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Today, we visit with Jimmy Page, founder of Unstoppable Freedom Alliance.

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It's a fun interview, and I'm the interviewee, and that is next.

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Hey, welcome back to The Barry Ferrell Show.

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I hope you're doing great.

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I just had a fast paced and fun interview with Jimmy Page.

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He's the founder of Unstoppable Freedom Alliance.

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His organization is on a mission.

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He's a happy warrior.

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And if you've been with me for a while, you're used to seeing me interview other

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people, but here I'm being interviewed by him, but it went so well.

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We thought you would like to see the whole shebang.

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What a great guy.

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We talk about the courts, the filibuster and other stuff.

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He's pretty gifted at asking questions, and I did my best to rise to the challenge.

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I think you'll enjoy it.

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So here we go.

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Well, welcome to the Unstoppable Freedom podcast.

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I'm Jimmy Page.

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Today, we're going to tackle two really big topics that are threats to the

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American system of government.

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The first one is a Supreme Court, and the second one is the filibuster.

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And both are under attack from the left.

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They're literally trying to dismantle these key components of our system, of

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checks and balances.

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Well, our guest today is an expert in these two areas.

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His name is Barry Farah.

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Barry is the host of the popular podcast by his name.

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He's a highly successful businessman, the author of three successful business and

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leadership books.

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And he speaks to groups on the foundations of the American dream, freedom

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economics, and the American idea.

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He's even made a run for governor of Colorado in 2018, and we sure do wish you

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had won, I'll tell you that.

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Barry, welcome to the show.

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Thank you very much.

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It's great to be on with you.

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Did it, you know, the run for governor, okay, this isn't, this is just bonus

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material.

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The run for governor, was that, did you enjoy that?

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I did.

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I just didn't give myself enough time to build the rapport I needed to with the

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assembly.

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It was a lot of fun though.

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And I enjoyed it.

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If you've got an extra 30 or $40 million, I'll be happy to run again.

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Now that's, that's pretty sad to say that, but that's actually true, right?

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Unfortunately, there's some truth to that.

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Yeah.

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The money and the influence in politics is pretty sad, but, so let's get right into

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it.

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It's no secret that the Supreme court, one of the three branches of our

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constitutional Republic, we're going to talk a little bit about what that means

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at some point, that the Supreme court is taking heavy fire from the left.

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Ever since the overturning of Roe, the leftists have been calling for the

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complete destruction of the Supreme court.

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They're openly criticizing their decisions and worse yet in some ways,

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they're allowing protests, sometimes relatively unpeaceful protests outside

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their homes and others are talking about packing the court.

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We're going to get into all of those, but before we do help us understand the

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role of the Supreme court and why it's so important to the success of America.

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Well, certainly, I mean, if you look at article one of the constitution, you've

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got the legislative branch.

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That's important.

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You've got the house and the Senate and 2,200 and something words to explain how

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that works.

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Then you've got article two, the executive branch and about half the amount of words

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to explain that.

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And then number three is the judicial branch.

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And the idea, the notion was in about 300 and something words for that.

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So it's very important, but you could get to the punch of it quickly.

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In other words, you didn't have as many issues.

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And why is that?

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Well, these guys were not going to be elected.

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So you didn't have to go through all the explanation of what it takes to get

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elected.

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They're going to be appointed.

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And why are they going to be appointed versus the executive branch being elected

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a certain way and the legislative branch being elected a different way.

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And in within there are two different ways of being elected for the house and the

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Senate.

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And the reason there is this Supreme court or the whole judicial branch set up the

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way it is, is because it is supposed to be different than the other two where

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there's an election.

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That's why we have a constitutional Republic.

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We're not a true, pure democracy.

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Pure democracies can turn into a dictatorship, but a Republic has

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infrastructure built into it that has what we've commonly called checks and

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balances.

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So the importance of the judiciary being separated is that they're supposed to

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judge without contamination.

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They're supposed to judge thoroughly and fairly and reasonably.

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Now, of course, if you don't have good judges that breaks down, but that's what

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judges are supposed to do.

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So they're not supposed to be connected to mob rule and they're not even supposed

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to be popular.

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according to the popular vote.

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70% of the people agree with this and 30% don't,

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that shouldn't have anything to do with

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how they determine what they come to.

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They should be purely ruling on the basis of law

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and on the basis of the interpretation

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of what the Constitution meant and what it said.

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Which is pretty important, right?

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And I guess in its original design by the founders,

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it was not meant to be a political body, right?

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I mean, it was meant to be independent by design.

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Has that changed over time?

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Has it become...

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Obviously, it's at the center of politics, right?

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It's getting attacked right now by the left,

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but occasionally it gets attacked by the right.

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Is it in its function?

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Is it a political body today

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or has it changed from the original design?

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keep in mind there's always been rascals, okay?

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So the notion that we only have rascals recently

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is not probably fair to say.

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So there've always been attempts

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to use the Supreme Court for bad things.

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The Supreme Court wasn't always proper,

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but they did over time correct themselves.

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So of course, there's the horrible time

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of the Supreme Court ruling badly on equality.

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And with the 14th Amendment coming in in 1868,

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and then the following rulings that came as a result of that

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people were to be treated equally,

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regardless of what color they had and where they came from

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and whether they were a man or a woman.

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The Supreme Court got it right,

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but if they didn't have that independence,

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essential independence,

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where there was that you're appointed

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and then you're left on your own to make good judgments,

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even at the chagrin of the guy that appointed you,

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which has happened more often than not,

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then you lose the potential to self-correct.

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So what has seemed to change

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is a concerted effort to use the Supreme Court

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to get their way.

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And so in the fifties and sixties,

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abortion was this huge issue.

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to force abortion through,

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they would be able to accomplish

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a whole bunch of other things

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that were part of their agenda.

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actually had a thought through plan of how to get there,

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but they couldn't get there through legislation.

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They tried over and over again.

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The legislative body,

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the body that's closest to the people

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that's supposed to make the laws,

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that group didn't make the law they wanted.

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to make a law through the Supreme Court.

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a concerted plan over a number of years.

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Larry Ladder is probably the foremost contributor

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to executing this plan.

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they accomplished the 1973 Roe versus Wade decision,

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which was really not a very good decision.

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It's not a decision that was based on constitutional law.

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There is no word abortion in the constitution.

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What the Supreme Court should have said is,

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look, this needs to be a state issue.

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for every state this law,

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since this law is not clearly laid out in the constitution.

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they did it through the courts.

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all the way up to really about 85, 86,

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most Supreme Court justices were approved.

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There were a few that were blocked,

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but most of them were approved on 80 to 90 to 10,

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80 to 20 majorities.

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from most of the Supreme Court justices that got on

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until Justice Bork.

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and he believed in originalism.

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And he was this guy who had a command of natural law.

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And he was able to just like put you in your place.

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So are you older today than you were yesterday?

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Yes, but it's relative I think today.

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Regardless of how you feel,

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are you less young today than you were yesterday?

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hard to believe.

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Isn't that too funny?

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So he would use natural law and he'd say,

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so he'd say, if I got you on that one,

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that's a law of nature,

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I can get you on all the other laws of nature.

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So he was so eloquent and so powerful in his communication

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that the left was scared of him.

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that the Supreme Court nominee had an all out attack

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against the nominee,

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not on his jurisprudence capabilities,

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but on the fact that he was too good

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at what he believed in.

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And we don't agree with him

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and we don't want him to be on there

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because he's gonna be able through natural law

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to support an overturning of Roe versus Wade.

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mostly by the left,

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trying to torpedo conservative justices

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and not until Trump came along

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and until really the Democrats changed the way that things,

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rule works, which might be happy to discuss, did it turn out to be almost political of

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who gets on?

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But in terms of the Supreme Court operating politically-

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Let me jump in real quick.

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I'm sorry.

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It is interesting to me that, because I looked at the Senate confirmation, what you're speaking

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of in particular is the Senate confirmation process.

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And obviously, now we just need a simple majority, I think, as I understand it, which is a change,

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right?

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And I'll let you talk a little bit about that.

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But I remember looking, I looked at the scorecard and for years and years and years, all of

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these Senate confirmation hearings would end with a vote, an overwhelming vote to confirm

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candidates or to not confirm if they weren't qualified, if they were deemed unqualified.

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But it was overwhelming until the Bork decision.

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And then ever since then, it feels like to me, both sides are trying to appoint justices

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that support their own view of how the Supreme Court should evaluate the constitutionality of laws.

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There's no doubt that that's the case.

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And I get that, right?

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So I remember when Trump came in and he said he was going to appoint a certain kind of

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judge that was originalist, right?

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That would interpret the law against the original intent of the constitution, which I believe

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is, of course, the way to do it.

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No justice should be given the power to legislate from the bench, which it was that Roe decision.

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You know, tell us a little bit about how the Senate confirmation requirements have changed.

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Yeah, this is fascinating, actually.

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I just learned this.

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So you said I was an expert.

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That might be a little heavy, but I read it on an internet somewhere and so it must be

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So going back to 1806, the filibuster was put in place as a rule.

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It was rule 22.

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The first 20 rules came in in 1789, right out the gate.

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And why is that?

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Well, it's because in article one, section five, it says the Senate can make up their

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own rules.

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The House can make their own rules.

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They need to be governed by it.

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Of course, it makes sense.

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How am I going to have a chair?

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How am I going to recognize somebody that's on the floor, et cetera?

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So the first 20 rules were in place, 1789.

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There's only been seven changes to the rules since then.

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And in 1806, there were a few other rules added, which was rule 22.

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And rule 22 basically put in this filibuster, which basically said, look, we want the minority

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to always have a say.

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And the way we're going to do that is we're going to let people stand up, make their case,

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and they can delay things.

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Well, finally, in 1917, they said, you know what, we probably ought to modify this so

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that if two-thirds of the Senate says, shut up already, that we can have a cloture and

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then force the debate to end.

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And then they modified that in 1975 to three-fifths, so 60.

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So that's where you have the 60 senators.

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So since then, the filibuster's still been in play from 1970s on.

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But really, all the way through the 1970s, it wasn't used that often.

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A few times, a goofball would use it, and they would get overruled.

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get overruled and eventually change the dynamic.

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But overall, the filibuster has stopped the country from going too far right or too far

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left too fast.

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That was kind of the whole concept.

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Well, fast forward to Harry Reid, 2013.

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Harry Reid's the head of the Senate, and he's frustrated as heck.

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And he's got Obama, he's got the House, he's got the Senate, and he can't get any of his

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appointments through.

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And he's mad.

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And these are just federal judges.

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Because how many votes did they need at that time?

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We need 60.

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60 votes.

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So we're still in that 1975 Rule 22.

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Rule 22's still intact, hasn't changed, not one word.

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And they just added, I mean, they changed it from 1806 to 1975, but in 1975, Rule 22

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So the only thing that really changed is they added some exemptions, they said, exceptions.

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They said, you know, when you're doing budget reconciliation, you don't need it.

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That's why they were able to get the $1.9 trillion passed.

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So budget reconciliation, you don't have to have it.

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For some things, you don't have to have it, like army bases and treaties.

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But you have to have it for major legislation, and you have to have it for appointments.

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But in 2013, Reid's frustrated.

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So he says, I'm going to use what's called the nuclear option.

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People, what's the nuclear option?

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Well, I'm going to invent a manipulative way to use Rule 20.

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Now, you go to Rule 20, and it's funny as heck that they were able to pull this off,

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but it's just a point of order.

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So I'm going to have a point of order and basically put my resolution in the point of

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order.

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And then the presiding officer of the Senate will say, no, that doesn't comply with the

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rules.

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And then according to Rule 20, if it doesn't, now keep in mind, the Rule 20 was in place

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to just say, let's clarify rules.

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That's the whole point of it.

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And we're going to let the presiding officer clarify it.

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So now Rule 20 goes into place, and he says, look.

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Then at the end of Rule 20 is if the presiding officer, the pro tempore president, basically

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a guy who's appointed, he's number two in charge, and he operates as the president of

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the Senate to administer just votes and stuff when the vice president's not there, which

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is most all the time.

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If they disagree with him, they can disagree with this administrative clarification of

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a rule by just saying, okay, then I, the chair, say you, the president of pro tempore, you

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tell me I'm wrong.

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I'm going to say, let's put it to a vote.

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No debate.

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Rule 20 says you immediately vote on it.

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No debate.

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And then whatever happens, happens.

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Well, they were never intending for this to be on a major issue, especially an issue that

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Rule 22 says can't happen unless you have two thirds of the Senate.

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Two thirds of the Senate have to agree to a rule change.

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Amazing.

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Unbelievably conniving sons of a guns, aren't they?

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I mean, gosh, it's, this is why so many people get so frustrated is they don't know exactly

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what happened here and it's kind of takes a long time to explain, but they kind of understand

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in general that something bad happened.

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They basically took this concept where you're supposed to have two thirds of the Senate

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to change a rule by which everybody operates and they figured out a way to basically come

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up and say, hey, I raise a point of order and then the president pro tempore says that's

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not right.

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And then he says, okay, I appeal, I appeal the ruling and I want you to put it to a vote.

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So anyway, at that time, 2013, they had 52 senators that voted in concert with Reed with

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this conniving plan.

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And then 48 were Democrats and three, I mean, three Democrats and all the rest Republicans

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said, no, we don't want you to do it.

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So it was 52 to 48 and they lost.

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And so I'm going to read you, I just found it here.

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Okay.

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So this is what happened at the very end.

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Under the precedent set by the Senate today, November 21st, 2013, the threshold for cloture

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on nominations, not including those to the Supreme court of the United States is now

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a majority.

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That's simple.

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Can you believe that?

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No.

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So that's how they changed it.

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So that's why all appointments now sail through just on these real thin little minorities.

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It's amazing.

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And the Republicans did the same thing in 2017 for the Supreme court, basically saying

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Mitch McConnell said, I promise you, Harry, over your dead body, which is what it ended

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up being, but I will do the same thing to you that you did to us when we get power.

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And this is the crazy thing about things like the filibuster and changing these rules.

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The power always goes back and forth.

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I mean, I'm a Republican.

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I wished it was always Republicans, but that's just not going to happen.

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And so anyway, as a result of that appointments now sail through, and then because the Republicans

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did the same thing on that same exact procedure, they said, we're going to do the same procedure.

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They actually use the same words and just change Supreme court for the appointments.

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And so now all appointments, Supreme court justices go through with just a thin majority

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vote, which was not the intent.

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It's amazing.

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And it makes the, the judiciary a more political body because of it, because you don't really

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need any cooperation from the minority.

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You said, you said a couple of things that were really interesting in that one.

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You said the rules originally were designed to make sure that the minority always has

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a voice.

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And I love that.

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And I think that's the beauty of a constitutional Republic.

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You know, we hear it all the time.

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Everything is a threat to our democracy.

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Oh my gosh.

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If you've seen those, you know, I don't know if it's a meme, but they show where the news

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system is all saying the same thing.

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And they're all saying the same narrative in the same way, everything's a threat to

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our democracy.

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But truthfully, we started it off the program by saying, we're not a democracy.

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We're a constitutional correct public.

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What, what are the differences between the two?

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We know, we know this.

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We don't want to be a democracy, a straight democracy because a straight democracy is

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simply the majority wins mob.

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In essence, it's mob rule.

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The contrast of course, is the rule of law, right?

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That these laws are given by God.

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These rights are given by God and we limit the role of government.

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Tell us why it's so important that we're a constitutional Republic and not a pure democracy.

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Well you pretty much answered the question with your question, which is exactly right.

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So mob rule, which is great.

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I like it that way.

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Then I can just copy off of you and have a good answer.

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So a constitutional Republic has a structure to it that prevents one branch of the government

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from doing everything.

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So a democracy over time allows for dictatorship.

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I'll give you an example, Venezuela.

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They had a very similar constitution to ours.

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They had a constitutional Republic.

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So Chavez gets in power and now he's mad as heck against the Supreme court because the

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Supreme court keeps knocking him down.

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They believe, they still believe in private property and they say, you know, you can't,

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you can't just take away this guy's company.

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So Chavez gets mad and he packs the court.

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He does what the Senate is trying to do now.

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He adds enough to the Supreme.

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court to dilute the natural majority that they had before. So out of the 45,000 rulings since

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he packed the court, guess how many of those rulings went against Chavez and his successor?

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I would have to think none. Zero.

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Zero. I mean, come on. It's ridiculous.

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So then here's what happened. In his case, he was able then not only to pack the court,

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but he's able to just basically make up laws and then shove them over to the Supreme Court.

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Supreme Court would basically affirm his law, which diminished the power of the legislature.

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So the legislature were becoming and became, and now are, packed with people who vote

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for the president. So the Supreme Court says yes to the president. Legislature says yes to

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the president. It's a dictatorship. So democracies always tend toward either total chaos and anarchy,

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which is rare, or what most of the time happens and what Ben Franklin and Tom Jefferson and John

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Adams were so concerned about, James Madison, all these guys were really concerned about it.

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Talked about it a lot in our Federalist Papers. They adopt our constitution because it prevents

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that. It prevents moving toward a kingdom. It prevents one guy from having control.

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Here's what's interesting.

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Or even a few, right? It could be just ruled by the few.

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Absolutely. All this talk about the Supreme Court, just for grins, from January 1st through June 30th,

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2022, what percent of the cases did the media tell you were ruled either 9 to 0, 8 to 1, or 7 to 2?

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36% were ruled 7 to 2, or 8 to 1, or 9 to 0. 36%. So no argument on 36%. They were freedom issues

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that you couldn't argue against. You had a hard time arguing against. So no argument there. That's

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36%. Now, 67% of the 5 to 4 votes went with liberals. The media doesn't tell you that.

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That was only 21% of the votes. But that 21 plus 36, that gets you to 57. The balance of the votes

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were 6 to 3.

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Wow.

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That's just from January to June of 2022. That's the current Supreme Court. The one with this

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incredible 6 to 3 margin.

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Supreme majority, right. Yeah.

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Sometimes the mix was interesting. You had Gorsuch connected with, I think,

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Sotomayor on one of those. They were the two against the seven. It was for different reasons.

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What I'm trying to say is the Supreme Court needs to be able to make their own argument.

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They've got to be able to look at the Constitution and make their case. I'm not going to agree with

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them all the time. They're not going to agree with me all the time. But we have got to accept

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that the Supreme Court was put in place for a reason, as a part of our constitutional republic,

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for the very reason that the majority is upset right now. To put things in place in

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accordance with the Constitution so that your freedoms don't get vanquished.

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Look at all the things that have been ruled against them that are related to the vaccine

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mandates. Those were things that they didn't want to have ruled against them for those that

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like to have power. But the benefit of them being ruled against is those freedoms have

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been restored to us by constitutional authority. Now the Supreme Court says you can't willy-nilly,

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as the government, tell a company right now that they have to have a vaccine.

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That's because the Constitution made that ruling. That was one of their

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five to four rulings. Or six to three rulings.

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Yeah. I'm super encouraged to hear the... I mean, I would like it to be six, three on every issue

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that I'm in favor of, of course. But I'm really actually encouraged to know that there is that

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independent judiciary because you would not believe that based upon the media and the

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villainization of our current group. You would think they're in lockstep on every issue. This

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is totally polarized. That's just simply not true. So that's a super encouraging thing.

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The other thing that you mentioned in this, and I think it was implied by what you said,

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government is designed to be hard to change. It's designed to be slow. We don't like it

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because it always feels like gridlock. I remember the days of gridlock where

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it felt like the government couldn't get anything done. But in some ways, our system is designed,

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maybe not for gridlock, but certainly to slow down the rate of change. Is that right?

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Absolutely. Because originally with the Constitution, if you include the 10 amendments,

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and I've got to throw the 14th in there too, because that's an area where we were really

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harebrained and we should have gotten that way before 1868. And I know people wanted to,

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but we know the arguments in the case for why it took... Basically, it was the Democrats from the

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South that opposed it, is the bottom line. But when you put the amendments in there,

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and you've got the constitution,

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the 1791 version of the constitution,

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you've got a pretty good government.

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Now we've gone way beyond that,

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but you had a pretty good government.

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So what is in there?

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You have article one for the legislative

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and even within the legislative,

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just look how brilliant this thought is.

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We're gonna have 435,

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eventually is what it turned out to be,

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of these guys representing people,

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and we have a population of 330 million people.

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00:25:30.800 --> 00:25:32.440
In each of our congressional guys,

487
00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:34.600
it comes down to like 840,000 a person.

488
00:25:34.600 --> 00:25:38.200
So one congressional guy is pretty close to the people.

489
00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:40.640
He's got 800 and something thousand in his church,

490
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:43.080
in his chapter that he's representing.

491
00:25:43.080 --> 00:25:44.440
So that's the 435.

492
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:46.080
They have to come up every two years.

493
00:25:46.080 --> 00:25:47.680
So that's intentional.

494
00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:50.040
They want you to be constantly campaigning.

495
00:25:50.040 --> 00:25:51.280
I mean, people say that's so negative.

496
00:25:51.280 --> 00:25:52.880
It's actually a good thing.

497
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:55.320
It forces you to be very close to the people.

498
00:25:55.320 --> 00:25:56.780
It gives you more of the customer service

499
00:25:56.780 --> 00:25:57.620
side of government.

500
00:25:58.280 --> 00:25:59.480
I'm here to serve you and help.

501
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:01.800
Oh, you've got a guy who's blocking a development

502
00:26:01.800 --> 00:26:03.080
over here for no good reason.

503
00:26:03.080 --> 00:26:04.160
But here's what's interesting.

504
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:05.960
So those are two years close to the guy,

505
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:07.120
smaller territory.

506
00:26:07.120 --> 00:26:09.080
Then you've got the staggered six year term,

507
00:26:09.080 --> 00:26:10.580
which is so brilliant.

508
00:26:10.580 --> 00:26:12.360
So it's staggered for the Senate.

509
00:26:12.360 --> 00:26:14.240
And it's six years and it's a bigger territory.

510
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:15.480
It's the whole state.

511
00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:17.400
And so that is really smart.

512
00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:20.240
This guy in the Senate is gonna be more deliberative.

513
00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:21.200
I've got six years.

514
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:22.040
I just got in.

515
00:26:22.040 --> 00:26:23.000
Nobody's gonna remember what happened

516
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:24.240
five and a half years ago.

517
00:26:24.540 --> 00:26:26.140
He's, you know, there's a, you know,

518
00:26:26.140 --> 00:26:27.620
I don't remember the actual joke,

519
00:26:27.620 --> 00:26:29.940
but there's a joke with the content of it

520
00:26:29.940 --> 00:26:31.940
is basically the first year of a Senator

521
00:26:31.940 --> 00:26:34.480
is his most honest because he's constantly

522
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:36.180
trying to do the right thing in that,

523
00:26:36.180 --> 00:26:38.280
in the last, he's doing the right thing in the first year.

524
00:26:38.280 --> 00:26:41.100
And then the last four years in the second year,

525
00:26:41.100 --> 00:26:43.060
maybe sometimes in the last four years,

526
00:26:43.060 --> 00:26:44.340
he's trying to get reelected.

527
00:26:44.340 --> 00:26:47.100
So, but the first year is honest,

528
00:26:47.100 --> 00:26:48.860
but the bottom line is it's staggered.

529
00:26:48.860 --> 00:26:51.820
And so those two legislative bodies are not competitive,

530
00:26:51.820 --> 00:26:53.560
which is powerful.

531
00:26:53.580 --> 00:26:56.140
So the House can just run a majority

532
00:26:56.140 --> 00:26:57.420
and just ignore the minority.

533
00:26:57.420 --> 00:26:58.620
So if you took away the filibuster,

534
00:26:58.620 --> 00:27:00.380
I know you want to talk about that at some point,

535
00:27:00.380 --> 00:27:04.580
you take away the power of the minority to slow things down,

536
00:27:04.580 --> 00:27:06.100
which is a good thing.

537
00:27:06.100 --> 00:27:07.900
If we put everything in place

538
00:27:07.900 --> 00:27:10.260
that the Democrats wanted us to put in place

539
00:27:10.260 --> 00:27:12.900
this last 17, 18 months,

540
00:27:12.900 --> 00:27:15.120
it would be, our country would be gone.

541
00:27:15.120 --> 00:27:16.900
They would have taken away our voting capability.

542
00:27:16.900 --> 00:27:18.580
They would have taken away all kinds of things.

543
00:27:18.580 --> 00:27:21.300
They would have forced this gender nonsense on everybody

544
00:27:21.320 --> 00:27:23.840
in a legal way with the feds being involved.

545
00:27:23.840 --> 00:27:25.840
They would have forced a lot of churches to shut down.

546
00:27:25.840 --> 00:27:27.080
It would have been unbelievable.

547
00:27:27.080 --> 00:27:29.840
All of the stuff from HR1 and HR5

548
00:27:29.840 --> 00:27:32.240
and Build Back Better got into law,

549
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.460
but they were all blocked because of the filibuster.

550
00:27:34.460 --> 00:27:35.300
It's amazing.

551
00:27:35.300 --> 00:27:37.240
And so we will touch on the filibuster

552
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:38.320
because it is so important.

553
00:27:38.320 --> 00:27:40.400
And it's such a political football right now.

554
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:42.700
And it's so important that we keep it,

555
00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:43.540
but let's talk,

556
00:27:43.540 --> 00:27:47.480
let's stick to the overturning of Roe v. Wade

557
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:48.320
just for a minute,

558
00:27:48.320 --> 00:27:52.580
because there was all kinds of conversation and hubbub

559
00:27:52.580 --> 00:27:55.720
around how the Supreme Court of the United States

560
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:59.700
has no right to overturn what they call settled law, right?

561
00:27:59.700 --> 00:28:00.940
Hey, this is settled law.

562
00:28:00.940 --> 00:28:03.240
It's been in place for decades,

563
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.420
but isn't that exactly what the Supreme Court is there to do

564
00:28:07.420 --> 00:28:10.780
to evaluate law against the constitution

565
00:28:10.780 --> 00:28:14.740
and then undo bad laws in the event that they're bad?

566
00:28:14.740 --> 00:28:16.860
First of all, they've done this before, right?

567
00:28:16.860 --> 00:28:17.700
Yeah.

568
00:28:18.040 --> 00:28:19.120
People don't know what they're talking about

569
00:28:19.120 --> 00:28:21.720
because the way that the Supreme Court works

570
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:24.140
is actually to establish constitutional law.

571
00:28:24.140 --> 00:28:26.960
So when the Supreme Court gets it wrong,

572
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.200
it's incumbent upon the Supreme Court to fix bad law.

573
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:32.220
So if you look at what happened

574
00:28:32.220 --> 00:28:37.080
with the unequal treatment of people in this country,

575
00:28:38.040 --> 00:28:42.680
the Supreme Court ratified bad constitutional theory

576
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:46.120
and made it okay to treat people unequally.

577
00:28:46.120 --> 00:28:48.000
We had an amendment that overturned that

578
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:50.520
after we fought a bloody civil war,

579
00:28:50.520 --> 00:28:54.680
but we still had people from the South, Democrats,

580
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:56.880
who wanted to keep some rendition

581
00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:58.880
for themselves of discrimination.

582
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:03.120
They wanted to even keep their ability to have lynching

583
00:29:04.280 --> 00:29:05.840
for people who aren't white,

584
00:29:06.780 --> 00:29:09.240
who committed the same crime of somebody who was white.

585
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:10.080
Unbelievable.

586
00:29:10.080 --> 00:29:12.420
And this is all the way through the fifties.

587
00:29:12.420 --> 00:29:17.420
So the Supreme Court came in and overruled bad law

588
00:29:17.500 --> 00:29:20.420
and said, no, we have to treat people equally, period.

589
00:29:20.420 --> 00:29:23.340
Supreme Court's ruling, that is the new constitutional law.

590
00:29:23.340 --> 00:29:25.340
So when you come up to the SCOTUS ruling,

591
00:29:25.340 --> 00:29:27.460
the Supreme Court ruling for Roe versus Wade,

592
00:29:27.460 --> 00:29:29.540
it's the only thing that the liberals care about

593
00:29:29.540 --> 00:29:32.100
to some extent, because it builds on so many other

594
00:29:32.100 --> 00:29:33.220
of their building blocks.

595
00:29:33.220 --> 00:29:34.980
It helps defeat the nuclear family

596
00:29:34.980 --> 00:29:37.420
and all kinds of other things they care about.

597
00:29:37.420 --> 00:29:40.260
And it opposes all kinds of things I care about.

598
00:29:40.260 --> 00:29:43.180
But let's just look at the law.

599
00:29:43.180 --> 00:29:46.180
I will actually accept what a state rules on,

600
00:29:46.180 --> 00:29:49.380
even if I disagree with it, if they legislate it.

601
00:29:49.380 --> 00:29:50.380
It's close to the state.

602
00:29:50.380 --> 00:29:51.980
Now you're not even talking about federal legislators.

603
00:29:51.980 --> 00:29:53.540
I'm at state legislators.

604
00:29:53.540 --> 00:29:55.940
You're talking about, you know, congressmen

605
00:29:55.940 --> 00:29:58.220
and the equivalent of congressmen and senators

606
00:29:58.220 --> 00:30:00.520
from the state, some of them called them house.

607
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.160
commons, et cetera, but they're close to the people. And if they vote on something and I

608
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:09.920
don't agree with it, I'll still comply with it. I'm not going to change that law. So I'm going

609
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:18.560
to respect that. But what the liberals wanted is for the Supreme Court to uphold a very fallaciously

610
00:30:18.560 --> 00:30:25.280
put together law. There was really no evidence that that law was put together constitutionally.

611
00:30:25.280 --> 00:30:33.120
And as one of the Supreme Court justices said at the time, this law was a legislative ramrod. This

612
00:30:33.120 --> 00:30:39.440
was a legislative force that he had never seen before. They had just invented things. Neither

613
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:45.040
side asked for a trimester concept and the Supreme Court just invented a trimester concept in that

614
00:30:45.040 --> 00:30:50.080
law. Just invented it and decided this is when life starts and this is when it doesn't. And that

615
00:30:50.080 --> 00:30:55.520
was changed in 92. And Casey just made up their own law by changing from this trimester concept

616
00:30:55.520 --> 00:31:01.040
that the Supreme Court just invented. It sounded very legislative. And then this Casey 92 law did

617
00:31:01.040 --> 00:31:06.240
the same thing, except they changed it to the feeling of the mom. If the mom feels a certain

618
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:10.960
way, then it's okay. So, well, I guess in New York, you can feel like you don't want the baby

619
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:17.040
until the baby's out of the womb. Yeah. Yeah. It's ridiculous. And so it really was just bad,

620
00:31:17.040 --> 00:31:20.160
bad. And the reason there was so much fear about it for so long, and the reason they had the

621
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:24.720
Borking thing going on, because Bork would have just blasted the credoodles out of them in one

622
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:30.080
big time. And he was so authoritative in the way he spoke and so smart, nobody could outsmart him.

623
00:31:30.080 --> 00:31:35.040
So that they Borked him. But the reason they were so strong on, the left was so strong on

624
00:31:35.040 --> 00:31:39.200
inventing this concept of coming against a Supreme Court justice for the first time in that way,

625
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:45.120
in a personal way to kind of attack him, not based on his jurisprudence, is because they knew that

626
00:31:45.120 --> 00:31:52.080
the law that was crafted to begin with was faulty. It did not have a constitutional bearing.

627
00:31:52.080 --> 00:32:00.960
Exactly. So for me, at what point can the Supreme Court uphold that it's unconstitutional

628
00:32:01.840 --> 00:32:08.000
to allow states to make laws that impede on other people's right to life? So for example,

629
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:14.480
this decision, all it did, it didn't outlaw abortion. It didn't make it a crime. None of

630
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:20.640
that happened. All it did was send this issue back to the states. But at what point can the

631
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:27.200
Supreme Court consider the fact that an abortion could be infringing upon a greater right, a greater

632
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:33.280
natural right to life, which I believe is protected in the constitution that we all have the right to

633
00:32:33.280 --> 00:32:39.120
life, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in our documents, right? At what point could they

634
00:32:39.120 --> 00:32:45.120
consider that? Well, Justice Alito, as I recall, I don't have it right in front of me, but he

635
00:32:45.120 --> 00:32:50.080
basically mentioned that. And the way he presented it was, I can't remember the exact words, but he

636
00:32:50.080 --> 00:32:56.000
basically said, I'm kind of amazed that none of the dissenters on this six to three decision

637
00:32:56.720 --> 00:33:03.680
ever mention the right of the unborn child at any time. Not ever. I mean, is there no right

638
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:10.480
for this unborn child at any time? So he opened the door for what you're saying, which is to

639
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:16.000
circle back to that. Now, I don't think that's practically going to happen, to be honest. It's

640
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:20.880
just too potent of an issue. So I think what's going to end up happening is the states will

641
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:28.160
basically do what Europe kind of did up to a certain period of time where science is clear

642
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:32.800
beyond any shadow of a doubt. And I'm a person of faith, but for people who don't have any

643
00:33:32.800 --> 00:33:39.680
belief in God, even to them, when there's no doubt that that is a person, then they basically rule

644
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:46.160
that it's illegal. And so that's coming to settle somewhere between 10 and 15 weeks. And of course,

645
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.600
with science and technology, it's getting fewer and fewer weeks, but it's becoming close to the

646
00:33:51.600 --> 00:33:57.920
time that you're even aware that you are pregnant. And so that's already the way it is in Europe and

647
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:02.320
a lot of other countries, Japan, others. And so they were actually more conservative than the

648
00:34:02.320 --> 00:34:06.640
U.S. on a national level, but there's a reason for that. They did it legislatively.

649
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:07.840
Ah, interesting.

650
00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:11.360
And that kind of forces that. But yeah, I don't think that's going to happen,

651
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:12.800
but Alito opened the door for it.

652
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:17.199
Well, it's funny. I have my own personal opinion about whether that should happen,

653
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:20.159
especially living in a state like Colorado, like you and I both do.

654
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:28.080
Colorado just passed one of the most egregious anti-life bills in the history of earth. It's

655
00:34:28.080 --> 00:34:35.280
barbaric, actually. Conferring no rights, like you said, absolutely zero rights to personhood

656
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:41.920
to the unborn child all the way up through delivery, which is just absolutely unconscionable.

657
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:49.199
It's revealing a bit about the actual agenda as far as I'm concerned, but I think that's the

658
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:59.280
perfect law to take to the Supreme Court because they have denied the unborn child any personhood,

659
00:34:59.280 --> 00:34:59.840
any rights.

660
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.360
as a person. And I think we can, you know, you mentioned it.

661
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:07.920
That one, I think you would actually have, I think you would actually have an argument with that one.

662
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:08.320
Yep.

663
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:12.240
And that would be really interesting to see what would happen with that. I just don't think it's

664
00:35:12.240 --> 00:35:13.360
going to happen anytime soon.

665
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:14.320
Probably not because

666
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:20.800
I think it would have to be down the road just because there's so much steam behind this one.

667
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:24.400
It would have to be maybe five, seven years from now, but I think that's an interesting argument

668
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:25.840
and Alito opened the door for it.

669
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.840
That's amazing. It is, it's so contentious, right? And you mentioned the difference between

670
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:36.080
science and faith. Science tells me when life begins and that's actually not in dispute,

671
00:35:36.080 --> 00:35:42.160
right? There's no dispute biologically or according to science about when life begins,

672
00:35:42.160 --> 00:35:49.840
but faith informs my opinion, my belief system about the value of that human life and whether

673
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:54.720
or not we should protect it and when, but science is kind of settled on this issue.

674
00:35:55.120 --> 00:36:01.440
Well, science basically says that at conception, you've got all the elements and I'm sorry for

675
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:05.360
those who are confused about their gender and such, and I don't mean to be not compassionate,

676
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:11.040
but I'm not confused about gender and I don't think God is, but there is support for the

677
00:36:11.040 --> 00:36:16.160
biblical concept of he created them male and female, which is a really powerful verse. It's

678
00:36:16.160 --> 00:36:23.760
the very first part of our Bible. And the concept there is that there was a deposit of God on that

679
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:29.120
person created in his image. What's interesting is science actually kind of proves that out.

680
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:38.240
The DNA, the personality, the gender, that person is a male or a female at that time is known to

681
00:36:38.240 --> 00:36:46.160
science at conception. And you can look this up on WebMD embryo or just type in a couple of things

682
00:36:46.160 --> 00:36:49.360
and they'll explain it to you and they'll show you all kinds of pictures. Yeah, because of the

683
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:54.880
chromosomes, the double X or the XY, we know immediately what the gender of that child is.

684
00:36:56.080 --> 00:36:59.360
And a lot more. And a lot more. That's right. DNA issues and such. So yeah,

685
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:04.800
if you're going to go to faith, the Psalm 139 concept has been supported by science.

686
00:37:06.240 --> 00:37:10.960
Yes. Well, it's amazing. I think that this is going to continue to be an issue, of course,

687
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:15.360
and it's why we have to protect the role of the Supreme Court. One thing, real quick,

688
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:24.480
I want you to comment a little bit about why we allowed protesting outside of the Supreme Court

689
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:32.480
justices' homes when that is a clear violation of federal law. Isn't that right? It's a clear

690
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:36.960
violation of federal law. It's also a clear violation of state and city municipal law.

691
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:43.120
That is called weenie. That's called no sheriff stepping up and coming in when he could have.

692
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.680
Any one of those local sheriffs could have come in and just asserted their authority and said,

693
00:37:47.680 --> 00:37:50.960
the heck with what everybody else is not doing here, I'm going to just assert my authority.

694
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:56.560
The local police could have asserted themselves. They've got municipal code that supports that.

695
00:37:56.560 --> 00:37:59.840
You're not supposed to be able to go to somebody's house and harass them. You just can't do that.

696
00:38:01.680 --> 00:38:06.400
Not even if you're a judge. Then you put on top of that the envelope of a federal

697
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:11.520
appointed position, and there's a whole other layer of protection. Then on top of that,

698
00:38:11.520 --> 00:38:18.400
you put a Supreme Court justice, of which there are only nine on the planet. They have a specific

699
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:23.920
call out for you not being able to go against, to try to harass them in any way, shape, or form

700
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:32.080
to change their mind. All of these violations are, in my opinion, a sign of a really bad moment,

701
00:38:32.080 --> 00:38:36.320
which really needs to get spanked. I'm hoping at these next elections, they get spanked badly for

702
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:41.280
it. But this is in contradiction to what the whole constitution is based on.

703
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:44.720
John Adams comes out the gate and says, look, man, this constitution is a republic.

704
00:38:45.600 --> 00:38:53.440
It's kind of simple, but it's not got the capability to handle anything but a moral

705
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:57.680
people. You've got to have moral people running it, or it won't work. It's the same thing. If

706
00:38:57.680 --> 00:39:01.520
you're not going to enforce the law, I mean, look at Portland, look at Seattle. These are

707
00:39:01.520 --> 00:39:08.640
beautiful cities, gorgeous. It breaks your heart. You go to Portland now, you are afraid to go

708
00:39:08.640 --> 00:39:14.240
there. You go to LA. I mean, I was born in Pasadena. I always had a nostalgia for Southern

709
00:39:14.240 --> 00:39:23.360
California. You go to LA, I cannot believe how bad it is. The needles all over the place, the

710
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:29.200
level of degradation and safety, and that's all because you're not enforcing the law.

711
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:33.360
What they didn't do with the Supreme Court justices that's happening everywhere else is

712
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:39.280
really a violation of our whole code of ethic. You're supposed to uphold the law. When they

713
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didn't do that, they really denigrated themselves, and that really needs to get corrected.

714
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I think as just an everyday citizen, it's disturbing that people can be encouraged to

715
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harass people when they're out in public, whether they're at restaurants. We saw that happen

716
00:39:55.200 --> 00:40:00.480
with Justice Gorsuch and others. We're seeing a

717
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elected officials, encourage people to get up in people's faces and harass them.

718
00:40:05.300 --> 00:40:10.000
It's just the breakdown of a civil society based upon virtues and values that we used

719
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to have in common.

720
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:14.320
And of course, it's part of the overall agenda, right?

721
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:20.040
To increase the control and power of those few in power and to really make the rest of

722
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us just subjects.

723
00:40:21.040 --> 00:40:26.480
You know, they had two organizations that I was able to find a podcast or two ago, and

724
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:28.960
I just spent the last one and I identified them.

725
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:34.280
And these organizations were giving bounties to give locations.

726
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.540
That's how they knew Gorsuch was at Morton's Chophouse.

727
00:40:37.540 --> 00:40:40.200
And they were able to go and intimidate the general manager.

728
00:40:40.200 --> 00:40:42.240
And of course, security wasn't going to wait around.

729
00:40:42.240 --> 00:40:45.800
They got him out of there and they said, we're not going to wait to figure out what happens

730
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:46.800
here.

731
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.920
But, you know, he's just trying to enjoy a meal in a pretty fair, kind of a private type

732
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:51.920
of a restaurant.

733
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.720
It's quiet and sort of dark.

734
00:40:54.720 --> 00:40:57.760
And you know, the general manager did a good job of saying, go pound sand.

735
00:40:57.760 --> 00:40:58.960
We're not going to be intimidated by it.

736
00:40:58.960 --> 00:40:59.960
But can you believe that?

737
00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:05.040
They're giving people bounties to locate Supreme Court justices so that they can be harassed.

738
00:41:05.040 --> 00:41:10.800
And then they have these people already, they're like, they can be ignited on the fly.

739
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.360
They pull the trigger and boom, you can get a whole bunch of people over to protest.

740
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:16.360
Yes.

741
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:17.360
Very, very, very bad.

742
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:18.360
That's troubling.

743
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:21.760
And that is not the way that our constitution is set up.

744
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:28.200
It's set up for good people to be ordered in a way with limited government so that you

745
00:41:28.200 --> 00:41:30.400
can freely enjoy your life.

746
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:31.680
But it requires good people.

747
00:41:31.680 --> 00:41:32.680
Yeah.

748
00:41:32.680 --> 00:41:36.200
And at the same time, they're trying to take away our second amendment rights to not only

749
00:41:36.200 --> 00:41:39.480
protect ourselves against the tyranny of the government, but also to protect ourselves

750
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:45.480
just in a common sense, you know, self-defense environment, which, which can you imagine

751
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:47.620
in the environment we currently sit in?

752
00:41:47.620 --> 00:41:48.620
We didn't have that right.

753
00:41:48.620 --> 00:41:51.780
And the good news is the court just ruled that, you know, you can't put unreasonable

754
00:41:51.780 --> 00:41:54.860
restrictions on someone's right to conceal carry.

755
00:41:54.860 --> 00:41:56.860
So I think that's another big win.

756
00:41:56.860 --> 00:41:59.260
That was a six to three, that was a six to three win.

757
00:41:59.260 --> 00:42:03.020
They got all mad about that, but it was a good six to three when it was based on constitutional

758
00:42:03.020 --> 00:42:04.020
law.

759
00:42:04.020 --> 00:42:09.060
You know, Thomas comes out and says, look, the second amendment is pretty clear.

760
00:42:09.060 --> 00:42:11.620
I mean, it says shall not be infringed.

761
00:42:11.620 --> 00:42:12.620
Yeah.

762
00:42:12.620 --> 00:42:14.540
I mean, what else do you need?

763
00:42:14.540 --> 00:42:18.620
And so he's like, you can't make it a weaker thing just because you don't like it.

764
00:42:18.620 --> 00:42:19.620
Right.

765
00:42:19.620 --> 00:42:20.620
And it was thought through.

766
00:42:20.620 --> 00:42:23.380
It was one of the 10 amendments that survived.

767
00:42:23.380 --> 00:42:24.380
Yeah.

768
00:42:24.380 --> 00:42:25.380
Thank God it did.

769
00:42:25.380 --> 00:42:26.380
I'll tell you that.

770
00:42:26.380 --> 00:42:29.460
I mean, you know, I would hate to be in a situation where only the bad guys have the

771
00:42:29.460 --> 00:42:31.540
ability to do significant harm.

772
00:42:31.540 --> 00:42:32.540
And I would.

773
00:42:32.540 --> 00:42:33.540
What about that Indiana guy?

774
00:42:33.540 --> 00:42:35.260
Oh my gosh.

775
00:42:35.260 --> 00:42:36.260
The young hero.

776
00:42:36.260 --> 00:42:37.260
Yes.

777
00:42:37.260 --> 00:42:38.260
Yes.

778
00:42:38.260 --> 00:42:43.140
And there, and it goes on unreported of course, but there's estimates that between 300,000

779
00:42:43.140 --> 00:42:52.260
and 500,000 times law abiding citizens intervene and prevent crimes because they're concealed

780
00:42:52.260 --> 00:42:53.260
carries.

781
00:42:53.260 --> 00:42:54.260
I mean, it's incredible.

782
00:42:54.260 --> 00:42:55.260
I believe that.

783
00:42:55.260 --> 00:42:56.260
Yeah.

784
00:42:56.260 --> 00:43:02.900
I can tell you that I just saw a statistic yesterday where 22 of the 400 mass shootings

785
00:43:02.900 --> 00:43:03.900
were stopped.

786
00:43:03.900 --> 00:43:04.900
Wow.

787
00:43:04.900 --> 00:43:05.900
By a guy.

788
00:43:05.900 --> 00:43:06.900
Yeah.

789
00:43:06.900 --> 00:43:08.900
22 of the 400 were stopped.

790
00:43:08.900 --> 00:43:12.780
And I think that's like since 2000 or something, 2000 to present, there's been 400 mass shootings.

791
00:43:13.420 --> 00:43:18.420
I guess a mass shooting is three or more get killed, but that's still a lot and you don't

792
00:43:18.420 --> 00:43:23.180
ever hear the media talking about, Hey, thank God for all of the 22 times, what half a dozen

793
00:43:23.180 --> 00:43:28.140
people that survived because the good guy shot the bad guy that had a concealed carry.

794
00:43:28.140 --> 00:43:29.140
He wasn't a cop.

795
00:43:29.140 --> 00:43:30.420
The cops didn't have time to get there.

796
00:43:30.420 --> 00:43:31.420
Yeah.

797
00:43:31.420 --> 00:43:34.860
All of my military friends, especially the guys that did special ops, special forces

798
00:43:34.860 --> 00:43:39.700
guys, they'll all say the best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a

799
00:43:39.700 --> 00:43:40.700
gun.

800
00:43:40.700 --> 00:43:41.700
Absolutely.

801
00:43:41.700 --> 00:43:42.700
And you know, they're right.

802
00:43:43.620 --> 00:43:47.340
We've covered a lot of ground and this is so important that we do this because we need

803
00:43:47.340 --> 00:43:49.820
an educated citizenry.

804
00:43:49.820 --> 00:43:53.040
We need people to know what our structure is.

805
00:43:53.040 --> 00:43:57.620
But as we wrap up the show, you know, let's encourage our listeners, tell them what they

806
00:43:57.620 --> 00:44:02.020
can do to make a difference and defend freedom and keep America strong.

807
00:44:02.020 --> 00:44:06.020
What from your seat, what are some ways that we can encourage our listeners?

808
00:44:06.020 --> 00:44:09.980
Well first of all, just read article one, two, and three of the constitution.

809
00:44:09.980 --> 00:44:10.980
They're pretty easy.

810
00:44:10.980 --> 00:44:11.980
It won't take you that long.

811
00:44:12.380 --> 00:44:13.940
Read the declaration of independence.

812
00:44:13.940 --> 00:44:17.980
Look at the Federalist Papers and educate yourself.

813
00:44:17.980 --> 00:44:24.100
But what you can do is vote and you've got to vote with people that are closer to the

814
00:44:24.100 --> 00:44:27.820
original concept of ruling and governing.

815
00:44:27.820 --> 00:44:33.260
And that is that you're there to start with a freedom principle and then build and develop

816
00:44:33.260 --> 00:44:37.020
legal theory and legislation from there.

817
00:44:37.020 --> 00:44:41.380
You're not supposed to start with how can I control people and get something accomplished.

818
00:44:41.780 --> 00:44:45.140
You're starting from a freedom principle, protecting that freedom principle, and then

819
00:44:45.140 --> 00:44:48.100
administering what's to the benefit of folks from there.

820
00:44:48.100 --> 00:44:51.380
And keep in mind that general welfare was to the states.

821
00:44:51.380 --> 00:44:55.100
And so it's not for the federal government to determine general welfare.

822
00:44:55.100 --> 00:44:57.740
It's the states to determine the federal welfare.

823
00:44:57.740 --> 00:44:59.980
So I love it when people do that.

824
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.600
refresh themselves on the 10th Amendment, the whole concept of the states having a lot of authority was also another check and balance.

825
00:45:06.600 --> 00:45:11.920
So you get the check and the balance within the legislative, the check and the balance between the legislative and the executive and the courts,

826
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:22.200
and the check and the balance between the feds and the states. It's a good mix of, hey, government, you serve us, we are the people. And this is a

827
00:45:22.200 --> 00:45:29.600
government of the people and by the people, and it's for the people. Yes. And so I think when we forget that we end up with all these crazy bad

828
00:45:29.600 --> 00:45:36.360
legislative ideas, and when we remember that, we come up with good ways to set people free and let them live prosperous lives.

829
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:45.120
Yes. Well, that is a great, a great and encouraging note to end on. Get involved, engage in the voting process, engage at the local and state

830
00:45:45.120 --> 00:45:51.440
levels, because that's where a lot of this really gets settled. Very, you've been awesome. Thank you so much for the way you've undertaken

831
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:52.680
the topics. Yeah, you're the best.

832
00:45:52.680 --> 00:45:53.400
A lot of fun to be with you.

833
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:54.280
God bless you, man.

834
00:45:54.840 --> 00:46:04.560
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