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Evan, just check that we're streaming.

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Yep, just checking in, not yet.

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Okay, we are live, I got us.

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Rock and roll, man, go.

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Hey, welcome back, everyone.

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This is such an adventure session 13 of 29

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in our rollercoaster weekend of action.

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And we are really so, so pleased

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to be here with David and Boyd.

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And we're going to be talking about banking and insurance

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and infrastructure for disabling nations.

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It's going to be pretty wild

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and you're going to be blown away

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to hear what they've been able to accomplish

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through a concept that we've been talking about

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a bunch so far in the summer

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is the power of us actually working in community.

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So we're really, really intrigued

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and excited to explore this more,

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but Boyd, it would be wonderful

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if you'd like to open up for us in prayer

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and then let's light up this adventure.

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Father, we thank you for this opportunity

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to be gathered in the fullness of time

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as you're recapitalizing all things in heaven and earth

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through your son, who come Lord and visit us,

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come and release your power for wealth creation

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that we can be confirming the covenant together

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in ways that bless your heart.

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And we pray these things in the name of the Father,

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the Son, and the Holy Spirit, amen.

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Amen.

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Now, Seb, I know that one of your favorite verses

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is in Deuteronomy.

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Do you want to share your favorite verse with us there,

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Seb, from Deuteronomy?

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And then I'd love to hear Boyd

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talk through some of these really powerful principles

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that are embedded in Deuteronomy

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that actually are core to disabling nations.

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So, good, I used to think the first, you know,

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after Exodus, the next three books were a little boring.

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Then I really read them and I discovered, you know,

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firstly, my favorite verse in there is Deuteronomy 8.18,

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which is, for as the Lord your God

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who gives you the ability to produce wealth,

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for it so confirms your covenant with him,

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meaning the production of wealth

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is inherently a part of what confirms your covenant

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with God and that whole journey has changed my life.

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But I know you've got another favorite one

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that's a little later in the book.

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So hit us through that one.

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And I think you may be thinking about Deuteronomy 28.

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There are a couple of verses there

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on the blessing side of that passage, verses 12 and 13,

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where what the Lord is telling us as his people

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is that he's going to make us the lender to many nations

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and you should not borrow.

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Then the next verse,

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the Lord shall make you the head and not the tail.

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So let's go with like what lenders do.

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Lenders, let's say they lend capital.

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Now you can spell that word out

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and then you can go down to head.

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That is the word that's connected with the idea of capital.

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The capital of your body is your head.

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So we use the word capital in the English language

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for capital financially and for capital cities.

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It's the same spelling.

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Whoever is actually the lender is the head, the capital.

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So I don't care who your political officials are,

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whoever is banking,

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whoever is in control of the capital for banking

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is actually the cultural leader.

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And that's what we're supposed to be.

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So there's a very interesting verse in Ephesians 1.10.

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It speaks about Christ as the one who,

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the recapitalization, it's sometimes translated

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as the summing up of all things in heaven and on earth.

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Well, a body is summed up in the head.

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The actual word there in the Greek

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is the idea of recapitalization.

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Christ is recapitalizing all things in heaven and on earth.

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He's the new head.

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What Adam failed to do, Christ has succeeded.

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seated in doing. He's the new corporate man. Okay. And so all

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things in heaven and earth are being recapitalized by Christ in

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his body. All right. Christ's body is not headless. And Christ

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is not just a head without a body, that the body of Christ is

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a head and a body we are together with him being called

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to recapitalize all things in heaven and earth. How about that,

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Yeah, man, that, that is, that is so wild. And I'd be good to

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hear for people who don't know, whereabouts are you based? So

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Dave, where are you sitting right now?

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I'm sitting in Minnetonka, Minnesota. It's in the western

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metropolis of the Minneapolis St. Paul area.

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Yeah, nice. And Boyd, where are you? Where are you based?

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Colorado Springs, Colorado.

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Very nice. Cool. Well, it's, it's cool to be here. I mean,

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since in California, I'm in New Zealand. And we're now seeing

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this. I mean, it's just an amazing time in history where

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from all over the world, we can gather together. And it's given

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the given us the ability to do community. And in the past, you

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know, you might have had a few people who had similar thoughts,

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but they might have been dispersed all around the world.

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But now we have the opportunity just to align, to connect, to

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converge, to strategize, to work together. And I think one of the

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keys to be able to work together is having a genius blueprint.

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And I think that that's something that you guys have

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really created in your community, that is creating, I've

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never seen, I haven't seen anything like it on the planet

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of what you guys are doing. And so if you guys want to just,

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you know, between you give us a little bit of an overview of

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what's happening in your community. And because I know

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that when people start to see it, they're just gonna be crazy

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blown away by what you guys are creating.

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So what's happened is for Dave and I will just go back and

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forth. And you guys can keep us on track of the journey that

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we've been on. For my wife, Sheila, and I, we had a had a

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real knock in 2008. With our friends and family, we lost, we

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lost, you know, 1.5 million plus in value, and watching wealth

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disappear in that market downturn. And one of the things

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that became apparent during that hard time was that if we were

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going to reinvent ourselves, it wasn't a matter of just trying

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to find a way to do investing better, we need to figure out

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how to do banking, and not as a customer, but as an owner on the

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banking side, we needed to switch positions at the desk

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from customer to owner on the banking side of the financial

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world. Because when it comes to creating wealth, the Deuteronomy

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818, there's a couple ways that wealth, we want to just narrow

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it down to the tool of money for a moment, we could say there's a

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couple ways to create an income or to create income streams. And

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there's really only two fundamental ways. One is people

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make money. And the other is money makes money.

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Investing is not money making money. If you don't have people

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at the end of your investment making money, your investment is

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going to be worth zero. I have rental properties, and it's

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still a people has to write a rent check. It's a people

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dependent business investing is. So there's two kinds of

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work. There's us working to make money, and then there's money

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working to make money. The only people that genuinely have money

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making money in their world are the people who are not even

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customers of banks and insurance companies. They are the owners

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of the bank in an insurance space and banking and insurance

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are two sides of the same coin. They're both involved in risk

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offset. So what goes on in the money when money is made by

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people in an investment space and a people working space, what

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you're doing with risk is you're having to manage it. The banking

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and insurance business for owners is not the business of

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managing risk. It's the business of offsetting risk. The key to

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discipling nations economically is we have to be in the risk

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offset business, we cannot be only in the business, or even

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primarily in the business of managing risk. That's what the

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Babylonians do. That's all they can do. If we're going to defund

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Babylon and finance Jerusalem, we have to be in the risk

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offset business. What does this mean?

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Well, I mean, think about it, Benji and Sebastian.

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The, if you guys are like our banker for Dave and I,

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and you give us a car loan and we make our car payments,

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principle and interest, you guys make money, right?

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Now, what if Dave and I stop making our car payments?

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What are you-

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Making money.

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Now, I like what you're saying,

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and I just want to pause and interrupt just for a moment,

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I've talked about this a couple of times

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in the summit so far,

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about the concept of, you know,

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we could en masse unsubscribe from banking and insurance,

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and in a sense,

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defund the catalysts of chaos by doing a mass unsubscribe.

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So anyone,

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anytime someone talks about the idea of like unsubscribing,

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like what you're talking about, I like it.

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So carry on.

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Yeah, so let's go back to,

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if Dave and I stop making our principle

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and interest payments to you,

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you're bankers, what do you do?

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We take the car.

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Or knock it on your door.

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You take the car.

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You repossess the car.

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Bankers take collateral.

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They don't take risk.

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So it doesn't matter what Dave and I do.

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If we make our car payments, you make money.

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If we don't make our car payments,

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you still make money.

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Bankers always make money.

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it's not a different approach in the sense

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that it's contradictory to people making money.

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It's more like the foundation that's under any economy.

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sometimes we have financial tools out there

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called foundations, right?

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So when the economic collapse hit in 2008,

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Sheila and I and our friends,

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we found out that we had a house built on sand.

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The economic storm came, the winds blew,

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the waters came and boom, the house like came down.

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The foundation of risk,

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what happens in banking,

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if you're the owner,

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is you've positioned wealth in a place

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where it's number one protected from loss.

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So there's three things that we've learned

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as a community that we need to do.

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One of them is we need to learn how to take our wealth

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and place it in a format where we actually have guarantees.

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There's only really one kind of place

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in the business world, in the financial world,

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where guarantees happen

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and it's in the banking and insurance space.

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And it's really the key is to be an owner,

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not just a customer.

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Most of us have checking accounts.

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Most of us pay car insurance, whatever.

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We're all, in some ways,

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we have a customer relationship

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with banks and insurance companies.

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But the thing about where most wealth is created,

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it's created in the space of people

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who own and control wealth in a permanent format,

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not in a temporary format.

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So what does this mean?

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It means, for example,

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when we have members of our community participate

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in how we go about doing wealth creation together,

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if there is a chunk of change

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that's deposited with the community,

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it goes under an insurance policy and will never be lost.

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It will never be lost in a great depression.

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It will never be lost in some market bubble

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because, first of all, it's not being invested.

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It's being banked.

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You see, the thing about bankers

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is they know how to get a lot more value

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out of not spending and investing money, but banking it.

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That's why they're bankers, right?

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Because if you have money and you spend it on stuff,

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you know what you have then?

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Stuff and no money.

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If you take your money

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and put it into a money-making money business

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and use the money your money makes to get stuff,

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you know what you have then?

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Stuff and your money.

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And more money coming.

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That's at least 200% better,

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and we're just getting started.

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So everything about money is,

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money is way more valuable being banked

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than it is being spent or invested.

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The key money to spend and the key money to invest

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is the money your money makes.

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We've got way better things to do with our money

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than spending it and investing it.

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This is such a key concept for people,

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which we've been trying to highlight as well,

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is never spend your capital.

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Hi.

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So what we do is we place capital in a position

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because we function,

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and this is something we can all do together,

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and it's very simple.

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We can all function together

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as our own private self-regulated.

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and family community that operates like a bank.

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We are a bank in our community that operates like a bank.

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And so what happens is, is when we deposit,

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when we place funds or values in our community,

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they are protected from loss.

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That is the key.

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The risk is offset.

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Okay.

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So just slow that down for us just for one second.

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Like how do you offset the risk?

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Well, think about what,

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if you pair up banking and insurance,

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you can hear it kind of in the word insurance.

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Like if you have car insurance,

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what you've done is you've offset the risk

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to the car insurance company

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that you're gonna have a crash

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and need a check sent to you

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to replace the value of the car.

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When you relate to a bank,

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when you're in a banking and insurance space,

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that space is a business of risk offset

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so that it has to be set up in such a fashion

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that the members can offset their risk

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to the Commonwealth in this case, us, okay?

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To the company, whatever.

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And then there's enough capability in the community.

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When an event occurs,

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the community has the ability to, if you will,

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ensure that situation and offset

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so that you offset any potential loss

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so you don't end up lost.

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Once wealth goes into a position

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where it's in a risk offset manner,

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the thing that can happen then

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is the second thing that happens

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for the members of our community

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is they get certain regular and predictable rewards.

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We call them rewards.

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Dave can speak about how these three things,

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which I'm gonna get to number three in a minute,

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work with some other financial tools.

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But what happens is you get certain regular predictable.

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We already know ahead of time

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what the rewards, the returns are.

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We already know that they're gonna be regular,

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monthly and annual, and we know it for certain, okay?

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This is not something you get with investing.

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First of all, with investing,

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you do not have guarantees on what we call your face value

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or that money that you use to do the investment with.

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That's money where that can be potentially lost.

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The best thing that you can hope with an investment

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is you don't lose your face amount

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and maybe you earn something.

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But what we're talking,

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and then what you're gonna earn

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is not certain regular and predictable.

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You kind of have to wait until after it all happens

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to see what happened.

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We already know what's gonna happen before

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because the banking insurance business for the owners

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is a business where past performance

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does guarantee future results.

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In investing, past performance

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doesn't guarantee a blessed thing because of people.

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Because people throw in, when people are making money,

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you don't know if they're gonna show up for work or not,

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if they're gonna make a good, bad decision.

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You don't know, you can't predict what's gonna go with.

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Money making money doesn't depend upon what people do.

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People can do this, that, or the other thing,

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and the people that are the lenders

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are gonna make money either way.

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Come on.

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Okay, now the third thing that happens in our community,

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which is what happens when you're in the banking business

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as an owner, all the members of our community

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continue to own and earn

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in what we call the holding companies that we have

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after they roll their face amount out.

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Because they've helped create that new company,

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and after they've helped create the new company,

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they get to permanently own and earn in that company,

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even after they roll their original face amount out,

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and they can roll that face amount out into a new company,

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and then just keep multiplying

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the value of their face amount.

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So what happens is guarantees on your face amount

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will not be lost.

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The earnings are regular, they're certain predictable,

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and you continue to own and earn

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after you roll the face amount out.

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The question is, where do you get something like this?

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Yeah, so let me just kind of quickly summarize that

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to kind of help if you aren't realizing

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what they're talking about.

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They've created as a community,

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and this is so genius.

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It's so genius, and it works so well.

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I've never seen anything like it,

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but it's just getting me like connecting with these guys.

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So basically they've created a banking system.

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It's not specifically outrightly called a banking system,

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but functionally it is.

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And what they do is, so say you put $100,000 in,

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and 10 people put $100,000 in,

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they've got a million dollars.

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Then you would use that million dollars there

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as leverage, right?

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You're not spending that money,

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but you put that into the account and you use it as leverage.

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It's much more valuable to the community as it creates leverage because we turn the cash into a cash asset that's actually, it's deposited.

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Yeah, it's much more valuable deposited than paired up with some other kinds of assets. We create the value by depositing the money.

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Yeah, so you've got cash assets deposited in your fund. And then what do you guys do with that? And this is great because this is even better than getting a loan, right?

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Because you guys don't operate with your community. You've got the ability because you've got high level bankers in your community.

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You've created a partner-to-partner relationship with other banks as well, as opposed to what most people do, which is a client-to-bank relationship.

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That's correct. We don't function as customers of banks. We're in a bank-to-bank relationship with banks, which means that we're able to utilize forms of credit that are different than loans.

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If you take what money you can and go buy a house and then put the house under a loan, the house is under what we call a bad form of debt now, and you have to pay that off to zero before you even get back to zero.

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But what we're doing as a community is we have assets that enable the community to function in an overall net debt-free way so that any of the partner-bank relationships we have enable us to do something that's multiplying wealth. So yeah, let's keep going down your path.

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So you've got cash assets, then you guys have created this ability to go and have peer-to-peer relationships with banks, which gives you a line of credit, which is actually different to a loan, correct?

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Yeah, we have an ability to pay on an interest-only monthly basis on these lines, and we use that as the mechanism for actually acquiring the assets that are held in the holding company. So all of our money remains banked. We don't directly use it. We indirectly use it to create this capability for still acquiring the assets.

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Dave, what's some examples of assets you guys have been acquiring in the process?

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Well, I think the last asset we just acquired a couple of weeks ago was a tractor supply store up in North Dakota. So really they're performing commercial assets. We really like plazas. So I don't know what the associated word would be for other countries, but yeah, like a mall with a solid anchor store that's been there for a while, long-term lease, and then has multiple other businesses surrounding it.

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So it's a lot of commercial real estate performing assets, and it's also assets that the banks we're partnering with really like. So you could go to your bank down the street and say, hey, I've got this apartment building I want to purchase. They may not like it. It may be a great asset, but it may not be what they're looking for.

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So we partner with banks, and as a partner, we want to make it beneficial for them too. We're not in it just for us. So we bring them assets that they want on their books, because what do banks do with that stuff?

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Yeah, it turns into a piece of paper, a note that they can turn around and leverage for more money to lend out to make more money, because they're in the business of banking. So we are very good partners for them. They're good partners for us.

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Yeah, you guys usually work with smaller family banks as opposed to a lot of like the bigger, more conglomerate banks.

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Yeah, the smaller family banks, the small regional banks, they have a business model that works really well. The bigger banks have a different kind of model that they want to exercise for controlling cash on deposit.

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We like to have the cash on deposit controlled. That works better. Because what happens when the cash on deposit is controlled in relationship to existing assets that we have, remember the past performance that guarantees future results?

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For us, an existing asset means one that we've held for probably at least a couple of years. That creates the existing asset category in the eyes of our bank.

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So if we have existing superior performing commercial assets, like Dave was describing, paired up with cash, what will happen is the partner bank will work with this, they'll issue a line of credit.

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The line of credit is what we use to create the asset.

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acquisitions, if you can think of it, the existing and cash assets kind of function as a, as a big, I think of it as they place kind of like a temporary hold on those assets.

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As soon as the revenue starts to flow from the new asset acquisition, within a few months, six to eight months, the partner bank will release their hold on those previous assets.

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And you know what we do on the day that they release the hold on those assets we already have?

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We do it again.

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We do it again.

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We reuse the value again.

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So somebody that participates with your a hundred thousand, we're going to be able to see at a, at a very conservative minimum, the reuse of that a hundred thousand, maybe four times in the first 36 months.

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It's being reused by just sitting there.

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It's sitting there doing something very, very important.

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It's called capital.

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Yeah.

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Whoever is in control of capital, you see is running the show.

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If you don't control capital, you're working for Faro, trying to get enough money to pay your cell phone bill today.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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What do we call that boy?

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The golden rule.

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Everybody's familiar with the traditional golden rule.

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The golden rule is the gold makes the rules.

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Absolutely.

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That's the golden rule.

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Yeah.

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So what, so let's just quickly overview this.

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People in your community are putting in together some money.

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They got a fund there.

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You use that money as leverage, not as a deposit.

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Right.

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So using your capital as leverage, not as a deposit.

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Well, we deposit it to use it as leverage.

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We just don't want to spend it.

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As opposed, but as opposed to paying it all to the bank.

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And now you've got zero.

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You deposit it so that you've got a bunch and you've got leverage and you go, you purchase a mall with a line of credit through a peer to peer relationship

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with a bank.

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They put a hold on that mall for, say, six months.

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And then the day that they release that, you've already lined up your next acquisition, which is, say, another mall or your next tractor station or your next commercial property.

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And so as a community within, say, 36 months without spending, you actually haven't spent a dollar through this whole process.

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So once you haven't spent a dollar and you've purchased maybe half a dozen major commercial entities that are all self-funding, self-propagating at the end of that 36 months, if people want to, they can take all of their capital out without having spent a dollar.

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But in that process, without spending a dollar, have now acquired six major commercial assets.

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And then with that same money, they can start all over again and do it all over again.

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And no one spent a dollar.

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Well, yeah, and the dollars that we're not spending are ours.

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Our dollars are being banked.

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We're using our dollars to acquire a wonderful kind of money in the world called other people's money.

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Yes, because that's what our partner banks are in business to do.

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They want us to use that credit.

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That's so what our money is paying.

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We use the credit, other people's money, right, to acquire.

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None of our dollars have been spent.

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They've just been marvelously multiplied, because if you take a chunk of change and go directly into an investment, here's what happens.

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You're dependent now upon that investment being successful.

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And if you have to get your money back, you've got to refinance, you've got to sell.

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And so that becomes complicated.

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The. So, yeah, the thing that's happening here is our values, we're seeing bankers are the ones who are in the ownership position of banking.

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They can grow wealth by multiplication.

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If you're invested, you're directly dependent upon that one apple tree producing apples.

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What we're doing is we're producing multiple apple trees that, yes, they do produce apples.

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But it's reusing the money over and over.

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And and that's that's the key to to what we do.

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It's genius. And I think what you said earlier is that banking and insurance are tied together.

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So how have you guys been able to fuse banking and insurance in your community?

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I mean, there's a lot of beauty here.

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And David, I love if you just kind of like start helping us understand what you guys have got going with how you synergize banking and insurance.

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Yeah, well, so there's there's banking and insurance inside the way we structure the board was just talking about as well, just on its own.

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But one of the foundational tools the board and I use personally and many members of our community

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use as the foundation, the absolute foundation of their financial environment is whole life insurance.

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And I don't know.

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I know.

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When North America, you know, the US and Canada, this is very

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prevalent. And we have companies, mutual life insurance

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companies, again, that that word of community mutual, that have

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been around for 110 150 150 175 years plus. And they've been

487
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.980
profitable every single year. And, and as a owner, because

488
00:30:22.980 --> 00:30:26.900
it's a mutual company, it's owned by policy owners, like

489
00:30:26.900 --> 00:30:31.020
myself, I have six policies with these mutual companies. But

490
00:30:31.020 --> 00:30:34.500
that is really the first foundation and Boyd does such a

491
00:30:34.500 --> 00:30:38.020
great job of tying things together. Like the big picture,

492
00:30:38.020 --> 00:30:41.620
the philosophy of money and banking, and bringing in biblical

493
00:30:41.620 --> 00:30:45.140
parallels, and how we're supposed to behave with money.

494
00:30:46.340 --> 00:30:49.020
You know, when I talk about this tool, it's a more practical

495
00:30:49.020 --> 00:30:53.820
discussion on specially designed whole life insurance, which has

496
00:30:53.860 --> 00:30:56.860
been around longer than the IRS, the Internal Revenue Service,

497
00:30:56.860 --> 00:31:01.500
here in the States. And so it's a staple, it's been a staple of

498
00:31:02.900 --> 00:31:05.740
for generations of the wealthiest families in the

499
00:31:05.740 --> 00:31:09.820
country. And it's one of those things, it's it's not super

500
00:31:09.820 --> 00:31:14.660
exciting, which is why the typical the average American or

501
00:31:14.660 --> 00:31:20.180
Canadian probably use it as something that as a as a

502
00:31:20.220 --> 00:31:23.020
necessary evil to have insurance, right? I think we

503
00:31:23.020 --> 00:31:26.700
all consider insurance kind of a necessary evil, like, I'm

504
00:31:26.700 --> 00:31:29.780
putting money away for my auto insurance, because I have to by

505
00:31:29.780 --> 00:31:34.060
law. And, you know, yeah, it makes sense. It's smart, but it

506
00:31:34.060 --> 00:31:37.020
may be wasted money, because I may never even file an auto

507
00:31:37.020 --> 00:31:40.340
claim, right? If you're a good driver, and, and nobody else

508
00:31:40.340 --> 00:31:43.900
hits you. And then it's wasted money that the great tool about

509
00:31:43.900 --> 00:31:47.340
this, but I mean, we ensure everything, right? Your car,

510
00:31:47.500 --> 00:31:52.180
your house, your your precious, your valuables, maybe jewelry or

511
00:31:52.180 --> 00:31:54.820
laptops, your iPhone, for goodness sakes, people ensure

512
00:31:54.820 --> 00:31:58.940
their iPhone, but they don't ensure the greatest asset that's

513
00:31:58.940 --> 00:32:04.780
responsible for producing the income that the revenue that is

514
00:32:04.780 --> 00:32:07.860
able to purchase all those other assets. And what is that asset?

515
00:32:08.020 --> 00:32:12.700
It's you, you are your greatest asset, because without you,

516
00:32:12.820 --> 00:32:15.580
there is no money to go buy those things that you need to

517
00:32:15.580 --> 00:32:21.260
ensure. So we often overlook ensuring our greatest asset. And

518
00:32:21.340 --> 00:32:26.100
everybody has something called a human life value. This is a

519
00:32:26.100 --> 00:32:29.820
term from Solomon Huebner, boy could definitely tell you a lot

520
00:32:29.820 --> 00:32:34.700
more about him than I can. But, you know, we hate to say that,

521
00:32:34.740 --> 00:32:39.940
you know, we are all priceless children of God. However, in the

522
00:32:39.940 --> 00:32:44.940
economic world, there is a price, there is a human life

523
00:32:44.940 --> 00:32:49.220
value in associated dollar amounts to each and every one of

524
00:32:49.220 --> 00:32:53.300
us. And that's based on our production capability. How much

525
00:32:53.300 --> 00:32:56.340
of a producer are you? So how much money can you make every

526
00:32:56.340 --> 00:32:59.540
year over your working life? And that's what the insurance

527
00:32:59.540 --> 00:33:03.820
company says, okay, that's what you're worth. So my goal and

528
00:33:03.820 --> 00:33:06.460
what many members of our community do is they we ensure

529
00:33:06.460 --> 00:33:10.340
ourselves to the max extent possible. Yeah, that the

530
00:33:10.340 --> 00:33:12.980
insurance company says you're worth $5 million over the next

531
00:33:12.980 --> 00:33:16.900
30 years. That's how much we'll insure you for. But we do it in

532
00:33:16.900 --> 00:33:22.820
such a way that the policies are designed to, to really

533
00:33:22.820 --> 00:33:25.780
minimize that death benefit and maximize the amount I pay every

534
00:33:25.780 --> 00:33:29.300
year. Yeah, because you know, Boyd said a lot of words, and I

535
00:33:29.300 --> 00:33:31.700
think those have been repeated throughout this discussion over

536
00:33:31.700 --> 00:33:38.620
the last 35 minutes. Community, capital and control. Those are

537
00:33:38.620 --> 00:33:46.140
three primary pillars of this tool is you got to work inside a

538
00:33:46.140 --> 00:33:50.300
community, a mutual insurance company. You want control of it

539
00:33:50.420 --> 00:33:53.300
like a banker, right? Because he who has a goal makes the rules.

540
00:33:54.020 --> 00:33:56.780
You put your money somewhere that accelerates that cash

541
00:33:56.780 --> 00:34:00.700
value growth inside that policy. And you control whatever's done

542
00:34:00.700 --> 00:34:03.420
with that. And it's guaranteed to grow, there's nothing you can

543
00:34:03.420 --> 00:34:06.540
do about it. And the longer you have it, the better it gets, the

544
00:34:06.540 --> 00:34:12.020
more money, the more it grows every single year. And then you

545
00:34:12.020 --> 00:34:16.620
become capitalized at a certain point. Right. And I think what

546
00:34:16.739 --> 00:34:22.659
what we probably all realize is, once you have capital, opportunity

547
00:34:22.659 --> 00:34:28.060
will find you. Come on. Yeah. I mean, and right for many reasons,

548
00:34:28.100 --> 00:34:30.940
because one, if you don't have capital for opportunities,

549
00:34:31.060 --> 00:34:34.260
you're not even going to have your eyes, your heart, your mind

550
00:34:34.300 --> 00:34:37.179
open to opportunities, because you have no way to to

551
00:34:37.179 --> 00:34:41.420
participate. But if you have capital, your eyes, your own

552
00:34:41.420 --> 00:34:44.139
your subconscious is going to be open to those opportunities,

553
00:34:44.300 --> 00:34:46.900
you will start seeing those and they will start jumping out at

554
00:34:46.900 --> 00:34:50.260
you left and right. Like they have for me and Boyd and many

555
00:34:50.260 --> 00:34:54.580
other people in my circle, where opportunities are coming, you

556
00:34:54.580 --> 00:34:57.820
know, from every which direction. And now it's a choice

557
00:34:57.820 --> 00:35:00.100
of okay, which is the best

558
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.480
and the right opportunity for us right now.

559
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:05.600
Yeah, I mean, I'm just talking with you guys recently.

560
00:35:05.600 --> 00:35:08.840
I mean, how many how many opportunities do you guys review a month?

561
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:14.240
Well, I think the team, you know, our chief consultant

562
00:35:14.240 --> 00:35:17.800
and his team review a 200 to 250 deals a month.

563
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:23.800
Yeah, most of the process is coming to us by by people approaching us.

564
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.960
Yeah, right. We don't look for anything

565
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:29.400
because at some point you get you get to that point where

566
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:33.120
like anybody who's heavily involved in real estate once they've made a name

567
00:35:33.120 --> 00:35:37.240
for themselves and people know them, they say, well, that person, they can close.

568
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:39.520
And if it's a good deal, they're going to take it.

569
00:35:39.520 --> 00:35:40.520
So here you go.

570
00:35:40.520 --> 00:35:43.200
So, yeah, we get really the pick of the litter, as they say.

571
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.720
I think this is a good place with what they just did

572
00:35:47.520 --> 00:35:51.920
is to go back and ask the question, where else can you get guarantees

573
00:35:52.080 --> 00:35:55.080
on a chunk of change going somewhere where it's not going to be lost?

574
00:35:55.520 --> 00:35:58.560
Where can you get certain regular, predictable rewards?

575
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.520
And where can you continue to own and earn after you've rolled

576
00:36:02.520 --> 00:36:05.280
the equivalent of what you put in, out and go do something else with it?

577
00:36:05.720 --> 00:36:07.920
There is one other place you can get this.

578
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.520
It's with those whole life policies that David was just describing

579
00:36:10.520 --> 00:36:12.880
with a mutual company, because guess what?

580
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:14.800
Mutual companies, guess what business they're in?

581
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.160
Banking insurance business, and it's done on a private basis.

582
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:23.160
They're called mutual companies because they're mutually owned

583
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:25.880
by people like us who have these policies.

584
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:29.240
Mutual companies have customers and we are not them.

585
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.120
We are pro rata owners.

586
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:35.680
In the banking and insurance business with these policies.

587
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:37.640
What does this mean?

588
00:36:37.640 --> 00:36:42.640
It it means that we get all of our money protected under insurance policy.

589
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:46.040
People that have these things during Great Depressions, they don't lose a dollar.

590
00:36:46.080 --> 00:36:49.720
They continue to certainly and predictably regularly earn

591
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.160
even during the Great Depression.

592
00:36:52.160 --> 00:36:56.480
And there's a mechanism which is a kind of I call it a line of credit.

593
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:59.520
I wish the mutual companies did, but they call them global cash value.

594
00:37:00.200 --> 00:37:03.480
You can take a loan against your policy from the mutual company.

595
00:37:03.520 --> 00:37:05.400
It's not a loan from your policy.

596
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:09.200
It's other people's money from the mutual company that you can in turn use.

597
00:37:09.600 --> 00:37:11.800
You get those same three things with these policies.

598
00:37:12.080 --> 00:37:15.400
So we as a community, we basically function

599
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:18.800
like a mutual company in the area of real estate.

600
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:23.040
We do what the mutual companies do with human life value.

601
00:37:23.080 --> 00:37:26.680
We do the same thing with real estate, and we have most of our members.

602
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:31.560
They like having the policies and they like having our community programs

603
00:37:31.560 --> 00:37:34.880
because they're basically they're they're based on the same DNA.

604
00:37:37.200 --> 00:37:40.160
I let me jump in there for a minute.

605
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:43.800
I am we got to we'll start bringing in for a bit of a landing.

606
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:47.760
But the thing that started me on this journey was several years ago.

607
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:49.760
I was in Colorado.

608
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:51.280
I was in Denver.

609
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.400
I listened to an amazing presentation.

610
00:37:53.640 --> 00:37:57.320
I'd never heard of the concept of whole life insurance policies before,

611
00:37:58.200 --> 00:38:02.840
but it's Mr.

612
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:03.600
Nash, Neil Nash.

613
00:38:03.600 --> 00:38:04.920
No, never.

614
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:06.960
Nelson, Nelson, Nelson.

615
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:07.600
There's the book.

616
00:38:07.600 --> 00:38:10.360
I've got the same book just in my cupboard right here.

617
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:11.400
Nelson Nash.

618
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.480
Brad, you're becoming your own banker.

619
00:38:14.640 --> 00:38:16.080
Yeah, look at that.

620
00:38:16.160 --> 00:38:16.720
Look at that.

621
00:38:16.720 --> 00:38:18.880
So a little.

622
00:38:19.560 --> 00:38:24.720
Here we go now, just to warn everybody, that book is currently out of print,

623
00:38:24.720 --> 00:38:27.360
so it's going to cost you about 700 dollars on Amazon.

624
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:28.680
I've got one fresh copy.

625
00:38:28.680 --> 00:38:31.320
I'll sell for 300 if anybody wants it.

626
00:38:31.680 --> 00:38:33.280
But I can't get it.

627
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:34.880
Turn it into an NFT.

628
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:36.400
Yeah, you can get it on.

629
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:37.480
So just go there.

630
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.440
Yeah. So that book, they're becoming your own banker.

631
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:42.640
That's crazy. Look at that.

632
00:38:43.240 --> 00:38:46.920
And the key is the phrase infinite banking down the bottom, infinite banking.

633
00:38:47.520 --> 00:38:51.160
That's that's the reuse of the same value over and over again.

634
00:38:51.160 --> 00:38:53.560
That's what you do when you don't spend money, but you bank it.

635
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:57.760
Yeah. So anyway, I discovered this.

636
00:38:57.800 --> 00:38:59.920
Yeah. Several years ago in Colorado.

637
00:39:00.560 --> 00:39:03.280
So just up the road from where you are right now, Boyd.

638
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:08.320
And I was like, well, this is crazy, but New Zealand doesn't have it.

639
00:39:08.720 --> 00:39:13.160
And I've been like wrestling with this kind of like idea for a number of years.

640
00:39:13.160 --> 00:39:14.560
I've been like, man, how do we do this?

641
00:39:14.560 --> 00:39:17.080
It's not just that easy just to reproduce.

642
00:39:18.240 --> 00:39:20.080
But we've been definitely exploring it.

643
00:39:20.080 --> 00:39:24.000
But I love for what you guys have done is created amazing synergy.

644
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:27.000
So especially people who are in America and Canada want to just,

645
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:29.600
you know, where there are whole life insurance policies.

646
00:39:29.600 --> 00:39:33.360
And we're also in the mentorship after this

647
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:38.080
going to be exploring this with Boyd of how international people can get into

648
00:39:38.080 --> 00:39:40.320
what they're doing, but

649
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:44.440
what that what the whole life insurance policy enables you to do

650
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:47.040
is actually you put money into it. Brilliant.

651
00:39:47.040 --> 00:39:49.800
Actually, you can divert all of your income into it if you want,

652
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:51.880
which gives you more leverage.

653
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:56.400
And so you can actually take an interest free loan from your own policy.

654
00:39:56.680 --> 00:39:58.720
Is that that's how it works, right?

655
00:39:58.720 --> 00:39:59.720
Well, technically.

656
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:07.280
When you take that money, you take it as a loan because you're not taking your own.

657
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:12.000
Let's say this is your cash value. You created an equivalent line of credit over here from a

658
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:16.480
different pot of money, the insurance companies. So you take that as a loan and you are going to

659
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:20.720
pay interest on that. But guess what you're earning over here? You're earning interest

660
00:40:20.720 --> 00:40:25.280
and dividends on the entire amount because your money never left. It's still in there

661
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:29.200
earning for you and just creating more leverage for you to borrow against.

662
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:36.560
But what you're working with with your crew is then taking that money, which you're borrowing

663
00:40:36.560 --> 00:40:41.040
from your whole life insurance policy, and then putting it into your own community's banking

664
00:40:41.040 --> 00:40:45.760
dynamic, which because of the policies, people are actually able to leverage hundreds of thousands of

665
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.120
dollars, drop it in there. And so you're activating this mindset and this understanding around wealth

666
00:40:51.120 --> 00:40:56.480
that is really an elite mindset, which is the velocity of money. So you have your money,

667
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:59.280
making money, making money, making money, making money.

668
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:03.920
And the only way you can do that is you have to offset the risk on the money,

669
00:41:04.560 --> 00:41:10.880
because as long as any type of wealth is under risk, all you can do is hope that you don't lose

670
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:18.640
it and maybe gain. As soon as any kind of wealth is put into a offset risk, you can do infinite

671
00:41:18.640 --> 00:41:23.920
banking. That's what becoming your own banker is. You get into that game. And just to type,

672
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:27.360
because I know you want to land the plane on a loose end here. It's important to understand

673
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:31.040
if you have one of these policies, you're a mutual owner in the mutual company,

674
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.720
because you've got a community of people that have now created the ability to offset risk.

675
00:41:36.720 --> 00:41:41.520
And essentially, it's a private way of self-insuring the members. The key with our

676
00:41:41.520 --> 00:41:46.080
partnership is when we acquire one of those plazas, or one of those office buildings,

677
00:41:46.080 --> 00:41:51.120
or whatever we're acquiring those assets, none of us directly own those assets.

678
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:59.120
We own the holding company that owns the assets. What that means is, is our members effectively

679
00:41:59.120 --> 00:42:03.760
are set up in such a fashion, because of our strength, we're able to, if you will,

680
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:08.480
self-insure every member to create the guarantees that nobody's capital will be lost.

681
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:12.960
And one of the proofs of that is we have an outside insurance company that actually looks

682
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:19.520
at the partnership and says, yep, you guys are a private self-regulated community that's able to

683
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:26.400
take care and self-insure your own members. So sure, well, we'll give you a very special

684
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:30.560
form of casualty insurance over the entire operation called a fidelity bond.

685
00:42:30.560 --> 00:42:35.360
So we actually have an outside insurance policy over the operation. But the only reason we have

686
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:40.960
that is because we are like a mutual company that can self-insure our members, because we have

687
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:48.240
a community that has the power to do that for every member. That's the confirming of the covenant.

688
00:42:49.120 --> 00:42:54.960
The power to create the wealth to confirm when you got people in covenant, you're able to create

689
00:42:55.600 --> 00:42:59.280
the guarantees. And as soon as you start creating guarantees, it means you're in the banking

690
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:05.680
business as an owner. And now you're in position to start discipling some nations around here.

691
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:14.080
Totally. And it's really, that's how you really heavenize the earth. It's from as it is in heaven,

692
00:43:14.080 --> 00:43:20.480
so it is on the earth. This is through that real process of communal covenant confirming

693
00:43:21.040 --> 00:43:30.000
relationship that really establishes a new system for people that's risk-averse in the dynamic that

694
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.760
we're talking about, which is so powerful. Guess what happens when treasure is stored

695
00:43:36.560 --> 00:43:44.400
in heaven? It's where moth and rust do not destroy the wealth. The wealth that is connected to a

696
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:52.720
heavenly storehouse is permanent wealth. That's the key. Everything else is moth rust gets a

697
00:43:52.720 --> 00:43:59.120
hold of it. And all you can do there is eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow you die. That's

698
00:43:59.120 --> 00:44:05.440
the economy that gives rise to all forms of status control over capital, crony capitalism,

699
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:12.080
and also centralized forms of capitalism in the form of Marxism. They're both status controls.

700
00:44:12.080 --> 00:44:18.640
Those are both perversions of capital. The key is when we place capital in a format

701
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:25.040
that is in our kingdom format, we're in the business of using that capital to do what?

702
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:30.960
To capitalize others in the community so that they can become permanent owners. This is the

703
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:35.280
whole thing about leaving Egypt, going into the desert, and then into the promised land. When

704
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:42.240
you go into the promised land, you've transitioned from working for somebody else as a slave to

705
00:44:42.240 --> 00:44:50.400
becoming a permanent owner. It is not just ownership. It is placing wealth in a format

706
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:56.880
where you can offset the economic effects of death. What I love about these whole life policies,

707
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:59.840
there is a column of numbers with every

708
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:08.960
whole life policy that's headed by a very odd phrase. It's called death benefit. What a crazy

709
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:16.480
odd phrase. What that is saying is that's the portion of the future wealth that you're going

710
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:21.760
to create, that if you're not here on the planet creating it, it's still going to go to your heirs.

711
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:25.280
In other words, what we're doing with the policies, what we're doing with our communities,

712
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:31.840
we're offsetting the economic effects of death. That means that we are doing an economy that

713
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the Babylonians will never be able to do. It's an economy of infinite banking, an economy of

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permanent wealth, and once wealth is permanentized, you can create fruitfulness by multiplication.

715
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We are not given the command to be fruitful and just add. It's be fruitful, multiply,

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fill the earth, subdue it. Our fruitfulness must be in the form of multiplication. Otherwise,

717
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we are not going to be discipling any nations. The moment you get into wealth and multiplication,

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then you're in a position to start fulfilling Deuteronomy 28.

719
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Fantastic. Hey, well, we'll be really excited. I know that for a lot of people,

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these concepts might be like, wow, that's really interesting, kind of intriguing,

721
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like capturing them, but not like fully landing. And definitely for me, it took a good

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period of time to kind of soak in it and really get my head around it. So we'll be really excited

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to have Boyd back during the mentorship program as well. And we'll see, we might be able to get

724
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Dave in for that as well. But I have chatted to Boyd about this in the mentorship program

725
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to be able to create some opportunity for you guys to actually really sit a little bit more

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and go a little bit deeper and understand some of these concepts more thoroughly,

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because they're very exciting, very, very powerful. And we are working on creating

728
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some portals or some pathways together for how international people can participate

729
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in this. So that's a process and an infrastructure that we're working on at the moment.

730
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Yeah. But if you're in the U.S. and you feel the itching to get started in this process

731
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with you guys, what's the best step forward?

732
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I suppose they could email either one of us. My email is dave at centerpoint.partners.

733
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And Boyd, what's yours?

734
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Yeah, it's bmorris at centerpoint.partners. And yeah, we can be sure everybody is able

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to contact us. And then we just personalize and customize this kind of conversation that we have

736
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had here that Benji just said that we can have in some other forums and group settings. It's really,

737
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Dave and I just love to meet with people one-on-one and personalize and customize all of

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this in a way that creates what we call a roadmap, a personalized way of taking people,

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anybody from where they're at to where they want to go. And we create a roadmap in between those

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two points. And it takes all of this kind of conversation and makes it very concrete,

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graspable. And there you go.

742
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So amazing. Well, gentlemen, what a gift to the planet. And

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I think that the more that people kind of lean in and see what you've created and the impact of it

744
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and the capacity of it and the just everything about it, I think the more they lean into it

745
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and the more that they connect with you guys as well and just see like your heart and something

746
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that you probably won't know about Boyd is that he is a bishop. And yeah, so he's got a number of

747
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books he's written. Something you won't know about David is that he's an ex-fighter pilot.

748
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These guys are just amazing. And when you get to know their stories and their hearts and their

749
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journey, you will just fall more and more in love with them, with what they're creating.

750
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And I love your phrase, Boyd, about heavenizing Earth. And that's really your heart and your

751
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motivation is how do we actually bring the infrastructure of heaven and establish it

752
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systemically into the Earth? But it has to start somewhere. It has to start in community.

753
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And I love how you guys have communicated to people the power of community, that we do have

754
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massive leverage in community. And you guys have created the systems and the opportunity for people

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to jump on board and flow into that. So I guess on behalf of the whole planet, thank you for what

756
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you guys are doing.

757
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Yeah, thanks for giving us the opportunity to share.

758
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Seb, any final thoughts from you, my man?

759
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No, I love it so much.

760
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I'm excited for this, some momentum to just keep building in this space.

761
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And, you know, for us as a movement with raising royalty,

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but also this cross-pollination of partnership with helping people really understand that

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if you can think about your finances the way heaven thinks about your finances,

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then everything is limitless before you.

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And so this is a cool place to be.

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So I'm excited to be on the journey with you guys.

767
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Fantastic.

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Hey, next up we have Marina with a phenomenal story.

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So, so powerful.

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Grew up in Tajikistan during a complete economic collapse

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and the whole nation went into crazy poverty.

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And, I mean, that had huge ramifications on her, on her family,

773
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and how actually just completely destroyed everything really when that collapse came.

774
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But her journey of rising from the ashes out of that place,

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we're so excited about that.

776
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But Dave, would you close for us in prayer as we wrap up?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Father God, we just thank you for this time.

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Lord, I just thank you for Benji and Sebastian,

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Boyd and all the other presenters here and all the attendees.

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Lord, we're just looking for a way to build your kingdom through the principles

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that you've already laid out to us.

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Help us keep our eyes open, our hearts and our minds open to,

784
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to the way you're speaking to us about just how to, how to build this community,

785
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how to bring heaven to earth.

786
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And Lord just bless the rest of this, this event.

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And I just thank you for everybody here who's a part of it.

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In Jesus' name we pray.

789
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Amen.

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Amen.

791
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Fantastic.

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Thank you so much, gentlemen.

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Have a wonderful rest of your day, and we look forward to journeying further.

794
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And for those that are keen to go deeper,

795
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I see Rachel's dropping email addresses in the comments at the moment,

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which is cool.

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We'll send you guys email addresses as well so you can connect with these guys.

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But thank you so much.

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And we look forward to more in the mentorship and more in the days to come.

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So bless you.

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Bye guys.

802
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Bye guys.
