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All right, guys. Welcome to Men's Heartwork. Monday night, April 21st, 2025 is the date.

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So I'm glad you all could be here. There's probably going to be a couple more that jump

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on. There kind of usually is. And so just want to say that if this is your first time,

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looks like we do have one person that is new. Winston, is this your first time to heart

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check? Yeah, I just joined. I just signed up last week and went through everything but

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the last two videos for the first week section. Yeah, I'm almost done with that. Yeah. Wonderful.

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Where do you tell us a little bit about yourself? Where are you from? What do you do? Yeah,

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so I'm originally from Bay Area, California. I lived in New York City for 12 years. And

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then I moved to Colorado during COVID. And I've been here since. I'm in the kind of my

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backgrounds in finance and mortgages and real estate. And I'm kind of getting back into

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some kind of real estate stuff like investing. But I had kind of a long sabbatical, I guess

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you could say transition. And then I was visiting. I was on a trip with some friends last week.

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And one of our friends we were visiting kind of brought up this program. And so I thought

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it would be good. And I got one of my friends who's still living in New York to join as

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well. He couldn't be here tonight. But he'll be on next week's. What's his name? His name

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is Noel. Okay, yeah, I think I saw that. Yeah. So just let me get this straight. So you're

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not in New York, but you're in not in the Bay Area either. You're in Arizona? I'm in

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Denver, Denver. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Got it. Oh, wonderful. So in Denver, now you're in

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finance a little bit doing some things and getting some things back on point. Who are

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the friends that you were with that mentioned last year's thing? I'm just curious to see

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if I know them. It's my friend. It's a woman. It's my friend, Alessandra. She's in New Mexico

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City. Alessandra. Yeah, yeah. I think she's one of our affiliates as well. She's one of

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our students and she likes to. Yeah. Cool. That's awesome. She's the one that told us

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about it. Yeah. Super cool. Well, welcome then Winston. We take an opportunity on Monday

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nights to gather just the guys, whoever would like to join. And we just do a little heart

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check in. Sometimes we have an agenda. Sometimes we have just a chat. Sometimes we go down.

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Who's wanting to process something, process a relationship, process, you know, like certain

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aspect of what's going, what they're going through. So it can be a little random, but

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at the same time, it's usually pretty good discussion altogether. A lot of these guys

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are, most of these guys, all of these guys really are kind of our regular guys plus, plus

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others. So, um, um, so there's, there's good things to be had. Um, couple announcements,

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guys, Jackie is definitely in need of guys to be spotlighted tomorrow night on tomorrow

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night's single spotlight. That is on your calendar. That's one of the all community

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have, um, at least once a month, sometimes more than once a month, but, um, she's in

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need of guys to be spotlighted. So if you'd like to, um, volunteer for that, um, definitely

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write in to the admin at Jackie doorman.com and let them know. So take a note, do it now,

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make sure that you're getting spotlighted. And I want to encourage you to do it even

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if you don't want to, because it's necessary. It's important. The odds are in your favor,

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so to speak, even in the sense that just there's more women than there are guys. So this is

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your opportunity to just kind of put your best foot forward and practice and like, you

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know, just kind of put yourself out there. So tomorrow night, seven central eight Eastern,

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just like this time, um, all community channel it's in, it's on the calendar on the app there.

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Single spotlight.

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Yes.

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Is it possible to be spotlighted

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if you've already been spotlighted?

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I think it was just recently that you were spotlighted.

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Is that correct, Andy?

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I was spotlighted like...

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A couple of weeks ago.

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I think two months ago.

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A couple of months ago.

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A couple of months, about, yeah.

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I don't know how she's wanting to do that.

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I mean, she always wanted to get fresh faces

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and that kind of stuff.

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But at the same time, I don't know.

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You're just going to have to write in

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and they'll schedule it.

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Can't answer that question,

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because that's her deal.

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I just was told to make the announcement.

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How's that?

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That work for you?

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But definitely write in.

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Don't not write in, okay?

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To the email to get single spotlighted for tomorrow.

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And then next on the agenda,

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there will not be a men's heart check-in next week.

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There will not be one next week.

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Just wanted to give you that heads up.

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So we'll miss a week next week.

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And that is how that's going to go for next week.

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So I just want to give you a heads up for that.

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But we will resume the following week

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and get back after it.

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Kenton, I'll get to your hand in just a moment,

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but I want to go around.

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Easter was this past weekend.

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I hope y'all had a great Easter

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and hope you had a good time celebrating the risen Lord.

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And it was kind of cool on Faith Friday.

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We kind of went around,

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instead of bragging on Jesus

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on what he's doing in our lives,

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typically on Faith Friday,

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we use the opportunity to tell our testimonies

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with regard to what the Lord did this week,

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what the Lord, little breakthroughs

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and little just like God winks and different things

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and just what, like brag on Jesus sort of thing.

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And we did it in a different way.

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We took the opportunity to share some of the sort of like,

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what was your initial Jesus experience?

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What was your initial moment where you really met the Lord?

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Some people were like, I prayed a prayer a long time ago,

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but it wasn't until this moment or this thing

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or this something happened.

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I was going through something

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and the Lord really met me like,

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and I really understood that I was really truly saved

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and my life really changed.

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So it was just really kind of cool hearing those testimonies.

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Some people, they had that initial experience

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and then that's how they got saved.

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So it's just, it's different for everybody.

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I love to hear those stories.

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If somebody wants to share that tonight

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and if it's really on your heart to do,

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I wouldn't mind hearing that story

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if you wanted to share that tonight.

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But does anybody have a win?

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Anybody, something that you came like,

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hey, I want to share this on men's heartwork tonight.

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You got something that you came with to share specifically.

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Not that you just thought it up.

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I mean, I'm like, you came with it.

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Like, hey, I'm going to share this on men's heartwork.

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Anybody?

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Anybody, anybody, anybody?

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All right, no takers.

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All right, I'm going to go with you, Kenton.

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You get your hand raised.

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What's on your heart, man?

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Well, I just wanted to ask the question

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is that they started that algorithm system.

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Have they, are they still using it now?

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Cause I haven't, we haven't heard much more from it

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or about it.

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What do you mean?

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Well, she had the, you know,

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the match.

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That is, that is actually sort of internal for us

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to see what matches come up.

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It's kind of cool.

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Jackie, just about a week ago, two weeks ago,

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had a conversation with an app called Arc.

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Has anybody ever heard of Arc app?

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She was talking about that last week, I think.

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Oh, she, she mentioned it even last week

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on our men's call, right?

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And we are sort of starting an affiliation

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with that as a reference.

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They want there to be sort of relationship coaching,

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sort of a protocol.

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Our community, our protocol,

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and what we teach in last year's single on the heart work

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really fits with them.

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They really like the content and they've heard about it.

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They've been, you know, they came to us

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and people within our community connected with them

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and said, hey, you need to really reach out to Jackie.

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And so they reached out to us looking for a partner.

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on the relationship coaching side.

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And then they wanted to partner with us to offer

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when we have like as a sort of a bonus

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or sort of an add on to last year single program

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for our members and new people to get,

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I don't know if it's three months free or something,

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but a deal with signing up with a ARC dating app.

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And I know dating apps are notorious, I get it.

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Everybody hates the dating apps,

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but this particular app is an app

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that is for Christians made by Christians.

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All of the other Christian dating apps

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or sort of like good dating apps that are like nice,

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they're not Christian owned

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and they don't really actually have Christian people

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with Christian principles backing them.

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They're actually just someone who

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is really good with tech,

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they're really good with dating apps

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and they're really good at putting the marketing together

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and they see the Christian space as a market share.

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that truly is made for Christians by Christians

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with Christian principles.

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and just like weird.

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So it's actually kind of pretty cool.

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about what that might bring to the community

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and what it might bring to our community

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with regard to making increased matches.

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So again, we're not in the business really

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of trying to make matches,

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even though we do introduce people.

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So we're not trying to do matchmaking

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as much as we are trying to help people prepare

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for the time when they meet their significant other,

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when they meet their spirit mate,

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because there's so many different ways

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that people actually meet their spirit mate.

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it's like when you, it's just like field of dreams.

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You build it, they will come, seriously.

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And it is, if you prepare your heart,

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we've seen this time and time and time again

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where somebody does the work to shift their heart,

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to take care of some of their trauma,

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to really just step into a healthier version of themself,

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step into a more authentic version of who they are

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as a son or daughter of God, and things begin to shift.

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It happens every time.

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It's biblical, it's kingdom.

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It's not something that like, oh, we figured it out.

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No, it's just, we just grabbed on to the kingdom principle

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and said, hey, this is important.

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And it's something that's not really being valued

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in the relationship space today, right?

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Our whole culture is just like,

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oh, turn them and burn them.

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That's why the apps are so disparaging

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is because it's just like, you're just flipping through,

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and you're weighing an entire big relationship

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on such a minimal inkling of data,

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which is like the way they look,

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like, oh, not ugly, ugly, ugly.

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And so it's like, it's just so dismissive.

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And it's just not a healthy, good way

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to actually find your spirit mate,

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even though, ironically, we ask a lot of people,

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hey, how'd you meet?

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I'm like, that's amazing.

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Like, it's amazing that you connected initially that way.

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So there's nothing wrong with it.

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It's just how you use it, right?

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So anyway, I say all that to say

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that that's kind of what we're trying to do.

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We're just trying to really be in the business

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of just really helping people

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establish better relationships.

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So with that being said, who wants to dive in tonight?

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Who's got somethings on your mind?

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You got a relationship situation, question,

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something posed to the rest of the group?

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I have something.

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Go ahead, Andy.

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So David, you've talked about

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how you and Jackie both have ADHD.

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And I've been thinking about my own ADHD

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more recently again.

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And it's like, I feel like there's not really much hope

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for me to meet someone who will be understanding of me.

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It's just, sometimes it can be very difficult.

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Like all my past relationships ended because of it.

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And I'm just afraid that that's gonna keep happening

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over and over again.

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Well, I mean, I just,

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I'm very hopeful to every end.

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This may sound really cliche.

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It may sound really like, just like basic,

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but I don't know.

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I honestly believe there's someone for everyone.

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I really do.

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I mean, we don't really teach the one,

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like, oh, there's one person, you know,

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like, because obviously the math doesn't work on that.

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But I really believe there's definitely

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someone fashioned for everyone.

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That just, I mean, there's just too many,

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there's too many possibilities that,

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number one, that that's not true.

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And then number two, just the sheer goodness of God.

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So don't accept that as,

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don't accept that as a rule of thumb.

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Like, I'm just too afraid,

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as you know, it's happened so many times.

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So many incredible stories started with,

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I did this over and over and over and over

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and over and over again, and then one day, you know?

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Yeah.

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So just be hopeful in that.

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I really feel like your story is not gonna end with just,

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oh, Andy can't ever find anybody.

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Yeah.

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But, you know, attention deficit, man, it's a thing.

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And just like I said about, like, you know,

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it's not a matter of like if there's a sexuality problem,

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you know, like with most men,

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it's just a matter of like when and how.

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Because as, like I was saying, like as a generation,

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we have literally been like sexually assaulted.

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And we as a generation literally have been just confined

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to that eight second soundbite.

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Like our attention span has been, you know, abducted

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because of the way we're just fed completely with media

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and just the instantaneous gratification.

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You know, many call it 30 years ago,

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the microwave society.

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I mean, it's just really true.

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We expect to like, when you go,

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how many times have you lost your patience

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in the last week, anybody?

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Lost your patience at the traffic light.

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Lost your patience in the line.

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Lost your patience in the drive-thru.

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Lost your patience in the, you know,

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the internet didn't respond.

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Lost your patience when, you know, whatever.

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Like, I mean, we're so used to like things like,

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why is this happening?

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Why is it happening now?

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You know?

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Yeah.

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We're just conditioned to have that.

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So like your attention is, you know,

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being affected by that.

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And so obviously there's things we can do.

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There's things we should do.

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You know, meditation.

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There's all kinds of things we should do

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in order to combat that.

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And I really feel like spending time with the Lord

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in prayer and in just quiet time

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and solitude and worship and nature,

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wherever it is you connect with God, that's valuable.

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You have to cultivate that.

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That will help, I think, to sort of bring that,

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bring everything back into focus and daily.

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You know?

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That's something that I struggle with all the time.

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I'm like, why don't I do this every day?

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I ask myself, like, I'm so silly.

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Why don't I do, why?

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And like, this is so good.

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This is so refreshing.

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This is so, it's like, why wouldn't I do this every day?

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You know?

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And it's just, I don't have a reason for it.

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We endeavor to do it.

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We should.

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We need it.

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And we'll still contend for it.

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Super important.

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Who's got something on your heart, Mark?

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David?

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Well, two things.

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I just wanted to share.

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I had a cool joy moment.

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David from Vegas?

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Yeah.

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David headshot his hand up.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Let me go with him first and then we'll get to it.

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Yeah.

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You can't see it sitting way back there on your,

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way back there on your work.

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I'm over here doing my stuff.

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Sorry.

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Go ahead, Henshaw.

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I really like that Andy brought up this topic

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because being now 50 years old,

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basically about a month ago,

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I came into a revelation that I probably have it

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and I'm still trying to get diagnosed for ADHD

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and realize it's caused a lot of problems all my life

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with earning income, to relationships, to everything else.

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So yeah, but now knowing that it's there,

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now I can do something about it.

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So that's like a huge win after being in this group.

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So I just wanted to share that,

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but I'm still in process of mapping out

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all the details of that.

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So it's kind of like overwhelming.

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It's like a lot of moving pieces.

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You know, I think Jackie mentioned that like last week.

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It's like, I don't know if it was on the men's call

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or one of the sessions, but you know,

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some people are kind of hesitant to move forward

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because they got a lot of moving pieces.

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Then on top of that, I feel like God's calling me to,

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I guess, like move to,

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move to Austin.

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So I'm trying to still seeking confirmation on that,

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but it seems like it keeps coming up

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and I can't hide from it.

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So, but I mean, there's a few loose ends

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I need to tie up here before I do that,

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but it's, you know,

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within the next couple of months or something.

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So, so yeah.

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We talk about, you know,

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there's a couple of things coming up here now

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that they're now that you're mentioning this

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is I think Supernatural Saturday,

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Jackie was talking about pruning

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and she definitely was on Kingdom Seekers this morning.

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Kingdom Seekers is a part of a 100X movement.

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It's an entrepreneurial,

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sort of kingdom entrepreneurial movement.

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And Jackie guest speaks on that every occasionally,

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like once or twice a month in Kingdom Seekers.

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And she talked this morning about pruning

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and it's definitely a season.

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There's something happening.

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You know, there's an intrigue.

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There's a mystery in the spirit, in the world,

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a shaking, you know,

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regardless of how you're looking at the political landscape,

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the economic landscape,

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the world geographic and militaristic landscape

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and what you're thinking about this and that,

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whether you think it's turning for the good

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or the worst or whatever,

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there's just definitely an unsettling.

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Does anybody know, everybody know that the Pope died today?

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And I don't know if you knew that or not.

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And there's something like in that,

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it's just like, I don't know what it is.

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I'm not trying to focus on the Pope.

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What I'm just trying to say is,

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is that these things that happen,

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they're significant in terms of their occurrences

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and the underlying sort of spiritual weight

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that's happening.

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And there's a lot of people that are definitely

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very spiritually sensitive to like,

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why is like in a manifest sometimes in your personal life

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to where it's kind of like, why isn't this working out?

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Like, why is there just seem to be like this ceiling

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or this wall or this thing?

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Like, what is like, why is there this opposition?

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Why do I like, why am I processing this

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the way I'm processing it?

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Jackie was just kind of sharing her own struggles today

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and over the weekend and this kind of thing.

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And so there's definitely something,

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what I call current prophetic realities,

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which is basically a word that describes

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the time and space prophetically where we live, right?

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The time and space prophetically where we live today

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is different than the time and space prophetically

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that people lived in a hundred years ago,

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500 years ago, a thousand years ago.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like, what is the current prophetic reality

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that we're living in?

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Even though the human experience tends to be cyclical,

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history is cyclical, you know,

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the experience of mankind turns over and over again.

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There's times of war, times of peace,

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you know, all that kind of stuff.

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And they cycle through.

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And even though those cycles are real,

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in some ways we're experienced humanity

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the way some other people did in certain other peacetimes,

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there still is a current trend of prophetic reality

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that is occurring where we live today.

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And so like, what does that mean to you?

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Like, what that means to you in some ways is that,

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hey, what's going on in you, you know,

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it isn't necessarily, you know, you just being a screw up,

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you just not being able to get it together.

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You just like, you know, my life sucks.

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We always, as individuals,

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that's a very human characteristic

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to basically process things through our own filter.

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Like my life's not going the way I want it to go,

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therefore I'm having a hard time.

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And of course, then immediately human nature is just like,

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it's my fault, you know?

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So we start internalizing that, what's wrong with me?

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What's wrong, why, you know, what's wrong with my life?

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And maybe it's not me, but it's my life that happened to me.

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and therefore this is the way,

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this is why I am the way I am, right?

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And we have to like, we have to war against that.

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We have to come against that.

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Part of heart work is dealing with the trauma

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that yes, happened to you and happened with you

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and happened even possibly even through you

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and dealing with that and coming into a healthy state.

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But it also requires us to cast off heaviness.

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It requires us to cast off and by faith

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exchange our weariness, our heaviness

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with a garment of praise.

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This may not be what you want to hear today,

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but it requires us to like, get out of the funk

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by either praising our way through,

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practicing gratitude, getting a different perspective

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on, hey, this really isn't,

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a lot of this doesn't have anything to do with me.

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I'm just being affected by this.

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By the current prophetic reality.

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And the word says that I can have abundant life.

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The word says that I can have an overcoming life.

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The word says that I can have it different.

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The word says that I'm above and not beneath.

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And so I want to start stepping into that,

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not just because I want to be prosperous

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or like better than other people,

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but because you want to come into the fullness

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of who you really are.

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God didn't call you to be less than what your potential is.

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God didn't call you to be down in the muck and mire

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of your existence.

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God didn't call you to,

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even though that's part of life a little bit,

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to walk through the valley,

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but he's calling you up to a higher place.

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Some of that is casting off the heaviness.

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And then some of that also is accepting the responsibility

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and stepping into a higher level of activity,

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a higher level of responsibility,

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a higher level of accountability,

513
00:27:38.820 --> 00:27:41.840
a higher level of, you know what?

514
00:27:41.840 --> 00:27:42.800
This is not right for me.

515
00:27:42.800 --> 00:27:44.000
This is not good for me.

516
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:50.180
There's, I can do better with God's help,

517
00:27:51.060 --> 00:27:52.600
with the help of Holy Spirit.

518
00:27:52.600 --> 00:27:56.080
I can be more of who I really am as a son of God.

519
00:27:58.140 --> 00:28:00.640
And when you start processing that and working that,

520
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:01.820
and that is your work,

521
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.320
then you start really getting some breakthrough.

522
00:28:08.280 --> 00:28:09.780
Is this tracking with anybody?

523
00:28:11.520 --> 00:28:12.360
Yep.

524
00:28:13.320 --> 00:28:14.160
Good stuff?

525
00:28:15.020 --> 00:28:16.160
Yeah.

526
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:17.000
Encouraging?

527
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:18.920
Well, from your perspective.

528
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:19.760
What's that?

529
00:28:20.700 --> 00:28:22.600
Grateful for your perspective on that.

530
00:28:24.140 --> 00:28:26.700
Well, and I think, I hear what you're saying, Thomas.

531
00:28:26.700 --> 00:28:29.140
I just, I didn't, I'm missing one of the words

532
00:28:29.140 --> 00:28:29.980
you're saying there.

533
00:28:29.980 --> 00:28:33.580
Oh, I said, I'm grateful for your perspective on that.

534
00:28:33.580 --> 00:28:34.680
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

535
00:28:35.980 --> 00:28:37.380
Well, and I think, you know, there's, you know,

536
00:28:37.380 --> 00:28:39.720
there's that song, Praise Before You Breakthrough.

537
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:40.820
That's one of my favorite songs,

538
00:28:40.820 --> 00:28:42.420
like one of my favorite warfare songs.

539
00:28:42.420 --> 00:28:45.620
And, you know, like transitions are hard.

540
00:28:45.620 --> 00:28:48.500
Like when you're, when one thing's dying

541
00:28:48.540 --> 00:28:50.420
before the new thing's growing,

542
00:28:50.420 --> 00:28:52.140
and like, unless the seed falls into the ground,

543
00:28:52.140 --> 00:28:53.900
it can't bear much fruit, right?

544
00:28:53.900 --> 00:28:55.740
And, you know, I've been in that season for,

545
00:28:55.740 --> 00:28:57.100
seems like forever.

546
00:28:57.100 --> 00:29:00.980
And, you know, and like, just depression is, you know,

547
00:29:00.980 --> 00:29:03.700
every day, like wanting to overtake me.

548
00:29:03.700 --> 00:29:05.460
But it's like, Lord, I'm gonna, like, even if,

549
00:29:05.460 --> 00:29:07.740
I've just like, like, even if,

550
00:29:07.740 --> 00:29:11.180
even if none of this changes, I'm still gonna praise you.

551
00:29:11.180 --> 00:29:13.740
I mean, I was doing worship, writing, you know,

552
00:29:13.740 --> 00:29:16.380
I don't really write songs, but I play songs.

553
00:29:16.380 --> 00:29:17.980
You know, I was just doing worship songs.

554
00:29:18.500 --> 00:29:20.700
I'm like, you know, enemy, you can come at me,

555
00:29:20.700 --> 00:29:22.500
but I'm just gonna praise the Lord.

556
00:29:22.500 --> 00:29:23.660
And you can watch me worship,

557
00:29:23.660 --> 00:29:27.060
even in the midst of a rough season, you know?

558
00:29:27.060 --> 00:29:29.580
But like, I guess, like, you know,

559
00:29:29.580 --> 00:29:32.780
transition is usually, I mean, one thing's dying,

560
00:29:32.780 --> 00:29:34.900
and then for another thing going, right?

561
00:29:34.900 --> 00:29:36.780
And so, and that's-

562
00:29:36.780 --> 00:29:38.740
Yeah, it causes you to start paying attention

563
00:29:38.740 --> 00:29:42.860
to what is dying and what needs to die.

564
00:29:42.860 --> 00:29:44.900
Yeah, yeah, and kill it.

565
00:29:45.900 --> 00:29:50.900
And what needs to come to life, your life.

566
00:29:50.900 --> 00:29:53.860
Anybody have anything that's like that?

567
00:29:53.860 --> 00:29:56.340
It's like, I realize, I'm thinking about this,

568
00:29:56.340 --> 00:29:59.700
like, anything need to die in your life?

569
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:11.000
anything need to like go away in your life my feeling of being the jailer the

570
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:19.040
jailer yeah like in the terms of like child rearing my niece's developmentally

571
00:30:19.040 --> 00:30:27.100
delayed largely in part to how my brother and his ex-wife attempt to be

572
00:30:27.100 --> 00:30:33.180
parents he goes over to her mom's house and they pretty much treat her like a

573
00:30:33.180 --> 00:30:38.220
princess and she can do no wrong and she comes over here to order and

574
00:30:38.220 --> 00:30:45.780
structure and resist it by like screaming or hitting my brother hissing

575
00:30:45.780 --> 00:30:52.500
at him hitting my mom and I just walk in the room I'm like hey eat your food you

576
00:30:52.500 --> 00:30:57.500
know in a loud bellowing voice and I don't like doing that but at the same

577
00:30:57.500 --> 00:31:03.940
time I know that that gets results lickety-split with no arguments because

578
00:31:03.940 --> 00:31:10.340
that's how my grandfather raised me but I don't like when I have children I

579
00:31:10.340 --> 00:31:18.580
don't want to be like that ever you know like yeah there's a whole other

580
00:31:18.580 --> 00:31:22.820
discussion we could have on child rearing and I have a thing about that

581
00:31:22.820 --> 00:31:29.140
but I don't necessarily there's that there's a very very fine line between a

582
00:31:29.140 --> 00:31:35.980
voice of authority and a voice that's abusive and I'm not saying that's good

583
00:31:35.980 --> 00:31:40.740
I'm just saying there is a line there is a difference like you can have an

584
00:31:40.740 --> 00:31:45.340
assertive voice of authority I just had my two and a half year old grandchildren

585
00:31:45.340 --> 00:31:52.140
here for a week and I love my kids and I love my grandkids but those little

586
00:31:52.140 --> 00:31:59.380
babies they will run you ragged man and I love my daughter and she is she's

587
00:31:59.380 --> 00:32:04.220
mother of the year she really is she's incredible she like makes like she

588
00:32:04.220 --> 00:32:07.620
doesn't like just prepare food I mean she actually makes the food like she's

589
00:32:07.620 --> 00:32:13.580
really holistic and she's very concerned and she's very like into research the

590
00:32:13.580 --> 00:32:17.140
well-being of her children and she's just she's amazing right she's

591
00:32:17.140 --> 00:32:22.580
incredible my son-in-law is incredible he's a tremendous provider he's a kind

592
00:32:22.580 --> 00:32:29.700
man he's a good husband they're good people but those little babies run them

593
00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:36.980
like they ain't the parents and I'm like man like I ain't like but the what's

594
00:32:36.980 --> 00:32:41.180
funny about it is they literally said because there was one night we like

595
00:32:41.180 --> 00:32:44.740
watch the babies why they went out well over here was hey you guys go out you

596
00:32:44.740 --> 00:32:48.820
know what's watch the babies right and like yeah they'll probably be better for

597
00:32:48.820 --> 00:32:53.180
you and everybody tells us they're always better for people when we're not

598
00:32:53.180 --> 00:33:01.060
around I'm like really like yeah and the thing about it is is just I'm just gonna

599
00:33:01.060 --> 00:33:07.860
lovingly say this on my kids my kids haven't come to the point where they

600
00:33:07.860 --> 00:33:16.020
have well let me tell you a story first my mother raised me with like an iron

601
00:33:16.020 --> 00:33:20.820
fist all right like just like not not abusively but she was just really like

602
00:33:20.820 --> 00:33:24.060
look you're gonna do this and you're gonna like finish your homework and you

603
00:33:24.060 --> 00:33:27.900
like she just wanted to make sure I was going to do all the things I was

604
00:33:27.900 --> 00:33:32.780
supposed to do and she fed me well and she vitamins and you know always made

605
00:33:32.820 --> 00:33:38.300
sure that I had clothes provided for and clean she was a great mom wonderful but

606
00:33:38.300 --> 00:33:43.540
she told me the story when I was about I think three or four years old I was

607
00:33:43.540 --> 00:33:48.860
pitching a tantrum I was pitching a fit I was down on the floor I was giving it

608
00:33:48.860 --> 00:33:55.860
the best toddler tantrum I could do and she said no we're not doing this and I

609
00:33:55.860 --> 00:33:59.740
don't even know what it was I can't remember and she said no we're not doing

610
00:33:59.740 --> 00:34:04.140
this and so I went into this tantrum and she just was like what in the world

611
00:34:04.140 --> 00:34:09.420
has gotten in with you like what what is wrong with you child like why are you so

612
00:34:09.420 --> 00:34:15.219
you know just basically dramatizing your antics here right like was this going

613
00:34:15.219 --> 00:34:21.060
away overboard and I literally stopped in my tears this is what she told me

614
00:34:21.060 --> 00:34:28.460
four years old three years old whatever it was and I said sometimes when I cry

615
00:34:28.460 --> 00:34:38.340
and scream you change your mind and I knew at three or four years old that I

616
00:34:38.340 --> 00:34:44.380
could manipulate the situation with my antics and children even at two and a

617
00:34:44.380 --> 00:34:49.380
half know that they can manipulate you with their antics and it was at that

618
00:34:49.380 --> 00:34:56.139
point my mom said oh no you're not going to be in charge of this situation I'm

619
00:34:56.139 --> 00:35:01.980
going to be the mother and that's she was she became very firm at that point

620
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.760
And she was a wonderful mother in that way.

621
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:05.600
And so I just knew instinctively when I raised my children,

622
00:35:05.600 --> 00:35:08.640
I was not gonna have those kids.

623
00:35:08.640 --> 00:35:12.680
They just weren't gonna be, I mean, I will pull them aside.

624
00:35:12.680 --> 00:35:14.680
I whisper in their ear things like,

625
00:35:14.680 --> 00:35:16.560
if you don't settle down right now,

626
00:35:16.560 --> 00:35:19.600
I will take you out into the car

627
00:35:19.600 --> 00:35:21.840
and we will have a very serious talk

628
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:23.160
and you're not gonna like it at all.

629
00:35:23.160 --> 00:35:25.060
Do you understand me?

630
00:35:25.060 --> 00:35:27.760
That was what I would whisper into my child's ear.

631
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:29.120
And that's what I sound like, so.

632
00:35:29.160 --> 00:35:30.440
Yeah, and they straightened up.

633
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.760
So there's nothing wrong with a voice of authority

634
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:37.760
that's firm versus a voice of sternness

635
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:41.160
to be cruel and punishing and just overbearing

636
00:35:41.160 --> 00:35:43.360
and controlling and abusive.

637
00:35:45.120 --> 00:35:48.960
So there's a world of difference in how it comes out

638
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:51.240
and the love from which it comes

639
00:35:51.240 --> 00:35:54.480
versus the bitterness from which other comes,

640
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:55.640
especially in parenting.

641
00:35:55.640 --> 00:35:57.360
And if you're not a parent, like a good uncle,

642
00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:59.880
a good family member, a good grandfather,

643
00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:03.440
a good, you know, a good man, period.

644
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:04.280
And that's what I was gonna-

645
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:05.520
You don't have to have your own children.

646
00:36:05.520 --> 00:36:09.360
You can just be a good man to other people's kids.

647
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:12.280
That's a wonderful, wonderful thing.

648
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.480
Like I took my niece to the park.

649
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:18.440
I said, listen, Melody, you're gonna listen to me.

650
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:20.400
You're gonna hold my hand the entire time

651
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.880
until I release you to the playground

652
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:24.960
because there could be a wild dog out here.

653
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:28.560
There could be tigers and lions and bears on my,

654
00:36:28.560 --> 00:36:30.760
or however the phrase goes.

655
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:31.600
How old is she?

656
00:36:31.600 --> 00:36:33.520
And she just turned four yesterday.

657
00:36:33.520 --> 00:36:34.360
Four, okay, yeah.

658
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:35.520
Yeah.

659
00:36:35.520 --> 00:36:38.800
He listened to me 100%, didn't throw a fit, nothing.

660
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:41.600
When she's around her dad or her mom, she throws a fit.

661
00:36:41.600 --> 00:36:43.880
Here's why, because children not only know

662
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:45.360
that they can manipulate you,

663
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:49.560
children are instinctively geared to know

664
00:36:49.560 --> 00:36:51.520
who they can trust and who's in charge.

665
00:36:52.560 --> 00:36:54.600
And it just blows my mind, though.

666
00:36:55.240 --> 00:36:57.360
Especially at that age of innocence,

667
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:01.400
they're going to trust somebody who they feel safe with.

668
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:03.320
And somebody who is firm with them,

669
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:05.560
that lovingly is firm with them,

670
00:37:05.560 --> 00:37:08.320
and is playful and loving and all that kind of stuff,

671
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:11.800
but at the same time, also willing to go firm

672
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:15.080
for the sake of safety and all that kind of stuff,

673
00:37:15.080 --> 00:37:17.320
that person, they will trust that.

674
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:20.680
They know that, oh, this person's safe.

675
00:37:20.680 --> 00:37:22.840
This person has my best interest.

676
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:24.920
And they're learning at that age,

677
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:27.320
everything they need to know

678
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:29.960
about whether the world is safe or dangerous.

679
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.560
Before the age of five, psychologists say

680
00:37:33.560 --> 00:37:36.360
that we literally intrinsically know,

681
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:39.480
based on our childhood, whether the world is safe,

682
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:40.760
whether the world is dangerous,

683
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:43.800
whether the world, all these things

684
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:45.600
in terms of relationship.

685
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:49.720
So if you want to know how you became who you are,

686
00:37:49.720 --> 00:37:52.320
go back to five years old,

687
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.400
and kind of think of like, what was going on in my life?

688
00:37:57.320 --> 00:37:59.080
Up until five years old, what was happening?

689
00:37:59.080 --> 00:38:00.640
What was my family situation like?

690
00:38:00.640 --> 00:38:01.640
Da, da, da, da, da.

691
00:38:02.680 --> 00:38:05.680
And probably just be some very, very valuable insight.

692
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:08.840
Definitely stuff for heart work.

693
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:10.040
Good stuff, yeah.

694
00:38:10.040 --> 00:38:10.880
Yeah.

695
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:11.800
Thomas, did you have your hand raised?

696
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:12.920
I thought I had your hand raised,

697
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:14.440
or you were just responding to something earlier.

698
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:15.880
I don't, I can't remember.

699
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.360
Sorry, were you talking to me?

700
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:18.200
Yes.

701
00:38:18.240 --> 00:38:20.280
Yes, yeah, absolutely.

702
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:21.320
Yeah.

703
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:25.320
Yeah, when you were asking kind of about this process,

704
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:27.200
but David, you just raised your hand again.

705
00:38:27.200 --> 00:38:31.120
Well, I'll go after you, share yours, Thomas.

706
00:38:31.120 --> 00:38:33.120
I just had one question, but it was,

707
00:38:33.120 --> 00:38:34.320
I'll share it after you.

708
00:38:35.520 --> 00:38:38.520
Yeah, so I was reading a book

709
00:38:38.520 --> 00:38:40.040
called The Fifth Discipline this morning

710
00:38:40.040 --> 00:38:41.120
about systems theory,

711
00:38:41.120 --> 00:38:43.480
and it was talking about learning organizations

712
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:47.080
and how it's not enough to just learn things.

713
00:38:47.080 --> 00:38:49.600
You have to actually like apply your learning

714
00:38:49.600 --> 00:38:51.080
in what you do.

715
00:38:51.080 --> 00:38:53.880
It was pretty painful, I felt like, to read that.

716
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:56.280
And so I think something,

717
00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:57.840
a lot of things kind of came to mind.

718
00:38:57.840 --> 00:38:59.680
I realized how easy it is for me

719
00:38:59.680 --> 00:39:03.640
to just keep on absorbing information

720
00:39:03.640 --> 00:39:08.640
and not kind of like integrate that kind of information

721
00:39:09.200 --> 00:39:10.840
into what I'm actually doing.

722
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:12.760
So looking around my room, I was like,

723
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:14.400
wow, you know, my room could really stand

724
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:17.160
to be more orderly.

725
00:39:17.160 --> 00:39:19.800
There are dishes kind of like by the sink,

726
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:21.720
and yet it's easy for me to like sit here

727
00:39:21.720 --> 00:39:24.840
and watch Shark Tank because I think that,

728
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:26.880
you know, I need to learn about business,

729
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:29.400
you know, and like that kind of stuff.

730
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:32.360
So I think, I don't know.

731
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:34.600
I think that's something, I just,

732
00:39:34.600 --> 00:39:37.040
in the book they said that Harley Davidson,

733
00:39:37.040 --> 00:39:39.920
they have a phrase called AFP,

734
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:42.000
which means another effing program.

735
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:44.160
Yeah.

736
00:39:44.160 --> 00:39:47.360
And so figuring out how to not just kind of keep doing that,

737
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:50.000
I think that's something that needs to die for me.

738
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:50.840
That's good.

739
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:51.680
I love that.

740
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:55.080
You know, something you said about

741
00:39:55.080 --> 00:39:59.360
in terms of like taking knowledge and applying it,

742
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:00.200
one of the best.

743
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:06.000
ways that I think anybody can do that is take a body of knowledge or maybe in a

744
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:11.920
lesson or something and prepare to teach it and a lot of people will say oh I'm

745
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:15.240
not a teacher or I'm not really a like you know they they think like formal

746
00:40:15.240 --> 00:40:18.680
educator or like even just in like layman's terms like no I've never I'm

747
00:40:18.680 --> 00:40:22.480
not really a teacher I don't teach anything but I tell you what it's a

748
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:27.000
really good lesson and just self-development to prepare a lesson as

749
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:32.880
if you were to teach something even though you have nowhere to teach it and

750
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:37.080
I actually did this before I actually ever became a teacher I was a teacher

751
00:40:37.080 --> 00:40:43.040
for nine years and I was in ministry and it was a great honor to be able to have

752
00:40:43.040 --> 00:40:49.280
been considered having something to say to teach and I taught Bible college for

753
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:54.560
nine years and I taught high school now that is really really it like you don't

754
00:40:54.560 --> 00:40:58.920
you all don't understand this about me but what's because what you don't

755
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:05.960
understand is like when I was growing up I mean I was always lost I was lost in

756
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:13.080
my thoughts I was lost in the hinterlands I was a dreamer I was always

757
00:41:13.080 --> 00:41:18.720
just imagining things and creating things and architecting things and I was

758
00:41:18.720 --> 00:41:24.360
constantly in trouble for that like my parents were trying to teach me to be so

759
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:32.120
responsible they could not embrace the fact that I was a creative so therefore

760
00:41:32.120 --> 00:41:38.000
in their effort to try to train me to quote be present responsible do your

761
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:43.160
duties da da da da da da they sort of like would beat out the creativity out

762
00:41:43.160 --> 00:41:52.400
of me or wouldn't let me or wouldn't fan the flames of my creativity they

763
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:56.880
wouldn't champion oh you're so amazing at this we need to help you get into a

764
00:41:56.880 --> 00:42:04.000
program or a discipline or he said something to sort of enhance that right

765
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:09.400
I know this now because I understand a lot of things and I've lived some life

766
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:13.120
and I can look back and see that not trying to hold that against my parents

767
00:42:13.120 --> 00:42:15.720
and I'm trying to hold you know I'm trying to be angry about it although I

768
00:42:15.720 --> 00:42:20.840
was frustrated for a period of time in my life about that because I'm like but

769
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:25.360
then I realized I can't just sit there and blame my parents for whatever right

770
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:32.560
but at the same time me teaching me talking in front of people and

771
00:42:32.560 --> 00:42:37.720
articulating an idea and coming across that anything that made sense was just

772
00:42:37.720 --> 00:42:43.600
like never David a little Davy Dorman no he could never do anything like that and

773
00:42:43.600 --> 00:42:50.720
I got into ministry work and I was sort of like you know trying to that was like

774
00:42:50.720 --> 00:42:54.960
I was getting a lot of fulfillment I was doing and I saw I was never in a

775
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:59.240
position to be asked to be a teacher because I was like oh man that would be

776
00:42:59.240 --> 00:43:03.640
incredible if I if somebody ever asked me to teach a class that'd be incredible

777
00:43:03.640 --> 00:43:11.200
and one day I got the opportunity but I had this inkling anybody have you ever

778
00:43:11.200 --> 00:43:15.200
had sort of a feeling in your gut like you were gonna do something but you've

779
00:43:15.200 --> 00:43:20.120
never did it before but you're like I feel like this is gonna happen to me I

780
00:43:20.120 --> 00:43:23.480
feel like in this next season there's gonna be like I'm gonna be doing this

781
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:30.320
and such right that happened to me with teaching and it was 2000 when I got my

782
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:43.440
first class and but I began to prepare to teach before I was ever a teacher and

783
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:49.200
I would talk out loud to the mirrors the wall to the empty room whatever and I

784
00:43:49.200 --> 00:43:52.480
would be thinking about an idea and then I would just start talking about it

785
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:56.920
as if I was teaching it as if I was talking about if I was training other

786
00:43:56.920 --> 00:44:03.440
people in it and preparing to teach something is the absolute best way to

787
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:07.920
learn something and actually have it part of who you are part of your

788
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:12.560
repertoire to where you can actually sound authoritative on it because it's

789
00:44:12.560 --> 00:44:16.440
one thing to learn something it's one day to think something but then once you

790
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:24.040
articulate it and try to make it sense to someone else it becomes a real strong

791
00:44:24.040 --> 00:44:31.120
part of like you learn way more like I think hearing and listening and

792
00:44:31.120 --> 00:44:37.400
understanding a concept you get about 20 30 40 percent maybe of the of the

793
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:42.080
understanding the true understanding of whatever it is you're studying versus

794
00:44:42.240 --> 00:44:47.760
you prepare to teach it you go into the 70 and 80th percentile of understanding

795
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:52.320
what you're really saying because you prepared the information enough to where

796
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:57.960
you can articulate it and teach it back to somebody so I encourage you to do

797
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:01.840
that Thomas and

798
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.160
I really believe that you might have an opportunity

799
00:45:02.160 --> 00:45:07.360
to teach, or train, or use that gift set, that knowledge set,

800
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.000
to be able to help others.

801
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:10.400
I don't know what that looks like.

802
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:11.600
It may be a classroom.

803
00:45:11.600 --> 00:45:15.160
It may be, I don't know if it's formal education.

804
00:45:15.160 --> 00:45:16.080
Maybe it's not.

805
00:45:16.080 --> 00:45:18.540
Maybe it's like training in the marketplace.

806
00:45:18.540 --> 00:45:19.120
I don't know.

807
00:45:19.120 --> 00:45:20.580
I don't know what that looks like.

808
00:45:20.580 --> 00:45:23.240
It could be hundreds of different iterations.

809
00:45:23.240 --> 00:45:25.680
I just taught a workshop last week here on campus.

810
00:45:25.680 --> 00:45:27.520
Love it.

811
00:45:27.520 --> 00:45:29.800
And that was your, is the first time you've done that?

812
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:31.080
Or you do that often?

813
00:45:31.080 --> 00:45:33.440
No, pretty often.

814
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:34.160
Pretty often.

815
00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:35.400
Love it.

816
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:38.720
So you're already in the space to where

817
00:45:38.720 --> 00:45:40.000
that's an opportunity for you.

818
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:41.360
I love that.

819
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:44.560
And that makes total sense.

820
00:45:44.560 --> 00:45:46.640
And do you feel fulfilled in that?

821
00:45:46.640 --> 00:45:49.040
You feel like you're helping and changing people's lives

822
00:45:49.040 --> 00:45:51.280
by teaching and training?

823
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:52.120
Sometimes.

824
00:45:52.120 --> 00:45:58.200
I think my family, I feel like my family has a teacher gift.

825
00:45:58.240 --> 00:46:02.720
But we don't really have an application gift.

826
00:46:02.720 --> 00:46:03.920
So I think that.

827
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:05.760
What do you mean by that?

828
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:12.800
I mean that, and I want to be very careful

829
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:14.520
to honor everyone in my family.

830
00:46:14.520 --> 00:46:17.360
So I'll just say maybe for me and some patterns

831
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:23.160
that I picked up, that there can be things that I've heard

832
00:46:23.160 --> 00:46:24.680
that I can explain to other people

833
00:46:24.680 --> 00:46:26.760
that I don't do myself in ways that

834
00:46:27.200 --> 00:46:29.560
are hypocritical and pharisaical.

835
00:46:29.560 --> 00:46:31.560
Not only in the religious context,

836
00:46:31.560 --> 00:46:34.400
but also in a lot of other contexts.

837
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.280
So I think it's very easy for me to be like, oh, yeah,

838
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.800
well, you should do this, and you should do that.

839
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:45.280
When my own situation needs to receive some attention.

840
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:48.040
Well, there's a beauty in that, though.

841
00:46:48.040 --> 00:46:51.080
Because it really does challenge you.

842
00:46:51.080 --> 00:46:55.840
Because in my life, OK, so take it out of the teaching thing.

843
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.400
Say I don't really teach anymore in classes

844
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:01.320
like I used to.

845
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:04.320
But maybe stewarding a group like this,

846
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:08.440
or maybe trying to do a business like we're doing now.

847
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:09.680
Incidentally, I don't know.

848
00:47:09.680 --> 00:47:11.840
I think I mentioned the wheelhouse last week,

849
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:14.640
or Jackie did, or I might have talked about it before.

850
00:47:14.640 --> 00:47:18.200
And if you don't understand what that is, I'll tell you.

851
00:47:18.200 --> 00:47:24.680
But stepping into a level of stewardship

852
00:47:24.720 --> 00:47:27.360
requires you to kind of have that response

853
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.680
to where it's like, you don't feel worthy

854
00:47:30.680 --> 00:47:34.280
in a lot of ways sometimes because of that very reason.

855
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:36.760
Like, well, I'm not that, so how can I teach that?

856
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:37.600
Or how can I show that?

857
00:47:37.600 --> 00:47:38.640
Whatever.

858
00:47:38.640 --> 00:47:40.680
But it's an invitation.

859
00:47:40.680 --> 00:47:45.160
It's a beautiful thing for whatever you're working through.

860
00:47:45.160 --> 00:47:47.400
Because first of all, you have to realize

861
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.640
that there's a divinity in the skill set

862
00:47:49.640 --> 00:47:52.080
that God gave you for this purpose

863
00:47:52.080 --> 00:47:54.080
that's trying to be worked out in you.

864
00:47:54.600 --> 00:47:58.240
It's not a way to say, you can't do this.

865
00:47:58.240 --> 00:48:02.520
It's a way to say, hey, I need you to do this.

866
00:48:02.520 --> 00:48:04.520
And in order for you to do this well,

867
00:48:04.520 --> 00:48:07.360
I'm inviting you to step into the truth

868
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.440
or the power of what it is you're teaching

869
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:12.960
or whatever it is you're putting forth.

870
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:17.880
So it's a beautiful way to transition yourself

871
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:22.560
into like, hey, I'm not only going to teach this,

872
00:48:22.560 --> 00:48:24.440
but I'm going to live this.

873
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:25.680
I'm going to change this about me

874
00:48:25.680 --> 00:48:30.160
and I'm going to step into a greater purpose.

875
00:48:30.160 --> 00:48:31.240
And that's awesome.

876
00:48:31.240 --> 00:48:33.000
That's a good thing, actually.

877
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:35.000
I know, because I know,

878
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:36.600
and I've struggled with it though before,

879
00:48:36.600 --> 00:48:38.920
because I'm like, oh, how could I?

880
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:41.240
Because I'm not this and that, blah, blah, blah.

881
00:48:41.240 --> 00:48:46.240
And then, you know, like, even my fatherhood,

882
00:48:46.640 --> 00:48:48.640
I'm like, I'm not that great of a father.

883
00:48:48.640 --> 00:48:52.480
I'm not like, you know, whatever ideal I think of,

884
00:48:53.240 --> 00:48:54.080
whatever.

885
00:48:54.080 --> 00:48:55.560
And then your kids come along and they go,

886
00:48:55.560 --> 00:48:57.120
dad, you're so great.

887
00:48:57.120 --> 00:48:58.440
I'm like, really?

888
00:48:58.440 --> 00:48:59.720
Like, why?

889
00:48:59.720 --> 00:49:01.040
Why do you think that?

890
00:49:01.040 --> 00:49:02.680
Because you're my dad and you're good.

891
00:49:02.680 --> 00:49:03.520
And I love you.

892
00:49:03.520 --> 00:49:06.240
And, you know, there was that one time when blah, blah, blah

893
00:49:06.240 --> 00:49:07.920
and they're like, and it just blows you away.

894
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:10.120
You're like, I had no idea.

895
00:49:10.120 --> 00:49:11.600
That's incredible.

896
00:49:11.600 --> 00:49:12.520
That's powerful.

897
00:49:12.520 --> 00:49:14.000
And that's just like, okay.

898
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.480
You know, and then that encourages me to step

899
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:19.240
into being a better father,

900
00:49:19.680 --> 00:49:21.800
being a better father, even to other people

901
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:23.200
that aren't even my kids.

902
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:29.360
So I have now a season of life where, like Jackie and I,

903
00:49:29.680 --> 00:49:32.280
we're starting, we have influence with a lot

904
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:36.200
of young people, not teenagers, but like a lot of like,

905
00:49:36.200 --> 00:49:37.960
sort of like young adults.

906
00:49:39.160 --> 00:49:41.560
In entrepreneur, and this is part of the reason

907
00:49:41.560 --> 00:49:43.680
what we're doing with Wheelhouse.

908
00:49:43.680 --> 00:49:48.200
We have just leased a 2,900 square foot space

909
00:49:49.160 --> 00:49:54.160
that's dedicated to creatives who want to belong.

910
00:49:58.520 --> 00:49:59.920
So it's like our tagline.

911
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.480
playing as a wheelhouse, a creative space to belong.

912
00:50:05.680 --> 00:50:10.680
So there are individuals that have entrepreneurial gifts

913
00:50:11.240 --> 00:50:16.240
that need a little bit more relationship with Jesus.

914
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:17.880
And there are other people

915
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:19.560
who have a good relationship with Jesus,

916
00:50:19.560 --> 00:50:22.880
but they need an expansion of their entrepreneurial gift set

917
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:24.560
and their creative gift set.

918
00:50:24.560 --> 00:50:28.080
So we have a space now dedicated to foster that

919
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:30.760
with all kinds of things.

920
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.080
So on its face, it's just an event space.

921
00:50:34.080 --> 00:50:36.680
It's a space that people could rent out.

922
00:50:36.680 --> 00:50:38.060
But at the same time,

923
00:50:38.060 --> 00:50:40.840
it's a space for us to conduct workshops,

924
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:45.080
to conduct trainings, to conduct gatherings,

925
00:50:45.080 --> 00:50:48.320
to conduct meetups, to conduct business,

926
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:50.260
to actually have pop-up stores,

927
00:50:50.260 --> 00:50:53.340
to conduct spiritual gatherings

928
00:50:53.340 --> 00:50:58.260
where we're really just there to do a worship night

929
00:50:58.260 --> 00:51:03.260
or do somebody's film, what do you call them?

930
00:51:04.060 --> 00:51:06.100
Like a red carpet event, like a film.

931
00:51:06.100 --> 00:51:07.220
Like a premiere.

932
00:51:07.220 --> 00:51:08.060
Premiere, that's what it is.

933
00:51:08.060 --> 00:51:09.300
Montage.

934
00:51:09.300 --> 00:51:13.820
Yeah, to open it up for an open mic night.

935
00:51:13.820 --> 00:51:16.080
So there's this space and it's so cool

936
00:51:16.080 --> 00:51:20.460
because during the day,

937
00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:23.220
we'll have hours that we can open it up

938
00:51:23.220 --> 00:51:25.780
for people to come in and do coworking.

939
00:51:25.780 --> 00:51:27.400
My son-in-law has a coffee cart.

940
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:31.340
He's gonna be serving coffee and he loves to serve people.

941
00:51:31.340 --> 00:51:35.300
He loves to just make people feel good with coffee.

942
00:51:35.300 --> 00:51:36.500
So he has that heart.

943
00:51:36.500 --> 00:51:38.940
He just likes to make people feel welcome.

944
00:51:38.940 --> 00:51:41.340
And so he has a hospitality sort of gifting going on.

945
00:51:41.340 --> 00:51:42.780
He just loves people.

946
00:51:42.780 --> 00:51:44.620
So he's gonna have that going.

947
00:51:44.620 --> 00:51:49.140
And my son has a design business.

948
00:51:49.140 --> 00:51:50.500
So he'll be running his design business

949
00:51:50.500 --> 00:51:53.660
out of that place in the back office.

950
00:51:53.660 --> 00:51:57.780
So you can just imagine this place that's dedicated.

951
00:51:57.780 --> 00:52:02.340
It's almost guys like, wow, unbelievable.

952
00:52:02.340 --> 00:52:04.700
It's almost like a church.

953
00:52:04.700 --> 00:52:08.180
It's almost like a place where people can come

954
00:52:08.180 --> 00:52:12.460
and gather and be infused with kingdom.

955
00:52:12.460 --> 00:52:14.060
But it's not a church.

956
00:52:14.060 --> 00:52:15.660
You see what I mean?

957
00:52:15.660 --> 00:52:19.380
It's like, what I feel is like the new version,

958
00:52:19.380 --> 00:52:20.380
a sort of a new model,

959
00:52:20.380 --> 00:52:25.060
sort of a new way of doing kingdom work.

960
00:52:25.060 --> 00:52:26.340
And we're very excited about it.

961
00:52:26.340 --> 00:52:31.340
So we want you all come, visit, take a gander.

962
00:52:32.020 --> 00:52:33.660
David Henshaw's thinking about moving to Austin.

963
00:52:33.660 --> 00:52:35.540
Maybe y'all think about moving to Austin.

964
00:52:35.540 --> 00:52:37.180
Austin's a great town, I love it.

965
00:52:38.540 --> 00:52:39.540
It's a great place.

966
00:52:40.500 --> 00:52:45.500
So that was sort of my just way of encouraging you,

967
00:52:45.500 --> 00:52:49.060
way of pitching our new thing

968
00:52:49.060 --> 00:52:53.340
and responding to Thomas's stuff.

969
00:52:56.620 --> 00:52:58.300
Who else got something?

970
00:52:58.300 --> 00:53:00.460
David, you had another question or another?

971
00:53:00.460 --> 00:53:02.060
Yeah, I just had a quick question.

972
00:53:02.060 --> 00:53:06.460
It was something I asked on the last year single app

973
00:53:06.460 --> 00:53:08.340
and didn't see a response to it.

974
00:53:10.540 --> 00:53:13.980
So if someone says that they have,

975
00:53:13.980 --> 00:53:16.220
their love language is words of affirmation

976
00:53:17.380 --> 00:53:20.780
and we are not very good, like for instance, myself,

977
00:53:20.780 --> 00:53:21.620
I'm not there.

978
00:53:21.620 --> 00:53:23.580
I don't think I'm very good at

979
00:53:26.220 --> 00:53:29.980
speaking to someone in a romantic relationship

980
00:53:31.420 --> 00:53:32.900
in an encouraging way.

981
00:53:32.900 --> 00:53:34.500
Should I avoid that person?

982
00:53:34.500 --> 00:53:37.340
Like how anxious attachment

983
00:53:37.900 --> 00:53:42.060
and avoidant attachment don't play well together

984
00:53:42.060 --> 00:53:47.060
or is it something that I should pursue

985
00:53:47.300 --> 00:53:51.220
in the sense of allowing my organic,

986
00:53:52.420 --> 00:53:54.220
awkward self to build?

987
00:53:55.260 --> 00:53:58.340
Yeah, I don't think it should be a deal breaker.

988
00:53:58.340 --> 00:54:00.380
I don't think it has to be a deal breaker

989
00:54:00.380 --> 00:54:02.060
like right off its face

990
00:54:02.060 --> 00:54:03.380
because there's so many other things

991
00:54:03.380 --> 00:54:08.060
that are part of the potential of the relationship.

992
00:54:09.420 --> 00:54:14.060
If you think, oh, this person looks interesting,

993
00:54:14.060 --> 00:54:16.060
I'd like to try to get to know them.

994
00:54:16.060 --> 00:54:17.540
Maybe you've heard of them,

995
00:54:17.540 --> 00:54:18.620
maybe you know something about them.

996
00:54:18.620 --> 00:54:21.540
You're like, oh, I wanna know more,

997
00:54:21.540 --> 00:54:25.180
but you're like, oh, but I don't know how to do

998
00:54:25.180 --> 00:54:26.300
words of affirmation.

999
00:54:26.300 --> 00:54:27.780
So therefore I should just not,

1000
00:54:27.780 --> 00:54:29.980
like that should not be a deal breaker from the beginning.

1001
00:54:29.980 --> 00:54:32.580
That should be an invitation for you to go, huh,

1002
00:54:32.580 --> 00:54:37.580
I wonder if I could learn to say a phrase.

1003
00:54:37.660 --> 00:54:40.460
Yeah, that's pretty much it,

1004
00:54:40.460 --> 00:54:45.460
which by the way for all of you wondering about the arc,

1005
00:54:46.500 --> 00:54:47.340
I jumped on it.

1006
00:54:47.340 --> 00:54:50.500
And one of the things I first loved about it

1007
00:54:50.500 --> 00:54:54.420
was every single person I've interacted with

1008
00:54:54.420 --> 00:54:57.420
is verified as an actual human being,

1009
00:54:57.420 --> 00:55:00.020
not about not someone trying to,

1010
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:07.600
you know, yeah, get one over on me type of thing. And so far, it's been organic conversations.

1011
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:12.720
But it just like one of those things, every time I see words of affirmation, I'm like,

1012
00:55:12.720 --> 00:55:21.680
Oh, you not gonna be able to not sound like Ben Stiller from meet the parents.

1013
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:25.440
Yeah, praying at the dinner table, like we pray day by day.

1014
00:55:26.080 --> 00:55:31.120
I would, I would encourage you, I don't know, we're trying to roll out our affiliation with

1015
00:55:31.120 --> 00:55:36.560
ARC. So like, give us a second, because there might be there might be a deal or an opportunity.

1016
00:55:37.120 --> 00:55:40.160
Oh, yeah. Jackie, it's a Monday.

1017
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:44.480
Yeah, we're gonna try to roll something else just so so I mean, just kind of like,

1018
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:50.000
put a pause on that. Because it might be advantageous for all of our members to be able to

1019
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:56.080
step into this because, because, because the potential there. So anyway, this one out there.

1020
00:55:56.960 --> 00:56:02.480
Yeah, Jackie had said last Monday to just, if you jump on, just get the free membership,

1021
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:07.440
don't do don't pay for anything, pay for anything until they are able to negotiate

1022
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:14.080
whatever it is that we can get for our community. So do easy. Also, other cool news, I'll be doing

1023
00:56:14.080 --> 00:56:22.640
a cross country trip to DC for Memorial Day. So I'll probably try to figure out how to make a

1024
00:56:22.640 --> 00:56:29.840
straight line from DC to Austin back to Vegas. I know it's going to be more of like a pyramid

1025
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:37.280
or triangle upside down. Herb line, what are you gonna do a forest dumps?

1026
00:56:39.120 --> 00:56:41.280
I just felt like running No, I'm gonna get in the car.

1027
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:49.360
Okay. Yeah, no, I so I'm I'm driving out a week early. One of the kids that I used to mentor

1028
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:57.520
the gold star family member when she was nine years old, and I was still in the army.

1029
00:57:00.560 --> 00:57:05.280
He's graduating high school and asked me to be there. And it's a week before the National

1030
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:10.880
Military Survivor Seminar for taps, which I try to do every Memorial Day. I was like, okay,

1031
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:18.480
sure. I'll, I'll stop in Davenport, check on the house hunting thing, see if I can

1032
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:24.160
try to get closed on a house before July starts, because that's when school starts.

1033
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:31.120
See some friends down in Illinois, drive over to North Carolina, see some friends there,

1034
00:57:31.120 --> 00:57:36.000
some other gold star family members I've known from the past, go to her high school graduation,

1035
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:40.400
go back down to North Carolina for a few days with folks that I call family,

1036
00:57:41.120 --> 00:57:46.400
you know, chosen family, not blood family. And then the event in DC is,

1037
00:57:49.040 --> 00:57:52.560
well, it's like my birthday and Christmas rolled into one.

1038
00:57:53.760 --> 00:58:01.040
So it's just an awesome experience of being around kids without the expectation side of

1039
00:58:01.040 --> 00:58:05.520
teaching. So it's just, it's just to me, it's just like pure joy and me being a big kid.

1040
00:58:06.080 --> 00:58:12.000
Good stuff. Good stuff. And then on the way back, I have Austin, definitely make sure to

1041
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:17.040
reach out to us. If we're in town, we are going to be out of town a lot, man, between

1042
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:23.040
May, June and July. It's going to be crazy. But yeah, I'll reach out to you. Let us know.

1043
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:31.520
All day. Anything else? Anybody else? All hearts clear, they used to say.

1044
00:58:35.520 --> 00:58:40.400
Oh, yeah, I just had a quick question about some of the Zoom get togethers. And so, you know,

1045
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:43.680
there's events, hard check in, which is like the main thing. And then there's like,

1046
00:58:44.240 --> 00:58:46.960
a couple other things. There's like the all community events,

1047
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:55.280
um, single spotlight, and then the Sunday Night Prayer, Supernatural, Saturday and Faith Friday.

1048
00:58:55.280 --> 00:59:01.760
And so the all community and single spotlight, what are the, are those things that people join

1049
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:07.440
every week? Or is it just depend? I just wasn't really sure. There's a couple different versions

1050
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:11.040
of all community. Sometimes it's a love story. Sometimes it's a love seats. It's kind of like

1051
00:59:11.040 --> 00:59:16.240
a hot seat sort of situation. We do the single spotlights. So it kind of rotates throughout the

1052
00:59:16.240 --> 00:59:22.560
month. So at least there's usually one of those, one of those types a month, um, in terms of like,

1053
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:31.200
but, but the all communities are like, like, usually every week. Um, not every week,

1054
00:59:31.200 --> 00:59:36.160
but usually every week, there's usually something to go to. So, you know, there's about

1055
00:59:37.680 --> 00:59:42.800
four or five different lives to show up to every week. If it's works with your schedule,

1056
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:48.720
and then most of it, we have a replay. Okay. Typically we don't do the prayer times in

1057
00:59:48.720 --> 00:59:52.720
recording those. Those are just kind of like, because we just do seven days a week prayer,

1058
00:59:52.720 --> 00:59:59.840
some version of prayer, seven days a week. Okay. And then the replays are on that.

1059
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.760
app, I guess, right? Yes, there's a replay section on the

1060
01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:07.000
tab at the top. Gotcha. Okay, great.

1061
01:00:08.680 --> 01:00:10.440
Stefan, do you have a comment?

1062
01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:17.280
Yeah, quick question, David. So I got online quite late, but I'm

1063
01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:23.760
glad I caught you guys. So I have been dating a lady from

1064
01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:30.200
this group for the past about three months. And it's long

1065
01:00:30.200 --> 01:00:34.400
distance. I've been to hers four times. She's been down where I

1066
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:40.800
am also four times. And I've met some of her. So, so far, it's

1067
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:47.040
going really well. I think, in both our minds. I have met some

1068
01:00:47.040 --> 01:00:51.680
of her friends, not a lot, probably three or four really

1069
01:00:51.680 --> 01:00:57.000
good friends. I've been to with her to her church. And she's

1070
01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:01.200
met a lot of mine, almost everyone that is local. Yeah,

1071
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:06.320
we've asked international so, or experts. And so I was just

1072
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:10.880
wondering, she made a comment about just saying she might

1073
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:15.960
contact some of my friends, ask them one or two questions. And I

1074
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:19.880
thought, Oh, well, I don't know if that actually hurts or not.

1075
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.880
But you've you're welcome to do that. And then I thought, well,

1076
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:26.320
what should I do the same because I feel quite comfortable

1077
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:31.000
with her. And I was just I just want to check that with you and

1078
01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:36.560
the guys is how far due diligence is definitely a thing.

1079
01:01:36.560 --> 01:01:43.560
So also, I'm divorced. She's not. She's we both in our 40s. I

1080
01:01:43.560 --> 01:01:46.760
have a young, young son.

1081
01:01:47.680 --> 01:01:52.360
Yeah. No, it's, it's, it's really wonderful to be able to

1082
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:58.240
get in relationship with somebody, and then meet people

1083
01:01:58.240 --> 01:02:02.680
that know them, because you are getting to know them. And they

1084
01:02:02.680 --> 01:02:06.000
know them. And they say wonderful things about the

1085
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:10.440
person or good things, if they're good people, not trying

1086
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:14.480
to hide bad things. But the, you know, the good people, good

1087
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:18.360
friends say nice things about you. And that gives the person

1088
01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:21.480
that you're trying to be in relationship with, it gives

1089
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:26.240
them a sense of like, wow, not only do I think this person is

1090
01:02:26.240 --> 01:02:28.760
great, but other people think this person is great, like,

1091
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:31.680
almost to the point where it's kind of like, I can't find

1092
01:02:31.680 --> 01:02:34.600
anybody that could say anything negative about this person. Now

1093
01:02:34.600 --> 01:02:39.600
that's not not always the case, right? Because not everybody has

1094
01:02:39.600 --> 01:02:45.080
that reputation, so to speak. But it can be a reassuring thing

1095
01:02:45.680 --> 01:02:50.960
for someone to know the people. And I think that's kind of

1096
01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:54.880
common, especially for women. They're like, women typically

1097
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.600
like one of the first things that Jackie did with me when she

1098
01:02:57.600 --> 01:03:01.040
was kind of like, hanging around, like we were hanging

1099
01:03:01.040 --> 01:03:07.200
out, is she started, you know, introducing me to her people.

1100
01:03:08.040 --> 01:03:13.480
Because the context in which we met, I was sort of entrenched in

1101
01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:21.040
a organization, it was easy for her to know my people because of

1102
01:03:21.080 --> 01:03:24.000
just by association, it was where we were going to church

1103
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:26.960
and different things. But I didn't know any of her people.

1104
01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:31.800
And so she started introducing me to her people, not

1105
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:37.040
necessarily for me to meet them, but for them to vet me.

1106
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:41.960
Okay, from her perspective, and there's nothing wrong with that

1107
01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:46.080
from just a just a very casual, like, hey, this is my really

1108
01:03:46.080 --> 01:03:50.320
good friend. These are my people that I've known since, you know,

1109
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:54.480
certainly well before you and I enjoy them and I like them.

1110
01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:59.000
Doesn't mean that those friendships have to continue on

1111
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:03.040
because a lot of those relationships that my wife had

1112
01:04:03.040 --> 01:04:06.560
then, they're not as the way they are now because just things

1113
01:04:06.560 --> 01:04:09.440
change, life changes, our life has changed, blah, blah, blah,

1114
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:12.320
all that kind of stuff. What I'm saying is, is that it can be a

1115
01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:15.560
source of assurance for people that are getting to know each

1116
01:04:15.560 --> 01:04:19.200
other, for them to be introduced to those other people's people,

1117
01:04:20.720 --> 01:04:24.320
family, friends, that kind of thing. Family is one thing

1118
01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:26.120
because it's kind of like, this is my family, I can't do anything

1119
01:04:26.120 --> 01:04:28.680
about my family, this is my family, right? You know, like,

1120
01:04:29.240 --> 01:04:33.240
friends have a way of sort of like, hey, this is my friends,

1121
01:04:33.240 --> 01:04:36.360
because they want to be my friend. Like, you know, they

1122
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:39.440
don't, I'm saying it's different than family, like family, they're

1123
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:43.240
my family, you know, but friends, it helps to be able to

1124
01:04:43.240 --> 01:04:45.960
be like, oh, this is my friend. And I this is what I enjoy about

1125
01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:49.680
Stefan, this is what I enjoy about so and so. So it can be

1126
01:04:49.680 --> 01:04:55.040
very, very good thing. Obviously, there are some people

1127
01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:59.000
that have difficulties with their past or whatever. And so

1128
01:04:59.040 --> 01:04:59.800
somebody goes,

1129
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:01.640
snooping around or trying to find people,

1130
01:05:01.640 --> 01:05:03.560
dig dirt up on people.

1131
01:05:03.560 --> 01:05:04.800
That's probably not a healthy way

1132
01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:06.120
to try to get to know somebody,

1133
01:05:06.120 --> 01:05:07.720
to try to dig dirt up on somebody

1134
01:05:07.720 --> 01:05:10.000
because you're suspicious of them.

1135
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:12.640
That's probably not going to end well.

1136
01:05:12.640 --> 01:05:16.120
Regardless of whether they have something to hide or not,

1137
01:05:16.120 --> 01:05:18.320
the person starting out with suspicion,

1138
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:19.160
you're going to have to,

1139
01:05:19.160 --> 01:05:20.240
there's going to be some reset.

1140
01:05:20.240 --> 01:05:22.960
It doesn't sound like that's what's going on here though.

1141
01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:24.960
No, no, I don't think it is.

1142
01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:26.120
Yeah.

1143
01:05:26.640 --> 01:05:30.280
She's been in one or two toxic relationships.

1144
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:33.280
So I think she's just a bit cautious.

1145
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:34.120
Yeah.

1146
01:05:34.120 --> 01:05:34.960
Yeah.

1147
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:35.920
But it's very reassuring.

1148
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:38.680
If you meet somebody that's hurt people

1149
01:05:38.680 --> 01:05:40.880
and they're like, yeah, I love,

1150
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:43.640
I don't know what her name is, but I love, yeah,

1151
01:05:43.640 --> 01:05:44.480
we're great friends.

1152
01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:45.480
We've been friends for 20 years.

1153
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:47.160
Oh wow, that's really great.

1154
01:05:47.160 --> 01:05:48.000
Yeah.

1155
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:48.840
That says something.

1156
01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:50.200
I mean, you don't even have to know anything about them,

1157
01:05:50.200 --> 01:05:51.120
but it says something that,

1158
01:05:51.120 --> 01:05:53.880
hey, you've had a friend for some time.

1159
01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:57.560
It says something about their ability to maintain healthy,

1160
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:00.000
you know, good relationships.

1161
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:00.840
Yeah.

1162
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:01.680
Yeah.

1163
01:06:01.680 --> 01:06:02.520
No, I agree.

1164
01:06:02.520 --> 01:06:05.200
And we both met our friends,

1165
01:06:05.200 --> 01:06:09.720
some are 20 plus year relationships and I'm 15, 20.

1166
01:06:09.720 --> 01:06:14.720
So I don't find it too difficult to,

1167
01:06:14.720 --> 01:06:17.680
to agree that she is a good person

1168
01:06:17.680 --> 01:06:20.480
apart from what you see anyway.

1169
01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:21.320
Yeah.

1170
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:23.480
And we've met each other's experiences on Zoom too.

1171
01:06:24.120 --> 01:06:25.480
Well, she was here when I visited

1172
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:28.720
and I met hers on Zoom, which is pretty cool.

1173
01:06:28.720 --> 01:06:31.520
And they seem like a nice family.

1174
01:06:31.520 --> 01:06:32.360
Yeah.

1175
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:33.680
Well, congratulations, you know,

1176
01:06:33.680 --> 01:06:38.680
on your getting into month three, four, whatever it is.

1177
01:06:39.680 --> 01:06:41.600
And that's really awesome.

1178
01:06:42.520 --> 01:06:43.360
Yeah.

1179
01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:44.200
Thank you.

1180
01:06:44.200 --> 01:06:45.360
It's very exciting, I must say.

1181
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:47.640
Keep us up to date for sure.

1182
01:06:48.640 --> 01:06:49.480
I'll do that, David.

1183
01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:50.480
Thanks.

1184
01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:52.040
You're welcome.

1185
01:06:52.040 --> 01:06:53.160
All right, guys, God bless.

1186
01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:56.440
Have a great, great night, the rest of your week.

1187
01:06:56.440 --> 01:06:58.720
And we'll see you on the flip side.

1188
01:06:58.720 --> 01:07:02.640
Remember, tomorrow, sign up for a single spotlight,

1189
01:07:02.640 --> 01:07:05.080
email in admin at JackieDoran.com.

1190
01:07:05.080 --> 01:07:05.920
Real quick, David.

1191
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:06.880
Spotlight in tomorrow.

1192
01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:10.160
And then no heart, men's heart chicken next week.

1193
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:11.840
Cool, real quick.

1194
01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:13.160
What's the address of the wheelhouse?

1195
01:07:13.160 --> 01:07:15.400
Cause I just typed it in and it showed a bar.

1196
01:07:16.600 --> 01:07:17.440
No, no, no.

1197
01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:19.560
I mean, it's nothing really to see there.

1198
01:07:19.560 --> 01:07:20.400
It's 20,

1199
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:27.040
I'm just picking a point to like drive toward in Austin.

1200
01:07:27.040 --> 01:07:30.280
6910 Shirley Avenue.

1201
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:32.120
Shirley, like the woman's name.

1202
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:35.720
Cool beans.

1203
01:07:35.720 --> 01:07:36.560
Like airplane.

1204
01:07:36.560 --> 01:07:38.480
There's not much to look at yet.

1205
01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:39.320
Yep.

1206
01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:40.160
No worries.

1207
01:07:40.160 --> 01:07:41.240
See you guys later.

1208
01:07:41.240 --> 01:07:42.080
All right, see you, man.

1209
01:07:42.080 --> 01:07:42.920
Have a good night.

1210
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:43.760
God bless.
