WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.200 Today, we look at the five camps of abortion belief, and the history of abortion since 2 00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:12.480 1500 before Christ, and how abortion went from not mentioned at all in the United States 3 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:15.040 to illegal in the United States. 4 00:00:15.040 --> 00:00:22.040 And that is next. 5 00:00:22.040 --> 00:00:34.640 Hey, welcome back to the Barry Ferris Show. 6 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:39.880 Today, we're going to look at the five camps of abortion belief, the history of abortion, 7 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:42.760 and how abortion became illegal. 8 00:00:42.760 --> 00:00:46.740 You know, abortion was a controversy way before this 1973 decision. 9 00:00:46.740 --> 00:00:49.160 There are basically five camps. 10 00:00:49.160 --> 00:00:55.400 The first camp believes that abortion is always morally wrong, unless to prevent the death 11 00:00:55.400 --> 00:00:56.400 of the mother. 12 00:00:56.400 --> 00:01:01.300 Otherwise, this camp believes it's the taking of innocent life. 13 00:01:01.300 --> 00:01:08.120 Many in this camp believe contraception is fine, but elective abortion is morally wrong. 14 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:12.400 The second camp believes that it's mostly morally wrong, but that when competing with 15 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:16.720 other bad outcomes, an abortion is the lesser of two evils. 16 00:01:16.720 --> 00:01:22.720 For example, they add the rare instances of rape or incest causing a pregnancy, in addition 17 00:01:22.720 --> 00:01:26.180 to the instance of the life of the mother being at risk. 18 00:01:26.180 --> 00:01:31.440 Like the first camp, though, this second camp does believe that abortion is wrong as a means 19 00:01:31.440 --> 00:01:37.280 of birth control, family planning, sex selection, or convenience. 20 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:43.440 The third camp believes that abortion is mostly morally okay, up to about the midpoint 21 00:01:43.440 --> 00:01:44.960 in the pregnancy. 22 00:01:44.960 --> 00:01:48.480 This camp allows for exceptions beyond rape, incest, and the life of the mother. 23 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:52.720 For example, this camp believes abortion is acceptable after considering the mental and 24 00:01:52.720 --> 00:01:58.400 the physical condition of the birth mother, her economic situation, potential disabilities, 25 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:04.560 and most controversially, as a backup to failed contraception. 26 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:08.919 The fourth camp does not believe that abortion on demand is morally wrong almost all the 27 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:10.360 time. 28 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:14.320 This camp believes that as long as the baby is not living on its own outside of the womb, 29 00:02:14.320 --> 00:02:16.800 it's okay to abort for any reason. 30 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:21.320 Many of the people in this camp have shifted to the second or the third camp with modern 31 00:02:21.320 --> 00:02:23.440 high-definition ultrasound technology. 32 00:02:23.440 --> 00:02:25.660 When you see the fingers moving, it affects you. 33 00:02:25.660 --> 00:02:30.240 But the believers in this camp believe abortion is not morally wrong until it's likely that 34 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:34.760 the baby would survive outside of the womb naturally. 35 00:02:34.760 --> 00:02:39.960 The fifth camp believes that abortion is not morally wrong at all, under any circumstances. 36 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:46.300 In fact, upon demand, abortion is good under any circumstances. 37 00:02:46.300 --> 00:02:49.960 In fact, upon the demand of the mother, it's morally right. 38 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:54.400 This camp believes that abortion on demand solves problems like overpopulation, disability, 39 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:56.160 and poverty, so it's good. 40 00:02:56.160 --> 00:02:59.320 This camp includes abortion at partial birth. 41 00:02:59.320 --> 00:03:04.840 Some people in this camp believe abortion on demand is morally right even immediately 42 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:11.040 after the baby is already fully born, past partial birth. 43 00:03:11.040 --> 00:03:15.600 So these five camps have, in round numbers, explained the source of the controversy around 44 00:03:15.600 --> 00:03:16.600 abortion. 45 00:03:16.600 --> 00:03:20.680 For the most part, everyone is in one of those camps of belief when it comes to abortion. 46 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:21.680 Abortion is not new. 47 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:27.400 Historically, we know that abortions were performed since at least 1500 BC. 48 00:03:27.480 --> 00:03:32.640 They induced the abortion in a variety of ways, with herbs, lying on a coconut shell, 49 00:03:32.640 --> 00:03:36.720 tightening the girdle, strenuous physical activity, all kinds of things. 50 00:03:36.720 --> 00:03:42.680 Asia used a type of massage and an herbal mix to induce abortion. 51 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:46.160 Native New Zealanders formulated a mix of herbs. 52 00:03:46.160 --> 00:03:50.200 By around 450 BC, the West used some form of pessary. 53 00:03:50.200 --> 00:03:52.080 That's a removable device. 54 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:53.640 It's kind of like a tampon. 55 00:03:53.640 --> 00:03:59.360 They would soak it in what was allegedly an effective miscarriage-inducing herb. 56 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:02.680 Midwives were the primary abortion clinic in ancient Greece. 57 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:04.080 They used the herb, solithium. 58 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:06.380 Apparently, it was very effective. 59 00:04:06.380 --> 00:04:09.320 This was really popular with the Cyrenes. 60 00:04:09.320 --> 00:04:13.200 Other concoctions of rue, egg, and dill were popular. 61 00:04:13.200 --> 00:04:18.519 You know, rue does contain some abortive compounds, according to modern scientific studies. 62 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:22.720 So going back in time, Aristotle, the Greek philosopher who lived from 384 to 322 BC, 63 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:28.320 thought abortion in the early days of the pregnancy was less cruel than exposing unwanted 64 00:04:28.320 --> 00:04:30.560 infants to the elements. 65 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:33.040 He further explains his position on the procedure. 66 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:38.240 When couples have children in excess, this is his quote, let abortion be procured before 67 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:40.880 sense and life have begun. 68 00:04:40.880 --> 00:04:45.480 What may or may not be lawfully done in these cases depends on the question of life and 69 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:47.100 sensation. 70 00:04:47.100 --> 00:04:50.600 In other words, Aristotle believed that up until the baby was alive and felt pain that 71 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:52.420 abortion would be okay. 72 00:04:52.420 --> 00:04:55.500 He believed that in the early days of the pregnancy, the baby couldn't feel anything 73 00:04:55.500 --> 00:04:56.700 and wasn't really fully alive. 74 00:04:56.700 --> 00:05:00.020 And in this instance, if the family couldn't afford another kid... 75 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:04.240 go ahead with the abortion. He would sort of be in Camp 3. 76 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:07.760 Yet, his predecessor by a hundred years, 77 00:05:07.760 --> 00:05:11.360 Hippocrates, was clearly in the first camp. 78 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:14.560 Now we think of the Hippocratic Oath of do 79 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:17.720 no harm, but the actual quote 80 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:21.320 condemns abortion. Here it is, 81 00:05:21.320 --> 00:05:26.640 I will give no deadly medicine to anyone if asked, nor suggest any such counsel, 82 00:05:26.640 --> 00:05:30.840 and in like manner I will not give to a woman a pessary to produce 83 00:05:30.840 --> 00:05:34.520 abortion. With purity and holiness 84 00:05:34.520 --> 00:05:37.520 I will pass my life and practice my 85 00:05:37.520 --> 00:05:42.320 art. So, Hippocrates believed it was wrong for a medical doctor 86 00:05:42.320 --> 00:05:46.880 to help induce abortions. Augustine, the Christian scholar, declared that 87 00:05:46.880 --> 00:05:51.640 abortion was not a homicide, but it was a sin. He was sort of in the second camp. 88 00:05:51.640 --> 00:05:54.840 Many Christian denominations today are in that second camp. 89 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:59.640 But the man whose namesake the Lutheran Church was established, Martin Luther, 90 00:05:59.640 --> 00:06:03.760 said, and this is his quote, the God who declares that we are to be fruitful and 91 00:06:03.760 --> 00:06:04.640 multiply 92 00:06:04.640 --> 00:06:09.000 regards it as a great evil when human beings destroy their offspring. 93 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:13.560 He also condemned the practice where women would apparently jump on another 94 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:17.200 pregnant woman's belly to induce an abortion. Apparently those 95 00:06:17.200 --> 00:06:21.320 Germans didn't know about the herbs used years before by the Syrenes. 96 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:25.840 John Calvin was clearly in the first camp. He wrote in his commentary 97 00:06:25.840 --> 00:06:31.120 the following, the unborn though enclosed in the womb of his mother is already 98 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:34.440 a human being and it's almost monstrous 99 00:06:34.440 --> 00:06:37.800 of a crime to rob it of life 100 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:41.400 which it has not yet begun to enjoy. Now 101 00:06:41.400 --> 00:06:44.600 he was on pretty solid footing. The Old Testament laid out two arguments against 102 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:45.120 abortion. 103 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:48.520 The first argument against abortion in the Old Testament was that life was from 104 00:06:48.520 --> 00:06:48.920 God. 105 00:06:49.080 --> 00:06:52.280 He created the life in the womb uniquely and in his image. 106 00:06:52.280 --> 00:06:56.640 The second was property. This argument was a bit complicated but it acknowledged 107 00:06:56.640 --> 00:06:57.880 that accidents happen. 108 00:06:57.880 --> 00:07:01.600 So if someone accidentally injured a woman while she was pregnant 109 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:05.400 and that caused a miscarriage, that person 110 00:07:05.400 --> 00:07:09.360 would be required to pay a fine to help cover the cost 111 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:12.760 and the grief of the miscarriage. You don't grieve 112 00:07:12.760 --> 00:07:18.280 for an it, you grieve for a person. So in the early centuries AD most to the West 113 00:07:18.280 --> 00:07:18.880 allowed 114 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:22.920 for abortion before quickening. Now quickening is roughly defined 115 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:26.920 as the first time the mother can feel the cute little baby 116 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:31.360 kick. So this belief was that the life was not formed until somewhere between 117 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:32.960 14 and 26 weeks 118 00:07:32.960 --> 00:07:37.160 into the pregnancy. The concept here was that God might have set things in motion 119 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:40.200 to form some of the physical aspects of the fetus but the fetus 120 00:07:40.200 --> 00:07:43.400 was not a living breathing life with a soul 121 00:07:43.400 --> 00:07:47.200 until about midterm or about 18 to 20 weeks on average. 122 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:51.040 So even the people of faith until 123 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:56.240 until really about the 1800s it was not a moral problem to destroy the fetus 124 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:59.800 for the Westerners up to the quickening. Before the quickening 125 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:04.000 the fetus was not considered a life yet. Science had not yet proven 126 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:08.040 that after the egg attaches to the uterus some cells become 127 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:11.880 the placenta while others become the embryo. They had no idea that the heart 128 00:08:11.880 --> 00:08:13.400 begins beating during week 129 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.840 five. They didn't know that the brain spinal cord and other 130 00:08:16.840 --> 00:08:20.520 organs are beginning to form at the same time. They had no idea that a high 131 00:08:20.520 --> 00:08:21.840 visibility picture 132 00:08:21.840 --> 00:08:25.720 at week eight shows a small but fully formed 133 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:30.440 fetus. They had no idea that the fetus was growing and developing on its own in 134 00:08:30.440 --> 00:08:31.520 a protective womb. 135 00:08:31.520 --> 00:08:34.520 So abortion up to the time of quickening 136 00:08:34.520 --> 00:08:38.280 was viewed as no greater ethical problem up through the 1800s 137 00:08:38.280 --> 00:08:41.799 than just some form of surgery. Now at this time 138 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:45.080 England was actually much more strict than the US. 139 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:49.480 In England up until 1803 abortion was defined as a crime 140 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:52.720 after quickening. So they had that same concept of quickening 141 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:56.760 and you could get the death penalty for having an abortion past midterm. 142 00:08:56.760 --> 00:09:01.400 Before then it was allowed. In 1837 English law abolished both 143 00:09:01.400 --> 00:09:04.760 the significance of quickening weakened the definition 144 00:09:04.760 --> 00:09:08.920 and the death penalty for abortion was out the window. By the 1920s 145 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:12.320 English law added an exception for preserving the life of the mother 146 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:16.920 and in 1938 England expanded the life of the mother to include potential mental 147 00:09:16.920 --> 00:09:21.080 anguish. And this really broadened things. It came from a rape case of a 148 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:25.400 poor little 14-year-old girl. So the judge argued that the continuance of the 149 00:09:25.400 --> 00:09:26.160 pregnancy 150 00:09:26.160 --> 00:09:29.840 could cause the mother to be a physical or mental wreck. Those were his words. 151 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:33.400 And as such the jury can expand and broaden the definition of preserving the 152 00:09:33.400 --> 00:09:34.280 life of the mother. 153 00:09:34.280 --> 00:09:40.040 Now back in America abortion was common in colonial times. 154 00:09:40.040 --> 00:09:43.320 So before we were a country they used black root 155 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:47.640 and cedar root as well as other methods. In the British colonies 156 00:09:47.640 --> 00:09:52.160 in the US abortions were legal if they were performed before 157 00:09:52.160 --> 00:09:55.160 quickening. That was the time frame when they thought life started. 158 00:09:55.160 --> 00:09:58.800 They were illegal in Spanish and Portuguese colonies 159 00:09:58.800 --> 00:09:59.480 pretty much all the time. 160 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:06.000 The French colonies allowed abortions even though they were technically illegal, they just kind of looked the other way. 161 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:11.000 There is evidence of legal and medical records of abortions dating all the way back into that colonial period. 162 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:17.000 In some instances it was kept hush-hush, but that was more due to the stigma of unmarried sex. 163 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:22.000 It was not really kept hush-hush due to the belief that you were potentially killing a child. 164 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:29.000 As long as the abortion was performed before quickening, it was believed that the fetus was not alive yet and it was allowed. 165 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:36.000 Now, in the United States after the Declaration of Independence, which was in 1776, as you know, 166 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:45.000 until the mid-1800s abortion was viewed as socially unacceptable but not illegal in most states. 167 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:53.000 During the 1860s a whole bunch of states started passing laws outlawing abortion, but they were ambiguous and pretty hard to enforce. 168 00:10:53.000 --> 00:11:00.000 After 1860, stronger laws against abortion were passed and these laws were more vigorously enforced. 169 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:07.000 As a result, many women began utilizing underground abortion services. They were all over the place, lots of midwives. 170 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:14.000 While England was liberalizing their abortion laws, the United States was going in the opposite direction in those 1800s. 171 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:20.000 Theories abound on why that's the case, but the most likely answer to the question why 172 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:27.000 is the impact of two famous preachers who crisscrossed the country and the campaign of the Catholic Church. 173 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:35.000 The famous preacher and founder of the Methodist Church, John Wesley, emphasized spreading the gospel and renewing the church. 174 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:44.000 Abortion itself wasn't a big public issue for him. However, he opposed slavery and he made a detailed case for the government to put a stop to it. 175 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:53.000 He systematically and methodically, like he always did, he was a methodical Methodist, made an argument for the sacredness of human life. 176 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:58.000 He communicated how all people are created by God and they all have equal value. 177 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:03.000 Now Wesley died in 1791, just after we became a country and had our constitution ratified. 178 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:08.000 But he made a powerful point that had an impact on the state legislators later. 179 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:13.000 He argued against the libertarian notion that morals cannot be implemented at all through government. 180 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:18.000 He largely agreed that matters of the soul should be left to preachers and the free choice of people. 181 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:24.000 But Wesley made the case that it does help the nation to have some government guardrails to protect the innocent. 182 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:30.000 And he argued that slaves were innocent and they needed protecting. 183 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:38.000 This argument, along with Charles Finney, set the Catholics up for their concerted campaign 184 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:44.000 to make a moral equivalency argument between abortion and slavery. 185 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:50.000 They were both significant human rights violations. 186 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:55.000 So Charles Finney comes along and he was born a year after Wesley died, so he kind of carries you through the 1800s. 187 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:59.000 He was another real famous revival preacher that made his way across the United States. 188 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:02.000 He died in 1875. 189 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:06.000 Like many Protestants, he was a staunch opponent of slavery. 190 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:09.000 He helped slaves escape in the Underground Railroad. 191 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:13.000 And he would not serve communion to anyone who was involved in the slave trade. 192 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:19.000 He scolded churches in the South that did not take the right position on this abundantly clear human rights issue. 193 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:24.000 And he said that Christians who had slaves were absolutely living in sin. 194 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:27.000 And they needed to repent and change. 195 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:31.000 In churches that ignored the horror of slavery, he said they were complicit. 196 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:35.000 And by their silence, they were also part of the sin of slavery. 197 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:38.000 He said that slavery was a massive social wrong. 198 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:41.000 It was against God's principles and the church had better change 199 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:44.000 or the country was going to find itself in a bloody war. 200 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:48.000 Unfortunately, he was right about the bloody war. 201 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:51.000 But the Catholic Church took note. 202 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:56.000 The arguments he made against slavery were absolute arguments against slavery. 203 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:00.000 And to them, the same case could be made for the argument against abortion. 204 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:03.000 These are innocent people and they should be protected. 205 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:06.000 Slaves are innocent, worthy of freedom, dignity, and equal treatment. 206 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:09.000 The lives of the unborn are the most innocent of all. 207 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:12.000 They also deserve legal protection. 208 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:19.000 So in the mid-1800s, the Catholics led the charge to make those abortion laws that were kind of opaque more explicit. 209 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:24.000 An interesting partner for the Catholics in the mid-1800s was the medical profession. 210 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:29.000 It appears that they just wanted the midwives out of the business, that the doctors wanted control. 211 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:34.000 And they made the case that abortions were unsafe unless they were conducting them. 212 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:36.000 Never mind that these midwives had done it for years. 213 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:41.000 The Catholic Church allowed for this questionable partner to come along board because it added heft. 214 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:48.000 But the Catholic Church really, they're the ones that built the logical and the spiritual case for life. 215 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.000 Now their logical case kind of went like this. 216 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:56.000 The fetus cannot be understood to be a part of the mother's body in the same way of another organ or tissue. 217 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:59.000 The womb creates an environment for the fetus to grow and develop. 218 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:03.320 Out, it's either a boy or a girl. 219 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:06.720 The mom has no male genitalia. 220 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:08.280 She doesn't have any of that to give. 221 00:15:08.280 --> 00:15:11.920 Therefore, the developing baby cannot be part of her body. 222 00:15:11.920 --> 00:15:13.800 The womb in her body is a protective place 223 00:15:13.800 --> 00:15:17.600 where both the sperm and the egg combine and develop. 224 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:19.600 Now, they didn't know empirically like we do 225 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:21.680 that when the sperm penetrates the egg 226 00:15:21.680 --> 00:15:23.800 that the surface of the egg changes 227 00:15:23.800 --> 00:15:25.780 so that no other sperm can enter. 228 00:15:25.780 --> 00:15:28.440 And I don't think they knew scientifically like we do 229 00:15:28.460 --> 00:15:30.380 that at that moment of fertilization, 230 00:15:30.380 --> 00:15:33.760 the baby's genetic makeup is totally complete, 231 00:15:33.760 --> 00:15:35.860 including whether it's a boy or girl, 232 00:15:35.860 --> 00:15:39.080 but they made a pretty compelling logical case. 233 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:41.060 Now, their spiritual case started with, 234 00:15:41.060 --> 00:15:43.080 thou shalt not murder. 235 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:45.700 The Bible defines murder as a killing for convenience. 236 00:15:45.700 --> 00:15:48.680 In other words, all killings that are not in self-defense 237 00:15:48.680 --> 00:15:50.780 or in a justified war. 238 00:15:50.780 --> 00:15:55.400 Taking the life of innocent beings qualifies. 239 00:15:56.400 --> 00:15:58.640 They continued their argument with Genesis 127, 240 00:15:58.640 --> 00:16:02.200 where God said, let us make both male and female 241 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:03.960 in our image. 242 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:06.640 And they noted that it's the only special creation event 243 00:16:06.640 --> 00:16:09.280 where God identifies himself as us. 244 00:16:09.280 --> 00:16:11.900 In other words, all the other creation events are important, 245 00:16:11.900 --> 00:16:14.240 but this is the one where we, the Trinity, 246 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:15.840 engage in creating people. 247 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:17.560 It's special. 248 00:16:17.560 --> 00:16:21.520 And it always results in a boy or a girl 249 00:16:21.520 --> 00:16:24.060 created in God's image. 250 00:16:24.100 --> 00:16:25.900 They continued with Psalm 139, 251 00:16:25.900 --> 00:16:28.300 where we're told that God fashions each child 252 00:16:28.300 --> 00:16:29.300 together in the womb. 253 00:16:29.300 --> 00:16:32.140 And in Jeremiah, where we find that God actually knows us 254 00:16:32.140 --> 00:16:33.660 before we're born. 255 00:16:33.660 --> 00:16:35.980 And that makes sense since God's all knowing. 256 00:16:35.980 --> 00:16:38.020 And that validates that there's someone to know. 257 00:16:38.020 --> 00:16:39.540 It's a person. 258 00:16:39.540 --> 00:16:42.100 Then the Catholic Church demonstrated 259 00:16:42.100 --> 00:16:43.620 in many places in scripture, 260 00:16:43.620 --> 00:16:46.500 where God is against the shedding of innocent blood. 261 00:16:46.500 --> 00:16:48.320 And that since God's the giver of life, 262 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:52.500 we should not intervene, especially with the innocent. 263 00:16:52.500 --> 00:16:54.260 The campaign by the Catholic Church 264 00:16:54.260 --> 00:16:56.420 was a very effective campaign. 265 00:16:56.420 --> 00:17:00.780 And by 1910, abortion was illegal in all of the USA 266 00:17:00.780 --> 00:17:04.060 with only one exception, to save the life of the mother. 267 00:17:05.540 --> 00:17:07.940 But there was a counterforce developing. 268 00:17:09.180 --> 00:17:12.700 This is how abortions became illegal in the first place. 269 00:17:12.700 --> 00:17:14.720 But next time, we're gonna look at how the stage was set 270 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:16.200 for abortion to become legal 271 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:19.500 in the whole United States by 1973. 272 00:17:19.500 --> 00:17:22.339 Until then, to your freedom. 273 00:17:23.220 --> 00:17:24.619 Hi, 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