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Hi guys, and welcome to another episode of Truth Talk with Wendy.

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I am so excited to come to you today and tell you about a life-changing experience that

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I just had.

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If you guys have noticed, I probably have not put an episode out in a while.

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I have been gone, and I had the privilege of literally traveling across the world to

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the place where Jesus was born and raised and died and rose again, and I literally walked

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in his steps.

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Yes, I went to Israel.

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I cannot find the words to explain to you the impact that this trip has had on me.

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Clearly, if any of you have watched for any length of time, you know that my mission in

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life has been to be an advocate for children of childhood sexual abuse, like survivors,

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and to keep that from happening to other children, and I love what I do, absolutely

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love what I do.

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I love that I've been able to implement stuff here at my own home and then also help many,

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many other families and youth groups and women's groups and stuff with the information that

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God has shown me in years and years and years of research.

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That research gets very dark, as I'm assuming that you guys would know, but I have never

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complained about doing it, or actually, there's times that in doing my own research, it actually

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validates a lot of the feelings that I've had and the struggles that I've had because

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I know I'm not alone, so there's been a lot of healing in it as well, but again, it is

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a very, very dark place to be, you know, five, six, seven days a week, so this trip,

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I had no idea what to expect, of course, I mean, I've been a Christian since I can remember.

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I really don't even remember the day I got saved, probably because there was eight of

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them.

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I was saved and baptized eight times under my dad's teaching because he scared me to

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death and I would like literally dive to the altar to make sure that this one stuck, just

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in case I got hit by a bus on the way home, so I can't even remember what day, but I do

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remember like just constantly, always, never, there wasn't like a day I was like, oh, okay,

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now I believe in God, you know, like there was never a time that I didn't always believed

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in Jesus.

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I did not believe in the Holy Spirit, that was not something that we learned.

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That was, actually, we were told that the Holy Spirit was not even real, I know that's

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weird, extremely weird for me to even say those words out loud with everything I know

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now, but that was how we were raised and we were raised that the Holy Spirit was not a

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thing and that it was really demonic, if anybody was talking about, you know, a spirit of any

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kind.

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So, and now I really kind of think that I am understanding why that there was a desire

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to keep the Holy Spirit from me and from lots of people when I was growing up because what

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I found in Israel was so many, I literally thought I was going to go over there and get

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like all these questions answered, like I had a ton of questions and I left Israel with

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more questions than I went with, which was frustrating, but at the same time, God willing,

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I am going back in September.

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So I'm, I am constructing a new list of questions to match the other list that wasn't answered

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plus a ton more.

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So I am going to get my answers.

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What I recognized very, very quickly was that there are things that, that have been kept

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from me for my entire life, 52 years, okay, 52 years of being in church and reading the

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Bible and having a relationship with, with Jesus and now the Holy Spirit.

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There is stuff that I have never even been made aware of.

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I did not even know to ask questions such as these things.

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that I was finally exposed to and the thing that's frustrating about that is I

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am a truth seeker by nature so when you have people in your life that have

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betrayed you and you have people in your life that have lied to you to cover up

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their sin and their betrayal and you know just to cover themselves really and

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you those are the people that you should be able to trust more than anybody you

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start looking to whatever you can to find the answers that you don't have and

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that is what my entire adult life has been is a truth-seeking mission what was

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frustrating was being in a place where I literally did not even know that like

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for instance one of the places that we were taken to was first what they told

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us was this is where Jesus died and where he was buried but then the next

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day we went to another place that oh this is where other people believe Jesus

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died and was buried I'm like it can't be this complicated like this like what do

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you mean there's two different places and like where am I had no idea even

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where I was in regards to like we didn't drive from point A to point B so

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I have been in a bus for several hours in between those and it was not even the

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same day so you know I could have been in Egypt and wouldn't have known but it

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was it was frustrating because I don't know why there would be two places so

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what that what that forced me to do was start asking a ton of questions and I

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got different answers depending on who I asked so the problem with that is I'm

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asking a man right I'm asking this man and I'm asking this man I'm getting two

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different answers okay and that's great but there was no man that I can ask that

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question to that was at the crucifixion and the resurrection but thankfully for

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me the stuff that I learned as a child which was that the Holy Spirit isn't

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real that is not true because the Holy Spirit lives inside of me and guess who

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was at the crucifixion and the resurrection the Holy Spirit so

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thankfully I have learned in my adult life to really depend on his peace so

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here's what I will tell you I do not know a hundred percent if Jesus died at

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the church of the Holy Sepulcher which was one of the places we were taken or

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if he died at the garden tomb which was the other place we were taking I have no

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idea nor do you nor does anybody watch this video nor does any scholar on the

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planet because none of us were there but the Holy Spirit knows so I am

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entrusting the Holy Spirit to give me peace about what he wants me to believe

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okay now I can use a little bit of reason from my own spiritual walk okay I

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can I can tell you what I've experienced and I can tell you that usually when I

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am right over the mark of something there is more spiritual warfare than

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there is at times when I'm not you know I'm not doing anything or I'm not

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exposing something or whatever you know but the spiritual warfare is a real

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thing so as of right now my tendency is to lean towards that Jesus died and was

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buried at the church of the Holy Sepulcher and I'll tell you why when we

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went to the garden tomb there was no fighting or you know pushing your way

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through because it was so crowded it was very very easy to get in very few people

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there we sat down with a little headset heard the little speech and walked into

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the tomb and we left I mean there was not any no spiritual warfare like like

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that okay I have my own personal issue that I was dealing with and that had to

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do with the guide that was assigned to the garden tomb for that like two month

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period is what we were told they come over and volunteer and she couldn't

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speak very very good English and she had some personal opinions that she

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threw into her speech and it was really frustrating for me because again I'm

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looking for truth I'm not looking for someone's opinion so that that was my

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own personal thing I was struggling with but I can tell you this when I was taken

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to the church of the Holy Sepulcher the the second I walked in the door the

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second I walked in

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door the amount of people is overwhelming the nine I think it is

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Protestant what do you call them you know bigwig people that are in control

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of Church of the Holy Sepulcher there's nine denominations or sects of

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Christianity whatever whatever they want to call themselves there's nine of them

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that control this church nine none of them agree with the other none of them

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so much so that if this is the story we were told that if this sec comes over

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this person's line to change a light bulb there's like an uproar and this got

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so out of hand at times there have been literal fistfights among the priests or

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the monks or whatever they're called they've literally physically hit each

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other and one time it was so bad that whoever controls the door of the entry

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you know like there's it's broken up into nine parts so whoever controlled

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the door just decided they were just gonna lock the door like nobody's

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getting in nobody's getting out so they just locked the door I mean this is like

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romper room I mean it's it's embarrassing to be associated with any

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of that to be really honest with you but it is exactly what the enemy would

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want I mean exactly what he would want and when I was there you have like when

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you go in you have to go up the stairs to get to you know because Jesus died on

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a you know on a hillside and so you have to go up the stairs and then there was

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this ginormous line and it was clearly a line some people didn't care that it was

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a line they were just gonna you know go right around you and you know you're

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you're trying to I mean you you are literally steps from where the foot of

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the cross is right so you're you're not wanting to be like hey yo dude get in

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the back you know I mean like you're so aware or should be anyway of where you

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are that you're trying to maintain a good attitude you know people are

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literally like pressed up against you there are so many people and everyone I

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mean there's a million languages you couldn't understand anybody if unless

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you spoke them all so you don't know what they're saying and people are

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cutting in line and people are just so rude and I just remember just just

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asking the Lord you're gonna have to help me I really want to be in this line

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I want to get to the foot of the cross because because when you get up there

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and let me just say it is so gaudy like it's so distracting from what I know

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it looked like on the day Jesus died you know these people they come in and

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they they build this monument over every site in Israel where anything is

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discovered so that they can control it and and then preserve it and you know in

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the same way I get the preservation part but I mean it's just the level of

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control and it and then they they literally hang ornaments and everything

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in gold and it's so gaudy I cannot explain to you and and I'm gonna come

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back to that in just a minute because this was bothering me a lot but anyway

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so I'm asking the Lord please like prepare my heart for this because I knew

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when I got up if and when I got up to the cross they they've made like an

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altar and and you can you can literally kneel down under this altar and there is

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a hole where they say that that that's where the base of the cross went into I

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mean it's like the thought I'm asking chill but I'm thinking about it the

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thought that Jesus cross was in this hole that I put my hand into I I just I

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cannot process that and that's what I was waiting for was to get to that place

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and so that moment and that just unbelievable blessing and opportunity to

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be at that spot and what that would do just to someone's faith I can see why

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there's so much fighting and pushing and shoving I I am just convinced that I

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don't know how many angels exactly but I know that when Satan was kicked out of

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heaven a third of the angels followed him I think he sent half of them to the

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Church of the Holy Sepulcher that's what I'm saying it is so bad it is so so bad

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there and I just don't see why he would be

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spending that much time and effort to frustrate people and to make it look so

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bad on Christians with all the infighting and everything if if it was

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not a big deal right if that place wasn't really holy and sacred and the

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exact place where Jesus defeated Satan right I think Satan is fighting back as

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hard as he can and unfortunately for him you know we all know how that story ends

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and it's not good for him so anyway that the fact that I feel like on the trip I

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was led to believe that the other place was the place where Jesus died um and

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and and if that's your belief you know I think it is up to every individual to

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ask the Holy Spirit who was the only one that was there and for the Holy

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Spirit to give you peace about it because I have friends that were on this

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trip that they believe that and that I am totally fine with that which is what

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we should be able to accept because guess what my dad had a six-part sermon

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series on why you should never taste alcohol or you would go to hell okay so

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and for some people not drinking at all is a personal conviction for them that

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is something that they believe that the Holy Spirit wants of them whether it is

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a situation of you know their position in a church you know if they're in

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leadership or they have family history and the Holy Spirit is just trying to

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keep them from having any issues or just a I just don't want you to drink you

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know like the Nazarenes like they were not allowed to drink there were certain

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people that you know Samson's one of them that you know God told Samson's

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parents you know he's never to cut his hair and he's never to taste alcohol so

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those are things that you know Jesus or God specifically picked people and that's

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between them and God right that is not my conviction so it's okay for two

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Christians worshipping the same Jesus to have two different opinions about two

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things that neither one of us were actually there but what does the Holy

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Spirit give me peace about it's not the same as what he gives you peace about

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you know what that's great let's go visit your site and I want to experience

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that with you and I want to be there in the moment and I want to cry with you

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and I want to remember with you and then if you want to come with me then we'll

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you know go over there and we'll hope to God not to get shoved and separated and

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we'll go to the cross and kneel together you know that's the unity that I believe

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you know that God wants for all of us not a backbiting fighting or even a

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manipulation of trying to make me think one thing because that's what you think

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and that for me was eye-opening very very eye-opening and so in a nutshell I

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came back with a ton of questions and I am on a mission to find out the things

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that have never been presented to me places that I've never been that I read

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about and when we go back in September I want to go to Sodom and Gomorrah the

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place where the only place where God ever rained fire and brimstone down from

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heaven and you can go to this place and literally pick the brimstone out of the

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ash of the structures that is there I mean I I just I don't know I hope I

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don't get arrested on the way home for the bag of brimstone that I'm gonna be

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bringing home I'm so excited and just I mean there's so many places and and what

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I want to just share with you today I'm trying to keep this brief there's so

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much I could talk until you know next week but I'm gonna bring back when we

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start season three we are gonna launch with an episode or maybe two just

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depending on how long it takes of a friend of mine a new friend of mine that

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was on this trip that has been to Israel 25 times and loves teaching and she's

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amazing at it like she's the she's the one where it like it penetrates your

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heart I can't explain it and I don't want to ruin it because she's gonna do

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it here for us and we will get into some of the details of the different places

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that we went and and then when I go back I'm Lord willing if she goes with me

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then we will have even more to share because here's what's happened after

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decades of researching horrible darkness which you know unfortunately for us in

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the world we live in and those of us who have children it's necessary because we

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want to be good parents and we want to protect our kids and I will continue to

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do that and I will continue to

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Report on things like that and we have another podcast that I'm starting with

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My brother and you know, we are both ex preachers kids, and I don't know if anybody has been keeping up

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But you know preachers are biting the dust left and right right now like every time you you know

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Look, there's another pastor who's been arrested for this or that and it's it's just really bad again

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opportunity for me to go because it has

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like literal firsthand documentaries from people who tour over there and who have gone and

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Mount whatever, you know mount zion or mount arbel or whatever they're talking about. It's so crazy to go

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Oh, I sat on the top of that mountain or when they talk about jacob's well, and i'm like, oh look

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This is water from jacob's. Well, like okay. Let me let me tell you about jacob's

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He told her about herself and she was so overwhelmed. First of all that he was a jew talking to her and secondly

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So by the word of her testimony and then after they heard from her by the blood of the lamb, right?

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So they all believed because this woman was so overwhelmed. Well, he met her at jacob's well jacob

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like, you know abraham isaac jacob like that jacob, so this well is

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So old like thousands of years old and we went to the well

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Did the little thingy where it goes down and gets the water which is like 120 or 140 feet down?

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that this woman

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around that and it is so

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Convicting when you're standing there to go

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Like the woman of samaria, you know, we we want to go because he said to her, you know

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Go get your husband and she's like, oh, I don't have a husband

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he's like you were right and saying you don't have a husband because

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You've had five husbands and the man you're living with now is not even your husband, you know

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It's like that's probably nothing compared to some of the things that we've done, right?

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But we don't have anybody broadcasting it and putting in a book where 2 000 years later people are reading about it, right?

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this is that place and so this is just one of the things that I was able to do another story in the bible that

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uh, just I relate to so much is when the um,

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Alabaster jar of ointment came and broke it

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His disciples are freaking out like how much did that cost and all the stuff and then he goes into this whole thing

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You know, she's been forgiven much so she loves much, you know, this

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An alabaster jar now, this is clearly not the same ointment that you know, she had but it's representative

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Of that but this was like, um, if my memory serves, right?

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Total love for jesus just broke it and anointed him with it. And I just think okay

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It's just a for me as it sits, you know in my sight

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a reminder of you know, what what am I willing to give up for jesus like

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you know especially right now where you know people are complaining about the

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gas prices and food prices would anybody take a year of their salary and just

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hand it over in ointment to prepare someone's body for death and burial

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because that's what she was doing I it's just and in that same light this right

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here I don't know if you guys can see this I'm gonna try to put it up there

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but I don't know how this right here this is a widow's mite okay so in the

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Bible Jesus goes into the temple and a widow gives two mites okay so she had

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two of these and this was in the time of Tiberius so this is when Jesus was there

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I'm telling myself this was one of the mites that she gave because I'm all

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excited about it but um she gave every single thing she had everything she only

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had two mites and I think in our terms like that doesn't add up to a penny like

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that's what I've heard now I'm not clearly I'm not a I'm not a historian so

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I'm gonna find out that like what that's really worth today but it was everything

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that she had and and that's why Jesus put her on the map and told the people

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that he knew he would inspire them to write the Bible so that no one would

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ever forget about this woman and I just you know it's just crazy to me when I

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have these little tokens of things that are just reminders we have so much and

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we are so blessed and we complain about everything literally everything and and

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I know we have a lot that is wrong in our country and we have a lot that is

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wrong in the world a lot and there's evil everywhere there is evil all around

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us but what I really think is we have focused on that and I'm not saying that

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that's not I'm not saying that that is a sin or anything like that what I'm

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saying is is it's stealing from us the light and the joy that Jesus died for us

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to have and it was such a reminder to be back in a place or to be in a place

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that all of that happened that he that's that's where he chose to come when he

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wrapped himself in flesh to come to this earth to be like us and teach us how we

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could be more like him and that's the part that I I was overwhelmed with is

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just how amazing it was to literally walk in his steps and there were places

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that nobody argues about like this is the first century synagogue or this is

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the gate Jesus walked through for this and so you know when you're standing

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there that this is where Jesus stood and it's so humbling and the the focus

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on that and the focus to learn more and to dive deeper and to read more and learn

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more about everything Jesus did and how all of that points back to God and how

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even Jesus when he was asked would still deflect all glory to God when they asked

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him you know they called him good teacher good rabbi or whatever and he's

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like why do you call me good there's nobody good but the father you know and

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you're just thinking it's okay for you to be called good really it is like you

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are so good you know but he he even in his deity as a man said there's no one

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good but my father and did everything that God told him to do and said

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everything God told him to say to where finally on the cross he was able to say

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it is finished you know and none of us come even close to being able to live up

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to that nor nor are we required to do that I mean I have a friend that said to

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me you know if God wanted something done perfectly he would so not involve humans

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because we are expected to mess it up and so there's a little bit of you know

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pressure we put on ourselves to try to be you know really really good and all

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of that and we're just not going

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to be it's a constant reminder of how much we actually need God and need Jesus

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and I'm just excited because this place has has changed the way that I am gonna

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go about my daily absorption of information and it's going to help me to

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focus more if if I could move over there of course my husband says no my children

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say no but if I could move over there I would because I don't think I could be

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there like I don't know how many years I have left but I'm not quite sure I could

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see everything and it's so vast and it's so amazing and I'm so excited to even

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have an opportunity to go back but I just know that that even if we never get

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to go that God's left us that whole story and everything about him and then

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thanks to you know in the Bible and then thanks to certain technology and

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video and YouTube and all of the stuff that we have today we can also literally

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walk you know alongside somebody who is there so I would just encourage you guys

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to really focus on things that are positive and things that bring light and

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life and joy and the only thing that lasts in any of those areas is our walk

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with the Lord and so I'm just going to encourage you if you haven't already I

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would I would maybe Google or you know search on YouTube some of these videos

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and seriously consider making a journey if you've never been I promise you will

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never ever regret it if you have been you know what I'm talking about maybe

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it's been a while you can go back I don't know but I am going to be bringing

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you actual footage of our Mediterranean Sea or was that the Sea of Galilee I

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can't remember where I think it was the Sea of Galilee we there are so many

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different bodies of water I think we wouldn't know it is the Sea of Galilee

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yeah because this is our little thing that we bought there was a boat that we

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went out on and it was we got to go at night like so the Sun was about to set it

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hadn't quite set so it was still light outside and we get on this boat and it's

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a it's a boat like Jesus would have been on you know the wooden boat it was crazy

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and the worship music started and you were literally on the Sea of Galilee and

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you're thinking this is exactly what Jesus did and the worship music and just

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that I mean it felt like the postcard like came to life it was so because you

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know I didn't even know that we were going there so I was not even mentally

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prepared for what was happening so it took me a little bit to process through

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that but I'm like what in the world like this is unreal and just things like that

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that I can't wait to just show you some video and you'll see what I mean but um

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I just today I wanted to share with you how everything in our life that seems so

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negative it seems you know so bad I mean it you know it's it's not a great time

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to be an American right now because of everything that we're going through but

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I promise you it could be way worse and as much as you know a lot of us don't

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like what's going on politically and we're being forced into things that we

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don't agree with and all all of it I you know we have to deal with some of that

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because you know we're living here in this world but I would just say let's

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just try not to focus on it I know for me I am in a whole nother place when I'm

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watching something that that has to do with Israel because that's where our

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Savior chose to meet us is right there so I just want to encourage you today

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and I want you to look forward to the the actual videos of our actual

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experience like like even walking through Hezekiah's tunnel if y'all know

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what that is y'all just prepare yourself it was like felt like a thousand feet

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under the earth but it was like seventeen hundred and fifty feet long of

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a tunnel that Hezekiah dug for the water supply I mean it just the stuff and then

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you can literally go straight to the Bible and see like where he did that I

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mean it's just like nuts you know where if you don't know that if you don't walk

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through that you just like read right over that when you're going through the

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Old Testament you know just trying to get through it but then you know when

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you read about something and you go oh I I was right there in the field where

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David killed Goliath it's like a whole nother experience

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So anyway, I'm excited to bring that stuff to you guys and we will be doing that soon

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But in the meantime, I just want you guys to try to really focus on more positive

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Like I am and I really feel like it will do for you the same thing that it's done for me and it just makes me

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So thankful for the Holy Spirit who is real

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He is real look is real. He is he actually is a real

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Holy Spirit and he lives in us and

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He wants to give us wisdom and he wants to give us peace about what it is

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That is the truth and that's what we're after right? I'm a truth seeker

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So I think a lot of you guys are too

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So thank you guys so much for tuning in today, and we will see you next time on truth talk with Wendy