WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:10.260 Hey there, how you doing? Hope you're doing great. Gosh, we are in for a very exciting 2 00:00:10.260 --> 00:00:23.880 night tonight. One of the most powerful messages, I think, in terms of dismantling religious 3 00:00:23.880 --> 00:00:28.840 infrastructure. So I hope you're doing great. Jess Cooper, what a delight to see your beautiful 4 00:00:28.840 --> 00:00:35.640 face. And Joe, welcome back family. Give me a thumbs up or a high five or do some cool 5 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:39.760 move or say hello to say that you're there and then I'll see your name pop up and I'll 6 00:00:39.760 --> 00:00:45.240 know who we've got with us. But great to have you all on board. Aaron, great to have you 7 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:53.680 with us. Jesse, oh, hello, hello. Ruby, great to have you with us. Man, I have Renee, good 8 00:00:53.680 --> 00:01:00.360 to see you. I've been getting such awesome feedback from last night. Radical love encounters 9 00:01:00.360 --> 00:01:07.640 were happening. Come on, Bex, kia ora, kia ora. Alicia, good to have you. But man, I 10 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:13.040 have just been blown away with the feedback from last night. Caroline, good to see you 11 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:20.760 here. Yes, so yeah, give a thumbs up if you're there. Neil, howdy, my man. Good to see you. 12 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:28.480 Thumbs up, Aaron. Boom, kia ora to you. Masterton, oh, so good. Yeah, Bex, great to have you 13 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:34.160 with us for a live film. Man, good to see Greymouth represented. Caroline, awesome to 14 00:01:34.160 --> 00:01:42.000 see you. Yes, Christine, good to have you with us too. We are in for a bundle of fun 15 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:50.400 tonight. Just say, hello, hello, hello, or what do I want to say? I want you to just 16 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:56.800 say, yep, I got a baptism in love or a thumbs up if you had just a fresh, beautiful encounter 17 00:01:56.800 --> 00:02:04.320 with the love of God last night. Peter, my man, good to see you, Pete. Boom, little fist 18 00:02:04.320 --> 00:02:12.640 bump there for you, Peter. Kia ora. Yeah, so thumbs up or like just wow, just a little 19 00:02:12.640 --> 00:02:18.560 like heads up if you had an awesome encounter with the love of God last night. Would be 20 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:26.800 so cool to just hear a little bit. Boom, brother Pete. Choice, brother, good to see you there. 21 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:32.640 Man, I just was amazed with some of the testimonies coming out and some of the messages that I'm 22 00:02:32.640 --> 00:02:38.680 getting from people about how the love of God is rocking your world and I'm so, so happy 23 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:46.160 to hear that. I have got some juicy stuff for you tonight. Tonight's going to be a little 24 00:02:46.160 --> 00:02:55.520 bit different in the sense that, in the sense that tonight, give me a moment here, ladies 25 00:02:55.520 --> 00:03:06.640 and gentlemen. Tonight, we, Neil, good to see you, buddy. Tonight we are going to explore 26 00:03:06.640 --> 00:03:13.760 a major, like a major reformational concept and we're going to go deep. So tonight's a 27 00:03:13.760 --> 00:03:21.440 real teachy night. So this is like reformational stuff that is literally, I think this is literally 28 00:03:21.440 --> 00:03:27.440 going to shock waves through the planet. I've had such phenomenal feedback off this 29 00:03:27.440 --> 00:03:35.600 message everywhere I take it. The message tonight is a sacrifice that reveals the Father. 30 00:03:35.600 --> 00:03:41.320 Now I really appreciated the Q&A. Liza, good to have you if that's how I am supposed to 31 00:03:41.320 --> 00:03:48.320 say it, but it's good to have you with us. So this, this message, a sacrifice that reveals 32 00:03:48.320 --> 00:03:56.000 the Father, oh my gosh, this has really, really had massive impact everywhere where 33 00:03:56.000 --> 00:04:02.640 I've brought it. And it really has a huge power to dismantle religious infrastructure 34 00:04:02.640 --> 00:04:10.240 that veils us from actually seeing an accurate revelation of the Father on the cross. Mate, 35 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:15.680 I'm really excited about it. So what I'd like you to do, we're going to talk a lot about 36 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:20.720 the cross tonight. We're going to jump into that. And so what I'd love you to do just 37 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:24.800 now as well is just chuck out some of the themes that you think, Michelle, good to see 38 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:32.840 you. Chuck down some of the themes that you think the cross is about, because the cross 39 00:04:32.840 --> 00:04:40.080 is so multifaceted and dynamic. It's not just one thing. The cross is about so many things. 40 00:04:40.080 --> 00:04:44.400 So I'd just love you just to chuck down there, chuck in the comments. What do you think the 41 00:04:44.400 --> 00:04:48.960 cross was about? Some of the themes, let's just chuck out themes of what the cross was 42 00:04:48.960 --> 00:04:54.000 about. Things that you are like, yeah, this is a massive part of what the cross is about. 43 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:58.160 I'd love to hear those. We're going to explore them, but let's get some, let's get some chatter 44 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:00.040 happening. So get some chatter going there. 45 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:04.860 Right in the comments. What is the cross about? Holy living beautiful 46 00:05:05.320 --> 00:05:11.240 Anyone else there? Let's let's go cyber world. Hey, you look at that. I'm just doing a little adjustment there 47 00:05:12.200 --> 00:05:17.640 No too much adjusting an ultimate display of love. Yep, beautiful. What are the themes? 48 00:05:18.760 --> 00:05:25.100 This is the cross about you know, the cross is a big deal. So what other themes is the cross trying to communicate? 49 00:05:26.020 --> 00:05:29.420 What else have we got going there guys get those get those fingers walking 50 00:05:30.220 --> 00:05:34.340 An ultimate display of love yet healing us. He took all our sickness away 51 00:05:34.340 --> 00:05:38.440 Yep, so shalom or sozo showing us how much the father loves us. Yes 52 00:05:39.580 --> 00:05:41.020 reclamation restoration 53 00:05:41.020 --> 00:05:47.900 Revelation redemption and reconciliation. Whoa powerful our words coming out freedom father forgiveness yet more forgiveness 54 00:05:47.900 --> 00:05:53.180 Yeah, boom. There's some there's some powerful stuff coming out there. I love it 55 00:05:53.180 --> 00:05:54.940 um 56 00:05:54.940 --> 00:05:59.100 I'm gonna check out a few things as well. So yeah, totally on board with a lot of those things 57 00:05:59.100 --> 00:06:01.100 So a revelation of the father 58 00:06:01.740 --> 00:06:07.840 Hope healing and faithfulness is coming out as well. So yeah a massive theme is a revelation of the father 59 00:06:08.180 --> 00:06:12.620 yeah, a revelation of the Trinity a revelation of our true identity of our sonship a 60 00:06:13.340 --> 00:06:18.620 Revelation of what love looks like Oh Caroline love hugs and salvation beautiful 61 00:06:19.420 --> 00:06:22.180 It's a the cross is a value statement as well 62 00:06:22.980 --> 00:06:29.820 Here's a um, here's a like a juicy but just to start us just to get us off on an awesome start 63 00:06:29.940 --> 00:06:32.060 Here's a real powerful moment for you 64 00:06:33.380 --> 00:06:34.660 a 65 00:06:34.660 --> 00:06:38.820 Powerful moment for you. Is that the cross is a value statement. So 66 00:06:39.900 --> 00:06:42.300 Thanks, Christine surrenderance. That's a good word 67 00:06:44.540 --> 00:06:46.540 The cross is a value statement 68 00:06:46.540 --> 00:06:53.460 So if the value of something is determined by how much someone is willing to pay for that item 69 00:06:54.100 --> 00:06:55.340 then 70 00:06:55.340 --> 00:07:03.300 the cross has a lot to say as far as a value statement about humanity a value statement about you a value statement about 71 00:07:04.220 --> 00:07:05.980 myself, so 72 00:07:05.980 --> 00:07:07.780 if 73 00:07:07.780 --> 00:07:14.220 The price or the value of something is determined by how much someone is willing to pay for something then the cross is a value 74 00:07:14.220 --> 00:07:22.260 statement about how much you are worth about what your value is about what your identity is about and the true value and the 75 00:07:22.260 --> 00:07:23.900 Worth of who you are 76 00:07:23.900 --> 00:07:28.980 Jesus put the value of who you are. He put your value. He kind of forever 77 00:07:29.700 --> 00:07:36.740 Inscribed your value on the cross. He remarked it in history what the value of each individual is worth and when he said 78 00:07:36.740 --> 00:07:38.740 I'm willing to give my own 79 00:07:38.740 --> 00:07:39.820 life 80 00:07:39.820 --> 00:07:44.460 To demonstrate how precious how valuable you are. So boom 81 00:07:44.460 --> 00:07:49.580 There's a big one a value statement that actually communicates your identity that you are worth the same 82 00:07:49.620 --> 00:07:53.160 You have the same value to God you're worth more to God 83 00:07:53.900 --> 00:07:56.100 You're worth more to God than his own life 84 00:07:56.220 --> 00:08:02.860 How's that for a moment a beautiful moment about the cross the cross is a value statement that states that you're worth more 85 00:08:03.340 --> 00:08:06.140 to God than the value of 86 00:08:07.060 --> 00:08:08.820 his own 87 00:08:08.820 --> 00:08:15.380 Life, but that's massive. How's that for you? I give a thumbs up if you like that juicy one. I think that's amazing 88 00:08:16.020 --> 00:08:20.940 Some others some other themes that the cross is about the cross is about sacrifice 89 00:08:21.940 --> 00:08:23.500 Humility, we're getting good stuff here 90 00:08:23.500 --> 00:08:28.660 I mean, it shows how far God will go to show how much he loves us and how much he values us. Awesome 91 00:08:29.220 --> 00:08:34.059 How much are you worth? Oh, come on. Yeah, that's awesome Peter good feedback there 92 00:08:35.260 --> 00:08:37.900 So yeah, the cross is about a sacrifice 93 00:08:38.500 --> 00:08:43.100 The cross is a revelation of truth that completely frees us from sin 94 00:08:43.179 --> 00:08:48.140 The cross is about the death putting to death or accusation and condemnation 95 00:08:48.140 --> 00:08:53.580 The cross is about putting to death the sinful nature and the list just goes on and on and on 96 00:08:54.220 --> 00:09:00.780 Leone good to have you with us. There's so much that the cross communicates. It's multifaceted. The cross is like a diamond 97 00:09:01.380 --> 00:09:06.380 There's all these different dynamics and beautiful dynamics to the cross that keep on 98 00:09:06.580 --> 00:09:08.060 Just it's like a diamond 99 00:09:08.060 --> 00:09:13.860 There's just more and more and more to be reflected to be seen to be discovered as we study the cross 100 00:09:13.860 --> 00:09:19.820 So hey Rosa good to have you with us. So that's a great thing to realize that the cross is just multifaceted 101 00:09:19.820 --> 00:09:23.180 there's so much about it for us to explore and 102 00:09:23.820 --> 00:09:27.900 I'm going to explore one of those one of those themes tonight of 103 00:09:28.860 --> 00:09:33.180 Sacrifice. Yep reborn deliverance eternal life. All that stuff is good. I 104 00:09:34.180 --> 00:09:38.140 Think guys, I think I'm just gonna tweak that. I think I can tweak this 105 00:09:39.060 --> 00:09:43.700 There we go. That's good to kneel. Good to have you joining us 106 00:09:44.420 --> 00:09:45.980 so 107 00:09:45.980 --> 00:09:53.780 Let's um, let's start. Let's start tonight with a story who likes stories. Yeah, I hope you like stories 108 00:09:53.780 --> 00:09:57.100 Let's start with a story from Luke 15 109 00:09:57.700 --> 00:09:59.860 Luke 15 so I'm just a 110 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:09.120 phenomenal chapter. Luke 15 is also a chapter that's really got some amazing value statements 111 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:19.760 in there. Luke 15 starts with, Luke 15 starts with Jesus in the context of these Pharisees 112 00:10:19.760 --> 00:10:24.880 and these Pharisees are judging Jesus, right? They're like, yeah Jesus is totally, they're 113 00:10:25.280 --> 00:10:29.920 judging him, they're coming down on him, they're berating him, they're bad-mouthing him, 114 00:10:29.920 --> 00:10:37.280 and they're having this conversation and they go, oh my gosh, like that Jesus, he even eats, 115 00:10:37.280 --> 00:10:43.840 he even eats with sinners, that Jesus, that Jesus eats with sinners. And so Jesus has got this 116 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:51.600 ultimate comeback. Jesus has this ultimate comeback to destroy, absolutely destroy the 117 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:56.400 foundation of their religious mindsets and paradigms that they're operating from, which 118 00:10:56.400 --> 00:11:00.160 is cool. So we're going to get into that. I'm going to pray first now and we're just going to 119 00:11:00.160 --> 00:11:08.480 get some glory flowing and some holy ghost moving around and get some love baptism happening right 120 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:16.160 now. I hope you loved Ephesians 3 last night where Paul said that the foundation of our, whoa, 121 00:11:16.160 --> 00:11:20.880 I can just feel his presence just blasting me right now, the foundation of our Christian 122 00:11:20.880 --> 00:11:26.960 experience, oh wow, is supposed to be, we're supposed to be founded and grounded on this 123 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:32.480 experience of the heights and the depths and the woods and the breadth of this supernatural 124 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:37.120 experiential baptism into the love of God. So let's start there and then we're going to jump 125 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:45.200 into this epic night tonight. Trinity, wow. Trinity, we just want to say thank you. 126 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:54.880 Oh, I'm just receiving such a delightful, blissful, wonderful baptism in the presence 127 00:11:54.880 --> 00:12:01.200 right now. And Trinity, oh, we give you all the glory. We give you all the honor. We give you 128 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:08.240 all the praise. Our hearts explode with delight in you. Everything about you that's true causes 129 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:14.240 us to delight in you. Everything about you that is true causes our hearts to explode and just 130 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:19.920 to be overwhelmed and to overflow with delight and bliss and awe and ecstasy and wonder. 131 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:28.000 Wow. And so we just want to give you, give you our delight tonight. We just want to express 132 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:32.800 our delight. We want to be so intentional about honoring you and declaring our delight in you 133 00:12:32.800 --> 00:12:38.160 and declaring our love for you and declaring that we are in awe and wonder of who you are. 134 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:46.240 Oh, wow. Wow. We love you. We just welcome you to flood every, every person's entire body, 135 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:51.840 soul, and spirit. Every person that can hear my words. Wow. Right now, I thank you for a deluge 136 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:57.360 in the bliss of the Trinity. Wow. I thank you for swallowing them up in the dance of the Trinity. 137 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:03.520 Even now there's powerful encounters being released. Powerful encounters with the love 138 00:13:03.520 --> 00:13:10.560 of the Trinity being released like explosions right now. Whoa. Explosions of love. Explosions 139 00:13:10.560 --> 00:13:18.400 of love. Explosions of love exploding out right now. Oh, wow. It's a wave of this baptism of the 140 00:13:18.400 --> 00:13:23.760 love of the Trinity being released right now. And Holy Spirit, we thank you that as we journey 141 00:13:23.760 --> 00:13:28.800 through this together, that you're just bringing more and more revelation to us about your love. 142 00:13:28.800 --> 00:13:33.280 You're softening our hearts like never before. I just thank you. I declare right now that even 143 00:13:33.280 --> 00:13:40.560 right now as I say this, the Trinity is decimating everything that restricts or inhibits people to 144 00:13:40.560 --> 00:13:46.160 receive love. He is bringing down the walls. He is breaking down those barriers. He's bringing 145 00:13:46.160 --> 00:13:52.320 down the restrictions so that we can receive divine love perfectly. Whoa. And we can give 146 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:58.320 perfect expression to divine love. So I say release the wave of your fire. Your fiery love right now 147 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:04.400 that breaks down every wall and every barrier that would restrict us from receiving love. Whoa. 148 00:14:04.400 --> 00:14:14.160 I just thank you, Papa. Just unleash it in Jesus' name. Wow. Boom. Yeah. May that love just blast 149 00:14:14.160 --> 00:14:18.800 you. Go deep. We're called to be baptized in it, marinated in it as a state of being. 150 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:25.840 One exciting thing as well. Tomorrow, I'm going to release all the information about... 151 00:14:26.800 --> 00:14:32.640 I'm going to release all the information about jumping on board with the full 12-week school, 152 00:14:32.640 --> 00:14:36.240 how you can get on board with that. I'm going to release all the information tomorrow about 153 00:14:36.880 --> 00:14:46.160 the scholarships. I'm releasing $14,970 worth of scholarships. Whoa. Wow. It feels good to 154 00:14:46.160 --> 00:14:52.800 be generous. I'm trying to be really, really generous. So I'm releasing $14,970 worth of 155 00:14:52.800 --> 00:14:56.720 scholarships tomorrow. And I'm going to give a whole lot of 156 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:59.840 information tomorrow about how you can jump on board. And it is... 157 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:04.400 It's gonna go next level the value that I'm bringing to you as I've shared this 158 00:15:04.400 --> 00:15:07.480 opportunity with people about what I'm planning to bring people are blown away 159 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:11.000 with the value they're like oh my gosh and you're gonna get blown away tomorrow 160 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:14.480 when I share with you about this opportunity to jump on board for the 12 161 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:19.440 week school so that's gonna be wild but right now it is time for a message I 162 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:25.280 call either a sacrifice that reveals the father or the superior sacrifice which 163 00:15:25.280 --> 00:15:31.760 is just phenomenal and so to start we're going to start with the good father so 164 00:15:31.760 --> 00:15:40.340 the good father or the story in Luke 15 it starts with these these religious 165 00:15:40.340 --> 00:15:45.080 people judging Jesus judging judging how he has been hanging out with these 166 00:15:45.080 --> 00:15:49.400 sinners and then Jesus kind of flips the table on them completely and he's he 167 00:15:49.400 --> 00:15:53.680 tells the story about the lost coin isn't this amazing the story of the lost 168 00:15:53.680 --> 00:15:57.600 key coin and I was chatting with Papa Dean about this just last week and he 169 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:00.520 was sharing of sharing with this and we're in good court at all about Luke 170 00:16:00.520 --> 00:16:07.160 15 but the lost coin Jesus tells us caught this story to Pharisees who are 171 00:16:07.160 --> 00:16:10.160 judging him religious people who are judging him for hanging out with 172 00:16:10.160 --> 00:16:14.120 pre-believers and he and he tells the story of the lost coin but the awesome 173 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:17.720 thing about the lost coin is that the lost coin has the same value when it's 174 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:22.160 lost as it does when it's found that's why Jesus used that story of the lost 175 00:16:22.160 --> 00:16:26.800 coin because just like you you had the same value to him or the same worth or 176 00:16:26.800 --> 00:16:32.140 the same substance or the same identity in his eyes when you were lost as when 177 00:16:32.140 --> 00:16:36.320 you were found and Jesus goes on to tell a story of the lost son and there's the 178 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:46.160 lost sheep and he leaves the 99 and goes after the lost sheep and he leaves sorry 179 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:56.480 mate I just had a little technical thing there jump up and scare me so with the 180 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:00.040 story of the lost son Jesus tells this amazing story of the lost son the son 181 00:17:00.040 --> 00:17:04.800 has done everything possible that you can imagine in that culture just to be 182 00:17:04.800 --> 00:17:09.980 like a bad dude he is like the ultimate villain in that story but also the 183 00:17:09.980 --> 00:17:13.200 father's a real villain that story well actually you can check that further out 184 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:18.240 in my book the good father but the son is just the mega villain he does 185 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:21.700 everything he can to disrespect the family he walks all over it's like the 186 00:17:21.700 --> 00:17:26.880 ultimate sin disrespects the father like crazy and then runs off and he wastes 187 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:31.200 the family wealth and this son is like you know and the brother says he's 188 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:36.160 wasting all the inheritance on prostitutes and wild living and chaos so 189 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:39.840 it's he's personifying every type of failure that you could have ever had you 190 00:17:39.840 --> 00:17:44.480 know I actually have a friend who did that same thing actually got asked 191 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:48.920 his father for his inheritance beforehand to put it into a business 192 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:53.720 deal and then the business deal went bottoms up and he actually lost all the 193 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:59.680 inheritance so just like the the lost son in a sense so but then what you see 194 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:04.040 at the end right after the son's done everything that he could possibly do to 195 00:18:04.040 --> 00:18:07.840 be a bad guy and that that son represents you and I everything he 196 00:18:07.840 --> 00:18:14.160 everything that we could possibly have ever done to fail to stuff up to offend 197 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:19.960 God to sin that son represents it and he represents humanity one thing that's 198 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:24.720 amazing is that Jesus refers to the son as a son the entire story he's never not 199 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:28.360 a son even when he's in his like in his worst moment even when he's in his 200 00:18:28.360 --> 00:18:32.280 darkest moment the son is always referred to as a son and then you know 201 00:18:32.280 --> 00:18:36.520 what how the father relates to the son even in the sons darkness even in the 202 00:18:36.520 --> 00:18:41.000 son coming back covered in shame covered in condemnation and self-hatred 203 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:46.320 and just like he has been through the muck literally and he stinks like a pig 204 00:18:46.320 --> 00:18:53.000 and the father runs to it let me check something there for a moment I hope 205 00:18:53.000 --> 00:19:00.200 that hope that's better and if I was glitching then then just give me a 206 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:07.760 thumbs up if we're good to go if we if we're cruising along nicely now how we 207 00:19:07.760 --> 00:19:10.840 doing there someone give me a thumbs up if we're all if we're all good I just 208 00:19:10.840 --> 00:19:14.400 got a message saying we were glitching a little bit but yeah boom we got some 209 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:19.080 thumbs up we're going well okay sweet so that son he personifies humanity he 210 00:19:19.080 --> 00:19:24.120 personifies me he personifies you as he's running back to the father now this 211 00:19:24.120 --> 00:19:28.280 is so critical theologically thanks for all those thumbs up boom I think we're 212 00:19:28.280 --> 00:19:35.240 sweet primo that's good to know this son represents represents humanity Jesus 213 00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:39.320 identifies the son as a son even in his darkness that's so important to 214 00:19:39.320 --> 00:19:45.520 recognize that we don't lose our sonship yeah even if we don't believe in ourselves 215 00:19:45.520 --> 00:19:48.640 even if we don't believe in our own identity if we don't believe in our own 216 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:52.960 sonship God believes in us before we believe in him the truth is the truth 217 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:57.160 before we believe it which is awesome news for us so the thing that's really 218 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:01.880 critical here is to notice the nature of the father 219 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:04.500 To see the response of the father as the son comes back in all his sin. 220 00:20:04.500 --> 00:20:09.200 The father runs to him. The father wraps him up in an embrace. 221 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:16.000 The father embraces him and the father isn't, for one moment, concerned with punishing the son for his sin. 222 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:18.200 The father isn't concerned for one moment. 223 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:23.700 I'm like, oh my gosh, I've got to have a sacrifice now to pay the price for this kid's sins. 224 00:20:23.700 --> 00:20:28.800 The father isn't like, oh my gosh, I really have to punish this son 225 00:20:28.800 --> 00:20:31.300 because someone has to pay the price for these sins. 226 00:20:31.300 --> 00:20:36.500 So that's really critical to just see because what Jesus is doing in that story 227 00:20:36.500 --> 00:20:40.900 is he's revealing the nature of the father because that's the number one purpose of Jesus' ministry 228 00:20:40.900 --> 00:20:43.000 is always to reveal the nature of the father. 229 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:47.900 So in that story, he's revealing the nature of the father and it's so important that I start with that 230 00:20:47.900 --> 00:20:53.100 because when it comes to the cross and our interpretations of the cross, 231 00:20:53.100 --> 00:20:59.100 the story of the good father and the cross have to be in perfect harmony. 232 00:20:59.100 --> 00:21:03.100 What a lot of people have, the way they've interpreted the cross, 233 00:21:03.100 --> 00:21:07.500 is that Jesus has this amazing ministry of revealing the father the whole time 234 00:21:07.500 --> 00:21:09.800 and Jesus is effortlessly forgiving sin. 235 00:21:09.800 --> 00:21:12.500 He's not worried about punishing people for sins at all. 236 00:21:12.500 --> 00:21:14.700 He is constantly cancelling debt. 237 00:21:14.700 --> 00:21:16.800 He's constantly forgiving sin effortlessly. 238 00:21:16.800 --> 00:21:20.600 He's like, hey, be free from sin, be free, be free. 239 00:21:20.600 --> 00:21:25.800 With the woman in adultery, he just cancels it and he says, neither do I condemn you. 240 00:21:25.800 --> 00:21:30.500 He's not looking for any sacrifice or anything like that to be done. 241 00:21:30.500 --> 00:21:33.400 He's just effortlessly forgiving them. 242 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:35.100 And the same with the good father. 243 00:21:35.100 --> 00:21:38.700 He just effortlessly forgives the son, wraps him up in love, 244 00:21:38.700 --> 00:21:42.200 and it's all about cancelling his sin and putting his sin to death 245 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:46.300 and nulling his sin and wiping his sin away 246 00:21:46.300 --> 00:21:48.800 and saying, hey, you're actually defined by me. 247 00:21:48.800 --> 00:21:54.900 And that's what giving the son the ring and the robe and the sandals is all about, 248 00:21:54.900 --> 00:21:56.500 restoring his identity. 249 00:21:56.500 --> 00:21:58.000 Boom, beautiful. 250 00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:00.900 So what we want to make sure when we're interpreting the cross 251 00:22:00.900 --> 00:22:06.200 is that the story of the good father and the story of the cross are in perfect harmony 252 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:10.400 because otherwise what starts to happen is we start to get a bipolar father. 253 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:15.500 So we want to ensure that the story of the good father 254 00:22:15.500 --> 00:22:20.700 and the story of the cross are in perfect harmony. 255 00:22:20.700 --> 00:22:24.000 Sweet. So I hope that sits well with you. 256 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:24.800 We're going to get into this. 257 00:22:24.800 --> 00:22:26.800 I've got some pretty ultimate notes. 258 00:22:26.800 --> 00:22:29.200 I'm not going to release these notes to you just yet. 259 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:30.000 They're getting close. 260 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:34.000 This is some of the behind-the-scenes, behind-the-veils stuff 261 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:40.100 from my upcoming book, Back to Eden, the Bliss of Sonship. 262 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:48.800 But we're going to zone in now to really look at the Hebrew culture of the day. 263 00:22:48.800 --> 00:22:54.200 We're going into where John the Baptist, the day of John the Baptist, 264 00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:56.800 the day of Jesus, before Jesus has really hit the scene, 265 00:22:56.800 --> 00:23:01.000 but the scene that Jesus is walking into at that time. 266 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:06.400 So they've had the law of Moses for 1470-odd years. 267 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:11.700 So it's about 1470-odd years since Moses received the law, 268 00:23:11.700 --> 00:23:15.800 to John the Baptist standing there in that day. 269 00:23:15.800 --> 00:23:18.300 He's about to prophesy about Jesus. 270 00:23:18.300 --> 00:23:21.300 So let's think about this. 271 00:23:21.300 --> 00:23:26.100 For that whole 1400 years, 272 00:23:26.100 --> 00:23:32.900 there's not one moment where anyone's sins have been totally, 273 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:36.900 where anyone's conscience has been cleansed from sin. 274 00:23:36.900 --> 00:23:41.000 Let me just read you a few verses to try to help paint a picture 275 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:48.400 of how the religious system of the law left people. 276 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:50.000 You know, it was a system rigged to fail. 277 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:52.000 People are caught up in this religious system, 278 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:53.900 just constantly going through all this work, 279 00:23:53.900 --> 00:23:56.800 constantly sacrificing, constantly doing all these things, 280 00:23:56.800 --> 00:23:59.700 constantly attempting and trying to be enough and to do enough, 281 00:23:59.700 --> 00:24:01.100 but constantly failing. 282 00:24:01.100 --> 00:24:04.000 And the sacrifices themselves completely failed. 283 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:07.800 So the people remain sin conscious and not son conscious. 284 00:24:07.800 --> 00:24:10.900 The cross is about empowering us to step out of sin consciousness 285 00:24:10.900 --> 00:24:12.800 and step into son consciousness. 286 00:24:12.800 --> 00:24:14.400 But if we misinterpret the cross, 287 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:20.500 we remain sin conscious and we don't discover son consciousness. 288 00:24:20.500 --> 00:24:24.800 Let me read. I'm going to read a lot from the book of Hebrews tonight 289 00:24:24.800 --> 00:24:29.400 because there's no better book to explore this concept 290 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:33.400 of a sacrifice that reveals the Father than the book of Hebrews. 291 00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:34.800 Okay, so we're going to talk more about that. 292 00:24:34.800 --> 00:24:41.100 We're going to jump into this book, the book of Hebrews a lot tonight. 293 00:24:41.100 --> 00:24:45.600 So the book of Hebrews is a book of contrast. 294 00:24:45.600 --> 00:24:48.800 All right, it contrasts the Old Testament with the new. 295 00:24:48.800 --> 00:24:53.200 It contrasts Mount Sinai with Mount Zion. 296 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:55.900 It contrasts Hagar with Sarah. 297 00:24:55.900 --> 00:24:59.900 It contrasts the Old Testament sacrifice with the New Testament. 298 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:05.240 sacrifice and one of the major points and the major themes is to reveal that Jesus is 299 00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:09.760 a superior sacrifice to anything that they've ever seen in the Old Testament. 300 00:25:09.760 --> 00:25:16.560 So let's just check out some of these verses, Hebrews 7, 18-19, it's talking about the law. 301 00:25:16.560 --> 00:25:23.760 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless, for the law made 302 00:25:23.760 --> 00:25:29.680 nothing perfect, and a better hope is introduced by which we draw near to God. 303 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:30.680 How's that? 304 00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:36.200 That's a big call right there, the author of Hebrews is saying the law, it was set aside 305 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:41.000 because it was weak and useless, that's a big call, and then Hebrews 8, 13 says, by 306 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:47.720 calling this covenant new, he has made the first one obsolete, and what is obsolete and 307 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:50.800 outdated will soon disappear. 308 00:25:50.800 --> 00:25:56.600 Hebrews 8, verse 6, it says, but in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior 309 00:25:56.600 --> 00:26:02.480 to theirs as the covenant of which he is a mediator is superior to the old one since 310 00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:06.520 the new covenant is established on better promises. 311 00:26:06.520 --> 00:26:12.680 Hebrews 9, 15, for this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant that those who 312 00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:17.680 are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance now that he has died as a ransom 313 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:20.400 to set them free from sin. 314 00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:24.720 And then Hebrews 10, the last one in this line up of verses, for by one sacrifice he 315 00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:27.960 has made perfect forever those who are being made holy. 316 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:33.440 We're going to look at a couple more, okay, we're going to look at a couple more and what 317 00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:37.760 I want you to see is we're setting the scene for what the religious system, the religious 318 00:26:37.760 --> 00:26:43.200 landscape looked like for the average person under the law in those days. 319 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:49.560 Hebrews 9, 9, this is an illustration at the present time indicating that the gifts and 320 00:26:49.560 --> 00:26:55.280 sacrifices being offered were not able to clear the conscience of the worshipper. 321 00:26:55.280 --> 00:27:03.360 Oh my gosh, so with all the years of the law, over 1400 years of the law under Moses, not 322 00:27:03.360 --> 00:27:08.480 one single person ever had their conscience cleansed from sin by a sacrifice. 323 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:10.160 Those sacrifices couldn't do it. 324 00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:14.840 Hebrews 9, 14 says, how much more then will the blood of Christ who through the eternal 325 00:27:14.840 --> 00:27:20.320 spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead 326 00:27:20.320 --> 00:27:22.520 to death so that we may serve the living God. 327 00:27:22.520 --> 00:27:24.080 So there's a contrast there. 328 00:27:24.080 --> 00:27:34.320 And then Hebrews 10, 3 to 4, but those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins. 329 00:27:34.320 --> 00:27:39.000 And then check this out, Hebrews 10, 11, day after day, every priest stands and performs 330 00:27:39.080 --> 00:27:45.520 his religious duties again and again, he offers the same sacrifices which can never take away 331 00:27:45.520 --> 00:27:46.520 sins. 332 00:27:46.520 --> 00:27:47.520 What? 333 00:27:47.520 --> 00:27:48.520 That's crazy. 334 00:27:48.520 --> 00:27:53.040 The author of Hebrews is saying that every day the priests are offering these sacrifices, 335 00:27:53.040 --> 00:27:57.440 they're offering these sacrifices, they have no capacity whatsoever to cleanse the conscience 336 00:27:57.440 --> 00:27:58.440 of sin. 337 00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:03.120 And he's really specific, the author of Hebrews says that they have no capacity whatsoever 338 00:28:03.120 --> 00:28:04.960 to take away sins. 339 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:09.160 Okay, so now that is like the big point that I want to make. 340 00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:14.320 Out of all the law, out of all the blood sacrifices, out of everything that they did, they never 341 00:28:14.320 --> 00:28:18.080 once took away one sin from one person. 342 00:28:18.080 --> 00:28:21.000 Those sacrifices didn't have the capacity to take away sin. 343 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:24.200 Okay, now I've got you where I want you. 344 00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:32.320 Because in that space where for over 1,400 years, everyone has lived sin conscious. 345 00:28:32.320 --> 00:28:37.160 For 1,400 years, everyone lives with the expectation that they're bound to sin. 346 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:39.760 Everyone lives with the expectations that they're going to go through all these religious 347 00:28:39.760 --> 00:28:43.840 rituals and all this religious stuff, but it's never going to produce freedom. 348 00:28:43.840 --> 00:28:47.640 So they've made friends with living in shame and condemnation and isolation. 349 00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:49.160 No one's ever been set free from sin. 350 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:53.080 They're not expecting to, they just think, okay, you can't get free from sin. 351 00:28:53.080 --> 00:29:00.200 Which in some places is actually, you get that mindset in a lot of churches nowadays. 352 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:01.280 So that's what it's like. 353 00:29:01.280 --> 00:29:07.560 And now John the Baptist comes on the scene, 470 odd years after Moses, and he does something 354 00:29:07.560 --> 00:29:13.400 that is absolutely radical and the greatest reformational act that I believe has ever 355 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:14.880 taken place in history. 356 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:19.600 This move that John brought on, that it was greater than Wittenberg, and this is such 357 00:29:19.600 --> 00:29:20.640 a massive moment. 358 00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:30.000 He prophesies in John 1 29, behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. 359 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:31.000 That's massive. 360 00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:32.720 Behold, the Lamb of God. 361 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:34.400 It's that sacrificial language. 362 00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:40.560 So he's acknowledging, okay, Jesus is a sacrifice, some type of sacrifice to do with sin. 363 00:29:40.560 --> 00:29:45.880 So we get that, and we get real confused with this concept that Jesus is a sacrifice to 364 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:50.280 deal with sin, and we kind of fuse that. 365 00:29:50.280 --> 00:29:55.280 What we do is we end up fusing this concept that Jesus is a sacrifice for sin with the 366 00:29:55.280 --> 00:29:58.800 Old Testament form of sacrifice for sin. 367 00:29:58.800 --> 00:29:59.960 So say, say with me. 368 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:05.040 now say propitiation if you can type it in there say propitiation we'll see who can spell it right 369 00:30:05.040 --> 00:30:10.160 but try and type in there propitiation or give me a thumbs up uh say propitiation i want you to 370 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:16.320 engage with this thought of propitiation it's a big long theological word but it has immense value 371 00:30:16.320 --> 00:30:21.680 where we're going tonight robert good to see you my man so propitiation let's get that down jot that 372 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:28.560 down propitiation it's a big word but propitiation the whole old testament was based on propitiatory 373 00:30:28.560 --> 00:30:34.800 sacrifices so when the author of hebrews is saying these sacrifices were useless to take away sins 374 00:30:34.800 --> 00:30:41.600 good work phil good work to neil great spelling you guys have got this down um he the old testament 375 00:30:41.600 --> 00:30:45.440 the author of hebrews when he's talking about the old testament he's referring to propitiatory sin 376 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:51.760 so a propitiation nice alicia a propitiation is for example let me give you a good story 377 00:30:51.760 --> 00:30:59.760 about a a propitiation story um i've got a i've got a great letter that i found here it's really 378 00:30:59.760 --> 00:31:05.520 funny uh you'll love this cheers good you guys have got that down um so here's a letter and 379 00:31:05.520 --> 00:31:11.520 this letter indicates uh what a propitiatory action looks like so it's written by a young 380 00:31:11.520 --> 00:31:18.080 kid to his brother it says to the best brother ever i'm very sorry now i'm just reading it as 381 00:31:18.080 --> 00:31:24.080 it's written i think there might be a couple of spelling mistakes just maybe but here we go uh 382 00:31:24.080 --> 00:31:30.560 i'm very sorry that i pinched your nuts i'm so glad that i'm so sad that i feel the pain 383 00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:37.280 i know that this note won't completely make it up for you so here's one dollar all for you 384 00:31:38.560 --> 00:31:43.680 i know it doesn't make the pain go away and i can't put a band-aid on it you wouldn't be able 385 00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:48.880 to pee i hope you're better in the morning buddy love from zach 386 00:31:51.840 --> 00:31:57.760 um that's pretty funny uh let me give you another example of a propitiatory story 387 00:31:57.760 --> 00:32:04.000 um i saw uh i saw when i was looking up stories here there was a story yes i love that story 388 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:09.280 it's pretty hilarious uh there was a story about someone and they they got a cake and this cake on 389 00:32:09.280 --> 00:32:16.800 the icing on it said i'm so sorry that i projectile vomited all over your apartment and 390 00:32:16.800 --> 00:32:26.160 cat so those are examples of propitiatory actions a propitiatory action is if i cause the offense 391 00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:33.120 say i uh say i'm the one that projectile vomited over the apartment and cat i i cause the offense 392 00:32:33.120 --> 00:32:38.640 and then if i'm the one that brings the cake i'm the one that initiates the reconciliation 393 00:32:39.280 --> 00:32:42.000 yeah that's a bit funny you can give a thumbs up if you like those stories 394 00:32:43.360 --> 00:32:47.920 i love those stories i find them awesome but that's propitiation so in the old testament 395 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.880 that's how it was in the old testament they would uh they cause an issue so humanity caused this 396 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:58.160 issue the israelites were causing issues and then they are having these sacrifices to initiate 397 00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:03.600 reconciliation initiate reconnection with god um and they're just going over and over and over 398 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:10.560 i thought you would like that stuff um so a propitiatory action is if you cause the offense 399 00:33:10.560 --> 00:33:17.200 you initiate the reconciliation okay jot that down that's critical to understanding if you 400 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:23.360 in propitiation if you cause the offense you initiate the reconciliation so when the author 401 00:33:23.360 --> 00:33:27.200 of hebrews is talking about the old testament sacrifices and saying that they're weak and 402 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:32.240 useless saying that they've got no capacity cleans the conscience from sin saying that uh 403 00:33:33.040 --> 00:33:37.760 yeah that they're going to be obsolete he was talking about propitiatory sacrifices now you're 404 00:33:37.760 --> 00:33:41.520 going to hold that thought because we're going deep and you need that frame of reference to 405 00:33:41.520 --> 00:33:47.200 understand where we are going because the book of hebrews right as i've said is a book of contrast 406 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:51.760 so the book of hebrews is laying this foundation so that we can grasp the concept 407 00:33:51.760 --> 00:33:56.080 that there's a massive difference between the propitiatory sacrifices 408 00:33:56.080 --> 00:34:00.480 of the old testament and a brand new type of sacrifice 409 00:34:03.120 --> 00:34:08.560 good stuff phil there's a difference between the propitiatory sacrifice of the old testament 410 00:34:08.560 --> 00:34:14.560 and a brand new type of sacrifice in the in the new testament so the propitiatory sacrifices 411 00:34:14.560 --> 00:34:21.040 couldn't take away sin so when john the baptist prophesied behold the lamb of god who takes away 412 00:34:21.040 --> 00:34:26.960 the sin of the world the these guys wouldn't get it they didn't get it that was radically radically 413 00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:33.600 reformational because for over 1700 years no sacrifice had ever taken away sin and now john 414 00:34:33.600 --> 00:34:40.400 the baptist comes on the stage and he says behold the lamb of god this is about a sacrifice a type 415 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:45.920 of sacrifice that can take away sin so they immediately go no way no sacrifice can take 416 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:50.800 away sin sacrifices don't work they're weak and useless they have no capacity to cleanse 417 00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:55.360 our conscience they can't take away sin we just live with it we just deal with it we expect to 418 00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:59.760 live in sin we have no hope that we can live free from sin we have no hope that we can live a sinless 419 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.800 but then it goes on and John the Baptist actually says who can take who takes 420 00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:10.440 away the sin of the world and the Greek word for world is cosmos whoa so that's 421 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:15.720 cosmos that's everything behold the Lamb of God one sacrifice just one sacrifice 422 00:35:15.720 --> 00:35:22.520 that is going to take away completely remove and null delete end expiate 423 00:35:22.520 --> 00:35:27.640 annihilate every sin in the entire cosmos what you're gonna think about 424 00:35:27.640 --> 00:35:31.880 this for 1700 plus years every generation is believed that they can't 425 00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:35.740 get free from sin that they've got to do all these sacrifices that are a system 426 00:35:35.740 --> 00:35:39.560 rigged to fail they never produce freedom they never produce sin like 427 00:35:39.560 --> 00:35:44.200 freedom from sin they just leave you sin bound sin conscious John the Baptist 428 00:35:44.200 --> 00:35:48.880 turns up with the greatest reformational prophecy that I believe has ever been 429 00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:54.120 made and he says behold the Lamb of God one sacrifice one sacrifice that takes 430 00:35:54.120 --> 00:35:59.600 away expiates annihilates eliminates eradicates every sin in the entire 431 00:35:59.600 --> 00:36:06.000 cosmos whoa now that's crazy that is a crazy like just give me a thumbs up or 432 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:12.080 like a ho whoa or something if you think that's a wild concept that is massive 433 00:36:12.080 --> 00:36:21.600 that is huge and so the book of Hebrews the book of Hebrews is anticipating 434 00:36:21.600 --> 00:36:25.840 trying what the book of Hebrews is trying to do is trying to take on this 435 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:30.400 challenge of unpacking the most reformational statement in the whole 436 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:37.440 Bible I think which is that Jesus came to take away the sin of the cosmos so 437 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:42.440 the Old Testament boom no you're not free from sin New Testament boom you're 438 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.560 free from sin because of a brand new type of sacrifice and so the book of 439 00:36:46.560 --> 00:36:51.080 Hebrews cheers fellas the book of Hebrews is trying to explain to us trying to 440 00:36:51.080 --> 00:36:56.440 help us uncover and discover what type of sacrifice Jesus is because he's 441 00:36:56.440 --> 00:37:00.120 totally different to the Old Testament yes he's a sacrifice but he's totally 442 00:37:00.120 --> 00:37:04.400 different he's a different type of sacrifice to every sacrifice that's ever 443 00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:08.600 been before him and we have to see that's what the book of Hebrews is about 444 00:37:08.600 --> 00:37:14.320 the funny thing is is that we have lenses and all our church fathers that 445 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:19.440 have gone before us have lenses religious lenses that they interpret the 446 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:23.440 Bible through and they translated I tell you what all of our translators 447 00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:27.880 translated the Bible through a particular lens now one of the crazy 448 00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:32.160 things about our church fathers and I'm gonna take a little detour and then I'm 449 00:37:32.160 --> 00:37:36.720 gonna come back here and then boom we're gonna smash it home our church fathers 450 00:37:36.720 --> 00:37:41.400 so many of our church fathers never knew the father they never knew the love of 451 00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:45.200 the father they didn't know a baptism in the love of the Trinity if you jump with 452 00:37:45.200 --> 00:37:49.520 me into the 12-week school of sonship we'll go back 2,000 years and cover this 453 00:37:49.520 --> 00:37:53.760 all the way back but for now I'm just going to take on one really famous 454 00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:58.360 church father and just give you a little insight into his world to help you see 455 00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:02.160 that he did not have a revelation of the love of the father they didn't 456 00:38:02.160 --> 00:38:06.400 understand what it meant to be baptized in the bliss of the Trinity and so they 457 00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:12.960 interpreted the gospel through this faulty image of the this faulty faulty 458 00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:17.720 of God and when you interpret the gospel through a false image of God you get a 459 00:38:17.720 --> 00:38:21.680 distorted interpretation of the gospel and what happened with our church 460 00:38:21.680 --> 00:38:26.920 fathers so many of them is they just interpret they didn't get the father so 461 00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:29.600 they never got the purpose of the cross they never got the meaning of the cross 462 00:38:29.600 --> 00:38:36.320 they never understood what this new they never understood what this new this new 463 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:43.000 sacrifice was like so they looked at the they looked at the Old Testament 464 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:46.560 sacrifices and tried to interpret the cross as though it was a propitiatory 465 00:38:46.560 --> 00:38:51.760 Old Testament sacrifice and when you do that if you try and interpret the cross 466 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:56.280 as a propitiatory sacrifice you can kiss goodbye to the revelation of the father 467 00:38:56.280 --> 00:39:00.240 you'll never see the father if you look through a lens of propitiation you'll 468 00:39:00.240 --> 00:39:04.280 never see his love you'll never dance with the Trinity if you hold fast to this 469 00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:11.080 image of a propitiatory father you will not grasp his heart so let me give you 470 00:39:11.080 --> 00:39:16.360 an example of what I mean I'm gonna talk to you now John Calvin he was born in 471 00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:25.560 1509 in France he died in 1564 in Geneva he added a huge amount of value to world 472 00:39:25.560 --> 00:39:30.160 history a huge reformational father and but he got a piece of the jigsaw puzzle 473 00:39:30.520 --> 00:39:35.240 so I want to offer him right I want to offer I want to offer him I want to 474 00:39:35.240 --> 00:39:41.080 honor John Calvin because there's so much that he did for world history for 475 00:39:41.080 --> 00:39:44.800 humanity for the church is so much that he ought and that he brought us that was 476 00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:49.960 valuable at the time okay but he was just one piece of the puzzle so if you 477 00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.680 only take the there was value there but he didn't get the whole thing so let's 478 00:39:53.680 --> 00:40:01.800 check this out so John Calvin actually moved to move to 479 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.880 Geneva and when he was in Geneva he basically became almost like the key guy 480 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:10.080 in leading policy and leading politics it was church-state kind of combined and 481 00:40:10.080 --> 00:40:15.480 he was viewed as like the mastermind of theology so his voice was unprecedented 482 00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:21.200 unparalleled his authority was basically unrivaled unmatched so if he wanted to 483 00:40:21.200 --> 00:40:27.480 set something into law boom it would actually become law and and what ended 484 00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:32.120 up happening is John Calvin because he didn't see didn't have a revelation of 485 00:40:32.120 --> 00:40:39.960 the father he ended up repackaging grace and relabeling it so just he just 486 00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:44.840 repackaged and relabeled the law and called it grace okay so so for John 487 00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:48.840 Calvin he's basically taken the law and tried to interpret the cross as 488 00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:52.680 propitiation and then he's gone hmm what does this all mean and he's taken the 489 00:40:52.680 --> 00:40:55.760 law and he's gone he's taken the label off it he's taken the label of the law 490 00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.280 off and he's put the label of grace on and he's just repackaged exactly the 491 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.920 law he's repackaged and said here you go guys have the law and and it didn't 492 00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:09.640 actually change that much so let me get into what I mean I'll read you a 493 00:41:09.640 --> 00:41:16.100 couple of quotes to start with and so this quote is from Dr. Paul 494 00:41:16.100 --> 00:41:22.800 Penley in an article that he wrote Calvin authorized beheadings death by 495 00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:29.240 fire and torture rather than exercise patience and kindness with competing 496 00:41:29.240 --> 00:41:34.280 theologians his enforcement of biblical doctrines looked more like Isis than 497 00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:41.840 Jesus in five years as magistrate of the Geneva Church City State Calvin oversaw 498 00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:50.000 58 death sentences 58 death sentences and exile of 76 people he wasn't the 499 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.660 sole decision maker in those cases but personal correspondence and City 500 00:41:53.660 --> 00:42:01.760 Council records betray his extraordinary influence Dr. Paul Penley let me read 501 00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:06.880 you another one from another short quote from Frank Viola in an article Frank 502 00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:13.720 Viola wrote he said and he in this let me read this in his article Frank Viola 503 00:42:13.720 --> 00:42:18.680 records a number of offenses for which people were executed in Calvin's Geneva 504 00:42:18.680 --> 00:42:25.640 fornication adultery blasphemy idolatry witchcraft and heresy were just some of 505 00:42:25.640 --> 00:42:29.760 the behaviors that received the death penalty confessions were obtained by 506 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:36.840 torture a child of an unspecified age was beheaded for physically fighting 507 00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:42.480 with their parents Frank Viola also spirit specifies that during a 17 year 508 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:49.360 period when Calvin was leading Geneva there were 139 recorded executions in 509 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:57.160 the city oh my gosh like respond to that if you think that's crazy okay so one of 510 00:42:57.160 --> 00:43:02.800 the greatest Christian theologians in world history is responsible for 511 00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:06.640 endorsing this concept like a little kid is fighting with their parents he's like 512 00:43:06.640 --> 00:43:13.520 yeah totally that deserves the death penalty and the kid gets beheaded oh my 513 00:43:13.520 --> 00:43:18.400 gosh what is this is this crazy like let's have some type of response if you 514 00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:23.280 think oh my gosh that is crazy that is crazy town yeah that is crazy town 515 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:30.080 Calvin because he interpreted the cross as propitiation and whoa and because he 516 00:43:30.080 --> 00:43:34.760 didn't make the transition poor so John the Baptist is leading us into a 517 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:39.040 reformation it's the biggest reformation in world history where 518 00:43:39.040 --> 00:43:42.400 there's a reformation from the Old Testament to the New Testament and 519 00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:50.680 pretty much like Hebrews Hebrews is the just a note there Joe on that there's no 520 00:43:50.680 --> 00:43:55.040 way that we can build a new thing on dishonoring the old so even though it's 521 00:43:55.040 --> 00:44:00.500 crazy you want to still walk in honor and respect for people regardless of who 522 00:44:00.500 --> 00:44:04.240 they were and it's never a good idea to be chucking out judgments about people 523 00:44:04.240 --> 00:44:08.440 that's what happened that's just some facts it's tragic but we want to always 524 00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:14.360 walk in honor regardless so let's not orphan out and in fact in that in the 525 00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:18.200 Reformation in the Protestant Reformation it got so messy because they 526 00:44:18.200 --> 00:44:22.080 dishonored the old the new Protestant reformers you know like the guys who 527 00:44:22.080 --> 00:44:26.000 are calling themselves the good guys in the Reformation they actually went out 528 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:31.000 and they started killing killing priests and burning down Catholic churches and 529 00:44:31.040 --> 00:44:37.320 raping nuns in like in the name of the Reformation what in fact the Reformation 530 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:43.560 leads over 200 years of war in Europe and hundreds of thousands of people died 531 00:44:43.560 --> 00:44:50.200 so we don't want to be like that as far as Reformation you're like so even even 532 00:44:50.200 --> 00:44:54.160 that you know like our Reformation and the Reformation that we're going into we 533 00:44:54.160 --> 00:44:59.520 want to ensure that it's a Reformation based on honor and so let's ensure we 534 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.600 found ourselves and ground ourselves on love and honor regardless of history or regardless of 535 00:45:05.600 --> 00:45:11.680 anything. So the big thing that Calvin failed to do and the big thing that the majority of our 536 00:45:11.680 --> 00:45:16.720 church fathers in the west failed to do is see the difference, actually catch the message of 537 00:45:16.720 --> 00:45:23.040 what John the Baptist was saying when he preached, behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin 538 00:45:23.040 --> 00:45:33.360 of the cosmos, one sacrifice for all sin, for all people, for all time. So what the book of 539 00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:40.720 Hebrews uncovers and explains and endorses and goes over and over and over about is that there 540 00:45:40.720 --> 00:45:46.640 is a different type of sacrifice. Now the Old Testament sacrifice is called a propitiatory 541 00:45:46.640 --> 00:45:52.960 sacrifice but the New Testament type of sacrifice is called an expiatory sacrifice. Now this is so 542 00:45:53.040 --> 00:45:58.160 hidden, this is so veiled. I've never talked to, I think I've only ever talked to one other person 543 00:45:58.160 --> 00:46:03.280 who knew this before I talked to them about it. I spent years trying to understand how Jesus was a 544 00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:07.760 sacrifice that revealed the Father. Remember we've always, when it comes to the cross, we want to 545 00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:12.080 make sure that the cross that we see, the interpretation that we have of the cross, 546 00:46:12.080 --> 00:46:17.120 is in harmony with the revelation of the Father that Jesus brought in the story of the Good Father 547 00:46:17.120 --> 00:46:23.120 and in the story where Jesus has brought the woman in adultery. The cross is in harmony, 548 00:46:23.120 --> 00:46:29.440 it's the same resonance, it's in perfect harmony with all those stories and discovering expiation 549 00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:33.040 and discovering what Hebrews is trying to communicate is your gateway to understanding 550 00:46:33.040 --> 00:46:40.240 how the cross is a sacrifice that reveals the Father. This is massive so pay attention because 551 00:46:40.240 --> 00:46:44.320 this is really really hidden. You're not going to talk to many people who have much of a grid 552 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:55.280 regarding this. So, goodness me, which bit shall we jump into now for you? 553 00:46:57.200 --> 00:47:03.760 I've got some cool scriptures lined up here for you guys. Here's another, here's just another 554 00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:10.640 little quote for you as well, is that for the, what people think, some people think that 555 00:47:11.520 --> 00:47:17.360 God's always about justice, right? He is about justice, right? But justice looks different to 556 00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:21.840 the Father than most people think it does. Most people think that justice looks like punishment, 557 00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:28.000 but for the Father it's totally different. For the Father, justice looks like redemption. 558 00:47:28.560 --> 00:47:35.760 The Father is into redemptive justice. Humanity so often misses his heart of redemptive justice 559 00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:40.240 and goes into punitive justice and looks for punishment, but the Father's not looking to 560 00:47:40.240 --> 00:47:45.280 punish you, he's looking to redeem you. His justice for the Father, like the happy ending 561 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:51.120 for a father, is not when the bad guy gets killed, it's when the bad guy gets redeemed and restored 562 00:47:51.120 --> 00:47:56.240 and renewed and discovers their identity and is fully restored into their sonship. That's what 563 00:47:56.240 --> 00:48:04.160 justice looks like for the Father. So, let me tell you a couple of stories about expiation, 564 00:48:04.160 --> 00:48:08.720 okay? So, expiation is different. I'm going to explain the definition of expiation because 565 00:48:08.720 --> 00:48:16.880 expiation is the New Testament type of sacrifice, okay? Now, the word expiate, it means the same as 566 00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:22.880 take away. So, it means to take away. So, when John the Baptist prophesied, behold the Lamb of 567 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:29.280 God who takes away the sin of the cosmos, he was using expiatory language and no one got what he 568 00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:34.960 meant because he was using, for the first time, using New Testament language describing the New 569 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:39.840 Testament sacrifice, explaining what a New Testament sacrifice looks like and no one got 570 00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:47.840 it because they just had 1,740 plus years, oh sorry, 1,470 plus years, not 1,740, I think I'm 571 00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:53.440 confused that a couple of times, but over 1,400 years of propitiation and everyone's confused 572 00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:58.000 about it and John now, he tries to stand up and tell everyone, no, it's not propitiation anymore, 573 00:48:58.080 --> 00:49:03.520 it's expiation. He's an expiatory sacrifice and no one can make the transition in their minds 574 00:49:03.520 --> 00:49:08.560 and still the church fails to transition from a propitiatory sacrifice of the old to the expiatory 575 00:49:08.560 --> 00:49:14.480 sacrifice of the new. Here's what expiation means. An expiatory sacrifice or an expiatory action is 576 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:21.120 like this. There was a lady named Samira. So, this lady, Samira, she lived in a Muslim nation 577 00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:30.240 and she had two sons. One of her sons was killed in a motorcycle accident and then her second son 578 00:49:30.240 --> 00:49:36.160 actually got into a, someone provoked a fight and then he got stabbed in the street and he got 579 00:49:36.160 --> 00:49:42.320 killed. So, she lost both her sons and then the guy who killed her son, his name was Bilal, 580 00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:48.080 he got sentenced, he got put in prison. I think he was in prison about seven years until his 581 00:49:48.080 --> 00:49:58.800 moment came to face death by hanging. So, for all these years, Samira has just had this deep-rooted 582 00:49:58.800 --> 00:49:59.840 hatred and... 583 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:07.520 Desire for vengeance and sense of bitterness and offense towards Bilal and she's been waiting for at this moment that she gets to 584 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:15.060 See him die, see him hung before her eyes. She's waiting for that moment of vengeance. Now that is propitiation 585 00:50:15.060 --> 00:50:18.120 You're waiting for vengeance. You're waiting for punishment now 586 00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:21.520 So what happens is after he's served his time 587 00:50:21.520 --> 00:50:27.560 He comes out and he's in the public square and that there's actually a genuine hanging getting ready to go there 588 00:50:27.560 --> 00:50:33.480 He's up on the gallows. He's got the neck of the the noose around his neck and then all of a sudden 589 00:50:34.560 --> 00:50:37.200 Something actually Samira she walks up. She slaps him 590 00:50:37.200 --> 00:50:38.920 she's still all filled with 591 00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:44.520 Vengeance and bitterness and hatred and then all of a sudden she felt the the vengeance and the bitterness and the hatred leaves 592 00:50:44.520 --> 00:50:52.600 She saw Bilal's mother weeping and crying out for her son and her heart got touched and she actually it was her right to decide 593 00:50:52.880 --> 00:51:00.000 If this guy but the murderer of Bilal was her right to decide if he would be executed or if he would be 594 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:02.320 pardoned and 595 00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.600 So Samira she walks up to him 596 00:51:04.600 --> 00:51:10.840 she grabs her husband they walk up to this guy and they grab the noose from around his neck and they remove the noose and 597 00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:15.960 They expiate him or they cancel the judgment. They cancel the accusation 598 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:20.600 Against him and he gets to go free. Oh my gosh 599 00:51:20.600 --> 00:51:26.360 how powerful is that now she transitions from a mindset of propitiation to a mindset of 600 00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:30.160 expiation so an expiatory action is 601 00:51:30.680 --> 00:51:37.600 If you if I say for example, I cause an offense towards you, but then you initiate the reconciliation 602 00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.400 Now this is a massive massive difference. Okay 603 00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:45.160 Propitiation Old Testament humanity causes issues humanities that are doing all the sacrifices 604 00:51:45.600 --> 00:51:51.800 Humanity's always initiating the reconciliation now the whole purpose of that is to prove that the Lord didn't work 605 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:54.520 The law was futile religion self-righteousness 606 00:51:55.040 --> 00:51:56.840 Trying to work your way to God 607 00:51:56.840 --> 00:52:00.960 Trying to do all these things to be enough to overcome your inadequacy through works 608 00:52:01.040 --> 00:52:06.420 The whole point of the law is to demonstrate that it's pointless and it doesn't even work. So Jesus 609 00:52:07.200 --> 00:52:09.560 he's revealing a new style of of 610 00:52:10.560 --> 00:52:13.960 Sacrifices the expiatory sacrifice of the New Testament 611 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:21.160 So let's just have a think is the cross a propitiatory action or is the cross an expiatory action? 612 00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:25.760 Okay, let's think if it's a propitiatory action then the 613 00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:28.800 propitiation whoever causes the offense 614 00:52:29.520 --> 00:52:32.400 Initiates the reconciliation but an expiation 615 00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:38.240 One person causes the offense and then the person who has been wronged 616 00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:40.880 Initiates the reconciliation 617 00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:46.880 So we see for God so loved the world that he sent his only son that whosoever would believe in him should not perish 618 00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:48.880 But have everlasting life 619 00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:56.560 We see humanity initiates the disconnection at the fall humanity initiates the offense the issue and it's humanity 620 00:52:56.560 --> 00:53:00.080 It's always stepping out of their sonship and always causing the issues and always 621 00:53:00.720 --> 00:53:03.720 Living outside of our identity and living in sin 622 00:53:03.720 --> 00:53:11.640 we initiate we cause we are the the Genesis the origin of the issue, but at the cross who initiates the 623 00:53:12.520 --> 00:53:14.920 Reconciliation. It's definitely not us 624 00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:20.520 John 3 16. It's the father initiating the reconciliation for God. So love the world 625 00:53:21.040 --> 00:53:28.360 Boom right there. It's the father. It's he is the one that he initiates the reconciliation. Absolutely 626 00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:33.960 Come on to kneel. That's awesome. So the father is initiating the reconciliation give a thumbs up if this is like, whoa 627 00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:38.240 Big moment. Oh my gosh, that's some lights are going on 628 00:53:38.240 --> 00:53:42.920 Give a thumbs up or like wow, or just say oh my gosh, something's going on for me 629 00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:46.920 So this is how the cross reveals the father 630 00:53:47.040 --> 00:53:52.320 It's because in there at the cross you don't see a God of wrath punishing 631 00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:54.840 Humanity punishing his son 632 00:53:55.240 --> 00:54:00.240 There's that song that on the cross the wrath of God was satisfied that is 633 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:06.680 Propitiation on the cross the wrath of God was satisfied that is propitiation as though the father needed to be propitiated 634 00:54:06.680 --> 00:54:11.200 Okay, the father's offended the father's angry with humanity. He's got to pour out his wrath 635 00:54:11.200 --> 00:54:14.880 He's got to punish someone so that he can he can have justice 636 00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:21.720 He's got to punish someone so that he can he can actually be like, okay, right now now I'm not offended anymore 637 00:54:22.640 --> 00:54:25.480 But is the cross like that? No, the cross is not like that 638 00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:31.120 The cross is in perfect harmony with the story of the good father because on the cross is the father 639 00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:35.000 Initiating the reconciliation. It's a father running to 640 00:54:35.680 --> 00:54:41.320 Humanity putting to death and just like the father and the good the story of the good father 641 00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:48.020 He runs to the son and he cancels all the offense and that's what the father is doing on the cross with Jesus 642 00:54:48.020 --> 00:54:55.100 The Trinity is canceling every offense, so it's not propitiation. It's expiation. It's humanity that caused the offense 643 00:54:55.100 --> 00:55:00.060 It's the Trinity that initiates the reconciliation. Let's check this out and Hebrews a little bit more 644 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:15.360 let's get you some expiation verses from the book of Hebrews let's go let me just 645 00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:22.000 I've somehow lost lost my way a little bit give me one moment and I will get 646 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:32.840 back on track with you okay here we go expiatory sacrifice verses so Hebrews 647 00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:45.680 chapter 1 verse 2 oh not that one sorry one moment here guys yeah I did have it 648 00:55:45.680 --> 00:55:49.800 in the first place here's some expiation verses for you so firstly the one we've 649 00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:54.320 used already John 1 29 the next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said 650 00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:58.600 look behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world the sin of the 651 00:55:58.600 --> 00:56:05.120 cosmos that's expiation that means taking away Hebrews 7 8 the former 652 00:56:05.120 --> 00:56:09.280 regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless for the law made 653 00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:13.280 nothing perfect and a better hope is introduced by which we draw near to God 654 00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:18.560 Hebrews 8 13 by calling this covenant new he has made the first one obsolete 655 00:56:18.560 --> 00:56:24.120 and what is obsolete will soon disappear good comments guys thanks for 656 00:56:24.120 --> 00:56:27.880 that love love the interaction love seeing you responding it's a great way 657 00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:35.960 to do this now check this out Hebrews 8 6 but in fact the ministry Jesus has 658 00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:40.800 received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is a mediator is 659 00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:44.520 superior to the old one since the new covenant is established on better 660 00:56:44.520 --> 00:56:50.240 promises Hebrews 9 15 for this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant 661 00:56:50.240 --> 00:56:56.160 that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance now that 662 00:56:56.160 --> 00:57:01.640 he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first 663 00:57:01.640 --> 00:57:06.160 covenant see it's all about freedom from sin not just being forgiven but going 664 00:57:06.160 --> 00:57:11.920 way beyond forgiveness and into freedom Hebrews 10 14 for by one sacrifice say 665 00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:17.320 one sacrifice type one sacrifice give me a thumbs up by one sacrifice he has 666 00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:24.400 made perfect forever those who are being made holy and Joe by the way that's the 667 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:33.080 right spelling for expiation Hebrews Hebrews 9 14 how much more will the blood 668 00:57:33.080 --> 00:57:36.240 of Christ who through the eternal spirit offered himself unblemished to God 669 00:57:36.240 --> 00:57:42.600 cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death that so that we may serve 670 00:57:42.600 --> 00:57:46.720 the living God so this is the cool thing when you get the message of the gospel 671 00:57:46.720 --> 00:57:51.160 it cleanses our conscience from sin we live sun conscious not sin conscious 672 00:57:51.160 --> 00:57:56.160 Hebrews 10 8 first he said sacrifices and offerings burnt offerings and sin 673 00:57:56.160 --> 00:58:00.880 offerings you did not desire nor were you pleased with them though they were 674 00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:06.240 offered in accordance with the law what he didn't even desire sacrifices that 675 00:58:06.240 --> 00:58:10.640 wasn't even the point that's not what he was even after Hebrews 10 11 day after 676 00:58:10.640 --> 00:58:14.080 day the priest stands and performs his religious duties again and again he 677 00:58:14.080 --> 00:58:18.760 offers the same sacrifices which can never take away sins that's religion 678 00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:22.960 that's the law you know that's what so much of our church life is filled with 679 00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:27.360 now John 3 16 for God so loved the world that he sent his only son that whoever 680 00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:31.280 believes shall not perish but have eternal life Romans 5 8 but God 681 00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:35.080 demonstrates his own love for us in this while we were still sinners 682 00:58:35.080 --> 00:58:42.160 Christ died for us Jesus said in John 8 11 neither do I condemn you and in 1 John 683 00:58:42.160 --> 00:58:47.320 14 it says in this love not that we love God but that he loved us and sent his son 684 00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:51.560 to be the expiation for our sins so let me explain one of the reasons why this 685 00:58:51.560 --> 00:58:57.520 gets so so confused and why your Bible will will leave you confused and why 686 00:58:57.520 --> 00:59:02.440 pastors will leave you confused so much of this is confusing because there's 687 00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:09.240 three Greek words that mean they mean atonement and propitiation and 688 00:59:09.240 --> 00:59:14.320 expiation all in the same in fact even in English the English word atonement 689 00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:19.040 it's a sacrifice word right atonement is a sacrifice word and atonement means 690 00:59:19.040 --> 00:59:25.120 both propitiation and expiation at the same time okay so atonement and even in 691 00:59:25.120 --> 00:59:29.240 English the word atonement means propitiate and expiate at the same time 692 00:59:29.240 --> 00:59:33.160 it's a sacrifice even though propitiation and expiation have totally 693 00:59:33.160 --> 00:59:37.720 different meanings so it's the same in the Greek there's these three Greek 694 00:59:37.720 --> 00:59:44.760 words helisterion heliscomi and helismosos so helisterion heliscomi 695 00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:49.080 helismosos three Greek words that are just like the English word atonement 696 00:59:49.080 --> 00:59:55.440 they simultaneously mean propitiation and expiation okay now if Jesus is a 697 00:59:55.440 --> 01:00:02.120 propitiatory sacrifice he's going to be just like the Old Testament sacrifice 698 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.880 and he's not going to work, but he's not, he's an expiatory sacrifice. 699 01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:11.720 So in your Bible, when they've translated it, they have translated, sometimes they translate 700 01:00:11.720 --> 01:00:16.880 those words, well actually pretty much all the time, they translate those words, helisterion, 701 01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:24.160 heliscoma and helismosos, they just always translate them as propitiate or atonement 702 01:00:24.160 --> 01:00:29.960 or mercy seat, but they, hey Jess, good to see you guys again. 703 01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:37.320 They pretty much always interpret these words to mean propitiate or atonement, and it's 704 01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:42.040 so crazy because in the book of Hebrews, here's why most people don't understand the book 705 01:00:42.040 --> 01:00:47.400 of Hebrews, right, because the book of Hebrews is a book of contrast between Old Testament, 706 01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:53.440 New Testament, Mount Sinai, Mount Zion, New Covenant, Old Covenant, and it's also a contrast 707 01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:59.240 between New Testament sacrifice and Old Testament sacrifice, it's a contrast between propitiation 708 01:00:59.240 --> 01:01:00.240 and expiation. 709 01:01:00.240 --> 01:01:05.560 Now, people don't get Hebrews because the translators who've got this mindset of an 710 01:01:05.560 --> 01:01:14.440 angry papa, a god of wrath, who is just, you know, punishing his son on the cross, they 711 01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:18.820 always translate helisterion, heliscoma, helismosos as propitiate. 712 01:01:18.820 --> 01:01:23.400 So what ends up happening in the book of Hebrews is the book of Hebrews becomes a contrast 713 01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:26.400 between propitiation and propitiation. 714 01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:27.400 What? 715 01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:28.400 Yeah, that's right. 716 01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:35.200 The book of Hebrews, the way it's translated by most of our translators, it becomes a contrast 717 01:01:35.200 --> 01:01:38.040 between propitiation and propitiation. 718 01:01:38.040 --> 01:01:41.520 And what's the difference between propitiation and propitiation? 719 01:01:41.520 --> 01:01:42.520 What? 720 01:01:42.520 --> 01:01:43.520 I'm confused. 721 01:01:43.520 --> 01:01:44.520 There is no difference. 722 01:01:44.520 --> 01:01:49.040 What's the point in a book that's contrasting propitiation with propitiation? 723 01:01:49.040 --> 01:01:50.040 There is no point. 724 01:01:50.040 --> 01:01:51.880 So we lose the meaning of the book of Hebrews. 725 01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:57.760 So here's how we tell, here's how we can tell if those words atonement or those words 726 01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:03.680 helisterion, heliscoma and helismosos should be translated propitiate or expiate. 727 01:02:03.680 --> 01:02:05.440 It's always the context, okay? 728 01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:08.120 It's the context that gives it the meaning. 729 01:02:08.120 --> 01:02:19.560 So the context of the context of the New Testament, we've got to ask ourselves, is the cross propitiatory 730 01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.200 or is the cross expiatory? 731 01:02:22.200 --> 01:02:31.120 Like all of Calvinism, John Calvin's whole theology is founded on the concept that the 732 01:02:31.120 --> 01:02:34.040 cross was a propitiatory action. 733 01:02:34.040 --> 01:02:39.880 And like nearly every, nearly everything that's wrong with our modern day mainstream interpretation 734 01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:48.080 of the gospel stems from this area where people interpret the cross as a propitiation. 735 01:02:48.080 --> 01:02:53.240 Now if the cross is a propitiatory action, it means that the cross is about changing 736 01:02:53.240 --> 01:02:54.840 the nature of God. 737 01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:58.080 It means that it's about trying to redeem God. 738 01:02:58.080 --> 01:03:02.600 And when we view the cross as propitiation, we get into that quote that I shared last 739 01:03:02.600 --> 01:03:05.760 night, a guy that's got a propitiatory mindset. 740 01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:12.400 He comes to the ultimate conclusion that the cross, the irony of the gospel is that in 741 01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:15.080 the gospel, God saves us from God. 742 01:03:15.080 --> 01:03:16.080 What? 743 01:03:16.080 --> 01:03:17.440 No, that's crazy. 744 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:19.280 God saves us from ourselves. 745 01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:24.800 But when we see the cross as propitiatory, God's wrath has to be satisfied. 746 01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:25.800 He can't just forgive. 747 01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:27.040 I mean, that's crazy. 748 01:03:27.040 --> 01:03:29.940 Doesn't God just ask you to forgive? 749 01:03:29.940 --> 01:03:35.040 Doesn't God just ask you to forgive like without offense, without asking anyone for punishment? 750 01:03:35.040 --> 01:03:40.400 Didn't Jesus already reveal the nature of the father when he effortlessly forgave people? 751 01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:42.360 Yes, absolutely. 752 01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:47.400 So how can we tell if the cross is expiation or propitiation? 753 01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:49.000 Really, really simple test. 754 01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:51.720 We ask, who initiated the issue? 755 01:03:51.720 --> 01:03:52.720 Who caused the offense? 756 01:03:52.720 --> 01:03:53.920 Who caused the issue? 757 01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:58.040 And I think we've got to pretty quickly and easily come to the conclusion that it was 758 01:03:58.040 --> 01:03:59.040 humanity. 759 01:03:59.040 --> 01:04:00.040 All right. 760 01:04:00.040 --> 01:04:01.040 So then who initiated the reconciliation? 761 01:04:01.040 --> 01:04:02.040 Boom. 762 01:04:02.040 --> 01:04:03.040 Oh my gosh. 763 01:04:03.040 --> 01:04:04.040 It was the Trinity. 764 01:04:04.040 --> 01:04:06.920 The Trinity initiated the reconciliation. 765 01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:13.120 So there is no way whatsoever that anyone can ever say that the cross is propitiatory. 766 01:04:13.120 --> 01:04:19.200 When we interpret the cross as propitiation, what we inevitably and unwittingly do is we 767 01:04:19.200 --> 01:04:24.640 take the entire Old Testament, which failed to get people free from sin. 768 01:04:24.640 --> 01:04:29.280 We repackage and we relabel the Old Testament and we call it grace. 769 01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:33.200 And we say, here you go guys, Jesus died to give you this grace. 770 01:04:33.200 --> 01:04:34.200 It's amazing. 771 01:04:34.200 --> 01:04:38.880 But all it is, is a repackaged, relabeled system rigged to fail. 772 01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:42.440 It's a whole nother lifetime of religion bound to sin. 773 01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:43.760 You remain sin conscious. 774 01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:44.760 You can't get free. 775 01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:49.600 You live in self-condemnation, shame, isolation, disconnection, all those things, rather than 776 01:04:49.600 --> 01:04:53.280 becoming an equal participant in the divine life. 777 01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:58.200 When you grasp expiation, you see that the cross is in perfect harmony with the story 778 01:04:58.200 --> 01:04:59.200 of the good father. 779 01:04:59.200 --> 01:04:59.960 That right where you are. 780 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:12.000 The Father is not coming to punish you, alright? He's not coming to punish you, He's coming to cancel out every trace of accusation or condemnation or false identity that's ever been labeled at you. 781 01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:20.000 He's coming to cancel it. And so that's what He does. That's what expiation is about. He's the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. 782 01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:29.000 And the sin is every false identity that you've ever believed about yourself. So every false identity that you've ever believed about yourself on the cross, it is expiated. 783 01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:41.000 All the false identities, all the orphan illusions, on the cross it was expiated, it was annihilated, it was put to death once for all, for all the cosmos, for all time, for all humanity. 784 01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:49.000 The sin, boom, the false definitions of who you are were expiated and put to death once for all, forever. 785 01:05:49.000 --> 01:06:00.000 Let me give you a great verse on that. I should be able to find it here in one moment. It's Colossians 2. If you want to read out of your Bible you'll find it in Colossians 2. 786 01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:05.000 I've got it written down here but somehow it got lost. 787 01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:21.000 Colossians 2. Oh my gosh. All my pages got mixed up. He'd lost it here, mate. Do I have a Colossians 2? 788 01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:29.000 Yes I do. Colossians 2 verse 14. 789 01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:38.000 Having cancelled the charge of the legal indebtedness which stood against us and condemned us, He has taken it away. 790 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:47.000 And that's taken it away, that's expiation. That's exactly the same language that John the Baptist used about your sin, about the sinful nature, about any false definition of your identity. 791 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:51.000 He has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 792 01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:59.000 Having cancelled the charge of our legal indebtedness which stood against us and condemned us, He has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 793 01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:07.000 So on the cross you see the cancellation, you see the death, you see the expiation of every false identity that's ever tried to define you. 794 01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:14.000 And it's those false identities that leave you bound and trapped to sin and boom, He sets us free from them all. 795 01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:20.000 I'm sure that has created enough conversation and a lot of questions. 796 01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:28.000 But what you ultimately want to see, you want to be able to discover that the cross is a perfect revelation of the nature of the Father. 797 01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:38.000 So what we see there through expiation is we see that the Father in the story of the Good Father in Luke 15 and the Father revealed at the cross are exactly the same Father. 798 01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:43.000 And right where you are right now, there's a Father running to you with massive compassion. 799 01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:51.000 He's not running to you wanting to condemn you, not running to you wanting to hold sin against you, not running at you wanting to punish you. 800 01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:55.000 But 2 Corinthians 5 verse 19 says, 801 01:07:55.000 --> 01:08:04.000 But God was in Christ reconciling the cosmos to Himself, not counting men's sins against Him. 802 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:09.000 So this is massive because this influences the whole message of how we articulate the gospel. 803 01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:15.000 God is not holding the sins of humanity against them. He's not waiting to punish the sins of humanity. 804 01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:19.000 He's not got a big stick and He's not running out wanting to punish sinners. 805 01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:22.000 The Father is wanting to run out and expiate. 806 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:33.000 The gospel is a declaration of the expiation, the cancelling, the annulment of every false identity and every sin in Jesus name. 807 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.000 Hey, massive love to you all. I hope you've loved that. 808 01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:42.000 My guess is that that's going to spur some good thinking, some good thoughts in the 12-week school. 809 01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:45.000 Once again, we get to go deeper on all of this. 810 01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:48.000 That's been great value for tonight. 811 01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:52.000 We're going to go deeper on all of that and I want you guys all to come on board. 812 01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:54.000 I don't want anyone to miss out. 813 01:08:54.000 --> 01:09:00.000 I want everyone who wants to, to be able to come and be a part of the 12-week school of sonship. 814 01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:06.000 That's why I'm going to give out, literally giving out in the next, probably in the next 4 days. 815 01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:08.000 It's all going to happen real quick. 816 01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:18.000 But in the next 4 days, I'm going to give out $14,970 worth of scholarships because I want everyone to be able to join this journey. 817 01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:20.000 Everyone who's keen, I want you on board. 818 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:21.000 I want you to journey with it. 819 01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:23.000 I want us to go deep. 820 01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:29.000 I want to build a family that can just share this journey of sonship together and I've got awesome stuff coming. 821 01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:32.000 Let me pray for you as we wrap up. 822 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:38.000 Papa, I just ask that right now, that we would discover that you're a good father. 823 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:40.000 Deeper than ever before. 824 01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:46.000 That we would discover that when we're in the depths of our darkness and condemnation and isolation, 825 01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:48.000 you're not mad at us, you're mad about us. 826 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:52.000 And you're not coming to condemn us, you're coming to set us free. 827 01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:58.000 I just ask that there would be, Lord, just a sweet, sweet revelation of your goodness and kindness. 828 01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.000 That it would flow through every heart. 829 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:04.240 that it would capture every heart. Lord that there would be a release of spirit of wisdom 830 01:10:04.240 --> 01:10:09.200 and revelation that would go deep deep deep in people's hearts. And Jesus I just thank you so 831 01:10:09.200 --> 01:10:14.000 much that you just begin to bring revelation to people that the cross is about a revelation of 832 01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:21.840 the Father in Jesus name. Take us deep, draw us deep, found us and ground us in a radical baptism 833 01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:27.760 in the fire of your love and release that fiery love and that fiery baptism right now to every 834 01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:39.600 person in Jesus name. Whoa whoa come on massive guys love you heaps. What I'd love to do is I'd 835 01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:45.920 love you just to put in a little testimony as well, a short thing, even just a message or jump 836 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:51.520 on and do a live, do a 60 second live. Cheers Will, love that, love all your comments and feedback 837 01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:56.800 everyone. But I would really value it if you just do a like a 60 second live or you do a post little 838 01:10:56.800 --> 01:11:03.600 testimony of how things have been valuable for you through this process. I hope it's been 839 01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:10.400 amazing. We've got one more session, one more session in Life Redefined. That's session number 840 01:11:10.400 --> 01:11:16.480 seven of eight. So that's we've got one more session and I'm really really hoping that 841 01:11:17.280 --> 01:11:24.480 everyone will come on board and jump into the online school of Sonship, the full 12-week school. 842 01:11:24.480 --> 01:11:28.640 And I've got a really amazing announcement to make yesterday and to make tomorrow. 843 01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:32.720 So make sure you catch my live tomorrow. I'm just going to give you all the information 844 01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:38.960 about getting on board for the full school of Sonship and I really want to make sure 845 01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:42.480 that anyone who wants to can get on board. I'll do everything I can to make that possible. 846 01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:52.240 What do I want to say? That's it for now. Massive love to you. Give a thumbs up if you think that's 847 01:11:52.240 --> 01:11:59.680 generous to give away $14,970 worth of scholarships. If you think that is generous, 848 01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:04.960 give a thumbs up. If you think that's generous, then wait till you see the offer that I'm going 849 01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:13.040 to make for people to actually come on board. Boom! Good to see you from the Rye Valley. 850 01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:25.040 Massive love to everyone. If you think that offer of the $14,970 worth of scholarships is 851 01:12:25.040 --> 01:12:28.240 valuable and generous, wait till you see what I'm going to announce tomorrow 852 01:12:29.040 --> 01:12:33.360 because I am going to blow your socks off with generosity because that's how I love to roll 853 01:12:33.360 --> 01:12:39.040 and I love to give you guys everything. I've just really poured out my life this last couple of 854 01:12:39.040 --> 01:12:43.840 weeks to make it possible with everything else going on in my life to sow into your lives. 855 01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:48.800 Thanks so much for being a part of the journey. One more massive session and then boom! We're 856 01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:53.920 going to jump into the full online school of Sonship which the intensity drops down a little 857 01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:57.760 bit in the sense of it's not quite as many sessions in a week so it's a little bit easier 858 01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:03.200 to catch all the lives. Love you. Catch you soon. Hope you have an amazing, amazing night. 859 01:13:03.200 --> 01:13:07.200 Give me some lives and some testimonies of what God's been doing in your life. 860 01:13:07.200 --> 01:13:13.520 Boom! Tomorrow that live I'm going to do it, how about I do it in the morning? I'll do it in the 861 01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:20.560 morning. I'll do that live before 10am so actually it'll be about a five to ten minute live tomorrow 862 01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:27.680 morning and I'll get on there and it'll probably be about eight o'clock. I'll shoot for eight o'clock 863 01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:33.360 tomorrow for the live. Boom! Love you. Catch you tomorrow and also Saturday will be a night session 864 01:13:33.360 --> 01:13:34.960 as well. See you soon. Bye!