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Oh, I didn't make you a host. Sorry. That's why.

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So this is going to be a little bit of a working session because I haven't kind of

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rethought everything after the call. And so just kind of would like to start and just process a

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little bit with you. Although I honestly feel like the takeaway from the conversation was almost a

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double downing on wait, no, but I feel like this is what God's telling me to do. But maybe

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clarifying, like simplifying the sales funnel. I love that approach. And then maybe just maybe my

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what was correct, but how I was defining my who, I think I need to just adjust that a little bit.

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And then what my goal would be for this session is I have two weeks till I'm done with this 30 day.

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And so talking through kind of the next steps of, okay, when do I need to start launching an ad?

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What should that ad look like for like a free event into either a course or challenge? We can

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talk about that. So just kind of the technical behind the scenes, like wrap this up and then

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now do something with it versus just kind of having this 30 day and it not go anywhere.

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So I want to make sure I'm well ahead of being prepared for what the first two weeks of June

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look like to get momentum and people doing something. So that would be my goal.

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Great. Okay, sweet. Yeah. And I think you've got like, I mean, I'm glad you got to talk with him

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because it's so much easier to help people when they're moving, like they're already doing

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the thing, like you're like in it, like you've got the challenge going, you've got the

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offers ready. Like now it's like getting the offer ready is like more meaningful now

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because you have to essentially give something in like two weeks here.

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So this is definitely the right way to go about it. But yeah, so you said you

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had some good takeaways and I'll try to just capture some notes and stuff here.

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So I think my takeaway is, well, like I understand what he was saying about like

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how my look and feel is. The truth is having just left or been in a 20 something year career

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and being completely burnt out from climbing the top of my career mountain and putting work

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above family, health, vacation, you know, my dream for me, like I'm kind of attracting who's and

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wanting to recognize and like bring out that pursuing your God dream doesn't have to be like

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corporate America where you're burnt out doing it. Like the whole point of like this download

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God gave me a few years ago is doing your mission or your destiny with God shouldn't feel like Lord

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of the Rings. Like if you don't hit this narrow, you know, target, like you're going to like, you

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know, fail and the whole earth is going to like blow up. I used to kind of feel a little bit more

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like this intensity. And so I do want to like portray, you know, this idea of like, you know,

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sudden leaves of God or the miracles or just this flow of being able to pursue our dream, whether

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it's on the side or as a mom and not, you know, get burnt out from it. So open to ideas on how to

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message that rebrand it, have it feel a little bit differently. But for me, I don't want to just

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create this, you know, eight figure organization, having just left a $200 million one, I want

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something that I can do while on vacation with the kids. And so maybe my who needs to be adjusted a

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little bit that it's more geared towards mompreneurs or women who are like ready for

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leaving their nine to five versus, as I had initially said, this high driven woman, although

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that's me, maybe it's women who are looking for a change, right? Like they want to have something

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they can do in their flip flops, not their heels. Okay. Yes, that's good. And I think

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that's good. I'm just making some notes. Yeah. So looking, yeah. Looking for a change. I think

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that's good. If you can, you know, you can have the heels to flip flop challenge.

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And for me, like I didn't take a vacation for the first five years I worked for the organization. I

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just left. I did it. The only week I took off was one week from my dad's funeral and I worked the

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entire week. So me taking a vacation because just, you know, it was chaos. Right. And so like

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the epiphany that I had around this, like this whole theme is like a girl's trip adventure.

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Like we're going to take time out. We're going to be with friends. We're going to pursue our

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God dreams. We're going to like be tenacious and move forward, but we're going to do it from a

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standpoint that's refreshing and community and prioritizing like rest and health and fun. Right.

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And so I think it's just getting like being able to articulate

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how important this is and not just like killing ourselves.

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for a career or for success.

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And that's been my huge like shift in my perspective

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that the women that are coming to me

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are feeling the same thing.

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Like I've done the job, I've done, I put in the hours,

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but I want something different.

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But that shouldn't mean that then you can't pay your bills

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or you can't get to go on vacation, right?

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Exactly, but I think that like,

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cause what you're talking about is like launching

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a business obviously.

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And basically going from a being an entrepreneur

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in a business to being an entrepreneur and moving out,

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which is, I just had coffee with someone this morning

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who's trying to do this exactly, not at all your avatar,

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but he's got a W-2 and he's like built this little AI thing.

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And now he's like, what do I do with this?

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And so, but he just like terrified to leave his job.

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Right, so he's not yet.

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So it's just the confidence of like,

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oh, I don't know what to do.

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Like, I don't know where to go.

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Like, you know, so it's all the basic thing.

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The things they need help with are very simple.

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So I think having like, what you're trying to do is,

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but I think because that person's coming off,

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I think that's where I think the pricing,

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and I joke about the pricing stuff,

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but the person coming off of that is probably used

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to working with just people who are in like,

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you know, a six figure salary.

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They're just, that's who they're interacting with every day.

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And they're, so the numbers are like in a different scale.

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If they're getting bids for a project or a thing,

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it's in the tens of thousands, if not more, you know,

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six figures for a bid on something.

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it's almost just feels very, very,

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it may be, oh, this may not be for me.

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Cause it's almost like too cheap for me,

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if that makes sense.

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So, so, so what you're, okay.

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So then to clarify,

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maybe I need to do this in two different streams.

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And I know I'm not trying to complicate things,

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but I have like, to be honest,

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multiple LLCs and other stuff happening.

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So what my goal with the original Dream Big Adventure

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and Launch Your Dream is to be light, easy, fun,

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something I'm going to create a kid's version of this.

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I want it to be our lower price point.

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What I might need to do is my other goal

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of helping women launch their dream businesses.

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I have another organization called Real You Design.

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That one is actually more of a luxury feel.

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I already have like the branding for that.

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It's, I mean, I can show you the website that I thought.

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We talked about that, like the agency thing.

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Is that the?

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So that one's, hold on.

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Where you were doing like some web and brand and stuff.

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And so this look and feel,

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this is the template that I bought.

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And this much more feels that like,

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I just haven't populated yet, but I own this template.

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Every entrepreneur's.

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I know, ever.

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I've got this domain.

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It doesn't have to go anywhere yet.

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But like, am I trying to cram two things into one vehicle?

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When part of my personality

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is that I might have like three or four revenue streams

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and maybe what I need to do is,

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this is more for the burnt out person

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who wants something fun with God.

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And then I do the other, like more high-end consulting,

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coaching, whatever, under a different like name or platform.

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Yeah, I think that's good.

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I think still like both of those sound expensive to me.

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So I think you're thinking of just like one that's cheap

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and one that's maybe expensive.

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But like, to me, if you're busy,

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because I think a great entry point for people,

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and this is where it's hard.

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So like, let's say you did the 5K thing

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and you started there and you're like,

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it doesn't have to be a mastermind necessarily,

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but to say, let's just pick 5K and like,

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hey, we're doing a trip or we're going to do something,

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whatever, you do an application to pick who this person,

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but this is specifically for like women in corporate

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who are making this much.

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It's like very specific niche.

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Like they're making at least this.

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They're in a C-suite, they're burnt out.

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And we're just going to do like this refreshing,

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fun trip thing.

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And I think one of the comments you made,

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which is very fair,

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like don't necessarily want to go like hang out with people

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you don't know for three days or whatever.

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So, but conceptually, like if a trip is a great thing,

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that's like, it's one time we go there,

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we get tons of value.

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I get refreshed, I get to meet a bunch of people

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and then it's kind of over.

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So you don't have to like stack that.

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Like the trip is the thing, like the trip's there

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and we're going to do some sessions

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and there's going to be some fun sessions and whatever.

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And Macy, you may have some like input on this

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because your mom's doing this

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and she's charging about 5K.

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What's the?

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That's why I think that the, if you were going to do a math, like a master's mind, that is

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an amount like 5,000 is not enough.

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You need like 5,000 is the amount of the trip.

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My mom is like Bruce said, my mom is literally, I'm helping her plan a woman's like exactly

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what you're doing this whole time.

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I'm like, that's really great because I'm, she's literally doing a woman's trip.

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She's doing about 30 women and it's about, she was doing Mexico, which was a little bit

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more expensive, but she's doing a trip in Florida and it's still like four grand.

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So if you were like, let's say you're having a math, the format, like it's two, three nights.

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I'm trying to think, I think it's three nights and it's a mix.

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She's having women.

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She does a lot of like with women with beauty.

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So she's doing inner beauty, outer beauty, and expressive beauty.

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And so she's going through and doing sessions on those things.

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So every day she'll have like a slot for a session, but then she does like a lot of like

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high end experience.

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So like we're doing like a beach welcome gathering, like charcuterie on the beach meal on the

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beach connecting time.

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And then like going back and doing a session and then we're staying and I want to go.

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But like, if you could, like maybe if you find, I know she's like the whole marketing

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for this.

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Cause Lindsay's like trying, she's wanting to go.

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And this is how it works.

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So she's from the audience standpoint, like a Nacy's mom, Heather, just posted on her

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social media is like, Hey, another, and she's done a few of these, like they've done it

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pretty successfully.

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And so she posted literally a screenshot of Destin or something, the bullets.

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And it was like, Hey, just DM me if you're interested.

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And so she obviously had like a, maybe Macy was the one responding for her.

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I don't know.

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But there was like a, just a whole text thing of like everything that was included, the

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pricing.

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And she just, you know, it was kind of copy paste.

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And so that's, that's the whole, that was the whole funnel.

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Like there was no ads, there was no like click funnels.

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There was no like, you know, there's probably, we have to do something to get like a payment

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and invoice obviously, but it's super simple and it's just a one time thing.

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And you know, and then what's nice about the DM is that it's personal and you can have

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a little conversation with them and just feel out if this is like the right thing for them.

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But that's just one little like product you could do.

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That's not right.

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Because I think that just because of who you're talking about is like, they're wanting for

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that change.

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This is like a sample of that.

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Cause you're okay.

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Let me maybe summarize.

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There's sort of like this short term, like break from things, which is literally a trip

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for three days.

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But then there's this like, Hey, actually, what if you owned your own business?

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Like you could live like this essentially.

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And that's where to me, that's the 25K mastermind deal.

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And you potentially could sell that 25K to this person after the trip.

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There would be a great candidate for it.

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But to me, there's two parts.

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It's like you get a little sampling of what this could be like.

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It's like doing a little business stuff, talking a little, you know, kingdom stuff.

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And then also just having a place we will share.

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And like, we've done some of these trips.

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I'm trying to help like our pastors with this.

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simple structured things where like everybody took 20, 30 minutes to like tell their story,

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which was crazy for guys to do that.

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to like connect with someone else.

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And then we just obviously we went like hiking and fishing and all kinds of stuff during

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of my, you know, so that was part of this was to do two or three a year.

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That's like a one off thing I do.

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And that can fund the end goal being the mastermind group.

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But I think like in the next 30 days, like while my ultimate goal is like here and yes,

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maybe we need to like redo the branding to make this not two things, but one thing like

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talk through kind of how I get there.

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Like I know we talked about like the DM part for this piece.

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But do I combine? So I'm in my 30-day challenge now. I want to do a free event the week of June

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2nd because that'll be right after I'm coming off of the 30 days. I'm every day getting new

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people signing up for my email list. I want to do kind of a big, you know, ad push for this free

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workshop. Should this free workshop be the launch your big dream and make it a four-day workshop

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so they're really getting that value or kind of truncate that into a 90-minute

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and eliminate this like she dreams big, you know, piece of it. So I think that was my idea

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is to like get rid of this, you know, have this be my, you know, free event here.

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Yep. It's what I think what Pedro was saying as well is like,

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so yeah, because I think you got, there's too many, too many steps. I was, I would think like

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a, I would think like a three step at max. Ideally two's great. Like challenge, like, you know,

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go on my trip. That's a big jump. So if you want to add that third piece in the middle,

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like to bridge the gap between those, you could go a 30-day challenge just to a workshop. This is

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kind of what Pedro's doing as well. And we're, we're going more this route as well. So a paid,

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paid workshop, or it could be free. Those, we could talk about that. But the point is like,

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you'd be more of like, Hey, and it can be a one day thing, like a three, four hour workshop on a

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And then it's just three, four hours. And at that, you can have something to offer at the very end of

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that. So, but I would, I would just give them like one, you never want to have like, Hey, you could

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buy this, or you could buy that, like, or too many stepping stones, because I also don't think know

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if the person who's paying for a 5k trip is going to hang out for four hours. Like it would have to

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be insanely valuable where you like, help them redesign their business essentially in a few hours,

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or they walk out with something very tangible. That will be hard, hard to do. Yeah, the trip

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may be just after you've got because I think, I think the trip is just, I want to do it at

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some point. I don't know if I'm there yet. So what after this, like, is it my, like,

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you know, what he was saying is kind of like this 12 week adventure, like, don't do that. Maybe that's

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just a book or a course that's on my website. Although I feel like the value of this isn't so

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much to launch your business, but it's like, how to deal with like hearing God's voice, like it's

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more like coaching versus business launch. Although there's a lot of, it's a breakthrough

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adventure, like by the end of it, whatever has been your block will be removed. Like everyone

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who's gone through my course has like, I've had a dream. I've taken steps to possess my promised

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land. I hit Jericho and I stopped my dream. At the end of this course, you're going to know what the

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like thing is, and then you're going to be like taking action afterwards. But it's more of like a,

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this particular thing is like mindset, spiritual coaching questions, practical, although they'll

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have like a launch plan as the end of it. And it's about building friendship and community

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versus this is like, you're going to walk away with like, this is your dream. Here's the 90 day

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goal I have to take action on. Here's my who, like, this is a little bit more in 90 days of my

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dream or, you know, whatever my 90 days, I can have my dream launched. That's kind of come out

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of this. So then the natural, like next step for this is then launch your dream business. But then

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what do I do kind of with this? I feel like this is like a gold nugget from God, but do I just have

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that be more of like a book or my YouTube 12 week content, right? Like, do we make it free?

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And it's another way to opt in people. So, okay, here's just one idea. So potentially the 12. So

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I think this is great. Like the 12 week big dreams, that's the call it 90 days, 12 weeks, like

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I just, I think the, so the word challenge, just be careful where we, cause that's, that was throwing

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Pedro off. I, I meant to, it took me a while to like figure out why he was getting super concerned

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about, like, it just sounded like he was like one challenge over here, then like a course and another

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challenge. Then like he was that he didn't, couldn't like see that. It took me a minute to

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put that together. But what you could do is go like, and what he was saying was like, hey, take

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every, all the nuggets from the 12 week and like, try to give that away for free in some type of

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training.

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So you could go 30-day challenge directly to a free training.

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Now, that could be you put two to three-hour workshop there.

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I would start smaller and do this live,

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like a free live training.

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So you'd go 30-day challenge like, hey,

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Join my free training.

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I'm going to be doing it on this time, at this date,

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so people know to opt in.

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That's where you get the emails.

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That's your lead magnet right there.

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Then you can email them, hey, it's starting.

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Hey, in case you missed the replay,

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you got a lot of excuses to email them about the training.

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And then at the end of the training,

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I would just go straight to this 12-week adventure.

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Sorry, 12-week dream big adventure.

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But it just needs to be meaningful pricing there.

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So it's just like free, free, and then

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like three to five, three to 6K, something for that.

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and making it more expensive.

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I think you add it for like a few hundred bucks.

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And then with that, so one of the options I had,

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and you just said don't do this.

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But one of the ideas I had is like, when you go on vacation,

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certain people can sit in the main,

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and certain people can pay for first class.

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having a slightly lower price point with like a VIP upgrade.

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And I've seen that kind of in my stream, or is that?

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Yeah, I mean, you could do all of that.

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To me, that's kind of moving on to the next piece

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you had there, which is some consulting,

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or maybe there's like one-on-one helpful things.

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I mean, like more high touch type service.

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So I think you want to like have them buy something

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they're in this community now, and it needs to be just,

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that's what Pedro's again saying, like super, super clear.

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Like, hey, you are tired, working, corporate person here.

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And like, let me tell you what's possible.

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So the 12-week plan, like the hard things,

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we're gonna take 12 weeks.

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It's one hour, you know, this much time a week,

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we're gonna do some live stuff.

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There's courses, there's stuff that goes with it.

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Give people like, they're not,

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they literally probably don't care about the 3K.

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You just gotta get over that, the three to 5K.

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I don't even know if that's gonna make

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The only negative I see is the less you charge,

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the worse people are gonna join.

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And I mean, in the nicest way possible.

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So like the, it's 997, for example, or four,

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like if you're just, you know,

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it's the joke of like the $500 client

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versus the $50,000 client.

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And we have, we serve both of these clients.

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Like the $500 clients, like, you know, texting you,

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emailing you, like, I'm so glad that we're working together.

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And then we're gonna be on this adventure together.

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And the 50K is like money wired.

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You know, it's just, that's, it's just,

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and I have literally have texts like that from clients

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and they're wonderful to work with.

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And so the more they spend with you,

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the less maintenance there'll be as well.

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So just when you're getting started, I would keep it,

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I would go higher, as high as you,

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and okay, let me, this would be a great training.

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Maybe we'll, maybe we'll like use, but this is worth,

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and let me, maybe I'll share my screen here in a second.

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You're good.

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But yeah, so like,

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like you, you essentially have,

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you have authority in the amount

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that you have personally invested.

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So like, what's the most you've spent on a coaching program?

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Yeah, like five, six grand.

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Okay, perfect.

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I mean, at one time, but then I, like I did it,

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like that was a six month program, but then I did again.

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So I basically paid like 10 grand for it.

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And my normal coach, like when I was a CFO,

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my company paid for,

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but I had $8,000 a month retainer with my coach.

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Perfect.

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And then, I mean, and if you total that all up,

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like you're 30, I mean, you're probably 20, 30 something,

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like, okay, like you're into it.

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So like, whatever amount that you have invested in,

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like you have like now locked in the authority

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to charge that.

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So like, whatever you've paid,

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you now have the like authority to,

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it's, I don't know how that works.

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Like if it's some kingdom principle or something,

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and maybe it's just a straight up confidence.

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And, but I think if you've not,

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if you've not paid 25,000 for a course,

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it's gonna be very hard for you to like justify.

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It just sounds insane.

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Like for someone to pay that to you.

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So that's where I would level up in the thinking is just,

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look at like, you've definitely paid four or five,

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six K something on.

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So that would, I would look at that scale

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for what you could charge.

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Start there because and and honestly those are the things that probably are bringing the most value to you anyway

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So the the best thing you could like go a little high and then you can have like a payment plan if people are like

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I really can't afford it was like let's break it into some payments for you

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Because they could pay

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2k a month 2k a month for the

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The not that it's three months basically so like 2k a month so they've end up paying you 6k

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Worse for them, but you know you're willing to help them out

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So like yeah, so I think to clarify just before we keep going

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Where I feel confidence in charging that is here like I have helped

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You know I mean one I've worked for 20 something years in more of a startup industry as well as helped at least 10 to 15

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Women launched their businesses just had one launch this week

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I mean, I'm I can charge and have a lot of confidence in my business side

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I think charging it for more of a the coaching space. I feel like that's a lot and this is more of like a okay

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Personal development, this is like business, so I think this I know

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framed yes, I hear where you get where you're coming, but the

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the the people

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The money we've spent and got the most ROI is the bottom part not your top part like it's actually backwards

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Like we pay a

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Professional spiritual consultant lots of money, it's like two or three thousand dollars a session yeah

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you know and so

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We spent it

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We did a 25k like for 10 10 sessions or something like it was great

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And and we talked about our marriage like our top work with all it was nothing to do with business and yet those key

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Underlying like inner healing stuff like had the most impact on our business and continues to have it

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and so

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It's I know it's but it's the hardest thing to sell like it's super like the only reason we bought it because we knew this

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person really well, and he did a free like

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90 minute session with us

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And it was like opened up all kinds of stuff that we Lindsay

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And I never talked about in 10 years with each other and so like I have we have to do this like we have to

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do this so like

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That's super hard to sell on a 90 minute workshop like you're not gonna go from that to

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Hey, let me dig deep into your life and like fix all your inner hurt

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Also, by the way, it's 25,000. That's super hard to do

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but what you can do is like

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See wherever you can like combine those things. So maybe it's like and

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even if it's

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00:27:44.460 --> 00:27:46.300
It feels a little bit, you know

462
00:27:46.300 --> 00:27:52.540
You could have like your 12-week thing where like one day is like super tactical a week and the other day is like all

463
00:27:52.780 --> 00:27:54.780
inner world stuff

464
00:27:55.260 --> 00:27:59.140
So you could do two sessions a week if you really want to like crazy over deliver

465
00:27:59.860 --> 00:28:01.860
or rotate them or

466
00:28:02.780 --> 00:28:05.780
Go everybody watch the course and then we just do hot seats

467
00:28:06.500 --> 00:28:12.500
But you're kind of it's the merging of it. Like we're doing some of that right here. It's hard to talk about all these things because

468
00:28:13.500 --> 00:28:17.220
It's not that you don't have the tactics. It's it's almost never the tactics

469
00:28:17.220 --> 00:28:22.980
It's like oh, I don't have like I'm not like going all-in and saying like I I deserve $5,000 for this thing

470
00:28:22.980 --> 00:28:29.740
Right. I was gonna charge $500 for so it's kind of hard not to like talk about the deeper stuff

471
00:28:30.260 --> 00:28:33.940
You know then then just go straight to the the tactics

472
00:28:33.940 --> 00:28:40.220
Oh, maybe what I do is have this be a bonus course because I can knock this out pretty quickly as like a four-week

473
00:28:40.860 --> 00:28:42.620
Piggyback off of this

474
00:28:42.620 --> 00:28:44.620
This is gonna be a bonus that

475
00:28:44.700 --> 00:28:50.220
Attaches to this that kind of for those that are in this that want to launch a business at the end of this

476
00:28:50.740 --> 00:28:58.140
There's kind of a DIY that comes as a bonus and then that these two combined kind of leave to my consulting services

477
00:28:58.740 --> 00:29:01.540
Yeah, it's still kind of it's kind of

478
00:29:02.540 --> 00:29:06.140
They sound like the same thing to me. I've been talking to you for a very long time

479
00:29:06.140 --> 00:29:09.860
So like I just you got to keep it so simple like, okay

480
00:29:09.860 --> 00:29:13.940
What's what's that one thing? They're gonna get to me. It needs to be somewhat concrete like

481
00:29:15.140 --> 00:29:19.580
I'm thinking this to be like my who is women who want to launch a dream business

482
00:29:19.820 --> 00:29:25.100
While it can still be the name of it interweave that long gene kind of throughout this like

483
00:29:25.100 --> 00:29:29.500
Kind of take what I've done in the past and because my who tends to be entrepreneurs

484
00:29:29.500 --> 00:29:32.260
Yes lot like Fred the entrepreneur

485
00:29:32.260 --> 00:29:37.420
So like the example with this as I just got off the phone with a woman who does branding

486
00:29:38.100 --> 00:29:45.100
A Christian entrepreneur woman and so I'm going to do 12 podcast episodes that are gonna be part of this

487
00:29:45.100 --> 00:29:51.580
and like they're gonna be embedded in this course where I'm gonna have a testimony of 12 women of

488
00:29:51.580 --> 00:29:57.580
Them launching their dream business and then that content will be repurposed for my podcast and my book

489
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:06.080
Um, and so I guess I need to just come to grips that even though when I originally wrote this

490
00:30:06.080 --> 00:30:10.560
and did the course, it was more about like your personal, it could be like, I want to adopt

491
00:30:10.560 --> 00:30:15.440
children. It could be, I want to write a book, but my who tends to be more women wanting to launch

492
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:22.720
their dream. So just merge these two together. Yeah. And then this becomes the, if you want to

493
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:27.600
do a 20 K package with me, this is what it looks like for me to help you actually launch your

494
00:30:27.600 --> 00:30:33.600
business. Perfect. Yeah. That's great. And I think have, have this in mind because they're

495
00:30:33.600 --> 00:30:37.680
going to be, someone's going to be, uh, and so when you present, Hey, for 5k, we're going to

496
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:44.640
walk this through together. Just say like, I also have non-normally I charge 25 K. I do this,

497
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:48.800
I do that. We do this whole thing. That not a good start. Like if you're just launching,

498
00:30:49.520 --> 00:30:54.240
that may not make sense for you, but here's what I wanting to do for the next 12 weeks.

499
00:30:54.240 --> 00:31:00.560
And it's like, Oh, well, 5k doesn't sound so bad now. Right. Like, um, and the, the thing that I

500
00:31:00.560 --> 00:31:09.440
would, um, you seem super reluctant to just like merge everything into one. I don't know why. I

501
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:16.720
mean, I think for me, I struggle, like I have very distinct parts of my personality, um, given,

502
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:21.440
and that's why I went into Clifton strengths coaching is because I have my big dreamer part

503
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:26.640
and I have my executive achiever part and they very much don't. Well, they can work together.

504
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:31.760
They're kind of like one's my left brain, one's my right brain. And so I think, and this is probably

505
00:31:31.760 --> 00:31:36.080
something God's trying to heal with me is like being able to emerge these parts of myself,

506
00:31:36.080 --> 00:31:40.640
which in the past have been separated. Like I've had my career and then I've had my fun

507
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:47.040
friends that I coach for free and it's hard bringing it all together. Yeah, a hundred percent.

508
00:31:47.280 --> 00:31:52.160
And we weren't familiar with this either till recent, like the last few years. Right. So the

509
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:57.760
idea of the convergence and everything kind of coming together, it definitely is a stretch. Like,

510
00:31:57.760 --> 00:32:06.720
Oh, my entire life until I was like 32, like was about like being ministries over there on like

511
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:11.200
this part of it and businesses over there. And you're going to work to make enough money in

512
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:15.760
business so you can eventually go do ministry. Like those are two things, not like I'm doing

513
00:32:15.760 --> 00:32:19.360
business. I'm also helping someone with their marriage and doing this whole thing, like all

514
00:32:19.360 --> 00:32:24.960
mixed together and like charging, you know, that's, that's crazy. We didn't really get

515
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:30.720
exposed to that till we connected with Pedro, but that's, that's a huge, huge piece, I think.

516
00:32:31.760 --> 00:32:36.240
And I would, if as feedback and we've, we, we talked about it for about an hour,

517
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:40.720
we went through Pedro's thing. We talked about now, like the only place where that is separated

518
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:45.520
is in Jennifer Miller's mind. Like, like, I don't know if any of us could tell you the

519
00:32:45.520 --> 00:32:49.040
difference between these different things. Like, I mean, you've told us a thousand, like

520
00:32:50.320 --> 00:32:54.720
you've definitely done a good job explaining it, but it's not super obvious. Like this one's about

521
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:58.320
launching your business. This one's launching your ministry, or this one's about like being an

522
00:32:58.320 --> 00:33:02.240
awesome mom. And this one's also about launch and they're not so distinct where I'm like, Oh,

523
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:06.240
that sounds like a totally different thing. It sounds like the roadmaps, the same, right? Like

524
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:11.200
the 12 step roadmap God gave me, or what I'm trying to do, which is like awakening your

525
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:15.840
identity, like awakening your purpose, you know, getting your strengths, you know, pulled to the

526
00:33:15.840 --> 00:33:20.560
surface and then actually taking action. Like all of that's the same. I think it's like,

527
00:33:20.560 --> 00:33:26.240
am I in flip-flops or heels? Like that's the only, but I think it's different. And yet it's like,

528
00:33:27.520 --> 00:33:34.320
right. So then, so two questions before like we, like, so, okay. Macy, maybe y'all being that

529
00:33:34.320 --> 00:33:40.080
you're the female. So this is another template I was toying with buying. Does this do a better

530
00:33:40.080 --> 00:33:46.240
job of combining them in terms of it's fun and it's like whatever, but it's a little more

531
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:52.720
professional than kind of my current website or like, this is the website I built right now.

532
00:33:52.720 --> 00:34:00.160
That kind of feels a little bit more beachy vibe. What was your third option of the website? The

533
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:03.040
one that had the pink on it, the one that you said you had the template.

534
00:34:03.040 --> 00:34:06.000
I already bought. It's called Foxy Lady. I like it.

535
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:12.560
You want to see my fourth website? That's actually mine.

536
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.239
No, keep going. I want to see the seventh and eighth one too.

537
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.719
I know. This is my, so this is my 501c3.

538
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:22.719
That's great.

539
00:34:23.520 --> 00:34:30.719
So this is my 501c3. It's bright pink, black, yellow. Right. And then I got this one when I

540
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:38.080
was thinking of launching Exceed Women Alliance, which was more geared towards professional women.

541
00:34:38.080 --> 00:34:44.719
And then I rebranded, you know, when I shut down that LLC last year and turned it into a 501c3.

542
00:34:46.080 --> 00:34:48.400
See, I think I like this one.

543
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:58.880
This one. Okay. Like I think that realistically my mom is, I think you guys are probably very similar.

544
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:06.560
And I think that this would be how my mom would brand her things with like bringing in, my parents

545
00:35:06.560 --> 00:35:12.960
are working with business people and with people of that nature, but also bringing them into the

546
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:18.800
heartwork and bringing them into how can you dream bigger, et cetera. And like, this is the type of

547
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:25.200
people that I think you would attract the people you're trying to attract. Yeah. So maybe, so one

548
00:35:25.200 --> 00:35:31.040
of the ideas I had was to like rebrand this, she dreams big as a podcast and maybe like dream big

549
00:35:31.040 --> 00:35:36.320
adventure is like what I just walked through for the last three years. And then she dreams big,

550
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:41.280
which is like creating this community of women who are going after their dreams and they're

551
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:48.160
powerful or whatever, and kind of re like bring the boldness, you know, to the surface. I have

552
00:35:48.160 --> 00:35:58.240
a question. You, I think are your, who the CFO, Jennifer is the person you're trying to attract.

553
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:04.560
Like realistically, I think if you really dug into yourself and like the things of yourself

554
00:36:04.560 --> 00:36:09.600
that you were missing before, and you have pointed that out, like, and really well, you'll define

555
00:36:09.600 --> 00:36:15.280
your who really well. Cause I think you are your who, um, and typically I feel like a lot of the

556
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:22.240
times when the Lord is working on something in us, that's typically what we end up pursuing after.

557
00:36:22.240 --> 00:36:26.160
So it's like, you've been going through this journey yourself. And you're like, the Lord is

558
00:36:26.160 --> 00:36:29.280
speaking to me about this. And I want to help other people with this, but that's because that's

559
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:39.200
where you were. Um, so I think asking previous you, like, what would I join as like, you're

560
00:36:39.200 --> 00:36:44.880
trying to figure out how can I get these people who are currently high level business entrepreneur

561
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:51.600
people who are very in the executive world? And how am I helping get them out? I think asking,

562
00:36:51.600 --> 00:36:56.640
like, what would you have joined while you were still in your corporate job?

563
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:03.520
And I think they're wanting a 90 day runway or a six month runway to be able to leave. Like,

564
00:37:03.520 --> 00:37:08.240
that's what I've just helped one of my clients do is like, I'm, I created a six month runway for

565
00:37:08.240 --> 00:37:13.600
myself to be able to leave my company. Now, granted God kind of miraculously provided some finances

566
00:37:13.600 --> 00:37:20.640
and I wasn't able to like have all the passive income ready, but I want to be able to teach them

567
00:37:20.640 --> 00:37:26.080
how to, you know, record the course, get the passive income gumming, you know, maybe you need

568
00:37:26.080 --> 00:37:31.200
a part time consulting job, but like, what do you need to do from like a budgeting standpoint of

569
00:37:31.200 --> 00:37:34.880
finance standpoint, but also like believing that God can like bring you things and he like

570
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:39.440
miraculously brought me like income right now. So I mean, it's all part of that, right?

571
00:37:40.240 --> 00:37:40.740
Yeah.

572
00:37:43.200 --> 00:37:49.120
Okay, I appreciate all the feedback. I think to your point, this is coming from like, burnt out

573
00:37:49.120 --> 00:37:54.720
me that's not that me anymore, like me is on the other side of burnt out. But I still think there's

574
00:37:54.720 --> 00:38:00.880
a part of me who's afraid to like, fully embrace this new season, because she doesn't want to go

575
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:06.480
back to burnout. And yet at the same time, like that's what I'm offering is this like opportunity

576
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:13.200
for women to bypass the burnout or to like come up here, right? And so while this is a fun day at

577
00:38:13.200 --> 00:38:17.680
the beach, you can't like live there eternally, like there has to be something where you're

578
00:38:17.680 --> 00:38:28.720
growing towards, right? Okay, yeah. And this is good. I would, I would, the only thing I would,

579
00:38:28.720 --> 00:38:34.000
I would say is like, again, being super clear. So like, right now, we have like launched,

580
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:39.120
whatever you're going to call a workshop, launch your big dream is, is good, but it may not like

581
00:38:39.120 --> 00:38:46.080
cut through and not like the tagline of that, like, what's the promise? To me, it's trying to figure

582
00:38:46.080 --> 00:38:52.880
out like, is starting a business the right decision for you? And there's not a wrong answer to that.

583
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:56.800
It's just like, hey, if this is where you are, and you're ready, like frustrated, and you're ready

584
00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:00.640
this thing, then like you launching a business with you. But if you're this, it's not for you

585
00:39:00.640 --> 00:39:05.120
like this is not for you. And that's okay. And maybe not for you now is now the right time for

586
00:39:05.120 --> 00:39:08.560
you to start that journey launch business. Because what you're doing is you're basically

587
00:39:08.560 --> 00:39:14.560
filtering them to the right to the 5k, or you're just putting them into like a holding pattern,

588
00:39:14.560 --> 00:39:18.960
or they're going to disappear, filter them out. And that's, you can be really like, that's where

589
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:22.880
I would want the live workshop to be like, hey, I'm going to attend this thing. Just see if this

590
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:28.560
is for me. I did some, I attended something like this and got sucked in deep into someone's funnel

591
00:39:28.640 --> 00:39:34.400
for Airbnb. Luckily, I never jumped in. And I was like, I never did that, because it can be super

592
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:39.760
distracting. But his whole 90 minutes, which is about testimonials, stories, stories, here's what

593
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:45.360
Airbnb, so all you're doing is selling them the idea like, oh, Airbnb, like, arbitrage is like

594
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:51.040
the thing for me, like, it's gonna be awesome. And I think, yeah, if you've got stories of like,

595
00:39:51.040 --> 00:39:54.720
well, here's Sarah, and I helped her do this, and she left her job, and she got six months runway,

596
00:39:54.720 --> 00:39:59.920
and like, blah, blah, like, just telling a lot of that's kind of your, that's the webinar.

597
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:07.360
um winning webinars uh format um and I think if you could do that and the whole you just have one

598
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:12.240
simple thing is like they should know by the end of that like this what she's talking about sounds

599
00:40:12.240 --> 00:40:16.160
amazing and I can't wait to go jump in I just need someone to help me with it

600
00:40:16.160 --> 00:40:20.320
or I don't want to do this like so you're kind of like scaring them away from it as well

601
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:24.240
like you're gonna have to do some hard things you have to learn some skills you never and

602
00:40:24.240 --> 00:40:28.880
talk to that person like hey yeah if you're a cfo you have a team you can delegate you could

603
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:32.960
do these things you don't have a team when you join you know when you still run your own business

604
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:38.400
these are the things that are going to shift um you know just super practical guess what you don't

605
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:44.640
not gonna have benefits when you right jump out right so just these little things like reality

606
00:40:44.640 --> 00:40:49.920
check I'm going to paint a really clear picture you've successfully made that transition from

607
00:40:50.560 --> 00:40:55.760
you know corporate to owning your own business and kind of leaving that that world and then

608
00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:02.240
just weave in like the the stories is a great place to just tell the heart stuff like here's

609
00:41:02.240 --> 00:41:06.720
this person she was struggling with this she was you know her walk with the lord was do this and

610
00:41:06.720 --> 00:41:12.560
I kind of dig in like you know as much as you want to um and yeah and even like yeah that's

611
00:41:12.560 --> 00:41:21.360
where you can dig into the heart uh heart stuff um for sure and like um yeah just just because

612
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:24.640
and then you can and then I think at the end of that you're like now this does sound like it's

613
00:41:24.640 --> 00:41:29.200
for you I'm gonna take you know do the same thing like I'm gonna take some Q&A but before I do that

614
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:34.000
like let me can they just show you something I'm working on that's starting in two weeks

615
00:41:34.560 --> 00:41:40.640
right um and just see if you get a couple people into that and then I would just do like it's not

616
00:41:40.640 --> 00:41:46.560
this one big like like I would plan to do this three three times like this live workshop just

617
00:41:46.560 --> 00:41:51.600
put three dates on the calendar I'm gonna do this like part I'm gonna do not the exact same like

618
00:41:52.560 --> 00:41:56.320
thing just you're gonna get it sharper each time like you're gonna do the first time you're like

619
00:41:56.320 --> 00:42:00.560
that didn't land at all tweak it change the second one tweak it change the third one by the third

620
00:42:00.560 --> 00:42:05.280
one will be starting to get pretty good and then you can just run a bunch of ads to get people to

621
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:10.640
the thing pull them in you know do the workshop run a bunch of ads and the whole time you're

622
00:42:10.640 --> 00:42:14.800
gonna get gather email addresses and all kinds of stuff in that process there'll be a lot of like

623
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:23.680
fruit that will come off just the the webinar um and I would 100% encourage you I would challenge

624
00:42:23.680 --> 00:42:29.520
you actually uh and I know you were pulling up the websites for like visually like a mood board maybe

625
00:42:29.520 --> 00:42:36.240
but I would challenge you to not build a website for any of this I know yeah um just use the one

626
00:42:36.240 --> 00:42:42.560
I have yeah I think the the live workshop is a is a is a um a live stream on YouTube

627
00:42:43.520 --> 00:42:47.520
it's just public it's there um if you want to grab an email somehow

628
00:42:47.520 --> 00:42:53.120
or you have like a pdf or something but not as zoom um no you could you could do it on zoom

629
00:42:53.120 --> 00:42:57.360
and then just stream it to YouTube but all I'm saying it's not like you have to I wouldn't

630
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:01.920
necessarily even use tribe like I wouldn't necessarily use okay uh make don't make it

631
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:08.400
hard just very public very accessible um maybe they can jump on the zoom if they give us give

632
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:15.120
you their email and oh it's a zoom zoom webinar like just check out zoom webinar literally like

633
00:43:15.120 --> 00:43:19.280
they will register for the webinar through zoom and you'll just get a list of email addresses

634
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:25.680
after that um just trying to make it super super simple where it's not you're not overcomplicating

635
00:43:25.680 --> 00:43:31.760
it um and you can have one so then from a like tactical standpoint so I can give um Xavier a

636
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:40.240
few minutes but when okay so I'm done with the events um on the 30th I want to have these the

637
00:43:40.240 --> 00:43:46.960
week like three the week of the second when do I start ads for this event two weeks now so I should

638
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:53.520
be already starting ads like next week yeah and then I would do like June 2nd like you know fourth

639
00:43:53.520 --> 00:43:59.280
like do it within a week of the first time you do it do like two other ones because you can um

640
00:44:00.240 --> 00:44:08.000
and then am I getting people the ads that I'm doing are to this event yes okay and then this

641
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:14.240
is free and it's a 90-day workshop and then do I have a landing page for this like create like

642
00:44:14.240 --> 00:44:20.880
just repurpose one of my land like this landing page that I already did here um this free workshop

643
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:29.120
one uh like maybe so I think like if you do uh so the zoom webinar has a little landing page built

644
00:44:29.120 --> 00:44:34.240
in and they register right there um and then it's great because you can it'll email them a reminder

645
00:44:34.240 --> 00:44:40.320
and like you know it's just kind of automated for you um and then the tech is kind of solved and

646
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:46.240
then you can just stream that webinar to youtube live um because like hey even if you didn't

647
00:44:46.240 --> 00:44:50.080
see my ad even if you didn't do that it's just public on youtube and anyone can just

648
00:44:50.080 --> 00:44:56.000
share that or it's public on facebook as well go that you can use um restream for that to like

649
00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:59.920
send it to multiple places um so that's what I'm like if you

650
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.280
you're spending time, I would figure out, like, get the, like,

651
00:45:03.520 --> 00:45:08.480
try to keep this stuff light on the product, not on the behind

652
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:09.800
the scenes, for sure.

653
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:10.100
Yes.

654
00:45:10.100 --> 00:45:10.640
On the product.

655
00:45:10.640 --> 00:45:14.640
And, and so I, uh, Macy will tell you this, like I, we use

656
00:45:14.640 --> 00:45:17.640
notion for this because notion does not let me change fonts and

657
00:45:17.640 --> 00:45:19.320
colors and alignment and layouts.

658
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:20.920
Like it's, it's just set.

659
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:25.360
Um, and so, or else I get carried away.

660
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:28.880
Um, and so we, uh, yeah.

661
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:33.760
Um, so just try to like, I know that's like a, a short, like a, a rabbit

662
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:35.760
hole for me to get stuck on the design.

663
00:45:36.240 --> 00:45:41.600
Um, uh, so, and then it just kind of like, you can visually use those.

664
00:45:42.120 --> 00:45:44.720
Like if there's a graphic or something, you want to kind of pull those colors

665
00:45:44.720 --> 00:45:47.040
in, you know, definitely.

666
00:45:47.520 --> 00:45:51.520
Um, as, and then as you work on stuff, we have this thing in our team that

667
00:45:51.520 --> 00:45:53.760
we call like radiating information.

668
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.020
So we should do this in tribe as well.

669
00:45:56.700 --> 00:45:59.940
As you finish a session, you make a graphic, post it in the community, tag

670
00:45:59.940 --> 00:46:03.220
me, like we can give Macy and I can both give comments on it.

671
00:46:03.660 --> 00:46:05.980
Um, like, Hey, does this title work?

672
00:46:05.980 --> 00:46:07.780
Hey, does this thing, Hey, here's the zoom thing.

673
00:46:07.780 --> 00:46:10.180
Can someone sign up and just make sure it like feels smooth.

674
00:46:10.180 --> 00:46:13.140
Like just pull us into like where you're at.

675
00:46:13.140 --> 00:46:16.620
Cause it'll help build a little bit of, um, momentum and confidence.

676
00:46:16.620 --> 00:46:17.340
Like just that.

677
00:46:17.340 --> 00:46:17.780
Okay, cool.

678
00:46:17.780 --> 00:46:18.740
I'm getting, it's working.

679
00:46:18.740 --> 00:46:19.340
If this is good.

680
00:46:19.780 --> 00:46:23.140
So this is already four weeks is already in my drive.

681
00:46:23.140 --> 00:46:25.380
If you want to watch it or like, give me your feedback.

682
00:46:25.380 --> 00:46:28.500
I recorded this with my PowerPoint slides, which would be the

683
00:46:28.500 --> 00:46:30.260
basis for my free workshop.

684
00:46:30.260 --> 00:46:32.260
So it's like 20 minutes a session.

685
00:46:32.260 --> 00:46:33.300
So it's not that long.

686
00:46:33.980 --> 00:46:34.380
Okay.

687
00:46:35.220 --> 00:46:38.900
So you're going to try to just like reteach the four weeks in 90 minutes.

688
00:46:38.900 --> 00:46:40.500
Is that the concept?

689
00:46:40.500 --> 00:46:41.180
Okay, sweet.

690
00:46:41.220 --> 00:46:41.820
I think that's great.

691
00:46:42.700 --> 00:46:47.860
I can kind of this, this session, I can probably truncate and kind of just,

692
00:46:47.860 --> 00:46:51.140
you know, each of these, you literally like have the choose your path.

693
00:46:51.540 --> 00:46:54.340
I mean, clarify the, the con, the headings there are great.

694
00:46:54.540 --> 00:47:00.180
Um, just link courageously taking action is spending 5k with me.

695
00:47:00.540 --> 00:47:03.660
Choosing your path is like, do you want to actually start a

696
00:47:03.660 --> 00:47:05.860
business or, you know, whatever.

697
00:47:05.860 --> 00:47:10.540
So you, I think you have this, I think you're much closer than, than you think.

698
00:47:10.620 --> 00:47:14.900
Um, yeah, putting that first date in, um, and then just keeping

699
00:47:14.900 --> 00:47:16.620
the tech really, really simple.

700
00:47:17.180 --> 00:47:22.660
And then what would be your, uh, format for an ad, like doing it on YouTube?

701
00:47:22.660 --> 00:47:27.700
Like I'm getting a lot of drive on YouTube and on Instagram, so I'll try

702
00:47:27.700 --> 00:47:31.260
to figure out those and then just have you, like, I can do it a few

703
00:47:31.260 --> 00:47:32.820
times and send you the loom.

704
00:47:32.860 --> 00:47:33.100
Yeah.

705
00:47:34.580 --> 00:47:34.820
Yeah.

706
00:47:34.820 --> 00:47:36.700
Do, um, you can do that.

707
00:47:36.780 --> 00:47:40.180
Uh, just a portrait video for Instagram, obviously.

708
00:47:40.180 --> 00:47:42.300
And then under 30 seconds.

709
00:47:43.260 --> 00:47:47.260
Hey, if you're a corporate working, well, let me just, you know, uh, and

710
00:47:47.260 --> 00:47:50.900
you're, and you're, you can't like, again, what Macy said about like talk

711
00:47:50.940 --> 00:47:57.540
to you from earlier would just be, um, something to the effect of like, Hey,

712
00:47:57.540 --> 00:48:03.620
are you, uh, you know, Hey, you can do the right wording, but you'd get the

713
00:48:03.620 --> 00:48:05.340
concepts like corporate working woman.

714
00:48:05.380 --> 00:48:08.180
It's that's not the right phrase, but, and you're tired, burnt out.

715
00:48:08.180 --> 00:48:09.100
Maybe you're looking at something.

716
00:48:09.220 --> 00:48:11.180
Maybe you even thought about launching a business.

717
00:48:11.380 --> 00:48:12.420
Hey, I'm Jennifer.

718
00:48:12.500 --> 00:48:14.580
And two years ago, I left my, my thing.

719
00:48:14.580 --> 00:48:15.180
I was burned out.

720
00:48:15.220 --> 00:48:15.620
I get it.

721
00:48:15.620 --> 00:48:16.460
I, this is where I was.

722
00:48:16.700 --> 00:48:19.460
I went through this transformation and now I'm in my business and I

723
00:48:19.620 --> 00:48:23.220
controlled my schedule and I'm loving life and, and mentioned something about

724
00:48:23.220 --> 00:48:28.340
like the Lord and I prayed about it, you know, and, and miracles started to

725
00:48:28.340 --> 00:48:32.100
happen and this thing happened that hadn't happened anyway, what, if you're

726
00:48:32.100 --> 00:48:35.140
in that space and you were thinking about launching your business, posting

727
00:48:35.140 --> 00:48:37.220
a free workshop, check the link below.

728
00:48:37.500 --> 00:48:41.500
Um, and we can help this figure out if launching the business is right for you

729
00:48:41.500 --> 00:48:44.980
to, and you're trying to get that move of like, I'm here, I'm stuck in my corporate

730
00:48:44.980 --> 00:48:46.860
job and I want to get up here.

731
00:48:47.500 --> 00:48:48.820
And they're still thinking about it.

732
00:48:49.020 --> 00:48:52.780
So the, the, the workshops just like, and what's cool about the workshop

733
00:48:52.780 --> 00:48:54.060
is you stream it to YouTube.

734
00:48:54.100 --> 00:48:58.420
And then as soon as that June 2nd happens, you just don't stop the ads.

735
00:48:58.420 --> 00:49:01.500
Like you just keep rolling it right to the replay the whole time.

736
00:49:01.900 --> 00:49:06.660
Um, just keep like getting more and more, um, links, uh, more, more emails.

737
00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:10.060
I was like, turn your daydream into living your dream.

738
00:49:11.420 --> 00:49:12.300
Something like that.

739
00:49:12.340 --> 00:49:17.540
So, and then what you're saying is, so we're trying to be, yeah, it's gotta be

740
00:49:17.580 --> 00:49:19.540
like, so in your, that's where I paid her.

741
00:49:19.540 --> 00:49:21.140
We're just saying, just be super clear.

742
00:49:21.540 --> 00:49:26.380
Uh, cause that could be, you don't want to be too like clever or too

743
00:49:27.740 --> 00:49:32.340
so I need to button up this and rethink the branding, marketing, the wording

744
00:49:32.580 --> 00:49:37.100
around that's so concrete, like 12 weeks to launching your dream business.

745
00:49:37.100 --> 00:49:38.940
That's, that's super concrete.

746
00:49:39.020 --> 00:49:39.380
Right.

747
00:49:39.380 --> 00:49:39.700
Okay.

748
00:49:39.780 --> 00:49:45.420
But you can make a tagline, like, you know, going on this big adventure, you

749
00:49:45.420 --> 00:49:49.140
know, uh, with you and the Lord and woman or something, you know, like you

750
00:49:49.140 --> 00:49:53.300
could pull something as a tagline to that if you want it, but that's concrete.

751
00:49:53.340 --> 00:49:58.940
And this one's like, um, you know, you know, I don't know if it's launched.

752
00:49:58.980 --> 00:49:59.940
It's not launch a big.

753
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.360
dream. It's like, it's something more about the transition of like

754
00:50:03.520 --> 00:50:07.680
leaving the old behind and going to the new, or like, I think you

755
00:50:07.680 --> 00:50:10.720
even, did you refer to it as the promise land? Did you say that?

756
00:50:11.080 --> 00:50:14.480
Or did I hear that? Yeah. Something like

757
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:17.520
one of the things I was saying, like, say yes to adventure and

758
00:50:17.560 --> 00:50:19.920
like, or like, it's time to possess your promise land and

759
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:21.760
prosper in the process, or

760
00:50:22.160 --> 00:50:23.080
I think that's great.

761
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.760
Your time to pry, you know, you're like, the other one was

762
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.200
around like birthing, like it's time to birth your dream.

763
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:33.440
Yeah, even like from the C suite to the promise land, like, and

764
00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:36.240
then like have a tagline like, and this, so this would be on

765
00:50:36.240 --> 00:50:38.920
the live workshop, potentially.

766
00:50:40.240 --> 00:50:42.000
Because you want it, that's where that's, that's the harder

767
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.600
thing to market the this 5k thing is actually quite easy, as

768
00:50:45.600 --> 00:50:48.360
long as it's super clear, you don't confuse them, the 5k

769
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:51.960
thing is going to be great. Just have one massive thing, hey, in

770
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:55.200
12 weeks, we're gonna help you on like get you ever set up to

771
00:50:55.200 --> 00:50:57.960
launch your business done. That's it, you know, and we're

772
00:50:57.960 --> 00:50:59.800
going to do it with these things. And we're going to have

773
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:06.360
that, like, where it's like, if it's too too confusing. You

774
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:13.640
know, anyway, that that's good. I think. Yeah, from Susie, you

775
00:51:13.640 --> 00:51:17.720
can workshop that with with chat GVT, and probably come up with

776
00:51:17.720 --> 00:51:19.960
some cool and then try it. That's where the ads you can try

777
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:25.720
like a couple options. So and potentially, like things like

778
00:51:25.720 --> 00:51:30.040
here that I want to talk to you at some point is and, and I was

779
00:51:30.040 --> 00:51:32.640
thinking that this was later in the process. But if I'm having

780
00:51:32.640 --> 00:51:35.440
this kind of be the thing I'm launching in June is I want I've

781
00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:40.040
already talked to someone today about tribe social, and I want

782
00:51:40.040 --> 00:51:43.440
to have a like, other person or mentor kind of on some of these

783
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:47.360
calls. So I might see if you're interested in speaking to part

784
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:49.840
of it, like I would have someone kind of tag team each of my

785
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:54.080
sessions. But I want to offer like tribe social as a platform

786
00:51:54.080 --> 00:51:56.840
of like, hey, I believe in this, you're sick of Facebook,

787
00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:59.640
like, here's an alternative to launching a tribe. Because a

788
00:51:59.640 --> 00:52:03.760
lot of my who are people that want to have a community or

789
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:06.720
coaching, you know, like, for instance, the one lady I talked

790
00:52:06.720 --> 00:52:12.400
to today, she's like in process of being interviewed by do you

791
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:20.560
know, what's the name of the company? faith driven

792
00:52:20.560 --> 00:52:24.120
entrepreneurs, the people who run that? Yes, it sounds

793
00:52:24.120 --> 00:52:26.680
familiar. Okay, anyway, they're wanting to create this like

794
00:52:26.680 --> 00:52:30.240
1000 person tribe community. So I told her like, hey, if you get

795
00:52:30.240 --> 00:52:33.120
the job, she'd be their VP of like communication marketing.

796
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:36.200
And like her main job would be to set up that community. I'm

797
00:52:36.200 --> 00:52:39.120
like, let me know, like, you got to talk to Bruce, like you need

798
00:52:39.120 --> 00:52:42.200
to use tribe social for them. So I feel like there's a lot of

799
00:52:42.200 --> 00:52:45.280
people who are asking me like, what do I use? And how do I do

800
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:49.200
it? And so you know, maybe you and I can like talk about like,

801
00:52:49.200 --> 00:52:52.800
how do we like, I like what Pedro was saying is like,

802
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:55.360
you're not just telling them like a theory or thing, but

803
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:57.920
you're giving them like the tools like you do for us.

804
00:52:58.720 --> 00:53:02.520
Exactly. That's good. Yeah, we can definitely do that. There's

805
00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:07.400
all kinds like, yeah, we have referral stuff and all kinds of

806
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:11.520
things to make that. You know, obviously, we want people to

807
00:53:11.560 --> 00:53:16.160
send more, more the right people our way. So definitely, we can

808
00:53:16.160 --> 00:53:20.760
chat about that. Typically, just like what we say is just,

809
00:53:21.520 --> 00:53:24.680
you know, let's just talk to the person, see if it's a thing, if

810
00:53:24.680 --> 00:53:28.160
it turns into something we can, you know, we'll always like,

811
00:53:28.200 --> 00:53:31.840
we're, we're pretty generous with like any new referrals. So

812
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:34.760
yeah. Okay. Yeah, I didn't know how to like tell her like, I

813
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:36.880
don't know what the pricing is, because I'm part of the master

814
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:40.640
group versus just the software or like how it all works. Yeah.

815
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:45.520
More clear about that. Because with the way I've positioned it

816
00:53:45.520 --> 00:53:50.160
now, and I'm still like getting it exactly right. But we do have

817
00:53:50.160 --> 00:53:53.320
like the white labeled version, which is just you put your own

818
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:56.400
name on it and everything. And that's what Pedro and others

819
00:53:56.440 --> 00:54:00.560
have on that side. And then we've got this, you just bring

820
00:54:00.560 --> 00:54:03.000
your thing on tribe social, I think we're probably gonna have

821
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:08.720
like a $99 per group option, one day. I've been saying this for

822
00:54:08.720 --> 00:54:12.960
about two years. But maybe this year, we'll have this $99 per

823
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:15.400
group option. What we've essentially done is just kind of

824
00:54:15.560 --> 00:54:17.480
bundled that in with the coaching. And we're giving

825
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:20.960
pioneers like early access to that, that like lower tier

826
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:24.320
option. And then we also made it unlimited. So it's like, kind

827
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:29.200
of an awesome, a great deal. But school and other platforms like

828
00:54:29.200 --> 00:54:33.240
that are doing that same $99 plan. Yeah. And like teachable

829
00:54:33.240 --> 00:54:36.480
and stuff like there's 47 a month or 99 a month. Yeah. So

830
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.640
something that's much more for and that would just be like you

831
00:54:38.640 --> 00:54:42.680
sign on, you do that. The issue is it's not super dialed, in my

832
00:54:42.680 --> 00:54:45.840
opinion yet to just fully automate setting it up. And I

833
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:48.160
mean, you know, it's, there's a little bit of quirkiness to it.

834
00:54:48.160 --> 00:54:51.040
So that's why I'm not like listing that and selling that

835
00:54:51.040 --> 00:54:54.560
today. But we'd rather like hold everybody's hand and walk them

836
00:54:54.560 --> 00:54:59.960
through in pioneers and see how it goes. But cool. Okay.

837
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.680
So it sounds like I got a good amount of work to do next week

838
00:55:02.680 --> 00:55:04.360
to just kind of dial all this in.

839
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:07.480
So I have your email, right?

840
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:09.000
Like I can just email you and Macy

841
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:11.120
and send some of this stuff to you.

842
00:55:11.120 --> 00:55:13.400
And then I'll send you some video recordings

843
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:14.600
of what I'm doing.

844
00:55:14.600 --> 00:55:16.240
And then I think I just need to-

845
00:55:16.240 --> 00:55:19.920
Yeah, and anything, any feedback stuff on the challenge

846
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:21.400
of like you can just drop it in the channel

847
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.680
and tag me in the feed itself.

848
00:55:23.680 --> 00:55:25.320
Cause then everybody else can, I know,

849
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:26.320
Xavier didn't really have any question,

850
00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:27.600
but he said he got some ideas

851
00:55:28.560 --> 00:55:31.200
from how you were, us doing this now.

852
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:34.680
And then what was the other thing?

853
00:55:34.680 --> 00:55:35.520
I was gonna say one other thing.

854
00:55:35.520 --> 00:55:37.000
Oh, just on the picture thing

855
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:38.240
to help you simplify the brand.

856
00:55:38.240 --> 00:55:42.840
Like I would recommend putting a picture of you on there.

857
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:44.800
So it's super clear, like this is Jennifer

858
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:48.120
and she's gonna lead this thing about how to, you know,

859
00:55:48.120 --> 00:55:50.880
just so, cause it's, it also, it looks,

860
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:52.880
it feels a little bit too much like an ad

861
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:54.840
or too much just like a postcard.

862
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:55.680
You know what I'm saying?

863
00:55:55.680 --> 00:55:56.520
It needs to be just real-

864
00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:59.000
Like on my branding for the webinars.

865
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:01.640
Like your graphic there, you know,

866
00:56:02.720 --> 00:56:04.160
potentially could just be you

867
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.760
or if you had time to make it more of like,

868
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:10.480
like if you had a, you have a great picture of you

869
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:12.240
that would be like representative, you know,

870
00:56:12.240 --> 00:56:13.800
your LinkedIn profile picture,

871
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:15.080
that's like way more corporate.

872
00:56:15.080 --> 00:56:16.400
And then you would, you know,

873
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:18.520
a little bit more casual with your family.

874
00:56:18.520 --> 00:56:19.360
You could have like that

875
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:21.800
with like the before and after or something.

876
00:56:23.240 --> 00:56:24.600
Really just to like drive,

877
00:56:24.600 --> 00:56:26.840
cause you've got a lot of visual space

878
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:29.160
and other than like, oh, this is for women.

879
00:56:29.160 --> 00:56:32.400
It doesn't really like scream what it's about.

880
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:36.280
You know, that's where you wanna be like,

881
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.640
like this, it could be like a skincare,

882
00:56:38.640 --> 00:56:40.440
like, you know, webinar.

883
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:41.720
Casey can speak more to these.

884
00:56:41.720 --> 00:56:42.880
That was the one-

885
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:46.480
I've ended, left my, the grace for this niche

886
00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:48.280
of what I can speak to.

887
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:50.480
That was the one comp,

888
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:53.560
like the one thought that I had is I would have no,

889
00:56:53.560 --> 00:56:57.120
I would join your thing if I just thought I was like,

890
00:56:57.120 --> 00:57:00.000
your who is corporate women

891
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:02.040
who are trying to get out of the corporate space.

892
00:57:02.040 --> 00:57:06.600
And I would have no idea by looking at your stuff.

893
00:57:06.600 --> 00:57:08.920
I just think it seems like a, like a pretty woman's,

894
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:11.840
like I had as a woman would wanna join it,

895
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:15.640
but like me as a, just a woman in general,

896
00:57:15.640 --> 00:57:16.880
not like a corporate woman.

897
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:19.920
So I think speaking to, like Bruce said,

898
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:23.040
from C-suite to so on, so forth,

899
00:57:23.040 --> 00:57:28.040
like making your messaging clear on your graphic

900
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:33.000
that like making sure they feel spoken to,

901
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:35.600
like I should be able to read your headline

902
00:57:35.600 --> 00:57:37.920
and know this is for me.

903
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:39.000
Yeah, that makes sense.

904
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:41.080
So yeah, that's, that was like literally

905
00:57:41.080 --> 00:57:44.680
my only comment I had is making it a little bit more clear

906
00:57:44.680 --> 00:57:47.600
from upfront, because I think your messaging

907
00:57:47.600 --> 00:57:52.440
through your course and through the background is clear.

908
00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:55.040
Like once they're in it, it would be clear,

909
00:57:55.040 --> 00:57:57.840
but I would never need to join it from the front

910
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:00.080
based off of the messaging now.

911
00:58:00.080 --> 00:58:01.320
Got it, okay.

912
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:02.160
No, I appreciate that.

913
00:58:02.160 --> 00:58:03.240
Yeah, and I think that's true.

914
00:58:03.240 --> 00:58:05.360
Like when people have an hour conversation with me

915
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:07.040
or when I spoke in Miami

916
00:58:07.040 --> 00:58:09.200
and like spoke at the Women Entrepreneur event,

917
00:58:09.200 --> 00:58:11.200
they're like, oh my gosh, we wanna work with you.

918
00:58:11.200 --> 00:58:13.040
But if I had just seen an ad,

919
00:58:13.040 --> 00:58:15.480
they probably been like, you know, what is she doing?

920
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:16.320
So no.

921
00:58:16.520 --> 00:58:17.840
I feel like.

922
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:19.000
Jump to another meeting,

923
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:21.160
but I really appreciate the time and the feedback.

924
00:58:21.160 --> 00:58:23.000
Bruce, thanks for scheduling this for me.

925
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:26.600
And, you know, I'm excited to be launching, so.

926
00:58:26.600 --> 00:58:28.000
Yeah, you're so close.

927
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:28.840
You're gonna do it.

928
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:29.680
I feel it.

929
00:58:29.680 --> 00:58:30.520
Awesome.

930
00:58:30.520 --> 00:58:31.360
All right, thank you.

931
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:32.200
All right, bye.