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All right, hey fam, I'm just checking if we are live,

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if we're streaming.

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I'd say we are seconds away from it all happening.

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And let me check again,

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I think it's probably happening now.

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Yes, there we are, we're live.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome.

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What a delight and a pleasure to have Zoe with us today.

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Zoe, how are you doing?

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Kia ora guys, I'm doing amazing, thank you.

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Super excited to be here.

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Thanks for having me.

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Oh, such a delight.

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And something that's quite cool is you are like the,

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so far in the summit,

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you are the closest person geographically to be here.

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Yay!

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You're like just down the road.

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In paradise, hey?

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Yeah, in paradise, you've just had a two hour surf,

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which that sounds quite luxurious.

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It was amazing.

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I feel like that is the way to start your day.

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Yeah, very nice.

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That's so cool.

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So we do live in a bit of a paradise space.

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We live here at the beach in Tairawa.

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I see people saying hi, so say hi to Zoe.

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Say hello if you haven't.

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Hello!

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Gabby says hi, and it's actually quite cool,

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like all the other people that have been on the summit,

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well, nearly all of them have been like miles away,

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other side of the world or whatever,

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but the next two are actually right here in Tairawa.

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So we've got Gabby following you,

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which is quite cool, because we're all buds.

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And something kind of funny is happening,

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actually, man, you were there, you were part of it,

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just, what is it, only like 10 days ago,

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you guys were around here drawing pictures

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on Alana's pregnant belly.

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I know, honouring her and celebrating her.

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And it was quite a kind of crazy moment as we looked,

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as well, I walked into, just in the lounge,

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and I'm like, holy moly, there's all these superhero chicks

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that have all, like, this community of superhero chicks

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just right here in Tairawa.

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I was like, oh my gosh, I could,

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like, you chicks could do a summit just by yourselves.

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Like, all these entrepreneurs and businesswomen and leaders,

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and like, just like, what?

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Like, professionals, I was like, you guys are amazing.

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So pretty cool to have Tairawa representing.

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Lots of people saying hi.

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So lots of love to everyone.

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As you're jumping in,

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let us know where you are in the world.

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Nice and easy for us right now, 12 o'clock, midday.

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You're nice and fresh.

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You just had two hours on the water.

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Good stuff.

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Hey, why don't you pray to open up for us,

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and then let's jump into some really exciting stories

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about Jesus touching people's lives.

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And I'm really excited to hear,

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because I know you've got a ton of amazing stories to share.

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Yes, I would love to pray.

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Oh, thank you, Father God, for this time, for this space.

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You've given us the opportunity to be together

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from all different parts of the world.

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And we just thank you so much.

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We just lift your name high.

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We bless every single person

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that is here on this live right now,

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and everyone else that is going to be watching it.

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We just pray that you radically touch people,

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and you change people's lives,

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and you perform your miracles as you do.

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We love you so much.

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In Jesus' name, amen.

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Amen.

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Wow.

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Cool. Well, lots of love to all of you,

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beautiful people with us.

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And I think a really cool place to start

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is probably to get some context by maybe,

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I think what we'll do is we'll go on an adventure.

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Let's do it.

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We'll flip a coin.

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Well, not actually flip a coin.

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I'll let you choose.

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Do you want to start with the past or with the present?

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Like, where would you want to start?

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Let's start in the past.

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And I love that you said adventure

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because that was my word that God gave me last year.

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And it was such a cool adventure.

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It was such a cool adventure.

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So yeah, let's start in the past.

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Okay.

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All right, let's go into the past.

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And let's hear about,

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I think with the past,

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to create context,

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I mean, for people who don't know you,

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it's not been that long

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since you actually met Jesus yourself.

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So when did you actually start following Jesus intentionally?

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Like only two and a half years ago.

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Yeah, so not actually.

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long ago yeah which is great this is great you know like no one's missed out you haven't missed

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out if you want your life to get radically upgraded you haven't worked you haven't missed

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out at all i see papa norm on the call as well hi papa norm we love you good to see you there

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all people jumping in from oz saying hi around the place saying hi yes guys uh lots of love to you all

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um so let's go back to the past and let's say like with what you know now what was the like

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the hardest thing or the most challenging aspect of life without jesus even though you didn't know

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what it was like to live with jesus like back then what was the hardest thing you look back

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now and go man i'm so glad i know jesus now oh i don't know how i actually i think i just

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fumbled through you know and i just fumbled through life now looking back i'm just

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i think the forgiveness aspect and letting go of shame and regret and guilt that was huge for me

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because you know i i would always say to myself like oh that's in the past you know leave it in

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the past but it just it's not the same as knowing that you're covered by the precious blood of the

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messiah you know and once you know oh man you know because like i was fully in the world doing

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my thing like doing whatever i wanted and i was just satisfying these hungers and craving and the

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desire but it was just my desire was jesus i just didn't know it because i was holding on to shame

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i was holding on to guilt holding on to regret and yeah so that that's for me i just don't

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i don't know how i did it for so long like it was very painful and i think we get into a place as

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well because shame if we just take that one topic of shame yeah and how big a deal that is for

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everyone yeah you generate like humans are allergic to shame you know shame is a toxic

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substance but it comes it really comes from one of our deepest root issues when we're disconnected

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from god and actually even if you like so many christians they follow jesus but they miss out on

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the best of the best stuff because they never actually discover that he defines them they

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ever actually discover their identity in him and until we actually discover our identity in him

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come on we can't dislodge shame it's like it's a vacuum you know like because shame comes from

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being falsely defined by your life experiences falsely defined by what everyone said about you

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falsely defined by every concept of inadequacy that we're holding on to and then jesus comes

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along and says actually you know what you're perfect you're made in my image and until we

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have this sonic blast of jesus redefining us and bumping that off like if you treat it like oh it's

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just a sticky label and you just try and pull it off well it's a vacuum just keeps on coming back

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replace it yeah and then today once you find that freedom and that love of christ like for me it was

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just boom instant like i my whole world was changed and yeah it's just so beautiful because

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you can start to pick up things and like you put them on as your identity and then you're just

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walking around with the same clothes and it's like nah take them off there you know yeah and

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well actually if you're if you're up for it i'm keen to go kind of deep on this because i think

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what we actually see in our generation right now is millions of people around the world

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yeah all walking around you know trying to look good but just under the surface

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riddled with immense levels of extremely painful excruciating levels of shame yes we're all dealing

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with the same stuff we honestly are and i think that's one of the big things for me was that that

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shame was kept inside and i didn't understand that god would bring that to the surface

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it would be painful but not as painful as living with it for 30 years do you know what i mean he

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brings it up and he cleanses you of it and you walk forward and now some of my deepest darkest

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secrets they're out there like i've shared them to like 150 000 people and i'm like i'm free man

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like i don't care about that anymore doesn't feel like the enemy can hold that against me anymore

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or people can hold that against me because god's allowed me to rewrite my own story with him

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and when i know that he's with me i know

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I'm gonna prosper. I'm an abundant person that my identity is rooted in who he says I am

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and who he's created me to be not anything I've done anything I've said or anything like that

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and that's exciting that is like oh my goodness I get to start a new life I get to rewrite this

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and the best part about it is I get to run my race with him and like man you run a day and

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you're just like sprinting sometimes you'll fall over and you'll trip up but yeah it's not

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as hard as it was when you know he wasn't in my life yeah totally and

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oh I was just like that line there of rewriting your story is so powerful and it's actually been

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a theme running through this summer because it does apply to like we've been talking about

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financially you have to get a new vision you actually have to rewrite your story it's not

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just something that you do in your financial side of things every single one of us is living out of

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a story yeah and it's like most of us it's on replay you know the same story telling ourselves

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the same things about ourselves and when you get stuck in that place and I lived there for years

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as well it's just shame by it's like all shame comes from the belief that there's

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something wrong with you yeah guilt comes from believing we've done something wrong but shame

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comes from believing there's something wrong with me and when we have that as our like soundtrack

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that's just playing and we live out of that story there's something wrong with me we always live out

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of a sense of inadequacy and so if you if you're up for it just share me one of the share with me

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one of those uh tracks that was on replay that you just lived in that you know that just caused

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that constant um toxic cycle of shame yeah I'm gonna get deep because I feel like I'm I'm called

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to women especially I feel like I've grown up and I've experienced a lot I have a lot of life

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experience for just 32 years um I grew up and I was very loved it was um an amazing household but

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I did experience seeing domestic violence um and seeing um you know just alcohol and drugs and

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things like that so I I had had this skewed vision of um what love was and when I was 17 years old I

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actually um had an abortion and I didn't want to um but there were just so many things that were

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happening in my life and I on the last day I just I did it and I held on to that for literally

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15 years I held on to that every single day that guilt that regret that shame that what if what have

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I done you know and um it wasn't actually until I read it I had a radical encounter with God because

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when I was 17 so that happened and then my dad suddenly passed away he was only 46 years old so

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it was like you know the lowest that I could go and I just kept going downhill from there

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I lived with it for that long and yeah it wasn't until I had this radical encounter with Jesus and

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it was forgiveness he fully came over me and he was just like forgiveness you need to forgive me

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myself but I also had to forgive God because I was like why did you do that why did you allow that

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and that sounds so crazy like I needed to forgive God but I had held a grudge against him you know

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for that whole time so for me that was huge that that literally had me like it was chains around my

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neck for years and I know so many women have been through it and have done it and have allowed it

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even though they're mothers today they still allow it to define them and yeah it's and it's so hard

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because it's almost encouraged in today's society where we should be wrapping women with love and

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encouragement and support like we should be nourishing women and mothers and you know

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helping them helping them to see who God's created them to be and what they could like if they could

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know what they would achieve you know by moving forward in the path that you know has been forged

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for them like oh my gosh I just know that woman would yeah there would just be there would be

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revival come on yeah yeah and here's the thing as well like when we're in that place

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I mean, because that's not a light level of pain, is it?

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I mean, you're talking you're talking pretty extreme emotional levels of pain.

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Like if you put it on like a scale of one to ten for yourself, that experience.

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Yeah. On a one to ten scale.

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How painful was it? Excruciating.

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Like a ten, like a ten, a ten, especially because I didn't want to do it,

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but I did it.

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And this is the thing that I am so passionate about.

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Like God has given us this gift.

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He's given us the Holy Spirit.

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And even when we're not walking with with him, he still shares that.

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He still shares with us.

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He still gives us that discernment.

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But because we're still carrying

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shame and guilt and all that kind of stuff,

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we just we brush it away.

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We brush that that holiness away because we don't think we're worthy.

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Yeah. And do you know what?

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I went to the protests in Wellington. Right.

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And without a word of a lie, I ran into my doctor when I was 17.

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Her name is Justine.

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She is a woman of God and she is fighting for our rights.

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And like she is just the most holy, godly woman.

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And I bumped into her and I said to her, do you remember me?

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And she was like, oh, my gosh, I remember you.

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And I said, because she encouraged me.

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She encouraged me. She supported me.

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She said, I will give you whatever you need.

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You know, and I would walk away thinking I can do this, I can do this.

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And then all the different voices from the outside would come in

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and come against it.

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But I said to her, you know what?

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You were that person that your one act of obedience,

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encouraging me, telling me that I could do it, that, you know,

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it was a gift from this was a gift from God that that was a seed,

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you know, and look at it now.

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I've got two sets of twins.

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I've got an amazing husband.

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And I said to her, I'm walking with Jesus.

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And we just cried and we just held each other.

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And I'm like, that is the goodness of God.

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That's something that I did that I had so much

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angst and excruciating pain and regret

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about. He's like, you know what?

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I'm going to give you double portions and I'm going to double bless you

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because you're my daughter and that's it.

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And it's just like, whoa, you know, 15 years later,

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I'm hugging her and I'm telling her this is the goodness of God.

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And she's like, you have a voice.

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Use it like your God has.

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It's no, you know, thing that God, this has happened to you.

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And you found him. You're a voice.

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Yeah. And I just don't.

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Yeah, I don't ever want to let that shame or that regret

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of what I've done have any hold over me.

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And when we talk about shaping culture,

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there's lots of elements to it.

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But I sometimes think people don't.

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Realize that how much of our culture is actually shaped

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by the fact that we aren't coping with our shame.

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You know, I heard a really good line.

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Someone once said to me, it's not the traumatic event

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that causes the pain.

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It's our response to it.

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Yeah, because a traumatic event.

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And they are, you know, while they can be extremely painful.

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If you encounter the truth, the truth will set you free.

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Now, you for you, you lived in that pain for what, like 15 years? Yeah.

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So you lived in that pain for 15 years.

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But if you'd had the same encounter with the truth a year in. Oh.

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Yeah, you could.

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It could have been like, OK, this 14 years of unnecessary.

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And like you said, 10 out of 10 level of pain, which produces

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this huge amount of emotional trauma, mental health issues

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and is driving all these coping mechanisms.

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And we look at our culture and people say, yeah, it's cool to do

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all the drinking, all the drugs, all the sleeping around like that's cool.

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But it's actually a whole culture driven by the fact

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that we don't know how to cope with our shame. Yeah.

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And it literally kills you.

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It kills you. Like after that, I was very suicidal.

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I was heavily drinking. I was doing drugs.

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I was doing it all because I couldn't cope.

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And you're right.

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It wasn't necessarily just the act itself, although that was a big thing.

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It was how I coped with it and how others around me

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dealt with it and coped with it.

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And usually when we're dealing with shame, you know,

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and it's somebody else's shame, you don't necessarily

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most people don't know how to deal with that.

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They don't know how to confront those hard situations.

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actions, especially if they haven't dealt with their own trauma.

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So it's just a generational trauma, and it's a generational cycle.

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And it just perpetuates itself until you get the keys

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from your heavenly father.

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And he slices that with the sword of truth.

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And then it doesn't necessarily just go.

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There's been things in my life where it's

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been miraculous, and I've had just complete healing over it.

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But it's just a process, a refinement of him being like, hey, look,

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come on, let's deal with this.

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Now I'm going to give you the tools because I've got all the tools that you

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need to be set free, but we have to come to acceptance and we have to come into

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full agreement with what his word tells us and what he says.

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And that is often where people don't necessarily want to do the hard work.

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Yeah.

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And through this whole time, you've had a real voice.

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It wasn't that you became a Christian, then became an influencer.

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You've been an influencer for years.

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How long have you been in the space of being an Instagram influencer?

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Yeah, I have been in the space just over five years.

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And when I came into the space,

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like from the outside, it did look like I had it all,

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like I had a beautiful marriage, and I've always had that.

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I had, you know,

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our first set of twins and we were living a great life.

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So there wasn't necessarily things that I was chasing, but I got them.

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Everything that we were after we got and I just chased it and chased it.

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But I just still wasn't fulfilled.

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Yeah, totally.

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So

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so before you meet Jesus, like what were you known for?

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What was kind of like the theme,

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the anthem, the flavor that people knew Zoe for?

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I was definitely known for having two

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sets of twins, but also I was known as like the mother.

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My motto used to be like, you can be and do whatever you want.

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And it was like I was going out.

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I was going to events all the time.

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Our whole life was paid for.

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I was like we were flying.

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I flew to Bali.

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We flew to Vanuatu.

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I was hosting women's events, which were highly fueled by alcohol.

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And there were like 500 women at them.

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And they were at the time I was like, this is amazing.

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Like I'm pursuing my dreams.

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I'm traveling the country.

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I'm hosting these events.

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I'm making insane amounts of money.

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But it wasn't until there was one event

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and I looked around and I was standing with my husband.

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And I just had the sobering thought

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because there were just all these women and everyone was just wasted.

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And I was like, I questioned myself.

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I was like, you know, is this essentially what I wanted to create?

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Because I needed an escape as a busy mom with two sets of twins.

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I wanted to go out.

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I wanted to get dressed up.

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I wanted to look beautiful.

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I wanted a party so that I could let go of all the stress and the worries.

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Like I needed a blow out, you know.

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And then it wasn't until I stood there in that moment.

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And I was like, is this truly what I wanted to create?

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You know, it was a question to myself.

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I was like, oh, I never thought about it like that.

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I just thought you can do whatever you want.

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Like, it doesn't matter how bad it affects you.

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Just you do you.

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Yeah. Yeah, totally.

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So let's just do kind of like a bit of an overview of what happened

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that changed you, that you actually encountered God.

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What was your God story that you actually.

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OK, well, let's let's completely 180 my life and start following Jesus.

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Yeah. So over a couple of years, I was feeling quite pulled.

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I was feeling the Holy Spirit was nudging me for sure, I would say to Junior.

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And I actually didn't know how to have a relationship with him.

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I didn't know I could pray or anything like that.

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And I said to Junior, I said, babe, we need to go to church,

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like nearly every week for two years I was going, we need to go to church.

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But it wasn't until I got invited to go to this course.

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It's called First Steps to Success by Danny Johnson.

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And my friends, they're not Christian or anything at the time.

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But they had been going to all these

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events that this woman from America was hosting.

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And I was super focused at the time on building

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my business and making money like I had this goal.

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I was like, right.

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My first year, I wanted to hit 100K and I hit it.

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And then the second year.

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I was like, right, I want to hit 250K.

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Like, let's go.

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I'm going to go to this course.

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So I went there and she was preaching

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from the greatest book ever written.

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And she was talking about the Messiah Yeshua.

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And I was kind of like, what is this woman talking about?

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Everything was based from the Bible.

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Everything she was teaching us about ego,

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pride, forgiveness, money.

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Everything was biblical.

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Wow.

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She got this guy up on stage

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and she started praying over him in tongues

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and he fell over.

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And I was overcome by the Holy Spirit.

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It was so funny, but it was so good.

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I was like, whoa.

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And I was sitting with these two other women

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and we were all frozen.

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And like tears, we were tearing up

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and we were just like, whoa,

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it was a powerful move of the Holy Spirit.

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So after I left there, I was driving home

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and I had this complete revelation

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that I had held on to unforgiveness towards God.

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I was like, I've put him in the box.

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And I was like, that's Pindar, I'm not opening that box.

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You're there.

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I literally used to, you killed my dad.

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And I was driving home and I just started

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bawling my eyes out.

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The sun was setting.

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And I just said, God, I'm so sorry.

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I just started repenting.

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I was alone.

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I just started repenting.

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I was like, God, please forgive me.

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Like, I need you.

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And I just said, I forgive you.

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Like, I know it wasn't you.

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I just had a revelation straight away

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that it wasn't him and that it was just my dad's time.

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And just, I just, everything just came off me.

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I got home and I said to Junior, I just repented to him.

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I was like, I'm so sorry.

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And like people that knew me back then,

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like I've always been a loving, fun, outgoing person,

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but I was definitely stuck in cycles

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and I'd continue to repeat them.

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And I just asked for complete forgiveness.

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I was like, we need to go to church.

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This was on the Sunday night.

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On the Monday night, I went to a woman's group.

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I got prophesied over and I was just hysterically crying.

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It was insane.

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Turned up to church on the Sunday, gave my life to Jesus.

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Junior and I actually, I just looked at him.

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He was dripping with sweat.

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And I was like, I put my hand up.

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I was like, me, me, I want to give my life to Jesus.

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Like, I was so touched.

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And Junior was-

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That's like the preacher's dream.

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Like, yes, I see that hand right there, yes, hello.

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He's like, you can put your hand down.

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I was like, no, I'm keeping it up.

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And I looked at Junior and I was like,

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are you coming with me

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or are you staying where you are?

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And he just threw his hand up.

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It was like the last call.

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Whoa.

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We never looked back.

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Like, we literally got baptized together straight away.

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And yeah, I was sold out for Jesus.

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And obviously everything I had shared online

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was like this crazy party girl,

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like mom can do anything she wants

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and like going out, doing all this stuff.

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And then fully to, oh my gosh, she's lost the plot.

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Yeah.

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I mean, so much changed for you in that context as well

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because you guys were pretty woke.

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Yeah.

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You know, like you were full on world culture,

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pretty woke, like championing that woke cause.

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And then all of a sudden, Jesus.

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Yeah.

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And it was literally like that.

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The deception and the lies that I had been living in,

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like heavy, heavy stuff.

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I was into new age.

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I was into witchcraft.

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I was into tarot cards, psychic readings, everything.

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Everything.

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And I literally just chucked it all in the bin.

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Wow.

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I was like, yuck, this is gone.

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I repent.

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Like I'm, but God was so gracious.

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He was so kind.

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It was never like you bad, bad girl.

484
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It was like, I've seen the light, I've seen the truth

485
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.680
and it no longer, you know.

486
00:29:25.840 --> 00:29:27.360
Yeah, it just melts off, eh?

487
00:29:27.360 --> 00:29:28.760
Yeah, it just melted off.

488
00:29:28.760 --> 00:29:31.800
So that was literally it.

489
00:29:34.120 --> 00:29:36.200
So here's the thing as well.

490
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.600
Like you start standing for Jesus,

491
00:29:38.600 --> 00:29:40.360
especially when you've been in that place

492
00:29:40.360 --> 00:29:43.520
of being a, you know, being a woke champion.

493
00:29:43.520 --> 00:29:44.360
Yeah.

494
00:29:44.360 --> 00:29:45.200
Being a champion.

495
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:46.640
Like you were a champion of sin.

496
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:49.640
You were like, yes, I'm sinning and I love it.

497
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:51.040
I was encouraging it.

498
00:29:51.040 --> 00:29:52.600
I was fully encouraging it.

499
00:29:52.600 --> 00:29:54.920
And I didn't even know it was sin.

500
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:59.920
Like I just didn't know because I was so used to it.

501
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:06.800
again you can go open your barbie okay um one of the things because i think people go oh sin

502
00:30:07.600 --> 00:30:13.600
some people don't like that terminology but actually sin is in the english root of the word

503
00:30:13.600 --> 00:30:18.160
the greek and hebrew the word actually means to miss the mark it's actually an archery term

504
00:30:19.280 --> 00:30:24.800
you fire an arrow and and sinning was an archery turn that mean oh you're sinning because you

505
00:30:24.800 --> 00:30:29.280
didn't hit the bullseye yeah but really if you actually really boil it down what it means is

506
00:30:29.280 --> 00:30:34.800
actually means you're living outside of your identity you know that you know the line for

507
00:30:34.800 --> 00:30:42.560
all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of god yeah um that's because the glory of god

508
00:30:42.560 --> 00:30:49.920
is what we were made for so like we're missing the mark if we're not living in the glory

509
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:56.240
yeah we're not living in what we were created for and we're also not living out of a revelation of

510
00:30:56.240 --> 00:31:04.080
who we really are because jesus said in john 17 22 i have given them the same glory that the father

511
00:31:04.080 --> 00:31:10.880
gave me that they may be one as we're one so this concept of sinning is actually it's just living

512
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:16.720
outside of our identity living outside of an understanding that we're perfectly made in the

513
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:21.600
image of god and when you live outside of that understanding that you're perfectly made in the

514
00:31:21.600 --> 00:31:28.560
image of god exclusively defined by christ uh there's nothing lacking about who you are there's

515
00:31:28.560 --> 00:31:32.800
nothing inadequate about who you are there's nothing shameful about who you are everything

516
00:31:32.800 --> 00:31:38.480
that you've done in the past that might have regret has been fully uh forgiven there's nothing to feel

517
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:43.600
guilty about you're a hundred percent free and you live out of freedom you live out of abundance you

518
00:31:43.600 --> 00:31:50.320
live out of glory and so you know in the past i mean you were just living out of shame yeah and

519
00:31:50.320 --> 00:31:54.960
saying to everyone hey like everyone like look at my coping mechanisms yay

520
00:31:59.760 --> 00:32:05.600
but you know so you go from a like a champion of coping mechanisms which you know when everyone's

521
00:32:05.600 --> 00:32:09.680
championing it becomes a culture so champion of that culture to now all of a sudden you're

522
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:19.440
completely counter-cultural counter like counter yeah but you know what for me i don't know why

523
00:32:19.520 --> 00:32:27.600
the response was so good like i because i just as i had always i naturally shared my life i was like

524
00:32:27.600 --> 00:32:33.920
this is my life take me as i am or leave i don't care like i kind of had that attitude and when i

525
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:42.640
found jesus like i was sharing you know oh my gosh my kids got dedicated like i was sharing everything

526
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:50.000
and we shared our baptism online and it was so crazy like it got exponential views like

527
00:32:50.000 --> 00:33:01.360
exponentially give it to daddy baby doubles i know yeah oh good oh it was just yeah it was amazing

528
00:33:01.360 --> 00:33:06.480
i can't even explain it i still sit back and i'm like whoa this is my life now this has happened

529
00:33:07.280 --> 00:33:13.600
wow and so because you had that like tens of thousands of people following you and an instagram

530
00:33:13.600 --> 00:33:18.080
you start sharing your story and you started seeing a move of god so like tell me about that

531
00:33:18.080 --> 00:33:23.840
what actually happened because i mean we see social media and we see the challenges of a week

532
00:33:23.840 --> 00:33:28.400
but like there's a also a real blessing in technology like what was the move of god that

533
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:36.400
began to unfold as you just start opening up your world oh honestly i was just sharing what

534
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:43.440
was happening like and i was going online and i was fully repenting but i wasn't like i wasn't

535
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:50.000
looking at it as like i need to go on and repent like i was just like hey guys look i'd have i've

536
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:56.160
had a um i would pop up a questions box and people were like oh what about are you still doing like

537
00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:02.720
your cards your angel cards and i was just come on and be like guys i'm so sorry like i'm so sorry

538
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:08.480
that i because i was to see i was taking people into deception i would like do them and stuff

539
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:16.880
online and i would say i'm so sorry but um yeah i i fully repented of this and i was deceived

540
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:23.840
and um this is the truth and i would just share the truth like it wasn't a biggie it wasn't a

541
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:30.480
biggie at all i was like yeah this is the truth and people were like oh my goodness like people

542
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:37.440
were throwing theirs away i have spoken to thousands and thousands of women over the years

543
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:46.159
and people are turning away from all sorts like everything you can think of they're just saying

544
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:52.560
thank you so much you shared with me how i can have an intimate relationship with christ and it

545
00:34:52.560 --> 00:34:59.680
was so natural it wasn't like hey come here or come to church or like you know it was just genuine

546
00:34:59.680 --> 00:34:59.840
they

547
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.080
could see my love and how genuine it was.

548
00:35:04.080 --> 00:35:05.880
And they were like, I need that.

549
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.040
It was almost like,

550
00:35:08.040 --> 00:35:10.020
because I had this newfound love,

551
00:35:10.020 --> 00:35:11.460
people were kind of like jealous.

552
00:35:11.460 --> 00:35:13.800
They were like, what have you, how do you get that?

553
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:14.920
What is that?

554
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.440
And I'd be like, you don't even, I was like, guys,

555
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:18.440
guess what?

556
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:20.080
You can just pray to God.

557
00:35:20.080 --> 00:35:21.360
Did you know that?

558
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:22.600
I'm like, I didn't know that.

559
00:35:22.600 --> 00:35:26.240
I can just talk to God whenever I want and I can pray.

560
00:35:26.240 --> 00:35:31.240
And I was like, you know, looking at even sharing the Bible,

561
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:35.640
I would share different, you know, what are they?

562
00:35:35.640 --> 00:35:38.320
The versions, because people would be like,

563
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.720
I've got a Bible and I could never, yeah.

564
00:35:40.720 --> 00:35:43.000
So all the different translations, I'd be like,

565
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:44.120
this is what I'm using.

566
00:35:44.120 --> 00:35:45.640
Like, this is so awesome.

567
00:35:45.640 --> 00:35:46.800
The amplified version,

568
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:48.280
if you don't know what you're reading,

569
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:52.240
or I would just share and I just didn't care.

570
00:35:52.240 --> 00:35:53.520
And I still don't to this day,

571
00:35:53.520 --> 00:35:55.640
because I'm like, no, this is awesome.

572
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:58.320
I'm just sharing what feels naturally.

573
00:35:58.320 --> 00:35:59.720
Women were getting saved.

574
00:35:59.720 --> 00:36:03.400
They were like leaving toxic relationships.

575
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:04.720
They're healing.

576
00:36:04.720 --> 00:36:06.440
They're healing from abortion.

577
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:10.200
They're healing from, you know, sexual abuse.

578
00:36:10.200 --> 00:36:14.400
People are focusing on their marriages.

579
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:15.240
Come on.

580
00:36:15.240 --> 00:36:19.280
Because I was like, oh my goodness, I have to submit.

581
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:21.520
Because I was such a dominant person,

582
00:36:21.520 --> 00:36:23.320
especially in my marriage.

583
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:25.960
You know, it's like, whatever I want goes.

584
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:29.320
And now I just have the utmost respect

585
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:32.160
and admiration for my husband.

586
00:36:32.160 --> 00:36:35.800
And I was, I'm just a champion

587
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:39.200
for being a submissive wife now, like, you know,

588
00:36:39.200 --> 00:36:41.320
and loving on my husband in the right way,

589
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:45.040
because, you know, culture is like,

590
00:36:45.040 --> 00:36:47.800
you need to be an independent woman.

591
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:51.600
And I'm like, well, I need to love on my husband

592
00:36:51.600 --> 00:36:54.280
and I know who I am, you know,

593
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:57.480
but, you know, our marriage is so important.

594
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:02.480
So just all that kind of stuff I was sharing and yeah,

595
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:07.760
just so many women finding Christ, which was amazing.

596
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:12.760
So I want to talk a little bit now about shaping culture

597
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:18.320
because you're seeing thousands of lives touched by Jesus.

598
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.760
I mean, possibly because of the position of influence

599
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:25.320
that you're in, you're actually able to touch more people

600
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:28.240
for Jesus than a lot of churches will touch in a decade.

601
00:37:29.160 --> 00:37:32.240
You know, when we got baptized,

602
00:37:33.240 --> 00:37:35.360
my whole family got saved.

603
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.520
So I prayed and fasted.

604
00:37:37.520 --> 00:37:39.120
I didn't even know what that was,

605
00:37:39.120 --> 00:37:41.280
but someone was like, if you pray and fast,

606
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.440
and I said to Junior, I'm going to pray and fast,

607
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.560
because I just had this insane faith.

608
00:37:46.560 --> 00:37:48.960
I was like, no, if God says it,

609
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:51.000
and I was like, my family's going to get saved.

610
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:52.040
And my friends were like,

611
00:37:52.040 --> 00:37:55.760
oh, we've been praying for our families for like 10 years.

612
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:59.120
And I'm like, no, I've prayed and I've fasted, so they will.

613
00:37:59.120 --> 00:38:01.600
So had a radical move of God.

614
00:38:01.600 --> 00:38:05.600
And there were like nearly 40 people that day that got saved.

615
00:38:05.600 --> 00:38:06.680
Wow.

616
00:38:06.680 --> 00:38:07.800
And it was huge.

617
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.400
They were like, we've never had this many people saved.

618
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:12.080
And I'm not saying that it was us,

619
00:38:12.080 --> 00:38:16.160
but I'm just, I knew that God had given us influence.

620
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:19.400
And I just knew, I was like, no,

621
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.200
this is how it's meant to be.

622
00:38:21.200 --> 00:38:22.440
Like, this is it.

623
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:25.640
Come on, that is wild.

624
00:38:25.640 --> 00:38:26.480
And I love it.

625
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:28.920
And I think that the shape and culture element

626
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:33.200
that I want to touch on is the power of social media.

627
00:38:33.200 --> 00:38:34.520
Yes.

628
00:38:34.520 --> 00:38:37.760
The power of social media.

629
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:40.360
Now we see at the moment all sorts of different things.

630
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:44.200
I mean, just this, like yesterday I was banned on,

631
00:38:44.200 --> 00:38:46.480
I couldn't go live on Facebook yesterday

632
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:50.760
for speaking truth and life.

633
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:53.280
But there's the flip side as well

634
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:55.560
of the power of social media

635
00:38:55.560 --> 00:38:57.880
to bring massive influence and transformation.

636
00:38:57.880 --> 00:38:59.960
Just, do you want to share some of the trends

637
00:38:59.960 --> 00:39:01.760
and some of the positives that you're seeing

638
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:02.880
coming from social media

639
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.720
of how you can actually shape culture?

640
00:39:05.720 --> 00:39:06.560
Yes.

641
00:39:06.560 --> 00:39:10.240
Like for me, I started to like,

642
00:39:10.240 --> 00:39:12.280
and it hasn't been up until recently

643
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.040
because when I first started, right,

644
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:17.240
it was just a natural progression of people following

645
00:39:17.240 --> 00:39:19.160
and they just follow.

646
00:39:19.160 --> 00:39:23.800
And then you kind of feel like they're shaping you

647
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:26.560
because you're trying to meet people's demands

648
00:39:26.560 --> 00:39:27.800
and expectations.

649
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:31.280
But when we realized that people come to us,

650
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.760
like they are coming to you for a reason

651
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:36.560
and you have no idea what that reason is,

652
00:39:36.560 --> 00:39:39.920
but you can literally impact, you know,

653
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:43.560
so many people, even strangers that don't know you

654
00:39:43.560 --> 00:39:48.560
or follow you, it's right there and it's free.

655
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:50.240
And it's just in our hand.

656
00:39:50.240 --> 00:39:52.080
Like you can pick it up.

657
00:39:52.080 --> 00:39:53.160
So accessible.

658
00:39:53.160 --> 00:39:54.880
Yeah, it's super accessible.

659
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.680
And like most people have social media now.

660
00:39:57.680 --> 00:39:59.240
So, you know.

661
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:07.360
And I just think, man, what an awesome tool to share the gospel and just to live out your life,

662
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:14.400
sharing the fruits of your life and sharing, you know, the miracles, because I'm just like,

663
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:20.800
every day is a miracle. You know, I try to, for me, I just keep it as a place where like,

664
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:26.960
it's us, it's our little piece. And it's definitely come with persecution. But I'm like,

665
00:40:27.600 --> 00:40:36.400
oh, well, like, you know. And I mean, you caused a little bit of a flurry not so long ago

666
00:40:37.520 --> 00:40:44.800
in New Zealand with some posts, was it probably 18 months ago now that you were just posting about

667
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:50.960
your perspective on freedom and some of the directions of New Zealand politics and

668
00:40:52.080 --> 00:40:55.840
even the Prime Minister really weighed in on that conversation that you sparked.

669
00:40:56.480 --> 00:41:03.200
Oh, that was back in August 2020. And I was like, super petrified, you know,

670
00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:07.360
when everything first came out. And then there was just a shift in me. And I was like, hey,

671
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:14.320
this isn't actually making any sense. And I just, honestly, I did not think anything was

672
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:20.400
going to come of it. And I just shared a few of like my opinions, what I was feeling, what I was

673
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:27.920
seeing, and what I was seeing that was going to potentially progress in the future. And I shared

674
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:36.640
it and oh my goodness, like I went to sleep that night because I had started, I had posted and

675
00:41:36.640 --> 00:41:42.400
I had had a flurry, like thousands of people were like, yes, this is what I can say. And then

676
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:49.920
this woman got hold of it. And she just trolls people. And she shared me and I started getting

677
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:56.800
people like trolling us, like hardcore trolls. And I was just like, whatever, I didn't think it was

678
00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:02.640
going to be that bad. And I was like, yeah, come on now trolls, like, you know, and then the next

679
00:42:02.640 --> 00:42:10.080
day I woke up and it was like, we were receiving death threats. They were bringing my family into

680
00:42:10.080 --> 00:42:18.560
it. People were like, spitting the most evil hatred, people that I knew, even friends,

681
00:42:18.560 --> 00:42:27.600
even friends were just messaging me and just like releasing all their stuff onto me.

682
00:42:29.040 --> 00:42:35.840
And I honestly didn't think it was that big a deal because of how clearly I saw things. I was like,

683
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:44.000
oh man, but then we were like in every, you know, newspaper, we were on the radio, we were on the

684
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:51.040
news. And it was pretty full on, like, you know, all the brands that I was working with,

685
00:42:51.040 --> 00:42:56.400
they started to get like, you know, they were getting complaints about me. And in the end,

686
00:42:56.400 --> 00:43:02.080
I just said to them, like, look, I don't, I had been feeling that way inclined anyway. Like,

687
00:43:02.080 --> 00:43:09.360
I think the Holy Spirit was nudging me to move away from being reliant on other people for our

688
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:14.880
income and having to censor myself. I didn't want to do that anymore. I was like, nah, I'm finally

689
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:22.720
free. I want to just cut the ties. But that meant cutting like our income. So yeah, then I just

690
00:43:22.720 --> 00:43:28.160
terminated all of our contracts after that. And we just moved out of Auckland. We just, that was

691
00:43:28.160 --> 00:43:35.200
like, honestly, the biggest refinement. It was so amazing. It was hard though. We didn't realise we

692
00:43:35.200 --> 00:43:43.200
had a bit of PTSD until like, we got out and, you know, just relaxed for a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

693
00:43:43.200 --> 00:43:49.200
It's a pretty, it's pretty hectic, those big moments like that. But that brings another element

694
00:43:49.200 --> 00:43:54.400
into it. So I guess what I want to bring people's attention onto here is, there is actually the

695
00:43:54.400 --> 00:44:01.840
opportunity for anyone who really wants to, to build a social media brand, you know, to build

696
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:08.960
their own brand online right now, that can be a platform for influence, can be a platform for

697
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:16.240
spreading the gospel, platform for encouragement, discipleship, political transformation, but also

698
00:44:16.240 --> 00:44:22.880
business. I mean, you said you had 100k in your first year. Yeah. As an influencer. And I didn't

699
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:28.240
even know what I was doing. I don't have a degree. I don't know. I didn't know anything. But I knew,

700
00:44:29.200 --> 00:44:34.720
I knew that I was called to do it. I just knew it. And that was without knowing God.

701
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:43.840
But, you know, if you have five people, that's five people that you can use to influence for good,

702
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:50.560
you know, but I think people just look to others now with a big platform. And they're like, oh,

703
00:44:50.560 --> 00:44:55.600
wow, you know, and it's like, no, if you know your worth, and you know your value, and you know what

704
00:44:55.600 --> 00:44:59.840
you're bringing to the table, man, you can ace it. You can do anything, you see.

705
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:08.080
your mind to. Yeah and I mean there is a whole world of opportunity available for people if

706
00:45:08.080 --> 00:45:14.320
they want to actually step into this space I mean it doesn't matter really you can be an influencer

707
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:23.840
you can build a social media platform and brand regardless of who you are regardless of what your

708
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:29.520
hobbies are regardless of of it partly because the world is so massive right now like niches

709
00:45:30.080 --> 00:45:35.760
are so huge you're like oh yeah well I just um I'm just uh like a horse person or I'm I just

710
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:44.560
a diver or whatever actually if you look at like tiny percentages um like as 0.00001 percent

711
00:45:44.560 --> 00:45:48.640
of of the world being interested in something equals millions of people being interested in

712
00:45:48.640 --> 00:45:55.600
that thing literally and I think that's another thing like within culture we're not taught that

713
00:45:55.600 --> 00:46:03.680
we are we're gifted and we have these gifts and these talents that are specific to us specific to

714
00:46:03.680 --> 00:46:10.400
our calling and when you hold on to that and you're not looking outside you know and comparing yourself

715
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:17.280
to everybody else you actually go oh what do I like what do I love what's my passion you know

716
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:23.520
and then you you do that don't worry about what everyone else is doing you need to look within

717
00:46:23.520 --> 00:46:29.760
like who has God created you to be who is he calling you to what is he calling you to and

718
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:36.000
often it's like what do I love doing what am I super passionate about yeah let's do that and

719
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:42.800
mine was literally just building an encouraging woman that was it and now that I know that and

720
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:50.320
I understand that I know that's my life calling and I love it I enjoy it it's never work you know

721
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:56.400
now that I found surfing I'm like cool I can bring in all these elements of like my life I

722
00:46:56.400 --> 00:47:01.760
mean you've got a surf retreat coming up soon right I'm so excited it's nearly sold out and

723
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:08.000
it's just it's going to be incredible because we're all going to be in one space and we can

724
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:13.120
connect and you know I'm going to host a beautiful woman's circle where we're just like encouraging

725
00:47:13.120 --> 00:47:19.920
each other and we can get into the presence of God and when I'm out on the water as well that was

726
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:27.120
just a huge gift from God to me because I'm just in this vast ocean and it's one of the only places

727
00:47:27.120 --> 00:47:34.240
in the world for me where I can just completely switch off and be with God completely and it is

728
00:47:34.240 --> 00:47:41.600
just my spot it's my space and I'm like oh man I got to get women out there and pass their fears

729
00:47:41.600 --> 00:47:51.200
to like tap into that supernatural realm because oh so much fun yes that's beautiful I think this

730
00:47:51.200 --> 00:47:56.960
whole concept of what we're talking about influencer one of the things that you've really stewarded so

731
00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:03.600
well is having a voice I mean even before you knew Jesus you understood the power of having

732
00:48:03.600 --> 00:48:10.320
a voice and as a result of stewarding that I mean you've been able to create cultural impact

733
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:16.400
personal impact political impact business impact building a business I mean you created multiple

734
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:25.200
income streams off the back of a voice yeah just by being myself how many income streams to date

735
00:48:25.200 --> 00:48:30.880
have you generated through through this process of actually building a personal brand online

736
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:36.800
having a voice online how many income streams have you rolled off that I would have lost I've

737
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:42.880
actually lost count like there have been so many you know I've tapped into events I've tapped into

738
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:50.240
brands I've tapped into commission we had a label like all sorts you know I was speaking at events

739
00:48:50.240 --> 00:48:57.120
I was I was just doing anything and everything I was like a little chameleon you know like yeah

740
00:48:57.120 --> 00:49:02.160
I'd just feel it out and then I'd do it and if I didn't if it didn't feel right I wouldn't do it

741
00:49:02.160 --> 00:49:07.200
um I've done all sorts and you're still I mean you're still doing that right now except you're

742
00:49:07.200 --> 00:49:11.360
doing it differently you're doing it now you're doing it where you really feel alignment first

743
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:17.440
yeah and if you feel alignment it's like boom right let's hit that yeah yeah and it's okay

744
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:24.720
to change and it's okay to grow and it's okay to say no like even for me turning away

745
00:49:25.520 --> 00:49:34.320
lots of money massive contracts like we you know essentially could have been really set up

746
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:40.480
right now um but God's predict like what we think we're losing out on God is just like

747
00:49:41.040 --> 00:49:47.680
no sorry like I've got this you don't need to worry like when I let go of our contracts I let

748
00:49:47.680 --> 00:49:56.320
go of $140,000 because I just valued I valued that rest I was like I need to go into full

749
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.840
restoration mode and I had a whole year of just

750
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:08.240
resting. But God, by some miracle, we bought a house right before the market boomed. And now

751
00:50:08.240 --> 00:50:17.520
we've got $500,000 in equity in our house in 18 months. That's like over triple of what we

752
00:50:17.520 --> 00:50:26.400
left behind. And God's just like, I've got you. It's okay. So that's just an encouragement to

753
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:32.320
people. Sometimes we just hold on to things and they're dead and gone. And you know, it's like,

754
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:37.760
nah, it's time to move forward and just trust God wherever he's leading. And to be honest,

755
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:43.440
it's always been blindfolded for us. We have not known any time.

756
00:50:45.040 --> 00:50:49.040
We've got Renee Lansdowne here dropping some love bombs here for you.

757
00:50:49.600 --> 00:50:53.040
I love you, Renee. You're amazing.

758
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:57.040
She's coming to my surf retreat.

759
00:50:59.520 --> 00:51:06.640
Yeah, come on. We just love Renee. So here's something that people might not have really

760
00:51:06.640 --> 00:51:13.280
considered in the context of, you know, the possibility of building multiple income streams

761
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:16.560
and not just building multiple income streams, building multiple income streams,

762
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:23.920
dramatically impacting lives. I mean, you're seeing more of a revival taking place on social

763
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:32.320
media than a lot of churches will see in a decade. It's wild. So I guess what I'm wanting to

764
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:37.040
try and highlight for people, and I'll get you just to comment on this in a second, but it's like

765
00:51:37.040 --> 00:51:45.680
the value of building a social media brand, a position of an influencer, what is possible

766
00:51:45.680 --> 00:51:49.600
of coming off the back of that? You know, it's a huge investment, isn't it?

767
00:51:49.600 --> 00:51:57.360
Yeah, it is. It's an investment of your time, your emotions, like everything. And I've always

768
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:05.360
been like quite invested into it because, you know, I've connected with people. When I look

769
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:13.200
through my messages and my social media, I just like, oh my gosh, it's insane. Because you're

770
00:52:13.200 --> 00:52:19.120
connecting with real people, you know, they have real lives, they have real issues. And when you

771
00:52:19.120 --> 00:52:25.920
just speak to their issues about with your experience, and you know, that's it. People

772
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:31.920
just need to know that they're not alone, you know, and that life can be turned around in a

773
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:41.040
second. I think people seeing me from what I was to what I am today, it's like, whoa, you know,

774
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:47.200
and you'll always have people that are against you. But I just am always like, nah, man, if God

775
00:52:47.200 --> 00:52:55.520
is for me, who can be against me? Because when you do things that you're called to do, and you do them

776
00:52:55.520 --> 00:53:02.640
well, you have people coming up against you. Yeah, but just don't, I just encourage people not to lose

777
00:53:02.640 --> 00:53:10.000
focus of all the good work that is being done. Like, and if I think about all the messages that

778
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:16.080
I've received, and the stories and the testimonies that I've had, that's only a drop in the ocean of

779
00:53:16.080 --> 00:53:22.720
the impact. Because now they're going out there. And they're sharing, you know, and it's never about,

780
00:53:22.720 --> 00:53:28.960
it's not even about us. You know, it's just about all these people who are seeing transformation

781
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:34.960
in their lives, because they're connecting with our creator. And it's so amazing. And it's so

782
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:43.280
simple. Yeah, so simple. And yeah, so I guess, in the context of a Kingdom Business Summit, I love

783
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:51.440
this for multiple reasons. Like, I know that building, building a brand online, this won't be

784
00:53:51.440 --> 00:54:00.160
everyone's. Yeah, thing. But it will be some people's thing. And some people, this is going

785
00:54:00.160 --> 00:54:03.760
to be a real opportunity for you. And this is actually going to be the platform that God wants

786
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:09.040
you to build. And when you build a social media platform, you build an online brand,

787
00:54:10.080 --> 00:54:17.840
I mean, you're building a platform that you can transform lives, spark revival, see cultural

788
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:24.640
transformation, political impact. And like you said, when you have a place of influence,

789
00:54:24.640 --> 00:54:29.120
you've lost count of how many income streams you've been able to run off the back of it, because

790
00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:36.000
influence is actually what every advertiser is trying to buy, they're trying to buy attention,

791
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:40.800
they're trying to buy traffic. And we've spent hundreds of 1000s of dollars as Raising Wealthy

792
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:46.160
buying traffic, you know, to, to catch people's attention. Well, this is what

793
00:54:51.680 --> 00:54:56.640
this is what you build as an influencer, you own the traffic, in a sense, you create all this

794
00:54:56.640 --> 00:54:59.760
traffic, you create all this attention, and you can use it.

795
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.400
for so many beautiful purposes.

796
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:05.580
And what I love the most is just, I mean,

797
00:55:05.580 --> 00:55:07.100
cause I love the fact that we can create

798
00:55:07.100 --> 00:55:08.680
multiple income streams, right?

799
00:55:08.680 --> 00:55:09.520
Yeah.

800
00:55:09.520 --> 00:55:10.920
And so you can have your money, make money

801
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:11.760
and things like that.

802
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:15.780
I love automation and that's cool for just making money,

803
00:55:15.780 --> 00:55:18.280
but those things you have to use the money afterwards

804
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:21.680
to make impact that doesn't make impact in the process.

805
00:55:21.680 --> 00:55:23.600
But what I love about social media influencing

806
00:55:23.600 --> 00:55:26.720
is you can completely transform a person's life

807
00:55:26.720 --> 00:55:30.880
in the process and you can also have income streams.

808
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:34.840
It's like this all in one package that the position,

809
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:37.280
the platform of influence just gets to radically

810
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:38.920
shape people's lives.

811
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:41.440
Yeah. And it's free.

812
00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:42.600
It's free.

813
00:55:42.600 --> 00:55:44.440
Like when my accountant would be like,

814
00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:45.360
what are your overheads?

815
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:47.160
I'm like, what do you mean?

816
00:55:48.040 --> 00:55:49.520
I'm like, oh, my wifi.

817
00:55:49.520 --> 00:55:50.360
I don't know.

818
00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:51.180
My phone.

819
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:53.360
Yeah.

820
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:56.040
How much capital investment did you need?

821
00:55:56.040 --> 00:55:56.880
Just a phone.

822
00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:00.640
I just needed my phone and internet

823
00:56:00.640 --> 00:56:04.720
and I could travel around the world, you know?

824
00:56:04.720 --> 00:56:05.560
Yeah.

825
00:56:05.560 --> 00:56:08.000
And that's what people don't realize and understand

826
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:11.240
with just being taught like this nine to five,

827
00:56:11.240 --> 00:56:12.520
Monday to Friday.

828
00:56:12.520 --> 00:56:16.520
And like, honestly, when I wake up and I'm like,

829
00:56:16.520 --> 00:56:17.840
this is our life.

830
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.800
I feel like we're living on a holiday.

831
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:21.960
And when I used to tell people, I was like,

832
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:23.720
oh, I'm going to make money off social media.

833
00:56:23.720 --> 00:56:25.800
They were like, you're crazy.

834
00:56:26.560 --> 00:56:27.400
You can't do that.

835
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:29.840
And I found a way, because I was like, no, I can.

836
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:32.760
I know that I'm, I know I can do this

837
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:34.760
because I started to think,

838
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:37.680
oh, if I've got 10,000 followers right now

839
00:56:37.680 --> 00:56:41.760
and, you know, 5,000 people are seeing this one thing,

840
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:46.280
I'm like, brands pay 10,000 bucks for a billboard.

841
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:49.480
You know, they pay a hundred K for an ad on TV

842
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:53.880
and they don't know who they're going to touch, you know?

843
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:57.640
And that was the thing for brands that I was working with.

844
00:56:57.640 --> 00:57:01.360
I was making like hundreds of thousands in sales, you know?

845
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:03.760
And there were amazing products that I loved.

846
00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:05.280
I was like, oh, well, I love these.

847
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:07.000
I use them.

848
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:08.080
They work.

849
00:57:08.080 --> 00:57:09.080
They're great.

850
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:11.400
Why not?

851
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:12.480
Come on.

852
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:13.320
So good.

853
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:15.800
Hey, we're going to bring it in for a landing,

854
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:19.680
but the last thing I would like just to have you speak on

855
00:57:19.680 --> 00:57:24.680
is just speaking to people who feel like they have a voice,

856
00:57:28.160 --> 00:57:29.640
but they're just on the edge of, you know,

857
00:57:29.640 --> 00:57:31.760
like they're thinking about taking some action.

858
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:33.320
What would you say to those people who feel like,

859
00:57:33.320 --> 00:57:35.960
hey, I feel like I've got something building in me

860
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:39.440
and social media platform might be the space for me.

861
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:40.280
What would you say to those people

862
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:41.680
who are kind of right on the edge of thinking

863
00:57:41.680 --> 00:57:43.680
maybe I should do something here?

864
00:57:43.680 --> 00:57:46.520
Yeah, I would just say, just start.

865
00:57:46.520 --> 00:57:49.240
Just start, just be yourself

866
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:51.280
and just start.

867
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:53.520
I wouldn't share too much with people

868
00:57:53.520 --> 00:57:54.680
about what you're going to do

869
00:57:54.680 --> 00:57:58.560
because I just know that some people are like, oh no,

870
00:57:58.560 --> 00:58:00.840
you know, and that can put you off,

871
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:04.000
but just start, just do something

872
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:07.800
and move towards whatever you feel called and doing.

873
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:12.120
And if that's what you want to do, you will do it well.

874
00:58:12.120 --> 00:58:13.920
And you don't have to have a plan

875
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:16.520
and be all like strategic about it.

876
00:58:16.520 --> 00:58:19.840
Just start, just start sharing your heart, you know,

877
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.480
just start speaking on your experiences

878
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:24.240
and connecting with people.

879
00:58:24.240 --> 00:58:27.640
People just want to feel like they have been heard

880
00:58:27.640 --> 00:58:29.400
and they have been seen.

881
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:31.520
And I truly believe for me, you know,

882
00:58:31.520 --> 00:58:32.600
like I've always had like,

883
00:58:32.600 --> 00:58:37.160
oh, you're so public with your life and all this stuff.

884
00:58:37.160 --> 00:58:39.880
And I'm like, what you see on social media

885
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:42.200
is like five minutes of my day.

886
00:58:42.200 --> 00:58:43.440
That's not my whole day.

887
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:45.160
I share what I want to share

888
00:58:45.160 --> 00:58:49.720
and I get to curate that to however I want.

889
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:52.920
And there's nothing wrong with wanting to share.

890
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.080
There's nothing wrong with wanting to help people

891
00:58:55.080 --> 00:58:56.520
and make a difference.

892
00:58:56.520 --> 00:59:00.280
And I can honestly say, even in the sharing,

893
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.200
there's so much healing for yourself as well.

894
00:59:03.200 --> 00:59:06.640
And you'll just, yeah, you'll just start flourishing

895
00:59:06.640 --> 00:59:08.680
when you're doing the things that you want to do

896
00:59:08.680 --> 00:59:11.760
because you just get held back otherwise

897
00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:13.160
and you just never do it.

898
00:59:14.160 --> 00:59:16.000
Yeah, absolutely.

899
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:16.840
I hear you.

900
00:59:19.120 --> 00:59:20.160
It's so cool.

901
00:59:20.160 --> 00:59:22.760
So Zoe, I just want to say thank you.

902
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:23.600
And I want to thank you as well

903
00:59:23.600 --> 00:59:25.480
because I really feel that a lot of people

904
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:27.640
are like having lights go on right now going,

905
00:59:27.640 --> 00:59:32.280
oh man, I didn't realize that if I want to start a business

906
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:35.120
or I want to start impacting lives

907
00:59:35.120 --> 00:59:36.640
or I want to start building a platform

908
00:59:36.640 --> 00:59:38.240
and all I need is this.

909
00:59:38.240 --> 00:59:40.600
I just need a phone or a laptop

910
00:59:40.600 --> 00:59:43.040
or you just go to a library, right?

911
00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:45.080
You don't even have to own it.

912
00:59:45.080 --> 00:59:47.000
You can just borrow it.

913
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:49.000
You can create free accounts.

914
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:50.680
So you don't have to really have anything,

915
00:59:50.680 --> 00:59:52.320
just access to the internet,

916
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:54.960
create a free account on Instagram or Facebook

917
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:56.280
or something like that.

918
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:59.600
And you've got everything that you need right there.

919
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.440
you know for people especially if you're starting with nothing you're like man how can I start from

920
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:08.080
scratch and build something amazing you can just start right there with next to nothing

921
01:00:08.080 --> 01:00:13.360
and you can build something that is impacting like you like you've built thousands of lives

922
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:19.760
being touched generating hundreds of thousands of dollars in sales and a real resource and a tool

923
01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:26.960
for personal transformation cultural transformation political impact and um and as a result I mean

924
01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:34.400
like this gives you freedom right like do you you don't you don't work a job you just and I don't

925
01:00:35.040 --> 01:00:41.600
ever want to because I've I know what I I know what I'm capable of now and that was with

926
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:48.960
my phone you know because I've heard too many people say I need to get once I get to this place

927
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:55.600
that's when I'll start and I'm like nah man you're gonna start right here right now like even if

928
01:00:55.600 --> 01:01:01.840
you're at the lowest of the low or the worst of the worst start somewhere yeah start somewhere and

929
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:09.280
move forward and that's it's that simple like there's no magic pill just start be yourself

930
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:15.600
do it come on fantastic all right hey why don't you pray for us to close this up and then we're

931
01:01:15.600 --> 01:01:21.440
going to be going into grab gabby which is going to be exciting all right oh I just want to honor

932
01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:26.880
you too thank you lord thank you for benji thank you for raising royalty thank you for this

933
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:33.600
incredible platform I just pray that you continue to bless it as you're impacting lives from all

934
01:01:33.600 --> 01:01:40.080
around the world um we just give all the honor and the glory to you I just bless every single person

935
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watching this right now we just thank you so much I pray that lights are going on and they stay on

936
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and that um a fire starts to burn within people and they start to go out there into the world and

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do what they're called to do and use their gifts and talents to just transform not just their lives

938
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but people around them lord I thank you we love you so much papa in jesus name amen amen papa we

939
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thank you for zoe we thank you for putting a lot of fresh fire just infusing it into every word

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every photo every video that she posts probably thank you for a fresh fire uh lord being infused

941
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into everything that that fire of your love will light people's hearts up like never before but we

942
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thank you for the vulnerability that she's shared with we thank you for the power of her voice

943
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and the power of her testimony we thank you for how every word has impacted each life those are

944
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listening live and those in the future in jesus name amen amen thank you so much you're amazing

945
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oh such a delight zoe thank you so much uh everyone's saying hi hi um people are so stoked

946
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on what you uh are sharing here paradigm shifts what a beautiful woman courageous woman yes

947
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inspired love um yeah just yeah people are loving it so thank you lots of comments coming in here

948
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lots of love lots of thank yous so um yeah lots of love to you from all over the world

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so grateful and we'll catch you soon bye bye