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Hey, what's going on.

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Hey,

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happy Tuesday, hopefully everyone well in the US had a good Memorial Day.

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Sorry guys I got stuff buzzing and ringing.

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So popular.

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Okay.

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So we're gonna kick it off with maybe two to three wins, and then we'll pray and then we'll jump right in. Does anyone have a win that they want to share.

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But this week. Go ahead, Marion, you can unmute yourself. It's not just this week but a while back I asked for help with my Instagram because I really wasn't doing too well with it.

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And ever since then it's just shot up.

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I don't think it's just me I think it's the prayers as well.

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It went from, from I think 60 to 160. Wow, really good and I'm so impressed. So awesome. Thank you everybody.

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That is so cool.

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Anyone else we got room for maybe one two more.

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Then we'll pray.

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No one knows.

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She is better.

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Yes, I was just gonna say thank you everyone for your prayers start covering but I'm definitely much better than I was, and also Hannah is basically back to normal she bounced back really quick so we're thankful for that.

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Yay.

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All right, so I don't see any other hand so I'm gonna just jump in and pray and we'll get going. So father we thank you so much for bringing us here together Lord just to be built up again and be edified and get clarity and just all the different things

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that we're looking for God as we continue on with the mission of God as we continue on with the message that you've given us Lord. So I pray that Lord, even in this crazy world where there's so much darkness, that we will remain thinking on things

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that are lovely things that are good report things that are praiseworthy Oh God, that we will focus in on those things Oh God, that we will be aware.

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Oh God of the enemy's tactics Oh God and we will cast down and we won't even pay him any attention actually, but we will press forward Oh God, with the message that you've given us.

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Lord so we just bless everyone here everyone that will watch on the replay, we were, we bless Bruce and both Lindsay, as they shared during this time, and we just welcome you in Holy Spirit in Jesus name we pray, amen and amen.

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Awesome guys it's good to hang out with you it's good to have Lindsay back with us here. And so we had a couple quick things. We just wanted to share with you guys, and then we'll jump into questions we don't have anyone that has submitted any questions

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ahead of time so if you guys have something you can, you know, raise your zoom hand and we'll, we'll go through it.

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So one thing is you guys hopefully got an email to get access to the roadmap 2.0.

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We did update that a couple weeks back and it's just taken a while to get everything just exactly where it needs to be on King messenger but we did Lisa yesterday.

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And as we add new training. You guys are going to kind of see the training here first because you're in members so you'll kind of see it live or you'll see it in the Facebook group but it is also going to get archived over into the roadmap.

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So if you're wanting to go into any of those topics or you're still like maybe you haven't looked at it in a while, definitely go back and check it out we've we've revamped it as far as the order, we have tick tock and short form content happening

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first, we talked a lot about the origin story and then how to use Facebook ads to promote that. And then we've got another a bunch of other great kind of modules after that that help you integrate the long form content so that's there.

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You guys all got that, you know, just for free because you're our favorite people in the first.

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I'm just kidding, you guys are all favorite.

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And so that's there and then if you guys have any trouble you can always email us if you can't get in to the site or don't have access or whatever but hopefully it's all good.

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And the other thing is that we were just talking I'd love to get just kind of a sense from you guys.

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We're thinking like how to use like the these Tuesday calls even better. And we haven't done a lot of like consistent training like new training with with you guys we're doing a masterclass here or there, but we were thinking, want to see what you guys

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think about maybe doing like every other week on a Tuesday doing a little bit more of like a

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a 30, 40 minute training and then doing some Q and A after that, um, on a particular topic and then

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other weeks just doing straight Q and A. So I don't know if you have any thoughts or feedback

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or what would be the most helpful for you guys? Good. Thumbs up from Ben. Awesome. All good. Okay.

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So we'll, we'll try that. We'd love to, um, you know, there's, there's a number of topics, um,

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as we're talking to you guys and having, um, interaction, we're finding there's specific

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topics for like, oh, we could go create a video for that. Um, so if you guys have anything that

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you're like, man, I'm always being confused about this part of anchor or something that's more than

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just like something we can solve in a 10, five, 10 minute answer on a Q and A, maybe we can take

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a whole session if you, and cause if we know what that question is and we can take some time to

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sort of prepare a better training on it, we can put something really cool together that I think

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will help everyone. Um, so if you guys have that, you can either email it, you can drop a note,

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tag me in Facebook group. You can talk about it on this call. Now, if you want,

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we'd love to, um, have you guys, um, part of that, because I think this group,

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majority of the people, there's a few that aren't, but we're going to be, we're kind of

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running in this format until September, which is where everybody's like that kind of everything

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resets. Cause if you joined back in like January of 2021, we just kept like extending your

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membership out, um, you know, all the way through to September of this year. So,

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um, we'll have some cool things. We're not going to like close, you know, everything down,

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but we've got some cool things planned for that, um, to really simplify things, I think a little

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bit more, but so that that's all our stuff. I don't know, Lindsay, if you wanted to add anything

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to that, any of that or not. Um, Oh, she may not be there. So, okay, cool. Um, well let's jump in.

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I see Xavier's got his hand raised. So we'll jump into some, some questions.

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Well, I was just, I was just going to comment on what you just said, which I think is a,

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is a really great idea because I've probably spent more time lurking in the shadows because

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I'm working during the calls or whatnot. And so I'm always listening and picking up stuff,

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but I think to let the every other week format, as you've kind of mentioned, I think that would

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be good to put structure to it because it continues to propel us forward, you know,

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and so that we can, we can kind of grow into stuff that we might not even realize yet.

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So I just wanted to say, I'm all for that. Awesome. Um, and we are like, like we did,

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we're getting back into doing some tech Tuesdays. So hopefully you guys got the email this morning.

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Um, so these are just different, again, these are some of the questions that are coming up,

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even in some of the, um, just even one-on-ones that we're having with some of you guys.

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And as we're launching tribe, um, that has been helpful to hear, like where, where there's some

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gaps that we're able to make some tutorials, but between that you can definitely do some,

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like more, um, in-depth training, but yeah, I see, uh, Ben had his hand raised.

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Yeah, I just wanted to say, I liked the idea a lot. I think that's great. Um, you know,

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questions obviously is awesome to have, but some training, um, and some topics sounds like a very

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cool idea. Yeah. Thank you. Awesome. Um, and then I have a question when you say September,

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everything resets, what does that mean or how does it continue? Will we have still access to the,

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um, to the portal or, you know, what? Yeah. So, so the King messenger TV, I think, um, everybody

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on this group has that for life. So you guys have it. That's not, none of that would go away. Um,

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we're just, we don't have a specific plan for it yet. We're going to kind of rethink some of the

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formats of how do we make the most of these calls? Like we're experimenting with this one week on

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one week off for the, um, training and then coaching and kind of flip-flopping maybe a good

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way to try it out. Um, but yeah, we'll we're, we're continuing to do what we're doing. That's

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not going to, no, we're not going anywhere in September, but, um, so that's, that's that. Um,

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but we'll have, we'll definitely have a lot more and you guys will be the first to know as soon as

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we have a plan. Right. So we won't, we won't leave you guys hanging. That's good to hear. I was

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already a little bit scared, you know, kind of miss you guys. Awesome. Um, yeah, but that point,

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some of you guys will have been with us for like 20 months, I think. Is that right? Yeah. Because

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it was like January all the way through January, 2021, all the way to September. So there's a few

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of you guys still still in here. Is anyone on the call who was in the January group? I'm I know I

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have it written down somewhere, but I didn't know if anyone was. And okay. Oh, Marcello,

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you were in the, I'm not sure. I guess. Yes, but I probably, okay. Marcello was, there you go.

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And she's still, she still likes hanging out with us. So I guess we're doing something right.

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You're doing an amazing job.

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She keeps showing up, so awesome.

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And then, yeah, Denise, I saw your hand raised.

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Look forward to the training every other week.

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And I was wondering too about what happens,

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I'm glad that someone asked that and that we're all.

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What I was wondering,

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I just had a couple of questions just on technical stuff.

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So when you get ready for that.

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Yeah, go for it.

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Jump in, yeah.

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So when I post on my anchor and like I'm still,

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we're still having a lot of life issues come up.

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but when you post, it says, do you want to boost this?

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I'm gonna pull it up right now.

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It asks me when I post, do you want to boost this?

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And do you want to do a poll?

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I have, let me see if I can pull that up.

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Let's see.

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And I think it says,

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do you want to ask a specific question?

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So I'm just kind of curious what that is.

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Yeah, so boosting I'm familiar with on Face.

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I'm just gonna do a quick test here on one of these account.

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So when you schedule something,

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I'm just gonna pretend this is going out tomorrow.

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Oh yeah, yeah, let me share my screen.

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I see what you're talking about.

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This add a poll.

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So this is just for Spotify.

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So if you're listening on Spotify,

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then there's some other little functionality.

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So you see this as only.

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So I'm just gonna do that.

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So, yes.

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And then how would you do a poll or ask a question?

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Would that even be worth doing on Spotify?

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I wouldn't, we've never used this.

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I wouldn't really worry about it.

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I would say like a very small percentage of your users

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are gonna be on Spotify here.

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So I wouldn't spend a lot of time worrying about that.

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I would put them in the show notes,

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which is like your episode description.

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you could list out some notes or whatever.

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other than in a Facebook group,

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but you definitely could.

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I wouldn't do it.

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I wouldn't use it here,

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but we do typically fill all this stuff out as always.

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is this what you're talking about?

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Where it says like, do you wanna share it?

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So that's just taking like the links.

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this just takes a link to that episode

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and lets me share it on Facebook.

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which just takes you basically to the posture page.

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So it's probably good to do that on your Facebook page

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that's connected to your podcast, right?

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so the best thing to do is to upload the videos

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So we don't really do a lot of cross posting

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you do wanna let people go back to YouTube

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like the full version of content.

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are gonna go listen on Anchor and all the podcast side,

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people on Facebook are gonna listen on Facebook.

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So you can definitely share a link to it.

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If you're like, hey, our podcast is live,

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a new podcast episode is live,

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you can definitely use the share link.

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It's not, there's nothing wrong with that.

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But if you can, if you do have video,

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then I would upload the video.

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But if it's just audio,

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then I would just share the link to this here.

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Okay, great, thank you.

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And you can always come back to these,

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like these are the old episodes here.

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You can click this little share button

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and just share this episode here.

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So if I took this link, for example,

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Yeah, if I just put this in here,

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you'll see like when I paste the link,

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it'll build a little thing for it down here,

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like with the image and the text and all that stuff.

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And so if you wanna be really fancy, you can, yes.

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Go ahead.

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If you wanna show people

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that you really know what you're doing

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is you can just paste the link like I just did there.

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And then you can delete the link

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because this whole box is a link.

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So you don't need to have the link in there.

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then you can just write your text and it's just nice and clean.

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Oh, I like that. I like that. Yeah. And that's, this is one way to,

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cause I was wondering how you get, start getting conversations going and create a place where they

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can ask questions and they do it through your Facebook page. But part of that is you have to

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refer them there and let them know you have a Facebook page. And so it would make sense that

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you would just put the link there and upload that. Yeah. Just a link. And, and, you know,

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people are going to, podcasts are a little bit different. Like people are going to watch them.

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I'm trying to see if there's like a, Oh yeah. See here. Like I said, 10%. So it's like 33%

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on Spotify, at least for Lindsey and then other. So most people are listening on Apple podcasts,

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but you do want to let people know that there is an Apple podcast. So when they go to this page,

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there's like a little link down here, which takes people right to Apple. And if they click on that,

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see now it goes to apple.com and there's my, my whole app and yours has all this,

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like it has all this built out for you. Okay. So when you go back one, so that page,

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was that your anchor? This is your anchor thing. Okay. Cause I don't think I have that

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where to listen thing. Do you have to put that in? Have you, if you go to your settings and go

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podcast availability, there should be like some different settings set up here.

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Okay. Yeah. It should be there. Okay. Well I'm on it. I'm on iTunes. I'm on.

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It should create that link, I believe for you automatically. There's really not a whole lot

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you can do to change stuff and anchor as far as the settings go. So let me just look on my

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dashboard. I think it is there, but I'm just not, I just don't remember being there. Okay.

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It looks like it's, I don't, yeah, I don't have that under mine, so I'm not sure why.

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Can you send, just drop the link here to your, let's just see.

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Oh, Leanne was asking for anchor as well. I'll just answer that. Yeah. If you have the video,

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you definitely can upload that to anchor. We have not tried it yet. And again, all that's

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going to happen is people are going to watch, be able to watch it on Spotify. So it's, again,

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anchor is built by Spotify. So they're doing a bunch of interesting things just for Spotify.

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We typically just use it as a free way to distribute video. So that's good.

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Bruce, those were to listen, that's on your public site. So if you're on your dashboard,

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you may not see it. You need to click. Right. That's why I was going to just see if I could

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grab the link. Yeah. What you would want to do is in your, go to the top here. I think,

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sorry, dashboard. Let me get out of this. There's a public site right here.

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Oh, so if you click, if you're, if you're signed in and you can see your podcast and you see this

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like public site, if you click on that, it should take you to this page.

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I'm sorry. I do want to share your screen. Oh, sorry. I was like, I thought I was sharing my

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screen. That's why I was pointing to things, but yeah, right here. If you just sign in and you

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click public site, that'll take you to this version. This is what everybody else can see.

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I'm only you can see this version. Oh, okay. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. I didn't realize that was

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different, but other people can see what I can see. Thank you. So I'm going to my public site

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and then it is saying, listen on Spotify. It says message and listen on Spotify,

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but it doesn't have those choices like these down here. I might have to see it. I don't know if you

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can share your screen. I'd have to see it. Yes, I can share my screen. I'm sorry. I'm taking so

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much time up here. Should be done. Okay. Yes, I can share it. Yeah. And Leanne was like for the,

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for the videos. Yeah. They will just only be on Spotify from what we can see.

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So it's just Spotify is not a video platform. Everybody wants to have video because it's so

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effective, but I feel like Spotify should just be Spotify. So can you see that? Yeah. Try that.

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Try again. Now try again. What to share your screen? Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. Okay.

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There we go.

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But if I go to Availability, it says Apple.

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Gotcha.

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Okay, let me see if I can kind of navigate this for you.

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If we go to here.

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We said just set this up so see, it's actually not listed out any other is not just needed to load.

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Let's just see here.

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Okay, so this is empty right now. So you have not submitted it to iTunes.

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What will but people can find me on iTunes they find me all the time.

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I just checked mine too and it's missing I think if you're not posting regularly that Apple may drop it, because I know that mine was was there as well.

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I've been good to know.

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This is empty it looks like it's iTunes dot apple.com my podcast what what do you mean it's because that's that's just like the placeholder. So like, when you type something.

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It just disappears, it's just showing you that it should look something like that but it's going to say slash posture or slash something it won't actually say my podcast.

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So what do I do.

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Whenever you like you'll have to put your Apple ID and this is what you would use for your phone.

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And then your password and then once you get in, there should be you should see your podcast in there and you may see something that's what did it say, Xavier What did you see when it.

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It logged back in and it shows that it's there, but it was not showing up.

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So let me go back and see if I can show up.

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So you have to put in your Apple ID Bruce and yeah you got to put in your Apple ID and.

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Yeah, you can sign in if you want but

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I'm not sure.

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But that's a good set basically just once you get into this, just see what you see it you can go try it out and come back at the end of this call if you want we can take a look at it.

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I'm taking a look now to.

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No problem. Yeah, it's again it should be a pretty once it's submitted once should be able to reactivate it pretty quick but awesome.

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I do submit regularly. So that I don't get should have taken it off, but every other weeks. I was just guessing because the same thing has happened to me so I'm redoing it to see.

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You can do that as well like use the anchor. There's an anchor support, I believe there's like a.

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Let me see if I can find it.

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There's like a help page help me I'll drop the link here for you.

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Because that's their product. I mean we can obviously help you with it but you can submit a request and just see what happened.

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Yeah, you just, you can search that website but you can also submit a request and chat with them they have like a little live chat in the bottom right, where you can name and email in and then you can actually start a conversation with them.

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All right, let's go to Marion I see has her hand raised and then we'll go to Marcella.

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Yeah, I had you talked about tribe.

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And what I want to know is, I think I must have started in September I can't remember.

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So I would finish in September.

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Are you going to be teaching us anything about doing tribe.

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And I know that you have this other tribe group that we could have belonged to.

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Everybody on this call has some version of tribe.

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Yeah. Yeah, you did too.

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And actually you joined. You did join in January, and you joined roadmap in November or September and then you also I've got until next January. Yeah, so you're good.

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That, that are even beyond September doesn't change anything for you but you do have access to tribe and I think you just have, have you filled out like the onboarding form for it.

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And there's like a little, I've got, I've got the thing set up so I can go on it. I just okay okay perfect.

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you're running the other tribe group that's teaching them how to?

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Will you be doing any of that with the ones who have the tribe on here?

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Yeah. So we do have a ton of training on this website here, which I'll drop a link to,

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and you guys are all welcome to check that out. And then you can, we basically just made these

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calls available. If you have questions or one strategy, like we can take, you know,

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five, 10 minutes on one of these Tuesday calls and talk through some of that.

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because everybody on these calls does have tribe, we could take, do some of those trainings as well,

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add some more, but there's a lot of videos from here about how to do different things. And all

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the training is kind of built in like video by video. But if you have questions, you can

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definitely use these calls for it. And also, if you just need to know how to do something,

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there is a tribe Facebook group as well. Oh, so we can, I tried to go on there and

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it said I wasn't a member. Okay.

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That may have changed, but... Try again. You can just request it.

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And then because you're in members, Facebook should automatically let you in, but I'll drop

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the link to that as well in the chat. If you want to request it, if for whatever reason,

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it doesn't let you in, I'll just add you as well.

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Okay. Thank you. So we go through a year.

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What happens at the end of the year? We're still members of tribe.

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Yeah. We'll have something really awesome for you guys at some point.

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Oh, that's nice. Exciting to look forward to, right?

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Don't worry. We're basically coming up with... Anyone who's in Kingdom Messengers is going to

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have access to tribe in the cheapest, most affordable way possible.

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groups. So Kingdom Messengers is going to have their own version of tribe.

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of our programs, we'd like to reward the early adopters, let's say.

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That's good. I think I felt a little overwhelmed because you've got all this setup where we can

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look at all the different videos and I really haven't done it because of time constraints.

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That's what everybody feels.

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That's why I'm checking.

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No, you're fine.

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Okay. Thank you, Bruce.

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Sure. Okay. Marcella, you had...

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Yeah. So just real quickly, just a Marian, let me tell you, I started with Bruce and Lindsay

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in 2021, January of 2021. And I'm just, you know, in some areas you have far past me.

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So life just happens. And, you know, we got tribe social. And I think at the time,

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Bruce presented it to us. It was well over my head. I did absolutely nothing with it. I looked

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in it, did a couple of things, and then I was like, it was just too much. So to everybody,

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we're all on our journey. We're going together. And I, just like I put in the chat, you know,

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I come to stay connected because my life outside is quite noisy and will pull me away. And if I

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stop coming and I thank God that they keep it on every Tuesday, because I could stay connected.

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Anyway, that's my little speech. But I have a question about the challenges. You know, I got

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the I think I just did not understand. I think I made a post a live post maybe a couple of weeks

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ago. I was so excited. And so now I've done the masterclass and then I was given the challenges,

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challenge secrets. So I've been going through that. So I have my who down pat, but I don't know

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if I have the wording right. So I'll give you my who first. And then I guess my, my question is

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because Lindsay had it in the, in my, on my, my live video. And then I was like, wait a minute,

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maybe I don't know what I'm doing. Wait a minute. Let me slow down. So my who, oh, wait, I wrote it

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down. Sorry. It's in my notions. Hold on. I'm sorry. I should have been better prepared. Okay.

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But you said it was in your notions. So you just earned some points.

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I use notions on my phone, on my computer, on my tablet, when I'm taking

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notes. I got pictures and everything in there. Yeah. So I

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hope that this is what I think I do. This is what I believe I do.

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But I don't think I haven't worded out right. I help 35 plus

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overworked and unfulfilled church lifers achieve freedom

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and identity in Christ to have fulfilling and authentic

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relationships with God, self and others. I don't have the

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rest of it. That's all I have.

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That's good. I mean, that that that works great. I'd love to

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hear as well. We got a lot of people on the calls. But what

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do you guys have any suggestions for feedback? Does that

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talking in the arena of putting together a challenge for your

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who is what problem are you wanting to help them solve? So

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breakthrough or aha moment, you know?

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I think on the video, and I did not look at the bigger problem.

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that I wrote down last night. I've been up since midnight. So

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please, I'm not up since midnight, but I went to bed

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after midnight working on this. Um, um, one of the things is

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burnout in church work, and losing their identity. I think

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that's one of the problems. So this who is me, really, this is

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who I was, this is who God has redeemed me. It's still redeeming

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me, of course. Also, I mean, I, I think that's one of the

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problems. What else I get on my little notes here. I'm feeling

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unfulfilled in their church service using performance. I

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don't think they realize they use performance performance in

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church. And then finding out they're really they really are

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unfulfilled, but can't tell anybody and I want to help them

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have that fulfilling relationship, authentic

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relationship with God, so that they can serve, right? We do

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more serving. You know, it's been more serving to others, but

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not from an authentic place. And it's just it's me rambling. I

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feel like I'm rambling right now.

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That's okay. This is called processing, which is good. Why

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the coaching calls are for? So are you wanting to help people

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heal a hurt? Is that what it sounds like? And then from that

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place, be empowered to, you know, I'm trying to think of

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what would be the first step? Are you wanting to gather people

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that are disillusioned with church, maybe coming out of

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church, maybe becoming de-churched? Are they still in

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the church?

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Okay, yeah, all of all of that really. Heal process of healing.

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Um, um, yeah, healing. And then I think next steps would be

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getting having I don't even know how to articulate I can't even

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talk this morning. I'm having knowing who they are in Christ.

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Like where I am. So identity. Yeah, identity, definitely

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identity over legalism. You know, that kind of thing. So I

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have all these ideas and messages. And even, you know,

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I've done some small gig speaking engagements, impromptu

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things. And these are the things that have resonated in my

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speaking, even talking about grief, I want to do something

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with you. So I'm just trying to flesh it out. So, Lindsay, I'm

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just having a hard time trying to make why this is hard for me.

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But like, what is a course versus coaching? That's where

424
00:34:03.520 --> 00:34:05.120
I'm stuck. Yeah.

425
00:34:05.560 --> 00:34:08.480
No, I think you're good. I think what you've got here is I'm

426
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:13.159
just making some notes. I think because here's one thing, it's

427
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:19.120
hard to it's hard to create a who that's like, for a bunch of

428
00:34:19.120 --> 00:34:20.880
things, like, this is what I'm going to work with the next five

429
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:24.719
years. Try to think of like, a who just for if you've got a

430
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:27.360
challenge in front of you, like think about a who just for that

431
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.760
one challenge, it'll make it a lot easier. Because you can say

432
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:34.800
for that one challenge, we're going to spend three days and

433
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:39.520
help you avoid, you know, church burnout or something that or

434
00:34:39.520 --> 00:34:45.840
help. Is it for people who are in ministry or work at a church?

435
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:46.199
Is that,

436
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:52.880
you know, I, I think my first thought was ministry leaders.

437
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.240
Yeah. And then, because I also was kind of fleshing it out with

438
00:34:57.240 --> 00:35:00.000
my family group. And so they were the ones that

439
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.080
kind of give me the words of a church lifers.

440
00:35:03.080 --> 00:35:04.880
I hate that Hillary's not on today.

441
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.560
Hillary was a big proponent, you know,

442
00:35:07.560 --> 00:35:09.540
to help me get this going.

443
00:35:10.520 --> 00:35:13.200
Cause I just didn't have any idea,

444
00:35:13.200 --> 00:35:15.240
but people that have, you know,

445
00:35:15.240 --> 00:35:17.260
served in church a long time,

446
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.000
that get wrapped up into serving

447
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.360
and then find out this is not, you know,

448
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:26.760
my life is really, my relationship with God

449
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:29.960
is not really what I thought it was.

450
00:35:30.720 --> 00:35:32.640
It's like having that awareness.

451
00:35:32.640 --> 00:35:35.640
Like I want, he promised me abundant life,

452
00:35:35.640 --> 00:35:37.160
but I don't have it.

453
00:35:37.160 --> 00:35:38.920
Why don't I have it?

454
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:43.800
That's, I want to help guide them to that answer.

455
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:44.680
Okay.

456
00:35:44.680 --> 00:35:46.000
And do you feel like,

457
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:49.840
do you have an idea of like where you want to,

458
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.720
so people are here, they're potentially facing burnout.

459
00:35:52.720 --> 00:35:56.280
You're going to help them avoid burnout or avoid that.

460
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:58.760
I mean, obviously you're not doing that in three days.

461
00:35:59.720 --> 00:36:00.640
We can't do a lot in three,

462
00:36:00.640 --> 00:36:03.240
but you can, it's a way to encourage them, right?

463
00:36:03.240 --> 00:36:05.140
And just to help them build community.

464
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:10.320
Cause one of the ways I'm sure to avoid burnout

465
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:12.040
is to have connection and community.

466
00:36:12.040 --> 00:36:15.520
Cause you mentioned the word connection as well.

467
00:36:15.520 --> 00:36:18.340
So that's part of what you're creating in this group.

468
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:23.080
Do you, I mean, did you have an idea of like what the,

469
00:36:23.080 --> 00:36:25.360
like what's the big,

470
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:27.720
they talk about it as sort of like the big opportunity.

471
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.320
Like what is the thing you're inviting people into?

472
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:35.400
I think from listening to Pedro,

473
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.920
I think it's a course.

474
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:41.080
I thought I was doing coaching,

475
00:36:41.080 --> 00:36:44.000
but I don't want to kill myself in one-to-one coaching.

476
00:36:45.600 --> 00:36:47.320
I think it's more of a course.

477
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.320
But also that's not a problem yet.

478
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.200
So we don't want to solve problems that aren't problems yet.

479
00:36:52.200 --> 00:36:53.040
Okay.

480
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:57.680
Yeah. You can wait, like get to where you are.

481
00:36:57.680 --> 00:36:58.720
Like, I don't have enough time

482
00:36:58.720 --> 00:37:00.000
to keep doing these coaching calls.

483
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:01.600
And then you could like think of an alternative

484
00:37:01.600 --> 00:37:03.920
because that would get you in front of people.

485
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.200
It is very, it's a lot easier to work with one person

486
00:37:06.200 --> 00:37:08.360
than to have like 15 people.

487
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:12.720
Well, I say that because I do have experience

488
00:37:12.720 --> 00:37:15.560
like doing therapy and I do have experiencing

489
00:37:15.560 --> 00:37:19.600
doing free coaching in church for free over the years.

490
00:37:19.600 --> 00:37:20.440
And it's like-

491
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:21.260
Is that called that?

492
00:37:21.260 --> 00:37:22.100
I think it's called being a pastor.

493
00:37:22.100 --> 00:37:23.260
Is that the, I'm just kidding.

494
00:37:23.260 --> 00:37:24.100
I don't know what they,

495
00:37:24.100 --> 00:37:26.100
nobody ever called me pastor before this.

496
00:37:26.100 --> 00:37:26.940
I'm joking.

497
00:37:28.180 --> 00:37:32.300
You know, it just, so I know my limits in terms of that.

498
00:37:32.300 --> 00:37:37.300
And I've given a lot of great work for free

499
00:37:38.020 --> 00:37:40.540
and I'm done with that part.

500
00:37:40.540 --> 00:37:41.940
I need to-

501
00:37:41.940 --> 00:37:43.820
Yeah. I think that's,

502
00:37:43.820 --> 00:37:46.900
yeah, I don't think you should do it for free, I think.

503
00:37:46.900 --> 00:37:51.900
But I think it's more like,

504
00:37:52.980 --> 00:37:55.140
you have some sort of breakthrough that you've reached

505
00:37:55.140 --> 00:37:57.300
that you want to help people.

506
00:37:57.300 --> 00:37:58.780
Was Susie, were you waving?

507
00:37:58.780 --> 00:37:59.620
Did you have something to say?

508
00:37:59.620 --> 00:38:00.860
Okay.

509
00:38:00.860 --> 00:38:02.020
And I see what,

510
00:38:02.020 --> 00:38:05.020
there's some comments as well from Denise and others,

511
00:38:05.020 --> 00:38:08.300
but oh, Lindsay, yeah, I'll let you speak.

512
00:38:08.300 --> 00:38:09.180
I was just gonna say,

513
00:38:09.180 --> 00:38:13.640
I feel like there's a connection with the grief

514
00:38:13.640 --> 00:38:18.380
and this kind of church life or burnout scenario

515
00:38:18.380 --> 00:38:20.580
because it is a level of grief

516
00:38:20.580 --> 00:38:23.700
when you've given your life to the organizational church

517
00:38:23.700 --> 00:38:25.620
and you realize after a lot of people,

518
00:38:25.620 --> 00:38:29.140
after years, maybe decades, it's not working.

519
00:38:29.140 --> 00:38:30.060
Right.

520
00:38:30.060 --> 00:38:33.180
And they're grieving and they don't know where to go.

521
00:38:33.180 --> 00:38:35.260
They don't know what to do.

522
00:38:35.260 --> 00:38:38.060
And so I think there's something within that,

523
00:38:38.060 --> 00:38:40.660
there's an intersection for you with the grief,

524
00:38:43.060 --> 00:38:48.060
counseling piece and this, hey, let's heal.

525
00:38:48.580 --> 00:38:49.420
Oh my gosh.

526
00:38:51.580 --> 00:38:52.500
Uh-oh.

527
00:38:52.500 --> 00:38:53.940
I think someone just fell.

528
00:38:54.980 --> 00:38:56.380
I hope she's okay.

529
00:38:56.380 --> 00:38:57.500
Give me one second.

530
00:38:57.500 --> 00:39:00.660
I'm sure someone else has something good to say.

531
00:39:00.660 --> 00:39:05.060
Yeah, I'm loving where you're going with it, Marcella,

532
00:39:05.060 --> 00:39:08.780
because I think it's really true that sometimes,

533
00:39:08.780 --> 00:39:12.140
especially those that have a role in your church,

534
00:39:12.140 --> 00:39:15.420
whether you're a deacon or a pastor,

535
00:39:15.420 --> 00:39:16.700
youth pastor or whatever,

536
00:39:16.700 --> 00:39:20.260
you find your identity in that

537
00:39:20.940 --> 00:39:23.700
and you lose your relationship with the Lord,

538
00:39:24.660 --> 00:39:26.860
because you're trying to prepare for your sermon.

539
00:39:26.860 --> 00:39:29.420
And it was right along with what Denise had typed

540
00:39:29.420 --> 00:39:32.140
into the chat.

541
00:39:32.140 --> 00:39:37.100
And so just trying to find that place of helping,

542
00:39:37.100 --> 00:39:39.140
I think what you were saying was trying to help them

543
00:39:39.140 --> 00:39:41.060
to find their true identity,

544
00:39:41.060 --> 00:39:44.740
that it's not wrapped up in being the youth pastor

545
00:39:44.740 --> 00:39:49.180
or the evangelist, whatever the case may be.

546
00:39:50.060 --> 00:39:53.580
And they might've been doing it for quite some time,

547
00:39:53.580 --> 00:39:55.180
being a leader or whatever,

548
00:39:55.180 --> 00:39:58.180
or holding a role at their church,

549
00:39:58.180 --> 00:40:00.420
and then they have lost the relationship.

550
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.440
relationship piece because they've only been focused on what they do.

551
00:40:05.240 --> 00:40:05.520
Yeah.

552
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:09.600
Is that, sounded like that's one of the things you.

553
00:40:10.520 --> 00:40:14.520
I kept saying over the, this has been kind of an ongoing thing until

554
00:40:14.520 --> 00:40:15.920
I ran into Bruce and Lindsay.

555
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:20.800
Um, I've been saying, you know, I don't want to work for God and not

556
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.200
work with God or work with Holy spirit.

557
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:25.280
You know, I, I know what that is.

558
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:25.800
Right.

559
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:28.160
Um, that that's been in my life.

560
00:40:28.160 --> 00:40:32.120
And so this awareness and process has come through the passing of

561
00:40:32.120 --> 00:40:33.400
my parents who were pastors.

562
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:36.040
And now I'm saying, okay, what does my life mean now?

563
00:40:36.040 --> 00:40:40.920
So that, that through this, through all of this kingdom messenger, all of

564
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:45.840
this is all the things that's been resonating with me and then me working

565
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:51.040
it out with myself to find out, Hey, that, that, that I thought I

566
00:40:51.040 --> 00:40:53.160
was, is that who I really am?

567
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:59.400
So, um, I just, so I just struggle with the pack, like putting it

568
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:01.240
together, not going too much.

569
00:41:01.560 --> 00:41:03.560
What's the simple five day thing.

570
00:41:03.560 --> 00:41:06.720
And then what, how do I, that's the part where I'm stuck.

571
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:07.920
I don't know why there's.

572
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:13.080
If, if I can, Margella, I think our, our who's are, are, are very similar

573
00:41:13.080 --> 00:41:17.000
and we're approaching it and in terms of what God has given me, and I am

574
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:21.080
more focused on those who have been de-churched or de-churched themselves

575
00:41:21.080 --> 00:41:24.720
because of it, but for, for all the same reasons, and it sounds like you're

576
00:41:24.720 --> 00:41:28.480
trying, you're trying to get to the people who are still in church before

577
00:41:28.520 --> 00:41:30.040
they become the de-churched.

578
00:41:30.560 --> 00:41:31.120
Okay.

579
00:41:31.120 --> 00:41:34.600
And so I, so I, I understand in terms of what you're doing and it's funny

580
00:41:34.600 --> 00:41:37.600
because I'm also working on a five day challenge and hopefully next week

581
00:41:37.600 --> 00:41:41.720
I'll, I'll announce that, but it's, it's the same thing I'm just going after.

582
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:45.240
You have to decide who it is that you're going after and solve that problem.

583
00:41:45.240 --> 00:41:47.400
Cause if they're in church right now and they're burned out.

584
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:48.280
Okay.

585
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:48.640
Okay.

586
00:41:48.640 --> 00:41:52.600
That's who you want to reach and that's who you want to message and don't

587
00:41:52.600 --> 00:41:53.840
look at the whole big scope.

588
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:56.440
Just look at just these folks.

589
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:57.200
Okay.

590
00:41:57.200 --> 00:42:02.320
And if I say, if I said these three sentences, it would, it would resonate

591
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.360
with them right off the, they would totally get it.

592
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:08.720
And there's so many people who are like that and they're struggling, you know,

593
00:42:08.720 --> 00:42:11.200
in the organization and, and everything else.

594
00:42:11.200 --> 00:42:15.120
And, and as you said, you find yourself in a situation where you're

595
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:16.840
in a situation and everything else.

596
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:20.640
And, and as you said, you find out that your, your relationship

597
00:42:20.640 --> 00:42:21.840
is not what you thought it was.

598
00:42:22.200 --> 00:42:22.440
Yeah.

599
00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:23.120
Okay.

600
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:26.960
And that's, it's something that's very depressing, but that's where, that's

601
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:29.680
the point of impact, okay.

602
00:42:29.680 --> 00:42:30.960
That you want to hit the mat.

603
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:34.640
Mine's a little bit different cause they're already on the outside, but

604
00:42:34.640 --> 00:42:38.120
you're, you're talking about them inside the church right now

605
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:39.680
and what they can relate to.

606
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:44.480
So in terms of your big scope, just narrow it down to that so that you

607
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:45.160
could talk to them.

608
00:42:45.160 --> 00:42:49.760
If you said just three sentences, they would know exactly what you

609
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:51.200
meant and would want to talk to you.

610
00:42:51.640 --> 00:42:53.200
And that is your who.

611
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.440
But that's the part that I'm struggling with are those sentences.

612
00:42:56.560 --> 00:42:57.520
That's what I mean.

613
00:42:57.520 --> 00:43:01.360
It's like, I hear that I get that, but then I don't know how to,

614
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:03.000
I don't know why I'm struggling.

615
00:43:03.560 --> 00:43:06.320
So, so how would you describe, I mean, how would you describe

616
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:07.800
the problem for yourself?

617
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.680
Or you were telling somebody, you're not looking for somebody.

618
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.480
You were just telling somebody how you felt and what you went through.

619
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:13.560
Yeah.

620
00:43:14.200 --> 00:43:16.080
Burnt out in the field.

621
00:43:16.200 --> 00:43:16.520
Yeah.

622
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:19.600
Lost and confused.

623
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:20.760
Yeah.

624
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:24.000
I think the, that's a good distinction.

625
00:43:24.120 --> 00:43:27.240
Um, so always, always, always, you can go more niche.

626
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:28.800
Like you can always niche down.

627
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:35.320
Like I would say, don't say like the more specific can be, even if it's like, Hey,

628
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:39.400
I'm helping woman with this thing who are 35, I don't helping, you know, people

629
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:44.200
like you're saying people in church who have left church who are about to leave.

630
00:43:44.200 --> 00:43:48.160
Like there's all these fine, um, adjustments you can make because it'll

631
00:43:48.160 --> 00:43:50.160
be so much easier to talk to that person.

632
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:53.480
Um, if they're very specific, it's really easy to talk to like

633
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:54.800
one-on-one with someone.

634
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:57.120
If you're just having a one-on-one conversation.

635
00:43:57.600 --> 00:44:01.640
Um, and if you know of people who you're like have in mind, that may a good

636
00:44:01.640 --> 00:44:05.760
people, even to have, that may be a good conversation to have or a zoom call or a

637
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:09.200
free just check-in call or something just to catch up with them, because

638
00:44:09.200 --> 00:44:12.920
they'll like, was they was saying like, they're going to use language and you'll,

639
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.400
and you'll use language that you'll say something and they'll

640
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:17.120
like respond to it immediately.

641
00:44:17.520 --> 00:44:22.560
Um, and so, uh, even when we did King messengers, like we had a lot of people

642
00:44:22.560 --> 00:44:24.840
share and go live and introduce themselves.

643
00:44:25.120 --> 00:44:29.120
And one of the things that came out of it is people were really wanting to impact

644
00:44:29.120 --> 00:44:31.360
the next generation or leave a legacy.

645
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.080
And like, that was not language that Lindsay and I would have ever come up

646
00:44:34.080 --> 00:44:38.400
with, but it's stuff that everybody in the audience said, and then now it's

647
00:44:38.600 --> 00:44:43.240
become part of more of our language, but, um, that's something is the

648
00:44:43.240 --> 00:44:44.720
more you just have conversations.

649
00:44:44.720 --> 00:44:45.560
But I would try to.

650
00:44:46.120 --> 00:44:50.320
For the chat, the challenge is not something to like, from a content

651
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.400
and a deliverability standpoint, like you want to make it as specific as

652
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:57.760
possible and you're not going to like, they're not going to launch their entire

653
00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:00.040
for us, if they're going to launch entire kingdom channel.

654
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.520
in a three days or five days, right?

655
00:45:02.520 --> 00:45:04.720
The only thing we're trying to do is just wake it,

656
00:45:04.720 --> 00:45:07.800
open them up to the idea that they can

657
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:11.160
leverage the digital landscape in a new way that,

658
00:45:11.160 --> 00:45:12.480
and this is what's possible.

659
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:14.240
And then here's a reason, here's a reason,

660
00:45:14.240 --> 00:45:16.240
here's a reason why that you wanna,

661
00:45:16.240 --> 00:45:18.080
this is the why, right?

662
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:21.160
Cause you're not going to really help them with the how,

663
00:45:21.160 --> 00:45:24.280
it's gonna be like, it's just gonna be the what

664
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:28.340
and the how is what you're gonna cover on that challenge.

665
00:45:28.340 --> 00:45:31.180
Sorry, the what and the why are the two big things.

666
00:45:31.180 --> 00:45:33.060
Like why, so to me,

667
00:45:34.300 --> 00:45:36.780
there's maybe even something on like,

668
00:45:36.780 --> 00:45:39.220
like how to not give up on church

669
00:45:39.220 --> 00:45:41.460
or how to avoid giving up on church.

670
00:45:41.460 --> 00:45:43.780
Like the three day, you know,

671
00:45:43.780 --> 00:45:46.460
avoid giving up on church for ministry leader,

672
00:45:46.460 --> 00:45:49.240
you know, something, could be something like that.

673
00:45:50.700 --> 00:45:54.140
But I think you're getting closer

674
00:45:54.140 --> 00:45:57.260
and all the other language, the avoiding burnout

675
00:45:57.260 --> 00:46:00.620
and all of that, this like one sentence

676
00:46:00.620 --> 00:46:02.700
is very difficult to come up with.

677
00:46:02.700 --> 00:46:04.860
And also when you're thinking of your landing page

678
00:46:04.860 --> 00:46:08.880
and doing a challenge, this is the like main banner

679
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:11.260
that's gonna be at the very top.

680
00:46:11.260 --> 00:46:16.180
I can show you guys a quick example here

681
00:46:16.180 --> 00:46:18.000
of what we're talking about.

682
00:46:19.980 --> 00:46:23.540
It's this like big headline right here, right?

683
00:46:23.540 --> 00:46:27.540
And this, we wrote it like probably 20 times

684
00:46:27.540 --> 00:46:29.860
and then we sent it to some friends

685
00:46:29.860 --> 00:46:31.620
and they gave us a ton of feedback.

686
00:46:32.660 --> 00:46:36.720
And so we had something, I don't even remember what it was,

687
00:46:36.720 --> 00:46:38.020
but we said here like, hey,

688
00:46:38.020 --> 00:46:40.100
online community leaders is for tribe.

689
00:46:40.100 --> 00:46:42.760
Like is tech overwhelm holding you back

690
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:44.580
from growing your community?

691
00:46:44.580 --> 00:46:47.300
And then we had all the things about like what's happening

692
00:46:47.300 --> 00:46:51.020
and why like, if you don't have knowledge of these things,

693
00:46:51.020 --> 00:46:51.940
this is what's gonna cost you.

694
00:46:51.940 --> 00:46:54.340
Like you can kind of, it's this big sentence.

695
00:46:54.340 --> 00:46:57.660
This thing is typically the last thing we write on the page.

696
00:46:57.660 --> 00:46:59.460
And you've kind of started with that,

697
00:46:59.460 --> 00:47:01.780
which is the hardest thing, right?

698
00:47:01.780 --> 00:47:03.000
Which is good because you're,

699
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:05.420
but don't feel like you have to get it word perfect

700
00:47:05.420 --> 00:47:06.240
right now.

701
00:47:06.240 --> 00:47:08.460
Like even just if you can describe it in a paragraph,

702
00:47:08.460 --> 00:47:09.300
that's good for now.

703
00:47:09.300 --> 00:47:13.220
You can refine it and trim it down better.

704
00:47:13.220 --> 00:47:14.880
I could probably show some other.

705
00:47:16.420 --> 00:47:18.420
Yeah, I guess I'm just trying to go,

706
00:47:18.420 --> 00:47:20.480
I'm going through the training.

707
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:22.760
So I've gone through just about all of,

708
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:25.040
all up until the point of setting the date

709
00:47:25.040 --> 00:47:28.120
in the challenge, which training with Pedro.

710
00:47:28.120 --> 00:47:29.360
So that's where I'm stuck.

711
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.360
So then my mind is really,

712
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:34.160
and I'm taking notes and I'm getting ideas,

713
00:47:34.160 --> 00:47:36.920
but I just, I like what Lindsay was saying.

714
00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:38.840
I really wanted to hear more of what she had,

715
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:41.120
but I know she's got to do what she has to do.

716
00:47:41.120 --> 00:47:42.520
I think she's still here.

717
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:45.560
I like what she was saying about,

718
00:47:45.560 --> 00:47:48.160
there is a grief to it, I think.

719
00:47:48.160 --> 00:47:49.960
Right, and a healing.

720
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.760
And there is that process of what I've done with myself,

721
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.000
on my own, no one,

722
00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:59.480
other than having the foundation that I've had

723
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.720
to take that and to move myself forward

724
00:48:02.720 --> 00:48:05.920
because I would not be here.

725
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:07.480
Do you think it's for,

726
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:10.080
I don't know if you would classify yourself as this,

727
00:48:10.080 --> 00:48:13.400
but like a PK or a pastor's kid?

728
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:14.240
Yeah, definitely.

729
00:48:14.240 --> 00:48:15.560
Like maybe that's who it's for?

730
00:48:15.560 --> 00:48:18.800
Because I think that's a very specific niche.

731
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:19.640
Okay.

732
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:22.200
And that you could identify with.

733
00:48:23.080 --> 00:48:24.720
And a term like PK,

734
00:48:24.720 --> 00:48:26.880
like people would probably recognize that.

735
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:29.800
Or you could say pastor's kid, but.

736
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:31.320
Yeah, yeah.

737
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:33.400
That, I would make it as specific

738
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:36.440
to your story as possible.

739
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:37.760
Okay.

740
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:39.840
Right, there was some sort of like breakthrough

741
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:43.040
that you had to overcome to get to where you are now.

742
00:48:43.040 --> 00:48:44.600
Like think of everybody's like,

743
00:48:44.600 --> 00:48:46.120
kind of at the bottom of the hill

744
00:48:46.120 --> 00:48:48.040
and you've gone on a journey with the Lord

745
00:48:48.040 --> 00:48:50.160
to get to the top of this hill.

746
00:48:50.160 --> 00:48:51.400
When you're describing this,

747
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:53.200
it's like, what's that transformation like?

748
00:48:53.200 --> 00:48:54.680
Well, I was here, I get it.

749
00:48:54.680 --> 00:48:56.920
Like I had, you know, you want to talk,

750
00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:01.400
like connect with them as far as I, you know,

751
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:02.760
know what it's like to have parents

752
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:04.120
and this story and that story.

753
00:49:04.120 --> 00:49:05.760
And then you kind of like, they're like, oh my gosh,

754
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.520
like she's like speaking directly to me.

755
00:49:08.520 --> 00:49:11.000
And then you say, and then when things go wrong

756
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:12.560
and this happens and this happens, this happens.

757
00:49:12.560 --> 00:49:13.960
And now you're left wondering like,

758
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.440
should I even invest in church anymore?

759
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:18.000
Is it worth it?

760
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:19.200
And then you tell them too,

761
00:49:19.200 --> 00:49:22.280
and here's what I've learned over the last decade

762
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:26.560
or whatever in pursuing this dream or something like that.

763
00:49:28.120 --> 00:49:32.040
But yeah, it would be interesting,

764
00:49:32.040 --> 00:49:32.880
as you were saying as well,

765
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:37.880
if you know some people like who would be similar

766
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.120
to your who, you could just have those conversations

767
00:49:40.120 --> 00:49:41.240
would be good.

768
00:49:41.240 --> 00:49:42.080
Okay.

769
00:49:42.080 --> 00:49:42.920
Yeah, absolutely.

770
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:43.840
And believe me, Marcella,

771
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.080
I understand what you're going through.

772
00:49:45.160 --> 00:49:47.080
When we were first doing the origin stories,

773
00:49:47.080 --> 00:49:49.200
I think I told the group,

774
00:49:49.200 --> 00:49:51.920
my first pass was 17 pages long,

775
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:56.920
okay, which was really ridiculous.

776
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:00.160
But as you start to go through what it really.

777
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.440
really came down to was, you know, it came down to one

778
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:05.920
sentence for me, which was, you know, I was suffering from

779
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:11.580
performance anxiety with God. Okay. Right. But it took me a

780
00:50:11.580 --> 00:50:16.200
while to take all that and narrow with narrow this, really

781
00:50:16.200 --> 00:50:19.800
narrow this down. And, you know, now I'm narrowing it down even

782
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:23.040
further, because as you've seen, you know, the group that you can

783
00:50:23.040 --> 00:50:26.240
be talking to can still be very, very wide. But Bruce is

784
00:50:26.240 --> 00:50:28.920
absolutely right, you want to narrow down, you're not going

785
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:32.520
to solve, you're not going to solve their problem in three or

786
00:50:32.520 --> 00:50:35.600
five days. Okay, you're just trying to make them aware that

787
00:50:35.600 --> 00:50:39.800
there is a solution. Okay, here are some tools that can help you

788
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:42.900
out. Because you're, you know, you're you, it's going to take

789
00:50:42.900 --> 00:50:46.240
time. And if after that, you know, they want to talk to you,

790
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:49.120
and you want to set them up for coaching or for group coaching,

791
00:50:49.120 --> 00:50:53.080
or, or a course, or whatever, then you know, you can you can

792
00:50:53.080 --> 00:50:57.240
take that. But it really comes down to hitting that pain.

793
00:50:57.240 --> 00:51:00.600
What's the biggest pain point? You know, with all that, what

794
00:51:00.600 --> 00:51:03.600
was the biggest pain point for you? With all this? I know that

795
00:51:03.600 --> 00:51:07.840
there was more than one, but what was the biggest one? Okay.

796
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:12.680
You know, and that if you can speak to that, and just speak to

797
00:51:12.680 --> 00:51:16.640
that point, then people will, they will recognize and they

798
00:51:16.640 --> 00:51:20.200
will come to you. Okay, and you may find out that the exact, you

799
00:51:20.200 --> 00:51:23.520
know, the group that you thought was going to respond the best in

800
00:51:23.520 --> 00:51:26.520
this whole big group, you know, is just there's a

801
00:51:26.520 --> 00:51:30.440
microcosm of that group. Okay, that that wants to talk to you.

802
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.680
Okay, and that's who and that's who you're here to talk to. And

803
00:51:35.680 --> 00:51:39.360
so believe me, I know, and I understand and trying to, you

804
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:43.640
know, trying to zero in on it, you know, and I've had to pray

805
00:51:43.640 --> 00:51:47.640
about it a lot. And I like, you know, I'm going after the

806
00:51:47.640 --> 00:51:49.760
detour. So I'm going out to people who love God and

807
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:54.240
struggle with church. Okay. Because they're, they're

808
00:51:54.240 --> 00:51:58.120
definitely out there. And they need more than what they've had

809
00:51:58.120 --> 00:52:01.440
in the past. But that's what God has given me to speak to. But it

810
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.440
came out of this whole nine, this whole thing about getting

811
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:08.760
burnt out, okay, and realizing that, you know, I, you know, I'm

812
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:14.360
pastoring for seven years, and I'm getting nowhere. Okay. No,

813
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:19.360
and it's not responding and whatnot. But what you want to do

814
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:23.400
is just find that pain point that you can speak to that, that

815
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:26.920
that people will just go sister, I'm, you know, yeah, you you've

816
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:30.800
said it exactly. You've said exactly, that's my problem. And

817
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:35.000
when you can speak to them on that level, then, okay, you will

818
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:36.600
have your ideal who

819
00:52:42.200 --> 00:52:44.680
do you How's that feeling? Do you feel like you got some

820
00:52:44.680 --> 00:52:47.440
clarity yet? Or? Um,

821
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:57.200
yes, and no. Yes. And in one instance, um, and no, and

822
00:52:57.200 --> 00:53:05.080
another, in the sense of? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, no, but yes.

823
00:53:05.120 --> 00:53:05.880
Yes.

824
00:53:06.240 --> 00:53:09.360
Yeah, you just say you're not you're not there yet. Okay,

825
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:10.240
that's okay.

826
00:53:10.520 --> 00:53:13.880
No, I'm not saying that because I am there and all of it is

827
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:19.960
resonating. I think I'm still trying to get to the next step.

828
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:25.400
So I see, I get I understand everything that you're saying,

829
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:29.960
Xavier, I'm with you. I got it. I'm all for it. The PK thing. I

830
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:35.520
got narrowing down the niche. I got that part. I'm trying to get

831
00:53:36.240 --> 00:53:37.400
now.

832
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:41.720
So asking, so if I do this challenge, what is my next step?

833
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:44.200
Like what comes after the challenge?

834
00:53:44.240 --> 00:53:46.200
Yeah, I'm just trying to understand what you're

835
00:53:46.240 --> 00:53:53.080
okay. So Pedro said, he said, work backwards. Lindsay also had

836
00:53:53.080 --> 00:53:59.800
it on my page. What is my offer? That's what stopped me. So the

837
00:54:00.520 --> 00:54:04.440
micro niche, I thought I was, I guess I wasn't narrow enough.

838
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:09.120
And so I got the PK part. So that'll bring it even more. You

839
00:54:09.120 --> 00:54:13.360
know, use more of my experiences in my story. I think I got that

840
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:18.040
part. So I guess I'm now going back to what he says is to work

841
00:54:18.040 --> 00:54:21.920
backwards. What is he says, if you have the big problem and the

842
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:26.400
offer for the big problem, then you can work backwards. So I

843
00:54:26.560 --> 00:54:30.200
share a couple things. I think that's good. Hopefully helps

844
00:54:30.240 --> 00:54:33.560
everybody else here. So anytime you have a project where you're

845
00:54:33.560 --> 00:54:36.520
stuck, stuck, getting stuck is the worst, you can't move

846
00:54:36.520 --> 00:54:39.440
forward, you're like, I, you don't want to move to the left,

847
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:41.680
because then you can't go to the right. So you end up not moving

848
00:54:41.680 --> 00:54:45.000
at all. Right. So, so when you have that thing, try to like,

849
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:49.880
basically read like draw a new target, essentially. So if you

850
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:52.520
have a project where you're stuck, you're stuck. You're

851
00:54:53.120 --> 00:54:57.360
basically read like draw a new target, essentially. So so I

852
00:54:57.360 --> 00:54:59.960
think in our minds, like we have an idea of like this

853
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:03.040
challenge and I'm going to be standing up and there's gonna be like hundreds of people and I'm

854
00:55:03.040 --> 00:55:07.440
going to present this thing to hundreds of people right and I better get it right and if I don't

855
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:12.640
then I'm going to miss out on making money making you know connections and making impact whatever

856
00:55:12.640 --> 00:55:20.160
the the risks are. One thing I would say is dramatically like simplify challenge the way

857
00:55:20.160 --> 00:55:24.240
Pedro does challenges the way that we do challenge is totally different than how we do it how you're

858
00:55:24.240 --> 00:55:30.560
going to do it is going to be your own style so one thing that you can do is just I would almost

859
00:55:30.560 --> 00:55:42.160
have a initially just a one session one night kind of free training free session where you just have

860
00:55:42.160 --> 00:55:48.160
a couple people on it could be you and three other people right and just say you can do a post on

861
00:55:48.160 --> 00:55:52.640
face you have to run ads or any of that stuff just do a few posts on Facebook send out if you have

862
00:55:52.640 --> 00:55:58.000
an email list invite people hey I'm going to be talking about this I want to be telling my story

863
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:03.040
of how I went from this to that and I'm going to just try and share a couple like three keys that

864
00:56:03.040 --> 00:56:07.280
I learned along the way five keys that I learned along the way or five like breakthrough things

865
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:11.360
that I learned along the way and I just want to encourage you and hopefully this helps impact

866
00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:16.960
someone like that could be that simple that you could come up with in an afternoon like a quick

867
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:23.760
you know present sort of how to tell your story and at the end just do some Q&A and then and then

868
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:28.160
take everything that you learned in that Q&A and that will kind of do that next step

869
00:56:28.160 --> 00:56:34.400
of of what to do you don't have to go from like never have done have never having done a challenge

870
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:39.040
all the way to running a challenge with like hundreds of people or thousands right like you

871
00:56:39.040 --> 00:56:44.240
can do it in baby steps and that way you're at least making some progress because what will

872
00:56:44.240 --> 00:56:50.000
happen is you may have someone uh direct message you after that and be like hey marcia like that

873
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:55.600
was amazing like I need can I like do a one-on-one session with you can you help me with this like

874
00:56:55.600 --> 00:56:59.600
do you mind walking through or praying with me then they'll they'll ask you for your offer

875
00:57:00.240 --> 00:57:06.080
right um in january when we launched kingdom messengers like we were like hey maybe we'll

876
00:57:06.080 --> 00:57:11.440
do some sort of coaching program we had none of the offer built out on day one and we had a seven

877
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:15.680
day challenge so we had seven days to figure it out because every day we were doing a session

878
00:57:15.680 --> 00:57:20.720
and by the set like we had to figure something out by the end of it um again part of it is just

879
00:57:20.720 --> 00:57:26.160
setting the date to have some sort of offer but what happened is that we didn't lock it in right

880
00:57:26.160 --> 00:57:30.400
at the beginning I don't think we could have like and it's just not my style to like I would I'd

881
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:35.200
like to kind of be in the moment get to know everybody and kind of figure out what's going

882
00:57:35.200 --> 00:57:42.160
to make sense and then do something you know from there so it's very like even in businesses

883
00:57:42.160 --> 00:57:47.280
there's a temptation to make a lot of decisions in the boardroom right and you're sitting in you

884
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:50.560
don't not actually talking to your customers you're not actually like engaging with where the

885
00:57:50.560 --> 00:57:56.560
market is but you're making these like huge impactful decisions in like this isolated area

886
00:57:56.560 --> 00:58:01.360
so that's that's what being stuck and not having at least having those first conversations it's

887
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:06.000
going to hold back now you're already making content and you're doing you know blog posts

888
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:10.000
and videos and things like that you guys are all doing that so you already are stepping out

889
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:14.960
um and having you're at least having building that audience right so use that audience like

890
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:19.120
reach out to them and say hey I just want to tell them and it can be simple like people love hearing

891
00:58:19.120 --> 00:58:23.520
testimonies I want to share this I want to encourage you I want to you know I know there's

892
00:58:23.520 --> 00:58:28.800
other and you can name them the pastor's kids who are in ministry that are like maybe on maybe you're

893
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:33.280
you know and I think if you invite them in that kind of way you don't have to have this

894
00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:37.280
beautifully marketed like billboard which I think is what you're trying to come up with

895
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:43.680
right now is like this perfectly one sentence that's like oh that's exactly who it is you know

896
00:58:43.680 --> 00:58:48.080
you can just describe them you can go live on your your Facebook page and just say hey I'm

897
00:58:48.080 --> 00:58:51.120
going to be doing this thing you know maybe there's people that are like this maybe there's

898
00:58:51.120 --> 00:58:55.360
people that are that or they're like wondering this or they're thinking that so you're kind of

899
00:58:55.360 --> 00:59:00.720
like sort of drawing like a general idea of who that person is and they will identify with some of

900
00:59:00.720 --> 00:59:05.920
these statements um and I think that that's a great way and then you just literally just invite

901
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:12.720
them to a zoom call and that's it like just have them on let them talk to you interact with you

902
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:18.560
you know ask questions you will because then you'll have done your first kind of free training

903
00:59:18.560 --> 00:59:24.080
and then if it goes well like do it again in a few weeks just and people will just come back

904
00:59:24.080 --> 00:59:29.360
like maybe you share something else and then over that's and honestly that's how you know Pedro

905
00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:35.920
launched 100x is they just did a free 30-day entrepreneur kingdom entrepreneur um challenge

906
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:40.800
where he just went live and like shared what everything he knew about the topic and he had no

907
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:46.080
offer at all except people were asking him like hey what's the offer like I want this I want

908
00:59:46.080 --> 00:59:50.400
coaching I want that and then he like put something together but he didn't start the challenge with

909
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:56.240
like any of that okay yeah I think that's that was helpful Bruce because I think what I've been

910
00:59:56.240 --> 00:59:59.760
trying to do which is that's just the way that I'm wired

911
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.540
Um, is to, you know, I'm watching the training and I'm trying to go the steps and do the

912
01:00:04.540 --> 01:00:11.200
steps and I'm watching the videos and it wasn't, I wasn't able to match what I was feeling

913
01:00:11.200 --> 01:00:12.200
inside.

914
01:00:12.200 --> 01:00:14.120
I think Susie, she sent me a message.

915
01:00:14.120 --> 01:00:15.120
It's exactly right.

916
01:00:15.120 --> 01:00:16.120
It's in my gut.

917
01:00:16.120 --> 01:00:21.320
I know who it is, but just to package it so that I'm, you know, trying to do all the things.

918
01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:24.480
And so, yeah, but yeah, I like this idea too.

919
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:25.480
I like that.

920
01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:26.480
I like that.

921
01:00:27.200 --> 01:00:31.080
Again, putting a date on the calendar makes a huge difference, right?

922
01:00:31.080 --> 01:00:37.600
Like just looking at it, you could open up your calendar, take a pen and drop it on something.

923
01:00:37.600 --> 01:00:38.600
And that will be the date.

924
01:00:38.600 --> 01:00:42.160
If you, if you're having trouble, we'll just go with the Holy Spirit guiding your pen date

925
01:00:42.160 --> 01:00:45.000
the right day, right?

926
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:49.520
So, uh, I mean, it's just, just having some date on the calendar is helpful than, than

927
01:00:49.520 --> 01:00:50.520
not having one.

928
01:00:50.520 --> 01:00:54.040
So, um, cause put that in there, just do it.

929
01:00:54.040 --> 01:00:56.980
Like you got to start messy, right?

930
01:00:56.980 --> 01:00:57.980
It's not going to be polished.

931
01:00:57.980 --> 01:01:01.640
It just isn't, you know?

932
01:01:01.640 --> 01:01:08.160
And it's funny, but like, I can tell you that, um, the more unpolished and the more just

933
01:01:08.160 --> 01:01:11.960
authentic it is, that is what really will connect with people.

934
01:01:11.960 --> 01:01:15.280
And I think part of why, like we initially started King of Messages is because we were

935
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:17.360
just like, we're just showing up on a zoom call.

936
01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:21.840
There was, it was so, so simple and so basic, and we just made ourselves very accessible

937
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:22.920
to people.

938
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:26.680
And all of a sudden it was just, you know, it, it worked out really well.

939
01:01:26.680 --> 01:01:32.400
Um, but I've seen a lot like trying to make it seem too fancy and too shiny and too polished

940
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:37.000
is sometimes it ends up being, um, you know, so anyway.

941
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:38.000
Okay.

942
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:39.000
That's helpful.

943
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:40.400
That, that was helpful.

944
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:44.800
That kind of simplified it, uh, for me, I think, and kind of pull it out and then go

945
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:45.800
from there.

946
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:46.800
Okay.

947
01:01:47.240 --> 01:01:48.240
Thanks.

948
01:01:48.240 --> 01:01:49.240
Thanks guys.

949
01:01:49.240 --> 01:01:50.240
Thanks.

950
01:01:50.240 --> 01:01:51.240
Really?

951
01:01:51.240 --> 01:01:52.240
Yeah.

952
01:01:52.240 --> 01:01:53.240
I think Bruce was exactly right.

953
01:01:53.240 --> 01:01:56.680
And I completely forgotten that during the pandemic, our small groups weren't meeting

954
01:01:56.680 --> 01:01:57.840
in person.

955
01:01:57.840 --> 01:01:59.840
So we started a zoom group.

956
01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:00.840
Okay.

957
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:04.120
Well, you know, and cause my wife has autoimmune issues.

958
01:02:04.120 --> 01:02:08.680
So, you know, getting everybody together was just not an option, but on, you know, it was

959
01:02:08.680 --> 01:02:09.680
the exact same thing.

960
01:02:09.680 --> 01:02:15.440
So a lot of what's coming out of me now was actually just born in these, um, zoom groups

961
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:20.120
of just a few people, you know, getting together and talking and, and, and, and whatnot and

962
01:02:20.120 --> 01:02:21.120
discussing.

963
01:02:21.120 --> 01:02:26.720
And, um, yeah, you, you just, you just, um, you, you start small and, and just go from

964
01:02:26.720 --> 01:02:27.720
there.

965
01:02:27.720 --> 01:02:29.320
So rather than, than take the whole big picture.

966
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:34.400
So I forgotten that Bruce, so thank you for reminding me, but, um, yeah, we all, we all,

967
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:39.320
you know, start small and then just, you know, let the word guide you from there and it'll

968
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:40.320
come through.

969
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:41.320
Awesome.

970
01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:42.320
Yes.

971
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:51.920
If I can, if I can add, I think that that is, this is the point that Bruce is saying

972
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:56.880
that's a difference between us and Pedro and those of us who watch the Pedro thing, who

973
01:02:56.880 --> 01:03:02.840
have a picture of what we need to be doing was a really good foundation, but it's not,

974
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:04.240
you know, it's what we need to build on.

975
01:03:04.240 --> 01:03:05.880
It's not who we are.

976
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:08.880
And so thank you, Bruce.

977
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:19.040
Yeah, I think, um, uh, yeah, it's, it's because we've been, uh, the way that we started doing

978
01:03:19.040 --> 01:03:21.520
challenges and all stuff was back in 2019.

979
01:03:21.520 --> 01:03:24.360
So it was about, it was literally three years ago.

980
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:28.600
So that was where we got exposed to it from, from Pedro, but it was three years ago.

981
01:03:28.600 --> 01:03:32.640
So it's changed and it's evolved a lot since then.

982
01:03:32.640 --> 01:03:35.960
And so anyway, yeah, you want to do it in your own style, but it all comes down to just

983
01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:38.420
a few core things of connecting with people.

984
01:03:38.460 --> 01:03:43.740
So just having those conversations, especially if you don't have anything, just start having

985
01:03:43.740 --> 01:03:47.580
those conversations, um, as early as possible.

986
01:03:47.580 --> 01:03:51.620
So it's because if you're stuck, like you'll have one, I'll tell you, this is what's going

987
01:03:51.620 --> 01:03:52.620
to happen.

988
01:03:52.620 --> 01:03:56.260
You're going to have one conversation with one person and you're going to be so fired

989
01:03:56.260 --> 01:04:00.780
up about going and serving this who, by talking about one person, it, you won't even be, you'll

990
01:04:00.780 --> 01:04:02.380
be like, oh, it's this, this is the topic.

991
01:04:02.380 --> 01:04:03.460
I'm going to write this out.

992
01:04:03.460 --> 01:04:04.460
Here's my ad.

993
01:04:04.460 --> 01:04:05.460
It's just going to come together.

994
01:04:05.460 --> 01:04:08.420
Because you're going to share some things and they're going to say like, oh my gosh,

995
01:04:08.420 --> 01:04:09.660
where has this been all my life?

996
01:04:09.660 --> 01:04:14.060
Like when you said this thing, this so impacting, you're like, oh, that's just something I say

997
01:04:14.060 --> 01:04:15.060
all the time.

998
01:04:15.060 --> 01:04:17.380
Like a little saying, you know, it's like these little things and people are going to

999
01:04:17.380 --> 01:04:18.940
be like, oh wait, let me write that down.

1000
01:04:18.940 --> 01:04:20.860
You're like, oh, that's what you needed to know.

1001
01:04:20.860 --> 01:04:21.860
Oh, okay.

1002
01:04:21.860 --> 01:04:25.300
Like, cause we try to like, when we go do these videos or content, we're trying to be

1003
01:04:25.300 --> 01:04:30.900
like overly profound and like people just a lot of times need like really basic.

1004
01:04:30.900 --> 01:04:35.740
Like help with something and just encouragement and then just for writing some sort of community.

1005
01:04:35.740 --> 01:04:38.020
So you could definitely invite them.

1006
01:04:38.020 --> 01:04:42.260
Do the, do the zoom and then you guys can all do this, like do zoom and then have a

1007
01:04:42.260 --> 01:04:45.820
private Facebook group and just say, Hey, if it's okay with you guys, I'd love to invite

1008
01:04:45.820 --> 01:04:49.860
you to this at the end of the call, just so we can keep the conversation going and encourage

1009
01:04:49.860 --> 01:04:50.860
one another.

1010
01:04:50.860 --> 01:04:51.860
Oh my gosh.

1011
01:04:51.860 --> 01:04:52.860
That's awesome.

1012
01:04:52.860 --> 01:04:53.860
Thanks.

1013
01:04:53.860 --> 01:04:54.860
As free just here, everybody sign in.

1014
01:04:54.860 --> 01:04:57.300
Now you've got them kind of in a private group and next time you want to do events,

1015
01:04:57.300 --> 01:05:00.420
you can keep pushing it to that group.

1016
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:05.000
And then down that becomes what we have is like our kingdom messenger community.

1017
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:09.680
So you just keep growing that kind of free community out, and then you can always later

1018
01:05:09.680 --> 01:05:13.400
down the road invite them to something else, but you don't have to come up with it right

1019
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:14.400
now.

1020
01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:15.400
Cool.

1021
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:24.000
That was great, thanks for that, that I could see yeah, I really, I could see it, I grabbed

1022
01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:25.000
that.

1023
01:05:25.520 --> 01:05:31.720
And just because this is like a coaching inception, you sharing that whole story and Xavier adding

1024
01:05:31.720 --> 01:05:34.440
some stuff to it and all you guys, your comments and stuff.

1025
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:40.280
I think I'm going to go do a training that's for you guys, that would be like how to run

1026
01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:45.360
your first online event, just a single session, thing like that, because, but see, I didn't

1027
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:48.560
have that idea 30 minutes ago, right?

1028
01:05:48.560 --> 01:05:51.040
So because I'm talking to my who, okay?

1029
01:05:51.040 --> 01:05:54.440
So like, if that didn't just prove the point, right?

1030
01:05:54.440 --> 01:06:00.760
So, but if I'd sat here, I could sit on the whiteboard all day and not think of, oh, like

1031
01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:01.760
running a webinar.

1032
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:02.960
Yeah, I could help someone with that.

1033
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:05.600
But like, I would never would have written that down on a whiteboard.

1034
01:06:05.600 --> 01:06:07.280
But anyway, that's good.

1035
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:10.360
Just have conversations.

1036
01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:16.680
I have a question, when I was getting my private Facebook groups set up, I think I unnecessarily

1037
01:06:16.680 --> 01:06:17.680
did two groups.

1038
01:06:17.680 --> 01:06:24.520
I did one group for comments, private, more private comments on my YouTube content, and

1039
01:06:24.520 --> 01:06:28.200
then another one for my challenge.

1040
01:06:28.200 --> 01:06:32.000
And I'm not exactly sure what I was thinking of when I did that.

1041
01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:36.440
But do you have any thoughts about that?

1042
01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:40.760
So you can have as many private groups as you want.

1043
01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:43.400
The good thing is they're private, and you can easily delete them.

1044
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:51.000
So I would, we typically were doing one group per challenge before we did Kingdom Messengers.

1045
01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:55.720
When we did Kingdom Messengers, we just, it just made sense to keep one, one big group

1046
01:06:55.720 --> 01:06:57.400
just for all challenges.

1047
01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:01.600
So you can keep your two, keep one for kind of your whatever you want to call it.

1048
01:07:01.600 --> 01:07:06.200
I would just for where you are now, I would just simplify it and make one, you know, so

1049
01:07:06.200 --> 01:07:11.160
people want to join, come from your YouTube, and they want to have a conversation, have

1050
01:07:11.160 --> 01:07:12.440
them come to that group.

1051
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:16.520
If you want to do an event, just have them come to the same group for now, because you

1052
01:07:16.520 --> 01:07:22.080
want to just get one really, get that audience as big as possible so that you, you know,

1053
01:07:22.080 --> 01:07:25.360
in one place, if you split it, you're going to have half the group in one, and it's just

1054
01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:27.040
not going to have as much engagement.

1055
01:07:27.040 --> 01:07:30.320
So, but you can easily delete them.

1056
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:33.840
So whichever one has less people, just delete it, and then you can rename it to whatever

1057
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:34.840
you want.

1058
01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:39.760
And we changed the name of our, changed our name of our group many, many times.

1059
01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:43.880
So you can even change it for a specific event, and then change your group name back

1060
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:44.880
if you want.

1061
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:45.880
So.

1062
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:46.880
Gotcha.

1063
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:47.880
Awesome.

1064
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:48.880
Any other questions, guys?

1065
01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:49.880
Good.

1066
01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:54.640
I know we spent a lot of time on that, but I think hopefully that helped a lot of other

1067
01:07:54.640 --> 01:07:58.800
people sort of, you're thinking about putting your own content out or your own challenge.

1068
01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:00.920
That was helpful.

1069
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:01.920
Good.

1070
01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:02.920
Awesome.

1071
01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:03.920
All right.

1072
01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:08.120
Well, it's been good hanging out with you guys, and we'll be back on Tuesday.

1073
01:08:08.120 --> 01:08:12.400
We'll have, we'll probably announce, I'll work with Tamara, and we'll put something

1074
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:17.040
in the email so you guys can know what to expect for the trainings.

1075
01:08:17.040 --> 01:08:20.920
So we'll probably do some sort of training next week, maybe on running a webinar like

1076
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:22.600
this.

1077
01:08:22.600 --> 01:08:25.359
So that would be easy, but cool.

1078
01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:29.000
We'll have a great rest of your week, and we'll see you guys next Tuesday.

1079
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:32.240
Thanks so much, all, for your contribution to this great, great conversation.

1080
01:08:32.240 --> 01:08:33.240
Talk soon.

1081
01:08:33.240 --> 01:08:33.740
Bye.