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All right.

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We having fun?

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You're still awake?

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Don't need that dream interpreted yet?

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That's good.

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You know, one of the things about interpretation that is, I think, vitally important to all

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the revelatory gifts, you know, what's fun about the event, the dream life event, is

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that it works for dreams.

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It works for visions, the interpretation process, but it also works for learning how to interpret

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your prophetic words.

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Interpretation is vital to rightly interpreting what we're getting from God.

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You know, you guys just used the gift of interpretation to deliver a prophetic word through a color.

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You had to use the gift of interpretation.

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You may not know you used the gift of interpretation, but you didn't just use the gift of prophecy.

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You used the gift of prophecy in conjunction with the gift of interpretation at that moment.

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And a lot of times, you know, Jesus came and he loved to speak in parables.

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He loved to speak in signs and symbols.

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He loved metaphors.

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He loved pictures.

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And he'd speak that way in this kind of mysterious language.

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Well, it needed some interpretation many times so that those who had ears to ear, ears to

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hear, and eyes to see could see and hear what he was speaking, what he was doing.

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And I love that kind of invitation.

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The language of mystery, whenever there's a mystery presented to us from God, it's an

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invitation to come closer.

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It's an invitation to learn more.

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I just, I love that.

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You know, a lot of people give prophetic words.

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I saw a purple hippopotamus in a blue river, and a green eagle picked it up and brought

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it to the yellow river, and they're like, okay, you know.

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You got to speak people's language.

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God's metaphoric, he's out there.

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In some ways, like Sean Bull says, we're interpreting God.

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Sometimes we're trying to translate what God just said into a language that the world can

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understand.

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And I know Kim went over protocols, and she did such a great job.

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Good job, Kim.

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I love you happening more and more, different spaces.

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But I think one important thing is to speak the language of the person you're talking

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to.

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A lot of times what happens is we go out into the marketplace, and we speak churchy language

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that no one understands.

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And if we're speaking the wrong language, it may be a right word, but no one can understand

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it.

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And almost, in some ways, you know those apps where I can speak into the phone, and it'll

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translate into Japanese for me so that you can talk to people?

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You're like the phone for people.

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God is speaking, and you become the translator so that the person in front of you can understand

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it.

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And I want to encourage you to begin to learn the language of the marketplace.

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Learn the language of the people that you're speaking to.

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I get to travel all around the world, and I always am trying to use language.

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When I'm working with a translator, language that's readily translatable.

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There's some words, there's some even kind of humor or even plays on words that work

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in English, but it doesn't work in German, right?

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It doesn't work in that language.

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So I'm always like, hey, how can I speak in such a way that the person I'm delivering

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this to can understand it?

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It's so important.

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There's so many people, hey, you know, God wants to blow up your life.

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Well, you know, in church or maybe BSSM language, if you go to Bethel's School of Supernatural

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Ministry, you're like...

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Like, oh, we got whacked by God.

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Well, you know, how does that translate?

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God's going to blow up.

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My life is already blown up.

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I don't want to be blown up by God.

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Are we giving God a bad image there?

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God's going to whack you.

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Well, maybe you come from, that person

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comes from an abused background.

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And now they've got trauma because of the language

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we're using.

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God's giving you a new wineskin, brother.

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I don't know if you said something like that, did you?

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Did you talk about that in Protocols?

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OK.

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God's giving you a new wineskin, you know?

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And you're talking to a businessman.

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And they have no church.

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They've never been in church.

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They're like, wineskin?

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I thought you were a Christian.

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Do you drink?

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Like, well, Jesus did.

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He said, don't be drunk with wine.

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And he's like, I don't understand that.

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Well, you could say the exact same thing,

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just change the language a little bit.

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God's giving you a new operating system.

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You're using their language, something

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that they can understand to comprehend it.

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So we're growing at it.

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How do you grow in it?

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How do we train our people to grow?

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We love to train.

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We love to teach.

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But if you teach all the time and don't actually

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give the kids the ball, you could be a great coach.

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But no one ever plays the game.

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You're like, coach, could you just stop talking

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and let us try it out a little bit?

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That's why our teaching model is information,

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but it's also connected to activation, activation.

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And you know what we like to do as well

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is it should be fun activation.

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Now, it may be a little scary.

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It may be like, I've never done this before.

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Oh, no.

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What am I going to do?

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But it should have fun connected to it.

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I'll tell you what.

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People are surprised when they come to Bethel

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and they experience us for the very first time.

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They experience the prophetic for the first time.

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The practical ways God speaks, the fun ways God speaks.

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And we have people who come from all over the world.

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And they may be huge influencers in their sphere,

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whatever it is.

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And we sit down with them.

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And by the end, they feel like they're friends with us

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and friends with God.

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They didn't know it could be so practical, so loving,

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so caring, so personal.

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It's colorful.

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I mean, if kids wouldn't have fun doing what we're doing,

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then we're probably doing it wrong.

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We used to do a thing called Treasure Box Prophetic.

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And as a communicator, I want to learn how to communicate well.

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And as a communicator, I want to grow in communication.

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I love that model that was given to us at creation,

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the creation story that what was in God's heart,

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God the Father's heart, Holy Spirit's brooding

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over the waters.

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And what's in God's heart, all of a sudden, He speaks.

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And Jesus Christ comes out and the Word creates.

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And there's such a partnership there.

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And with one word, things were created.

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I'm like, I want to learn that in communication.

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You want to know the best way to start that?

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Force yourself to speak to young kids in their chapel.

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Force yourself to communicate.

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This is why teachers are brilliant with communication

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many times, because they know how

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to speak people's language.

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They learn voice inflection.

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They learn cadence, rhythm.

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They learn how to break rhythm.

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They learn body language.

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Why am I so animated up here sometimes?

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Why?

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Because I'm speaking to people and I

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want to keep them engaged.

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They learn this thing, eye contact.

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They learn engaging the audience and pulling them in.

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All those things are vital.

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This is what we're doing in the prophetic.

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Kim K, come here.

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Many times, we can give words, right?

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And they can be powerful.

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They can be impactful.

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But sometimes, the way I deliver it

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is more important than the words I'm delivering.

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Because they're interpreting something I mean I could be like

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Yeah, I I feel like I feel like

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Jesus loves you

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Jesus Jesus loves you

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I'm like, is that a question? Is that a statement? Like what is that? Like I are you constipated like what?

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You know, we make it so hard

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But if if Kim K stand in here in front of me and I've got a word like that

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And I've got a word like that

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Then that I can't contact the tone of my voice

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See a lot of times what we do in the prophetic is we don't match the emotion that God gave it in

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We match our own emotion

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Like just because you're a weeping prophet doesn't mean you need to weep every time I'm like

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This is supposed to be an encouraging word and you're like

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God's like you're coming into a season of joy amazing things. It's like

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Coming into a season of joy

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So beautiful

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You know, I'm like I'm not matching what God is releasing to Kim

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God loves you so much

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So proud of you so proud of you. You see that difference

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It's it's it's really important our delivery speaks a ton you're good you can stay with me or you could go sit down

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It's so important a good example of it years ago we had a

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couple of billionaires fly in on their private jet and they flew in and and we we set up a

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private session for them with some of our prophetic teams and and

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Kim said, you know, we break up when we're we're doing sessions. We're already always in a team

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We're doing it together. And so we had two gentlemen

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Giving prophetic words over these people and they were friends of mine. And I I said, hey, would you do me a favor?

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You have a context for God and who we are

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But there's a lot of people we minister who have zero context for that. So would you give us feedback afterwards and

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the one lady we were

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Prophesying over said hey there. I

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Can I give you some feedback? Yeah. Yeah, please give give me some feedback for our teams. I want to hear this

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she said well we had this guy and

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He's his words

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We're super accurate and he's given me these words and they're amazing but his partner was like

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He wasn't even engaged he was like disengaged almost like gave the body language like I don't believe what this guy's saying

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And she says the problem was everything this guy was saying was super accurate

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And she said, you know what happened when it came to his time to prophesy

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Even though his words were accurate. I couldn't receive any of them

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There know you're awesome and you're my disciples because your prophetic words are accurate

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Is that what scripture says?

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You do signs and wonders and miracles

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No, it's they'll know that by the love for one another you have and

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if we're not actually

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engaging with and

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partnering with that

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We're actually giving other people permission not to listen to our words

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That's why love love that foundation is so important to what we do in the prophetic if you don't have love then then you're not

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You're not a friend of God. So why would they listen to a word? That's from Ben Armstrong. I

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Got a prophetic word from Ben here. Who's Ben?

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I've got a prophetic word from God and

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And so we get to display love and all this these are all practical things

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hopefully that's

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Exactly what you came here for

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The practical of this stuff, give me the nuts and bolts like Kim said, like I want to do something with this,

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like give me the steps. This is the steps stuff, but it also carries a ton of heart.

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And I want to kind of

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take you to a story in Acts chapter 9 and

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I'm going to do a few things for a couple minutes and have my good friend Dr. V, the smart one of the group,

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come up and talk about some practical things we do with serving our global community.

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All of our online learning stuff, our platforms there.

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And then after our session, we'll have the wonderful Lindsay Ryman. Most of you were at the conference.

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You would have seen her bio and her information and maybe you even went to her Prophetic Labs breakout.

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She's really brilliant. Her third year was with me as well.

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I'm like, there's a pattern here. Dr. V did his third year with me as well.

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I mean, I pick good people. I mean, they actually more pick me and they show up.

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And, you know, when Lindsay was in school, she came and was like,

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I need to connect with you and I should maybe tell you a little bit about that whole deal.

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But she's like, I've got these ideas and I'm like, well, let's do it.

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Why don't you do your third year with me and your whole third year we'll be developing this stuff.

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And and we just got to a spot this last year where we could bring her on staff and actually pay her to do stuff.

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Praise the Lord. This lady has sacrificed so much.

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Her house burned down during the car fire, a crazy loss.

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But this lady has been so faithful with nothing.

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And it's so good to see that God has set things up for her benefit in this season.

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So we'll get to hear from her and all this crazy stuff called Prophetic Labs.

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And maybe some acoregia testimonies and a little bit about solutionaries and, oh, deep stuff.

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Right. Let's talk about a deep story. Acts chapter 19.

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Years ago, I was in my office doing a little devotional and I don't know how you read or do your devotions.

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Mine are like this. I read a portion of scripture and it's almost like you have a heartbeat monitor on you.

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And I have this thing, you know, and it goes boop, boop, boop, you know, and you're reading and it's just normal.

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And then all of a sudden there's a big spike in the heartbeat monitor.

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And and maybe your heart starts racing a little more.

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Something just triggers or or or even maybe the heart beat monitor slows.

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I'm looking for a difference. I'm looking for something that does.

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Oh, that's I just moved from the Logos, the written word into Rhema.

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The God breathe word. OK, I'm now in the breath of God here.

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This is this is the living word that I'm in.

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And I was I was doing devotions one day and I love reading that way.

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And I'm doing some devotional reading and and I come across the story in Acts 19.

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Remember the story of the seven sons of Sceva?

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Anyone ever heard of that story? I'll set the scene here.

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You've got these seven sons of Sceva and the high priest and and and this guy's, you know,

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obviously a high priest has got a relationship with God, right?

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Seven sons of Sceva. And they're hearing all of this miraculous stuff,

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this super cool stuff that's going on. People are getting saved.

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People are getting healed. People are getting delivered.

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There's a prophecy going on. There's all kinds of stuff.

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We're in the book of Acts. Come on. This is like high five God miracles everywhere.

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I'm signing up for that. This is amazing. This is incredible.

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Sons of Sceva are like, I want to get in on some of that action.

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And they're like, well, how do we do that?

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Again, this is a little paraphrase, BIV, Ben's International Version.

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You can go read it yourself to get the exact. But, you know, I'm putting it in.

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Our day and age, you know, Seven Sons of Sceva,

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they're like, wow, this is awesome.

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Hey, if we could just do what Paul's doing,

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that would be incredible.

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He keeps casting out demons.

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Hey guys, you see that guy over there

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who's demon-possessed?

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Hey, why don't we do this?

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Why don't we cast out a demon?

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Well, we gotta figure out how to do it.

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There's gotta be a formula, right?

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There's gotta be some way.

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Well, let's figure out what Paul, oh.

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Hey, every time Paul does his stuff,

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he does it and he says the magic words.

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And one of the brothers is like, what magic words?

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What are you talking about, man?

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Yeah, I figured out the magic words.

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Paul says, in Jesus' name.

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Ooh, all right, we got this.

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High five, bros, let's go do it.

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And these seven young men go out to cast out a demon.

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They're like, okay, we're gonna do this.

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This is gonna be awesome.

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We're gonna do this stuff.

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And they try and cast out the demon

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and they use the magic words.

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In Jesus' name.

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And something unique happens in that moment.

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Something that doesn't happen when Paul says in Jesus' name

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and the demons talk to these guys and say, oh, you know,

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hey, we know Paul and we definitely know Jesus.

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Yeah, but who the heck are you?

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How about we just beat the snot out of you?

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And they give them such a severe beating

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that they run away naked and bleeding.

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Have you ever got your clothes beat off you?

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That seems like a severe beating.

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That seems pretty severe.

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That seems pretty intense.

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They're like, those magic words didn't work.

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I don't, what's going on?

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And in that moment, as I'm reading the Bible

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and I'm reading this story, I hear God ask me a question.

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Ben, why do you say in Jesus' name when you pray?

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I could feel it.

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I could feel the two by four about to slam down on my head

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like the revelation bump, you know?

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I knew, I'm like, oh, oh darn.

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I feel correction coming.

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I feel a course correction coming.

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Why do you pray in Jesus' name?

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Well, I was taught to pray in Jesus' name.

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Well, yeah, yeah, it's in the Bible.

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Pray this way.

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Okay, okay, but he says, why do you pray in Jesus' name?

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I said, well, because then the devil

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will have to listen to me.

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He says, oh, really?

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Have you ever prayed in Jesus' name and said the words

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and nothing ever happened?

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You ever been there like praying for someone

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on the healing line or going to get a prophetic word

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or whatever and you're like, in Jesus' name.

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And nothing happens.

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So you change your inflection.

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I said, in Jesus' name.

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Oh, you don't understand my accent.

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In the name of Jesus.

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In the name of Jesus, come on.

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It's almost like, hey, devil, listen to me.

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And then he says, why else do you pray

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in the name of Jesus?

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I said, well, then I think you'll show up

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and you'll help me.

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You'll do something.

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He's like, oh, you're trying to convince me?

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You know, Jesus, in the name of Jesus?

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Come on, Jesus, don't you see?

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Don't make me look bad.

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In the name of Jesus, get over here.

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You know, it's like the little brother

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who goes after the bully, you know,

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and then is like hoping his brother comes and backs him up.

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Brother's like, bro, you call on this yourself.

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Like, you're gonna have to deal with this.

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And this was these sons of Sceva.

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And God told me in that moment, he said,

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Ben, praying in Jesus' name was never about words.

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It's about a position of relationship.

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Now, I'm not saying it's bad.

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I'm just saying in Jesus' name.

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I'm not saying don't ever pray that way again.

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I'm great with you praying that model and doing that.

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But it has to be not just, oh, hey,

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I go to Bethel Church.

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Bill Johnson has a relationship with God.

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He does it this way, so I do it that way.

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You know, they had a high priest as a father.

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You can't rely on your parents' relationship with God.

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You gotta have your own relationship with God.

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Yeah, well, hey, I know that guy, Paul.

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I seen him.

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I sat under his ministry once.

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So obviously, I got an impartation.

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Now, it's about relationship.

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And all of what we do and everything in all of the gifts

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flows from that relational capacity with God.

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And I just wanna get deeper.

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I wanna go further.

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And I would say this.

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Be careful that we don't prostitute our relationship

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with God by going to God and trying to get intimate

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with him so he'll give us a gift.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, and that's a pretty intense statement.

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I get it.

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And maybe we wouldn't say that we're doing that,

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but maybe we get the cart in front of the horse

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a couple of times.

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Maybe we get that thing, like, okay, I just need,

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how do I grow in my, I just need to get deeper with God,

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and then I'll be able to wow him at prophetic conference.

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You know?

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Could we potentially do that?

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Yeah.

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I want the power and the weight of my words

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to come from a deep, abiding relationship with God.

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And that's what we all want, and I know you all want that.

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And it's beautiful.

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And it's so important for us that in this season,

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we would be those ones who are intimate with him

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and that we wouldn't rely on all the other stuff.

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Of course, we get impartations.

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Oh, that's cool.

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I was like, oh, my clock, I gotta give Ralph 15 minutes,

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but I, it's Ralph in 17.

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I'm like, oh, I'm already out of time.

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Lord, I spoke too slow.

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Maybe everything just like, God froze time.

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But we need to make sure we do that.

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And that's our passion, that's our desire,

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that's in everything we do, in every way we train,

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and everywhere we go, people are like,

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oh, teach me how to do this stuff.

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I'm like, hey, how about we teach you the heart

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of this stuff?

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Because if you get that part right,

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the rest of this stuff is really good.

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We're gonna activate you, we're gonna practice in this,

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but the biggest training I think we all need

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is in the heart and the foundation of things.

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And then we get to build, we get to explore,

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we get to create, we get to innovate with God

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and have all kinds of fun with doing that.

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We get to innovate with those things.

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I never finished treasure box prophetic, did I?

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You're like, what is that?

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What's treasure box prophetic?

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So with the kids, what we would do is at chapel,

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I'd bring in a treasure box,

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and I'd put all kinds of weird little knickknacks in there.

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And then what we would do is we'd call a student up

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to reach in the treasure box and pull one out.

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And then we'd get another student,

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maybe they're in fourth grade,

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and they come up and they pick up something

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and maybe, oh man, it's a paperclip.

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Okay, and then we invite one of the other students

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to come up and stand up in front of them,

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and we say, give them a prophetic word

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based on the paperclip.

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What?

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Yeah, what can you do with a paperclip?

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Well, you can hold things together.

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Oh, so what do you think they do with relationships?

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Maybe they're the glue that holds things together

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in relationship.

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What else?

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What else do you do with it?

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Well, I can bend the paperclip and I say,

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on those movies where they they use the pay-per-click and they they pick a lock

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I'm like oh awesome so they have an ability to maybe unlock things for

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people yeah and I see I see a lock on their heart oh they're able to unlock

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people's hearts that's beautiful that's amazing it's simple activations that are

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fun and we can do and I most of you in here raised your hands when I said how

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many of you are parents there's a ton of you well we could create this kind of

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normal in our own home prophetic community starts there home I can

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remember we would always have people over at the house fun times we'd have

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them over for dinner someone coming and some minister from somewhere and we have

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them over to our house and we have dinner and and the kids are out having

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fun and they'd run in the room and we say Kiki do you see anything for these

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guys nope and they run away and I didn't wait what Heather and I in were really

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intentional about was hey don't force them to do something give them

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opportunities to do something sometimes like I see you in a Minnie Mouse dress

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and you've got those big ears what's that mean to you baby nothing and then

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we would interpret and we'd partner and she'd run play or you know one of the

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other kids like I see a flower over here I see a purple petunia and and this is

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what it means and sometimes they'd be like holy cow I where did that

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vocabulary even come from crazy stuff crazy crazy kind of stuff but it was

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it was never a pressure thing it's funny yeah if you're at the conference there

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was a moment where I had Haley go pick a couple of people out of the overflow so

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we could prophesy over them and and and I had a word formulating and my

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daughter's on the front row let me check your phone I'm like I'm like I'm

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old but not that old and I look at the phone and she says I see a parrot over

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them I see a parrot over them and and I'm like okay she sees a parrot I'm

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like this is exactly what we did when they were kids exactly what we did and

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and and I I started prophesying over them and releasing a word and as I

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released the word I'm reminded of the parrot and I'm like hey my daughter said

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she saw a parrot over you guys Maddie what does that mean she's like I don't

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know because really at that moment she didn't know she just saw that and at

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that moment when she said I don't know all the sudden things started coming and

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then she spoke with authority I mean she didn't even have the mic but everyone in

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the room pretty much could hear and she declared things with power and authority

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because of what not because of dad's relationship because she has her own

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relationship but where did she get that relationship she got it in our home as

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we grew that up see where we do family ministry here not family pressure

492
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ministry you're all gonna do this although there are some structures like

493
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hey we go to church welcome to the club that's part of our family you know you're

494
00:34:06.360 --> 00:34:13.400
gonna go to youth group have fun do whatever you want a youth group but

495
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:18.679
you're going you know there were some things that were non-negotiables it's

496
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:23.880
been a little bit of a different season you know my my daughter Kira has her own

497
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:33.000
home now in in in the city and and Maddie is night 19 and and she still

498
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:40.239
lives at home but she's got a job and with when kovat hit and shut everything

499
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:45.560
down shut church down it was like oh now I can work on Sundays because there was

500
00:34:45.560 --> 00:34:49.520
no church on Sundays and we could watch it and that kind of stuff but then their

501
00:34:49.520 --> 00:34:56.239
schedules got messed up and it's like Oh church ah Sunday morning church

502
00:34:56.239 --> 00:35:00.640
doesn't work okay well where are you gonna find church

503
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.280
I think there are some things that you can put in,

504
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but what I'm saying with that is that we wouldn't put

505
00:35:06.120 --> 00:35:11.040
weight and pressure on our kids to be somehow

506
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super spiritual or, you know, the pressure on those.

507
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.740
It should be a thing where it's out of an overflow.

508
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:25.080
I mean, and even in their play, it's like,

509
00:35:25.080 --> 00:35:27.560
yeah, they're gonna learn kindness and respect

510
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and all those things.

511
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But it was so important and so beautiful to see how

512
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when you do that, if you train up a child in the way

513
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they should go, when they're old,

514
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they will not depart from it.

515
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It's in them.

516
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Even though they may be making choices,

517
00:35:43.180 --> 00:35:45.980
going other places, your kids may be somewhere else

518
00:35:45.980 --> 00:35:48.200
doing something, it's still in them.

519
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And it's ringing inside of them.

520
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.260
The voice of conviction really saying,

521
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hey, you were made for more.

522
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There's more.

523
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It'll continually be there.

524
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It will, in some ways, haunt them.

525
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Really, it will.

526
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Job 33, it says, in a dream, in a vision in the night,

527
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when deep sleep falls on men, as they slumber in their beds,

528
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he'll even terrify them.

529
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One version says, terrify them with warnings

530
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to keep them from the pit.

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To keep them from stumbling into the grave.

532
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This is important.

533
00:36:30.820 --> 00:36:34.180
God pursues us with this stuff.

534
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And I love you guys as parents,

535
00:36:37.180 --> 00:36:39.540
your relentless pursuit of your children.

536
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And we call all of those who are away, back home.

537
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In Jesus' name.

538
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In Jesus' name.

539
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Okay, eight minutes.

540
00:36:49.980 --> 00:36:52.020
Oh, I've got a lot of notes.

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Dr. V.

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I think in our culture, in what we're creating continually,

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is we wanna take big risks in places

544
00:37:07.700 --> 00:37:11.100
where people know you and believe in you.

545
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So that's where we do a lot of practice

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is one another, hands on,

547
00:37:16.180 --> 00:37:18.940
so that when we're doing a prophetic lab

548
00:37:18.940 --> 00:37:23.940
for some potential world leader or whoever it is,

549
00:37:24.460 --> 00:37:29.380
that we're not, we haven't already practiced it.

550
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Like, we wanna practice this stuff.

551
00:37:31.740 --> 00:37:33.220
It's the mature, right?

552
00:37:33.220 --> 00:37:34.820
Through practice and repetition.

553
00:37:34.820 --> 00:37:38.020
We wanna practice this stuff on a continual basis.

554
00:37:38.020 --> 00:37:40.820
Try and do your biggest risk stuff

555
00:37:40.820 --> 00:37:44.460
in the church where there should be a lot of grace.

556
00:37:45.940 --> 00:37:47.500
With individuals in the church

557
00:37:47.500 --> 00:37:49.400
where there should be a lot of grace.

558
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:50.620
Because what are you trying to learn?

559
00:37:50.620 --> 00:37:52.220
I'm trying to learn the voice.

560
00:37:53.180 --> 00:37:54.020
Put it that way.

561
00:37:54.020 --> 00:37:56.620
Hey, I'm practicing here in the voice of God.

562
00:37:56.620 --> 00:37:57.860
Is your name Simon?

563
00:37:57.860 --> 00:37:59.060
No, it's Sheila.

564
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All right, I got it wrong.

565
00:38:04.140 --> 00:38:06.060
Thanks for letting me take a risk.

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I jest.

567
00:38:12.220 --> 00:38:14.120
Just making sure you're awake.

568
00:38:14.120 --> 00:38:16.320
You like my sense of humor, so that's good.

569
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It only pushes me to do more.

570
00:38:19.820 --> 00:38:21.540
It's like, oh, they laughed at me.

571
00:38:21.540 --> 00:38:23.140
Let me give another one.

572
00:38:23.140 --> 00:38:24.980
Then it turns into bad dad jokes.

573
00:38:24.980 --> 00:38:28.060
And my daughters text me, dad, stop.

574
00:38:32.740 --> 00:38:34.860
I hear all my dads laughing.

575
00:38:34.860 --> 00:38:37.020
You're like, yeah, I love that.

576
00:38:37.020 --> 00:38:39.540
I love those dad meme stuff.

577
00:38:39.540 --> 00:38:41.260
I send them all to my kids.

578
00:38:41.260 --> 00:38:44.060
They're like, dad, stop sending me those.

579
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I'm like, you know it's true.

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Oh.

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So we want to take risks.

582
00:38:52.520 --> 00:38:54.920
But it's like, it's funny because we do have

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00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:56.400
a school of ministry here.

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And risk sometimes looks even weirder in our environment.

585
00:39:01.200 --> 00:39:06.200
And they, God bless our students.

586
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.860
Sometimes, sometimes we've had times where

587
00:39:10.860 --> 00:39:14.800
our students decide, I'm gonna take the biggest risk

588
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.200
and jump up on the table in In-N-Out Burger

589
00:39:18.200 --> 00:39:19.440
and start preaching.

590
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:23.840
Yeah, probably not the best place to do that.

591
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:26.960
You know, I'm gonna get, let's just go get

592
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:31.360
blasted in the Holy Spirit at Applebee's.

593
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:36.360
And it's like, that's actually illegal

594
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:38.940
to be drunk in public.

595
00:39:39.060 --> 00:39:39.900
Right?

596
00:39:41.100 --> 00:39:44.980
Right, so why is it legal for you to go

597
00:39:44.980 --> 00:39:48.340
and get drunk in public in the Holy Spirit?

598
00:39:48.340 --> 00:39:52.580
And I get it, if God falls on you, you can't control that.

599
00:39:52.580 --> 00:39:55.380
But there's a lot of that that we can control.

600
00:39:55.380 --> 00:40:00.380
And we want to be careful that we're not burning our.

601
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.960
bridges with our community. How about you prophesy over them with your tip?

602
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:16.320
I've seen so many people like, oh, they try and prophesy over the waiter or the waitress,

603
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:22.240
and they give this profound prophetic word and leave a janky tip.

604
00:40:22.240 --> 00:40:37.600
How's that? Yeah. Don't be that guy. I'm just talking practicals. I'm just talking

605
00:40:37.600 --> 00:40:46.080
real life prophetic here. I'm just talking, this is what maturity looks like, is to learn

606
00:40:46.080 --> 00:40:52.160
these different ways. My wife is brilliant at the prophetic, and it comes out through

607
00:40:52.160 --> 00:41:00.480
handwritten cards. She sends 20 to 30 handwritten cards every week. And so she's like, just who's

608
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:07.360
highlighted. She keeps notes in her phone like, oh, so-and-so was highlighted this week,

609
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:11.760
and I was looking at this, and so it spoke this to me. And they're like, how did you know?

610
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:19.760
Oh, my goodness. And it's the right thing at the right time. She brings prophetic in her

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00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:28.320
photography. One of her mottos in her professional photography, and most of her stuff is outside the

612
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:33.120
church, is called capturing the heart. She wants to capture the heart of who people really are.

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Some years ago, she was photographing a couple, and as she was clicking away,

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she saw a banner flash over their head in the Spirit. So she sees this banner flash over the

615
00:41:47.200 --> 00:41:55.520
head, and it said, five years of marriage left. Now, if we're not careful, we do prophetic stupid

616
00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:00.160
in that moment, and we just declare whatever we saw.

617
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:09.760
Now, Heather took that picture. She saw five years of marriage left, and she thought, not on my watch.

618
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She thought, no, whether that's the law of sowing and reaping, and she's seeing the results of

619
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:23.600
what the relational investment in each other is right now, they're on a bad track,

620
00:42:23.600 --> 00:42:29.440
or whether it was the devil's intent, or whether God was just giving her information. She's like,

621
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:36.800
hey, based on that information, what's my job? What do I do? These aren't believers. I can't

622
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:43.440
bring this up. What do I do? I start taking a photo, and every photo, I am working to invest

623
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:52.240
in connection that drives that declaration away. Create the type of connection that transforms

624
00:42:52.240 --> 00:43:03.120
that situation. She did that. Seven years after that, she gets a call, and it's the gentleman

625
00:43:04.240 --> 00:43:11.040
of this couple, and he says, hey, we have three kids now. Can we have a photo shoot with you?

626
00:43:12.240 --> 00:43:17.760
And she's interested. She's interested in like, I wonder what happened, you know.

627
00:43:18.720 --> 00:43:23.360
Where have you been? What happened? I haven't seen you guys in forever. Last time, you know,

628
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:30.640
we did photos. It was just you guys. Now you have three kids. What happened? And he proceeds

629
00:43:30.640 --> 00:43:39.440
to tell her, you wouldn't believe it. We were on the road to divorce when we did our photo shoot

630
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:46.080
with you, but a couple weeks after, everything changed in our life. I got a new job. It shifted

631
00:43:46.080 --> 00:43:52.560
everything. We're more connected than we've ever been in our life, and it was just everything

632
00:43:52.560 --> 00:43:59.920
shifted. Can you prophesy with your camera? Yes, you can. Like, can you shift atmospheres? That's

633
00:43:59.920 --> 00:44:11.440
what we do everywhere we go. I would much rather you be a person that shows up, and every time you

634
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:15.840
show up, an environment changes, and maybe you didn't even speak a word.

635
00:44:17.040 --> 00:44:20.640
Sometimes we get so enamored with the prophetic word

636
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.240
that we don't become the prophetic person.

637
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.880
One who just, I naturally strengthen people. I naturally encourage people. I don't wake up in

638
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:39.280
the morning. They're like, okay, Ben, what are we going to do? High five God. Okay, who are we going

639
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:45.600
to prophesy over? Okay, yeah, Starbucks lady. All right, what's the word? All right, one, two,

640
00:44:45.600 --> 00:44:52.560
three, break. Let's go. Like, I don't do that. I just go through life trying to be the most

641
00:44:52.560 --> 00:44:59.840
encouraging person I can possibly be. I try and be the most loving person I can possibly be.

642
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.000
I can't get everyone, but I can touch a lot of people and maybe it's the Starbucks lady

643
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:08.760
maybe it's my mechanic and

644
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:15.840
It's that moment where you see something and God's highlighting something and maybe it's just hey

645
00:45:17.040 --> 00:45:24.920
You're amazing. Thanks so much for serving me today. You do so good at it. I really like my cappuccino today

646
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:26.920
Oh

647
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:29.560
Did you know I just needed some encouragement

648
00:45:32.080 --> 00:45:34.080
Because I'm prophetic

649
00:45:36.120 --> 00:45:39.600
Dr. V why don't you you come let me pray over you

650
00:45:40.240 --> 00:45:46.600
In this because this is this is our context. This is a this is how we train. This is how we equip

651
00:45:46.600 --> 00:45:52.440
This is how we do it. And and we don't want you to go away. It's like well, I don't have a prophetic community

652
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:59.360
I don't have a prophetic church. I'm like you have a family like you have people around you. You have friends start creating it there

653
00:46:00.160 --> 00:46:02.520
Start creating it in the thing. You're well

654
00:46:03.720 --> 00:46:07.600
They don't let me prophesy in church. Okay. Well, you've got a job

655
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:15.400
Someone asked me the other day. Well, I'm in this church and they they they're there's only the the prophet

656
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:20.480
I'm like great great. Don't be a prophet. Just be the most encouraging person in the environment

657
00:46:21.200 --> 00:46:24.400
Be the encourager give words of

658
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:27.160
encouragement and

659
00:46:27.160 --> 00:46:31.880
Pretty soon. Everyone's going to come to you and say oh my goodness. All of your words came to pass

660
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.560
You you're a prophet in our environment

661
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:43.880
Changes everything just change the semantics change the word. My mom used to train in in school. She was the vice president

662
00:46:44.680 --> 00:46:47.160
principal Bethel Christian School and

663
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And

664
00:46:49.120 --> 00:46:56.080
But she taught a lot of curriculum for public school teachers and and they're like, how do we create an environment like that?

665
00:46:56.080 --> 00:47:01.520
But don't do the religious stuff. Why don't you just create a culture of encouragement?

666
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.480
Okay, how do you encourage each other reach in the box pick out an object now?

667
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.160
How do you encourage that person in front of you with that object?

668
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:14.600
You're teaching them to prophesy. You're just not calling it prophecy. I

669
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:18.680
Guess just be smart with it. Dr. V. Save me

670
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All right, you're gonna have a seat this little portion is gonna be short

671
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:38.920
but I want to tell you just a little bit about myself so, you know who is talking up here as

672
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:42.000
Venice said my name is Ralph Veenstra

673
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:48.320
I was born originally in the Netherlands lived there for about 12 years and then our family

674
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:54.960
Immigrated to Canada where my mom and my siblings still live, but I've been a few other places in the world

675
00:47:55.480 --> 00:48:00.600
I felt called to the ministry when I was already in high school and

676
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:07.400
As Ben has referred to I'm a pastor in the mainline Reformed Church. That's where my credentials are

677
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:14.760
I grew up in the Reformed Church because I grew up in the Netherlands and that's one of the main traditions over there

678
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:16.080
and so obviously

679
00:48:16.080 --> 00:48:21.600
those traditions are not known for the Holy Spirit and prophecy and things like that, but

680
00:48:22.120 --> 00:48:24.120
When I went to Calvin Seminary

681
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:29.240
That's where actually the Lord started speaking to me and I'm gonna make a long story short

682
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:31.920
Just so you get a snapshot of who I am

683
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:34.800
But served five years in the Dominican Republic

684
00:48:35.520 --> 00:48:40.000
With my wife as missionaries there and I basically had two different jobs. I

685
00:48:40.520 --> 00:48:45.480
Equipped pastors and evangelists who were national pastors and evangelists

686
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:51.400
So that was part of my job. The other part of my job was to teach at the National Evangelical University

687
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:58.720
So I taught in Spanish preparing students and professionals either for ministry or they were already in ministry

688
00:48:58.720 --> 00:49:03.720
But they wanted to get equipped so that lasted about five years thought I'd be there much longer

689
00:49:03.720 --> 00:49:07.600
But the Lord took me back to North America. I ended up in a

690
00:49:08.120 --> 00:49:13.680
large mainline Reformed Church in Southern California served there as an associate pastor and

691
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:18.960
Was in charge of pastoral care there as well as a lot of the adult ministries

692
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:20.960
but what I ended up doing a lot is

693
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:25.840
just mobilizing people for ministry because that's what I love to do is

694
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:34.160
You know when people get engaged and they serve they become part of something and they become alive and I just love doing that

695
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:35.560
so

696
00:49:35.560 --> 00:49:40.480
after 12 years the Lord brought that to an end because I thought I'd be there much longer too and

697
00:49:41.120 --> 00:49:45.560
Then sent me up here and like many others it was only going to be here for a year

698
00:49:45.560 --> 00:49:47.560
But now we're going on 10 years

699
00:49:49.200 --> 00:49:50.280
And

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In terms of the team the prophetic team that I'm a part of that

701
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:59.920
I'm privileged to be a part of because it was never my goal to stay here. It's just that the Lord

702
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.000
open up a way, and I made it clear to me that was my calling right now.

703
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.000
Again, I'm doing a couple of different jobs.

704
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:14.000
We'll talk about the online platform in just a minute because we really want to resource you.

705
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:17.000
And you're here, and that's awesome.

706
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:24.000
We go some places on some of our ministry trips, but we're limited by that, and even more so with COVID.

707
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:29.000
And so the best thing we can do is make things available online throughout the world.

708
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And that way, not only do you have access, but maybe the places that you go back to, you can introduce others as well.

709
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:45.000
But also, just over the last couple of years, I've had a real passion for developing people in their prophetic calling.

710
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.000
So some people, they know they have a call to be a prophet.

711
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:54.000
And some people know they just called to the prophetic, but they don't know exactly what to do with that

712
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.000
or how to channel that or what exactly to focus it on.

713
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And so I've just kind of started experimenting with that this year with some of our third years as well,

714
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.000
the third years in the School of Ministry.

715
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:08.000
I see a couple of them here today.

716
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:11.000
And it's just been really fun.

717
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:15.000
And again, we just move with the Holy Spirit, and he gives us ideas.

718
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We try different things, and then we just kind of refine it.

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But that is one of my passions.

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I just love to pour into people and resource them.

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Because when you're working with adults, you know, you make choices, you make decisions,

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but a lot of times you just need somebody to come alongside you or say,

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hey, you know, take this class or do this, and this will help you.

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And so that's really what I love to do.

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And so if we can just pull up the first slide right now.

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I've given a couple of slides to the back.

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We have an online learning platform, and it's at ecourses.bethelprophetic.com.

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If you can't write that down, it doesn't matter.

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In your little pamphlet, you have a section that says Stay Connected,

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and our website is bethelprophetic.com.

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It's right in here.

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So if you get to that website, you will just click on the tab called Courses,

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and that will take you right there as well.

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But basically what you're going to find there, I think we've got about 20 courses right now.

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You're going to find Foundations in the Prophetic.

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You're going to find our Basic Dream Interpretation class.

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Then you're also going to find Advanced Prophetic Courses.

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You're going to find Advanced Dream Interpretation.

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We have some Prophetic Fitness Exercises.

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We used to do a lot of Prophetic Community Chats

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where we'd have different people like Donna DaSilva and other prophetic leaders in our environment.

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We'd have them come in for an hour interview where Ben would interview them,

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and we videotaped that. That's all available.

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We also have some classes on Prophetic Intercession.

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Some of the seminars that we do like this one today, we've done it several years in the past.

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Stewarding Encounters, which usually happens after Open Heavens,

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as well as Dream Life, which is coming up again.

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We film all of these, and then we put them on our online platform.

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If we can go to the next slide.

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If you end up signing up, then the way we've made it available to people, there are different options.

751
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You can buy the courses, but that's not actually the best way to go.

752
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The best way to go is to subscribe.

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For $14.99 a month or for $149 for the whole year,

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you basically have access to everything that we have online.

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It's kind of like Netflix.

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As long as you subscribe, you have access to everything.

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Once you stop subscribing, you don't have access to anything.

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As long as you subscribe, you have access to everything that's there,

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as well as anything that we develop and then put up during that time.

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Then you can simply subscribe to the courses that are there.

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That means also we're trying to impart a lot of information today,

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and we're not even getting through all of it,

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but you can go back to past seminars and get that same information there.

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Each year, it's slightly different.

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We all have different speakers.

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We touch on things in a slightly different format, so all the resources are there.

767
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Also, the courses that people view the most are Foundations in the Prophetic

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and the Basic Dream Interpretation because that does lay the foundation.

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If you're interested in dream interpretation,

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there's a whole bunch of courses in Dream Life that you can take.

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If you're more interested in just getting more advanced in the prophetic itself,

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we've got Foundations in the Prophetic, Advanced Prophetic,

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and then anything else that you want to take.

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We just want to make that available to you so that there's resources out there for you

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that once you go for BSA, hey, where do I go next, or how do I get started?

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There are places for you to get equipped.

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who go back to your church or you have others

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who are interested, you can point them to a resource.

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And sometimes people will say,

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well, what do you teach in your course?

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And I just tell them, sign up for our course,

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you know, watch the course,

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and you can go through the material,

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and then if you wanna teach it,

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we don't, we really don't suggest

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that you just watch the videos.

787
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It's like, you take the material as a teacher,

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you go through it, you make it your own,

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you contextualize it with your own examples,

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and if you're in a different country, a different culture,

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you know, you just tweak it to the way

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your people will understand it and hear it.

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But that's the best way to know,

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okay, what do you guys teach?

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And you know, how can we equip the people in our community?

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That's the best way to do it.

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If your leaders have any questions about,

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oh, what are you gonna be teaching?

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Or, you know, you can go through this or show them,

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you know, these are some of the foundations that we have.

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So basically, this is a huge resource

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that we're making available to you.

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We've been working on this for the last three, four,

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five years, and we just keep adding to it.

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But we just want you to know about it

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so that you're looking for more resources

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that's available to you.

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All right, we are just gonna take a very short break

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right now, about 10 minutes.

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You can go to the restroom, you can get some more coffee,

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get something to drink, but then be back promptly

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in your seats in 10 minutes,

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because we're gonna have the wonderful Lindsay Ryman.

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All right, God bless you.

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All right.

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♪ He's in the way, he's in the way, he's in the way ♪

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♪ He's in the way, he's in the way, he's in the way ♪