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So I always have like, but all the agents in my office are here, on my notes, I have

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like all these, of like Windows apps here, which are not connected with anything, because

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I'm just like, in the sessions, but like, by the end of the session, I have all the

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But like, the end, like, this is what's connected to my brain.

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Sure.

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The session that's available for me to use at any point.

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Okay.

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So, it's like, hey, what are you doing?

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Okay.

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And so, how is, okay, so where did Slack get, how did it get bring Slack in?

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Does it?

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Check Slack.

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And it's, and then it saved it to the transcripts.

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Correct.

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And then when you hear it was like, oh, by the way, I have that transcript and it pulled

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it back into context.

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I'm coming together.

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I see.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So, here, you can see how it navigates.

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So, it's very natural.

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It's a scroll.

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It's very difficult to find.

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It provides me some findings, which are interesting.

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It provides me some connections here, which I can, now, what I do, I basically say.

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I'm recording this for the team, by the way, just because this is like, no, it's amazing.

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It's like super helpful.

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I know he's like, oh, yeah, I'm just working.

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I was like, this is, I think this would be super useful, everybody to see.

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Because.

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I'm glad that's helpful.

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So, the person is basically what's always good.

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Great.

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Great.

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Research.

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Research.

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Great.

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Yeah, this is where, so, you're kind of doing your thinking and research and.

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Practicing.

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Yeah, this is where, so, you're kind of doing your thinking and research and planning in

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And then you're going to go take it.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And then you're going to go take it. Yeah, yeah.

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And then also.

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Which is very interesting because it allows me to kind of.

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Use also monitoring.

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So, the project. So projects is not tribe social it's not an app it's like a thing I'm working on this week, it's just like an active, like, oh, it's more like a task, almost, I would think of like a task.

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The main difference is like, a project is something we're bringing in at the end, and an area is something we're opening to new opportunities.

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Or an area that we want to keep, or a responsibility that we want to keep.

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For instance, like, an area that I want to expand into.

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To manage my files, for instance.

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Like, the bots that I use to manage my files.

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Something that will begin, it will end.

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And then through my archive...

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Got it. Okay.

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Yeah, I understand.

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That's one thing.

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Also, like, I didn't want to do it in practice.

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Yes, exactly.

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How do you link the repo to the...

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Like, that max projects to specific files on my computer, so they can manage their repos.

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Also, like, in the general rule in my cloud, I have, like, all my repos saved on the same folder.

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So, it's usually...

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Okay, quick question.

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Can you just zoom out?

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Like, can you see your finder?

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Like, where is the garden, and then where is it in relation to the repo folder?

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Are they, like, siblings?

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Are they parent, child?

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Like, what's the...

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This is super useful stuff.

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Okay, so they're garden, and then there's a repo folder sibling, and then underneath is everything.

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Okay, cool. Got it.

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But if you go to the Janata folder, there is a .cloud directory in here.

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Are you just ignoring that, or just letting it do whatever it wants in here?

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It's in, like, a command shift period, or whatever, to see it.

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But, like, that cloud folder right there, that's where, like, all your memories are being stored.

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Yeah, it's called cloud.

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Like, it's on my folder piece, and so, like, that's the idea of the cloud.

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It's the generative state part of the world.

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So, cloud can have, like, specific memories saved on cloud sessions.

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But, like, what I use in Assassin's Creed is default.

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I have, like, all these skills that I have available across everything.

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Yeah, amazing. This is good.

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And do you... I've seen, like, Peter levels and stuff.

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Like, they'll take this and then, like, commit the whole garden, like, to a repo and back it up every night.

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Which is basically a...

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Okay, and just to be, like, this is warp, though.

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Warp is what's changing between those models, or you're not in Claude changing between models.

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Because they kind of look so similar.

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I'm just...

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Very nice. Okay, cool.

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Okay, so that's a warp feature to...

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Use the terminal to jump between

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Correct

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Or is that a

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Yeah, yeah sure

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Quickly have it. Yeah. Yeah

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Okay, and

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Herms is running inside everything you're talking about. Here's still this project is is inside the garden. She's running the Herms agent in the garden

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And the beautiful thing is that

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I don't need a interface

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So all the vaults follow

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The exigens structure

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So yeah, it's very useful

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For like

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To get it

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But you need to pay

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For all the exigens

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But for me

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The cheaper option to manage

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It's more UI friendly

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Which may be useful

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Maybe you're supposed to do something like that

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It's a lot easier to just

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That you want and you end up

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Talking to people

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It's an interesting approach

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To do stuff so

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I'll show you something

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This is like

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This is

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To manage the vault

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Yeah this case is interesting

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I just come here and I say, hey, take a look at this and this has a nice startup one to work.

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Whether you need to do

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And it works for everything.

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It's

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I also have this open body genetic thing, which basically I scan all the open body and I process it and take the genetic into my brain.

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It's a very specific office and workflow that I do.

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So this way, everything is still working.

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It's just like getting ready for the next level of instruction.

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Before it was about writing the rules, now it's just about writing the rules.

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And there are some scripts associated with it.

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Let me see if I can find a good example.

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I think this one has a mixed script.

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That's great.

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So this is going to kind of close that loop.

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So you're doing the task.

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You wrote the thing for tribe.

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So then it created a project.

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Okay, cool.

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So you jumped back to it.

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I wrote it all in Portuguese, but that's fair enough.

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Okay, so it's adding links.

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It's letting links though in the MD file to a bunch of other stuff.

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So I guess are you going to go load this into the next thing?

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So all I have to do is I come here and I press on the shift C,

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and I go through the instructions.

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And I go up here and I go to the specific people.

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So that was a bit manual.

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So you're literally seeding from the.

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I didn't know what that handoff was going to look like.

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So it is literally just you kind of getting into the directory,

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launching cloud in that mobile directories where you started it,

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not the whole tribe.

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And then we're just dealing with it.

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Then you just pull the context in.

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Okay, cool.

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So it's loaded.

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And then I see you've got like kickoff MD.

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So is a way to just sort of kick is that you have to run the kickoff.

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Then we'll just say, get started.

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Or what?

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Like.

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Exactly.

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Like the kickoff.

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Basically.

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Like a tool that provides the context.

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And then, and then do you just on this, do you fire this off?

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It goes and does some stuff.

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And then do we just, we basically finished the task in here.

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We were like, we use the garden to kick things off,

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but now we're kind of in this for the rest of the task.

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Yes. It's like a manager for the agent.

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And, and.

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Okay, but this is kind of like what is happening in paperclip in some cases,

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like there's typically the, the CEO, or there's an agent who's like checking

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stuff.

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And then when he gets stuck, like they kind of keep pushing people along.

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Um, it tends to that way.

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It's it's, it basically does the whole thing and then comes back with the

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finished product instead of, you know, you sort of babysitting it the whole

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way.

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Yeah.

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No, I know.

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I know.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But I'm just saying for the, for the rest of us who I don't have this set

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up, um, and then yeah, and I see it found a two candidate repos.

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There's two, two different cause we just merged it.

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But, um, but then, okay, but that, uh, monitor loop, is that something that,

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uh, your first agent through the garden created that custom for this project or

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his monitor loop, like a general Janata monitoring MD file that you use for

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anything?

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Okay.

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Gotcha.

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So like all of my goals, like if you, like

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what's important to one, it's not, and basically depending on the task, it's

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able to decide and

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it's great.

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Like just reviewing them.

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And you're just

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itself.

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Yeah.

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And you, yeah, let's say, so you could have kicked off, you kicked off with

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Claude, that's the one you chose to use, but you could have kicked off with like

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a, a sort of dumber model if you wanted to, now that like, it's pretty well

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structured.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So if I come here to which is like the, I can just ask and it has like basically

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a copy of the repos and a copy of the vault.

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So basically

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got it.

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And it does the work.

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Okay.

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But

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okay.

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But you created a bunch of new stuff.

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Like, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

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you created a bunch of new stuff locally.

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How did the VPS, did you, did that sink or push?

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Like, did you

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okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Nice.

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These are like these little connection points that you just like, oh, and then

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it just starts.

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I was like, wait a minute.

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It didn't, how did it get the information?

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Um, that's great.

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And then, uh, okay.

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So you can kick it off anywhere.

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Um, that VPS that you showed in discord, is that open clause?

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It just, uh, just a VPS with like Claude running or it's a clone of your.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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But you would just hand it to it and it could basically just access all the same

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files.

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Um, you've given open claw, like full access to that VPS to do what it wants to

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do.

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Okay.

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Great.

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Yeah.

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It's awesome.

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Super cool.

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Very cool.

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Wow.

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So then, okay, cool.

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Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, that's, that's more or less Holland revenue.

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It wasn't like an expert.

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Very interesting.

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Cool.

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Business.

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Yeah.

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I'm sure that's a easily fixed to the prompt, but yeah.

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Oh,

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push.

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Because, like, all is like the way you would.

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Like some stuff.

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but i think like someone's using some part of the library

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yeah that's funny

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but the idea that's interesting this is something i've been asking a lot recently

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which is this idea of like uh

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if you do the excuse but you don't use only the excuse

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yeah

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why is like half this page in english and half of it in portuguese

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that's my main that's the problem

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okay

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sometimes i start a sentence in portuguese and i end it

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oh my gosh

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it's like

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so really we have no excuses when we're like you have like one more variable

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thrown into the mix um so

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um

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to create the agentic folder

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but this is like for when you are going to like a bigger approach

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you can use like this idea of like creating a team of agents because

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the idea is that i got myself

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i'm ready to just find cli's and

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what people are using

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and to be able to create

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and what this does is this kind of automates this process is

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search the internet

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that the models can use

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institute specific tasks for instance like

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you call one a model to manage my

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facebook ads like we can do this like right now i created like it's our team

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that managed my ads to load and see all the it managed the budgets and

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upload and create and change stuff so it's fun because i don't have to use

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the facebook ads interface anymore with like

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but like

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a team that will help you

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yeah okay

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no that's fine i mean i get it i just i wonder

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because you're passing all those instructions in both like like

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mixed languages so it's probably going to work much harder to like

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determine basically get the whole thing in a sing it doesn't matter which language just pick one

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um

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if i talk in portuguese

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translation layer yeah interesting well that's cool well this is good that's super helpful

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uh i'll yeah this is good we'll have to like share this with the team if you're okay with it

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awesome

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share

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it's very interesting

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yeah just

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about like

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right now it's just about like

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thinking

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right

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You see, like, I created this issue for, like,

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monitoring this part of the output memory,

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and it's a project default.

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In parallel, I have here another agent

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that's basically creating the same thing,

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but for the loose key migration.

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So you can see here, I have the projects,

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and it's like basically loading all the information

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to make it as powerful as possible for trying.

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So what I would do is I would do, like,

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the people who train machine learning,

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others call, like, dogfooding.

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So basically, I would say, okay,

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now I will do, like, a solution

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that is SDK in a way that will help

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me, like, monitor issues like this one

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that I already had mapped out.

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Got it.

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Yeah, try to see if what we're doing on project A

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is actually gonna be useful with what we did on project B.

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Yeah.

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Exactly, and they can cross-check this,

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so it becomes a way to check the guy,

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always avoid, like, it gets, like, into the problem.

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Yeah.

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And then, are you, is this all,

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are you using WorkTrees to do two,

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you're doing two projects at the same time,

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so WorkTrees, or are you just doing everything

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without that?

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Yeah, I usually do WorkTrees.

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In this case, both projects that we showed

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were, like, in research mode, let's say,

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so they were, like, just different folders

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inside the vault.

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There's no risk of, like,

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you know, something bad, but

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when I go to work,

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we show itself, and you look at it,

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so WorkTrees.

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Gotcha.

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At least it's on research.

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Like, not working two agents in the same project.

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Got it.

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So it's not different.

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Okay.

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So it's just in the same folder, basically.

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Awesome.

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Well, this has been great.

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I'm gonna pause the recording there,

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but this is, I'm sure everybody will have more questions,

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but this was very helpful because

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there's so many different ways to

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do all of this stuff,

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and so, like, just seeing, like,

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oh, it gives people a place to start.

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Like, oh, put the garden in this directory,

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you have the repo directory there.

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Like, structure it this way,

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and then this is one workflow,

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and everybody, you can use this as a starting point,

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and then the cool thing is you can just start

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customizing it from there to dial it in

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exactly how you want it, so

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very, very cool.

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Basically, what I'm showing you is just a copy and paste,

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and, like, it's a match of, like, all the different

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categories, and I got, like,

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also, I think I used, like,

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a lot of the fire stuff,

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but I didn't use it for notion.

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So the only work was with this model

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of the project server system,

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and how I just, like, made it available to the agent,

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and it's recognized this little part of the framework,

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because you can, like,

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also organize the agent directly.

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Awesome.

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Super cool.