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Okay, fam. I believe we are live now. I think that's working. Yes. So let's just check this

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and see that we're live. Oh, yes, yes, yes. That is good chicken. Good to see. Hey, everyone.

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Massive welcome to everyone and massive welcome to the man, Ricky Paul. So good to be with

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you, bud. How are you doing? Yeah, yeah. Doing good. Thanks, bro. It's been awesome. Just

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chilling in Rotorua and yeah, ready to get this get the show rolling. Oh, get the show

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rolling. That's exciting. We have we've had to be a little bit dynamic on our on our sessions

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today and our tech today. If I touch anything now, Facebook says you're banned. You're naughty.

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You're in the naughty corner. But that's that's OK to be in the naughty corner just

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for loving Jesus or valuing freedom. And Ricky, honestly, just so stoked to be with you. So

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stoked for everything that's happening in your world. And be great if you want to pray

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for us and then we'll we'll get it get it get it on. So it is. So, father, we just thank

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you that you're here. We just thank you that you're amazing. And just thank you for every

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person that's pressing in, that's tuning in live right now for those who are about to

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watch the sessions in the near future. We just pray a massive blessing upon everyone

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right now and even people who are needing healing in their backs. Jesus, we just pray

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right now that backs be healed in your precious name. Just come sit in this meeting, Holy

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Spirit. And do you unleash your name? Amen. Amen. Amen. Well, family, for those who don't

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know Ricky yet, I'm going to say you're in for an absolute treat. So I think this is

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your first time connecting with Ricky. So you're in for a real treat here as well. But

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I just I'm just thinking a great way to start this chat would be would be kind of going back

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into the day of how I first ever heard about Ricky Paul was back in the day. And I don't even know

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if this group exists anymore. But do you remember the group Glory Dots? That's right. Yeah, Facebook

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group Glory Dots. It was a pretty cool group. And it was just basically a Facebook group for people

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in New Zealand who were hosting miracles and just seeing God doing cool miracles. And so we're

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posting in their job and miracles. And it's like, well, who's this Ricky Paul guy with the craziest

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miracle stories ever? And so it's just just it was a fun group. It connected a lot of us

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Kiwi revivalists around the country. But I thought it'd be really cool to start

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just by hearing like a classic one of your stories that just they were just I mean,

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they just lit me up. I just have you got a classic story that comes to mind of just seeing

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God at work in your town? Because what we're going to do is going to go on a journey of just

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seeing God at work in your life and the music industry. But you got one that stands out.

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Um, yeah, I think first when it comes to mine, what happened was, I was overseeing an alternative

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education school of some sort. And whilst doing it, there's this young, young teenager dude,

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or there's a whole group of young boys, teenage boys. And yeah, you know, that, you know, all

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for the mongomob. Kawerau is a red town, mongomob gang affiliated town. And yeah, what happened was,

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I was a bit more raw then, like just busting words of knowledge on anyone and everyone that,

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you know, I just, I had a different lens back then where I just wanted to tick off, you know,

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God, yeah, I accomplished my works, you know, five words of knowledge, and I was just works based

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going for the works based acceptance type of model. And yeah, so there's this group,

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and there's one guy would always trash me. So he's like, Oh, no, your God's not real,

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your God's not real, all that stuff. No, no, he is real. He is real, bro.

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This kept going on for a number of weeks. And what happened was,

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um, the boys start, they wanted to have a showdown type of thing. I'm reading hard,

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I'm reading Elijah and all that stuff with the prophets at that time. And so I go to school,

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or to the class, and the boys like, Oh, Rick, your God's not even real.

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Tawhirimatea, which in New Zealand, well, there's overseas.

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is the god of wind to the native people.

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And so what happens is they're like,

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Tāwhirimātea is way better.

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The god of wind's way better than your god.

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And so I said, oh, yeah, yeah,

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but that Tāwhirimātea, the god of wind,

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only blows wind, you know,

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or farting, as we'll call it in New Zealand and stuff.

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And he goes, so I said,

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that's the only wind he's good at blowing,

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is out his bottom.

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So they're, whatever, whatever, whatever.

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So one of them goes,

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I bet you that your god can never,

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you won't show up in wind type of thing.

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So I said, oh, okay.

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So I told the guys to close all the doors,

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close all the windows, close everything up

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so there's no wind or breeze coming through,

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turn the air conditioning unit off.

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So I asked them, six of them,

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can you guys feel any wind or breeze?

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They're like, nah, nah, nah.

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So I said, okay, you call upon your god, Tāwhirimātea,

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and ask him to blow wind in the class

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and we'll see if he shows up.

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So they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So they go, Tāwhirimātea, blow wind, blow wind,

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we tell you to blow wind.

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All this stuff, they're doing it,

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screaming, yelling, and I was just giggling away.

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I look quite cute, actually.

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So they're doing all that, yelling out and that.

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And I was like, bro, I can't, I can't feel it.

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I can't feel it.

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And so that goes on for what felt like a minute or two.

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Then they go, oh, you, they're getting angry.

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You ask your god to do it.

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So I just, I said, bro, go up on that stage.

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There's a little miniature stage

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in the corner of the community center

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or the classroom at the time.

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So I get them to go up on the stage.

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And so I just say, you know, Jesus, just, you know,

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blow a bit of wind in here type of thing.

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And then all of us start feeling this breeze

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going around our legs.

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And three of them, three of the five or six boys

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just start going, whoa, I can feel it, I can feel it.

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But the boy just hardens his heart.

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So he's like, I can't feel nothing.

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Nah, nah, I can't feel nothing.

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And so if some of them are like, yeah.

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So they sort of throw it off too,

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because you're sort of like the leader of the group.

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So they sort of shove it to the side.

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Nah, nah, nah, actually, we can't feel nothing.

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I was like, you fellas are lying, you fellas are lying.

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You can feel that.

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So what happens is I say, do it again then.

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So they do it, nothing happens.

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And then in the spirit, I feel,

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I see an angel flying up over me,

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and I felt the angel internally say to me,

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move out of the way.

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So I said, boys, there's an angel coming.

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So I move out of the way,

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and a gush of wind just goes, whoa,

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through the youth centre, through the classroom.

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And most of them feel it.

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I think he's still felt it,

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but he was just in denial way.

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So he's like, nah, nah, nah, I didn't feel nothing.

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And the boys are like, nah, nah, we felt something, bro.

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So he talks them out of their experience and stuff.

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So he sort of hardens his heart.

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Fast track two weeks or so down,

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and what happens is he gets caught up in that.

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He steals a motorbike, this boy,

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and he's in a mad police chase during school,

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I think it is from memory.

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And what happened is he's going around town.

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The cops catch him, but he's so full of adrenaline,

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he tries to jump this area on the road,

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and a logging truck comes and smashes him.

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But he goes flying in the air, falls off,

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basically paralyzes himself from,

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And so two weeks go on,

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and my boss at the time in the organisation

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is a bit edgy because of all the miracles

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that are happening, and she doesn't want to bow to God.

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So they keep telling you,

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oh, that fella keeps praying for us,

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he keeps praying for us.

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So I keep getting warnings,

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you're not to pray for people, not to pray for people.

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I'm like, they asked for it, I'm not forcing it,

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you know, nothing.

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And so what happens is the young guy calls my boss

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and says, can Rikki come and pray for me

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in the hospital during work?

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So she comes up to me and she goes,

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Rikki, again, I won't name him.

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The young guy would like you to go and pray for him.

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I was like, oh, for real?

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And she goes, yeah, like during work,

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this is the only time I'll let you pray for a client,

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but that's only because he requested it.

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I hope you didn't influence it.

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I said, no, I haven't even talked to him.

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So I go out there, go to the hospital.

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As soon as I'm in there, for some reason,

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I've never really prayed like this.

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I felt a little, I don't know,

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I wouldn't know the feeling,

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a bit firm and a bit, not stubborn,

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but a bit staunch in the faith.

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So he's looking at me,

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he starts explaining his mother's there.

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She just says, you know,

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he's paralyzed from the waist down.

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He would love for you to pray for him.

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So then I look at him and I call him by name

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and I say, I thought the guy that I prayed to is his name.

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isn't real. And he looks at me and he cries. And then he just

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says, I think he is real. And I, for some reason, I just Yeah, I

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just was a bit firm with him. And I just said, Why is he real?

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And he just said, I because all the stories that I hear around

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town, like when you pray for people, things happen. And then

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he starts weeping. And then I see Jesus in the spirit on the

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opposite side of his bed. And I say, Well, Jesus and I, yeah, I

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would have came across rude if I was watching it. If I was him,

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you know, like, and I just said to him, Jesus on the other side

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of your bread, what beard? Why don't you tell him what you

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want? And so he just starts weeping. And there's probably

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one of the most emotional prayers. I've got prayers I've

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ever witnessed. And he starts crying. And he just goes, he's

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just sobbing, Jesus, I'm sorry for what I've done. I'm such a

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bad kid. I know you probably won't want to heal me. But

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Jesus, I want to be able to play with my friends. I want to be

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able to run around. I want to be able to ride motorbikes again.

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And if you can do that for me, I'll believe you're real. And

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it's just stops. And then I say, Is that your prayer? What you

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know to him? And he goes, Yep. I put my hand on his head. And

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then I just say, Lord, I agree with him. And then I felt

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massive electricity just through my hand, goes through his head

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right down to his neck, and his legs start shaking, crying and

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stuff like, and he's like, I can feel my legs, I can feel my

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legs, I can feel my legs. So he starts buzzing out. And I, his

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mum came in, she's weeping, saying thank you and all that.

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And I feel to leave them. So just say, you know, call him by

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name, just letting you know, I'll see you back at school. And

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then within two, three weeks, he was in a wheelchair, but they

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just slowly built him up. And then, uh, yeah, he just, he's

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walking now. Mischief, mischief went back to his old ways. But

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you know, like, he, he can't deny that God moves and moves

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in power. And so he tried to mock the youth again, when I was

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youth pastoring at the time and just said, Rick, God's not real.

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And then I just stopped him and just said, Bro, you remember

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what happened to you? And then he goes, Oh, yeah, no, he's

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real. He's real. You can stay in there. Like you'd always mock

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the church kids. Yeah. You guys are all right. You guys are

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right. That's the first one that came to my mind. Yeah. So

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I'm awesome. So cool. Yeah. So cool. Wow. So yeah, um, I, I

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hear stories that that, you know, these miracle stories

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hasn't haven't really stopped. Like, yeah, across your journey.

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So and even even into recording studios and, and things like

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that, you want to, you know, let us in on what's recording

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studios and all the all the inner workings? What's happening

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right now?

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Yeah, yeah. So obviously, yeah, for those who don't know, yeah,

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work in the recording industry. Yeah. Sorry, Ben. Yeah, I was

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just gonna say just kind of, as you're starting that be great,

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great space now just to kind of share your what you're doing in

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the industry. And then also tell us about your album. That's

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about to drop and, and how you know, like, what's the results

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of it? What's happening with it? There's a lot of buzz around at

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the moment. So be cool just to hear that and then hear as well

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what's been doing in the studio.

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Yeah, so I don't want to chew too much of the time. But in the

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last five years, Benji is well aware as many of my close mates

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and it's public, I share the testimony, but it'll just chew

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so much of the time. But basically, I had a crazy rough

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patch, just morally foul made a fool of myself, but held myself

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accountable. And just journey that whole process. And coming

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out of that, before COVID hit, I was struggling to find a job,

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like some people and in that I just cried and I said, God, I, I

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got no skill, you know, all I know how to do is teach and

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preach and all that stuff. But because I'd stood down from

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ministry and was on a journey of healing, and reconciliation,

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restoration and all that stuff. I just knew it wasn't time for

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that. And so I just said, God, the only thing I know how to do

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is make beats. And so if you can use that, and you open the doors

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up for that, I'll just jump in on that and literally in three

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seconds, like, straight immediately, my phone goes off

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and a guy, a very famous guy in the New Zealand music industry

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says, is this Ricky Paul? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was

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actually in a tearful, quite a heartfelt moment with the world.

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So it was that fast. I was doing it, I was trying to like, oh,

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yeah, yeah, yeah.

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this is right yep yep yep the manly voice back on so oh i'm just letting you know we've got a brand

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new artist who's about to blow up in new zealand and your name running around in the circles that

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you're the best and so we'd love for you to come in and produce the guy's single so fly out there

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and i'm a bit nervous and um yeah so what happens is that he just as soon as we get to the recording

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studio i'm thinking it's a done deal but he says to me you've got to play you just if you can play

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three beats if we don't like any of those three beats that you play um you're on the next flight

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home because money is time and we can't afford to sit around listening to beats and all that

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stuff we'll do and so i'm nervous and i'm like oh for real so i'm laughing i'm giggling i'm thinking

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they're being sarcastic i mean you know playing their old jokes but the guy looks at me and goes

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nah like for real if you haven't got the heat or the fire or the beats the good beats then

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you're on the next flight so i was like oh sorry i thought you were joking so like no no time's

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money time's money so i'm like oh just so i'm while i'm processing that and setting up i'm

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asking god for wisdom and so i just i just felt to ask him hey um can you just play me what you've

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already got because i've got thousands of instrumentals of beats and i don't you know i

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could play a country western song but you're going for a techno album so if you just show me

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what you've got then i'll be able to i guess narrow down my beats of choice so he does it

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within five seconds i'm like yeah cool sweet i'll play the first one the um recording studio everyone

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in the recording studio is oh you know losing it and then guys are you'll play the next one

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i just want i just think you've fluked it you know like so i play the next one

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and uh everyone just goes nuts again play another one third one everyone goes nuts again and then

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uh the guy the manager the artist manager goes up because the guy had already the artist had

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already finished the album and i was only coming in to do the single so he grabs a vivid and puts

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a vivid right through the whole thing and then he says we're doing a whole a brand new album and

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you're producing the entire thing right now come on so you've got a whole week to make an album so

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technically we did it in a day and a half and that won him an award and uh opened up a few more

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doors for me locally and yeah so that's how i sort of got back in yeah yeah class tracking oh man

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that's that's wild and um yeah so if we just jump back to sam's question as well you've been in the

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space now or even actually your your album now like let's hit that like what's happening with

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your album now sounds like there's lots of buzz i just bought a vinyl which is kind of cool

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um pretty stoked on that yeah yeah so um so i went i went uh the album's probably about two

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years old for me so it's taken a while and um for those who don't know like how i because i

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always get told even when i became a christian earlier because i used to make music for famous

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people even before i become a christian but the church that i attended at the time they had the

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theology that oh you know um mindset that oh right you gotta lay that down at the altar and burn all

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that and um you're making the devil's music so and that's all i knew you know so i was like okay

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cool yeah i don't want to make the devil's music and so so all that to say is i started getting

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bombed with that but then i just um i think it was danny silk uh from bethel reading bethel

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california and so um i just heard a bit of message that sort of set me free and

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i just went hardcore and basically he just said if you love making music it wasn't to me

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personally but uh it was just a podcast i think if you love making music or you're a producer

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um oh you know and you want to make music for whoever snoop dogg and all that stuff then go

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do it and he didn't say snoop dogg but worldly artists secular artists and so i thought oh whoa

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christian's allowed to do that so um i just basically had went for a massive journey of

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healing in that and walking that out and so i just jumped straight and throw it straight over the edge

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and so uh part i guess part of the journey was me learning how to navigate our poor says that

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you're both the king and the priest and so um you know realizing what your priestly role is to the

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church to the body of christ which to me even though i haven't preached uh much over the last

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four or five years that is definitely i guess my gift that i have towards the body of christ the

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way that i serve the body of christ but in the marketplace or in extending the kingdom

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uh and my kingly role uh is the music industry and so

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So everything I do there may look devilish,

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even the cover, because it's a black on black cover.

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So I've had some Christian mates say,

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oh man, black on black, that's so evil.

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It looks so dark and it gives me a freaky feeling.

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I'm like, oh man, so that's a whole nother topic.

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I can do a whole sermon just on all that stuff.

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But yeah, so basically I went in,

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it's called the golden era and the golden era,

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for those who don't know,

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hip hop is a 90s, 2000s sound.

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And I just felt God say that he wanted me

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to revive the golden era.

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And so I just jumped in and caught it,

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the golden era, season one, the golden era album.

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I even caught it, you know,

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that and so just finding the golden people.

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And so I just honed in on that and a lot of artists.

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And I have a lot of international artists on the album,

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but I took them off because I felt God say,

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I wanted you to start with the New Zealanders.

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Go and find what they call the legends in rap or hip hop

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from the 90s, 2000s and revive them.

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So I just went on a massive mission to get them,

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which it's very hard to collect those.

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And so people in hip hop, that's where the hype is

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because it's quite a hard album,

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near impossible album to pull off in New Zealand

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with those names on there.

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And so I've just had massive favor in doing that,

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but yeah, that's called the golden era.

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And so God, like a lot of other Christians,

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has just been speaking to me,

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downloading Revelation to me via the whole 2-2,

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the Kia David stuff and, you know,

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magic on that.

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It's due to be released, isn't it?

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On Tuesday, right?

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Which is the 22nd of the 2nd, 2022?

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Yeah, 2-2, 2-2-2.

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Here's a fun thing,

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is that we're booked in for a C-section.

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We're booked in for a C-section for Alana

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on Tuesday as well.

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Oh, wow, wow.

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Oh, that's crazy.

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Yeah, so that's kind of exciting.

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I've been thinking about your date there as well

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as we've kind of been building towards that.

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Yeah, I was pretty dumb because like,

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oh, it's cool at the same time.

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Kanye's decided to drop his album

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on the 22nd of the 2nd, 2022, you know?

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Ah.

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So I'm trying to,

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I'm lucky that New Zealand is like 16 hours

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or whatever it is ahead of them.

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So I may go, stay, go number one for like 10 hours

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and then he'll just swipe me off.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But it's cool, yeah.

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So that's the golden era.

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And going back to Seb's question,

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in amongst those recording sessions,

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I've sat down with a lot of the artists

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and a lot of them are gang members and stuff.

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And real, they can come across,

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some of them are real street guys,

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like actual gangsters that get into the whole,

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try not to divulge, you know,

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but shooting and stuff and real crime.

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And I've just had to learn how to navigate in that too

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when I was sitting around people who just pulling out,

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cocaine and large amounts of money and guns and stuff.

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And so, yeah, I just, one, I don't act like a gangster.

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Two, I know I'm not a gangster and I just keep it music,

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but it's awesome because a lot of them always ask,

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and it's quite an organic thing

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as we're back in the days or several years ago,

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I would always go in there again with the whole,

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oh, I've got to see God move.

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And, you know, sort of force something with the gift.

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And yeah, but they just come in natural and just,

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hey bro, like, what are you doing on the weekends?

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You know, like, do you go to the strippers or something?

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I'm like, nah, bro, nah, I don't do that.

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Oh, well, what do you do?

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I just, oh, I go to church and stuff.

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Hey, for real.

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And so they'll just give their whole view of God

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or the slave master.

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So yeah, a different God, if we put it that way,

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but their view of him.

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And so it's just amazing that God would just put me

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in that place.

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And by then, usually I'll just, you know,

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with wisdom, kindness, just say,

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hey bro, you're just letting you know

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that that's the wrong, that's a different God, bro.

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Like, you know, that's,

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you and I are talking about a different God.

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And so then I talked to him about,

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told him about Jesus and, you know,

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if you haven't seen Jesus say it, do it,

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then it's not from God.

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So I just give them a little,

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the difference between him and the prophets

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or him and Moses and those under the law.

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And just sort of, it's crazy.

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Like a couple of my mates,

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one of them is watching now,

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he's an Indian.

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engineer, recording engineer.

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Yeah, hey, bro, I don't want to call him out.

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You know who you are? And so, yeah, so he would go into the

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sessions after me on some of them with these. I don't even

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like calling them gang members, but artists. And so you just

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say, bro, they're talking about God and how God is kind. And

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he's different to how our dads raised us, you know, even though

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they'll give us a hiding and all that stuff. So it's really cool

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to see God do that. But I've been in other sessions where God

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will break out by healings. And there was one where I was asked

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to produce a movie soundtrack, a big movie soundtrack. And so as

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I went into the recording session to produce, someone as a

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joke just said, Oh, this guy was a pastor, get him to pray. And

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so I was like, Oh, yeah. So I sort of quickly pounced on it.

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So so yeah, I'll pray. Okay, everyone take your hats off.

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So they took their hats off. And so you had two CEOs of, I won't

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say which labels, but very big labels. You hit one of the guys

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who's part of the director's team and all this stuff, because

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they wanted the movie obviously, to match the visuals and the

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soundtrack to match all this and all that. So they all took their

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hats off. And so I was a bit shocked. I was sort of joking.

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So they all got their hats off. I've got the photo on my phone.

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But some people will know who a lot of these people are if I

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show the photo. And so I just closed my eyes. And I just

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prayed what I would think is a normal prayer. So Holy Spirit

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come. And to be honest, I just try to do a generic one. Because

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it caught me off guard that they were that easy to, you know,

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sort of like, set up for prayer. So be set for prayer. So I just

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said, Jesus, I just pray that you come, you know, that you

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guide all the musicians that we have an amazing thing that the

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movie does well, and all that. And one guy starts crying. And

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he's a famous thing. And he just starts saying, man, I haven't

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felt that feeling since Sunday school, when I used to go to

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Sunday school as a kid, I don't believe in God now. But when I

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was in Sunday school, it's that same feeling. My parents went to

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this whole like talking with this funny language like

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tongues. So another guy goes, another artist goes, I've heard

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this stuff. So I'm sitting there, and I'm not really

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engaging. I'm just sort of, again, still buzzing out there.

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They let me pray for the session. And so another artist

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comes in, he walks in. And he just looks around and people are

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just still talking about the language. And he just goes,

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yo, this feels like a church in here. But what's been going on

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there just feels like a church. My mom's a pastor. So this guy

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and I didn't even know the guy was a pastor. He goes, I was a

455
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:57.760
pastor. It feels like a church. And it feels like one of those

456
00:27:57.760 --> 00:27:59.760
ones where people fall over one of those churches.

457
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:05.360
So I'm just sitting there. And so one guy goes, Oh, you know,

458
00:28:05.360 --> 00:28:08.080
since you were a pastor and all that stuff, like, what are we

459
00:28:08.080 --> 00:28:11.280
feeling? So I just start talking about the Holy Spirit and all

460
00:28:11.280 --> 00:28:15.120
that stuff. So we're meant to start recording around 10

461
00:28:15.120 --> 00:28:18.320
o'clock. It's nine, we didn't stop talking about God till

462
00:28:18.320 --> 00:28:23.200
about 1130. And then what happened is one of the artists

463
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.480
goes out for smoke. And we're meant to do this hardcore

464
00:28:27.360 --> 00:28:30.560
swearing track, you know, like quite an explicit type of track

465
00:28:30.560 --> 00:28:33.280
is what they wanted for the certain scene, or the end of the

466
00:28:33.280 --> 00:28:37.840
film, I think for the score or whatever. And so the guy comes

467
00:28:37.840 --> 00:28:40.240
back and he comes, he walks in and goes, I think I've got the

468
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:43.840
chorus in 10 minutes. So he goes in there and he starts singing.

469
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:47.920
I don't really want to sing it too, because some people might

470
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.200
go, Oh, he's talking about this guy and all these people. So

471
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:56.800
he starts singing basically about God. And he starts talking

472
00:28:56.800 --> 00:29:01.280
about how he had a moment in his life where God felt like God

473
00:29:01.280 --> 00:29:05.200
wasn't there. But if anything, he's here closer than what we

474
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:09.760
think, top of the thing. He hasn't felt that since Sunday

475
00:29:09.760 --> 00:29:12.080
school, he was the first one that identified that God wasn't

476
00:29:12.080 --> 00:29:17.520
out something. And so he starts weeping and other guy, the big

477
00:29:17.520 --> 00:29:22.000
one of the big CEOs walks in the main guy of this big record

478
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.040
company in Australasia, New Zealand, Australia, all that

479
00:29:25.040 --> 00:29:28.640
stuff, Southern Hemisphere. He comes in because it's the first

480
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:32.640
movie to come out of this, you know, with a big multi million

481
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:36.720
dollar budget of this sort around music. And so he walks

482
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:41.840
in. And some people, the guy, the other producer that was in

483
00:29:41.840 --> 00:29:44.480
the room said he'll probably trash it because it's talking

484
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.520
about God. And I was like, Yeah, and I naturally thought,

485
00:29:47.520 --> 00:29:52.400
Oh, yeah, they probably won't. So he walks in, and he hears

486
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:55.200
the chorus going over and over. And he starts going off by

487
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:59.840
bombing his head. That's a smash. That's a hit. That's going

488
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.600
on the movie and that's going to be right at the very end because it sounds like it's a good way

489
00:30:03.600 --> 00:30:08.400
and a happy way to wrap the movie up and all this stuff and so he just goes yeah we're going to make

490
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:17.520
that a uh like a single or single and um yeah so it just yeah we just see god do amazing things so

491
00:30:17.520 --> 00:30:23.760
whenever those guys get me in now they always want me to um pray this is actually one of them

492
00:30:23.760 --> 00:30:32.400
morning is that coming through yeah oh it's all done oh yeah it is coming through now

493
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.600
i'll just sorry mate

494
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.640
there's one of the guys there actually yeah that's hilarious that's so cool man

495
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:45.680
you're talking about me bro

496
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:57.440
sure totally yeah so yeah so just see god move healings get some international uh people uh

497
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:04.000
artists uh when i meet them in new zealand and stuff we'll just divulge you know or share that

498
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:09.360
they were in a christian family and asked if i believe in god and all that stuff and then god

499
00:31:09.360 --> 00:31:16.880
will give me words of knowledge for them and uh see god do wild things yeah yeah i mean you're

500
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:20.480
you're in the thick you're in the thick of the music culture you work with a lot of the big

501
00:31:21.520 --> 00:31:26.000
names and labels which is pretty exciting are you like are you allowed a name drop and just say who

502
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.000
you've been working with in the sense of like where your music goes because as a beat artist

503
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:35.280
people don't necessarily know that those are your beats but they're all over the world yeah um

504
00:31:35.520 --> 00:31:41.440
um yeah i'm mindful that most of the guys wouldn't on this may not even know the rap

505
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:50.000
realm you know yeah yeah this is jesus culture yeah yeah um um yeah there are some rappers

506
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:53.760
these ones i'll name some that weren't in around so they go oh let's certainly pray for snoop dog

507
00:31:53.760 --> 00:32:02.880
but like but yeah i've got uh songs of uh snoop dog with um yeah uh who else would be big ones

508
00:32:03.520 --> 00:32:09.600
big singers um uh shucks i can't even think of any

509
00:32:11.360 --> 00:32:19.120
yeah but there's yeah heaps of rappers heaps of rappers singers um reggae artists world renowned

510
00:32:19.120 --> 00:32:26.880
reggae artists yeah multi-platinum guys yeah so and what i i mean what i love about that and what

511
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:33.360
i love as well about your journey is you had this process where you know it's like this dynamic of

512
00:32:33.360 --> 00:32:40.560
the sacred and the secular being separated um to the point that there's no longer any influence

513
00:32:40.560 --> 00:32:48.880
christian influence in the secular realm but now god's saying you know hey jump back in that space

514
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:54.480
and just the fact that you're carrying jesus so beautifully so powerful you pray and the atmosphere

515
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:59.600
shifts in that moment to the point that it shifts the whole ending and actually the culture of the

516
00:32:59.600 --> 00:33:08.240
movie shifts um from what you're carrying into that place and uh yeah i guess something i love

517
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:13.760
just to hear a little bit about your thoughts is you know how how are christians in that space

518
00:33:13.760 --> 00:33:19.920
of music uh able to start shaping culture now yeah like it's um

519
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.240
i do i do actually encounter a lot of christians in

520
00:33:28.080 --> 00:33:37.200
sorry in the music industry um uh some of them you know i guess trapped in it caught in it

521
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:43.680
in the cycles and so there's there's one guy who's a there's a pastor as well um

522
00:33:45.040 --> 00:33:52.240
and he he got he got um you know he sucked into the whole sleeping around part of the

523
00:33:52.960 --> 00:34:00.080
um music industry and sleeping with multiple women and so he always tried to encourage me

524
00:34:00.800 --> 00:34:06.640
because he felt bad that i was so good in some ways yeah and so

525
00:34:08.080 --> 00:34:16.000
it's sad you get a lot of wounded christians they and like if uh because the church i guess um you

526
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:23.840
know not just for example like like david garrett how they've pioneered the whole band um keyboard

527
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:30.000
drums bass and all that stuff that whole movement when you get guys like me or other people other

528
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:37.440
artists who you know use beat machines or something it doesn't god's not in that music you know so

529
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:42.080
there's no place for them to creatively express so therefore they're like okay the church don't

530
00:34:42.080 --> 00:34:46.719
want my gift so i might as well go out there you know but yeah i'm saying that they go out into

531
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:54.400
i guess the world of the secular market and they get smashed and so um for me i've just had to learn

532
00:34:54.400 --> 00:35:00.000
even though it wasn't the recommended route for me to get there um because of

533
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.780
my previous journey when I come out of the last five years and hitting absolute

534
00:35:03.780 --> 00:35:08.780
rock bottom. And I just sort of learned my boundaries.

535
00:35:09.380 --> 00:35:12.780
I learned boundaries a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

536
00:35:13.260 --> 00:35:16.260
It was a dumb, I wouldn't have chose that way to learn it, but I've learned.

537
00:35:19.980 --> 00:35:23.740
And learning the boundaries when I'm in those circles, we have got, you know,

538
00:35:24.260 --> 00:35:28.740
woman galore around alcohol, money, cocaine,

539
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:30.000
drugs, all that stuff.

540
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:35.720
The moment I feel my heart pull or I get tempted to try it,

541
00:35:35.720 --> 00:35:37.860
I quickly put it down. I've learned to put a boundary.

542
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:41.760
There's a gracious moment where I just have to hop down and say, Hey guys,

543
00:35:42.160 --> 00:35:46.540
see you tomorrow. Done my job. Like, you know, and all that stuff.

544
00:35:46.540 --> 00:35:49.560
And they actually, they actually respect you for a day.

545
00:35:49.560 --> 00:35:51.780
And so in doing that,

546
00:35:51.780 --> 00:35:54.840
a lot of some Christians have come clean on me and just, Oh bro, you know,

547
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:58.940
it turns into like repentance sessions and profiles like you,

548
00:35:59.780 --> 00:36:03.340
all that stuff. And, but the church don't like me, the church judged me.

549
00:36:03.340 --> 00:36:08.220
And so, um, you know, the devil will happily receive the church's rejects,

550
00:36:08.220 --> 00:36:09.060
you know? So like,

551
00:36:10.780 --> 00:36:15.340
so they just get stuck in that cycle. And as much as I'm,

552
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:20.340
I guess I'm caught in there to set the captors free, you know,

553
00:36:20.340 --> 00:36:24.420
it's also to set the Christians free as well. Not saying that I'm,

554
00:36:24.980 --> 00:36:28.940
I'm the same. I get it, man. Yeah. It's crazy how many are in there,

555
00:36:28.940 --> 00:36:31.820
but some of them are scared to be honest. Um,

556
00:36:32.140 --> 00:36:36.500
but what I shared to some of those guys or some of my friends in the industry

557
00:36:36.500 --> 00:36:40.900
is they actually respect you. They don't like the whole Bible bashing component,

558
00:36:40.900 --> 00:36:43.660
you know, like forcing yourself or your theology or,

559
00:36:44.660 --> 00:36:48.460
but they respect you a lot more. And they actually, um,

560
00:36:48.500 --> 00:36:50.860
if anything, they enforce the boundaries on your behalf too.

561
00:36:50.860 --> 00:36:55.840
Like I've been in moments where gang members or artists will force cocaine

562
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.640
or certain drugs on me and other artists who know that I'm a Christian will go

563
00:36:59.640 --> 00:37:03.560
in there and just say, bro, don't, don't hear the offer him that that guy loves

564
00:37:03.560 --> 00:37:06.600
God, bro. And if you miss his life, I will miss you up.

565
00:37:10.600 --> 00:37:13.800
So they end up, they start fighting on behalf of my righteousness, you know?

566
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:18.000
That's awesome. Yeah.

567
00:37:18.020 --> 00:37:18.860
That's so cool.

568
00:37:20.420 --> 00:37:23.380
Yeah. That was awesome, man. That was so good.

569
00:37:24.500 --> 00:37:26.340
So cool, man. I, you know,

570
00:37:26.460 --> 00:37:29.780
it's something that something that I've kind of seen a little bit recently. Um,

571
00:37:29.860 --> 00:37:34.100
and I know you're, you're dabbling in the space a little while, but, um,

572
00:37:35.180 --> 00:37:39.300
but for example, just this kind of merging of, um,

573
00:37:39.500 --> 00:37:42.540
merging tech business, um,

574
00:37:42.580 --> 00:37:46.740
within the music industry happening right now, like the Snoop dog, you know,

575
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:51.280
you sold $44 million worth of NFTs, um, and this week,

576
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.200
uh, which is a little nuts. Um, I know you've got,

577
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.600
I think you've got some, um, NFTs in the work as well. And so, you know,

578
00:37:58.600 --> 00:38:03.400
what's, um, you speak to what you're seeing and that just at the trend of the

579
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:07.260
emergence of, you know, as, as, as culture explodes, as,

580
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:09.600
as things explode, uh, how, you know,

581
00:38:09.600 --> 00:38:13.400
business is kind of taking a forefront inside and said the music industry and,

582
00:38:13.500 --> 00:38:15.780
and, and tell us about your NFT project too.

583
00:38:16.660 --> 00:38:22.060
Yeah. Yeah. No, cool. So my one's still, uh, I guess we're still, um,

584
00:38:23.780 --> 00:38:28.540
I sort of, I'm still deciding, I guess, what route I want to go with my NFT,

585
00:38:28.540 --> 00:38:33.340
but, um, yeah, it's amazing. Like if anything,

586
00:38:33.700 --> 00:38:37.420
you know, mindful in my heart goes out to those who have hit a,

587
00:38:37.860 --> 00:38:42.680
a hard place financially or they've lost their jobs and all that stuff.

588
00:38:42.700 --> 00:38:46.180
And I guess, you know, the world, uh,

589
00:38:47.140 --> 00:38:48.680
in the world's economy or whatever, you know,

590
00:38:49.180 --> 00:38:52.260
economic system that isn't working to or looking to good, you know,

591
00:38:52.260 --> 00:38:55.780
or too bright. But, uh, for me,

592
00:38:55.820 --> 00:38:59.140
like I've just taken a whole different stance and if anything,

593
00:38:59.140 --> 00:39:03.060
I think it's we're in the best times to make money, you know, like, uh,

594
00:39:03.820 --> 00:39:06.220
I'm really, really excited. Um,

595
00:39:07.580 --> 00:39:11.820
about all these opportunities and obviously NFTs are another opportunity for

596
00:39:11.820 --> 00:39:12.800
people to make a lot of money.

597
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:16.320
It's beautiful for the artists or for guys like myself. Um,

598
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:19.960
because I guess the same way that cryptocurrency,

599
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.320
I don't know if a threat is the right word, but it sort of is like,

600
00:39:23.600 --> 00:39:26.720
as a threat to the banks, the banking systems is the same way.

601
00:39:26.720 --> 00:39:30.160
The NFTs are to the recording industry, um,

602
00:39:30.180 --> 00:39:32.920
because it cuts out all the middlemen. And so, you know,

603
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:37.880
you're no longer an artist who's going to keep you bound and

604
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:41.520
own all your property, intellectual property for 10, 30 years, you know,

605
00:39:42.120 --> 00:39:46.560
so you now get out there and make all the money and connect with all your

606
00:39:46.560 --> 00:39:47.360
fans. One-on-one.

607
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:49.320
The middleman.

608
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:52.200
Yeah.

609
00:39:52.200 --> 00:39:54.280
It's awesome. Awesome to see like, you know,

610
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:58.200
just the when you start having that decentralized conversation, you know,

611
00:39:58.200 --> 00:39:59.880
anything starts to be possible.

612
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:21.000
Specifically for artists, music artists, digital artists, physical arts, is really the best part about the NFT space is putting power back to the people and cutting out some of the bureaucracy within the industry.

613
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:28.000
Yeah, all those greedy corporations, it's crazy what they lock you into.

614
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:32.000
They're even worse than the banks.

615
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:33.000
Yeah.

616
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:47.000
Yeah, so it's just a beautiful space. And so I was blessed to get some of Snoop Dogg's NFTs before he actually...

617
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:49.000
No way. That's awesome.

618
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.000
I got like eight of them. I got them for like $30, those ones, I think.

619
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.000
What are they worth now?

620
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.000
They're worth heaps.

621
00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:00.000
Give a rough ballpark on what they're going for now.

622
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:03.000
I don't know. So he made $44 million. Was it $44 million?

623
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:04.000
Yeah.

624
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:10.000
I just knew, yeah, I've got some gold. I just haven't even looked into it.

625
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:21.000
One of the articles I saw about it said they're running for about five grand each, which would be like, you know, 0.45 Ethereum.

626
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:23.000
Yeah.

627
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:32.000
So that's cool. So part of the ideas that I'm throwing backwards and forth, I nearly got ideas from my bro Ben Runciman that was on here earlier.

628
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:33.000
Yeah.

629
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:34.000
Hey Benji.

630
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.000
Yeah man, he was on a little while ago.

631
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:48.000
But also with Benji as well, I've thrown ideas in and around doing for my album, possibly like 22 or 25 NFTs.

632
00:41:48.000 --> 00:42:01.000
And because I've got this track that to me embodies the full revival thing that I felt God told me to do in the New Zealand hip hop industry.

633
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:11.000
And so I've got guys who are, I guess, currently, I was going to say killing it, but there's a street that are doing well for themselves.

634
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:18.000
Today I'm trying not to get through the whole urban thing going on, language, but also the greats, you know.

635
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:32.000
And so to put them all on one track, and I've always had like a common prophetic word from people, from known prophets to say that I'll be one to unify generations and stuff.

636
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:41.000
And so that was one thing that I said, God, if that's the call of my life, let me create a song that has all of them on it.

637
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:48.000
So I got three generations of artists all on one track, not all of them, but a heck of a lot of them.

638
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:54.000
And there's like 18 of them, I think, and all on one song, which is huge.

639
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:58.000
Three or five mix, which is quite a beefy song.

640
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.000
But yeah, it was 23 minutes, 22 minutes, actually.

641
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:07.000
I didn't realize, but it was 22 minutes long and I narrowed it down to 12 because it was just overkill.

642
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:11.000
The length, I have someone sit there for 22 minutes.

643
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:14.000
So, yeah, so I did that.

644
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:18.000
But all of that to say is that that is the song that I'm wanting to put on the NFT.

645
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:26.000
And so everyone in New Zealand will probably understand how big this track really is, because some of them haven't heard from these artists in many years and artists.

646
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:33.000
And so, yeah, putting that into an NFT and the idea, this is me just even verbally processing.

647
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:50.000
And as I mentioned with Benji and Ben, to make the different scales of exclusivity, you know, like these guys will own the track, listen to the track for whatever it is, $100 and 12 of them will pay whatever, $5,000.

648
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:59.000
And they'll get to have ownership over the song, get a percentage of the streams, the sales or it's really endless.

649
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:03.000
But also they become like my 12 disciples.

650
00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:09.000
Yeah, so to put like a mentoring component to them is what Benji was encouraging me to do.

651
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:16.000
So I haven't got that far yet to the NFT, but those are ideas that I'm really looking into.

652
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.000
It's just because I'm still doing the vinyl.

653
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.000
There's such a lot of work and I don't have a team.

654
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:22.000
It's only me doing it.

655
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:30.000
So, yeah, I'm doing a lot of the back behind the scenes stuff to get the album really pushing and pumping and stuff.

656
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:31.000
That's awesome, man.

657
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:36.000
Hey, I know that we're going to actually be, what is it?

658
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.000
We've got it coming up tomorrow.

659
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:44.000
We'll be with Eric Skelton, who's actually running a massive NFT project, which is going to be really cool.

660
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:45.000
So we'll unpack.

661
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.000
If you didn't know what an NFT is, we'll unpack that more and more.

662
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:53.000
Rookie, real quick, because we've got to bring it in for a landing now.

663
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:59.000
Some people might be in this place with like hearing about NFTs and crypto for the first time and not really understanding it.

664
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:00.000
I just love it.

665
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.640
to share the story of one of your youth who rocked up you know the last time you saw him

666
00:45:07.600 --> 00:45:11.600
you were you know doing some counseling because he wasn't in school one of the next times you see

667
00:45:11.600 --> 00:45:19.920
him he rocks up in a Lambo this kid from Kawaro tell us this story and especially with the dynamic

668
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of you know like emerging technology is worth paying attention to yeah for sure for sure like

669
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um i've seen it happen maybe three four times over in the last couple years um just the

670
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opportunities that i've missed hey man it's it's gut-wrenching but the first one that benji's

671
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referring to is so i'm from a small town and while i'm youth mentoring i'm in the high school whilst

672
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in the high school part of my role is to um was to reintegrate uh the youth um either back into

673
00:45:55.920 --> 00:46:01.440
training uh some form of education type of a thing just to you know because they'll be

674
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:08.640
absent away at home you know and truant and all that so i i called up this one kid say bro come

675
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to the high school and uh we'll sit down we'll do like an action plan you know how to get you

676
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back into school find your job or some training you know go on a course so he comes in and he

677
00:46:18.240 --> 00:46:23.040
sits down i get to know him a nice kid and i'm thinking why is he truant you know he's got no

678
00:46:23.040 --> 00:46:31.120
what i would think um no issues at home you know or major issues and so he just starts going off

679
00:46:31.120 --> 00:46:35.520
so if you just give me a thousand dollars i can make you a rich man and i was like what do you

680
00:46:35.520 --> 00:46:40.880
mean i'm not giving you a thousand dollars i'm laughing with him you know straight up straight

681
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:45.120
up there's this thing called bitcoin and i remember at that time seeing it on the internet on

682
00:46:45.120 --> 00:46:49.200
whether it was bebo i can't remember like there'll be little pop-ups of this new thing called

683
00:46:49.200 --> 00:46:54.720
bitcoin i remember seeing i'm telling him nah nah nah don't do that bro that's that's a scam

684
00:46:54.720 --> 00:46:58.400
that's a scam what people are even calling it nowadays you know that's a scam they're still

685
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:06.080
calling it a scam and so it's probably one of the most successful scams so he's going you should go

686
00:47:06.080 --> 00:47:10.080
you should go do this and so um i'm like nah nah nah they're just trying to steal your money

687
00:47:10.080 --> 00:47:15.120
and he says he says if you come on sir give me a thousand dollars i'll make you rich you won't

688
00:47:15.120 --> 00:47:20.160
regret it so no i can't do it sorry buddy you're gonna have to do you're gonna go i have to find

689
00:47:20.160 --> 00:47:25.680
you a job so he goes he gets so he says that's why i'm here is i'm on i'm telling you that i'm

690
00:47:25.680 --> 00:47:32.320
gonna go to new world uh for those international just like a grocery store 7-eleven would they

691
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:38.240
call it a 7-eleven just yeah just just grocery store grocery store and so um they'll go over

692
00:47:38.240 --> 00:47:44.000
there he said he'll go in there and he'll make 10 000 us dollars which i think at the time he

693
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in fact it didn't probably take him six months to make and he's going to dump that 10 000 us

694
00:47:49.040 --> 00:47:54.640
dollars into bitcoin and so i keep i'm trying to talk him out of it don't do it bro don't do it

695
00:47:54.640 --> 00:48:02.320
bro you'll be sorry you know all that stuff and um yeah so he does it so i have to write him off and

696
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:07.680
tell the ministry of education he's not interested in coming back to school he's going to get a job

697
00:48:07.680 --> 00:48:17.840
in new world and invest money so may have what felt like a six months or a year later um he's

698
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dating one of our girls in the church and so um one of the girls who's our youth leader upcoming

699
00:48:25.200 --> 00:48:29.840
youth leader starts saying rick do you remember that i was like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i remember

700
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:36.640
him he's rich ass now like what do you mean he's rich ass oh he's got like a lamborghini and stuff

701
00:48:36.640 --> 00:48:41.440
he just bought his mom uh a house in koto uh now he's going to go buy them a house in

702
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:47.280
in auckland and he's going to buy his own house in auckland he's going to buy him a hammer i'm

703
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:54.720
thinking whatever and so so she she says no for real for real and so i end up seeing him

704
00:48:55.920 --> 00:49:01.760
and he rocks up in the baddest car ever and i look at him and i just say bro what's this because of

705
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:07.440
those things those bitcoin things and he goes yeah yeah and i don't i can't remember i i don't

706
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:14.720
know what bitcoin started at but i'm it was literally new and he'd done ten thousand dollars

707
00:49:14.720 --> 00:49:21.360
u.s dollars into them they might have been three cents i don't know zero below the decimal i don't

708
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:28.720
know like wow he killed it and so he just yeah he just he's still in auckland now just

709
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:37.120
yeah i think he might be 23 24 now and yeah he did say though is that if i ever

710
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:42.960
did a missions trip and took young people overseas as an offering he didn't come to church nor did he

711
00:49:43.520 --> 00:49:47.840
to my knowledge receive christ but he said i love what you do with young people that

712
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and if you ever want to take them overseas i'll pay for their tickets yeah so cool man

713
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.040
that's amazing but it haunts me

714
00:49:57.520 --> 00:49:59.840
i know that thousand dollars yeah

715
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:01.920
Like, I don't know his number or nothing.

716
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.000
I'll probably, I'll give you a thousand dollars now, bro.

717
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You know, like, yeah, yeah.

718
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But yeah, just people, I just want to encourage you.

719
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I know it's frightening to try and, you know,

720
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to invest into something that you don't understand.

721
00:50:15.160 --> 00:50:17.440
But yeah, just, it's worth it.

722
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:18.280
It's worth it.

723
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And it'll just keep going up, you know, like, yeah.

724
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And you're listening to the right people.

725
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Yeah.

726
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That's cool.

727
00:50:24.080 --> 00:50:26.000
We're going to bring it in for a close here,

728
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but Leonard Ravenhill said the opportunity of a lifetime

729
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must be seized within the lifetime of the opportunity,

730
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which is a real thing.

731
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You know, you do actually miss out sometimes.

732
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So that's what we're excited about

733
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for the rest of the summit,

734
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helping everyone align, position,

735
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:50.240
get ready for the opportunities that God's presenting to,

736
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you know, like, Ricky, I just love the story so much.

737
00:50:52.640 --> 00:50:55.040
You know, like just hearing some of your story,

738
00:50:55.040 --> 00:50:57.400
opportunities are available now to shape culture.

739
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:01.080
Opportunities are available to carry the presence

740
00:51:01.080 --> 00:51:05.200
of the Holy Spirit into your marketplace city.

741
00:51:05.200 --> 00:51:08.240
Opportunities are available now to be creative.

742
00:51:08.240 --> 00:51:10.160
Opportunities are available now to, you know,

743
00:51:10.160 --> 00:51:11.920
to steward your personal gift,

744
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:14.520
to, you know, to be that person of influence

745
00:51:14.520 --> 00:51:16.360
in your sphere of influence.

746
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:18.640
Opportunities available in tech and business,

747
00:51:18.640 --> 00:51:19.480
all exploding.

748
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:23.920
So really, really pumped for the next couple of days

749
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:24.840
with everyone.

750
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And we'll be jumping, we'll be live like straight away.

751
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:31.840
I'm going to basically send Nick the Zoom link,

752
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:33.840
and then we'll just be jumping straight back in here.

753
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:36.720
But Rick, do you want to pray for us?

754
00:51:36.720 --> 00:51:38.720
And we just want to say thanks again, man.

755
00:51:38.720 --> 00:51:39.560
Such a blessing.

756
00:51:39.560 --> 00:51:41.720
And everyone's just absolutely loving this.

757
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.160
So yeah, and I see a few questions here about NFT.

758
00:51:45.160 --> 00:51:46.200
So watch for tomorrow.

759
00:51:46.200 --> 00:51:47.960
We're going to be breaking that all down.

760
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:49.960
You'll get it piece by piece and blow by blow,

761
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:52.880
and you'll understand it a lot better.

762
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:54.480
So yeah, if you want to take it away,

763
00:51:55.120 --> 00:51:56.480
and once again, thanks so much, man.

764
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:57.320
Sweetest.

765
00:51:57.320 --> 00:51:58.720
Yeah, no, it's an honor, Benji.

766
00:51:59.680 --> 00:52:01.120
Sebastian, it's an honor.

767
00:52:01.120 --> 00:52:06.080
So Lord, we just thank you for this awesome time.

768
00:52:06.080 --> 00:52:08.640
We just thank you for this amazing family.

769
00:52:08.640 --> 00:52:12.720
And Lord, we just, yeah, we just partner with you.

770
00:52:12.720 --> 00:52:14.040
Holy Spirit.

771
00:52:14.040 --> 00:52:18.000
And yeah, we just love you.

772
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:18.840
We just love you.

773
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:19.920
We just love you.

774
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:23.080
And man, yeah, joy.

775
00:52:23.080 --> 00:52:25.240
Lord, I just release joy upon everyone.

776
00:52:25.240 --> 00:52:28.080
And yeah, you're just so amazing, Jesus.

777
00:52:28.080 --> 00:52:30.480
And just bless each and every person.

778
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:31.960
May they be equipped.

779
00:52:33.120 --> 00:52:36.680
And Lord, that you encourage them to step out in faith

780
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:42.760
and to just, yeah, be amazing and just own it.

781
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:43.680
Yeah.

782
00:52:46.160 --> 00:52:47.440
I don't have to laugh too much.

783
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:51.280
Yeah, joy, joy over you all.

784
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:52.360
Come on, man.

785
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:53.200
Come on.

786
00:52:53.200 --> 00:52:55.040
Oh, thanks so much, bro.

787
00:52:55.040 --> 00:52:56.080
So stoked.

788
00:52:56.080 --> 00:52:59.600
Such a blessing to hear stories from your world.

789
00:52:59.600 --> 00:53:00.960
Always light me up.

790
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:03.680
And always stories I've never heard before as well.

791
00:53:03.680 --> 00:53:05.840
It's like exploding so much goodness.

792
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:07.800
So thank you so much for what you're carrying.

793
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:09.760
And I'm excited for my vinyl.

794
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:10.800
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

795
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:11.960
I can sign it too, bro.

796
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:13.400
Yes, please.

797
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:14.480
Yeah, yeah.

798
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:15.680
All right, cool, man.

799
00:53:15.680 --> 00:53:16.520
See you.

800
00:53:16.520 --> 00:53:17.360
See you later.

801
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:18.200
Thank you, bro.
