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Let's make the call. Go ahead and come on back in. Find your seats. We want to get

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started. A few years ago, a lady applied to do third-year school of ministry with

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me. She had gone on a couple of trips, ministry trips, as a second-year student.

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She applied. I like to say I'm smart because I said yes. This lady could potentially leave

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after a third year because that's what most of our students do. They come and especially

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internationals go. We begged for her to stay. She has now become a huge asset to

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our prophetic community. Her innovation, her invention, her creativity, her strategic mind,

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her heart for our community is so brilliant. She runs all of our prophetic sessions, ministry,

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and her and Jamie. Jamie, wave in the back. She's my boss. She tells me what to do all the time.

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Her and Jamie actually run a whole new portion of our third-year environment in training and

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equipping our students in some pretty incredible stuff. We get the privilege of

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going backstage, behind the scenes of all the stuff that she does. Will you please welcome Kim Koch?

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She's kind of unique. She's German but lived in Australia a long time, holds a German passport

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and an Australian passport. Her goal is to hold also a U.S. passport and have all three at the

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same time. That's a rarity but you are a rarity and we love you. We appreciate you. Have fun.

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Thank you. Thanks everybody. I'm so excited to be here with you and speaking with you.

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It's such a bizarre thing because I mean just two years ago I was sitting exactly where

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you're sitting and I was learning and soaking all of this information in. It's just wild to be

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on this side just teaching you stuff. It feels a little bit like, I don't know what the

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school system is like where you're from or even here in America, but where I'm from in Australia

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we usually had these really big class sizes so they were split between two. If you

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were in the 11th grade it would be like an 11A and 11B. Do you guys have that kind of system?

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No. So oftentimes if there was like a test that was being taken and you had a geography 11A class

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in the morning and 11B in the afternoon, if there was a test that was being taken the 11A

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class would tell the 11B class like all the things that were on the test so last minute studying

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could happen. That's what I feel like is happening. Like I took the test in the morning and I'm

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telling you guys in the afternoon what's going on and so I'm a student just like you and

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this last year for me has been very much, as Ben said, a year of invention and learning. We're very

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much the R&D culture and so I'm excited to just get to tell you the tools and things that I've

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learned and hopefully that will help you in whatever sphere you're coming from. I'm actually

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curious to begin with, did everyone go to the conference this week? Okay awesome. Are there any

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people here that just came for this seminar? Wow that's amazing. Well thank you for coming just for

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this. That just shows how hungry you are to come and just learn a little bit more practical tools.

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I'm also very much a practical learner so in college I remember having a hard time with

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just being spoken to. I was like give me the tools, give me the practical teaching and so

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I lean a little bit more that way and so hopefully you'll get some tools that are helpful for you.

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So I'd love to just give you a little bit of background of who I am because a lot of you

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probably don't have any grid for me but as Ben said I'm a little bit of a mix of German

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and Australian. I always like to say I've got a bit of German spice and Australian nice and

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so you'll see some of that come across. I actually just came back from both Germany

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and Australia. I had the opportunity to go home after two years of not seeing my family so you can

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just imagine the tearful reunion that that was.

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My whole family surprised me at the gate when I came to Australia, and so that was really,

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really sweet.

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I never would have imagined when the pandemic hit that it would be two years that I wouldn't

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see my family.

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I know some of you are probably in the same boat, that you haven't seen relatives in a

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long time.

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And some of you are probably even traveling for the first time from various countries,

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and we love that.

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We love having guests starting to come back.

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When I started in my role, actually, the church had been doing prophetic sessions for a number

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of years.

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Gilles Halbert was in the role before me, and we were having guests come every single

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week from all over the world for a prophetic session, and some of them would travel these

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really far distances just for that, or just for healing rooms.

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I mean, that's also very popular ministry here at Bethel, and I remember being one of

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those people.

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I became so hungry just for a word, or just for an impartation, and so when I stepped

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into this role, all of that was not existing.

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The church had to be closed, and we were doing online streaming, and I had to think of how

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we can still reach these hungry people from all over the world, and so thank God for Zoom.

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Everyone's familiar with Zoom now.

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I started to think about how we could actually reach people globally, and although we were

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doing some of that before, Zoom was just a much better platform for that, so we were

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able to reach the people who aren't able to come here, and that has remained, so now we've

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got people who are coming in person, and we've kept the online element, and that's just so

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great because so many people would love to be here.

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I mean, the fact that you're sitting in a seat here in this room today, there's so many

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people that would kill to be where you are, and so it's been amazing that we really do

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get to reach the nations, and I have such a heart for the nations, having had a little

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bit of a mix of the Australian and the European experience, and so I really have a heart for

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each of you in this room, too, to receive, so yeah, I'm excited for today to just give

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you, as Ben said, just a behind-the-curtain view of what we do, and yeah, I had come here

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as a student, as Ben said.

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I remember actually visiting, as I said, before coming here, and my brother had done all three

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years of school, and I remember arriving here, and I was incredibly sick, sick like I'd never

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I came to America, and suddenly I collapsed as I got off the plane in LA, and it was just

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these really weird symptoms that I got, and I remember just having this narrative in my

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mind of like, okay, well, that sucks, I'm just going to be sick, and that's what this time

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is going to look like, and hopefully I'll feel better by the last few days of my trip,

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and then actually something shifted in me where I was like, oh, maybe there is something

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for me here, and I remember taking this position of like, wow, I think the enemy is trying

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to come against some of the things that I'm receiving here, and a song quickly came to

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Some of you have heard of it probably before, of I went to the enemy's camp, and I took

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back what he stole from me, and I remember being in my sick bed, and I was just listening

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to that song on repeat, like I went to the enemy's camp, and I took back, and within

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the hour, I felt my symptoms change, and I started to feel healthy.

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I remember sending a picture to my family of just me just eating this American burger,

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and they were like, oh, she's better, because I couldn't eat.

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I was like sick out of my mind, and the rest of the time of my visit was like as if it

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was handmade for me.

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I mean, every day, God was speaking through the speakers and through the worship songs.

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I mean, they were singing old school Hillsong songs in the worship sets at Bethel, which

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I knew from Australia very well, and I just had this thing wake up in me of like, this

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is where I belong.

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These are my people, and I was so inspired by the culture.

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I mean, I don't know if you have had the opportunity to visit our school, which you are able to

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do.

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They do allow visitors to come at BSSM, and I remember the students just like coming up

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to me, finding out that I was a visitor, and asked me if they could give me a word.

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I was like, what kind of culture is this, where people are asking me if they can give

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me a word, and something in me just came alive, and I have really incredibly supportive parents

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who, after I came back from my visit, were like, yeah, if you want to go, you should

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go.

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Like, you should go to the school, and that was just such an incredible permission from

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them to get to go, and I know I can make decisions for myself, but they had just such an incredible

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support for this place too.

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And, yeah, something really powerful happened.

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I made this agreement to go.

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I put my yes out there.

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And I wasn't accepted yet in the school.

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I hadn't gone through the interview process, but I put my yes out there.

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And my mom was actually the first one to recognize it, that I had started to operate in the prophetic

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and even in healing in a different way because I was actually saying yes to what was under

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this house.

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And so even for you guys sitting here today and for those of you who attended the conference,

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you have put your yes out there.

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There's something so powerful about that.

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And you'll actually discover even today that there's going to be an upgrade in the prophetic

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and even an upgrade in invention and in bringing what you're learning today and taking it back

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home.

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So don't underestimate the power of your yes.

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Like sitting in this seat today, that's such a powerful statement.

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And so I'm believing even, I'm going to actually read out to you our mission statement here

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at Bethel Prophetic because I actually feel like this is what you're saying yes to.

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So the prophetic ministry of Bethel Church is about igniting purpose, hope, and identity

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through the gift of prophecy.

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We are passionate about teaching, equipping, and activating believers in the gift of prophecy

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and words of knowledge in the local church at Bethel, at BSSM, and to churches around

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the world.

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And so part of what you're saying yes to, I believe there is something on the purpose

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being ignited in you today because that's a passion of ours for you to experience having

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purpose.

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And then I also really believe you're going to have a hope injection today.

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I really feel that there's going to be this thing of, oh, this resonates with my spirit.

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This is language that I've been looking for and this hope is going to be injected in you

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today.

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And one of our other big things is identity, right?

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And so we really feel, too, that as you're sitting here today, that's going to come alive

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to as well in you of who you are in your prophetic gifting and that even that thing of mothers

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and fathers that Ben was speaking about, that you're going to experience this resonating

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thing of like, I'm a mother and I'm a father in the prophetic.

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Whether you are physically a mother or a father yet at this point.

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So yeah, so coming here, it was just, it was so wild.

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I wasn't planning on doing all three years of school and I love telling this story of

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the first time that I saw Ben Armstrong.

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I was so excited to take a prophetic class.

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I took Ben's dream interpretation class, which, I mean, if you have an opportunity to come

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back here next month, there is just such a thing on dreams right now in general.

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And even just having a language is so powerful.

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And I remember sitting in that class and just learning about the different types of dreams

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even.

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I mean, I just thought that they were good dreams and bad dreams, nightmares and God

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But he has just this ability to unpack dreams in a way that I was like, okay, there are

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If I eat a certain food, that might affect the way that I dream.

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Because I remember growing up and I had nightmares all the time.

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Anyone had that kind of background of like having nightmares a ton?

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And I didn't actually expose myself to anything that was horrific or anything that would cause

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me to have nightmares, but they were happening all the time.

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And I do wonder if some of that was an attack from the enemy, but if I had known the certain

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tools even that Ben gave in those classes of like, hey, maybe you're actually sensing

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something that's going on in the spirit.

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And this is how you actually take it to that higher place, that higher perspective, even

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of what Haley was speaking about from moving it to this second heaven place to this third

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heaven place.

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These are the kind of tools that Ben gave in that class.

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And I remember him coming into the class and I was so excited to see who is the prophetic

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director of Bethel Church.

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And he comes in and he's wearing that trench coat that he wore and he's got his glasses

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And I'm like, oh, that's the guy from Devil Wears Prada, that's him.

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I wasn't expecting it because I came from a background where we did have prophetic ministry

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in our church, but they were these big older American dudes that they would fly in and

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they were the sayeth the Lord type of people.

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And Ben was just so approachable and just very real.

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And I remember just being so inspired by Ben and his class.

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And I was sitting in that class and I was always in the same second row, just classic

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German, just like, I'm going to be here, I'm going to be consistent, I'm going to write

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And I remember towards the end of that class, it was about a five or six week class.

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He was like, this second row has been really highlighted to me and my team.

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And we actually felt to encourage you that.

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If you've been thinking about doing more than one year of the school like the Lord is on that this year

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This school was always designed to be a two to three year school

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and at that point in time, I was actually only planning on doing one year and that actually activated me into

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considering doing another year of school and

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Even just gave permission to me. There was a desire in me to do more than one year

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but I thought the the responsible thing would be just to do one year and the logical thing would be to do one year because

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They were saving my position for me

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Ironically bends my boss now, so he not only talked about not

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But I I I think that's such a powerful thing even in the prophetic of this thing of giving permission

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Oftentimes even for our guests that come the moment that they're in tears is actually just because we are

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Validating something that the Lord has already spoken to them. It's not that it's necessarily a new idea

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I actually have that as a deep deep desire in my heart and that's how I felt in that room was like I do

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Actually really want to stay for another year and maybe another year after that and then and then been

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giving that word

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Yeah, the school I think just did this this

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reset in me of of

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in my third year, I I came and I did my third year with Ben and

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I came in just sort of as Ben has was sharing before just with this posture of like

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How can I serve and how can I learn and I didn't list my resume like hey?

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I actually have done prophetic training and I've worked in a church like I didn't present any of that to to Ben and the team

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I just came in and asked how can I serve and I think that's such an

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important posture to take even

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when you come out of this place because you will have a lot of tools and you'll probably have this desire to be like

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I've got all of these tools that we can bring

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That's going to be so important and it develops trust with the places that you're going to so that's such an important thing

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to learn and as you build that trust and as you serve it as you as

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As you honor the culture that you go into promotion actually happens super quick and that happened with Ben

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invited into places and into rooms and and

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that is going to promote me and that is a positive thing and so

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God had been putting Japan on my heart for a year and I had no idea why it was just on my heart

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Prophetic people you'll have that a lot and you'll be like am I supposed to move to Japan now?

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I I ended up seeing on the list of places where Ben was going to be going in that year that he was going to

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Japan and little did I know that the Lord was actually already speaking to Ben about Japan for even seven years

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He was just had Japan or maybe even longer than that

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going to Japan and I got to go on that trip with him and and and the Lord prepared my heart for it and

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realization that we were only there for two weeks and yet God prepared me for a year for that trip and

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Prepared Ben for seven years for this trip. How much does he love?

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Love us that he would impress something on our heart for that long of a period of time for two weeks

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I mean, that's just that's so kind of the Lord and we saw a lot of powerful things happen

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people in Parliament and that type of thing and and that was just just such an incredible honor and and

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I want to speak even a little bit into this idea of your prophetic leaning

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to people in government and

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I remember being in that space with these people in government and just it was there was such an ease to minister to these

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freaked out, which there was a level of that there.

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let's honor the people that are in front of us.

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oh wow, in other contexts, this has been really hard,

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but in this context, it's really easy.

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to our teams to pay attention to where there is

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sort of just an ease to prophesy.

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to that specific group of people.

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we should be able to prophesy over everyone.

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We should have that desire also.

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part of the leveling up of the prophetic

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that's happening right now is actually

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finding your sphere of influence,

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finding your people that you're supposed to prophesy over,

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and even just developing language for that.

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I mean, the way that we prophesy over our guests

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that come here on weekends is very different

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than how I would prophesy to someone in government

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and in business.

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I mean, we wanna get really good

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at figuring out the protocols for them

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and how to minister and speak to them.

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even today in this moment.

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you have full permission to just write those things down.

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I won't be offended.

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Because there's just this invitation

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and something in the air for invention.

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that you would just be given tools for that

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and for the sphere that you're called to.

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So I'm gonna give you a little bit of a week

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in the life of Bethel Prophetic.

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So you get to have a bit of an experience

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and I'll walk you through sort of each day

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and what we do and the purpose behind that.

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of sort of living a little bit in the tension

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of the old and the new and figuring out

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like what things have worked really well in the past

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and what things we're seeing in the future

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and living in that tension.

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because especially as prophetic people,

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because we can see a lot and we can dream a lot.

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there was this, again, invitation in the air

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to re-examine and look at all of our systems

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and operations and visions and structures

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and ask the Lord, what are you still on?

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And what are you upgrading?

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What are you removing?

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to our online people and to our in-person people.

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I feel like God is just doing a general reset

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and he's asking us questions of like,

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what would it look like to partner with me in leveling up?

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And so this year, Jamie and I,

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we decided to bring in something new.

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who have probably greeted you at some point today.

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and we couldn't do what we're doing without them.

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They are just so generous with their time and their energy.

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around the program that we have with them this year.

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to just give you an idea of what that looks like

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if you have volunteers that you're leading,

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that you can see a structure

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that has worked really well for us and we're figuring out

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and hopefully you get ideas from that.

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and we have a strictly no,

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well, strictly no business meeting.

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it's just a really wonderful way to start our week.

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and things that,

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and there's just space for us to process

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some of the things that we have been feeling

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in the last week or what the Lord has been on

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and maybe dreams we've had and all that stuff.

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that's so important to have to have space for.

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that's already a wonderful thing

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because we think we're crazy a lot of the time.

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oh my gosh, I've been having these thoughts

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and I just, is that just me?

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and everyone's like, I've had these thoughts

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and I've had these feelings.

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and something that was brought up in the prophetic conference

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is how do we take those things from the second heaven

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again to the third heaven?

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and we'll just validate each other,

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but what is actually the strategy of bringing that

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to that third heaven perspective?

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that we've been put in.

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this was when I was in my third year,

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we got together and Ben had had this dream about suicide.

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were having similar dreams

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or had similar feelings of suicidal thoughts

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or just there was this theme

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and it was again, this validating thing of like,

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okay, that's not just me, I've been feeling that too.

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that can be very terrifying of like,

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why is this coming up?

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Why am I feeling this?

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was suicide awareness day.

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of a pastor committing suicide.

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we actually shifted into this place of prayer

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and we just covered the people

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who might actually be having these thoughts.

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as prophetic people.

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to intercede ahead of time for what's to come.

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we just wear a badge of honor of like,

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I saw that coming, I knew that that was coming

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instead of actually moving into a place of like,

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yeah, I saw that and I prayed for you in that.

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that avoided that thing happening altogether.

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And so, yeah, there's something super important in that.

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And that's what our Monday meeting looks like.

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It's just unpacking some things.

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if you're thinking about building a prophetic ministry

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or something, just get really good at dialoguing

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some of the things that you're feeling

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and connecting in prayer on that

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and strategizing in that.

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That's a really wonderful place to start.

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And then, yeah, we have our third years

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that commit for about four days in the week to us.

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that we have on Tuesday a time

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where they just come and they work,

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which we call work and invest.

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There are things that we need to have done

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to make our ministry work.

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of administration of operations and making things work.

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Sometimes we're like ready to take the microphone

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and preach or ready to take the microphone and minister,

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but we actually need systems and administration

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to make that thing successful.

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have really tried to instill in the students

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just the value for those things.

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if you're leading teams, put vision behind that.

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God, thank you for letting me do this spreadsheet

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because with this spreadsheet,

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I'm able to get that, for example,

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the guests first name and last name

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and their email address.

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So I can email them information

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and make sure that they feel really set up for success.

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and then see this list of like,

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wow, we have 12 different nations coming this week.

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We can actually flip things like Google Sheets

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and administration to something positive

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if we put good vision behind it.

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If I have an attitude of like,

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yeah, this sucks that we have to do

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this spreadsheet right now,

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it's gonna actually, it's gonna feed through my teams.

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I'm sorry to make you do this spreadsheet right now.

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I'm so sorry.

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and have expectation behind it.

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So that's been a really important thing for us

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on a Tuesday in our work time.

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we've brought in this time of learn and grow.

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So again, as prophetic people,

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and I've noticed that a lot in my team members

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that come and prophesy on a Sunday,

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there's such a willingness in them to give

471
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and to serve and to show up even every week.

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Sorry, I'm gonna have a drink.

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And sometimes the value to actually invest in yourself

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00:29:26.540 --> 00:29:29.700
and to learn and grow is sometimes a little bit shelved

475
00:29:29.700 --> 00:29:31.940
because I think as prophetic people,

476
00:29:31.940 --> 00:29:34.060
again, with the grace that Ben was speaking about,

477
00:29:34.060 --> 00:29:35.020
it's so there.

478
00:29:35.020 --> 00:29:36.860
It's like, it meets you where you're at.

479
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And it's sometimes scary of how like,

480
00:29:38.940 --> 00:29:41.340
I can show up to something not feeling great.

481
00:29:41.340 --> 00:29:44.220
And then there's grace there to minister.

482
00:29:44.220 --> 00:29:45.620
And you say things that you're like,

483
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.040
I don't think even my life aligns with that.

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And so it's been really important for us

485
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:54.240
even as a department to value this time of like,

486
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:56.280
how am I developing myself?

487
00:29:56.280 --> 00:29:58.240
How am I growing myself?

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00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:00.120
And so we will have.

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00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.400
We have various speakers that come for our students from different parts of the church

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00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:11.200
so that they even have a value for heaven and business and the kids department and the

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youth department so that they can see what the prophetic could look like in those various

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00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:23.120
spheres and learn how that could manifest in, again, these different spheres.

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And we've asked the students as well to just pay attention to when you have a certain speaker

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00:30:29.600 --> 00:30:35.080
to come, does a part of you come alive to that, or is a part of you maybe shut down

495
00:30:35.080 --> 00:30:40.720
to again sort of analyze and see, maybe I'm called to the youth ministry, maybe I'm called

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00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:46.540
to heaven and business, you know, and we ask them to constantly take that observatory mode

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00:30:46.540 --> 00:30:50.680
and examine in themselves sort of where do I come alive.

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I remember even in school, I mean, we would have speakers every single day, full time

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00:30:58.320 --> 00:31:02.880
and you're having these incredible speakers come and it's a little bit overwhelming sometimes

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00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:07.680
and I remember having a season where I had a little bit of adrenal fatigue because you're

501
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:14.120
in worship every day, you're having these speakers come, and I remember my pastor saying

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00:31:14.120 --> 00:31:20.600
like, hey, you know, you can disengage if there's someone speaking that you don't resonate

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00:31:20.600 --> 00:31:21.600
with.

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00:31:21.600 --> 00:31:28.280
And I was like, German Kim is like, hmm, I don't know, that feels rude, that feels dishonest,

505
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:34.840
and she just said, well, you know, your spirit will still receive what they're saying, but

506
00:31:34.840 --> 00:31:40.320
maybe in this season you're supposed to just zone in to the area of focus that like even

507
00:31:40.320 --> 00:31:44.680
God's calling you to later, so I'm giving you permission if there's an area where that

508
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:50.120
doesn't resonate with you, you know, you have permission to disengage and actually ask the

509
00:31:50.120 --> 00:31:54.820
Lord, still use that time to have the Lord speak to you, but anyway, it was just this

510
00:31:54.900 --> 00:32:00.540
bizarre permission that I was given, was being given, and we try to give that to our students

511
00:32:00.540 --> 00:32:04.540
as well, like you have permission if this doesn't resonate with you, still, yeah, show

512
00:32:04.540 --> 00:32:10.540
up, be honoring, but pay attention more so to where God's calling you and actually press

513
00:32:10.540 --> 00:32:11.860
in a little bit more there.

514
00:32:11.860 --> 00:32:17.020
If you were inspired by our youth pastor, why don't you spend some time reading books

515
00:32:17.020 --> 00:32:22.860
connected to that and actually leaning in a little bit more into that, and so that's

516
00:32:22.860 --> 00:32:27.020
been really powerful to have this time on a Wednesday, and then Thursday we move into

517
00:32:27.020 --> 00:32:32.900
a time of dream and create is what we call it, and this is a time where the students

518
00:32:32.900 --> 00:32:39.220
just get to think about what God is calling them to in their personal lives and maybe

519
00:32:39.220 --> 00:32:48.460
where God is leading them to outside of this environment, and it's proven to be an interesting

520
00:32:48.460 --> 00:32:55.260
day because I think we, as prophetic people, we are by nature, we are dreamers, we see

521
00:32:55.260 --> 00:33:01.460
a lot in the future, and I think sometimes we struggle with taking those actionable steps

522
00:33:01.460 --> 00:33:06.180
to get there, and we get a little bit impatient with the, like, I just want to arrive to this

523
00:33:06.180 --> 00:33:10.100
place in the future, and I'm in this place right now where that's not seeming possible.

524
00:33:10.100 --> 00:33:14.620
I actually love the way that Haley talked about that gap, because I think we resonate

525
00:33:14.620 --> 00:33:19.380
with that so much, sometimes being in that cave season or being in a storm season of

526
00:33:19.380 --> 00:33:24.620
I know where I'm called to and I'm in this place, how do I get there, but there is just

527
00:33:24.620 --> 00:33:30.900
such a value in figuring out those actionable steps, so I remember sitting one time, and

528
00:33:30.900 --> 00:33:36.980
I'm going to put Yasmin on the spot, she has these incredible words about orphanages and

529
00:33:36.980 --> 00:33:43.580
about being just like a mother, and I asked her, I was like, you know, does that feel

530
00:33:43.580 --> 00:33:48.340
a little bit overwhelming, just big words like that with where you are right now, and

531
00:33:48.340 --> 00:33:53.820
she admitted it was a bit of a challenge, and I challenged her to collect all of the

532
00:33:53.820 --> 00:34:00.140
prophetic words that she's received that are connected to being a mother of the nations

533
00:34:00.140 --> 00:34:04.460
or orphanages and actually to put those down, because I was like, one day you're going to

534
00:34:04.460 --> 00:34:08.940
be at that place, and you're going to be sharing your testimony, and you're going to be able

535
00:34:08.940 --> 00:34:13.540
to show them proof of, like, I had all of these words that align with that calling,

536
00:34:13.540 --> 00:34:18.380
and that was one actionable step we took to actually take those prophetic words and list

537
00:34:18.380 --> 00:34:23.300
them, and then maybe the next step for her would be, you know, I'm going to read about

538
00:34:23.300 --> 00:34:28.820
every person that has done something similar to me, and there are just ways that we can

539
00:34:28.820 --> 00:34:33.820
actually take those steps in this place and not live in a place of impatience and asking

540
00:34:33.820 --> 00:34:37.739
the Lord, like, for this to happen, because He's put the desire in your heart in the first

541
00:34:37.739 --> 00:34:38.739
place.

542
00:34:38.739 --> 00:34:44.179
Like, He's already fully aware of that desire, and I think He's asking us, you know, how

543
00:34:44.179 --> 00:34:48.820
do we live in this place in present time right now with Him being like the lamp onto our

544
00:34:48.820 --> 00:34:50.139
feet?

545
00:34:50.139 --> 00:34:54.900
What is each step that He's asking me to take to get there?

546
00:34:54.900 --> 00:34:59.980
So dream and create, and actually, speaking

547
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:06.360
of that session yesterday. I was also weeping in the front with that session. So for those

548
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:12.640
of you who weren't there, there was a dedicated time at the conference where we had these

549
00:35:12.640 --> 00:35:17.360
speakers come up and speak about what it's like to be in a cave season or in a storm

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00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:24.160
season or what was the other one? Wilderness season. And for anyone who's been in those

551
00:35:24.160 --> 00:35:28.920
seasons, that really hits and I think that's what was happening to me. I was just weeping

552
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:33.520
because I knew what it was like to live in a season of depression and anxiety and not

553
00:35:33.520 --> 00:35:41.120
have any friends and wonder how I'm going to get to my prophetic destiny. And so I found

554
00:35:41.120 --> 00:35:46.720
that the way that session impacted me was just with this wave of gratitude came over

555
00:35:46.720 --> 00:35:52.500
me. Like, God, I am right now in this moment in time just in the fulfillment of a lot of

556
00:35:52.500 --> 00:35:58.380
dreams that I've had in my heart. And I was just in this aura of the Lord to just be

557
00:35:58.380 --> 00:36:05.340
grateful for where he's brought me. And I think sometimes we live in that tension again

558
00:36:05.340 --> 00:36:10.000
of like, where am I going next? Where are you calling me to next? And he's just asking

559
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.300
you to be grateful in this season. Hey, can we just live in present time right now and

560
00:36:14.300 --> 00:36:18.660
be grateful for this being the fulfillment of a lot of words that you've had in your

561
00:36:18.660 --> 00:36:23.260
life? And I felt that challenge yesterday of like, I'm always running to the next thing,

562
00:36:23.260 --> 00:36:28.540
but he's just asking me to sit in gratefulness and celebrate where he's brought me. Because

563
00:36:28.540 --> 00:36:34.980
I would have literally died to be where I am today just a couple of years ago, you know?

564
00:36:34.980 --> 00:36:39.020
So why did I bring that up?

565
00:36:39.020 --> 00:36:51.580
Yeah, that's right. That's so good. Yeah. So dreaming, you know, I think, again, like

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00:36:51.580 --> 00:36:56.300
we can just take those, just figuring out what God is calling you in this present season

567
00:36:56.300 --> 00:37:01.380
to do in those dreams. And then I'm going to talk to you a little bit about moving to

568
00:37:01.380 --> 00:37:07.620
Sunday, which is a main part of my job, prophetic sessions. We actually also have prophetic

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00:37:07.620 --> 00:37:13.260
sessions on Thursday mornings and our students run that and that's our Zoom portion. And

570
00:37:13.260 --> 00:37:21.780
then Sundays is our in-person part. And so I know Ben touched a little bit on protocols,

571
00:37:21.780 --> 00:37:26.700
but I think I'm going to go a little bit into that just so that you can hear a little bit

572
00:37:26.700 --> 00:37:31.420
of what it looks like practically. When you're a guest coming, you don't maybe necessarily

573
00:37:31.420 --> 00:37:36.860
know that a lot of the things are very strategically set up for your success as a guest and for

574
00:37:36.860 --> 00:37:45.820
the success of the team member. So some of our protocols are theologically based and

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00:37:45.820 --> 00:37:51.980
some of them are very much Bethel DNA. And so, you know, the theology ones that we feel

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00:37:51.980 --> 00:37:57.020
like everyone should follow, but some of the Bethel DNA ones that I'll mention, you know,

577
00:37:57.020 --> 00:38:01.620
think about how that applies to you. Maybe some of them do and maybe some of them don't,

578
00:38:01.620 --> 00:38:06.580
but I'm just going to list them anyway. So here we go.

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00:38:06.580 --> 00:38:17.700
Yeah. So one of our first ones is that every prophetic word needs to come from a heart of

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00:38:17.700 --> 00:38:28.540
love for God and for the person in front of you. You know, I feel like I'm constantly living in

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00:38:28.620 --> 00:38:35.020
that of wanting every part of me to be in full alignment of knowing God's love for me.

582
00:38:37.020 --> 00:38:43.020
My background is very much I'm a little bit of a perfectionist and sometimes I can live in this

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00:38:43.020 --> 00:38:49.340
narrative of God only wants a perfect daughter. And if I don't surrender that part of myself to

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00:38:49.340 --> 00:38:57.100
be in all of God's fullness of love for me, then I can sometimes go to a performance type of

585
00:38:57.100 --> 00:39:04.620
ministry when I prophesy. So that's just an example of something that you want to surrender

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00:39:04.620 --> 00:39:11.980
completely in love to the Lord of just like, okay, what is the opposite of this? No, I actually,

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00:39:11.980 --> 00:39:17.660
God loves me exactly where I am and I don't have to perform. I don't have to be perfect.

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00:39:17.660 --> 00:39:24.380
And I remember God spending a significant amount of time with me, just having me declare certain

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00:39:24.380 --> 00:39:30.540
truths over myself and truths about who He is. I encourage you guys to do declarations if you can.

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00:39:30.540 --> 00:39:35.980
I spent a year where God asked me every morning to declare certain things and until that part

591
00:39:35.980 --> 00:39:40.780
of me just aligned with His truth of what I believed either about myself or I believed about

592
00:39:40.780 --> 00:39:50.140
Him. And we just say that consistently even to our teams because it can be, the ironic thing is we

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00:39:50.140 --> 00:39:54.860
can say certain things to our guests that we might not actually believe about ourselves or

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00:39:54.860 --> 00:39:59.900
we believe about God. And it can be really easy to do that. And...

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00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.180
Listen, you could do that all day long

596
00:40:02.180 --> 00:40:04.380
and maybe no one would ever notice,

597
00:40:04.380 --> 00:40:08.300
but there's serious danger in that

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00:40:08.300 --> 00:40:12.940
because then you become one thing when you're ministering

599
00:40:12.940 --> 00:40:14.180
and behind the curtain,

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00:40:14.180 --> 00:40:16.220
you're not actually believing these truths.

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00:40:16.220 --> 00:40:18.680
And there is something about the Spirit even in that,

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00:40:18.680 --> 00:40:21.220
that even if by God's grace,

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00:40:21.220 --> 00:40:23.640
He actually lets that impact their guests,

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00:40:23.640 --> 00:40:26.000
there are times when they can feel

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00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.140
if that's not fully living out itself

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00:40:28.140 --> 00:40:29.440
and playing itself out in you.

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00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.720
And so I encourage you even,

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we actually do have those declarations

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00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:38.180
that I might actually have the team hand out.

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00:40:38.180 --> 00:40:40.700
These are declarations I put together.

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00:40:40.700 --> 00:40:43.360
Some of them are from Igniting Hope.

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00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:45.860
Some of them are from Joel Osteen.

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And there are times where God has me look over that list

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and just see where I'm at

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00:40:51.160 --> 00:40:53.280
with believing some of those truths.

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And so I encourage you to look at that.

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It's like, yeah,

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00:40:57.160 --> 00:40:59.560
it's like the textbook of,

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00:40:59.560 --> 00:41:01.560
have I studied this well enough in me

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00:41:01.560 --> 00:41:04.160
or have I believed this well enough in me?

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And so I'm gifting you that with you today.

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00:41:07.200 --> 00:41:09.340
There are some personal ones even in there

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00:41:09.340 --> 00:41:12.760
of some ones that God actually encouraged me to write out.

624
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:14.480
And I want to encourage you too,

625
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:16.700
if there are certain declarations

626
00:41:16.700 --> 00:41:18.520
He's asking you to declare in this season

627
00:41:18.520 --> 00:41:20.940
to write those out and speak those out.

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00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:24.600
So yeah, that's one of our first protocols.

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And then another one of our protocols

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00:41:27.520 --> 00:41:30.240
is that all prophetic words that are given

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00:41:30.240 --> 00:41:33.260
have God's redemptive purpose in mind.

632
00:41:33.260 --> 00:41:36.120
So again, just speaking from that second heaven

633
00:41:36.120 --> 00:41:38.400
to third heaven perspective,

634
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.520
we can sometimes be in front of a guest

635
00:41:40.520 --> 00:41:41.960
and you see a lot of junk,

636
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:44.880
you see a lot of bad stuff that's happening,

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00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:45.980
but we don't call that out.

638
00:41:45.980 --> 00:41:47.840
Just as Ben had said with the example

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00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:49.400
of the Bob Jones example.

640
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:51.360
Yeah, this person was, I don't know what was it,

641
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.940
having an affair and doing some bad things,

642
00:41:53.940 --> 00:41:56.620
but they're actually called to these greater things

643
00:41:56.620 --> 00:41:58.120
as a greater calling on their life.

644
00:41:58.120 --> 00:42:00.140
And those are the things that we speak out.

645
00:42:00.140 --> 00:42:02.860
And we believe are actually do something

646
00:42:02.860 --> 00:42:04.400
when we say them and speak those out.

647
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:06.260
They activate something in them.

648
00:42:06.260 --> 00:42:08.580
Again, as like I had mentioned earlier,

649
00:42:10.300 --> 00:42:12.500
oftentimes it is just that permission

650
00:42:12.500 --> 00:42:16.700
of something that does resonate deep inside of them.

651
00:42:16.700 --> 00:42:19.220
I love seeing that when our teams,

652
00:42:19.220 --> 00:42:22.340
our students go out and prophesy and evangelize

653
00:42:23.260 --> 00:42:25.340
in the city and we minister to people

654
00:42:25.340 --> 00:42:26.500
who don't believe in God.

655
00:42:26.500 --> 00:42:28.220
And we say this thing of like,

656
00:42:28.220 --> 00:42:31.060
hey, you're a really good father.

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00:42:31.060 --> 00:42:34.260
And there's just this thing that comes over their face

658
00:42:34.260 --> 00:42:36.740
of like, wow, I've never been told that.

659
00:42:36.740 --> 00:42:38.760
I've only been told that I suck as a dad

660
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:40.940
or I'm not showing up well as a dad,

661
00:42:40.940 --> 00:42:42.980
but that resonates with me.

662
00:42:42.980 --> 00:42:46.740
I actually do feel like I have a heart to be a good father.

663
00:42:46.740 --> 00:42:48.980
And so that's the whole idea of that protocol

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00:42:48.980 --> 00:42:50.980
of God's redemptive purpose in mind

665
00:42:50.980 --> 00:42:52.700
and what he's actually calling them to,

666
00:42:52.700 --> 00:42:56.180
because they know the other side of the narrative

667
00:42:56.180 --> 00:42:58.620
of I might suck and I'm not showing up.

668
00:42:58.620 --> 00:43:01.820
But if we actually tell them what God is calling them to,

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00:43:01.820 --> 00:43:03.740
it can activate something in them

670
00:43:03.740 --> 00:43:06.660
and shift their perspective and align them with truth.

671
00:43:06.660 --> 00:43:09.740
And that's what God is calling us to do.

672
00:43:12.780 --> 00:43:16.500
Okay, one of our Bethel DNA protocols,

673
00:43:16.500 --> 00:43:18.360
which I don't know if you may have heard around here,

674
00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:22.080
but we say this a lot of no dates, mates, and babies.

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00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:26.720
So the reason that we have that as a protocol

676
00:43:26.720 --> 00:43:29.260
is because we don't wanna have anything definitive

677
00:43:29.260 --> 00:43:30.300
that we're saying.

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00:43:31.560 --> 00:43:33.780
God is doing a lot of new things in the prophetic,

679
00:43:33.780 --> 00:43:36.400
but a lot of what happened in the past

680
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:38.960
was that people were giving these definitive words

681
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:40.280
that like locked people in

682
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.680
of you're gonna have a baby in a year.

683
00:43:43.680 --> 00:43:45.240
And there's just a lot of heartache

684
00:43:45.240 --> 00:43:46.360
that can happen with that.

685
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:48.560
When we say those definitive things,

686
00:43:48.560 --> 00:43:51.000
that's not to say that that might not actually happen

687
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:52.920
and we don't have accuracy there,

688
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.480
but we encourage our teams to do it more

689
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:57.760
in a way of asking questions like,

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00:43:57.760 --> 00:43:59.080
hey, I'm seeing a baby.

691
00:43:59.080 --> 00:44:01.960
Is that a desire of your heart to have a baby?

692
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:03.720
And actually just protecting yourself

693
00:44:03.720 --> 00:44:05.840
and protecting the guest in that way,

694
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:07.200
because we could be wrong.

695
00:44:07.200 --> 00:44:09.360
Like we actually have to have that humility

696
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:10.800
that we may be wrong.

697
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:13.800
And maybe that picture of a baby might mean something else.

698
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:18.480
Maybe it means new life.

699
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:20.600
It's not up to us to give the interpretation,

700
00:44:20.600 --> 00:44:22.560
but if we ask questions,

701
00:44:22.560 --> 00:44:24.760
that's actually setting up ourselves

702
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:27.280
and our guests way more for success.

703
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:29.760
And so we do give permission to,

704
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.080
we have a huge take risk culture.

705
00:44:32.080 --> 00:44:35.080
So it's sometimes ironic with this kind of a protocol

706
00:44:35.080 --> 00:44:36.320
because people are like,

707
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:38.640
well, don't you allow people to take risks

708
00:44:38.640 --> 00:44:39.480
in words of knowledge?

709
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:41.000
And absolutely we do.

710
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:44.000
But why don't you do it in a way of asking questions

711
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.240
instead of making it a definitive locked in thing?

712
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:52.760
Yeah.

713
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:54.240
One of the things that I love that we say around here

714
00:44:54.240 --> 00:44:58.360
is God hides things for us and not from us.

715
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:00.080
And sometimes we're seeing things.

716
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.880
God's not asking us to give that full picture because He actually wants that individual

717
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:11.600
to lean into relationship with the Lord and ask more questions and lean in closer to Him.

718
00:45:11.600 --> 00:45:19.600
Yeah, Ben spoke a little bit about this one, I believe, of to prophesy from a strong identity

719
00:45:19.600 --> 00:45:22.920
and not for one.

720
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:32.160
What that means basically is we can sometimes be tempted, even I'll admit myself, I was

721
00:45:32.160 --> 00:45:37.640
yesterday at the end of the conference, we had this time where we just randomly ended

722
00:45:37.640 --> 00:45:42.600
up ministering to this pastor and there were some powerful people giving prophetic words

723
00:45:42.600 --> 00:45:48.120
to this pastor and I found something come up in me of like, I need to show that I also

724
00:45:48.120 --> 00:45:51.200
am prophetic and like should give him a word as well.

725
00:45:51.200 --> 00:45:56.280
And I realized that right away and I realized, okay, I'm prophesying for an identity and

726
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:57.840
not from one.

727
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:03.560
And so we can recognize that really quickly, apologize and then recenter and again, when

728
00:46:03.560 --> 00:46:07.560
I was speaking about vision of like, does this person need to hear this right now?

729
00:46:07.560 --> 00:46:11.840
Okay, if they do, then I'll speak it out, but I won't speak it out to be impressive

730
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:16.320
or to show that I can level up to the same people around me.

731
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:23.400
So we're just asking our teams to do that same thing of like, everyone's called to prophesy,

732
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:27.840
but you don't need to prove something and it shouldn't come from that place.

733
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:33.040
So that's a really key one as well.

734
00:46:33.040 --> 00:46:39.480
And then we also always ask our teams to give short and concise words and to not speak past

735
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:41.520
where Holy Spirit speaks.

736
00:46:41.520 --> 00:46:50.680
So our prophetic words, this is scriptural and we've based it on three things of revelation,

737
00:46:50.680 --> 00:46:52.320
interpretation and application.

738
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:58.400
And so sometimes we, I'm going to give an example.

739
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:05.320
For instance, if I saw the picture of a bird, you know, maybe the Lord is just saying bird

740
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:09.880
and he's not asking me to then come up with the interpretation of God is calling you to

741
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:13.880
new places or I don't know.

742
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:18.520
Sometimes it could just be that this person works with birds and we're not actually asked,

743
00:47:18.520 --> 00:47:21.960
we're not supposed to figure out the interpretation for it.

744
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:27.720
So just be very mindful when you're getting certain images of what is something that you're

745
00:47:27.720 --> 00:47:35.400
interpreting that to be, or what God is actually, where he's asking you to stop.

746
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:40.960
And again, we encourage you to practice, like practice is key and doing it with safe

747
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:41.960
people.

748
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:47.040
I remember spending a time just with my housemates and we would practice and we would evaluate

749
00:47:47.040 --> 00:47:55.080
and go back to like, okay, how far did that word resonate?

750
00:47:55.080 --> 00:48:01.240
And then realizing or figuring out, okay, it stopped resonating after this point and

751
00:48:01.240 --> 00:48:04.760
getting really good feedback of not like, well, it could have meant that for me.

752
00:48:05.120 --> 00:48:06.520
And so I see where you're going with that.

753
00:48:06.520 --> 00:48:11.320
Like actually having people of like, no, after this point, it didn't resonate so that I can

754
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:22.080
actually learn to hear what was me and what was the Lord and figuring out that distinction.

755
00:48:22.080 --> 00:48:26.880
And then we tell our teams as well that our body language is prophesying.

756
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:33.000
And so you'll find that as well when you're, wherever sphere you're called to, it's really

757
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:37.920
important how you position yourself with the person that you're giving a word to.

758
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:38.920
That's really important.

759
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:44.120
And even how you interact with the person that you're partnered up with.

760
00:48:44.120 --> 00:48:49.360
We had a story one time of this billionaire guy, Ben, I heard the story from Ben, so it's

761
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:56.720
not one that I know very well, but I believe he had come and visited Bethel and was receiving

762
00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:01.160
some words from these two individuals.

763
00:49:01.160 --> 00:49:05.160
And the feedback that this billionaire guy gave was, yeah, everything that they said

764
00:49:05.160 --> 00:49:10.520
resonated and was right on, but I couldn't receive it because of how these two individuals

765
00:49:10.520 --> 00:49:12.600
were interacting with each other.

766
00:49:12.600 --> 00:49:14.040
They weren't giving space to each other.

767
00:49:14.040 --> 00:49:17.840
They were in competition with each other.

768
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:23.280
And so he, even though he admitted the words were right on, the relationship between the

769
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:26.620
two and the love that these two had, it didn't really exist.

770
00:49:27.520 --> 00:49:33.540
And so that too, like honoring and respecting the person that you're partnered up with and

771
00:49:33.540 --> 00:49:35.220
even honoring them.

772
00:49:35.220 --> 00:49:40.980
If I'm out and about and I feel a word for someone, I will ask them, hey, do you have

773
00:49:40.980 --> 00:49:45.060
a second for me to give you a word of encouragement?

774
00:49:45.060 --> 00:49:48.620
And really like honoring where they're at with certain things.

775
00:49:48.620 --> 00:49:54.780
And something we say here is also to just control your manifestations.

776
00:49:54.780 --> 00:50:00.020
So a lot of people don't have a grid for some of these ways that we maybe.

777
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.480
manifest and while those are powerful moments from the Lord and things that are happening

778
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:09.860
to you, we actually do believe that there is a way to posture yourself to not manifest

779
00:50:09.860 --> 00:50:11.920
in front of the person that you're with.

780
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:17.280
And so all of those things are really important in creating safety around the prophetic for

781
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:18.280
people.

782
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:19.280
Awesome.

783
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:23.280
So those are some of the key protocols.

784
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:27.920
There are a number more that I could probably touch on, but we don't have time for that

785
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:28.920
today.

786
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:33.200
I would encourage you to at this point, if you have any questions that sort of come to

787
00:50:33.200 --> 00:50:37.160
mind around this or around anything that we're saying, we're going to have a Q and A session

788
00:50:37.160 --> 00:50:38.160
at the end.

789
00:50:38.160 --> 00:50:44.760
So there'll be space for you to ask questions and we invite that as well.

790
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:49.640
And then I just wanted to give you some tools as well of when you are prophesying in front

791
00:50:49.640 --> 00:50:51.240
of someone.

792
00:50:51.240 --> 00:50:55.640
We have a lot of various activations that we do, like what color are you getting for

793
00:50:55.640 --> 00:50:56.640
this person?

794
00:50:56.640 --> 00:51:01.200
Or if you're stuck and you're finding, I don't know how to start giving a prophetic

795
00:51:01.200 --> 00:51:05.320
word or what movie character do you think of when you see this person?

796
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:09.960
And there's so much permission to have fun and play with the prophetic.

797
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:13.960
One of my biggest things around the prophetic is the prophetic should be fun.

798
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.200
We get to have so much fun with the prophetic.

799
00:51:16.200 --> 00:51:21.320
I love nothing more than if I go to a coffee shop and I see the girl serving me and I tell

800
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:23.560
her, hey, you remind me of this Disney princess.

801
00:51:24.080 --> 00:51:28.040
Do you know how much people love hearing that kind of thing?

802
00:51:28.040 --> 00:51:30.600
And it just brings so much fun back to the prophetic.

803
00:51:30.600 --> 00:51:34.800
And so if you're ever stuck in the prophetic, those are some things that you can do.

804
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:39.240
I'm going to list out a few other questions that we sometimes tell our teams.

805
00:51:39.240 --> 00:51:42.960
So God, how do you see this person?

806
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:48.320
If they have, sorry, if they had never been hurt, what would they look like?

807
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:49.440
What are they good at?

808
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:51.680
What do you love about them?

809
00:51:51.720 --> 00:51:54.520
What gift are you giving them right now?

810
00:51:54.520 --> 00:51:57.040
What kindness have you shown them lately?

811
00:51:57.040 --> 00:52:00.320
That's a really good one.

812
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:04.040
How are their family relationships?

813
00:52:04.040 --> 00:52:09.080
Do you want to speak to them about their past, present or future right now?

814
00:52:09.080 --> 00:52:12.120
And what do you want to say about that?

815
00:52:12.120 --> 00:52:13.560
So these are some key questions.

816
00:52:13.560 --> 00:52:18.240
And I actually want to quickly move into a time of activation for you to have some of

817
00:52:18.240 --> 00:52:19.800
those questions in mind.

818
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.600
So why don't you pair up with somebody right now?

819
00:52:22.600 --> 00:52:26.080
It can actually be with the person that you're next to, even if you know them, because then

820
00:52:26.080 --> 00:52:30.120
they'll give you some good, honest feedback.

821
00:52:30.120 --> 00:52:35.240
So why don't you take a second just to pair up, and then I'll give you maybe one of the

822
00:52:35.240 --> 00:52:37.400
activations that we could do.

823
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:38.400
Yeah.

824
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:47.000
So, okay, I'll just list out those questions again for you guys.

825
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:49.360
So, God, how do you...

826
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:52.960
Let's just take a second, actually, I'll just list them out again.

827
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:56.420
God, how do you see this person?

828
00:52:56.420 --> 00:53:00.040
If they had never been hurt, what would they look like?

829
00:53:00.040 --> 00:53:01.720
What are they good at?

830
00:53:01.720 --> 00:53:03.800
What do you love about them?

831
00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:06.840
What gift are you giving them right now?

832
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.920
What kindness have you shown them lately?

833
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:10.920
How are their...

834
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:11.920
Oh, sure.

835
00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:12.920
I'm going too fast.

836
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:13.920
Okay.

837
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:14.920
Sorry, sorry, sorry.

838
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:15.920
That's so funny.

839
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:16.920
You guys are so hungry, ready to take notes.

840
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:17.920
Okay.

841
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:18.920
Hey, Deutschland.

842
00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:19.920
Let's go.

843
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:20.920
Yeah.

844
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:24.920
These are questions that you can ask in your dialogue with the Lord of...

845
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:26.920
Okay, I'll list them again.

846
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:32.920
So God, before I start speaking, I'll ask the Lord, how do you see this person?

847
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.920
How do you see this person?

848
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:37.920
How do you see this person?

849
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:39.920
How do you see this person?

850
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:43.920
Before I start speaking, I'll ask the Lord, how do you see this person?

851
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:46.920
And we're not asking you in this activation to do all of these right now.

852
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:51.920
These are just some questions that you can ask the Lord.

853
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:57.920
If they had never been hurt, what would they look like?

854
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:01.920
What are they good at?

855
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:04.920
I don't know what pace to take.

856
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:07.920
What do you love about them?

857
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:12.920
What gift are you giving them right now?

858
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:16.920
What kindness have you shown them recently?

859
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:21.920
How are their family relationships or friendship relationships?

860
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:25.920
I know that for me, in a season where I was having a really hard time with friends,

861
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.920
if someone had just said, hey, how are friendships going?

862
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:32.920
That would have opened up something in me to just feel validated of like, wow,

863
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:34.920
I feel so seen in this moment.

864
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:42.920
Even though it's painful, that being highlighted would have actually been a validation for me.

865
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:49.920
What color would you speak to them and why?

866
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:52.920
What color would you speak to them and why?

867
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:57.920
So I would ask the Lord, what color are you highlighting for this individual in front of me?

868
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.760
might see the color green, because he's wearing green.

869
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:04.260
And you can use those cues.

870
00:55:04.260 --> 00:55:07.900
Sometimes we think we can't use the cues of what they're wearing, but I'm seeing that

871
00:55:07.900 --> 00:55:14.280
he's wearing green, and I actually feel like the Lord speaks to you a lot in nature, Josh.

872
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:19.040
And I'm seeing green because I actually see you walking through forests, and it's like

873
00:55:19.040 --> 00:55:24.520
the streams of sunlight come through the trees and give you this life, and God is rejuvenating

874
00:55:24.520 --> 00:55:29.080
you in this season with life and just love and connection with him.

875
00:55:29.160 --> 00:55:31.160
Whoa, okay.

876
00:55:31.160 --> 00:55:32.880
Felt a lot on that.

877
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:40.440
So things like that, where you can actually use things like that as a way to prophesy.

878
00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:41.580
What was another one?

879
00:55:41.580 --> 00:55:48.280
What would you speak about their past, present, or future right now?

880
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:51.280
And what do you want to say about that?

881
00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:56.520
So with the person next to you, I think we're going to go ahead and do the color one.

882
00:55:56.520 --> 00:55:58.920
I feel like there's something on that.

883
00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:00.760
We'll take...

884
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:02.680
How much time should we take for that?

885
00:56:02.680 --> 00:56:06.640
We're going to...

886
00:56:06.640 --> 00:56:08.200
I'll give you a minute.

887
00:56:08.200 --> 00:56:11.840
Why don't you guys stand up, actually, as you're doing it?

888
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:12.840
Yeah.

889
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:13.840
All right.

890
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:14.840
Okay.

891
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:15.840
So everyone familiar?

892
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:16.840
Is everyone familiar with rock, paper, scissors?

893
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:17.840
All right.

894
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:18.840
Why don't you do it?

895
00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:19.840
All right.

896
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:20.840
All right.

897
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:21.840
All right.

898
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:22.840
All right.

899
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:23.840
All right.

900
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:24.840
All right.

901
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:25.840
All right.

902
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:26.840
All right.

903
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:27.840
All right.

904
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:28.840
All right.

905
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:29.840
All right.

906
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:35.840
Why don't you do rock, paper, scissors with the person in front of you?

907
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:41.840
All right.

908
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:45.840
Okay.

909
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:56.280
So if you won, you're going to go first, and we're just going to take a minute right now,

910
00:56:56.280 --> 00:57:01.040
just everyone in silence, to ask the Lord for a color for the other person.

911
00:57:01.040 --> 00:57:02.040
Okay?

912
00:57:02.040 --> 00:57:06.040
So both of you should be thinking right now of a color for the other person.

913
00:57:06.040 --> 00:57:10.120
And then after the minute, I'll let you know, and you can start, and we'll give you about

914
00:57:10.120 --> 00:57:11.120
a minute to prophesy.

915
00:57:11.120 --> 00:57:12.120
Did you say start?

916
00:57:12.120 --> 00:57:13.120
Start?

917
00:57:13.120 --> 00:57:14.120
No, just...

918
00:57:14.120 --> 00:57:19.360
Take a minute first, and I'll let you know when the minute is up.

919
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:24.520
So in that minute, just asking the Lord what color He's giving.

920
00:57:24.520 --> 00:57:25.520
Okay.

921
00:57:25.520 --> 00:57:26.520
Take 30 seconds.

922
00:57:26.520 --> 00:57:38.240
Thank you, Jesus.

923
00:57:38.240 --> 00:57:39.240
Some people are ready.

924
00:57:39.240 --> 00:57:41.720
They're looking at me like, let's go.

925
00:57:41.720 --> 00:57:47.760
All right, and get your recording devices out, because you're going to get a powerful

926
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:53.800
word in this time.

927
00:57:53.800 --> 00:58:00.800
And when you feel ready, why don't the first person can go ahead and start.

928
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:43.800
All right, first person, wrap up your word.

929
00:58:43.800 --> 00:59:07.800
All right, when you're ready, switch over and have the second person go.

930
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:30.800
Awesome.

931
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:35.800
Second person, start wrapping up your word.

932
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:51.800
All right, I'm going to pull you guys back.

933
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:56.800
Thank you, Jesus.

934
00:59:56.800 --> 00:59:59.800
All right, great.

935
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:01.280
I'm going to pull you guys back.

936
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:02.960
If you guys want to keep prophesying,

937
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:05.080
there's a break that's going to happen.

938
01:00:05.080 --> 01:00:08.600
So you have permission to keep going then.

939
01:00:08.600 --> 01:00:11.160
I think we have to let them know.

940
01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:20.760
Wow, love seeing the energy in the room.

941
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:21.880
All right.

942
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:24.520
Go ahead and wrap those up.

943
01:00:24.520 --> 01:00:32.400
And 5, 4, 3, 2, and 1.

944
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:36.160
And if you look at me, how many of you

945
01:00:36.160 --> 01:00:38.440
who just did this exercise?

946
01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:40.960
Hopefully those of you at home did this as well,

947
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:44.600
grabbed a family member or someone.

948
01:00:44.600 --> 01:00:49.360
How many were encouraged by the word you just received?

949
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:49.960
Good.

950
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:50.960
Everyone should be.

951
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:52.000
You guys are prophetic.

952
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:53.360
You're good at this.

953
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:55.240
If you weren't encouraged, maybe give them

954
01:00:55.240 --> 01:00:57.800
feedback to stay with 1 Corinthians 14,

955
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:01.280
verse 3, the one who prophesies, prophesies

956
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:02.920
for the strengthening, encouragement,

957
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:04.720
and comfort of another.

958
01:01:04.720 --> 01:01:05.520
All right.

959
01:01:05.520 --> 01:01:07.480
Hey, how many of you enjoyed Kim K?

960
01:01:12.040 --> 01:01:13.840
Kim Possible, she's awesome.

961
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:16.160
We love her so much.

962
01:01:16.160 --> 01:01:19.080
Hey, we're going to take a break in just a moment.

963
01:01:19.080 --> 01:01:24.400
But I did want to draw your attention to the screen.

964
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:26.640
We're going to do a special deal.

965
01:01:26.640 --> 01:01:29.080
We're going to put a slide up for our Dream Life

966
01:01:29.080 --> 01:01:31.440
School of Interpretation.

967
01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:34.080
And we're going to do a special deal for you guys.

968
01:01:34.080 --> 01:01:37.640
If you want to sign up today, we're going to have teams.

969
01:01:37.640 --> 01:01:41.200
Where are we going to have them, Jamie, in the back, in the room?

970
01:01:41.200 --> 01:01:43.880
And then those of you who are online,

971
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:45.240
you can put it in the chat too.

972
01:01:45.240 --> 01:01:47.560
But we're going to help you get signed up

973
01:01:47.560 --> 01:01:52.800
and give you $20 off if you sign up today for the conference.

974
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:55.600
So if you are interested in that, which

975
01:01:55.600 --> 01:01:59.200
I'm very interested in that time.

976
01:01:59.200 --> 01:02:01.600
And like Kim said, it is a season

977
01:02:01.600 --> 01:02:04.560
where God is speaking in dreams more than it

978
01:02:04.560 --> 01:02:06.880
seems like in a long time.

979
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.960
It's kind of like when Jesus Christ showed up on the scene,

980
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:11.880
what happened?

981
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:13.320
People started dreaming.

982
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:14.840
Joseph had dreams.

983
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:17.800
And it's super important in the season

984
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:20.680
where when Jesus shows up in new ways,

985
01:02:20.680 --> 01:02:24.200
it usually is marked by an increase of dreams and visions.

986
01:02:24.200 --> 01:02:27.400
And we want to apprehend what God is saying,

987
01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:30.000
because it's many times very strategic.

988
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:32.160
But we'd love to have you be a part.

989
01:02:32.160 --> 01:02:34.400
If you can't come back in town, we

990
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:38.080
do have a whole online portion of that

991
01:02:38.080 --> 01:02:42.200
as well, so you can learn from wherever you are in the world.

992
01:02:42.200 --> 01:02:44.520
And we're going to take a quick break.

993
01:02:45.200 --> 01:02:48.520
I believe this is our 30-minute break.

994
01:02:48.520 --> 01:02:50.480
Yeah, and we have some snacks on the back table

995
01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:51.680
if you want to grab a snack.

996
01:02:51.680 --> 01:02:53.160
There's some water bottles.

997
01:02:53.160 --> 01:02:56.920
There's tables on both sides.

998
01:02:56.920 --> 01:03:00.480
We also have a slide with a phone number and an email

999
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:02.720
address for you guys to text in your questions.

1000
01:03:02.720 --> 01:03:04.680
So maybe during this 30-minute break,

1001
01:03:04.680 --> 01:03:06.360
you can think about some of the questions

1002
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:09.680
that you would have for us and either text or email us.

1003
01:03:14.640 --> 01:03:18.640
We join with a song of heaven today.

1004
01:03:18.640 --> 01:03:19.640
Yeah.

1005
01:03:23.640 --> 01:03:30.640
Only a moment to live this life.

1006
01:03:30.640 --> 01:03:37.640
Like shooting stars, burning up the night,

1007
01:03:37.640 --> 01:03:40.640
until heaven's open.

1008
01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:42.760
Like shooting stars, burning up the night,

1009
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:44.800
until heaven's open.