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became believers in that church. So that's the story. But that made me think about generational

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blessings, right? Both of their parents and grandparents were Pentecostal believers,

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but they had just totally angered to God, and then God brought them back. So it was a cool...

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Wow. David's just sharing with us his faith origin story from his parents' salvation

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experience. So welcome to Monday, November 3rd, Men's Heart Check-in. So recording this now.

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Thanks for sharing with us, David. That's a pretty awesome story.

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We should have probably recorded that, but it's all right. We'll get it another time.

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You'll probably end up writing a book or something about it someday. I could see that.

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Maybe. So guys, welcome, Bob and David, David Wright, Sean, Matthew Silverman, John,

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or Dorothy. Good to see you guys here. What is going on? Who wants to start off a little bit?

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If you got something to share, got something to talk about, something... Bob had a great question

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for us last week, and so we kind of went off on that a little bit. But what have you got going on?

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Who wants to update us? Anybody? Everybody? All day long.

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Bob's coming on camera.

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Okay, you're unmuted. You're good, Bob.

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Okay. Again, this is only my second session here, right? So I'm still going through the book

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and the series of weeks and going through this. And I know last week I had to question, I guess,

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it's like this Heart Check for me, at least, going through this is I'm supposed to be addressing a

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question, I guess, each week as I go through my check-ins. So I guess for this week, the one I was

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looking at now for week two for me was, you know, have I lost hope in any area of my life? And

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when I talk about this area of life, what do I say about it? So part of the reason I'm here, I guess,

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is I have become discouraged at this point in somewhat, you know, my hope is lessened,

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is really the chance for a healthy kind of relationship with a good or godly Christian

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woman, right? So my own journey is kind of a little bit, it took me quite a while to get

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back into my faith. You know, it wasn't until I was in my 50s that I was raised Catholic and

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my father was Baptist. He was a Bible reader, but I didn't. It was really a series of things,

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but led me up to kind of a crisis point in my life in my 50s and mid 50s. And I had to make

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some decisions. And I went back to church and did some things and got baptized again. And

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all that. So post all that was like coming out of that because my marriage was not a Christian

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marriage. But coming out of it, it's like, okay, God, I've gone through all this. I really would

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like this opportunity now to, you know, have to be a good husband to a godly Christian woman,

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right? So back of my life on things, you know, there's, you know, you look at the childhood

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stuff and the things that affected me, there was a fear of rejection and abandonment,

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feeling unworthy within my family. So these things are kind of like the things that were,

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I guess, what Jackie would call the fruits, right? But the things from like,

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the things are put upon me in my youth and stuff. And, you know, the influence to me

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throughout my life, right? And I did do counseling and stuff throughout my life. But, you know,

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it was wasn't really until I hit the crisis point in my 50s, where I started really

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having to address these things more head on. And I came out of that stuff. And so now,

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I just also came out of a two year, not just actually, I was in a two year relationship,

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I finally thought I had the woman who was the Christian woman I had prayed for coming into my

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life. We're in a two year relationship. And that ended about two years ago, a little over two years

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ago now. But it was, because it ended, and because I thought this was an answer to prayer,

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it kind of set me back, right? It kind of started bringing up these feelings, again,

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being unworthy of not, you know, being rejected.

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abandoned and I'm now in this kind of place of, well, you know,

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where are you God? I, I, this wasn't supposed to be where I was landing.

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You know, I, I recently retired.

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So now I'm like, God, I thought at this point in my life,

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I was going to have this Christian partner with me. I was gonna be, you know,

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riding off into my sunset here. And now I ended my career.

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I'm kind of lacking a purpose post post retirement now. Like, okay, God,

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I feel like I'm, so I guess the question now is like the second part of that

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question. I talk about this area of my life. What am I saying? It's like,

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I don't know what's going on, you know? Um,

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so I really kind of have to kind of reorient myself

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to like pull those fruits out by the roots,

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those kind of satanic type thoughts out by the roots and kind of really replace

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them with the true identity I have. Right.

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And start to bring that back to the forefront for me and start to,

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you know, come back to still pursuing what I hope to be.

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The last part of my life would be to be involved with a nice Christian woman so

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I can, you know, I, like I said, I think I had a decent career.

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I think I'm a good father, a good relationship with my kids. Yet I still,

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the one failure I can see would be relationally. Right.

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And it's the thing I want to close on.

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So that's kind of where I am in all this.

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So it's going back to the question where I lost hope would have been largely in,

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in a relationship with a godly Christian woman.

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And the things I talk about and what I say about it,

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it's really just a struggle I have with kind of some of these old feelings

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coming back up about, Hey, I'm being abandoned again. You know, God,

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where are you in all this? And what's my way forward? Is it too late for me?

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Yeah. Yeah. Um,

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I'm just posting the question there from the instructions in part two there.

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So just so everybody knows what the question is. Um, yeah.

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When you say that you didn't have a Christian marriage, what do you,

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what do you mean exactly by that?

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Well, there's a good story here, but I'll try to answer.

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The short answer is I was raised Catholic, uh, in my twenties.

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I lapsed even go into Catholic churches. Um,

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I lived a bit of a party and lifestyle in my twenties and kind of settled

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down. Um, and my father died when I was 30. He was, he was Baptist.

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And he had read the Bible. So when I was 30, when I first finally said, you know,

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let me read the Bible, what was he reading this for? And I, um,

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read it end to end twice. Um, I, I didn't quite get,

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I didn't go to a Bible study, just read it. Right.

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So I didn't get the concept of grace and I just basically said, look,

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I'll never going to be this good. I can't do this. I'll do the best I can.

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I hope that's kind of good enough.

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So I ended up entering marriage with somebody who was not a Christian. Um,

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and even though I would say on our first, um, Christmas together,

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I shared with her a Bible as a Christmas gift. I said, you know,

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even though I don't go to church,

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this is still something that's important to me as a foundation. Right.

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But she wasn't. And in fact, at, as the marriage deteriorated,

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um, and got worse is when I went back to the Bible and I just like think thought

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was God, if you resurrected dead, help me resurrect this marriage. Right.

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Cause it wasn't what I signed up to do enter, you know, leave a marriage.

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And this was now about 20 year marriage. So, um,

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in the end, it's also one of the things she held,

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basically held against me was I was becoming too Christian. So,

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so she didn't like that part of it. No. Okay. That's interesting. Um, you know,

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cause I mean, um, I,

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and the reason I asked that question because I just, I'm just,

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just curious to me, like when somebody says it's not a Christian marriage,

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does that mean someone is,

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isn't a believer in the marriage or whether that was just,

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we're just two people who are married, but we're not really following, you know,

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Christ in terms of our, you know, um, our, our faith development,

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our develop, you know, our, our, our better selves, if you will.

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So it's just really interesting. I didn't want to clarify on that, but, um,

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so then you're saying also that that was part of,

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as you're returning back to some sort of faith,

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that was then a deal breaker for her eventually in the marriage. Did she,

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was she the one that wanted to break the marriage or you or both or she did?

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She did. I was trying for about two years.

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I was trying to recommit myself to this marriage. Interesting. Yeah.

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And it was finally, it was actually,

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it was on a Valentine's day and I got no response to anything.

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I gave my daughter's flowers and gifts and I gave her something.

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Let me ask you this. What, I mean, did your wife love you?

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Um, once you're married,

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when you're married, yeah, of course. Yes.

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It seems like a loaded question. It's not loaded question.

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It's just kind of like.

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You know, when two people come together,

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and I'm going somewhere with this,

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because there's the whole original faith,

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you know, obviously we're believers,

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we think everybody should be believers,

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but there are people that are married, that are in love,

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that are, you know, in love with each other

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as much as they know love,

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and they're committed to the marriage relationship

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because they're in a healthy, good, you know, marriage,

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and they're not really believers.

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And so obviously it doesn't require you to believe in Jesus

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in order to have a successful marriage,

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because relationship,

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it still goes back to God,

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because in the end, we as humans, we as creations of God,

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you know, our primary purpose is relationship.

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It just so happens that the people

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who aren't necessarily followers of Jesus per se

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in their faith, out loud, even in private, whatever,

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but yet have successful marriages

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are simply individuals that know how to have relationship.

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Not that everybody else doesn't know

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how to have relationships,

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but something I saw the other day, it was a meme,

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and it, I can't remember, I can't quote it exactly,

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but it was talking about long-term relationships,

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like 30 years plus type of relationships,

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or that made it 30, 40, 50 years, that kind of thing.

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And it was espousing some secrets,

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like what is the secrets of this?

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And part of it was that when you get into marriage,

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there becomes the time where you start to sort of like

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get on each other's nerves, and real life sets in,

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and you're beyond the honeymoon period,

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and you're in midlife, and the stressors of life

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are really starting to sort of set in,

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especially if you've been married,

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if you're gonna be married 30, 40, 50 years,

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you probably got married a little bit younger, you know?

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So what I'm saying is, is that at some point,

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marriage is like this,

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where, you know, it really begins to challenge you

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as a person, each person, man and woman,

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and the marriages that last are the ones

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that aren't trying to set every record straight

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every moment, every day.

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They're the ones that give the space and the length of time

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for a lot of those things to be worked out.

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And there's also a certain level of acceptance,

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for who the other person is.

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There's so many people in marriage,

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and this, again, has nothing to do

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whether you're a follower of Jesus,

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or whether you're a good Christian person, or whatever,

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this is just humans, creations,

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humans that are created in the image of God

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for relationships, so there is a God quotient in there, okay?

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But there comes a time where, you know,

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the refinement of the relationship, especially in marriage,

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which is the ultimate of all relationships,

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it becomes very difficult,

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and the ones who navigate it well

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are the ones that give plenty of room

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for each person to be developed.

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And there's a temptation in marriage,

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men and women both kind of have the same,

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maybe not necessarily to equal balances

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in any given marriage,

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but there's a lot of things that happen in marriage

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where the wife is trying to change the husband,

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and wish he was different,

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and wish he would change his ways,

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and vice versa, where the husband's like,

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oh, I wish he was not like this and that,

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and this really drives me crazy,

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and a lot of these are the basis of the conflicts

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in this ultimate relationship we call marriage.

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All of that is very normal.

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That's because that's what relationship is,

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that's what marriage is, you know?

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And the ones that, so like,

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it's funny because we have a young man

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who recently just got married in our program,

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and he'd been a long time in this program,

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and it was one of those stories that's like,

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man, you know, I wish Nathan, man,

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could find the right girl,

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and you know, just, you know,

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it's one of those like later in life sort of stories

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where he finally found somebody,

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fell in love, and they got married,

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and we've heard back from him,

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I think it's been about a year,

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or they're definitely in their first year,

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and all of a sudden, he's disappointed.

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He's on the verge of maybe like,

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oh, I don't know if this is gonna work,

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almost to the point of kind of like,

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say it, but I don't think I want this, you know, this marriage anymore. And we're like, oh, Nathan,

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well, why? Like, why in the world? He goes, well, it seems like we go for a couple of weeks

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and everything's fine. And then something, something comes up and there's a conflict and

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it's just like not working out. And it's like, it happens over and over and over again. And we're

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like, Nathan, that's marriage, brother. That is, that is relationship, my dear friend. That is

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the essence. I mean, that's kind of like, you can't really avoid that. And I'm not,

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I'm not really making this point because I want to be negative. I'm just saying that,

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um, you know, the, the marriage relationship is the most refining and it's the best relationship

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because of that refinement, because of that ability to bring out the best in you.

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And so that is where your mindset needs to be as you're approaching, you know,

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going down this path of wanting marriage, wanting to be in relationship.

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One of the things that we are now being tasked with, I think as a movement, I think the Lord

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is really kind of revealing this is that we have to start really amplifying the, the benefits,

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the greatness, the beauty of marriage. Um, like how great it is, even though it is challenging,

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how great it is because there's a generation coming up where, you know, they they're coming

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back to these traditional values. Um, generation Z, if you will, the Z generation is, um,

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getting married at a, at a higher rate than the previous generation, the, um, millennials.

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And, um, millennials just are just decided that marriage wasn't going to be, um,

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you know, a strong, a strong desire in their generation for a number of different reasons.

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And there's a lot of statistics that go into that, but there's a revival of marriage and our

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movement, um, is tasked with really making marriage popular marriage, making marriage,

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great, making marriage exciting. And, um, we're going to be talking about a lot of the things that,

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that, uh, that make marriage great from the standpoint of like,

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basically dismantling all the things that are wrong in our society. Now we kind of know that

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we kind of know that there's this best way that there's this, um, there's this better way. I think

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if you're of any kind of age, you understand, or if you've been paying attention or you have a heart

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towards the Lord, you kind of understand, you kind of take it for granted, but it's

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tremendously under assault right now. This, um, so in other words, there are a lot of young people,

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especially that are out there, maybe in their thirties that are thinking, you know what,

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it's just easier to not be married. I mean, economically, you know, relationally, you know,

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you don't have to deal with the difficulty. There's just so many other things to do.

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I can, you know, just involve myself with my career. And there's just so many other things I

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can do with my life rather than have to do this really hard, difficult thing called relationship.

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And I can just go through my life. And so there's a real strong move for young people to,

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to make that choice. And it's true to a degree. The reason, the reasoning behind it seems true,

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but in the end, it still leaves the very void, the very absence of good,

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solid relationships. Of course, it negates the entire establishing of any kind of family in that

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situation, any kind of legacy, any kind of heritage. Of course, we all know that it's an

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anathema against kingdom value and kingdom work. If you're not pursuing that.

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So I'm saying all this because I'm just kind of laying a foundation for, I feel like, where we're going to go.

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And when you're talking about like answering the question, have you lost hope in any area of your life?

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I want to give you hope back because, I mean, yes, your personal walk and your personal development in Christ is foundational to who you are.

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It's going to be your best foot forward. It's going to be your most authentic identity.

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And at the same time, there's some practical things in terms of just like being successful in relationship.

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What are some of the things you think that, other than the faith thing, do you think there were things that would have been different had you, like, maybe you would still be married had you changed other things in your relationship?

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Or was the faith thing just such a high thing that it just was not negotiable for her?

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No, no, it wasn't that, I would say.

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But, you know, looking back at, look, we were both somewhat broken people in what we're bringing together.

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And I could look now and I didn't see some of the brokenness that she had in her that she refuses to this day to still address.

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So no matter what I would have done, you know, it wouldn't have solved what she had.

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Probably would have ended up this way anyway.

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Exactly. I remember, I can remember standing when I was going through all this, standing in front of a mirror one morning and just saying, God, please just tell me what you want from me.

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If you want me to stay in this marriage, I will do it.

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If it's OK for this to end, let me know that it's OK.

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Right. And I always felt like from that point forward, it was like God put a laid out a path for her.

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And it said, all right, you're coming to an intersection.

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I want you to turn right. Well, she would make the left turn.

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All right, then. OK, let's try this again.

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We're going to go up and she would make a right.

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So it's always oppositional.

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And frankly, as I look at it, not just oppositional.

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You know, there was a lot of opposition to me also.

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I didn't realize what she was using me in some ways in her relationships to empower herself.

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I think she felt secure in relation to actually be oppositional to me because it made her feel strong, which I didn't understand in some of the dynamics until I learned the family dynamics later.

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I understood why that was.

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So we ended up really being like I came to conclusion.

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I can't. You're not until you fix yourself.

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There's no fixing here. I can do my part to fix me and deal with my stuff.

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But if you're not going to do yours, there's nothing there's nothing I can do to save this.

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Yeah, yeah. I understand that.

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No, I totally understand that. I had some of that with my ex wife.

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And even though I'm on paper.

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I'm in the relationship and how it ended, you know, I kind of look like the good guy because I was still in church and that kind of thing.

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She wasn't. But there were a lot of inefficiencies.

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There were a lot of deficiencies or a lot of heart wounds that I came to now know in my life that could have made that situation better.

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But nevertheless, I think it probably like your situation, it would have still ended up the same way at some point.

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And so yeah so so I totally can identify with that I totally can understand that.

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The reason I was asking that was because it's important obviously as you're going through your heart work I mean you're in you're like you're in week two.

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A lot of the other guys are either have gone through the heart work and maybe even you guys are being encouraged or spurned to do it again or do some more hard work, because it is a continuing process.

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But as you're doing that obviously going to have to do the hard work around that around that previous relationship around, you know, releasing for forgiveness and and towards her towards yourself and that kind of thing you know and as you do that

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I just wanted to encourage you that, you know, there's hope.

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There is.

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There's always hope. There's always hope for a better way.

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God always has plans he always has thoughts.

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He has millions and billions of thoughts toward us.

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And we need to take hope in that.

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It's like last week's question, like, um, God does care about and he's

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emotionally and intimately involved with our situation, you know, and, um,

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and that as you're doing your heartwork, I hope that you're going to see that

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there's some freedom, some, there's some greater understanding sounds like

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you've got a lot of greater understanding just by going through some of the

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process, because it seems like you have a pretty clear mind that, Hey, this wasn't

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all right, there was some things and I'm, I'm realizing some things about

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myself. So I'd love that. And I want to encourage you just to continue doing

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that heartwork, go through the, go through all, all the course material.

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And, um, and process that and just allow God to really heal you and all those

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areas and bring you to a, you know, a better version of yourself, because I

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think there is the world. There's a world I know because we just had a

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party and 90% of the people at the party were all women. So I know there's a lot

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of beautiful, God-loving available, single women doing their heartwork that

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are waiting for good men to, you know, reveal themselves. So the odds are in

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your favor for sure. Um, but it just seems like there's some things you're

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still working through and that's great. That's awesome. So don't be

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You know, it's, it's sometimes they use that in a moment, but some of these

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things I almost feel like they, they, some of the, maybe some, maybe on this

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side of heaven or something, there's still going to be some wounds that just

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don't always 100% go away. I mean, my contribution into failing this marriage

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had to do, I own, you know, I grew up in a family I felt totally abandoned and

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rejected from, you know, and I'm fearful of my parents and I was, you know, to a

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void them and their kind of anger and stuff. I would, you know, I'd go off and

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isolate, right. And that turned into part of a pattern in my marriage, which

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was, he was volatile and, you know, as he got angry, my response was to pull it

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was to isolate, move away, get me out of here, right. Rather than, you know, one

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of the things I do learn, I think through this was, you know, you look at

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God and he, you know, he captures our tears, he counts our hairs, he knows

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everything about us, right. And he still loves us, despite of the fact we are

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flawed and we are sinners and he wants us to come to him. And I was like, that's,

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to me, that was like, alright, God wants us to be vulnerable with him. So if the

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sign of a healthy relationship is to be vulnerable with God, then a healthy

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relationship should also be vulnerable with people. Yes, absolutely, absolutely.

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Right. So that is like, I realized, and this has happened later in my life, is

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part of what I realized was when I was isolating, pulling away from her, I

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wasn't doing anything in terms of being vulnerable towards her or for her. Right.

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Like, that's not helping this relationship. You know, I need to be

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there to support some, that's what you talk about, like the stuff, I mean, you

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want to have intimacy after 50 years of walking into life with somebody, that's

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Yeah, that is true. That's powerful. Bob, thanks for sharing that. It's so good

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because it's so true what you're saying. The vulnerability, it's risky. It is

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risky, but it's worth it in relationship. Because if both of you are choosing,

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again and again, at the end of the day, that's one of the things that attracted

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me, Jackie, at, you know, when we got together, we were having a glorious,

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great time and fun. The summer that we met, and we got married, and we were

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still having fun. But then life really started to like, settle in because we

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were having career issues, you know, my career ministry was ending. And we were

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trying to blend our family, we had the kids. And so you know, the reality of

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life starts to really settle in once you make that commitment. And so really,

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almost immediately, we started having like real life problems in in and

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outside the marriage. And of course, we were thinking that, you know, we had just

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come out of bad relationships, both of us kind of at the same time, you know,

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didn't know each other, but then on the tail end of that, and two years sort of

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like, in like, disenfranchised from our, from our former spouses, we, when we

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came together, we didn't realize that there were going to be some more heart

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wounds, and we were going to trigger each other different ways, because we

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were two different people coming together now. And there were some things

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that I really had to work through, because Jackie was a

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woman than what I was used to. She was very different than my ex-wife. So just on type

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of woman, personality, family history, there were some similarities, but there were a lot

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of differences. She's a formidable force to be dealt with. If you can imagine the woman

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that speaks so eloquently to thousands of singles and leads a movement and so forth,

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she is full of wisdom. She's full of all things to say, and she's full of life and energy and

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all that stuff and passion. And she's just as passionate and forceful and mitigating and all

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of that in relationship as well. And I just wasn't used to that. And so there were some

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things that I had to get used to on her behalf. And then there was a lot of hard work that I

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needed to do to come up into my best self. And I was doing a lot of that, Bob. I would retreat.

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I would go away. I would just like, okay, you know what? Be quiet and deal with rejection that

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way. And I had to learn how to confront, healthily confront. I had to learn to be present. I had to

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learn to be engaged. I had to learn to initiate. I had to learn to not give up. I had to learn to

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pursue. So there's a lot of things there that you're bringing up that I think are really powerful.

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And I see, I see God showing you and challenging you and giving you that. So I just, I really pray

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and believe that there's going to be an opportunity for you to really be in great relationship and do

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that, have a lot of excellence with it as well. So, amen. Yeah, no problem. Guys, who else,

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what else is going on? Don't make me call you out. Yeah, I'll go. Go ahead, David. I am single again.

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So that was, yeah, I think that that's what needed to happen. But I really tried to be,

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I really tried to take Jackie's advice and just leaving the person better than I found them and

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just really trying to be, yeah, just focus on the positives and that they didn't think it well.

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And I think I could have done some things differently. Yeah, of course. Yeah.

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But what did you learn from this relationship? If there's one thing that you could pull out and say,

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you know, I think this is probably, maybe not the greatest, I mean, but just one thing that's

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really powerful that kind of stood out in terms of something that you learned from being in this

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situation. That I'm ready. Oh, okay. That I'm ready to pursue marriage and that I think,

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yeah, just that like trusting the Lord and that one, I don't have to fix everything and you can

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just let that person be who they are and they're doing their hard work and really that's the Holy

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Spirit's job and you don't have to point out every mistake. But yeah, and I think just kind of like,

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from what I've learned is like not trying to control it, but just trusting God and trusting

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that the Holy Spirit's got it. And so for me, Jackie was doing a teaching and the teaching was

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like, okay, what season are you in? And when it came to my turn to share, it's like, what season

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are you in? What season were you in? What are you planting? And what are you going to harvest? Right?

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And so for me, I just kept seeing gold and but then Jackie asked, okay, David, but what do you

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need to let go of in order to harvest? And I was like, and I knew the person who I was talking with

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was like on the call, like the girl who's in the relationship with, but I said, Lord, I have to

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say this. And Jackie was like, you got to say it. And I was like, okay. So I said the relationship

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I'm in, and that's not how I would do it. I think if I could do something differently,

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I probably wouldn't have. She felt really humiliated by that. And no one really knows

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her or that no one would have known. It's just she knew. Yeah, she knew. And that felt humiliating

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that I would do that on live stream. Right. And even though like, we'd had a long conversation

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before that chat. And I said, like, do we want to have the end of chat? And she said, no, like,

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she's not yet. And so I said, okay. And so then we had that when that came out, and I was like,

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okay. And so I actually turned my phone off because I thought, you know what, I need to clear my head

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for this. And so I know she's going to call me right away and want to know all these answers,

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but I don't have these answers. So in kindness, and this might not sound like a kindness, but I

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just turned my phone off because I said, Lord, like, I need to sleep on this. And then in the

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morning, I'm going to write a really kind response that just explains this. And so in the morning,

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when I woke up, I wrote a really kind response.

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And one of the things that Jackie shared

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on Supernatural Saturday was that like,

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blessings will just come, right?

424
00:35:08.180 --> 00:35:09.820
And you know, don't try to control it

425
00:35:09.820 --> 00:35:11.020
because blessings will just come

426
00:35:11.020 --> 00:35:12.880
and you just have to accept as they're coming.

427
00:35:13.120 --> 00:35:16.040
And so today, my landlord said, you know,

428
00:35:16.040 --> 00:35:17.240
my wife and I have been talking

429
00:35:17.240 --> 00:35:19.920
and we really need to help you with your debt.

430
00:35:20.140 --> 00:35:21.240
And I said, what?

431
00:35:21.260 --> 00:35:22.960
And he said, yeah, so through my corporation,

432
00:35:23.020 --> 00:35:26.580
he's like, we actually, we wanna pay all your debt off.

433
00:35:27.140 --> 00:35:28.520
He's like, I don't want you to have credit card debt.

434
00:35:28.520 --> 00:35:29.940
He's like, I want you to destroy your credit cards.

435
00:35:30.300 --> 00:35:31.640
I still need at least one credit card

436
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:33.300
because in life you need a credit card.

437
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.660
But he's like, and we're gonna give you enough seed money

438
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.200
to fully launch your business

439
00:35:39.540 --> 00:35:40.860
and pay off your credit cards.

440
00:35:40.860 --> 00:35:42.580
Cause he said like, I don't want this to cripple you.

441
00:35:42.620 --> 00:35:45.640
And he's like, these credit card loans are crippling you.

442
00:35:46.780 --> 00:35:49.160
And he said, so my wife and I have been talking

443
00:35:50.620 --> 00:35:52.280
and he said, you know, I wanna sit down,

444
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:53.500
me, you and your dad.

445
00:35:53.680 --> 00:35:55.540
And I told him that my dad wasn't really interested

446
00:35:55.780 --> 00:35:56.740
in helping me financially.

447
00:35:56.820 --> 00:35:57.580
And he said, okay, well,

448
00:35:57.580 --> 00:35:58.680
then you and me are gonna sit down.

449
00:35:58.900 --> 00:36:00.360
You're gonna make a business plan tomorrow.

450
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:02.160
And we are gonna sit down.

451
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:04.440
He's like, I'm busy, but through my corporation,

452
00:36:05.980 --> 00:36:07.120
I'm gonna help you.

453
00:36:07.540 --> 00:36:09.560
And my wife and I, he says, there's one thing,

454
00:36:09.640 --> 00:36:11.780
they just went on a spiritual trip to BC.

455
00:36:12.040 --> 00:36:14.300
And he says, and every day the Lord said,

456
00:36:14.860 --> 00:36:16.840
I want you to help David Wright with his debt.

457
00:36:17.040 --> 00:36:17.660
Get him out of jail.

458
00:36:18.380 --> 00:36:19.220
The boy needs help.

459
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:24.440
And so, I mean, this might be awesome.

460
00:36:24.520 --> 00:36:26.900
It might not happen, but just the fact that he was like,

461
00:36:26.900 --> 00:36:28.820
hey, he said, through my corporation,

462
00:36:29.020 --> 00:36:30.700
like we're gonna give you a business loan.

463
00:36:31.660 --> 00:36:33.840
We, you need to be out of debt and we need you to,

464
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:35.840
he's like, it's time to start striving.

465
00:36:36.900 --> 00:36:37.460
Wow.

466
00:36:38.820 --> 00:36:39.940
Wow, okay.

467
00:36:40.940 --> 00:36:42.840
Yeah, I mean, it is unfortunate

468
00:36:43.520 --> 00:36:46.360
in terms of how that came across to her.

469
00:36:47.140 --> 00:36:49.100
Did she reciprocate to the letter?

470
00:36:49.460 --> 00:36:51.000
Did that help her at all?

471
00:36:52.720 --> 00:36:54.800
So I've never gotten a response

472
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:56.420
the way that she responded.

473
00:36:57.080 --> 00:36:59.100
So she just was kind of cold and she just said,

474
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.100
okay, hey, I will respond to this in time.

475
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:02.420
I'm not ready right now.

476
00:37:02.640 --> 00:37:03.460
I will respond when I'm ready.

477
00:37:03.460 --> 00:37:05.540
So you haven't got an actual response from her yet?

478
00:37:06.460 --> 00:37:08.400
No, and I don't know if I will.

479
00:37:09.200 --> 00:37:09.200


480
00:37:09.640 --> 00:37:10.080
Yeah, you might.

481
00:37:11.180 --> 00:37:12.540
I just, yeah, no.

482
00:37:12.540 --> 00:37:16.260
I mean, obviously it's like double-edged

483
00:37:16.340 --> 00:37:18.400
because it was kind of kudos in the moment

484
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:20.500
for you like saying what needed to be said,

485
00:37:20.560 --> 00:37:23.100
but at the same time, yeah,

486
00:37:23.100 --> 00:37:25.920
that was a little,

487
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.160
it could have been a little harsh for her.

488
00:37:30.420 --> 00:37:31.840
And I understand that,

489
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:40.120
but that you had a heart to try to mend that is honorable,

490
00:37:40.980 --> 00:37:41.940
but at the same time,

491
00:37:41.940 --> 00:37:44.120
it might've been a little too little too late

492
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:45.500
in that situation.

493
00:37:45.500 --> 00:37:46.740
But you don't know that yet

494
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:50.260
because you might still get a response from her.

495
00:37:50.260 --> 00:37:55.380
You never know what that situation might've produced.

496
00:37:56.560 --> 00:37:59.040
So had you had to do it all over again?

497
00:37:59.700 --> 00:38:00.480
I don't know.

498
00:38:00.600 --> 00:38:02.260
Maybe it wouldn't have done it any different.

499
00:38:02.420 --> 00:38:05.560
I don't know, but okay.

500
00:38:05.560 --> 00:38:08.480
Well, we just pray that she's,

501
00:38:10.340 --> 00:38:13.660
that God is, we believe that God has heard

502
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:16.980
and he's doing what he's doing in her life as well.

503
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:18.140
She's still part of the community?

504
00:38:19.100 --> 00:38:19.380
Yeah.

505
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:20.020
Okay.

506
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:21.520
All right.

507
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:22.560
Okay.

508
00:38:22.560 --> 00:38:24.000
Well, I'm sure that,

509
00:38:25.040 --> 00:38:27.060
I'm sure she's going to be okay.

510
00:38:29.740 --> 00:38:30.380
Okay.

511
00:38:30.380 --> 00:38:33.020
So you're moving on, you're moving forward.

512
00:38:33.460 --> 00:38:36.340
And so you've learned at least that you're ready

513
00:38:36.700 --> 00:38:40.160
and so she's basically not the right one

514
00:38:40.160 --> 00:38:41.400
or not at this time,

515
00:38:41.720 --> 00:38:43.680
or maybe just not the right one.

516
00:38:44.080 --> 00:38:44.560
Yeah.

517
00:38:44.560 --> 00:38:47.220
I just think it was a matter of just not a great match.

518
00:38:47.860 --> 00:38:49.100
You know, like it just.

519
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:50.320
That's fine.

520
00:38:50.940 --> 00:38:50.940


521
00:38:51.460 --> 00:38:51.900
Okay.

522
00:38:53.200 --> 00:38:55.060
Well, okay, man.

523
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:58.460
Well, we're still in it to win it with you.

524
00:38:58.860 --> 00:39:00.000
So praise God.

525
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:02.080
Yeah, yeah, I'm glad.

526
00:39:02.660 --> 00:39:04.340
They're for sure, the odds are in,

527
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:06.620
you know, a good Christian man,

528
00:39:07.220 --> 00:39:08.360
the odds are in his favor.

529
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:09.320
If he wants to get married,

530
00:39:09.380 --> 00:39:10.260
because I'm telling you what,

531
00:39:10.380 --> 00:39:12.780
there's way more women that want to be married

532
00:39:13.160 --> 00:39:15.240
that wanted a good godly man,

533
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.440
young, middle, old, age, you know, whatever.

534
00:39:20.980 --> 00:39:21.640
It doesn't really matter.

535
00:39:22.940 --> 00:39:25.200
It's just, you know, it's the odds are in your favor.

536
00:39:26.680 --> 00:39:26.680


537
00:39:29.180 --> 00:39:29.500
you know,

538
00:39:31.600 --> 00:39:33.660
just bless you in that endeavor.

539
00:39:33.740 --> 00:39:34.720
Yeah, thank you.

540
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:35.880


541
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:36.100
Pardon me?

542
00:39:36.640 --> 00:39:37.840
Did you want, did you add something else?

543
00:39:38.680 --> 00:39:39.740
I found more gold.

544
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:43.860
Oh, you found more gold in your storage container?

545
00:39:44.460 --> 00:39:46.060
Yeah, yeah, I did.

546
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:47.100
Wow.

547
00:39:48.080 --> 00:39:53.760
I've counted, so I've now found over 400 pieces of gold.

548
00:39:54.460 --> 00:39:55.200
Way.

549
00:39:55.860 --> 00:39:56.420
Yeah.

550
00:39:56.980 --> 00:39:58.780
Are they gold coins or jewelry or?

551
00:39:59.440 --> 00:39:59.820
So.

552
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:06.660
Jewelry, um, but some gold coins, but mostly jewelry, uh, 24 carat, uh, diamonds, some

553
00:40:06.660 --> 00:40:12.140
of them with appraisal, some of them not, um, 18 carat, 24 carat, 10 carat.

554
00:40:12.180 --> 00:40:13.680
How are you having these appraised?

555
00:40:14.200 --> 00:40:17.440
Yeah, I'm going to, so how are you having them appraised?

556
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:21.920
So I'm going to have a friend and first I'm going to itemize everything so I know what

557
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:22.340
I have.

558
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:23.500
And so, right.

559
00:40:23.500 --> 00:40:27.960
It's not like all the gold ring will go missing, but I think we're probably going to have two

560
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:29.080
or three different auction houses.

561
00:40:29.300 --> 00:40:30.240
Look at them.

562
00:40:31.180 --> 00:40:37.360
Um, cause for me, I mean, like you're in Canada, yeah, I'm in Canada, but you can go online.

563
00:40:37.500 --> 00:40:38.440
There are gold buyers.

564
00:40:39.040 --> 00:40:39.540
There are.

565
00:40:39.600 --> 00:40:40.020
Yeah.

566
00:40:40.020 --> 00:40:44.200
Know exactly what it is you would have and what you don't have and so forth and they

567
00:40:44.200 --> 00:40:45.660
can assess it pretty good.

568
00:40:46.060 --> 00:40:46.440
Yeah.

569
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:48.360
So we'll, we'll do that.

570
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:48.780
Yeah.

571
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:50.980
Um, I found out a little bit about the guy who had it.

572
00:40:51.020 --> 00:40:52.060
He was a Holocaust survivor.

573
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:57.180
Um, and so this was his estate that he gave to his granddaughter.

574
00:40:57.180 --> 00:41:03.060
But like, I have had to tear everything apart with a hammer because like, okay, so the kitchen

575
00:41:03.060 --> 00:41:06.980
table, well he hit a 24 karat gold necklace inside the table.

576
00:41:07.100 --> 00:41:12.380
So like I had to pull off like the table apart and like, so like for instance, I tore apart

577
00:41:12.380 --> 00:41:13.000
a hope chest.

578
00:41:13.140 --> 00:41:19.000
Well in the hope chest there was like a 24 karat, uh, gold ring in the bottom of the

579
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:20.440
hope chest that he had planted in.

580
00:41:20.600 --> 00:41:23.780
So it's like, so how did you find this out?

581
00:41:23.780 --> 00:41:27.360
But this, this, this, this air of this estate still lives.

582
00:41:27.460 --> 00:41:29.480
I mean, how does that, how does that work with?

583
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:33.220
So basically I bought it because the locker was abandoned.

584
00:41:33.580 --> 00:41:36.600
Um, and there is understand.

585
00:41:37.200 --> 00:41:37.760
Yeah.

586
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:44.360
And so I found this out because, um, in the box that had all the gold in it was his, was

587
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.940
his will and testament and explained who he is, his story.

588
00:41:48.120 --> 00:41:48.980
He was a professor.

589
00:41:49.540 --> 00:41:49.840
Yeah.

590
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:54.200
Um, and so I think what happened is, is that they'd been paying for this locker for like

591
00:41:54.200 --> 00:41:56.660
12, 13 years and never been there in 10 years.

592
00:41:56.720 --> 00:42:01.820
And so I think she came recently, saw that it had gotten moldy and just abandoned it.

593
00:42:01.860 --> 00:42:02.300
Oh.

594
00:42:02.980 --> 00:42:06.820
And I think she may have taken like some of the gold from some different boxes or whatever

595
00:42:06.820 --> 00:42:08.400
and then just left the rest.

596
00:42:08.420 --> 00:42:08.860
Didn't know.

597
00:42:08.900 --> 00:42:08.980
Wow.

598
00:42:10.380 --> 00:42:14.620
But like what I, what I was finding as I was tearing up the furniture that this man hid

599
00:42:14.620 --> 00:42:17.160
like little envelopes of money with her name on it.

600
00:42:17.160 --> 00:42:22.440
So rare dollar bills and like rare gold and just like, but in every piece of furniture

601
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:26.960
that looked trash, I would find gold that he was just hiding and he was a woodworker.

602
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:29.760
So he would just stop a little bit of gold.

603
00:42:30.100 --> 00:42:34.620
And so I was telling off chairs and as I was carrying up the old chairs, gold was falling

604
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:35.480
out.

605
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:36.780
Wow.

606
00:42:36.900 --> 00:42:47.140
And so, and on supernatural Friday or, or Friday, um, um, the Friday, so I called my

607
00:42:47.140 --> 00:42:52.460
dad and, and, and my dad doesn't normally like, he thinks I over-exaggerate cause I

608
00:42:52.460 --> 00:42:53.120
do sometimes.

609
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:55.580
And I thought, Oh my God, it's not going to believe this story.

610
00:42:55.580 --> 00:42:57.660
And he's going to yell at me for buying a storage locker again.

611
00:42:58.080 --> 00:42:59.900
And he said, I believe you.

612
00:43:00.040 --> 00:43:04.680
And that meant so much, but he said, and he says, but the Holy spirit's telling me, and

613
00:43:04.680 --> 00:43:05.720
my dad doesn't talk like that.

614
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:07.240
You need to look in the trash again.

615
00:43:08.520 --> 00:43:12.880
And he said, and he said, even if he says, he says, David, stop what you're doing and

616
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:13.840
go and look in the trash.

617
00:43:14.740 --> 00:43:15.600
So I did.

618
00:43:16.380 --> 00:43:21.300
And, and I'd already sorted through the trash, but I went again and I found a box and in

619
00:43:21.300 --> 00:43:25.480
the box, they, they had taken a little piece of cardboard and put it on top, but I heard

620
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:26.080
it rattling.

621
00:43:26.700 --> 00:43:27.180
Yeah.

622
00:43:27.180 --> 00:43:28.080
Why is this rattling?

623
00:43:28.220 --> 00:43:33.620
And so I lifted it up and there was a 24 karat gold cross, white gold.

624
00:43:33.620 --> 00:43:37.980
And then there was diamonds with appraisals underneath it, like hidden underneath the

625
00:43:37.980 --> 00:43:39.440
false little thing there.

626
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:45.040
Um, I found $52 in, uh, collectible Canadian currency.

627
00:43:45.300 --> 00:43:51.420
So like, like face valued 52, but probably like these are rare, like $1 and $2 bills.

628
00:43:51.560 --> 00:43:53.960
So probably about 200 bucks worth of bills.

629
00:43:54.740 --> 00:44:02.500
Um, and, uh, and then another piece of trash, I found a full bag of black pearls that she

630
00:44:02.500 --> 00:44:03.280
just thrown out.

631
00:44:03.380 --> 00:44:09.180
So I think it was just a young woman who inherited a multimillion dollar estate and was already

632
00:44:09.180 --> 00:44:10.760
already had a lot of cash equity.

633
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:14.740
So she was just like, whatever with the gold, took what she could get from what she felt

634
00:44:14.740 --> 00:44:15.580
like was yeah.

635
00:44:15.740 --> 00:44:16.140
Easy.

636
00:44:16.140 --> 00:44:16.500
Yeah.

637
00:44:16.500 --> 00:44:21.060
And I think like, she probably didn't realize that her grandfather was hiding gold in all

638
00:44:21.060 --> 00:44:21.580
the furniture.

639
00:44:21.580 --> 00:44:21.960
Right.

640
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:28.560
Like, I think he was just kind of like surviving, like stuffing it away, but yeah, both grandfather

641
00:44:28.560 --> 00:44:30.380
and her grandmother were Holocaust survivors.

642
00:44:30.560 --> 00:44:31.180
I looked them up.

643
00:44:31.200 --> 00:44:35.460
That's a, it's a very old school thing to do, of course, and, and, and all of that.

644
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:37.840
And, uh, super, super incredible.

645
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:39.040
That's a credible story.

646
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:45.840
And so one, one dresser I opened and as I was tearing apart the dresser, like $40 worth

647
00:44:46.020 --> 00:44:52.840
of quarters, pure silver quarters, uncirculated fell out of the bottom of the, wow.

648
00:44:53.520 --> 00:44:53.940
So yeah.

649
00:44:54.140 --> 00:44:55.740
We're excited to hear more about that story.

650
00:44:55.740 --> 00:44:59.980
When you get some valuation that is, I just, I, I'm just curious personally, I'm just curious.

651
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:08.920
about that. That's pretty awesome. All right. Um, let's see, David and PA, Sean, Matthew,

652
00:45:09.500 --> 00:45:14.600
what do you guys got? Um, yeah, I'll come up with an update because I don't think I'll be here

653
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:21.280
for a while. Be back, but important because of my schedule. Well, my story can be more opposite.

654
00:45:23.420 --> 00:45:27.880
So I'm at 24 months right now, job seeking this month.

655
00:45:28.340 --> 00:45:35.780
Um, so I'm working, uh, still working six jobs. I was supposed to do, I, well, I showed up for,

656
00:45:36.620 --> 00:45:43.000
uh, jury duty today and I was able to convince the judge that, uh, I would, uh, lose my place

657
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:47.680
if I stayed eight, they wanted me to stay like eight or nine days on a case. So they sent me

658
00:45:47.680 --> 00:45:54.720
home. So that's why I'm, why I'm here. Cause I didn't go to, uh, six flags. And, um, other than

659
00:45:54.720 --> 00:46:00.540
that, um, I'm, I, you know, I like plug in on faith Friday when I, and you kind of like went

660
00:46:00.540 --> 00:46:06.160
on about, uh, that, you know, we now have to have belief and, and, and I do, you know, I,

661
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:11.560
every job I apply for, it's like, this is going to be the one. And then it just tears me down a

662
00:46:11.560 --> 00:46:17.460
little bit more when I get that turned down letter. And, um, I'm still like, so like I said,

663
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:23.940
so I'm working weekends. Huh? I said, Hollywood's going through it. I know.

664
00:46:23.940 --> 00:46:29.280
I, when I sit down with like, when I talk to like people in animation, we'll sit down and talk and

665
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:34.620
I can't do it anymore. I said, I know, I know I'm going to get some, you know, so when they're all

666
00:46:34.620 --> 00:46:42.060
given up, I'm saying I I'm going to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, favor, you know, isn't fair.

667
00:46:43.420 --> 00:46:49.180
So, you know, I just speak that over to you and speak, you know, the favor of the Lord upon you

668
00:46:49.180 --> 00:46:54.980
for the exact right thing. That's going to be a blessing to you. Um, I know he has you in

669
00:46:54.980 --> 00:47:00.220
Hollywood, you know, for, uh, a very, you know, a good reason, specific reason kingdom reason.

670
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:09.120
So, um, there's, there's a season. I mean, the season, there's a prosperity that's in, in this

671
00:47:09.120 --> 00:47:17.420
next season for America and regardless of politically of what you think or believe or

672
00:47:17.420 --> 00:47:24.220
whatever, um, there just is a prosperity that is happening in America, but with technology,

673
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:30.760
especially there's just opportunities. It's kind of like, kind of like great depression sort of

674
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:37.840
stuff. Like, you know, the great depression, there's a, there's a historical statement that

675
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:41.660
there were more millionaires made during the great depression, you know, like, you know, because of

676
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:49.260
the value of things that went down that people just knew that they needed to get a hold of.

677
00:47:49.340 --> 00:47:54.600
And then when the value came back up, they were instantly, instantly wealth. There's this thing,

678
00:47:54.600 --> 00:47:58.940
like, I don't, I don't know if it's necessarily like that kind of like rise and fall of value,

679
00:47:58.980 --> 00:48:06.880
if it's just that simple, but I know there is tremendous, tremendous opportunity, um,

680
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:18.960
in the landscape, in, in the AI field, um, in online, um, the things that seemingly see, seem,

681
00:48:20.900 --> 00:48:27.700
um, uh, like a plot of the enemy, you know, there's still, I think, a, a resource for,

682
00:48:28.300 --> 00:48:32.100
for believers to take a hold of. Wise as serpents, harmless as doves.

683
00:48:32.780 --> 00:48:38.240
And I think, I know there's opportunity. I know there's economic opportunity. It's just in the

684
00:48:38.240 --> 00:48:43.040
most unlikely of places, just like David's story, where it's kind of like buys a storage locker and

685
00:48:43.040 --> 00:48:49.060
finds the gold. I believe there are opportunities like that in the tech space and the job space.

686
00:48:49.060 --> 00:48:54.820
You just have to think outside of the box and you can't limit yourself to, it's gotta be this way,

687
00:48:54.840 --> 00:49:00.400
or it's gotta be a certain, you know, skillset, or it's gotta be a certain thing. Like my son,

688
00:49:01.120 --> 00:49:09.680
who is an industrial designer, has had incredible work experience through his college co-op and then

689
00:49:09.680 --> 00:49:16.120
the job he had after college. I mean, if I were to tell you all the details and the people that

690
00:49:16.120 --> 00:49:24.000
he met and just in his particular field, um, of design and then shoe design and then 3d printing

691
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:31.520
and all of that, um, you know, he, all of his life, since he was a little kid,

692
00:49:31.780 --> 00:49:37.060
he wanted to be a designer. He wanted to be, you know, somebody who imagined something and

693
00:49:37.060 --> 00:49:41.920
designed it and then became, you know, famous for what it, whatever the design was, whether it was

694
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:48.720
a car, whether it was, uh, you know, like, uh, even in Hollywood, he wanted to be like, um, uh,

695
00:49:48.720 --> 00:49:56.420
what do you call it? Um, like a, uh, not set design, but, um, you know, film, film, art,

696
00:49:56.940 --> 00:49:59.200
concept design, that kind of stuff, you know,

697
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.980
And he's like, what's that?

698
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:03.880
Visual development.

699
00:50:04.260 --> 00:50:06.360
Yeah, visual development, all that whole thing.

700
00:50:06.420 --> 00:50:08.260
Like, he just wanted to be like, because he

701
00:50:08.540 --> 00:50:11.760
studied and revered all of those designers and artists.

702
00:50:11.940 --> 00:50:14.100
And all those people are all of his heroes.

703
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:15.820
And he's met some of them.

704
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:16.740
And it's just been incredible.

705
00:50:17.780 --> 00:50:20.100
Well, I've been telling him for two years

706
00:50:20.100 --> 00:50:22.220
that he needs to do an online course,

707
00:50:23.620 --> 00:50:24.760
basically just teach something.

708
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:28.080
He's like, I don't want to do that.

709
00:50:28.080 --> 00:50:29.640
What would I teach?

710
00:50:30.080 --> 00:50:31.120
Like, I don't want to teach.

711
00:50:31.260 --> 00:50:32.220
I want to be design.

712
00:50:32.680 --> 00:50:34.160
I want to be known for design.

713
00:50:34.240 --> 00:50:35.360
I want to make something.

714
00:50:35.540 --> 00:50:37.220
I want to be like, you know, like he just

715
00:50:37.220 --> 00:50:40.640
wants to be this like, I don't know,

716
00:50:40.660 --> 00:50:42.120
whatever he had in his mind.

717
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:49.140
Well, he finally was just coming to the end of his bank account,

718
00:50:49.740 --> 00:50:50.060
literally.

719
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:53.620
And I was just like, what are you going to do?

720
00:50:54.220 --> 00:50:54.720
You know?

721
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:59.560
And he's 29 years old, just got engaged,

722
00:50:59.920 --> 00:51:01.880
going to be married next year.

723
00:51:02.460 --> 00:51:04.640
So it's like serious time for him.

724
00:51:04.780 --> 00:51:06.040
He's like in a relationship.

725
00:51:06.080 --> 00:51:07.100
And she's serious.

726
00:51:07.160 --> 00:51:07.840
And he's serious.

727
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:08.700
And they're serious.

728
00:51:09.240 --> 00:51:12.100
And it's going to be on, right?

729
00:51:12.100 --> 00:51:14.360
And he's like coming to the end of the barrel.

730
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.600
And I know he's incredibly talented.

731
00:51:17.740 --> 00:51:18.900
I know he's incredibly gifted.

732
00:51:18.900 --> 00:51:22.540
I know he's incredibly like whatever.

733
00:51:24.200 --> 00:51:25.740
And it's like, OK, what are you going to do?

734
00:51:26.620 --> 00:51:30.560
He knows very well, and we have before,

735
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:32.900
that he's not going to die.

736
00:51:33.560 --> 00:51:35.840
He's not going to go on the streets.

737
00:51:36.580 --> 00:51:38.020
You know, his family loves him enough

738
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:40.980
that we're all going to help.

739
00:51:41.660 --> 00:51:45.560
None of our children are going to be homeless and poor

740
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:47.040
and starving, OK?

741
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:49.120
They all know that in the back of their mind

742
00:51:49.120 --> 00:51:51.880
just because we've got a good family here.

743
00:51:52.380 --> 00:51:55.560
But at the same time, I'm like, so what are you going to do?

744
00:51:56.160 --> 00:51:56.700
You know?

745
00:51:56.700 --> 00:51:59.400
I'm like, I wasn't like trying to run to the front of the line

746
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:00.580
and go, hey, let me help you.

747
00:52:00.640 --> 00:52:01.500
Let me pay your rent.

748
00:52:01.660 --> 00:52:02.260
Let me do this.

749
00:52:02.820 --> 00:52:05.360
You know, I wasn't trying to offer any of that.

750
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:06.540
I was just like, oh, what are you going to do?

751
00:52:07.500 --> 00:52:08.200
What are you going to do?

752
00:52:08.240 --> 00:52:09.600
I was kind of pressing him.

753
00:52:10.380 --> 00:52:12.680
And he's finally, he goes, you know what?

754
00:52:12.940 --> 00:52:15.720
I think I'm going to design a course.

755
00:52:16.140 --> 00:52:17.260
I'm like, oh, really?

756
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:18.880
Like, I've been telling you that for two years.

757
00:52:18.920 --> 00:52:20.080
I was like, wow, it's incredible.

758
00:52:20.200 --> 00:52:21.140
You're going to design the advanced course?

759
00:52:21.140 --> 00:52:23.920
Yeah, I think I'm really going to put this out there.

760
00:52:23.940 --> 00:52:24.640
I'm going to try to sell it.

761
00:52:24.720 --> 00:52:25.700
I've got some more people.

762
00:52:25.860 --> 00:52:26.240
I've got a lot.

763
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:29.460
You know, he's got an incredible network of people.

764
00:52:30.600 --> 00:52:33.440
So he puts this course together, and he's really talented

765
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:36.980
because he can design stuff in a matter of like a day or two.

766
00:52:37.240 --> 00:52:38.220
Puts this thing together.

767
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:40.380
And something that's been marinating on for a while.

768
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:42.220
Puts it together.

769
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:43.280
He puts it out there.

770
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:46.420
And in five days, less than a week,

771
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:50.580
he sold out his entire, the number of seats

772
00:52:50.580 --> 00:52:52.680
that he had had online.

773
00:52:53.580 --> 00:52:58.000
Brought in $10,000 immediately, like right now, inside

774
00:52:58.000 --> 00:52:58.440
of a week.

775
00:52:59.160 --> 00:52:59.440
Done.

776
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:04.020
Now he's paid his rent, paid all his things, paid off his bills.

777
00:53:04.460 --> 00:53:06.120
He's back on Front Street.

778
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:10.600
And he's going to do it again in November.

779
00:53:10.600 --> 00:53:12.940
Or excuse me, he's going to do it again in December.

780
00:53:14.240 --> 00:53:16.500
And he just broke through.

781
00:53:17.140 --> 00:53:19.040
Now, mind you, part of the story is,

782
00:53:19.080 --> 00:53:21.460
is I've been telling him to do this exact thing.

783
00:53:21.500 --> 00:53:22.600
I mean, I spelled it out.

784
00:53:22.660 --> 00:53:25.360
It's not like I just suggested an idea.

785
00:53:25.420 --> 00:53:28.220
I mean, I literally have been talking to him, like, do this,

786
00:53:28.340 --> 00:53:29.100
do that, blah, blah, blah, blah.

787
00:53:29.420 --> 00:53:30.920
I'm not making this suggestion to you.

788
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:34.620
I'm just saying there's something that's

789
00:53:34.620 --> 00:53:42.740
outside the box, not in that's counterintuitive, maybe even,

790
00:53:43.380 --> 00:53:44.180
or whatever.

791
00:53:44.340 --> 00:53:45.960
And I'm sharing the story with my son

792
00:53:47.340 --> 00:53:49.420
because somebody asked him, said,

793
00:53:49.420 --> 00:53:50.700
why didn't you do this before?

794
00:53:50.900 --> 00:53:52.340
Oh, his brother-in-law.

795
00:53:52.560 --> 00:53:55.540
His brother-in-law was having a conversation.

796
00:53:55.940 --> 00:53:58.600
Jaron, why didn't you do this long time ago?

797
00:53:59.080 --> 00:54:00.920
Mom and dad are talking to you about this.

798
00:54:01.160 --> 00:54:04.240
He goes, well, I think it was, honestly, he goes,

799
00:54:04.240 --> 00:54:05.460
I think it was just kind of pride.

800
00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:08.940
And I was just like, hmm, that's interesting.

801
00:54:10.560 --> 00:54:11.940
So I didn't say anything.

802
00:54:12.540 --> 00:54:14.280
I didn't badger him.

803
00:54:14.540 --> 00:54:15.640
I didn't do anything.

804
00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:20.980
But anyway, I tell that story not as a direct analogy,

805
00:54:21.120 --> 00:54:24.400
but just to know that I just think there's so much

806
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:25.620
opportunity right now.

807
00:54:25.620 --> 00:54:27.260
And there's a season of opportunity,

808
00:54:27.380 --> 00:54:28.420
especially for believers.

809
00:54:29.020 --> 00:54:31.100
And it still could be in the field.

810
00:54:31.180 --> 00:54:33.480
It could still be in the area.

811
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:35.100
I just think there's new opportunities.

812
00:54:35.460 --> 00:54:36.080
There's exceptions.

813
00:54:36.560 --> 00:54:37.240
Favor isn't fair.

814
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:41.620
It's just like the child of God gets the job

815
00:54:41.620 --> 00:54:42.960
and somebody else doesn't.

816
00:54:43.560 --> 00:54:45.500
And I believe it's the season for that.

817
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.020
I believe there's a lot of prophetic utterances

818
00:54:49.680 --> 00:54:53.420
that especially where the siege is over.

819
00:54:53.460 --> 00:54:55.600
That was a word that was a couple of weeks ago

820
00:54:55.600 --> 00:54:56.700
on Supernatural Saturday.

821
00:54:57.160 --> 00:54:58.060
Yeah, no, I heard that.

822
00:54:58.080 --> 00:54:59.700
And I repeat that the whole time.

823
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.620
Yeah. I mean, I will say that I did start working on a independent animated feature.

824
00:55:05.700 --> 00:55:08.520
I love it. When they interviewed me, they went through everything.

825
00:55:08.600 --> 00:55:09.760
You know, you're perfect. You're perfect.

826
00:55:09.900 --> 00:55:12.380
We don't have any money in the budget to pay you. Is that OK?

827
00:55:13.040 --> 00:55:17.640
And I said, yeah, I said, let's do it, because at least I have something

828
00:55:17.640 --> 00:55:20.860
passionate about when I'm going through six other jobs.

829
00:55:21.300 --> 00:55:24.200
Yeah. Even though I'm doing it for free, at least, you know,

830
00:55:24.200 --> 00:55:27.540
and we'll see what happens in film festivals when it's done and all that.

831
00:55:27.680 --> 00:55:29.280
You never know. Yeah.

832
00:55:30.100 --> 00:55:32.740
Nobody knows, doesn't even know you weren't paid for it.

833
00:55:32.940 --> 00:55:34.620
It's a job. Yeah, exactly.

834
00:55:35.040 --> 00:55:38.020
I mean, unfortunately, you know, you talk to other people and so you don't

835
00:55:38.140 --> 00:55:41.960
you know, I don't tell too many people that and family or my daughter,

836
00:55:42.200 --> 00:55:44.560
you know, my grown daughters don't really respect that.

837
00:55:44.980 --> 00:55:47.680
And if there's no paycheck involved, what's the point?

838
00:55:49.140 --> 00:55:51.480
Yeah. But I tell you what, yeah, no, no, no.

839
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:54.360
Those are the kind of things that I that God is doing.

840
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:55.860
We see it over and over again.

841
00:55:55.860 --> 00:56:00.580
So I'm just saying all that to say that God is in those extra things.

842
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:04.660
God, it's in those things that are like, you know, on the fringe type stuff.

843
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:07.040
So, yeah, be paying attention to that there.

844
00:56:07.220 --> 00:56:09.420
So I hope there's a lot of encouragement there.

845
00:56:09.420 --> 00:56:11.100
Sounds like there is. Yeah. Yeah.

846
00:56:11.100 --> 00:56:14.000
And I'm listening to the tapes and I'm going through a little bit

847
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:18.100
of the core memories and everything that the other woman talked about.

848
00:56:19.500 --> 00:56:20.820
That's good. That's good.

849
00:56:20.820 --> 00:56:23.020
Yeah. That's with Christine was.

850
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:25.160
Yeah. If you guys haven't seen that.

851
00:56:25.160 --> 00:56:28.480
Check that out a couple of weeks ago from Christine Sullivan.

852
00:56:28.660 --> 00:56:30.280
That was a great thing.

853
00:56:30.300 --> 00:56:31.400
I'm going to have her on again.

854
00:56:31.980 --> 00:56:34.140
And I think she's going to do some things in our program.

855
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:35.660
So it's going to be good.

856
00:56:35.820 --> 00:56:38.200
I can't believe she's single. That shocks me.

857
00:56:38.580 --> 00:56:39.740
Yeah, she is.

858
00:56:40.680 --> 00:56:43.080
She is saying that blew my mind.

859
00:56:43.080 --> 00:56:45.380
I was like, how is someone like that single anyways?

860
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:51.320
Yeah. And I'll just leave that where it is right there on the table, guys.

861
00:56:51.380 --> 00:56:53.780
I will just leave it right there.

862
00:56:53.780 --> 00:56:56.400
It did. Yes, sir.

863
00:56:56.400 --> 00:57:00.300
I'm actually going like I'm seriously looking at least sometime this month.

864
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:01.540
I might be a little bit later in the month,

865
00:57:01.720 --> 00:57:05.900
but going through her coaching of your version with basically the hard work

866
00:57:05.900 --> 00:57:09.080
with you and Jackie as opposed to her life coach program,

867
00:57:09.160 --> 00:57:13.160
which is basically reverse engineering like we want in five years back to now,

868
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.860
which is our life coach size, which is a different program.

869
00:57:16.740 --> 00:57:18.620
OK, so, yeah, that's awesome.

870
00:57:19.100 --> 00:57:20.640
I wish you well on that, man.

871
00:57:20.640 --> 00:57:21.860
I went through it with her.

872
00:57:21.860 --> 00:57:25.840
I did some I I I probably wasn't the best student

873
00:57:26.180 --> 00:57:27.980
because I was distracted a lot.

874
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:31.220
But I tell you what, I did have some some major breakthroughs

875
00:57:31.660 --> 00:57:34.860
during during those sessions, and she's great.

876
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:35.640
She's incredible.

877
00:57:37.240 --> 00:57:38.240
So I would.

878
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:41.000
Thank you. Yeah.

879
00:57:41.040 --> 00:57:44.660
Just real quick with me, I know we got to end the call here, but like

880
00:57:45.340 --> 00:57:47.000
it's kind of been a mix for me.

881
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:50.160
Like I had an unexpected blessing, like a 200 plus dollar check

882
00:57:50.160 --> 00:57:52.180
from my insurance company because they were charging me

883
00:57:52.180 --> 00:57:56.040
and something with a billing error that I got within the last couple of weeks.

884
00:57:56.380 --> 00:57:59.380
And then but then at the same same time, I'm struggling with.

885
00:58:00.120 --> 00:58:03.260
I really missed not being able to be with you guys in Texas,

886
00:58:03.260 --> 00:58:05.640
but I realized it's for the better in the long run

887
00:58:05.640 --> 00:58:07.880
because I'm still like really struggling financially.

888
00:58:08.560 --> 00:58:12.220
Yeah. And and it's just my nervous system is just kind of shot.

889
00:58:12.680 --> 00:58:15.500
So it's like there's all these opportunities out here.

890
00:58:15.500 --> 00:58:16.560
I want to start my own business.

891
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:17.900
I mean, there's so many opportunities.

892
00:58:17.900 --> 00:58:18.680
There's A.I.

893
00:58:19.140 --> 00:58:22.500
There's I mean, baby boomers are selling their successful businesses

894
00:58:22.500 --> 00:58:26.580
or at least property businesses like crazy, like all these things I want to do.

895
00:58:26.640 --> 00:58:28.420
But my nervous system is so shot.

896
00:58:28.420 --> 00:58:29.640
I can't go forward with that.

897
00:58:29.640 --> 00:58:32.680
That's like why I'm trying to like go forward with this stuff with Christine.

898
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:37.580
OK. OK. I could see that could be really helpful for you.

899
00:58:37.620 --> 00:58:38.560
I could see that.

900
00:58:38.660 --> 00:58:41.320
I see that there's a breakthrough like in that

901
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:43.440
in that work that you're going to do with her.

902
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:46.280
I really I really encourage you.

903
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:50.680
But that's that's going to be some some real strong help for you.

904
00:58:52.300 --> 00:58:54.940
Yeah. So I'm glad that you're doing that.

905
00:58:54.980 --> 00:58:57.380
And yeah, we did miss you in Texas.

906
00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:01.940
And but there's some.

907
00:59:04.040 --> 00:59:07.800
Yeah, I just felt it wasn't the best timing just because I mean,

908
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:10.480
I'm struggling so bad financially, it would have made me look like a

909
00:59:10.700 --> 00:59:14.760
I don't know, not very desirable, but we certain women, you know what I mean?

910
00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:16.440
It's OK. Yeah, I get it.

911
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:17.320
Let's be honest.

912
00:59:17.860 --> 00:59:20.580
How much did you say your insurance gave you back?

913
00:59:21.500 --> 00:59:24.120
Like two hundred twenty dollars, because somebody made a billion.

914
00:59:25.060 --> 00:59:27.120
Oh, wow. OK. Yeah.

915
00:59:27.180 --> 00:59:27.940
Well, praise God.

916
00:59:28.120 --> 00:59:29.640
We're looking for returns back.

917
00:59:29.780 --> 00:59:32.680
We got a big one and a couple of friends of ours got some big ones.

918
00:59:32.680 --> 00:59:36.300
I'm looking for just things coming out of the blue like that even.

919
00:59:36.700 --> 00:59:40.000
I mean, I'm not like a big proponent of like, you know, like.

920
00:59:41.100 --> 00:59:43.100
Fake checks in the mail, but I'm just telling you what,

921
00:59:43.100 --> 00:59:46.700
like there's there's some things happening that God is restoring back to people.

922
00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:49.480
And it's just it's astounding.

923
00:59:49.780 --> 00:59:53.240
It's just I hear it every day, several times a day.

924
00:59:53.700 --> 00:59:57.180
So I know that the Lord is working on behalf of his people.

925
00:59:58.440 --> 00:59:59.980
So just be hopeful and be encouraged.

926
01:00:00.680 --> 01:00:03.000
All right, guys, we're past the hour.

927
01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:03.800
God bless you.

928
01:00:03.980 --> 01:00:05.060
Have a great, great week.

929
01:00:06.180 --> 01:00:06.980
Great discussion.

930
01:00:07.180 --> 01:00:10.460
Thanks you all for sharing and we'll talk soon.

931
01:00:10.980 --> 01:00:11.220
Bye, David.

932
01:00:11.420 --> 01:00:12.020
Bye, guys.

933
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:12.940
Bye, y'all.

934
01:00:13.560 --> 01:00:14.040
Bye-bye.

935
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:15.380
Bye, good night.