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Thank you, Larissa. You're awesome. See, the recording is going to start with thank you,

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Larissa. You're awesome, which is appropriate. So welcome, everybody. It's so wonderful to

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see all of you. I know you, you ladies are actually coaching other people. You're guiding

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other people. You're running challenges, which is actually significant towards a part of

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what we're going to talk about today. Because it's something to actually know about intellectual

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property is a whole other thing to be able to teach other people. You know, so you can

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understand how to change like to change the oil in a car. But I can tell you, I've heard

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people try to describe to me how to change the oil in a car and nope, it ain't happening.

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You just you're like, hold it, where is it? It's behind what like, what do you turn like

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that? It's just so part of what I want to do is, first of all, I want to answer any

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of your questions right up front, because this is your time. I will answer any specific

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questions or any broad questions that you have. I'm more than happy to go into anything

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that you like in IP. So patents, trademarks, copyrights, trade secrets, licensing, any

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of that stuff. I'm going to spend a little bit of time talking about funnels and websites.

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So you understand more about what's protectable, because I see a lot of you running challenges.

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And so I want to make sure that you're protected, like you know what you're, you don't step

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into a situation when other people just copying all your stuff. And then separate from that,

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I want to also spend some time with understanding what when you find a trademark application,

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what is the specimen? What's an acceptable specimen? Because that's very confusing for

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a lot of people. So we're going to go through some specific examples for goods and then

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separate examples for services. Okay. Funnel content would be awesome. Yeah. Okay. Absolutely.

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Yeah, we'll go through that. But let me start off by opening this up. Any of your questions,

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any of your comments? I want to be able to answer anything you have. I know some of the

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other people had a conflict. So they said they're going to watch the recording. And

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some are actually going to be showing up a little late. In fact, I think 12 there's

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there's a number of people who actually send me DMS on that. So so the recordings will

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be there for them. But some of them will show up a little late too. So just feel free to

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unmute yourself. Matter of fact, you don't really have to mute yourself at all, quite

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frankly, because it's a smaller group today. So you can ask anything you want or interact

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any way you want as well. So let me open up the floor first. For anybody who's got a question,

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jump right in. I have a question. Yeah, go for it. I have been meeting with lots of creatives

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and entrepreneurs here in my my new home, state of Tennessee. So I met with a with a friend and

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potential client. And they have a book that inspired them as children when I say they,

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she and her siblings, and they are writing a pilot for it for a TV series. And they are trying

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to connect they have connected or about to connect with the author. And when you say

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Rowena, they're connecting with the author. So you said they wrote a book first, right?

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The author wrote a book that they loved when they were children. Okay, okay. My friends are

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the children are now grown ups. Okay, book that they read when they were kids that they really

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loved that inspired. One of her brother had a prophetic vision, wrote a whole pilot for it,

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they want to shoot it, do it really high budget, presented to him to request his, I guess, consent

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to use the to use the inspiration of his book to make the the series of episodes for for this

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particular story. Makes sense. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, I felt like it was great, too, except I felt

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like it was a little I don't know, I felt like they need to get his permission first before they

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shoot it. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah, I was like, Are you sure you want to do that? You know,

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because their thing is, we want to show him what we could do the level of quality, we could do it.

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And I was like, that's already lots of hours. Lots of effort. Lots of money. Lots of infringement.

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Yeah, lots of infringement. I'm like, Oh, I mean, and they were like, and I go, How do you how

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how much do you want him to be a part of this creative process? Or like, we would love for

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him to be a significant part. But what if he doesn't want to be a significant part?

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Yeah, there's a lot of questions that you should ask.

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And, namely, would he want to be a part of this program and would he want you to do something

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like this with his, with his books, right?

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That's an excellent observation, Rowena.

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And he's very fortunate to have you there, quite frankly, because I've seen the opposite

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where people will literally create and I've seen it more on like the comic book side,

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or like the animation side where they'll create something similar.

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And then all of a sudden, they realize that they're liable for copyright infringement,

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or even trademark infringement, because some people will use the names that belong to specific

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characters, or they'll use the logos that are used, or they'll even use the same colors,

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you know, or like the so like the cape has the exact same symbol for like Shazam.

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So they create, you know, an animated character from the movie, even though it started out

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as an animated character that became a movie.

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But so the whole point of this is, you're 100% right.

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The very first thing that should be happening is they should be what they should be doing

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is approaching them, the author of the book.

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And here, actually, let me back up a little bit.

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First thing they should determine is who owns the rights, right?

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Because a lot of times an author will write a book, but then give our right title and

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interest to a publisher, or to another entity, who will then go and do the publishing and

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give royalties to the actual, you know, author.

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So it's not always the case that the author of a book owns the rights to a book.

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That's the first thing to understand.

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I found this out, well, I always knew this in the law.

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But separate from that, we recently, I have a friend of mine, Ben Dienda, and what he

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wanted to do is take all of the public videos, documents, memoirs of Kathryn Kuhlman, and

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turn them into a single collection that was available online, where you could become a

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member of this community for a certain amount of money.

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And that money would be used, you know, for gospel purposes, obviously.

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But you can literally subscribe to this online community, where all of her works are there.

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And then you just, you can have access to everything.

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You can't copy it, but you can have access to everything.

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Now, I tried to help him in this process, right?

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We found out that a certain library had a majority of the collection, but it was given

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to a certain entity.

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There was a Kathryn Kuhlman Foundation, but then they gave all their rights to a certain entity.

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Right?

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So Ben wanted to call Kathryn Kuhlman Foundation.

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And I said, yeah, yeah, that's great, but who owns the copyright?

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And when we looked at the copyright, the foundation didn't own it anymore.

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It actually was owned by this other library slash university entity.

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So calling up the Kathryn Kuhlman Foundation, hey, it's wonderful.

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You can have great, you know, great memories of her ministry and speak to people that actually

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worked with her, which is great.

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But they can't give you rights to the stuff because they don't own it anymore.

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So the very first step should be determine who actually owns rights to the book.

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One way you can do is when you open up the book, it'll tell you who the copyrights owned by.

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All right.

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So when you look at, everybody's got the expert secrets book.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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So I haven't even opened this yet because I haven't had a chance.

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Things have been kind of crazy.

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But if I open it up right at the beginning, let's see if they did it right.

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There it is.

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Cataloging data.

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Where's your copyright notice?

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Yep.

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There it is.

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So in this case, you'll see right up, let's see, that way, that way.

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Where is it?

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There it is.

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Right there.

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Do you see that?

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I see it.

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Russell Brunson.

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Russell Brunson.

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So Russell Brunson has an entity.

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He has a corporation, but he chose to keep the rights of the book to himself.

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So what I would do is I would look at that book and see who owns the rights.

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Because if you call it Russell Brunson, when the owner of the book is not Russell Brunson,

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you know, that might be an issue.

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Now, so that's the first part.

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You want to figure out who's the actual owner.

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Then what I would do, I would get samples of work that they've done before, not samples

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of work that belong to Russell Brunson.

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That's kind of crazy.

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I mean, because what you're doing is you're taking an actual copyrightable work and you're

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creating another work, which is called a derivative work.

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Only entity who has rights to a copyrightable work

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is the owner of the copyright, that's it.

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And a derivative work is a modification

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of the original work, right?

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So if you look at, let's say like,

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what's the story everybody would know?

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Well, I don't like using the example of the Bible

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because Jesus is the word made flesh.

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So let's talk about Superman, right?

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So Superman's planet blows up

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and he goes in this capsule and it comes to earth, right?

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So you say to yourself, you know what?

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That's a great book.

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What I'm gonna have happen was

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the world doesn't blow up entirely,

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like part of it blows up

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and the rest of it is still salvageable

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but they can't have a good enough,

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they can't have the whole population there.

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So they send their son because of overpopulation

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and some tyrant who is coming to take over

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the only area that's potentially inhabitable

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in this world, right?

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I tell my kids story all the time

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so I could do this day and night.

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So this is what, this is what,

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this is called a derivative work.

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The original work was the book,

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it said, planet blows up, he goes to earth.

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You decide to look at that and say,

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I'm gonna make a modification.

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My modification is gonna be,

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planet doesn't really blow up, part of it does,

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rest of it's still there,

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overpopulation comes to earth.

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That's, that is derived from the original work.

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You cannot own a derivative work.

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The only one who can own a derivative work

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is the original owner.

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So what you create cannot use

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major portions of a copyrightable work.

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Gonna get my Clark Kent,

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blue blockers Superman.

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That's good, Holly.

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I know I should be wearing those all the time.

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I have them right here.

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So good.

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I'll wear mine too.

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In celebration of 100X, I'll wear mine too.

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So.

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Cute.

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Man, we're fine.

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My IQ just went up.

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I feel smarter.

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I feel smarter.

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This is great.

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So, yeah, so the,

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the first step is figure out who owns it.

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Number two is figure out,

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find some work that they've done

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that demonstrates their ability,

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