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So, good evening. This is Monday, November 17th, 2025. And this is Men's Heart Check-in.

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So how y'all doing? Like, you know, breakthrough, any breakthroughs for you guys?

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I'm still working through the book. Yeah, this is my fourth.

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So where are you at the book?

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I guess I'm going through the forgiveness this week. Yeah, that's a big one. How's that going for you?

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Yeah, it's, um, you know, there's a couple of things I've thought about in the past week in terms of the whole forgiveness thing and trauma and stuff.

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And I would say that, you know, part of my trauma, I guess, comes through just my growing up and kind of being the black sheep in my family type feeling and never measuring up to the what I felt my father, mother wanted of me and kind of feeling unworthy of things.

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Right. So I had that kind of undercurrent in my life and even into my career and things.

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So one of the questions here was, have you ever been or are you now stuck in a victim mode? And what was the trauma you kept rehashing over and over?

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So thing happened to me was during my career, I had worked with the company for 13 years and 12 of those years, I was with one boss and we had a very good relationship.

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He was a supporter of me throughout. And but there came a point where there was a contentious issue between our group and another group.

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And at the same time, what was happening was it was going through the financial crisis of 2008, 2009 timeframe, and a lot of companies were going through layoffs and having financial stress and the housing market collapsed.

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And our company was was not immune to that. And there was all this stuff talking about layoffs coming up. And so I was in a situation where this contentious group thing was going on.

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And it was also right on a layoff at the time when people get annual reviews and cycles going and such. And like I said, I worked for this guy for 12 years and never had a poor performance rating out of him, let alone just an average with him.

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And so I was down to go through this conversation with my review with him. And he kind of comes back, basically tells me, you know, you got the rate, you basically average. And I said, Joe, this is like, you know, with you 12 years, it's the first time I've ever got an average from you.

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And he goes, yeah, I know, but it's out of my control. And I said, what do you mean, it's out of your control? And he said, well, we did this thing they call these 360s, where your boss reviews you, but you also have to circulate these kind of surveys to people who you work with, and for them to give you feedback as well.

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So he said, you know, I can't, I can't give you anything higher than average, because of the feedback I got from particularly one person in particular, this guy, his name was Rod. And I said, I worked with this guy all year long, and we did some good stuff together. And I was literally kind of surprised by that, like, why that would be. He goes, well, I can't change the review because of that.

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And I said, well, this is kind of a tricky time, because we have layoffs coming up. And, you know, this put me in kind of a little more precarious situation, I'd be a lot more comfortable with what I historically got from you. And he said, yeah, I know, but it's beyond my control. I can't change, I can't, with that review, with that write up, I can't do it.

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So anyway, I saw this guy, Rod, and I called my office. And I said, hey, Rod, I'm really kind of taken aback. You know, Joe tells me about this review you gave me. And I said, we've worked for a year together on this thing. I thought we had a good thing going. And he's like, you know, looked at me, he goes, I've been losing sleep on this for nights, for a week on this.

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And I said, I've talked internally, I've talked to my wife, what do you think I should do? And he's like, Rod, I don't know what you're talking about. Back up and start, what are you talking about here? Tell me what's going on. So he worked for this woman, who also worked for this other fellow who was very senior in the company, but he was also overseeing this other contentious area that we had this kind of conflict going on, political conflict internally within the company.

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It was a large company. And so I said, okay, so what, Rod, why would you write what you wrote? And he basically said, that wasn't what I wrote first. I said, what do you mean wasn't right? First, I wrote a good review.

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you, on you. And I have to run past my boss. And she says, it's got to be more negative.

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And you need to write it down and make it less positive. And he goes, I'm not comfortable doing

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that. So he wrote it down. But he gave it back to work. He said, second time, she said, it's not

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negative enough. You need to make it negative. And so he said, I wrote it again bad. And I took it

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to another level. I gave it to her and she told me, that's still not low enough. You got to make

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it worse. You got to make it worse. And he said, that's all I'm doing. I'm not going to put, I'm

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not going to go any further with this. And if Bob asked me about it, I'm going to tell him what's

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going on. So I ended up circling back and the, I go to my boss and I said, look, Joe, I just had

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this conversation with Rod. He's telling me he was, that negative review, he was told to do it by his

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boss. And he says, so let me handle this with, with her name was Diana. So he goes up and speaks to

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Diana. He said, let me handle it. He starts handling it. Meanwhile, those is all the timing

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of all this is a very narrow window now because the name for layoffs are supposed to be put,

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submitted like by the end of this week. So he started telling me he's going to handle it.

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He's telling me like on Thursday, don't worry about it. You know, I've got this, I got this.

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And I'm like, okay, I'm going to trust this. Right. Well, I'm sorry. Sure. It comes out that

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this woman, her boss was the one above her was forcing this issue, take it out on me.

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So when it came time for the layoff names to be submitted, my name was put on the list by her

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boss. So comes to following Monday when I thought it was going to be okay. I ended up finding out

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I got laid off all that because of this political infighting that was happening.

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So, you know, it was a situation where one, it just takes me back to my youth and my feeling

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in my home, the, the black sheep, the unworthy kid. And I'm sitting there now in this corporate

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world, starting to feel the same thing on the black sheep here. I'm the one who's unworthy.

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I'm the one who's going to be now. I was laid off out of this right now. I've talked to people

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afterwards and who knew some of the story. And this guy, Rod, who told me, you know,

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what was going on, he said, look, if you want to take it to HR, I'll go with you.

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And I was at that point, I was like, well, I don't want to put you in a situation where you're going

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to lose your job. So let me at the time, I was still thinking I was going to be okay. If I left

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my boss, I was told subsequently, it was like my boss, the guy had worked for 12 years,

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tried, but didn't go out as far as he could have to back me and try to fight this and kept me.

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So again, I was 13 years there. Suddenly I was laid off the same time I was going through

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my divorce at the same time.

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Oh, so it's a double whammy. And all of that's tying into your childhood wounds,

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which are exacerbated. And, you know, it's kind of, I mean, you guys like, well,

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I only have two, both David's here. So, you know, but, but, you know,

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Not only. Come on, man.

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I'm sorry. Like, like, it's not, we have, well, so I apologize. But like, have you,

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have you noticed that your childhood wounds come out?

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On behalf of all the Davids, I forgive you.

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Yeah. Thank you guys. Have you found that? Because I found the same thing, Bob.

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Like when things at work trigger, like there's a trigger to my childhood, right? A lot of like

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my boss right now is tap dancing on that wound, right? Have you guys felt that way as well?

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Or you've seen where it tied into your childhood at work?

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Earlier in my career, because, you know, I remember even like

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going through college, I had a lot of resentment towards my father. And, you know, I graduated

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with honors out of college and my father had thought, you know, he questioned whether they're

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going to graduate at all. So part of my motivation to succeed in college was to prove him wrong.

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I'm not the idiot you think I am. I'm going to do well on my own. I'm taking my responsibility

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for myself. I'm going to prove you wrong. So my anger was my motivation towards him to

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motivate me to succeed in college.

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And I later found myself in my workplace needing to be angry at a situation

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to motivate me to feel the drive to go prove myself.

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Yeah, because you never were allowed to.

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Just be OK and with whatever you were, you had to you had to, you know,

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and I've been in a similar situation, I find myself in that a lot of ways,

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you know, and that works in marriage, in relationships as well.

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Like, you know, in marriage and this and that.

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You're like, you know, you know, it's the it's the perpetual treadmill.

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Yeah, I'm not good enough, so I have to

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produce or like if I just produce enough, maybe I'll be OK or, you know, I'm

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and so so it's really good that you're going

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through the hard work because I mean, that's and that's bringing all that stuff

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up because, man, getting free of that's huge.

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But, you know, once you get free of that.

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Yeah, and so that the whole thing was

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to forgiveness was to part the names of the people where the

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this more senior person was a guy named Don Avant.

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The other person was a woman named Diane.

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I should probably send out the last name

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was Don, Diana and Rod, and I kept thinking these are names I hold.

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I try to think I was letting go of the anger towards the situation and saying,

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God, I know you're going to the vengeance is yours, right?

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They'll come a time they're going to stand before you and they're going to see

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themselves and to explain themselves to you as to why they did what they did

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against me, because there were repercussions to me.

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Now I'm out of work.

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I have to worry.

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I have three kids I'm taking, you know, trying to raise.

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I'm going through a divorce at the same time.

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The odd thing here was also not the odd

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was this was a time when I started returning to my faith.

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I was raised Catholic.

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I left it.

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In fact, it was my my marriage failing was

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what kind of motivated me to go back to the Bible because I felt like everything

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we tried, everything I tried to save this marriage was failing.

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And I said, God, my last resort, right?

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If you can raise a debt, help me resurrect my marriage situation.

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Right.

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And a lot of times it's it's not I mean, I don't know about you guys.

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It's when actually for me it was when

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everything was going good and I realized there was nothing.

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That was a value or like, you know, you know, he who dies with the most toys wins

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and then you get all the toys and you realize, like, twice,

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they don't feel that God's space hole in your in your heart.

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Right. But, you know, and it sounds like it was a rough season, but I mean,

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it was a rough season, but it drove you back to what to get back to the basics.

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And and one of the keys to forgiveness,

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and I'm not quite I'm pretty sure that it's been a while since I've done the

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artwork, so forgive me. Right.

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You know, but one of the keys is actually blessing those who have hurt you.

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And so it's one thing to say, you know, Lord, I forgive them.

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I release them.

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But it's like the next step is to, hey, Lord, I just pray that you bless,

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you know, X, Y, Z and and and you do it until you can mean it.

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So like all

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and, you know, when you have healed like this last two weeks ago, my ex called

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text me, hey, don't send any support checks because

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my account got hacked and they took everything and I got sad.

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Right. You know, and like and I was really

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sad for her because, like, I'm like, that really sucks.

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And I knew that I and I knew that I was free.

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Right. Because all that forgiveness and praying

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blessing changed my heart to actually have compassion and be sad when

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she's having a hard time.

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Yeah. And so and you guys, I'm an I'm an expert and I have a Ph.D.

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in forgiveness. I've had to forgive so much stuff.

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So I just encourage you that this process works when you can

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bless them and pray for them and actually mean it.

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That's unraveling your heart and it's setting you free.

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You know,

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forgiveness is like unforgiveness is like

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drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.

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Right. You know.

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Yeah. So I'm proud of you.

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That's really good. You know, it sounds like

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it's it's not a fun process, but you're going to get freedom and and make sure

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that in this whole and everyone, everybody who listens to this and everybody who's

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on right now, make sure that you make sure to forgive this person to the person

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that you're looking at in the mirror, I can tell you, I've had to forgive some

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heinous, crazy things, but the hardest person bar none to forgive

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was this guy right here, right, because, you know, I remember going

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into a counseling session and they're like, OK, so we're showing forgiveness.

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I'm like, they're like, they're like, they're like, like, like your dad,

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your mom or this or that.

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And I'm like.

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Been there done that got the t-shirt, you know

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Like I've been doing 20 years on this and then the next one was like, how about you?

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And I'm like, ooh, wait, we don't have to forgive me because I you know, we can't do that

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Yeah, yeah

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so breakthroughs

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Anybody else have breakthroughs?

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Yeah, sorry

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Go right sir. I was sorting my candy when I get anxious. I have to I have to sort things

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I'm just I'm weird that way so I like bought a bunch of candy and I was like

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Yeah, I'm a fidget or Bob I just want to say I'm so proud of you you had me tearing up and

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that was really lovely that share and

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Yeah, I can just like see I mean, I don't know you well

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But like just seeing how the Lord is moving you and in your life

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I'm excited for you man

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And I'm excited for not just you but your kids your grandchildren like this legacy that God's building in you now

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I think is just gonna be pouring out. Like I just see this and permission is to share this Mike. Is that okay?

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but I

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just see this like golden like

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Picture just being poured out and I think like what God is doing in you is not just gonna reap fruit for your future

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Relationships, but like I mean like a romantic relation, but I think like for your kids for your family like yeah

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I'm so proud of you. It's just been so cool. Just seeing your journey. And yeah, thanks for sharing

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and that that's a really good picture of like what like, you know, like

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It isn't just about

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Doing the heart work for you. I mean, it's good. It's good or it's not just about one area

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I mean like it affects everything there's there's it brings freedom in every area and every relationship and it and it's not just about

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You know dating right? Yeah, cuz this is kind of our context here is, you know getting having better relationships

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But yeah, David, you're right like that that picture pouring out all that all the all just like the cleansing from all that stuff

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That's just been dogging. You will set everybody in your family free and you're free to just enjoy things. It's amazing

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So, dude, how I know you

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You've been going through some interesting things any anything that you're excited about coming up. Mr. Right? Sorry, you know since you're yeah

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you know, I

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I'm in a good season

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I'm in a season where I have to liquidate my assets and that's what the Lord's really been telling me

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So I'm creating a plan like okay

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got to sell the Rolex's got to sell the Tag Heuer's got to sell the watch collection and

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It's and I'm realizing that like I have been storing up my treasure on earth

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Like this stuff has such a hold on me and I'm like, it's just a piece of gold in a box

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Like get rid of it, you know, like God gave me this and now it's time to just get rid of it

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You know the timings, right? So I'm I made a business plan this week of like, okay, how would we liquidate our assets like?

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You know, I have a whole sea container. I mean I was trying to do a business of something can just to be honest

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Now it's not full of junk

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right, but it's filled with collectibles worth some worth a thousand to like

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Time to get rid of it all stop hoarding

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and I would say I'm not hoarding while I'm collecting but it's like

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To what cost I have a whole sea container on my property

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Yeah, so time to get rid of that stuff time to sell the art

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unfortunately, that's gonna be the hardest that'll take about eight months, but

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Anyways, that's really hard for me

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Emotionally, I never thought the heart work would change me. I just thought oh this will get me a wife

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Anything change me. I didn't think it would change my mom and dad. I didn't think it would change my best friends

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Sorry, I didn't think it would change

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the people I really really really care about

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I didn't think it would have an impact. I didn't I limited God to this Oh Holy Spirit. You can have this

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You know, I'm just being honest here like no, I love it you're doing great like my dreams and like I

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Was holding on to dreams Mike that were bad dreams

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They were from the enemy

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He's an equal opportunity destroyer and he'll you know, and I'm proud of you, dude

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like that's really what you're doing is really hard like, you know, like the culling season like the I

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Mean, I've had that season and you don't realize how attached to stuff you get you're like, yeah

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I don't have any idolatry in my life and then you're like, he's like get rid of it and I'm like

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No, you're like, whoa. Where'd that come from?

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Right, you know, so I'm super proud of you, you know, and that's hard, you know, but yeah.

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Well, the amazing part is I see how it flows out of you to these other people

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who are also being impacted. It's like you don't realize, like, as you're changing,

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other people are changing also. And it's kind of an amazing thing, you know.

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she's now going to church every Sunday. I can hear it through the floorboards. She's

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worshiping God, you know, and her daughter is like, I love Jesus so much. She said,

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Mommy, do you love Jesus? And that's because I did the heartwork. I mean, Mike, you know the

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story. David knows the story. Bob, I don't think you heard the story. But, you know, within like

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two or three weeks of doing the heartwork, my neighbor was like, hey, you've changed.

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What changed? And I said, I told her about the course. And she said, no, no, it's not that.

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God changed you. I want to be changed. I'm going to accept Jesus. She said, I don't want you to

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pray the prayer. I'm just going to do it. And she just was like, I'm a Christian now. Give me a

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Bible. I said, well, she goes, take me to church. Introduce me to all your people. She said, I'm a

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single mom and I'm not going to walk this alone. And you're going to walk with me because you're

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my neighbor. And I said, okay. That was like three weeks in. Now she is saving up to do the

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heartwork. For us as Canadians, it cost me about a thousand bucks to pay for this all because our

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dollars, whatever, not very good. But I had a, I actually, my mentor in July,

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him and I were asking questions and I said, you know, I had broken up with Phoebe and it didn't

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end well. I overreacted and Phoebe wanted me to write out everything that I was upset about. I did.

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That was a bad idea. And then Phoebe and I had our last call and she just said, I'm just going

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to ask you some questions, Dave, and I don't want you to answer them. I just want you to write them

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down. And I didn't have the answer. None of my parents did. And my parents said, you know,

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it's time to start investing in something that will develop you to not just live in fear,

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but to walk in the freedom that Jesus has for you. She said, you need to find, my mom said,

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you need to find a community outside of your little world that doesn't, she said, people

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praise you, that doesn't praise you, that'll call you on your crap and that you can actually walk

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in the obedience of scripture. She said, because the problem is you win everyone over and then

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they don't call you out on crap. And I was like, fair enough. And so I joined the course. I called

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my mentor crying and he said, stop crying. I'm paying for the course. And he said, you know,

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yeah. And he said, if you need more counseling, we pay for it. He said, you know, so if they,

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if they say, Hey, you need coaching, we're going to pay for coaching. And he said, and even if that

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girl tries to say something to you, blah, blah, blah, he says, you just hire a coach in that

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program and say, I'm working on it and they won't kick you out. Cause I was afraid that she would,

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you know, feel like exposing me or something. Anyways, I'm talking too much today, but

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all this to say. Well, no, like I, your process, I think is important. Like, you know,

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like each, okay, you guys, just so you know, right. I mean, like, I, you know, if they want to,

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if I get called on it, I want to let you guys see each other's journey. Right. Like, you know,

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cause Bob, you shared part of your journey, David, you're sharing part, Mr. Wright, I got you,

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David. Sorry, David. You know, like, you know, part of your, you're sharing your journey and

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the whole point of this is that we're walking this together and David, you may share, you may

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share something that helps Bob or the other David or whoever's watching. Right. And that's the whole

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point is iron sharpening iron. And like you say, it's really easy to when you're what is the word

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gregarious, right. You can come up to people and be their friend. Right. And then never be called

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for anything. Right. Because everybody just likes you because you're likable, you know,

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and who wants to, who wants to cut, but you, but you know, iron sharpens iron. You need somebody

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who's willing to, to like grind you to, you know, like sharpen that stone. And it's amazing. Like

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your, your testimony of your neighbor, like, like, you know, it's a, it's an immediate change. And

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Bob, like, you know, you can see that, Hey, like doing the heartwork, David had a massive immediate

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change. Right. I had a massive immediate change, you know, and I'd been doing counseling for a

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long time. Right. Or, you know, and so I, I had something that had me hung up and Jackie's book,

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Jackie's books help set me free from that. Right. And so I just, I just want to honor what you guys

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are doing in that, you know, like, and I just appreciate your vulnerability and sharing your

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stuff. Cause that's not normal for dudes. Right. And so, so, you know, so that's kind of the,

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my, my methodology.

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of why I'm doing what I'm doing, and we don't have a huge group here today, so it's not

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like we're losing somebody else speaking, right, you know, because ordinarily I'd want

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everybody to get in, but there's only four of us.

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It's actually kind of nice.

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We can get a little deeper and have a little more freedom.

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But yeah, you know, hard work matters, you guys.

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Like, this week, I guess, Mr. Henshaw, sorry, I tried to keep the Davids, you know, but

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Mr. Henshaw, how are you doing?

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Any breakthroughs in your life?

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It's been extremely rough lately.

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I've been, like, serious spiritual attacks, but I realize things are in a different season

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now.

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Last season was really hard to deal with my mom.

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She's been in and out of the hospital four times this year already, and for corrective

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surgery, emergency surgery, we're two of the four times, and I'm realizing now God's giving

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me, like, a special grace just to connect with her more, and I really need to reach

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out to her at least a phone call every day, because she's just at that age now, but not

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related to that so much is I've found breakthrough lately in just relating to remaining in a

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group like this and not running away from it, because I kind of, I guess, like, you

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know, until I get more healed, I'm kind of a fearful avoidance.

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I go back and forth more so than ever, but between anxious and avoidant.

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the longer you just keep waiting around and spinning your wheels, the colder your heart's

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going to get if you're not being active and you're being, like, passive.

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I've noticed that, and I've also noticed lately that I'm more open to a relationship than

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before because it has to do with trust.

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Like, if you don't trust, like, that kind of relationship at all, then if you have no

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trust, you're not going to respect it.

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And if you're not going to respect it, then you're going to, like, avoid it, rebel against

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it, stay away from it, et cetera.

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So, yeah, my I mean, my experience was like I was in a really good job.

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I had major favor there.

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But the problem was I got against myself.

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I was in a toxic situation ship and it got so bad that on the final day I basically got

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fired because, like, I just exploded like a volcano.

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I you know, you can argue I probably would have left that day anyway, but the right way

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would have been like just heading over my scan ID card and saying this is going to work

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was good working with you guys.

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See you later.

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You know, instead of exploding, which basically slammed the door and blacklisted me

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forever from going back to that company, you know, because of the modern, you know, HR

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departments, how they are with a corporation like that.

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But yeah, but yeah, it's just and then it's been like a year of.

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Not recently, but like the first first year after losing that job was just I mean, the

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first month or so was fine because I had another backup job to fall out on, but then I

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got I got burned out on that once twenty twenty five hit.

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Because twenty twenty five was a hard year.

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Twenty twenty five was like to me was like a rebuilding year.

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So they go all the way down to the foundation, rebuild the parts of the foundation

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that were all, you know, jacked up, so to speak, you know, compared to this year, which

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is like a very big price prosperity and breakthrough year, a lot of provision coming

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through right now since like the end of September with the turn of the new year, you

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know, if you follow the lunar calendar, but with, you know, the Hebrew calendar, which

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is lunar compared to the which is solar.

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Well, I'm really proud of you, too, because like the avoided thing is like you really

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you've stayed in it. I mean, you know, people are really like, you know, and I wouldn't

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be super critical of yourself because I mean, you've been here.

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I mean, you've been open to things.

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I've been proud of you for stretching.

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I've watched you be like taffy on the screen sometimes.

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Right. You know, and I was like, man, he's letting himself be stretched.

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And I'm just super proud of you, like that you're still around and you're still

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showing up. Right.

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And I'm glad you're getting the breakthrough.

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That's amazing. Right.

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And like I said, keep it up, keep it the hard work, keep it up.

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One of the biggest things was the latest call.

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like god's mercy is so huge it just boggles my mind like the latest call for the uh what was it

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the spotlight night um renee forgot to record it and basically i was doing really horrible that

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night but i showed up anyway and i kind of made a fool of myself at least i think i did and it's

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kind of god's grace that she forgot to record it because otherwise you know it would have just been

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too much just because um i wasn't as honest as i needed to be like i just i told them i didn't

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want to be on camera because my my my you know it's poor lighting and that but that's only part

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of it the other part of it is just i was just feeling so rotten i didn't even want to be on

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camera but you know i didn't want to say that you know and it's just be like yeah i don't like being

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dishonest like that you know so but well you were where you were at and yeah and like independent

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but the fact that you even showed up exactly you showed right like like yeah like you showed up you

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weren't you weren't you didn't have your a game b game or maybe you're on even if you're on your z

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game right you at least came to the table i mean that's amazing right yeah most people would have

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would have mailed it in right and so so have a little um grace on yourself because you did great

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yeah and and you know david i i felt a little bad because i was pushing you a little hard that night

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i was like david henshaw's in the chat and she's like is there anyone that like renee's like in

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that 50 to 60 or 40 range and i was like david hen and so i was pushing it a little strong i'm

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and and i must have tagged you like six times and i was playing i was like come on lord like

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got your wingman baby i was there and and david you didn't come across at all and i don't know

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if you remember the chat people were like oh turn your camera on david like you're an attractive man

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not just physically but i think like i just want to build into you my friend like the things that

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god's been doing in you and who you are is attractive like you listen to people you are

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showing up the fact that you show up to everything man like there are so many women in this community

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who i'm sure would be like oh like you know how like you said to renee like oh there's a couple

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women i'm interested i'm not being surprised but i'm sure there's a couple women who are like

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oh i want to know about this mystery man who is david in pennsylvania you know what i mean like

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you're a great man man so just know that thank you appreciate it and just keep showing up dude i'm

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i mean like yeah you're doing i mean like yeah yeah you you really gotta let go of all the past

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like i had i had some amazing opportunities in college but i felt like i wasn't ready for a

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serious relationship then like i mean they would have been like you know really good really good

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people to marry back then but you know i just wasn't there like being you know being like 19

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i was still too young and i mean from a physical perspective like a guy's brain

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isn't even really fully developed until he's like 25 yeah so so yeah i thought i had everything

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together bro i i was invincible i knew everything it was great and then i hit like 26 and realized

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that maybe i'm not as good not doing as good as i thought i was you know like you know you know um

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but but you know you guys you're showing up and i just want to honor you guys for showing up and

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um and like and just sharing your stuff you know we want to talk about breakthroughs and then what

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we miss right like you know forgiving forgiving people's heart like doing the forgiveness is one

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of the heart like i've done a lot of things in my life forgiving people was the hardest thing

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i've done i think ever you know like myself being the hardest of the people that i had to forgive

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but like what i did and i showed up and i got free right like you know the step you do the

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affects your your kids your grandkids your everybody around me your neighbors right you

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know um and so um so one of the things um actually i should take notes on this so what do you guys

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want to see um for 20 like in this group like in this in last year single uh what do you what

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would you like to see in 2026 like you know like like is there stuff that you still want to see

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more of less of can we have just a little what um what your favorite maybe what your favorite

395
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:34.260
parts or what you would what you would like to see from from this program oh you're saying like

396
00:34:34.260 --> 00:34:41.560
what it offers you mean basically yeah like like what improvement okay yeah like what improvements

397
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:47.880
would you like to see or what um like would you like more spotlights more like what like what

398
00:34:47.940 --> 00:34:52.739
has been the thing come on david we could we could spot you like every week bro if we can you

399
00:34:52.739 --> 00:34:59.920
just get it down you know like that you know uh but no i just the other one i was talking about

400
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.420
You receive it. I'm not taking it from you, brother.

401
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.620
We're like, we're getting this dude hitched and it's, it's, it's, it's 50.

402
00:35:08.660 --> 00:35:10.720
If it's good, it takes 52 weeks.

403
00:35:11.080 --> 00:35:15.580
I really felt like, I just want to share this. It's, it's really like,

404
00:35:15.580 --> 00:35:18.540
the enemy's really been trying to hit me hard to like, forget about this.

405
00:35:18.580 --> 00:35:20.560
But when like soon after I joined at this program,

406
00:35:20.640 --> 00:35:23.020
which was basically about a year ago, um,

407
00:35:23.020 --> 00:35:25.980
I really felt like God was going to give you my 13 years back.

408
00:35:26.420 --> 00:35:28.880
And I'll explain what that means. It's like,

409
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:34.060
when I, um, and I don't know,

410
00:35:34.140 --> 00:35:39.160
he's blessed me with like, I'm not trying to brag or toot my own horn,

411
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:43.800
but I feel like he's blessed me with looking decently younger than my actual

412
00:35:43.940 --> 00:35:49.240
age. But the, um, when I was 37,

413
00:35:49.420 --> 00:35:53.700
well, when I turned 38, only three days later, my dad passed away. So,

414
00:35:54.420 --> 00:35:57.960
and, and last year, so that it's basically like a 13 year thing.

415
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:01.580
So it's like, um, I'm,

416
00:36:01.580 --> 00:36:06.700
I'm just super thankful what God has given me. And right now it's just,

417
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:11.160
I feel like I need to rebuild some key relationships that kind of fall apart

418
00:36:11.740 --> 00:36:14.240
because I was in a place where I couldn't do anything about it.

419
00:36:14.240 --> 00:36:16.340
Cause I was falling apart and you know,

420
00:36:16.420 --> 00:36:21.020
it didn't really matter too much if other people were, you know,

421
00:36:21.520 --> 00:36:23.560
were good people or not,

422
00:36:23.560 --> 00:36:28.440
because like I came to a point where just struggling with like inner

423
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:30.440
trust issues.

424
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:33.460
Well, you can't, you can't love others if you're not loving yourself.

425
00:36:34.240 --> 00:36:38.020
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean like, I mean like it's, it's, it's,

426
00:36:38.260 --> 00:36:41.880
so it's not selfish to take care of yourself. It's actually, you're actually

427
00:36:42.060 --> 00:36:44.140
going to, um, so.

428
00:36:44.240 --> 00:36:47.520
And I'm more self doubt. So, so I, you know,

429
00:36:47.520 --> 00:36:50.280
so that was another thing I've been working on too. So

430
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.080
here's the thing he says,

431
00:36:53.140 --> 00:36:56.300
he'll redeem the years that the locust have eaten. You know, there's that verse.

432
00:36:57.300 --> 00:37:00.220
And you know, could he do it? Like literally,

433
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:03.620
like give you back those years. Hey Hunter, like, you know,

434
00:37:03.640 --> 00:37:04.420
could he, but,

435
00:37:04.980 --> 00:37:08.920
but here's the thing is a lot of times it comes with acceleration or like a

436
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:12.460
blessing of something that's mature. Like, you know,

437
00:37:12.460 --> 00:37:16.520
he turned water into wine and wine, wine is a mature thing. Right. You know,

438
00:37:16.520 --> 00:37:19.560
like water, you know, it wasn't like it had to age.

439
00:37:19.560 --> 00:37:24.220
It was immediately. Right. And, and it was great wine. So, I mean,

440
00:37:24.220 --> 00:37:28.720
it was fully, it was fully aged and he can do that in a minute.

441
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:32.880
I mean, you could walk into the room. Um, I guess I'll share my,

442
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.760
uh, man. So, uh, I went to a reading this weekend,

443
00:37:38.420 --> 00:37:43.100
you know, I went to the healing rooms and one of the, I'm calling people kids.

444
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.380
That's pretty bad, but he's like 22 years old.

445
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:48.920
And I met him at school, the prophets. And all of a sudden this dude,

446
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:52.980
I walked in the healing rooms and I had this dude just plastered to me,

447
00:37:52.980 --> 00:37:56.780
give me a huge hug. And I'm like, JJ, what's up, bro. You know? And, um,

448
00:37:57.700 --> 00:38:01.580
and he's like, and he wouldn't let go of me. And he's like, I just see you.

449
00:38:01.580 --> 00:38:05.600
I just see your wedding. And I'm like, Oh gosh, dude. I'm like, bro, I love you,

450
00:38:05.600 --> 00:38:09.660
bro. I love you. But I'm like, there's nobody in my life right now.

451
00:38:09.660 --> 00:38:14.120
So then I walk around the edge of the paintings and run into a gal who I knew

452
00:38:14.120 --> 00:38:18.500
that I, that, um, I was interested in like two years ago.

453
00:38:19.640 --> 00:38:24.040
And she's painting in the healing rooms at Bethel. And so I, um,

454
00:38:25.540 --> 00:38:27.300
just gotten to chat, started chatting with her and I'm like, yeah,

455
00:38:27.300 --> 00:38:31.660
I really dig this. I really dig her. So, um, so right now we're kind of talking.

456
00:38:32.780 --> 00:38:36.480
So like, you know, like, you know, so like I, I got, I got, I got, um,

457
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:41.800
you know, and she's freaking out a bit, um, which is kind of typical of women.

458
00:38:42.040 --> 00:38:44.660
Well, I mean, I don't know typical, but like, I was like, Hey,

459
00:38:44.660 --> 00:38:47.860
I just want to let you know, I'm not, I want to make sure that, you know,

460
00:38:47.860 --> 00:38:52.060
this is romantically in like, I'm interested romantically, not platonically.

461
00:38:52.200 --> 00:38:55.080
Cause like, yes, Mr. Richter, right.

462
00:38:56.380 --> 00:38:59.540
No, no, no. Keep going. I just, I just had a question and if I didn't raise my

463
00:38:59.540 --> 00:39:04.220
hand, then I, I just, okay. Cool. So like, so just, um, you guys,

464
00:39:04.300 --> 00:39:07.340
I wasn't looking for nothing. I actually wasn't looking for anything at all.

465
00:39:07.340 --> 00:39:10.780
And I was kind of jaded and like done with it. Right. I was like, you know,

466
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:13.000
women I'll be celibate for the rest of my life.

467
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:17.720
If I knew my calling didn't require a wife, right. You know, you know,

468
00:39:17.720 --> 00:39:21.580
but just, just to encourage you, like you never know,

469
00:39:22.180 --> 00:39:26.040
you know, um, like, and we'll see where it goes. I mean,

470
00:39:26.040 --> 00:39:29.260
it's the first time I've had somebody reciprocate and actually be interested

471
00:39:29.260 --> 00:39:31.520
back. Well, I've had a lot. That's not true.

472
00:39:32.140 --> 00:39:37.080
Somebody who I wanted to pursue who also wanted was reciprocal.

473
00:39:37.120 --> 00:39:41.640
I've had plenty of people who wanted to be in relationship,

474
00:39:42.160 --> 00:39:46.060
like no thing. Well, cause I want somebody who's a good match anyways.

475
00:39:46.580 --> 00:39:50.340
So that's just my, my, my, my praise breakthrough or whatever. Um,

476
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:54.100
and I'm freaking out a bit cause I'm like, Oh no, like, Lord,

477
00:39:54.160 --> 00:39:56.400
what are you doing? It's I'd have to commute to Reading.

478
00:39:56.520 --> 00:39:59.960
And it's really not convenient. And you know, I'm talking to, I tried to.

479
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.460
you know but i'm like i really i do really dig her you know and and that's another thing another side

480
00:40:06.600 --> 00:40:14.380
um a lot of times if you are how do i say poo-pooing it or like i don't know how you would

481
00:40:14.380 --> 00:40:18.720
call it like if you're like yeah you're justifying why it won't work or why it doesn't a lot of times

482
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:25.520
that do a self-reflection and you'll see that you really are wanting this and therefore you're like

483
00:40:25.520 --> 00:40:31.580
i don't know i'm just you know i'm not saying that's all you guys but i say it's probably

484
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:37.200
uh probably a pretty good thing to self-reflect all right mr right what's going on

485
00:40:39.980 --> 00:40:45.280
i'm gonna be quick you all know that's not true but i'm gonna try to be quick um so uh

486
00:40:47.900 --> 00:40:53.420
uh so i think you you asked what could improve i think for last year single for me

487
00:40:54.260 --> 00:41:00.020
having more opportunity to pray um would be awesome like sunday night's candy really

488
00:41:00.060 --> 00:41:05.460
encourages that like having that man-woman prayer and not that i feel it unfair but i think like i'm

489
00:41:05.460 --> 00:41:11.540
really praying for my from some for more fellow men to come in and i think for me i would love

490
00:41:11.540 --> 00:41:16.820
to see it like because women's they have their prayer groups right um they have you know women's

491
00:41:16.820 --> 00:41:21.060
prayer they have several days and there's faith friday and sometimes faith friday has prayer

492
00:41:21.060 --> 00:41:27.520
sunday night is activation but that's a lot of prayer um but it would be so nice even one day a

493
00:41:27.520 --> 00:41:34.580
week to have like an uh an inner like man and woman prayer time that would be because i was

494
00:41:34.580 --> 00:41:39.600
talking with someone who was a girl um who's in the women's program and she was saying oh like

495
00:41:39.600 --> 00:41:44.120
you know like how last year single praise and i actually started crying in the in the zoom call

496
00:41:44.340 --> 00:41:49.900
because i hadn't experienced that and i and she the way she was describing how they do prayer

497
00:41:49.900 --> 00:41:55.580
i was like oh that's amazing and i understand that like with prayer you know like they try to

498
00:41:55.580 --> 00:41:58.840
be careful because it can be a little intimate when men are praying and women are praying and

499
00:41:59.540 --> 00:42:05.440
whatever um that's one thing another thing it's really hard renee really tries it but it's really

500
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:11.820
hard to actually connect with the women in our community um like okay even if i have a spotlight

501
00:42:11.860 --> 00:42:16.980
how do i other than when renee asks us how do i say oh hey you know what i've been seeing phoebe

502
00:42:16.980 --> 00:42:21.900
in the chat or helen or you know these are the people that i'm interested in like actually having

503
00:42:21.900 --> 00:42:28.940
a place to to express these are some people in my community i mean for me i have a rule if i'm on a

504
00:42:28.940 --> 00:42:33.980
dating site and i see someone from last year single i automatically swipe right all of my like

505
00:42:33.980 --> 00:42:38.140
you know like i'm someone i have an age range i have a country range none of that matters when

506
00:42:38.140 --> 00:42:45.200
i meet someone from last year single but yeah i also just wanted to share briefly um one second

507
00:42:45.200 --> 00:42:50.640
i forgot to say this in my big shirt before is that i actually wrote phoebe this week um because

508
00:42:50.640 --> 00:42:56.600
renee said give it a month don't respond to phoebe and after last night candy was like write down your

509
00:42:56.600 --> 00:43:01.420
dreams and the activation and i literally had christian retreat center and then phoebe wrote

510
00:43:01.420 --> 00:43:06.340
christian retreat center and i deleted my post before i sent it in the zoom and i was like whoa

511
00:43:06.620 --> 00:43:10.820
and then i i was thinking about i've always wanted my mom's a twin so i've always wanted

512
00:43:10.820 --> 00:43:14.760
twins and phoebe wrote you know i i have this dream that i just need to trust the lord with

513
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:22.160
and it was like having twins and i was like whoa that's one of my dreams and so i prayed

514
00:43:22.160 --> 00:43:27.760
and the lord said david you can't wait anymore you need to respond to phoebe and and i was like

515
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:33.380
no god and then i was like a whole night 24 hours of wrestling i work nights wrestling with god

516
00:43:33.380 --> 00:43:38.560
about it and then the lord was like you need to give this to me and so i just wrote her a little

517
00:43:38.560 --> 00:43:43.560
thing i don't care if she responds it just said hey you know i'd love to maybe connect on a video

518
00:43:43.560 --> 00:43:49.840
chat 30 minutes friendly um if she responds great if she doesn't great but i did what was

519
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:55.420
best for me anyways thanks guys well sorry and and so i think that's a great thing um david where

520
00:43:55.420 --> 00:44:06.520
you were on yeah you waited a minute you room you looked at it right and then you still felt it and

521
00:44:06.520 --> 00:44:14.580
ran it through the lord and um and you honored you and and i know you well i think i know you

522
00:44:14.580 --> 00:44:18.700
well enough that you honored her too i'm sure what you said was honoring her as well right like

523
00:44:18.700 --> 00:44:25.600
so as long as there's honor honor i think too often i and like i'm not gonna speak for you guys

524
00:44:25.600 --> 00:44:29.640
what i had something that i've seen is when you've been dishonored as a kid

525
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:37.280
you are willing to honor people but not yourself and one of the growth tools one of the things to

526
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:44.240
grow in is like you can honor yourself and people and other people too right you know it doesn't

527
00:44:44.240 --> 00:44:48.960
have to be like one or the other and like when you're a kid that way you think that you're

528
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:53.800
dishonored so the other person can be honored and there's this juxtaposition right and so like it's

529
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:59.840
really important that y'all are y'all i just got texted you know i do it for cali to text

530
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.500
But y'all are a man of honor here around here.

531
00:45:03.500 --> 00:45:07.140
We're being an honor and we we take care of not bad.

532
00:45:07.460 --> 00:45:10.080
Yeah. You know, it's but like.

533
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:14.260
And I honor people because I'm a man of honor,

534
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:17.440
whether they're honorable or not, does that make sense?

535
00:45:18.020 --> 00:45:19.840
I love people because I'm a lover.

536
00:45:21.120 --> 00:45:22.620
Now, how does that work?

537
00:45:23.420 --> 00:45:25.920
What do you mean by honoring yourself?

538
00:45:26.540 --> 00:45:31.380
OK, so. When your needs are in need,

539
00:45:31.660 --> 00:45:35.380
when your needs aren't met, let's enunciate syllables

540
00:45:35.540 --> 00:45:40.260
when you're a kid, you think that everybody else's is more

541
00:45:40.780 --> 00:45:42.880
their needs are more than your own.

542
00:45:43.640 --> 00:45:45.880
So then if you grew up in like a codependent thing,

543
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.060
like we're having an addict as parents, like I did,

544
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:51.120
where you're meeting their needs, but your needs aren't getting met.

545
00:45:51.380 --> 00:45:53.580
So you're honoring them, but you're not honoring yourself.

546
00:45:53.580 --> 00:45:57.560
And you have this self abandonment. Right.

547
00:45:59.580 --> 00:46:03.320
And so like, so that shows up in relationships.

548
00:46:04.160 --> 00:46:08.660
I mean, I know that the way you see some of that.

549
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.660
Lack of honor, also a reflection of your own fear.

550
00:46:15.300 --> 00:46:19.200
The reason I ask is I told you earlier about my own sense

551
00:46:19.200 --> 00:46:22.360
of unworthiness, right, coming out of my childhood, right?

552
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.120
I came out two and a half years ago.

553
00:46:25.420 --> 00:46:28.480
I came out of a two year relationship with somebody who I thought

554
00:46:28.560 --> 00:46:33.540
was the most Christian relation, grounded Christian relationship I had.

555
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:35.700
And we had to talk about getting married.

556
00:46:36.260 --> 00:46:40.220
And we were talking about until the point where we got to the conversations

557
00:46:40.460 --> 00:46:44.900
of how would this actually work if we came together and got married?

558
00:46:44.940 --> 00:46:47.660
Because there were some touch, you know, touch your points

559
00:46:47.660 --> 00:46:50.980
when you start talking finances, well, how are we going to handle finances

560
00:46:50.980 --> 00:46:52.520
if we're married? Right.

561
00:46:52.520 --> 00:46:54.240
And how are we going to where are we going to live?

562
00:46:54.620 --> 00:46:57.240
And what are we going to do in terms of now?

563
00:46:57.240 --> 00:46:59.620
She was she's she's Korean.

564
00:47:00.260 --> 00:47:02.700
And she had been in the States for 25 years.

565
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:05.320
So she's well into the state.

566
00:47:05.340 --> 00:47:09.560
Yeah. At the same time, she has a cultural need to remain connected

567
00:47:09.560 --> 00:47:13.760
with her Koreans in Jersey's got a large Korean and Asian population.

568
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:18.200
So she's able to really stay connected to her community.

569
00:47:18.200 --> 00:47:19.800
Best ever had was in Jersey.

570
00:47:21.260 --> 00:47:22.200
What's that?

571
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:24.900
I said the best kimchi I ever had was in Jersey.

572
00:47:26.140 --> 00:47:27.060
Yeah. Yes.

573
00:47:27.620 --> 00:47:31.960
So end result was she ended up ending the relationship.

574
00:47:33.260 --> 00:47:35.900
Part of it was touch points around finances.

575
00:47:36.180 --> 00:47:42.940
Part of it was dealing with the issue of cultural continuity for her and stuff.

576
00:47:43.600 --> 00:47:47.900
But. I left there and what took me back was

577
00:47:48.200 --> 00:47:51.320
she got basically gaslighted me after that.

578
00:47:52.200 --> 00:47:54.260
And I couldn't understand.

579
00:47:55.160 --> 00:47:58.120
Like we were and we acknowledge this relation.

580
00:47:58.160 --> 00:48:00.740
She told me at one point, you know, you are the most health.

581
00:48:00.740 --> 00:48:03.940
You are the healthiest male relationship I've had in my life.

582
00:48:04.260 --> 00:48:09.260
And then at the end, it's cold turkey, you know, turns on a dime.

583
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:10.900
Now I'm going to gaslight you.

584
00:48:10.900 --> 00:48:13.600
I won't even open up to a conversation about this.

585
00:48:14.340 --> 00:48:16.980
So and I'm reading them asking about the honor piece of this.

586
00:48:16.980 --> 00:48:20.320
Was it also ties in, I guess, a little bit with the closure question

587
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:24.120
that Jackie had in the on the chapters on forgiveness was

588
00:48:24.120 --> 00:48:27.500
I feel like I didn't get that closure that I want.

589
00:48:28.060 --> 00:48:31.780
But the closure I needed wasn't really necessarily.

590
00:48:32.740 --> 00:48:35.160
I forget how Jackie phrased it in the book now, but.

591
00:48:37.540 --> 00:48:40.140
I needed some closure because

592
00:48:40.580 --> 00:48:43.860
I guess I don't I wanted a validation of some sort.

593
00:48:43.860 --> 00:48:47.000
Because I'm out there feeling like I'm unworthy.

594
00:48:47.380 --> 00:48:48.480
Tell me why I'm unworthy.

595
00:48:49.620 --> 00:48:50.520
You know, 100 percent.

596
00:48:51.220 --> 00:48:52.600
Well, and OK, so how you.

597
00:48:54.060 --> 00:48:55.720
So I forget there's a word.

598
00:48:56.740 --> 00:48:58.260
There's a bias that your brain has.

599
00:48:59.540 --> 00:49:02.600
Right. Like where if you're looking for.

600
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:08.180
Yeah, well, or unhealthy, like whatever, like if you're looking for a negative

601
00:49:08.180 --> 00:49:13.160
thing to to to like it happens in scripture,

602
00:49:13.160 --> 00:49:14.980
it happens in so many different areas of life.

603
00:49:15.460 --> 00:49:19.140
It reinforces your it's your the bias that you have.

604
00:49:19.420 --> 00:49:22.680
So if you're biased that I'm bad, you're going to find everything

605
00:49:22.680 --> 00:49:23.880
that says that you're bad.

606
00:49:24.140 --> 00:49:26.200
But if you're biased, that you're good,

607
00:49:26.500 --> 00:49:28.900
then you're going to find everything that says that you're good.

608
00:49:29.200 --> 00:49:30.880
And like, you know, and like and so.

609
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.960
Gosh, I wish I could remember that terminology, but

610
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:38.760
but the whole thing is, and that's why it's key to do the hard work

611
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:43.040
is to shake in like and David, it filters another way of saying it

612
00:49:43.040 --> 00:49:46.780
like the way you filter things or the thoughts in your mind.

613
00:49:46.860 --> 00:49:48.820
And that's why it's important to take every thought captive

614
00:49:48.820 --> 00:49:52.500
to the obedience of Christ, because what does God say about you?

615
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:55.500
Like because what I say about my what Mike says about Mike

616
00:49:55.500 --> 00:49:56.720
isn't always really good.

617
00:49:57.580 --> 00:49:59.980
Well, yeah, it's got it's gotten better over the years, but it's still.

618
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.720
Oh, like, I'm pretty self critical, right? You know, like,

619
00:50:04.160 --> 00:50:06.740
and because I had to be self critical, because I had to be

620
00:50:06.740 --> 00:50:10.700
perfect to be loved. But yeah, I'm perfectly loved by the

621
00:50:10.520 --> 00:50:13.980
Father. Right. And so coming into that thing, and, you know,

622
00:50:14.740 --> 00:50:22.920
and so, so honoring, and so you brought up an interesting point.

623
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:26.120
And I'm like, man, we want to go there.

624
00:50:26.820 --> 00:50:29.240
And tying it back to the point of honor, I feel like I'm not

625
00:50:29.240 --> 00:50:30.740
actually honoring myself.

626
00:50:31.580 --> 00:50:37.340
No, you're not. And, and closure is a tricky, tricky thing. So my

627
00:50:37.340 --> 00:50:40.880
stepdad is the person who has hurt me that well, my second

628
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:45.320
stepdad, I mean, I had two, three now. But anyways, I had my

629
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:48.080
mom was married four times before I was three times before

630
00:50:48.080 --> 00:50:51.780
I was five. I think it was three times, three times before. I

631
00:50:51.780 --> 00:50:55.260
think it was three times before I was four. Anyways. So I have

632
00:50:55.260 --> 00:51:01.720
a similar story to Jackie, but, but my stepdad is, you know, I

633
00:51:01.720 --> 00:51:03.560
actually led him to the Lord, too, which is kind of crazy,

634
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.800
like crazy redemption story. Like when you forgive, you know,

635
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:11.220
God can do crazy things through you. But so when one day when he

636
00:51:11.220 --> 00:51:14.960
actually, I thought my whole life would be okay. Like, I just

637
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.220
need him to, Hunter, I'll get you in a minute, by the way.

638
00:51:17.220 --> 00:51:20.940
Sorry, Hunter. I thought if I just got an apology from him,

639
00:51:22.020 --> 00:51:26.940
that like, it would, it would, that's what I just needed an

640
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:30.820
apology. Right? And I got it. And I'm like, that didn't do

641
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:34.180
anything. Yeah. Like, like, I mean, like, did like, actually,

642
00:51:34.180 --> 00:51:39.020
I was, I was upset. Can you get an apology and be upset? Right?

643
00:51:39.140 --> 00:51:41.460
I was like, I got a thing that I thought was gonna fix

644
00:51:42.300 --> 00:51:47.680
everything. And it didn't. Yeah. And so, and I tell people like

645
00:51:47.680 --> 00:51:51.240
if, well, and I've watched people get barbecued and

646
00:51:51.240 --> 00:51:57.080
crushed even harder, seeking that closure. Right? Like, like,

647
00:51:57.140 --> 00:52:05.300
you guys, I, I can't, I can tell you, I probably 20 or 30 times

648
00:52:05.300 --> 00:52:08.920
I've seen somebody actually get obliterated seeking that. And I

649
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:12.240
can't remember somebody actually, maybe there's, I'm

650
00:52:12.240 --> 00:52:15.640
sure there's probably a couple, but like, I deal with a lot of

651
00:52:15.640 --> 00:52:19.020
people like that, they got the closure and it helped. But for

652
00:52:19.020 --> 00:52:23.100
the most part, usually that process. And so my encouragement

653
00:52:23.100 --> 00:52:28.600
to you is the way you can honor yourself. And you don't, you

654
00:52:28.600 --> 00:52:30.580
don't even need the, a lot of times you don't need the other

655
00:52:30.580 --> 00:52:36.620
person to write a letter about everything that you like wanted

656
00:52:36.620 --> 00:52:39.780
to say. I mean, some people are like, this is something you do

657
00:52:39.780 --> 00:52:41.800
with somebody who's passed away. Like my grandfather, I had to

658
00:52:41.900 --> 00:52:45.820
write a letter to him because he was deceased. Right. And I

659
00:52:45.820 --> 00:52:53.560
just laid it all out in a letter. Right. And I just, and

660
00:52:53.560 --> 00:52:57.260
then I burned it. Right. You know, I mean, you can do

661
00:52:57.260 --> 00:53:00.080
whatever, I mean, like that helps, but I'm just saying like,

662
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:04.120
so when you need that was like, it's like, okay, I got it out of

663
00:53:04.120 --> 00:53:12.500
me. Right. And I honored myself in that way. Yeah. And when

664
00:53:12.500 --> 00:53:17.460
you've been taught to, to dismiss your needs, your whole

665
00:53:18.020 --> 00:53:22.180
life, it's dishonoring yourself. So and that and then it's scary

666
00:53:22.180 --> 00:53:25.480
to say, hey, you know what, I actually need stuff. You know,

667
00:53:25.540 --> 00:53:28.700
because the people you've never been able to express that. And

668
00:53:28.700 --> 00:53:31.980
you guys, you all have needs. Now, I mean, what there's

669
00:53:31.980 --> 00:53:34.200
legitimate needs, and there's wants, there's wants and needs

670
00:53:34.200 --> 00:53:36.160
like, you know, like, you know, so make sure that you're

671
00:53:36.160 --> 00:53:39.600
expressing your want your needs that are needs and not your

672
00:53:39.600 --> 00:53:41.980
wants his needs, but even sometimes your wants are

673
00:53:42.660 --> 00:53:46.060
perfectly valid, right? You know, so like, in my

674
00:53:46.060 --> 00:53:48.440
relationships, I required nothing of him. Everybody

675
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:51.160
required everything of me, but I required nothing of everybody.

676
00:53:51.720 --> 00:53:57.360
Does that make sense? So I self, I self abandoned, I didn't honor

677
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:04.180
this person, right? And, and so, and David, I think, I think

678
00:54:04.180 --> 00:54:08.320
you're Mr. Henshaw, right? Like, it sounded like you're really

679
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:10.680
like, when you're requiring that you're working on honoring

680
00:54:10.680 --> 00:54:14.440
yourself really well. I've just seen both actually both David's

681
00:54:15.120 --> 00:54:19.800
is like, you're honoring yourself. And what other people,

682
00:54:20.560 --> 00:54:22.980
if other people have a problem with you loving and honoring

683
00:54:22.980 --> 00:54:25.920
yourself, then they don't really need to be in your life, or they

684
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:29.520
need to be a boundary back or bound or they need to be on the

685
00:54:29.520 --> 00:54:33.140
outer perimeter, right, you know, until they can show that

686
00:54:33.180 --> 00:54:38.000
they're trustworthy to come in. So I just like if you have

687
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:42.600
somebody who you I mean, this might be I feel like a couple of

688
00:54:42.600 --> 00:54:45.520
you guys might access might actually benefit you guys is to

689
00:54:45.620 --> 00:54:52.160
write a letter, and not not to mail, not to give, but just

690
00:54:52.160 --> 00:54:56.660
express, right? And then you can throw it in the fireplace or

691
00:54:56.660 --> 00:54:59.920
shred it. I mean, like you choose what you want to do. And

692
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.600
that and then just yeah and then i did that in bible college once and you can give it to god

693
00:55:04.600 --> 00:55:10.360
and then shred it right so all right mr hunter we got a couple minutes left i just hey good to

694
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:15.980
see you how are you doing all right but before before hunter go hey hey wait wait what's sorry

695
00:55:15.980 --> 00:55:19.780
no no i'm not interrupting hunter just can you make sure that all your all of our feedback gets

696
00:55:19.980 --> 00:55:24.320
to jackie of the stuff that we wanted of improvement and i'm interested to know what

697
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:28.720
hunter thinks too like what they can improve upon for the men's program sorry hunter go

698
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:34.760
all right well you see i haven't been here for a while because i was abroad i finally got to go

699
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:41.680
abroad to greece and malt and i even went spent 72 hours in malta that's cool with my church

700
00:55:41.680 --> 00:55:49.180
did you get bit by a snake no but they but they went but they said something about that so we got

701
00:55:49.180 --> 00:55:55.200
to go see monuments too with our church group and well there was many couples there are 40 people

702
00:55:55.200 --> 00:56:01.660
in the group there were five there were six they were six young adults including me and i think

703
00:56:01.660 --> 00:56:07.860
there's one two three four five then there's five women and i'm the sixth and the sixth i'm the

704
00:56:07.860 --> 00:56:14.500
other guy so we got to go and we had i know two women already who are in my church already and

705
00:56:14.560 --> 00:56:20.620
i got to talk to them we we had a level one but and then over time i try to think about

706
00:56:20.620 --> 00:56:25.120
how am i going to be i already want to give it to the lord and doing the hard work

707
00:56:25.380 --> 00:56:29.740
thinking how can i socialize a little good because i'm going on the last year's singles

708
00:56:29.740 --> 00:56:35.540
cruise after this thinking how can i do this because even though they may not be what god

709
00:56:35.540 --> 00:56:40.360
has for me it never hurts to put yourself out there and hone your skills thinking about what

710
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:45.940
can i do to do it i want to be treated that way and not be treated that way it's all about

711
00:56:45.940 --> 00:56:51.180
anticipating how they feel so we got to know each other on our way down to the airport and

712
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:58.180
we it was becoming good we had a level one a level two relationships and and i got i developed more

713
00:56:58.180 --> 00:57:03.940
than one level two relationship with them and then we got on the plane and then all of a sudden we

714
00:57:03.940 --> 00:57:10.320
got to i didn't try to go in and try to latch on to them or anything i just wanted it's all about

715
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:14.640
trying to think what what would they really want they really want someone who who wants to

716
00:57:15.420 --> 00:57:20.780
acknowledge them and specialize in them and i figured you know what rather than try to attach

717
00:57:20.780 --> 00:57:26.640
myself to them how about i just go where they feel like that i'm with them not not feel alone

718
00:57:26.640 --> 00:57:31.200
because you can't there's a difference between wanting to be with the person versus you're just

719
00:57:31.200 --> 00:57:37.740
next to the person so let's try there's something present versus being like being engaged in the

720
00:57:37.740 --> 00:57:43.880
present versus just yeah it's basically the whole trip's about me what i what's a good thing we can

721
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:48.620
do one thing we cannot do that's the kind of skill i'm trying to hone on and then when they go off

722
00:57:48.620 --> 00:57:53.940
and do something to chat i try to be possessive jelly and possessive thinking i'm not going to do

723
00:57:53.940 --> 00:57:59.420
that you know i'm i'm going to give them a long leash on this because sometimes when you're in a

724
00:57:59.420 --> 00:58:03.480
level three relationship you're always concerned what the other what your partner's up to or so

725
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:08.460
i'm going to feel like that but you know what i'm not going to let that become a big insecurity to

726
00:58:08.460 --> 00:58:13.440
me you're just going to i'm just going to sit there and let them be me and put some trust in them

727
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:18.700
and then all and then sometimes i would try to be a gentleman saying it's okay if i sit down

728
00:58:18.820 --> 00:58:22.500
like sometimes when we sit on need it's okay if i sit down they're like yeah we can and

729
00:58:22.500 --> 00:58:27.720
we got to have the young adults group and i try to be the best gentleman as i can amongst them

730
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:32.040
well hunch i'm really glad you're you're looking um

731
00:58:33.940 --> 00:58:37.640
well i mean this is okay you guys this for this is for y'all like for everybody right

732
00:58:38.240 --> 00:58:44.760
we're actually looking ahead and kind of um figuring out hey what does this require to be

733
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:50.740
in relationship what how how could i i engage it like this might not be somebody who i want to date

734
00:58:50.740 --> 00:58:58.420
per se but how can i just get in a combo and like get some reps in on the skills and um

735
00:58:59.340 --> 00:59:07.420
and just rather than be be proactive versus reactive yeah like you can walk in okay so

736
00:59:07.420 --> 00:59:13.380
you guys like if you if like you're walking into a place have your head up shoulders back huge

737
00:59:13.860 --> 00:59:18.940
right walk in walk in you walk in like you own the room because you know i mean that's who you

738
00:59:18.940 --> 00:59:23.540
are you guys are all powerful dudes right you're all amazing dudes walk in like you own the place

739
00:59:23.740 --> 00:59:31.540
and that shirt that just changes everything right how you're seen how you're perceived

740
00:59:31.540 --> 00:59:36.340
if i walk in slunched and like hi guys how are you doing you know like nobody's gonna nobody

741
00:59:36.340 --> 00:59:42.740
wants to know what was gonna be like look at that scrub you know you know but i walked in

742
00:59:42.740 --> 00:59:49.520
and then that chest back just wanting to hang out and you know um and then as i was saying there

743
00:59:49.520 --> 00:59:56.060
was also the the part where i was i talked with some girl that some girl at our church and and

744
00:59:56.060 --> 00:59:59.980
i was thinking i was infatuated about me being in relationship with her and everything

745
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:05.500
And the more I got to know her the more I'm thinking you know what if I was gonna if she was interested in me

746
01:00:05.500 --> 01:00:06.000
And in again

747
01:00:06.060 --> 01:00:11.520
I should see social cues where she would want to be around me a lot more rather than go about with her friends more

748
01:00:11.900 --> 01:00:18.700
Well, and then I was thinking I instead of trying to make it happen trying to make you have I just sit there and and try

749
01:00:18.700 --> 01:00:19.420
To say okay

750
01:00:19.420 --> 01:00:23.700
If you if they really love me they should sit I gave my best and try to be polite

751
01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:28.640
But if they really like me they would spend more want to come to me rather than me trying to go on

752
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:33.380
But in hunter it's I

753
01:00:33.380 --> 01:00:37.720
Don't know. Yeah, I'm not gonna speak for y'all but like women are sometimes hard to decipher man

754
01:00:37.720 --> 01:00:42.300
Like, you know, like, you know, are they they're hot cold there whatever, you know

755
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:45.640
But like if they really do like you they're gonna make it opportunity

756
01:00:45.660 --> 01:00:47.900
Give you the opportunity in Rhodes, right?

757
01:00:48.160 --> 01:00:54.740
And I did and one one time did I gave up the best version of me to her and she liked she was very

758
01:00:54.740 --> 01:00:58.700
Proud of me sometimes because one time we went up to we were in Athens

759
01:00:58.700 --> 01:01:02.760
I went up to the Arabicus and and we were doing something

760
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:08.040
I said after and she goes and I turned her off. I was like screw screw that I apologize

761
01:01:08.040 --> 01:01:12.920
She goes I forgive you, but I'm not gonna condone it. And so we got to take photos and then

762
01:01:13.700 --> 01:01:19.140
So I I don't instead of beating myself up because I did turn off some of them one and ones

763
01:01:19.140 --> 01:01:23.620
Instead of beating myself up just try your best and learn learn and keep it to a minimum

764
01:01:23.620 --> 01:01:28.180
It's best you know how so I and then we when we went to her tower last day

765
01:01:28.340 --> 01:01:35.500
She I taught her about my situation my story and my upbringings and she was very proud of me because she knows I've a special needs

766
01:01:35.500 --> 01:01:36.360
guy and

767
01:01:36.640 --> 01:01:41.900
She liked the fact that I can she likes the fact I'm not gonna be defined by my circumstances

768
01:01:41.900 --> 01:01:46.760
I'm gonna break through it and break and have my own and try to take control of it

769
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:52.740
and and even she even liked the fact I was able to organize my finances and put goals and think ahead and

770
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:59.400
Put and make go on a trip on my own to to bless it on my own. You're doing amazing Hunter

771
01:01:59.420 --> 01:02:05.240
Yeah, she really likes that. That's the thing. She admires and respects about the positive fulfilling things

772
01:02:05.240 --> 01:02:10.900
I can do in my life outside of my own struggles because even if you're I'm the best version of myself

773
01:02:10.900 --> 01:02:18.300
There's no guarantee that it's gonna win the race ship and then she went off with her friends to have the girl talk and

774
01:02:18.300 --> 01:02:21.200
Then there was one and and so and that's the thing

775
01:02:22.020 --> 01:02:24.120
Here, I mean and you guys all

776
01:02:25.380 --> 01:02:26.860
Well, I'm you should

777
01:02:27.200 --> 01:02:32.980
You know, I speak in absolutes and then I'm about to start speaking in absolutes and then I'm catching myself you all should

778
01:02:33.420 --> 01:02:34.780
But here's the thing

779
01:02:35.340 --> 01:02:38.400
You show up with the best version of you that you have at the time

780
01:02:38.460 --> 01:02:40.500
Mm-hmm, right

781
01:02:40.620 --> 01:02:46.340
You do your best job and if it works out amazing if it doesn't you did your best

782
01:02:46.980 --> 01:02:52.220
There's great energy like they get like like the gal on Sunday. I showed up as me and

783
01:02:52.220 --> 01:02:53.220
You know what?

784
01:02:53.500 --> 01:02:55.580
Regardless of how it works out. That's a win

785
01:02:56.600 --> 01:02:58.820
right because usually I show up and I'm

786
01:03:01.300 --> 01:03:05.340
Tilted which is super awkward like, you know, I'm triggered like whatever like cuz

787
01:03:07.060 --> 01:03:07.620
I

788
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:08.760
I

789
01:03:14.980 --> 01:03:17.680
Just had a lot of trauma when it comes to that all that stuff

790
01:03:17.680 --> 01:03:23.260
So when I get there all of a sudden my subconscious is firing and it's like, oh this is gonna happen again

791
01:03:23.260 --> 01:03:24.180
You know like, you know

792
01:03:24.720 --> 01:03:29.740
And so when I can actually show up present and that's something that I that I know about you know

793
01:03:29.740 --> 01:03:34.820
Like the heart work if you know, you have something going in prep yourself, you know

794
01:03:34.820 --> 01:03:41.640
I mean, I actually got kind of flat-footed and it was okay, but I just stayed as me and hunter you be you and whoever

795
01:03:42.860 --> 01:03:46.000
You got two more kind of two more to talk about well

796
01:03:47.160 --> 01:03:52.840
Over time so I apologize like next we'll try to get into that next but like

797
01:03:53.340 --> 01:03:58.340
I'm coming in late because I'm gonna I'm busy working late. No, no, I understand so I but

798
01:03:59.500 --> 01:04:05.460
I'm sorry. I had I was trying to fish and I got more details to bring into my trip. Anyways, why no

799
01:04:05.460 --> 01:04:07.480
We don't have time to share that right today

800
01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:15.180
But you guys show up as you're as authentic as you can be with who show up as you because too often

801
01:04:17.100 --> 01:04:19.660
So when you have two people come together as

802
01:04:20.260 --> 01:04:23.780
Something that the update the other person wants to see but not them true selves

803
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:26.540
Then you actually don't get they don't even get to know each other

804
01:04:26.540 --> 01:04:31.680
Like if you show up as the true you and you see how they respond to the true you then she gets to know you

805
01:04:31.680 --> 01:04:37.400
And you hopefully she spawns as the true her and you guys actually have something authentic

806
01:04:38.380 --> 01:04:41.100
To assess whether it's good bad and different

807
01:04:41.460 --> 01:04:48.420
But like showing up in the best way like Sherry the gal that I ran into on Sunday on on Saturday

808
01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:52.880
She got the she got me and it's like hey love me hate me

809
01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:59.880
Like, you know, but you got you got to experience the real me and for me that's a win because usually I get all freaked out

810
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.860
neurotic and, you know, like, oh my gosh, she's gonna reject me.

811
01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:08.920
So I have to like, you know, I'm like, Bob, like, you know, so I, I got a lot of self

812
01:05:09.080 --> 01:05:11.320
abandoning things that I've been working through over the years.

813
01:05:11.420 --> 01:05:14.740
And so I'm like, she's gonna find a reason to hate me.

814
01:05:15.340 --> 01:05:18.520
You know, like, it's gonna be evident because everybody else has already done that.

815
01:05:18.700 --> 01:05:20.260
And that narrative starts playing.

816
01:05:20.260 --> 01:05:26.040
And then it's self fulfilling prophecy versus, hey, I'm gonna show up as me.

817
01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:28.220
And I dig this gal.

818
01:05:28.220 --> 01:05:29.520
She seems really cool.

819
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:35.540
And if it works out, praise Jesus, if it doesn't work out, man, I'm really proud of me.

820
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:36.960
Right.

821
01:05:37.340 --> 01:05:42.140
And so, um, so Hunter, I'm glad you had a good trip and I'm sure we'll hear more about

822
01:05:42.140 --> 01:05:42.260
it.

823
01:05:42.680 --> 01:05:46.140
But, um, I'll write down more details of how it went down.

824
01:05:46.180 --> 01:05:49.380
You're just just a fraction of what I explained to what happened.

825
01:05:49.460 --> 01:05:50.100
No, I know.

826
01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:53.820
And I'm so proud of you, Hunter, man, like, you're so special, man.

827
01:05:53.820 --> 01:05:55.960
And like seeing how much you've grown and just your share.

828
01:05:56.020 --> 01:05:56.560
That was amazing.

829
01:05:56.560 --> 01:05:58.100
Also, I wrote my Insta.

830
01:05:58.180 --> 01:06:00.680
If you still feel like you need to talk tonight, I'm available.

831
01:06:01.080 --> 01:06:01.520
I work nights.

832
01:06:01.560 --> 01:06:03.140
So you can just call me after this.

833
01:06:03.200 --> 01:06:05.500
And if you want feelings to share, you can call me better.

834
01:06:05.700 --> 01:06:06.720
So don't worry about it.

835
01:06:08.520 --> 01:06:08.520


836
01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:10.240
I was searching.

837
01:06:11.180 --> 01:06:16.500
I don't have my mouse that I normally have, but I'm like, yeah, yeah, a streamlined way

838
01:06:16.500 --> 01:06:17.040
of connection.

839
01:06:17.200 --> 01:06:18.680
Yeah, that's the.

840
01:06:18.680 --> 01:06:27.720
So I got shared prayer time, connection times, streamlined, streamlined, sorry, streamlined

841
01:06:27.720 --> 01:06:28.640
way to connect.

842
01:06:29.740 --> 01:06:29.940
Yeah.

843
01:06:29.940 --> 01:06:31.780
Like a weekly prayer time for men.

844
01:06:32.780 --> 01:06:33.260
Yeah.

845
01:06:34.420 --> 01:06:36.620
Weekly for men and shared prayer time.

846
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:37.000
Sorry.

847
01:06:38.680 --> 01:06:41.800
I'm trying to lead as well as do all the notes too.

848
01:06:41.940 --> 01:06:42.440
So thank you, David.

849
01:06:44.260 --> 01:06:49.220
Weekly men's prayer as and connection to.

850
01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:53.140
Oh, and I just put connection times because of what I'm hearing, you guys, like, it's

851
01:06:53.140 --> 01:06:57.580
really hard to connect to the ladies in the group and like things, things that read connection

852
01:06:57.580 --> 01:06:58.100
would be amazing.

853
01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:00.500
Would you guys concur with that?

854
01:07:01.040 --> 01:07:01.360
Yeah.

855
01:07:01.820 --> 01:07:07.640
And if they just put their age in the frickin on their list, like, what are you looking

856
01:07:07.640 --> 01:07:07.920
for?

857
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:07.980
Yeah.

858
01:07:08.080 --> 01:07:12.800
Like, so often I'm like, she looks like she's 20 and she's 45.

859
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:16.260
And then she looks like, you know, like she's 45 and she's 25.

860
01:07:16.340 --> 01:07:23.600
Like, I don't know, like a second, you know, like, so, but I'm proud of y'all.

861
01:07:24.140 --> 01:07:26.680
Thank you guys for showing up and doing the work.

862
01:07:28.540 --> 01:07:28.940
Yeah.

863
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.560
And just, so I'm going to suppress up Lord Jesus.

864
01:07:32.560 --> 01:07:36.140
I just thank you for all the men that are going to listen to this, the men that are

865
01:07:36.140 --> 01:07:36.880
on this call.

866
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:39.920
But Lord, would you help us to show up as who you've made us to be?

867
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:43.040
Would you heal the parts of our hearts that got broken when we were kids?

868
01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:45.260
I'm just so proud of every man here.

869
01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:48.800
Would you just honor everything they do with the heart work and Lord, would you help us

870
01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:56.420
to see the things that are killing us that are, and be a self-aware and that, and would

871
01:07:56.420 --> 01:07:57.560
you reveal them to heal them?

872
01:07:57.700 --> 01:08:03.360
And I just pray for the amazing ladies in this group that you would bless, do the same

873
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:10.400
in them and that you would help Jackie and David to figure out how to get more connections

874
01:08:11.200 --> 01:08:15.440
and just, and to do all the things that they want to do and just to bring the kingdom.

875
01:08:16.140 --> 01:08:20.160
But Lord, I just pray every one of these men would feel your presence tangibly, that your

876
01:08:20.160 --> 01:08:25.660
love would surround them as a shield, that they would dream again.

877
01:08:26.020 --> 01:08:31.880
I just, yeah, Lord, that you would dream with them again, that they would allow themselves

878
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:37.000
to risk dreaming again, that their hearts would come back alive, that you guys speak

879
01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:41.880
to all you guys' spirits and say, come alive, walk as the man that God's called you to be.

880
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:46.380
And just Lord, we just thank you that you're amazing and that you brought this group together.

881
01:08:46.859 --> 01:08:53.380
And I just look forward to seeing all these guys get married to amazing women in Jesus' name.

882
01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:53.779
Amen.

883
01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:55.460
Love you all.

884
01:08:55.700 --> 01:08:56.979
Have a blessed week.

885
01:08:56.979 --> 01:09:01.979
And yeah, thanks for risking, being authentic.

886
01:09:02.160 --> 01:09:03.340
You guys are all amazing.

887
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:05.040
Have a wonderful-

888
01:09:05.040 --> 01:09:05.359
Thank you, Mike.

889
01:09:05.700 --> 01:09:06.760
This was a blessing.

890
01:09:07.420 --> 01:09:08.200
Thank you, Mike.

891
01:09:08.540 --> 01:09:09.040
All right.

892
01:09:09.040 --> 01:09:09.380
Take care.

893
01:09:09.580 --> 01:09:10.319
God bless, guys.

894
01:09:10.859 --> 01:09:10.960
Bye-bye.

895
01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:12.279
Bye-bye.