then it begins, not all at once, 218 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:05.380 but it gradually begins to define your purpose. 219 00:15:05.380 --> 00:15:09.840 It begins to move you in that direction incrementally. 220 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:10.880 So that's why I like to say, 221 00:15:10.880 --> 00:15:12.840 when I said this in the book, in the introduction, 222 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:16.520 I said, look, it's not really 223 00:15:16.520 --> 00:15:19.000 where you're at right now that matters. 224 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:21.040 Right, yeah, that's a great point. 225 00:15:21.040 --> 00:15:23.060 It's more your trajectory. 226 00:15:23.060 --> 00:15:24.880 It's more the trajectory of your life. 227 00:15:24.880 --> 00:15:27.840 So you say, well, I wanna be an engineer. 228 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:29.520 And you're starting school and everything, 229 00:15:29.520 --> 00:15:31.600 you're struggling with classes and engineering 230 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.180 and everything, and you kinda wonder 231 00:15:33.180 --> 00:15:35.720 if you can really cut it, if you can really do it. 232 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:38.840 But you're, don't look at that. 233 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:40.480 But are you in a trajectory, 234 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:42.960 at least headed in the right direction? 235 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:45.480 Because incrementally, you'll get smarter. 236 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:48.720 Incrementally, you'll get stronger. 237 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:50.880 Incrementally, you'll start understanding 238 00:15:50.880 --> 00:15:52.520 concepts better, right? 239 00:15:52.520 --> 00:15:55.480 So it's more the trajectory of someone's life 240 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:57.920 than it is where they're currently at. 241 00:15:57.920 --> 00:16:00.000 Because too many people look at currently 242 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:02.800 where they're at and get really, really discouraged. 243 00:16:02.800 --> 00:16:05.200 And I wanna challenge them, think, 244 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:06.840 what's God putting on your heart 245 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:08.480 of what you wanna become? 246 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:10.960 And then start incrementally on that. 247 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:13.200 So true, I love that because, 248 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:15.000 especially with where we're unpacking this 249 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:16.160 at the beginning of the year. 250 00:16:16.160 --> 00:16:17.640 So many people are goal setting, 251 00:16:17.640 --> 00:16:20.240 gym memberships go through the roof the first of the year. 252 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:22.560 And then they have, it's actually a thing now 253 00:16:22.560 --> 00:16:24.820 where it's like national quit day, 254 00:16:24.820 --> 00:16:26.600 which the second Friday of the year, 255 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:27.760 people have already tapered off 256 00:16:27.760 --> 00:16:28.960 whatever they wanted to start. 257 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:31.400 And probably because they go right out, 258 00:16:31.400 --> 00:16:33.880 pull too much, lift too much, get too sore. 259 00:16:33.880 --> 00:16:35.120 And that just discourages. 260 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:38.120 So this concept of do a little a lot 261 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:40.880 and do it often is so key. 262 00:16:40.880 --> 00:16:41.960 I heard somebody say, like, 263 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:43.520 you wanna start going to the gym, 264 00:16:43.520 --> 00:16:46.680 set your alarm clock, get up, get dressed. 265 00:16:47.560 --> 00:16:48.800 Okay, that's day one. 266 00:16:48.800 --> 00:16:51.520 Okay, day two, get up, get dressed, 267 00:16:51.520 --> 00:16:53.600 step into the gym, go home. 268 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:54.680 And then maybe day three, 269 00:16:54.680 --> 00:16:56.200 then you're actually gonna go pick up a weight. 270 00:16:56.800 --> 00:16:59.040 And so it's just kind of exactly what you're saying, 271 00:16:59.040 --> 00:17:02.480 where building these small shifts, 272 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:05.359 these small changes that add up over time. 273 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:07.240 And in the book, you reference, 274 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:09.380 I think you give the example 275 00:17:09.380 --> 00:17:11.780 of what even it is financially, 276 00:17:11.780 --> 00:17:16.780 this concept of the mathematics of compound interest. 277 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:18.040 That's right. 278 00:17:18.040 --> 00:17:18.880 And it's so huge. 279 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:19.880 I think it's a great analogy. 280 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.520 And it's like, they call it the miracle of compounding. 281 00:17:22.520 --> 00:17:24.460 Yeah, that's true, yeah. 282 00:17:24.540 --> 00:17:28.860 Because a little bit saved here and there, 283 00:17:28.860 --> 00:17:31.220 at first, everything you have in savings 284 00:17:31.220 --> 00:17:33.140 is just the principle. 285 00:17:33.140 --> 00:17:36.020 And then you add a little bit more to the principle, 286 00:17:36.020 --> 00:17:38.980 and there's that much more that can compound, 287 00:17:38.980 --> 00:17:40.140 that can multiply. 288 00:17:40.140 --> 00:17:43.340 And so a little, a little, a little becomes a lot. 289 00:17:43.340 --> 00:17:44.460 So that's the way I look at it. 290 00:17:44.460 --> 00:17:49.300 Now, I guess the way I might taper what that quote 291 00:17:49.300 --> 00:17:51.220 or what that illustration you gave 292 00:17:51.220 --> 00:17:54.100 was as far as going to the gym and everything 293 00:17:54.740 --> 00:17:55.980 would be, don't go to the gym. 294 00:17:55.980 --> 00:17:57.620 Okay, don't even go to the gym. 295 00:17:57.620 --> 00:18:01.740 Just get out of bed and do one pushup, 296 00:18:01.740 --> 00:18:03.940 and then go take a shower. 297 00:18:03.940 --> 00:18:06.700 And the next day, do three pushups. 298 00:18:06.700 --> 00:18:09.960 And so start, if it's physical exercise you're going after, 299 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:12.060 just do something. 300 00:18:12.060 --> 00:18:15.260 And then maybe for you, it's going to the gym, 301 00:18:15.260 --> 00:18:17.380 and maybe for somebody else, 302 00:18:17.380 --> 00:18:19.980 it's just simply going into the living room 303 00:18:19.980 --> 00:18:21.880 and doing a few pushups and sit-ups, 304 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:23.980 but consistently doing it. 305 00:18:24.820 --> 00:18:25.660 That's my story. 306 00:18:25.660 --> 00:18:27.180 On the physical side, 307 00:18:27.180 --> 00:18:29.740 it was just me getting up in the morning 308 00:18:29.740 --> 00:18:34.140 and realizing, man, I'm making this way harder 309 00:18:34.140 --> 00:18:35.460 than it needs to be. 310 00:18:35.460 --> 00:18:36.660 Because we live in Colorado, 311 00:18:36.660 --> 00:18:39.260 and it's cold in the morning a lot of times. 312 00:18:39.260 --> 00:18:41.140 Get in the car, drive to the gym. 313 00:18:41.140 --> 00:18:42.940 That means I've got to have all my stuff there, 314 00:18:42.940 --> 00:18:45.780 take a shower, then come to work and all that. 315 00:18:45.780 --> 00:18:47.060 Okay, that's too much. 316 00:18:47.060 --> 00:18:49.020 I'll never sustain that. 317 00:18:49.020 --> 00:18:51.260 But I can sustain getting out of bed, 318 00:18:51.260 --> 00:18:55.380 getting on the floor right at the end of my bed, 319 00:18:55.380 --> 00:18:57.820 and pumping out 10 pushups, 320 00:18:57.820 --> 00:19:02.660 and then 10 sit-ups, and then 10 air squats one time. 321 00:19:02.660 --> 00:19:05.660 And then it's two sets, and then it's three sets. 322 00:19:05.660 --> 00:19:08.700 And so that's kind of how I see it. 323 00:19:08.700 --> 00:19:10.780 And so it is, it's like you said, 324 00:19:10.780 --> 00:19:11.900 and it's in the book, 325 00:19:11.900 --> 00:19:14.740 a little done a lot is better than a lot done a little. 326 00:19:14.740 --> 00:19:18.700 It reminds me of a quote that I've often loved 327 00:19:18.700 --> 00:19:21.340 and reflected on myself to define 328 00:19:21.340 --> 00:19:23.500 kind of what we're talking here a little bit about 329 00:19:23.500 --> 00:19:24.980 is these habits. 330 00:19:24.980 --> 00:19:26.140 And the quote is, 331 00:19:26.140 --> 00:19:28.980 action is the most important thing. 332 00:19:28.980 --> 00:19:33.860 And so action describes who a person is. 333 00:19:33.860 --> 00:19:36.060 Words describe who they want to be. 334 00:19:36.060 --> 00:19:37.580 And so we've heard- 335 00:19:37.580 --> 00:19:38.420 That's really good. 336 00:19:38.420 --> 00:19:39.260 You and I have heard, right? 337 00:19:39.260 --> 00:19:40.380 A lot of people just talk. 338 00:19:40.380 --> 00:19:41.220 I love that. 339 00:19:41.220 --> 00:19:42.060 Right, they just talk. 340 00:19:42.060 --> 00:19:44.420 And then you see, let's put it into action then. 341 00:19:44.420 --> 00:19:45.700 And that's really what habits are. 342 00:19:45.700 --> 00:19:46.540 Yeah. 343 00:19:46.540 --> 00:19:47.380 So good. 344 00:19:47.380 --> 00:19:48.220 And that's why it's important, 345 00:19:48.700 --> 00:19:52.580 as a parent, to raise your kids in a home 346 00:19:52.580 --> 00:19:55.500 where there's some discipline, some boundaries for them, 347 00:19:55.500 --> 00:19:58.340 because it's all about delayed gratification. 348 00:19:58.340 --> 00:19:59.980 And as young- 349 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:01.560 People, we just want it now. 350 00:20:01.560 --> 00:20:03.360 We want a lot now. 351 00:20:03.360 --> 00:20:06.880 We don't really want to put in the time for it. 352 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:08.320 Every generation's been that way. 353 00:20:08.320 --> 00:20:10.200 It's not unique to this generation. 354 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:12.160 That was true in my generation. 355 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:14.640 And that's why sports can be important and things like that, 356 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:16.480 because you have to keep showing up. 357 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:19.440 You're not just accountable to your parents. 358 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:21.400 You're now accountable to a coach. 359 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:23.800 And he doesn't give a rip. 360 00:20:23.800 --> 00:20:26.320 If you don't want to show up, then you're off the team. 361 00:20:26.320 --> 00:20:28.000 That's great discipline. 362 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:31.200 But that's developing little habits along the way 363 00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:34.280 that can have an impact later. 364 00:20:34.280 --> 00:20:35.600 No, that's absolutely true. 365 00:20:35.600 --> 00:20:40.240 It's funny that, would you say that people 366 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:44.680 that have had maybe an experience in competitive sports 367 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:47.760 will have an edge up on digesting this versus never 368 00:20:47.760 --> 00:20:49.440 competing or having that? 369 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:53.760 Yeah, I think that this is what I heard. 370 00:20:53.760 --> 00:20:58.400 I heard that almost all of your top executives, 371 00:20:58.400 --> 00:21:00.720 and even some of the wealthiest people in the world, 372 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:02.560 were collegiate athletes. 373 00:21:02.560 --> 00:21:04.440 So it's really at the high percentage. 374 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:07.960 I think it's like 75% or 80% of your most successful people 375 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:09.520 were collegiate athletes. 376 00:21:09.520 --> 00:21:12.760 Now, that's on a success continuum, right? 377 00:21:12.760 --> 00:21:13.680 Sure. 378 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:18.560 But yes, if we go back and go, OK, they were this successful, 379 00:21:18.560 --> 00:21:22.800 what made them successful, it was habits 380 00:21:22.800 --> 00:21:24.600 that they harnessed their purpose around. 381 00:21:24.600 --> 00:21:28.320 They harnessed their time, energy, and money around. 382 00:21:28.320 --> 00:21:31.840 I wrote the book probably less for them. 383 00:21:31.840 --> 00:21:32.400 Makes sense. 384 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:35.720 And maybe for people who've never learned that. 385 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:38.280 Because those guys, a lot of these, they've got it. 386 00:21:38.280 --> 00:21:39.440 That's great. 387 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:41.400 Now, this is a spiritual aspect, too. 388 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:44.760 It's not just mental and emotional, but it's spiritual. 389 00:21:44.760 --> 00:21:47.300 And that's what we'll talk about when we get to habit one, 390 00:21:47.300 --> 00:21:48.800 because that kind of sets the pace 391 00:21:48.800 --> 00:21:51.480 for the rest of the other nine habits. 392 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:55.320 But I'm looking for the person who feels defeated, who 393 00:21:55.320 --> 00:21:58.120 feels like they're not doing so good in this. 394 00:21:58.120 --> 00:22:00.960 I'm hoping that this will inspire them 395 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:02.680 to want to go after it. 396 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:05.480 Because they already have habits. 397 00:22:05.480 --> 00:22:07.200 Right, they do, good, bad, or otherwise. 398 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:10.000 Everybody in this room, you guys that are filming everything, 399 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:10.920 we all have habits. 400 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:11.800 That's right. 401 00:22:11.800 --> 00:22:13.720 But there's good habits, there's bad habits. 402 00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:14.320 There it is. 403 00:22:14.320 --> 00:22:19.360 There's quality habits, and there's kind of lame habits. 404 00:22:19.360 --> 00:22:22.040 But we're all living. 405 00:22:22.040 --> 00:22:25.320 So we have the habit, let's say, every time we sit down 406 00:22:25.320 --> 00:22:26.920 or we're waiting in line somewhere, 407 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:33.600 we pull out our phone, and we look at the latest social 408 00:22:33.600 --> 00:22:37.000 network that you're on, Gossip. 409 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:38.040 So you're looking at that. 410 00:22:38.040 --> 00:22:42.080 Or you've got a book with you, and you're reading a book. 411 00:22:42.080 --> 00:22:49.080 You're working your way through an historical novel. 412 00:22:49.080 --> 00:22:52.680 Or a biography, or something like that. 413 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:57.000 So everybody has habits. 414 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:00.840 But quality habits make a quality life. 415 00:23:00.840 --> 00:23:02.880 Poor habits make a poor life. 416 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:05.600 Yeah, there was a great quote you have from the Green Bay 417 00:23:05.600 --> 00:23:06.520 coach. 418 00:23:06.520 --> 00:23:07.280 The Lombardi? 419 00:23:07.280 --> 00:23:08.080 Lombardi, yeah. 420 00:23:08.080 --> 00:23:09.320 Lombardi is super good. 421 00:23:09.320 --> 00:23:10.440 And it's so true. 422 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:13.760 It's about the type of habits and what they develop in us. 423 00:23:13.760 --> 00:23:15.160 And one way or the other, they're 424 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:17.680 either developing good character or bad character. 425 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:20.480 It's kind of that reaping what you sow concept, which 426 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:22.240 is obviously biblical as well. 427 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:22.880 That's right. 428 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.960 So stepping into that, I had a question. 429 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:29.680 Is when you were laying this out and having read the book, 430 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:31.280 you can see where they incrementally 431 00:23:31.280 --> 00:23:33.000 do build on each other. 432 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:35.680 And we'll go through how that concept is actually 433 00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:38.040 lived out in the book and how we all build it. 434 00:23:38.040 --> 00:23:42.320 But just to even restate what you said, reading this 435 00:23:42.320 --> 00:23:44.160 and having been a collegiate athlete, 436 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:46.560 I mean, there's some muscle memory that you can touch on 437 00:23:46.560 --> 00:23:47.720 and that you can go back to. 438 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:50.400 But even people who don't have that in their background, 439 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:53.640 this is like putting the cookies right on the low shelf. 440 00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:56.720 And I think that's so practical and applicable for anybody 441 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.920 to pick up and start to develop better rhythms and better 442 00:23:59.920 --> 00:24:01.000 habits in their life. 443 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:01.920 Well, I hope so. 444 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:02.400 Yeah. 445 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.720 I mean, I hope so because, first of all, 446 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:08.240 I'm not like some sophisticated writer anyway. 447 00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:10.840 But I made it for, I wrote it for men and women. 448 00:24:10.840 --> 00:24:11.520 It's interesting. 449 00:24:11.560 --> 00:24:16.400 I feel like that men get disciplined 450 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:17.760 when they get their job. 451 00:24:17.760 --> 00:24:20.960 Like whenever they get that first job after college, 452 00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:23.160 if they went to college or after high school, 453 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:24.740 if they're not going to go to college, 454 00:24:24.740 --> 00:24:27.680 but that job sort of harnesses their habits and stuff. 455 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:31.280 I feel like with women, there is something 456 00:24:31.280 --> 00:24:34.280 that's of the spiritual nature within them 457 00:24:34.280 --> 00:24:40.000 that seems to get habits, good habits, quality habits earlier. 458 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:43.480 It's interesting how much better women 459 00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:48.280 do in school in an academic setting than most men do. 460 00:24:48.280 --> 00:24:52.120 It's different for all of us, but my hope 461 00:24:52.120 --> 00:24:55.720 is that it's inspirational enough for someone to say, 462 00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:57.320 man, I want a quality life. 463 00:24:57.320 --> 00:24:59.360 I want to understand what my purpose is. 464 00:24:59.360 --> 00:25:01.360 And then I'm going to. 465 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:05.000 I'm going to harness my destiny through how I spend my time, 466 00:25:06.220 --> 00:25:09.140 even if it's just an incremental small change, 467 00:25:09.140 --> 00:25:13.460 I'm going to bring some small changes into my life. 468 00:25:13.460 --> 00:25:15.340 And I know they're going to reach, 469 00:25:15.340 --> 00:25:17.260 they're going to reach a new place, 470 00:25:17.260 --> 00:25:21.620 a new level of quality just by doing a little bit a lot. 471 00:25:21.620 --> 00:25:22.460 Yeah. 472 00:25:22.460 --> 00:25:23.940 For those that are tuning in real quick, 473 00:25:23.940 --> 00:25:26.020 what would you say, and the stat on, 474 00:25:26.020 --> 00:25:27.540 how long does it take to form a habit? 475 00:25:27.540 --> 00:25:32.540 Oh man, so the smallest number I've seen is 21 days. 476 00:25:32.820 --> 00:25:33.660 Yeah. 477 00:25:33.660 --> 00:25:35.500 So when we wrote worshiper warrior up here, 478 00:25:35.500 --> 00:25:38.660 that was a 21 day devotional because of that. 479 00:25:38.660 --> 00:25:40.740 Then you read others, they say 30. 480 00:25:40.740 --> 00:25:41.560 Okay. 481 00:25:41.560 --> 00:25:42.400 Okay. 482 00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:43.940 And then with whole heart 45, 483 00:25:43.940 --> 00:25:46.500 which is our big thing that we're doing, 484 00:25:46.500 --> 00:25:48.020 we do every year at the road, 485 00:25:48.020 --> 00:25:50.220 church at the beginning of the year, 486 00:25:50.220 --> 00:25:54.220 which involves the emotional, the mental, the physical, 487 00:25:54.220 --> 00:25:56.900 that whole thing for 45 days. 488 00:25:56.900 --> 00:25:59.420 Well, that 45 days wasn't random. 489 00:25:59.420 --> 00:26:02.260 I'd seen another study that said 45 days. 490 00:26:02.260 --> 00:26:03.100 Yeah. 491 00:26:03.100 --> 00:26:04.220 Which is almost double the 21, right? 492 00:26:04.220 --> 00:26:05.060 Exactly. 493 00:26:05.060 --> 00:26:05.880 Yeah. 494 00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:06.720 Exactly. 495 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:09.700 So anywhere between 21 and 45 days 496 00:26:09.700 --> 00:26:12.540 seems to be kind of the marker. 497 00:26:12.540 --> 00:26:15.660 If you can do something for about three or four weeks, 498 00:26:15.660 --> 00:26:18.660 if you're seeing the benefit of it, you'll keep doing it. 499 00:26:18.660 --> 00:26:21.180 If you can do it for 21 to 45 days, 500 00:26:21.180 --> 00:26:24.380 you're going to, you've probably developed a new habit. 501 00:26:24.380 --> 00:26:25.220 So true. 502 00:26:25.220 --> 00:26:26.040 And that's, 503 00:26:26.080 --> 00:26:27.760 it's not that long, Ryan. 504 00:26:27.760 --> 00:26:28.600 No. 505 00:26:28.600 --> 00:26:29.640 Think about your whole life in front of you, 506 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.640 all the stuff that we have to do with our job 507 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.360 and with getting married and family and all that. 508 00:26:36.360 --> 00:26:37.200 For sure. 509 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:40.480 What's 21 to 45 days to get something going like that? 510 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:42.000 That's pretty amazing. 511 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.920 And to your point, like we all have the same amount of time. 512 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.160 It's that first, maybe that initial discipline 513 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:50.760 of sitting down and dissecting your time on a daily basis 514 00:26:50.760 --> 00:26:53.560 to find that, it's not that we're finding time, 515 00:26:53.560 --> 00:26:57.480 we're just maybe better utilizing where we do have space. 516 00:26:57.480 --> 00:26:58.960 If we're completely honest with ourselves, 517 00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:00.240 how much time do we waste? 518 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.000 You know, the weekly conviction of, 519 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:04.520 oh, last year or last week, 520 00:27:04.520 --> 00:27:07.040 you had this many hours on screen time. 521 00:27:07.040 --> 00:27:09.000 You're like, yeah, okay, there's room. 522 00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:11.760 There's space in my life to carve and make space for this 523 00:27:11.760 --> 00:27:14.000 and bring it tangible. 524 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:14.840 And that is nice. 525 00:27:14.840 --> 00:27:18.440 I mean, so when you set out to start a new habit 526 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:22.060 and you start to experience the positive net results, 527 00:27:22.060 --> 00:27:23.320 that is very motivational. 528 00:27:24.080 --> 00:27:25.760 And it becomes very tangible for you to want to continue. 529 00:27:25.760 --> 00:27:29.920 It has to become intrinsic at some point, 530 00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.200 not just extrinsic. 531 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.920 I give that illustration of Japanese, learning Japanese. 532 00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:36.840 So I was in Japan. 533 00:27:36.840 --> 00:27:37.960 I'm a missionary in Japan. 534 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:39.840 I'm working with college students 535 00:27:39.840 --> 00:27:43.840 and I'm not naturally gifted at languages. 536 00:27:43.840 --> 00:27:46.360 So the only reason I passed Spanish in high school 537 00:27:46.360 --> 00:27:49.960 is because my gymnastics coach was my Spanish teacher 538 00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:53.480 and he needed me to pass in order for me to compete. 539 00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:55.680 So he made, he just, 540 00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:57.480 he did some things that were interesting 541 00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.560 to make sure that I passed. 542 00:27:59.560 --> 00:28:03.800 So I go to Japan and I know that I'm not gonna be as good 543 00:28:03.800 --> 00:28:05.800 as everybody else probably. 544 00:28:05.800 --> 00:28:07.520 So I, in my mind, I thought, 545 00:28:07.520 --> 00:28:09.080 well, I like being with people. 546 00:28:09.080 --> 00:28:11.520 I enjoy conversation, enjoy talking. 547 00:28:11.520 --> 00:28:13.000 It's a talking habit. 548 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:14.020 It's a language, right? 549 00:28:14.020 --> 00:28:15.480 I'm not learning it on paper. 550 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:17.720 I have to actually communicate it. 551 00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:22.480 So I came up with this little scheme of every day 552 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.080 going to the college campus and finding Japanese students 553 00:28:26.080 --> 00:28:30.920 that wanted to talk to a foreigner American in Japanese. 554 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.680 And that was easy peasy because every Japanese student 555 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.840 wants to meet an American and wants to, 556 00:28:37.840 --> 00:28:39.560 they especially want to meet an American 557 00:28:39.560 --> 00:28:40.860 who's interested in their culture. 558 00:28:40.860 --> 00:28:42.320 So I started doing that. 559 00:28:42.320 --> 00:28:43.720 So that was easy. 560 00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:47.560 Then the hardest thing about Japanese for Americans 561 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:49.880 is the grammatical structure of the sentences, 562 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:54.440 but you don't learn it by just memorizing it. 563 00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:56.080 You actually have to practice it. 564 00:28:56.080 --> 00:28:59.360 So then I made it a vow, kind of made a personal vow. 565 00:28:59.360 --> 00:29:03.280 I'm gonna get in a habit of trying a new grammatical 566 00:29:03.280 --> 00:29:05.720 sentence structure each week. 567 00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:06.720 So here's what I'm doing. 568 00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:09.640 Dialogue, 10 minutes a day, five days a week, 569 00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:14.640 and then one grammatical sentence structure challenge 570 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:17.720 during the entire week. 571 00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:19.480 So then the next week it's a second one 572 00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:20.800 and a third one like that. 573 00:29:20.800 --> 00:29:21.620 Nice. 574 00:29:21.620 --> 00:29:22.460 That's great. 575 00:29:22.460 --> 00:29:24.040 And it really worked well. 576 00:29:24.040 --> 00:29:26.600 And I became fluent in the language. 577 00:29:26.600 --> 00:29:30.440 What I learned, which I think's a key part of habits, 578 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.680 and this is part that I don't see anybody writing about, 579 00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:34.480 but I think it's more, it's identity. 580 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:35.320 Yeah. 581 00:29:35.320 --> 00:29:37.880 You gotta have an identity shift 582 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.000 before it's gonna really become you. 583 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:41.720 It has to become you. 584 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:44.160 If it's just an extrinsic thing you're doing 585 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.960 to lose weight or an extrinsic thing to, 586 00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:49.280 I don't know, study something, 587 00:29:49.280 --> 00:29:51.360 whatever the habit might be that you're in. 588 00:29:51.360 --> 00:29:53.520 It's from the outside coming in, 589 00:29:53.520 --> 00:29:55.280 which is a good start, by the way. 590 00:29:55.280 --> 00:29:56.120 Yeah. 591 00:29:56.120 --> 00:29:57.040 Like I started with that. 592 00:29:57.040 --> 00:30:00.240 But then I learned that I had to feel the language. 593 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:05.540 English. I had to even become almost like a Japanese, I had to become a Japanese in 594 00:30:05.540 --> 00:30:14.160 my heart. I had to understand the way they think and the way they feel in order to flow 595 00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:19.640 linguistically with the way in which they talk. And, you know, one of the most complex 596 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:26.200 languages in the world is English. And English is really felt. It's actually grammatically, 597 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:32.480 it's very, very complex and difficult. You don't even know, and I don't even know how 598 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:38.160 complex what we say are, but you would if you had to learn it as a second language, 599 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:44.880 right? So Japanese don't learn English very well most of the time because of that. And 600 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:50.120 we don't learn, Americans don't learn Japanese, the language very well either, because it's 601 00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:56.520 a feel, it's an identity. You got to start identifying with the language through the 602 00:30:56.520 --> 00:31:01.960 culture, through the people. So I feel like habits are that way. That's really good. Habits 603 00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:08.360 have to become you. You have to begin to say, that's what I do. That's who I am. And as you 604 00:31:08.360 --> 00:31:14.240 do that, you won't lose it. I mean, it's harder to lose because that's who you are. I think that's 605 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:18.320 what men and women who are alcoholics struggle with. That's what men and women are coming off 606 00:31:18.520 --> 00:31:24.280 drugs, you know, struggle with. Their identity is being an alcoholic. Their identity is being a 607 00:31:24.280 --> 00:31:31.160 drug addict. And so somehow they've got to break that and begin to see themselves differently. And 608 00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:40.160 that is not who I am. That's huge. Okay. I'm a child of God. I'm a spirit-filled believer. I'm 609 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:48.040 a king. I'm a priest. I'm a son of God. I'm a daughter of God. And amazing things happen when 610 00:31:48.040 --> 00:31:52.280 you have this identity shift. Yeah, I love that in the book. And it was going into saying things 611 00:31:52.280 --> 00:32:00.040 out loud. There's this audible declaration, this belief system, this narrative that's changed in 612 00:32:00.040 --> 00:32:07.520 us. And I think that's so powerful that because we see spoken word in God's biblical creation and 613 00:32:07.520 --> 00:32:13.560 design of our world, and it's a spoken word. And so there's power in the spoken tongue over our 614 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:20.160 minds, over our identities. And so many times, so many of us live in a narrative that's been 615 00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:25.560 spoken over us, whether we've created that right. That's a really good point. Bad habits in our 616 00:32:25.560 --> 00:32:31.000 lives are just things that we've believed in a narrative that's been given to us. Yeah. The 617 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:38.520 speech center is at the very beginning of God saying, let there be light. So here we are, very, 618 00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:46.840 very beginning of Genesis. That's the first action God begins to create. But the way he 619 00:32:46.840 --> 00:32:52.880 creates is interesting. He creates by speaking into existence what's not there. So it's not 620 00:32:52.880 --> 00:33:00.640 there. We get all caught up in the virgin birth of Jesus. But what about the virgin creation of 621 00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:06.320 the universe? That's a little bit bigger than the virgin birth. So the virgin birth of the 622 00:33:06.320 --> 00:33:13.680 universe was spoken into existence. And so that's why I have those declarations in the book with 623 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:21.080 each habit where you have to declare each day, 10 times that particular habit that you're 624 00:33:21.080 --> 00:33:27.280 developing. I love that. Creating that habit, that discipline, and kind of rewiring the brain 625 00:33:27.280 --> 00:33:34.760 and the narrative that calls us into, I think, unity with God's kingdom as he's seeing us. We're 626 00:33:34.760 --> 00:33:39.880 now coming into alignment audibly with him. I think that he's got to just be smiling when he 627 00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:44.840 sees his creation respond like, yeah, that is how I've always seen you. That was your original 628 00:33:44.840 --> 00:33:49.840 intent and design over your life. And so thank you for stepping into that. Yeah. It's kind of how I 629 00:33:49.840 --> 00:33:54.400 picture him maybe responding in those moments. Yeah. So super good. Kind of back to Japan and 630 00:33:54.400 --> 00:34:00.160 thinking through as we talk about fear and then embracing the courage with these concepts. You 631 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:05.280 know, you're new on the landscape. You're already wrestling with maybe, you know, your limitations 632 00:34:05.280 --> 00:34:11.239 with foreign language, but there's a desire. Was there some fear that stepping onto a campus and 633 00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:17.159 engaging initially, I mean, before there was this positive feedback, you had to face some fears. I'm 634 00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:23.600 going into a foreign land, into a foreign country with foreign gods, and I'm bringing my God, the 635 00:34:23.600 --> 00:34:27.920 truth of the Christian walk, the gospel of the kingdom. And you're trying to learn how to 636 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:35.719 communicate that to these, these precious people. Huge, huge fears. Wow. Because I just had such 637 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:41.800 fear of failure. And I felt like I'm going to look like an idiot out here. I'm trying to stammer 638 00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:51.280 through this language and, and then to try to talk to students who come out of a Shinto Buddhist 639 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:58.160 background to start thinking about Christ. Right. Pretty hard. Yeah, it was pretty hard. But, you 640 00:34:58.160 --> 00:35:00.040 know, you don't raise support because 641 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.200 missionary by wimping out over every little fear you have. 642 00:35:04.200 --> 00:35:04.700 True. 643 00:35:04.700 --> 00:35:09.640 So I kind of overcame it quick, and then I began to enjoy it. 644 00:35:09.640 --> 00:35:11.400 Yeah, that's clear. 645 00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:12.480 That's awesome. 646 00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:14.640 I want to jump back to this quote you have in here 647 00:35:14.640 --> 00:35:16.480 from James Clear, super good. 648 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:19.520 Author of Atomic Habits, New York Times bestseller, 649 00:35:19.520 --> 00:35:21.560 the quality of our lives often depends 650 00:35:21.560 --> 00:35:23.360 on the quality of our habits. 651 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:26.480 With the same habits, you'll end up with the same results. 652 00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:29.000 But with better habits, anything is possible. 653 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:31.200 So let me tie that quote that you have, 654 00:35:31.200 --> 00:35:33.440 and then maybe talk a little bit, 655 00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:36.600 as you were crystallizing or distilling the habits you 656 00:35:36.600 --> 00:35:40.240 wanted to focus on, was there a specific rhyme or rhythm, 657 00:35:40.240 --> 00:35:42.680 or how did you land on these nine habits? 658 00:35:42.680 --> 00:35:47.720 It was a labor of gradually understanding 659 00:35:47.720 --> 00:35:50.760 what seemed to be the elements that God's 660 00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:55.520 put in each one of us to build new habits in certain areas. 661 00:35:55.520 --> 00:35:58.120 So I didn't come with any kind of preconceived notions 662 00:35:58.120 --> 00:35:59.160 at all. 663 00:35:59.160 --> 00:36:01.520 Matter of fact, I wasn't even thinking of writing a book. 664 00:36:01.520 --> 00:36:04.520 I wasn't even thinking about nine habits. 665 00:36:04.520 --> 00:36:07.240 I was just more looking at fear and trying 666 00:36:07.240 --> 00:36:08.560 to see how do we overcome. 667 00:36:08.560 --> 00:36:09.560 How do we overcome fear? 668 00:36:09.560 --> 00:36:12.560 I remember overcome was a big word to me at the beginning, 669 00:36:12.560 --> 00:36:14.280 like five years ago. 670 00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:15.480 I was thinking overcome. 671 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.960 And then I realized, well, this is really about courage. 672 00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:19.000 It's more about courage. 673 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:19.720 Liz is the one. 674 00:36:19.720 --> 00:36:22.680 My wife is the one who came up with breakthrough courage, 675 00:36:22.680 --> 00:36:27.200 because she knew for weeks, at least, maybe even a month, 676 00:36:27.200 --> 00:36:29.880 I'm like, I need a title for this. 677 00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.760 And she's the one who came up with breakthrough courage. 678 00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:35.240 One morning when she woke up, she said, I got it. 679 00:36:35.240 --> 00:36:36.320 Breakthrough courage. 680 00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.000 And I was like, yeah, that's it. 681 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.400 But I wasn't thinking about habits at first. 682 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:44.440 And then I began to see habits really do define us. 683 00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:46.240 Habits define us. 684 00:36:46.240 --> 00:36:48.120 They do. 685 00:36:48.120 --> 00:36:49.200 I don't care what you say. 686 00:36:49.200 --> 00:36:51.720 I don't care what I say. 687 00:36:51.720 --> 00:36:52.600 Look at my habits. 688 00:36:52.600 --> 00:36:54.160 That's who I am. 689 00:36:54.160 --> 00:36:57.200 So some guys say, well, I don't drink very much. 690 00:36:57.200 --> 00:36:58.240 I'm not an alcoholic. 691 00:36:58.240 --> 00:36:59.720 But they go, well, then stop. 692 00:36:59.720 --> 00:37:01.040 Just stop drinking. 693 00:37:01.040 --> 00:37:02.640 If that's causing all these problems in your life, 694 00:37:02.640 --> 00:37:03.440 just stop drinking. 695 00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:07.040 And then they can't, but they say they can. 696 00:37:07.040 --> 00:37:13.160 As a dad, for me, kind of assessing how am I doing, 697 00:37:13.160 --> 00:37:14.920 what's the measuring stick on fatherhood 698 00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.200 with Ryan and his kiddos? 699 00:37:17.200 --> 00:37:19.120 And I'm thinking, well, what habits do they 700 00:37:19.120 --> 00:37:22.200 see me living out consistently? 701 00:37:22.200 --> 00:37:25.600 Which caused me pause to reflect and say, well, 702 00:37:25.600 --> 00:37:28.640 in my story in Family of Origin, where did I see good habits 703 00:37:28.640 --> 00:37:30.200 modeled in my life? 704 00:37:30.200 --> 00:37:32.160 And I went to my grandfather. 705 00:37:32.160 --> 00:37:34.080 I saw my dad model really good habits 706 00:37:34.080 --> 00:37:37.120 with people and relationships. 707 00:37:37.120 --> 00:37:40.440 I saw my grandfather model really good habits 708 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:42.640 with just physical fitness. 709 00:37:42.640 --> 00:37:44.240 And being able to do a lot of things 710 00:37:44.240 --> 00:37:47.920 well into his late 80s or early 80s, late 70s, 711 00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:52.560 where he was ahead of his demographic in mobility 712 00:37:52.560 --> 00:37:53.640 and strength and all that. 713 00:37:53.640 --> 00:37:55.400 I'm like, well, that was really inspiring. 714 00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:57.160 So it just caused me to think, OK, 715 00:37:57.160 --> 00:37:59.600 what habits am I modeling that hopefully my kids are 716 00:37:59.600 --> 00:38:00.640 catching? 717 00:38:00.640 --> 00:38:03.600 And so for you, as you thought through this, 718 00:38:03.600 --> 00:38:07.320 people that inspired you in the areas of discipline and habits, 719 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:08.400 what would you say? 720 00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.840 Very similar to you, Ryan, my dad. 721 00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:14.480 I can still remember we were in Huntsville, Alabama. 722 00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:17.400 He was planting a new church. 723 00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:21.840 And I was in his room, and he's doing sit-ups and push-ups. 724 00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.920 It's funny, I can just remember that like it was yesterday. 725 00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:25.560 That's awesome. 726 00:38:25.560 --> 00:38:27.240 That was a long time ago, right? 727 00:38:27.240 --> 00:38:28.400 Yeah. 728 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:33.400 And then dad takes, you know, he's 93 years old right now, 729 00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:35.280 and he walks almost a mile a day. 730 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:35.800 Wow. 731 00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:39.200 So he just always has been a, and then time with the Lord, 732 00:38:39.200 --> 00:38:41.560 I've seen with his Bible open there. 733 00:38:41.560 --> 00:38:45.040 So I think I grew up in a very disciplined home. 734 00:38:45.040 --> 00:38:46.040 That helped a lot. 735 00:38:46.040 --> 00:38:47.680 And then I had good coaches. 736 00:38:47.680 --> 00:38:49.600 You know, I hear kids talk about bad coaches. 737 00:38:49.600 --> 00:38:54.000 I remember one bad coach in baseball, Little League, 738 00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:58.200 football, baseball, basketball, gymnastics, wrestling, 739 00:38:58.200 --> 00:38:59.040 these sports. 740 00:38:59.040 --> 00:39:00.240 I had great coaches. 741 00:39:00.240 --> 00:39:01.680 All of them were good models to me. 742 00:39:01.680 --> 00:39:02.480 That's huge. 743 00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:07.240 I think when I look at it and I think about what I'm modeling, 744 00:39:07.240 --> 00:39:10.520 I didn't discover the habits that I wanted from all of them. 745 00:39:10.520 --> 00:39:12.120 It came from like three or four different people 746 00:39:12.120 --> 00:39:12.840 that I saw, right? 747 00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.600 So my grandmother was the one who was really 748 00:39:15.600 --> 00:39:16.840 faithful in the scriptures. 749 00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:18.880 And I saw her studying God's word all the time 750 00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:20.360 and taking copious notes. 751 00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:21.080 It's really good. 752 00:39:21.080 --> 00:39:24.520 And I love that, again, I just can't state enough, 753 00:39:24.520 --> 00:39:29.720 just that it takes, we just need to find courage for us 754 00:39:29.720 --> 00:39:32.040 to make the changes that we desire, 755 00:39:32.040 --> 00:39:33.760 because we want different results. 756 00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:35.480 And it's accessible to everybody. 757 00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:38.280 We all have the ability to do this 758 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.280 if we'll just embrace, partner with God and His kingdom 759 00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:45.680 to start making these incremental shifts in our lives 760 00:39:45.680 --> 00:39:48.200 to see real results and real change. 761 00:39:48.200 --> 00:39:49.040 Absolutely. 762 00:39:49.040 --> 00:39:49.800 Super huge. 763 00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:50.800 Absolutely. 764 00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:55.160 I guess, what would you say your hope for the audience 765 00:39:55.160 --> 00:39:57.040 as they pick this up, where would you 766 00:39:57.040 --> 00:39:59.240 want to encourage them as they're even just getting 767 00:39:59.240 --> 00:40:00.800 started? 768 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.400 As it's daunting, you know, we start to think about habits, and again, I'm thinking to the gym, 769 00:40:05.120 --> 00:40:12.080 the driving, the daunting task, the cold weather of Colorado, but then how do we overcome maybe 770 00:40:12.080 --> 00:40:16.640 some of those initial hurdles? Because every habit, one could say that there's a couple 771 00:40:16.640 --> 00:40:22.800 hurdles before that's developed into a habit. First of all, everybody has fear. Everybody has 772 00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:32.560 fear of something. It's a fear of never getting married. It's a fear of staying married. No, 773 00:40:32.560 --> 00:40:39.440 but it can be that for some people, you know, but everybody's got fears about their ability 774 00:40:40.160 --> 00:40:46.320 to be successful. I think there's a lot of fear of failure. There's a lot of fear of the shame 775 00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:54.960 in our life. So my hope is that through these nine habits, men and women can replace the fear 776 00:40:56.160 --> 00:41:04.240 with faith and courage. So like with Joshua, going into the promised land in Joshua chapter one, 777 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:11.760 he is full of fear. And yet God says to him four times, be strong and courageous. 778 00:41:12.720 --> 00:41:18.240 And everybody's got a Jordan River. I mean, everybody's got a river of doubt. Everybody's 779 00:41:18.240 --> 00:41:25.040 got a river of fear that God's calling them to cross over, to go for it, to break into their 780 00:41:25.040 --> 00:41:32.480 promised land. So I believe that that's what God wants for every one of us is to cross that Jordan 781 00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:39.760 River of doubt, the Jordan River of shame, the Jordan River of fear through developing a new 782 00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:45.280 way of living, through harnessing your time through habits. Absolutely. I love that. We're 783 00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:48.800 going to talk about bloodstained allies in the days ahead and those things, but I'm thinking 784 00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:56.000 as Joshua in your illustration is getting initiated into the task ahead. He's first 785 00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:01.760 initiated by Moses, kind of his coach. And he's watched Moses model it now for 40 years with these 786 00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:05.440 people in the desert. And he's speaking it into him. He's like, you know, you're going to need 787 00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:09.600 to be strong. You're going to be courageous. And then we see later in the book of Joshua, 788 00:42:09.600 --> 00:42:16.000 where God does come back and stands on that encouragement from Moses, stamping it further 789 00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:22.560 into the heart of Joshua. So for me, that was just a reminder of, you know, when we hear thoughts, 790 00:42:22.560 --> 00:42:25.920 when we hear things and phrases in our mind, especially when we're trying to make change 791 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:32.960 and change the results, change the habits in our lives, that we start to maybe not replay the 792 00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:37.840 negative narratives, but we start to focus on and think about the people that have spoken life and 793 00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:44.240 positive things into our lives and really start to, you know, hang there, build the foundation, 794 00:42:44.240 --> 00:42:48.320 start the foundation on that. There's people that have believed in me along the way, even when I 795 00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:53.840 didn't believe in myself. And I just think that's huge as we start this process of journeying down 796 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.840 these nine habits. That's great. I'm excited to do it. I'm excited to do it with you. It's 797 00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:03.600 going to be fun. It's going to be great.