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This is Professor Robyn Cosford. For those who don't know, she recently got recognised as a

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professor, which is very exciting. We are going live tomorrow with the Divine Health Summit

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with an amazing crew of people from all around the world. And Professor Robyn, how are you feeling?

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Fantastic. Thank you, Benji. Really looking forward to this and kicking off a whole new

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teaching movement, really. It's a big change for me to be doing it to bigger numbers, more people

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and, yeah, an ongoing thing rather than just a lecture here and there. It's great.

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Really looking forward to it. Yeah, it's very, very exciting. If you haven't

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yet jumped on board for the Divine Health Summit, then you want to make sure that you jump on board

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for that. You'll definitely want to be on the email list getting the updates of when all the

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sessions are happening. But they start tomorrow. The first one is 10am New Zealand time.

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Professor Robyn and myself and Jana will be live for the first session. There's going to be a whole

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bunch of transformational testimonies that people have just been able to come back from the brink

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of death and total dysfunction in their families. But Dr. Robyn, Professor Robyn,

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I should say, really, why don't we have a little teaser story? Why don't you tell people what

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happened when a kind of an accidental chemical bomb went off in your face?

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Yeah, I mean, I've got some phenomenal stories. I shouldn't be here. Incredible grace of God,

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I'm alive. So I nearly died three times. And one of those, as Benji touches on,

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was, and there are some moments in time you never think you know. So this was the 5th of July,

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2007. And I was in my surgery, nation table, end of the day, 8.15 at night, getting ready to go

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home. And there was a tin can on the end of the table that the staff had put there a little while

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before because they didn't know what it was. And they wanted me to suss it out. And I just hadn't

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got to it. I had a vague idea, but I hadn't got to it. And then suddenly, literally, as I was right

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next to it, this can tipped over. It had swollen, I noticed. It tipped over and blew a hole in the

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bottom of the can and sprayed a jet of foul green-smelling chemical directly at me. Of all

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the angles it could have sprayed, of all the seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks it could

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have done it, it did it that exact second that I was standing there and covered me in this foul

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green chemical, which started burning immediately. I screamed. There was one staff member still in

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the place. I said, chemical, throw in all the fans. We threw in all the extraction fans.

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I ran into the bathroom and started frantically, took off my jacket, which by that time was acid

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stained all around it, took off what I could take off, threw water all over me. And we just,

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and we moved the tin can into the sink and just left it in there and it kind of

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burnt holes in the sink. It was good stuff. Turned out it was two vials. We learned this the next day

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when we went back to the, you know, to sources. It was two vials, one with chloroform and the other

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with hydrochloric acid, high-strength hydrochloric acid. And the forensic chemists who analysed it

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later told us that the seals were faulty. And so these two things had mixed together inside the can

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and swollen the can. So I was sprayed with this combined jet of chemical, which again, the

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forensic chemists ended up saying he thought it was like, it turned out to be like phosgene, like

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World War I biogas. So yes, immediately, severely, violently ill, drove home in a semi-comatose type

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state. My nanny, when I got home, tells me that when I got home, I was very dazed. I was pale. I was

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not well. And my eyes, they said, were totally black. They said because my pupils are just

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massively dilated. Next morning, crazy, severe aches, violent vomiting. We were in the process

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of packing up house because I was going to be moving. The one room I hadn't packed was my

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reference library. I was too sick to move. I was just laid out vomiting. And so my big

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pharmaceutical text was sitting there. God put it on the heart of two of my girlfriends, one after

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the other, to come. And so the first one came and I said, OK, I want you to pretend that you're a

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doctor. You're ringing Poison's information. You've got someone who's walked into casualty with this

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story. Ring Poison's information. Tell them what we know. What do we do? And Poison's information

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basically said, well, there's nothing you can do except supportive. There was no treatment. There

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was no anything. They basically said you watch. So they were going to watch me go through kidney

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failure and then liver failure and die. So I was like, I don't like that idea. So instead,

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by this time, my next girl, my next.

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friend had come so I got her to drive me to my practice because I have intravenous vitamin C

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there. So we took I got my doctor who worked there at the time took blood my blood was literally

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black it didn't look like blood at all and we kept that and got it sent to pathology so that

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we could start to have some proof of what was happening the bloods and and he ran a 60 gram

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massive dose double normal dose intravenous vitamin C and on the back of that the vomiting

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stopped and I started to feel a little human still you know severe headaches went on so now

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the bloods that yep um one thing about vitamin C that I've discovered is that it's actually

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taken in solid doses it's actually quite the laxative isn't it that's right there's this

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thing there's this thing called bowel tolerance that that's right you take it until it uh hits

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that level of bowel tolerance so if someone's on the vitamin C be careful because you only want

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to take it till it's you hit that bowel tolerance after that you'll turn into a fountain of something

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that's right you take it about tolerance well this was intravenous because it is

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humanly physically impossible to take the doses that were being pumped into my veins

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by mouth so it had to be done intravenously um but yes oral vitamin C is a really if you need

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a bowel clean out that's one way to get a bowel clean out you know but it will boost your so yes

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so I had intra high dose intravenous vitamin c every day for I think it was six weeks now I'd

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have to go back and look at the results but it was daily except for weekends um you know for six

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weeks we what we tracked the bloods and watch the bloods go through acute kidney dysfunction

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acute liver dysfunction and and I know the old neighbor's got the weed whacker

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sorry about that I wasn't sure if you could hear it but he was going for it with the weed whacker

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was he no it wasn't a problem but um but yes and and we're throwing immediately into

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premature menopause so a lot of massive body changes six months after that such severe I

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couldn't function I was I was severe chronic fatigue syndrome but the biggest problem was

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was severe brain brain pain my brain was completely on fire like really on fire and um I had a PET

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scan done six months afterwards which which they reported they didn't even have to run it through

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the algorithms they eyeballed it and came and spoke to me and said it was like early onset

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Alzheimer's disease either that or it's still acute chemical poisoning either way

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it the effect on my brain was the same as Alzheimer's disease obviously I don't have that

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now you know um so so I know what it is to to literally have to come out of out of and that's

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that's one of my my three sort of death experiences the chemical one um that's probably the one that

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took the hardest the longest to to pull out of because it left me with a severe what we call

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neurocognitive chronic fatigue syndrome so um yeah a long way out of that affected my immune

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system affected my my eyes affected I had an unbelievable I call the kids used to call it

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the octopus rash this horrible rash all over my chest and body is the body the immune system in

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my body my skin was reacting to the chemicals it was a long long difficult ride out but but

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God is faithful God's gracious we you know we apply his rules we we use what he's got in his

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creation and and it works you know and so that was some of the for you what were some of the

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main keys of what did you incorporate into your daily rhythm into your life in order to come back

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from what people said initially you're just going to go into kidney failure and die and then after

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that they said okay well you've got Alzheimer's uh and what did you implement in your world as a

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lifestyle well I was already yeah I mean I was already doing doing things pretty solidly the

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right way anyway uh otherwise I would have died the second that you know within a day or two those

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chemicals hitting so I was already you know pretty pretty clean but certainly the the extra bits that

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I had to push into I started getting I couldn't do it myself but I I had people come in and make for

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me a big regular uh juice with with and the key ingredients for that beetroot which clears your

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blood celery which is a diuretic detox clearing so the and ginger which is your gut and so works

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with the other things so those were your key three things a little bit of carrot to make it taste

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better um so carrot celery no no apple and sweet yeah you had people come in because you said you

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couldn't do that why couldn't you do that were you laid out I could oh yeah I I could be I could

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literally I would not let myself stay in bed I was

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refused to do that.

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But we were in a split-level, virtually two-story house.

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And so I'd literally have to bum shuffle down the steps

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and bum shuffle myself out to the balcony.

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We had a balcony where I had fresh air

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was overlooking a backyard salt fountain pool thing.

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And I just lived there because I couldn't do much else.

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I was forced to the next step.

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I guess it was months.

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How long were you in there?

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Months?

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Months.

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It's all right to call it the bum shuffle phase?

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Yeah, the bum shuffle phase was months.

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But again, as I said, I refused to let myself

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stay in that state.

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Yeah, and or to stay still.

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So I used to be a swimmer anyway.

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So I would actually, I thought, okay, let's try the water.

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And so I would kind of bum shuffle myself.

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My pool was a salt chlorinated pool, minimal chlorine.

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In fact, we tried to run virtually no chlorine.

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It was heavily salted.

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And I found that even if I could just get into there,

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that made a little difference.

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Just while I was in the water.

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While I was in the water, I felt normal.

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I felt okay.

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And I thought, right, good.

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So sure, it did only buy me five minutes after.

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It didn't buy me long.

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So as I got a bit stronger,

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I then converted that to going down to the ocean.

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I didn't live far from the ocean then.

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Five minutes.

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When I was safe enough to drive, which did take a while,

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I then got myself down into the ocean.

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And again, I found that in the water,

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I would feel completely normal for while I was in the water.

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And that effect would last for a little while afterwards.

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And progressively that effect started lasting

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longer and longer, but my head had to get in the salt water.

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I had to put my head in the water

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to shut down the brain inflammation.

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So the super clean diet, the juicing,

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I was taking truckloads of supplements.

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There are key things that you need for brain inflammation

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and chemical and so on.

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So I was taking a lot of those.

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Let me just chuck this out there.

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So I mean, a couple of questions.

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Were you on any pharmaceuticals in that time?

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What were you-

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Oh, absolutely none.

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Not a one.

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I've not been on a pharmaceutical medication.

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Well, when I was in intensive care,

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trying hard not to, making sure I didn't die

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in intensive care, obviously in intensive care,

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you can't avoid drugs.

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But no, other than that, I've not had a pharmaceutical drug.

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Oh, well, aspirin is a semi-pharmaceutical.

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Aspirin is derived from white willow bark.

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It's what we call a semi-synthetic.

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But no, for years.

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Okay, so this whole time you're doing it naturally.

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You're doing it just-

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Like the juicing was a massive part of the process.

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Mindset was a massive part of the process.

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Mindset was absolutely key.

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I mean, I think that's always gonna be the foundation

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of anything, isn't it?

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Because without a mindset,

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your mindset's gonna determine every single action

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that you take, whether it's gonna be positive or negative.

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So interesting though, just about supplements,

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because people always talk about,

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oh, supplements are expensive.

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And sometimes supplements are expensive,

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but for you, what were they the difference between?

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You know, like when you were choosing supplements

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and whatever you had to pay for supplements,

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what were you choosing between?

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Well, for me, the bottom line thing was,

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again, remembering I was already an experienced clinician.

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I'd already helped a lot of people

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out of chronic fatigue syndrome.

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In fact, I'd been through it myself once before already.

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I know the value of these things.

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So kind of wasn't a choice of that or not.

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It was simply a case of, I have to get my health back.

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I was a sole supporting parent, mom with three young children.

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I had to get my health back.

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I had to be there for my kids.

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I had to be able to be earning.

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So, you know, it was a no-brainer.

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It had to be done.

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So the pharmaceuticals, there is no, in standard medicine,

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there is no treatment, no cure for chronic fatigue syndrome.

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There was nothing that could be offered me.

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You know, and I know in my medical hat,

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you know, I know that to be the case.

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So this was the option.

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This was the way to go.

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And so I threw at it everything I could throw at it.

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The other baseline thing that, again, kind of doesn't cost,

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so coming back to the kind of the,

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so that's why I started with the kind of

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not so much cost stuff.

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I went and learned how,

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so we've got a lot of studies into movement

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and a lot of studies around things like Tai Chi and Qi Gong.

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Now, of course, a lot of Christians

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don't want to touch that

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because of the background spiritual stuff

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that it's, that has come from.

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But you don't have to evoke that.

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After all, God is the one.

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created movement and the breath of life that we're breathing in is God's breath of life. We just have

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to make sure that's what we're asking. So I actually employed a Qi Gong master and because I wasn't

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well enough to go to classes, I couldn't physically get there, I couldn't stand around and wait, I

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couldn't do all of that. So I employed a Qi Gong master and I picked that one little window of

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time of day where I figured I'd have the best chance so I'd actually be functional. I'd have

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to break through stuff and usually by about two or three I'd get a window or two that of hour or

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two that I could use. So I employed him in that time frame and had, I forget how many lessons,

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but enough for me because I'm an ex-dancer so I know how to move. So enough lessons for me to

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learn the movements and then I just did it myself in my own time. So movement, the ocean,

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obviously pure clean water, organic food, vegetable juicing and that was kind of the,

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you know, and very clearly, absolutely mindset. I had to work so hard because your mind, my whole

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body was screaming at me, pain, pain, pain, this is hopeless, this is useless, you can't even move,

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how are you going to provide for your children? There's no hope for this. That's what my whole

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system was screaming at me. But I had to choose for myself in a place that said, no, sure I feel

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like this right now, but every day in every way I'm getting better and better. I am coming out of

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this, I'm going to come out of this. And coming out of anything like that is always, as I'm always

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saying to my patients, it's never just a straight road up, never ever, ever just a straight road up.

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It'll be up, thump, up, thump. But each one of those dips that we go through are not as deep

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or as wide as they were before. So you find you come out to a better level than you were.

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And so it's the progressive upward journey. So yeah, a long process. And there are still

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issues from that I have to make sure I still keep covered. I watch that don't come back to bite me.

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Absolutely. Now, if you'd gone to a regular doctor when you're at that point,

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say when you're in that space of chronic fatigue and you could barely get out of bed,

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if you'd gone to a regular doctor, what would they have said to you? And what would their

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prognosis have been?

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They would have just, I would have been given painkillers for the headaches. I would have been

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given an antidepressant too, because it's the other thing that happens as a secondary effect

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when your energy levels are so low is that the mind gets depressed. They would have given me

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an antidepressant to stop the depression. And there would have been no hope for recovery basically.

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Anything for the chronic fatigue? Can they give you anything?

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They can't. As I said, it'll be just if the body's aching too much, you take small painkillers for

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the pain and you have an antidepressant. And that's pretty much about it.

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And then you just get chucked on the pile of people who are going to, there's no hope for you.

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And I mean, in your practice, how often do you get people who've just been chewed up and spat

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out by the medical system that has a pretty narrow playbook and they've just been chewed up,

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spat out. They didn't feel like, I mean, my sisters, for example, had endometriosis and they

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were forever being told that it was in their head. Just like they spent their whole life

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going to specialists and forever being told this is just in your head and just forever being

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mistreated and rudely abused by doctors when they said, Hey, I know there's something going on. This

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is not in my head. And the doctor looked at them like they were crazy and said, this is all in your

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head. And they, until they eventually found a specialist in that area who was on it, this is

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what's going on. But how often are you finding people who just can't be treated by the narrow

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playbook? All the time. Every second patient, if not almost every patient, it is the usual story,

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sadly. And as you say, it's largely because the whole training of the medical profession is geared

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around, well, let's find what your symptoms, what box the symptoms fit in, what's the pharmaceutical

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that fits that box? And so if we can't particularly find another box, will you go in the

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psychogenic box as in it's all in your head, as in it's made up. And so we'll give you an

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antidepressant or a drug for the psychogenic symptoms. Mind you, I'm often saying to my

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patients, well, yes, it is in your head, but that doesn't mean you've made it up. It's in your head

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because your brain's inflamed because we've got more and more people now who are getting brain

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inflammation and actual brain function. So yes, for them, it is in their head, but they're not

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imagining it. So...

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Yeah, it's a very real problem, a very real issue and so that's why we have to come back

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and we have to look at what are the ways that we can both, not just treat things when they

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happen but do a much better job of improving our background health and our background capacity

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so that if something does happen we recover quicker and faster and more completely.

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So it's always going to be key whether you're in great health or in poor health to be mastering

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a rhythm that's going to produce divine health because you're right, a health blindside can

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come at any moment just like you had, you know like out of nowhere a chemical explosion

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goes off in your face and if it hadn't been for the fact that you'd been building your

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life on a rhythm of divine health, that could have been very well been the end of you.

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Yeah, well that was the devil's plan no doubt, I mean you know.

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So for just, I mean there might be people listening now or people who are listening

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in the future to this, who have been treated up, spat out, they feel like there's no hope

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for them, they're in that place where they're kind of like ah man I've got this issue, I've

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got this injury, I've got this illness, I don't think it's ever going away.

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What would you say, like is it possible, is there a solution for the people who've been

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thrown on the heap?

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You know there is always hope.

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I'm at that stage, well I can't really say my career now because legally, strictly speaking

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I can't treat people, doesn't mean I can't advise but I can't treat people anymore, but

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I'm at that stage where I really believe that there's not a single condition, no matter

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what it is, that we can't significantly impact on, even if we can't cure it, mind you God

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of course can heal anything.

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Some people need a full on creative miracle and that's in the hands of the Lord.

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And that's cool as well, actually tomorrow we have a healing meeting as well with Matt

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Lansdowne who, it's going to be pretty exciting hearing some of his stories and for those

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who do need a miracle then that's going to be a great space to come.

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Tomorrow we're going to have a whole bunch of the supernatural action going on as well

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so if you need a miracle, well then hey, we deal in miracles too, that's the kingdom.

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And if you're just in a place where you've been thrown out by the medical crew, you're

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saying that pretty much anything can be treated in some way.

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Yeah, absolutely, I totally, through both the intensity of my experiences, my own personal

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health experiences as I should have been killed a number of times, but also what I have seen

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and been able to pull patients out of.

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Time can be a limit, if they're facing an operation, an urgent operation, it's kind

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of like, well, okay, we've got to buy, we need a bit of time.

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Certainly, surgery is irreversible, people need to bear that in mind.

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If you're looking at surgery as your solution for something, bear in mind it is irreversible.

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If something's chopped out, we can't put it back in.

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If something is cut and altered and put in another way, it's very, very hard to repair

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or alter what happens at surgery, so that has to be an absolute, and there are places

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for it, I'm not going to say there aren't, but that has to be an absolute last ditch.

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Not a first port of call, as it often is in our modern society, that should be last ditch,

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we do all we can first, and there's so much you can do.

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All right, hey, well, thanks very much for that, and we're looking forward to, first

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up tomorrow, hearing from Jana, and that's a really phenomenal story of just how God

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brought their family back from the brink of total dysfunction, it's going to be really

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amazing hearing the process, hearing the journey, and what worked for them, and you're going

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to hear over the next several days a whole lot of stories of what's been working for

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people to bring them massive transformation in health, recovery from injuries, bring them

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back from the brink of total dysfunction and chaos in the health space of their life, so

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it's going to be a really exciting time together, so I look forward to seeing you guys in the

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Health Summit, I'll drop the link to jump on board for the Health Summit in the description

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of this video once we wrap it up, and we'll look forward to seeing a bunch of you as we

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go live tomorrow, 10am New Zealand time for the first one, and then watch your emails,

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we've got 10 sessions over 4 days, and when you click the link that I drop in the description

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in just a moment, if you're watching this in the future it'll already be there, but

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when you click the link there you can see when the

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when the sessions are on and also just watch your emails because I'll send you the links to jump on

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board for all the sessions. Most of them will be streaming here on Facebook as well but we will

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have some of the content restricted to some private access because it won't be well received

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by Facebook world so we'll just in terms of the algorithms won't let us say some of the things

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we want to say so some of it will be private so you watch this space and we're going to have a

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really really fantastic time together. Any closing words Professor Robin as we wrap it up?

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Looking forward to this and kicking off new things for hopefully a lot of people

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so blessings yeah. Oh hey let me quickly do a screen share just to if you haven't seen

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this is the crew oh hang on let me get a I got another image let me get another image that's

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better there we go here's my desktop all busy from prepping the summit here we go so this is

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the crew all right so Professor Robin and Jana and I live tomorrow and then we've got a healing

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meeting with Matt at 1pm New Zealand time tomorrow and then Professor Robin's live

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doing a one-on-one session with you guys just just herself with her three key points to the

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series and then we've got a whole bunch of other goodness we've got Rani we've got Daniel and

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Sabrina we've got Gabriel and we've got Joseph it's going to be fantastic and I look forward

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to sharing this beautiful adventure with all of you guys so have a wonderful day everyone

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and we'll see you in the summit tomorrow yeah blessing bye bye guys