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Let's get started.

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Hello beautiful people.

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How are you?

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Welcome.

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Welcome to the kingdom creative Zoom chat.

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We are so glad you are all jumping in and tuning in.

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I know it will take a few minutes as you all jump in.

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We will give you a few seconds as you all hop in.

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We are going to be talking about the myth of the sacred and secular divide.

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It will be great.

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I will give you some time to jump on in.

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I will give you a few seconds to jump in.

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Hi, how are you?

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I hope you are all doing well.

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I hope you all are doing well and having a great morning or afternoon or evening.

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We are going to be talking about the myth of the sacred and secular divide.

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I will give you a few seconds to jump in.

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We are going to be talking about the myth of the sacred and secular divide.

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As I mentioned earlier,

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we are going to be talking about debunking the sacred and secular myth.

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The divide that the world and the church is so often wrestled with.

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We will be talking about that and how that relates to us in our artistic

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creative expression.

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I will give you a few seconds to jump in.

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I would love to see where you are tuning in from.

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We have all of you beautiful people tuning in from.

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We have India, the States.

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Where else are you guys from?

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I am tuning in from Vancouver, Canada.

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It is a beautiful winter day.

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I love it.

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Another fellow Canadian.

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I love it.

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So great.

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Now we are supposed to have pouring rain the next week.

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Everyone is trying to hold onto the last few days of sunshine.

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That vitamin D.

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That is awesome.

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Is it Jeremy?

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That is such a cool way to spell your name.

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That is so cool.

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I have never seen a name spelled like that.

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That is so awesome.

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I love it.

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They are so unique.

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How about different ones?

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Leander, Thomas.

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Awesome.

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How is it going in India?

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How was your day?

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I had a really long day.

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It is 1030 in the night here.

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It has been good.

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We are getting back to the normal life.

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The post-COVID life.

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Now people are

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trying to get into the normal thing.

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There are a lot of cases.

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The government said

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you can do whatever you want.

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Just be careful.

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Take care of yourself.

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They removed all the restrictions.

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frustrated.

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people are really struggling to live, do their life.

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So they actually took away a lot of restrictions

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and rules and stuff.

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So all the people are outside and wearing masks

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and some are not, and yeah, it's crazy, but it's good.

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Oh my gosh, I can't wait for that to happen in Canada.

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Like remove the mandates, this is crazy.

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I'm so ready to get out in society and just,

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I mean, nothing will ever be normal again,

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but you know, you want to go back to like life,

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humanity, interaction, you know what I mean?

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All that, so I'm so glad that you have that.

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That is like, oh, all my friends in different countries

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that are like that too, they're just like,

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yeah, everyone's out, there's no mask,

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people are interacting.

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I'm like, come on Canada, get your act together.

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So we're on our way.

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So I'm glad that that's happening in India.

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So good, so good.

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Just see more of you popping on.

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We just say, hi, welcome.

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We're so glad you're here.

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We're so looking forward to today's chat.

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Beautiful people, love seeing your faces,

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love seeing your names.

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So yeah, so looking forward to connecting with you guys.

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Awesome, yeah, actually, as we just,

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before we get into it and just start sharing,

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would love to hear what kind of art you're involved in,

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what kind of creativity, what impression,

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maybe if you want to just unmute yourself

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and just take 30 seconds and just introduce yourself,

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say hi, where you're from, and then what you do.

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Like, are you in architecture?

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Are you in fashion?

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Do you love poetry?

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Are you in singing?

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Do you love cooking?

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Or are you like, I'm not really an artist,

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but I just love creativity and I want to grow in it.

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Are you an author?

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What aspect of creativity do you do?

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So yeah, why don't you just hop off just for 30 seconds,

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say hi, and let us know where you're from

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and then what art you love.

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Who's going to be brave?

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Who's going to do the first one?

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Come on, you beautiful people.

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Well, I'll go first.

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I'm Zailin and I'm a singer-songwriter.

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I'm a musician and yeah, I'm from India.

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I actually base here and travel around and play music.

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And right now I'm actually producing my another single

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and yeah, it's good.

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Awesome.

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So who's next?

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Yes.

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So fun.

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Zailin is like world-class drummer,

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incredible digital design.

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He has a beautiful voice.

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His songs are like next level.

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One of his songs, like if you know the Pharrell happy song,

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one of his songs gives me the same feeling.

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It is the most beautiful music video.

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We're going to have to, can you do that?

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Can you link that song?

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You know, this song that you're like dancing

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in different things and you've got like kids dancing

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and you're like dancing on the beat.

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You need to play that for everyone

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because it's phenomenal.

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So Zailin is just such a gift in so many ways.

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And then within Raising Royalty,

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he heads up our kingdom creative whole kind of ministry.

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And he has so many good kind of gold nuggets,

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wisdom, creative tools, things just to encourage you

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and just build you up,

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things to give you new perspective input.

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So if you're not part of our Raising Royalty tribe yet

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or part of our Facebook group, so wanna encourage you.

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We have a whole page for kingdom creatives

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and it is so encouraging,

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just like really great strategic things,

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knowledge, wisdom, revelation, things that are practical,

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things that are more artistic,

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things that are spiritual, the whole thing.

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So encourage you to check that out.

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Laura, you are from Texas.

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You're an abstract artist.

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Amazing.

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I love abstract art.

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Isalina, you're a dancer and you dance for the Lord.

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I love it.

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I love dancing too.

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Anya, hi.

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You wanna say hi?

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Oh, it's, oh, hold on.

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You're muted, my love.

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Do you know how to unmute yourself?

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Yeah.

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There we go.

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Oh, hi.

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Yeah, we can hear you.

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I was just busy typing and then I was like,

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oh, it's easier to just talk.

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Yes, of course.

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I'm Anya.

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I'm from Wellington, New Zealand

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and I am an editor, writer, author,

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but I also own a beautiful publishing company

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and just a Christian publishing company

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where we help Christians publish books.

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So I've got a lovely team of creatives.

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um yeah editors, cover designers, formatters um and we help yeah Christians basically get their

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the books that have started on God's heart we help them get them out so I'm really excited

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for my team to watch this later in the day it's 6am here. Wow yeah. Anya that is amazing. Thank

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you so much for this this is amazing. Oh gosh we love this it's just such a joy to connect with

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people around the world and artists and be like we're on this journey together of discovering

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kind of who we are in God what God's heart is how do we just champion and serve one another

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and expressing the fullness of who he's called us to be and releasing heaven on earth and then

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actually building together and releasing fruit that nourishes and nurtures people and actually

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brings light and color and healing and breakthrough and deliverance and fullness of God so this is

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such a joy so thank you for who you are and what you do and thank you for saying hi. I lived in

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New Zealand for about eight, nine, ten years so I love Aotearoa. I miss it. I went to high school

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in Canada so maybe you know. Yes totally let's do it. Yeah so good to see you thanks for saying hi

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um does anybody else want to pop on and just say hi for 30 seconds where you're from what you do

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your artistic expression we just love seeing all the amazing people part of these zooms

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um I see that lc roll says um that you are in I'm so sorry I don't know how to say Himachal

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Pradesh in north India it's raining I don't know my network is unstable if it might not continue

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okay Jesus we just pray that your network and your wi-fi will be strong and you can stay with us

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but thanks for saying hi

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does anybody else want to just say hi what you do what you love

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you don't even have to do it as a profession it could just be something that you love

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hi my name is Karen I'm from Canada hi Karen I'm in Saskatchewan here um

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I I always think of the creative design is just who God is deposited inside us

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right who we are and how we express how how we express Him through us

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so I don't know if that's what what everyone else believes but yeah I know um it was even

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it was even prophesied over me that I would be artistic and

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I was like oh how's that gonna happen this is a while ago

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so I'm um I'm a tutor during the day I um but I'm moving into a more coach uh coaching space

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okay so um yeah I I help women move from a place of abort um from their abortion

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abortive past port of spirit experience into a restored dignity so that's my coaching space

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Karen that is incredible yeah well you take your mass and you make it your message yeah

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amen that is just and that's I think one of the the most beautiful um hearts of creativity is that

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it's redemptive that we need creativity in every aspect of our life you know to to do our accounts

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and our finances to make a home to do relationships to make food like creative is expressed in

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everything and who we are and what we do because we are made in the image of God and God is a

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creator and the whole I mean I shouldn't say the whole one of the beautiful fruits of creativity

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is redemption it's restoration it's healing and so when you're taking that creative expression

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through your coaching and through relationship and you are loving people and allowing that

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creative flow to bring redemption and restoration and beauty from ashes and joy from mourning and a

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spirit of praise where there's been heaviness I mean that is what art does that is what creativity

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does that is what the creative spirit does it brings transformation it brings redemption it

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brings people from darkness to light from death to life and you know creativity can be used in so many

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destructive ways but when the heart and the spirit and the motivation behind it is love

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there is nothing it can't do it can't heal and bring breakthrough and transformation so I love

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that thank you for saying hi and sharing that and we just pray that God would just continue to bring

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the utmost resurrection life to these beautiful women

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and that they would be given a double portion of honor.

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That says that in Isaiah 61,

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right after it goes to the beauty for ashes,

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joy for mourning,

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praise that there'd be a double portion of honor

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where we've had shame.

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And we all need that in our life.

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We all have had shame and we need that double portion

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of honor and love and redemption gives that to us

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in the grace of Jesus.

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So, so bring it on.

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I love it, Karen.

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Amen.

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Saying hi.

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Hi.

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Another lady say hi.

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Hi, Diane, how are you?

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I'm good.

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Yeah, I was kind of hesitant to share

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because like, you know,

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but you gave such a beautiful space for it.

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And I'm loving everything I'm hearing already

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because I'm coming out of a difficult place,

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you know, just getting over anxiety

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and depression from something painful.

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And it's almost like trying to find myself again.

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And I, and I am, you know,

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I do see myself creative.

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It just hasn't.

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like everybody loves my food

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and nutritional delicious snacks,

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like bringing my creativity that way.

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God has used my pain that I'm mentoring

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and helping bringing out like what you're saying,

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the beauty out of other women.

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to be able to take away the stigma

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from everybody else so that I can come into this space.

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but I'm wanting to receive

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so that I can step up with everybody.

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that we all probably can understand

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and relate to that and just validate

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that tender vulnerable place

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when it's like, you're just in the battle every day

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and you're fighting for the territory of your heart

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and your mind, emotionally, mentally,

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spiritually, physically.

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that there would be a real kiss to your heart

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from the father.

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There would be that creative force of his ability to lift.

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You're the glory and the lifter of our head.

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of the pain, of the trauma,

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of the unforeseen circumstances, whatever it is,

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been there, done that,

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still walking through so much myself.

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where we go, wow, I'm not alone.

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that's going to pierce through all of the layers of stuff.

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you know, that hand that comes,

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like he put a new stone in my spirit.

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Like he lifted me up from the miry clay.

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He's put me on the rock.

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That's the 140 reality of those that look to the Lord

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are radiant, you know, Psalm 34.

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God, you're the glory and the lifter of our head.

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We just keep lifting our head to you.

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You let that joy and that light

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and that come sing over us.

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You know, he delights over you with singing.

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is actually us just in surrender

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to how madly in love he is with us

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and allowing him to sing over us as his beloved

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and actually being in a posture to receive.

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and how seen we are.

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and demanding something.

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He's like that shepherd that comes right in the midst

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of what we're going through and with us in it.

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and he's every trigger is a treasure

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and every moment of trauma,

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he brings us from trauma into triumph.

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This is our father.

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This is the lover of our soul.

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This is our best friend.

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who literally like everything he touches,

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it just turns to gold.

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It turns to healing.

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It turns to the miraculous.

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There's a miracle in the mess.

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and I pray that you and each one of us,

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and we give and receive to one another.

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resurrection life flow of going,

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we're in this together as sons and daughters.

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show us who you are again.

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Teach us, remind us who you are.

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Wow us, captivate us with your beauty,

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with your voice, with your presence, with your kingdom.

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Release angels.

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Come take us up in throne room encounters.

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Open us up to heaven like we've never seen before.

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realm is so much more real than the natural. So God, cause us to come alive to us, like

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take us up. So I'm going to stop talking, but it's so good to hear. I want to hear from

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other people that want to say hi, but bless you, Diane. Thank you for saying hi. Is there

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anyone else that just wants to say hi and let us know where you're from and let us know

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kind of what you love creatively, maybe your profession or your art or your passion or

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your hobby. Hi everyone. Hi, how are you? I'm okay. Hi. How are you Dana? Good. It's

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good to see you again. Nice to see you again too. I, I, I was free today, so I figured

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I'd jump on. I saw the email. I was like, ah, yeah. Hi, my name is Leander. I'm from

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the Caribbean. I'm from an Island called Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean. Beautiful

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place where the place that the steel pan was created. So that's us. I'm a writer, songwriter

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and filmmaker. Those are my areas for creativity. And it's, it's a beautiful thing to be able

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to explore those passions in the kingdom. So I am very happy to be here saying hello.

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So all you wonderful people and hi Dana. Thanks for putting this together. And hi Zylon. Remember

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you from last time, sir. Yes. Yes. Good to see you again. Yeah. And now Dana, she dropped

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the hint. You got to drop the video now. Cause now I want to see it. Honestly, it is.

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So when I first saw it, I was like, like when I first heard the happy song from Pharrell,

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I was like, woo, just like death all the time. And when I saw this video from Zylon, I was

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like, Zylon. Oh my gosh. Like it was just like, honestly, I got full of so much joy,

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the creativity, like just the videography, his voice, the song. I was like, Zylon, you're

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legit. Oh my gosh. You're awesome. By the way, I actually write in my language. It's an Indian

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language. It's called Malayalam. It's not English, but the spirit, I think everybody can like

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vibe into it. Zylon, I don't know if you know, but my country is more than 45% East Indian.

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So that's the direct route to India. So bring it on man. There's curry running through my veins.

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Amazing. I love that.

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There's curry running through my veins. That is the line of the day.

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So good. That is so awesome. Yes. So Zylon, come on. Give the people what they want.

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I'm literally eating curry right now. Let's go.

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That's awesome. Jeremy, yes. Oh, I love it. So when I grew up, we had a Bollywood movie

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every Sunday. So yeah. Oh my gosh. Wow. Yeah. And well, obviously cricket, we battle

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all the time. West Indies versus India. So bring it on man. Drop the link already.

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The only problem though, is like, you're all going to go off the Zoom and then you're all

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going to watch the movie and then I'll be like, come on everyone. After the Zoom.

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Just because we want to like engage with y'all. We just want to be with y'all. But no, honestly,

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it's so good. So much. And we also have our amazing Fi, who is in Madagascar, who's got

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beautiful music as well. I don't think he's able to join us today. He might join us a bit later,

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but he is just such a gift as well. His music. And if you've seen some of his stuff through

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Raising Royalty, he won the talent quest, the Raising Royalty talent quest that we did last

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year, which we're doing another one again, hopefully in a few months. I think we're

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still trying to nail down the exact date. So any of you that want to come through and

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be part of that talent quest, it would be amazing to have you part of it.

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So thank you for saying hi, Leanne. It's so good to see your beautiful face.

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Okay. I didn't hear you that last little bit, but I'm feeling the.

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Sorry. I said, thank you, Dana. Always great to be here. Bless you.

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Oh, bless you so much. Okay. Well, we might just hop into our topic today and we'll be kind of

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interactive. I'm just actually going to grab my notes. One second.

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probably just like a few of the basics,

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knowing that we all come from different walks of life.

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We all come from different spiritual journeys.

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We all come from different denominations.

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We come from different cultures.

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We come from so many different aspects of life.

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once all this is the truth,

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but this is where we're at in our journey.

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These are the things, the revelation,

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the different aspects of scripture,

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things that we've learned in our artistic journey.

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is to be as redemptive as possible.

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It's to be as liberating.

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Like my heart in this is that

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every time we do one of these chats

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and there's just different content

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or encouragements or exhortations

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or different things that we're sharing

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is that it would be liberating.

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It would be awakening.

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There would be more freedom for you.

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There would be the spirit of wisdom and revelation

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in the knowledge of Jesus,

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in the knowledge of the kingdom,

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in the knowledge of his heart,

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his nature and his character

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that would be awakening you

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in who you're created to be as a son and daughter,

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as a man or a woman,

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as a creative that would spark something in you

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to just come alive and thrive like never before,

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that you would come alive,

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that ideas would come,

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that yeah, whether it's a script,

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whether it's a book,

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whether it's a recipe,

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whether it's an idea for your coaching practice,

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whether it's something in your marriage

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or your relationship,

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whether it's something,

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whatever it is,

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that the whole motivation is love,

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that everything we do,

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we want it to be the motivation of love,

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that we want to love the Lord, our God,

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with all of our heart,

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with all of our soul,

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with all of our mind,

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with all of our strength.

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the myth between sacred and secular

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is that what we've discovered as biblical

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is that there is nothing that is just sacred

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or secular in the kingdom,

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that everything is sacred,

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everything is spiritual.

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Psalm 24 declares that everything in the earth

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is the Lord's,

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every person,

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every created thing,

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the world is the Lord's

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and the fullness thereof,

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everything is the Lord's.

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and there can be,

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there's no like inherently good or bad things.

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It's actually the heart and the spirit

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and the motivation behind what we're doing

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with that created thing.

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in different aspects of our life

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that we think, well,

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church on Sunday is spiritual.

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to the prayer group for an hour,

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that's spiritual.

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from Monday to Saturday,

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that's just work

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and God's not involved.

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because so many different scriptures that come to mind

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is that we're exhorted that whatever you do,

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whether you're eating or drinking,

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do it unto the glory of God.

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that it says,

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whatever you do work at,

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whatever you do,

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work at it with all of your heart

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as working for the Lord,

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not as human masters,

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since you know that you will receive

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an inheritance from the Lord as a reward.

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It is the Lord Christ that you are serving.

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we want it to be done unto the glory of God,

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which means that there's no compartmentalizing.

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well, then that's just for God.

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or like, this is when God shows up.

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And when he doesn't,

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00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.040
like God wants to show up with his anointing,

508
00:28:52.040 --> 00:28:53.040
with his presence,

509
00:28:53.040 --> 00:28:54.000
with his voice,

510
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:57.920
as powerfully when you're in a business meeting,

511
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.920
when you are in the car,

512
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:02.480
when you are out on the street,

513
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.560
when you're in the grocery store talking to someone,

514
00:29:04.560 --> 00:29:06.000
the Holy Spirit can fall.

515
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:07.400
Because why?

516
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:09.160
Because he's inside of you.

517
00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:11.960
Because everything in the kingdom is relational.

518
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:14.040
Because you host the presence of God.

519
00:29:14.080 --> 00:29:16.120
God is inside of you.

520
00:29:16.120 --> 00:29:18.800
And the earth is the Lord and the fullness thereof.

521
00:29:18.800 --> 00:29:23.800
And so we don't like divide between what is spiritual,

522
00:29:25.360 --> 00:29:26.200
what is sacred,

523
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:27.960
because it's all spiritual.

524
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:29.040
Everything that we do,

525
00:29:29.040 --> 00:29:30.640
everything that we're a part of,

526
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:32.400
we want to love the Lord, our God,

527
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:33.360
with all of our heart,

528
00:29:33.360 --> 00:29:35.000
with all of our soul, mind, and strength.

529
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:37.720
And so everything that we put our hand to,

530
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:40.720
every moment makes a difference.

531
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.080
Every moment is affected in eternity

532
00:29:43.080 --> 00:29:45.680
and actually eternal life is now.

533
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:47.840
And the moment that we come into union with God,

534
00:29:47.840 --> 00:29:49.960
we are one in spirit with God,

535
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:51.400
eternal life is now.

536
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:53.440
And so everything we do

537
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:55.960
is meant to be this flow of eternal life.

538
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.640
This flow, this we live and we move

539
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:00.200
and we have our being in God.

540
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.800
thought, it talks about that in Acts. So if we're living and

541
00:30:03.800 --> 00:30:05.920
we're moving, and we're having our being in God, then

542
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:10.000
everything is a divine exchange of life. Everything is a divine

543
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:15.000
exchange of love. Everything is a divine exchange of receiving

544
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.280
and giving this kind of cyclical thing of that we're receiving

545
00:30:19.280 --> 00:30:21.800
from the Lord, and we're giving to others and receiving for

546
00:30:21.800 --> 00:30:22.480
ourselves.

547
00:30:26.120 --> 00:30:29.520
One of the things I was listening to, which was really

548
00:30:29.520 --> 00:30:32.240
powerful, I don't know if you guys have ever kind of done

549
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:36.040
this. I know, growing up as a Christian, I had a lot of

550
00:30:36.040 --> 00:30:40.280
religious mindsets of what I deemed as okay, and what I

551
00:30:40.280 --> 00:30:47.000
deemed as wrong. So different music or different certain

552
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:50.200
activities or certain things. And I was listening to a message

553
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:54.440
yesterday where this really well known rap artist was wearing a

554
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:57.960
skull on his t-shirt. And someone came up to him and said,

555
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:01.440
I knew it. I knew you were part of the Illuminati. I knew you

556
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.360
were messing around with demons, all this stuff. And he was like,

557
00:31:04.520 --> 00:31:07.560
really? Oh, how did you know that? He's like, you're wearing

558
00:31:07.560 --> 00:31:12.000
a skull on your shirt. He's like, Oh, is that what shows?

559
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.800
Yeah, it's evil. And he was like, Do you know that I have a

560
00:31:14.800 --> 00:31:19.800
skull in my head? Like, the person was like, huh? He's like,

561
00:31:19.800 --> 00:31:23.320
yeah, that skull is actually just in my head. You have a

562
00:31:23.320 --> 00:31:26.840
skull too. We all have a skull. And it was the lens that this

563
00:31:26.840 --> 00:31:29.600
person was looking at, like, oh, you have a black t-shirt on

564
00:31:29.600 --> 00:31:33.880
with a white skull on that's evil. I'm judging that as evil

565
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.240
rather than why is it evil? What's the lens that you're

566
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.280
looking at? And so we look at created things. And, and we look

567
00:31:41.280 --> 00:31:44.000
at everything in life. And we can say that's good, or that's

568
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.920
bad. But actually, everything that the Lord has created in

569
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:51.400
life, is meant to be a blessing, just like money. It's not good

570
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:54.600
or evil. It's actually neutral. It's actually the heart and the

571
00:31:54.600 --> 00:31:58.080
spirit behind how you handle money. What are you using the

572
00:31:58.080 --> 00:32:03.680
money for? The same thing like, dancing is good, right? Dancing

573
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:06.760
is a beautiful expression. Now, can you use dancing in a way

574
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.880
that actually leads you into something that might not be

575
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:14.800
redemptive and beautiful and life giving, of course. But

576
00:32:14.840 --> 00:32:20.080
dancing is also this beautiful, expressive way of loving life

577
00:32:20.080 --> 00:32:23.760
and connecting with people and worshiping God. Everything in

578
00:32:23.760 --> 00:32:27.120
life can be used for good or bad. It's actually the heart and

579
00:32:27.120 --> 00:32:32.400
the motivation behind it. And there are some things I think in

580
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:36.400
life and in culture, that when we look at it through the

581
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:40.960
redemptive way, everything we want to see within cultures, we

582
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.640
want to see rehabilitation, we want to see restoration, we want

583
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:49.240
to see redemption. Now, there are certain things within life

584
00:32:49.280 --> 00:32:52.200
that we don't necessarily want to rehabilitate, we just want to

585
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:59.080
see the redemptive purpose come through. So there are certain

586
00:32:59.120 --> 00:33:06.600
maybe activities or interactions. I'm just trying to

587
00:33:06.600 --> 00:33:09.480
think, there's so many things that are coming to mind. For

588
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:12.880
instance, the gift of sex is a beautiful gift that God has

589
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:16.800
given us. So we want to see that using the most redemptive life

590
00:33:16.800 --> 00:33:20.720
giving way that God's given us that gift within the covenant of

591
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.120
marriage so that it can thrive. So when we look at prostitution,

592
00:33:24.280 --> 00:33:26.440
we don't want to go Yeah, we want to rehabilitate

593
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:29.080
prostitution. Yeah, I'm going to do prostitution for the Lord.

594
00:33:29.080 --> 00:33:32.560
No, we want to see rehabilitation and honor for

595
00:33:32.560 --> 00:33:35.440
these men and these women that go, hey, there's a real need

596
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.840
that's trying to get met here. But it's getting met in an

597
00:33:37.840 --> 00:33:41.040
unhealthy way. And so we want to see redemption, we want to see

598
00:33:41.040 --> 00:33:44.880
the gift that God has given us to be used in a beautiful way.

599
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:49.000
And so when we're looking at culture, especially through the

600
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.320
artistic lens, there might be substance abuse, there might be

601
00:33:52.320 --> 00:33:56.000
over like different relational things, there might be over

602
00:33:56.040 --> 00:33:59.240
hypersexual things, there might be the whole money thing, there

603
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:02.000
might be the whole identity thing. So there's some things

604
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.120
that yes, there is good and evil, there is purity and

605
00:34:05.120 --> 00:34:07.800
righteousness, and there is a sense of Oh, that leads to

606
00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:10.760
death. But what we want to do within having eyes of the

607
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:14.760
kingdom, is that everything is spiritual. And so some things

608
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:18.199
that we would deem as evil might not necessarily be evil, it's

609
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:21.719
actually the heart behind it in the spirit. And so we want to

610
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:25.760
love people and go to where people are at, to bring love

611
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.360
into those places so that there can be redemption and

612
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:33.880
restoration and rehabilitation to how we are engaging with that

613
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:38.480
created thing or that gift or that thing. You know, fill in

614
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:40.880
the blank of all the things. Do you guys hear what I'm saying in

615
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:43.159
the chat? Or can you give me a thumbs up if you're tracking

616
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:48.000
with me? Yeah. So music, people used to think, oh, that music

617
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:53.719
is evil. That's secular music. But actually, that genre of

618
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:58.520
music is evil or that or that, but actually music is not evil.

619
00:34:58.520 --> 00:34:59.560
Like you can have

620
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:06.240
or hard heavy metal or hardcore this it's actually the spirit behind it and we're like oh that's

621
00:35:06.240 --> 00:35:12.800
christian music well there's actually no christian music it's actually the songwriter that is either

622
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:19.920
a christian who is writing and expressing and declaring and putting lyric and melody

623
00:35:20.560 --> 00:35:27.920
and expression to a truth a reality that is christian so you can have amazing god-honoring

624
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:33.840
music that doesn't necessarily talk about scriptures but actually is poetic and it's

625
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:39.680
description and it's life-giving of texture and sound and so then we move into the whole

626
00:35:39.680 --> 00:35:46.400
realm of our creative gift and that we just need to know that we can be empowered that we don't

627
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:54.800
have to have crosses and over christianese language and things to make something god-honoring or

628
00:35:54.800 --> 00:36:02.640
christian or for it to be transformative that art has the ability to cross lines and boundaries

629
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:11.200
relationally with people in culture in countries and it has the power to awaken us to spiritual

630
00:36:11.200 --> 00:36:16.640
realities that maybe don't always use words that don't always over explain something but it has

631
00:36:16.640 --> 00:36:24.400
the power to awaken every fiber of our being beauty like is captivating it allures and it

632
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:31.520
tells a story whether it's through architecture or sound or painting or movement you know how

633
00:36:31.520 --> 00:36:36.640
how many of you have watched someone dance and you've been moved to tears because what's happening

634
00:36:36.640 --> 00:36:41.280
there's no words but you're seeing a movement and it's awakening something in you or

635
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:47.600
you're tasting food and you're like oh my gosh i'm having an experience with heaven right now

636
00:36:47.600 --> 00:36:52.960
like this literally my taste buds are doing a happy dance and i am in the spirit or you're

637
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:59.680
listening to music and you don't i mean i listened to xylan's song the first time i had no idea what

638
00:36:59.680 --> 00:37:06.720
he was saying because i don't speak his language but my whole being was like like going nuts

639
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:13.920
um yes helen beauty is a universal language absolutely so there's so many more things i

640
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:18.800
could say but i'm gonna kind of end it there just at the moment i'm gonna throw it to xylan

641
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:25.520
but the beautiful thing in the expression of art is when you are living in your divine design

642
00:37:25.520 --> 00:37:30.720
and when you're living authentic to who you are so bringing it back to us as sons and daughters

643
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:37.360
as men and women who are on this journey of going how do i come alive and thrive how do i be the

644
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:45.120
most authentic version of myself and i think when we create art or we create anything from our life

645
00:37:45.120 --> 00:37:51.280
with the motivation one that it's a receiving of love that it's an awakening of who we've been

646
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:56.320
created to be and now it's an expression of that love and it's authentic to something that we're

647
00:37:56.320 --> 00:38:01.680
learning it's authentic to something that we are growing in that we're discovering that god's

648
00:38:01.680 --> 00:38:07.680
teaching us that we're going through real life stuff maybe it is pain or trauma or heartbreak

649
00:38:07.680 --> 00:38:14.160
or maybe it is blessing or maybe you're learning something anything that moves your heart will move

650
00:38:14.160 --> 00:38:19.520
someone else's and so when we create from that place that it's not just for the accolades of

651
00:38:19.520 --> 00:38:26.240
man or money or fame but we're actually creating art that moves us that's an authentic expression

652
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:34.160
and an exchange of life with us and god that is going to move the heart of other people

653
00:38:34.160 --> 00:38:39.440
but when you're trying to write or produce something so that it does that sometimes it

654
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:43.840
actually works against you but when you're in the flow of life when you're just in the flow of giving

655
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:52.080
and receiving that's when beauty and art can be so transformative living in our divine design so

656
00:38:52.080 --> 00:38:58.000
Zylan I'd love to hear a little bit more of what you're thinking and feeling and then we'll chat

657
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:02.480
a bit and then we'll open it up for different ones of you to share your thoughts your questions and

658
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:10.560
then we'll dialogue together awesome thank you Diana thank you for all the all the scriptures

659
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:21.120
it's so beautiful well I actually grew up in a Pentecostal background so I was actually

660
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:32.000
programmed to see the world in a way that us and them you know it's very isolated dualistic

661
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:40.160
kind of worldview you know our music is sacred and other other music is secular you know it's

662
00:39:40.160 --> 00:39:53.520
devil's music and I had this question you know I always actually because I started my musical

663
00:39:53.520 --> 00:39:59.680
journey as a drummer and most of my ideas in those days was

664
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.320
not Christians, you know,

665
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:04.360
I was listening to all the secular bands and stuff

666
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:06.740
and all the Christian bands were really bad.

667
00:40:06.740 --> 00:40:11.740
And there was no like great musicians in the church,

668
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:18.280
actually so much mediocrity

669
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:21.800
and there was no quality art happening in the church.

670
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:23.960
And I was like, and there was this pastors

671
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:26.480
and all are telling us no, like, no,

672
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.060
they talk about spirit of excellence,

673
00:40:29.060 --> 00:40:31.420
but there is no excellence in the church, you know,

674
00:40:31.420 --> 00:40:33.700
all the excellence is outside the church.

675
00:40:33.700 --> 00:40:37.500
And that's how I actually, I started learning

676
00:40:37.500 --> 00:40:40.500
and reading Bible in a different perspective.

677
00:40:40.500 --> 00:40:43.780
And I ended up in Wyvern Youth with a Mission

678
00:40:43.780 --> 00:40:48.780
and they actually brought a lot of paradigm shift

679
00:40:49.100 --> 00:40:52.980
into my thinking of doing ministry and, you know,

680
00:40:52.980 --> 00:40:56.100
and preaching gospel and, you know,

681
00:40:56.100 --> 00:40:59.020
doing missions in general.

682
00:40:59.860 --> 00:41:01.460
And right now I'm in a place that, you know,

683
00:41:01.460 --> 00:41:05.060
I've experienced, I've listened to a lot of people,

684
00:41:05.060 --> 00:41:10.060
learned a little bit of Bible and I am convinced

685
00:41:11.620 --> 00:41:14.020
you can be like, you know,

686
00:41:14.020 --> 00:41:17.020
it can be a little confusing for others

687
00:41:17.020 --> 00:41:20.700
because it takes a lot of time for me,

688
00:41:20.700 --> 00:41:24.660
it's a journey for me to come to this place.

689
00:41:24.660 --> 00:41:28.460
Maybe some of you guys might disagree,

690
00:41:28.460 --> 00:41:31.940
but I'm really open for conversation, you know,

691
00:41:31.940 --> 00:41:36.940
I know that, I mean, it can cause confusion or whatever,

692
00:41:37.020 --> 00:41:42.020
but we are here to, like, as Diana said,

693
00:41:42.260 --> 00:41:44.940
that we're all actually growing different dimensions

694
00:41:44.940 --> 00:41:48.980
and, you know, evolving different way.

695
00:41:48.980 --> 00:41:53.980
So this is what I am believing at this point of my life.

696
00:41:54.820 --> 00:41:58.820
And I'm convinced that, like Diana said,

697
00:41:58.820 --> 00:42:02.900
that there is nothing called sacred or secular

698
00:42:02.900 --> 00:42:07.340
because God is the God of all, the God of everything.

699
00:42:09.620 --> 00:42:14.620
And I believe that, you know, it's all actually comes from,

700
00:42:15.540 --> 00:42:18.740
I was actually listening to this message by Richard Rohr,

701
00:42:18.740 --> 00:42:20.460
one of my favorite theologians,

702
00:42:20.460 --> 00:42:22.660
and Richard Rohr was actually,

703
00:42:22.660 --> 00:42:23.940
there's a message in YouTube,

704
00:42:23.940 --> 00:42:27.580
it's called the shape of God, you know?

705
00:42:28.540 --> 00:42:32.060
The shape of God is like, the moment we understand God,

706
00:42:32.060 --> 00:42:34.620
that a lot of things actually settles, you know?

707
00:42:36.580 --> 00:42:38.340
I grew up in this, as I said,

708
00:42:38.340 --> 00:42:42.860
that in a very religious Pentecostal church.

709
00:42:42.860 --> 00:42:47.100
So my shape of God was this, you know,

710
00:42:47.100 --> 00:42:51.100
this old man, you know,

711
00:42:51.100 --> 00:42:56.100
trying to give all the list of do's and don'ts, you know?

712
00:42:56.380 --> 00:43:00.460
If we mess up, he'll throw us into fire.

713
00:43:00.460 --> 00:43:03.580
And, you know, if we do some good stuff,

714
00:43:03.580 --> 00:43:06.220
he'll, you know, put us in heaven

715
00:43:06.220 --> 00:43:08.540
or some sort of that kind of thing.

716
00:43:11.060 --> 00:43:16.060
But right now, I understand that God is a great father.

717
00:43:17.580 --> 00:43:19.580
He's always been like that.

718
00:43:19.620 --> 00:43:23.540
It's us actually evolved over the years, you know?

719
00:43:23.540 --> 00:43:26.780
As humanity, our consciousness is changed.

720
00:43:26.780 --> 00:43:29.300
Our understanding of God changed.

721
00:43:29.300 --> 00:43:32.660
And God never changed.

722
00:43:32.660 --> 00:43:36.660
He was always been the sweetest and merciful father,

723
00:43:36.660 --> 00:43:37.500
you know?

724
00:43:37.500 --> 00:43:38.500
He never changed.

725
00:43:38.500 --> 00:43:41.540
He's same yesterday, today, and forever.

726
00:43:41.540 --> 00:43:43.580
In a New Testament context, you know,

727
00:43:46.180 --> 00:43:48.380
I believe that this is all of the philosophy

728
00:43:48.380 --> 00:43:53.380
that I, as an artist, I actually live by.

729
00:43:53.420 --> 00:43:58.340
It goes like this, that I don't belong to a church.

730
00:43:58.340 --> 00:44:00.300
I don't work for a church.

731
00:44:00.300 --> 00:44:02.020
I am the church.

732
00:44:02.020 --> 00:44:03.620
That doesn't mean that, you know,

733
00:44:03.620 --> 00:44:06.420
I believe I belong to the church

734
00:44:06.420 --> 00:44:07.940
and I believe in the local,

735
00:44:07.940 --> 00:44:10.660
I mean, I belong to a local community, no.

736
00:44:10.660 --> 00:44:12.980
But the meaning is, I am the church.

737
00:44:12.980 --> 00:44:17.380
Wherever I go, the church is going, you know?

738
00:44:17.420 --> 00:44:21.980
And it doesn't matter if I, whatever I do,

739
00:44:21.980 --> 00:44:25.060
actually, my identity is not gonna change.

740
00:44:25.060 --> 00:44:28.340
It's part of who I am.

741
00:44:28.340 --> 00:44:32.620
And I've been starting writing songs

742
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with less Christian language.

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I am a worship leader.

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I travel around across the, in my country,

745
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and I lead worship, lead congregation to worship.

746
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I speak to youth camps and young people and all those guys.

747
00:44:45.620 --> 00:44:49.340
I do all the regular churchy stuff, you know, guys.

748
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And I've led a lot of people to Christ.

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00:44:55.820 --> 00:44:58.660
I've done a lot of, all the church,

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00:44:58.660 --> 00:45:00.060
the usual healing ministry.

751
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.320
is, you know, you just name it, I've done all this, all this

752
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:08.280
template thing. And I've been writing a lot of worship songs,

753
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:14.680
and a lot of my songs are pretty celebrated here in my place. And

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recently, I started writing songs with less Hallelujah, and

755
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Amen, and Jesus, you know, I actually wanted to write songs

756
00:45:23.120 --> 00:45:29.160
which actually demand justice, and hope and, you know, and

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00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:32.400
spirit of encouragement, you know, those are the more like a

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very, what have a lot of biblical principality of

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00:45:39.640 --> 00:45:45.240
principles, biblical principles, less Christian languages, so

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that I can communicate to a large, larger audience. And it's

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been going really good. And I believe that that's my mandate,

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because as a Christian, like I said that, you know, I am the

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church and what as a church, what my mandate, my mandate is

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00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:09.200
bringing the heaven down, you know, that's what Jesus said

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that our Father, you know, hallowed be thy name, and, you

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know, like, you know, the prayer, right, you know, the

767
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:23.600
mandate is as church as his people, to create this place a

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00:46:23.600 --> 00:46:29.960
beautiful heaven, you know, and God is at work, according to

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Joel chapter two, spirit is at work in all flesh. And I see it,

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I encourage everybody to see that thing. Now, when I listen

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00:46:46.720 --> 00:46:51.280
to Coldplay, and when I hear the song Fix You, I was like, wow,

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00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:58.320
what a great song, you know, what a great song. And U2 is one

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00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:03.400
of my favorite band, because I really love Bono. And I believe

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that Bono is a great, great, great, perfect example for a

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Christian musician, because he's like such a great personality,

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00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:21.400
does a lot of things for humanity. And all his

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00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:25.120
philosophy is really great. It's very solid biblical thing, you

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know. And the other day, he was actually I read that Bono was

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saying that, I mean, that he don't like the Christian musicians,

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00:47:37.080 --> 00:47:42.240
because they are so mediocre. And they just, they're not

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00:47:42.240 --> 00:47:45.880
honest, actually. Because when we read Bible, when we read

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David, David was so honest in his songs, you know, and so he

783
00:47:52.200 --> 00:47:55.880
was actually encouraging all the Christian songwriters to be

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00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:02.280
honest about. And I was actually literally went and checked some

785
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:06.920
of his music and all. It's so beautiful. And it's so biblical.

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And only, you know, people, if you look really close, you will

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00:48:13.040 --> 00:48:16.360
see the heart of God, you know, because most of the song is

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00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:26.680
actually engraving. And like I said that, I mean, it took for

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00:48:26.680 --> 00:48:31.520
me, it took a journey, I'm still learning and growing. So right

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00:48:31.520 --> 00:48:36.880
now, at my, in my life, at this point, I'm trying to, I'm

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teaching my mind, my heart, my eyes to see Jesus in everywhere,

792
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you know, and, and I, I'm training my mind to see in a very

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00:48:48.720 --> 00:48:52.720
kingdom perspective, the righteousness, peace and joy in

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the Holy Ghost, and the kingdom is at heart at hand, you know,

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and the Spirit is at work. And, and it's the same flow, you

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00:49:03.600 --> 00:49:10.640
know, it's the same flow, if, because Bible says that every

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00:49:10.640 --> 00:49:14.240
good and perfect things comes from the Father of light, you

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00:49:14.240 --> 00:49:20.240
know, and every, anything good, you know, for your neighbor, for

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00:49:20.240 --> 00:49:25.080
your environment, for this, you know, like, as Diana said, you

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know, if it's actually cultivating a culture of love, I

801
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:35.000
believe that it's from the Lord, you know, it's, it's from the

802
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:40.840
Lord, because we don't have anything good, actually, there

803
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:45.440
is good in us, in humanity, is from our Father, you know,

804
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.680
because he's the good Father, and that goodness is, is

805
00:49:49.680 --> 00:49:54.200
actually flowing everywhere, you know, right now, when we

806
00:49:54.240 --> 00:49:58.800
actually talk about there are people in Ukraine, are

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00:49:58.800 --> 00:49:59.960
struggling with war.

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And I was actually thinking about the big painting,

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the Picasso's world famous painting, Garnica.

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And that painting was actually,

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it's such a profound painting after so many years.

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The painting, it's actually,

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I hope you guys are know about the painting.

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It's a painting of a Spanish village Garnica

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and it's actually, a bomb is actually dropped

816
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in that Garnica and how the,

817
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and it's basically the dark side,

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the reality of war actually.

819
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And that's, Picasso actually painted that picture

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in two weeks.

821
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And the spirit of that painting is, you know,

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saying no to war, no to violence.

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And for me, that's kingdom, you know?

824
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:08.880
Oh, he's not a Christian.

825
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:12.960
He's, doesn't matter, he's a human being.

826
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.280
He bear the image of God, you know?

827
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:20.200
Because every human being actually bearing the image of God.

828
00:51:20.200 --> 00:51:24.600
If I'm failed to see Jesus, God and his spirit,

829
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:31.640
in them, in my neighbor,

830
00:51:31.640 --> 00:51:35.000
it means that I have some problem, you know?

831
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:39.240
And as Diana said that, we all have that kind of,

832
00:51:39.240 --> 00:51:41.880
it's the motivation, you know?

833
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:43.200
How do you do it?

834
00:51:43.200 --> 00:51:46.520
For what purpose you are doing it, this gift?

835
00:51:46.520 --> 00:51:51.080
Are you doing it for bringing justice,

836
00:51:51.080 --> 00:51:53.220
bringing love, bringing peace,

837
00:51:53.220 --> 00:51:57.500
making this world a more beautiful place?

838
00:51:57.500 --> 00:52:00.940
Then if that's your thing and whoever does it,

839
00:52:00.940 --> 00:52:05.940
I believe that it's the Lord working in them, you know?

840
00:52:08.500 --> 00:52:13.500
Because we human being are so selfish, you know?

841
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We are so dangerous.

842
00:52:17.020 --> 00:52:20.780
And if there is anything good in us,

843
00:52:20.780 --> 00:52:22.980
it's from our father.

844
00:52:23.780 --> 00:52:26.780
And I'm learning to appreciate the goodness

845
00:52:28.020 --> 00:52:29.940
and to glorify our father,

846
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all the gifts that actually helping us as humanity

847
00:52:36.660 --> 00:52:41.660
to evolve and make this place a better one.

848
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And I think, I totally believe

849
00:52:46.060 --> 00:52:48.740
that there is no secular or sacred.

850
00:52:48.740 --> 00:52:52.580
It's a Western philosophical,

851
00:52:53.180 --> 00:52:54.780
it's a very dualistic idea.

852
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And Bible is, in my understanding,

853
00:53:00.140 --> 00:53:05.140
Bible is very non-dualistic place

854
00:53:05.420 --> 00:53:06.780
because at the end of the day,

855
00:53:06.780 --> 00:53:09.140
we actually believe in Trinity, you know?

856
00:53:09.140 --> 00:53:11.380
It's not two, it's three actually.

857
00:53:11.380 --> 00:53:16.380
So, and it's hard for us,

858
00:53:16.620 --> 00:53:19.420
the protestant to understand the concept,

859
00:53:19.460 --> 00:53:22.340
but that's how the ancient Christian faith

860
00:53:22.340 --> 00:53:23.900
actually based in, you know?

861
00:53:23.900 --> 00:53:28.220
All the church fathers are believed in this Trinity,

862
00:53:28.220 --> 00:53:32.940
this non-dualistic idea of seeing the world.

863
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And, you know, it's more like a very inclusive worldview.

864
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And when we see things from that perspective,

865
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we try to appreciate God and try to see,

866
00:53:45.700 --> 00:53:48.780
push ourselves to see God in everywhere,

867
00:53:49.060 --> 00:53:52.300
all around, you know, from the nature,

868
00:53:52.300 --> 00:53:53.540
from other human beings,

869
00:53:53.540 --> 00:53:55.340
from all the people who are working

870
00:53:55.340 --> 00:54:00.340
to bring this place a better world.

871
00:54:00.540 --> 00:54:05.100
And yeah, that's where,

872
00:54:08.420 --> 00:54:11.700
I think that's where I'm at at this point in my life.

873
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And I thought, I know that, I mean,

874
00:54:15.540 --> 00:54:17.780
you guys have different idea about it,

875
00:54:17.780 --> 00:54:21.420
but I would like to hear more.

876
00:54:21.420 --> 00:54:23.580
And yeah.

877
00:54:23.580 --> 00:54:26.260
So good, I love that.

878
00:54:26.260 --> 00:54:27.700
I just love what you're sharing.

879
00:54:27.700 --> 00:54:29.860
And there's so many things that were like sparking

880
00:54:29.860 --> 00:54:33.700
that I just want to like agree and celebrate

881
00:54:33.700 --> 00:54:35.540
and just also like add to the conversation

882
00:54:35.540 --> 00:54:37.380
before we kind of open it up.

883
00:54:37.380 --> 00:54:38.780
I think what you're saying too,

884
00:54:38.780 --> 00:54:43.780
if just the reality too of our relationship with the Lord,

885
00:54:44.300 --> 00:54:45.620
relationship with the Lord,

886
00:54:45.620 --> 00:54:47.980
it's so important that we just continue

887
00:54:47.980 --> 00:54:49.620
to grow in our own revelation

888
00:54:49.620 --> 00:54:52.340
and receiving of his nature and character,

889
00:54:52.340 --> 00:54:54.220
because the more we're in scripture,

890
00:54:54.220 --> 00:54:56.380
the more we're actually in the presence,

891
00:54:56.380 --> 00:54:59.100
in worship, in that divine dance

892
00:54:59.100 --> 00:55:00.700
between the father and the son.

893
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.440
son and the Holy Spirit, the more we're being transformed.

894
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:05.680
We actually see the world the way he sees it.

895
00:55:05.720 --> 00:55:08.400
Man looks at the outward appearance, but God looks at the heart.

896
00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:12.720
And when we think about, well, what does it really look like to bring heaven down?

897
00:55:12.720 --> 00:55:15.440
What does it really look like to release the heaven on the earth?

898
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:18.000
Well, it's actually, we want to look at Jesus.

899
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:20.200
Like when we're like, what is God like?

900
00:55:20.200 --> 00:55:21.160
What does God think?

901
00:55:21.160 --> 00:55:22.400
How does God relate?

902
00:55:22.720 --> 00:55:26.680
When we look at Jesus and how he interacted with humanity, that's how we want.

903
00:55:26.680 --> 00:55:29.040
And we see outrageous compassion.

904
00:55:29.040 --> 00:55:30.360
We see mercy.

905
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:32.120
We see kindness.

906
00:55:32.120 --> 00:55:36.040
We see Jesus going to the places that no religious leader would go.

907
00:55:36.040 --> 00:55:40.680
And then he's being accused of, oh, you're eating and drinking with the

908
00:55:40.680 --> 00:55:41.960
sinners and you're sitting with this.

909
00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:44.840
And you're going to the places you're interacting with women.

910
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:47.280
You're interacting with this group of people.

911
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:48.520
No Jews.

912
00:55:48.520 --> 00:55:50.160
We don't interact with this kind of people.

913
00:55:50.160 --> 00:55:50.920
We don't do this.

914
00:55:51.120 --> 00:55:56.760
He crossed all of these lines and divides showing us that love goes to every place.

915
00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:59.800
Love has no limits in where it will go.

916
00:56:00.120 --> 00:56:03.360
That love is passionate about humanity.

917
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:07.480
God, the father is passionate about revealing his heart to people.

918
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:12.360
And so when we see that in the sacred and secular divide, we want to take off the

919
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:16.320
lenses that would have accusation or condemnation.

920
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:19.640
There is no accusation in the father's eyes.

921
00:56:19.640 --> 00:56:21.640
There's no condemnation in Christ.

922
00:56:21.640 --> 00:56:24.400
There's actually love and mercy.

923
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:30.920
We see God, the father, reveal his heart for the prodigals, reveal his heart for

924
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:35.200
humanity, that in the midst of our sin, in the midst of our filth, in the midst of

925
00:56:35.200 --> 00:56:38.880
our total dysfunction, all been there, right?

926
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:42.640
We all have different levels of our humanity and where we've experienced pain.

927
00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:48.560
We see the father running to humanity, running to the son who's turned and come

928
00:56:48.560 --> 00:56:53.520
back, clothing him with a robe, putting a ring on his finger, feasting, celebrating.

929
00:56:53.520 --> 00:56:58.400
And so when we think about, okay, what does it look like to bring heaven to earth?

930
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:03.720
And we got to get into the word and we have to discover who is this one that we

931
00:57:03.720 --> 00:57:04.440
belong to.

932
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:10.080
It's not just this institution or religion or tradition and striving and performance

933
00:57:10.080 --> 00:57:13.120
and trying to make our way to God and to be good enough.

934
00:57:13.120 --> 00:57:17.920
It's actually, how do we fall in love with this God and get to know him, his nature

935
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:20.120
and character of how he operates?

936
00:57:20.120 --> 00:57:23.760
What is actually happening in heaven right now for bringing heaven to earth?

937
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:25.200
What goes on in heaven?

938
00:57:25.680 --> 00:57:26.880
How do they operate?

939
00:57:27.200 --> 00:57:30.280
What is the spirit, the atmosphere, the environment?

940
00:57:30.560 --> 00:57:33.560
What is happening that we want to see displayed on earth?

941
00:57:33.560 --> 00:57:37.120
And then how do we ourselves get healed, restored?

942
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:38.720
How do we see redemption?

943
00:57:38.720 --> 00:57:40.600
How do we have our testimony?

944
00:57:40.600 --> 00:57:41.000
Really?

945
00:57:41.640 --> 00:57:47.720
Any aspect of ministry and what is ministry, any aspect of the overflow of

946
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:53.000
abundant life in our heart where we've experienced God come into our story comes

947
00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:54.320
out of our testimony, right?

948
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:56.560
It comes out of what have we gone through?

949
00:57:56.600 --> 00:58:02.240
What did God show up in our life to bring healing and restoration and love and

950
00:58:02.240 --> 00:58:06.520
transformation and where he's, he brought light to our darkness, where he's, he

951
00:58:06.520 --> 00:58:08.480
brought clarity of mind.

952
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:13.720
And so then that says, well, yeah, everything that we want to produce and

953
00:58:13.720 --> 00:58:17.680
create, we want it to have the nature and character of God.

954
00:58:17.680 --> 00:58:19.880
We want it to carry the spirit of love.

955
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.400
We want it to have the fruits of the spirit.

956
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:26.240
We want it to carry the nature of the one that we love, the one that we've

957
00:58:26.240 --> 00:58:29.760
encountered the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

958
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:35.040
So the testimony of what he's done in our life becomes a prophetic declaration to,

959
00:58:35.040 --> 00:58:37.080
if he's done it for me, he can do it for you.

960
00:58:37.520 --> 00:58:44.600
And art has that ability to communicate to people that maybe not have eyes to see

961
00:58:44.600 --> 00:58:48.720
or ears to hear, or maybe have been wounded by the church or maybe, you know,

962
00:58:49.160 --> 00:58:53.920
because of their family situation or whatever art has that ability to communicate.

963
00:58:54.080 --> 00:58:59.520
Um, the other thing I really want to celebrate in so many of you and something

964
00:58:59.520 --> 00:59:05.000
that set me free was, you know, the reality is, is 97% of Christians will never work

965
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:07.560
for a Christian organization or a church.

966
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:13.240
The reality is that when we make that sacred secular divide, and we somehow

967
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:18.160
have a spiritual elite pride mentality, that if you work for a Christian

968
00:59:18.160 --> 00:59:21.800
organization, or if you're a missionary or in ministry, where you work for a

969
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:25.840
church, somehow, somehow that's more spiritual, that's more anointed.

970
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:29.960
And I just want to blow that thing up because it's just nothing

971
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:31.360
could be farther from the truth.

972
00:59:31.680 --> 00:59:35.720
We see in scripture, like even the book of Daniel, me and Zion were talking last

973
00:59:35.720 --> 00:59:40.000
night, the book of Daniel, like King Nebuchadnezzar, like he has these dreams.

974
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:41.480
He doesn't know what to do with them.

975
00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:43.880
He has his magicians and all of his advisors.

976
00:59:44.120 --> 00:59:45.240
He's asking them.

977
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:47.240
What are these dreams mean?

978
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:48.200
They don't know.

979
00:59:48.240 --> 00:59:53.240
Daniel is like, Hey, let me go inquire of the Lord because the Lord, everything

980
00:59:53.240 --> 00:59:55.120
belongs to him, all wisdom dominion.

981
00:59:55.600 --> 00:59:59.560
Oh, I'm going to go and get wisdom from God of what your dreams meant now in that

982
00:59:59.560 --> 01:00:00.080
time.

983
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.640
That was looked as a pagan thing.

984
01:00:02.680 --> 01:00:05.680
So Daniel is doing something that would be looked at as very

985
01:00:05.680 --> 01:00:08.480
secular and pagan dream interpretation.

986
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:10.960
But he says, all revelation belongs to the father.

987
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:12.480
All revelation belongs to God.

988
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:13.840
I'm going to go and seek.

989
01:00:14.240 --> 01:00:16.320
So he goes and gets wisdom.

990
01:00:16.640 --> 01:00:17.800
He interprets the dream.

991
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:21.600
He's like, Oh my gosh, out with all of these others, advisors,

992
01:00:21.600 --> 01:00:23.160
you're going to be my main man.

993
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:27.120
I'm going to put you in a place of position and authority to

994
01:00:27.120 --> 01:00:29.400
this wicked evil King in the nation.

995
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:32.240
And we would say, Oh, well, that's not God.

996
01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:34.600
You should be in the priesthood, Daniel.

997
01:00:34.600 --> 01:00:37.320
You should be taking all of that gifting and go and.

998
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:39.000
Be amongst your people.

999
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:42.880
And it's like, God strategically put him to serve a wicked King

1000
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:46.240
in a nation to do something quote unquote, very pagan.

1001
01:00:46.600 --> 01:00:51.440
And so we have got to say like God, if there's no representation

1002
01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:56.120
of Christ in every aspect of society, how are we being salt and light?

1003
01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:59.840
How are we bringing transformation and life?

1004
01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:00.920
And we're all gifted.

1005
01:01:01.240 --> 01:01:03.200
We are one body with many parts.

1006
01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:05.320
If you're the fingernail, be the fingernail.

1007
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:08.080
If you're the nostril, if you're the earlobe, if you're the heart,

1008
01:01:08.080 --> 01:01:11.760
if you're the liver, if you're the toe, whatever you are, you

1009
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:14.600
are so needed in this world.

1010
01:01:14.600 --> 01:01:17.920
You are a revelation of the father that nobody else has.

1011
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:23.880
Your, your personality, your gift, your makeup, where you actually were

1012
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:26.680
born, what you look like is all strategic.

1013
01:01:26.680 --> 01:01:30.800
When he knit you together in your mother's room, he was so intentional,

1014
01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:35.960
so strategic of how he formed your intellect and your heart and your soul

1015
01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:40.480
and your body and the dreams that he had for you, the desires that he had,

1016
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:45.120
the things that he created to do with you, not just so that you would just

1017
01:01:45.120 --> 01:01:47.800
be this good worker, this faithful.

1018
01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:52.040
Soldier for Jesus, but that you would be a daughter and a son that would be,

1019
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:54.280
oh my gosh, I was created for this.

1020
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:59.160
And now I'm coming alive and abundant life, resurrection, life, beauty,

1021
01:01:59.160 --> 01:02:00.760
science, wonders, and miracles.

1022
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:03.720
Encouragement is flowing from me.

1023
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:04.120
Why?

1024
01:02:04.120 --> 01:02:07.960
Because I'm receiving from that flow and then giving from that place.

1025
01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:12.720
And then I can go undercover with my gift skills and abilities and be placed

1026
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:17.240
in every place of society, every aspect of culture.

1027
01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:20.760
And there's no thinking like doing this admin.

1028
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:24.880
This mundane task is not as spiritual as me leading worship on a Sunday.

1029
01:02:25.200 --> 01:02:28.880
No, they, they, it's all about how we posture ourself.

1030
01:02:29.120 --> 01:02:30.520
How do I posture myself?

1031
01:02:30.520 --> 01:02:34.120
And I'm at the grocery store can be just as powerful as I encourage

1032
01:02:34.120 --> 01:02:35.560
someone and love on them.

1033
01:02:35.560 --> 01:02:38.800
And I don't even have to prophesy and use all the Christian ease language.

1034
01:02:39.040 --> 01:02:43.000
I could just give a word of celebrating someone who's in the midst of suicidal

1035
01:02:43.120 --> 01:02:47.040
self-hatred thoughts and just say, wow, I love the color of your hair.

1036
01:02:47.080 --> 01:02:47.640
That blue.

1037
01:02:47.640 --> 01:02:48.640
That's so cool.

1038
01:02:49.040 --> 01:02:50.160
You're so beautiful.

1039
01:02:50.160 --> 01:02:51.080
And their eyes light up.

1040
01:02:51.080 --> 01:02:53.520
Like, who are you talking to me like this?

1041
01:02:53.520 --> 01:02:55.920
Like, yeah, girl, I love your style.

1042
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:57.040
What a vibe you are.

1043
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:02.240
Like, I don't have to be like, and Jesus says like, of course that can also come.

1044
01:03:02.600 --> 01:03:06.520
And if I want to share the gospel and share the Lord, but sometimes watering,

1045
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:10.560
sometimes you bringing salt and light, sometimes you bringing a word

1046
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:12.400
or doing something strategic.

1047
01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:16.360
Maybe the Lord gives you a project or says, I'm calling you to go to law school.

1048
01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:17.880
And you're like, I don't want to go to law school.

1049
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:21.120
Or, Hey, I want you to go and work as a waitress for the season.

1050
01:03:21.120 --> 01:03:26.560
You're like, I remember I worked as a waitress, um, As in this fine dining

1051
01:03:26.560 --> 01:03:29.640
restaurant, and I'm like used to doing all of these other things.

1052
01:03:29.640 --> 01:03:32.960
And I thought I've just been demoted like 50 things.

1053
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:36.200
And I thought, no, I'm going to have the mindset that I'm serving these

1054
01:03:36.200 --> 01:03:40.560
people as I'm serving the Lord, the most epic feast, and I'm going to

1055
01:03:40.560 --> 01:03:45.520
cultivate every table that I serve with beauty and hospitality and generosity.

1056
01:03:45.520 --> 01:03:48.880
And I'm going to bring a vibe and I'm going to vacuum the floors as

1057
01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:52.040
if I'm leading worship to thousands of people at a conference.

1058
01:03:52.240 --> 01:03:57.000
And I'm singing to the Lord as I vacuum up dirty food off the floor.

1059
01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:59.440
Like everything is about our mindset.

1060
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:01.320
Everything is about how do we frame it?

1061
01:04:01.560 --> 01:04:03.360
How are we interacting with the Lord?

1062
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:04.880
Everything is spiritual.

1063
01:04:05.240 --> 01:04:09.120
So you are a representation of God in the earth.

1064
01:04:09.120 --> 01:04:10.880
You are a revelation of the father.

1065
01:04:11.080 --> 01:04:14.160
We need representation in every aspect of society.

1066
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:19.160
And I just want to blow that thing up that says somehow one position

1067
01:04:19.160 --> 01:04:21.400
is more important than another.

1068
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:24.560
You have no idea of the strategic place that you are.

1069
01:04:24.680 --> 01:04:26.320
So you might be feeling overwhelmed.

1070
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:27.880
You might be in transition right now.

1071
01:04:28.080 --> 01:04:30.080
You might be like, I don't know where I fit.

1072
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:32.560
I don't know what position I have.

1073
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:35.400
That's where we come back at the end of the day.

1074
01:04:36.240 --> 01:04:40.760
Our relationship is the foundation for our position, all the positions

1075
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:43.680
and the titles and the roles, they shift and change.

1076
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:47.360
Year by year throughout decades of our life, we're going to be involved

1077
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:51.480
in so many things, but if we come back to intimacy and connection

1078
01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:53.440
with the father as a son and a daughter.

1079
01:04:54.240 --> 01:04:55.480
That is the flow.

1080
01:04:55.520 --> 01:04:56.880
That is the confidence.

1081
01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:58.640
That is the authority that we have.

1082
01:04:58.880 --> 01:04:59.800
And God can.

1083
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.280
Elevate us and shift us and move us into different things,

1084
01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:05.960
release favor with God and favor with man,

1085
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:09.400
knowing that we are in alignment with him

1086
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:12.640
and that alignment sets us up for our assignment.

1087
01:05:12.640 --> 01:05:16.360
But all of us have a divine favor with God

1088
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:19.320
and all of us are so uniquely made

1089
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:23.140
and there's nothing that is more important.

1090
01:05:23.140 --> 01:05:26.080
Like the few percent of people that are on a stage

1091
01:05:26.080 --> 01:05:29.440
or on ministry, they're not more spiritual.

1092
01:05:29.520 --> 01:05:31.000
They're not more elite.

1093
01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:32.640
They just have a role and a function

1094
01:05:32.640 --> 01:05:36.440
and the favor of God is on them to equip the saints.

1095
01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:39.160
But we need apostles, prophets, teachers, evangelists,

1096
01:05:39.160 --> 01:05:42.000
pastors in real estate agent.

1097
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.040
We need them in the healthcare system.

1098
01:05:44.040 --> 01:05:46.880
We need them cleaning and doing cleaning supply.

1099
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:48.600
Like we need it as garbage men.

1100
01:05:48.600 --> 01:05:50.000
What if you're a garbage man

1101
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:52.680
and you're like the most outrageous worshiper of God

1102
01:05:52.680 --> 01:05:56.200
and your assignment is every time you pick up garbage,

1103
01:05:56.200 --> 01:05:59.000
you're prophesying over your streets and your neighborhood.

1104
01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:01.380
Honestly, I have met people

1105
01:06:01.380 --> 01:06:04.160
who are just the most outrageous lovers of God

1106
01:06:04.160 --> 01:06:07.600
who know the word, who operate in their spiritual gifting

1107
01:06:07.600 --> 01:06:08.560
and they're doing things

1108
01:06:08.560 --> 01:06:10.820
that you might not have any desire to do,

1109
01:06:10.820 --> 01:06:13.640
but they are alive in their assignment

1110
01:06:13.640 --> 01:06:15.960
because they know who they are.

1111
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:19.400
So wherever you find yourself in this season,

1112
01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:22.400
just know that everything comes out

1113
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:23.600
of that divine relationship,

1114
01:06:23.600 --> 01:06:25.440
that divine dance that we have with him.

1115
01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:30.440
So let's open it up to different ones of you.

1116
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:33.040
If you have any questions, if you have a thought,

1117
01:06:33.040 --> 01:06:36.200
if you have something that you wanna add to the table,

1118
01:06:36.200 --> 01:06:37.200
just take a minute,

1119
01:06:37.200 --> 01:06:39.040
just so that we can have room for everybody

1120
01:06:39.040 --> 01:06:40.220
to kind of communicate.

1121
01:06:40.220 --> 01:06:42.280
So maybe just take a minute or two

1122
01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:44.300
and share your thought or your question

1123
01:06:44.300 --> 01:06:46.520
and Zylan and me will do our best

1124
01:06:46.520 --> 01:06:49.540
to kind of dialogue and talk it through.

1125
01:06:49.540 --> 01:06:53.480
So we just love these moments that we get to hear from you

1126
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:55.680
because all of you have so much wisdom,

1127
01:06:55.680 --> 01:06:59.320
so much gold from your own history, your own journey.

1128
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:02.960
We love hearing from what you've learned.

1129
01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:04.200
We love dialoguing too,

1130
01:07:04.200 --> 01:07:07.440
knowing that agreement isn't always the thing,

1131
01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:09.520
that we can have different thoughts.

1132
01:07:09.520 --> 01:07:11.200
We can be like, oh, I've always thought about this

1133
01:07:11.200 --> 01:07:12.640
or what do we do with this scripture?

1134
01:07:12.640 --> 01:07:15.440
Or what about this aspect of his nature and character?

1135
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.040
And this can be a time where we like wrestle things through.

1136
01:07:18.040 --> 01:07:22.040
By no means are we the end all be all of,

1137
01:07:22.040 --> 01:07:23.880
we're all on a journey of growing in truth,

1138
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:26.720
but this is just kind of where we're at at this point.

1139
01:07:26.720 --> 01:07:31.720
So if any of you have a thought, a question,

1140
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:35.240
you want more clarity, you have an idea,

1141
01:07:35.240 --> 01:07:36.340
we'd love to hear it.

1142
01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:39.960
Laura, Laura.

1143
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:41.520
Yes, Laura Merrill.

1144
01:07:43.640 --> 01:07:44.480
Hello there.

1145
01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:45.300
Hi.

1146
01:07:46.520 --> 01:07:49.360
This is so rich.

1147
01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:51.440
One of the things I find myself doing

1148
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:55.200
is breaking out of the religious concepts

1149
01:07:55.200 --> 01:07:58.980
and the mindsets have been that I've agreed to,

1150
01:07:58.980 --> 01:08:01.940
that I didn't even know that I agreed with,

1151
01:08:01.940 --> 01:08:03.640
that I've carried around.

1152
01:08:03.640 --> 01:08:07.880
And one of the things that has been really big on me

1153
01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:09.960
is God has not given us a spirit of fear

1154
01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:14.760
because fear is trying to capture the entire world,

1155
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:18.560
every nation and every people's fear is,

1156
01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:22.680
but perfect love casts out the fear.

1157
01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:26.800
And this whole thing of being who God created us to be,

1158
01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:31.800
that we are carrying around the very creator within us.

1159
01:08:33.120 --> 01:08:35.620
If we see love in everybody, I mean,

1160
01:08:35.620 --> 01:08:38.819
nobody comes to Christ unless the father draws them.

1161
01:08:38.819 --> 01:08:40.640
So it's not a matter of us going around,

1162
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:43.160
passing out a card or saying, repeat after me,

1163
01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:46.600
and then you can get into heaven free.

1164
01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:47.880
It is a lifestyle.

1165
01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:49.140
It's entering a kingdom

1166
01:08:49.140 --> 01:08:52.120
and becoming a new creation in Christ.

1167
01:08:52.120 --> 01:08:57.120
And so if God is drawing people, he's drawing them by love.

1168
01:08:57.279 --> 01:09:01.200
So our mission really is to see what it is

1169
01:09:01.200 --> 01:09:03.960
in each and every person that is so lovable,

1170
01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:06.840
that is so adorable, that is so precious,

1171
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:10.880
that has value and worth and to draw it out of them

1172
01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:13.040
because so many people are walking around

1173
01:09:13.040 --> 01:09:16.640
and they have no sense of worth or value.

1174
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:20.439
And they are measuring themselves by other people.

1175
01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:22.240
And anytime we measure ourselves

1176
01:09:22.240 --> 01:09:24.520
by anything other than what God says,

1177
01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:26.800
we've just believed the lie.

1178
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:30.439
So our mission really is a mission of love.

1179
01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:33.840
He says that, love the Lord God with all your heart,

1180
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:37.399
with all your might and love your neighbor as yourself.

1181
01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:40.960
We need to get people where they're even loving themselves

1182
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:42.800
because how can they love somebody else

1183
01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:45.120
if they don't love themselves?

1184
01:09:45.120 --> 01:09:48.240
And the key to that is us loving them,

1185
01:09:48.240 --> 01:09:50.640
showing them, being able to embrace them

1186
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:52.420
and love their purple hair,

1187
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:55.400
have those words of encouragement

1188
01:09:55.400 --> 01:09:57.880
to where it just kind of breaks them out

1189
01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:00.240
of whatever they're in and going, who was that?

1190
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:05.200
person and, and planting those seeds or watering, whatever it

1191
01:10:05.200 --> 01:10:08.560
is. And if they want to know what is it about you, that's so

1192
01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:12.000
different. That's an open door to go ahead and discuss. This is

1193
01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:15.960
very rich. Thank you so much for this. Oh, this opportunity.

1194
01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:20.840
That's so good to hear. I love that Laura. I love it. Yes, it's

1195
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:25.640
all about love. It's just it is. Yeah, it is. It's good to

1196
01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:29.880
practice loving every single day. Yeah. And I think you

1197
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:32.920
really know that on the head there is we'll love our neighbor

1198
01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:37.720
as we love ourself. And so we I think in the church have had a

1199
01:10:37.720 --> 01:10:42.440
real wrestle. I think it's being really highlighted in this last

1200
01:10:42.440 --> 01:10:45.840
few years, but self love is looked at as selfish. When

1201
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:50.920
really, if you do not have love in every aspect of your life,

1202
01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:54.960
and you are not speaking love, receiving love, exchanging love,

1203
01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:57.520
if we're not getting rid of that self criticism, and that

1204
01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:01.120
self judgment, and that accusation, that self hatred,

1205
01:11:01.120 --> 01:11:03.960
and all of that, that is actually the lens that you'll

1206
01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:07.760
see other people how you treat yourself, how you exactly how

1207
01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:10.960
you minister to yourself, actually how you minister to

1208
01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:13.800
others. And so it is so important that we go on a

1209
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:17.200
healing journey, it is so important to stand before the

1210
01:11:17.200 --> 01:11:21.840
Father and say, tell me again, who I am. Yes, section, clothe

1211
01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:24.880
me in mercy, because yes, covered in affection and

1212
01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:29.280
clothing. Yes, as I see who you've created me to be, as I

1213
01:11:29.280 --> 01:11:33.320
get all that other stuff off my lens, I'm actually able to have

1214
01:11:33.320 --> 01:11:37.840
a lens of love, and mercy, and passion. And I see the golden

1215
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:42.240
people tripping up over their issues. And I'm not picking up

1216
01:11:42.240 --> 01:11:46.640
a stone ready to stone them. I'm actually arms open wide, ready

1217
01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:50.040
to say, yeah, fine by your sin, who cares about your sin, that's

1218
01:11:50.040 --> 01:11:52.360
not even an issue. It's been paid for, it's been cleansed.

1219
01:11:52.480 --> 01:11:55.720
Let's actually deal with the real you, the real identity,

1220
01:11:55.720 --> 01:11:59.360
let's actually get to that place. Who is it that you are?

1221
01:11:59.440 --> 01:12:03.760
Let's put nurture and love and bring that to life. Let's put

1222
01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:07.040
water to that. Let's put sunshine to that. Yes, let's

1223
01:12:07.040 --> 01:12:09.920
deal with the things that are tripping you up. And where

1224
01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:13.480
there's some maybe attitudes or behavior things. But actually,

1225
01:12:13.480 --> 01:12:17.720
you're not defined by your sin, you're not defined by your pain

1226
01:12:17.720 --> 01:12:20.640
or your trauma, that's not who you really are. Those are things

1227
01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:23.360
that have happened, right? That's not who you are actually

1228
01:12:23.360 --> 01:12:27.680
who you are. Let's have lenses to see who you are. And that's

1229
01:12:27.680 --> 01:12:31.400
one of the biggest nature of the prophetic. It's not just telling

1230
01:12:31.400 --> 01:12:36.600
people what what you'll do, it's actually telling people are,

1231
01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:40.200
it's God give us a prophetic spirit that actually needs

1232
01:12:40.200 --> 01:12:44.400
people for who they are, that gives them a key that unlocks

1233
01:12:44.440 --> 01:12:48.760
their heart to empower them to walk in their identity of who

1234
01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:51.840
they've actually been called to be like, come up here, let's get

1235
01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:55.200
an upgrade. And you're like, Oh, my gosh, and then you get

1236
01:12:55.200 --> 01:12:59.600
empowered by grace. And grace enables you and empowers you to

1237
01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:04.480
live and to interact at a level of love, that we aren't stuck in

1238
01:13:04.480 --> 01:13:08.440
20 years of religious striving, that we're caught in these sin

1239
01:13:08.440 --> 01:13:11.840
cycles where you're just like, No, why are you dealing with the

1240
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:15.440
old man, the old man is dead. It's been creation. And

1241
01:13:15.440 --> 01:13:18.360
actually, now you're just like the most loved being on the

1242
01:13:18.360 --> 01:13:23.840
planet. That's how we are. And so so many, we need to be people

1243
01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:28.280
that are lifting guilt and shame and negativity, and being down

1244
01:13:28.280 --> 01:13:31.400
on their selves, where Jesus just comes to liberate and to

1245
01:13:31.400 --> 01:13:36.960
give. So loving ourselves and receiving love is paramount to

1246
01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:41.440
this journey. Because everything we create, like everything you

1247
01:13:41.440 --> 01:13:44.800
eat, right, when you go to the bathroom, what you eat is what

1248
01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:50.160
you are, right, eat, actually nourishes everything. So what

1249
01:13:50.160 --> 01:13:52.800
we're absorbing, what we're looking at listening to what

1250
01:13:52.800 --> 01:13:57.200
we're digesting actually then affects how we're loving who

1251
01:13:57.360 --> 01:14:00.920
we're loving and how we're eating. So good what you're

1252
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:01.480
saying. I love it.

1253
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:03.360
Thank you.

1254
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:08.840
I bless you. Does anybody else have thought, something you want

1255
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:11.560
to add to the discussion question?

1256
01:14:25.440 --> 01:14:31.000
Kind of like bringing it back to all the different things of

1257
01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:35.480
like, yeah, how is how was your gift expressed through who you

1258
01:14:35.480 --> 01:14:38.920
are? What, what motivates you? What causes you what what

1259
01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:42.000
inspired you to do what you do? Or where are you at in your

1260
01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:44.400
journey of like, what that looks like? Or maybe you have

1261
01:14:44.400 --> 01:14:45.560
questions about?

1262
01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:49.360
Oh, I can.

1263
01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:56.600
I am. Yeah, you really spoke to my heart today. Thank you. I

1264
01:14:56.600 --> 01:14:59.920
appreciate that. I am the Lord

1265
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:07.720
This reminded me of something that was, I was in a, a prayer meeting years ago in,

1266
01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:10.160
in the church, I actually work in a church.

1267
01:15:11.240 --> 01:15:18.720
Um, but I know that for, for years, God's been asking me to get out of the church.

1268
01:15:20.360 --> 01:15:24.840
And he brought that reminder back to me this morning because

1269
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:27.320
I actually had to take a stand.

1270
01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:34.520
Um, I, the church made a policy regarding COVID and, you know, anyway, I just

1271
01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:38.960
didn't feel I could step into the policies that they were stuff they were,

1272
01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:44.440
um, in incorporating or whatever.

1273
01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:50.160
Anyway, so I was let go for a couple of months and then just

1274
01:15:50.400 --> 01:15:53.320
last week I was reinstated again.

1275
01:15:54.320 --> 01:16:04.040
And I had created a whole nother life with coaching and, and, and, and I was

1276
01:16:04.040 --> 01:16:10.360
left in a bit of a quandary because, and then I've been questioning God with that.

1277
01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:16.760
And then today he took me back to something he said literally 25 years ago.

1278
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:21.200
And I was sitting in a prayer meeting and we were all just waiting on the Lord.

1279
01:16:22.200 --> 01:16:26.480
And I heard the Lord clearly say to me, get out of the church.

1280
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:32.120
Like it was so loud, so clear that I thought there was a fire.

1281
01:16:32.200 --> 01:16:38.520
I thought there must be a fire and, and then I just settled myself and I realized

1282
01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:44.840
that, no, there wasn't a fire, but the impression I got was that there was a fire.

1283
01:16:44.840 --> 01:16:50.200
The impression I got was that he was asking me to be, he was going

1284
01:16:50.200 --> 01:16:57.640
to put me in the marketplace and I'm very much in the marketplace, but I, I

1285
01:16:57.640 --> 01:17:05.320
still have 20 hours with my foot in the, in the door of this, of the, of the church,

1286
01:17:05.320 --> 01:17:13.200
which is a school, I'm, I'm a tutor and educator and it's, I don't know.

1287
01:17:13.200 --> 01:17:16.160
I'm just, I don't want to be in a quandary.

1288
01:17:16.160 --> 01:17:21.720
I, you know, I don't want to be in a place of fear of not having enough

1289
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:25.480
because he's always been my source.

1290
01:17:25.480 --> 01:17:32.440
He's always been my provider, but it's real, like fear that comes

1291
01:17:32.440 --> 01:17:34.280
against us is just a pipsqueak.

1292
01:17:34.280 --> 01:17:40.600
It's just, it's just something we have to plow through and past.

1293
01:17:41.440 --> 01:17:41.760
Yeah.

1294
01:17:42.480 --> 01:17:48.320
And I'm just being vulnerable and being honest with everybody here that, yeah,

1295
01:17:48.320 --> 01:17:53.160
no weapon fashioned against us shall prosper in the mighty name of Jesus.

1296
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:53.920
Yeah.

1297
01:17:54.200 --> 01:17:57.800
You know, I, I, I have the choice.

1298
01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:04.080
We're in, we're in control of our decisions and choices every day, but we

1299
01:18:04.080 --> 01:18:06.520
want to be guided by the Holy spirit.

1300
01:18:07.320 --> 01:18:09.520
And that's what I've been crying out for.

1301
01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:16.080
God, I don't want to go back to work in the church because I know that I can be

1302
01:18:16.080 --> 01:18:20.760
useful there, but I don't think it's what you're calling me to.

1303
01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:28.880
I think I have so much more potential outside the church anyway.

1304
01:18:30.480 --> 01:18:34.680
I just wanted to thank you for speaking to my heart today.

1305
01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:37.360
Bless you so much.

1306
01:18:37.360 --> 01:18:38.760
It's so good to hear your heart.

1307
01:18:39.400 --> 01:18:44.000
You know, I think any, anytime we've heard the Lord say something to us, sometimes

1308
01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:49.040
it can be a journey of instant obedience, or it's like a process when he knows

1309
01:18:49.040 --> 01:18:52.880
what it will cost us, or he knows what the journey of getting out of the boat

1310
01:18:52.880 --> 01:18:57.560
and walking on the water, like he knows he's so kind and compassionate to our

1311
01:18:57.560 --> 01:18:57.920
journey.

1312
01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:05.560
And I think, um, I think there sometimes can be a dialogue where he's so gracious

1313
01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:09.280
and going, okay, father, is there a timing attached to this?

1314
01:19:09.400 --> 01:19:14.760
Are you, are you saying like right now do this, or is there a timing attached

1315
01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:18.400
to this of like, what are you opening up for me otherwise?

1316
01:19:18.400 --> 01:19:21.800
Or like, if you have real needs of finances, he knows that.

1317
01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:27.520
And so you can say, okay, Lord, if, if I were to no longer do this, is there

1318
01:19:28.160 --> 01:19:30.120
something else that you're speaking to me?

1319
01:19:30.120 --> 01:19:31.920
Is there something else you're inviting me into?

1320
01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:33.240
Is there another focus?

1321
01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:37.120
Are you wanting me to direct my time and attention to something else?

1322
01:19:37.360 --> 01:19:39.400
Because working for a church is amazing.

1323
01:19:39.400 --> 01:19:42.360
I mean, for the last 20 years, I've worked for churches and missions

1324
01:19:42.400 --> 01:19:43.840
and ministry and organization.

1325
01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:49.400
I am all for working for the church and missions in, in debunking

1326
01:19:49.400 --> 01:19:51.280
the sacred and secular methods.

1327
01:19:51.280 --> 01:19:54.920
Just saying that that's not more spiritual than me working as a waitress

1328
01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:59.960
or me working, cleaning houses, or me being in politics or me being.

1329
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:03.280
in the healthcare system, like everything is spiritual.

1330
01:20:03.280 --> 01:20:06.740
So the issue is just divine alignment for our assignment

1331
01:20:06.740 --> 01:20:09.640
and our assignment can change in different seasons.

1332
01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:13.280
And it really comes back to the relational obedience

1333
01:20:13.280 --> 01:20:17.080
of if God is saying, hey, this is done for a season,

1334
01:20:17.080 --> 01:20:18.120
I want you to obey me.

1335
01:20:18.120 --> 01:20:19.880
Sometimes we just have to obey

1336
01:20:19.880 --> 01:20:22.080
and we actually don't know what we're saying yes to.

1337
01:20:22.080 --> 01:20:24.960
It's a blank contract where we just say, God,

1338
01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:26.840
whatever it is, I just say yes.

1339
01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:29.560
Other times he's like, hey, I'm speaking to you.

1340
01:20:29.560 --> 01:20:30.680
I'm giving you a download

1341
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:32.600
or I'm awaking this dream and desire.

1342
01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:35.040
It's time for you to wake up to this

1343
01:20:35.040 --> 01:20:37.960
or it's time for you to pursue this or trust me.

1344
01:20:37.960 --> 01:20:42.400
And so that's where I just think dialogue and relationship

1345
01:20:42.400 --> 01:20:45.720
and communicating with the Lord is so important

1346
01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:48.680
because we actually wanna walk in wisdom

1347
01:20:48.680 --> 01:20:51.160
and there's wisdom to knowing.

1348
01:20:51.160 --> 01:20:53.600
Maybe there is something else that you need to look at

1349
01:20:53.600 --> 01:20:56.760
for a job or for finances or for what he's inviting you

1350
01:20:56.760 --> 01:20:59.640
into so it's not just this, okay, I did that.

1351
01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:00.480
Okay, crap.

1352
01:21:00.480 --> 01:21:02.360
Now I have no idea what I'm doing.

1353
01:21:02.360 --> 01:21:06.120
So I think there's a lot of room for that as well,

1354
01:21:06.120 --> 01:21:09.560
just to encourage your heart of he's so gracious

1355
01:21:09.560 --> 01:21:13.000
and things that maybe he's spoken to us in times past.

1356
01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:14.560
We don't have to feel guilt and shame.

1357
01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:15.400
We can repent.

1358
01:21:15.400 --> 01:21:18.200
We can say, oh, father, you know, I've been on this journey.

1359
01:21:18.200 --> 01:21:19.720
Are you reminding me of that now?

1360
01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:21.680
Is that a timely word for now?

1361
01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:24.600
Are you requiring me obedience for that now?

1362
01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:26.920
Or is there a time or is there something else

1363
01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:28.040
that you're calling me to

1364
01:21:28.040 --> 01:21:30.040
that I'm gonna give time and attention to?

1365
01:21:30.040 --> 01:21:33.600
So just to encourage you in that.

1366
01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:34.920
But I love your tenderness.

1367
01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:36.520
I love your vulnerability.

1368
01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:37.680
I love your openness.

1369
01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:40.960
It's so clear how much you love God

1370
01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:42.760
and how much you wanna be in step

1371
01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:46.440
and you want to be, yeah, following him

1372
01:21:46.440 --> 01:21:47.360
and partnering with him.

1373
01:21:47.360 --> 01:21:48.800
And that's the thing.

1374
01:21:48.800 --> 01:21:50.560
Everything is in our life.

1375
01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:54.000
We just wanna be saying yes to the adventure

1376
01:21:54.040 --> 01:21:55.440
that he has us on.

1377
01:21:55.440 --> 01:21:57.880
And knowing that anything that we let go of,

1378
01:21:57.880 --> 01:21:59.760
it's always because he has something more.

1379
01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:01.320
God is the God of upgrade.

1380
01:22:01.320 --> 01:22:03.040
God is the God of increase.

1381
01:22:03.040 --> 01:22:04.160
He's the God of abundance.

1382
01:22:04.160 --> 01:22:07.040
So if he's asking us to let go of something,

1383
01:22:07.040 --> 01:22:09.360
we're like, I don't know if you've ever seen that picture.

1384
01:22:09.360 --> 01:22:10.680
It's a little girl

1385
01:22:10.680 --> 01:22:12.880
and she's got a little teddy bear in front of her

1386
01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:14.680
and Jesus is bent down

1387
01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:17.480
and he has this massive teddy bear behind him.

1388
01:22:17.480 --> 01:22:19.160
But he's got his hand out like this,

1389
01:22:19.160 --> 01:22:21.360
asking the little girl to give the little teddy bear.

1390
01:22:21.360 --> 01:22:22.920
And she's just looking at this teddy bear,

1391
01:22:22.920 --> 01:22:25.080
but like, oh, this is my teddy bear.

1392
01:22:25.080 --> 01:22:28.400
Not even aware of the massive teddy bear behind.

1393
01:22:28.400 --> 01:22:29.800
And that's our God.

1394
01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:33.080
Anything that he asks us to let go of or to surrender,

1395
01:22:33.080 --> 01:22:35.120
it's because he's always got more for us.

1396
01:22:35.120 --> 01:22:37.920
He's always got abundance and upgrade and increase.

1397
01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:41.560
So we can trust him in that, even in the journey.

1398
01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:43.760
Thank you.

1399
01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:48.400
I'm sure you're quite aware of how prophetic you are,

1400
01:22:48.400 --> 01:22:50.080
even through your stories.

1401
01:22:51.280 --> 01:22:52.120
Well, that's incredible.

1402
01:22:52.520 --> 01:22:54.520
You're really aware of that, aren't you?

1403
01:22:55.680 --> 01:22:57.000
Well, I do.

1404
01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:00.120
I mean, I just always ask that the prophetic would flow,

1405
01:23:00.120 --> 01:23:02.320
always asking that his voice would come and flow.

1406
01:23:02.320 --> 01:23:03.160
So-

1407
01:23:03.160 --> 01:23:05.880
Well, just to encourage you and others.

1408
01:23:08.040 --> 01:23:11.200
I think it was, again, a very long time ago,

1409
01:23:11.200 --> 01:23:13.760
maybe 20, 25 years ago,

1410
01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:16.720
that God left a little teddy bear,

1411
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:20.640
a Valentine.

1412
01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:22.000
It was teeny tiny.

1413
01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:26.200
It was like just the tiniest Valentine I've ever seen.

1414
01:23:26.200 --> 01:23:27.760
I was left on the table.

1415
01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:31.960
I was, my friend was getting our coffee for us.

1416
01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:35.880
And I sat down and it was the only thing on the table.

1417
01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:37.680
And I thought, oh.

1418
01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:40.000
And I had been questioning the Lord

1419
01:23:42.280 --> 01:23:45.240
because at that time, I didn't quite understand.

1420
01:23:45.240 --> 01:23:48.520
Every time I said thank you to someone in the church,

1421
01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:50.960
they would go, oh, well, it wasn't me.

1422
01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:52.960
And they just discounted.

1423
01:23:52.960 --> 01:23:55.160
And I said, well, God, what do I do with this?

1424
01:23:55.160 --> 01:23:58.240
Thank you for people.

1425
01:23:59.280 --> 01:24:02.120
Like it just seemed like no one would receive it.

1426
01:24:02.120 --> 01:24:03.320
Yeah.

1427
01:24:03.320 --> 01:24:05.480
And this little teddy bear.

1428
01:24:05.480 --> 01:24:08.080
No, you were talking about a teddy bear, right?

1429
01:24:08.080 --> 01:24:13.080
This little teddy bear was holding a bouquet of flowers

1430
01:24:13.320 --> 01:24:15.440
and each flower was different.

1431
01:24:15.440 --> 01:24:17.640
There was a daisy, a rose.

1432
01:24:17.640 --> 01:24:20.480
There was just every flower.

1433
01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:24.520
It was different, which is unusual for a bouquet, right?

1434
01:24:24.520 --> 01:24:26.200
Usually you have a bouquet.

1435
01:24:26.200 --> 01:24:28.160
Well, I think bouquet of roses

1436
01:24:28.160 --> 01:24:30.720
or a bouquet of daisies or whatever.

1437
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:33.600
But every flower was literally different.

1438
01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:35.640
And the Holy Spirit said to me

1439
01:24:37.760 --> 01:24:41.640
that each of those thank yous is like a bouquet.

1440
01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:45.320
And at the end of the day, you give that to me.

1441
01:24:45.320 --> 01:24:50.320
So again, you just spoke about a teddy bear.

1442
01:24:51.440 --> 01:24:55.200
It's like, sometimes we do, we have to give up.

1443
01:24:55.200 --> 01:24:58.160
I tell people all the time, I'm a coach.

1444
01:24:58.160 --> 01:24:59.920
And here I'm being coached, right?

1445
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:06.400
need coaches too. But you have to, I always tell people, you have to open up your hand

1446
01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:14.400
to let God give you more, right? So we have to release the little teddy bear

1447
01:25:15.280 --> 01:25:21.680
in order to get the big teddy bear. Yeah, that's it. I don't know, I just wanted to share that

1448
01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:28.160
because I wanted to encourage you that you really are hearing God's voice.

1449
01:25:29.200 --> 01:25:34.240
Oh, so encouraging. That blesses my heart so much. And that's the beauty of exchanging with

1450
01:25:34.240 --> 01:25:39.040
one another. We're just, you know, we're just flowing and we're allowing God in and through

1451
01:25:39.040 --> 01:25:42.400
us. And we don't sometimes even realize, sometimes there's things that you just go,

1452
01:25:42.400 --> 01:25:46.480
oh, I know to share that, but I wouldn't have known that story in you. So then you're just like,

1453
01:25:46.480 --> 01:25:52.400
oh, this is the beauty of community and doing life together as we just get to flow and encourage

1454
01:25:52.400 --> 01:25:58.640
and champion each other and just see the outcome. It's encouragement, isn't it? Yeah. And just to

1455
01:25:58.640 --> 01:26:05.840
say all of us in leadership and coaching and any part of influence we need to receive. I have so

1456
01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:10.960
many people that I get mentored by and coached by so that I can continue to receive, so that I can

1457
01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:16.240
continue to grow in my gift of doing that. And so we never are in a place that we're not receiving.

1458
01:26:16.240 --> 01:26:21.840
Actually, the more responsibility and leadership I have, the more I realize I need to receive from

1459
01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:26.560
the Lord and others. None of us are an Island. None of us have it all together. Like I just

1460
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:32.480
realized how much I need to grow in wisdom and input. And, you know, so it's so good that we

1461
01:26:32.480 --> 01:26:39.760
all do that. So bless you. That's awesome. My business is called hardship coaching, but my,

1462
01:26:40.320 --> 01:26:48.160
my heart is shifting today. Come on. Yeah, go for it. Yeah. Cause the more we actually receive

1463
01:26:48.160 --> 01:26:54.080
and transform, the more I get mentored, the greater I'm able to serve people because any

1464
01:26:54.080 --> 01:27:00.000
leadership is just servanthood. Any favor that we're given is simply because we have then more

1465
01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:05.600
favor to give any blessing I receive so that I can be blessed to be a blessing, any life giving

1466
01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:11.040
transformation, I want it to multiply and to touch as many people in my life. So then it gives

1467
01:27:11.040 --> 01:27:16.080
me a greater hunger to go on the journey of transformation and learning and growth myself,

1468
01:27:16.080 --> 01:27:20.400
because then I want it to exponentially serve hundreds and thousands of people.

1469
01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:27.040
But we never want to get off that learning and humbling and living as a student, living as

1470
01:27:27.040 --> 01:27:32.320
someone who constantly is out of our ego. And we're into that place of humility and receiving

1471
01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:37.120
because it's in that place that we will go from glory to glory.

1472
01:27:38.320 --> 01:27:43.200
Wow. Thanks for letting me share. Of course. Bless you, Karen. Hi, Diane.

1473
01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:49.840
Thank you guys. I get so nervous to speak, but I have all these thoughts. I'm just going to

1474
01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:55.920
blurt it all out. But anyway, no, I just wanted to say, you guys are just confirming like I've

1475
01:27:55.920 --> 01:28:00.320
been on this journey since the lockdown, which I think all of us have been on this

1476
01:28:01.200 --> 01:28:06.880
cosmic shift, if you want to call it. Right. And it's untangling from religious doctrines,

1477
01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:13.200
right. The doctrines of men. And it was almost like fearful a little bit because it's like,

1478
01:28:13.200 --> 01:28:18.400
I don't want to get off. But if you're in fear, that's already not God. Right. And so

1479
01:28:19.200 --> 01:28:24.400
I think at the beginning of this two years ago, I had a vision and I was on a flying carpet

1480
01:28:24.400 --> 01:28:30.880
with the Lord. And he's just kicking back, like relaxed. And I'm up on my knees, like going.

1481
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:36.640
And the song, it's a whole new world that's coming. And then I keep hearing people talk

1482
01:28:36.640 --> 01:28:41.680
about that song. And if you look at all the lyrics, it's like a whole different point of

1483
01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:47.920
view. And little did I know what was going to unfold the last two years because he has

1484
01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:54.080
blown apart my religious doctrines. But like, not that we're not nullifying. It's like he didn't

1485
01:28:54.080 --> 01:29:00.000
come to abolish. He came to fulfill. Right. So it's expanding the goodness of God and everything

1486
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:05.920
you're saying, like what, you know, because Lord, like talking about the gospel and how,

1487
01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:11.280
you know, what we've understood about the gospel, it's all good news. There's no

1488
01:29:11.280 --> 01:29:16.480
bad news. But we've had like with the religious mindset, a little bit of both. Right. And

1489
01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:23.360
anyway, oh, there was so much. And now my mind's going blank. But anyway, I just want to say I'm

1490
01:29:23.360 --> 01:29:30.720
so grateful and that we're all stepping into this. Like one of the things I think I was listening to

1491
01:29:30.720 --> 01:29:36.800
scientists and they were talking about the human psyche and how we work and how we were made to

1492
01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:41.360
live from the heart. And I'm listening to them, but they're not. You know, this is outside of

1493
01:29:41.360 --> 01:29:46.720
my church culture. Right. And I'm like, oh, Lord, you know, how is it that everything they were

1494
01:29:46.720 --> 01:29:52.080
saying was just confirming the word. Right. Everything they were saying. And I was like.

1495
01:29:52.080 --> 01:29:59.840
And then I felt the Lord saying, I, I put myself and every human like they've all come.

1496
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:08.240
from me they're all created and made in my image and the gospel is they've it's it's that we have

1497
01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:14.160
in adam we have lost our identity and he's restoring us to our identity which is everything

1498
01:30:14.160 --> 01:30:21.280
you're saying and that that's what coming out of darkness into the light is right it's not

1499
01:30:21.280 --> 01:30:26.480
that there's like for me in the western gospel it's like we were they're separate and they're

1500
01:30:26.480 --> 01:30:33.600
lost but if you've lost something it's because it always belonged to you right so we all belong to

1501
01:30:33.600 --> 01:30:40.160
the lord it's just we have fallen in our mindset and believe we're separate but that's the lie

1502
01:30:40.160 --> 01:30:44.880
and the gospel is actually we're already included it's just a lot of people don't know they're

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01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:49.600
included and that's the gospel is bringing people into the light so it's so beautiful because you

1504
01:30:49.600 --> 01:30:56.400
guys have been saying all that in different words so uh it's just exciting because i have

1505
01:30:57.040 --> 01:31:02.400
people around me that are my my my people my family my christian friends and they they're

1506
01:31:02.400 --> 01:31:09.040
not seeing that yet so it's hard because you know they may think i'm getting off on the wrong

1507
01:31:09.040 --> 01:31:16.080
doctrine but that's what the lord has been showing me very clearly and i keep seeing it um there's a

1508
01:31:16.080 --> 01:31:21.200
bible that i got a translation it's called the um mirror translation i don't know if you guys ever

1509
01:31:21.200 --> 01:31:27.840
heard of francis francis de toit and he went into the original hebrew and greek and i'm it's like

1510
01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:33.440
i'm reading the bible for the first time when he really expands the scripture so anyway just

1511
01:31:33.440 --> 01:31:41.760
throwing that out there but i hope that makes sense oh good yes oh i love it i love it so much

1512
01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:48.640
it's just it's so good to hear your heart and what's coming along wow dan uh thank you so much

1513
01:31:48.640 --> 01:31:55.840
for sharing uh actually i can easily uh like relate it to you whatever you are saying i think

1514
01:31:55.840 --> 01:32:02.560
uh i'm on the same same page with you yes the lord is actually you know it's actually um

1515
01:32:03.440 --> 01:32:10.240
the gospel is actually inclusive you know yes separation is a is a very theology

1516
01:32:10.960 --> 01:32:19.760
you know we really dig deeper in the in our faith in our tradition uh go back to the orthodoxy and

1517
01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:27.040
you know the ancient christian faith separation is is a it's a screwed up western theology thing

1518
01:32:27.920 --> 01:32:33.680
it's a western theology that's right it's it's it's actually it's actually caused more problem

1519
01:32:33.680 --> 01:32:44.480
than any other thing you know and uh yeah gospel is inclusive it's it i mean we are just fortunate

1520
01:32:44.480 --> 01:32:53.440
to to awaken to this truth that uh and they are not actually that's the that's it yeah that's it

1521
01:32:53.520 --> 01:33:02.880
that's it and uh yeah they're also in the plan of the lord and you know yes yes yeah amen yes he

1522
01:33:02.880 --> 01:33:11.040
already reconciled the world to himself they just don't know it you articulated really well

1523
01:33:11.040 --> 01:33:19.280
really well thank you oh good good oh thank you lord yeah it's it's it's a bit mind-blowing for

1524
01:33:19.280 --> 01:33:23.840
all of us as we're transitioning but it's so exciting and i just appreciated you guys

1525
01:33:23.840 --> 01:33:30.640
because everything you were saying i'm like oh lord thank you because you know not you know all

1526
01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:36.160
of our family even our christian family is there because and it's not it's just how we've been

1527
01:33:36.160 --> 01:33:44.800
taught for so many years right so true yeah it's pretty exciting yeah and that's the amazing thing

1528
01:33:44.800 --> 01:33:49.840
is because i know all the things that i've come alive to in my journey i once didn't believe

1529
01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:59.200
myself right right me neither yeah right gives us so much grace like i i i think every year was like

1530
01:33:59.200 --> 01:34:06.880
oh my gosh i am such a pharisee oh my god i have no idea how religious i was and i'm just like to

1531
01:34:06.880 --> 01:34:13.440
my head and even the dana that was pre-covid i'm like like i feel like every three months i'm like

1532
01:34:13.440 --> 01:34:19.120
i have to reintroduce myself hi i'm dana you may have known me my whole life but actually the last

1533
01:34:19.120 --> 01:34:25.040
three months there's been so much growth and transformation yeah i'm i'm not the same person

1534
01:34:25.040 --> 01:34:32.640
that i was in december 2021 like i'm like oh my goodness last summer like and that's the beautiful

1535
01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:36.720
thing when you actually are on the journey of self-awareness and you're on a journey of personal

1536
01:34:36.720 --> 01:34:43.040
growth and you yourself are pursuing and hungry and thirsty for the lord to reveal himself to you

1537
01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:49.040
then the more transformation you go on you have so much more grace for other people and where they're

1538
01:34:49.680 --> 01:34:54.240
because you're like i used to think like you i used to be in that place and actually there's

1539
01:34:54.240 --> 01:34:58.880
people that are far more on the journey than me that i look at that probably look at me and go oh

1540
01:34:58.880 --> 01:35:00.000
yeah honey i used to

1541
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:07.800
And it just gives so much grace and context for how we look at one another, not through

1542
01:35:07.800 --> 01:35:13.440
the lens of accusation or judgment, because again, the Lord doesn't look, there's no anger

1543
01:35:13.440 --> 01:35:14.440
in his eyes.

1544
01:35:14.440 --> 01:35:15.440
There's no accusation.

1545
01:35:15.440 --> 01:35:16.440
There's no disappointment.

1546
01:35:16.440 --> 01:35:17.840
There's no frustration.

1547
01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:21.240
There's no like, oh, wow, I really wish you'd get this Dana.

1548
01:35:21.240 --> 01:35:25.400
I mean, I've been trying to tell you this for 20 years, if you would only, he doesn't

1549
01:35:25.400 --> 01:35:26.400
do that.

1550
01:35:26.400 --> 01:35:32.920
He's constantly this lover that can't wait to awaken my perspective and my heart.

1551
01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:34.300
He's romancing us.

1552
01:35:34.300 --> 01:35:38.080
He's a good father that's setting us up for success.

1553
01:35:38.080 --> 01:35:42.480
He's the father that's doing the Easter egg hunt, putting the Easter eggs out so that

1554
01:35:42.480 --> 01:35:44.000
we can find them.

1555
01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:48.800
Not so that we're doing an endless journey of he's hiding them in places we can't see.

1556
01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:54.400
You know, Proverbs 25 talks about it's the glory of God to conceal a matter, but it's

1557
01:35:55.400 --> 01:36:00.320
to find it out, but God doesn't hide things from us to play games with us.

1558
01:36:00.320 --> 01:36:04.320
He hides things from us so that we fall in love so that we get awakened.

1559
01:36:04.320 --> 01:36:05.820
We get captivated.

1560
01:36:05.820 --> 01:36:11.920
We come alive because it's the joy, like with my nieces and nephew, when I hide something,

1561
01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:14.080
but it's like really easy for them to find.

1562
01:36:14.080 --> 01:36:19.200
But when they find it, they're like, and the joy, and then we hug and we kiss and I twirl

1563
01:36:19.200 --> 01:36:20.200
them around.

1564
01:36:20.200 --> 01:36:22.040
And I'm like, you found it.

1565
01:36:22.040 --> 01:36:23.040
That's what God does.

1566
01:36:23.040 --> 01:36:29.000
He hides things so that we can celebrate together what we found together and then marvel in

1567
01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:30.360
what he's showing us.

1568
01:36:30.360 --> 01:36:36.600
And then he does, you know, he plays hide and seek with us, not to hide himself and

1569
01:36:36.600 --> 01:36:39.600
to, but there's also that thing of the reality of that.

1570
01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:42.400
You don't put your pearls before swine.

1571
01:36:42.400 --> 01:36:47.720
So there's something of intimacy with the father and with Jesus that he longs to say

1572
01:36:47.720 --> 01:36:52.920
things, but all throughout the gospels, he spoke in parables because he's wanting.

1573
01:36:53.320 --> 01:36:55.800
What I have to give is worth more than gold.

1574
01:36:55.800 --> 01:37:00.120
And I actually want to know that the hearer is going to treasure what I'm going to say

1575
01:37:00.120 --> 01:37:01.120
to you.

1576
01:37:01.120 --> 01:37:05.440
So I'm going to speak something into a parable or a riddle or a rhyme or something.

1577
01:37:05.440 --> 01:37:09.200
And if it awakens you and you actually have a heart to steward that, which you've been

1578
01:37:09.200 --> 01:37:12.640
entrusted, you'll lean in, right?

1579
01:37:12.640 --> 01:37:17.520
Like in a romance, when someone comes and whispers something into your ear and it awakens,

1580
01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:18.520
wow, okay.

1581
01:37:18.520 --> 01:37:21.960
Or there's a date or there's something, or there's friendship.

1582
01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:23.480
And you've gone through the thing.

1583
01:37:23.480 --> 01:37:25.160
If someone's just like, okay, cool.

1584
01:37:25.160 --> 01:37:26.160
Thanks.

1585
01:37:26.160 --> 01:37:31.240
You're like, I put so much time and effort into, into that.

1586
01:37:31.240 --> 01:37:36.560
I was planning this for your birthday or my friend or my family member or romance.

1587
01:37:36.560 --> 01:37:40.680
Like when you put so much time and effort and someone handles something as precious

1588
01:37:40.680 --> 01:37:44.960
as common, you're like, okay, you're teaching me something.

1589
01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:49.800
So Jesus knows what he has to give to us is more precious than anything.

1590
01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:52.200
And he's wanting to see, do you handle it?

1591
01:37:52.200 --> 01:37:53.800
Where is this common to you?

1592
01:37:53.800 --> 01:37:58.800
Are you going to steward it now again, he's so gracious and he knows that sometimes our

1593
01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:04.480
senses aren't fully awakened and we're on the journey of having every fiber of our being

1594
01:38:04.480 --> 01:38:11.560
every part of our senses awaken to truly discern what is Holy and precious and all of that.

1595
01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:17.640
And the more that we steward it and treasure it and wow over it, the more he wants to wow

1596
01:38:17.640 --> 01:38:20.200
us, the more he wants to give us.

1597
01:38:20.200 --> 01:38:25.320
And then we become walking testimonies that stir in people.

1598
01:38:25.320 --> 01:38:26.320
Wow.

1599
01:38:26.320 --> 01:38:27.320
I didn't know that was possible.

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01:38:27.320 --> 01:38:29.680
I didn't know you hear the Lord like that.

1601
01:38:29.680 --> 01:38:32.120
I didn't know you could live in that level of freedom.

1602
01:38:32.120 --> 01:38:33.480
I didn't know.

1603
01:38:33.480 --> 01:38:39.680
I didn't even know I was entrenched in religious traditions when actually the seed of love

1604
01:38:39.680 --> 01:38:40.920
gives me all of that.

1605
01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:44.360
I don't have to be on the hamster wheel of religion and tradition.

1606
01:38:44.360 --> 01:38:47.480
I can actually receive all of that just by grace.

1607
01:38:47.480 --> 01:38:48.480
What?

1608
01:38:48.480 --> 01:38:49.480
You know?

1609
01:38:49.480 --> 01:38:54.600
So we're all on that journey of grace and love and then it gives us so much perspective

1610
01:38:54.600 --> 01:38:55.600
with other people.

1611
01:38:55.600 --> 01:38:56.600
Yeah.

1612
01:38:56.600 --> 01:38:57.600
So love it.

1613
01:38:57.600 --> 01:39:00.760
Thanks for sharing, Diane.

1614
01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:01.760
You're welcome.

1615
01:39:01.760 --> 01:39:02.760
Thank you.

1616
01:39:02.760 --> 01:39:07.400
Does anybody else have any final thoughts or questions before we kind of wrap things

1617
01:39:07.400 --> 01:39:08.400
up?

1618
01:39:09.240 --> 01:39:14.880
Any comments, any ideas, any things that's been stirring in you, any revelation, any

1619
01:39:14.880 --> 01:39:17.280
hmm, how does this fit?

1620
01:39:17.280 --> 01:39:19.320
Or, oh, I've been kind of thinking about this.

1621
01:39:19.320 --> 01:39:28.960
Is there anything that, um, yeah, Laura raised her hand.

1622
01:39:28.960 --> 01:39:32.520
She wants to add something.

1623
01:39:32.520 --> 01:39:35.680
Oh, that was there from before.

1624
01:39:35.680 --> 01:39:37.000
Or do you have something to share?

1625
01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:38.000
No, you don't.

1626
01:39:38.600 --> 01:39:39.600
Okay.

1627
01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:40.600
I think, yeah, that was just there from before.

1628
01:39:40.600 --> 01:39:41.600
Karen, have something?

1629
01:39:41.600 --> 01:39:42.600
Yeah.

1630
01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:43.600
Yeah.

1631
01:39:43.600 --> 01:39:44.600
I'm back in again.

1632
01:39:44.600 --> 01:39:56.080
Um, now this has been so powerful, so useful, um, somebody prophesied over a little over

1633
01:39:56.080 --> 01:39:59.680
a year ago, not even a year ago, that I,

1634
01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:07.000
I would write. And so that the Lord's just reminding me of that again today.

1635
01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:13.000
That I have gold nuggets inside that I need, I need to begin to write.

1636
01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:19.000
I think I think it's has something to do with my journaling.

1637
01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:22.000
I just need to make it.

1638
01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:31.000
I try to make it a daily practice but life takes over sometimes and you just don't get your journaling in.

1639
01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:40.000
But that's where the wealth comes out, like it just him and I journaling together.

1640
01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:47.000
So that's what I got from today too is that I need to write. I need to write.

1641
01:40:47.000 --> 01:41:03.000
Yes, do it girl. Right. I will do it. Yeah, and you know what I'm the same and one of the things that I've heard from so many people and it was even just listening to an author and they said, if you feel called to write, you need to put it in the schedule.

1642
01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:16.000
And if you're not writing for 90 minutes a day, you're never going to author a book and I was like, Oh my gosh, and sometimes we might not have 90 minutes but even if you go 30 minutes a day, I'm going to sit down and whatever comes if we don't discipline

1643
01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:25.000
ourselves and if we don't actually put it in the schedule, years and decades will go and I'm guilty of that I've started things but I haven't followed through.

1644
01:41:25.000 --> 01:41:34.000
And I've had the desire and have the intention so I just want to encourage all of us in the midst of our stewarding our gifts and those promptings.

1645
01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:48.000
I know for me, I need to be very strategic and going okay if this is actually a goal a dream if this is actually something you're feeling stirred for Dana How are you going to go to the next level of obedience with with not just saying it and talking

1646
01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:55.000
about it but Dana How are you going to actually put that in your schedule, so that there's actually follow through and you can actually go in the creative process.

1647
01:41:55.000 --> 01:42:10.000
So I just want to encourage you with all of my heart to go okay Lord what does it look like is it five minutes is it 15 minutes is it one hour a week is how do I, how do I go to the next step so that all of that gold that you have that you have no

1648
01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:25.000
idea that that golden that wisdom. How many people it's going to nourish and the transformation and the resurrection life and the keys that you hold that are going to unlock things for people, because then when we go that we're like oh wow I want to steward

1649
01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:44.000
that you've given, because we're called to go forth and multiply we're called to bear fruit, fruit that will remain fruit that will nourish people so I just pray the Spirit of God to anoint you to empower you to give you grace, that there would be time in your

1650
01:42:44.000 --> 01:43:00.000
schedule that it would be a labor of love that it wouldn't feel like this task or this thing that you just are trying to strive to do but it would be this life giving like, okay, I get to create this time and grab a cup of tea and a Vicki and then be like, let's

1651
01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:09.000
get into journal and let's just see what comes out and then let the river flow and then see where it goes from there. So bless that you're in.

1652
01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:13.000
Yeah, you're welcome.

1653
01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:20.000
Marlon Marlon wants to see something. Yes, I am Marlene I'm from New Zealand. Hi.

1654
01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:34.000
Yeah, hi, thank you for having me on here. This is the first time actually in my Christian walk and I've been a Christian 37 years that I've actually been in a discussion similar to what you're sharing.

1655
01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:50.000
My journey is that the Lord has led me on assignment right through my Christian walk, and I had no idea that's what he was doing, but everything he did that was transformational was in redemptive was outside of the church.

1656
01:43:50.000 --> 01:44:04.000
And anyhow, I got to the stage after many years I needed to process the things that I've seen the Lord do, but no, I had no way to share it. So, I actually got a life coaching session.

1657
01:44:04.000 --> 01:44:20.000
And at the end of that session, I started writing that turned into a book and halfway through writing the book, I got the words on assignment. Halfway through journaling, actually, it wasn't ever going to be a book. I never wanted to write a book.

1658
01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:38.000
I got the words on assignment, and I only then realized that, you know, God had been teaching me how to live on assignment with him. And yet it wasn't relating to some of what I was hearing in the church. So, I was living this sort of double life.

1659
01:44:38.000 --> 01:45:00.000
So, with you actually talking about living on assignment today, I still live that way today, and I see the Lord redeem and change and bring value to people in places where he sends me. So, I have written that book now and I'm about to publish it very soon, but it's actually been sitting for five years.

1660
01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:08.320
haven't had the courage to move out with it because it is quite challenging but also difficult for me

1661
01:45:08.320 --> 01:45:14.320
to put myself out there. So and I know that a lot of people who write find exactly the same thing

1662
01:45:14.320 --> 01:45:20.960
that I mean every one of us has got so much gold inside of us and like my sister was sharing just

1663
01:45:20.960 --> 01:45:26.880
your journaling is gold you know just if we took our journaling and printed that we would change

1664
01:45:26.880 --> 01:45:33.040
the world because it's all redemptive you know it's all about taking our mortal flesh and our

1665
01:45:33.040 --> 01:45:38.080
struggles out and seeing the redemption of God bring light and revelation to other people.

1666
01:45:38.880 --> 01:45:44.720
So anyhow and I have joined a Christian writing group it's called Christian Book Academy if anyone

1667
01:45:44.720 --> 01:45:50.240
was interested in just looking for accountability and training and encouragement

1668
01:45:51.120 --> 01:45:57.920
that is there as well I wanted to share that with Karen and you can actually be part of it and not

1669
01:45:57.920 --> 01:46:04.160
be a paying member you can learn a lot just from going into their Facebook group. So thanks for

1670
01:46:04.160 --> 01:46:09.840
having me on here it's so enriching this conversation and I guess I'm just really

1671
01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:16.320
you know imbibing your conversation and the reality and the depth of what you're sharing

1672
01:46:16.320 --> 01:46:23.200
it's so transformational and it's so catalytic and it's so needed because like many of you

1673
01:46:23.760 --> 01:46:29.760
most of my friends wouldn't be in that space where they could even listen to what you're saying

1674
01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:35.920
comfortably and yet deep down our heart resonates with it and knows that but there's so much

1675
01:46:35.920 --> 01:46:41.360
detoxing that the Lord I think is wanting to do and I do agree that I think Covid has

1676
01:46:41.840 --> 01:46:47.920
had a great purpose and that many people have been forced to go deeper with God to say what's

1677
01:46:47.920 --> 01:46:53.280
this all about you know what's my journey all about what's this world all about what's going on

1678
01:46:53.280 --> 01:46:58.720
and then I think in that we can find our redemptive story and I'm hoping and praying and believing

1679
01:46:58.720 --> 01:47:05.600
that people will be finding their redemptive story by coming out of a I guess a religious

1680
01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:14.640
system possibly whatever that we potentially have inside of all of us to some degree and so there's

1681
01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:21.760
this detoxing going on all the time certainly is for me and so yeah very enriching for me to be

1682
01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:27.200
you know to have this conversation and listen to you guys I agree with everything you've said and

1683
01:47:27.200 --> 01:47:33.040
it's wonderful I often listen and sing along to secular songs because they bring me alive

1684
01:47:33.760 --> 01:47:38.480
yeah and I sing them to the Lord and there might be a few words in there that I'll change

1685
01:47:39.120 --> 01:47:44.480
you know because I want it to be more genuine singing to him than to someone who doesn't exist

1686
01:47:45.360 --> 01:47:53.600
so yeah it's a really great revolution that we're entering into right now it's very exciting

1687
01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:58.800
so the Lord's also given me the name of a book and I've started writing one called History Makers

1688
01:47:59.760 --> 01:48:06.240
and really it's all about the fact that we are all history makers and this conversation really

1689
01:48:06.240 --> 01:48:13.680
helps fuel the way that I'm going to express that as well so and I have not been diligent at

1690
01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:20.320
being consistent with it again because I haven't had the community and the context to celebrate

1691
01:48:20.320 --> 01:48:26.240
what God's given me and what he's showing me but that is changing I'm actually finding people

1692
01:48:26.240 --> 01:48:32.480
online who are mentoring me and I do always look for mentoring opportunities both for myself and

1693
01:48:32.480 --> 01:48:40.000
to give to others so you know it's always enriching and you know growth producing when we do that

1694
01:48:40.560 --> 01:48:49.360
and we've never completely made it it's a journey and a process so love it well thank you for

1695
01:48:49.360 --> 01:48:55.600
sharing thank you for sharing and we just do we just pray for increased downloads and wisdom as

1696
01:48:55.600 --> 01:49:03.120
you write this History Makers book that there would just be just even the picture that I get

1697
01:49:03.120 --> 01:49:09.120
of just like the line of the tribe of Judah almost like when he's walking and it's like every footprint

1698
01:49:09.120 --> 01:49:16.080
is actually creating ripple effects and I just see like these it's like this desert ground and

1699
01:49:16.080 --> 01:49:20.720
as like each step it's cracking the ground and these diamonds are coming to the surface

1700
01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:27.120
all of these diamonds and I just pray that as you speak as you write as you record as you journal

1701
01:49:27.120 --> 01:49:32.000
as you get downloads from the father that the fruit that would come of this is that the diamonds

1702
01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:36.320
that are underneath it would be this bursting forth salvation would spring up from the ground

1703
01:49:36.320 --> 01:49:42.160
there would be this transformation of what is hidden what is underneath the surface what is in

1704
01:49:42.160 --> 01:49:47.840
seed form would burst forth with color with blossoming with blooming there would be this

1705
01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:53.760
awakening of the sons and daughters of earth that the creation groans at the awakening of

1706
01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:58.240
sons and daughters that they would truly know who they are they would take their place it's

1707
01:49:58.240 --> 01:49:59.920
a rise and shine for the glory of

1708
01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:05.080
The Lord is upon you and that's on all of us and come and take our place of what it

1709
01:50:05.080 --> 01:50:09.840
looks like to make history might just be, you know, Heidi Baker says it's loving the

1710
01:50:09.840 --> 01:50:11.160
one in front of you.

1711
01:50:11.160 --> 01:50:14.920
It might not be the millions and the thousands actually making history looks different for

1712
01:50:14.920 --> 01:50:18.720
each one of us, but it's strategically saying I was born for greatness.

1713
01:50:18.720 --> 01:50:20.760
I was born to change the world.

1714
01:50:20.760 --> 01:50:25.600
And so whatever that resurrection life, whatever that transformation and that redemption and

1715
01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:30.040
Love looks like bringing heaven to the earth and loving the one in front of me.

1716
01:50:30.040 --> 01:50:31.040
Let it be.

1717
01:50:31.040 --> 01:50:36.720
So we just pray dreams, visions, downloads, clarity to you, Marlene.

1718
01:50:36.720 --> 01:50:37.720
Yeah.

1719
01:50:37.720 --> 01:50:39.480
Thank you so much for saying hi.

1720
01:50:39.480 --> 01:50:40.840
The other thing too is Anya.

1721
01:50:40.840 --> 01:50:45.160
I know that you've said that you're already publishing your book, but Anya before was

1722
01:50:45.160 --> 01:50:50.240
on here and she's in Wellington, New Zealand, and she has a ministry and a whole book publishing

1723
01:50:50.240 --> 01:50:51.240
for Christians.

1724
01:50:51.240 --> 01:50:59.440
So I don't know if you can, if you look in the chat, you can see her name Anya McKee,

1725
01:50:59.440 --> 01:51:01.720
which is torn curtain publishing.

1726
01:51:01.720 --> 01:51:04.120
So she just said hello at the very beginning.

1727
01:51:04.120 --> 01:51:05.640
So she's actually a Kiwi.

1728
01:51:05.640 --> 01:51:10.160
She's in Wellington and she has a whole, she's an editor and a book and her whole ministry

1729
01:51:10.160 --> 01:51:12.240
is to publish Christian authors.

1730
01:51:12.240 --> 01:51:16.920
So maybe you guys could connect as women who are on the same page.

1731
01:51:16.920 --> 01:51:22.320
So if you, if you look just in the chat and go kind of to the 10 34 AM, you'll see Anna

1732
01:51:22.320 --> 01:51:24.920
McKee torn curtain publishing to everyone.

1733
01:51:24.920 --> 01:51:25.920
And she just says, hi.

1734
01:51:25.920 --> 01:51:31.080
So maybe you could look up her name and just say, Hey, I was on the zoom chat with raising

1735
01:51:31.080 --> 01:51:32.080
royalty.

1736
01:51:32.080 --> 01:51:33.760
Maybe we can grab coffee and talk.

1737
01:51:33.760 --> 01:51:36.960
So it could be, it could be a great thing.

1738
01:51:36.960 --> 01:51:39.000
So bless you, Marlene.

1739
01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:46.520
Did you share the name that Marlene said of that Facebook group, Christian?

1740
01:51:46.520 --> 01:51:47.520
I didn't get it.

1741
01:51:47.520 --> 01:51:48.520
Yeah.

1742
01:51:48.520 --> 01:51:49.520
Oh, Marlene.

1743
01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:51.040
If you just unmute yourself for a moment.

1744
01:51:51.040 --> 01:51:52.040
Yeah.

1745
01:51:52.040 --> 01:51:53.040
Christian book academy.

1746
01:51:53.040 --> 01:51:54.040
Okay.

1747
01:51:54.040 --> 01:51:55.040
Thanks.

1748
01:51:55.040 --> 01:52:01.760
They have writing days where you come on together and you put that time aside to write together

1749
01:52:01.760 --> 01:52:08.880
for, you know, so you actually are dedicating to a couple of days to write and a heck of

1750
01:52:08.880 --> 01:52:09.880
a lot of resources.

1751
01:52:09.880 --> 01:52:14.560
And she's just started putting out podcasts as well, which is all free for members.

1752
01:52:14.640 --> 01:52:18.120
So if you're paying me, but you get a lot more of course, but you can go on and look

1753
01:52:18.120 --> 01:52:20.360
at their free Facebook group as well.

1754
01:52:20.360 --> 01:52:22.360
Could I have the name of that woman?

1755
01:52:22.360 --> 01:52:24.360
I couldn't find her in the chat.

1756
01:52:24.360 --> 01:52:25.360
Yep.

1757
01:52:25.360 --> 01:52:30.360
So her name is Anya A-N-Y-A.

1758
01:52:30.360 --> 01:52:31.360
Yes.

1759
01:52:31.360 --> 01:52:36.360
Her last name is McKee, M-C-K-E-E.

1760
01:52:36.360 --> 01:52:37.360
Yes.

1761
01:52:37.360 --> 01:52:40.360
And it's torn curtain publishing.

1762
01:52:40.360 --> 01:52:43.360
That's wonderful.

1763
01:52:44.160 --> 01:52:48.160
I had to do almost all my support overseas.

1764
01:52:48.160 --> 01:52:53.160
So it's wonderful to have someone in New Zealand.

1765
01:52:53.160 --> 01:52:54.160
For sure.

1766
01:52:54.160 --> 01:52:55.160
It'd be really good.

1767
01:52:55.160 --> 01:52:56.160
Okay.

1768
01:52:56.160 --> 01:52:57.160
Thank you so much.

1769
01:52:57.160 --> 01:52:58.160
Okay.

1770
01:52:58.160 --> 01:53:01.160
Well, we might wrap up pretty soon.

1771
01:53:01.160 --> 01:53:06.160
So if there's any last thought or comment you want to quickly share anyone.

1772
01:53:06.160 --> 01:53:10.160
And if not, we might just take some time to pray over you and say goodbye.

1773
01:53:10.160 --> 01:53:13.160
We do this zoom chat once a month.

1774
01:53:13.160 --> 01:53:17.160
Usually kind of at the end of the month, the third or the fourth week of each month.

1775
01:53:17.160 --> 01:53:21.160
And we have a different topic or theme that we talk through dialogue through.

1776
01:53:21.160 --> 01:53:26.160
And if any of you want to look at the previous kingdom chats, creative chats,

1777
01:53:26.160 --> 01:53:29.160
they're all on our kingdom creative Facebook page.

1778
01:53:29.160 --> 01:53:33.160
They're also on our new platform is raising royalty.

1779
01:53:33.160 --> 01:53:36.160
We have a new platform really want to encourage you.

1780
01:53:36.160 --> 01:53:37.160
It's $37.

1781
01:53:37.160 --> 01:53:43.160
You can join for free at a basic level where it's $37 for a one-time lifetime

1782
01:53:43.160 --> 01:53:48.160
access fee to all of Benji Alexander, who is the head of raising royalty,

1783
01:53:48.160 --> 01:53:53.160
our incredible fearless leader, all of his teachings, coachings, mentoring.

1784
01:53:53.160 --> 01:54:00.160
We have a full collection of curated content of worship of latest breaking

1785
01:54:00.160 --> 01:54:04.160
news of everything that you could think of within the world.

1786
01:54:05.160 --> 01:54:09.160
I mean, homeschooling and homesteading and cooking and creativity.

1787
01:54:09.160 --> 01:54:15.160
And I mean, gosh, hunting and fishing and the latest videos and sermons on

1788
01:54:15.160 --> 01:54:21.160
relationships on singleness on raising kids on every topic.

1789
01:54:21.160 --> 01:54:25.160
You can imagine all of these curated YouTube messages and then all of Benji's

1790
01:54:25.160 --> 01:54:26.160
coaching mentoring.

1791
01:54:26.160 --> 01:54:27.160
And then we also have our,

1792
01:54:27.160 --> 01:54:31.160
everything that we do within parenting and kingdom creatives and everything we

1793
01:54:31.160 --> 01:54:34.160
have of raising royalties on that platform as well.

1794
01:54:34.160 --> 01:54:37.160
So within the email that you got of the zoom link,

1795
01:54:37.160 --> 01:54:40.160
you'll see the raising royalty webpage,

1796
01:54:40.160 --> 01:54:43.160
and then you'll also see the raising royalty Facebook kingdom creative.

1797
01:54:43.160 --> 01:54:47.160
So this is our fifth kingdom creative zoom chat and all other four

1798
01:54:47.160 --> 01:54:49.160
recordings are there as well.

1799
01:54:49.160 --> 01:54:53.160
So you can watch those on all of our different topics that we've talked

1800
01:54:53.160 --> 01:54:59.160
about. So does anybody have like a last thought just before we wrap up and

1801
01:54:59.160 --> 01:55:00.160
pray?

1802
01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:09.760
Well, I just want to say thank you so much for all the beautiful people who joined today.

1803
01:55:09.760 --> 01:55:16.280
Being an artist, a creative person is a precious thing.

1804
01:55:16.280 --> 01:55:23.120
It's so rare, like out of so many people, God actually placed this gift, and this is

1805
01:55:23.120 --> 01:55:27.680
not for us, it's for others, it's to share.

1806
01:55:27.680 --> 01:55:37.760
And I believe that we are writers, designers, singers, dancers, musicians, painters, whoever

1807
01:55:37.760 --> 01:55:43.680
you are, and it's so beautiful, it's so precious.

1808
01:55:43.680 --> 01:55:50.920
And like we said, I believe that artists are the cultural architects, we actually teach

1809
01:55:50.920 --> 01:56:01.880
people how to think, because if we can't change the DNA of our thinking, the real change

1810
01:56:01.880 --> 01:56:05.240
never happened in the society.

1811
01:56:05.240 --> 01:56:11.880
And when Jesus is talking about kingdom of God, it's a kingdom of God, God is nothing

1812
01:56:11.880 --> 01:56:19.240
but a counterculture, it's not just merely telling a story, it's basically changing

1813
01:56:19.240 --> 01:56:26.440
the culture, it's bringing different governments and different world all together.

1814
01:56:26.440 --> 01:56:33.720
So and being a creative person with a kingdom heart is so powerful, when we realize that

1815
01:56:33.720 --> 01:56:44.200
kind of responsibility that we have, we actually go beyond our church walls, try to, I mean,

1816
01:56:44.200 --> 01:56:50.040
that's the whole point of this conversation, you know, just debunking the myth that, you

1817
01:56:50.040 --> 01:56:56.600
know, sacred and secular, no, there is nothing, everything is so sacred, Jesus and his spirit

1818
01:56:56.600 --> 01:57:06.920
is at work, you know, we just need to co-create and be on his page, I mean, that's the beautiful

1819
01:57:06.920 --> 01:57:13.320
thing that we want to encourage all of you guys, and I mean, that's the heart behind

1820
01:57:13.320 --> 01:57:14.840
this conversation.

1821
01:57:14.840 --> 01:57:16.840
And yeah, great.

1822
01:57:18.600 --> 01:57:19.240
So good.

1823
01:57:22.360 --> 01:57:23.720
Diane, do you have just something to say?

1824
01:57:24.600 --> 01:57:31.400
No, I was just gonna say thank you and encourage you guys, because you articulated so well,

1825
01:57:31.400 --> 01:57:32.920
the heart of the Father.

1826
01:57:32.920 --> 01:57:39.320
And so I just want to honor that and you guys and just keep being a voice because your message,

1827
01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:40.120
you know what I mean?

1828
01:57:40.120 --> 01:57:46.520
It's like we're resonating and we keep resonating right with each and every person that carries

1829
01:57:46.520 --> 01:57:46.840
that.

1830
01:57:46.840 --> 01:57:48.440
So it's very loud.

1831
01:57:48.440 --> 01:57:49.160
So thank you.

1832
01:57:50.040 --> 01:57:51.960
It's going forth and bearing much fruit.

1833
01:57:53.400 --> 01:57:54.040
I love it.

1834
01:57:54.040 --> 01:57:55.480
Yeah, everything is vibration.

1835
01:57:55.480 --> 01:57:56.680
Everything is frequency.

1836
01:57:56.680 --> 01:57:57.560
Everything is energy.

1837
01:57:57.560 --> 01:58:00.680
When we actually learn that, that that's not new age language.

1838
01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:01.800
That's actually science.

1839
01:58:01.800 --> 01:58:03.080
That's actually who we are.

1840
01:58:03.080 --> 01:58:06.200
Everything is everything is spirit.

1841
01:58:06.200 --> 01:58:11.080
And so what we're agreeing to, what we're motivated, what we're in alignment to, what

1842
01:58:11.080 --> 01:58:17.560
we are flowing with, you can feel that, you know, like walk into a room and you can just

1843
01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:21.880
take a look at someone and you can feel the vibe and people just felt that.

1844
01:58:21.880 --> 01:58:22.600
What did you feel?

1845
01:58:22.600 --> 01:58:25.320
It was energy, agreement, alignment.

1846
01:58:25.320 --> 01:58:27.640
It was what that person is of.

1847
01:58:29.080 --> 01:58:31.800
So, so glad that it's been such an encouragement to you.

1848
01:58:32.760 --> 01:58:33.560
Thank you.

1849
01:58:33.560 --> 01:58:33.880
Okay.

1850
01:58:33.880 --> 01:58:40.600
Well, I'm sorry, just with what you've said about when you were praying earlier and talking

1851
01:58:40.600 --> 01:58:45.960
about resurrection life, I've had several dreams of seeing people resurrected from the

1852
01:58:45.960 --> 01:58:51.720
dead, but I don't think it was so much about the physical resurrection as the spiritual

1853
01:58:51.720 --> 01:58:55.880
resurrection, because we carry that resurrection life.

1854
01:58:55.880 --> 01:59:01.000
I'm thinking of one where I was just walking somewhere from one end of town to the other.

1855
01:59:01.000 --> 01:59:04.520
I sat down on a chair or a beach to rest.

1856
01:59:04.520 --> 01:59:09.960
I turned around and a woman who was being having a funeral, she was dying.

1857
01:59:09.960 --> 01:59:11.000
She came alive.

1858
01:59:11.000 --> 01:59:12.600
She was resurrected.

1859
01:59:12.600 --> 01:59:18.040
And the Lord said, you sat down and rest with my resurrection life inside of you.

1860
01:59:18.040 --> 01:59:20.840
And those around you came alive.

1861
01:59:20.840 --> 01:59:23.240
So I want to encourage you that we all carry that.

1862
01:59:23.240 --> 01:59:29.480
And I've wondered over the years I've processed and I'm just starting to see more and more

1863
01:59:29.480 --> 01:59:33.080
exactly how that resurrection life inside of us works.

1864
01:59:33.080 --> 01:59:33.640
Come on.

1865
01:59:33.640 --> 01:59:36.280
I guess we're all living.

1866
01:59:36.920 --> 01:59:38.360
We're living resurrected.

1867
01:59:38.360 --> 01:59:41.160
Therefore, we're going to see resurrection around us.

1868
01:59:42.040 --> 01:59:43.240
Yeah, totally.

1869
01:59:43.240 --> 01:59:47.960
And yeah, where there's a repentance to there's a resurrection in life.

1870
01:59:47.960 --> 01:59:53.720
Resurrection life and repentance is just turning and thinking, renewing our thought,

1871
01:59:53.720 --> 01:59:59.800
renewing what we're agreeing with in alignment with and repentance has just turned.

1872
02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:05.240
in another way, you know, and so yeah, with resurrection life,

1873
02:00:05.240 --> 02:00:11.320
it's going. What is it that that God loves to resurrect, he loves

1874
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to resurrect everything that I mean, some things die, and they

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stay dead, because he's wanting to bring life to something else

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and other things have to die in order for that thing to come to

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fullness of life in the way that he intended it and ordained it

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to be. So yeah, such good things. Love all of your

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thoughts. Love everything that you guys are sharing. Me and

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silent are just going to pray over you. And then we're going

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to say goodbye. It's been such, such an honor to be with you. So

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incredible to see your faces to hear your voices, your stories,

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what you're involved in. Yeah, we just we love it. This is such

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a joy for us such a highlight of the month, to be able to

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interact with all of you and just be mutually edified and

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encouraged in our journey of what it looks like to, to live

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eternal life, what it looks like to receive from the Father and

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then to, to partner with him and in releasing that to the earth.

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So silent, do you want to just pray and then I'll finish and

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wrap us up.

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Sure. Father, we thank you and praise you for this beautiful

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time. And thank you for your grace and your love. And thank

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you for all the things that we discussed. And Lord, we pray

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that God let this bring forth fruit and 30, 60, 100 folds

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Father God, let it bring life Father God, whatever we

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discussed, Father, we seal it by the name of the Father, Son and

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the Holy Ghost. And Father God help us to to think through it

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and help us to see things in your perspective, Father God,

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and thank you, Lord, for all the beautiful people who joined with

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us today. And we just bless them in the name of Jesus, Lord,

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whatever creative job they are doing right now, Father, I pray

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for divine favor, divine wisdom, and divine perspective come

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upon in their lives, Father God, that their gifts that their life

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be more beautiful and meaningful and let them bring your your

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kingdom, wherever they are, Father God, and we bless each

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other in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost, Father

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God. And again, Lord, we thank you. Thank you for all the good

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things that you're doing in our life. Thank you for our journey.

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Thank you for our experience. Thank you for our gifts. And

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thank you for our friends and family. And thank you for this

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beautiful time again, Father God, and we bless your name. We

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love you in Jesus name we pray. Amen.

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Man, yeah, and Father, we just we just receive your Shalom. I

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just want to encourage you all just to take a few really deep

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breaths.

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Yahweh, we breathe you in.

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We just inhale your love. We inhale your peace and we exhale.

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All stress, all anxiety, all fear, all depression, all worry.

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Yes. We breathe in your love. We breathe in your goodness. We

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breathe in your light, your color, your wonder, your voice,

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your presence. So Father, we receive the fullness of Shalom,

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which is safety and provision and strength, and beauty and

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covering and healing and redemption. It's everything

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within us. It's all within us. It's all within us. It's all

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every good thing, every good and perfect gift that comes from the

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Father of heavenly lights. We just receive today, we receive a

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fresh your grace that empowers us and enables us to be who you

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see when you look at us. God, I thank you that nothing's wrong

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with us. But there's some things that are missing and you're the

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Father that loves to give us what's missing. You love to give

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everything that we need, strength and provision and safety

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and healing and nourishment. So we just receive inspiration, we

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receive your voice and your presence. Father, we just

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receive gifts and surprises. We receive dreams and visitations

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and supernatural encounters. We receive the resources and the

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finances and the divine relationships and the networking.

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and the strategic things that need to happen in order for us to walk in the fullness of what

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you've called us to be. We just, we ask for it and we receive. We receive God, your affection,

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we receive God, your voice, and we just ask that you would come and do exceedingly abundantly more

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than we could think, hope, dream, or imagine. Would you take us far beyond our wildest dreams?

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Would you blow us out of the water with what you're going to do in and through our lives?

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And I just pray for the deep love that we would grow. We would be rooted and anchored and grow

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in love. God, there would be a deep love exchange today. Pray for the kiss of heaven,

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your deepest love to minister to the deepest part of us today,

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that we would receive your creative ways and how you love us.

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Yeah. In Jesus name. Amen. You know, a final thought I want to leave with you today is,

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you know, to hear from God is not being prophetic. Sons and daughters, you know,

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Jesus says in John 10, that my sheep hear my voice. To be a son or a daughter and to hear

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the voice of God does not make you prophetic. What makes you prophetic is what you do with what you

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hear. It's taking the voice of God, taking his downloads, it's taking his wisdom, it's taking

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what he speaks to you and then allowing something redemptive and creative and life-giving to actually

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be exchanged. It's what do we do with what we hear? And so I just want to pray the wisdom and

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discernment, the maturity and the growth and the grace of God to give you everything you need with

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what you're hearing from the father, with what you're receiving from the father, that there

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would be wisdom and grace and discernment. And how then, what do I do with it? How then do I partner

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with you? How do I build with you? What am I strategic to give my time and attention to?

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What am I strategic to give my yes to? Because that is what becomes prophetic. Everyone can hear God

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to a certain degree because we're wired to hear God. We're sons and daughters, you know,

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but it's what we do with what we hear that is all the difference. It's what we

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do with what we've received from God that changes the game. So love you guys so much.

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Bless you. Such an honor to connect with you. It really is like, we just love seeing your faces

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and love the gift of doing life and community with all of you. So hope you have an amazing weekend.

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Look forward to connecting with you again next month. We'll be emailing you and letting you

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know what our theme and topic will be. If you guys have any ideas or things that you're like,

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Hey, I'd love for us to dialogue about this. Please do email. You can email at danaatraisingroyalty.com

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or Xylan is your email xylanatraisingroyalty.com. No, I mean, they can email to you or else. I mean,

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they can come to our Facebook page and we have a kingdom creative guide.

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Yeah. Do you want to share? Yeah, no, that's great. That's perfect. I can actually,

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I was just going to like open it up on my website to share the page just to show people in case

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they haven't seen it just to quickly show, just take me a minute, one minute, one minute.

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Sorry, this is just taking a minute. Of course, when you need it to work.

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So Facebook is not responding. Bless the Lord. Oh, here we go. Sorry. This is taking its sweet

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time probably because I'm doing multiple functions at the same time. Anyways, you can go to Facebook

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and you can go to our raising royalty masterclass page, which is free to join. And just as Xylan

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said, there is a guide page there and yeah, Facebook's not responding. So you can go to

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the guide page and when you go to guides, you can scroll down and there is a kingdom creatives

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guide. And then from there, oh, here we go. Now I can share my page with you. Beautiful people.

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Here we go. Okay. Here we are. So this is our kingdom creative page. So this is our

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raising royalty and you can go to that kingdom creatives. The guide is guide 11 and then

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Xylan posts all different things in that page. It might just take a minute to open this, but

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basically.

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The page name is Raising Royalty Masterclasses, Mentoring.

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Yes.

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I'm sorry.

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It's taking so long.

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Anyways, we can say goodbye.

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But at least now, you know.

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Yeah, this is the Kingdom Creative page.

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Oh, it's not done that.

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Okay.

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So anyways, Raising Royalty Masterclass page, go to the

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Guides, Kingdom Creatives.

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Zylan's got incredible posts there.

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Wisdom, practical things, tools, encouragements, teachings.

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And then if you ever want to say, hey, I have an idea, you

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can write a post there and Zylan will see it and then we

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can go from there.

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So much love to you all.

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Bless you.

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Have an incredible weekend and we look forward to seeing

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you next time.

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Yeah.

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Goodbye, everybody.

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God bless.

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Bye.