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That's it.

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Hey,

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Hey,

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you made it tonight.

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I'm so sorry.

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Yeah.

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For now I'm connected. We'll see how long it lasts.

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We'll see if we can get a chance to talk with us.

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Getting to hear you or anything. That's when it usually,

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as far as I remember, won't let you stay on. Yeah.

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So.

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And then I've been seeing your post asking people in your area.

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Hey.

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And does anybody.

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Yeah.

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Oh,

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we had a friend stopped by on his way home from work with a different

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self provider.

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And he came in. I said, do you have service? He's like,

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I got nothing.

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So come in under the booster.

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I still got nothing.

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So, but this came back. It's working.

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I don't know what happened, but I'll take it.

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We have Verizon.

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I'm sorry.

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We had an online package. They offered me, but.

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It wasn't an option.

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Sorry.

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But we definitely won't be doing online school this year. After all.

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If I can't stay connected, I don't want to take a chance on it.

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Yeah.

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So y'all were doing an online school. I didn't know that.

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We were looking into it for Chloe, at least where she's older.

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Yeah.

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And I was like, well,

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we could do that and do dual enrollment, but I don't see that working.

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Sorry. I'm trying to get this light, right? So y'all can actually see me.

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Well, I hope that y'all, that y'all figure out what it is.

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That is going to work best.

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I thought about mentioning.

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Listen to y'all.

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I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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And I've been very pleased with coverage.

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The only time that I've really noticed I'm a problem.

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It is when I was staying is last.

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Well, obviously for some reason, you know you know,

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on these zoom calls I have often,

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I think I started having issues when they were like,

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they were still like,

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I mean maybe the lockdown thing,

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but I think it was like after a lot of that had lifted,

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but they were still like recommending people stay at home.

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But then they were like more businesses were opening up, etc.

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All of a sudden I started having issues.

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And then I specially started having issues.

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When I moved into my friend's guest room,

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Which I'm no longer there, but I moved in there and they,

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their house.

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They always have problems with their internet, always have,

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Hey, Carrie.

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And so I noticed that that's when I have trouble,

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but everywhere else that I have been, even out.

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In, in West Texas, where it is like, there's, there's literally,

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there's one provider that has a monopoly out there.

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My Verizon hotspot.

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Could get internet. So that was great.

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But, but anyway, so,

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but so anyway, I thought I'd got mentioning Verizon.

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I was like, well, Ashley, I'm going to say,

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they're going to research it.

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They're going to figure out what they want to do. And.

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And all of my 18 friends.

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Local.

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Oh, it was funny because they would say, oh, it picks up great everywhere,

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but the Mountwood dip.

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And we live behind Mountwood park.

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It's like, are you serious? Are you picking on me?

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Because you literally come down this hill and you could turn into the

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mountain.

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And then you go back up the hill and we're.

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After you go down that hill, you go down even farther.

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We were in the holler.

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This is how we say it.

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You're going to part.

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First, what is the holler? That's yes.

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We're in the holler.

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So everybody said, oh yeah, it picks up great.

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Except for at Mountwood. It's like, okay, are you serious?

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picking on me. They were serious. So, but it'll be all right. I must have left this

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spot between all of these towers, so I'm sorry. It's all right. It's back, so I'm good.

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Yeah, good. Well, Carrie, what about you? You look tired. I'm very tired, but I wanted to hop

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on here because I wasn't sure how many of these I'm going to be able to hop on to,

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when the baby is born. So, I was like, oh, I'm gonna at least hop on for a little while until

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I can keep my eyes open. Well, it's 10 days, right? Yeah. August 9th. Yeah. How exciting.

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So, did Eric come early or late or on time? He was late. My midwives pushed out my due date

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a week, and then from there, he was 10 days late. So, I was 41 and a half weeks.

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Yeah. It's really late. Us girls, all my three sisters, we all have home births with midwives.

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It's just what we've always done, and they've all been late. My sister, my one sister, Loretta,

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was 18 days late, and then with the other one, I think she's like 16 days late. So,

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we've just kind of accepted the fact we just take longer to bake our babies,

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but they're all born healthy, and they aren't huge, and they just take their own time.

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That's right.

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They come on their terms, not ours, not our schedule.

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Yeah. Well, in fact, the reason that I'm being very quiet is because of the baby.

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I am staying with my brother and sister-in-law, and they have a one-year-old. In fact,

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I'm sitting in the middle of the leftovers of his birthday party decorations,

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which was a Hawaiian theme, which was really cute. So, here's like a little lei that we wore,

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and she did such a good job. Oh, my word. Did a balloon garland and everything, and so he's

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having so much fun with the balloons afterwards. Anyway, so he is asleep since he goes down between

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7 and 7 30, and so even though he's in the other part of the house, you know, it can sound,

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can bounce down the house, down the hall, so I'm trying to be quiet, but anyway, but yeah, so

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we'll look forward to getting to see a little one. Do you have a name picked out,

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or are you maybe not even sharing? No, we don't have a name. We have no idea what we're gonna

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name him. Yeah, we know that it's a boy, but that's as far as, you know, we're like, yeah,

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we have tried and tried and tried to complete, so we're like, okay, forget it. We're just gonna

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wait till he's born, and then we'll see what he looks like. No, but just know.

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Yeah, picking at John. This is John.

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It's what people have for thousands of years named their babies. In fact, the majority of people

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in the world do not name their babies until they're born.

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No. One of my friends had, I think it was their fifth, and they took like two weeks to name him,

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so I'm like, there's no, there's no pressure. I don't think we'll wait two weeks, but we might,

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but they were literally like, this is our baby. There's so many ways, and we don't know his name.

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Let you leave the hospital, so that's the benefit, one of the benefits of homebirth.

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They want you to leave the hospital until you name the baby, and so I've heard stories of like,

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people that like, who got their name at like, literally the last minute, because the nurse was

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like, look, if you do not name this child, I'm going to name it, and like, she had pinned a

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paper, and so like, uh, okay. Oh my goodness. I guess they, yeah, they have to fill out all that

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paperwork before they discharge them. Correct. They have to know the baby's name, and all the

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certificate, and all the investment, and all go to the courthouse. Uh, no. Our midwife takes care of

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all that. She sends it in, or some, somehow. All I know is that we get a social security number,

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and the birth certificate in the mail within like, a couple weeks or a month or so. Yeah. Well, good.

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Hey, Natalie. Hey, Amy. How are y'all? Hey, how's it going?

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What? Sorry, we're a few minutes late. Oh no, it's fine. We, we just get on now.

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I've noticed that we just like to kind of like chat a little bit. Say hello, but everybody's up to

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I hope y'all can hear me. Okay, I'm just trying not to be too loud for baby.

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Hi, everybody. I'm just going to stay on mute and

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Stuff so I can listen.

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Yeah.

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I know. Are you you sound tired, Amy.

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Oh, I just had a four hour nap. I feel good.

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Well, nice man. That's good. I hope you'll sleep.

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Yeah, and I got my test back. It did come back positive. So

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I'm sorry. I'm

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Oh, no, I I'm glad. That's what I wanted to prove that I had it. Oh, yeah. What, what's the benefit

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Well, just so I know that I had it. So like if other people have it. I don't have to worry

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about catching it or all and then

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You know, just yeah for my medical record just and just to know

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Yeah, that that which shall not be named

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Yeah, so and then if they ever do come out with a vaccine they say everybody has to have it I don't have to have it

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Natural antibodies all built up. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway

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I'm glad you're recovering. So yeah, I'm doing good

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Still sleeping a lot. Yeah

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That was fair

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does um

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Uh, does anyone have anything? Um that

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To start us out with um any any question or anything? Oops, my goodness. Sorry didn't realize my phone was

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If you're good

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You're frozen, I don't know if you can hear us or not

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Yeah, totally frozen on my end yeah mine too

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Was having this trouble this morning on another zoom that we do every week with another group and it was horrible

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Couldn't get it to work. Oh

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There she is

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Stephanie and I were just talking about this right but right before everybody else jumped on I was like, you know

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How because she was asking how my internet was or I was telling her how my internet was it's like well

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I didn't used to have problems until

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I don't know about two months ago

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Then you know and I don't know why I don't know what the deal was two months ago because two months ago people were finally

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So I don't know what the deal was where all of a sudden

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Um when people started getting off the internet, I started having issues with the internet

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But um anyway did what I was asking was does anybody have anything

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That has just kind of been on their mind or any questions, um any

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um any area in which they felt in a state of unrest or

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Um, they've been going through or something

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I forgot to get on here prepared with something in case nobody else did a lot to think of something

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I can let's get her start. Yeah, go for it. That's this morning

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You're prepared I love it a teacher that's teacher right there like

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I was like, okay, here's my ideas or my questions. Um

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okay, here's one thought I was having because I know in a lot of the videos and stuff you

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Talk to us about like we don't have to

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Work or like try it's not something when you try for work hard for whatever

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And then sometimes like i'll read and I think I was reading in like romans

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Nine, and then I know there's like a proverbs and it talks about like hard work. So can you explain the

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Difference or maybe more of the meaning behind both of

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When are we supposed to be working hard and when are we I guess?

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Yeah, so let's specifically talk about in romans. What was the um, what was the verse in romans?

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Because i'm familiar with proverbs and I understand what that's talking about. What was the one in romans? Can you remind me?

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Um, i'd have to look it up. So if you want to start with proverbs, we can

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You know, it'll talk about things like you know, um

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benefit of hard work look at the ants

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What else i'm talking about, you know slothfulness versus, you know

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Hard work, etc. And so understand that um that working

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where that they were under the law and under the law work is required in order in order for there

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to be movement in order to get result. We do have to put forth effort meaning strife. So when I say

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that we don't work. It's not that we don't have activities. It's just that we don't we don't need

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to strive for them because things serve us as sons of God. We don't serve them. We govern,

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but we don't have to work hard and manipulate and coerce and strive in order for something to

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happen. So in Proverbs, it was all under the old cabinet. It was according to wisdom from the tree

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of the knowledge of good and evil. And remember that in the tree of the knowledge of good and

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evil is the word good. All those things are good. You know, don't be like this lawful man and work

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hard and do all of that stuff. But it's also not from a place of rest and just being able to abide

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in God. So and you remember that just abiding in God and resting does not mean that we don't have

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activity. We do things we still have businesses and we get up every morning. We don't lay around

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all day and we, you know, we do activities, but we no longer have to worry that the burden of

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the result depends on our activity. And in the Old Testament under the old cabinet,

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the burden of the result was on the activity. And so they had to constantly talk about the value

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of hard work because it was only through hard work that they could actually get a result

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that could be labeled according to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil as being wise and good

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and, and look like the character of God. The problem is it looked like the character of God,

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but it didn't originate from the character of God and, and therefore had life in it. It had

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nothing but death in it. So that's the simple answer for, for Proverbs. But what was it in Romans?

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Makes sense because I think what I was doing is I was comparing the two because yeah, and you said

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under the old law, because then in Romans, you're right. It does talk about, that's why I underlined

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it because it says we can't get it by choosing or working hard for it. And then in Romans,

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now obviously there's probably a lot of concrete like context to that. But that's chapter nine.

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And then yeah, still chapter nine later, it says how the Gentiles have been made right by

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with God by faith. And because let's see, the Jews who tried so hard to get right with God,

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keeping the law never succeeded. Why not? Because they were trying to get right with God by keeping

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the law and being good instead of by depending on faith. And so I think that's where I was like,

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what's the difference or, but kind of how you said under the old law of why they were doing that or.

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Yeah. And that's exactly what Paul was talking about. He was drawing,

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drawing a distinction between, he was like, you know, we're all so familiar because remember

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Jesus had not been, had not died that much long, that much earlier. In other words,

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he died and rose again and kept them and enabled us to, and sealed with his blood,

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a new covenant because new covenant in order to go into effect had to be signed in blood,

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so to speak. Blood had to be shed, which is why when Jesus, when God made the covenant with

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Abraham, blood had to be shed of all of the animals. Interestingly, just a total side note,

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Abraham was asleep when Jesus made covenant because Abraham was at rest.

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God, God, that the animals had to die, blood had to be shed, and then God made covenant

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with himself. Abraham got to be beneficiary according to Hebrews. Hebrews walks us through

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that whole thing about the fact that, that Abraham was at rest in picture by the fact that God put

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Abraham into a deep sleep. And then God made covenant with himself in order to, in order to

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put into effect the covenant. So that was total side note. Point is that when Jesus,

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Jesus had not died that long earlier in which he had enacted the covenant.

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And so there was so much mindset shifting that the Jews and the Gentiles were going through because

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it was brand new. I mean, we've all been talking about this now for 2000 years, so we have quite

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a long precedence. They had just like a, like a, a few decades. In fact, for some of them,

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it wasn't even, by the time that Paul is writing this, it's about,

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about 20 years approximately. Because remember he, after the road to Damascus incident, it says

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that Paul, Paul says that he went into the wilderness for 14 years to be taught by the Lord,

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14 years. So by the time that Paul is writing all

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It's approximately 15 to 20 years after the death and resurrection of Christ.

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It is not that long.

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And the fact that they did not have books they were reading, they did not have the New

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Testament through the way that we're reading it, and so that mindset shift was so new for

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them.

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And so he's reminding them, okay, for thousands of years, you remember that God established

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the law with the Israelites, and this is all we've known, and it is ingrained in our culture

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and our entire government is built on this thing, and we're known worldwide for our laws,

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and we're now no longer, we now are choosing to believe that this man who claims to be

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God and he died on a cross on this hill right outside of Jerusalem was actually God in the

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flesh, and he says we don't need to do it anymore.

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That is major faith to have to believe something like that.

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And so he's talking in Romans through that whole thing of like, hey, look, this thing

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that we used to do for thousands of years, it will no longer work because they had to

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work so hard.

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They had to strive so hard for it.

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We no longer have to work.

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We no longer have to strive.

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It was a major mindset shift.

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So yeah, he's talking about it there, and so yeah, he was referencing it to the Old Testament

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and the fact that, hey, it was explaining why it didn't work, so yeah, but that's why.

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And also, another thing is, though, just important to note that it does still work, by the way.

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We can choose to operate according to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

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We can choose to operate according to those laws.

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They're still in effect, meaning that we can still make the same choice that Adam and Eve

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did, which we do every day.

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We can have the choice between choosing to do something according to the tree of life

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or doing it according to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and if we do it according

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to this other tree, then we follow those laws and rules, which the Lord laid out for the

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children of Israel.

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Do these things, I will bless you.

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Do these other things, and then you're not going to get good results, so you can choose

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between the good, and then you can try to avoid the evil, and these are the good things,

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and here's the formula, and here's the strategy, but if we do that, it's just a lot

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of work.

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It's a lot of effort.

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It works, but it is at least 10 times as hard, at least 10 times as hard as getting the same

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results over here, and even when we get the result, it leads to nothing but death.

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There's no life in it.

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It's not eternal, but if we do that same thing from rest, the result actually results in

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something that breeds life because it's from the actual life source, so anyway, but that's

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the difference.

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Okay, that makes a lot better sense.

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Does anyone else have questions, or I have another one?

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Yeah, yeah, does anyone have anything?

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I think you're welcome to just go ahead and just blow through all of yours, and then at

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the end, if anyone has anything they can ask.

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Oh, Carrie, did you have a follow-up question to it?

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It's totally fine.

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Natalie can keep going.

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That's totally fine.

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I just had one more, really, actually, because you summed up all the others, but I was curious

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to hear from you, and maybe you have a video somewhere, but I love how when you're doing

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your videos, you're like, God spoke to me today, or today we were talking about ... It's

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like I love how you can tell your relationship with him is so close, but it's like you literally

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you talk about him, and the way he speaks to you, it's like, oh, you were literally

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sitting on the couch that day, and going over your plan, or what he was speaking to you,

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and so I love that, and I would love to know how, because I think sometimes I still struggle

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with is this my idea, is God speaking this to me, and so how have you seen that process

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play out of knowing that you are just having this dialogue?

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That's what it sounds like to me when you explain it.

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It's almost like you and God are having this dialogue with each other, so how did you develop

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that, or how can we develop that more so too in ourselves?

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First of all, hey, Emma.

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How you doing, sweetie?

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It's your first time to join us.

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Yay.

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Let's see.

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How did I do it?

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How did I develop it?

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I'm trying to think of a very simple answer, because sometimes it's kind of like, I don't

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know, if someone were to ask you, well, how did you develop your relationship with Skylar?

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It's like, oh, I mean, it was, my goodness, it was way back in high school, and it was

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like, how did we start?

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I don't know.

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What did we do?

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All the normal things.

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But, so I'm trying to think of how to describe it.

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For one thing, I was very intentional

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in choosing him as a being,

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choosing that he is a being,

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and that I'm interacting with him.

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It's so, you know, talking about how we choose our reality

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based off of what it is that God says is true.

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So then we just take, well, what does God say is true?

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And I'm gonna choose that that's reality.

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I'm gonna choose that that is my reality.

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I'm gonna frame up my world like that.

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and I would interact with him like that.

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That's where I started to get the furthest

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in my relationship with the Lord, the fastest.

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Choosing, yeah, like I said,

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choosing the real being that I was interacting with.

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And so I would just talk to him and then I would,

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and then as far as like him like responding,

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I'd become more and more sensitive in my spirit to,

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well, more and more sensitive to what actually was my spirit

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and learning to trust that the things

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that came up out of me were good,

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especially the first initial thing,

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the things that weren't afraid,

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the things that ignored fear, that ignored problems,

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that ignored doubt, that just felt full of life,

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in other words.

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When I talk to the Lord, I feel full, I feel full of life.

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I feel that there's a peace, that there's a joy.

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of the Holy Spirit as well,

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where you kind of feel like this,

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like this, I don't wanna say a heaviness,

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but you just feel like, you feel this way,

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you feel, okay, something's not quite right.

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But at the same time, you also know

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that that's different than a weight

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that's under which you feel burdened,

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like you've got this obligation,

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this fear, I'm being enslaved.

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There's a difference between feeling an enslaved weight

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versus feeling like a weight of conviction

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of the Holy Spirit.

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So I just wanted to mention that.

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But that aside, when I just talk with the Lord,

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and I'll ask him questions, I'm trying to think,

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okay, like today, I was talking to the Lord today,

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I literally woke up and I just had something on my heart

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that I had not talked to him about, like in English,

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like I had presented my spirit before him,

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and he knew my heart, and I knew he knew the agony

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that I was in about some situations in my life,

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but I hadn't stopped to consider,

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Ashley, he is a being, and he wants to hear from you

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in English, in your language.

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So in my head, and in my spirit,

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I would talk to him in English, okay, Lord,

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and I was doing it this morning when I woke up

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before I even got up out of bed.

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I was like, okay, Lord, this is what I'm,

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I'm being honest with you, I'm afraid of these things.

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I'm gonna be very transparent.

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Again, this is what I'm afraid of,

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and this is how I'm feeling that you're interacting with me,

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and this is how I'm feeling that you're responding to me,

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and Lord, I just don't know.

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I'm confused, I'm hurt, I know that you want me to trust you,

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but I don't really know how to trust you in this area.

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What is it that you're asking of me?

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I don't, I feel like I'm on this journey,

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and I'm on this, and I'm in this fog.

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You know, what is it that you're asking?

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and I, and then I started to get this,

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and so I started asking very specific questions,

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so that's another thing that I do,

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is I just open up my heart to him,

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and then I eventually transition

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into asking him very specific questions,

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because he already knows in my heart

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that he likes me to engage with him,

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and be honest by articulating,

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by articulating what is going on with me,

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so that I'm not hiding,

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or into that, I'm acknowledging nothing,

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so that I acknowledge to myself

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that I'm not hiding from the Lord,

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that I'm not hiding the fact that I'm doubting him,

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that I'm not hiding the fact that I'm afraid,

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but like Adam did, like, okay, Lord,

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I'm coming out here, full vulnerability,

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this is what I really think,

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and so I do that, even though he already knows,

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it helps my relationship with him,

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because it's acknowledging the fact

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that I'm bringing myself to the table,

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I'm not just there as the servant, as this victim,

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what is he gonna ask me to do,

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what does he want me to do,

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what does he not want me to do,

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and yes, sir, I'm gonna, yes, sir, no, sir,

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what do I want, and so I bring it to the table,

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including all of my fears, et cetera,

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so that I can, he can then interact with me honestly,

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and so it's honoring the Lord for me to do that,

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and then from that point,

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then I start asking him very specific questions,

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okay, Lord, what about this, or what about this,

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or how do you want me to do this,

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or how do you want me to do that,

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and then I just stop, and I just,

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and I figure out, and I just think,

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what am I sensing, sensing in the spirit,

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what am I sensing, and when I've started asking him.

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very specific questions, all of a sudden inside of me, I just felt everything shift and I felt

468
00:30:05.840 --> 00:30:10.960
completely at peace. Because I asked the Lord, it's like, Lord, am I doing something? What's the

469
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:18.000
word I used with him? Am I doing something wrong? Maybe I used the word wrong. You know, am I doing

470
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:28.320
something wrong when I do X, Y, and Z? So this is my brother. Yeah, I haven't eaten yet, so I'll

471
00:30:28.320 --> 00:30:36.640
leave that for you. Anyway, when I asked a specific question, I was thinking, you know,

472
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:42.080
okay, Lord, am I doing, I've been doing this thinking that this is what you wanted me to do,

473
00:30:42.080 --> 00:30:49.520
but am I not doing it the way that you're inviting me to? So am I quote unquote doing it wrong? I

474
00:30:49.520 --> 00:30:54.320
know that's a bad word to use now, but I didn't have another word to use. And the Lord is very

475
00:30:54.320 --> 00:31:02.160
gracious of that, very gracious of the fact that I'm in a transition between the old mindset and

476
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:07.840
the new, and sometimes my language hasn't quite matured to whatever it's supposed to be. And so

477
00:31:07.840 --> 00:31:13.120
that's okay. So I just told him, okay, Lord, am I doing something wrong? And immediately in my,

478
00:31:13.120 --> 00:31:18.160
and I asked, should I be doing X instead? And immediately my spirit went into peace,

479
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.560
but it didn't go into peace related to the fact that I should do this other. I was asking Lord,

480
00:31:22.560 --> 00:31:28.320
am I fine doing what I'm doing? And immediately everything shifted all of this turmoil, all this

481
00:31:28.320 --> 00:31:35.920
upset, all this unsettledness, all of this fear stopped. I was like, okay, so I'm fine. I'm fine

482
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:41.600
doing what it is that I've been doing or whatever. So there are things that even though I'm telling

483
00:31:41.600 --> 00:31:46.000
you that what it is that I'm feeling it in this spirit, I have not heard the audible voice of God.

484
00:31:46.080 --> 00:31:54.480
Amy has heard the audible voice of God. I haven't. But I know based off of my time with the Lord,

485
00:31:54.480 --> 00:32:01.200
how I feel in the spirit. I know in my spirit what he's saying, and I can often, not all the time,

486
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:08.160
translate it into English. So that's when I tell y'all, God said this. I don't, I didn't always

487
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:13.200
hear it in English. Sometimes God will tell me something and I'll hear it in English. It'll be

488
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:18.560
an exact phrase that he'll use. No, it's not an audible voice, but it's an exact phrase that I,

489
00:32:18.560 --> 00:32:23.440
my brain registers. Oh my word, he just said that in English. But the majority of the time,

490
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:31.520
I'm just feeling something, but I know how to articulate it into English. And so I tell y'all,

491
00:32:31.520 --> 00:32:37.120
God said, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Well, he didn't actually give me that phrase. Sometimes,

492
00:32:37.120 --> 00:32:42.000
sometimes he does. He actually very often talks to me in phrases, but sometimes it's just like,

493
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:46.880
I just sensed him in my spirit. So I spent that time with him, um, as an, as a being.

494
00:32:48.080 --> 00:32:54.480
And whenever I read the Bible, I didn't read, I didn't just read it as, um, I'm here reading a

495
00:32:54.480 --> 00:33:00.720
book and I'm hoping that I'm going to learn something. No, a being that desires to have

496
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:06.080
a relationship with me wrote that book. So Lord, I'm inviting you here. Talk to me out of the page.

497
00:33:06.080 --> 00:33:13.680
This is me hearing from you. What are you saying to me? Not what did you say? And now I'm reading,

498
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:20.080
uh, historical records. No, what are you saying to me right now? What are you saying? I'm

499
00:33:20.080 --> 00:33:26.080
constantly pinging everything off of my spirit. When I listen to a teacher, a preacher, read a

500
00:33:26.080 --> 00:33:32.720
book, whatever, I'm constantly pinging everything off of my spirit. And that, that helps me practice

501
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:39.360
discerning what the Holy spirit is saying, because I ping everything off of them.

502
00:33:39.360 --> 00:33:43.120
It does the spirit like it. Does it not like it? What's the spirit saying about this? Should I

503
00:33:43.120 --> 00:33:48.720
accept it? Should I swallow it? Should I reject it? What do I do with it? Does that, does that

504
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:56.240
help or, um, or did you know? No, that was really great. That was perfect. Thank you.

505
00:33:56.800 --> 00:34:02.000
And I, cause the big part I think was like the part about him being a being like,

506
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:06.880
yeah, like almost like you, cause I know you hear that about it's developed in that relationship,

507
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:10.639
like as if you're talking to your friend or something, but kind of hearing how you

508
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:16.880
walk through that. Um, yeah, it was really helpful. So thank you. Yeah. So that's a good

509
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:23.840
point to bring up is that so often we consider that the way that we do things, um, in the,

510
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:32.159
in the earth are, um, what we think, yeah, but God is, is so other he's so different.

511
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:42.880
And anything that we do with other human beings, we can't do with God because it's not Holy enough.

512
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:51.520
It's not, it's not good enough when we're not considering the fact that no, why do relationships

513
00:34:51.520 --> 00:34:56.800
work the way they do? Because God created them to work like that. And why would God create them

514
00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:59.920
to work in a specific way that was bad for us to relate to?

515
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:05.480
him up. So if we are meant to relate to him as in like relate to each other, like really

516
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:11.320
truly value someone, look them in the eye, talk to them, give them our full attention,

517
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:16.600
et cetera, et cetera. Why would we think that, oh yeah, but you know, God doesn't want us

518
00:35:16.600 --> 00:35:22.640
to interact with him like that because it's not good enough. So we can use that as, as

519
00:35:22.640 --> 00:35:29.040
a marker, as an initial point from which we can begin to develop a relationship with God.

520
00:35:29.040 --> 00:35:34.880
It's not subpar. It's, um, it was created by the Lord and it's meant as a picture and

521
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:39.720
as a shadow of the way that we're supposed to interact with him. So it at least gets

522
00:35:39.720 --> 00:35:45.600
us a starting point. And so that's what I would recommend. Um, uh, just looking at how

523
00:35:45.600 --> 00:35:50.240
you interact with other people, what it is that they like and they don't like and interact

524
00:35:50.240 --> 00:35:53.400
with the Lord like that, except for the fact that you should, that we should know that

525
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:58.120
God always accepts us even when other people don't. And God doesn't reject us like other

526
00:35:58.200 --> 00:36:01.840
people do that. That's not what I mean. It's just kind of, well, you know, when you talk

527
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:08.440
to someone, you give them your full attention and you expect them to answer back and you,

528
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:12.120
that's another big thing. Oh, that's a big one. I'm glad I thought about that one. Expect

529
00:36:12.120 --> 00:36:19.400
him to answer back. Um, again, it's framing our world according to what he says. So we're

530
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:24.600
choosing that something is true and God will honor what it is that we've chosen that he

531
00:36:24.600 --> 00:36:31.080
said about himself, expect him to answer as opposed to, Oh, I hope he does. Wouldn't

532
00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:35.400
that be nice. But I bet he probably, he probably won't other people hearing, but I probably

533
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:42.320
don't know. Expect it, expect him to answer. Um, and I kind of mean it like hold them accountable

534
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:46.240
to it. That's probably a really bad way to phrase it. I don't mean hold them accountable,

535
00:36:46.240 --> 00:36:51.000
like hold it over his head and demand it. I just mean, he's the one who says that he

536
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:57.760
wants to interact with us like that. So we're like, okay, God, then I expect you to, okay.

537
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:09.560
That's a really big one is expect him to answer. Thank you. Go ahead.

538
00:37:09.560 --> 00:37:15.560
My question is if we are living in the spirit and operating out of the tree of life, are

539
00:37:15.560 --> 00:37:25.480
we subject to living under the curse? In short, um, in short, can I, can I escape child?

540
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:32.440
Can I escape child? That's kind of the root of my question because it's waking up a little

541
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:37.600
bit. Can you, what's the question? I said in short, my question is, can I escape painful

542
00:37:37.600 --> 00:37:50.080
childbirth? Yes, technically. Yes. But, um, but just kind of like, uh, we don't have to

543
00:37:50.080 --> 00:37:55.240
be sick. We don't have to be sick with cancer, et cetera. But the, the process of getting

544
00:37:55.240 --> 00:38:02.880
there, um, sometimes we have to walk through a process in order to get there. Um, so, uh,

545
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:08.480
that's the part of overcoming. What is it that we actually truly believe? Um, do we believe

546
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:14.800
God to the extent that he says that he is good and that he is, that we are healed, that we don't,

547
00:38:15.600 --> 00:38:21.760
we don't have to go through, uh, that, that, that our bodies can understand that the process that

548
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:28.640
it is going through, that it is actually safe and it's not under threat, et cetera.

549
00:38:28.640 --> 00:38:35.520
Um, there are people, there are, um, I know of a lady who, uh, went through childbirth,

550
00:38:35.520 --> 00:38:41.360
her very, she only had one child. And so she had no precedent and she went through a natural birth

551
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:48.160
and she put herself under what they call hypnosis, um, which is not creepy and it's not scary. And

552
00:38:48.160 --> 00:38:53.280
it's not the kind of hypnosis where people have control over other people. It's not that

553
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:58.240
it's dropping oneself down into theta waves, which we've, I think we've talked about before

554
00:38:58.240 --> 00:39:04.960
on another, um, uh, community, uh, Q and a, she dropped herself down into theta waves and she

555
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:10.560
kept rejecting the, um, what do you call that? The, uh, the, the needle in the spine. What is it?

556
00:39:10.560 --> 00:39:16.960
Well, I don't remember, but you know what it is. Yes. Thank you. After all. Um, she, she kept

557
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.320
rejecting that and the nurse is like, no, truly you're going to want this. And she said, no,

558
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:25.120
I'm going to do this all naturally. And I'm going to put myself under hypnosis so that my body will

559
00:39:25.120 --> 00:39:31.360
completely relax. And, and, and it'll do what it's supposed to do without me resisting it,

560
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:37.040
which of course is the whole point of Lamaze, right? Is to get the body to relax and to stop

561
00:39:37.040 --> 00:39:43.680
resisting what's going on because the tenseness is resisting. Again, another indication of the

562
00:39:44.240 --> 00:39:50.560
picture of the fact that that resistance is the, is what's causing us so much pain and struggle

563
00:39:50.560 --> 00:39:56.160
in life. It's it's, it's, it's, um, you know, our body is resisting what's going on and we

564
00:39:56.160 --> 00:39:59.840
have to tell our body, no, no, no, give into it. It's, it's okay. It's, it's.

565
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:11.160
It's natural and started. So she put herself under hypnosis, meaning like she just dropped down into theta waves and kept telling her body what she wanted it to do. And that's the way she told herself.

566
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:22.760
But she told her body. I like this. I want this. This is how it's supposed to be better by and she actually just kind of had to continue to tell her body. She's not a Christian, by the way.

567
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:33.880
At least that I know the way she talks. She doesn't sound like a sound like a believer. I haven't like her say that, but I'm not aware that she is and that she just

568
00:40:35.520 --> 00:40:39.560
She just talked to her body and tell it. I like this. I'm giving you new instruction.

569
00:40:40.560 --> 00:40:48.960
There's no reason to be afraid. There's no reason to fear and this is what I want. I want this. What's going on and what is changing. I want this.

570
00:40:49.520 --> 00:40:57.040
And so she just kept doing it and she had a natural painless over so and she was a non believer.

571
00:40:57.560 --> 00:41:06.560
Who has never gone through childbirth before. She didn't know what to accept. So it is possible, but that was a believer doing what it says in Deuteronomy

572
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:17.000
And you know we're in Deuteronomy and he saw the itemize the MMI in the mobile all the even that they were not the chosen people.

573
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:30.960
They conquered the same Antichrist and the descendants of the Antichrist. So the Israelites that are too big and too scary and Jesus in God said I gave them the land because they believed that they could have it. They believe that they could conquer

574
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:37.200
So we see the same thing in our, in our world today that the non believers believe things that

575
00:41:38.200 --> 00:41:52.240
We believers don't. And so, yes, it is absolutely possible. And just like it's possible to be to claim healing, even after a doctor's diagnosis that we have state that someone has stage four cancer.

576
00:41:53.720 --> 00:42:02.080
It's all possible and we see that in constant in miracles. So yes, it absolutely is possible, but there's can be a process that like an overcoming

577
00:42:02.560 --> 00:42:05.200
And where, yeah.

578
00:42:07.200 --> 00:42:14.080
So that's the answer. But did I, did I give you enough of what you were you're asking about

579
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:17.280
The answer your question.

580
00:42:23.600 --> 00:42:24.600
Am I frozen.

581
00:42:26.520 --> 00:42:27.200
You're muted.

582
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:31.880
There we go. Can you hear me now.

583
00:42:32.520 --> 00:42:32.840
Yeah.

584
00:42:34.040 --> 00:42:48.760
Another question that answers my question that I had. I think I was still muted when I said that, but it answers my question. Another one that I had, though, is how you had said we frame of our world by what we believe basically God is

585
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:50.280
Yeah.

586
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:57.360
And I've been thinking about that, like, especially like with, you know, buying our farmhouse buying a house and

587
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:08.400
I was thinking a lot about the prosperity gospel. And the other day I was reading in the Bible in the Old Testament and that the title like sometimes there's like little titles above it.

588
00:43:09.160 --> 00:43:16.920
And it said that God promised prosperity. Once the children of Israel believe them or something along that line. And I was like,

589
00:43:18.120 --> 00:43:18.960
How much

590
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:24.400
How much do I limit God by

591
00:43:24.600 --> 00:43:35.440
It's kind of hard to explain, but basically say that I like I believe God that I have this huge dream of having, you know, acreage and a farm and all these things.

592
00:43:36.720 --> 00:43:45.120
Do I just go out and buy like a million dollar estate and believe God that he's just going to provide that and give us money for it.

593
00:43:45.120 --> 00:44:00.840
Like, where, where do you reconcile the like sense and the responsibility of like not signing your life away with something like that. Or do you just just God just bring it about. You know what I mean, like, it's kind of hard to explain what I'm trying to say, but

594
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:01.360
No, I

595
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:02.240
Yeah.

596
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:06.320
Sorry, did I

597
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:13.280
Oh, I was just thinking a lot like we're obviously trying to, you know, get out of debt. We're self employed and literally like

598
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:26.920
Our provision is simply from Lord like Josh. Josh's hours are so obscure, like he works less than he ever has. And our income is like we just don't really care. Like, we just have enough for what we need.

599
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:37.960
We don't have access, but we're never in line. And then I'm like, well, do we just like manifest finances into the world so that we can go buy a farmhouse and like have all these streams or

600
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:41.560
How do you, you know what I mean, like,

601
00:44:42.680 --> 00:44:46.000
It's kind of hard to explain, but I think you kind of know what I mean.

602
00:44:46.600 --> 00:44:47.880
Okay, so

603
00:44:48.040 --> 00:44:53.280
Oh, this is what I wanted to and this is how I want to live and all of that believing that

604
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:55.880
She started this

605
00:44:57.060 --> 00:44:57.920
A gem

606
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.120
that we are apart from the Lord, that we're separated,

607
00:45:00.200 --> 00:45:01.020
She started this

608
00:45:02.740 --> 00:45:03.260
So,

609
00:45:03.120 --> 00:45:04.880
that we're abandoned, that we're alienated,

610
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.720
that we have to do all this stuff for ourselves,

611
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:06.400
And

612
00:45:07.720 --> 00:45:11.600
but is choosing the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

613
00:45:09.520 --> 00:45:10.120
Oh,

614
00:45:11.600 --> 00:45:13.480
And so therefore, if we're gonna choose

615
00:45:13.300 --> 00:45:14.040
And

616
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.600
that we're in it on our own,

617
00:45:15.600 --> 00:45:18.760
well, then we have to follow this list of protocols

618
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:21.280
and all of these formulas and all of these strategies

619
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.280
in order to be able to get that to ourselves.

620
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:26.360
So that's why the Lord gave it to the Israelites.

621
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:27.200
The Israelites said,

622
00:45:27.200 --> 00:45:29.560
tell us what we need to do and we'll do it.

623
00:45:29.560 --> 00:45:31.920
And so it was like, okay, well, follow all these lists.

624
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:33.520
If all this list, you can do it.

625
00:45:33.520 --> 00:45:36.000
The other way, so it's a lot harder to do that.

626
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:37.440
Yes, it absolutely is possible.

627
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.080
It is absolutely possible to take one's life

628
00:45:40.080 --> 00:45:42.920
into one's own hands and determine what one wants

629
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:43.760
and to do it.

630
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:47.640
Or there is choosing to operate from the tree of life,

631
00:45:47.640 --> 00:45:50.600
which is operating out of relationship with the Lord.

632
00:45:50.600 --> 00:45:53.280
And when we operate out of relationship with the Lord,

633
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.200
our father provides the result,

634
00:45:55.200 --> 00:45:57.480
our father provides the increase,

635
00:45:57.560 --> 00:46:01.600
and we just govern what it is that he gives us.

636
00:46:01.600 --> 00:46:04.360
Then in anticipation, lack of a better phrase,

637
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:06.760
in anticipation of what he could give us

638
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:09.120
and what it is that we can step into,

639
00:46:10.160 --> 00:46:14.960
we can co-labor with him to come up

640
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:18.280
to make decisions together.

641
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:20.320
So that's where I talk about the fact

642
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:24.520
that we shift into rest so that we're no longer in fear

643
00:46:24.520 --> 00:46:26.800
and that we shifted into abiding in the Lord.

644
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:28.640
And now that we're in rest,

645
00:46:28.640 --> 00:46:30.240
now that we're no longer afraid,

646
00:46:30.240 --> 00:46:32.080
now that we're no longer believing

647
00:46:32.080 --> 00:46:35.880
that we're abandoned, alone,

648
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.000
and having to provide for and protect ourselves,

649
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:40.320
we can more easily hear the father's heart.

650
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:45.320
We can more readily present our spirit's desires

651
00:46:45.680 --> 00:46:50.680
and our healthy heart's desires to the Lord,

652
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:53.840
bring those to the table.

653
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:56.280
And then I'll ask the Lord what his heart is

654
00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:58.120
that he'd like to bring to the table,

655
00:46:58.120 --> 00:47:02.120
and then see what the two of you want to do together,

656
00:47:02.120 --> 00:47:04.240
which sometimes God will be like,

657
00:47:04.240 --> 00:47:07.320
okay, well, let's do, you're presenting what you'd like.

658
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.200
Sure, let's do that.

659
00:47:09.200 --> 00:47:11.480
Or he might say, okay, let's do that,

660
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:14.080
but understand you can't do that yet

661
00:47:14.080 --> 00:47:18.160
because you will hurt yourself.

662
00:47:18.160 --> 00:47:20.960
You know, if you ask for a million dollars right now,

663
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.480
but you struggle with gambling,

664
00:47:23.520 --> 00:47:26.560
well, then, you know, and this is a very extreme example

665
00:47:26.560 --> 00:47:28.000
because I'm trying to make a point,

666
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:29.320
you struggle with gambling,

667
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:32.080
well, then I'll give you the million dollars

668
00:47:32.080 --> 00:47:33.680
just like you asked for,

669
00:47:33.680 --> 00:47:37.680
but I have to teach you how to be able to govern that

670
00:47:37.680 --> 00:47:39.640
before I want to give it to you

671
00:47:39.640 --> 00:47:41.960
because otherwise the degree

672
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:44.360
to which you're destroying yourself now

673
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:48.440
will be heightened.

674
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:51.600
You will destroy yourself that much more with a million.

675
00:47:51.600 --> 00:47:54.280
If you're destroying yourself with $50 a week,

676
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:56.560
how much more will you destroy yourself

677
00:47:56.560 --> 00:47:58.560
and destroy others with a million?

678
00:47:58.560 --> 00:48:00.800
So he's like, okay, you've asked for that,

679
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.200
and if that is the desire, if this is what you want to do,

680
00:48:03.200 --> 00:48:05.680
okay, I'll govern, I'll father you

681
00:48:05.680 --> 00:48:08.400
into how to govern that appropriately

682
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:10.120
before you actually have it,

683
00:48:10.120 --> 00:48:11.600
before you actually see it in your life.

684
00:48:11.600 --> 00:48:12.560
So that's one of the reasons

685
00:48:12.560 --> 00:48:14.560
why sometimes we might see a time delay.

686
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:16.920
And there are other things, you know,

687
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:18.640
that in the father's heart, the father's like,

688
00:48:18.640 --> 00:48:21.120
yeah, but what it is you think that you want,

689
00:48:21.120 --> 00:48:24.480
what you think will actually give you your heart's desire,

690
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:25.920
I know your heart's desire,

691
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:27.760
and that thing won't give it to you.

692
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:29.440
So no, we're not gonna manifest that

693
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:31.520
because you're asking me truly

694
00:48:31.520 --> 00:48:33.760
to give you your heart's desire,

695
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:35.800
and I can tell you that that's not it.

696
00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:38.280
So I'm gonna, so trust me

697
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:41.240
that I want us to do this other thing instead,

698
00:48:41.240 --> 00:48:43.240
but I want you to do it with me.

699
00:48:43.240 --> 00:48:44.600
Please don't abandon me

700
00:48:44.600 --> 00:48:46.840
to follow your own path and do what you want.

701
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:48.960
Please step into this with me, trust me,

702
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:52.000
and let's do this other thing that I've,

703
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.840
that I know is actually something

704
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:58.440
that you're going to love doing with me,

705
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:01.440
and that you're gonna love the end result of.

706
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:06.440
So as far as like how big to claim things,

707
00:49:07.160 --> 00:49:10.480
like it's in that whole prosperity gospel, et cetera,

708
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:12.640
I've always heard about the prosperity gospel.

709
00:49:12.640 --> 00:49:15.240
I'm not 100% sure about what it is.

710
00:49:15.240 --> 00:49:17.000
I think that it's basically the idea

711
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.400
that God wants everyone to be rich,

712
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:20.240
and that you can,

713
00:49:20.240 --> 00:49:22.920
and that if God wants everybody to be rich,

714
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:24.360
everybody can claim it.

715
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:25.960
But I think maybe that's it.

716
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:30.360
So we're gonna go with that as the prosperity gospel.

717
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:35.360
And the thing is that we've misunderstood

718
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:42.280
what wealth and poverty actually look like,

719
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:44.400
and we believe that it is attributed

720
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:45.960
to actual material things

721
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:47.440
and ways that things manifest.

722
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:50.280
It's a very worldly perspective.

723
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:53.600
And God, the way the spirit moves

724
00:49:53.600 --> 00:49:56.760
is not according to what it is that we actually see

725
00:49:56.760 --> 00:50:00.080
and how it actually manifests in physical possession.

726
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:07.680
and actual titles and positions of power and fame and whatever that we have on the earth.

727
00:50:07.680 --> 00:50:18.680
God's like, no, no, no, that's not actual. That's, how do I word it? That does not always

728
00:50:18.680 --> 00:50:27.540
accurately reflect value and richness and riches from a spiritual perspective. And we

729
00:50:27.540 --> 00:50:33.020
are spirit. So that's where we want, it's the things that are eternal, that are out

730
00:50:33.020 --> 00:50:38.500
of the tree of life, that have life bread in them, that we want to be part of. Not things

731
00:50:38.500 --> 00:50:44.420
that look good and they look comfortable and it looks like it would give us security, money,

732
00:50:44.420 --> 00:50:55.580
power, fame, a house, whatever. He says, you know, that those things are not accurate reflections

733
00:50:55.580 --> 00:51:01.660
of your true safety and your true provision and your true, whatever. I know that the Lord

734
00:51:01.660 --> 00:51:06.420
is, I know that I'm not doing everything perfect, but that in many ways, and I got this from

735
00:51:06.420 --> 00:51:11.140
him this morning, which is what I was talking to, answering Natalie about, I was asking

736
00:51:11.140 --> 00:51:15.540
Gloria, I don't know, am I doing the right things here in certain areas of my life? Am

737
00:51:15.540 --> 00:51:19.940
I not? Am I, should I be doing something else instead? And I was so worried that something

738
00:51:19.940 --> 00:51:25.260
was wrong somewhere. And God said, no, you're just where you're supposed to be and you're

739
00:51:25.260 --> 00:51:31.020
doing it the way you're supposed to do it. I'm like, okay, but I don't have a house.

740
00:51:31.020 --> 00:51:37.860
I'm living with other people. I'm living on somebody else's mercy and grace, you know,

741
00:51:37.860 --> 00:51:43.700
and there, and, but God is pleased with me. So it doesn't, but possessions don't mean

742
00:51:43.700 --> 00:51:48.340
anything by the worldly standards. People look at me and say that I don't, I don't have

743
00:51:48.340 --> 00:51:53.340
much and that God apparently isn't pleased with me because they're looking at it from

744
00:51:53.340 --> 00:51:58.220
a worldly perspective. So the whole prosperity gospel is looking at things according to the

745
00:51:58.220 --> 00:52:05.060
tree of knowledge of good and evil and comparing God against that. Okay. Well, hopefully that,

746
00:52:05.060 --> 00:52:08.860
hopefully that made sense. But there was something else I wanted to say, because I felt that

747
00:52:08.860 --> 00:52:15.460
it was going to answer a bit of your question related to the, the millions, like how to,

748
00:52:15.460 --> 00:52:21.860
to make sure that we don't outclaim God. And wealth is being content with him, with him,

749
00:52:21.860 --> 00:52:25.220
knowing he has everything that we need. Very nice. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah,

750
00:52:25.220 --> 00:52:32.740
that's a very nice way to say that. So for, yeah. So understanding how to not outclaim God,

751
00:52:32.740 --> 00:52:41.620
that is something that we have to learn how to do. And I really understand. And it's something

752
00:52:41.620 --> 00:52:47.300
that he fathers us into because there does get to be a point at which he,

753
00:52:49.460 --> 00:52:56.500
as we mature in our relationship with him, where we can actually claim that God will do something

754
00:52:57.460 --> 00:53:04.820
that he has not said he will do. And we claim that he'll do it. And he will follow through

755
00:53:04.820 --> 00:53:09.940
because we said it, we said that he would do it. And he's like, okay, I'll back you up on that.

756
00:53:10.740 --> 00:53:14.820
I didn't tell you I was going to do that, but you said I was going to do that. So I'll back you up

757
00:53:14.820 --> 00:53:20.980
on it. But he, he doesn't do that with people that are operating, that are talking about,

758
00:53:20.980 --> 00:53:25.380
that are claiming that from the tree of knowledge of an evil, where they decided they want certain

759
00:53:25.380 --> 00:53:31.620
things. And they're claiming that God's going to, God is going to be a genie to give them the

760
00:53:31.620 --> 00:53:36.340
things that they think that they have to have in order to provide for and protect themselves

761
00:53:36.340 --> 00:53:42.660
because they're abandoned by God. God won't do that. But when someone's abiding in the father's

762
00:53:42.660 --> 00:53:47.540
heart and they sense the father's heart, they sense his love for other people, they sense

763
00:53:47.540 --> 00:53:52.660
this is what my father would do in this situation. And I know that because I'm abiding in rest and I'm

764
00:53:52.660 --> 00:53:57.780
sensing the spirit. And therefore I know he would do this type of thing from that kind of a place,

765
00:53:57.780 --> 00:54:03.620
which we have to be fathered into, into that type of spiritual maturity, then he will come through

766
00:54:03.620 --> 00:54:10.740
like that. And there are areas in which I, I, I've like dipped my toe in that and he has followed

767
00:54:10.740 --> 00:54:16.180
through that I've claimed, God, you are this good. And this is the kind of thing that you would do,

768
00:54:16.180 --> 00:54:21.540
that I had to do it from a place of rest. And when I did it, he came through and he backed me up when

769
00:54:21.540 --> 00:54:28.580
I said it. Now there, it wasn't like in like a house or, or whatever, but he's, he's teaching me

770
00:54:28.580 --> 00:54:35.140
how to, how to know who he is and what his character is and what it is that I can claim

771
00:54:35.700 --> 00:54:44.100
about who he is and how he will come through before he even has to say it, that, that he'll do it.

772
00:54:45.540 --> 00:54:52.500
Does that make sense? So, and I don't mean to make your, the answer to your question complicated,

773
00:54:52.500 --> 00:54:59.780
but I did want to be very honest about it, about the fact that, you know, generally about comparing

774
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:07.120
the superficial way to view it, versus like, like, well, I want a million dollars and can I just

775
00:55:07.120 --> 00:55:15.440
claim a house and well, no. However, when we when we mature to a particular point in the Lord,

776
00:55:16.160 --> 00:55:20.960
and we know his Father's heart, and we speak from the Father's heart from that place,

777
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:29.200
he does get to a point where he will back up things that we claim he will do,

778
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:35.280
before he's even said he's going to do it. So, but that comes out of relationship,

779
00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:38.880
not out of, well, I'm going to treat God like a genie and I'm going to claim that he's going to

780
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:42.960
do these things. Does that make sense? I wanted to be honest that there is such a thing,

781
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:47.040
but it's out of relationship, not out of a feeling of isolation and abandonment.

782
00:55:47.040 --> 00:55:53.360
Yeah, that totally makes sense. And then, as I've been thinking about this and kind of

783
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:57.760
processing everything, it just seemed like Lord kept telling me like, it doesn't, it's not a,

784
00:55:58.640 --> 00:56:02.400
it's not about manifesting certain things into the earth, it's just about relationship.

785
00:56:03.040 --> 00:56:07.120
And it seems like every every corner that I come around to in different stages of life,

786
00:56:07.680 --> 00:56:14.000
it's always that it's always that reminder that it's not like the things that I want and the

787
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:17.280
things that I desire and the things I'm going through are legitimate and they're real and they

788
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:25.520
concern the Lord, but it always comes back to relationship. Somehow it just, it always circles

789
00:56:25.520 --> 00:56:30.640
back to relationship with the Lord. And I just think it's really special because that's what,

790
00:56:30.640 --> 00:56:35.840
that's what I felt like I lacked for so many years. And so it's just, you know, it's just

791
00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:40.400
around every turn. It's like, no, it's just about a relationship. And that totally answers my

792
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:47.440
question because it reminded me of that one time when I think I had posted in the group about how

793
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:51.280
the one day I just really felt like the Lord wanted to really bless us financially with a

794
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:54.800
check from one of our clients. And I was just like, yeah, I know the Lord's going to do it.

795
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:59.760
And I just declared that he's going to send us a check. And then we got the check and it was like

796
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:04.960
totally, totally out of the blue. And it wasn't, it just happened. Like it wasn't,

797
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:09.920
it wasn't any big deal, but it was just that there was not a shadow of a doubt in my mind

798
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:16.400
that I knew that God was going to not come through that way. But I mean, that hasn't

799
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:21.920
happened very often, but I know what you were, I know what you meant, but it came from that

800
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:28.000
relationship, but it came from, from the relationship, from drawing in the relationship

801
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:33.120
with the Lord. But I just think it's really fascinating how around every bend, it's just

802
00:57:33.120 --> 00:57:36.720
the Lord constantly reminding me that it's just always comes back to relationship with him.

803
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:42.480
Yeah. And that, that's the whole point. And that's why I talk, you know, about the dreams

804
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:48.400
and the promises and whatever the whole point is. Him saying, Hey, look, you can believe that I'm

805
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:55.680
this big and I'm giving you, I'm giving you an offer. Um, I'm, I'm inviting you to have faith

806
00:57:56.240 --> 00:58:01.760
in a promise that I'm giving you. And that promise is the fact that I am this good,

807
00:58:02.560 --> 00:58:07.360
not that this thing's going to happen, you know, that I am this good and that I am this big and

808
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:15.040
that I am this love and I will do and whatever it's me. I am the promise. And, um, uh, and that's

809
00:58:15.040 --> 00:58:18.960
why I talk about that because the whole point of it is the relationship and just like in,

810
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:22.480
in, in the journey, you know, when we talk, we talked the other day, I think it was like

811
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:29.440
four weeks ago on a community Q and a, we were talking about, um, uh, uh, destinies,

812
00:58:29.520 --> 00:58:34.400
like all my work. What if I miss my destiny? What if I miss my calling and whatever? And,

813
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:40.880
and God is, is just saying, um, you know, no, the point that your destiny is to mature in

814
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:45.600
relationship is to have that intimacy with the Lord. It's not to reach a particular point that

815
00:58:45.600 --> 00:58:53.360
he said, Oh, well, you know, I want you to be, um, I want you to be a missionary to China and

816
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:59.120
that is your destiny. And, um, so you've got to do everything right in order to fulfill your

817
00:58:59.120 --> 00:59:04.640
destiny, because I'm calling you to bring 500 souls to Christ. And I'm like, Oh my word. What

818
00:59:04.640 --> 00:59:10.400
if I miss it? What if I miss my destiny? What if I miss my calling? No, our destiny and our calling

819
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:18.160
is the intimacy of relationship with him. And we, we will, um, and then, um, uh, it will,

820
00:59:19.120 --> 00:59:25.920
we can choose to what degree on that journey we're, we're learning to what degree that we're

821
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:31.280
choosing to believe God, that God is as big as he says. Yes. That's what all those promises are.

822
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:35.600
They're, they're, they're, um, they're drawing us further and further down the road in our,

823
00:59:35.600 --> 00:59:41.520
in our, in the journey of, um, believing that God is as big as he says that he is. And so he gives

824
00:59:41.520 --> 00:59:46.720
bigger promises and more promises and air promises in different areas, because it's his character

825
00:59:46.720 --> 00:59:51.600
that he's promising in order to foster that relationship, the intimacy, because it's from

826
00:59:51.600 --> 00:59:57.920
intimacy that we are given responsibility to govern where God says that we're going to govern.

827
00:59:57.920 --> 00:59:59.680
Like, you know, according to how

828
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:05.440
we handle smaller responsibilities is going to determine, and this is in the parable of

829
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:12.320
the talents, where he says, you know, those who are given, or handle responsibilities well,

830
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:16.320
you know, will be given five cities, but those who handle responsibility really well,

831
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:23.280
they're going to be given 10 cities in the next life, you know. And so the intimacy with the Lord

832
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:30.720
gives us responsibility. And it gives us, you know, obviously in the spirit and maturity,

833
01:00:30.720 --> 01:00:37.200
and it's from, it's from oneness and intimacy, that greater responsibility to govern things

834
01:00:37.200 --> 01:00:45.360
comes from governing more lives, governing lives that have a heavy weight on them, etc.

835
01:00:46.560 --> 01:00:52.080
Like, for instance, if a woman I'm just using this as an example, if a woman carries something

836
01:00:52.080 --> 01:01:01.040
of the Lord, the man that the Lord wants to, wants to unite her with, has to be able, he is

837
01:01:01.040 --> 01:01:08.320
called by the Lord and prepared by the Lord to carry the responsibility of providing for and

838
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:14.400
protecting and covering her that is carrying something of the Lord, kind of like a man,

839
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:23.520
you know, covering like Joseph was sent by the Lord to cover and provide and to cover Mary,

840
01:01:23.520 --> 01:01:28.960
and because Mary was carrying something of the Lord, she was she was bearing a child. And,

841
01:01:30.080 --> 01:01:38.080
and so anyway, that's just a physical example of ways that, that God raises us in order to

842
01:01:39.040 --> 01:01:46.800
be in intimacy and oneness with him to be able to bear the responsibility of

843
01:01:48.240 --> 01:01:55.200
something in your, like 10 cities or a marriage or whatever. I don't know if I just added in

844
01:01:55.200 --> 01:01:58.640
another little thing that made that sound complicated, but I was just trying to give

845
01:01:58.640 --> 01:02:11.360
another example. Does anyone have anything else? An hour goes by fast.

846
01:02:19.520 --> 01:02:20.240
All right.

847
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:28.000
Oh, Amy, did you have something? No, you know, I was just gonna say I'm good. Thanks.

848
01:02:29.040 --> 01:02:31.440
I hope you get to feeling better. Yeah.

849
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:35.520
Yeah, I'm doing good. Thank you.

850
01:02:37.040 --> 01:02:42.720
It's good to get to see everybody. I'll see y'all. And I guess, I guess next week,

851
01:02:42.720 --> 01:02:46.560
I do not know where I'm going to be next week. I don't know if I'm going to be here or in

852
01:02:46.560 --> 01:02:53.280
Louisiana. It's a moving target. I was supposed to already be where was I supposed to be at?

853
01:02:53.600 --> 01:02:58.080
I was supposed to go to Houston tomorrow. Plans changed again, because of this whole,

854
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:02.960
you know, that which shall not be named. It keeps changing my plans.

855
01:03:04.640 --> 01:03:09.680
I'll eventually, I'll eventually be doing one of these from either Louisiana or Arkansas.

856
01:03:09.680 --> 01:03:14.720
So anyway, but it's good to get to know y'all. Y'all let me know if you need something.

857
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:19.280
Huh? I did have, I did want to ask real quick, if you ever posted the

858
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:27.200
video from last week's group session? No, not yet. So I'm gonna, I'm trying to get through them.

859
01:03:27.200 --> 01:03:33.040
So I already had two that I'm, I have one that I published right before we got on. And now,

860
01:03:33.040 --> 01:03:38.000
and I have another one that I'm was, I'm just about to publish right after we get on this call.

861
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:42.480
And then I have like, and then the one you're talking about is two more after that. So I'm

862
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:50.800
trying to get to them as fast as possible, night or hopefully tomorrow. Okay, I'm really behind.

863
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:56.720
I'm like, at least not behind. But I'm trying to catch up. Okay, I just want to make sure I didn't

864
01:03:56.720 --> 01:04:03.600
miss it. I kept looking for it. And all right. Yeah, no, sorry about that. I know y'all.

865
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:11.120
It's one of those things you just you just rest and grace for yourself and not think I should

866
01:04:11.120 --> 01:04:15.600
and I shouldn't. And I should have by now. And I just let it all go.

867
01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:22.480
Anyway, so well, I love all of y'all. And y'all let me know if you need something.

868
01:04:23.520 --> 01:04:26.160
All right. Thank you. Have fun on your traveling. Be safe.

869
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:31.680
Bye.