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Able to hear and something that we wanted to kind of get you guys geared up for so I've I've kind of taken on the month of October because I felt like it was really important for us to lay some internal groundwork that we could build upon as we start to architect, you know, these visions that we have and the deeper layers. We want to go with our who as we go into November, I'm passing the baton a little bit. I mean, I'll still be here, but Bruce is going to really help come and strategize. Like, how do we build this thing?

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So any questions that you guys might even be having right now of like, the tech or pricing? Or how do we like, what does this look like? Even we'll talk like some marketing things as well, that we're we're heading into that. So if that has come up, and you're like, maybe overwhelmed, or like, I don't, am I allowed to ask these questions? Absolutely. Those are, we're going to get our hands dirty. Like, those are all the things, the next four months that we're going to be talking about. So I just didn't want you to think, you know, for the next four months, we're

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going to be sitting here, though, it would be awesome. And just doing internal work, because this is also about continuing to take external territory as well.

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So and then, yeah, more on the tech side, obviously, you guys can jump in book calls. I know some of you guys, we've been helping with some tech, tech, helpline. So, yeah, next month, we're going to kind of figure out how to go from some of this, Liz has been helping you kind of establish and refine kind of why you're doing what you're doing, what your vision is for, for

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this new ministry that you've created. And so I'm going to try to come up with a couple ways that we can actually start to pull people into a closer level. So we basically had a lot of reach, just getting out on TikTok, and Facebook and Instagram. And now how do we help people take that next step towards us. So we'll probably look at things like setting up, you know, a way for people to give you their email address, there may be a way to do a page, or if you want to host a live event, or a

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live prayer call, and have people register for that call, and basically gather, you know, things like that. So it could be free, it could be paid. As far as how you want to, you know, have people take that next step, maybe it's booking a coaching call with you as well, or a paid coaching call. All those are going to be options. So we'll have a few things, I know people at different places for where they're at in their online ministry. So yeah, we can we'll look at that. But we'll definitely go into kind of big picture strategy stuff on the Tuesdays. And then we'll use those tech

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support calls, we can hop on specific calls with any one of you guys to get that set up. And it'll be kind of ongoing, we'll continue the internal stuff.

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And that'll happen definitely in parallel. But we want you guys to start thinking, I mean, you guys have been thinking, but we don't want you to think that this is just like dreaming, like this is going to be like boots on the ground stuff as well. And you know, sky's the limit. So I know some of you have even mentioned like, hey, I want to do product, like I want to do merchandise, like how do you set up a store?

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Like, how do you source things? Like, how do you publish a book? Like, if we can't, if we don't know that if we haven't done that ourselves, I guarantee we know people who have and we want to bring resources in because it was all about advancement, right. And so this is not about advancing into doing something that looks exactly like what we've done, though it could. But this is about what you and the Lord have been talking and dreaming about and how we can resource you or connect you with the right resources. Like that's our hearts and our vision for these next four months. So

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it's good. Yeah, I think. And then just a reminder that next, is it Monday? I think you have your prayer call.

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But not next Monday, because there's it's there's like an extra Monday in October, but the 7th of November. Yeah. So you'll see that that'll be for our next prophetic prayer call. First Monday of every month. That's an easy way to remember it. So

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awesome. Okay, so since I didn't get to watch all your videos that came in, I want to get some feedback. I want to hear how was it like this exercise of writing the vision down? Like, highs and lows, both are just one of those things. Like, what was it like? Who's willing to just like jump in and be like, this is, were there barriers? Were there stretching? Like, go ahead and unmute yourselves. Hey, Marianne, I see your hand.

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I did it at the last minute, because honestly, I was busy with other things. And yesterday, I was totally overwhelmed. And I said, God, I want to know what I can do in this video. And the first this morning, a memory came to me from I had

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Oh, probably a couple of months after I started in Kingdom Messenger. And it was very specific.

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And so I what that's what I've put on my life. Basically, he showed me what I was not to do.

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Okay, it's not not teaching in a healing, not teaching deliverance, but leading them into

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God's presence, and turning them over to him. So this is

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huge. For me. That was huge. Yeah. And so now I know, okay,

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that that definitely puts boundaries around what I'm

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doing. And I know it's right. And for me, that's discipleship.

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It's not, it's not trying to solve somebody's problems, but

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leading them to the one who can.

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Yeah, absolutely. Because this is what this is, this gets me so

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excited. Marrying is like, this is exactly what I wanted for us

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was when we were talking about the restraints or the

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boundaries. It's not just for what we're going to be doing.

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But it also gives us clarity on what what we're not going to be

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doing. And there's freedom in that because we're not supposed

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to just like we're not called to reach the whole world. We're not

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called to be everything to everyone. Right? Like, this is

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this is about being focused on what it is that the Lord's

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wanting to partner with us in and serving people well. And

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even though there's lots of needs that are who has, what is

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the need that we feel like the Lord's wanting to partner with

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us and because there's, there's he's partnering with other

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people too, for all the other things, but we don't have to

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fill every single need that our who carries. That's awesome.

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Hey, Amy.

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Mary, that's so huge for me. Because I feel like that just

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puts this piece to part of my puzzle that I need, which

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Lindsay, you said, you know, last week, like, we're gonna see

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each other in our stories in our whatever's, you know, and I

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wasn't expecting to get such a whammy just now from the Lord.

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But I feel like, for me, what was a big highlight, because

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there are a lot of things I would like to do. And each and

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every one of them is a dream in itself. But one thing that I

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know, I feel like, particularly just like a strong leading and a

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strong desire over the next couple of months, is to somehow

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gather my daughters, like, and I have a lot of daughters that

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I've collected through the years that I've adopted into my heart.

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And, and I said this before, I've missed them. And I know

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they miss me. And they've been sweet to just, you know, let me

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push pause. And I feel like what God has put into my heart is

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like a commissioning of them, because they're all gifted in

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the prophetic. I see them all just on the precipice of being

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launched into into purpose. And some know it and some don't. But

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for them to, you know, be commissioned, and I don't know

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what that looks like. But Lindsay, you and I can talk

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about it on Thursday.

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Yeah, I'm looking forward to that conversation.

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But that I mean, I know, it's a releasing them to God's

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presence. Like, you know, a mom is always a mom. But, but then

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your daughters become moms, you know. And I think that's what

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I'm releasing them to do, you know, is to go and be excited

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about that. And I don't know, you know, that gives me clarity

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on that. And then I'll just say one more thing. So this morning,

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like life happened, like a freight train this week for me,

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like I just had to hop on and ride, you know, it was just, you

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know, full, full, full, in a good way, but full. And so this

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is more, I feel like God has been fathering me during this

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time that we've been in this, like in a way that I maybe

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didn't believe I got to be fathered, you know, well, and

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probably didn't, I was, you know, anyway, he's coming along

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and showing me where I was fathered. And this morning, he,

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I just was praising him. And he just like, downloaded into me,

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I was writing as fast as I could, until just a little while

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ago, a prophetic allegory, my husband walked in for lunch, I

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said, I have got to read you this. And he's like, that needs

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to be a book. And so I don't know. I mean, and I was like

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laughing, I was having so much fun. Like the words that were

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coming from heaven in this, which is, it's just a prophetic

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allegory of what God is doing on earth right now in the body of

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Christ. And so anyway,

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that was a highlight and it wasn't even part of my assignment.

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Well, I think it is connected because, you know, and we'll talk a little bit

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more about this today as we talk about restraints and boundaries and all those

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things, but, you know, we have to remember that we

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have, we serve a God who takes free will very seriously. It's a gift that he's

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given us, didn't have to give us that gift and he did, and so when we

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powerfully choose something,

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resource opens up, creativity opens up, innovation opens up because we have

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chosen to open ourselves up to it, if that makes

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sense, and so the universe gets a lot of

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credit unfortunately for this, you know, people are like, oh the universe is just

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following me with the, you know, probably heard your friends or, you know, it's

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like, oh yeah, the universe, but we know we serve a God

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who is all, is our all in all, and that includes in our choices, but he

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has given us the gift of making the choice, right, and so

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you guys have, you've taken a step out and you've chosen some things, right,

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you've chosen to become a kingdom messenger, you've chosen to dream

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with the Lord, you've chosen to write the vision down, begin putting that together,

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thinking about what could this look like, you've

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pushed past, you know, resistance of either feeling disqualified, feeling like

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I don't know how to do this, feeling like I don't know

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what the answer is to this question, and things are opening up,

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things are opening up, and it's fun, right, Amy?

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So fun, and let me just tell you, each one of you,

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I mean, as I've just continued to dream about where this could go, you know, I

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mean, because like, I could make it into a very short thing, but

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like, no, I could keep going with this, and each one of you all

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could be a character in my book. As long as I'm not the villain, Amy, in

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your book. I don't want to be the villain in your

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story. No, no, no, you're gonna be like, you're gonna be like a general.

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I love it, I love it. That's really cool. Hey, Susie, I see your hand.

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I just wanted to say thank you, thank you, Marion. There's a part of me,

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like my mind says, oh yes, I've got that, but then my heart

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deeply knows, oh no, I need to hear that over

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and over and over. We are freeing people to connect with

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Holy Spirit themselves, and I guess that, you know,

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just our previous experience and thinking just

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needs to keep hearing that. So thank you, and

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thank you, Amy. Same thing, and that's what's happening with me.

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To answer your question, this was very frustrating and annoying,

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and it was, you know, good to finally sit down.

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There's this part of me that I'm getting over that is,

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if I sit down with paper and pen, Holy Spirit's not going to talk to me.

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I'm just going to be sitting there, and so I'm,

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you know, gradually getting it, oh no, He has always shown up.

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He will show up. I can get, you know, just skip that whole

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thinking thing. So in the previous, with my website, I previously

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think, okay, all of these Greek words archived in

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kind of a library with rooms for chat rooms, and this

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morning I kind of have this beautiful sense of this

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lovely bookstore that they don't exist anymore. The bookstore that has a coffee

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shop with comfortable chairs and, you know,

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just this wonderful, it was an old building

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atmosphere that didn't feel creaky. It felt warm and

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and just see, okay, I want a place like that,

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a nice little coffee shop, and instead of having these

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Greek words in tomes, to have these little booklets around

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that somebody say, okay, yeah, tell me what does this called near mean, and

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where is the scriptural background for that,

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and to be able to say, yeah, let's just look at that. And I

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have no idea who will want to come to this,

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but I'm seeing that it could be a place where ministers could send

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their people, or ministers could gather information from,

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but I also want a place where ministers can come and

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say, okay, I'm seeing right brain, left brain, how does that connect with

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our gut, and what are we going to do with, and what do we do with

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God's presence, and how do we access God's presence, but

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not in an academic way, in a fun, light-hearted,

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comfortable, open to everybody, non-threatening, non-intimidating Greek

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words, you know, to have something that's open.

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It's very much what I experience with math, because all of our,

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most of our attitudes towards math, and seeing math is not that way at all.

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It's wonderful, it's beautiful, and if we approach it that way, it's delightful,

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and I kind of want that to be with Jesus.

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Holy Spirit and the Bible. The Bible is important. We need to know what the Bible is really saying.

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I want you to make math delightful for me.

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Oh, I love it.

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I am going to somehow, Lord keeps doing this. I am going to write a parallel because I think,

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oh, I learned this about math. Oh, and it applies to Jesus. And I learned this about Jesus and

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teaching Jesus and sharing, oh, it applies to math. So instead of saying, oh, this is this,

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I've decided I'm calling this thing that can be math or Jesus, wonder. And so I've got it

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in the back of my mind. Wonder is misunderstood and misrepresented.

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You should unpack that.

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I love that word. I love wonder. I'm practicing wonder right now. So I will

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apply wonder to math. And Susie, you've convicted me.

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Just say yes, Lord. Thank you.

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Yes, Lord. Thank you. I love it. I love it. So, okay, I see Cindy's joined us and Monica

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and Kathy. And I just was explaining to everyone that I have not watched everyone's videos because

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they did not populate on my feed until like right as I was about to get on this call. And I was

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telling Tamara, like, oh, I don't think anyone's done the homework assignment. She's like, a lot

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of people have done it. So all that to say, I haven't heard everyone's like ahas, but if you're

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willing to share a little bit of like, what was this exercise like for you of actually writing

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the vision down? Was it something that you guys had attempted before? Or was this like the first

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time that you had decided I'm going to write what's in my heart, like get it down on paper?

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Like, just raise your hand. Who's was it? Who was the first time of ever doing this?

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Cindy and Marion. Okay. All right. So I want to talk a little bit today. Did you guys have

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anything you wanted to share? Monica or Cindy? You're good.

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Can I share something?

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Oh, yeah, sure. Go ahead.

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I was fine until I had to get on live. You know, I found that I can write it and it's in my mind.

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And then when I have to get on live, it's like goes all crazy. So I'm not sure if that's just

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practice. But I feel like I don't want to keep doing it because you guys say just do a raw live,

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you know. And so I don't know. I guess that's something that comes with practice.

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So is the barrier for you like being live on camera?

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Like not so much exercise, but actually getting up and sharing your heart live?

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I think it's a combination of that. Yes, yes.

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I think a lot of people have struggled with that, like on various levels. Like I know that's been

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a lot of feedback that we've gotten from people kind of over the two years of us doing this is

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like, I don't want to be live. But it seems like there's something deeper because there's an

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emotional response. So do you feel like do you feel like it's a like you're feeling like you

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have to perform? I guess it is a perfectionist thing where I wanted to be so exact, you know,

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that you have like a one chance to say it and then it's, you know, can't go back and erase and,

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you know, get a better word there. But I think it is. I mean, like I said, that my audience is

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getting the information from screens, whether it's Instagram or reading or something like that.

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I don't think that it's going to be something I just have to get there, you know, and we're

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working on different products and different ways of setting it up. But I don't know if it gets any

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easier the more you do it. I mean, you've been doing it longer and some of the ladies here have

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been doing it longer, I guess. Does it get any easier or is it just you've got to make a decision

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not to think about it or. Yeah, well, before I answer, does anyone have some wisdom to share?

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Because you guys have been through this. I know many of you have. Hey, Mary, and I see your hand.

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Yeah, I think for me, Bridget, even with the one minute videos, I found that I have to think about

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it in my mind, everything clear in my mind. Yes, I have things in order and then can speak on live

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because because I know what I'm going to say. I have an understanding. I just go out and I have

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a list and think it through first. Then then I just get muddled. You know, that's what I do.

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Write it out and then I kind of the more I do it, the better it seems to come for the flow.

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But then when I look back at the videos, it looks very presented and it doesn't look

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conversational. And that's what everybody keeps saying. You've got to be talking to a person or

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somebody specific. And I feel like the more polished it is, the more perfect it looks, which

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is not natural. So there's this kind of balance of I don't know, it's just getting it, making it

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like like one of the ladies here said, just pretend you're talking to somebody on FaceTime

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and then let it just go. But that isn't like that because you.

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you're talking to somebody you can see their facial response and you can see that they're

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getting it and that encourages you so I don't think there's I mean I have to do this it's

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just something I realized that's why I'm here because I realized this has been my who's going

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to be on on social media and in short content so Bridget I can say I mean I'm I struggled with the

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whole perfectionism thing you know for a very very long time and um and it's just a journey

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and I do think there's a stretching and a growing that has happened with me in releasing the

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the imperfect yes yes to the holy spirit can use that and that I mean and that happens in the

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journey of just getting in front of the camera and somewhere in there you fall in love with

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the people on the other side of the screen and that becomes more natural yes yeah I guess as

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you as you picture different people you start seeing their hearts and the need for what you're

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saying I think that's that's probably a driving force you know so well thank you I'm going to

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keep going and in my in my struggles with this I found okay I don't want to be rigid and then I was

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like too grasping for straws and try to remember what it was I was wanting to say my problem with

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with live is that I want to delete it and start over and and I can't um well you you know you

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notice I posted twice because I didn't know how to stop it um yeah the other well and then there

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are then I found out how I could stop it and anybody who is watching me actually live would

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see all these false starts and I just so I think what I want to do in the interim is to just on the

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video on the camera video do it for myself and just practice it a bit for myself because I did

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find after saying it three or four times I was more comfortable and I think this is just a

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temporary thing the other thing is is I was posting um because I'm used to on my laptop

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kingdom messengers getting on the kingdom messengers and posting there but the the live

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posting on the laptop was awkward for me and when I gave up and went ahead and did it on my camera

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I saw how much easier it was to post and to like discard it and all of that so just knowing that

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it's going to be easier on the camera has helped me a lot but I saw all you like Monica yes it gets

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easier I think yeah and Marianne's saying he has to say it three or four times and you get comfortable

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with it I think we'll get through that we don't want to be stilted but we do want to be not

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grasping for words all the time I guess it's that balance that I'm trying to find there though

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well thanks for that encouragement yeah so this is an important conversation guys because um

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there's layers and levels to all that we're doing right so for some of us it's going live for others

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of us it's taking on a new platform for others it's going to be doing a new business venture

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or building a ministry we never thought would come to fruition you know there's there's going to be

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those times when like it it's not just hard but it's bringing out negative emotions in us

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you know it's bringing out either a sadness or a frustration or a discouragement or a disappointment

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and I am learning and I want to give Ashley she's not on this call today but I want to give Ashley

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Nicole Perez credit because she's but she has been a friend and a mentor who started to walk me

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through this is those negative emotions are attached to an unbelief so it's not wrong to

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feel a negative emotion in fact I am realizing that it's actually negative emotions are a gift

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from God and that he gives us in order so that we can release pain like so we actually have an

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outlet I think some of us have learned me included that we think that if some if I'm feeling bad

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about something that means something is bad about me and that's not true that's shame right

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not that I'm just doing something wrong but something is inherently wrong with me

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and that's an identity issue we should take that very seriously not like beat ourselves up with it

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but we should allow ourselves to fully this is what this is what Ashley's been teaching me I

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do want to give her full credit and what I'm practicing and finding great breakthrough in

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is like allow that allow that emotion to fully be expressed do it with the Lord right and ask

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the Holy Spirit to lead you and guide you into the truth of what is this

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What unbelief is attached to this emotion?

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What am I not believing about myself?

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I know that was for me, especially when I started off with posture.

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I did not feel safe putting my face out on the internet, right?

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It felt very exposing.

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It felt very at times.

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I felt like I was setting myself up for, you know, ridicule and

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criticism and you know, feedback that was like not helpful, but the

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Lord had walked me, the Lord walked me through that process with

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him, but I had to allow myself to feel it, right?

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I couldn't just say this, I'm fine.

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Everything's fine.

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This is fine.

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That's avoidance.

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That's bypassing the beautiful opportunity to bring something to

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the Lord and surrender it to him fully so that we experience

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breakthrough freedom and healing and wholeness like that conversation

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has to be had.

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up some negative emotion in me, whether it's frustration or

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disappointment or discouragement or just sadness or anxiety, like

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whatever it is, ask the Lord to illuminate.

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Lord, is it something I'm believing about you?

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I was believing that I was unsafe.

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holding against the Lord.

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Like you're not going to protect me in this.

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You've called me to this place and you're leaving me uncovered and

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shielded though.

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I was not consciously thinking that that's what was manifesting,

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right?

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disqualified.

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I felt like I couldn't keep this up that I was walking on Terry.

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I was walking into territory that I could not maintain and that wasn't

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true either.

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But and I and I I think it's because there is always more to overcome

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and that's a good thing, right?

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There's no arrival point.

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This is a journey as we overcome.

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We will continue to overcome with the Lord.

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We become more than conquerors in one area and he moves us to a next

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and it's not a it's not something that's supposed to that.

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It's not it's not to our demise.

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I want to say that right?

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because again, we internalize this we think we take on shame and

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condemnation.

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wrong with me and it's actually a new adventure with the Lord.

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healing.

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So as we were writing down the vision this week, and I know some of

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you guys are continuing in that exercise and we're going to have

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some space because there's like kind of an extra month.

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I'm an extra week in this month, but I want to talk a little bit

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about, you know, before we here's what happens typically when we

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start writing visions down.

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we focus solely on this right here on this piece of paper.

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It means now I must go do all these things.

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should be this is about what I now must go be.

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What I now now must become right?

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you know talking about, you know, perhaps a brick-and-mortar situation

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like a place like a physical location people can come or talking

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about like an atmosphere that she wants to create and she wants to

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steward like it's not about okay now.

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I got to go think about finding property.

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I got to think about ordering furniture.

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conversations with him about is who now must I become to walk in the

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fullness of this vision of this dream and spoil alert.

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We're becoming like him.

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Who are you?

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This should bring us to a greater awareness of him.

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This is what abiding is right?

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This is not this is not about us now having to strive and struggle

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to make something a reality doesn't mean it's going to be easy light.

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There's like some hard things we have to tackle and take on there's

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some practical things but what will happen if we primarily first

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focus on that internal territory, which includes a greater awareness

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of who God is and then who we're becoming in him is we will build

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an internal foundation that can carry the weight of all the doing

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that's required.

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I know I mentioned it.

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Last week a little bit.

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I just want to read it.

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I just, I love this psalm.

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I think it's, you know,

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I'm just going to adopt it as another life verse of mine.

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"'Keep me safe, my God, for in you I take refuge.

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I say to the Lord, you are my Lord.

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Apart from you, I have no good thing.

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I say of the holy people who are in the land,

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they are the noble ones in whom is all my delight.

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Those who run after other gods will suffer more and more.

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I will not pour out libations of blood to such gods

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or take up their names on my lips.

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Lord, you alone are my portion and my cup.

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You make my lot secure.

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The boundary lines have fallen for me in pleasant places.

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Surely I have a delightful inheritance.

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I will praise the Lord who counsels me.

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Even at night, my heart instructs me.

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I keep my eyes always on the Lord.

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With him at my right hand, I will not be shaken.

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Therefore, my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices.

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My body also will rest secure

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because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead,

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nor will you let your faithful ones see decay.

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You make known to me the path of life.

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You will fill me with joy in your presence

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with eternal pleasures at your right hand.'"

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So this is the New King James Version.

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I want to point out a few things.

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I mean, any translation is, you know,

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you can read your favorite translation.

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I just, I love this Psalm because it talks about

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so much of what we're doing right now.

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David is saying what I'm going to do,

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what I'm not going to do.

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He talks about who the Lord is and who he is.

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David calls himself the faithful one.

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He talks about who the Lord is

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and who the Lord is going to be for him.

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This is key, okay?

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in these terms of, you know, we read in scripture.

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Graham Cook says it this way.

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We read in scripture the promises

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and we think about the one-sided implication.

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So we think about what that means for me,

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but we don't always think about the implications for God.

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then that implies that he carries some responsibility,

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right?

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It's not, but we always take it of like,

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what must I now go do to be healed?

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We don't rest in the truth and the trust of God as my healer

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so I love how David even just addresses the Lord

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and he's like, hey, you're my portion, you're my cup.

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I love how the Passion Translation puts it.

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He says, Lord, you are my prize, my pleasure and my portion

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and he talks about, and that translation talks about,

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you know, I love how it says that it says,

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my destiny and its timing are in your hands.

423
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Like he totally puts it back over on the Lord

424
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because he knows who the Lord is.

425
00:33:05.380 --> 00:33:07.540
He has such security that he's like, hey,

426
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I'm making a call on your character

427
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because this is who you said you are.

428
00:33:11.900 --> 00:33:14.140
Like he's not dictating to the Lord

429
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or like commanding his hand necessarily,

430
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but he's saying like, I am so secure in who you said you are

431
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that this is what I call you.

432
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This is how I see you, this is my perspective.

433
00:33:24.140 --> 00:33:25.500
I wanna point out verse three.

434
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I just think this is really fun.

435
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I say of the holy people who are in the land,

436
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they are the noble ones in whom is all my delight.

437
00:33:33.100 --> 00:33:35.340
I've carried this verse in my heart for years.

438
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I used to do work with a lot of church leaders,

439
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names you would know, some names you wouldn't know,

440
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but I carried this in my heart

441
00:33:43.220 --> 00:33:45.860
when I first started working with them.

442
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The New Living Translation says it this way.

443
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It says the godly people in the land are my true heroes.

444
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The godly people in the land.

445
00:33:55.460 --> 00:33:59.380
And it was a sweet time for me, a sweet season.

446
00:33:59.380 --> 00:34:01.460
It was not an easy season, but it was a sweet time

447
00:34:01.460 --> 00:34:05.900
because I began to transfer affection,

448
00:34:05.900 --> 00:34:07.980
not affection that was due only the Lord,

449
00:34:07.980 --> 00:34:10.340
but just affection of people in that time.

450
00:34:10.340 --> 00:34:13.580
Like the godly people in the land truly became my heroes

451
00:34:13.580 --> 00:34:14.820
because I got to see them up close.

452
00:34:14.820 --> 00:34:16.460
People say when you get to see those people up close,

453
00:34:16.460 --> 00:34:17.340
you get disillusioned,

454
00:34:17.340 --> 00:34:20.179
but I got to see some really cool things behind closed doors.

455
00:34:20.179 --> 00:34:23.940
These people that have really amazing public ministries

456
00:34:23.940 --> 00:34:26.900
doing amazing things that no one would ever see.

457
00:34:26.900 --> 00:34:28.260
And it really solidified in me.

458
00:34:28.260 --> 00:34:29.100
You know what?

459
00:34:29.100 --> 00:34:30.739
There's worldly celebrities

460
00:34:30.739 --> 00:34:32.060
that if they walk through the door,

461
00:34:32.060 --> 00:34:34.659
I would honor them as another person,

462
00:34:34.659 --> 00:34:35.820
but I would not fall on the floor.

463
00:34:35.820 --> 00:34:38.460
But oh my goodness, if Bill Johnson walked in the room,

464
00:34:38.460 --> 00:34:41.020
I might start bursting out into tears.

465
00:34:41.020 --> 00:34:42.620
And it was just a really sweet time for me

466
00:34:42.620 --> 00:34:44.420
as a young 20 something to realize

467
00:34:44.980 --> 00:34:46.500
that there's a godly in the land.

468
00:34:46.500 --> 00:34:50.620
Again, some names we know, some names I only know

469
00:34:50.620 --> 00:34:53.060
because of what they poured into my personal life.

470
00:34:53.060 --> 00:34:55.179
But it wasn't about the size of their ministry,

471
00:34:55.179 --> 00:34:57.900
it was about the goodness in their heart

472
00:34:57.900 --> 00:34:58.980
and how they carried that.

473
00:34:58.980 --> 00:35:00.580
And so David's saying,

474
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I've decided this is how I'm going,

475
00:35:00.580 --> 00:35:02.580
hey, I am a Godly person.

476
00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:03.400
this is a boundary for me.

477
00:35:02.580 --> 00:35:03.980
I am a Godly person.

478
00:35:03.980 --> 00:35:06.020
And so, I'm not just saying that

479
00:35:04.380 --> 00:35:07.780
Like the godly in the land are gonna be my heroes.

480
00:35:06.020 --> 00:35:07.620
because I'm a Godly person,

481
00:35:07.620 --> 00:35:09.500
but because I am a Godly person.

482
00:35:07.780 --> 00:35:09.780
I'm not going to get bogged down

483
00:35:09.500 --> 00:35:11.820
And I really think that is the beauty of it.

484
00:35:09.780 --> 00:35:13.560
with worldly platforms, positions, titles.

485
00:35:14.460 --> 00:35:16.960
And I'm definitely giving no space to false idols,

486
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:19.900
false gods, or tradition.

487
00:35:19.900 --> 00:35:21.940
It's like, this is what I'm gonna participate in

488
00:35:21.940 --> 00:35:24.220
and this is what I'm not participating in.

489
00:35:24.220 --> 00:35:25.780
These are some boundaries, right?

490
00:35:25.780 --> 00:35:29.320
As we become, these are some fun conversations to have.

491
00:35:29.340 --> 00:35:31.540
Now, what I don't want us to do is start thinking

492
00:35:31.540 --> 00:35:34.000
about like these rules and regulations

493
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:35.140
that if we write them down,

494
00:35:35.140 --> 00:35:37.420
it means for the next 20 years we're giving our lives to

495
00:35:37.420 --> 00:35:38.980
and we're gonna become legalistic about them.

496
00:35:38.980 --> 00:35:40.600
Like that's not freedom.

497
00:35:40.600 --> 00:35:43.320
And ultimately the religious spirit will get ahold of that

498
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.500
and pervert things, right?

499
00:35:45.500 --> 00:35:49.000
This is about having a dynamic conversation

500
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.700
with the godhead about what are some lifestyle choices

501
00:35:52.700 --> 00:35:56.260
that I'm going to make as I become

502
00:35:56.260 --> 00:35:59.220
so that my boundary lines fall in pleasant places.

503
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:01.560
And I'm not getting distracted by the wrong things.

504
00:36:01.560 --> 00:36:05.640
I'm not getting caught up in assignments that aren't mine.

505
00:36:05.640 --> 00:36:08.120
I'm not comparing myself to others.

506
00:36:08.120 --> 00:36:11.040
Like this is a freeing conversation.

507
00:36:11.040 --> 00:36:14.200
So I'll give you an example from my own life.

508
00:36:14.200 --> 00:36:15.840
Cause I think that sometimes that's helpful.

509
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:17.340
Like Bruce and I are in a season,

510
00:36:17.340 --> 00:36:19.480
like we've written some visions down

511
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:20.600
and you guys have been a part of those.

512
00:36:20.600 --> 00:36:21.720
You've seen kind of how we've grown

513
00:36:21.720 --> 00:36:23.160
Kingdom Messengers, for instance,

514
00:36:23.160 --> 00:36:24.560
and where's other things that we're wanting to do

515
00:36:24.560 --> 00:36:27.400
in business and with tech and all that stuff, right?

516
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:29.500
And we realized as we wrote the vision down

517
00:36:29.500 --> 00:36:30.340
and we were thinking, okay,

518
00:36:30.340 --> 00:36:34.780
who must we become in order to like fully take

519
00:36:34.780 --> 00:36:37.660
on this vision in a way that doesn't crush us?

520
00:36:37.660 --> 00:36:39.640
We realized, okay, there's some internal territory

521
00:36:39.640 --> 00:36:41.180
that we need to focus on.

522
00:36:41.180 --> 00:36:43.220
And there's some healing and wholeness

523
00:36:43.220 --> 00:36:44.860
that we need to focus on.

524
00:36:44.860 --> 00:36:47.100
Bruce's smiling at me from across the room.

525
00:36:47.100 --> 00:36:48.300
He's listening in.

526
00:36:48.300 --> 00:36:51.900
And so we realized like we have to actually be intentional.

527
00:36:51.900 --> 00:36:52.780
Like if we're saying, hey,

528
00:36:52.780 --> 00:36:55.260
here's some things that we want to find wholeness in.

529
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:57.240
We need to be intentional

530
00:36:57.240 --> 00:36:58.960
about not just making a powerful choice,

531
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:01.080
but opening ourself up to resources

532
00:37:01.080 --> 00:37:03.720
for healing and wholeness, right?

533
00:37:03.720 --> 00:37:06.400
It doesn't mean everything has to be in crisis mode.

534
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:08.840
It's not, like we don't feel like we're in crisis mode,

535
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:10.640
which sometimes can be deceiving

536
00:37:10.640 --> 00:37:13.000
because we think, well, it's fine.

537
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.000
We just realized, we just kind of saw

538
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:16.120
where the Lord was taking us.

539
00:37:16.120 --> 00:37:19.040
And we realized, oh, there's some becoming

540
00:37:19.040 --> 00:37:20.600
that has to take place.

541
00:37:20.600 --> 00:37:24.040
And that's not gonna happen in isolation.

542
00:37:24.940 --> 00:37:26.820
That's not gonna happen.

543
00:37:26.820 --> 00:37:29.940
Like what we're doing is public.

544
00:37:29.940 --> 00:37:32.260
So there needs to be some,

545
00:37:32.260 --> 00:37:34.580
us opening ourselves up to some spiritual fathers

546
00:37:34.580 --> 00:37:35.900
and mothers right now,

547
00:37:35.900 --> 00:37:37.100
so that things aren't just like,

548
00:37:37.100 --> 00:37:39.460
we're not just like rolling with the punches.

549
00:37:39.460 --> 00:37:40.980
And like, we look back 20 years from now,

550
00:37:40.980 --> 00:37:43.380
we're like, wow, like that crushed us.

551
00:37:43.380 --> 00:37:45.300
We had no idea because we had no one,

552
00:37:45.300 --> 00:37:46.780
we didn't have enough outside voices

553
00:37:46.780 --> 00:37:48.300
speaking into our lives, right?

554
00:37:48.300 --> 00:37:50.020
So we're now opening, we're in a season,

555
00:37:50.020 --> 00:37:52.020
we're like, okay, these are the boundaries.

556
00:37:52.020 --> 00:37:54.920
Like we need to be talking to people on a regular basis.

557
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:56.640
We need to be sharing our lives

558
00:37:56.640 --> 00:37:58.960
with more spiritual fathers and mothers.

559
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:00.860
We need to be getting some input.

560
00:38:00.860 --> 00:38:04.320
Like, so we need to pursue that.

561
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.480
And isn't it amazing how when you make a powerful choice

562
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.880
to do something, resources seem to open up.

563
00:38:12.180 --> 00:38:14.540
Whether it's provision to pay for the resources

564
00:38:14.540 --> 00:38:19.540
or just people and like partnerships and communities.

565
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.120
Like I would bet that some of you were carrying,

566
00:38:25.120 --> 00:38:26.520
like I love Marian's story.

567
00:38:26.520 --> 00:38:27.480
That's a perfect example

568
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:28.880
of how she came into Kingdom Messengers.

569
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:30.680
Marian felt like she had a word from the Lord.

570
00:38:30.680 --> 00:38:32.120
She shared it with her pastor.

571
00:38:32.120 --> 00:38:33.920
She was making a powerful choice of like, hey,

572
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and then there's like resource came available.

573
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.080
So many people have that story, right?

574
00:38:38.080 --> 00:38:39.840
Of like, hey, I was praying about this

575
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:41.040
or I've been carrying this in my heart.

576
00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:43.740
And then I got an ad on Facebook about Kingdom Messengers.

577
00:38:43.740 --> 00:38:47.080
And as much as I would love to credit our marketing genius,

578
00:38:47.080 --> 00:38:50.120
we know that the Holy Spirit was up to something.

579
00:38:50.120 --> 00:38:51.240
And that was our prayer too.

580
00:38:51.240 --> 00:38:53.980
Lord, bring us people that we can receive.

581
00:38:53.980 --> 00:38:57.020
We want people that you want in this program

582
00:38:57.020 --> 00:38:59.420
for such a time as this, right?

583
00:38:59.420 --> 00:39:02.740
So kind of what I want you to be thinking about

584
00:39:02.740 --> 00:39:04.740
as you're writing the vision is start to,

585
00:39:04.740 --> 00:39:07.020
don't start thinking about all the things you must do.

586
00:39:07.020 --> 00:39:09.660
That will come, but start asking the Lord,

587
00:39:09.660 --> 00:39:12.140
like who must I become?

588
00:39:13.060 --> 00:39:16.540
And a way to maybe identify

589
00:39:16.540 --> 00:39:18.700
like where there might be areas of becoming

590
00:39:19.680 --> 00:39:23.080
is there some negative emotions attached?

591
00:39:23.080 --> 00:39:25.160
Are there things coming up?

592
00:39:25.160 --> 00:39:26.680
Am I feeling frustrated?

593
00:39:26.680 --> 00:39:28.540
Am I feeling triggered by things?

594
00:39:28.540 --> 00:39:30.160
Are there some reoccurring triggers

595
00:39:30.160 --> 00:39:31.400
that continue to come up?

596
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:34.200
Because there, there might be some places

597
00:39:34.200 --> 00:39:36.400
that the Holy Spirit is like putting his finger on

598
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:39.640
and saying, hey, I want to reveal something here to heal.

599
00:39:40.560 --> 00:39:44.200
I wanna open up some resource for you in this area

600
00:39:44.200 --> 00:39:46.600
so that there's healing and wholeness

601
00:39:46.620 --> 00:39:49.220
or there's expansion that takes place

602
00:39:49.220 --> 00:39:51.300
because this area has become too small

603
00:39:51.300 --> 00:39:53.980
and it's, we're moving into a new season in this area.

604
00:39:53.980 --> 00:39:56.100
So we need to expand into some things.

605
00:39:58.220 --> 00:40:00.620
So that is like, that's not something that I can.

606
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.160
prescribed to you, right, because it's going to be different for each of you based on where you are

607
00:40:04.160 --> 00:40:11.520
with the Lord and what you're visualizing. But it's time, you know, in a new season,

608
00:40:11.520 --> 00:40:16.160
as we enter into new places, as we advance into new things, like there's upgrades to our

609
00:40:16.160 --> 00:40:22.640
perspective that are going to be taking place. There's greater awareness of our intimacy with

610
00:40:22.640 --> 00:40:27.440
the Lord and like what that entails, what that means, like things are opening up to me like,

611
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:33.840
wow, Lord, I never saw you in this, I never saw you this way. I probably read a million scriptures

612
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:39.440
about you being this, but I never, I never took that on for myself. Like the Lord's gentleness

613
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:45.120
to me in this season, like I knew the Lord was gentle, like knew it, but did I know it?

614
00:40:47.600 --> 00:40:55.040
And guess what? As I receive his gentleness, I am becoming gentle with myself

615
00:40:55.600 --> 00:40:59.520
and with other people and it's starting to overflow out of my life. And

616
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:09.200
courage, safety, you know, those are things right now that I'm beginning to expand in,

617
00:41:09.200 --> 00:41:15.840
like not just here, not just knowing, but knowing, knowing. So let me get some feedback

618
00:41:16.560 --> 00:41:21.440
from you guys. Is this resonating? I see some head nods.

619
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:28.160
So no disagreement, you guys are tracking, like this is something that we need to

620
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:30.880
give some time to, right?

621
00:41:34.560 --> 00:41:40.960
Boundaries aren't always restrictions, sometimes boundaries are opening us up to things as well.

622
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:47.440
Yeah. I can say something. Yeah. You know, this is so good, Lindsay. Thank you. I think that

623
00:41:48.240 --> 00:41:54.720
sometimes we think we healed in an area until we get tested. And I think that, you know,

624
00:41:54.720 --> 00:41:59.520
I always use it when I was at seminary and we at Bible college and they did the thing of inner

625
00:41:59.520 --> 00:42:04.960
healing. I like to use the example that when you're in an accident, you get, you know, you get

626
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:09.280
your breathing back and, you know, you get to, you know, obviously you have to get the blood flow

627
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:14.400
under control and then they take care of that. But then sometimes weeks and months later, you go

628
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:19.600
back into a surgery to get, you know, another level. Sometimes it's more like the plastic

629
00:42:19.600 --> 00:42:24.880
surgery, the cosmetic surgery. And I think that is what sometimes happens with us. The Lord heals

630
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:28.800
something because that's what we can handle at the time. And we get our breathing, we get our

631
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:33.520
routine get going. But then I think sometimes when you get into a platform like this, especially when

632
00:42:33.520 --> 00:42:38.240
you're a leader, there's another layer that you need so that you can be stronger and kind of

633
00:42:38.240 --> 00:42:43.360
looking good. Not that it's a, not about the cosmetic thing, but sometimes the Lord just

634
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:47.680
requires another layer of healing because of the weight that we're going to be carrying.

635
00:42:47.680 --> 00:42:53.760
And I think that that is such a healthy perspective to take because, you know, we think we're good

636
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:59.280
until we have a heavy burden that you need to carry or weight of ministry. And I think this

637
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:02.960
is a great time to go and get our hearts, you know, before the Lord and not, not that we have

638
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:07.520
to go digging. That is anything that we need to do. I think the Lord in his kindness will

639
00:43:07.520 --> 00:43:13.680
bring things to life that we need to do. We need to carry. Yeah. Yeah. There's definitely,

640
00:43:13.680 --> 00:43:18.800
I love that. I love that perspective of, you know, what can we handle now? So I see the goodness of

641
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:23.440
God in that because, and I know I quote Graham a lot. You guys know that, but I always try to

642
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:29.120
give credit if I can remember who taught me what they taught me, but like he talks about, you know,

643
00:43:29.120 --> 00:43:32.960
slow learning is great learning. And often the Holy spirit's working with you on one thing at a

644
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:41.280
time. And so you can take, you have permission to take that pace. It doesn't have to be 10 things.

645
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:47.840
It might be just the one thing. It could just be one or two things. And it might be something that

646
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:52.800
you're learning all year long, right? There's no, what we, what we try to do is we try to speed up

647
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:56.400
the, like the Lord literally, I think I share this with you guys. Lord literally told me like,

648
00:43:56.400 --> 00:44:00.800
you're I'm doing open heart surgery right now. And I need you not to jump off the table prematurely

649
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:06.720
because it's uncomfortable to be cut open. Right. And it feels very raw and very vulnerable,

650
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:12.960
but I trust the surgeon and the surgeon gets to tell me when I can come off the table, right?

651
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:20.640
Not me, the patient, and it's going to be a little messy and that's okay. I think the

652
00:44:20.640 --> 00:44:27.200
Lord provides us with some safe spaces and people in the messiness. What we don't want to happen to

653
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:32.640
your point, mom is we don't want that to, we don't want that to overflow into the people that

654
00:44:32.640 --> 00:44:37.840
we're trying to serve. Right. We might have had that happen to us before with previous mentors

655
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.480
or leaders where it's like, they're dumping, they're dumping their stuff on you. And like

656
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:49.360
the grace is flowing in the wrong way. And it's, it's coming across weird. And I, I don't know who

657
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:55.440
said this and I wish I could give them credit, but someone once I heard someone say

658
00:44:57.360 --> 00:44:59.920
in leadership, show your scars, not your wish.

659
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:07.620
Because if you're dealing with a wound, you need to be on the receiving end of some healing.

660
00:45:07.620 --> 00:45:10.940
You need to be submit yourself to some leadership.

661
00:45:10.940 --> 00:45:12.780
But if there's scars, there's a place of victory.

662
00:45:12.780 --> 00:45:18.260
Hey, I have experience in this and I've had and I've experienced some healing.

663
00:45:18.260 --> 00:45:21.260
Let me share with you the testimony of that.

664
00:45:21.260 --> 00:45:22.260
It's different, right?

665
00:45:22.260 --> 00:45:25.860
I think it was actually an unbeliever that shared that.

666
00:45:25.860 --> 00:45:28.860
I think it was like a marketing, maybe Amy Porterfield or something.

667
00:45:28.860 --> 00:45:31.260
I'm sorry, I don't remember.

668
00:45:31.260 --> 00:45:32.260
But I like that wisdom.

669
00:45:32.260 --> 00:45:34.740
I think it's healthy wisdom.

670
00:45:34.740 --> 00:45:41.140
And guys, I know there's resistance sometimes to things that sound negative, but this isn't

671
00:45:41.140 --> 00:45:42.140
negative.

672
00:45:42.140 --> 00:45:43.140
This is just our journey with the Lord.

673
00:45:43.140 --> 00:45:46.900
Sometimes we're going to have wounds and scars at the same time.

674
00:45:46.900 --> 00:45:53.300
A wound doesn't disqualify you from leadership or ministry or doing any kind of output if

675
00:45:53.300 --> 00:45:57.180
you are in a receiving mode with that area of your life, and you're receiving wisdom

676
00:45:57.180 --> 00:46:01.340
and you're receiving healing and you're receiving leadership and mentorship.

677
00:46:01.340 --> 00:46:05.260
There's going to be valleys and mountains sometimes in the same seasons of life.

678
00:46:05.260 --> 00:46:06.260
That's okay.

679
00:46:06.260 --> 00:46:08.620
It doesn't disqualify you.

680
00:46:08.620 --> 00:46:12.980
Now if there are seasons where you're like, hey, I just need to take a break from any

681
00:46:12.980 --> 00:46:16.660
output and I need 100% input, absolutely.

682
00:46:16.660 --> 00:46:18.500
There's nothing wrong with that either.

683
00:46:18.500 --> 00:46:23.340
But often, I just had a conversation with someone a couple of weeks ago and they were

684
00:46:23.500 --> 00:46:28.380
battling because they're like, I feel so called to do this mothering movement, but I feel

685
00:46:28.380 --> 00:46:31.660
like I have some wounds still that I need healing and therefore I don't feel qualified

686
00:46:31.660 --> 00:46:34.220
to even start mentoring mothers.

687
00:46:34.220 --> 00:46:41.860
And I'm like, this is a person that is solid, full of wisdom, full of grace, could be helping

688
00:46:41.860 --> 00:46:46.980
some people right now, but she feels like she has to be all healed up 100% completely.

689
00:46:46.980 --> 00:46:51.340
She's waiting for an arrival point and there's no arrival.

690
00:46:51.340 --> 00:46:52.340
There's glory to glory.

691
00:46:52.340 --> 00:46:55.300
There's continuing layers and levels.

692
00:46:55.300 --> 00:46:56.300
And so, yeah.

693
00:46:56.300 --> 00:47:02.860
So anyone else have anything they want to add or share?

694
00:47:02.860 --> 00:47:09.620
I really like what you're saying, Lindsay, because just in the part of don't feel like

695
00:47:09.620 --> 00:47:16.820
you have to jump into do all of the things, when I was going over my vision for the future,

696
00:47:16.820 --> 00:47:24.060
it ended up being started off kind of with me, but then it moved quickly into legacy

697
00:47:24.060 --> 00:47:30.740
and it moved into what I'm planting now and my children will be doing.

698
00:47:30.740 --> 00:47:35.820
And so I was like, I'm not ready for that quite yet.

699
00:47:35.820 --> 00:47:40.380
So there's a process just like you're talking about it really that kind of unfolding before

700
00:47:40.380 --> 00:47:46.780
my eyes like, wow, there is a lot happening right now in my life that's creating those

701
00:47:47.740 --> 00:47:57.220
scars for me to be ready to share with the kids, this is how we deal when these kinds

702
00:47:57.220 --> 00:48:02.180
of things happen and I'm able to model that for them.

703
00:48:02.180 --> 00:48:06.660
And then eventually they'll start taking on certain roles that are very important.

704
00:48:06.660 --> 00:48:12.380
So for me, that was huge just to understand that it doesn't start and end with me, but

705
00:48:12.380 --> 00:48:14.740
that there is so much more.

706
00:48:14.740 --> 00:48:19.540
In this case, I'm talking about my kids, but then also it's my who, there's a legacy in

707
00:48:19.540 --> 00:48:26.420
my who that I'm depositing those seeds as I'm fulfilling what the Lord has called me

708
00:48:26.420 --> 00:48:27.420
to do.

709
00:48:27.420 --> 00:48:29.980
So that was very exciting, very eye opening to me.

710
00:48:29.980 --> 00:48:30.980
Yeah.

711
00:48:30.980 --> 00:48:36.100
I mean, that's such a great point because they're spiritual kids, right?

712
00:48:36.100 --> 00:48:41.140
Like we should all be thinking about what it looks like to multiply ourselves into spiritual

713
00:48:41.140 --> 00:48:45.900
sons and daughters, because there's been way too many ministries, in my opinion, wonderful,

714
00:48:45.900 --> 00:48:50.500
fabulous ministries that have died with the fathers and mothers, because there was no

715
00:48:50.500 --> 00:48:55.780
sons and daughters raised in the ministries.

716
00:48:55.780 --> 00:49:01.260
And so if we're going to be thinking like, you know, sons and daughters of God, like

717
00:49:01.260 --> 00:49:06.620
there's inheritance, like that's a kingdom principle, that's a kingdom thing.

718
00:49:06.620 --> 00:49:09.660
Like we've inherited and we leave inheritance.

719
00:49:10.180 --> 00:49:10.940
Hey, Marian.

720
00:49:12.260 --> 00:49:12.780
Yeah.

721
00:49:14.020 --> 00:49:20.540
I know that I've been battling for the last two months, but what I know is that if we

722
00:49:20.540 --> 00:49:26.660
are going up to a new level, there's things that we can't take with us because the enemy

723
00:49:26.660 --> 00:49:30.500
will find those little weaknesses and that's where we'll come under attack.

724
00:49:30.980 --> 00:49:37.820
And so I believe that God in his wisdom at these times is targeting those weaknesses,

725
00:49:37.820 --> 00:49:44.980
those areas where we're weak so that we will have to battle and gain strength in those

726
00:49:44.980 --> 00:49:49.180
areas. And so that we're ready to go into that next season and step out.

727
00:49:50.180 --> 00:49:51.060
That's really good.

728
00:49:52.780 --> 00:49:55.100
Healing, but it's not always healing.

729
00:49:55.100 --> 00:49:58.580
In my case, God brought memories back from 22 years ago.

730
00:49:59.380 --> 00:49:59.820
And.

731
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:01.680
I thought, I've dealt with all of that.

732
00:50:01.680 --> 00:50:03.000
It's all forgiven.

733
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:08.000
But what he enabled me to see as I went through it again

734
00:50:08.560 --> 00:50:11.840
was that I had placed responsibility

735
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:14.240
for something on somebody

736
00:50:14.240 --> 00:50:17.200
and realized that wasn't anything to do with them.

737
00:50:17.200 --> 00:50:19.040
They were just following orders.

738
00:50:19.040 --> 00:50:22.240
And so he changed my picture of what happened.

739
00:50:22.240 --> 00:50:27.240
And it's like, this is the picture he gave me for Hohan.

740
00:50:27.680 --> 00:50:31.200
My sink's been really slow for a long time in my kitchen

741
00:50:31.200 --> 00:50:33.200
and it stopped right up.

742
00:50:33.200 --> 00:50:35.120
And all of a sudden I got this thought,

743
00:50:35.120 --> 00:50:36.880
I should go and get the plunger.

744
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:39.200
Why I haven't done that in the last few years,

745
00:50:39.200 --> 00:50:40.800
I don't know, but I did.

746
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:43.400
And all of a sudden this whoosh,

747
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:45.280
everything emptied out.

748
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:47.760
It was like, that's what he was doing.

749
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:50.400
It was symbolic.

750
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:52.320
And the stuff he has to empty out

751
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:53.840
so that we're not a target.

752
00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:57.320
I love that visual of a spiritual plunger.

753
00:50:58.600 --> 00:50:59.440
Because we're getting, guys,

754
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.240
part of this is we're getting unstuck.

755
00:51:02.160 --> 00:51:03.400
We're getting unstuck.

756
00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:06.880
So healing is physical, it's mental.

757
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:08.160
There's also healing.

758
00:51:08.160 --> 00:51:11.480
I believe there's like a healing of memories

759
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:13.440
where I love how Marion, I love that you said,

760
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.200
I saw it differently.

761
00:51:15.200 --> 00:51:17.360
I had a healed perspective.

762
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:19.520
I saw it clearly.

763
00:51:19.520 --> 00:51:20.480
That's amazing.

764
00:51:20.720 --> 00:51:22.840
Okay, so this is what I want us to focus on.

765
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:24.160
I feel like we need some,

766
00:51:24.160 --> 00:51:26.280
some of us need more time for writing the vision down.

767
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:28.640
So we'll be, you know, if you haven't done that already,

768
00:51:28.640 --> 00:51:31.760
or if you're just started doing that, do it.

769
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:34.840
And then included in that exercise is let's start,

770
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:36.320
like start talking to the Lord

771
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:39.120
about this boundary of who must I become.

772
00:51:39.120 --> 00:51:40.600
And it can be fun.

773
00:51:40.600 --> 00:51:43.800
It doesn't just have to be like, that's the one question.

774
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:45.520
Like there could be multiple questions.

775
00:51:45.520 --> 00:51:47.600
Like this could include like,

776
00:51:47.600 --> 00:51:49.640
what do I need to do to be healed?

777
00:51:50.080 --> 00:51:52.120
What do I need to start participating in?

778
00:51:52.120 --> 00:51:54.160
What do I need to stop participating in?

779
00:51:55.640 --> 00:51:57.880
You know, what should I open myself up to?

780
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.000
What do I need to like shut the door on?

781
00:52:01.160 --> 00:52:03.520
And some of this guys, I was gonna share,

782
00:52:03.520 --> 00:52:05.720
I was gonna share an example,

783
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:09.680
but I don't want it to get rowdy in here.

784
00:52:09.680 --> 00:52:14.160
I just, it doesn't always, it's not always character.

785
00:52:14.160 --> 00:52:16.680
Okay, sometimes it's like,

786
00:52:20.640 --> 00:52:22.080
I'm not going to buy these things.

787
00:52:22.080 --> 00:52:23.400
I'm not gonna spend my money

788
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:25.040
on these types of things anymore.

789
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:28.720
Or I'm not gonna celebrate this type of thing anymore.

790
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:32.200
Or I'm not going to,

791
00:52:34.640 --> 00:52:35.720
I'm not going to give,

792
00:52:35.720 --> 00:52:38.520
I'm not gonna spend my time here anymore.

793
00:52:38.520 --> 00:52:41.440
Whether that's with certain relationships

794
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:43.760
that aren't serving you for this season,

795
00:52:44.720 --> 00:52:47.120
or maybe it's just hobbies.

796
00:52:47.560 --> 00:52:52.440
Maybe it's, and this isn't about like becoming,

797
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:54.720
this isn't time management, okay?

798
00:52:55.680 --> 00:52:57.360
This isn't time management.

799
00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:59.000
This is about, I want this to,

800
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:01.640
this is about becoming someone.

801
00:53:02.520 --> 00:53:05.200
Would, am the person I'm becoming,

802
00:53:05.200 --> 00:53:07.920
and sometimes we just lose our taste for things.

803
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:09.480
Like we just, you know, it's not like we're,

804
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:11.240
it's not like we're taking away things that we're like,

805
00:53:11.240 --> 00:53:13.200
oh, but I enjoy knitting so much.

806
00:53:13.200 --> 00:53:14.040
I'm not saying that.

807
00:53:14.040 --> 00:53:18.040
It's just, it's not, it's just a matter of,

808
00:53:18.040 --> 00:53:20.640
there's things that I have done

809
00:53:20.640 --> 00:53:21.920
because I've done them for,

810
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:24.800
I've always been known for doing this thing, right?

811
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:26.280
This is just what I do.

812
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:28.360
Okay, perfect example.

813
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.120
There was a season in my life

814
00:53:30.120 --> 00:53:34.040
where I had a lot of people in my life that loved tea.

815
00:53:34.040 --> 00:53:36.080
Okay, they loved drinking tea.

816
00:53:36.080 --> 00:53:37.200
And I saw people in my life,

817
00:53:37.200 --> 00:53:38.600
my mother-in-law loves drinking tea,

818
00:53:38.600 --> 00:53:41.760
but I collected all of these tea cups, right?

819
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:43.280
That I was either given as gifts

820
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:47.080
because I would host like tea parties and showers.

821
00:53:47.080 --> 00:53:48.320
And like my house was like the house

822
00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:50.040
for hosting things, right?

823
00:53:50.040 --> 00:53:53.960
And I, so I had cabinets in my kitchen

824
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:57.280
that I, that were filled with tea cups and tea things.

825
00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.200
And I hadn't used them for three years

826
00:54:00.240 --> 00:54:02.640
because that season and part of that community,

827
00:54:02.640 --> 00:54:04.480
I was no longer with anymore.

828
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.400
And it wasn't like, oh, this bad thing, like the teacup.

829
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:09.960
It was just, oh, I just don't,

830
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:12.120
I don't host as many things anymore.

831
00:54:12.120 --> 00:54:14.400
And I don't foresee myself hosting many things

832
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:16.160
in the future because I'm kind of moving my energies

833
00:54:16.160 --> 00:54:17.440
and time towards different things,

834
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:19.640
different types of communities, et cetera.

835
00:54:19.640 --> 00:54:21.840
So I got rid of the teacups guys.

836
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:24.000
The teacups, I kept some sentimental ones

837
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.760
that were like valuable and gifts, right?

838
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:30.480
But I was surrounding myself with things

839
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:33.680
that were telling me stuff I believed about myself

840
00:54:33.680 --> 00:54:34.960
that was no longer true.

841
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:38.120
It wasn't bad things, but I was holding onto stuff

842
00:54:38.120 --> 00:54:40.720
and I had no room in my kitchen

843
00:54:40.720 --> 00:54:42.720
for the person that I am today

844
00:54:42.720 --> 00:54:44.920
and the way that I needed it to serve my family

845
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:46.120
and where we are in the season.

846
00:54:46.120 --> 00:54:48.960
So I got rid of some stuff, material things.

847
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:51.960
So that's an example of, it might not just be like,

848
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:53.520
oh, I need to be more patient.

849
00:54:53.520 --> 00:54:54.400
It could be that.

850
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:56.880
It might be like, I need to clean out my bedroom.

851
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.120
I need to redecorate my office.

852
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:07.880
because the person that I'm becoming needs space to do this.

853
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:15.920
This is fun. Suzy has over $1,000 in math education books.

854
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:19.100
I think you could still hold on to them.

855
00:55:19.100 --> 00:55:20.640
I'm not telling you you need to hang on to things,

856
00:55:20.640 --> 00:55:23.840
but things are really important topic

857
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:27.440
because I'm having this conversation with my home right now.

858
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:29.040
Because there was a part of me I actually

859
00:55:29.040 --> 00:55:31.240
left behind an old property that we used to live in,

860
00:55:31.240 --> 00:55:35.760
and that was the Lindsay Van Zyl that celebrated seasons.

861
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:39.160
I would get scented soaps for fall,

862
00:55:39.160 --> 00:55:41.240
and spring, and summer.

863
00:55:41.240 --> 00:55:43.200
I didn't just decorate my house for Christmas,

864
00:55:43.200 --> 00:55:44.840
but we decorated for Thanksgiving.

865
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:48.400
But that part of me I just had let go of because we had

866
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:50.920
had nine months of renovations and not

867
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:53.120
really having a house and living in basements.

868
00:55:53.120 --> 00:55:54.280
Then by the time I got to the house,

869
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:57.520
I realized I was tired of houses.

870
00:55:57.520 --> 00:55:59.200
I didn't want to decorate.

871
00:55:59.200 --> 00:56:01.120
What's happened over the last,

872
00:56:01.120 --> 00:56:03.160
we spend so much time in our home, guys.

873
00:56:03.160 --> 00:56:06.920
But what's happened is I had this trigger,

874
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:09.680
this negative emotion that I just stuffed,

875
00:56:09.680 --> 00:56:12.480
and stuffed, and stuffed, and avoided about the house.

876
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:16.640
I never wanted to spend more money on the house or decorations.

877
00:56:16.640 --> 00:56:18.400
It was actually something that used to bring me life,

878
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:21.400
but I didn't want to face the negative emotion.

879
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:23.400
I know this sounds like a weird example,

880
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:25.920
but there's a spiritual principle here.

881
00:56:26.680 --> 00:56:29.000
Just in the last couple of weeks,

882
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:32.560
I've opened myself back up to loving the home that I'm in,

883
00:56:32.560 --> 00:56:35.480
as it is, dense and all,

884
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:37.680
and realizing that, actually,

885
00:56:37.680 --> 00:56:39.560
I'm a powerful enough person to create

886
00:56:39.560 --> 00:56:42.440
a home and a sanctuary for myself and my family.

887
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:44.840
I can take that on.

888
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:48.480
I'm learning that first I need to be at home within myself,

889
00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:51.320
and that was the spiritual upheaval,

890
00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:54.120
is I was no longer at home in myself.

891
00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:56.760
So that happened, and guess what then happened?

892
00:56:56.760 --> 00:56:59.360
My physical face began to transform,

893
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:01.240
and we've decorated for fall now,

894
00:57:01.240 --> 00:57:03.200
and there's a welcome mat out on the door,

895
00:57:03.200 --> 00:57:05.240
and there's just some nice touches

896
00:57:05.240 --> 00:57:06.920
that I've been able to add to my space

897
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:09.720
because I decided I'm becoming this person,

898
00:57:09.720 --> 00:57:12.280
and I'm no longer going to stifle this negative emotion.

899
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:13.320
I'm no longer going to avoid.

900
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:16.360
I'm going to have this conversation with the Lord.

901
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:18.880
So I just wanted to share those examples

902
00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:21.320
because you might see yourself in some of those examples,

903
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:24.800
but it might look something like you weren't expecting,

904
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:27.040
some boundaries that you begin to set,

905
00:57:27.040 --> 00:57:29.880
restrictions and things you open yourself up to,

906
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:32.200
and it can be a fun conversation.

907
00:57:32.200 --> 00:57:35.600
It may not be easy, but it'll be very rewarding,

908
00:57:35.600 --> 00:57:39.400
and there's no limit to the questions you can ask the Lord

909
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:40.360
with this exercise.

910
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:42.560
It just starts with the question of,

911
00:57:42.560 --> 00:57:44.120
Lord, who am I becoming?

912
00:57:44.120 --> 00:57:46.400
And if you get stuck there,

913
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:49.400
go back one and say, Lord, who are you?

914
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:51.360
Can you, like, is there a block?

915
00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:53.560
Am I not seeing you fully in this area?

916
00:57:53.560 --> 00:57:54.800
Like, what does that look like?

917
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:56.480
And then you'll begin to see the trickle-down effect

918
00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:59.440
into your life and your spaces.

919
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:00.440
So this is important, guys.

920
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:03.720
Again, I know that this might sound like whimsical,

921
00:58:03.720 --> 00:58:04.960
these types of exercises,

922
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:06.880
but I just felt very strongly

923
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:09.800
that we needed to spend this first month together

924
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:12.200
focusing on building this internal foundation

925
00:58:12.200 --> 00:58:15.400
because as we begin to architect these external things,

926
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:16.920
we're going to have a solid foundation

927
00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:18.760
for these things to rest upon,

928
00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:20.360
and we won't be crushed by them.

929
00:58:25.080 --> 00:58:25.920
Awesome.

930
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:29.760
Let me read what Amy, I cut all my grandkids' hair

931
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:31.640
and mended everyone's thing

932
00:58:31.640 --> 00:58:34.200
that needs mending in my house and get all the stains.

933
00:58:34.200 --> 00:58:36.120
I enjoy those things, but sometimes they really,

934
00:58:36.120 --> 00:58:39.120
I really have to dig and pull it off, yeah.

935
00:58:39.120 --> 00:58:41.440
It might just be, like, restructuring expectations.

936
00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:43.280
Expectations are boundaries as well.

937
00:58:44.240 --> 00:58:45.880
The expectations we hold for ourselves,

938
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:48.440
the expectations we hold with others.

939
00:58:49.120 --> 00:58:49.960
I was talking to somebody this week

940
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:51.520
and they are on a church staff,

941
00:58:51.520 --> 00:58:53.000
and they were saying, like,

942
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:56.320
they were overwhelmed by the tasks that they were having,

943
00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:58.440
and we got in this conversation about expectations,

944
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:00.560
and they realized that they were holding

945
00:59:00.560 --> 00:59:03.400
these external expectations of themselves in this role

946
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:05.960
that was actually never a part of their original role.

947
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:07.800
Like, it wasn't what they were hired to do,

948
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:10.400
but they just took on some things

949
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:12.160
that no one asked them to do,

950
00:59:12.160 --> 00:59:13.680
and then they were like, I hate my job,

951
00:59:13.680 --> 00:59:14.920
and we got down to it, and I'm like,

952
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:17.800
you're doing things that you weren't even asked to do.

953
00:59:18.160 --> 00:59:20.800
And it was like, oh, I carried the wrong expectations.

954
00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:22.160
So that's a boundary as well.

955
00:59:22.160 --> 00:59:24.360
And we clean up those things, and then,

956
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:26.680
oh, actually, this isn't so bad.

957
00:59:26.680 --> 00:59:27.600
This is really life-giving.

958
00:59:27.600 --> 00:59:29.400
This is why, this is what I've always wanted to do.

959
00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:31.000
This is my dream job, so.

960
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:35.560
Okay, any questions before we get off today's call?

961
00:59:39.200 --> 00:59:41.680
Nothing, you guys are great.

962
00:59:41.680 --> 00:59:44.560
Okay, so if you, and you can combine these two

963
00:59:44.560 --> 00:59:46.760
if you haven't done your vision homework yet,

964
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:48.040
just like some highlights of like,

965
00:59:48.040 --> 00:59:49.920
hey, this is what I've kind of discovered.

966
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:52.320
And then I would love a live for this week

967
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:53.520
about some boundaries,

968
00:59:53.520 --> 00:59:55.520
if you feel comfortable sharing some.

969
00:59:55.520 --> 00:59:56.560
You don't have to share all the ones,

970
00:59:56.560 --> 00:59:58.160
but like, share some boundaries.

971
00:59:58.160 --> 01:00:00.320
I think it would be helpful for us to hear.

972
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.560
is I think, you know, you might have something that the Lord revealed to you.

973
01:00:03.560 --> 01:00:05.640
People like, I haven't even thought about that, you know?

974
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:09.120
Um, and so I think it's helpful for us to kind of hear how this is like, how the

975
01:00:09.120 --> 01:00:13.220
Lord is like bringing this up in different areas of our lives, who am I becoming?

976
01:00:13.240 --> 01:00:15.400
And so who does that person like, what is it?

977
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:16.560
What does that person look like?

978
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:17.560
How do they live?

979
01:00:17.560 --> 01:00:18.320
What is their lifestyle?

980
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:21.080
Awesome.

981
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:23.880
Okay, guys, I will see you next Tuesday.

982
01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:29.600
Don't forget if you need to set up a tech help hotline, call tech help.

983
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:31.720
No, tech support help.

984
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:34.560
Bruce is laughing at me.

985
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:37.620
Um, you can do that in the kingdom messenger site, and that's where you

986
01:00:37.620 --> 01:00:40.000
also can schedule your one-on-ones with me.

987
01:00:40.080 --> 01:00:45.680
So I thank you Tamara for putting that in the link in the chat under getting started.

988
01:00:45.720 --> 01:00:48.360
All right, guys, we'll see you guys next Tuesday.