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Hello, everybody, and welcome to the final day of School of the

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Prophets. I cannot believe it's the final day. Like, where did

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this whole week go? It's crazy. Flew by. Yeah, it felt like the

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first day was like a full day and long. I was like, well,

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there was like three days in one. And then all of a sudden

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felt like the days just went so far. Flew. Well, you guys, if

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this is your first time to Coffee Chats, that's where you

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are. This is our segment Coffee Chats, where we get the

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privilege to sit down with our speakers of School of the

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Prophets. It's been so fun. And like usual, you can put your

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name in your little box so we can see who you are. And let us

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know in the chat where you're tuning in from. It's always fun

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to see where everyone is from and joining us from all around

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the world. So fun. Reese, I was just telling Haley that you were

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on the call the other night, and we found out that you are like

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16 or 17 years old. And I just have to say that is amazing. I

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wish I was doing this at 16 or 17 years old. Look at that

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revival shirt. Come on. This is what we live for. It's amazing.

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So good. And Kath, always on the call. I love it. Oh, Stacy, too.

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Hi, guys. So fun. Oh, my gosh. And Little Babes is joining us

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today, too. Sweet. Well, Haley, how are you this morning?

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I'm fantastic. I'm ready. Honestly, my favorite part is

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impartation. So I'm so ready for that. I had a man last night

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ask me in the coffee shop, what's been kind of the

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highlight of the conference for me? And I'm like, when I just

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see people encounter the Holy Spirit, be that through a

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teaching, be that through prayer, be that through like

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some kind of revelation that they receive that I just want to

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see God transform lives. And I think so. I'm so excited for

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impartation because I know that that's a really powerful time.

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And you know what? I helped pioneer our online school, our

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BSM online school the last two years, and I've seen God

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radically touch people online. And I didn't think that that

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could happen. If I'm honest, I thought like, you know, maybe

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there'd be a measure. But the level of faith that it actually

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requires to do a school like this online actually creates a

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pull in the Spirit. And it actually like, I've actually

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seen sometimes greater outbreak and greater healings online

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that I have in person at times because of the level of faith

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that it requires to receive. And so I just want to encourage you

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guys to get ready. God's going to do something powerful. And

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sometimes it's like sometimes you receive the power in the

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moment, and sometimes you receive a seed. And I just want

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to encourage you, like whether it's a power encounter or you're

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receiving a seed, take that and nurture it because I believe

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that it's really going to bring transformation.

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So good. I love that. It's awesome. So fun. We've had a

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great time with our online community this year. It's been

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amazing. So I'm going to ask you a few questions and we can kind

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of get going. And then if you feel any led to pray for

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anybody, there's also room for that this morning.

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Wonderful.

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So first question for you. I'm curious, what was one of your

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biggest takeaways this week as even just a speaker of the

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conference?

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Biggest takeaway? That's such a good question. You know, I think

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for me personally, takeaway wise, I've been thinking about

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reformation. I think it's just caused me to think a lot more

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about reformation and about what I'm called to reform. You know,

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I think as a speaker and a teacher here in our environment,

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you're often trying to bring relevance to your entire

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audience. But there comes a time when you have to begin to think,

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well, what am I called to reform? And I think for me, just

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the recognition of my passion for the church. I'm really

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passionate about the church. And I know, you know, we're trying

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to encourage people outside the sphere of the church. And we're

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trying to, because I think a lot of people think only ministry

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can happen in the church. And yet, I actually feel like

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there's a reformation to happen for the bride. I hear a lot of

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people talking about how church as we know it is over. And it

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doesn't always sound positive. But I actually think that we're

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coming to a more unified and community based church

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environment. And I think that's where you see revival. Revival

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happens in family. And I think there in the, obviously the

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negative side of COVID was the disconnection of people. But I

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think the positive side of COVID is that we recognize we need

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and I think it's in true connection

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that we see a powerful outpouring of the Spirit.

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It's been profound, it's been amazing.

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It's obvious you have such a heart for the church,

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for the Bridegroom,

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and I was just even thinking of your message yesterday.

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I have had the privilege of being under your leadership.

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I was a student when Hayley was overseeing

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the second year of School of Ministry, so it's amazing.

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I don't even think you were speaking on this,

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but I just realized, I'm like, Hayley carries something

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that even when she's not speaking,

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there's this feeling in the room of it doesn't matter.

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All these big encounters

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and all these huge prophetic things

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and all these visions we might have,

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all those things are amazing,

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but it would be nothing without Him, right?

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you strip away all these things

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that can kind of feel like accessories,

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and it comes back and you just go,

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oh my gosh, this is what's important.

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This is what it's all about, right?

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Did anyone else feel that when Hayley was speaking yesterday?

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Can you give us a wave?

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I just felt so encountered by Holy Spirit

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and was just, just fell in love with Him.

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I was just like, it's so true, nothing matters.

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It's all about you, it's all about you.

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And so I am curious for all these prophetic reformers

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that are with us today,

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how would you encourage them to grow

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in greater intimacy with the Bridegroom?

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Yeah, that's a great question.

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I think, oh, I get really emotional

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because I think that you have a friend

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and His name is the Holy Spirit.

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And there's nothing that you have to figure out

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in the Christian life without Him.

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And the Holy Spirit is not a thing,

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He's not a feeling, He's a person.

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And He wants to meet with you,

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and He wants to reveal Jesus.

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He wants to glorify Jesus.

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He wants to reveal the thoughts of the Father to you.

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He wants to reveal the glorious inheritance

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that you have as a believer,

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which is incomparably great power for those who believe.

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Like He doesn't want you to feel like you're under,

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He wants you to feel like you're the victor

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that you are in Christ Jesus.

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He wants you to be comforted.

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He wants you to be assisted.

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He wants to be the very present help in time of need.

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I was actually thinking when you were talking

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about takeaway for the conference,

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but it's always quite, I always make it simple.

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I'm like, Reformation is simple.

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of having to take mountains

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and having to be effective and influential,

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and we can feel a lot of pressure.

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a little bit of pressure to push us.

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with the truth and the reality of the power of God

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that has been poured out for the church,

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you begin to realise that actually

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you don't have to be enough.

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That's one of the greatest things I ever learned

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was I don't have to be enough.

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I spent a whole lot of my life

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feeling like I wasn't enough.

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because God is enough in me.

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I'm the perfect vessel for the sufficiency

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of God to work through.

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how many people you impact is not what God's looking for.

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He's looking for faith and obedience.

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in eternity than here.

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I wanna make a mark on a generation.

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And that's not always seen, but it's felt.

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And so I think for me, that's what I wanna encourage

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you guys in is that, like, as you desire intimacy

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with the Lord, you have the Holy Spirit to draw you in.

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And I think intimacy happens best when there's no pressure.

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I don't know if you've ever, you know,

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I remember early days of dating when you feel

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a lot of pressure to know the outcome,

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like, are we gonna get married?

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trying to figure out if you're gonna get married.

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I'm like, there's nothing that kills passion like pressure.

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and I'm not enough, and I'm not good enough,

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and I don't have enough, our passion and our desire

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for intimacy doesn't rise.

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that as you pursue intimacy, you have to know

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that He's pursuing you.

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He's after you, and He's gonna make a way

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where there's no way.

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I'm just making myself available to you, God.

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but because you are present,

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and you are reachable, and you are here.

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Yes, that is so good.

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How about you pray that over our people?

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Thanks, God.

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I just wanna say something quickly before I pray.

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I was invited, I don't know if you know who Sid Roth is,

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but last minute I was invited to go and film with Sid Roth.

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And I asked the Lord, you know, am I ready for this?

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Is this just a vote of confidence from you?

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It was just a vote of confidence.

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I said, but God, if you want me to go, I just need to know.

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Haley, I wooed you.

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And this encounter that I had really was a product

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of the Lord wooing me.

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He was drawing me towards himself.

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He was drawing me into the freedom I needed.

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I wasn't even able to pursue the freedom I needed,

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but he was inviting me and he was relentless

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in his wooing of me.

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As I pray, thank you, Holy Spirit.

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As I pray right now, I can feel right now,

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I don't know if you can feel a shift.

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There's a new weight right now.

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We've just released the word in the right season

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and it's his truth and it's his heart right now

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that says, I'm wooing you.

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And so God, even now, thank you, Holy Spirit.

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Oh, we love you.

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We love your presence.

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We love your intimacy.

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We love communion with you, God.

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We know that you seek communion with us

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even more than we know how to seek it with you.

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You were the originator of the plan of connection.

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And so Holy Spirit, I pray God

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for the breaking off of striving.

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I tell shame, shame, you are no longer welcome.

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You are evicted from every mind and heart.

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Shame, you are a liar and a thief.

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And I invite the truth of who the heavenly host

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who our King of glory is, God,

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I invite the truth of the spirit of adoption,

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the spirit of adoption, the spirit of adoption

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by which we cry out, Daddy, God.

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my little girl just shouts, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy.

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that when Daddy comes home,

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we know that it's time for enjoyment.

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It's time to be tossed in the air

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and to throw and to giggle with such delight

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because our dad's gonna catch us.

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Our dad's got us.

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We're safe because Daddy's here.

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God, I pray for a wooing God of your spirit, God,

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for each person watching now and watching back

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that they would be wooed and drawn

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into this place of encounter

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because you are inviting them.

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We respond with a wholehearted yes.

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We respond with wide open arms and wide open hearts

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saying, King of glory, have your way, have your way in me.

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Make me a resting place of your beautiful spirit.

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God, if you call me a house,

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let my heart be a home for you.

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In Jesus' name, amen.

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I actually saw someone on the call.

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I'm gonna see if our tech host can help us find this person

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because I felt like I had a word for you.

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Yes, bottom right corner, Merlina.

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I think that's your name.

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I heard the Lord say, weeping willow.

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about weeping prophets yesterday.

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I was like, oh, Ben was talking about weeping prophets.

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into this place where you were going to experience

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the tenderness of his heart.

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That you are gonna begin to experience intimacy

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with the Lord like you've never experienced before.

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where places where you have felt like you've had to

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maybe try to figure him out.

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He's gonna bring you into a place

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where you just are able to experience the feeling.

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He's gonna just invite you into his presence

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and it's going to be tender and it's gonna be sweet.

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the weeping willow tree, how it just hangs.

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It just hangs there.

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There's a lightness, there's an ease to its leaves

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and it just allows the water to drip off of it.

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It runs down its leaves.

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I just feel like he's going to just run down you.

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There's just gonna be an ease to it

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when his presence comes near to you in this season.

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So I just bless you in this season.

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We're just so thankful for you.

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I just pray that you would just begin to experience

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the tenderness of the Lord.

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It's just, yes.

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means weeping willow.

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I just pray that the tenderness of the Lord,

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you just feel that as he just,

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his presence wraps around you in this season.

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Oh, we bless you.

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Can I jump on that real quick?

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I feel like for everyone right now,

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Corey Russell prayed for the gift of tears over our house

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and he said that tears cleanse the eyes.

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Tears actually cleanse our vision.

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It gives us clarity again.

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And I have the gift of tears.

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I know I do.

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One of my close friends,

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Stephanie Gretzinger, she does too.

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but I'm crying because I feel the heart of God.

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And you know, it's something so beautiful

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that we as prophets, we can be invited to his heart.

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You can stand in the council of God

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and prophesy from the council of God,

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but it's another thing to prophesy from his heart.

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And I just want to pray for encounters with the heart of God

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and for the gift of tears,

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that it wouldn't be, sometimes it is tears of grief,

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but those tears of grief lead you to a holy repentance

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for the bride to release her into the fullness.

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And sometimes it's tears of great intimacy and joy.

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So God, I pray, Lord, for the gift of tears

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to come on your people,

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that they would be moved by your heart, God,

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that they wouldn't be just standing

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in the council of the Lord.

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God, we love to stand in your council

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and we want to stand in your council,

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but God, would you grant us by your grace and your mercy,

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access to standing in the council of your heart, God,

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to standing in the center of your heart, Lord.

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We will not despise the tears and the vulnerability, Lord,

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but we will be people who stand as Jeremiah did, God,

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to bring recompense and restoration to a nation,

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to a people, God, who need to know your heart.

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So God, we thank you for that.

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Lord, we thank you for this word

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about the weeping willow, God.

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No longer will you weep in grief,

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but you will weep with the heart of God

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to bring shift and change,

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that your tears will bring a cleansing

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to the people of God, a cleansing of their heart.

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Holy Spirit, I pray for a fresh

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and holy encounter with your heart.

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I do.

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A holy fire to fill your people

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that will bring transformation, God,

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not just to our lives, God,

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but to our families and to our communities.

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In Jesus' name.

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Amen.

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Oh, that's good.

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Yay.

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Thank you, Hayley.

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Oh, I just see all, yes, amazing.

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Oh, thank you, Hayley, for joining us today.

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You guys, it's been a wonderful week.

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It's been amazing to just see your faces every morning

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and see you learning and receiving from our speakers

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and from School of the Prophets.

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I just pray that you would just be continually blessed today

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as we receive our impartation

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and as we go out from this school

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that you would just feel filled with faith

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for what the Lord is doing in your life.

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So we thank you guys and have a beautiful day.

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You're so wonderful.

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Have a wonderful day.

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you

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come on a good morning school of the prophets come on in find your seat

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welcome to all those joining us online wherever you're at around the world

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Brazil and then all of our online audience joining from all over the world

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as well we have had such an incredible week have you guys enjoyed your time

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here yeah I think there's a potential that you would go home and realize oh my

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goodness I actually received more than what I thought and and I I really

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believe there is going to be an exponential increase when you get back

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to the Metron where God wants to empower you in your gift and in your

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office I really believe it and and you're gonna find something happens to

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you that blows your your your mind your your your spirit out of the water okay

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how many are expecting that amen amen yeah we're gonna we're gonna let me just

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see I've got some announcements before we kick off and you see some stools up

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here we're gonna have Chris and Dan Oh lead a Q&A time to kind of wrap up our

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sessions together and then we've got some special things later on this

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morning and then this afternoon our impartation time as well but one of the

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big things we we do at conferences or schools here at Bethel Church and it's

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a it's a super high value to get your feedback we want your feedback actually

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it we we we actually covet your feedback because it helps us create a more

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excellent experience and resource you better as our prophetic community around

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the world and so what we're gonna do we have an event survey online right there

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so I want you to pull out your phones I think we'll have something also in the

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chat a link in the chat as well and if you could click on that right now we're

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gonna give you about five minutes and we want you to fill it out right now

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actually fill it out and we're gonna actually put that and leave that on the

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screen and we're gonna just take the next five or six minutes to do that and

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I may say it a couple of times as people come in the room because we want as much

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feedback as possible we love your feedback so go ahead and put your

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picture on that QR code and and for those of you online there should be a

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link coming up really soon and go ahead and start filling that out and we'll get

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started in just a moment yeah

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For those of you that are just coming in the room right now or just popping in online,

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we'd love for you to take out your phones and hit up that QR code right there, take

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a picture of that, and real quickly fill out our survey for School of the Prophets 2022.

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We really appreciate your feedback, so make sure as you're coming in the room that you're

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doing that.

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That's what everyone's doing.

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They're not just looking at me.

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It's not working?

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Is it working for some people?

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Try it again.

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The Wi-Fi?

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Oh, it won't load.

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Some people's are loading.

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Keep trying.

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And there's so many people on it too, that probably doesn't help our latency, so.

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Keep trying, please.

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Yeah, and if you're unable to do that, then just take a picture of it, save that for later,

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and maybe in an hour try that, you know, but we'd love, love your feedback.

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So as people are coming in as well, you see a QR code up on the screen.

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We are doing a quick survey of School of the Prophets 2022, and we'd love your feedback.

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We're just going to take a couple of more minutes for this survey.

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Again, the QR code is up on the screen.

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Take a picture of that.

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If you're not able to get on right now, then save that and do that in a little bit.

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We'd love, love, love your feedback.

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And I can see all of our prophetic friends online.

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They are doing their survey.

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I can see it.

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They're just so diligent.

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Welcome back to all of those that are coming in the room right now.

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We are just doing an event survey for School of the Prophets 2022.

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If you could pull out your phones, take a picture of that QR code, and fill out the

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survey for us real quick.

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We'd really appreciate that.

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We'll give you about 45.

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More seconds to fill that out.

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If you're just coming in the room,

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we're doing a survey of School of the Prophets 2022.

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There is a QR code on the screen.

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Go ahead and take a picture of that.

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And we'd love your feedback.

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Yeah, go ahead and do that survey right now.

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No, no service.

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Just keep that picture.

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Click on it later if you can't get on there.

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And we would really like to get your feedback.

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Thank you for all of you who are filling it out right now

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and were able to get on and get that feedback.

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Please try that multiple times throughout the day.

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We'd really like your feedback, like right now,

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when it's fresh in your mind.

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Because otherwise we go home and we forget a bunch.

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So I want us to get as much as we can as soon as we can.

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We really appreciate it.

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And if you're coming in the room right now,

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pull out your phones, take a picture of that QR code.

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And then we're going to also, we've

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got another announcements, announcements,

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another one announcement.

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Just an announcement.

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It's a good thing.

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It's School of the Prophets 2023.

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And we have our dates for School of the Prophets 2023.

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It's August 7th through the 11th.

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And we are so excited about this.

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And you can actually save your spot now if you want.

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And we're putting up, again, another QR code here.

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Or you can go to Bethel.ws-SOTP.

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And we are giving a special discount for you, $30 off.

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And this is kind of like super early bird special.

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This is actually the prophet special,

503
00:32:17.280 --> 00:32:20.160
because prophets show up early, right?

504
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:21.200
They know the future.

505
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:30.280
And it doesn't cost them as much when they plan ahead.

506
00:32:33.040 --> 00:32:33.880
Hey, come on.

507
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:38.400
This is like stewardship 101.

508
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:39.080
This is awesome.

509
00:32:39.080 --> 00:32:42.760
So check that out, School of the Prophets 2023,

510
00:32:42.760 --> 00:32:44.760
August 7th through the 11th.

511
00:32:44.760 --> 00:32:46.200
We're going to have a blast.

512
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:49.840
This year was an incredible year.

513
00:32:49.840 --> 00:32:53.080
We are such an incredible privilege to serve you all.

514
00:32:53.080 --> 00:32:54.680
And I want to start the morning.

515
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:57.720
We're going to have Dano and Chris come up in just a second.

516
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:04.000
But if you at all were serving in School of the Prophets,

517
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:07.200
and you weren't one of our instructors,

518
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:12.840
but you were a production crew, we have all our video crew.

519
00:33:12.840 --> 00:33:14.800
We have our ushers.

520
00:33:14.800 --> 00:33:17.440
We have all of our community group leaders.

521
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.400
We have our prophetic teams, our roaming teams.

522
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:21.920
We have so many people.

523
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.000
We have production backstage.

524
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:25.720
You won't ever see them.

525
00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:28.600
We have all of our administrative staff.

526
00:33:28.600 --> 00:33:33.400
And the ones who actually put this on, they are incredible.

527
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:37.400
They actually carry a level of peace and presence

528
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:40.200
that you felt throughout this time.

529
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:41.760
It was so smooth.

530
00:33:41.760 --> 00:33:46.520
Actually, our smoothest School of the Prophets

531
00:33:46.520 --> 00:33:47.480
I've ever had.

532
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:50.240
If you're any of those, even our intercessors,

533
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:51.560
they don't like to be highlighted.

534
00:33:51.560 --> 00:33:54.320
But we like to highlight them because they

535
00:33:54.320 --> 00:33:56.280
create an atmosphere for us.

536
00:33:56.280 --> 00:33:59.520
Will you stand to your feet if you were any of those at all?

537
00:33:59.520 --> 00:34:00.920
Some of them are standing.

538
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:02.680
Some of them are outside of the room.

539
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:04.560
Will you give it up for them?

540
00:34:04.560 --> 00:34:06.600
Will you celebrate them?

541
00:34:06.600 --> 00:34:09.679
All of our tech hosts, all the ones

542
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:14.080
that made it possible for all our online community,

543
00:34:14.080 --> 00:34:19.280
they have done work so long.

544
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:23.920
I mean, our admin teams, the ones who actually

545
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:28.159
make this happen, have started on 2023,

546
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.840
I mean, before even the event.

547
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:36.280
So they have been working for over a year on your behalf.

548
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:40.960
This is the type of investment that so many people

549
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.679
have in reformation.

550
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.400
And so many of these, you'll never see them on the stage,

551
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.040
but they're reforming through social media.

552
00:34:50.040 --> 00:34:53.239
They're reforming through getting all of this

553
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:54.560
to you online.

554
00:34:54.560 --> 00:34:57.800
They're reforming through their creative craft

555
00:34:57.800 --> 00:34:59.280
in incredible ways.

556
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.120
And we see.

557
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.080
Celebrate them.

558
00:35:01.080 --> 00:35:03.360
I mean, I cannot thank you.

559
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:06.200
We cannot thank you as a team enough

560
00:35:06.200 --> 00:35:07.980
for all of your investment.

561
00:35:07.980 --> 00:35:11.640
They create reformers in hospitality.

562
00:35:11.640 --> 00:35:14.400
I mean, when you walk in the room and someone loves on you

563
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.140
or someone says, no, you can't come in this door.

564
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:21.740
Yeah, well, I'm a prophet of four galaxies.

565
00:35:21.740 --> 00:35:22.960
Yeah, not this one.

566
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:23.800
Okay.

567
00:35:25.080 --> 00:35:27.420
Not yet, not yet.

568
00:35:27.420 --> 00:35:29.600
We don't know you that way yet.

569
00:35:29.600 --> 00:35:32.740
So thank you so much for coming.

570
00:35:32.740 --> 00:35:35.700
Thank you for investing your life

571
00:35:35.700 --> 00:35:39.520
into so many in the kingdom.

572
00:35:39.520 --> 00:35:42.780
This is such an important season for you to be released.

573
00:35:42.780 --> 00:35:44.140
Will you stand to your feet

574
00:35:44.140 --> 00:35:48.180
and welcome Dan O'McCollum and Chris Vallotton

575
00:35:48.180 --> 00:35:52.000
as they come and do our final Q&A.

576
00:35:52.040 --> 00:35:52.880
Thank you.

577
00:36:06.700 --> 00:36:07.620
Good morning.

578
00:36:10.220 --> 00:36:12.300
So you guys.

579
00:36:12.300 --> 00:36:14.540
We're gonna have a Q&A session this morning

580
00:36:15.700 --> 00:36:17.600
as kind of part of our final session.

581
00:36:17.600 --> 00:36:19.700
I feel like a stool pigeon.

582
00:36:19.700 --> 00:36:20.800
A stool pigeon.

583
00:36:22.940 --> 00:36:25.300
And one of the things I learned from Chris

584
00:36:25.300 --> 00:36:27.420
that we teach all of our trainers

585
00:36:27.420 --> 00:36:30.860
is we just do a little thing on what a question is

586
00:36:30.860 --> 00:36:32.620
and what a question isn't.

587
00:36:33.620 --> 00:36:35.420
And I really did learn it from Chris,

588
00:36:35.420 --> 00:36:37.300
but you know, honestly, we do this

589
00:36:37.300 --> 00:36:39.140
so that people don't embarrass themselves

590
00:36:39.140 --> 00:36:40.500
like when they get up there

591
00:36:42.180 --> 00:36:44.740
because kind of when you think this is your moment to shine,

592
00:36:44.740 --> 00:36:47.220
everybody else is kind of embarrassed for you.

593
00:36:47.220 --> 00:36:51.400
And so we'd like to protect you from that

594
00:36:51.420 --> 00:36:54.940
by saying a Q&A time

595
00:36:54.940 --> 00:36:58.680
is not a time for a long backstory, okay?

596
00:36:58.680 --> 00:37:00.300
As soon as you start a question

597
00:37:00.300 --> 00:37:01.940
with when I was six years old,

598
00:37:01.940 --> 00:37:04.220
we all lose hope right there, okay?

599
00:37:04.220 --> 00:37:06.820
Honestly, hope leaves the room, you know?

600
00:37:06.820 --> 00:37:10.620
So it doesn't have a long backstory, okay?

601
00:37:10.620 --> 00:37:12.760
Also, the question and answer time

602
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:17.420
isn't a time for opinions or sermons or things like that.

603
00:37:17.420 --> 00:37:20.620
Okay, it's also not an award ceremony of,

604
00:37:20.640 --> 00:37:22.400
I'd like to thank my mother and my father

605
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:24.560
and the people who are here.

606
00:37:24.560 --> 00:37:26.880
And when you start with an award ceremony,

607
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:29.520
once again, we're like, we just,

608
00:37:29.520 --> 00:37:30.760
we feel kind of sorry for you

609
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:33.760
that you don't know what's appropriate in this moment.

610
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:34.680
So.

611
00:37:34.680 --> 00:37:36.560
And interpreting dreams.

612
00:37:36.560 --> 00:37:39.640
Yes, yes, and we're not interpreting dreams

613
00:37:39.640 --> 00:37:41.880
or encounters at this time.

614
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:46.120
That takes more time and it's more of a personal nature.

615
00:37:46.120 --> 00:37:49.660
So it really is a question, okay?

616
00:37:51.120 --> 00:37:54.000
It's great if it starts as a question

617
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:55.840
and finishes as a question.

618
00:37:56.780 --> 00:37:59.760
That's what will really make you look intelligent

619
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:03.480
and sharp and amazing like you truly are.

620
00:38:05.240 --> 00:38:07.680
And it's great if it's a question about the conference,

621
00:38:07.680 --> 00:38:11.320
something you've learned, something on topic,

622
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:12.960
something that has to do with prophets

623
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:14.600
or prophecy or something.

624
00:38:14.600 --> 00:38:18.940
Yeah, or not also not solving your problem with your pastor.

625
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.720
So we, I mean, those are honest questions,

626
00:38:23.720 --> 00:38:26.240
but my pastor won't let me do da, da, da.

627
00:38:26.240 --> 00:38:31.240
It's like, it's really difficult to give you a real answer.

628
00:38:31.640 --> 00:38:33.880
And I've stopped doing it

629
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:36.820
because I don't actually know your circumstances

630
00:38:36.820 --> 00:38:39.020
and you're telling me your side of the story.

631
00:38:39.020 --> 00:38:41.040
And then I often meet your pastors

632
00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:44.200
who have a way different side of the story.

633
00:38:44.200 --> 00:38:49.040
And they said, and my guy said that you told him to do this.

634
00:38:49.060 --> 00:38:51.620
I'm like, yeah, I didn't realize

635
00:38:51.620 --> 00:38:53.260
that that wasn't the whole story.

636
00:38:53.260 --> 00:38:55.220
So we're not gonna give you advice

637
00:38:55.220 --> 00:38:59.360
about what to do with your leadership or whatever.

638
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.180
For obvious reasons, we don't actually know the problem.

639
00:39:02.180 --> 00:39:06.340
So we're gonna receive questions live in the room today.

640
00:39:06.340 --> 00:39:10.460
Okay, and also Haley's gonna be checking the online

641
00:39:10.460 --> 00:39:12.820
and she's gonna be bringing in questions

642
00:39:12.820 --> 00:39:15.060
from our online community as well,

643
00:39:15.060 --> 00:39:16.380
which we love you guys.

644
00:39:17.040 --> 00:39:19.200
And we're, thank you for your faithfulness

645
00:39:19.200 --> 00:39:21.060
in time zones all around the world.

646
00:39:21.060 --> 00:39:23.240
I know some of you getting up at two in the morning

647
00:39:23.240 --> 00:39:25.680
to be part of this year's School of the Prophets

648
00:39:25.680 --> 00:39:27.280
and we just bless you guys.

649
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:29.480
Okay, we're ready.

650
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:31.900
So we're gonna have a line on either side.

651
00:39:31.900 --> 00:39:36.360
You can come forward and present your question

652
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:40.520
to the facilitator there on either side.

653
00:39:40.520 --> 00:39:41.960
And we'll get to as many as we can.

654
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:44.000
We'll try to do short answers.

655
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:48.480
Yeah, we'll try to do short answers.

656
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:54.560
Does that make sense?

657
00:39:54.560 --> 00:39:58.000
Okay, do you ever have moments or events

658
00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:59.880
or situations where you?

659
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.720
Is he a person who's getting so wrapped up in listening to Holy Spirit that they forget to get

660
00:40:04.720 --> 00:40:19.920
up and go to work? Just do the work. Yeah? It's not okay in our culture to be irresponsible in

661
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:29.920
the name of Holy Spirit. So my question is for Chris. You always say like I have an edumacation

662
00:40:30.240 --> 00:40:37.760
and you have such a profound revelation of the Bible and God and so was it easy for you to

663
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:42.160
read the Bible and understand it when you first started your God journey?

664
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:51.840
I've always had an incredible hunger for the Word. When I got saved I read on the third grade level

665
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:56.000
and we only had King James Bible. We had the Message Bible. I think I said this but

666
00:40:56.080 --> 00:41:01.200
my mentor said Message Bible is not a real Bible which meant I had to learn to read,

667
00:41:01.200 --> 00:41:08.320
reading the King James Version. But something happened when I got saved and I had never read

668
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:14.560
a book in my life before I was saved. And I was living with my roommate who I grew up with and

669
00:41:14.560 --> 00:41:20.880
who wasn't saved and I didn't want him to know how crazy I was. So we had a closet and I would

670
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:25.520
go in the closet and turn the light on and I would read the Bible for two or three hours a

671
00:41:25.520 --> 00:41:30.480
night. I'd fall asleep reading the Bible in there. And it probably, you know, like an hour would be

672
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:36.160
a chapter because that's how. And there was all kinds of words in there I didn't know. Like I

673
00:41:36.160 --> 00:41:43.840
wouldn't even know what the word sanctification was if I could even sound it out. So but I felt

674
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:49.440
Holy Spirit was really tutoring me and teaching me. And then I had the privilege in my fourth year

675
00:41:49.520 --> 00:41:56.800
of knowing the Lord of meeting Bill. Who in my mind, obviously I think Bill's a great Bible

676
00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:01.760
teacher in all of the things that you would think. But he has a spirit of revelation on him.

677
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:07.440
And the interesting thing about Bill is two things. The way he approaches the Bible and the

678
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:13.120
way he reads the Bible. And most of us approach the Bible to validate what we already believe.

679
00:42:14.080 --> 00:42:20.800
But Bill doesn't do that, never has done that. And so through he, through osmosis, like watching

680
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:27.760
the way that he approaches the Bible, like in the fourth or fifth year of my walk with God,

681
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:34.960
I just naturally started approaching the Bible like that. And then watching the way that he

682
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:41.120
interacts with the Bible, I like there wasn't a day I go, oh, that's the way you're supposed to

683
00:42:41.200 --> 00:42:47.680
do it. But I noticed over time, looking back, that I shifted the way that I actually read

684
00:42:47.680 --> 00:42:55.840
and received. And so I think that there is a spirit of revelation on our movement. That's

685
00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:02.720
that also is on me. I would say that with without any like, arrogance, like I didn't do it to me.

686
00:43:03.600 --> 00:43:08.640
And you know what I'm saying? It really is something that the Lord did in my life.

687
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:15.600
And so I would say that, yeah. And there are people who study better, for sure. You know,

688
00:43:15.600 --> 00:43:20.800
I'm not, I'm like, I read all the time, but I'm not the greatest studier. But I think that our

689
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:26.640
approach to the word opens up revelation and doors. I'm sorry, I interrupted you.

690
00:43:26.640 --> 00:43:32.560
No, no, that was so good. One of the things I love about Chris too, is how he values the teachers in

691
00:43:32.560 --> 00:43:40.400
the house. And there's a lot of prophetic people that misuse the word. And we have teachers around

692
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:46.560
you who you have relationship with, they can call you on it and bring you into a more orthodox

693
00:43:46.560 --> 00:43:52.480
expression of the word or a proper expression of the word. But not only that, if you're going to

694
00:43:53.280 --> 00:44:00.000
spiritualize a text in a way and make something symbolic or metaphoric that isn't actually that

695
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:04.480
way in the Bible, you can at least acknowledge that you're doing it. Like, hey, today I'm going

696
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:10.240
to use this passage in a way it wasn't really intended to make a point that is in the word of

697
00:44:10.240 --> 00:44:17.360
God kind of thing, you know? And I think we could really help people come into prophetic community

698
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:25.280
by how we partner with teachers and how we rightly steward the word. And you do that so well.

699
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:32.960
Yeah, we've been privileged in our movement and at Bethel to have people like Dan Fairley,

700
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:39.200
which often we have Dan teach in this conference, who is a five-fold teacher and views the word

701
00:44:39.200 --> 00:44:45.120
very differently. And then, you know, often, I think it's actually often, I think it's only twice

702
00:44:45.120 --> 00:44:50.240
in the book of Acts, it says, and they sent them prophets and teachers. But it's there enough to

703
00:44:50.240 --> 00:44:58.960
realize that prophets and teachers should be friends and partners and allies and not enemies.

704
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.440
Yeah, I think you're next.

705
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:06.600
Yeah, so in discussing the apostolic structure

706
00:45:06.600 --> 00:45:08.320
that you guys had talked about

707
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:11.380
where believers can disagree,

708
00:45:11.380 --> 00:45:16.380
how should we as believers deal with fellow believers

709
00:45:19.040 --> 00:45:23.640
or even church leaders that are LGBT affirming

710
00:45:23.640 --> 00:45:28.520
as far as partnership or leadership in the church structure?

711
00:45:28.560 --> 00:45:29.560
Well, let me say this,

712
00:45:29.560 --> 00:45:33.240
that homosexuality is clearly sin in the Bible,

713
00:45:33.240 --> 00:45:38.240
just as adultery, just as lying, just as any other sin,

714
00:45:39.200 --> 00:45:40.200
but it is sin.

715
00:45:40.200 --> 00:45:41.600
And the difference between,

716
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.320
there's not a movement of people who are saying

717
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:51.360
lying is normal and I'm a liar and I'm a...

718
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:54.860
So what makes the LGBTQ different

719
00:45:54.860 --> 00:45:57.320
is that they're actually trying to normalize sin.

720
00:45:58.520 --> 00:46:03.520
And so it's not loving.

721
00:46:04.940 --> 00:46:07.220
Okay, so let me say this,

722
00:46:07.220 --> 00:46:09.000
the way that you get saved,

723
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:12.560
people always say, well, sinners need mercy.

724
00:46:12.560 --> 00:46:13.640
That's true.

725
00:46:13.640 --> 00:46:16.800
Mercy means you don't get what you deserve.

726
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:19.000
But in order for you not to get what you deserve,

727
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.840
you have to understand that you deserve punishment.

728
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:24.880
If I'm saying my lifestyle is normal

729
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.360
and I'm not doing anything wrong, I can't receive mercy.

730
00:46:29.200 --> 00:46:30.440
So mercy means I didn't get what I deserve.

731
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:32.960
Grace means I got what I didn't deserve,

732
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:35.160
which means I deserve punishment,

733
00:46:35.160 --> 00:46:39.120
but instead I got grace, I got favor,

734
00:46:39.120 --> 00:46:43.880
I got healthy when I should have been sick sort of thing.

735
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:48.200
So the challenge that we have is that when we normalize sin,

736
00:46:48.200 --> 00:46:51.600
we take away the ability to receive mercy

737
00:46:51.600 --> 00:46:52.600
and then get grace.

738
00:46:52.600 --> 00:46:53.620
And you've learned this week

739
00:46:53.620 --> 00:46:55.680
that grace is the operational power of God.

740
00:46:55.680 --> 00:46:59.240
It gives me the power to change and transform.

741
00:46:59.240 --> 00:47:03.360
When a Christian says, so that's the world, right?

742
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:06.360
But when a Christian says, I'm a Christian

743
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:11.360
who actually cannot change my identity, my very DNA,

744
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.080
Mike, I'm sorry, that's actually not true

745
00:47:17.080 --> 00:47:19.240
because when you received Jesus Christ,

746
00:47:19.240 --> 00:47:22.800
you became a new creation and all things passed away.

747
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.140
So listen, I'm not mad at anybody,

748
00:47:25.580 --> 00:47:27.380
but I'm not going to create a culture

749
00:47:27.380 --> 00:47:29.340
where people can't actually get well.

750
00:47:30.820 --> 00:47:33.580
And that's just the truth.

751
00:47:33.580 --> 00:47:36.180
And I don't wanna uncover my own family,

752
00:47:36.180 --> 00:47:40.380
but I have three people in my family very close to me

753
00:47:40.380 --> 00:47:45.380
who are identifying that way and they are very welcome.

754
00:47:46.420 --> 00:47:48.260
I wanna be very careful,

755
00:47:48.260 --> 00:47:52.420
but I have a weekly relationship with all of them,

756
00:47:52.420 --> 00:47:54.540
love them, we don't talk about it

757
00:47:54.900 --> 00:47:55.740
because they know my view,

758
00:47:55.740 --> 00:47:59.460
but when they're, and I know they feel loved by me,

759
00:47:59.460 --> 00:48:04.340
but they very much know that this is the truth.

760
00:48:04.340 --> 00:48:08.940
And in my mind, there's no way they're not gonna come out.

761
00:48:08.940 --> 00:48:11.340
They will, they're young and they'll come out

762
00:48:11.340 --> 00:48:12.260
and I love them,

763
00:48:12.260 --> 00:48:16.740
but I'm not gonna change what I believe to love someone

764
00:48:16.740 --> 00:48:19.260
because see, and this is part of this,

765
00:48:19.260 --> 00:48:20.820
I'm sorry, this is a long answer.

766
00:48:20.820 --> 00:48:24.740
In denominationalism, we gather because we agree.

767
00:48:24.740 --> 00:48:26.940
And here's the part I didn't share that night.

768
00:48:26.940 --> 00:48:31.180
If I'm a leader and I can't get you to agree with me,

769
00:48:31.180 --> 00:48:33.220
then I end up having to agree with you,

770
00:48:33.220 --> 00:48:37.500
which is why we are ordaining homosexuals

771
00:48:37.500 --> 00:48:38.940
because I can't get you to change,

772
00:48:38.940 --> 00:48:41.300
so I'll change so you don't have to leave.

773
00:48:41.300 --> 00:48:42.540
And I'm sorry, that's just not,

774
00:48:42.540 --> 00:48:45.180
and people like, well, Jesus loves sinners.

775
00:48:45.180 --> 00:48:48.440
He did, but he didn't have any problem telling people

776
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:51.440
like the woman caught in adultery,

777
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:54.440
he says to her, go your way and sin no more.

778
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:57.200
Don't ever sin again, he just told her.

779
00:48:57.200 --> 00:48:59.320
And he didn't call that condemning.

780
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:01.640
He says, neither do I condemn you.

781
00:49:01.640 --> 00:49:04.040
Go your way and don't ever sin again.

782
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:07.640
He didn't have any problem, people, it's just the Pharisees.

783
00:49:07.640 --> 00:49:10.860
No, he had a pretty strong talk with all of his disciples.

784
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:15.880
So Jesus didn't have any problem loving people

785
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:19.600
while he's telling them the brutal truth at times

786
00:49:19.600 --> 00:49:22.280
in a way that wouldn't even be politically correct

787
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.080
for most churches.

788
00:49:24.080 --> 00:49:29.080
So I don't have any problem creating a culture of truth

789
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:32.820
in the bedrock of love and mercy.

790
00:49:33.680 --> 00:49:37.800
But I'm not gonna give away truth, so you can feel love.

791
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:41.080
That was so good, I was invited into a church in Singapore

792
00:49:41.080 --> 00:49:45.080
and when I got there, I found out they had a strong ministry

793
00:49:45.080 --> 00:49:48.260
among homosexual community and it made me nervous

794
00:49:48.260 --> 00:49:51.600
because I believe everything you just said.

795
00:49:51.600 --> 00:49:53.840
And I sat down with the leader and he explained something

796
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:55.320
to me that really helped me.

797
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:58.280
He said, within that community, there are militants,

798
00:49:58.280 --> 00:49:59.200
there are moderates.

799
00:49:59.200 --> 00:50:00.040
Militants are.

800
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.640
having an agenda, moderates just kinda wanna be left alone.

801
00:50:03.640 --> 00:50:06.480
And he said, then there's strugglers and there's overcomers.

802
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:07.720
And he said, let me clarify.

803
00:50:07.720 --> 00:50:11.680
We work with strugglers who realize that there's a problem

804
00:50:11.680 --> 00:50:13.280
and they're working through the problem

805
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:16.600
and overcomers, people that have come out of that lifestyle

806
00:50:16.600 --> 00:50:20.760
and can present what a victorious, you know,

807
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.800
what a victorious experience in this looks like.

808
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:26.400
And you know, that really set my heart at peace.

809
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:30.600
But I think a lot of times we'll take somebody's behavior

810
00:50:30.600 --> 00:50:34.120
and categorize everyone in the same square.

811
00:50:34.120 --> 00:50:36.960
And that really helped me, so.

812
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:38.640
We have a ministry called Changed.

813
00:50:38.640 --> 00:50:42.600
Here it was by two previous gay people.

814
00:50:42.600 --> 00:50:45.960
And one of them is named Elizabeth Wohning.

815
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:49.360
And she was previously a Presbyterian

816
00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:50.720
who was writing the white paper

817
00:50:50.720 --> 00:50:52.920
for why homosexuality was okay.

818
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.120
She was a Presbyterian minister

819
00:50:55.120 --> 00:50:57.920
and they had tasked her with writing the white paper

820
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:00.360
on why homosexuality was not sin

821
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.800
and why they could be ordained as homosexuals.

822
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.360
She got that white paper about a half done

823
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.000
and had an encounter with the Lord.

824
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.240
And the Lord said, you're better than that.

825
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:13.160
And through an encounter, she'd had years of counseling

826
00:51:13.160 --> 00:51:15.680
and through an encounter, she got completely free.

827
00:51:15.680 --> 00:51:17.320
And that's her story.

828
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:19.480
So it's beautiful.

829
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:24.320
Just wondering if you can talk about tiredness

830
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:26.840
and how you deal with that in prophetic ministry,

831
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:29.760
walking out tiredness

832
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:33.280
and dealing with spiritual and physical tiredness.

833
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:34.120
Yeah.

834
00:51:35.120 --> 00:51:37.960
I'd speak as somebody who's new to the prophetic,

835
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:41.880
but supporting somebody who's way further than me.

836
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:44.840
And I wonder how you would answer that

837
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.480
30 years ago when you were starting out,

838
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:50.200
20 years ago maybe, and how you handle it now

839
00:51:50.200 --> 00:51:53.520
because we're there and not here.

840
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:55.640
This is also your land.

841
00:51:55.640 --> 00:51:59.000
Yeah, I just, well, 14 years ago,

842
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:02.520
I had a nervous breakdown, my second one,

843
00:52:02.520 --> 00:52:05.960
and ended up on the couch for six months,

844
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:08.600
like couldn't get off the couch for six months.

845
00:52:08.600 --> 00:52:11.560
And at the end of that,

846
00:52:11.560 --> 00:52:16.400
six months, and at the end of five and a half months

847
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:17.680
of being so depressed,

848
00:52:17.680 --> 00:52:19.720
I didn't really want to live anymore.

849
00:52:19.720 --> 00:52:21.040
The Lord talked to me for,

850
00:52:21.040 --> 00:52:23.240
I didn't hear from the Lord in five months,

851
00:52:23.240 --> 00:52:27.640
which for a prophetic guy is pretty part of the stress.

852
00:52:27.640 --> 00:52:31.320
And the Lord said to me that in the fifth month,

853
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:33.000
you are not the savior of the world.

854
00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:34.680
It's all he said to me.

855
00:52:34.680 --> 00:52:36.760
I was on the couch and he said to me,

856
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:39.080
you are not the savior of the world.

857
00:52:39.080 --> 00:52:40.960
And then two days later, he came to me again and said,

858
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:42.640
there's always enough time and energy

859
00:52:42.640 --> 00:52:44.080
for the people I send to you.

860
00:52:45.160 --> 00:52:46.920
Your job is to know who I sent.

861
00:52:48.240 --> 00:52:49.080
And then he told me,

862
00:52:49.080 --> 00:52:51.560
as long as you're working for the people instead of for me,

863
00:52:51.560 --> 00:52:55.240
you're gonna continue to be on this couch year after year.

864
00:52:55.240 --> 00:52:57.920
And so it changed my, you know, my team all knows,

865
00:52:57.920 --> 00:52:59.400
it changed my approach.

866
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.800
I realized that I'm gonna go to bed every day.

867
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:03.980
And because I'm a public person,

868
00:53:05.040 --> 00:53:07.120
well, I'm probably one 10th of the people

869
00:53:07.120 --> 00:53:09.820
who are trying to get to me actually get to me.

870
00:53:09.820 --> 00:53:11.700
That means 90% of the people

871
00:53:11.700 --> 00:53:14.140
that have an expectation for me every day

872
00:53:14.140 --> 00:53:16.180
don't get their expectation met.

873
00:53:16.180 --> 00:53:19.740
And if I spend my life thinking about who I disappointed,

874
00:53:19.740 --> 00:53:22.020
I'll be back on that couch again.

875
00:53:22.020 --> 00:53:23.340
So I have to be, you know,

876
00:53:23.340 --> 00:53:25.820
and I realized that if you're not a public person,

877
00:53:25.820 --> 00:53:28.020
you know, that's reduced for you

878
00:53:28.020 --> 00:53:30.260
because it was for me when I was in business.

879
00:53:30.260 --> 00:53:34.700
But I also realized that there's always enough time

880
00:53:34.700 --> 00:53:37.020
and energy for everybody, everything

881
00:53:37.020 --> 00:53:39.660
and everybody the Lord gives me to take care of.

882
00:53:40.500 --> 00:53:41.500
So I have to stay connected to him.

883
00:53:41.500 --> 00:53:43.860
And then I also have to in practically,

884
00:53:43.860 --> 00:53:46.840
I have warning lights.

885
00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:48.420
And when those warning lights go off,

886
00:53:48.420 --> 00:53:50.600
I can't blow through those stop signs

887
00:53:50.600 --> 00:53:52.780
because I end up on the couch again.

888
00:53:52.780 --> 00:53:54.420
So, you know, and I physically,

889
00:53:54.420 --> 00:53:56.740
I have some physical warning signs

890
00:53:56.740 --> 00:54:01.100
and I have a couple of emotional warning signs.

891
00:54:01.100 --> 00:54:05.700
And when I start to feel those, you know, Kimberly,

892
00:54:05.700 --> 00:54:06.820
I don't know if Kimberly's in here,

893
00:54:06.820 --> 00:54:10.820
but I'll text Kimberly, there she is, my PA,

894
00:54:10.820 --> 00:54:14.440
and say, you gotta cancel my meetings tomorrow.

895
00:54:15.580 --> 00:54:17.180
Or I gotta get out of this meeting.

896
00:54:17.180 --> 00:54:22.180
And also I've always had PAs who care about my soul.

897
00:54:22.700 --> 00:54:26.380
Kimberly is my newest one and she's just wonderful.

898
00:54:26.380 --> 00:54:28.760
And I have a wonderful team that cares about me.

899
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:32.000
And she will look at my week and say,

900
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:33.820
or when we're planning, she'll say,

901
00:54:33.820 --> 00:54:35.900
that's gonna be too much for you.

902
00:54:35.980 --> 00:54:37.820
I don't feel good about that.

903
00:54:37.820 --> 00:54:39.860
And I'm like, oh, the Lord's given me people

904
00:54:39.860 --> 00:54:43.100
that actually shepherd me, shepherd my soul.

905
00:54:43.100 --> 00:54:48.100
And so sometimes we do it anyway.

906
00:54:48.980 --> 00:54:50.780
And usually she's right.

907
00:54:50.780 --> 00:54:52.780
And I'm like, I can't come in tomorrow.

908
00:54:52.780 --> 00:54:55.680
She's just like, oh, I don't want her to say I told you so.

909
00:54:57.060 --> 00:54:59.940
One more thing I do, and this sounds weird, but.

910
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:06.960
We have a really busy life and I have to take life day by day,

911
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:10.760
which means if you ask me on Monday what I'm doing Friday,

912
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:13.060
I earnestly don't know.

913
00:55:13.060 --> 00:55:15.640
And if you say, hey, in fact, people have come up to me,

914
00:55:15.640 --> 00:55:18.820
hey, you're coming to my city, I'm like, I am.

915
00:55:18.820 --> 00:55:20.860
Well, I knew we do a yearly planning,

916
00:55:20.860 --> 00:55:23.320
so I knew that I okayed doing that,

917
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:26.540
but I have no idea when it is and I don't wanna know.

918
00:55:26.540 --> 00:55:29.160
So Kimberly will tell me anything I need to know

919
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:31.700
for the week, like, hey, you're flying out Friday,

920
00:55:31.700 --> 00:55:33.940
so you might wanna think about that.

921
00:55:33.940 --> 00:55:36.160
And what I do is right before I go to bed at night,

922
00:55:36.160 --> 00:55:38.460
I look at my schedule for tomorrow

923
00:55:38.460 --> 00:55:39.700
and I get ready for tomorrow,

924
00:55:39.700 --> 00:55:42.160
but I don't look at it for the next day.

925
00:55:42.160 --> 00:55:44.840
And that helps me to live day by day,

926
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:47.720
so I'm not thinking about Friday

927
00:55:47.720 --> 00:55:49.640
when I'm only doing Tuesday

928
00:55:49.640 --> 00:55:52.840
because of the way that I'm personally wired.

929
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:56.340
But I have to have someone who is looking out for me,

930
00:55:56.340 --> 00:55:58.340
so my PAs have always been good at like,

931
00:55:58.360 --> 00:55:59.900
well, he's not thinking about Friday

932
00:55:59.900 --> 00:56:03.440
and today's Monday, he leaves on Thursday.

933
00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:04.660
And so she'll be like,

934
00:56:04.660 --> 00:56:07.700
hey, you wanna look at your calendar this week?

935
00:56:07.700 --> 00:56:09.340
And otherwise I couldn't do it

936
00:56:09.340 --> 00:56:12.240
because I obviously would feel irresponsible.

937
00:56:12.240 --> 00:56:15.540
Anyway, that's a long answer to stay off the couch.

938
00:56:17.420 --> 00:56:19.200
That's great, I have a question from online.

939
00:56:19.200 --> 00:56:20.840
Jason online asked the question,

940
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:22.840
what words of wisdom do you have for pastors

941
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.800
looking to cultivate a healthy prophetic ministry

942
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:27.220
in the church that they serve

943
00:56:27.220 --> 00:56:30.260
that is in the early stages of understanding it?

944
00:56:30.260 --> 00:56:32.480
Yeah, I love that question.

945
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:35.220
And I wanna say,

946
00:56:35.220 --> 00:56:38.900
don't let one person dominate the prophetic dialogue.

947
00:56:38.900 --> 00:56:43.020
The most unhealthy churches I've seen around the world

948
00:56:43.020 --> 00:56:46.020
are where one person dominates the prophetic dialogue

949
00:56:46.020 --> 00:56:49.180
and they're trying to say what the word of the Lord is

950
00:56:49.180 --> 00:56:51.780
for everybody and everything.

951
00:56:51.780 --> 00:56:55.300
And equipping the saints is one of,

952
00:56:55.300 --> 00:56:57.900
what happens is people have a bad experience

953
00:56:57.900 --> 00:57:02.140
with a prophet, often self-declared,

954
00:57:02.140 --> 00:57:04.480
who is dominating the dialogue

955
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:07.220
and then they shy away from the prophetic

956
00:57:07.220 --> 00:57:09.780
when actually you wanna do the opposite,

957
00:57:09.780 --> 00:57:13.380
empower everybody to hear, everybody to see,

958
00:57:13.380 --> 00:57:17.900
and suddenly that person's power is brought into balance.

959
00:57:17.900 --> 00:57:19.620
Honestly, I'm not saying

960
00:57:19.620 --> 00:57:21.420
that that person shouldn't have a voice,

961
00:57:21.420 --> 00:57:24.620
I'm saying that person shouldn't be the voice.

962
00:57:24.660 --> 00:57:27.020
And that we can hear the Lord together.

963
00:57:27.020 --> 00:57:32.020
So instead of pulling back, equip.

964
00:57:34.140 --> 00:57:36.300
Instead of pulling back, you just start equipping,

965
00:57:36.300 --> 00:57:37.620
you start equipping.

966
00:57:37.620 --> 00:57:40.460
So I think that's one thing.

967
00:57:40.460 --> 00:57:42.860
We do go through a structure in the book,

968
00:57:42.860 --> 00:57:44.940
Prophetic Company, and again,

969
00:57:44.940 --> 00:57:48.100
I share my journey from a cessationist

970
00:57:48.100 --> 00:57:51.260
into a circus leader, you know what I mean?

971
00:57:51.260 --> 00:57:55.580
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

972
00:57:55.580 --> 00:57:58.740
But even some of what I believe is the wineskin,

973
00:57:58.740 --> 00:58:01.980
and just one more thing, Chris might have more on this,

974
00:58:01.980 --> 00:58:03.580
but just one more thing is,

975
00:58:03.580 --> 00:58:08.000
please make a place where the prophetic can be present

976
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:13.000
so that it's not popping out in inappropriate places.

977
00:58:13.380 --> 00:58:16.840
And so like for us, we would, once a month,

978
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:20.940
we would have prophetic teams available at the service

979
00:58:21.620 --> 00:58:24.260
and we'd focus on a specific target, like on Mother's Day,

980
00:58:24.260 --> 00:58:27.460
hey, every mother's gonna get a prophetic word.

981
00:58:27.460 --> 00:58:32.460
Hey, on April 15th, which is Tax Day in America,

982
00:58:32.540 --> 00:58:34.660
it's like, hey, we're gonna pray for every business owner,

983
00:58:34.660 --> 00:58:36.060
we're gonna prophesy over,

984
00:58:36.060 --> 00:58:40.100
and what would happen is people would actually invite people

985
00:58:40.100 --> 00:58:44.460
to church on those specific days to receive ministry.

986
00:58:44.460 --> 00:58:48.260
And so it built the church, it had a healthy outlet,

987
00:58:48.260 --> 00:58:50.020
we would do it after service,

988
00:58:50.020 --> 00:58:54.100
people would stay afterwards, sometimes for a couple hours,

989
00:58:54.100 --> 00:58:58.060
and we would minister to hundreds of people in that place,

990
00:58:58.060 --> 00:59:01.520
but it kind of prevented the like popcorn prophecy,

991
00:59:01.520 --> 00:59:04.300
kind of somebody jumping up in the service.

992
00:59:04.300 --> 00:59:05.500
And I don't mean that's bad,

993
00:59:05.500 --> 00:59:09.140
but I mean, when it's in an inappropriate way or time,

994
00:59:09.140 --> 00:59:12.180
sometimes that's because there's no healthy outlet

995
00:59:12.180 --> 00:59:15.060
within the church for prophetic ministry.

996
00:59:15.060 --> 00:59:18.220
And I think you can't just equip people

997
00:59:19.060 --> 00:59:20.740
and not apostle them in the way,

998
00:59:20.740 --> 00:59:22.540
I'm not saying create apostles,

999
00:59:22.540 --> 00:59:25.460
I'm saying send them, in other words,

1000
00:59:25.460 --> 00:59:29.740
give them some place to express the prophetic equipping

1001
00:59:29.740 --> 00:59:30.660
that you're giving them.

1002
00:59:30.660 --> 00:59:32.540
And there are a lot of ways to do that,

1003
00:59:32.540 --> 00:59:35.580
but that's a little bit about how we manage that.

1004
00:59:36.660 --> 00:59:39.500
So Chris, you shared your story

1005
00:59:39.500 --> 00:59:42.180
about prayer walking that small town,

1006
00:59:42.180 --> 00:59:46.480
and I was wondering if you have any insights

1007
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:51.480
on how to prepare a small group of people to prayer walk,

1008
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:57.360
not all of them are prophets,

1009
00:59:57.360 --> 00:59:59.760
some of them are evangelists or just.

1010
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.760
I've actually never done it since.

1011
01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:05.180
I'm not a good walker, and...

1012
01:00:09.460 --> 01:00:13.540
But, you know, there's a lot of great information

1013
01:00:16.020 --> 01:00:20.140
on prayer mapping, which includes prayer walking,

1014
01:00:20.140 --> 01:00:22.440
and I mean, honestly, didn't have a strategy

1015
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:24.520
like the Lord's told me to do this,

1016
01:00:24.520 --> 01:00:26.940
but what's powerful is, for me,

1017
01:00:26.940 --> 01:00:29.900
and that would, I think, relate to what you're saying is,

1018
01:00:29.900 --> 01:00:33.980
is that, you know, that non-strategic prayer walk

1019
01:00:35.900 --> 01:00:38.960
was very strategic in the heavenlies,

1020
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:41.960
and made a huge difference, in that,

1021
01:00:42.820 --> 01:00:44.580
for whatever reason, you know,

1022
01:00:44.580 --> 01:00:48.280
Josh was, you know, seven times around a city.

1023
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:51.580
For me, what I learned most wasn't the walk

1024
01:00:51.580 --> 01:00:54.400
so much as the obedience, and especially,

1025
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:56.960
and I had no idea what we were actually doing.

1026
01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:59.220
You know, I think if someone would've laid out a strategy,

1027
01:00:59.220 --> 01:01:00.580
you're gonna prayer walk this,

1028
01:01:00.580 --> 01:01:01.900
you're gonna bring down the principality,

1029
01:01:01.900 --> 01:01:03.400
and then you're gonna start a ministry,

1030
01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:06.080
but I didn't know any of that,

1031
01:01:06.080 --> 01:01:08.160
so I think that, you know,

1032
01:01:08.160 --> 01:01:09.540
I think what's really important,

1033
01:01:09.540 --> 01:01:11.300
more than walking and praying,

1034
01:01:11.300 --> 01:01:14.340
is to actually connect with the Holy Spirit.

1035
01:01:15.520 --> 01:01:17.420
You know, I think that, if we're not careful,

1036
01:01:17.420 --> 01:01:20.380
we become, you know, Methodists,

1037
01:01:20.380 --> 01:01:24.100
in that we copy someone else's method

1038
01:01:24.100 --> 01:01:27.280
that has nothing to do with connection,

1039
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:29.960
so if the Lord says, you know, walk,

1040
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:30.960
then I would walk.

1041
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:33.760
If the Lord says, lay in your bathtub and pray,

1042
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:34.640
I would do that.

1043
01:01:34.640 --> 01:01:37.320
You know, it's like, wherever you meet the Lord,

1044
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:42.320
and then if other people have the same, you know, sense,

1045
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:44.840
then I think agreement's really important,

1046
01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:48.240
if two of you agree on earth as to touching anything.

1047
01:01:48.240 --> 01:01:51.120
So, but I really shouldn't speak to the strategy of it,

1048
01:01:51.120 --> 01:01:52.880
because I really don't have one,

1049
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:54.440
and I've never did it since.

1050
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:57.360
It's kind of like, I can't speak about fasting either,

1051
01:01:57.360 --> 01:01:59.800
because I don't do that either.

1052
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:03.160
Well, I mean, I do eat quick,

1053
01:02:03.160 --> 01:02:04.920
but I don't know if that's fasting.

1054
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:09.600
I fast all night long, like I do the king,

1055
01:02:09.600 --> 01:02:12.660
the Darius, Darius fasted all night, remember this?

1056
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:15.680
He said, it said he did fasting all,

1057
01:02:15.680 --> 01:02:17.700
King Darius, he fasted all night,

1058
01:02:17.700 --> 01:02:19.840
and then he ran to the lion's den,

1059
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:21.200
and that's what I do, I fast all night,

1060
01:02:21.200 --> 01:02:22.800
and I break fast in the morning.

1061
01:02:24.600 --> 01:02:25.840
Darius.

1062
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:28.600
I told Lou Engle that, he didn't think it was very funny.

1063
01:02:31.200 --> 01:02:34.800
Can you guys just speak into maybe wisdom

1064
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:37.480
around giving a corporate prophetic word?

1065
01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:40.200
I think you touched on some of the negative aspects,

1066
01:02:40.200 --> 01:02:43.560
and maybe immature kind of expressions of those,

1067
01:02:43.560 --> 01:02:46.120
but when someone has a genuine,

1068
01:02:46.120 --> 01:02:48.160
or at least they feel like they have a genuine

1069
01:02:48.160 --> 01:02:52.880
corporate word for a body, an organization, a church,

1070
01:02:53.200 --> 01:02:57.360
what's a good kind of set of guidelines and guardrails?

1071
01:02:57.360 --> 01:02:58.800
I know Daniel's gonna speak into this,

1072
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:00.560
but let me just say this.

1073
01:03:00.560 --> 01:03:03.400
Like, you should stay inside your Metron.

1074
01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:07.520
So if you haven't had personal prophetic words,

1075
01:03:07.520 --> 01:03:10.240
if you haven't got a track record

1076
01:03:10.240 --> 01:03:14.360
of your personal prophetic words actually coming to pass,

1077
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:16.840
you shouldn't actually,

1078
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:19.840
I mean, you can have corporate words and pray into them.

1079
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:22.680
You can pray into them, like personally,

1080
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.040
but you shouldn't be giving corporate prophetic words

1081
01:03:26.040 --> 01:03:29.040
if you, first of all, if you're not seen

1082
01:03:29.040 --> 01:03:31.920
as somebody who has authority in that realm,

1083
01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:35.880
and secondly, if you haven't had a great track record

1084
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.640
because you haven't had enough experience.

1085
01:03:38.640 --> 01:03:40.800
So, I mean, this is the challenge.

1086
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:44.840
Like, everybody wants to be the star, including me.

1087
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:48.160
Like, stand up and give a word within 500 people,

1088
01:03:48.160 --> 01:03:51.960
and you know, and in our, we live in a culture

1089
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:54.520
that we are both very concerned about,

1090
01:03:54.520 --> 01:03:58.480
in that you can look like you have this great anointing

1091
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:02.680
because you're really good at marketing on social media,

1092
01:04:02.680 --> 01:04:05.520
and you have 500,000 people following you,

1093
01:04:05.520 --> 01:04:10.520
but the man behind the curtain is, you know, is Pee Wee Herman.

1094
01:04:11.160 --> 01:04:16.160
And, you know, we saw a lot in the last year

1095
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:19.080
where people are just crashing and burning.

1096
01:04:19.080 --> 01:04:22.120
And so, you know, we just want,

1097
01:04:22.120 --> 01:04:24.920
we're all learning and growing,

1098
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:27.120
so you don't have to be perfect.

1099
01:04:27.120 --> 01:04:29.640
There's no such thing as a perfect person

1100
01:04:29.640 --> 01:04:31.480
to give a corporate word,

1101
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:33.360
but you do have to be acknowledged

1102
01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:36.760
as having authority with that group of people.

1103
01:04:37.600 --> 01:04:42.600
How do you know when you've had success in your Metron?

1104
01:04:44.080 --> 01:04:45.120
Yeah.

1105
01:04:45.120 --> 01:04:47.840
When do you know, like genuinely,

1106
01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:51.080
that the Lord is maybe moving you outside of that?

1107
01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:54.200
You know, that I've, yeah.

1108
01:04:54.200 --> 01:04:56.320
When you've been faithful within your Metron,

1109
01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:58.120
you often are expanded.

1110
01:04:58.120 --> 01:05:00.400
Paul talks about this in 1 Corinthians.

1111
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.760
Corinthians 10, he says, I want to be faithful here

1112
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:08.040
in what God has given me so that the Lord will extend

1113
01:05:08.040 --> 01:05:09.960
to other places and other lands,

1114
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:12.720
but it's often by invitation.

1115
01:05:12.720 --> 01:05:16.600
Like as you're being faithful, you're invited into scenarios

1116
01:05:16.600 --> 01:05:19.520
and oftentimes when you're invited in,

1117
01:05:19.520 --> 01:05:22.360
they feel too big for you, you know?

1118
01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:26.440
Like, and I just want to say that you can receive

1119
01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:31.440
information about your nation that you're not supposed to,

1120
01:05:33.120 --> 01:05:36.640
like, it's not your responsibility to share that.

1121
01:05:36.640 --> 01:05:39.480
God's just letting you know what's going on.

1122
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:41.880
And so a lot of people feel like, well,

1123
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:45.160
why am I receiving information on this level

1124
01:05:45.160 --> 01:05:46.700
if I don't have this opportunity?

1125
01:05:46.700 --> 01:05:49.520
Because you're a friend of God and you live in that country

1126
01:05:49.520 --> 01:05:52.120
and he's just sharing things with you.

1127
01:05:52.120 --> 01:05:55.920
And so I think there's this wrong idea

1128
01:05:56.760 --> 01:06:00.840
that revelation always brings responsibility.

1129
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:01.680
And authority.

1130
01:06:01.680 --> 01:06:03.440
If I, yeah, and authority.

1131
01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:05.960
And it's like, oh, if I received it from the Lord,

1132
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:09.000
then I must share it, you know?

1133
01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:12.560
And that's not the definition of a friend.

1134
01:06:13.560 --> 01:06:16.800
A friend is not someone who shares with everybody else

1135
01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:18.200
everything you tell them.

1136
01:06:19.120 --> 01:06:21.800
And I just want to say that sometimes the Lord

1137
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:23.840
shares things with you in friendship

1138
01:06:25.220 --> 01:06:28.360
that is honestly just because you're friends with the Lord.

1139
01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:30.240
And then you go out and share them

1140
01:06:30.240 --> 01:06:32.520
and it actually undermines your friendship

1141
01:06:32.520 --> 01:06:35.640
rather than advance your authority.

1142
01:06:35.640 --> 01:06:36.480
So good.

1143
01:06:38.980 --> 01:06:43.440
On that as well, there's kind of protocols,

1144
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:45.660
at least within our community,

1145
01:06:45.660 --> 01:06:47.860
as you're building prophetic communities,

1146
01:06:47.860 --> 01:06:50.560
there should be on ramps to corporate words.

1147
01:06:50.560 --> 01:06:52.280
So what I'm saying is this,

1148
01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:57.280
if someone on my team comes to one of my sessions leader,

1149
01:06:57.320 --> 01:06:58.600
prophetic sessions leader,

1150
01:06:58.600 --> 01:07:00.720
and says, I feel like I have this word

1151
01:07:00.720 --> 01:07:02.260
that it might be appropriate,

1152
01:07:02.260 --> 01:07:05.880
then that session leader maybe comes to one of my leaders

1153
01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:08.320
and tells me, and they tell me,

1154
01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:10.120
and if I feel like it's appropriate,

1155
01:07:10.120 --> 01:07:13.560
then I may come to Chris or Bill with a word like that.

1156
01:07:13.560 --> 01:07:16.120
And then if they're vetting it and saying,

1157
01:07:16.120 --> 01:07:19.600
yeah, that feels like a now word right now,

1158
01:07:19.680 --> 01:07:22.040
then that works well.

1159
01:07:22.040 --> 01:07:23.360
Yeah.

1160
01:07:23.360 --> 01:07:24.440
I have another online question.

1161
01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:26.600
We have a couple of questions about mystics.

1162
01:07:26.600 --> 01:07:28.680
So I'm gonna kind of combine two.

1163
01:07:28.680 --> 01:07:31.440
One question was, could we explain what mystics are?

1164
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:32.960
And then also if you're,

1165
01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:35.000
do you kind of change your protocol

1166
01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:37.000
around kind of typical prophetic experiences

1167
01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:38.220
and then mystical experiences?

1168
01:07:38.220 --> 01:07:39.800
How do you kind of approach?

1169
01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:41.680
Do you approach those differently, the same?

1170
01:07:41.680 --> 01:07:43.240
Love to just hear your thoughts.

1171
01:07:43.240 --> 01:07:47.000
Yes, so the definition of mystics again

1172
01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:52.000
is people who are often having the spirit world

1173
01:07:53.720 --> 01:07:57.480
overlay the natural world on a high frequency.

1174
01:07:57.480 --> 01:07:59.960
Like that's like a lot of events.

1175
01:07:59.960 --> 01:08:01.480
This happened a lot to Ezekiel.

1176
01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:03.440
So we would classify him this way.

1177
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:05.720
Let's say, first of all, that mystical is not a,

1178
01:08:05.720 --> 01:08:07.840
mystic is not a biblical word.

1179
01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:11.760
Neither is it an office, neither is it an assignment.

1180
01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:16.760
It's just a placeholder to help us kind of have a category

1181
01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:21.840
for different protocols and different purposes.

1182
01:08:23.200 --> 01:08:24.960
Now, why do I say there's different protocols?

1183
01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:27.520
Because in 2 Corinthians 12, Paul said,

1184
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.960
I know a man who went up into the third heaven

1185
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:34.300
who saw things, get this, that it's not lawful

1186
01:08:34.300 --> 01:08:35.640
to talk about.

1187
01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:41.279
Both John the Revelator and Ezekiel saw things,

1188
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:43.160
began to write them down and the Lord said,

1189
01:08:43.160 --> 01:08:44.479
no, seal this up.

1190
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:46.479
This is for another time.

1191
01:08:47.479 --> 01:08:49.640
And I think there are different protocols

1192
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:51.040
for heavenly experiences.

1193
01:08:51.040 --> 01:08:54.520
And I believe this is being violated right now

1194
01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:57.120
on a large scale of people.

1195
01:08:57.120 --> 01:08:59.120
I hear people share thing and it's like,

1196
01:08:59.120 --> 01:09:00.800
I don't doubt that that happened,

1197
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.319
but do you have permission to share that?

1198
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:08.319
Like, and I also don't, I don't like hierarchy

1199
01:09:09.939 --> 01:09:12.240
within mystical experiences.

1200
01:09:12.240 --> 01:09:15.500
And I was trying to hit that a little bit last night

1201
01:09:15.540 --> 01:09:19.100
of listen, you know, Rob Spurr in Australia

1202
01:09:19.100 --> 01:09:21.779
is having a mystical experience to see the man

1203
01:09:21.779 --> 01:09:24.660
with the green vest and the man with the blue beret,

1204
01:09:24.660 --> 01:09:27.580
which is awesome, but it's no different

1205
01:09:27.580 --> 01:09:31.340
than George Washington Carver seeing a peanut

1206
01:09:31.340 --> 01:09:35.180
and getting revelation about what God is saying.

1207
01:09:35.180 --> 01:09:38.180
And I think the hierarchy that is developed

1208
01:09:38.180 --> 01:09:41.399
among mystical community where they're like,

1209
01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:42.760
well, if you knew what I see,

1210
01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:44.300
then like, you don't know what you're talking about.

1211
01:09:44.300 --> 01:09:47.580
I discount you because you don't see what I see.

1212
01:09:47.580 --> 01:09:50.979
And I'm like, well, yeah, if you don't see what we see,

1213
01:09:50.979 --> 01:09:52.460
you're never going to have an audience.

1214
01:09:52.460 --> 01:09:57.460
You know, like everybody sees, we just see different ways.

1215
01:09:57.820 --> 01:10:00.100
And so again.

1216
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:08.000
And what we're trying to do with people who have a high amount of those kind of experiences,

1217
01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:14.000
I said it before this week, but we first of all normalize, there needs to be a safe place where you can talk about it.

1218
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:18.000
And that's not on the mic usually on Sunday mornings, you know?

1219
01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:21.000
And then secondly, we contextualize.

1220
01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:26.000
We want to find scriptural root, historical root, scientific reasoning.

1221
01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:34.000
We want to have something that helps us have some truth behind our experience so that we know we're not kind of going into a deception realm.

1222
01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:37.000
And then weaponize, what is the purpose of this?

1223
01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:40.000
How does this actually benefit humanity?

1224
01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:45.000
Because I've said this before, but I'm not impressed with how often somebody goes to heaven.

1225
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:49.000
I'm impressed with those who can bring back a carryout portion.

1226
01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:53.000
Like, hey, if you're going to heaven so much, get some for the rest of us.

1227
01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:57.000
Bring it back and manifest heaven on earth.

1228
01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:00.000
Because our mandate is not how many times can you go up?

1229
01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:02.000
Our mandate is how much can you bring down?

1230
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:08.000
And so I think there are separate protocols for that community.

1231
01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:12.000
At the same time, I think they're a very unserved community.

1232
01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:16.000
And I think there are people that are very misunderstood.

1233
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:30.000
And some of the greatest miracles I've ever seen in my life have been through helping mystical people find balance through normalization, contextualization, and then weaponization of actually flowing in a purpose.

1234
01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:31.000
So good.

1235
01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:32.000
Yeah.

1236
01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:33.000
Cool.

1237
01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:34.000
Who's next?

1238
01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:35.000
Yeah.

1239
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:38.000
My question, I'll call it a technical question.

1240
01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:40.000
It's about the calling, gifting, anointing.

1241
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:43.000
Put your mic close because we don't have monitors up here.

1242
01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:48.000
It's about the calling, gifting, anointing that, Chris, I think you were talking about the other day.

1243
01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:56.000
And one example you brought up was Acts 16 when Paul rebuked the fortune teller for saying that he serves the most high God.

1244
01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:59.000
And he wasn't happy about that.

1245
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:05.000
And then you explained that she had the right words and she was saying the right thing, but she didn't have the right anointing.

1246
01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:08.000
So I guess we'll call that invalid.

1247
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:13.000
But it sounds like she's saying the things that the good guys would say.

1248
01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:21.000
And then I took that and I started to think about when Jesus was casting out demons and then he was called out saying, you're part of the demons, that's how you're casting them out.

1249
01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:26.000
And then he said, and this is where I'm hung up, is a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.

1250
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:35.000
So I feel like those words from Jesus are kind of creating a clash for me between what happened in Acts and what happened, what Jesus said.

1251
01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:37.000
So could you clear that up?

1252
01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:47.000
Well, yeah, I mean, I think that the enemy will tell you whatever you want to hear, providing he gets access to your soul.

1253
01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:54.000
And so, you know, Jesus talked about that they're sheep, they're wolves in sheep's clothing.

1254
01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:57.000
I think it was Paul who said they come as angels of light.

1255
01:12:57.000 --> 01:13:04.000
So, I mean, the devil doesn't come and say, I am the devil and you should murder someone.

1256
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:13.000
I mean, it can, it could get there, but he begins by saying things that would allow you to open the door and trust him.

1257
01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:19.000
And then as you trust him, then he gets control of your soul.

1258
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:28.000
So, and the point that I was making with Acts 16 girl is that she actually has a gift from hell, a heart from hell and an anointing from hell.

1259
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:37.000
She isn't anything from heaven there, where a person who was once a prophet and who's walked away gets a gift from heaven,

1260
01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:43.000
like he or she still gets to keep the gift from heaven, but they're anointing.

1261
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:53.000
But what happens when they leave the presence, not the presence of God, but when they leave following God is that they still have the gift, but it's anointed by the wrong kingdom.

1262
01:13:54.000 --> 01:14:01.000
And so, and then, and the question, the actual question maybe that you have is how do you determine what?

1263
01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:04.000
And that is the gift of distinguishing the spirits.

1264
01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:05.000
It's interesting.

1265
01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:15.000
It says that that the, the Acts 16 incident says, and she followed Paul, I think it's in Silas, Paul and Barnabas, whatever,

1266
01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:23.000
followed them for several days before Paul finally got, you know, annoyed and cast the demon out of her.

1267
01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:31.000
I propose that if Paul would have known on day one that that was a spirit of witchcraft, he probably would have cast it out that day.

1268
01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:42.000
But it probably took a while because she was saying the right things and probably attracting people who he wouldn't attract when he realized like, well, that has all the,

1269
01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:46.000
it looks like a sheep, but it's actually a wolf.

1270
01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:48.000
Does that make sense?

1271
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.000
Yeah.

1272
01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:51.000
Hi.

1273
01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:57.000
So for more, for prophetic people who are more naturally, this is the last question.

1274
01:14:57.000 --> 01:14:59.000
So you guys can go sit down.

1275
01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:00.000
Sorry about that.

1276
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.400
that we're running out of time, go ahead.

1277
01:15:02.400 --> 01:15:04.040
It's gotta be a good one now.

1278
01:15:04.040 --> 01:15:05.920
Yeah, no pressure, but.

1279
01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:07.160
No pressure.

1280
01:15:07.160 --> 01:15:11.880
So for prophetic people who may be more naturally inclined

1281
01:15:11.880 --> 01:15:15.840
toward spontaneous and mystical experiences,

1282
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:20.240
do you have any tips to share on becoming more consistent

1283
01:15:20.240 --> 01:15:22.340
and growing in spiritual disciplines

1284
01:15:22.340 --> 01:15:24.500
in our personal devotional lives?

1285
01:15:25.500 --> 01:15:26.780
It's okay.

1286
01:15:26.780 --> 01:15:30.420
Well, I mean, whether you're spontaneous

1287
01:15:30.420 --> 01:15:34.760
by personality and gift mix, or whether you're strategic,

1288
01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:38.140
and I don't know if those are incongruent with each other,

1289
01:15:38.140 --> 01:15:40.220
but let's just pretend they are for a minute,

1290
01:15:40.220 --> 01:15:41.860
or however you would say that,

1291
01:15:43.180 --> 01:15:48.180
you still need the discipline of consistency

1292
01:15:49.020 --> 01:15:50.580
in your life with Jesus.

1293
01:15:51.460 --> 01:15:54.420
You know, I may be spontaneous in the way

1294
01:15:54.420 --> 01:15:56.780
that I express my love to my wife,

1295
01:15:56.780 --> 01:15:59.820
but I still need to pick up my socks every morning,

1296
01:15:59.820 --> 01:16:02.860
come home, cut the lawn, and do the things

1297
01:16:02.860 --> 01:16:05.420
that build trust and connection,

1298
01:16:05.420 --> 01:16:10.320
even though they may not build intimacy and sex, you know?

1299
01:16:10.320 --> 01:16:14.720
It's like there's more to my marriage than intimacy.

1300
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:17.420
There's more to my marriage than romance.

1301
01:16:17.420 --> 01:16:21.380
And much of my marriage is based on serving one another

1302
01:16:21.380 --> 01:16:24.820
and loving each other, not in the bedroom.

1303
01:16:24.820 --> 01:16:26.580
And so it's the same with the Lord.

1304
01:16:26.580 --> 01:16:29.740
It's great when we have these ecstatic experiences,

1305
01:16:29.740 --> 01:16:32.420
and if you've lived long enough in the Lord,

1306
01:16:32.420 --> 01:16:37.420
we all have a few, and some have many more.

1307
01:16:37.500 --> 01:16:41.140
But I can't sustain my relationship with God

1308
01:16:41.140 --> 01:16:44.140
on the 25 amazing experiences I've had,

1309
01:16:44.140 --> 01:16:47.380
and I've had three or four, to be honest,

1310
01:16:48.340 --> 01:16:50.900
as I shared my experience in the bathtub.

1311
01:16:50.900 --> 01:16:55.300
Like, I've had one of those, but it was profound enough

1312
01:16:55.300 --> 01:16:59.660
that it shifted my history, as Peter had

1313
01:16:59.660 --> 01:17:03.060
when he had the sheet coming down, kill and eat.

1314
01:17:03.060 --> 01:17:04.620
I mean, that brought all the Gentiles in.

1315
01:17:04.620 --> 01:17:07.660
So he had one encounter that we know of

1316
01:17:07.660 --> 01:17:10.660
that shifted the course of Gentile history.

1317
01:17:10.660 --> 01:17:13.140
We don't know that he had 50 of those,

1318
01:17:13.140 --> 01:17:15.900
but he had an ongoing relationship with the Lord.

1319
01:17:15.900 --> 01:17:20.900
So for me, I think I've shared this,

1320
01:17:21.780 --> 01:17:24.340
but I read my Bible every morning when I get up,

1321
01:17:24.340 --> 01:17:25.180
nearly every morning.

1322
01:17:25.180 --> 01:17:28.060
I probably miss it 10 times a year or 15,

1323
01:17:28.060 --> 01:17:30.340
but every morning, and I read it every night.

1324
01:17:30.340 --> 01:17:32.020
And mostly nothing's happening.

1325
01:17:32.020 --> 01:17:35.180
I'm reading my Bible, and it's typically a chapter.

1326
01:17:35.180 --> 01:17:38.100
Sometimes I get into it, and it's three or four or five.

1327
01:17:38.100 --> 01:17:39.460
I wouldn't have had three or four or five

1328
01:17:39.460 --> 01:17:41.060
if I didn't open it at all.

1329
01:17:41.060 --> 01:17:43.740
So, but I don't feel bad when it's a chapter.

1330
01:17:43.740 --> 01:17:46.940
I don't feel bad when it's 15 minutes.

1331
01:17:46.940 --> 01:17:48.580
Then I'm like, well, you're leading a movement.

1332
01:17:48.580 --> 01:17:50.660
You should have had three hours this morning.

1333
01:17:50.660 --> 01:17:52.100
Did you know about E.M. Bounds?

1334
01:17:52.100 --> 01:17:55.260
Like, yeah, I'm not E.M., and he's not me, you know?

1335
01:17:55.260 --> 01:17:59.900
And what I do, what Bill taught me years ago

1336
01:17:59.900 --> 01:18:02.580
is to practice the presence of the Lord.

1337
01:18:02.580 --> 01:18:06.700
And so I'd say my claim to personal fame with the Lord

1338
01:18:06.700 --> 01:18:09.980
is I'm always, like when you ask a question,

1339
01:18:09.980 --> 01:18:12.060
I'm naturally going, okay, Lord,

1340
01:18:12.060 --> 01:18:13.740
what do you want to say about this?

1341
01:18:13.740 --> 01:18:16.060
And I'm doing that, like, I'm just doing it

1342
01:18:16.060 --> 01:18:20.140
by kind of like muscle memory all day long.

1343
01:18:20.140 --> 01:18:23.180
So when we're making decisions about things,

1344
01:18:23.180 --> 01:18:26.660
I mean, you know, I really don't have a lot of education,

1345
01:18:26.660 --> 01:18:28.020
but I have lots of experience.

1346
01:18:28.020 --> 01:18:29.900
But I have a lot of experience going,

1347
01:18:29.900 --> 01:18:31.580
hmm, I have no idea what to do about that.

1348
01:18:31.580 --> 01:18:33.660
Well, if someone's articulating the problem,

1349
01:18:33.660 --> 01:18:35.380
and I have lots of experience with,

1350
01:18:35.380 --> 01:18:37.220
well, you should do this, this, and this.

1351
01:18:37.220 --> 01:18:39.620
And I don't always know, like, well, the Lord told me,

1352
01:18:39.620 --> 01:18:42.220
I could say that one in 50 times,

1353
01:18:42.220 --> 01:18:45.980
but this thought came to me while we're articulating

1354
01:18:45.980 --> 01:18:49.060
this big problem that I don't have any idea what to do.

1355
01:18:49.060 --> 01:18:51.100
And it was like that a lot, right?

1356
01:18:51.100 --> 01:18:53.420
With, we've been through a virus,

1357
01:18:53.420 --> 01:18:54.780
we've never been in my life.

1358
01:18:54.780 --> 01:18:58.260
I've never navigated a virus before, a pandemic.

1359
01:18:58.260 --> 01:19:00.620
You know, I've never navigated Black Lives Matter

1360
01:19:00.620 --> 01:19:02.060
and leading a movement.

1361
01:19:02.060 --> 01:19:04.020
I've never navigated, you know,

1362
01:19:04.020 --> 01:19:08.020
my senior pastor's wife dying in the middle of a movement.

1363
01:19:08.020 --> 01:19:09.220
You know, I mean, these are all like,

1364
01:19:09.220 --> 01:19:11.100
I can't pull on my experience.

1365
01:19:11.100 --> 01:19:13.180
I've never had these experiences before.

1366
01:19:13.180 --> 01:19:15.820
So we have to really tap into, okay, Lord,

1367
01:19:15.820 --> 01:19:19.180
I have, I mean, I wake most mornings for two years.

1368
01:19:19.180 --> 01:19:21.100
Lord, I have no idea what to do today.

1369
01:19:21.100 --> 01:19:23.300
I mean, like, I really don't know what to do.

1370
01:19:23.300 --> 01:19:25.820
I don't have experience in this.

1371
01:19:25.820 --> 01:19:29.260
And I know, I can see it could go this way or that way.

1372
01:19:29.260 --> 01:19:32.540
And all of these people are mad if I don't go this way.

1373
01:19:32.540 --> 01:19:35.540
And all these people are mad if I don't go that way.

1374
01:19:35.540 --> 01:19:38.740
And I actually don't know what the right way is.

1375
01:19:38.740 --> 01:19:39.660
Please guide us.

1376
01:19:39.660 --> 01:19:42.780
And so, you know, we got a lot of that

1377
01:19:42.780 --> 01:19:44.220
and that's just coming,

1378
01:19:44.220 --> 01:19:47.860
but I think it's flowing on the lines of discipline

1379
01:19:47.860 --> 01:19:51.860
in that I have the 15 minutes and sometimes it's two hours,

1380
01:19:51.860 --> 01:19:54.900
but I have the 15 minutes every morning that we make,

1381
01:19:54.900 --> 01:19:58.180
you know, I have my meeting with the Lord every morning

1382
01:19:58.180 --> 01:20:00.340
and I have it every night when I go to bed.

1383
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:09.000
And so there's a placeholder there for that and it seems to work for me.

1384
01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:15.000
And the only thing I would say is, I think I'm speaking to the undisciplinedness

1385
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:19.600
of some of the people we've shepherded, in that they have mystical experiences

1386
01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:24.000
but they don't really have great character and they have no consistency.

1387
01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:29.400
And Ben's done a great job, honestly much better than I did

1388
01:20:29.400 --> 01:20:34.400
when I was actually shepherding the prophetic myself.

1389
01:20:34.400 --> 01:20:37.400
Ben's done a great job, he's a much better pastor than I,

1390
01:20:37.400 --> 01:20:44.400
of creating consistency with our people who don't create it for themselves.

1391
01:20:44.400 --> 01:20:48.400
And Ben's good at like, you need this, like, hey you actually need this,

1392
01:20:48.400 --> 01:20:50.400
hey you actually need this.

1393
01:20:50.400 --> 01:20:55.400
And I'm like, impatient, I'm like, forget that person, they don't want to be consistent.

1394
01:20:56.400 --> 01:21:00.400
And Ben just has, you can feel it when Ben's up here, right?

1395
01:21:00.400 --> 01:21:05.400
He's just a much better father and shepherd than I am.

1396
01:21:05.400 --> 01:21:10.400
And so he's created a lot more, him and the team, created a lot more consistency

1397
01:21:10.400 --> 01:21:16.400
in taking people who don't have disciplines and saying, you have to have this.

1398
01:21:16.400 --> 01:21:20.400
And I think it's really made our prophetic community so much healthier.

1399
01:21:20.400 --> 01:21:23.400
So that's my comment. Thank you for asking the question.

1400
01:21:25.400 --> 01:21:38.400
Wow, that was good, huh? Good stuff. Great questions, you guys.

1401
01:21:38.400 --> 01:21:41.400
And we realize there's a lot of questions you still have.

1402
01:21:41.400 --> 01:21:44.400
That's going to be a fun journey with Holy Spirit.

1403
01:21:44.400 --> 01:21:51.400
You know, I told you Graham Cook asked me, hey, are we a prophetic company

1404
01:21:51.400 --> 01:21:53.400
or do we just love prophecy?

1405
01:21:53.400 --> 01:21:55.400
And I said, well, what's the difference?

1406
01:21:55.400 --> 01:22:01.400
And he goes, oh, that'll be a great three to five year journey with Holy Spirit.

1407
01:22:01.400 --> 01:22:05.400
I'm like, why do you have to yo to me?

1408
01:22:05.400 --> 01:22:11.400
Come on, Gandalf, just answer the question, you know what I mean?

1409
01:22:11.400 --> 01:22:17.400
But it truly was, it truly was like a three to five year journey with Holy Spirit.

1410
01:22:17.400 --> 01:22:19.400
And it was wonderful.

1411
01:22:19.400 --> 01:22:23.400
And it goes so much deeper than just the information of his answer.

1412
01:22:23.400 --> 01:22:28.400
As Holy Spirit brought levels of revelation, you know, so we love these times.

1413
01:22:28.400 --> 01:22:30.400
And thanks for your great input.

1414
01:22:30.400 --> 01:22:33.400
Hey, we're going a different way this year than we've ever gone.

1415
01:22:33.400 --> 01:22:35.400
And it is an experiment.

1416
01:22:35.400 --> 01:22:42.400
OK, we have for years we've had on our heart kind of what's next for School of the Prophets.

1417
01:22:42.400 --> 01:22:50.400
And we've done like, we even tried a couple of years dividing kind of beginners and advanced and stuff like that.

1418
01:22:50.400 --> 01:22:55.400
And we even were planning a level two School of the Prophets.

1419
01:22:55.400 --> 01:22:57.400
And that's not to say that we won't do that someday.

1420
01:22:57.400 --> 01:23:02.400
But we're like, hey, because people always ask us, hey, how can I get mentored?

1421
01:23:02.400 --> 01:23:04.400
Or how can I get to the next level?

1422
01:23:04.400 --> 01:23:06.400
Where can I get more training?

1423
01:23:06.400 --> 01:23:10.400
How can I enter into a deeper level of prophetic community?

1424
01:23:10.400 --> 01:23:21.400
And so we realized that we actually do already have some vehicles that do those kind of things and can help build that for you.

1425
01:23:21.400 --> 01:23:26.400
And I want to be really careful because a lot of these programs are tuition-based.

1426
01:23:26.400 --> 01:23:31.400
And I don't want anybody to feel like this is the big upsell at the end of the conference, OK?

1427
01:23:31.400 --> 01:23:34.400
Because that's not what we're talking about.

1428
01:23:34.400 --> 01:23:40.400
We do believe that it's important that you invest in you.

1429
01:23:40.400 --> 01:23:42.400
And then it costs money to put on programs.

1430
01:23:42.400 --> 01:23:43.400
It just does.

1431
01:23:43.400 --> 01:23:46.400
So that's the reality of the situation.

1432
01:23:46.400 --> 01:23:49.400
But are we going to put pressure on anybody to do anything?

1433
01:23:49.400 --> 01:23:58.400
No, we just want to make you aware of some of the things that are available that can provide the answers that we get all the time.

1434
01:23:58.400 --> 01:24:00.400
Again, about, well, I don't have a prophetic community.

1435
01:24:00.400 --> 01:24:01.400
How?

1436
01:24:01.400 --> 01:24:03.400
Or I want more training.

1437
01:24:03.400 --> 01:24:04.400
Or I want mentoring.

1438
01:24:04.400 --> 01:24:07.400
Or I want to specialize in a certain area.

1439
01:24:07.400 --> 01:24:16.400
And so we thought we'd take a little bit of time today and just feature some of the programs that these trainers run in addition to School of the Prophets.

1440
01:24:16.400 --> 01:24:18.400
And we'll do that for just about 30 minutes.

1441
01:24:18.400 --> 01:24:26.400
And when it's over, we're going to have an expo both online and in the – what room is that?

1442
01:24:26.400 --> 01:24:28.400
The West?

1443
01:24:28.400 --> 01:24:30.400
The East-West.

1444
01:24:30.400 --> 01:24:31.400
How is it East-West?

1445
01:24:31.400 --> 01:24:32.400
I don't know.

1446
01:24:32.400 --> 01:24:38.400
But anyway, is it as far as the East is from the West?

1447
01:24:38.400 --> 01:24:39.400
Yeah.

1448
01:24:39.400 --> 01:24:42.400
You just go out that door, and it's right there on the right.

1449
01:24:42.400 --> 01:24:44.400
Okay?

1450
01:24:44.400 --> 01:24:50.400
But anyway, there's going to be an expo there where you can talk to the people that are running these different ministries.

1451
01:24:50.400 --> 01:24:52.400
And they are on the board right now.

1452
01:24:52.400 --> 01:24:56.400
So we're going to get a quick introduction to each one of those.

1453
01:24:56.400 --> 01:24:58.400
And I see first is Bethel Prophetic.

1454
01:24:58.400 --> 01:25:00.400
So come on up.

1455
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:05.000
up and welcome Ben Armstrong who runs Bethel Prophetic.

1456
01:25:09.160 --> 01:25:10.120
What is it?

1457
01:25:10.120 --> 01:25:11.720
How can they get involved?

1458
01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:19.800
Yeah, bethelprophetic.com,

1459
01:25:19.800 --> 01:25:23.940
all of our online learning platforms are there.

1460
01:25:23.940 --> 01:25:26.220
Really it's, we wanna resource you

1461
01:25:26.220 --> 01:25:31.220
and not only the prophetic, foundational prophetic stuff,

1462
01:25:32.340 --> 01:25:35.100
dream interpretation, advanced prophetic,

1463
01:25:35.100 --> 01:25:36.820
advanced dream interpretation.

1464
01:25:36.820 --> 01:25:39.460
We have all kinds of daily devotionals.

1465
01:25:39.460 --> 01:25:43.140
We have all kinds of interview style prophetic

1466
01:25:43.140 --> 01:25:45.460
around many different themes.

1467
01:25:45.460 --> 01:25:50.460
And really the point of it is to continually resource you

1468
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:53.820
as the prophetic global community.

1469
01:25:53.820 --> 01:25:57.340
And our heart is to make sure that we're continuing

1470
01:25:57.340 --> 01:26:02.300
to give you spots to grow, to learn and create.

1471
01:26:02.300 --> 01:26:04.080
For some of you, you're like,

1472
01:26:04.080 --> 01:26:06.780
how do I develop a prophetic community?

1473
01:26:06.780 --> 01:26:10.660
We have a whole course on developing prophetic communities.

1474
01:26:10.660 --> 01:26:13.300
We have courses, online courses

1475
01:26:13.300 --> 01:26:15.840
about how do you steward encounters?

1476
01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:17.620
How do you actually do this stuff?

1477
01:26:17.620 --> 01:26:21.740
So we have regular seminars on that here,

1478
01:26:21.780 --> 01:26:24.740
but we've actually filmed those for you.

1479
01:26:24.740 --> 01:26:26.120
And then as well,

1480
01:26:26.120 --> 01:26:30.180
we have what's called Dream Life School of Interpretation.

1481
01:26:30.180 --> 01:26:33.380
And I told you, we have scratched the surface,

1482
01:26:33.380 --> 01:26:35.860
just barely scratched the surface

1483
01:26:35.860 --> 01:26:38.780
of this whole theme of interpretation.

1484
01:26:38.780 --> 01:26:43.020
And I believe it's actually a vital tool for God's prophets

1485
01:26:43.020 --> 01:26:45.780
is this gift of interpretation.

1486
01:26:45.780 --> 01:26:50.780
And we spend three days in March just going after that.

1487
01:26:50.820 --> 01:26:53.260
And I think we actually have a slide

1488
01:26:53.260 --> 01:26:57.460
for the School of Interpretation.

1489
01:26:57.460 --> 01:26:59.220
Do we have that slide?

1490
01:26:59.220 --> 01:27:01.820
Let me see, cause we're giving you a special deal.

1491
01:27:01.820 --> 01:27:03.580
If not, that's fine.

1492
01:27:03.580 --> 01:27:07.620
You just check it out in the expo room.

1493
01:27:07.620 --> 01:27:10.860
We really believe that this is a critical tool,

1494
01:27:10.860 --> 01:27:13.060
especially in this day and age,

1495
01:27:13.060 --> 01:27:16.980
when God ushers in a new historical season

1496
01:27:16.980 --> 01:27:20.100
and you look at the Bible in biblical times,

1497
01:27:20.140 --> 01:27:22.660
most of the time when there is a huge shift,

1498
01:27:22.660 --> 01:27:25.540
it was marked by dreams and visions.

1499
01:27:25.540 --> 01:27:28.580
And there needs to be interpretation for that.

1500
01:27:28.580 --> 01:27:30.260
So those are some of the resources

1501
01:27:30.260 --> 01:27:32.780
that we have available for you

1502
01:27:32.780 --> 01:27:36.340
if you wanna continue to grow in that area.

1503
01:27:36.340 --> 01:27:37.220
Awesome.

1504
01:27:37.220 --> 01:27:38.140
Thanks, Ben.

1505
01:27:38.140 --> 01:27:39.780
Here, I'll take that one too.

1506
01:27:39.780 --> 01:27:41.860
I'm gonna ask Bethany to come up.

1507
01:27:41.860 --> 01:27:43.820
Bethany Hicks, have you enjoyed hearing

1508
01:27:43.820 --> 01:27:45.180
from Bethany this week?

1509
01:27:45.620 --> 01:27:46.460
Yeah, we're good.

1510
01:27:46.460 --> 01:27:48.260
Okay, awesome.

1511
01:27:48.260 --> 01:27:50.660
Well, one of the things that the Lord has called

1512
01:27:50.660 --> 01:27:52.300
a prophetic company to do,

1513
01:27:52.300 --> 01:27:53.980
and Bethany, when we were talking

1514
01:27:53.980 --> 01:27:57.220
about strategic partners last night,

1515
01:27:57.220 --> 01:27:59.180
Bethany has been such a strategic partner

1516
01:27:59.180 --> 01:28:01.940
with Regina and I in the formation

1517
01:28:01.940 --> 01:28:04.020
of the prophetic company.

1518
01:28:04.020 --> 01:28:06.060
And one of the mandates we have

1519
01:28:06.060 --> 01:28:08.020
is to rewrite what the prophetic looks like

1520
01:28:08.020 --> 01:28:09.500
in our generation.

1521
01:28:09.500 --> 01:28:11.740
As we are asking the Lord what we could do

1522
01:28:11.740 --> 01:28:14.180
to make the prophetic company work better,

1523
01:28:14.220 --> 01:28:16.500
we're asking the Lord what we could do about that.

1524
01:28:16.500 --> 01:28:18.100
We felt like one of the things He said

1525
01:28:18.100 --> 01:28:21.220
is we could raise up trainers in every major city

1526
01:28:21.220 --> 01:28:22.340
in the United States,

1527
01:28:23.460 --> 01:28:25.340
every population over 100,000,

1528
01:28:25.340 --> 01:28:26.780
which is 4,000 cities.

1529
01:28:26.780 --> 01:28:29.460
So we're going after 4,000 trainers

1530
01:28:29.460 --> 01:28:31.580
in the next 10 years who are gonna help people

1531
01:28:31.580 --> 01:28:34.420
recognize and respond the voice of God,

1532
01:28:34.420 --> 01:28:37.460
know the protocols, the values for prophecy,

1533
01:28:37.460 --> 01:28:40.700
and have this vision of changing.

1534
01:28:40.700 --> 01:28:43.660
We've got, we're also working in the nations as well.

1535
01:28:44.180 --> 01:28:45.860
We've already got, I think, about 19 countries

1536
01:28:45.860 --> 01:28:47.500
that are a part of our program.

1537
01:28:47.500 --> 01:28:50.220
So tell more about the vision and the program.

1538
01:28:50.220 --> 01:28:52.860
Yeah, well, what this is is the 10-month program.

1539
01:28:52.860 --> 01:28:53.900
I think you mentioned that.

1540
01:28:53.900 --> 01:28:56.500
And we meet every week online,

1541
01:28:56.500 --> 01:28:59.020
and your instructors are Dano and myself.

1542
01:28:59.020 --> 01:29:01.940
So we will meet with you two hours every single week.

1543
01:29:01.940 --> 01:29:05.460
What we do is we go through the 12 receptors

1544
01:29:05.460 --> 01:29:08.580
and we teach you not as a student, but as a trainer.

1545
01:29:08.580 --> 01:29:10.420
And so a lot of times, if you've been

1546
01:29:10.420 --> 01:29:13.140
to any of our Activate trainings or anything like that,

1547
01:29:13.660 --> 01:29:15.660
we only give you like just the tip of an iceberg.

1548
01:29:15.660 --> 01:29:17.500
And so when you go through our program,

1549
01:29:17.500 --> 01:29:20.860
you're gonna get the depth of content of that iceberg.

1550
01:29:20.860 --> 01:29:22.820
And then we're gonna be teaching you as a trainer.

1551
01:29:22.820 --> 01:29:24.620
You're gonna be developing lesson plans.

1552
01:29:24.620 --> 01:29:26.300
We're gonna show you how to do that.

1553
01:29:26.300 --> 01:29:29.540
We're gonna ask that you actually start running trainings,

1554
01:29:29.540 --> 01:29:32.140
whether it's with two people in a home group

1555
01:29:32.140 --> 01:29:34.580
or whether you're already running a prophetic school.

1556
01:29:34.580 --> 01:29:37.300
And we're gonna equip you to have enough training,

1557
01:29:37.300 --> 01:29:41.060
prophetic training content for at least one year.

1558
01:29:41.100 --> 01:29:44.020
We actually have a three-year ACT program right now.

1559
01:29:44.020 --> 01:29:45.660
How many of you guys, just by a show of hands,

1560
01:29:45.660 --> 01:29:48.140
are currently in the ACT program that's in the room?

1561
01:29:48.140 --> 01:29:49.460
Just I want you guys, why don't you stand up

1562
01:29:49.460 --> 01:29:51.060
so people can just see you guys.

1563
01:29:51.060 --> 01:29:54.740
We wanna show you guys just how many people have been.

1564
01:29:54.740 --> 01:29:57.380
And then one hand, two hand, how many of you guys

1565
01:29:57.380 --> 01:29:59.780
has radically changed your life and what you've been doing?

1566
01:29:59.780 --> 01:30:00.620
Come on.

1567
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:01.700
It has been worth the investment.

1568
01:30:01.700 --> 01:30:04.840
So we want you to know, this is definitely a,

1569
01:30:04.840 --> 01:30:08.400
it is, think of it like a tuition and investment program,

1570
01:30:08.400 --> 01:30:13.120
but we have seen so many people come alive

1571
01:30:13.120 --> 01:30:14.320
to the voice of God.

1572
01:30:14.320 --> 01:30:15.160
And many of you guys are like,

1573
01:30:15.160 --> 01:30:16.760
well, there's no prophetic in our area.

1574
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:19.280
Well, maybe you're the forerunner.

1575
01:30:19.280 --> 01:30:20.120
You know what I mean?

1576
01:30:20.120 --> 01:30:21.240
And we wanna help equip you.

1577
01:30:21.240 --> 01:30:25.680
If you feel a call and a desire to train up other people

1578
01:30:25.680 --> 01:30:28.960
to be able to recognize and respond to the voice of God,

1579
01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:31.400
then that's really what this particular program

1580
01:30:31.400 --> 01:30:33.000
is about for you.

1581
01:30:33.000 --> 01:30:36.320
So ACT stands for Activate Certified Trainers.

1582
01:30:36.320 --> 01:30:41.080
Activate is a training method where we learn by doing.

1583
01:30:41.080 --> 01:30:45.240
So we teach prophecy by having people prophesy.

1584
01:30:45.240 --> 01:30:47.640
And so usually in an event,

1585
01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:50.880
people will prophesy 10 to 20 times a day

1586
01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:53.840
in various ways doing different receptors.

1587
01:30:53.840 --> 01:30:57.620
And we have just seen incredible retention rates.

1588
01:30:57.620 --> 01:31:00.440
We've seen prophetic communities accelerate.

1589
01:31:00.440 --> 01:31:02.700
We've seen our trainers really kind of find

1590
01:31:02.700 --> 01:31:04.320
their dream spot.

1591
01:31:04.320 --> 01:31:06.340
And it's just, we're having so much fun.

1592
01:31:06.340 --> 01:31:07.660
And I wanna just mention too,

1593
01:31:07.660 --> 01:31:08.980
maybe you have a desire,

1594
01:31:08.980 --> 01:31:10.540
but you don't feel like you have a platform

1595
01:31:10.540 --> 01:31:13.740
or you don't even feel like you have the skills.

1596
01:31:13.740 --> 01:31:15.540
You know, we have people in our program

1597
01:31:15.540 --> 01:31:19.100
from ages 30 up to over 70.

1598
01:31:19.100 --> 01:31:20.940
And I mean, one of our favorite stories,

1599
01:31:20.940 --> 01:31:22.020
she's in the room right now,

1600
01:31:22.020 --> 01:31:23.520
but she didn't have a school.

1601
01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:25.300
She didn't have an opportunity.

1602
01:31:25.300 --> 01:31:27.740
And there was something about aligning

1603
01:31:27.740 --> 01:31:29.920
with the training and the program

1604
01:31:29.920 --> 01:31:32.860
that actually has accelerated her opportunities.

1605
01:31:32.860 --> 01:31:36.340
And now she's teaching in women's aglow movements.

1606
01:31:36.340 --> 01:31:39.660
And now she's been developing a prophetic community

1607
01:31:39.660 --> 01:31:41.660
and training within her region and area.

1608
01:31:41.660 --> 01:31:44.360
And so you guys, the prophetic is a key

1609
01:31:44.360 --> 01:31:47.040
to what God wants to do in advance the kingdom of God.

1610
01:31:47.040 --> 01:31:49.920
And we need an army of trainers

1611
01:31:49.920 --> 01:31:51.700
that are really wanting to step into that.

1612
01:31:51.740 --> 01:31:54.620
So we do have a special coupon code

1613
01:31:54.620 --> 01:31:57.660
for our School of the Prophets attendees.

1614
01:31:57.660 --> 01:31:59.020
If that's something you're interested in,

1615
01:31:59.020 --> 01:32:01.260
of course, Deanna and I will be available

1616
01:32:01.260 --> 01:32:04.460
along with some of our trainers at the expo booth.

1617
01:32:04.460 --> 01:32:07.460
But if this is something you're interested in

1618
01:32:07.460 --> 01:32:09.480
and you don't have time to come to the booth or whatever,

1619
01:32:09.480 --> 01:32:11.400
you can find out more information

1620
01:32:11.400 --> 01:32:14.420
at activatecertification.com.

1621
01:32:14.420 --> 01:32:16.160
And then your coupon code,

1622
01:32:16.160 --> 01:32:19.020
if you wanted to register in the next seven days,

1623
01:32:19.020 --> 01:32:22.340
you receive an additional $500 off.

1624
01:32:22.340 --> 01:32:26.220
And that would be S-O-T-P 22.

1625
01:32:26.220 --> 01:32:30.940
So the acronym for School of the Prophets, S-O-T-P 22.

1626
01:32:30.940 --> 01:32:32.420
You would use that coupon code

1627
01:32:32.420 --> 01:32:34.860
and that would give you an additional $500 off.

1628
01:32:34.860 --> 01:32:39.860
And then our next school begins the first week of January 23.

1629
01:32:39.900 --> 01:32:41.940
Yeah, thanks so much, Beth.

1630
01:32:41.940 --> 01:32:46.500
All right, let's hear from Lindsay and Prophetic Labs.

1631
01:32:46.940 --> 01:32:47.780
Hi, girls.

1632
01:32:50.180 --> 01:32:51.260
Hey, guys.

1633
01:32:51.260 --> 01:32:52.100
Hi.

1634
01:32:52.100 --> 01:32:53.140
Hey.

1635
01:32:53.140 --> 01:32:58.140
Okay, so propheticlab.com is where we teach their classes,

1636
01:32:58.920 --> 01:33:02.780
but we call them labs because we do a lot of R&D.

1637
01:33:02.780 --> 01:33:06.240
When I first just started exploring the prophetic,

1638
01:33:06.240 --> 01:33:07.780
I was experiencing things,

1639
01:33:07.780 --> 01:33:11.460
but I was looking for a structure or a wineskin

1640
01:33:12.360 --> 01:33:13.200
to put it in.

1641
01:33:13.200 --> 01:33:14.740
And so basically what I started doing,

1642
01:33:14.740 --> 01:33:15.780
because I'm a researcher,

1643
01:33:15.780 --> 01:33:18.540
I started looking into what the intelligence community does

1644
01:33:18.540 --> 01:33:20.100
and the science community,

1645
01:33:20.100 --> 01:33:21.500
and then I was taking their methods

1646
01:33:21.500 --> 01:33:23.460
and applying it to the spiritual.

1647
01:33:23.460 --> 01:33:26.500
And we've just been having so much fun in that space.

1648
01:33:26.500 --> 01:33:29.660
And so we have two classes that'll be starting

1649
01:33:29.660 --> 01:33:31.460
at propheticlab.com.

1650
01:33:31.460 --> 01:33:34.260
The first one is called Methods 101.

1651
01:33:34.260 --> 01:33:36.980
I'm looking to see if Emery's in here.

1652
01:33:36.980 --> 01:33:38.020
So you guys see me,

1653
01:33:38.020 --> 01:33:40.380
but Prophetic Lab actually has a whole team of people

1654
01:33:40.380 --> 01:33:41.580
that teach and do stuff.

1655
01:33:41.580 --> 01:33:46.300
And Methods 101 is a one, three-hour class

1656
01:33:46.300 --> 01:33:48.220
where we'll go through the anatomy

1657
01:33:48.220 --> 01:33:49.380
and you guys will practice

1658
01:33:49.380 --> 01:33:51.340
doing different kinds of words on each other.

1659
01:33:51.340 --> 01:33:53.860
And then we also go through the biblical foundation

1660
01:33:53.860 --> 01:33:55.620
for prophesying signs.

1661
01:33:55.620 --> 01:33:56.460
And we practice that,

1662
01:33:56.460 --> 01:33:58.460
and we have so many testimonies that come out of that.

1663
01:33:58.460 --> 01:34:02.900
And so it's kind of a scratch and sniff of many methods,

1664
01:34:02.900 --> 01:34:04.260
as he says.

1665
01:34:04.260 --> 01:34:06.820
And then we have this course called

1666
01:34:08.040 --> 01:34:10.300
the Prophetic Report Lab Intensive,

1667
01:34:10.300 --> 01:34:12.140
which I really need to rename it.

1668
01:34:12.140 --> 01:34:13.660
It's a long, it's a mouthful,

1669
01:34:13.660 --> 01:34:15.940
but I had to throw intensive in there because it's intense.

1670
01:34:15.940 --> 01:34:19.020
So it's a five-week course, two hours.

1671
01:34:19.020 --> 01:34:22.060
And basically what we teach you how to do

1672
01:34:22.060 --> 01:34:23.580
is take you through the process

1673
01:34:23.580 --> 01:34:26.180
of how to create a prophetic report.

1674
01:34:26.180 --> 01:34:28.700
And that is, looks like this.

1675
01:34:28.700 --> 01:34:31.180
I cap the class at 10 to 15 people.

1676
01:34:32.380 --> 01:34:33.860
You guys all get code names,

1677
01:34:33.860 --> 01:34:35.780
and then we take you through prophesying.

1678
01:34:35.780 --> 01:34:38.620
And the fun part about this is that when you are,

1679
01:34:38.900 --> 01:34:41.340
we're pretty, listen, we're not high-tech,

1680
01:34:41.340 --> 01:34:42.540
but to some people we are.

1681
01:34:42.540 --> 01:34:44.300
We use Google Docs, okay?

1682
01:34:44.300 --> 01:34:46.340
So like for some people that's a lot,

1683
01:34:46.340 --> 01:34:47.700
and you need to know how to copy paste.

1684
01:34:47.700 --> 01:34:49.540
Okay, so I get a lot.

1685
01:34:49.540 --> 01:34:51.020
You would be surprised.

1686
01:34:51.020 --> 01:34:52.340
They're like, the lab's high-tech.

1687
01:34:52.340 --> 01:34:53.260
It's really not.

1688
01:34:53.260 --> 01:34:55.920
So here's what will happen.

1689
01:34:55.920 --> 01:34:58.580
So as we take you through the process of prophesying,

1690
01:34:58.580 --> 01:34:59.900
like you'll submit your words,

1691
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:02.120
or notebook, and then I have a team,

1692
01:35:02.120 --> 01:35:06.200
we'll read your words, and then we'll find places

1693
01:35:06.200 --> 01:35:07.920
for you to press in for more.

1694
01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:10.080
You will either love or hate this, okay?

1695
01:35:10.080 --> 01:35:12.160
But I promise you, it stretches you.

1696
01:35:12.160 --> 01:35:15.120
So a great example is, I use this one all the time.

1697
01:35:15.120 --> 01:35:16.440
I see this word everywhere.

1698
01:35:16.440 --> 01:35:18.400
A season of breakthrough is coming.

1699
01:35:18.400 --> 01:35:20.200
So then what would happen is I would go in

1700
01:35:20.200 --> 01:35:21.800
and I'd be like, that's so amazing.

1701
01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:23.520
Can you go to the Lord and ask like,

1702
01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:24.800
a season of breakthrough in what?

1703
01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:26.480
Their family, their career, their finances,

1704
01:35:26.480 --> 01:35:27.440
their dance moves?

1705
01:35:27.440 --> 01:35:28.280
When is it coming?

1706
01:35:28.280 --> 01:35:29.100
How is it coming?

1707
01:35:29.100 --> 01:35:31.420
Is there anything they can do to prepare for it?

1708
01:35:31.420 --> 01:35:33.540
And all I'm doing is what I tell them is like,

1709
01:35:33.540 --> 01:35:37.620
listen, it's okay, because I ask God questions

1710
01:35:37.620 --> 01:35:39.220
all the time, he doesn't answer, okay?

1711
01:35:39.220 --> 01:35:41.400
I'm not saying that you have to come up with an answer,

1712
01:35:41.400 --> 01:35:42.900
I'm just saying, did you ask?

1713
01:35:42.900 --> 01:35:45.300
You do not have, because you do not ask, right?

1714
01:35:45.300 --> 01:35:47.220
So we push you, right?

1715
01:35:47.220 --> 01:35:49.740
And then your words come back, they come in a report,

1716
01:35:49.740 --> 01:35:52.620
and then we teach you, once you get all your words,

1717
01:35:52.620 --> 01:35:55.860
we teach you how to process all those words.

1718
01:35:55.860 --> 01:35:59.600
How to pull out the identity, your gifts and skills,

1719
01:35:59.600 --> 01:36:04.500
identify what's coming, the actual intel, the scripture.

1720
01:36:04.500 --> 01:36:07.340
And that process is really helpful.

1721
01:36:07.340 --> 01:36:09.560
It is the number, I think it's one of the most impactful

1722
01:36:09.560 --> 01:36:12.380
ways to learn how to prophesy like a sharpshooter,

1723
01:36:12.380 --> 01:36:16.120
because then you start realizing where things land, right?

1724
01:36:18.020 --> 01:36:21.580
And then lastly, at the end, I also teach you

1725
01:36:21.580 --> 01:36:24.060
how to use this processing method

1726
01:36:24.060 --> 01:36:28.760
on how to apply it to the great prophetic report

1727
01:36:28.760 --> 01:36:30.140
that is our Bible.

1728
01:36:30.140 --> 01:36:33.100
So that is the prophetic report lab intensive.

1729
01:36:33.100 --> 01:36:36.080
I love that connection with the word, that is so cool.

1730
01:36:36.080 --> 01:36:38.860
Chris, come on up, and let's take this

1731
01:36:38.860 --> 01:36:41.200
to kind of another level too,

1732
01:36:41.200 --> 01:36:44.420
with the Spiritual Intelligence Institute.

1733
01:36:44.420 --> 01:36:47.340
And one of the things I love about

1734
01:36:47.340 --> 01:36:49.100
the Spiritual Intelligence Institute

1735
01:36:49.100 --> 01:36:51.160
is it doesn't just use prophecy,

1736
01:36:51.160 --> 01:36:56.160
but it's using a whole tool belt full of spiritual gifts

1737
01:36:56.280 --> 01:36:59.400
to access supernatural intelligence, so.

1738
01:36:59.400 --> 01:37:03.520
Yeah, so years ago, the Lord gave me this insight,

1739
01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:06.040
and I think I've shared just a little piece of it,

1740
01:37:06.040 --> 01:37:07.640
that there's IQ and EQ.

1741
01:37:07.640 --> 01:37:09.760
By the way, if you haven't studied emotional intelligence,

1742
01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:11.800
I'd really recommend that you get a book

1743
01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:14.640
and read a book on emotional intelligence.

1744
01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:16.880
But the Lord started talking about SQ,

1745
01:37:16.880 --> 01:37:18.620
Spiritual Intelligence.

1746
01:37:19.340 --> 01:37:21.820
And you know, Romans 12 says,

1747
01:37:21.820 --> 01:37:22.980
don't be conformed to this world,

1748
01:37:22.980 --> 01:37:25.500
but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

1749
01:37:25.500 --> 01:37:27.860
So when you renew your mind, you think like God, right?

1750
01:37:27.860 --> 01:37:29.180
That's the goal.

1751
01:37:29.180 --> 01:37:31.980
But 1 Corinthians chapter two says

1752
01:37:31.980 --> 01:37:35.180
that we actually have access to the thoughts of God.

1753
01:37:35.180 --> 01:37:36.620
The thoughts of God isn't renewing,

1754
01:37:36.620 --> 01:37:40.000
it's not thinking like God, it's thinking God thoughts.

1755
01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:42.060
Let's say that your neighbor hates you,

1756
01:37:42.060 --> 01:37:43.580
and he throws junk over your fence,

1757
01:37:43.580 --> 01:37:45.340
and he cusses you out every day.

1758
01:37:45.340 --> 01:37:48.340
When you're thinking like God, you're thinking like Jesus,

1759
01:37:49.060 --> 01:37:49.900
and you're thinking like, well, what would Jesus do?

1760
01:37:49.900 --> 01:37:51.740
Well, he would love your enemy,

1761
01:37:51.740 --> 01:37:54.500
pray for those who persecute, so on and so forth.

1762
01:37:54.500 --> 01:37:59.500
And so, but, so you're loving Henry who hates you,

1763
01:38:00.540 --> 01:38:03.380
you're sending him cookies instead of cursing him,

1764
01:38:03.380 --> 01:38:06.460
you're being kind to him when he's not kind to you.

1765
01:38:06.460 --> 01:38:09.380
But when you tap into the mind of Christ,

1766
01:38:09.380 --> 01:38:11.300
you're not thinking like God.

1767
01:38:11.300 --> 01:38:13.980
You're actually thinking the thoughts of God

1768
01:38:13.980 --> 01:38:15.980
as if you Googled God.

1769
01:38:16.980 --> 01:38:20.020
And that, and out of that, you would say,

1770
01:38:20.020 --> 01:38:21.500
Lord, why does Henry hate me?

1771
01:38:21.500 --> 01:38:23.140
And he says, maybe the Lord says,

1772
01:38:23.140 --> 01:38:26.740
well, his father was a pastor, molested the children,

1773
01:38:26.740 --> 01:38:30.740
lived like hell Monday through, you know, Saturday,

1774
01:38:30.740 --> 01:38:32.780
and preached heaven on Sunday.

1775
01:38:32.780 --> 01:38:35.500
And when he sees you, he sees his father.

1776
01:38:35.500 --> 01:38:38.300
How many know I'm not thinking like God?

1777
01:38:38.300 --> 01:38:39.620
I'm thinking God thoughts.

1778
01:38:40.580 --> 01:38:44.580
And so years ago, the Lord gave me access

1779
01:38:44.700 --> 01:38:48.580
to actually learn how to develop neural pathways

1780
01:38:48.580 --> 01:38:49.780
into his thoughts.

1781
01:38:50.820 --> 01:38:53.300
And I started thinking, can I teach other people to do this?

1782
01:38:53.300 --> 01:38:55.300
First of all, can I do it more often?

1783
01:38:55.300 --> 01:38:56.740
And can I teach other people to do this?

1784
01:38:56.740 --> 01:38:59.620
And thus, we started, I wrote a book about it.

1785
01:38:59.620 --> 01:39:01.940
And after I wrote the book, my team was like,

1786
01:39:01.940 --> 01:39:03.380
man, this is really good.

1787
01:39:03.380 --> 01:39:06.020
We should like have some kind of training

1788
01:39:06.020 --> 01:39:08.580
where we can teach people how to have the gift of wisdom

1789
01:39:08.580 --> 01:39:11.860
and apply it to their, you know, with application,

1790
01:39:11.860 --> 01:39:14.940
how we can teach people to actually catch the mind of God

1791
01:39:14.940 --> 01:39:15.980
with words of knowledge.

1792
01:39:15.980 --> 01:39:19.820
And so we started developing some methods

1793
01:39:19.820 --> 01:39:23.660
that we can more proactively build neural pathways

1794
01:39:23.660 --> 01:39:27.020
to what we call SQ, spiritual intelligence.

1795
01:39:27.020 --> 01:39:31.300
And that created, we had out of like lots of dialogue,

1796
01:39:31.300 --> 01:39:33.180
like months and months of dialogue

1797
01:39:33.180 --> 01:39:35.140
with Dano and his teams too.

1798
01:39:36.100 --> 01:39:37.940
We started thinking,

1799
01:39:37.940 --> 01:39:40.180
we started actually creating a curriculum.

1800
01:39:40.180 --> 01:39:41.660
Didn't start out as a curriculum.

1801
01:39:42.260 --> 01:39:43.100
It started out as some thoughts

1802
01:39:43.100 --> 01:39:45.420
and how we could, you know, do this better and better

1803
01:39:45.420 --> 01:39:47.220
and make it more active.

1804
01:39:47.220 --> 01:39:50.180
And after a while, it became a curriculum.

1805
01:39:50.180 --> 01:39:53.860
Lindsay jumped in with her scientific

1806
01:39:53.860 --> 01:39:55.740
and intelligence community ideas.

1807
01:39:55.740 --> 01:39:57.180
And she's like, well, it could look like this.

1808
01:39:57.180 --> 01:39:58.580
And it could look like that.

1809
01:39:58.580 --> 01:40:00.060
And honestly, it...

1810
01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:02.680
emerged out of several conversations.

1811
01:40:02.680 --> 01:40:04.920
And then we did our first one,

1812
01:40:04.920 --> 01:40:07.400
Spiritual Intelligence Institute.

1813
01:40:07.400 --> 01:40:09.820
And it was so amazing.

1814
01:40:09.820 --> 01:40:11.600
How many of you in the room went through

1815
01:40:11.600 --> 01:40:12.840
the first round of SQ?

1816
01:40:12.840 --> 01:40:13.680
Woo!

1817
01:40:13.680 --> 01:40:14.500
Yeah.

1818
01:40:14.500 --> 01:40:15.340
Why don't you guys stand up?

1819
01:40:15.340 --> 01:40:16.180
We wanna see you guys.

1820
01:40:16.180 --> 01:40:17.400
Yeah.

1821
01:40:17.400 --> 01:40:18.240
Awesome.

1822
01:40:18.240 --> 01:40:19.060
So good.

1823
01:40:19.060 --> 01:40:19.900
Yes.

1824
01:40:19.900 --> 01:40:20.740
Yeah.

1825
01:40:20.740 --> 01:40:21.560
Way to go.

1826
01:40:21.560 --> 01:40:22.800
Thanks for being part, you guys.

1827
01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:25.960
And out of that, you know, Lindsey's got,

1828
01:40:25.960 --> 01:40:28.000
she's amazing, right?

1829
01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:28.840
Yeah.

1830
01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:30.200
Yes.

1831
01:40:30.200 --> 01:40:33.120
Her and her team started doing this double blind stuff.

1832
01:40:33.120 --> 01:40:34.960
You heard some about it,

1833
01:40:34.960 --> 01:40:36.760
about tapping into the mind of Christ,

1834
01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:38.240
solving problems.

1835
01:40:38.240 --> 01:40:41.800
And we ended up with very tough problems

1836
01:40:41.800 --> 01:40:43.320
that we got from government people

1837
01:40:43.320 --> 01:40:44.840
and all these different people were like,

1838
01:40:44.840 --> 01:40:46.680
could you, could your team do,

1839
01:40:46.680 --> 01:40:48.720
could we do an exercise with that?

1840
01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:51.400
So that's what SQ's about.

1841
01:40:51.400 --> 01:40:53.520
And you wanna say more about it, please?

1842
01:40:53.520 --> 01:40:56.160
Yeah, so the definition of intelligence

1843
01:40:56.160 --> 01:41:00.800
is the ability to acquire and apply intelligence, right?

1844
01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:04.600
So we're really good at acquiring spiritual information,

1845
01:41:04.600 --> 01:41:06.000
but we're like, we wanna plug and play.

1846
01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:08.840
So at SQ, we're gonna take you through practice

1847
01:41:08.840 --> 01:41:11.200
and we'll do like how you receive

1848
01:41:11.200 --> 01:41:14.480
and the practice of creating new neural pathways.

1849
01:41:14.480 --> 01:41:16.280
But then you go in these tanks,

1850
01:41:16.280 --> 01:41:19.160
like a think tank, but think like God tank.

1851
01:41:19.160 --> 01:41:21.760
You get put in these tanks and we go out,

1852
01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:23.880
this is the fun, risky part of it.

1853
01:41:23.880 --> 01:41:28.200
And we ask different kinds of people like in business

1854
01:41:28.200 --> 01:41:31.040
or the medical industry, entertainment.

1855
01:41:31.040 --> 01:41:33.920
And then we ask for a problem

1856
01:41:33.920 --> 01:41:35.920
and each tank gets assigned a problem.

1857
01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:38.480
And then they, through the spiritual intelligence,

1858
01:41:38.480 --> 01:41:39.800
aim to solve it.

1859
01:41:39.800 --> 01:41:41.680
And so it is really fun.

1860
01:41:41.680 --> 01:41:42.520
And that's what's so fun about it

1861
01:41:42.520 --> 01:41:45.240
is because you actually get to apply what you're learning

1862
01:41:45.240 --> 01:41:47.200
and like risk together with a team.

1863
01:41:47.200 --> 01:41:49.600
And yeah, so that's my favorite part of SQ.

1864
01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:51.800
And you've got kind of a fun little thing

1865
01:41:51.800 --> 01:41:54.200
for the expo today.

1866
01:41:54.200 --> 01:41:55.160
What is that?

1867
01:41:55.160 --> 01:41:56.400
You've got a riddle.

1868
01:41:56.400 --> 01:41:57.240
A riddle.

1869
01:41:57.240 --> 01:41:58.080
Yes, I do.

1870
01:41:58.080 --> 01:42:01.000
So you can start practicing right now.

1871
01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:03.120
Okay, tell them about that.

1872
01:42:03.120 --> 01:42:03.960
What is that?

1873
01:42:03.960 --> 01:42:08.560
Okay, so at our booth, we have a riddle.

1874
01:42:08.560 --> 01:42:11.920
And if you like, there's a place where you can email

1875
01:42:11.920 --> 01:42:13.440
and put in your answer for the riddle

1876
01:42:13.440 --> 01:42:15.560
and the answer will come back if you got it right or not.

1877
01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:18.160
And then we have a special like prize for you

1878
01:42:18.160 --> 01:42:21.560
to experience a taste of SQ if you want to join.

1879
01:42:21.560 --> 01:42:23.160
It's a series of videos.

1880
01:42:23.160 --> 01:42:26.640
And we did a riddle because in Proverbs,

1881
01:42:26.640 --> 01:42:29.720
it says like, if you want to understand wisdom,

1882
01:42:29.720 --> 01:42:30.560
what is it?

1883
01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:31.400
Help me remember the first.

1884
01:42:31.400 --> 01:42:32.240
All kinds of things.

1885
01:42:32.240 --> 01:42:33.080
Okay.

1886
01:42:33.080 --> 01:42:33.920
Wisdom and dark saying.

1887
01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:34.760
Dark saying.

1888
01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:35.600
That's the word I was looking for.

1889
01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:37.360
I knew that was your favorite for some reason.

1890
01:42:37.360 --> 01:42:41.480
Yeah, Solomon said he wrote the Proverbs

1891
01:42:41.480 --> 01:42:44.040
and one of the reasons was to understand riddles.

1892
01:42:44.040 --> 01:42:44.880
That's right.

1893
01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:45.720
Yeah.

1894
01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:46.560
Yeah.

1895
01:42:46.560 --> 01:42:48.280
So stop by, take your crack at the riddle.

1896
01:42:48.280 --> 01:42:50.800
If you get it right, it means you're officially a hobbit.

1897
01:42:50.800 --> 01:42:51.640
So.

1898
01:42:53.520 --> 01:42:54.520
Awesome.

1899
01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:57.680
Hey, let's roll the video for BSSM

1900
01:42:57.680 --> 01:43:01.760
as Haley and Chris tell us a little bit more

1901
01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:03.040
about that opportunity.

1902
01:43:03.040 --> 01:43:05.320
If you guys want to go ahead and hit the video.

1903
01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:13.480
We have a mandate to raise up a generation

1904
01:43:13.480 --> 01:43:16.960
that can openly display the raw power of God.

1905
01:43:18.800 --> 01:43:21.640
This is why you have to have an encounter with God

1906
01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:24.840
because then there's no turning back.

1907
01:43:25.760 --> 01:43:28.640
I mean, when you get so touched by God

1908
01:43:28.640 --> 01:43:32.440
and it is so undeniable that he is real,

1909
01:43:32.440 --> 01:43:33.800
it does something to you.

1910
01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:36.680
It changes the way you see life.

1911
01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:38.480
It changes your perspective.

1912
01:43:38.480 --> 01:43:39.920
It changes everything.

1913
01:43:44.480 --> 01:43:46.640
So much in my life that I relied

1914
01:43:46.640 --> 01:43:48.160
on my own spiritual knowledge,

1915
01:43:48.160 --> 01:43:50.440
on my own church experience.

1916
01:43:50.440 --> 01:43:54.080
When the Holy Spirit wanted to teach me more,

1917
01:43:54.080 --> 01:43:56.880
the same Spirit that lives in you

1918
01:43:56.880 --> 01:43:59.240
is the Spirit that raised Christ from the dead.

1919
01:44:02.440 --> 01:44:06.640
We are driven by a passion to raise up revivals

1920
01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:08.640
who will go into all the world,

1921
01:44:09.480 --> 01:44:12.520
live the gospel and release the kingdom

1922
01:44:12.520 --> 01:44:14.560
into every sphere of influence.

1923
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:21.560
A world transformed through you.

1924
01:44:23.560 --> 01:44:27.560
We believe we owe the world an encounter with God.

1925
01:44:31.040 --> 01:44:32.440
Will you say yes?

1926
01:44:38.840 --> 01:44:41.840
Well, we came to Start to School Ministry 24 years ago.

1927
01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:43.880
We start with 37 students.

1928
01:44:43.880 --> 01:44:48.880
I had a great big vision that we're gonna have 300 students.

1929
01:44:48.880 --> 01:44:50.920
We had that in the third year

1930
01:44:50.920 --> 01:44:53.040
and continued to grow and grow.

1931
01:44:53.040 --> 01:44:55.320
And two years ago, we were the largest,

1932
01:44:55.320 --> 01:44:58.000
we are the largest church in the world.

1933
01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:00.880
And we're gonna have 300 students.

1934
01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:03.320
the largest vocational school in the history of America

1935
01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:02.200
We're gonna have a lot of people

1936
01:45:02.200 --> 01:45:03.960
that are gonna be in the ministry.

1937
01:45:03.320 --> 01:45:05.480
approved by Homeland Security.

1938
01:45:03.960 --> 01:45:05.120
We're gonna have a lot of people

1939
01:45:05.120 --> 01:45:06.480
that are gonna be in the ministry.

1940
01:45:05.480 --> 01:45:10.480
And yeah, last year we graduated 127 Germans.

1941
01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:15.840
Now just to be clear, you have to know English

1942
01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:18.080
to actually be in our school.

1943
01:45:18.080 --> 01:45:21.640
So besides Americans, that was the largest contingency

1944
01:45:21.640 --> 01:45:25.240
of internationals were Germans.

1945
01:45:25.240 --> 01:45:28.640
So we had 72 nations graduate last year.

1946
01:45:28.640 --> 01:45:32.440
And I'll say this, that people come for the supernatural,

1947
01:45:32.440 --> 01:45:33.940
but they stay for the family.

1948
01:45:34.840 --> 01:45:39.320
And it's nine months long, first year's nine months long.

1949
01:45:39.320 --> 01:45:41.160
Lots and lots of our students now are beginning

1950
01:45:41.160 --> 01:45:42.840
to stay second and third year.

1951
01:45:42.840 --> 01:45:45.640
Think around 70% of our students go to second year.

1952
01:45:45.640 --> 01:45:49.000
So that's just been growing as our second year class

1953
01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:50.840
becomes more and more proficient.

1954
01:45:50.840 --> 01:45:53.680
And second year is really dedicated to leadership.

1955
01:45:53.680 --> 01:45:56.040
So we're just raising up leaders

1956
01:45:56.040 --> 01:45:58.480
to go to the darkest corners of the planet.

1957
01:45:59.160 --> 01:46:02.440
And just actually see God's kingdom

1958
01:46:02.440 --> 01:46:05.760
actually established in terrible places.

1959
01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:07.600
And so it is a journey.

1960
01:46:08.960 --> 01:46:12.760
I think the greatest commentary is three of my grandkids

1961
01:46:12.760 --> 01:46:15.640
are in school ministry or have just graduated.

1962
01:46:15.640 --> 01:46:17.720
And they have all been transformed.

1963
01:46:17.720 --> 01:46:19.880
They grew up in my house and they still wanna go

1964
01:46:19.880 --> 01:46:22.040
to our school ministry, which is profound.

1965
01:46:22.040 --> 01:46:24.680
Ben's daughter's going to our school ministry this year.

1966
01:46:24.680 --> 01:46:28.640
Dano's kids have gone to our school ministry,

1967
01:46:28.640 --> 01:46:30.360
graduated from our school ministry.

1968
01:46:30.360 --> 01:46:31.800
So I'm very proud of our school.

1969
01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:34.080
I hope that you're proud of the things that you guys do.

1970
01:46:34.080 --> 01:46:35.120
I'm proud of our teams.

1971
01:46:35.120 --> 01:46:38.600
We have, I don't know, 120 people on our staff.

1972
01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:40.080
And now we have an online school.

1973
01:46:40.080 --> 01:46:41.600
And why don't you talk about a little bit

1974
01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:43.920
about the online school and also about school?

1975
01:46:43.920 --> 01:46:46.640
Yeah, well, I have the privilege of,

1976
01:46:46.640 --> 01:46:49.080
I mean, seeing some of our pioneers of our Spanish school.

1977
01:46:49.080 --> 01:46:50.240
Chris said we have an English school.

1978
01:46:50.240 --> 01:46:51.080
We actually also have a Spanish school.

1979
01:46:51.080 --> 01:46:52.720
We have a Spanish school now.

1980
01:46:52.840 --> 01:46:54.360
Online Spanish school.

1981
01:46:57.280 --> 01:47:00.200
And so I'm looking around the room and I'm seeing alumni,

1982
01:47:00.200 --> 01:47:03.040
I'm seeing current students, I'm seeing online students.

1983
01:47:03.040 --> 01:47:05.200
So I have the privilege of leading in a school

1984
01:47:05.200 --> 01:47:07.320
that I gave up everything to come to.

1985
01:47:07.320 --> 01:47:09.040
And it's the greatest privilege of my life

1986
01:47:09.040 --> 01:47:11.720
to be able to sow into an environment that changed my life

1987
01:47:11.720 --> 01:47:14.360
and not just my personal life, my family's life

1988
01:47:14.360 --> 01:47:17.360
and my parents and my family in South Africa.

1989
01:47:17.360 --> 01:47:19.680
In the season that I had a wild encounter with the Lord,

1990
01:47:19.680 --> 01:47:21.840
my mother also encountered God.

1991
01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:23.400
My family and our Methodist Church

1992
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are now currently affecting teaching courses and classes

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from Supernatural Ways of Royalty.

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My mom teaches it in South Africa.

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And so I was in our second year on campus school

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for 10 years, serving as a revival group pastor first

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and then an overseer of the school.

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And two years ago, Chris asked if I would go over

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to pioneer our online school.

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And I wanna tell you, I wasn't super sure

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if our in-person school could fully translate online.

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I just wanna be fully honest with you.

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I didn't know if we would see

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the same measure of breakthrough

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and I have been blown away.

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We've seen people delivered,

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people filled with the Holy Spirit,

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people healed, people set free.

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In fact, I can't see Tisa now, but hi, Tisa.

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Such a fun story, Tisa is one of our online students.

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She just graduated second year.

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Tisa wouldn't be able to come to our on-campus school.

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Tisa is a revivalist, preaching the gospel

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and prophesying over people.

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When she's in the ambulance,

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she's kindly dealing with a very rare disease

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where her bones continue to grow.

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And Tisa is just full of joy in the Holy Ghost.

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One of our online students flew from Michigan

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to pick up Tisa, there she is there,

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and drove Tisa from Nevada to come to school this week.

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And this, I just wanna say,

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this isn't because we're some rare breed of humans.

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It's because the Holy Spirit lives and dwells

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with the believers.

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And we're seeing God touch and connect people

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from across the globe,

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small groups who are connecting every year now,

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meeting for a retreat together, who met online.

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So if you're like, can you connect online?

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You can connect online.

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Can God touch you online?

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God can touch you online.

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I could tell you story after story.

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I'll be really quick.

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A man named Mark, he works in the business industry,

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very high level CEO of a company.

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Mark was radically touched by the Holy Spirit

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during a worship, an online worship session.

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God starts touching him.

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He goes to his bed, he's lying in his bed,

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and he's saying, God, what is happening to me?

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And the Holy Spirit starts healing him

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from past trauma in his life and takes him into memories.

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This man is so changed by the power of the Holy Spirit.

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When his family comes home,

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they don't know what to do with him

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because he's so loving and so affectionate,

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and he had never been an affectionate father.

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His adult daughter was on the on-campus school,

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so was his wife.

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He was doing online to provide for his family.

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And they came home from school,

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and they said, what happened to you?

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And he said, still to this day,

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his kids are trying to figure out how to handle

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this loving father who wants to hug them and kiss them

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because of how God redeemed and restored his.

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history and it's changing their legacy.

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So good. So we'd love to see you come to the

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the booth. Where's our booth at? Our booth? It's in the East West room.

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That makes no sense. Come there, talk to our teams. We have a bunch of teams

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there that love to talk to you, share with you, and we also have a

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discount there. I think everything that we're doing for you guys is

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discounted. So that was kind of the deal.

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Can I say one more thing real quick? You're going to, aren't you? I am, I am.

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I'm your daughter. I know, it's a family affair.

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I just want to say this, all the things that you heard about, I think some of

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your, like, a lot of times when we're about to

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take a leap of faith, we wonder if we're ready, we wonder if it's time, we want a

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word, we want a sign, we want all of those things. I did it, I

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asked for a sign and the Lord did it for me. But I just want to tell you, if

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your heart is burning right now, if you are feeling stirred, I just want

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to encourage you, like, it is time for the body to be

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equipped. This isn't a sales pitch. This is,

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this is what we believe. We believe God wants to transform the world and we are

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doing what we know how to do, with what God's put in our hands, to say

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let us, let us equip the world. And our dream is not

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that you would come to schools. Our dream is that your life would be

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transformed by the Lord and given the tools to equip you, not to

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have a good one, two or three year experience, so that you will go

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out and make a difference in the world. And so if you need to be equipped,

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if you need to be revitalized, if you need to get caught up in the river of

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God, in the momentum of the Spirit, I believe one of these programs really

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will be for you and God will speak to you.

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And you should jump out the boat and do it because you are worth it.

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You're a valuable investment and the Lord sees you and He believes in you and

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He will back you. I'm seeing a lot of questions in the chat.

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Did you say there's a discount for the BSSM? There is a discount. Okay.

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For first year. For first year. Okay. And guys, there is an online expo as well.

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You guys are going to be very much a part. We have prepared opportunities for

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you to meet with a live person. A live person. Yes. We have live people out

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there. We're not using robots anymore. Well, we can do. Download the robots.

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Yeah. And also, you know, we do trainings with dead people sometimes. Yeah.

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The resurrection thing. But anyway. Oh, he's leaving me. Okay. So I know the

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question is, which one should I do? Hey, listen, we're all for each other.

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Like, these are just different expressions of the same community, of the

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same heart, the same values. And if something resonates with you, then

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check it out. So we wanted to create an opportunity because, again,

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usually after School of the Prophets, there are a dozen questions about what's

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next or how do I connect or how do I get more? And we just wanted to provide an

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opportunity for you to explore that a little bit. So we're going to break

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early today. Okay. And you're going to be able to go to the expo both online or

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here on campus, just down the hall in the East West room. Check it out and then go

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have your lunch and we will be back at somebody help me. I know the sessions at

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two. So there's probably a giveaway at one forty five. I'm guessing I'm going to

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go with that. All right. So be blessed. Enjoy the expo. Have a great lunch and we

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will see you for the closing sessions and impartation.