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Hey everyone, we're just getting set up.

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Sorry, we're running a few minutes behind,

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but we will make up for it.

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Getting organized, making sure the live stream is going,

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everything's recording.

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Awesome.

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Let some people in. I always want to kick off,

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but then I want to make sure that people are in.

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You might hear me say this a few times today,

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but we are in the middle.

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We're unofficially, I don't know if it's the exact halfway point,

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but we're in that halfway point for this advancement group.

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What I know about the middle is usually it feels very messy.

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It's feels like you might feel that tension of,

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I feel like I should have more clarity by now,

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but things feel messier than they did when I started,

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or I feel unclear, or things might have changed.

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That is normal.

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If you're feeling that tension,

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take a deep breath, that's totally okay.

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Welcome to the messy middle.

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It's part of the process.

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It is part of the process.

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Today we're going to take some time.

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What we're going to do is,

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because I know that last week we were coming back

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from the holiday break,

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so we had that week off,

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and Bruce worked with you guys on some tech stuff,

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so we know there could be some questions on this call.

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We want to leave time for there to be questions.

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It doesn't have to be about tech stuff,

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but just we want to hear where you're at,

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if you're feeling stuck, if you're feeling like,

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I need this question answered in order to move forward.

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We wanted to take the first half of this call and just give you guys

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an overview of what this looks like holistically.

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Because we have taken bits and pieces as far as,

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everyone's on a different journey as far as what they're

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wanting to advance in during this program.

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But we wanted to give you a layout.

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Many of you might have seen this before,

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but it's a good refresher,

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it's a good reminder because again,

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the messy middle, sometimes we need refreshers,

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we need repetition, we need reminders.

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We want to show you, this is what the map looks like holistically

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of what it is that we're building,

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and you can find your way of like this.

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That's helpful. Now, this is where I'm planting

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myself in this season to advance and it's part of this larger picture.

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We have found this helpful,

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we do this all the time because as new ideas form,

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as we are trying to decide what is the right next step,

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as we're trying to decide where to spend our time and energy,

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it's always going to take a step back,

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reorient ourselves with the bigger picture,

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and then we can go back into more precision mode on where it is that we're going to be

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planting ourself, our energy, our time, and all of that stuff.

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Bruce is going to pull up a few slides because there are

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visuals because I find that personally helpful to see some visuals.

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This was the blueprint that we shared.

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I don't know if everyone was a part of this,

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but when we had our tribe workshop, when was that, April?

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April, yeah. I don't know if some of you guys were on that.

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We shared this blueprint and it was just helpful to see, okay,

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holistically, as I'm building towards discipling my who,

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there's ways that we can do that and we've talked about that.

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There's layers to all of this as far as everything from introductory,

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reaching people, impacting people with

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encouragement to actually bringing people into a deeper level with us,

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where there's mentorship happening,

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even some more one-on-one stuff,

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and so that looks like something.

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That doesn't have to be messy.

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It can feel messy, but it's helpful to have that picture.

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It's broken down, so I'll have you bring that up and speak to that.

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Again, this might be a refresher for some of you.

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Maybe you've never seen this before.

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No need to panic.

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I think that you will intuitively,

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as we're discussing this and pointing it out,

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know where you are and where it is that you're currently spending your time,

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and I think that's going to help bring clarity

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for the journey ahead in the second half.

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That's good. Yeah, this is a system that every time we've helped people,

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we've consulted or done stuff with other Kingdom messengers,

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or this is our system that we've had in the back of our mind,

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but then in April when we shared it,

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we actually had what we call is like your tech blueprint.

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It's helping you figure out just what does this all look like?

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I'm building TikToks over here,

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and now we're talking about a landing page,

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and I've got my website,

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and I want to do a course or whatever the thing is.

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Or do I need a website?

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Do you need a website?

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Yeah, those are the questions, right?

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This is a nice little simple blueprint we use,

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and then this will just show you where this landing page we've been talking about is going,

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and then how does it plug into everything else you're doing with your social channels.

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Let me share some of these slides just because it'll help us take there.

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And we like to think of it in like three sections, like your traffic, your

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conversion, and then your tribe or your actual community that you own.

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Um, and so, uh, basically this is how we think about it is we like to take

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people from traffic, kind of moving them from the left side of the

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page all the way to the right.

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And so, um, we've got traffic conversions, tribe.

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And so for each of these, you're going to have a free source, uh, for this.

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So you may have like social media things that you're doing right now that you may

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actually have paid sources where you're like actually running ads

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and things like that, um, into it.

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Um, and then conversion is in the middle.

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It's like taking people who are now are watching YouTube and now we're wanting

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them to give you their email address or, uh, buy something or whatever that thing

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is anytime conversion is just essentially they were in one state before they saw

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this thing and about the end of the page, they have become a member.

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They have bought a product.

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They have given you their email address.

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It's like, they make that step.

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It's a conversion.

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they have, they have, they have moved from being a consumer to actually being a

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customer and currency isn't always income.

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They're not easily, they don't easily part with those things.

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So there's an exchange as far as they are giving something to you beyond just their

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time, watching your reels or watching your episodes, but they have given you

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something so that there can be a dialogue now, kind of a back and forth.

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So we'll, well, what we're going to do is just go through like each of these

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pillars in a little more detail.

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Um, and so on the traffic side, um, you know, it's, it's what you were doing

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before, before we talk about landing pages, it's TikTok, it's Instagram, it's

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you have long form, like you can maybe do YouTube or you're uploading a video.

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time to grow these followings, but once you have it, it's free traffic.

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So if you've got 10,000 people in your kingdom channel, you can now direct

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them to that landing page, to that thing.

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do that necessarily when you have maybe like 20 people following you.

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into this like channel that you're going to get, but basically reap a reward

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on later when you want to help move those people to that.

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So that's why we always start people on the traffic because it takes the

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longest, um, but it's the most valuable.

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um, easiest thing to start X, not, I shouldn't say easy.

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That's the wrong word.

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It's the quickest thing to start executing on.

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So like start, start posting your reel, start putting it, posting your episodes.

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You guys have been with us on that journey.

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It's quicker to begin, um, reaching your who today, doing those things, then

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taking time to build a landing page and then figure out how to advertise that

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landing page and pay for the right people and target there is value in that process,

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but it's not quick and it's, and it, it's more helpful when you have the volume

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from those free traffic sources to then convert people and hopefully you guys

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are seeing that process as it unfolds.

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landing pages because I would have had this beautiful landing page, but

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no one really to direct it.

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And, um, so, and then we're just giving it again, like kind of high level

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overview, so the free traffic sources, kind of what you guys have been doing.

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You don't have to be doing everything that we're talking about today.

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Um, there may just be pieces to it.

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And this is something you build over time and there's, there's kind of layers to it.

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Um, so if you don't have a source, like when we launched kingdom messengers, we

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didn't have a kingdom messenger, YouTube channel, we had Lindsay's posture

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channel, but we didn't have a kingdom messenger, YouTube channel.

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message out into people, into people's feed.

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It basically lets you like, you could pay Facebook five, 10, $20 a day, and it

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will force your content into people's feed who don't follow you.

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Um, so just, it kind of, it, it kind of gives you, you can kind of rent the

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traffic essentially for a little, like a better word and so, and it

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can at times accelerate, right.

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So, um, it took me, you know, long, long time.

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of time to launch the kingdom messenger channel, because we put advertising

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dollars behind it, and if you're asking yourself, should I be doing ads?

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time-wise, energy-wise. It's a little more technical. It's a little more technical.

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So like, it doesn't mean you should, it can help accelerate the journey, but you don't have to do

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that. Many of you guys on this call, most of you guys on this call have been investing in the free

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traffic. And so that is, you guys have the volume and that's why we're moving into this conversion

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piece. So TikTok ads, Instagram ads, and we made touch on this a little bit before the end of

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January with you guys. And we'll, if you guys are interested in learning more about this,

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but we do want you to leverage kind of your current traffic that you have first. So

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what this looks like kind of in that column, just to give you a visuals, like that free sources,

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think of like TikTok, YouTube shorts, reels, you know, anything that you're posting on social

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media. And then underneath it, you've got paid sources like Facebook ads, Instagram ads, and

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TikTok ads. Okay. So that's the traffic component. And we'll talk a little bit about conversion.

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And so conversion is that middle piece. We can have things as simple as like an email or text opt-in.

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So, you know, people like we talked about last week, you guys, some of you guys are doing a PDF

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resource. Sometimes you're doing like, Hey, get like this longer form training. I'm going to do

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a 45 minute, you know, teach training on this particular topic. So formally known as webinar.

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Yeah. Yeah. We don't like the word webinar, but you know what? Cause I think that's

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a dated, but it's that kind of ideas. Like you put your email in and you watch

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some sort of training. And then I said as well, like anything that stops value for the price of

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an email, right? So that could be just getting on the newsletter. It could be getting access to

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something. And it can also be something as simple as a, as a Facebook group, right? It's free. You

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just, Hey, I'm getting you into this Facebook group. Now we can kind of start a two-way conversation

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versus like me broadcasting videos out and you may be commenting as someone in my community.

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Now we're like in somewhere where we can have like a dialogue or something like that,

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like a deeper interaction. So that's free conversion. And then there's like low ticket.

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We talked about, so Stripe, you could, I mean, with you could maybe doing like a mini course for

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$7 masterclass trainings, templates, guides. And then what we do for kingdom messengers is we do

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a challenge, right? So we, people come in, they pay $37. I think all of you guys did that, did

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this, got the ad because you don't know who we are. Like it's something where, you know, we can

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be, we can give away free resources all day and no one would ever really maybe like take any movement

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into actually launching their channel. But when we said, Hey, let's launch in a weekend or let's,

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you know, do this five-day challenge. And we ask people to pay. The payment is really, you know,

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for your benefit. It's, we never, like it helps cover the ad cost to get the ad to you. But no

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one's making money off like a $37 product. It's really just there for the people to take it

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seriously. And that's why, like as Christians, we do want to give everything away for free. And this

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is probably a whole topic on like, you're going off on a whole, but we can talk about it. I think

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it's helpful. I think that when it comes to, okay, there's a difference between motivation and

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movement. Yeah. So a lot of people after hearing a teaching or consuming a free resource may be

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motivated, but it doesn't necessarily equate movement in their lives. Yeah. And so, I mean,

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think about this in your own journey. Have there been times when you left like a Sunday service or

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even a conference that you've been at and you're like, wow, that was so, it feels so life-changing

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to me. But a week later, you've done nothing with that information that you consumed, that you

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thought like this is life-changing. It's because you're experiencing motivation. You're experiencing

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inspiration in the moment, but it didn't transfer to, it didn't translate to transformation. And so

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we have just found in our own journey of leading people, coaching people, being coached and led by

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other people that when there is exchange, meaning not free, but when there's some kind of

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financialism, I think is what can move a lot of people because it's a meaningful

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money, like for most people, it's not necessarily like people are idolizing money. It just represents

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their time and energy, right? Because they have done something to earn that money. So it's

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valuable to them to part with $47 and not spend it on X, Y, and Z. And when they invest in themselves

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at varying levels, I think the transformation can be varying levels, but when they invest in

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themselves with dollars, for whatever reason, we have found that has brought the most

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seriousness to what we're bringing.

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Like people show up differently

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because it's like, I have invested in myself,

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I need to make it count versus,

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we've given things away to people

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and like we've scholarshiped people

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and there hasn't been the same amount of showing up

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as people who have personally invested in themselves.

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because it's a motivator that can lead to movement.

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you don't move, but how we like steward

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from free stuff to paid stuff,

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This is where the world kind of goes wonky

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because it turns into really manipulative sales tactics.

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Right, like we've all kind of been,

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look, it's election, we have a runoff in Georgia.

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I have gotten no less than 20 texts today

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about going to go vote, right?

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the messages are manipulative and fear-mongering

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and all that stuff, right?

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Like, because they wanna continue to show up

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in my day today to remind me to go vote

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and all they know is to motivate me with fear tactics,

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right, because it's worldly, right?

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As kingdom people, we don't have to utilize that at all.

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We don't have to manipulate,

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but we can consistently show up with people.

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I think the best way to do this,

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because people always ask,

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well, how should I do this?

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Is be yourself, be authentically yourself.

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Marian is going to show up

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and speak to people differently than I am.

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Why is that?

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and Marian has a different who than me.

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And the Holy Spirit is informing Marian specifically

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and uniquely to reach her specific who

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with her specific message differently

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than he is informing me.

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Because Holy Spirit knows better than Marian or I

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what is going to connect best with my who

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and help lead them to a place from motivation

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to movement and transformation.

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Because Holy Spirit is way more invested

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in those people's journey than I or Marian can ever be.

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We're partnering with the agenda of heaven.

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And so what is our responsibility?

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It's not to throw up our hands and say,

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well, I don't want to manipulate people.

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So I'm just not going to even participate in any of this.

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And that is an ongoing conversation.

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That is not a one and done.

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So free resources are great.

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Think of them as a way to capture people's attention

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and motivate people to deeper movement.

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So I like, again, I think there are many ways to do this.

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I don't think there's a formula.

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I think it's something like, I love Cindy's,

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like what she was doing,

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because she has new believers.

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It's like a letter from God.

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Like that's beautiful, right?

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Like that's a motivator that could lead

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to deeper movement with people.

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Because first of all, it's extremely unique

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that someone would take time to share a letter from God.

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Even if you're not a new believer,

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I think that's extremely unique.

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And it's leading people to a connection point

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that is specific to where they are in their journey.

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So think of in those terms,

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and guys, you might have to try a few different things

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and that's okay.

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It's okay to be exploratory.

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You might not hit it out of the park every single time.

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And that's okay.

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But know that for the most part, there are exceptions.

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When you're wanting, like this is for people

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who are wanting to do things that are more paid

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or more like mentorship-based, you know,

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accessibility to you, accessibility to your teachings,

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you're gonna probably need to think about touch points

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that lead people to that deeper dive.

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Like it's hard for people to go from just hearing you on,

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it doesn't mean it doesn't happen,

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from hearing you on Instagram to paying,

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you know, a thousand dollar coaching program

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or a $200 course, right?

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There's gonna have to be something in between

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that gives them a bit of a taste and see

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of what it's like to work in that,

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work with you or have more of your content

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from a mentorship perspective.

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So think in those terms as well.

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So I think you're getting to is like,

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that's why the money is important.

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Number one, I mean, not number one,

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I don't know what order this falls.

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It's important if we're wanting to build

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substantial ministries that for,

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this might not be important to you.

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For Bruce and I, we did not want to build a ministry

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on the backs of donors.

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We don't think there's anything wrong with that.

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We are donors of ministries.

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we believe in, it's perfectly fine that that, because I think

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donorship gives people a way to participate in large ministries

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and large impact that they wouldn't be able to do.

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Like, I'm so grateful that there's people that are half

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across the world for me that in countries I'll never visit that

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I can participate in by building their ministry with dollars.

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That's awesome.

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So I'm not downing that.

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We do, it's just for us, it's not how we wanted to build what

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it was that God gave it to us to do.

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It just, and you're saying, well, why not?

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Is it something God told you not to do?

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No, it just, it wasn't a desire of our hearts to build

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something off donations.

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And so we are building it this way.

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It looks like a business.

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People are paying us for services.

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People are being ministered to, people are being impacted,

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people are growing.

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we've done it both ways.

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We have found there's been a lot more movement in the

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ministry that we're doing when people have paid us because

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they have showed up differently.

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It's good.

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So I told you you're going off on a big, there's, we could

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talk about this all day.

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But I think for us, what I'm trying to share with you guys,

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and we've tried to learn this as well, like there's tactical

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things we can talk about, but a lot of this stuff comes down

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to mindset shifts.

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And five years ago, I would say if, if we heard what Lindsay

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just said, we were been like, this is, we would have been

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offended.

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We would have been offended at what she just said.

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So we've come a long way in how we're thinking about what

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ministry could look like as far as like, it can be business

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and ministry and your calling of what Lord's actually called

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you.

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Cause like, just let's just pretend for a second that the

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thing the Lord's called you to, like, he's also going to give

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the resources to, and he's going to create like the mechanism

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to make it substantial.

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Right.

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So to us, like, that's, that's kind of what it could look

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like.

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We've seen a lot of different models of it.

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And, and this is, there is a kingdom model that we really

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like about this.

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It's not just a Christian content strategy, right?

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It's it's like, there's a kingdom aspect to this as well.

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And it comes down to, it's built, I think, on the foundation

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of sowing and reaping.

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When people sow into themselves, something is reaped, right?

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And we only know this because this was our story.

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Like I'm not picking on anyone else there.

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We received a lot of free stuff over the years.

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Admittedly, we didn't do a lot with it.

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Part of it was, I think that we just took it for granted.

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I don't think it was, I don't think it was, um, it was

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valuable stuff.

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Let's put it that way.

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It was valuable stuff, but we just, it kind of just went over

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our heads because it was like, well, this is just free and

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it's all, it'll always be there.

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And, you know, this is, this is how church is.

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You just, you know, if you need something, you know, you need

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to talk to someone, you need to get free counseling and you get

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mentorship, like it's just going to be there if you need it.

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So we didn't really, we didn't really take advantage of it.

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We just kind of took it for granted.

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We didn't really do anything with it.

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God moved us into a season where we began to pay mentors,

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spiritual mentors to pour into us and something shifted.

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And I don't think it was because necessarily money changed hands

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or who it changed hands with.

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I think it was because there was a mindset and a heart

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change within ourselves that we are good soil and

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we're worth investing in.

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And that opened us up to receiving from the people that

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were pouring into us different than before.

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So it was our own story.

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I'm not picking on anyone.

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I'm not saying that free stuff doesn't translate to value, but

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we have just found in our own story and the people that we lead

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in, there has been a difference.

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And so that's why we run things the way that we do and happy to

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talk to anyone and answer questions as you guys are thinking about

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what you're wanting to build and how you want to build it, what

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that could look like for you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I don't know exactly how we got off on that, but we'll get back

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onto the versions we talked about low ticket resources and sometimes

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like, um, it's just a, there is a shift there that we would encourage

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you guys to explore at some point.

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Not doesn't have to be in the space of this advancement.

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We want to just get you some of these mechanisms set up so you

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can start grabbing email addresses, start pulling people a little

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closer in towards you and kind of take them from being out there

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on social media somewhere and bring them onto an email list or

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into a Facebook group or something where you can now have a little

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bit more interaction with them.

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Um, so that's, that's all we're, we're kind of shooting for.

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So, um, let's jump into this last one cause it's pretty quick.

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And then we'll, we'll jump into some, some questions.

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So community or your tribe.

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Um, if you guys have a tribe site, this is what tribe social does.

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It's like basically having that, um, you could use Facebook groups.

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Um, there's other tools out there, even just zoom calls.

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It's just a way to like gather people.

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Right.

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And so this could look like, um, you know, various tools connected and then

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actually having some sort of community hub.

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00:24:57.340 --> 00:25:00.020
So you guys, I think everybody on the call has.

481
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.360
access to a version of tribe.

482
00:25:02.360 --> 00:25:04.960
And if not, we'll get you set up on something.

483
00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:07.120
But that is where, you know,

484
00:25:07.120 --> 00:25:09.240
what's what we're doing for Kingdom Messenger TV.

485
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:12.160
Like that's where we have all our people are in there.

486
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:14.080
When we do a challenge, when we do free training,

487
00:25:14.080 --> 00:25:17.760
whatever, it all goes into that resource vault.

488
00:25:17.760 --> 00:25:19.040
Can I say one thing?

489
00:25:19.040 --> 00:25:22.320
Cause we do use community and tribe interchangeably,

490
00:25:22.320 --> 00:25:24.840
but I think that it's important to note the difference

491
00:25:24.840 --> 00:25:27.120
because this is how we define the difference

492
00:25:27.120 --> 00:25:28.720
in our heads and hearts is

493
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:31.360
community is a broader term for us.

494
00:25:31.360 --> 00:25:32.440
So when we think about community,

495
00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:35.880
we do think about the people that are connected to us

496
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:38.400
in free things like our YouTube channel

497
00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:39.880
or social media accounts.

498
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:41.360
And in our larger community,

499
00:25:41.360 --> 00:25:42.400
you guys are part of that as well.

500
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:46.880
Like those are people who have paid us $37 and no more,

501
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:48.960
but they're a part of our like free trainings.

502
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.280
And we pop into their lives every couple,

503
00:25:51.280 --> 00:25:52.520
a couple of times each year

504
00:25:52.520 --> 00:25:54.400
and provide some training and resources

505
00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:56.920
and some access through Zoom calls, things like that.

506
00:25:56.920 --> 00:25:58.080
That's our community.

507
00:25:58.120 --> 00:26:00.080
You guys are our tribe.

508
00:26:00.080 --> 00:26:01.600
Our members are our tribe.

509
00:26:01.600 --> 00:26:03.720
Why is it important to note that difference?

510
00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:06.800
Because it's important for us to know

511
00:26:06.800 --> 00:26:10.560
how much we pour into different groups of people.

512
00:26:11.600 --> 00:26:13.440
Part of it is permission.

513
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.600
You guys have given us a certain amount of permission

514
00:26:17.600 --> 00:26:20.120
to speak into your lives, to pour into your lives,

515
00:26:20.120 --> 00:26:21.840
to speak truth into your lives

516
00:26:21.840 --> 00:26:24.160
that people in our community for $37

517
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:26.480
or people who are just like watching our stuff for free,

518
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:29.120
they've not given us that permission.

519
00:26:29.120 --> 00:26:31.480
So it would be awkward if we like showed up

520
00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:34.600
and had like calls about finances and donors

521
00:26:34.600 --> 00:26:35.480
and how to sit, right?

522
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:37.840
Because people would be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

523
00:26:37.840 --> 00:26:39.600
Like, who do you think you are, right?

524
00:26:39.600 --> 00:26:41.880
Like the $37 people have just paid us

525
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:43.520
to help them launch their channels, right?

526
00:26:43.520 --> 00:26:44.400
Get on social media.

527
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:48.280
Like they've agreed to a certain level of input from us,

528
00:26:48.280 --> 00:26:50.400
but not this like, not the deeper dives, you know,

529
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:52.800
us sharing parts of our lives that are,

530
00:26:52.800 --> 00:26:54.680
it would just be weird, right?

531
00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:57.800
And also it would be draining for us

532
00:26:57.800 --> 00:27:00.240
to be serving thousands of people

533
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.240
at that intimate of a level.

534
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:05.120
This is where a lot of burnout can take place.

535
00:27:05.120 --> 00:27:07.240
I'm seeing it a lot with like influencers,

536
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:09.200
both Christian and secular influencers,

537
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:10.800
like accounts just shutting down.

538
00:27:10.800 --> 00:27:12.160
We've talked about this before

539
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:16.280
because they open themselves up to thousands,

540
00:27:16.280 --> 00:27:19.600
hundreds of thousands, millions of people

541
00:27:19.600 --> 00:27:23.880
that are only like there for some free touch points, right?

542
00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:27.320
Or from some low ticket stuff and they burn out

543
00:27:27.320 --> 00:27:29.960
because they're giving like level 10 stuff

544
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:31.920
to people who are only at level one.

545
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:36.480
And so think about this too,

546
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:39.440
how you receive feedback from certain people.

547
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:43.240
If any of you had feedback that you wanted to give us,

548
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:46.400
we would take that into a way deeper consideration

549
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:51.080
than some, you know, ordinary Joe comment

550
00:27:51.080 --> 00:27:53.080
on my Instagram account, right?

551
00:27:53.080 --> 00:27:55.960
Doesn't mean that it's not valuable or not helpful,

552
00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:58.600
but we weigh it differently

553
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:01.760
because you guys have access to us.

554
00:28:01.760 --> 00:28:03.480
You have longevity with us.

555
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:04.640
There's relationship.

556
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:06.080
There's been relational bridge form.

557
00:28:06.080 --> 00:28:09.120
So when Marian says something or Xavier said something,

558
00:28:09.120 --> 00:28:11.240
we take that into way deeper consideration

559
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:13.760
and there's access for dialogue and back and forth

560
00:28:13.760 --> 00:28:15.360
and clarifying questions, right?

561
00:28:15.360 --> 00:28:16.960
Because there is a relational bridge

562
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:20.200
than the people on Instagram.

563
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:21.280
So that's why it's important.

564
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.240
When you're thinking about your traffic sources

565
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:27.800
or the community level,

566
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:31.200
there's a certain level that you can open up with people

567
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:32.760
or that you should open up with people

568
00:28:32.760 --> 00:28:35.360
than people who are going to be in your tribe.

569
00:28:36.560 --> 00:28:39.720
People that you're gonna be pouring into maybe one-on-one

570
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:41.320
or a small group context,

571
00:28:41.320 --> 00:28:46.000
like it's a different type of input and output, right?

572
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:48.680
So we make it, you know,

573
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:50.040
because there's also seasons

574
00:28:50.040 --> 00:28:52.720
where you're only gonna have time to do,

575
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:57.720
like I've put a hold on posture over the fall and winter

576
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.640
because I knew that my time was limited.

577
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:04.640
And if something was gonna go,

578
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:06.800
it wasn't going to be the members

579
00:29:06.800 --> 00:29:08.480
or the advancement group, right?

580
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:09.920
Yeah.

581
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:11.960
Because you guys are our tribe,

582
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:13.440
the people on posture,

583
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.400
though important to me and dear to me

584
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.320
and I wanna be back there soon,

585
00:29:17.320 --> 00:29:18.960
they are my community.

586
00:29:20.360 --> 00:29:22.000
Yeah.

587
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.560
And I mean, in some ways it is just a traffic source.

588
00:29:25.560 --> 00:29:27.320
Like it is a community,

589
00:29:27.320 --> 00:29:29.320
but they've not made that conversion step

590
00:29:29.320 --> 00:29:33.120
in towards following you and all that.

591
00:29:33.120 --> 00:29:34.240
So cool.

592
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:35.640
And that's pretty much all we wanted.

593
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.440
Those were all the slides we wanted to cover.

594
00:29:39.360 --> 00:29:40.520
And that's just something to think about,

595
00:29:40.520 --> 00:29:42.080
like as you guys are building out these things

596
00:29:42.080 --> 00:29:44.480
where you add, let's say you're thinking like,

597
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:46.920
oh, should I be on another platform,

598
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:49.240
Pinterest or Twitter or some of these platforms

599
00:29:49.280 --> 00:29:51.360
that we don't really talk about.

600
00:29:51.360 --> 00:29:53.040
You can just see where that plugs in now.

601
00:29:53.040 --> 00:29:55.080
Okay, that's a traffic source.

602
00:29:55.080 --> 00:29:57.440
I can get traffic from that and it can come in.

603
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.760
Or just, you know, people who are a pastor of a church or they're speaking

604
00:30:02.760 --> 00:30:04.000
somewhere, maybe there's a link.

605
00:30:04.500 --> 00:30:08.140
On that website that is sending them to your website or something.

606
00:30:08.140 --> 00:30:09.400
That's another traffic source.

607
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:11.540
Like there's all these other places you can kind of get.

608
00:30:11.540 --> 00:30:11.920
That's true.

609
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.360
We didn't really talk about like the cross promotional stuff.

610
00:30:14.360 --> 00:30:17.560
So you guys might be doing speaking gigs or you guys might be a part of

611
00:30:17.560 --> 00:30:21.080
organizations that, that could be reaching, you know, your potential

612
00:30:21.080 --> 00:30:22.080
who, and could be leading you.

613
00:30:22.080 --> 00:30:24.640
That's another thing is it could be leading people to your sources.

614
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:29.680
But so, you know, you're a lot like you get to a place where we're at,

615
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:34.560
we're kind of building those things simultaneously, but there is a, an

616
00:30:34.560 --> 00:30:37.820
ebb and flow to how much percentage of our time and energy we're putting

617
00:30:37.820 --> 00:30:39.160
into each of those things.

618
00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:44.120
So like when we go back into challenge mode at the end of January, early

619
00:30:44.120 --> 00:30:47.800
February, like we will amp up our attention and our time and our energy

620
00:30:47.800 --> 00:30:49.200
towards that conversion piece.

621
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:49.600
Right.

622
00:30:50.080 --> 00:30:52.200
And some of it might even be that traffic piece.

623
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.100
Like we might be doing some paid traffic because we want people to

624
00:30:55.100 --> 00:30:58.800
convert quickly in order to then, you know, invite them into making a

625
00:30:58.800 --> 00:31:01.880
decision if they want to be a part of our tribe, whether it's an intensive.

626
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:06.520
So, but we don't have to be giving a hundred percent to all three

627
00:31:06.520 --> 00:31:08.640
of those blocks all the time.

628
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:08.880
Yeah.

629
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:12.160
There's, I was going to say, it's very seasonal and we've, we kind of go

630
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:16.800
into like challenge mode, we call it where we're, we're doing an event.

631
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:18.240
There's a couple of weeks leading up to it.

632
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.760
We do the event and then we go just back into meeting with our tribe.

633
00:31:21.760 --> 00:31:22.640
We have a reply after that.

634
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:27.400
So we don't like, we don't post on anything, kingdom messengers, any of

635
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:29.000
that, all the ads get turned off.

636
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:32.000
Like we pretty much pretend like that whole traffic piece doesn't exist.

637
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.160
And we just go into like fulfillment to the community.

638
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:34.600
Yeah.

639
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:35.280
So, yeah.

640
00:31:35.320 --> 00:31:36.240
So, okay.

641
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:37.760
Let's like unmute ourselves.

642
00:31:37.760 --> 00:31:40.800
If anyone has any questions or things they're wanting to process,

643
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:43.560
um, you can raise your hand.

644
00:31:44.520 --> 00:31:47.800
And I saw, yeah, we'll do a couple, let's do some questions.

645
00:31:47.800 --> 00:31:49.040
Xavier, did you raise your hands?

646
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:51.560
Oh, Marianne.

647
00:31:51.560 --> 00:31:54.600
Yeah, I had to, um, I'm like, wow.

648
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:55.280
Okay.

649
00:31:55.520 --> 00:31:58.080
Cause the, the, the whole issue, just to confirm what you were saying

650
00:31:58.080 --> 00:32:02.880
about business versus nonprofit, this is a discussion I can't have with just

651
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:06.720
anybody, um, a few years ago, yeah.

652
00:32:06.760 --> 00:32:11.160
You know, a few, a few years ago I had, um, as I was setting up the ministry,

653
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:12.680
the Lord had impressed something on me.

654
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:17.640
I was lined up to go, you know, with the five Oh one C three and do everything.

655
00:32:17.840 --> 00:32:20.120
And the Lord very clearly and distinctly said, stop.

656
00:32:21.520 --> 00:32:21.800
Okay.

657
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:26.080
And, um, as we, as he and I talked about it, it really became.

658
00:32:26.560 --> 00:32:28.120
Why should it be a nonprofit?

659
00:32:28.120 --> 00:32:30.680
Because I want you to be able to sow into other ministries and

660
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:31.960
so into other things as well.

661
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:32.880
Okay.

662
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:35.080
And I'm a Lord of a God of abundance.

663
00:32:35.080 --> 00:32:37.560
Now I've always held this, that this is for me.

664
00:32:37.560 --> 00:32:39.080
This is not for everybody else.

665
00:32:39.080 --> 00:32:43.240
This is just what he was telling me, but as I've just mentioned it to other

666
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:47.280
people that didn't always go over as well as, as one might hope.

667
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:50.520
So I just want to thank you for actually bringing that out.

668
00:32:50.520 --> 00:32:52.000
Cause it's very important to me.

669
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.040
And it actually has to deal with some of the things that I'm, I am

670
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:58.320
dealing with right this really this week.

671
00:33:00.320 --> 00:33:00.640
Yeah.

672
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.880
So really just in terms of, of, you know, understanding that people have

673
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:08.680
to sow back into themselves also, uh, you know, cause there are questions

674
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.200
about, well, if this is a ministry, why isn't this free, which is

675
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:13.240
the most common question, right?

676
00:33:14.120 --> 00:33:16.960
But that, but that is, it's, it's very, very true.

677
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:22.040
But to find someone else who has felt this, that their ministry

678
00:33:22.040 --> 00:33:24.520
is not to be a nonprofit.

679
00:33:24.560 --> 00:33:28.360
You know, I've come to believe that, that, well, I don't want to say that

680
00:33:28.360 --> 00:33:29.560
there's anything wrong with that.

681
00:33:29.560 --> 00:33:31.520
If that's the way that they operate, that that's fine.

682
00:33:31.520 --> 00:33:32.960
But I also think that that's a trap.

683
00:33:35.040 --> 00:33:35.960
You know, right.

684
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:41.960
It can be a trap and it can be a, you know, a way, you know, for to, to not

685
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.120
go as far as God would want to take you.

686
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.880
So just in my particular case, this is just what I'm doing.

687
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:52.120
I'm just thrilled to hear that there is someone else who actually feels this

688
00:33:52.120 --> 00:33:56.640
way, or it had a similar experience because I haven't come across anybody

689
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:58.040
else who's, who's like that yet.

690
00:33:58.640 --> 00:33:59.000
Yeah.

691
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.280
Well, I mean, and this is a, it's a heart issue, right?

692
00:34:01.280 --> 00:34:04.800
So it's something that we are like, we've, we've even tweaked things.

693
00:34:04.800 --> 00:34:08.199
So when we started with kingdom messengers, we didn't have our social

694
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:12.320
channels up, like we just like went into, I mean, then posture, but we, we didn't

695
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:13.960
have a kingdom messenger social channel.

696
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:18.400
And the feedback that we got in the beginning was people saying like, I can't

697
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:21.639
afford $37, which is a very, that's realistic.

698
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.239
I know that not everyone can afford 47 or 37.

699
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.360
So what we started doing kind of after our first or second challenge is we opened up

700
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:32.480
our social channels and began sharing free resources, like began sharing clips

701
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:34.120
of our, so that we could lead people.

702
00:34:34.120 --> 00:34:37.360
If they were not in a place that they could afford the $37, what we didn't do

703
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:42.560
was we didn't compromise community piece that we were building because we

704
00:34:42.560 --> 00:34:47.159
specifically wanted that community to be full of people who had paid something.

705
00:34:47.560 --> 00:34:49.440
Number one, it protects from spam.

706
00:34:51.520 --> 00:34:53.320
People want to get in there.

707
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:54.199
They want to spam people.

708
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:55.360
They want to promote their own thing.

709
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:56.520
It really protects people.

710
00:34:56.520 --> 00:34:59.640
So we wanted to protect the people coming in and it gives.

711
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:06.400
Edible focus. Yeah, because people were there to do a specific thing and that was launched their kingdom channels

712
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:10.440
So it really it helped kind of filter out

713
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:15.520
People that needed that were there because they needed you know attention or they needed you know

714
00:35:15.520 --> 00:35:20.960
Whatever it just like everyone's here to learn right like and so that's why we did what we did

715
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.960
So we didn't say okay. We're just gonna open it up for free

716
00:35:23.520 --> 00:35:28.680
We just opened up a channel when we felt like we could like we had the energy and the focus to do it

717
00:35:28.680 --> 00:35:34.480
And we started to just share some free resources, and then we did some things like the first night of our challenge

718
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:40.200
We usually share the first session for free for free on our YouTube channel stream that live so we do what we can

719
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.240
so we took the feedback seriously and when we were able to

720
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:48.120
Not at the expense of our community that we were building not at the expense of our own time energy

721
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:50.540
And it doesn't help anyone if we're burnt out

722
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.440
When we were able to we were able to open up kind of a free channel

723
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.640
Which you already do Xavier because you've got your tick tocks and everything built

724
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:00.120
So like you can easily if someone's like I can't afford this great

725
00:36:00.120 --> 00:36:04.580
I have some free resources on my social media channel, and I up that I update that

726
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:10.200
Daily or consistent weekly consistently and there you can go for some free encouragement and training

727
00:36:10.200 --> 00:36:16.040
Yeah, that's exactly for the webinar that I'm preparing for the free webinar because I'm trying to move them into coaching from there

728
00:36:16.040 --> 00:36:21.880
I answer the question. Why isn't that free and I said look if you need the resources find the social media

729
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:22.760
It's all there

730
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:28.840
this is for those who need more attention who need this or or that and and so I don't you know that that's as

731
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:33.480
Far as or at least as close as I get to an apology anymore, but it used to weigh really heavily

732
00:36:33.860 --> 00:36:37.580
Yeah, for some reason if anyone's like doing like

733
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:44.180
Nobody minds paying for cooking classes, right, right. Nobody minds paying for a gym membership

734
00:36:45.080 --> 00:36:50.720
Yeah, but for whatever reason when it's a Christian doing some teaching that will have you know

735
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:53.440
Internal impact

736
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.920
It needs to be for free so, you know, yeah, it's fine

737
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:01.720
I mean again, we could we could make fun of it all day long. I think the reality is is that

738
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:05.040
In order we have found in order to help people

739
00:37:05.560 --> 00:37:09.880
Change their hearts and minds about something we just do it and offer it

740
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:14.080
I don't we don't feel like it's something we have to debate that we have to like make a

741
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:18.960
You know formal statement on that. We always have to necessarily answer

742
00:37:19.200 --> 00:37:24.240
We feel in our own head, you know and we have people pouring into us that you know

743
00:37:24.240 --> 00:37:27.000
Know us well that can be speaking in to us at any point saying hey

744
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:28.320
I think you guys are going a little off-track

745
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:31.920
But we feel pure at heart as far as what we're doing and how we're offering it

746
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:37.040
Yeah, and the end of the levels that we're doing it at and so that's what's important is, you know

747
00:37:37.040 --> 00:37:37.880
Do you at the end of the day?

748
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:43.360
Do you feel free and pure at heart and what your it is that you're offering what you're offering is valuable

749
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:50.240
that is something that they'll sometimes be tension because sometimes we can be tempted to think what we're what we're offering is not valuable and

750
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.400
So we struggle to charge for it

751
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:56.040
That's something that you know some internal territory that we have to take to the Lord

752
00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:59.800
and something that we definitely walked in personally as well, but

753
00:38:01.040 --> 00:38:03.760
We have no regrets. Yeah. Yeah, and

754
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:09.240
That's good. I know I think Walter and Marion had something. Hey Marion

755
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:11.400
I saw Marion first and then Walt can get on

756
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:17.080
Yeah, I just wanted to say thank you for what you were sharing about putting things on hold

757
00:38:17.720 --> 00:38:24.840
Because the weighty thing that's been weighing me down is what happens if I runs cut some kind of course

758
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:30.760
And I just want a few people and and can I do that and still do all that other stuff?

759
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:34.320
Because making a video every day takes time

760
00:38:35.080 --> 00:38:39.400
So you just spoke to something that set me free really

761
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:46.480
Yes, you can put it on hold and back people will still be there. Yeah. Yeah

762
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:52.640
Assuming you could even fill in with a few old sessions. Yes. It's a great idea

763
00:38:53.520 --> 00:39:00.560
Yeah, so that that was really good. Thank you. I'm glad that was helpful. Yeah, and I'll I'll just say as well

764
00:39:01.560 --> 00:39:03.560
Someone said like they'll always be

765
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:08.880
Ministry to do right? I think we talked about this this week because there's like oh there's this feeling of like

766
00:39:09.720 --> 00:39:17.560
We've been given this gift of communication or this revelation of something like it's we should be sharing it like oh my gosh

767
00:39:17.560 --> 00:39:21.160
We're like getting behind like if we're being good stewards of our gifts

768
00:39:21.160 --> 00:39:24.440
Like we should be like out there making content every single day

769
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:31.120
And that'll always be there like there will be an infinite amount of like need and people out there that will need ministry

770
00:39:31.120 --> 00:39:35.440
But you got to kind of know like what season you're in. Yeah, and where the focus is

771
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:37.560
So like ministry looks very different to us

772
00:39:38.080 --> 00:39:44.560
Like the last few months because we have you know, an 18 month old and so she's getting all of our ministry

773
00:39:44.560 --> 00:39:47.000
Right first getting like our first fruits of our ministry

774
00:39:47.520 --> 00:39:53.760
and so that's been our focus and then you know, we've got you guys and people who are like

775
00:39:53.760 --> 00:40:00.120
you know part of advancements and and then we've got a very few like so we can't do all the things like right because

776
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.240
You can't just keep accumulating.

777
00:40:01.240 --> 00:40:03.840
Sometimes you can only, you gotta take things out

778
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:06.000
as well as put things in.

779
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.920
And so that's just something to set yourself free

780
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:10.640
that there's gonna be seasons.

781
00:40:10.640 --> 00:40:13.240
And as much as we push like, oh, consistency,

782
00:40:13.240 --> 00:40:15.000
oh, like you gotta get that,

783
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:16.880
the channels will not go anywhere

784
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.680
if you leave them for six months and come back, right?

785
00:40:19.680 --> 00:40:20.800
So anyway.

786
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.040
I think when we talk about consistency,

787
00:40:23.040 --> 00:40:26.400
it's like, what are we being consistent in?

788
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:28.880
So again, it's seasonal.

789
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:30.760
For me, before becoming a mom,

790
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:34.080
I had more time, space and energy to be really consistent,

791
00:40:34.080 --> 00:40:36.760
as you guys know the story, in posture.

792
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:39.280
But the conversation that has remained,

793
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:41.280
what has remained consistent even after me

794
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:43.600
taking a break of posting content

795
00:40:43.600 --> 00:40:45.480
in this fall, winter season

796
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:50.480
is I'm still connecting with the Lord consistently, right?

797
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:57.560
About, okay, Lord, what is it that we're partnering in now?

798
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:00.800
And a lot of it is the daily,

799
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:02.280
I don't wanna use the word grind,

800
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:03.200
that's not what I'm trying to say,

801
00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:05.120
but just the daily routine,

802
00:41:05.120 --> 00:41:06.600
as monotonous as it can be sometimes,

803
00:41:06.600 --> 00:41:08.760
of pouring into my little girl.

804
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:12.000
So there's a consistent flow of ministry

805
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:16.240
happening through me, as it is with all of us.

806
00:41:16.240 --> 00:41:18.960
And so what is, I think the posture that's important to take

807
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:20.880
is are we consistently connecting with the Lord?

808
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:22.760
What can happen sometimes

809
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.240
is we can go into this hibernation mode

810
00:41:25.240 --> 00:41:27.360
because we're feeling shameful

811
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.560
about things that have stopped working.

812
00:41:30.560 --> 00:41:32.360
Like, hey, I used to be able to do this daily

813
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:35.440
and I can barely make do by doing this weekly.

814
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:37.360
And instead of me having a consistent conversation

815
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:38.440
with the Lord about it,

816
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:43.160
I can have a tendency to just retract and resist.

817
00:41:43.160 --> 00:41:44.400
And I don't even wanna talk about it

818
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.520
and I'm just overwhelmed and I just can't get to it.

819
00:41:47.520 --> 00:41:51.200
And this shame kind of starts to unfold in my heart.

820
00:41:51.200 --> 00:41:52.440
And that is what we wanna break.

821
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:55.360
So we're big believers in consistency.

822
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:58.560
It's just consistency might look different

823
00:41:58.560 --> 00:42:00.400
in different seasons.

824
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.200
I was just gonna add, like it could,

825
00:42:02.200 --> 00:42:04.560
like it couldn't, it's not just I'm posting daily

826
00:42:04.560 --> 00:42:06.520
or I'm totally disconnected from my account.

827
00:42:06.520 --> 00:42:09.320
Like, you know, figure out what works for you.

828
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:12.000
I know a lot of creators out there,

829
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.160
there's this trend as well to never be consistent

830
00:42:15.160 --> 00:42:18.000
and to only ever post or send an email

831
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:20.360
when they feel like they have something to share, right?

832
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.320
And so it could be a random Tuesday afternoon,

833
00:42:23.200 --> 00:42:24.720
it could be two weeks later on a Thursday,

834
00:42:24.720 --> 00:42:25.880
like it's a little bit random.

835
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:27.680
So you can kind of do that.

836
00:42:27.680 --> 00:42:29.240
Or I've seen creators,

837
00:42:29.240 --> 00:42:31.440
they don't have time to sit and record,

838
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:32.920
you know, a perfect video.

839
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:34.360
So they'll just go live.

840
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:36.840
They'll just go live, share for five, 10 minutes

841
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:37.680
and that's done.

842
00:42:37.680 --> 00:42:39.880
So they'll only have 10 minutes to share.

843
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:40.960
So they just do it live.

844
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:43.200
And then that's what their post was for the week

845
00:42:43.200 --> 00:42:44.200
or for the day, so.

846
00:42:44.200 --> 00:42:46.240
Yeah, so we're finding, I mean,

847
00:42:46.240 --> 00:42:48.680
we went hard on the consistency thing

848
00:42:48.680 --> 00:42:50.520
because we knew that that's what would help leverage

849
00:42:50.520 --> 00:42:53.400
the algorithms and everything and it worked.

850
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:55.040
A lot of seed was sown in that season

851
00:42:55.040 --> 00:42:56.400
where I was consistent daily

852
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:58.920
and consistent multiple times a week and all that stuff.

853
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:03.440
And I don't even know how this fits into all the training

854
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:04.480
that I've done in the past

855
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:05.960
and I'm talking to the Lord about this,

856
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.440
but like when I stopped,

857
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:12.480
I was definitely expecting the flow of followers to stop.

858
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.200
Not necessarily like losing followers,

859
00:43:15.200 --> 00:43:16.960
that happens kind of, there's ebbs and flows to that,

860
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:19.400
but just I wasn't expecting anything to grow.

861
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.280
I was like, okay, it was like hibernation mode

862
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.440
and I kind of like braced myself for it

863
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:26.600
and things are continuing to grow.

864
00:43:28.240 --> 00:43:31.600
And I think there's a miraculous side to it

865
00:43:31.600 --> 00:43:34.800
because I don't think that's like happening for everyone

866
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:37.240
that just stops posting things.

867
00:43:37.240 --> 00:43:38.720
But I think what the Lord has been showing us

868
00:43:38.720 --> 00:43:40.400
as we've been processing, okay, what's going on

869
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:44.240
is seed was sown and so there's harvest

870
00:43:44.240 --> 00:43:45.520
still being reaped from that.

871
00:43:45.520 --> 00:43:47.640
And I know that would be true for any of you guys,

872
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:50.800
seed is sown, harvest is being reaped.

873
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.120
And the important thing is not to get religious with it.

874
00:43:53.120 --> 00:43:55.440
Everything that we share with you guys, the best practices,

875
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:57.600
like we're sharing from our journey

876
00:43:57.600 --> 00:44:00.240
and what we know to be true and we know works.

877
00:44:00.240 --> 00:44:02.200
If you're feeling that the Holy Spirit

878
00:44:02.200 --> 00:44:04.560
is telling you something different, go with that

879
00:44:04.560 --> 00:44:07.920
because otherwise you are,

880
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:10.840
there's a danger of going religious with it.

881
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:13.240
I don't want you to go religious with our stuff.

882
00:44:13.240 --> 00:44:17.200
The cruelty of religion is that it's not telling you stuff

883
00:44:17.200 --> 00:44:19.000
that you can't pull off.

884
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:21.200
It's not setting standards you can't reach.

885
00:44:21.200 --> 00:44:24.560
It's setting standards that you can reach on your best day

886
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:28.040
so that when you don't reach those standards

887
00:44:28.040 --> 00:44:29.480
and you know you could have,

888
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:30.960
if you just tried a little harder,

889
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:32.560
you feel shame and condemnation.

890
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.240
That's the brutality of religion.

891
00:44:37.240 --> 00:44:38.680
And we want no part in that.

892
00:44:38.680 --> 00:44:40.320
So there is always openness.

893
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:42.080
And I know many of you, I know Marian has shared,

894
00:44:42.080 --> 00:44:43.880
hey, like I'm just, I'm feeling like the Holy Spirit

895
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:45.600
is telling me to do this.

896
00:44:45.600 --> 00:44:47.200
Do that, right?

897
00:44:48.240 --> 00:44:49.080
Do that.

898
00:44:49.080 --> 00:44:49.920
You guys are mature.

899
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:50.760
We trust you.

900
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:51.800
We know that we trust the Spirit in you.

901
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:53.400
But what we're sharing when we're talking

902
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:54.840
about different things that have worked

903
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:57.840
different tactics enough, it's because it's worked for us

904
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.280
and it's worked for others that we have mentioned.

905
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.440
So, if you're not hearing anything, try the tactics, right, until you start hearing some

906
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:06.440
things.

907
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:07.440
Keep moving.

908
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:08.440
Yeah.

909
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:09.440
Yeah.

910
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:10.440
That's good.

911
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:12.440
So, do you want to take any more questions?

912
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:13.440
Walt, did you have something?

913
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.320
I didn't want to skip over you.

914
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:16.320
Yeah.

915
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:17.320
It's something short.

916
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:21.200
I came in right at the end of what you were saying.

917
00:45:21.200 --> 00:45:25.840
And from what I've heard so far are things that, yeah, I'm going through just as well,

918
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:29.400
and I'm getting more and more downloads and clarity on things.

919
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:31.640
And some of it, Lindsay, I wrote you about.

920
00:45:31.640 --> 00:45:39.160
And with all the other things that are going on, it is very, very easy to go, oh my gosh,

921
00:45:39.160 --> 00:45:41.840
I have to do this, I have to do that.

922
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:48.600
And really, this last week has been, you know what, I just can do what I can do, and God,

923
00:45:48.600 --> 00:45:50.960
you just have to bless it.

924
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:57.840
And not be so concerned about trying to reach each and every thing that I've set for myself.

925
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:04.200
I even realized I was in the middle of a book that I was going to do an e-book on, and it

926
00:46:04.200 --> 00:46:10.080
was this past week that somebody said something, and it reminded me, my crap, that's been sitting

927
00:46:10.080 --> 00:46:11.080
there for four months.

928
00:46:11.080 --> 00:46:16.480
Because I just, I had totally forgot about it.

929
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:20.440
So now I'm, you know, I even have somebody that's helping me to go through that and to

930
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:24.360
look at it to make sure that it's good, and then I can publish it.

931
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:29.800
But I mean, my gosh, there is so much that's going on.

932
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:37.480
And I am, you know, I am very thankful for this group, because you guys have gone above

933
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:39.120
and beyond putting up with me.

934
00:46:39.120 --> 00:46:40.120
Oh, come on, Walt.

935
00:46:40.120 --> 00:46:41.120
You're an easy case.

936
00:46:41.120 --> 00:46:42.120
You're not as hard of a case as you think you are.

937
00:46:42.120 --> 00:46:43.120
Give yourself more credit.

938
00:46:43.120 --> 00:46:44.120
That's all I wanted to say.

939
00:46:44.120 --> 00:46:45.120
That's all I wanted to say.

940
00:46:45.120 --> 00:46:46.120
So you said something that was a great point.

941
00:46:46.120 --> 00:46:56.720
So you said, oh, and there was this idea for an e-book that's kind of been sitting

942
00:46:56.720 --> 00:46:57.720
on the shelf.

943
00:46:57.720 --> 00:47:00.520
So this is what you can use the blueprint for, right?

944
00:47:00.520 --> 00:47:04.280
All of these ideas, where do they, what blocks do they fit in?

945
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:08.440
That is a helpful thing, because sometimes there's like, we're in one block, say like,

946
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:12.160
hey, I'm in a season where I'm building my traffic, but I also have this idea for this

947
00:47:12.160 --> 00:47:14.120
like e-book out here.

948
00:47:14.120 --> 00:47:19.280
And we start to feel this like, angst, because we can't quite, we don't really know where

949
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:20.560
our attention should be.

950
00:47:20.560 --> 00:47:24.640
So this is what's helpful to have that blueprint of like, okay, where on the shelf does this

951
00:47:24.640 --> 00:47:25.920
sit?

952
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:31.160
And then we can kind of start to make a plan as our seasons shift, as things, as our circumstances

953
00:47:31.160 --> 00:47:34.600
change, like how we can spend our time and energy and focus in building what and when

954
00:47:34.600 --> 00:47:36.320
we build it, right?

955
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.320
So we'll drop a link to that too in the group.

956
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:40.320
So you guys have that.

957
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:41.320
The blueprint.

958
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:42.320
Yeah.

959
00:47:42.520 --> 00:47:43.520
I get that all the time.

960
00:47:43.520 --> 00:47:45.840
Cause like, Bruce will have this idea and I'm like, I'm not really sure, like, where

961
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:46.840
does this fit?

962
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:47.840
Which block does this fit in?

963
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:48.840
Is this like a traffic building?

964
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:49.840
Something is this conversion?

965
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:50.840
Okay, great.

966
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:51.840
It's a conversion thing.

967
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:55.800
Well, we're not really in a conversion season right now because we've got a tribe that we're

968
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:58.120
meeting with like every week.

969
00:47:58.120 --> 00:48:01.880
And so that's how we can, and some, and unless we can delegate it, right?

970
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:03.880
So we're building a team as we're able.

971
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:07.880
And so there's things that our team might be working on that are in that traffic source,

972
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:11.120
but we might personally be working on our, in our tribe.

973
00:48:11.120 --> 00:48:17.840
So we've, I have someone I follow as well, taught, calls it like your energy investment.

974
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:18.840
Yeah.

975
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:20.840
Like where is your actual energy being focused?

976
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:25.160
Some stuff you can put on, on kind of autopilot.

977
00:48:25.160 --> 00:48:29.000
So you can either have someone helping post or edit or do stuff for you.

978
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:30.800
And it kind of puts it on autopilot.

979
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.960
And the example he used was like, if you're needing, if you're like, I want to get fit

980
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:41.080
and work out well, me having to like actively go and run or exercise every single day.

981
00:48:42.040 --> 00:48:43.040
It's very active.

982
00:48:43.040 --> 00:48:45.920
Like I'm actively investing my energy into this every single day.

983
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:50.760
But at one way that, you know, he outsourced it was he, you know, got a personal trainer

984
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:51.760
or something.

985
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:52.760
So it's kind of got on autopilot.

986
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:57.760
Like this guy would just text him, they would go off, like figure out a date.

987
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:03.120
Like it's just happens automatically, just not taking active energy to focus on it.

988
00:49:03.120 --> 00:49:07.520
So those are just things to, to be thinking about as far as like, and it's going to shift,

989
00:49:07.520 --> 00:49:09.400
you know, season to season.

990
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:11.440
We're constantly having that discussion of, yes.

991
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:14.440
Hey, we would love to know the, like, what's the target.

992
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:16.280
Oh, let's do that thing.

993
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:19.640
But not, there's like a totally different conversation of like, okay, so when, like,

994
00:49:19.640 --> 00:49:21.360
when do we do that?

995
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.720
And it's okay to say, Hey, that's a great, like bucket list thing.

996
00:49:24.720 --> 00:49:27.480
And we'll look at it later down the road.

997
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:31.680
But and generally it's me coming up with the idea and Lindsay helping with the timing of

998
00:49:31.680 --> 00:49:32.680
it.

999
00:49:32.680 --> 00:49:36.800
And so we've learned to like, like kind of figure out what the tension is, because we

1000
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:41.440
probably would have like, like crashed and burned Kingdom Messengers if we had done it

1001
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:42.440
on my time schedule.

1002
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:46.160
And we would have all been like burnt out in the process.

1003
00:49:46.160 --> 00:49:48.840
Because I, we had the idea and I wanted to like launch it a week later.

1004
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:52.800
And I think you said we ended up doing it two or three months later from when we first

1005
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:56.640
started and ended up being the best thing because guess what, nobody wants to be doing

1006
00:49:56.640 --> 00:49:58.560
a challenge like over Christmas.

1007
00:49:58.560 --> 00:50:00.040
So I mean, I thought it'd be fun.

1008
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.040
But, you know, there's, there's, there's seasons, there's stuff.

1009
00:50:03.040 --> 00:50:07.400
So you got to use like people, Lords put in your life to give feedback, even

1010
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:08.860
if it's not what we want to hear.

1011
00:50:08.860 --> 00:50:09.740
So that's always good.

1012
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:12.320
And that's like, and guys, you know, if you're like, well, I don't really

1013
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.520
have a, like a spouse that's partnering with me on this or a business

1014
00:50:15.520 --> 00:50:19.960
partner, a ministry partner, like utilize us in this time to get some feedback.

1015
00:50:20.340 --> 00:50:23.040
If you're feeling like there's tension, if you're feeling like I have a lot

1016
00:50:23.040 --> 00:50:26.440
of ideas, but I'm not quite certain how to start executing or when I start

1017
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:30.240
executing, like, and you might have other mentors in your life as well.

1018
00:50:30.240 --> 00:50:33.120
That would maybe be a better fit to like whoever you're comfortable with, but

1019
00:50:33.120 --> 00:50:38.080
like utilize coaches and mentors in that space, like we've realized we can't say

1020
00:50:38.080 --> 00:50:44.180
it enough that a lot of us aren't used to having like regular touchpoints

1021
00:50:44.180 --> 00:50:44.920
with coaches and mentors.

1022
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:46.480
We don't know how to use it properly.

1023
00:50:46.720 --> 00:50:48.680
Like, we're not wanting to take like advantage.

1024
00:50:48.680 --> 00:50:50.320
So we keep our questions for ourselves.

1025
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:54.120
Like, don't hold back and you feel like, Hey, is this an appropriate

1026
00:50:54.120 --> 00:50:54.480
question?

1027
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:56.160
Cause I'm really struggling with X, Y, and Z.

1028
00:50:56.160 --> 00:50:57.600
And I'm not quite sure how it fits.

1029
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:01.360
Like we want to provide you with tools to kind of give you a framework that

1030
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:04.760
will help make things a little bit clearer, but utilize us in those

1031
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:10.160
conversations, like we'll let you know if you're using this too much, right.

1032
00:51:10.160 --> 00:51:11.960
Kindly, we won't embarrass you.

1033
00:51:12.240 --> 00:51:12.840
That's good.

1034
00:51:13.240 --> 00:51:14.400
Uh, is there any other questions?

1035
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:14.760
Yeah.

1036
00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:17.280
Any other questions or Hey, Marian.

1037
00:51:18.680 --> 00:51:21.480
Um, very quickly, this is a techie question.

1038
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:28.080
Um, I, I'm raking up a Christmas list and I thought I could ask my family to

1039
00:51:28.080 --> 00:51:31.560
buy me something for the, um, doing videos.

1040
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:33.320
So I'm thinking of lights.

1041
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:34.680
What would you say, Bruce?

1042
00:51:35.160 --> 00:51:36.760
I saw your Facebook post.

1043
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:38.440
I was just talking to Lindsay about this before.

1044
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:43.880
Um, let me, uh, I'll drop the link to that, but I'll also share it here.

1045
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:48.240
Um, I actually just, uh, shared this with some friends.

1046
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:52.520
Um, you said that you had a few follow-up questions as far as like,

1047
00:51:52.560 --> 00:51:53.320
Oh yeah.

1048
00:51:53.520 --> 00:51:55.920
Are you filming with your phone right now?

1049
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:56.320
I am.

1050
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:56.880
Yes.

1051
00:51:57.400 --> 00:51:57.880
Okay.

1052
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.560
Um, cause that'll determine to what kind of lights and stuff.

1053
00:52:02.240 --> 00:52:05.120
It's easier with all the short videos to use the phone.

1054
00:52:05.120 --> 00:52:06.040
Then definitely.

1055
00:52:06.040 --> 00:52:06.360
Right.

1056
00:52:06.640 --> 00:52:07.040
Yeah.

1057
00:52:07.560 --> 00:52:09.920
Um, I'll send you one or two options.

1058
00:52:10.120 --> 00:52:13.880
Um, you're not really going to go wrong.

1059
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:15.000
Let's put it that way.

1060
00:52:15.520 --> 00:52:18.120
Um, and I'm just, sorry, I'm just pulling up the link and

1061
00:52:18.120 --> 00:52:19.320
then I'll drop them in here.

1062
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.880
Um,

1063
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.760
and, and I'm not going to ask them for anything more than a hundred dollars.

1064
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:25.320
Just,

1065
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:27.320
yeah, let me find this one.

1066
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:27.840
Okay.

1067
00:52:28.240 --> 00:52:35.560
Um, honestly, like the, if you look for, I think it's LED video

1068
00:52:35.560 --> 00:52:38.680
lights on, you know, Amazon or something.

1069
00:52:39.160 --> 00:52:43.560
Um, and then kind of just go by like the most reviews is generally

1070
00:52:43.560 --> 00:52:45.400
like you can kind of just pick your price point.

1071
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:46.200
Okay.

1072
00:52:46.200 --> 00:52:46.440
Yeah.

1073
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:47.840
I was looking at these earlier.

1074
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:48.400
Yes.

1075
00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:48.880
Yeah.

1076
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.600
And, and really you don't need two lights.

1077
00:52:51.720 --> 00:52:54.880
Like I know sometimes you're like, Oh, I got to have two to make it symmetrical

1078
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:58.240
or something, but really one really good light is probably better than going with

1079
00:52:58.240 --> 00:52:58.720
two.

1080
00:52:59.200 --> 00:53:03.040
Um, I'm just skimming these to see if there's one that I have seen before, but

1081
00:53:03.040 --> 00:53:05.360
I can, I can send you some specific recommendations.

1082
00:53:05.600 --> 00:53:06.600
That would be great.

1083
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:07.160
Yeah.

1084
00:53:07.200 --> 00:53:07.800
I,

1085
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:12.720
I try to only send you things that I've actually tried myself.

1086
00:53:13.200 --> 00:53:17.840
I have recommended stuff to people and then it doesn't like a long time ago.

1087
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:21.480
So I do want to make sure it's something, um, that, that we've used.

1088
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:24.680
Um, so yeah, I'll send you, I'll send you one, but generally like going with,

1089
00:53:25.120 --> 00:53:27.600
it's an LED light, so it's not actually going to be hot.

1090
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:31.000
Um, you don't have bulbs or anything to mess with it.

1091
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:32.240
They last forever.

1092
00:53:32.600 --> 00:53:35.600
And then if you have something where a lot of these will have a little remote

1093
00:53:35.600 --> 00:53:40.000
control as well, even the ones under a hundred bucks, um, so you can sit down

1094
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.840
on your chair or whatever, and then hit a button and the light goes on.

1095
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:44.280
That's very convenient.

1096
00:53:44.640 --> 00:53:45.560
Okay, good.

1097
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.120
And most of them will include a tripe, a stand of some kinds.

1098
00:53:49.120 --> 00:53:51.640
You can kind of set it up in one spot and just leave it.

1099
00:53:52.080 --> 00:53:55.960
And then that would just sit in that chair and that stand stays there.

1100
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:57.680
And then you just know that it always looks good.

1101
00:53:58.240 --> 00:53:58.640
Um,

1102
00:53:58.720 --> 00:54:04.080
is the filters important because some of them have filters, um, with different

1103
00:54:04.080 --> 00:54:09.920
colors, all my walls are pale colors, which doesn't work well with white hair.

1104
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:14.840
Um, so that would get a little more sophisticated where you would have like

1105
00:54:15.080 --> 00:54:18.160
lighting, like we've got here, the blue lights back here.

1106
00:54:18.240 --> 00:54:20.560
Um, everything's backwards.

1107
00:54:20.560 --> 00:54:20.800
Sorry.

1108
00:54:22.120 --> 00:54:23.200
They're those blue lights.

1109
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:28.520
I was just giving like an even wash, um, to it and we can change colors and stuff.

1110
00:54:28.520 --> 00:54:33.800
We rarely do, but, um, we have one big light source that's lighting up us and

1111
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:37.840
then a different light source that's lighting up the background, create a

1112
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:38.560
little bit of separation.

1113
00:54:38.680 --> 00:54:43.280
So you have to, it's kind of layering a few things, but generally just lighting

1114
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:46.640
up the room and, and again, you're not going to take the light and point it

1115
00:54:46.640 --> 00:54:51.120
right at you, you're going to take it and maybe point it at a wall or put it at

1116
00:54:51.120 --> 00:54:54.560
the ceiling and it will kind of bounce down and make it look nice.

1117
00:54:54.560 --> 00:54:55.560
So, okay.

1118
00:54:55.560 --> 00:54:56.320
That's great.

1119
00:54:56.920 --> 00:55:00.080
And Kathy asked, are these lights, uh, for a different.

1120
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.280
purpose or better than a ring light yeah the ring lights can be great the only trick with that is to

1121
00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:09.920
don't it don't have a ring light where your your phone goes in the middle and the ring

1122
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:16.240
goes around it because you'll get these really weird like ring things in your eyes yeah as long

1123
00:55:16.240 --> 00:55:21.040
as you can put the phone there and the light kind of separated to a different um place it's a

1124
00:55:21.040 --> 00:55:26.160
different angle it should work really well um you're just always when it comes to lighting

1125
00:55:26.160 --> 00:55:33.120
you're not looking for harsh shadows you want soft soft light as possible um typically works best so

1126
00:55:35.200 --> 00:55:40.160
awesome all right thank you bruce

1127
00:55:42.720 --> 00:55:48.160
awesome okay guys yeah well i don't see any more questions so we'll wrap this up just know we're

1128
00:55:48.160 --> 00:55:53.040
in the messy middle so it's gonna feel a little messy and that's okay that's okay um we will see

1129
00:55:53.040 --> 00:55:58.560
you guys next week and if you have any questions between then you can always reach out yeah and i

1130
00:55:58.560 --> 00:56:04.000
know that tamera dropped the instructions that we talked about last week she read put those in the

1131
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:07.760
facebook group so those should be at the top as far as how to submit your landing page so that

1132
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:11.840
we can get that built for you so that's in the facebook group and kingdom messenger page so yeah

1133
00:56:12.560 --> 00:56:17.040
all right bye bye guys have a great week bye