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hesitate to even share this because I don't know how to talk about this

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without coming across as being offensive in some way. It will be because of

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ignorance. This is not a subject matter that I am familiar with. I've never had a

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reason to be familiar with it. There are so many preconceived notions of this, you

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know, how this works and especially how it relates to God and Jesus. And, you

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know, today just kind of, you know, really just made me stop and think about it.

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Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Truth Talk with Wendy. And this is an

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unusual recording because typically I have my producer here and she and I

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coordinate on all of this and we have a nice fancy camera and everything is

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exactly like it's supposed to be. But today it is me and my phone. I just

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wanted to share something with you that just happened that kind of has just got

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me to thinking. And I know that I know that I know it was a God thing because

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of how everything went down. But today, for the first time, I visited a church.

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This will probably be its own episode at some point. But once COVID hit and

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everything shut down, I had all my kids at home and was able to know that they

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were all safe. As some of you guys know, my church experience has not been a

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great one. And I have not gone back since COVID and have been real happy

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that all my kids are with me every Sunday instead of me worrying about them

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in the children's church or what they might be hearing that may not be true or

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what might be happening to them. So anyway, it's been easier to stay at home.

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So today was a big day for me to actually go back and took two of my kids

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with me. But then while we were there, this is a new church I just learned

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about this week that is real big on community service and doing things as

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Jesus would do if he was walking the face of the earth today, which is the

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whole point of being a Christian. But after church, well let me say during

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church, when church was over and we were talking to a couple people that we

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knew, my son struck up a conversation with someone and the Lord really kind of

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laid on both of our hearts before we left to invite this person to go to

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lunch with us. So that's what we did. This person is very interesting. I really

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even hesitate... sorry I think probably my phone is gonna ring and I don't have it

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on do not disturb. I've probably done this all wrong, but I needed to get this

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out. I hesitate to even share this because I don't know how to talk about

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this without coming across as being offensive in some way. It will be

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because of ignorance. This is not a subject matter that I am familiar with.

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I've never had a reason to be familiar with it. There are so many preconceived

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notions of this, you know, how this works and especially how it relates to God and

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Jesus. And you know today just kind of, you know, really just made me stop and

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think about it. Will it change my mind? You know, I don't know. It's too early to

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say. But I wanted to share because I cannot be the only person who is a

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Christian and who's trying to please the Lord and hear the Holy Spirit who has to

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feel this way. So that's why I wanted to share this. But this person is a man and

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he had a man name. He introduced himself as a man, but in the conversation it was

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obvious by looking at him that he was different than me, different than myself.

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different than my husband, different than a lot of people but you know we're all

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different in our own odd unique special ways and so I usually don't let that

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deter me a lot and I try to always get to the heart of somebody never wanting

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the outside of them to force me to make a judgment although that's easy to do

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just from you know society and and you know who who we are around normally but

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you know I I wasn't gonna do that I wanted to find out about him and his

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life and how it affects you know where he is today you know and I think he said

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he was almost 60 so I say all that to say in the in the course of this

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conversation and that was very much about God and the Holy Spirit and Jesus

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and he loves the Lord and so you know from from little was raised as a

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Christian and you know it if I was talking to him on the phone I would

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never have you know none of and then the end of the conversation would if that

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would not have come up I would have thought nothing but you know made a new

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friend today but you know it's obviously a difference in him and most men and he

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was well aware of it and wasn't shy about it and has been neglected and

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shunned and abandoned and rejected by his own family members and clearly a lot

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of society because of it but yet I'm having a conversation with him about God

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I'm not having to convince him that there is a God that you know that Jesus

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loves him that the Holy Spirit can live with inside of us I mean I'm not I'm

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having a conversation with someone that is is like a brother in Christ and I'm

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I'm so conflicted because I asked specifically I asked him because he was

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currently still wanting to become more feminine not in a surgical way but you

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know just like hormonally and again I'm so ignorant about this I don't even

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really know how to explain it other than you know it's not that he thought

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he was a girl you know 20 years ago so he transitioned and now he's wanting to

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now now he's transitioning back so there's some evidence of that which was

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my initial assumption it's not that it is that he is still actively you know

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wanting to be a woman and so I asked him I said so can I ask you you know do you

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do you think that when God created you you know that he made a mistake like you

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you really weren't supposed to be a boy or you're supposed to be a girl you know

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he's like oh no I don't believe that I don't believe God made a mistake you

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know and so what ended up happening in this discussion was I was expecting him

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to say yes of course you know that there's absolutely no way I'm supposed

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to be a man you know I that was the answer I thought I was gonna get that

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was not the answer that I got and I I didn't know what to say and one thing

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I've learned is when you don't know what to say it's better not to say anything

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and so I excused myself I went to the bathroom and I was just praying like God

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can you show me what I'm supposed to do here like I I don't know how to be in

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this debate I don't know what to say to him I have no concept of what he's going

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through I literally I don't know if he had said of course God made a mistake

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then I had a lot of stuff ready for that you know to explain to him that God

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didn't make a mistake and you know that God is perfect and you know like from

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that approach but that's not what he said it's not what he thinks and so I'm

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truly I'm at a loss I do not know so um I think this debate in this subject

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matter is so front and center in our society right now and I feel that that

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we as Christians need to be very much more informed about what is really going

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on in their

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head. I was able to share a little bit of my story not a lot just kind of touch the surface of my

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story with him and he did share that he experienced something similar not not the same but something

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similar. I did not get any details or anything like that but clearly you know people who've

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been through trauma and people who have been rejected and abandoned and you know like that

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you know as a child there there are many different um results and roads that someone goes down to

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cope with or try to figure out and and identify with um you know the trauma that comes from that

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and so I think this movement of people they are very clearly misguided in where

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Jesus wants them to be whole myself included. There are so many decisions that I made

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because I didn't know who I was in Christ and had I known that and had I been able to grasp that and

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understand that and rest in that maybe those decisions would have been different you know

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I don't I don't know because I can't go back and relive it um I would like to think I would

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think I would have done things differently had I had more um information but again

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the biblical information I got was from the one who hurt me so not sure how that would have

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made a difference you know at that point anyway I I don't know I would really like some feedback

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from any Christian a a a self-proclaimed Christian who believes in God believes

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Jesus is the Son of God believes in the Holy Spirit um who has any kind of

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experience with this whether it be your personal experience or a member of your family that you've

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had to deal with who who is a Christian who who with somebody that says they are a Christian

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but they struggle in this area and actively still want to pursue

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becoming something that God did not create like in other words if they were born a boy

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and they're still trying to pursue being a girl or if they were born a girl and are wanting to

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be a boy um in in inside their Christian walk so I I would really like some some feedback I I am not

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interested in anyone's opinion that does not have personal experience and feedback from

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um their own personal experience with this or their family member I I don't care you know what

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if you've read a book or that that's not what I'm interested in I'm I'm interested in like what is

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going on inside somebody who's further down the road in this discovery in this discussion because

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I didn't know what to say and I didn't know how to help and I didn't know how to

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I what what happens is when you don't know and you are in in that position and this was a long

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lunch this wasn't like you know we got there and ordered an appetizer and then this was brought up

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and then I felt uncomfortable and then we left I mean this was thankfully at the end but I I was so

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caught off guard by his answer and not knowing what to say that I just was like okay I'm not

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gonna say anything so I felt like you know we had this great lunch and we connected in so many ways

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and then I just left without you know just I don't know I just like felt like I just left it hanging

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I didn't know I don't know it just made me feel bad and it made me feel like I wanted so much to

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help him and I didn't know how to do it and that's really what I'm after is how do I really

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help by relating to when I can't relate to that I it's just not something I can wrap my brain

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around and but I want to understand so that I can have a conversation and I want to be

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the hands and feet of Jesus and I have to say you know

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The loving him part that was that was the easy part, you know, I mean, I know that Jesus would just say

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you know, we'll just accept him and love him and

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you know and

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Be kind to him and that that was we did that. I

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Don't know at this point

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What to do I know that he doesn't trust a lot of people which I don't blame him because

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Most people, you know shun him and don't don't want anything to do with him. Well

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That doesn't leave a lot of people that he would let talk to him about it. So I

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Just want to be equipped if God ever gives me another opportunity, you know, if I didn't blow this one too bad

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I really want to be equipped to be able to say

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You know, hey, you know what?

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I've never walked in your shoes, but

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You know my friend shared this with me. Let me see if this will be helpful

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You know, I don't I don't know. But anyway, if you have feedback and

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For you know from personal experience to please

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Share something in the comments that you know, maybe I could even contact you. I don't know

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Anyway, that's just something I want to share with everybody today. So I hope you guys are having a great Sunday and

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Hope to see you on the next

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You