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All right, fam, I believe we're just about in the live zone.

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Yes, here we are. We're live.

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All right, the light. Oh, yes.

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Ladies and gentlemen, it is an absolute delight to be here with

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Kelly Frazier, and we are going to have a very needed, rich, deep, beautiful grounding

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session that I think everyone is going to get immense value out of.

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So Kelly, why don't you tell us where you are and how you're doing right now?

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Well, I am from South Carolina in the States. And how am I doing? Listen, you guys,

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I have never, ever heard as many speakers all collectively talking about new culture,

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new economy, new finance, new everything just about that has been so like mind blowing.

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I kept saying, wow, wow, if I had a nickel for every time I said, wow,

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I'd be pretty wealthy right now. I thought you said nipple.

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Nickel.

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Nickel.

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Oh, my.

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You definitely said nickel, but that's not what I heard.

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What was he saying about grounding?

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Yeah, I know. My apologies. I've got a lot of issues that I'm working through myself.

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That's fine.

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We don't have we don't have nickels in New Zealand.

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Yeah, but I believe in nickels. They're a real thing. So everyone, great to have you guys joining

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us. We're going to have such a blast in this session. It's going to be a real recap session.

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We're going to be able to ground some stuff. And Kelly's got amazing training on wealth

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wealth mindsets and how to transition to wealth mindsets, which we're going to

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touch on as well. Seb, how are you doing?

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I'm doing great. I'm doing really great. It's charging. This whole summit is charged with

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this conversation that God really is having right now. As we deep dive into wealth

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mindsets, the way God is thinking and talking about money and this, you can't get around

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the reality that that this is a conversation on the heart of God for such a time as this,

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that is perpetually moving deeper and deeper into the heart of the church and God's people.

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And we we're at the center of it, you know, and this one, I'm so so grateful to be with you,

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because you you're also a pioneer and helping God's people think the way we need to think

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in order to receive what he's doing. So it's it's good stuff. Excited for the session to

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come on, come on. Well, massive love to everyone who's tracking with us with your

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mind. Will you join us for the replay? So good to be with you. Big shout out to Jimmy Emery.

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I see them a man. So we're going to line it up. Kelly, why don't you pray for us? I feel like

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praying and loosing some fire as well. So you pray, Seb, if you feel like praying, we can just

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go all in as well. Absolutely. Holy Father, all of this has just been so incredible. And we just

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want to give you honor and glory for every single aspect, every single speaker, every single

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listener, every person that has shown up to this event is here for a purpose. And so, Father, we

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just want to spread your joy, your love and your glory all over it in this conversation. Father,

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I can't even imagine the energy that men have to have today to keep all of this going. But I just

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know that it comes from you. And we just praise you and honor you for that. Father, we thank you

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for these mindset shifts that we're all making today. We thank you for the burning of your Holy

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Ghost. And has no concept of anything that is evil right now that we just pour all of your glory

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this conversation. Father, we love you. We thank you. We praise you. And we ask that you will bless

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us as we converse, as we recap, and as we just pour your love into all of these shifts that we're

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making today. Amen. Amen. Papa, I thank you right now. I thank you for some fresh fire

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on our minds right now that is going to allow us. Lord, what we need right now is we need some

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supercharged grace. Lord, we need you to help fast track us into the mind of Christ. Lord, the vastness

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of the mind.

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of Christ is calling out to us to launch into an adventure, into the infinite, an adventure

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into the limitless. And Lord, we need some fresh grace, some fresh fire, some fresh anointing

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to help us bridge the gap from where we are into the limitlessness of the mind of Christ. So Papa,

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I thank you for your presence right now, resting on every person. I thank you for your spirit right

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now, resting on every person. Lord, I thank you for your thick, tangible, manifest glory coming

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upon every person. I thank you for a fresh baptism in the fire of your love coming on every heart.

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Papa, we thank you for Nick's message last night about the radical love of God propelling us into

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everything that we're doing. So Papa, I just ask that that fresh fire that flows from the

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radical love that you carry for individuals and for nations, may that fresh fire, may it catch

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up in our hearts, in our spirits right now. May there be a fresh excitement, a fresh energy released

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in us, Lord, to pursue the limitless, to pursue the fullness of what you have for us. So I'm saying,

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Papa, give us grace right now to renew our minds. Give us grace right now to agree with you. Give

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us grace right now to align with the mind of Christ. And Papa, I declare blueprints being

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released right now, strategies being released right now, revelation and wisdom being

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released right now. I thank you for angels being mobilized and activated around our lives right

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now. I thank you for the realm of heaven being activated around our lives. Lord, every aspect

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and facet of heaven, Lord, the cloud of witnesses, the men in white linen, Lord, the living creatures,

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Lord, the angels, every aspect and facet and element of heaven, we welcome you. We engage you.

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You say, stand with us, join with us, the spirit of the Lord, the spirit of wisdom and revelation,

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the spirit of counsel, the spirit of understanding, the spirit of knowledge, the spirit of

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might and the spirit of the fear of the Lord. But we say, release the seven spirits moved by your

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power. Come around us right now and activate us for a whole new dimension that we have never

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walked and take us beyond everything we've known, beyond everything we've ever experienced.

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Take us Lord into Ephesians 3.20 where we're seeing the exceedingly abundantly above and

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beyond what we've ever did to ask, dream, pray, think, or even imagine. Papa, do a fresh work in

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us right now for every person that's a part of this, for every person that's listening now and

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in the future. Papa, breathe on us and take us into that dimension where we are discipling nations

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with you in Jesus name, amen. Amen. I feel so good right now. Okay, so God, the Holy Ghost was just

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talking to me during this whole time of prayer and this is what I think grounding looks like.

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So if you would all do me a huge favor and just for just a moment, just take a slow deep breath

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in and just hold it for a second and then let it out and when you let it out, just release

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everything that God wants to release in you. Just let it all go because this time right now

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of all of us being together, this is a time where we have to recognize that God breathed the breath

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of life into us. So our breath is so vitally important and being able to just bring it in

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and just release it and it's going to release so much more. Everything that Benji just prayed,

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it's going to release so much more in you and when your mind becomes clear, all of the creativity

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comes right back. I just praise God for that. I praise God for the both of you guys. It is just,

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it's been amazing. I want to share a couple of things that I've learned through everything I've

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done. Just as you're doing that, I just want to say as well, I can just feel the atmosphere right now

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is pregnant with impartation and like when we talked about with Todd yesterday, so much of what

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we actually can learn to do is shift from toil to actually manifesting in the spirit. I just want to

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say what Kelly's saying is as you're breathing in, I just want you to just hold that thought for a

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moment of breathing in. As you're breathing in, when you're breathing in, just consciously place

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yourself in this place of agreement, saying yes to every wild crazy thing that God has for you.

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What I'm seeing around is just this pregnancy in the spirit with, okay, here's a blueprint,

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here's a dream, here's an opportunity, here's an open door, here's a grace, here's a divine

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appointment, here's a witty invention. I can just see it exploding all around us and being pregnant

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with us and it's along the lines as well of we're great, we're sin abounds, grace much more abounds

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and we're seeing that this week, right, chaos all around the world but we're sin abounds, grace much more.

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So in the atmosphere, what you have access to in the spirit right now is greater blueprints,

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greater witty inventions, greater solutions.

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It's in the spirit right now.

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And as you breathe in, like Callie's saying, do it from a perspective and a position of

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agreement and alignment saying, yes, God, I breathe it all in.

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I receive it where sin abounds, grace much more abounds.

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So I receive the unfolding unlimited realms of grace right now.

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So good.

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Okay, guys, I have to tell you, I have to tell you, I'm so excited to share these things

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because I haven't, I don't think I've been on every single one, but I've been on most

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of them.

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And these were some of my takeaways and they're so powerful.

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So Pastor Todd Weatherly, I think his name, he started wisdom, right?

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We're supposed to run after wisdom.

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We're supposed to have this prophetic scroll in the books.

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We know of scripture that the will of God and our identity is so important to our sonship.

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He talked about generosity, which is just a trait and a treasure of godliness, which

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is so powerful.

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Then we had Stephanie Lind who had the knowledge of good and evil in order to unpattern yourself

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from sin, that unpatterning, if that's a word, I've just made it up.

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I don't know, but the unpatterning of your sin, you have to understand what good and

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evil looks like.

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And I didn't for the longest time.

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A lot of Christians don't.

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Benji, you talked about the state of being to lean in and to grow in the overflow of

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God's goodness and love.

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Really, really powerful.

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Nick Boyd, he talked about the radical sacrifices and he and his wife that made on the mission

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field.

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Guys, if you have not watched that, you have got to go back and watch Nick Boyd's.

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It was incredible what he shared about the mission field and what they've been through.

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And then Sebastian, you shared about, you don't often hear messages of business on the

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same stage as the radical life of surrender and how incredible it is to hear the goals

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at the end of the day, being all about that godliness that we can bring into our businesses,

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which is incredible.

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And then Bruce McDonald, he had those four purposes for money, the two trees that look

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differently to God, as well as money looking differently to God, right?

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He talked about from Matthew 9, 17 and 18, spending, giving, savings and investing, which

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was amazing.

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Shortage to sufficiency to overflow and how powerful it is when Christians actually come

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out and say, I'm having financial difficulties and I need to know how to sow more before

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they begin to reap because so many Christians don't know how to do that.

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And so being able to invest, which is what we're talking a lot about today and yesterday

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and tomorrow, we have to know how to sow before we can actually learn to invest.

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And sometimes it can happen consecutively, but God's growing all of that within us.

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And then we had Sean and Greg, random consensus, the banking, the anchoring in the value of

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the coin on the last highest price of gold and the exchange and the attempt to dissolve

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volatility of the blockchain.

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This is where my brain was starting to go, right?

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We had Boyd who talks about Christ and recapitalizing on all things on heaven and earth and never

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spending your capital.

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And then of course, Eric and Eric was talking all about this incredible NFT that he has

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and I mean, those were really the ones I heard David and Katie too on the real estate investing

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powerful stuff.

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You guys, I'm sure I missed somebody cause I didn't.

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When we just came off Marina, which what a story.

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I don't know if you got to hear that, but the depths of her story is wild.

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Whoa.

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And now how she's like in that space of actually breaking the cycles of human trafficking and

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oh, so much goodness.

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Amazing.

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Just powerful, powerful stuff.

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So that's what I learned.

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Those were my takeaways.

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And if you guys are listening and if you had some takeaways from anything that we just

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talked about, please put those in the comments.

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We would love to know what your takeaways are.

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That's all.

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Kelly, I'm curious, where did this journey begin for you?

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Like where did this like whole, like what was the like sparking moment for you of, you

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know, God is having a conversation about wealth and I got to be a part of it.

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When did that happen for you?

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Well, that part didn't happen for quite some time, actually.

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I had a traumatic.

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brain injury in 2007. Um, and that, that healing side of it took me into, uh, writing books. He

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gave me three visions during the healing process. And my little 11 year old daughter was my caregiver

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at the time. And when I'm watching her walk out the door one day, I remember these words as I was

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flying through the air before I hit the pavement and had the brain injury. I remember hearing these

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words that came out of my mouth, but I did not know who said them. And it was Jesus saved me.

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They came flying out of my mouth. And that was the last thought that I had who said that,

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right? So it was six months after her taking care of me, I was paralyzed on my right side.

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Sometimes not all the time. Um, I really had like a toddler brain. Some days next day could

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be a teenager. You just never knew who you were going to get. And this little girl,

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she became an adult very quickly. Um, and watching her walk out the door one day,

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I remember those words. And then the next morning I had told God, if this is what it's going to be

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like, I don't want to wake up tomorrow morning. Cause I watched her walk out the door and I'm

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thinking she's my mommy. I'm not her. She's mine. That's just not right. And so the very next

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morning, it was the most incredible thing. I found myself sitting up right on my bed and my,

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I was cognitively thinking. And when I sat up, there was no pain in my body anywhere.

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And I started touching my neck and my chest and I'm like, am I dreaming? Did I die? Is this heaven

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in my bedroom? Like I had no idea. And so I'm looking out my bedroom window and it was pitch

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black, but there was so much light in my room. And that was when I started seeing these visions

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of, I had written tons of books. I was speaking to people from all around the globe. And then

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there were these faces that were just shooting at me of people that I had impacted. And I honestly,

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if you had known me before the brain injury, my husband can attest. I am a completely different

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individual today than what I was prior to the brain injury. I was mortifyingly introverted,

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seriously, mortifyingly introverted. And so who I am today is someone completely different. But

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God showed me those visions. I looked at them and I was like, how is any of that supposed to happen?

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And all I heard internally was trust me. And when I heard that, I knew he was giving me a choice.

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I could make a decision. The decision was to trust him for me. There was no other choice

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right in my mind, but I said, okay, I came into agreement. Just what Benji talks about.

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So when I came into agreement, that was when everything began to like speed up. Like,

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like I seriously, I've written 12 books now, I think. So there's that stack of books that I saw

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on the table. I've spoken to so many different people. I actually went to Denver, Colorado,

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and I took my entire team there to do an event there. I mean, so many things have happened that

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God showed me. That's where the whole wealth building process came in. But it wasn't until

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just recently, like over the last couple of years that he actually started teaching me in a way from

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the book of Proverbs about wealth and about how to increase it. And it gave me strategies behind

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it. So that's, that's where it came from. That's awesome. I love that. Thank you for sharing.

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God is so good to just, just open up new pathways. It's like he, I'm thinking when

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you're sharing your story, like the book, the shack, I don't know if you've read,

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heard that book, kind of like Mackenzie in the book, has a crash, and then goes through this

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encounter journey, and then encounters the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit in this new way and comes

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out is completely different person on the other side of it. It's kind of like you've had that

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experience where expansion, the expansion of the Father, the expansion of the Son, the expansion of

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the Spirit at all just made a huge impression and radically changed the trajectory of life

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through something that could have been very traumatic. And so it's, it's so cool to see

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God work like that. It's so powerful. It is powerful. I think sometimes we, like, I don't

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know how you guys, how your life went. If you're married, Sebastian, I don't, I don't know you very

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well. So I don't know, are you married? Okay. So sometimes we grow much faster than our spouse

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does. Right. And if you're not growing together at the same rate, then you kind of feel like you're

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leaving someone behind and that's... Yeah, I was about like that the last nine months or so.

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A lot has just been growing and like... Yes, yes, you're losing, you're losing, your life is growing.

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Yeah, I've been losing, yeah, we've just been like drifting apart.

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That's right. We're booked in Tuesday for a Caesarean, so...

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Yes. I think we're going to have a balancing out.

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Guys, I'm interrupting here a little bit, but there is so much glory in my office right

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now that I'm even like, have had a couple of moments where I've almost like phased out

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a little bit, but I just wanted to like pause here for a moment and just release the presence

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over people for a moment just because it is so weighty and so thick and so rich and so

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beautiful and the manifest glory of God that's come all around me right now.

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And if there's one thing I know is that every good thing, every gift from above come as

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every good thing is a gift from the father of life and in this presence, in this glory

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realm that you are going to get insane downloads, abundance of everything.

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So I declare right now, release fresh waves of the manifest glory of God over you.

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And there's a time I didn't even know that there was such a thing as that tangible presence

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of God.

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So I declare breakthroughs over you into new experiences, new realms of the manifest glory

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of God coming around you, your supernatural love of God, baptizing you permanently.

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I declare a permanent baptism, whoa, in the supernatural manifestation of the glory of

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God that you will live in that perpetual state of being of immersed, baptized, undone,

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overwhelmed in his love and his fire and his glory in Jesus name and out of that place

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of oneness and union and intimacy, may heaven explode through every part of your body and

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soul and spirit and every cell and every pore of your being like you have never known

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in Jesus name.

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So I declare a deeper immersion, a perpetual immersion in the richness of the glory in

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Jesus name.

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And as it does, I declare revelation is popping open like never before.

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Woody inventions, divine appointments, it's all getting expedited, accelerated.

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I prophesy that over your life and not just over your life, but over the body of Christ

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right now.

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I prophesy freedom is breaking out.

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I prophesy people are getting out of control in the name of Jesus.

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I prophesy freedom is breaking out.

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Massive connection.

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I can just see this breaking out all over the earth right now.

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Massive connection by the spirit of God of divine appointments.

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There's going to be strategic alliances, Woody, just inventions coming, downloads coming.

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I just see this huge wave of breaking out over the earth right now in Jesus name.

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So even right now is a Kairos moment in the earth where God is releasing a whole wave

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and it's, listen, this is attached to the justice of God right now.

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The justice of God right now is raising up.

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There's like a holy sense of injustice in the heart of God and one of the ways that

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he's bringing justice on the earth is the massive release of grace that's coming upon

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you right now.

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So you've got to understand this is a Kairos moment where your capacity is more within

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grasp than ever before.

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So receive downloads, receive blueprints, receive faith explosions, receive baptisms,

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receive outpourings, receive just a fresh release of provision like you've never seen.

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There's a wave you've never seen coming and it's hitting right now in Jesus name.

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Well, that felt good.

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I could feel that building up.

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You carry on, Kelly, because you're on fire right now.

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Well, you know something, just the love of the Lord.

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When you feel that powerful love of the Lord, you cannot help but impart it into someone

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else.

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And isn't that what he tells us to be?

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The light?

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Aren't we supposed to be the light on the hill?

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And when you do sit there and have this conversation with God and you're filled with so much love

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and so much of his glory and knowing his heart, you can't help but have these experiences.

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Maybe you're not used to hearing Benji pray the way Benji prays.

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Maybe nobody else in your life prays the way Benji prays or prays the way I pray or prays

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the way Seth prays.

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But the truth of the matter is every single one of us are uniquely created to glorify

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God and to praise him the way he wants to be praised by us.

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And so I love the fact that I'm doing this children's show and so many times I will hear

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people say, okay, okay, fold your hands and close your eyes and now you pray.

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Jesus prayed like this to the Father in heaven and aren't we supposed to be like Jesus?

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Scripture gives us six or seven, I think it's six ways of how to pray differently.

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So, I love it, Benji, when you break into this and you just announce God's glory.

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I love it because you are unafraid, totally, it's just totally open and being in agreement

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with the Holy Ghost.

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And I love it.

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Come on.

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Oh, wow.

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Charge ahead, Kelly.

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I'm so, I'm so, I'm like, I'm intrigued.

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I'm on the edge of my seat for what you're about to bring.

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Well, listen, I'm, I'm so excited about what we've been hearing on this whole entire summit

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that there is a palpable and powerful ways of being.

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And as you show up, you get to decide who you want to be.

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Either you're going to be who you were yesterday, or you're going to be who you are going to

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be with the Lord and coming into agreement with him.

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There are four ways of giving that I want to share with you.

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And a lot of times people get pushed back when it comes to giving, but we've heard over

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and over and over on these, on these episodes here that Benji's been giving with Seb, that

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generosity is something from God.

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And so I really want to unpack what generosity looks like to God, and we've touched on some

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of it.

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Some of your guests have really touched like first fruits, like we heard about the first

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fruits.

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So what, from a practical standpoint, what does a first fruit actually look like, right?

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Let's just say that you got this incredible bonus.

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My husband's actually getting ready to have this incredible bonus come in and he's anticipating

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it.

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But what if you took the first fruits from that bonus that you may have gotten or received

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this first part of this year, right?

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It's February.

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We're on, we're still on that, on that pace of having this fiscal year, right?

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May have just started for some of you.

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So take that bonus and divide whatever God's asking you, that percentage that God is asking

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you and give him that first fruit.

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And why is that important to God?

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Do you know when, um, back in, with the children of Israel, every time a lamb was born, if

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that lamb was pure, it was brought as a sacrifice, right?

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This is kind of the same thing with your first fruit.

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It's like a sacrifice that you're giving to God, but it comes from your heart.

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And sometimes we may have that resistance, but if you literally will just do it, you

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are going to see incredible power come from that.

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I've seen it over and over in my own life from the first fruits.

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And there's a second way of giving, which is called alms.

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Now maybe you've not heard of alms before, and maybe you might think of it as, oh, I

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don't know.

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But alms comes from like palm branches, right?

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The alms, and the alms that we give to the poor is a way to discreetly do it so that

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they are uplifted, that they are still feeling like they have dignity.

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You don't go and announce it to somebody.

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Those are giving alms to people.

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This kind of generosity, oh, I got chills all over me.

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This kind of generosity is what it creates incredible momentum for the kingdom of God.

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And you may not even know.

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So let me just share one example of an alms, and you may not have thought about it like

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this because you might still be thinking it's just money, okay?

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So I get my bags of fruit.

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It's just my husband and I.

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So where I shop at, it comes in bulk.

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one basket or one bag, and I decide with God who to give that bag to.

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Over and over, just this past week alone, I have had three people come to me and say,

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you know, that bag of fruit that you brought that day, I decided I wanted to be just like

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I mean, I'm just saying this because that was not me.

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That was God telling me that this is what I was to go and do.

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So alms can look like a bag of fruit for somebody.

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You just don't know unless you come into agreement with God that, yeah, this is what you're going

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to do, okay?

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Now we've talked about tithe.

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We know what tithing is.

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Most of us do.

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But that 10%, think about this.

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If everything, like everything you see behind me, if all of this belongs to God, then it

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all belongs to God.

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I'm excited to steward this, right?

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And the same thing with your money.

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If your money, if every bit of your money belongs to God, he's giving you 90% to do

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whatever you want to with it, and just that 10% is all he's asking you to do.

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And to give that 10% to wherever it is that he calls you to give to.

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Now we have been conditioned to believe you got to put it in that little basket at church,

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that tithing...

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Whatever God tells you to tithe is giving to God.

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It's giving back to him.

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It's stewarding your tithe, OK?

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Then the last one is seed.

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This is another generous giving type that you can do to God.

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Because when you plant that seed,

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God is going to return to you.

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He talks about this, doesn't he?

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How many fold?

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10, 30, 60, 100?

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I mean, we know that God is going

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to give us that ROI, return on investment.

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But that's not why we do the seed money.

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We do the seed money from our heart

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because that's what God requires of us, to have the seed money.

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that is just an incredible blessing of wealth

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from the Father because you come into agreement with him.

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So again, those four different types of giving.

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It's first fruits, it's alms, seed, and tithe.

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Those are just the ways that you can show generosity

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to God himself and to the people around you.

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What love, what love it shows the people around you

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when you're doing these things.

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And don't misunderstand.

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Don't hear what I'm not saying because I'm not saying

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that it's all about the money.

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I'm not saying that.

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It can be your time.

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It can be your love.

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It can be just a devotion of some kind, right?

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You sit with God.

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You determine what that looks like.

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So I just wanted to share that piece of it at least

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because I kept hearing, you know, first fruits and tithing

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and all these things.

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And I just wanted people to understand

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the different types of giving.

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That's cool.

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And I love it.

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Yeah, in the Jewish culture,

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the concept of righteousness and generosity are interwoven.

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Like you can't separate righteousness

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and generosity as a concept.

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That's a, yeah, that's pretty, pretty cool.

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Like your righteousness was viewed by others

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based on like, oh, how generous are they?

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And it's like, oh yeah, they're a righteous person

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because they live in generosity.

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I mean, what a great compliment to hear, you know,

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that you, I just know whenever someone compliments me

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about this, I know who they're saying and it's not me.

440
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And I'm constantly giving the glory to God

441
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because I just know, I know who Kelly Frazier is

442
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or who she was.

443
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And it's not the same person when they see Christ in me

444
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and through me.

445
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And so I love the fact that we can just be generous

446
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because of who Christ says that we are

447
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and stepping into that.

448
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Oh.

449
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:35.720
Yeah.

450
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Love it.

451
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:39.240
So good.

452
00:32:41.080 --> 00:32:41.920
Oh.

453
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Yeah.

454
00:32:45.760 --> 00:32:47.120
I mean, this is glorious.

455
00:32:47.120 --> 00:32:49.960
I mean, you know, I think you were right.

456
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.200
You hit on something important that, you know,

457
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:55.000
people do often can get a little triggered

458
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:58.240
when it comes to money and generosity in the church.

459
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:02.360
But there's a saying that there's a guy

460
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who he lives in Newport Beach.

461
00:33:04.800 --> 00:33:09.760
He has a podcast called I Like Giving

462
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and I don't get to listen to it much,

463
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.080
but I just, that thought has just carried with me

464
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a little bit.

465
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:17.720
It's really the, you know,

466
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:20.040
the declaration that you're coming to, right?

467
00:33:20.040 --> 00:33:24.320
Is like, if we were to have a culture where in the church,

468
00:33:24.320 --> 00:33:29.320
where we have this real like energy of abundance

469
00:33:29.360 --> 00:33:31.920
attached to giving,

470
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that cheerful giving that is really spoken about

471
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in the scriptures.

472
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.520
If we can actually, not out of begrudging,

473
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try to be happy when we give,

474
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but like actually like partner with joy

475
00:33:44.040 --> 00:33:48.960
as we give the expansion on that is so, so immense.

476
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.080
So, you know, we, it's,

477
00:33:51.080 --> 00:33:53.200
you can't have a conversation about wealth

478
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:56.160
without having a conversation about generosity.

479
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It doesn't exist.

480
00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.280
You know, it's so powerful, Kelly.

481
00:33:59.280 --> 00:34:02.480
Imagine if God wasn't generous, right?

482
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:04.560
Right?

483
00:34:05.560 --> 00:34:07.760
And how many times we've heard him say,

484
00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:09.639
I mean, we've heard so many people say,

485
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.400
at least I have, you can never out give God, right?

486
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:13.360
We know that.

487
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.280
We could, we can't.

488
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I mean-

489
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And I mean, that's another,

490
00:34:17.520 --> 00:34:20.360
just a beautiful dynamic of the renewed mind

491
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:25.080
as it brings you into unprecedented levels of generosity.

492
00:34:25.080 --> 00:34:27.239
And yeah, so that's so good.

493
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:28.719
Generosity is where it's at.

494
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.920
Let's nail that and be strategic and wise

495
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:34.920
and bubbling over in our generosity.

496
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:36.400
So good, Kelly.

497
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:37.280
Amen.

498
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.440
Okay, so here's another thing that God had taught me.

499
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And this really came shortly after the brain injury,

500
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:46.480
but it didn't really set in stone

501
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:48.040
until I started reading Proverbs.

502
00:34:48.040 --> 00:34:52.840
And guys, if you have not read Proverbs in chapter two

503
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:54.760
and in chapter 22,

504
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:56.639
that's really where God taught me

505
00:34:56.639 --> 00:35:00.200
about how to steward the money that we have.

506
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:09.000
And it was just a profound shift in my life and this little envelope system, a lot of you have probably heard of the jar system or the envelope system.

507
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:17.000
And I was able to go to a conference one day that someone literally taught us this whole system.

508
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:26.000
And I said to my husband one day, I said, babe, because remember, when your brain injured, this is kind of weird, you guys.

509
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:31.000
But money and numbers, I'll just say numbers, not money, but numbers were out here.

510
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:37.000
And it was like in order for me to to get a number in my head, I literally felt like I had to grab it and put it in my brain.

511
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:43.000
I know that sounds so bizarre, but that's literally how it felt when I was in that situation.

512
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:49.000
So my husband had to take over all the finances, which at that point in time I was doing all the finances.

513
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:57.000
So when he took it over, I really did not want anything to do with it because I was afraid that if I got it, I would totally mess it up.

514
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:00.000
Right. So for years he was doing the finances.

515
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:07.000
And one day after going through the seminar, I came back and I said, babe, I'm just curious about something.

516
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:15.000
Like, do we have debt? Now, that sounds like such a naive question because it is because like I said, I was brain injured.

517
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:25.000
I did not want to do the finances. Now, all of a sudden he's telling me how in debt we literally were hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.

518
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:34.000
And I was devastated and I did not know how to overcome the feelings of being overcome with debt.

519
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:38.000
OK, so I went internal, came into my office, laid flat on my floor.

520
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:44.000
And I'm like, Lord Jesus, you've got to help us. I had no idea that this is what was happening.

521
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:51.000
And so this is the concept that he brought me to learning how to divide up in percentages.

522
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:56.000
And again, this is what we learned earlier. Right. Spending, giving savings and investing.

523
00:36:56.000 --> 00:37:05.000
I decided that there were going to be certain pockets of money that we needed to have based on those four things.

524
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:12.000
OK, but then there were a few more things that wasn't in there that I understood, like education, because I our daughter was growing up.

525
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:18.000
I knew she was going to have to go to college at some point if she wanted to. And that, of course, came into play.

526
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:23.000
So education was part of that as well. But let me just show you what I ended up doing.

527
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:28.000
OK, this is where the practical side of what we were talking about earlier today in one of those sessions.

528
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:33.000
This is the practicality that you can put into place right now today.

529
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:39.000
Just divide up the different percentages that you have. And if you can see this long term spending and savings.

530
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:46.000
OK, see the percentage that I have there. So every part of our income that gets 12 percent.

531
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:52.000
OK, this was always the first one that I love to do. The give, of course, is the 10 percent.

532
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:59.000
And yes, I would cheat a lot in that one to my husband's dismay.

533
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:06.000
I would you know, I would I would rob our play account and put more into the give account and then necessities.

534
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:12.000
Right. This is what he was talking about. You have to have money to spend. That was that was a large part of it.

535
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:22.000
50 percent would go in there. What comes out of their gas, food, electric, doctor bills, all of these things that we know we have to have 50 percent of our income.

536
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:31.000
That's where it went to. OK, but then there was an account that when I heard this, I said, no, really, this was an important account.

537
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:37.000
You see that play and entertainment. Now, who would think of that?

538
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:42.000
Right. Play and entertainment. Not a lot of people would do that, but let me ask you a question.

539
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:53.000
How many times have you said to your husband, hey, should we go to dinner tonight or could we go see a movie or maybe you could go dancing or something?

540
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:58.000
I mean, I don't know what you do for entertainment, but I know. Pardon?

541
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:07.000
I just be silly. Yeah, I love it. I love it. I actually yeah, I mean, I do that all the time, especially.

542
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:13.000
Oh, my gosh. Last Saturday, it was one of those days where two things are happening.

543
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:22.000
One, I just had the serious munchies. I just I've been working out real hard and I just had this huge like hunger for meat.

544
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:27.000
And also Lana's kind of like had a pretty crash day and kind of had the flu and was like, oh, I was like, no, let's do it.

545
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So I just got this massive feast for all of us and we just feasted so much.

546
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:38.000
We ate like five different types of meat and it was amazing. Wow.

547
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:43.000
That was great. Yes, I know about that play and entertain. I'm going to put some money in that account.

548
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:48.000
Exactly. OK, so here's what happens. You the guilt that you sometimes feel.

549
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:55.000
You kind of go, oh, we never should have spent that much money on dinner, especially if it was like, you know, 150 or whatever for two people.

550
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.000
You're like, oh, I never should have spent that money. I never feel that way anymore.

551
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:00.000
If we have that in that play account.

552
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.280
because we've literally set that aside, then that's something that you get to enjoy. And that's not

553
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:11.840
something that most people would think about. But listen, you guys, God sent me to Israel to learn

554
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:17.040
how to have fun. He literally told me he was sending me to Israel to teach me how to have fun.

555
00:40:17.040 --> 00:40:22.160
I was way too serious about my life and he wanted to teach me how to have fun. And of course,

556
00:40:22.160 --> 00:40:26.640
to which I said, can I just go to Frankie's Fun Park to learn? Yeah. So anyways, that's another

557
00:40:26.640 --> 00:40:32.400
whole story. Okay. Then there was the financial freedom account. Okay. And notice how much is

558
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:39.520
there. So you see the percentage there. Okay. Financial freedom account. If you don't have

559
00:40:39.520 --> 00:40:46.160
this account, how will you ever expect to find freedom from the debts and the bills that you

560
00:40:46.160 --> 00:40:51.680
have? Right? The financial freedom is there to invest. This is where your seed money comes in,

561
00:40:51.680 --> 00:40:57.680
or this is where that compounding money comes in. So if you want to hold on to it forever,

562
00:40:57.680 --> 00:41:01.200
hold on to it forever. If that's what God's telling you to do. But if not, if that is where

563
00:41:01.200 --> 00:41:07.200
your seed money comes from, then do that. Right. And then the final one that I had, I had education.

564
00:41:07.200 --> 00:41:14.800
Okay. So guess how long after doing this system, guess how long it took us to get out of debt?

565
00:41:16.720 --> 00:41:20.480
You wouldn't believe it. If I told you, you wouldn't believe it. Okay. Well tell us.

566
00:41:21.040 --> 00:41:28.640
So excited. It just took a few months to get out of debt. And when I say months, I mean months,

567
00:41:28.640 --> 00:41:34.800
because here's what we did. Many of you have gone to different, you know, seminars that talks about

568
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:41.280
the snowball effect. Okay. We did the snowball effect. So when we paid off the highest credit

569
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:47.680
card first, we took that money that we saved from not having to spend that money anymore on that

570
00:41:47.680 --> 00:41:54.800
card. And we put that money into the next highest interest bearing card. And so we just doing that

571
00:41:54.800 --> 00:42:02.960
over and over and over. And it literally only took a few months. I had no idea that we had so many

572
00:42:03.520 --> 00:42:10.160
bills. Some of them were small, some of them were large, and it literally only took a few months to

573
00:42:10.160 --> 00:42:16.960
bring us down to just one. And that was our mortgage. It was the most exciting thing that I

574
00:42:17.040 --> 00:42:24.480
think my husband and I had ever done together at that point in time. And listen, if you haven't

575
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:31.040
done that yet, if you haven't sat down to say, okay, let me see my interest card, my interest

576
00:42:31.040 --> 00:42:35.920
on my credit cards to see how much interest I'm actually paying. It will blow your mind to see how

577
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:40.560
much interest you're actually paying. If you haven't done that and start with the highest one

578
00:42:40.560 --> 00:42:45.280
and get that one paid off first, and then take those, that same amount of money that you're now

579
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:51.280
doing that and then move it to the next bill and pour it all in there. Okay. So just keep snowballing

580
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:56.320
it all before you know it, just like what happened to us, you're going to be debt-free. It'll be

581
00:42:56.320 --> 00:43:02.720
amazing. And this is where wealth started to build for us. And this is why God strategically

582
00:43:02.720 --> 00:43:08.320
taught me through the book of Proverbs, how to create the kingdom wealth strategies that I now

583
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:18.240
teach my clients. Come on. That's so good. I love it. I love it. What is, what is, if you had to,

584
00:43:18.240 --> 00:43:24.880
if you had to boil it down to just one, one thought that has just kind of like rocked your world,

585
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:28.800
that like you would want to say to the people who are out there listening right now,

586
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:36.400
you cannot leave the summit without understanding this one nugget of truth. What would that be for

587
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:46.720
you? Learn how to love people the way Jesus loves people. And that doesn't have anything to do with

588
00:43:46.720 --> 00:43:54.320
wealth, but yet it does. If you don't recognize that our giving and our generosity is truly

589
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:59.840
loving people the way Jesus would love people. It's kind of one of those deals where if I'm

590
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:09.120
asking God to bless me and yet I'm not loving him myself or others, then why should I ask him to

591
00:44:09.120 --> 00:44:16.160
bless me? Right? If I'm complaining about what I don't have, and I'm not being grateful for what I

592
00:44:16.160 --> 00:44:23.120
do have, it all comes back to love. It all comes back to not knowing who my identity is in Christ.

593
00:44:23.120 --> 00:44:30.240
And so that's the biggest piece for me is when I show up as love, then I know that God's going to

594
00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:38.320
bless me and show favor all over my life. Wow. So good. Love that. Yeah, that is absolutely beautiful.

595
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:46.880
And I mean, so on point with what Nick was sharing last night about radical love being the burning,

596
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:54.160
a blaze engine room that motivates everything. Because you might say, oh,

597
00:44:54.160 --> 00:44:59.920
loving people the way that Jesus loves people isn't like a financial...

598
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:09.040
statement but it is the it is the genesis it's the heartbeat it's the

599
00:45:09.040 --> 00:45:14.680
motivation it's the core of the mandate which is to disciple nations and what's

600
00:45:14.680 --> 00:45:23.260
really good about that is that money is not the end goal you know it really

601
00:45:23.260 --> 00:45:27.840
highlights that even in a kingdom business summit money is not the end

602
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:32.460
goal like money is not the motivator money is not the beginning money is not

603
00:45:32.460 --> 00:45:39.300
the end money is just a tool and we want to weaponize it but you know the

604
00:45:39.300 --> 00:45:46.020
beginning you know this story begins in love and it ends in love but you know it

605
00:45:46.020 --> 00:45:53.040
begins with Jesus coming hey lovely little baby Jesus coming motivated by

606
00:45:53.040 --> 00:45:56.320
love for God's they love the world but it ends where in that verse that I

607
00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:03.340
shared earlier in that session with Dave David and Katie which is Daniel 727 let

608
00:46:03.340 --> 00:46:07.540
me just read this out for you because this is where love goes you know like

609
00:46:07.540 --> 00:46:14.220
love does love does win love takes us somewhere love looks like something let

610
00:46:14.220 --> 00:46:19.380
me say that love is an unstoppable force love is a runaway train and we're

611
00:46:19.380 --> 00:46:23.460
riding it so anyone keen to know where this runaway train is going you're like

612
00:46:23.460 --> 00:46:28.960
oh no what about the future I tell you what here's a great place to anchor your

613
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:34.040
hope and your expectation around where the future is going we are on a runaway

614
00:46:34.040 --> 00:46:37.960
train ladies and gentlemen but it's a beautiful train it's going somewhere and

615
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:41.760
this is where it's going somewhere this is where it's going and and you can't

616
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:46.600
stop it I will I'll say this as well you know like there's some things that are

617
00:46:46.600 --> 00:46:50.800
prophesied that I like the sovereign will of God that you can't touch it you

618
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:54.220
can't remove it out of the timeline that's a non-negotiable there's a

619
00:46:54.220 --> 00:46:58.900
runaway train and it's gonna hit that event that moment well that was the

620
00:46:58.900 --> 00:47:02.660
cross right that's a sovereign the sovereign will of God you couldn't have

621
00:47:02.660 --> 00:47:05.460
shifted that you know all the prophetic words about the cross you couldn't have

622
00:47:05.460 --> 00:47:08.660
shifted it if you tried right you couldn't have missed it humanity could

623
00:47:08.660 --> 00:47:12.860
never have missed the cross it was a runaway train now well here's another

624
00:47:12.860 --> 00:47:16.540
runaway train that it's gonna it's impossible for us to miss and in the

625
00:47:16.540 --> 00:47:20.780
midst of everything that's happening right now it's so critical that we lock

626
00:47:20.780 --> 00:47:26.480
our eyes and attention on this runaway train where it actually lands all right

627
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:35.200
so Daniel 727 then the sovereignty power and greatness of all the kingdoms that's

628
00:47:35.200 --> 00:47:41.280
the same as Matthew 28 19 make disciples of all nations then the sovereignty power

629
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:46.680
and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be given to the holy people

630
00:47:46.680 --> 00:47:52.920
of the Most High to who oh my gosh get ready because God listen if you're going

631
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:56.920
through tribulation trial challenge I think you know that's a good thing

632
00:47:56.920 --> 00:48:01.920
because it's preparing us for leadership roles now if there's one thing that's

633
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:06.160
being really clearly highlighted in the world right now it's that if you're

634
00:48:06.160 --> 00:48:12.200
gonna give people power you want to make sure that they are good stewards of

635
00:48:12.200 --> 00:48:17.520
power you know like you don't want crazy people that don't and that aren't

636
00:48:17.520 --> 00:48:22.440
motivated and carried and led by love you don't want crazy people that that

637
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:26.720
aren't motivated and fueled by love getting power like right I mean that if

638
00:48:26.720 --> 00:48:30.760
ever there's a time where that's obvious it's right now it's like don't give

639
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:35.000
crazy makers power because they'll do crazy stuff and you'll get what we've

640
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:40.240
got right now so if you're going through chaos tribulation trials challenges God's

641
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:45.120
testing you for something phenomenal let me ask you do you sometimes wish that

642
00:48:45.120 --> 00:48:49.720
the people in power right now maybe had been through some more challenges and

643
00:48:49.720 --> 00:48:56.520
trials by God and like actually being tested and approved as worthy I think

644
00:48:56.520 --> 00:48:59.280
we'd be like yeah I don't think there's anyone that would be bummed out if

645
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:03.560
someone who was leading nations or leading their nation had been tested and

646
00:49:03.560 --> 00:49:07.440
approved by God you don't think you'd be bummed out if you were being led by

647
00:49:07.600 --> 00:49:13.360
people who'd been who'd walked through fire and flood and come out radiating

648
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:17.360
and ablaze and fully approved by God so whatever you're going through right now

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I want you to just to be like hey this is good because I'm being prepared not

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for something small but you're being prepared for something great in the

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kingdom and it's this then the sovereignty power and greatness of all

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the kingdoms under heaven will be given to the holy people of the Most High and

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that's what he's prepping you for his kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom

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and all rulers will worship and obey him oh my gosh so like this journey that

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we're on of discipling nations it starts in love but it ends with the earth

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mirroring heaven so what you just said there Kelly is so powerful because even

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though we're talking so

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much about money. No one's goal here is money. Money is only a

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tool. Money is an infrastructure. Money is a

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resource that we use in the process. But no one's goal is

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money, which is, you know, Seb, you're great at breaking down

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that scripture, the love of money. Do you want to just hit

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that one again?

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Yeah, yeah, the love of the love of money is the root of all

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scripture. But really, what it means is that love of money

666
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translates as as better in the Greek as one word, which is

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essentially a virus. A virus is kind of a more formal version

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of greed, right? So it specifically means the desire to

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create money, in order to withhold it from other people,

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or in order to withhold it itself. And so I, so if you

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were to retranslate that whole scripture, it would be the

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desire to create money and withhold it from other people

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for yourself is the is the root of all evil. So that that

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willingness to like, to meaning that if wealth is flowing, if

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money is flowing, if it's becoming generous, it's, if

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it got a job with every dollar, if you're ruling over it, if

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you're reigning over it, rather than it ruling over you, then

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you're free from the the love of root of all evil. So it's a

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it's a good, good, juicy place to like ruminate on is it and

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question to ask yourself with all your money is is is the

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wealth that I have moving? Is it is it moving in a direction

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that's reproducing that's multiplying that's creating

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value everywhere it goes? Where I'm being generous with it,

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where it's going? Is it doing that? Or is it? Am I withholding

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it for myself? So it's a good, good, like piercing question

686
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sometimes, you know, just to ask that question.

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So God had told me two things. He said, do not love money and

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do not trust money. Because if we love money or trust money,

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then we are putting money before God that becomes our idol,

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right? Just like anything can become our idol, our phone, our

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children, our husbands, anything can become an idol. And so when

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he told me those two things, I realized at that point that it

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was stewarding. Stewarding is one of the most important things

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that you can do for your life. And recognizing when you are

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stewarding it, well, God is going to show favor on you. He's

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going to so it's just to me, it's just a matter of trusting

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him for that and believing him for that.

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Yeah, awesome. I love it. So good.

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Wow, guys, what a great what a great session I am. And I think

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that that whole session, that whole message around generosity

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is there's just come back around so beautifully about money is

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designed to flow, you know, like if your money's not flowing, if

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your wealth's not flowing, then when you're trapping it, you're

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holding it, that is the root of all evil. And what's the

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antivirus for that is generosity, you know, like

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generosity will ensure that your money is not becoming an idol

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and that it's in its place. So oh, thank you so much for a

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beautiful session, Kelly, and your wisdom around there around

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money. We have a similar concept that we teach, which is the five

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jars that you mentioned. And in that one, you know, it's 20% to

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us 10% to give away and giving us 20% to giving actually has 10%

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tithes 10% offerings, which is your just your generosity. This

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is based on the Jewish principle. So I'll say that

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slowly for you guys. So in the five jars concept, it doesn't

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really matter which one you implement, in a sense, what

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what's really powerful is that you make small, sustainable,

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incremental change. And that's what changed our entire

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financial storyline as well from, you know, flooded with

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debt and next to no income streams to multiple income

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streams is, is small, incremental change, which starts

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with, you know, like, can you can you maybe you're in a place

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where at the moment you give nothing, but maybe you could

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increase the giving 1%? Or maybe you just feel like I can give a

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dollar? Well, if you can do that, do that and make it a

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small, incremental, sustainable change, because you don't want

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to just rush out, you know, watch an event like this and go,

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Yeah, I'm going to do something that's not sustainable. And

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then just start, you know, stepping up or trying to invest

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20%. And then all of a sudden, you can't actually sustain it.

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So here's quickly the five jars, which is in is give 20% 10%

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retired 10% for offering, save 10% invest 20%. Oh, sorry, the

732
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two jars sorry. So tithe is one jar 10% offerings is one jar

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10%

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percent, save is one jar, 10 percent, invest is one jar, 20

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percent, and then live off 50 percent. And interestingly about

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that, I mean, there's 20 percent there that's dedicated to

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giving, but only 10 percent is dedicated to tithing. And so if

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you're a Jewish mindset, which is biblically based, is to give

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10 percent and invest, you know, to tithe 10 percent, invest 20

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percent. Why don't churches teach investing twice as much as

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they teach tithing? Because as long as churches fail to teach

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investing twice as much as they teach tithing, as long as they

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fail to do that, they'll always be poor. And one of the reasons

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I think that that doesn't happen is because they want the

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bandwidth, they use the bandwidth of the pulpit to go

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for the big building offering as opposed to the investment.

747
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That's really short-sighted, because it means that instead of

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having a community that's all investing, you know, you've got

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a community that's doing big offerings and trusting on that

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our God will bless us. And listen, God will bless you, but

751
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he won't bless you if you are contradicting wisdom. Right? So

752
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if you're contradicting wisdom and expecting a blessing, God

753
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will actually not bless you. He will wait for the consequences

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to play out until you come back to square one and ask for

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wisdom. And so that's something that churches need to really

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sort out because they think I mean, churches think I gave this

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a big offering and yeah, I got blessed, but you didn't get

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blessed anywhere near you could have if you were as if you were

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investing. You know, so this is a big mindset in the church that

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really needs to be understood and Christians needs to be

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understood. So I think we're going to kind of come to a close

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there. But it's exciting. I think that my my kind of close

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on this session for everyone would be whatever change you

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make, whether it's big or small, make it sustainable, you know,

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make it an incremental change and and see the power of it. If

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you've got the ability to make a big change, then make a big

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change and you experience what Kelly did, which is completely

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wiped out there. That's why Kelly closing thoughts from

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yourself.

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Actually, yes, thank you for asking. Because the Holy Ghost

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is just telling me this one last thing. A lot of the poor

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mentality you guys comes from us thinking that Jesus was poor.

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But do you realize that God provided everything they needed?

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And how did he do that? Gold, frankincense and myrrh. It was

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brought right to Mary and Joseph right there. He was provided for

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the entire time and think about when was it Peter that had the

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the taxes that he had to pay for fishing and got and Jesus told

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him to go to the river to look at the fish and there was a coin

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in the fish's mouth. He could have done that at any point in

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time, right? Jesus was never poor. He has the abundance of

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the kingdom. We too, if we are imitators of Christ, are never

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poor. We have the abundance of the kingdom. It's the mentality

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shifts that we need to make. So just want to leave you with

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that.

785
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Awesome. Oh, good. Good comment here. Someone, Sharon saying he

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had a treasurer. You don't need a treasurer if you're poor. Yeah,

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that's good. And listen, if you have a treasurer, it also means

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you have a treasury. And I think that's something that we can all

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be building as well. Sam, you want to wrap it up for us? Any

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final thoughts?

791
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No, I love it. Kelly, it's been so great to be with you. It's a,

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you know, we were on a journey of, of expansion and limitless

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expansion. And the people are just so glorious. So it's so

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great to be on the journey with you. Thanks for joining us. And

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I'm looking forward to seeing where this expansion journey

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goes. Just cool. So why don't we pray and then, and close it

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out. So, Jesus, we're so grateful. We're so grateful. We

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just want to honor you. Thank you and, and bless you exalt your

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name, exalt your glory, exalt your power, over every situation

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and circumstance. And we say, come Yeshua Hamashiach, we thank

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you, Lord for your power rushing in. Thank you that you are a

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generous giver. You're the generous King, you're the

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faithful King. And we do we just bless we bless Kelly on her

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journey. We thank you for all the goodness, all the mercy, all

805
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the grace, all the revelation that you're just pouring out on

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her in the season. We say more revelation, more grace, more

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empowerment. We say yes to the calling of God on our life right

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now for this season to come Holy Spirit have your way in Jesus

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name. In Jesus name. Amen.

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Well, Kelly, thank you so much for that. Thank you for sharing

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your envelope.

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I know that we love that. Everyone's saying they love the session. So you say a big thank you

813
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to Kelly. There's lots of thanks coming in. So lots of gratitude and appreciation there for

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01:00:11.200 --> 01:00:18.400
your session. We really love that. Looking forward to collaboration. And I think that we are, here's

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what I feel prophetically is happening. Because when you have a conference like this, or a summit

816
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:35.360
like this, something happens. Psalm 133 says there's a blessed... How does it go? Where

817
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God's people dwell together in unity, God commands a blessing. I think one of those

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blessings that comes when we hang out together in a summit like this is he opens up new dreams.

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Just from the fact that we're talking together. And what I can feel that's happening is that

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God's opening up whole new connections, connecting entire networks of people that are going to start

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having all these Christian networks coming together to leverage the power of community

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and finance. And I think we're going to see the power of community and finance that's available

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to us unlocked like never before. So thank you for everything. And I look forward to journeying

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together and just seeing what we can create as we dream together, as we run together and build

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together going forward. So bless you, and we'll catch you real soon.

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Yeah, and so just so you're aware, we've got a break now for like two hours, we're

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going to go and have some lunch and do some crazy cool stuff. And then after that, we have

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Michael Seifert. Steve, do you want to jump in there and talk about your main man?

829
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Yeah, my man, Michael Seifert, one of my best friends on the planet. And he and I started an

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01:01:55.200 --> 01:02:00.000
application called Public Square, which we're going to let you know a little bit on that just

831
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is so in alignment with everything that we've been talking about so far. So it's going to be

832
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a fire session. Looking forward to it. It's going to be amazing. That'll be five o'clock Pacific

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time. Two o'clock New Zealand time. Yep. Sweetness, guys. Couple of hours.

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All right. Awesome. We'll catch you real soon. Thank you, guys. Love you. Bye-bye.