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Okay, Greg is joining us and Sean will be with us in a moment.

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It's going to be, it's going to be sweet this time.

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We'll get there.

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There you go.

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Let's see what we got here.

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Let's see what we got here.

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Here we are.

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How are we?

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We right there?

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Very good.

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Sean's only a minute away.

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You tried the other one that didn't work and he's just got the new link show up for the

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So he's only a minute away.

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So that's all good.

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Perfect.

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Well, we're going to hit live.

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Yep.

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I'm just going to go straight in.

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I'm just going to pray and we'll do it right away.

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Fam.

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Beautiful.

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Have everyone with us.

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He's in here.

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That's glorious.

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Sean, a massive welcome.

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How you doing?

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Hello, gentlemen.

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I'm great.

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Thank you.

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Fantastic.

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So good to have you here.

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We just double checking, just checking in case we're being shadow banned here for a session.

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We went live and it shut us down instantly.

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So just double checking that.

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No worries.

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If that's the case, we will just go live just here and send you on the recording.

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But just trying to figure out if that's exactly what's happening.

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Yeah, that's what's happening.

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We're being banned.

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So we're recording already now.

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So we'll just carry on with the recording and we'll shoot everyone the recording.

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So it'll be good anyway.

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All right.

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Hey, well, for everyone, I think this time for this particular session, we've got everyone

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joining us for the replay of supposed to live.

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So we've got a bunch of people all around the world waiting with a line, wondering where

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the live is.

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And that's why we've created our own platform as well.

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So we can stream from there next time.

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But we were doing it on Facebook to make it more accessible for everyone for now.

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But it's an honor to be here with Sean Clark and Greg McKay, both good, amazing people

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from Australia.

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And we've got Sean.

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I don't think we haven't met personally before, but it's great to have you here.

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And I've been part of the TPR journey.

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I was even part of the BCR early, kind of connected in through Clint back in the day

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and Seb's in California.

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So very, very cool to be together today.

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And Seb, why don't you pray for us?

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And then we are going to jump right into the action.

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It's going to be fantastic.

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It's going to be fantastic.

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And I'm going to be in the background sending a quick email to everyone, letting them know

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what's going on.

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But we'll.

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So to make it a long prayer.

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So the email, you know, give me two minutes.

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Now you pray and then we'll be excited.

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I'll smash an email out quickly.

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Love it.

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Well, Father, we just want to thank you for where we're at in our time here.

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Thank you for the summit.

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Thank you for all the goodness that you've been pouring out so far.

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And we just we just as we were around the corner and jump into this session.

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We are just so grateful to be a part of the journey.

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So thank you for the conversation about decentralization, about cryptocurrency, about what we're going

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after.

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Thank you for the freedom that we have access to in our finances because of the system.

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And so we ask for favor.

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We ask for wisdom.

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And we just say come Holy Spirit in this session in Jesus name.

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Amen.

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Fantastic, guys.

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Hey, well, we've I think all over the world right now is such a wild ride.

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This week has been crazy all over the world with governments going to new levels, the

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people going to new levels.

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It's all escalating and it's exciting.

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But I'm sure we've even got this sign behind you, the people's reserve.

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And we would love to just hear what it is you've created, why you've created it and

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why, like right now must be so.

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Like, in a sense, like this is what you, this moment is what you created this, the whole

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thing for.

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So yeah, let's hear about the People's Reserve.

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What have you guys created?

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My cells are alive, my man.

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Come on.

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This is, this is the time and I, it's not me though.

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I want to make a correction if you don't mind my saying, a whole bunch of people, including

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my brother, Greg McKay, you mentioned, my great friend, Clint, who's just given, given

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birth to him and Christy.

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There's lots of people who have seen the rationale in getting behind a vision, which is really

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now, I'm Canadian, do you know what my friend Trudeau's doing?

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My God, I couldn't have imagined it.

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They're arresting people.

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I just saw somebody say, you know, what's happening now in Ottawa, if it would have

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happened during Martin Luther King or some of these other protests, they all would have

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been arrested.

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Like it's really, you mentioned it, it's next level now.

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And what that actually means, a nice little segue, what it really means for me is it's

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all the more important that we have systems available, built.

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And here's the thing, gentlemen, and this is a big distinction.

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As it relates to an economy, and as it relates to digital currency, and anyone who hears

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that word and says, oh, I don't want Bitcoin, I don't want crypto, I understand.

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I like to say there's a distinction, there's the current economy, there's the crypto economy,

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and then there's the people's reserve economy.

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And they're all a different thinking and different paradigm.

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And so please don't link it at all to any concepts you may have previously, it's different.

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And one of the ways that it's different is that not just as it's usable, and I'll get

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to that in a moment, but it's also empowering to the people.

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This is such an important time in our history, where we can do things we haven't been able

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to do before.

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And our current economy, sometimes people say to me, Sean, why are you doing it?

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In a nutshell, it's so my son doesn't have to grow up in an economy that puts us in financial

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servitude.

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Yeah, come on.

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So it's one thing to have an alternate system, it's one thing to have an alternate system

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that's functional.

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It's also a whole another level, speaking of the people and the government's going to

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another level.

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It's also another level to have an economy that's empowering to the people.

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And we do that by coding, by programming into the wallet of our digital currency compounding.

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And look at the simple little thing.

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But it's so incredibly powerful.

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And I like to say to people, understand that the banks generate trillions of dollars in

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wealth every single year, by charging us compounding interest.

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Yeah, come on.

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Let's reverse that.

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Certainly reverse.

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That's giving a lot of power to that entity called banks.

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By that vehicle called compounding.

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Let's empower the people with that power.

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Come on.

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So let's do that.

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So how?

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So then the question is, how do we do that?

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And there's a magical little word called consensus.

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And people will say to me, Sean, what's backing the coin?

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And my response quickly is, what's backing the dollar?

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The dollar, ask yourself the question, what's backing it?

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There's nothing backing it, except consensus.

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Come on.

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So consensus is what backs our currency.

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It's that, I like to say, if I've got a $10 note and a $100 note, what is it that makes

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one piece of paper worth 10 times more?

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It's not that this one's backed by 10 times more money or gold or anything.

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It's just that you and I will agree that that one's worth 10 times more.

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It's by agreement.

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Now, if I had a black rock and a red rock, and we agreed that the red rock was worth

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10 times more, then we'd have consensus with the rocks.

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So it's a very important thing in currency to understand the power of consensus.

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And that's why my brother Greg is so important, and Clinton, many, many hundreds, almost thousands

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coming now of business owners who have agreed to accept our currency at, and this is such

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an important little thing, I'll slow it down a little bit, the last highest price of gold.

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So if a business owner, if you go into a business owner and they say, yep, you can buy that

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for $100, by consensus, we're agreeing, I'm going to give you this note.

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But at the same token, all we have to do, and this is my call out.

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All we have to do, if we want change, all we have to do is say yes.

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Come on.

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I'm going to say that again.

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If we want change, all we have to do is say yes.

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And a big piece of the power that, you know, you know, the coercion.

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that's happening is because people don't want to give up their income so they're

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gonna go get that thing. Yeah. That's a financial coercion. So it shows us the

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power that the money has. So all we have to do is say I want away from that, that

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the power they have. That money gives them power. Let's move over to another

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system where, and here's the thing, somebody said to me, yeah but if we if we

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lose fiat or cash currency what are we gonna do? But my response to that is

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what are you gonna do if we don't? Yeah. And so there's another, the blockchain is

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not controlled. Fiat currency is controlled by those people. They control

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it. Yeah. All we have to do is say no to that and yes to something else that they

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don't control and then we have what I like to call a sanctuary of freedom, of

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solvency, of choice. But we have to get our head around change. Yeah. Come on. Now

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here are the people that are coming to the People's Reserve now. Israel's

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coming. Wow. Come on. Database of 200,000 people are about to be introduced to the

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People's Reserve and that's powerful but it's also sad. And the reason it's sad is

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the only reason they're coming is because they're in pain. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Israel was the first country to have the vaccine rollout. They're on booster

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number four now and so if you want to know how it goes everybody just go check

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Israel. They're six months ahead and it's right on track exactly where we are

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now. They were six months ago. So if you want to know how it goes it doesn't end

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well. Yeah. And so you can make the choice to be proactive or wait till it's

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painful. Yeah. But the people who are proactive are when they see what we've

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done. You know what they often say to us Benji and Seth? They often say oh my

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God it already exists because they were like we got to build something. I don't

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have time to build it. And they see what we've done. They go oh thank God you

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started that two years ago. Yeah. Here the sanctuary exists. Now I'm calling it a

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sanctuary. Why is it a sanctuary? I'm going to give a little dose of a

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blockchain so I'll slow it down again so everyone can really get the gravity of

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what I'm about to say. It's one so in crypto. So first of all let me

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discard or let me what's the word let me address why we're not like that.

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I like to say to people if Elon Musk can do a tweet positive or negative about

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Bitcoin and the price of Bitcoin goes up or down dependent upon one guy's whim

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one week to another that should make you really freaking nervous. That shows

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the degree to which it can be manipulated. I come from a speaking

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background. I'm from eastern Canada which is now a dictatorship. Jesus. I'm

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from there. My family lived there. My friends lived there. I can't believe that's

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Canada. Yeah. Canada is being tarnished. I won't go there. I came from eastern

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Canada to speak in Australia as a speaker and for 10 years I did a

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workshop called the architecture of a well-crafted presentation for the

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speakers. The reason I tell you that is because my head thinks like an architect

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and when I decided let's build the world's greatest digital currency

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which morphed into oh right those exchanges can be manipulated. So when my

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architecture brain says oh I need the ecosystem dare I say everyone and let me

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qualify because I got a little compliance attorney in my ear all the time we may

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have we could have we potentially have been the only people in the world to

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build an entire ecosystem. Now what does that exist of? Yes a coin but not

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something that you buy at this price and sell at this price it can be minute

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that's like the share market. I say it's the same monkey different lipstick.

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Yeah. It's just like the stock market everybody it's not it's not for the people. Now what is

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potentially for the people is that platform that it's built on called the blockchain.

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Blockchain is a sovereign platform. Come on. Now like everything else it can be abused

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but if you have the right intention it gives us the platform to build something

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for the people. So what did we do? We did what nobody else

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else has done and we created an ecosystem for the people. Let me map out real quick the elements of

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that. The first thing is that whole up and down. So the problem Bitcoin came out in 2009 because

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of the 2000 global financial crisis and it's called cryptocurrency. It was supposed to be

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a currency but I actually wrote an article saying it's failed as a currency. It's morphed into a

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digital asset like I said like the stock market and it fluctuates up and down which means a

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business owner can't trust its value. They might transact with it today and tomorrow it could be

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worth 25 or 30 percent less. That's not reliable as a currency. There's got to be some stability

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element plus it's too slow to transact. I did a transaction in 2017 with Bitcoin took four hours.

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It doesn't take that long now but it's still slow and it's expensive to transact so it's like the

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rudimentary version. We have to see Bitcoin for what it is. The rudimentary version of a digital

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currency kind of like a dial-up internet and I say to everybody don't you wish you would have bought

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Bitcoin when it was a thousand dollars and then I backed that up by saying

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I'm going to whisper in your ear it could be it might be possible possibly the second Bitcoin is

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here and just like you had trouble getting your head around Bitcoin and you didn't act on it,

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you weren't proactive because you didn't understand it. I deplore you. Your children's

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future in fact I would suggest might be benefited by being proactive and looking very close. That's

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all I can ask. Come on. I just ask you to please investigate what the people's reserve has done

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that no one else has done and here's one of the things it's done. This is my little

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blockchain jargon so stay with me. Yeah. Blockchain gave us the opportunity to do

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things we haven't been able to do before and we need that. We have to be able to do things we

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haven't been able to do before. Praise blockchain for giving us that possibility. We can do things

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and let me give you proof of that. Yeah. Something called a random consensus algorithm.

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Now you don't need to understand how that works. Just know that it's a piece of technology

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that means that we no longer need a bank to validate a transaction. Come on. We don't need

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banks anymore. Now they don't like that idea but it's why Bitcoin showed up and said hey we don't

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need a bank so I can be your currency. The problem was too slow, too expensive, too volatile but we

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don't need them. Now that's opportunity. Yeah. Come on. So what do we do to solve that problem

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or at least attempt to solve that problem? We anchor the value of the coin on the exchange.

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Listen to this very closely. The last highest price of gold. Not the price of gold,

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the last highest price of gold. Anchored to the last highest price of gold on the exchange

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in an attempt to dissolve the volatility. That's number one. Beautiful. Number two.

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Now and by the way people say how can you do that? Because it's blockchain. We can code it

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and here's more evidence. Bitcoin has its inventory, its manufacturing cut in half

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every four years. The supply of bitcoin gets coded. Now you can't do that with gold or wheat

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or mangoes or crude oil. You can't cut half the supply every four years. That'd be like if there

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was a thousand gold mines. Four years later there's 500. Four years later there's 250. Four years later

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there's 125. We can't do that but with blockchain it's digital, it's code and I know this is like

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new neural pathways for everyone but please everyone break those new neural pathways. Now

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is the time for new neural pathways to understand that we can do shit we never, forgive me, we've

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never been able to do before that can help us and that's what we need. If we stick over here

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we're in trouble. We need new thought, new ideas, new possibilities and blockchain's the home.

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Come on. So we've got new possibilities. We can anchor the value because we can. You know it

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reminds me of Blackberry and what was the other one? Nokia owned the mobile phone space until

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somebody had a good idea. Let's add a camera to the phone. Now we don't know about Blackberry,

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Nokia. It's the same here. Bitcoin's Blackberry. TPI is the iPhone. We just had a good idea. We

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can do it so we should do it. The second thing we did, we added Compound.

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compounding to the wallet, and the wallet, the people's reserve, is currently compounding

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at 16%. And people get, oh, how does that work? Because the bank, in order to compound,

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they have to buy it at this price and sell it at this price. And I guide everyone, please,

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and if you don't believe me, just research. That's all you got to do. The Dutch did it.

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From 1300 to 1650, they offered their citizens, not banks and institutions, not banks and

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institutions, they empowered the people with 10 to 12% interest in a perpetual bond, a

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bond that never ends. Now, how did they afford that? Because what happens when you give people

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10 to 12% interest, they still have to go to work, they still have to set up businesses,

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so they can't retire, they still have to participate in the economy, they just have a little bit

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more. Now, what do they do with a little bit more? They go spend it. And something irrational

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then happens. Business owners have to add staff and expand their manufacturing simply because

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we've empowered people with enough for them to contribute, but not enough for them to quit.

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That's the short story. So when we're giving you compounding, how do we afford it? All you got to

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do is go spend it, and expand the economy, and spend it, and expand the economy. Again,

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this is new neural pathways. You're going to doubt me, you can't do that. Well, we have a

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historical evidence we can do it. And all you have to do is say yes. That's it. We just have

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to have consensus that this is a good freaking idea and we win. It's brilliant. I mean, I think

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that this is something that people have been wrestling with for so long. It's because we can

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see that, I mean, we were talking about this earlier, one of the earlier sessions, because

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you got people this week protesting all around the world. You got, like you said, Trudeau,

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this week, just shutting down bank accounts. It happened to a high-profile New Zealand

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freedom fighter this week as well. They're just like grabbing stuff, taking it. I mean, it's just,

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it all, doesn't it all just look like pre-World War II? Like at every step in the process, it's like

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yoink, yoink, you know. And so we've just been talking about the power of agreement,

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the power of community, the power of where you could just unsubscribe. Yes.

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You know, here we are protesting, but at the same time, everyone's banking and everyone's

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paying their insurance. That's it, brother. That's why, you know, I say my partner and I

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have had this question many times. Should we go to Canberra? No. What we should do is build the

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sanctuary. And we, every day and every minute of our lives, we are building the sanctuary when we

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realize we, I love that term, we need to unsubscribe and subscribe to something else that's

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built for us. And what I, what I love is that, you know, because people have been talking about

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unsubscribing, but very few people have a new thing to subscribe to. Which is what I love about

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what you guys are doing is actually creating an opportunity for people to subscribe to a new

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economy. Because even, you know, what you're talking about with a new economy,

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for example, when you unsubscribe to an existing economy, like the banks, for example, it doesn't

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just mean what people think it means that their money is out of the bank. It means that their

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leverage is out of the bank, which is what the bank was using to, you know, unlock the velocity

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of money and, you know, use their leverage to create trillions. Well, when we start unsubscribing,

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the banks don't just lose our money that's in our bank, they lose their leverage that they were

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utilizing to actually manipulate nations. Yes. True that. True that. So, so exciting what you

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guys are creating. And how are you, how are you seeing it playing out right now? Like you guys

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have got businesses jumping on board, you got people jumping on. Greg's a great example of

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someone who's using TPR, you know, like in their daily life. What's it starting to look

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like as the economy starts coming alive for people? Well, it's, it's empowering and disempowering.

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Empowering in that, wow, when people get ready, they celebrate what we're doing. And that,

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that, that, that's empowering to us. It makes us feel like all this work we've done has been

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worth it. What's disempowering is, and one of the, one of these pieces of disempowerment

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we're solving as we speak, but we need to be more scalable. And so we've, we've got a group of

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people now working around, around the clock to make what we're doing more scalable. That's why

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we're not going to the protest. We're, we're upscaling getting ready.

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ready for an even bigger influx.

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if I'm just being honest,

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that is a little, feels a little disempowering is,

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when will people,

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I just don't want anyone to wait till it's painful

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for them to say yes.

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And so it's one thing, as you're saying,

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to go to Canberra and what a beautiful thing.

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And my brothers and sisters that are doing that,

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that is empowering.

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That is a beautiful, chokes me up.

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I'm watching that, that occur.

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And these truckers, my God, in Ottawa,

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in the free minus 25,

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like it's minus 25, by the way.

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Crazy.

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I don't even know if you saw that or not,

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but they need fuel for the trucks to keep them warm.

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And the police were coming and confiscating the fuel

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and going to arrest you if you bring fuel to the truckers

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to keep them warm.

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Now, if that's not tyranny,

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this is modern day tyranny.

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It doesn't look as ugly perhaps as it once did,

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but it is modern day, a little cleaner, more polished.

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Trudeau has got his hair done to the nth degree.

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It is very clean looking tyranny.

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But yes, when I do my presentations live,

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I say my biggest job, and I've got a big job.

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And I said it earlier is to create new neural pathways.

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And so I encourage people to go to discover,

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if I could go to discovertpr.com.

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Discover, T like Tom, P like Paul, R like Richard.com.

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And just spend time there really challenging

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your own resistance to this new subscription, if you will,

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and get your answers.

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We have all the answers.

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I like to say to people,

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I don't mind you asking any prickly question.

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Bring any prickly question you like.

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So long as your intention is to get the answer

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and take some proactive action, not to challenge me.

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I've got plenty of challenge in my life.

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I don't need any more challenge,

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but I'm happy to answer literally every single person

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that's genuinely interested in taking proactive action,

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but can't quite get their head around it.

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I'm here.

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Our team is here.

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We will spend the time to empower you with understanding

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so you can say yes.

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So-

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That's fantastic.

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Let's just grab that website again, people.

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Just so that they can hear that again,

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where should they go if they want to get more info on TPR?

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Discover.

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Yep.

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TPR, like the People's Reserve.

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Tom, Paul, Richard, discover, tpr.com.

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Just click on, let's get started,

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and it'll walk you through gathering

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all the appropriate information.

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That is fantastic.

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So exciting.

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If I could, Benji,

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and set another 120 seconds.

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I forgot about the whole ecosystem.

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We need a complete ecosystem.

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Otherwise, we still have a foot in that world.

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And so the anchoring, the compounding,

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and this one, it's a native coin.

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So long story short,

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a token, which is what most crypto coins are called,

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and they use coin and token interchangeably,

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it's not the same thing.

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A token is like Optus and Vodafone renting from Telstra.

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Most crypto coins are leasing from Ethereum or Bitcoin,

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and they're limited to their speed,

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their transaction costs, and their features.

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So we built, it's a seven-figure infrastructure.

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Come on.

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This is what we've done.

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We could see what was needed in the future,

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and we built it so it's our own native blockchain,

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which means that's why we can add things

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that other people don't have on theirs,

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because we have it, it's ours.

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Come on.

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It's 12 Ukrainian coders for a year building that thing

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at a seven-figure cost, but it's done.

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Come on.

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So that's the coin in the wallet.

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The wallet's just like a bank account that holds it,

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where the compounding occurs.

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Then, where the platforms that hold the digital currency

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is something called a cryptocurrency exchange.

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that's the same monkey, different lipstick.

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I can't take my sovereign coin and put it on a platform

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that's not built for sovereignty.

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It's built for manipulation and volatility.

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Let me say that again.

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Cryptocurrency exchanges are built

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for manipulation and volatility.

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They make money on volatility.

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I'll leave it at that,

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but it's transactions back and forth.

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But, and so when you have a coin

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that's anchored at the last highest price of gold,

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you don't want volatility.

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So we had to build our own.

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My little architecture brain said,

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I'm not taking my sacred sovereign coin

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with a new economy for the people

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and allowing it to be bastardized in that.

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community. So we're going to build our own and we're going to build our own network of merchants.

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We've got our, it's tprmerchantdirectory.com. So you and we've got over 40 people on our team

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to nurse everybody through the education process. It is an entire ecosystem I don't believe the

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world has seen. So if you're ready to investigate, that's all I can ask you to do. A new system.

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Yeah. I love what you said, Benji. Not only does it allow you to transition out of that system,

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but by doing so takes leverage away from that old system. So they don't have as much power.

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And so for the people who, when that penny drops, there's no second choice. That's what's really,

466
00:30:51.520 --> 00:30:57.760
the Israelis I just talked to last night, two guys, one guy in Portugal, one guy in Norway.

467
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:07.840
There's a group in the NZ. They know we can't survive over here. This shit's going down.

468
00:31:07.840 --> 00:31:12.720
Yeah. It's going down. And we need, one guy was in the financial world. He said,

469
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:18.640
Sean, we have wealthy clients coming to us saying this can't go on forever. What are we going to do?

470
00:31:19.280 --> 00:31:23.120
Where are we going? And you know what his answer, when he said to me, I would have thought there

471
00:31:23.120 --> 00:31:31.120
would have been others like TPR. There's one. Wow. There is only one. When the penny drops

472
00:31:31.120 --> 00:31:36.800
for what is required, what is actually required, nobody else has built that full infrastructure.

473
00:31:38.320 --> 00:31:46.800
Wow. That's pretty wild. That, I mean, yeah, I guess I feel really, really grateful to

474
00:31:47.520 --> 00:31:52.800
Clint, you know, for getting me involved in the process of joining up with TPR.

475
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:02.960
It seems a while ago now, you know, like, but I'm watching it grow little by, you know, like

476
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:06.800
little by little. Cause it was right in the early days that Clint, you know, he said, jump in here

477
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:12.080
and we've been seeing this community grow and starting to see things. Seb, I think you've got

478
00:32:12.080 --> 00:32:17.360
the question there for Greg. So why don't you, why don't you jump in there and just kind of,

479
00:32:17.360 --> 00:32:20.880
let's explore a little bit deeper of what this is actually starting to look like as it builds

480
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:27.280
momentum. Yeah. I'm so intrigued guys. Cause it's it's revolutionary what you guys are doing.

481
00:32:29.360 --> 00:32:37.120
Take me in deeper to like how it's really working in the local context. I help facilitate a local

482
00:32:37.120 --> 00:32:43.760
focused community application here in the U.S. public square. And I'm so intrigued by how you're

483
00:32:43.760 --> 00:32:48.800
doing this at a local level. So take me to be, how is it working? Have you, obviously you've got

484
00:32:48.800 --> 00:32:54.080
the direct here pulled up, but how has, how has it gone? Greg, Sean, what's the, what's, what's

485
00:32:54.080 --> 00:33:02.480
that process been like? Okay. Can I add to that? Yep. Go for it. Yep. Okay. So just on that when

486
00:33:02.560 --> 00:33:06.400
Sharon and I actually, the interesting thing, my, my, my assessment of TPR before we get

487
00:33:07.120 --> 00:33:14.320
where we stand with TPR, to me, TPR is the tool, is a tool, biggest tool I know to allow humanity

488
00:33:14.320 --> 00:33:20.880
to rise. It allows people, it allows people to be all they can be because it solves financial

489
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:27.600
and community issues. So to me, this is, it's just not financial, financial. If you want to

490
00:33:27.600 --> 00:33:31.680
have good health, don't be poor because you will not have good health. If you want to be

491
00:33:31.760 --> 00:33:36.000
able to help people, I remember when I first, 20 years ago, when I was pastoring a church,

492
00:33:36.560 --> 00:33:40.320
people used to say, oh, well, it's a sin to have money and all this sort of stuff. And I used to

493
00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:43.600
look at that and I studied that. Now I look at it for the last 20 years, I've understood.

494
00:33:43.600 --> 00:33:49.040
If you want to help poor people, don't be one of them. You can't help humanity rise by being in

495
00:33:49.040 --> 00:33:54.080
the trenches. You've got to get out of it. So to me, TPR is humanity rising and gives us the

496
00:33:54.080 --> 00:34:02.880
opportunity for humanity to rise. That's my starting point. Now, what TPR, from a local

497
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.120
point, what you're saying, Sebastian, is Sian and I have been involved right from the offset,

498
00:34:07.120 --> 00:34:12.239
when I say right from the offset, Sean affectionately calls us his original warrior.

499
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:17.920
So we've been around a long time. But what we did in the early stages, because we're in a

500
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:23.120
little remote town, we let everybody know, merchants and that, around the country and

501
00:34:23.120 --> 00:34:27.440
business owners, we know, get involved in TPR, we can trade with you on the internet and that,

502
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:32.320
because we only had a small community. And that works beautifully, by the way, that the whole

503
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:36.000
TPR merchant system for businesses works beautifully. And then...

504
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:40.080
I mean, let me just jump in on that. I mean, you've got an Opal mine and you've sold

505
00:34:40.080 --> 00:34:44.560
probably getting close to hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of Opal for TPR.

506
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:50.000
Absolutely. So when people say to me, they say, oh, well, how's this system really work?

507
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:56.800
My first point is, I know it works because I'm doing it, right? I've spent, I've done about 200,

508
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:59.840
well, this is a big round, I know I've sold...

509
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:07.920
over $200,000 worth of my product in exchange for TPR instead of fiat dollars, which means I have

510
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:16.160
created a parallel bank over here, so to speak, with my Opal jewellery sales. However, then people

511
00:35:16.160 --> 00:35:19.680
go, well, that's all good and well to build a bank. What do you do with it? And I've been saying

512
00:35:19.680 --> 00:35:23.600
to people, I said, oh, well, I live about 30% off the system. And Sharon pulled me up the other day

513
00:35:23.600 --> 00:35:29.040
and said, oh, that's impossible. She said, I feel a cringe when you say that, because that wouldn't

514
00:35:29.040 --> 00:35:33.280
be right. And because Sharon's one of those people that wouldn't tell a lie ever. So she

515
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:37.200
challenged me on that. And I thought, okay, I'll go back and have a look. And when I looked at it,

516
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:43.680
I looked at the figures, and I have physically transacted and bought, physically spent,

517
00:35:44.240 --> 00:35:52.640
pushing well over $150,000 back that I have physically bought with TPR, which means I'm

518
00:35:52.640 --> 00:35:57.920
living proof of you can live in exchange. So when I looked at that, I'm probably living more than 30%

519
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:06.080
off the system. And to enable that to happen is, yes, we can get on the internet and say, I want

520
00:36:06.080 --> 00:36:11.200
some, whatever it is, you know, so magnesium products, or I need somebody to give me a

521
00:36:11.200 --> 00:36:15.120
coaching program, whatever, because all the merchants are there. There's, you know, hundreds

522
00:36:15.120 --> 00:36:19.600
and hundreds of merchants. Sean may correct me, but there's well over 500 anyway, I believe that

523
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:25.760
merchants we can trade with. But two months ago, Sharon, I looked at this and thought this stuff

524
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:34.960
is getting bad fast, the whole world system. So we went local, we decided to focus locally. And

525
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:39.680
instead of just out there in the world, we decided to focus locally. And in about six weeks,

526
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:46.880
we had over 25 people trading TPR within a five kilometre radius from where we live. Now we live

527
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:52.000
in a 3000 people town. Now we have about 25 people, we help them download wallets, some didn't have

528
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:56.880
businesses, but now they actually exchange services, they'll come and do my lawn mowing or

529
00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:02.560
whatever, and I can pay them TPR. But that allowed them to be active. So what we now have is about 25

530
00:37:02.560 --> 00:37:07.440
people in our little community, whereas, you know, truck drivers, transport guys, we've only got three

531
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:13.200
takeaway shops in the entire town, and two of them trade TPR, which means that I can physically, which

532
00:37:13.200 --> 00:37:18.080
I did this morning, I'm not even back in town, got to town last night, went and seen our local takeaway

533
00:37:18.080 --> 00:37:22.640
guy that's got a nice restaurant there, went and bought my friends, coffees, and that spent about

534
00:37:22.640 --> 00:37:30.960
50 bucks, tap the TPR QR code, paid for it, off the grid doesn't exist. So at the moment, we only

535
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:36.320
got 25 people. However, it's enough for us. And this is what excites me about when Sean mentions

536
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:43.600
the parallel economy, it's enough for us to say, we are Australian dollar, TPR dollar over here,

537
00:37:43.600 --> 00:37:49.840
we're living enough off the grid, that we're not 100%. When this whole world goes digital systems,

538
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:54.320
we're not 100% owned. And I talk to anyone or listen to it for five minutes. I don't care if

539
00:37:54.320 --> 00:38:00.640
your parallel economy is exchanging sheep for veggies, at least you're off. That's how much

540
00:38:00.640 --> 00:38:07.600
you control life in the world that's coming. Because if we stay where we are in the mainstream

541
00:38:07.680 --> 00:38:14.160
system, when it goes to central digital banking, we will be 100% owned. So at the moment, Sharon

542
00:38:14.160 --> 00:38:20.880
and I in our little community, have got people, as Sean mentioned, as a consensus of agreement

543
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:26.000
to use TPR as a trading platform. As I said, we got the truck driver, I got the second end yard,

544
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:30.960
I got the electric, we got the electrician, we got the plumber, we've got tourist attractions,

545
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:38.160
food outlets, we trade amongst ourselves off the grid on a system that we've agreed

546
00:38:38.160 --> 00:38:42.560
is the future. So does that help? Is that where you're going? I mean, that's so from a local

547
00:38:42.560 --> 00:38:47.120
point of view, everybody, I just come back from Canberra. And I said, it's all great to have this

548
00:38:47.120 --> 00:38:52.800
big speaking, oh, sorry, advance. And I've been in Canberra for a week, come back last night.

549
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:57.920
However, I started, I spoke to many people. I said, however, when you leave here, don't get

550
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:02.960
the warm, fuzzy feeling, thinking we've done this march and we're protesting against it,

551
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:08.800
go home and create your own communities. And here's the answer to how to make those communities

552
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:17.600
exist without government control. Totally, it's amazing. So, because, you know, you can,

553
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:23.360
for example, here, like, when COVID happened, we went around our house and looked at all the

554
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:28.320
products that we use every single day, right? And asked ourselves, you know, what are the values of

555
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:35.440
these companies? Yeah. And asked ourselves the question, you know, do the companies that we're

556
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:40.800
purchasing, you know, spending our money on, do they do they align with our values? So they are

557
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:46.320
they, for example, when you know, stuff is crazy, you know, seventh generation, which is just an

558
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:52.320
example. I don't know if you've heard of this brand before. It's American, like, dishwashing soap and

559
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:59.840
hand stuff. Anyways, they vowed to defund the police back in 2020.

560
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.800
Starbucks, for example, matches employee contributions to Planned Parenthood.

561
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:10.960
And so there's this alternate economy that's being created that's really, it's values-based,

562
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:16.360
but it's also a part of this, like, decentralized way of spending your money, you know?

563
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:22.800
So you're this whole, we're getting this dualistic economy starting to happen where people not

564
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:29.560
only wanting to spend a different token or coin or whatever you want to call it to create

565
00:40:29.560 --> 00:40:34.560
an off-the-grid system, but they're also wanting to create this system that I only

566
00:40:34.560 --> 00:40:38.680
want to give my money to places that are in alignment with those values that I hold dear

567
00:40:38.680 --> 00:40:39.680
as well.

568
00:40:39.680 --> 00:40:43.520
And so, and that's the, what you guys are doing, creating a platform for the first time

569
00:40:43.520 --> 00:40:49.080
in history for that to really take off and say, like, we could live our entire life on

570
00:40:49.080 --> 00:40:53.240
the platform of values without anybody else controlling it.

571
00:40:53.240 --> 00:40:54.240
Yeah.

572
00:40:54.240 --> 00:40:55.800
Just, I think, just incredible.

573
00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:56.800
So I love it.

574
00:40:57.040 --> 00:41:01.080
Can I just add one thing and then I'll get up, then I'll leave it to finish off.

575
00:41:01.080 --> 00:41:04.360
Just on that one, because you mentioned values and this is really important to me.

576
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:08.240
I've spent my entire life in the business world as Benji has seen a bit of what I've

577
00:41:08.240 --> 00:41:09.240
done.

578
00:41:09.240 --> 00:41:12.680
I've had over 50 businesses, so I've done a lot in the business world.

579
00:41:12.680 --> 00:41:17.600
Just real quickly, and we, and I got to a stage understanding most businesses, by the

580
00:41:17.600 --> 00:41:20.120
way, because we live in a competitive world, are I win, you lose.

581
00:41:20.120 --> 00:41:21.480
That's just the competitive world we live in.

582
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:26.400
However, a business that's really successful works on win-win, okay?

583
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:29.800
But three years ago, I looked at that and thought, that's not even good enough.

584
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:34.560
So now I had to make every single business decision and I must win, you must win, and

585
00:41:34.560 --> 00:41:36.920
the greater good must win.

586
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:42.880
And I come up with that about three years ago, two years ago when I met Sean, TPR ticks

587
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:50.040
every single box from a truly Christian-based, a good humanity business, I win, you win,

588
00:41:50.040 --> 00:41:52.200
and every transaction, the greater good wins.

589
00:41:52.200 --> 00:41:56.280
So from my perspective, it is the ultimate for humanity.

590
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:58.280
I'll leave it up to you to finish off, Sean.

591
00:41:58.280 --> 00:41:59.280
I've done my bit.

592
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:00.280
Love that.

593
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:01.280
Love that, Greg.

594
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:02.280
So good.

595
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:03.280
Yeah.

596
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:09.240
I will compliment that real quick to just say that because we have a native blockchain,

597
00:42:09.240 --> 00:42:11.840
we can add features.

598
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:20.120
And one of the next features we will add will be a smart contract, which is basically just

599
00:42:20.200 --> 00:42:28.840
an irrefutable agreement that's coded with a pool that will take, money will go into

600
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:32.040
that pool for social causes.

601
00:42:32.040 --> 00:42:36.040
So that element, I actually started a project called Food Love Humanity.

602
00:42:36.040 --> 00:42:41.000
For me, I don't understand why there's anybody hungry on the streets of Melbourne or any

603
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:42.720
other major city.

604
00:42:42.720 --> 00:42:49.080
And that's one of our next moves is to start to contribute to social causes.

605
00:42:49.080 --> 00:42:52.640
And yeah, I think this is a good note to exit on.

606
00:42:52.640 --> 00:43:00.200
In the last couple of years, I've been paid one compliment over and over and over again.

607
00:43:00.200 --> 00:43:02.920
And that is, Sean, you're generous.

608
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:11.160
And when it first started happening to me, I was perplexed because the tone of voice

609
00:43:11.160 --> 00:43:15.560
that was coming at me, you're so generous.

610
00:43:15.560 --> 00:43:21.160
It was like, and then it dawned on me about the third or fourth time, I don't want this

611
00:43:21.160 --> 00:43:24.120
to be that remarkable.

612
00:43:24.120 --> 00:43:25.920
It shouldn't be remarked.

613
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:31.840
Generosity shouldn't be remarkable, particularly not this, so that I want, I want, you know,

614
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:34.400
right now we have tyranny that's being normalized.

615
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:35.400
Yeah.

616
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:40.800
I want generosity to be normalized so that it is no longer remarkable.

617
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:41.800
Yeah.

618
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:42.800
Absolutely.

619
00:43:43.040 --> 00:43:45.080
Generosity for granted.

620
00:43:45.080 --> 00:43:46.080
Yeah.

621
00:43:46.080 --> 00:43:47.080
Yeah.

622
00:43:47.080 --> 00:43:51.240
And, and so now when somebody says to me, Sean, you're, you're so generous.

623
00:43:51.240 --> 00:43:53.240
I say, so are you.

624
00:43:53.240 --> 00:43:54.240
Yeah.

625
00:43:54.240 --> 00:43:59.960
The only difference between you and me is I've had compounding come to my life.

626
00:43:59.960 --> 00:44:04.200
TPR puts us in a state of abundance, everybody.

627
00:44:04.200 --> 00:44:06.760
And I mentioned earlier, sometimes people say, Sean, why are you doing it?

628
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:08.000
Or what's the bigger vision?

629
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:11.120
And I say, if you're ready for it, here's the bigger vision.

630
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:14.400
And Greg actually mentioned it.

631
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:16.080
Humanity rising.

632
00:44:16.080 --> 00:44:17.080
Come on.

633
00:44:17.080 --> 00:44:18.080
Yeah.

634
00:44:18.080 --> 00:44:20.080
Right now we're suppressed.

635
00:44:20.080 --> 00:44:21.080
Yeah.

636
00:44:21.080 --> 00:44:22.080
A hundred percent.

637
00:44:22.080 --> 00:44:23.080
A hundred percent.

638
00:44:23.080 --> 00:44:29.040
Our humanity, which is natural and organic to us, is suppressed because we're paying

639
00:44:29.040 --> 00:44:35.160
compounding and we're in financial servitude to banks and governments in order to pay for

640
00:44:35.160 --> 00:44:36.640
all of this stuff.

641
00:44:36.640 --> 00:44:40.800
And as soon as we have compounding to us, all of that suppression goes away.

642
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:42.680
We're no longer worried.

643
00:44:42.680 --> 00:44:43.680
We're abundant.

644
00:44:43.680 --> 00:44:47.160
Then when we're abundant, guess what happens?

645
00:44:47.160 --> 00:44:49.280
Our humanity rises.

646
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:50.600
Come on.

647
00:44:50.600 --> 00:44:55.640
And it is organic for us to be generous, loving, compassionate, giving.

648
00:44:55.640 --> 00:44:58.400
It's not remarkable that I'm generous.

649
00:44:58.400 --> 00:44:59.400
Yeah.

650
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:00.000
It's just the fact that.

651
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.040
Suppression is no longer upon me.

652
00:45:02.040 --> 00:45:04.560
I'm a free, sovereign human who's abundant.

653
00:45:04.560 --> 00:45:06.160
And of course I'm going to give

654
00:45:06.160 --> 00:45:09.160
just as anyone listening to this recording would be.

655
00:45:09.160 --> 00:45:10.600
I'm not remarkable.

656
00:45:10.600 --> 00:45:12.120
I'm just like you.

657
00:45:12.120 --> 00:45:15.160
Let's make giving and compassion

658
00:45:15.160 --> 00:45:18.840
and love and generosity normal.

659
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:19.680
I love it.

660
00:45:19.680 --> 00:45:20.880
I love it, my man.

661
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.360
One of the things we talk about often with our crew

662
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:28.160
is that it's the nature of love to outdream darkness.

663
00:45:29.160 --> 00:45:34.160
And that has to incorporate every sphere of society.

664
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:41.400
You know, love has to seep into the systemic infrastructure

665
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:47.240
that nations are built on.

666
00:45:47.240 --> 00:45:52.240
And what I love about this is that it's love in motion

667
00:45:53.680 --> 00:45:56.720
because love looks like something in every sphere.

668
00:45:57.160 --> 00:45:59.280
Love might look like giving a hungry guy

669
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:02.120
on the streets of Melbourne a meal,

670
00:46:02.120 --> 00:46:07.120
but it also looks like creating financial infrastructure

671
00:46:08.240 --> 00:46:11.200
that produces abundance for everyone.

672
00:46:11.200 --> 00:46:12.360
And like you're saying,

673
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:15.320
there is no need for anyone to be in lack.

674
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:16.880
We don't have to have a system

675
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:18.840
that puts some people in bondage.

676
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:21.440
We don't have to have a system

677
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:25.480
that leaves a handful of people as trillionaires

678
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:28.080
who have the power overnight to click their fingers

679
00:46:28.080 --> 00:46:31.400
and feed every person on the planet if they wanted to,

680
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:33.800
provide water to every single person on the planet

681
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:34.640
if they wanted to.

682
00:46:34.640 --> 00:46:36.800
We don't have to live in a world

683
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:38.880
where a handful of people hoard the wealth

684
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:42.200
that could be creating heaven on earth.

685
00:46:42.200 --> 00:46:44.760
We can create a structure and a system

686
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:49.760
and a beautiful new world that empowers everyone

687
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:51.120
to live in abundance.

688
00:46:51.120 --> 00:46:54.040
So I wanna thank you for your gift to humanity.

689
00:46:54.040 --> 00:46:56.120
And I'm excited about that.

690
00:46:56.120 --> 00:46:58.520
It's cool being able to check my phone as well

691
00:46:58.520 --> 00:47:00.760
and seeing TPR and seeing what you're talking about

692
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.160
in terms of abundance and compounding every day.

693
00:47:04.160 --> 00:47:06.400
It's great seeing TPR.

694
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:07.600
Give you guys a quick squeeze.

695
00:47:07.600 --> 00:47:09.720
This is my TPR wallet on my phone.

696
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:12.440
You know, it's just, there you go.

697
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.120
It has your wallet and all that type of stuff.

698
00:47:15.120 --> 00:47:19.000
It's just there on your phone and it's a simple system.

699
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:21.280
So I'm really excited for the journey ahead

700
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:25.000
and thank you so much for being with us today.

701
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:27.160
I'll look forward to sharing the journey

702
00:47:27.160 --> 00:47:29.880
as our communities connect and dance

703
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:34.280
in this beautiful process of redesigning reality

704
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:35.760
and restructuring nations.

705
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.440
I think it's time, like you said, for humanity to rise.

706
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:42.320
And I think love gets to win in this.

707
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:43.560
Benji, I appreciate your brother.

708
00:47:43.560 --> 00:47:46.160
And I'm just gonna say, you've inspired me today

709
00:47:46.160 --> 00:47:48.160
because you gave me another sentence to use

710
00:47:48.160 --> 00:47:50.120
and that's so big for me.

711
00:47:50.200 --> 00:47:52.400
Indeed, it has to be systemic.

712
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:54.280
100%.

713
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:56.360
Whatever solution anyone's considering,

714
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:58.080
it must be systemic.

715
00:47:58.080 --> 00:48:01.760
I use the term architecture, but systemic is even better.

716
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:04.880
And the image I had in my head is the people's reserve

717
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:09.880
is drowning the old system and being systemic over here.

718
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:13.040
It's discovertpr.com, everyone.

719
00:48:13.040 --> 00:48:14.560
I feel truly blessed.

720
00:48:14.560 --> 00:48:15.400
Thank you, gentlemen.

721
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:16.280
Thank you so much, my friend.

722
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:18.560
We'll be excited to share that with the community.

723
00:48:18.560 --> 00:48:21.320
And we are really excited

724
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:23.120
about journeying together in the future.

725
00:48:23.120 --> 00:48:24.640
So thank you so much for your time, gentlemen.

726
00:48:24.640 --> 00:48:26.480
Bless you both, and we'll catch you soon.

727
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:27.320
Blessings.

728
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:28.640
Cheers, guys.

729
00:48:28.640 --> 00:48:29.480
Appreciate it.

730
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:30.320
Thank you.
