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Carrie or Kay, anything you would love to say as far as like, boom, golden nugget, life

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mind altering information, even on patents, even on earlier today, so far?

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Well, I missed today.

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So I was out.

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I have booked myself a ticket to Paris and I'm leaving on Tuesday.

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And so I really am, I'm like running crazy trying to get myself together.

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I have a, I did my MBA in Fontainebleau, just south of Paris and 25 years ago.

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So I am flying over for the reunion that's next week and then I'm going to Italy.

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So I will be starting my tours.

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So I'm going to go do the leg work for a couple of tours that I'm going to have coming

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up, shopping tours, all kinds of fun stuff.

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So yeah, go ahead.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm just saying I missed tonight, unfortunately.

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Okay.

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Well, I will say one thing that they came out over.

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I mean, all of it's been mind blowing and I'm so glad to be doing this.

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You know, I think anytime we have good ideas, we need to know how to protect them.

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So, but I thought one thing that really came out for me was when he was talking about registering

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the trademark and there was a big question about what name are you going to put it in?

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And that's something that I've tripped up before when I go to do a business or I go

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to do a website and I go to pay for it.

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It's like, well, wait, who's paying for this and whose name is it in?

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And so I think those sort of preliminary questions are always good to begin to think

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about even before you have the great idea so that you know how to structure yourself.

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Because if you structure yourself, then you can have a good foundation and, you know,

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don't have to, you know, tread water or try to try to do the backstroke back to where

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you started.

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So, but it's all been so good.

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Like really, that's, it's just been really, really interesting.

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Not scary.

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You know, I mean, I guess in some ways you might, you might say, oh, it's, it's scary,

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but no, it's, it's a good to be able to protect ourselves.

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So, so great.

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Great.

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Thank you guys for doing this.

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You're welcome.

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You're going to love the replay tonight.

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You're going to hear more from, we had some testimonies from other people and Peter's

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here.

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So I'll let him keep speaking to that.

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Okay.

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Hey, how's everybody doing?

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Good.

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Good.

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Good.

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Wow.

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There's less people today.

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That's interesting.

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Let me see.

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Okay.

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I see Carrie.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Cool.

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Peter, did you hear what she just said about like the filing?

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No, no, no, I didn't.

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I just got back into here.

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So I was going to add, Carrie just brought up a great point.

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She said she loved that nugget, you know, you explained about, you know, what name or

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entity you file a trademark in.

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And, you know, you've said many times, I don't remember you saying this the other day, like,

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you know, when you file, like if you have a friend or like your partnerships, you know,

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you talked about like, you know, filing a trademark and who owns it, like if you have

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the business owner, but then you split your business, who still owns that intellectual

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property.

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So it depends on, it depends on what you did with it in the first place.

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So, and it also depends on the type of intellectual property.

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So if it's a patent, the inventors have all the rights to the patents, right?

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So all the rights invest in the original inventors, unless they assign all right title interest

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over to a company, same thing with like copyrights, copyrights are in the name of the artists.

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And then for trademarks, it's the one who actually creates the trademark work.

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But if you, if you assign all right title and interest, let's say there's two individuals

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that work on a patent work, right?

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And they file a patent and they assign all right title and interest to the company.

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I'm going to tell you a situation that actually happened, real life situation that became

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a big problem.

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But after I explain this to you, if you assign all right title and interest to the company

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and the two individuals leave, the company still owns it, if the company splits, then

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in the merger or acquisition or in whatever, whatever way that the company ends up splitting,

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as opposed to a merger and acquisition, when somebody comes in and takes the company, if

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it splits, then in the agreement, there's going to be a condition that talks about intellectual

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property.

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You'll see it in there.

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They'll say, this is what happens to the assets.

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It's very specific because IP.

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has tremendous value.

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The interesting thing about IP though,

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is that you may believe that your patent

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is worth $10 million.

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I may believe it's worth $20,000.

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So it's very much a product of the individual,

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but then also the market.

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Like is most of the market looking at that technology?

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If they are high value, like high, high, high value.

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And then the other thing you look at

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is what's the norm for licensing the technology?

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Like what's the normal royalty rate?

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Like in the electronics industry, it might be 2%,

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but in the licensing of, let's say like a trademark,

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it might be 6%.

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Like it depends upon the specific industry

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and what's being licensed.

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So you have to kind of look in detail.

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So let me tell you a little story about what happened.

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These three individuals come into my office in Boston

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and they have this new business they want to form.

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Now the brainiac, like the technological brainiac

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is over there and he, let's say his name is Mark.

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Well, let's say it's Susan.

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So let's say it's Susan.

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Susan is the brainiac.

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She's the one who created the technology.

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Then Mark is the finance guy.

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And then David is the connections guy.

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Right?

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So they all kind of come together

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and they build this company.

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Now, Susan, again, is the brainiac.

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So they go forward, they build this company.

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And in the time of when they start to build the company,

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I asked them, what are you going to do

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about the legal rights of the IP?

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They say, well, Susan's smart.

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Like she's the inventor.

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So everything should be in her name.

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I say, hold it.

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Let me ask you a question.

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Am I representing you as individuals

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or am I representing the company?

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Cause if I'm representing the company,

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what you just said is the worst thing

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you could ever do ever.

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And they, I'm telling you, I'm not even kidding.

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Like, this is what they say to me.

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You don't understand.

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We've been friends for 15 years.

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Like they're, her kids hang out with my kids.

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Like, you know, we went to college together,

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blah, blah, blah.

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I'm like, it sounds like white noise to me.

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None of that matters.

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I say back to them, that's great.

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I hope your relationships continue for all eternity.

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I don't care.

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Here's my question to you.

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If Susan all of a sudden says,

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hey, I've got a better opportunity somewhere else.

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And Susan, not saying anything bad about you, Susan,

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but Susan says, I'm going to go take that opportunity

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cause they're giving me a $10 million bonus, right?

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Susan owns the IP.

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So that means the company owns nothing.

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How exactly do you propose to continue using this technology

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if the owner of the technology just left?

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And Susan jumps out, no, that'll never happen.

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No, what are you kidding me?

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Like, that would be corrupt.

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I would never do anything like that.

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No way.

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I'm like, so I mean, I went at them like twice,

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viciously I went at them.

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Now this is a new client.

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Like I'm pushing, I'm like, guys,

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you have to make sure it's assigned to the company.

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No, Susan won't leave.

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We're best friends.

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We have tea parties on the weekend.

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We're best friends.

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I mean, I'm obviously exaggerating.

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Well, what happens?

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Three years later, Susan has a phone call.

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Hey, when we created things, everything's in my name, right?

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I can't answer that question.

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Well, why can't you answer the question?

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You represent me.

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I said, no, I represent the company

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and I know why you're asking that question.

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I can't answer that question.

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And what you need to do is have a board meeting right now

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to talk with the other two.

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I'm not gonna do that.

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I'm thinking I'm gonna go out and do my own thing.

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There it is.

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The company crashed, crashed.

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Successful company crashed because she held all the IP.

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Now it wasn't a woman named Susan, it was actually a guy.

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But the whole point was you gotta be careful

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who owns the IP.

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It's one of the most important things.

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And here's the interesting thing, in a patent world,

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each inventor has a 100% interest in the IP.

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That makes no sense.

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Like when you think about it, if I have a bicycle and Carrie

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like we both, like if I have a bicycle

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and I give it to Carrie, like either I own it

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or she owns it, like she now has it, it's hers, right?

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Well, what if I had a bicycle

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and both Carrie and I owned it 100%?

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Like, it's kind of a weird thought pattern.

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But if you have two inventors.

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You have two people with a 100% interest.

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That should equal 200%,

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but according to the government, it doesn't.

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100 plus 100 equals 100, apparently.

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That's how the government works.

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So you gotta be careful.

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So now if you, you know, Kay over here, who's awesome,

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Kay decides to make a deal with Catherine,

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who's also awesome, and they both create a new invention,

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but then Kay says, man,

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this company's offering me $5 million for it.

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I'm selling my IP rights.

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She outright sells her shares of the patent

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over to ABC Corporation.

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And Catherine says, you can't do that.

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Yes, you can.

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She has 100% interest.

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She just sold her interest in the IP to another corporation.

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And Catherine's saying, well, hold it.

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I don't wanna build animosity here, guys.

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But, you know, Catherine's saying,

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but that's not fair.

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Like that was our arch rival.

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That was our competition.

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And Kay's like, yeah, you know what?

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Shoot me a memo.

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I'm in Puerto Rico right now,

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and there's a guy named Tatu

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who's giving me a pina colada.

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I really can't deal with this right now.

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Like, you know, speak to them.

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I just, I'm a little busy.

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You know, the waves are really crashing loud.

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I can't hear you.

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What, what, what?

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And she can do that legally.

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That's why you have to be careful

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when you have more than one person

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who creates an invention.

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Each person has 100% interest,

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and they can do whatever they want with their interests.

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So you wanna try to create a deal

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before you file a patent.

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This is why when I file patents for large corporations,

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I make sure that the patents are assigned

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before I file a patent.

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And if I see an inventor really pushing

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for the patent to be filed,

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it makes me wonder why are you pushing so hard

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for that patent to be filed immediately

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when you're no longer with the educational institution?

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It makes me kind of wonder,

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are they gonna sell that right to the company

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that they're now with?

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So I'm always thinking about these things,

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and I kind of train you guys on that too.

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So does that, that's a lot of information,

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but does that answer your question, Carrie?

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Yeah, no, I didn't really have a question,

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but oh, that's awesome.

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For me, it was just very striking,

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the idea that, what you're saying,

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think about these things before,

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even before you get the great idea,

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begin to already think

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of how are you gonna structure yourself,

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your company, your legal rights, everything,

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before you get to that moment

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where you're up against the wall

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and have to make a quick decision.

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Absolutely.

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So that's really good.

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Yeah, just-

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Yeah, 100%, you nailed it.

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I mean, it's such an important issue,

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and most people don't think about it,

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and then they get in trouble,

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and then they try to fix it,

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and that's when I make a lot of money.

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It's like, because people are trying to fix

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a really bad situation,

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and many times I can come up with something,

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but in the area of inventorship, very hard to fix.

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Not to really get into it,

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but I'm just wondering,

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does who pays for the invention also lend into it?

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I'm thinking like pharmaceutical companies, and-

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That's a great question.

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When you get a lot of financial interest in something,

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even if you didn't do it,

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there's gotta be some weight that goes with that,

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I would think.

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No. Not a penny.

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Not a penny, okay.

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Not a penny, which is kind of,

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you would think, oh, that's not fair.

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Like, you know, the company spells,

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here, put it this way.

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Company spends $12,000 on a patent application.

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I'm the inventor.

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Well, thank you for spending $12,000

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on a patent application.

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It's my patent.

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Well, no, I wasn't actually thinking about the application.

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I was thinking about the process

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to get to the development of the patent.

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So you mean like the manufacturing

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and development of the technology?

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Yeah, or if somebody's, you know,

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if I'm an inventor and somebody lends me the money

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so that I can stay at home and do my research,

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and then I invent it, and then I go and put it in my name,

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do they not have some kind of legal right

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to say we paid for it?

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No, they have no rights.

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Unless there was some kind of contractual agreement.

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And in fact, here's the interesting part.

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This will kind of blow your mind.

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The interesting part is that the company

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was infringing your patent the entire time.

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When they manufactured it, when they distributed it,

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those are two of the rights for a patent application,

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for a patent.

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But you have no legal rights

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until the patent actually issues.

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But when the patent issues,

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that manufacturing that was done by the company,

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the distribution, the sales,

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those were all infringement of the patent.

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So the fact that they spent the money, doesn't matter.

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There is something that's a curious area of the law.

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The way it works is,

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it really falls into the area of like employee agreements.

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So let's say you have a company and somebody.

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is creating an invention at your company while being paid, right,

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by you using your equipment, and the thing that's created is

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aligned with what your company does, then people will often

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argue that that was that actually belongs to the company,

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because it was created on their time, why the person was hired

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using their equipment, you know, it looks at all these different

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aspects of it, the way to make sure you don't run into a

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violation of that is make sure you have an employee agreement.

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So the employee agreement spells out anything made, you know,

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made in the following technology technological area while on

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company time, or using company equipment will be the will be

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owned by the corporation. And you have an obligation to assign

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our right title and interest to the company when the company

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asks you to sign that document. Like that should be in your

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employee agreement. A lot of people don't do that. And then

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they get in a lot of trouble.

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Okay, well, thank you.

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Sure, sure. So let me let me start here. Or let me continue

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here. Does anybody have any questions about the protection

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portal? Because this is VIP, you guys have been getting like

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probably a quarter of what the portal is, because we've been

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answering questions live, emailing questions interacting,

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that's a good piece of what the portal is like. Anybody have any

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questions on what it's like or what you do or what's provided

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or anything like that? So I check first.

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I wasn't here. So I don't know what you're talking about. But I

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will go back to the replay. So just ignore me.

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No problem. Yeah, you'll see it in the replay. I'll touch base

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on it tomorrow quickly. So people, you know, if anybody has

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any questions, I can answer questions. All right. Well, you

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have to unmute. I can't hear you.

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Well, I'm muted back. I was just I left you a note that she

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wasn't the only one who missed it. So that you covered it all

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though. Because they're like Addison's here, but he wasn't

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here earlier. And so before Oh, was Mandy there? Mandy, were

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you there?

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No, I wasn't. I wasn't sharing there. It looks like multiple

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people weren't there. So I can take for those. I'm sorry. You

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mean it? I was there.

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You were there. Peter, would you mind putting up the sheet that

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has like, yeah, let's do that now. Do you guys mind if I take

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just five minutes to summarize it for them? Are you guys okay?

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Okay, cool. Yeah, I just want to honor you guys that were there.

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I don't want to, you know, I don't want to be rude. I don't

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we're there. I don't want to, you know, kind of take advantage

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of you. Alright, so let me do this. Back up, back up, back up,

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back up, back up, back up, back up, back up. Right. They are.

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Right. They are. Alright, share my screen. And here we go. Share

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screen. Present. Pell. Okay. Alright, so what I'm offering to

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all of you is something that's very unique does not exist. And

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it's my honor to actually offer this to you. It's called the

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protection portal. I created this because what I realized was

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first of all, what you've learned in IP is a fraction of

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what actually is involved in intellectual property. There's a

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lot of areas of IP. There's a lot deeper to go. And as you

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start to implement things within your company, you're going to

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have a lot of questions, a lot of questions, because I know

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this, because I get DMS every single day, with people asking

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questions who are not in the portal. And so what the

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protection portal does is it gives you an environment to

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continue to grow, but not only to continue to grow, but not

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spend ridiculous amounts of money while you're growing.

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Okay, that's really important. So I provide a number of

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features in the protection portal. So I'm going to go

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through them all here. The first one is obviously I am a

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patent trademark, copyright and trade secret attorney, I do

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litigation prosecution. I'm also an adjunct professor of

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intellectual property law. So you'll get access to me

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obviously, every month for an hour and a half, I will go live.

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All right, you get to email me during the month any of your

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questions similar like what you do in VIP, you go into a private

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Facebook group, during that hour and a half, you're in a

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network of individuals that are dedicated to this, like these

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are people that are in the portal. Some people have been in

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for nine months, other six, some three, it fluctuates based on,

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you know, which challenge they entered in. And you're in that

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network. These are people that are implementing what you're

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actually learning right now.

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They're implementing a real life.

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And on top of that, they're asking questions

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based on their implementation.

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So you get to learn.

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Not only do you get to ask your own questions,

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but then by hearing the questions of others

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and the answers, you're going to advance and excel so fast.

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I mean, a lot of the Protection Portal people, honestly,

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are building companies already.

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They're top level coaches already.

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They're publishing in the United States and foreign countries.

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Like, they're growing very fast.

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And a portion of the reason for that is the Protection Portal.

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Because they're gaining access to data very fast

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without spending a lot on lawyers.

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Let me show you some other of the features here.

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There's a number of features, but I'll show you

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some of them one by one.

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So number one is the monthly trainings.

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You'll get for an hour and a half every single month,

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you get to email me your questions.

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And I will give you guidance.

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No legal advice, but I will give you guidance.

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Next.

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You also get access to something that's very unique.

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And I do this based on specific situations.

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Let's say that you're trying to sell product in Canada.

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And you want to open up a distribution plant in Canada,

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but you need to talk to an attorney in Canada

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because you want to file trademarks in Canada.

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So you go, I don't know anybody in Canada.

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I do.

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I know lawyers in every single country that you can think of.

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From Malaysia, to Indonesia, to China, to Japan, to Taiwan,

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to Germany, you name it.

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I have agents in every country in the world.

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I haven't been stumped yet.

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Maybe that'll change one day.

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But anyways, in each scenario, I analyze

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whether or not a certain attorney

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will be a good fit for you.

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And then I share based on that.

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So I've introduced, like, I've introduced

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based on that.

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So I've introduced, like, Paula Clancy in Canada.

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And she's supporting a number of people within the portal

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already.

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Another thing that you get, obviously,

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is the review of the emails.

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I continue reviewing the emails and go over the responses

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to those questions live during the group.

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Now, those are also recorded.

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The Protection Portal sessions are also recorded.

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So you'll see you actually have access to that as well.

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The value of that alone, over 18 hours

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of training from an attorney who bills us $600 an hour,

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you can imagine how much value there is in that.

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Four hours with me, essentially, is

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going to end up being about the equivalent of what

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something like this would cost.

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It's a year access.

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And the cost for this is $24.95, one payment,

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or three payments of $9.95.

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I'd say 70% to 80% of the people just pay it off right away.

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And they call it an educational expense for the company.

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And they're done.

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And now they have access continually to this.

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Now, there's more.

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But wait, there's more.

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So I had to do that.

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The next thing that I'm throwing in

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is because a number of you have been doing trademark searches

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and you have questions on it.

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So what I'm throwing in for you also

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is a one live training in a group

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where you're going to be able to bring in your own trademarks

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and do searches for it.

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And I'm going to pull you into a room

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while you're working there with the group.

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And I'm coaching people on how to do

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a search in way more detail.

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I'm going to pull you into a separate room

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individually and kind of look at what you're doing

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and give you some guidance and kind of say, all right,

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you're missing the phonetic equivalence

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or you're searching in this class.

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Maybe you should search in that class instead.

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Maybe look at this.

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Look at that.

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I'll give you more guidance.

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Now, that's not legal advice because I'm really just showing

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you the USPTO website.

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But I'm fine tuning it to your circumstances to help you out.

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So I'm adding that.

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The other thing that I'm adding is

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something that's very unique.

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I don't know that I'm going to keep doing this forever

512
00:24:10.360 --> 00:24:14.080
because there is a cost to me every single year of $10,000

513
00:24:14.080 --> 00:24:14.680
for doing this.

514
00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:18.080
But I'm doing this because I know this helps the people.

515
00:24:18.080 --> 00:24:21.240
And so I'm going to share with you.

516
00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:23.760
What do we end up calling this finally, Rae?

517
00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:27.680
Say that again?

518
00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:29.840
What do we end up calling this?

519
00:24:29.840 --> 00:24:31.680
We actually came up with a really cool name.

520
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:32.280
There was like-

521
00:24:32.280 --> 00:24:33.960
Oh, it is the members portal.

522
00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:35.240
The members portal, right.

523
00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:36.480
It is the members portal.

524
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:38.440
OK, because I always thought protection portal.

525
00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:40.560
But we did call it finally the members portal.

526
00:24:40.560 --> 00:24:41.080
All right.

527
00:24:41.080 --> 00:24:42.920
Sorry, I was answering a message on Facebook

528
00:24:43.080 --> 00:24:44.040
from one of our attendants.

529
00:24:44.040 --> 00:24:44.680
Don't worry about it.

530
00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:45.160
Don't worry about it.

531
00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:45.680
All right.

532
00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:48.320
So this is called the members portal.

533
00:24:48.320 --> 00:24:52.120
Now, in here, all the videos from all the challenges

534
00:24:52.120 --> 00:24:56.200
that you've been in and all the VIP sessions are listed.

535
00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:58.800
So like the people in April, they

536
00:24:58.800 --> 00:25:01.400
have all the challenges.

537
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.880
which is every single day here, and the VIPs

538
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:05.880
for every single day here.

539
00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:09.600
There was actually a bonus session as well on that one.

540
00:25:09.600 --> 00:25:15.600
So you'll see, you will receive your own unique dial-in,

541
00:25:15.600 --> 00:25:20.040
your own log-in, and you will be the only one who has access.

542
00:25:20.040 --> 00:25:22.520
You can't give access to anybody else.

543
00:25:22.520 --> 00:25:26.640
And the videos that are aligned with what you experienced,

544
00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:29.120
so you were in the September challenge,

545
00:25:29.120 --> 00:25:31.560
you'll see September 2020.

546
00:25:31.560 --> 00:25:32.920
Then it'll say main sessions.

547
00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:34.560
All the days will be listed.

548
00:25:34.560 --> 00:25:36.520
And then the VIP, all the days will

549
00:25:36.520 --> 00:25:38.640
be listed for that as well.

550
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:42.360
There's also some bonus material I throw in there for you.

551
00:25:42.360 --> 00:25:45.280
You only have access to your challenge.

552
00:25:45.280 --> 00:25:47.720
You won't have access to every single other challenge.

553
00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:50.360
There's another level that's coming

554
00:25:50.360 --> 00:25:52.840
that'll give access to everything

555
00:25:52.840 --> 00:25:54.960
that people have been asking about because they've

556
00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:57.000
been applying things, and they say, well, I want some of this.

557
00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:57.880
I want that.

558
00:25:57.880 --> 00:25:59.440
So I created another level.

559
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:01.280
You don't need to worry about that for now.

560
00:26:01.280 --> 00:26:03.680
You just want to get in first.

561
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.680
All right, so now within this, if you click on the videos,

562
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.000
you can actually see there's your video.

563
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:14.720
And you can watch the videos.

564
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:17.720
So and on the left side, you'll see each day.

565
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:19.880
So you can click on them and access them.

566
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:22.320
Each day is there, one by one.

567
00:26:22.320 --> 00:26:24.040
So it's very easy to access.

568
00:26:24.040 --> 00:26:25.760
You can write your own comments.

569
00:26:25.800 --> 00:26:28.280
Inside this, groups can be made.

570
00:26:28.280 --> 00:26:30.840
There's all sorts of really fun things you can do in here.

571
00:26:30.840 --> 00:26:35.680
All right, I think that's, I know that's enough.

572
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:37.400
I'm trying to think if that's it, though.

573
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:38.680
I think that's pretty much it.

574
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:40.560
There's also one more, and I'm not

575
00:26:40.560 --> 00:26:42.600
sure why, you have limited access, Peter.

576
00:26:42.600 --> 00:26:44.160
I'll go fix that.

577
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:46.400
But there's also supportive guides and information

578
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:49.320
where we drop, like the way he drops things in the Facebook

579
00:26:49.320 --> 00:26:50.040
group.

580
00:26:50.040 --> 00:26:51.760
It should be on the bottom, but for some reason.

581
00:26:51.760 --> 00:26:54.040
Yeah, there it is, supportive guides and information.

582
00:26:54.040 --> 00:26:55.680
Yeah, and some bonus materials there.

583
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:58.840
So you'll see that as well.

584
00:26:58.840 --> 00:27:01.760
Right, so the cost for that is $24.95,

585
00:27:01.760 --> 00:27:04.600
one payment or three payments of $9.95.

586
00:27:04.600 --> 00:27:06.640
The offer is open till Sunday.

587
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:07.520
That's it.

588
00:27:07.520 --> 00:27:12.000
Midnight Sunday, I close the shop.

589
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:13.680
Quite frankly, because we end up starting

590
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.560
to get ready for the next challenge.

591
00:27:15.560 --> 00:27:19.080
And separate from that, the cost is going up.

592
00:27:19.080 --> 00:27:21.800
But there's another part to this that I did add,

593
00:27:21.800 --> 00:27:25.240
which is anybody who is in the protection portal

594
00:27:25.280 --> 00:27:27.560
actually has access to any challenge

595
00:27:27.560 --> 00:27:31.000
in the future for the Protect Your Idea challenge.

596
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.680
So let's say in two months, you need a refresher.

597
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:34.880
You can jump in for free.

598
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:36.960
You don't have to come and pay again.

599
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.160
All right, a lot of people make it

600
00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:42.040
so you have to pay every time you jump in a challenge.

601
00:27:42.040 --> 00:27:43.800
If you're in the portal, you're committed.

602
00:27:43.800 --> 00:27:45.520
If you're committed, I'm committed to you.

603
00:27:45.520 --> 00:27:46.480
Let's put it that way.

604
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:50.280
So then if you're committed, it's all taken care of.

605
00:27:50.280 --> 00:27:52.720
You don't have to pay again while you're

606
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:54.520
a member of the portal, OK?

607
00:27:54.600 --> 00:27:55.920
Does that sound good?

608
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:56.920
Sounds good to you guys?

609
00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:58.400
All right, awesome, yeah.

610
00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:01.840
If you have any questions on that, feel free to ask now

611
00:28:01.840 --> 00:28:06.080
or you can ask tomorrow.

612
00:28:06.080 --> 00:28:09.120
Oh, Larissa already dropped the link, OK.

613
00:28:09.120 --> 00:28:11.760
All right, so the link is there for you.

614
00:28:11.760 --> 00:28:15.720
I would jump in soon because we're going to start

615
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:20.480
publishing material pretty fast and you'll have access

616
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:22.680
to a lot of stuff you're going to want.

617
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:24.240
So all right, what is this?

618
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:30.040
Don't we put the monthly meetings in the member portal

619
00:28:30.040 --> 00:28:30.520
too?

620
00:28:30.520 --> 00:28:31.600
Yeah, we do.

621
00:28:31.600 --> 00:28:33.720
Yeah, that's being uploaded as well.

622
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:34.800
So good point.

623
00:28:34.800 --> 00:28:39.320
All right, so every time that we do a Protection Portal session

624
00:28:39.320 --> 00:28:41.200
on the month, it's recorded.

625
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:43.760
And then that's going to be uploaded as well.

626
00:28:43.760 --> 00:28:45.160
So let's say you missed something.

627
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.120
What you can do is email your questions

628
00:28:47.120 --> 00:28:49.720
and then it'll be reviewed during the session

629
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:52.760
and you'll get your answers even though you're not there.

630
00:28:52.760 --> 00:28:54.320
That's what some people do as well

631
00:28:54.320 --> 00:28:57.560
because there's like 70 members or something like that

632
00:28:57.560 --> 00:28:59.600
already in the portal.

633
00:28:59.600 --> 00:29:01.560
And so you'll get different groups

634
00:29:01.560 --> 00:29:03.680
that will come in at different times.

635
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:08.160
Sometimes you'll see 15 people, other times you see 25,

636
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:09.840
other times you see seven.

637
00:29:09.840 --> 00:29:11.800
It depends on what's going on.

638
00:29:11.800 --> 00:29:13.560
Yes, Catherine.

639
00:29:13.560 --> 00:29:18.560
So my question is, in the monthly meetings

640
00:29:18.560 --> 00:29:21.920
that are recorded, do we have access

641
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.880
to the prior monthly meetings before we joined?

642
00:29:27.520 --> 00:29:30.960
I know that we only have, at this point,

643
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:38.080
only have access to the challenges and the VIP sessions

644
00:29:38.080 --> 00:29:41.200
that we ourselves took part in.

645
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:46.080
But for the monthly sessions being part of the members

646
00:29:46.080 --> 00:29:49.360
portal, it starts.

647
00:29:49.360 --> 00:29:51.280
The way it works is it starts from when

648
00:29:51.280 --> 00:29:53.680
you start going forward.

649
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:59.000
So all the videos from, let's say you start tomorrow,

650
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.040
the very next.

651
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.960
Portal, Ashley, you know what I'll do?

652
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.840
Ray, just, I know I'm making your job harder.

653
00:30:06.840 --> 00:30:07.680
I always know when you go, Ray.

654
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:08.840
I know, I'm sorry.

655
00:30:08.840 --> 00:30:10.680
I say your name and all of a sudden you cringe.

656
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:12.560
You're like, oh, what's he doing now?

657
00:30:12.560 --> 00:30:14.000
No, like, yeah, let's listen.

658
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:16.880
Sorry, this is what I want to do.

659
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:17.720
It's my pleasure.

660
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:18.540
What can we do for that?

661
00:30:18.540 --> 00:30:21.600
The session that we did on Wednesday was really powerful.

662
00:30:21.600 --> 00:30:23.380
Like the one that we had this week,

663
00:30:23.380 --> 00:30:25.640
that was one of the most powerful ones we've done.

664
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:29.880
So what I want to do is anybody who joins the portal,

665
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.880
I want that session included in the video.

666
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.520
So they're going to get, not only going forward,

667
00:30:37.520 --> 00:30:38.880
they get that session.

668
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.160
Cause that session, there's people that were in the session

669
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:43.760
that are like, I need the video now.

670
00:30:43.760 --> 00:30:46.640
Cause that was a very powerful session.

671
00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:48.520
So it went really deep.

672
00:30:48.520 --> 00:30:49.840
That one went really deep.

673
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:52.760
And so, yeah, so that's what I'll do.

674
00:30:52.760 --> 00:30:53.960
Sorry, Ray.

675
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:54.960
Don't apologize.

676
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:55.780
It's my pleasure.

677
00:30:55.780 --> 00:30:56.620
That's what we're here to do.

678
00:30:56.620 --> 00:30:58.120
To prepare them and get them set up.

679
00:30:58.120 --> 00:31:00.720
So I'm actually delighted when you get all generous stuff.

680
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:02.720
So when you set up the new bracket

681
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:06.480
for this challenge for September,

682
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:09.360
take that one video and throw it into September

683
00:31:09.360 --> 00:31:13.120
as well as in the other ones, okay?

684
00:31:13.120 --> 00:31:14.440
Thank you very much, Ray.

685
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:15.280
Appreciate that.

686
00:31:15.280 --> 00:31:17.600
Yeah, so I'll throw in that one for you.

687
00:31:17.600 --> 00:31:19.760
So it'll be from this month going forward.

688
00:31:19.760 --> 00:31:23.240
So you'll get this challenge, this session going forward.

689
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:24.080
Okay.

690
00:31:24.080 --> 00:31:24.920
Thank you.

691
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:26.320
Let's see.

692
00:31:26.320 --> 00:31:27.840
Baker's dozen, yay.

693
00:31:28.560 --> 00:31:29.400
I didn't even think of that.

694
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:30.240
That's hilarious.

695
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:31.960
It is a baker's dozen.

696
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:33.960
13, that's very good.

697
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:35.480
All right, were there any other questions?

698
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:36.480
Yeah, that's right, Larissa.

699
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:41.040
It is literally less than $210 a month, which is ridiculous.

700
00:31:41.040 --> 00:31:42.640
That's, yeah.

701
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:44.840
I didn't see any other questions.

702
00:31:44.840 --> 00:31:47.480
Oh, these are all your questions, Larissa.

703
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:48.360
Okay.

704
00:31:48.360 --> 00:31:49.200
I think we're done.

705
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:50.440
Is there another Larissa?

706
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:52.840
Cause I'm like not asking you any more questions.

707
00:31:52.840 --> 00:31:53.680
I said that one.

708
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:54.520
I'm scrolling up.

709
00:31:54.520 --> 00:31:55.920
I was scrolling up.

710
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:56.760
All right.

711
00:31:56.760 --> 00:31:58.080
So this is what I want to do.

712
00:31:58.080 --> 00:32:00.320
I want to see if you guys have any,

713
00:32:00.320 --> 00:32:02.800
like if any of you have a specific question.

714
00:32:02.800 --> 00:32:04.000
Okay.

715
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:04.840
Okay, go ahead.

716
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:08.000
Yeah.

717
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:08.880
Thanks, Peter.

718
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:10.040
My question is,

719
00:32:10.040 --> 00:32:13.840
and I hope I'm not the only one who's like thinking this.

720
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:18.840
What if we're ready to trademark something now

721
00:32:18.840 --> 00:32:21.440
and we need legal advice.

722
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.680
I keep hearing that this is not legal advice.

723
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:27.840
Like, I'm like, well, I need legal advice.

724
00:32:27.840 --> 00:32:32.840
I needed a lawyer to help me trademark one of our companies

725
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:34.800
and all that stuff.

726
00:32:34.800 --> 00:32:37.920
So do I obviously like, okay,

727
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:39.280
putting the money into the portal

728
00:32:39.280 --> 00:32:41.600
or put the money into trademark process?

729
00:32:41.600 --> 00:32:43.800
Like, you know.

730
00:32:43.800 --> 00:32:45.800
Yeah, it's a valid question.

731
00:32:45.800 --> 00:32:48.040
This is what I would say is, first of all,

732
00:32:48.040 --> 00:32:51.400
the people that are in the portal get deference for me.

733
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:56.680
Because like I represent a good number

734
00:32:56.840 --> 00:32:57.920
of different clients, right?

735
00:32:57.920 --> 00:32:59.200
But the people that are in the portal,

736
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:00.840
I always give them the option.

737
00:33:00.840 --> 00:33:03.640
If they want to work with me, I make time for them.

738
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:07.600
I just, just because they trust me.

739
00:33:07.600 --> 00:33:09.080
And so we've built a good rapport.

740
00:33:09.080 --> 00:33:10.120
So I try to do that.

741
00:33:11.040 --> 00:33:12.600
Now, if you have certain trademarks

742
00:33:12.600 --> 00:33:14.760
that you want to follow and things like that,

743
00:33:14.760 --> 00:33:17.160
if you use the tools that I've showed you,

744
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:20.240
your costs for following a trademark should be extremely low.

745
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.520
If you know, if you follow what I've trained you on,

746
00:33:24.520 --> 00:33:26.920
on grab a specimen, you know,

747
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:31.080
grab the international classification,

748
00:33:31.080 --> 00:33:32.560
the recitation of goods and services,

749
00:33:32.560 --> 00:33:35.040
and you can put all that stuff together,

750
00:33:35.040 --> 00:33:36.920
it'll be a blessing to work with you

751
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:40.280
and you could pay a really discounted rate.

752
00:33:40.280 --> 00:33:43.640
So you're not going to be spending $2,000 on a trademark,

753
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:45.520
like you'll spend like 800 bucks

754
00:33:45.520 --> 00:33:48.800
and that's including the USPTO filing fee, right?

755
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.160
Cause I've trained you on how to put it together.

756
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.040
So what I would suggest is joining the portal.

757
00:33:55.040 --> 00:33:59.160
And then as you have issues, like with whatever it is,

758
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:00.360
it's all going to be discounted.

759
00:34:00.360 --> 00:34:03.000
The other thing is anybody who was in the portal,

760
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:06.200
I don't charge, this is kind of a surprise,

761
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:07.360
but anybody who's in the portal,

762
00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:09.600
I don't actually charge my 600 bucks an hour.

763
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:13.000
I actually discounted down to $500 for them.

764
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:17.360
So it's a lower rate for the people that are in the portal,

765
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:18.960
which my law firm can't figure out.

766
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:20.480
They're like, why are these people getting discount?

767
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:21.880
And it's like, I'm the head of department.

768
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:22.920
I don't know why you're complaining.

769
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:24.159
You can't say anything anyway.

770
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:28.320
So the point, but in any case,

771
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:32.159
I would suggest if you know all this material,

772
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.000
like if you know IP, if you're great, if you're solid

773
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.400
and you have no need for further guidance,

774
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:40.679
then you may not need the portal, right?

775
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:42.960
In which case you say, look, I just need to hire a lawyer.

776
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:44.480
I already know everything, right?

777
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:45.320
That's fine.

778
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:46.800
But then there's people that are saying,

779
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:48.280
well, I'm going to be implementing these things.

780
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:49.520
I'm going to have further questions

781
00:34:49.520 --> 00:34:52.040
and I don't want to pay 600 an hour.

782
00:34:52.040 --> 00:34:54.600
Like I want to have a year's worth of guidance

783
00:34:54.600 --> 00:34:59.080
from an attorney for essentially the cost of four hours

784
00:34:59.080 --> 00:35:00.000
with an attorney.

785
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.940
That's a remarkable value.

786
00:35:02.940 --> 00:35:05.140
But obviously if you have a bootstrap company

787
00:35:05.140 --> 00:35:09.880
and you only have $3,000 to invest in IP,

788
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:11.420
then you gotta make a business decision.

789
00:35:11.420 --> 00:35:12.900
What's best for the company?

790
00:35:12.900 --> 00:35:15.260
Either way, it would be my honor to serve you

791
00:35:15.260 --> 00:35:19.900
any way I can serve you, be that through the portal,

792
00:35:19.900 --> 00:35:24.720
be that legally, whatever, I'm fine with either.

793
00:35:24.720 --> 00:35:28.460
But what I can tell you is that the majority of the people,

794
00:35:28.500 --> 00:35:29.900
yeah, the majority of the people

795
00:35:29.900 --> 00:35:32.640
that end up starting to do the stuff on the side

796
00:35:32.640 --> 00:35:34.080
end up wishing they were in the portal

797
00:35:34.080 --> 00:35:35.940
because it would decrease their costs.

798
00:35:37.300 --> 00:35:38.900
So does that help?

799
00:35:38.900 --> 00:35:40.820
I'm not trying to brainwash you to join it.

800
00:35:40.820 --> 00:35:41.820
I'm just trying to give you-

801
00:35:41.820 --> 00:35:44.900
Oh yeah, it's definitely helpful.

802
00:35:44.900 --> 00:35:49.900
And I know you discussed patents in the main session.

803
00:35:50.580 --> 00:35:52.180
The other question that I had

804
00:35:52.180 --> 00:35:55.860
has something to do with Amazon stuff.

805
00:35:57.020 --> 00:35:57.860
We just-

806
00:35:58.620 --> 00:36:02.540
I love this stuff, eBay, Amazon, Alibaba.

807
00:36:02.540 --> 00:36:04.420
Those are like my favorite, go ahead.

808
00:36:04.420 --> 00:36:07.180
My husband and I actually have been wanting

809
00:36:07.180 --> 00:36:10.160
to start an Amazon business for a while.

810
00:36:10.160 --> 00:36:11.000
Okay.

811
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:12.700
To the other two companies.

812
00:36:12.700 --> 00:36:14.460
So if I only said yes, fine,

813
00:36:14.460 --> 00:36:16.940
I'll take on another thing for us.

814
00:36:16.940 --> 00:36:18.860
But I think the question now is,

815
00:36:18.860 --> 00:36:21.880
because in this Amazon training that we're in,

816
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:25.100
obviously trademarks and patents are being discussed

817
00:36:25.100 --> 00:36:26.660
and we haven't really gone deep.

818
00:36:26.660 --> 00:36:29.580
We literally just started this training last week.

819
00:36:29.580 --> 00:36:33.380
So, you know, protecting our copyright

820
00:36:33.380 --> 00:36:36.420
for descriptions of our products,

821
00:36:36.420 --> 00:36:38.500
or if we discover, if we find products

822
00:36:38.500 --> 00:36:39.920
that we want to improve.

823
00:36:41.260 --> 00:36:43.020
I mean, the more I'm asking this question,

824
00:36:43.020 --> 00:36:45.180
the more like this portal is sounding like,

825
00:36:45.180 --> 00:36:46.020
it makes more sense to just-

826
00:36:46.020 --> 00:36:49.060
This is why Larissa will tell you,

827
00:36:49.060 --> 00:36:52.380
like I'm not somebody that tries to push things on people.

828
00:36:52.380 --> 00:36:53.980
That's just not what I do.

829
00:36:53.980 --> 00:36:56.980
Like, it just, it feels uncomfortable if I do that.

830
00:36:56.980 --> 00:36:58.540
But when I look at people and I say,

831
00:36:58.540 --> 00:37:01.640
these people are gifted, like they're gonna grow.

832
00:37:01.640 --> 00:37:03.940
Like these people are building companies.

833
00:37:03.940 --> 00:37:04.920
They're gonna need it.

834
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:05.960
I know they're gonna need it.

835
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.260
I have no doubt.

836
00:37:07.260 --> 00:37:08.100
And so that's why,

837
00:37:08.100 --> 00:37:10.060
that's when I push a little harder to say,

838
00:37:10.060 --> 00:37:15.060
guys, honestly, within two months, you'll have paid for it.

839
00:37:16.220 --> 00:37:18.020
Oh, I didn't tell them something, right?

840
00:37:18.020 --> 00:37:19.980
I totally forgot.

841
00:37:19.980 --> 00:37:22.840
I have, remind me tomorrow to mention the affiliate program.

842
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:23.680
I didn't even-

843
00:37:24.380 --> 00:37:26.600
Oh my goodness, it's like the part of the best part.

844
00:37:26.600 --> 00:37:27.920
Okay, okay.

845
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.200
I totally forgot about this, Larissa.

846
00:37:30.200 --> 00:37:32.920
All right, so just one other thing, guys.

847
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:36.440
Anybody who's actually in the program,

848
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.200
in the protection portal,

849
00:37:38.200 --> 00:37:41.120
you actually automatically have the option

850
00:37:41.120 --> 00:37:44.600
to become an affiliate at 20% of anything

851
00:37:44.600 --> 00:37:46.620
that you refer into the program.

852
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.360
Now, just to put this in perspective,

853
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:51.440
Todd and Tamara,

854
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:52.760
I think I've cut them a check

855
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.400
for like three grand and change already.

856
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:59.300
Like, and they've paid for the portal, right?

857
00:37:59.300 --> 00:38:02.420
So if you have other people that you're referring in,

858
00:38:02.420 --> 00:38:06.000
you can get money basically sent to you.

859
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.360
And it basically pays for the portal.

860
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:10.400
If during the year you end up referring,

861
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:11.280
I'll give an example.

862
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:15.120
The challenge is 95, the VIP is 195.

863
00:38:15.120 --> 00:38:17.520
The offer is 24.95.

864
00:38:17.520 --> 00:38:21.160
That ends up being at 20%, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

865
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.000
ends up being about $560 for one person

866
00:38:25.640 --> 00:38:28.040
if they take the offer and they go through VIP.

867
00:38:28.040 --> 00:38:31.720
So the affiliate program actually helps you to pay.

868
00:38:31.720 --> 00:38:34.720
The intent of my doing that was to help you pay

869
00:38:34.720 --> 00:38:37.640
for your own membership so that you can grow

870
00:38:37.640 --> 00:38:40.920
and end up not spending a lot of money.

871
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:42.920
So I totally forgot about that, right?

872
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:43.760
Sorry.

873
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:45.400
I know, I actually have another point for Kay

874
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:48.160
to kind of help answer her question on the first one

875
00:38:48.160 --> 00:38:50.660
is that Peter just added as well

876
00:38:51.160 --> 00:38:53.500
when he was talking about the portal inclusions

877
00:38:53.500 --> 00:38:55.940
is he's going to be mentoring and guiding you

878
00:38:55.940 --> 00:38:57.100
while you're preparing

879
00:38:57.100 --> 00:38:59.420
all of your trademark application filing.

880
00:38:59.420 --> 00:39:00.940
So you're gonna get that.

881
00:39:00.940 --> 00:39:03.740
So that already brings your lawyer costs down

882
00:39:04.660 --> 00:39:05.620
and top of filing.

883
00:39:05.620 --> 00:39:08.500
And so, plus you get the year of the membership,

884
00:39:08.500 --> 00:39:11.500
plus you get the community that sharpens you up

885
00:39:11.500 --> 00:39:13.540
and keeps the success focus.

886
00:39:13.540 --> 00:39:14.500
So-

887
00:39:14.500 --> 00:39:18.260
There's one other thing for you specifically, Kay.

888
00:39:18.260 --> 00:39:19.960
If you're dealing with eBay,

889
00:39:21.420 --> 00:39:24.460
there's a lot of situations where you run into disputes

890
00:39:24.460 --> 00:39:26.580
where people are taking your trademarks

891
00:39:26.580 --> 00:39:29.500
or they're taking your logos or you're taking your artwork

892
00:39:29.500 --> 00:39:31.500
and they end up slapping it on other products

893
00:39:31.500 --> 00:39:33.900
or they just, what they do is they,

894
00:39:33.900 --> 00:39:34.780
you know, for eBay,

895
00:39:34.780 --> 00:39:38.260
you actually have to take a picture of the product, right?

896
00:39:38.260 --> 00:39:40.180
There's a lot that goes into that, getting,

897
00:39:40.180 --> 00:39:41.940
I mean, Ray can tell you all day long,

898
00:39:41.940 --> 00:39:44.180
you know, the right colors, the right lighting,

899
00:39:44.180 --> 00:39:47.060
the right shade is very important to the perfect image,

900
00:39:47.060 --> 00:39:47.980
right?

901
00:39:47.980 --> 00:39:49.840
Now you've got the perfect image.

902
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:51.960
And then all of a sudden you see your image

903
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.240
on somebody else's product that's being sold,

904
00:39:55.240 --> 00:39:58.520
that's a dispute that you now have to file with eBay.

905
00:39:58.520 --> 00:40:00.320
So I have knowledge in those areas.

906
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.880
too. So, you know, there's, there's just a lot of different things, a lot of different benefits. So,

907
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:11.920
that's enough on that. Sorry. Okay. So let me, Sherry, you had a question or was it Catherine

908
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:17.280
first? I don't know who it was. Was it you, Catherine? Sherry can go first. I've already

909
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:23.680
asked. Okay. Sherry, go ahead. Go ahead, my dear friend. Okay. Okay. Well, I, I still have a couple

910
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:31.840
questions that still have to do with way back first day. So when you were talking to me about

911
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:37.360
Confident Kids Academy, it seemed like I should steer clear of that, even though I've been

912
00:40:38.560 --> 00:40:44.720
doing stuff with that for the last year, or I kind of got that indication from you,

913
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:52.800
um, both because of the descriptor thing. And then also because of, um, somebody else has

914
00:40:52.800 --> 00:41:03.600
Confident Kids, even though it's drama and, and, uh, doing. So, so my question is,

915
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:09.040
so I kind of steered away from that. Then I started looking at reader detective.com.

916
00:41:09.040 --> 00:41:16.000
Well, that has reading detect. There is an actual book series called reading detective.com

917
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:22.560
that is registered, or I mean, not, not, um, sorry, it's not reading detective.com, but it just,

918
00:41:23.200 --> 00:41:33.600
it's, it's a registered name of reading detective.com. It's a product. And so, so then I,

919
00:41:33.600 --> 00:41:41.280
so if it has an ending, like ING, instead of like mine is reader detective, like teaching

920
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:48.400
people how to be detectives of their own readers, their kids. And, and, but

921
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:53.200
is your question, if the ending of the word is different, is that still infringement? Is that

922
00:41:53.200 --> 00:41:58.240
what you're asking? Yeah. And I'm guessing it is. Okay. No, no, it's a great question. It's

923
00:41:58.240 --> 00:42:03.440
a great question. Um, so let me just, I'll just go through, let's say, um,

924
00:42:05.600 --> 00:42:10.960
here's the law. Here's a lawyer's answer. It depends. All right. And I'll give you an example.

925
00:42:12.160 --> 00:42:16.160
Remember how I told you about commercial impression? Does it look the same? Does it

926
00:42:16.160 --> 00:42:20.560
sound the same? I listed all the factors for you. You've got to go through them one by one, right?

927
00:42:20.560 --> 00:42:27.040
So think of it this way. One person owns the trademark boomers. Another one owns the trademark

928
00:42:27.040 --> 00:42:34.880
booming, right? Very different commercial impression, right? Booming makes me feel like,

929
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:39.760
makes me feel like, you know, success doing really well. Boomers makes me feel like that's

930
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:46.640
kind of like talking about people that were born, born at a certain time, very different impression.

931
00:42:47.600 --> 00:42:54.880
Now, if I look at the spelling, one has ING, the other one has ERS, right? Boomers. Yeah.

932
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:02.560
So I would argue, well, they kind of look different. One person doesn't own the word

933
00:43:02.560 --> 00:43:06.880
boom. It'd be very different if I was saying boom versus booming, because then boom is in

934
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:12.400
booming. That's clearly trademark infringement. If it's boom versus boomers, that's clearly

935
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:18.080
trademark infringement because it has boom inside of it. But now it's booming versus boomers.

936
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:23.520
I'd say different commercial impression. I say they don't own the word boom. They own booming.

937
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:29.200
That doesn't look the same. It doesn't sound the same. Boomers, booming, doesn't sound the same.

938
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:33.760
Then I'd start looking at other factors here. Man, my hands are starting to buzz.

939
00:43:35.200 --> 00:43:43.920
That's cool. Something's happening spiritually. Man, what is going on? All right. That happens

940
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:48.800
every once in a while. I'm literally feeling presence. I don't know what's going on. All

941
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:55.920
right. So that's one part of it. But then the next part is, are the products sold in the same

942
00:43:55.920 --> 00:44:02.080
area or are the services provided in the same area? Yes or no? I mean, you have to look at every

943
00:44:02.080 --> 00:44:08.480
factor one by one by one. So I can't tell you in your specific scenario, you need to do this.

944
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:12.880
Cannot do that. That's legal advice. You need to talk to an attorney for that. But I just gave you

945
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:19.520
an example of a root word being inside of another word. That's a high likelihood of confusion.

946
00:44:20.160 --> 00:44:24.400
But then that root word with other letters compared to that root word with other letters,

947
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:30.720
where there's really not much of a chance of infringement. So this is why a good lawyer

948
00:44:30.720 --> 00:44:35.760
is important because they'll assess the specific scenario and look at the goods, the services,

949
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:41.360
the price points, where it's sold. Is it on target or is it only available on a website?

950
00:44:41.520 --> 00:44:45.280
Look at all the factors and make a decision as to whether or not there is the potential

951
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:56.400
of infringement or not. OK. OK. And then the last question is, so if because our who is the same,

952
00:44:57.040 --> 00:44:59.920
you know, like it's still even though they're

953
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.960
talking they're making books for kids to read ours is a program to teach parents how to teach

954
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:11.680
their kids to read i think there's probably enough overlap that it's still going to be

955
00:45:12.640 --> 00:45:20.720
probably considered infringement i would guess um but so my next question is i have a company

956
00:45:20.720 --> 00:45:27.440
or i well it's not officially a company but i bought the url all like 15 different urls for

957
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:36.720
creatively breaking free um 10 years ago and i and i've been i had i was doing everything

958
00:45:36.720 --> 00:45:42.080
under that name all my reading instruction and all of that and then i stepped away and started

959
00:45:42.080 --> 00:45:49.760
working and in academia and stuff like that for a little while and then came back to it my question

960
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:58.640
is um that one like when i looked up creatively breaking free on that website i don't see

961
00:45:58.640 --> 00:46:06.240
anything when you say that website do you mean the u.s the one that you gave us the first day

962
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:14.320
yeah you do the trademark searches right there doesn't seem to be anything um on that comes up

963
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:21.120
on that one at all now that's just in the u.s or that's international that's just u.s right

964
00:46:21.120 --> 00:46:27.280
things let me ask a few things and this is for everybody okay what i have showed you is a top

965
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:34.640
level searching tool you should not be relying upon your search results from a top level searching

966
00:46:34.640 --> 00:46:40.240
tool you use a top level searching tool to reduce the number of results then you go to an attorney

967
00:46:40.240 --> 00:46:45.520
to have a real search done okay because a real search is not going to use the uspto website

968
00:46:46.080 --> 00:46:52.800
it's going to use um it's going to use publications it's going to use the u.s and foreign references

969
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:58.240
it's going to use like uh business names it's going to use corporate names it's going to use

970
00:46:58.240 --> 00:47:03.280
state registrations it's going to use federal registrations it's going to use common law usage

971
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.720
that's what you need for a real search to determine whether or not you potentially have an

972
00:47:06.720 --> 00:47:10.320
issue because you may be searching the united states patent trademark office for federal

973
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:15.520
registrations but somebody has a registration in the state that state is not going to come up as

974
00:47:15.520 --> 00:47:20.080
a result because you're searching the united states patent trademark office which is for all

975
00:47:20.080 --> 00:47:26.080
of the united states it's a different database where you're using the uspto website for is to

976
00:47:26.080 --> 00:47:33.360
get rid of things that clearly are not available right so you can do top level searches and you

977
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:39.920
can say i'm looking for starburst for candy i look for it oh there it is i don't need to go

978
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:46.160
any further because that's clear there's the international class there's candy there's the

979
00:47:46.160 --> 00:47:53.200
word that's very simple right well let's say i have five trademarks now i do five trademark searches

980
00:47:53.200 --> 00:47:58.320
four of them get knocked out one of them looks good you take that one you now go to the attorney

981
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:04.240
with that one so what i'm saying is you should not be relying upon the uspto search results for a

982
00:48:04.240 --> 00:48:09.840
number of reasons number one you're not familiar with using it to the degree where you can really

983
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:16.080
rely upon it very well yet you'll get there but you're not there yet all right number two i have

984
00:48:16.080 --> 00:48:23.040
a strong suspicion that if there are three works in your trademark like you know if the trademark is

985
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:31.280
uh get or was it rich dad poor dad right let's say that's the trademark rich dad poor dad okay

986
00:48:32.560 --> 00:48:38.400
if you type in rich dad poor dad it's looking for any trademark that has all four of those words

987
00:48:39.200 --> 00:48:45.680
but if somebody has a trademark for rich dad alone you're committing trademark infringement

988
00:48:45.680 --> 00:48:54.080
by using rich dad poor dad so by searching for four words the trademark that only has two of the

989
00:48:54.080 --> 00:49:00.640
four words didn't come up what you should be doing is searching and this is why one of the tools i'm

990
00:49:00.640 --> 00:49:06.640
going to give in the protection portal is to sit down with people and do this you know do these

991
00:49:06.640 --> 00:49:11.760
searches together so you guys get this this is so important you could do it wrong all the time

992
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:17.680
you should be searching for for combinations of those words individually the words and the

993
00:49:17.680 --> 00:49:22.720
goods and services you know we've we've had these on this stuff there's a lot more

994
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:33.040
so are you saying then that if we only did like breaking free as it as the words by itself

995
00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:42.320
then it wouldn't be then that's a better way to register than to do creatively breaking free is

996
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:46.400
that what you're saying no i'm talking about searching you were talking about searching right

997
00:49:47.200 --> 00:49:53.440
right so what i'm saying is when you search it's always better to search for single words

998
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:58.800
or less than the full phrase if you have a slogan that says just do it

999
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:06.400
and somebody already has a registration for Just Do for sneakers, that's trademark infringement.

1000
00:50:07.120 --> 00:50:12.640
All you did was add one more word. So if what you did was you searched the USPTO website for

1001
00:50:12.640 --> 00:50:20.080
Just Do It, you said, oh, it's clear, no problem. No, you just committed trademark infringement

1002
00:50:20.080 --> 00:50:24.880
because you searched for Just Do It. You didn't search for Just Do. There's different ways to

1003
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:31.120
search the USPTO website. You should be searching not only the entire phrase, but then parts of the

1004
00:50:31.120 --> 00:50:37.520
phrase. So that's why, again, one of the reasons why I'm doing this extra feature of walking

1005
00:50:37.520 --> 00:50:42.640
people through searches. Catherine, let me go to you now and just see what your question is, my

1006
00:50:42.640 --> 00:50:51.600
friend. So thank you. My question is about you, Peter. Can I ask you, you have the members portal,

1007
00:50:51.600 --> 00:50:56.880
you have the protection portal, and there's the affiliate program that you've put together.

1008
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:06.800
And my question is, is there anything in the package? You probably have many different

1009
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:15.680
streams of income, this being one of them. But just using this as the example, do you have any

1010
00:51:15.680 --> 00:51:24.560
patents on these? And here's the patents on you mean on this process that I'm providing?

1011
00:51:24.560 --> 00:51:32.880
Yes. And here's the reason that I'm asking is to kind of get real life example,

1012
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:38.560
because some of the stuff that I deal with some of the stuff that my husband deals with,

1013
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:50.640
our company whatnot, is more digital. Yes. And, and so I and so I'd like an idea about,

1014
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:56.160
like how that works in the digital world. So that's the reason for my question,

1015
00:51:56.800 --> 00:52:02.880
how it works and how patents work in a digital world. Okay. So while you're in, I don't believe

1016
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:08.480
in luck, but you're very fortunate because I'm an electrical engineer, right? That's actually

1017
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:12.480
my background. I'm an electrical engineer, my trade. All right. So I went to school for

1018
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:18.080
electrical engineering, became bored, and then went into law. And so I'm very familiar with

1019
00:52:18.080 --> 00:52:23.600
digital work. The majority of my clients, I'd say probably 70% of my clients are electrical.

1020
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:29.680
And so I do a lot of work with everything from telecommunications to microchip fabrication,

1021
00:52:29.680 --> 00:52:34.880
to rocket science, to you name it, I do a lot of stuff. So if you're, you're asking,

1022
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:41.760
how does this apply to the digital field? Do you mean how to patents apply to the digital field?

1023
00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:47.920
Specifically with the program that you have put together that you just introduced to us today,

1024
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:55.280
or with the, I guess the workshops or the, the system that you've put together.

1025
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:59.680
So method patents, that's what you're talking about. Method patents. Yeah. So, all right. So

1026
00:52:59.680 --> 00:53:06.000
there's a thing called method patents, right? The way method patents work is they protect

1027
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:10.160
a certain method of doing business, right? There's this thing called business method patents.

1028
00:53:10.160 --> 00:53:14.960
They're actually one of the hardest things to get issued patents on right now, because they

1029
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:21.680
get rejected under, I'm just going to get really geeky for you. They get rejected under 35 USC

1030
00:53:21.680 --> 00:53:26.720
section 101 for unpatentable subject matter. All right. You don't need to know all that. I believe

1031
00:53:26.720 --> 00:53:32.400
Anders probably already knew that. So he's nodding his head. He's like, yeah, yeah, I knew that. I

1032
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:39.840
knew that 40 years ago when I made my first million. So catch up Pete. And so what I was saying

1033
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:48.480
is the method itself may, whatever method you're performing may be protectable, but if it can be,

1034
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:52.640
if it can be done exclusively by a human being, you'll never get a patent on it.

1035
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:59.840
Okay. All right. The way that patentable subject matter works for a method is if it's done

1036
00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:06.640
without computers, without software, it can be performed exclusively by a human being.

1037
00:54:06.640 --> 00:54:10.720
The United States patent trademark office will reject it as unpatentable subject matter,

1038
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:16.240
saying that it's not fair that you obtain a legal right to something that human beings can do or

1039
00:54:16.240 --> 00:54:22.720
have been doing, you know, without machines, without any level of novelty. So what you need

1040
00:54:22.720 --> 00:54:29.840
to do or what an individual needs to do is they need to look at the method and sit down with a

1041
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:36.560
patent attorney and create a flow chart. Okay. A flow chart's created and in the flow chart,

1042
00:54:36.560 --> 00:54:41.920
you list every step, step number one, step number two, step number three, step number four,

1043
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:46.880
what's done first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and you give that to the patent attorney.

1044
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:53.520
Now the patent attorney looks at that and they go, okay, for step number two, please describe

1045
00:54:53.520 --> 00:54:58.480
that in way more detail so I understand all the parts of that. And then they'll take notes on it.

1046
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:00.000
Then they'll make an assessment as to what

1047
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.720
whether or not they believe it's patentable subject matter.

1048
00:55:02.720 --> 00:55:04.800
But in the digital arena,

1049
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:08.480
I've gotten patents for all sorts of things.

1050
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:10.640
I've also destroyed patents

1051
00:55:10.640 --> 00:55:13.380
for people that never should have gotten them.

1052
00:55:13.380 --> 00:55:16.480
I was just in a litigation five years ago,

1053
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:19.180
destroyed a patent from a company.

1054
00:55:19.180 --> 00:55:22.840
If you look up the case Palomar versus MRSI,

1055
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:25.320
I was lead counsel in that case.

1056
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:28.800
And we won on an argument that I made

1057
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:31.860
in federal district court in Massachusetts.

1058
00:55:31.860 --> 00:55:34.680
And the reason why was because they owned a patent

1059
00:55:34.680 --> 00:55:36.160
that essentially said,

1060
00:55:36.160 --> 00:55:39.700
if you take something and move it from point A to point B,

1061
00:55:39.700 --> 00:55:41.960
and then move it from point B to point C,

1062
00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:44.120
you're infringing their patent.

1063
00:55:44.120 --> 00:55:44.960
All right.

1064
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:49.960
It was for a manufacturing machine for microchips.

1065
00:55:50.080 --> 00:55:52.320
But the claims didn't mention microchips.

1066
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:55.720
It didn't mention anything about anything mechanical.

1067
00:55:55.720 --> 00:55:57.440
So the claims technically,

1068
00:55:57.440 --> 00:55:59.800
when I opened up my arguments in front of the judge,

1069
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:00.720
I said, your honor,

1070
00:56:01.700 --> 00:56:03.360
if you'd please take your right hand

1071
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:04.880
and pick up the pen in front of you.

1072
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:06.280
Now, can you move it in front of you?

1073
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:07.280
Yes. Okay, great.

1074
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:09.920
Now, can you take your left hand,

1075
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:13.300
grab that pen and move it to your left side?

1076
00:56:13.300 --> 00:56:14.140
Can you do that?

1077
00:56:14.140 --> 00:56:14.960
Yes.

1078
00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:16.300
You just infringed their patent,

1079
00:56:16.300 --> 00:56:19.240
just letting you know they're gonna be suing you tomorrow.

1080
00:56:19.240 --> 00:56:20.680
Like literally that woke him up.

1081
00:56:20.680 --> 00:56:22.160
He's like, what are you talking about?

1082
00:56:22.160 --> 00:56:24.320
Because that's how broad the claims were.

1083
00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:25.880
So what I'm saying,

1084
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:29.360
why I'm saying all this is because in your method,

1085
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:32.480
if it can be performed by a human being

1086
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:34.280
and there's no electrical component,

1087
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:35.760
there's no software component,

1088
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:39.080
it's purely a human being could perform that action

1089
00:56:39.080 --> 00:56:40.220
without a machine,

1090
00:56:41.120 --> 00:56:43.000
good luck ever getting a patent.

1091
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:46.540
It's just, it's very difficult right now.

1092
00:56:46.540 --> 00:56:49.020
The United States Patent and Trademark Office is against it

1093
00:56:49.020 --> 00:56:51.000
and the courts are against it.

1094
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:52.760
So, but since you said digital,

1095
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:55.120
there has to be something electrical associated with it.

1096
00:56:55.120 --> 00:56:57.440
It can't just purely be a method.

1097
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.400
There must be more than a human being involved.

1098
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:03.120
And so going back to my question,

1099
00:57:03.120 --> 00:57:05.200
which thanks for all that information

1100
00:57:05.200 --> 00:57:07.580
and going back to my actual question,

1101
00:57:08.520 --> 00:57:11.880
the, of this specific program,

1102
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:15.040
the protection portal, the members portal,

1103
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:18.400
the whole thing,

1104
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:21.040
like that little umbrella that you created

1105
00:57:21.040 --> 00:57:24.480
under which these exist or something,

1106
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:29.480
is that something that you've been able to patent?

1107
00:57:32.520 --> 00:57:33.900
To patent that?

1108
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:38.240
What I've done is I've used trademarks and copyrights

1109
00:57:38.240 --> 00:57:39.880
to make it pretty much bulletproof.

1110
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:42.520
If anybody touches it, they're gonna get in trouble.

1111
00:57:42.520 --> 00:57:43.660
Would I patent it?

1112
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:45.800
I don't think so.

1113
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:47.200
I think it's a waste of money.

1114
00:57:47.200 --> 00:57:49.160
I mean, in my opinion,

1115
00:57:49.160 --> 00:57:50.540
in my situation,

1116
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:54.480
no, because there's a human being speaking,

1117
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:57.360
I'm using different software programs that already exist.

1118
00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:00.520
I've created something unique that doesn't exist,

1119
00:58:00.520 --> 00:58:04.160
but the human being is actually doing those parts.

1120
00:58:04.160 --> 00:58:07.080
So if anybody uses any part of it,

1121
00:58:07.080 --> 00:58:09.640
they'd infringe my IP already.

1122
00:58:09.640 --> 00:58:11.400
Like if you use the name protection portal,

1123
00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:12.560
you're infringing my IP.

1124
00:58:12.560 --> 00:58:15.040
You copy my videos, you're infringing my IP.

1125
00:58:15.040 --> 00:58:17.320
Use my pictures for day one VIP,

1126
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:19.140
you're infringing my IP.

1127
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:22.020
You take my flow charts, you're infringing my IP.

1128
00:58:22.020 --> 00:58:23.900
You download anything, you're infringing.

1129
00:58:23.900 --> 00:58:26.580
And I've litigate and I've never lost.

1130
00:58:26.580 --> 00:58:29.660
So there's no reason for me to file a patent.

1131
00:58:32.580 --> 00:58:33.820
But it's a really good question.

1132
00:58:33.820 --> 00:58:36.380
I just don't think in my situation

1133
00:58:36.380 --> 00:58:38.940
that a patent would work at all

1134
00:58:40.020 --> 00:58:44.300
because the whole package,

1135
00:58:44.300 --> 00:58:45.500
the whole package,

1136
00:58:46.500 --> 00:58:50.380
man, now you got me thinking, Catherine.

1137
00:58:50.380 --> 00:58:51.220
I noticed that.

1138
00:58:51.220 --> 00:58:52.040
I love that.

1139
00:58:52.040 --> 00:58:52.880
She's got your will.

1140
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:53.720
Something just switched.

1141
00:58:53.720 --> 00:58:54.980
Like literally inside of me,

1142
00:58:54.980 --> 00:58:55.820
something just switched.

1143
00:58:55.820 --> 00:58:58.180
She's like, wait, let's map this.

1144
00:58:58.180 --> 00:58:59.020
All right.

1145
00:58:59.020 --> 00:59:01.520
So if I were going to draft a patent on this,

1146
00:59:04.380 --> 00:59:06.420
a method for doing business,

1147
00:59:06.420 --> 00:59:10.220
utilizing an educational platform,

1148
00:59:11.100 --> 00:59:12.380
method for doing business,

1149
00:59:12.380 --> 00:59:13.700
system and method.

1150
00:59:14.500 --> 00:59:15.340
Is it replicatable?

1151
00:59:15.340 --> 00:59:16.940
Method for training, what?

1152
00:59:16.940 --> 00:59:18.320
Is it replicatable?

1153
00:59:19.260 --> 00:59:20.540
Oh yeah, definitely.

1154
00:59:20.540 --> 00:59:21.380
Yeah.

1155
00:59:21.380 --> 00:59:22.700
I mean, like without needing to see anything,

1156
00:59:22.700 --> 00:59:24.860
isn't that one of the parameters?

1157
00:59:24.860 --> 00:59:25.700
Like if someone-

1158
00:59:25.700 --> 00:59:26.860
Wait, hold on, don't, hold on.

1159
00:59:26.860 --> 00:59:29.380
Let me just, let me just go in the lawyer mode here for,

1160
00:59:29.380 --> 00:59:30.340
if you guys don't mind,

1161
00:59:30.340 --> 00:59:31.940
I'm just trying to answer Catherine's question.

1162
00:59:31.940 --> 00:59:35.340
So system and method

1163
00:59:38.220 --> 00:59:39.140
for training

1164
00:59:39.900 --> 00:59:41.820
individuals on a subject matter,

1165
00:59:41.820 --> 00:59:46.820
utilizing an online educational system.

1166
00:59:51.740 --> 00:59:53.900
It would be hard, but it's possible.

1167
00:59:53.900 --> 00:59:56.420
I've gotten more difficult patents issued.

1168
00:59:56.420 --> 00:59:58.220
It'd be hard, but it'd be possible.

1169
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.160
Now, would I be able to get the patent?

1170
01:00:04.160 --> 01:00:08.560
Probably not because people have been running challenges before.

1171
01:00:08.560 --> 01:00:12.120
This isn't the first time somebody's run a challenge, right?

1172
01:00:12.120 --> 01:00:15.640
So the uniqueness in my case would be the subject matter.

1173
01:00:15.640 --> 01:00:19.960
But you can't really, the chances of getting a patent specific

1174
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:21.960
to the subject matter are kind of low.

1175
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:23.440
I mean, it's possible.

1176
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:25.560
I'm up for a challenge.

1177
01:00:25.560 --> 01:00:29.520
Yeah. I can't, I can't hear you, you're muted.

1178
01:00:29.520 --> 01:00:32.760
Sorry. And that was one of the reasons that I was asking

1179
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:44.080
because there are some subject matters that are kind of more rare than others.

1180
01:00:44.080 --> 01:00:49.440
For instance, doing something where somebody is teaching people

1181
01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:54.080
how to become a life coach, a realtor,

1182
01:00:54.080 --> 01:01:03.000
how to, teaching people how to sell stuff on Amazon,

1183
01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:08.280
things like that, there are way more.

1184
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:13.080
IP, like there's only a handful of y'all.

1185
01:01:13.080 --> 01:01:23.240
And some of the software stuff that we do,

1186
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:26.240
I mean, there's like very, very few.

1187
01:01:26.240 --> 01:01:27.640
Right, right.

1188
01:01:27.640 --> 01:01:28.680
I see what would end up happening.

1189
01:01:28.680 --> 01:01:30.520
So that's why I was asking.

1190
01:01:30.520 --> 01:01:32.160
It's a great question, Catherine.

1191
01:01:32.160 --> 01:01:36.040
I think it's going to break down to whether or not

1192
01:01:36.040 --> 01:01:39.160
having the subject matter of the training

1193
01:01:39.160 --> 01:01:44.240
within the claims of the patent makes it patentable, right?

1194
01:01:44.240 --> 01:01:46.920
Because it's very subject matter specific.

1195
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:50.480
So if you're a coach, the specific things that you're doing as a coach,

1196
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:56.040
if you're an IP attorney, the specific things you're doing as an IP attorney,

1197
01:01:56.040 --> 01:01:59.640
if you create, what I would say is start out with the flow chart.

1198
01:01:59.640 --> 01:02:04.360
If you create the flow chart first, bring that flow chart to a lawyer,

1199
01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:09.400
a patent attorney, and say, these are the steps in my process.

1200
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:13.440
I start out by doing this, then adding that, then adding that,

1201
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:15.160
and then ask them, can you do an assessment

1202
01:02:15.160 --> 01:02:17.880
and tell me whether or not this is patentable?

1203
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:21.440
Because it's going to be very specific to what's in the flow chart.

1204
01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:22.720
So that's the way I would do it.

1205
01:02:22.720 --> 01:02:24.280
But you got me thinking.

1206
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:25.800
That was very interesting.

1207
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:31.560
So yeah, when I mentioned that I haven't lost, that's by the grace of God.

1208
01:02:31.560 --> 01:02:32.880
There's no way anybody's that good.

1209
01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:34.520
That's God's favor.

1210
01:02:34.520 --> 01:02:35.600
It's his favor.

1211
01:02:35.600 --> 01:02:40.280
So all right, I'll take one more question because it's already 926.

1212
01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:42.080
I'll take one more question if somebody has one.

1213
01:02:42.080 --> 01:02:44.160
Otherwise, I'm going to close.

1214
01:02:44.160 --> 01:02:48.840
So tomorrow is going to be our last day.

1215
01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:58.680
I'll be announcing how to get the, oh, Rae, you already sent out the feedback form?

1216
01:02:58.680 --> 01:03:00.840
I'm working on something with Kareem on that,

1217
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:03.760
but I can drop a link here if you're ready.

1218
01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:05.680
Yeah, yeah, that would be easy for them.

1219
01:03:08.520 --> 01:03:11.400
Yeah, that would be easy for them.

1220
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:17.360
So your ticket to obtain the video on how

1221
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:25.600
to do a trademark search for logos is a filled out feedback form.

1222
01:03:25.600 --> 01:03:27.760
So you fill out the form.

1223
01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:28.640
You send it in.

1224
01:03:28.640 --> 01:03:32.640
I send you the video that's on how to do a trademark for logos, all right?

1225
01:03:32.640 --> 01:03:34.560
How to do a trademark search for logos, OK?

1226
01:03:37.120 --> 01:03:39.920
That tends to be, basically, it's giving you

1227
01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:43.720
a thanks for giving the form back.

1228
01:03:43.720 --> 01:03:47.360
And with that, I think I'm going to, oh.

1229
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:50.040
It's a don't miss bonus, guys.

1230
01:03:50.040 --> 01:03:51.760
This is fire.

1231
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:53.680
You're going to love it.

1232
01:03:53.680 --> 01:03:57.120
Yeah, because most people don't know, if you're looking up the Nike swoosh,

1233
01:03:57.120 --> 01:04:01.520
how in the world do you look up a Nike swoosh in a word search?

1234
01:04:01.520 --> 01:04:04.040
Most people can't figure out how to do that.

1235
01:04:04.040 --> 01:04:07.600
So there's a pretty cool way to do it.

1236
01:04:07.600 --> 01:04:09.800
And so we go through it in the video.

1237
01:04:10.680 --> 01:04:12.720
I created a separate resource with that.

1238
01:04:12.720 --> 01:04:16.200
And so all you have to do is send back the feedback form.

1239
01:04:16.200 --> 01:04:21.360
Then we send you the email with the link to the actual way to search it.

1240
01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:23.000
And then you'll have that.

1241
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.280
Carrie, what's up?

1242
01:04:28.080 --> 01:04:32.440
We probably can't really go into it just because it's too detailed.

1243
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:39.000
But I was trying to look up one of my names on the patent thing

1244
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:41.480
on the trademark site.

1245
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:46.920
And as I put it all in, I put the three words that are in there.

1246
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:49.480
And I put the and as the connector.

1247
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:54.960
And it still was just full of a big, long list.

1248
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:59.320
But none of them had anything to do with what I just put in there.

1249
01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:00.040
And so I

1250
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.040
I don't know if those words are embedded somewhere

1251
01:05:03.040 --> 01:05:05.980
in the application, if then it comes up.

1252
01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:09.120
I don't know, it's probably there's,

1253
01:05:09.120 --> 01:05:11.160
I don't really know what I'm asking.

1254
01:05:11.160 --> 01:05:13.400
Are you selecting the field for the word

1255
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:16.800
or are you just searching the word with no field specified?

1256
01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:19.200
Maybe I didn't have the field specified.

1257
01:05:19.200 --> 01:05:20.720
Yeah, look at the field.

1258
01:05:20.720 --> 01:05:24.080
Right, that's the second one down on the left.

1259
01:05:24.080 --> 01:05:27.280
Yeah, it's on the right side, so when you click,

1260
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:29.080
and when we go into the portal,

1261
01:05:29.080 --> 01:05:31.680
you'll see like in there, we'll do it live.

1262
01:05:31.680 --> 01:05:34.960
And so you'll see, and I'll explain what each one means

1263
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:37.680
one by one by one, because there's a lot of options there.

1264
01:05:37.680 --> 01:05:42.680
But what you want to select is the non-punctuated mark.

1265
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:44.800
Actually, I did do that.

1266
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:46.520
Okay, so you did select that.

1267
01:05:46.520 --> 01:05:50.160
Yes, and it still was this long, long list

1268
01:05:50.160 --> 01:05:54.080
of things that none of them said what I was looking for.

1269
01:05:54.080 --> 01:05:57.000
So did you choose the first word

1270
01:05:57.000 --> 01:05:59.600
and the second word of the mark?

1271
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:04.960
So let's say the mark is like Microsoft Word.

1272
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:07.320
You put in Microsoft at the top,

1273
01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:12.240
selected non-punctuated mark

1274
01:06:12.240 --> 01:06:17.240
and word non-punctuated mark, and then you did the search.

1275
01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:21.480
I put all three words in the one field.

1276
01:06:23.240 --> 01:06:24.400
Oh, you can't do that.

1277
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:26.240
Okay, so that was, right.

1278
01:06:26.240 --> 01:06:29.880
So this is the problem with their system

1279
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:33.480
is that then it looks for any one of the words

1280
01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:36.200
and then it just spits everything out.

1281
01:06:36.200 --> 01:06:38.040
It was a mess, it was a mess, okay.

1282
01:06:38.040 --> 01:06:39.760
Oh, I know, I've run into that.

1283
01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:44.120
So what you want to do when I search that tool

1284
01:06:44.120 --> 01:06:46.360
is I type in the first word,

1285
01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:50.560
then I personally select non-punctuated mark.

1286
01:06:50.560 --> 01:06:53.360
And then I probably type in the second word

1287
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:54.800
in the next field.

1288
01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:56.840
And then I select non-punctuated mark

1289
01:06:56.840 --> 01:06:59.320
and then I do the search and then I get really good results.

1290
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:00.800
And can you do three?

1291
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:02.680
Can you have three fields?

1292
01:07:02.680 --> 01:07:04.480
Only two.

1293
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:05.920
All right, well, that helps.

1294
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:08.520
But two is better than one

1295
01:07:08.520 --> 01:07:11.400
because when you do one, you get a lot of results.

1296
01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:12.240
Right, yeah.

1297
01:07:12.240 --> 01:07:14.720
Could you imagine if you were looking for Microsoft Word

1298
01:07:14.720 --> 01:07:16.880
and you typed in the word word,

1299
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:19.280
can you imagine how many results you would get?

1300
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:22.240
It'd just be insane.

1301
01:07:22.240 --> 01:07:25.040
So, all right, I think that is enough for today.

1302
01:07:25.040 --> 01:07:27.360
You guys are sponges.

1303
01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:28.760
It's very clear.

1304
01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:30.920
You soak up a lot of material.

1305
01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:34.040
I feel like I'm giving birth to like IP attorneys.

1306
01:07:34.040 --> 01:07:35.480
It's amazing.

1307
01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:36.760
So I'm going to let you go.

1308
01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:37.600
Bless you guys.

1309
01:07:37.600 --> 01:07:39.000
Have an incredible evening.

1310
01:07:40.080 --> 01:07:41.400
Hope to see you tomorrow.

1311
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:43.720
Take advantage of the portal.

1312
01:07:43.720 --> 01:07:45.320
I'm telling you, you're going to need it.

1313
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:47.800
Everybody ends up running into this.

1314
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:51.200
But obviously you have to make an assessment for yourself.

1315
01:07:51.200 --> 01:07:52.920
And if you have questions, just let me know.

1316
01:07:52.920 --> 01:07:54.120
I'm here for you.

1317
01:07:54.120 --> 01:07:55.400
I'd love to continue serving you

1318
01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:56.800
and I'll see you guys tomorrow.

1319
01:07:56.800 --> 01:07:57.760
I'll leave you with Larissa.

1320
01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:00.480
And Ray and Larissa,

1321
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:03.000
I don't think we need to do a summary call tonight.

1322
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:05.000
We'll just pick up tomorrow, okay?

1323
01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:05.840
Okay.

1324
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:07.160
All right, catch you later.

1325
01:08:07.160 --> 01:08:08.000
Bless you guys.