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Yeah, I have the I have it set up so that every time someone joins that it automatically mutes them, because we, we were having issues with there being a lot of feedback.

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So, and then people couldn't hear what me or someone else was saying. But in other words, whoever the, the, the, the talk or the speaker was can hear they're saying, So how have you been good. How have you been doing good. I'm sorry I'm trying to like adjust this thing here.

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Okay.

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Set up. I'm at my parents house.

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And, but I'm the only one here.

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They are my parents and my grandma they're all like doing various things there. I think my grandmother's visiting her sister, I say I think I know because I took her there.

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And then my parents are on vacation. And so, I am here until I head out for Houston next on Saturday, because, and I was going to be there earlier than Saturday but with with a see what is it Laura and Marco had other plans.

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You know the hurricanes Laura and Marco.

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Hitting the area. So, how is that there.

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Um, I don't know I haven't talked to my friend. Yesterday she. We were Marco polling and she was showing me that, that she was showing me the bands in the sky that hey she sent me the bands in the sky that were the not the front but that were like the edge

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of it coming through that the hurricane hopefully is not going to hit Houston, but the, but the you know the outlying rain.

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I could, I could hit so well it will hit so we're just, you know, obviously trusting for the anyway protection for everyone.

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So I thought well I'll go on Saturday and I think that it was supposed to be sunny the last time that we checked but I think that now there might be some rain.

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But then I'm going to go down the I'm going to stay with her for a bit.

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I'm not really sure how I'm going to do this. I think I might go straight to Missouri.

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And from there. So,

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cool.

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I have a conference up there. What's that conference for that conference is for about changing the body, or not changing the body but manifesting who it is that we are in spirit into the body.

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So that's what that is.

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Teach me. Teach me what you learn.

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I'm not sure. But I was, I think that that's right, that that's that that's how it's going to be. And anyway, so

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Up in the air. What

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Who's leading it.

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I'm Chris black could be and Kirby delinear all and possibly Nancy Cohen.

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Oh, really, is it not a five dp is it

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No, no, no, no, that was in sets. That was

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In Florida, and that's off Kirby can't get in. I can't get in the country.

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So you can't fly in from Sri Lanka with them with everything going on. They had made plans in case he could, but

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Anyway, so

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So you'll be up there with Chris

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Yeah. Awesome. Tell him I said hi.

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Okay, I will.

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Yeah. Very cool.

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Yeah. Anyway, hey, Steph.

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Hey, are you in your apartment made it

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And share now.

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But I have service. So we're good. I'm in the house.

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Oh, wow. Good. Yeah.

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Nice change.

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A nice change. Why, where did you say you were you broke up

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Oh, it's just a nice change to have service. I'm just across the room. I took the answer to my own question.

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Okay, well, I get the camo background. Now,

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Yeah, I was gonna say maybe by that maybe you'll get more and

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More better reception by the window.

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No, I hope so. We'll see.

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Okay, okay. Okay.

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And well, while we wait just maybe a couple more minutes for anybody to get on house. How's everybody doing

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Does everyone have and does anyone have an update of anything appreciated your testimony, Amy. That was exciting.

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Even if it was icky to have to hear

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Totally unnatural. I was like, I was like, this is not normal. Something is not right here.

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Right, that's right.

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It was the worst.

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Something is not right here.

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Right, that's right.

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It was the weirdest thing ever. And I was like, nope.

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So I'm still astonished like that they just disappeared. So

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Now we're good. Good. So that's the thing we it just, it just, we shouldn't be astonished that the way that that is the way that we declare that things are now.

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Yes, but it's okay to be astonished

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Obviously, and I was going to say something about. Oh yeah. So, okay. So just another icky story I had to

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I was staying at at a friend's house and they and a I was down on the floor. I was, it would have been like not that far from the not that far from the door.

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And the I look over and and it was like 1030 at night. And I'm not kidding you. I the door, but I mean the the door between my room in the hallway. A tarantula Oh, under the door fun, fun in a tarantula in real life, let alone to enter this sanctuary of my bedroom.

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Not happy. I, I, I did what I typically do. I screamed with my mouth closed. My mom and I do that. We don't think about it. We just do it. We just go

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Anyway, so I had this rubber made being that was a rubber made tub that was out from under the bed and that I pulled things out of. And so I stood stop it.

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Stop it. So I, I stood in it so that the tarantula couldn't like crawl on my feet and I started praying. I'm telling you what I started praying because snakes don't bother me.

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But to let us do I just like, ah, so I told Lord. It's like, okay, Lord, you know, I'm a very brave person and I grew up in in West Texas with all kinds of critters.

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But tarantulas just, that's another thing I've never saw a tarantula in West Texas.

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We have snakes and stuff like that. I can handle snakes. There's no trenches. So anyway, it's entering my bedroom and I'm like, Lord, I know that this is spiritual and I will conquer it. So I

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Started praying. I was like, Lord. So, so the tarantula had crawled up under Doss's blanket. So Doss's blanket was up out. She was in her basket and it was up out of the basket kind of on the ground. So it had crawled up under the under the part that was on the ground.

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So I just started praying and asking for courage. Okay, Lord, I'm just, I'm really, really, you know,

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really worried and I know I shouldn't be worried, but I am. This is like this life creature and I know you created him. I don't know why you created him.

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And so I'm like, Lord, this thing must die.

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It entered, it crossed the threshold and it must die.

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So I finally worked up enough courage to, and it took a while, but I finally worked

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up enough courage to grab the blanket and kind of shake it a little bit to encourage

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the tarantula to go out.

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So eventually, eventually it crawled out.

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And so I started praying again, I'm like, okay, Lord, I got to kill this thing.

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And I'm just asking you to help me kill it on the first whack, none of this chasing it

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around the bedroom, kill it on the first whack.

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So I grabbed this shoe, flip-flop, and I prepared to do battle.

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And so I whack, whack, whack, whack, whack.

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And sure enough, it started, you know, like a typical, like a typical spider started closing

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in on itself cause it died and it was like, Oh, anyway.

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But then I thought, now I have to pick it up.

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I have to touch it.

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Lord, what am I going to do?

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So I was like, I don't care if it's underneath a paper towel or a wad of toilet paper.

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I'm going to have to touch it.

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So, hey, Renee.

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So I'm telling the story about how I killed the tarantula that I found in my bedroom.

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Horrible, horrible story.

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So I, except there's victory in the end.

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So anyway, I killed it.

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And then I hear my friend's teenage son getting something out of the kitchen,

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out of the refrigerator at 1030 at night.

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I'm so excited.

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I'm like, oh my word, he can be my hero.

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So I go out there and ask him, will you, I just killed a tarantula in my room,

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which freaked him out.

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You know, I just killed a tarantula in my room.

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He's like, what?

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There's one in the house?

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And I said, yes, I killed it.

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And I'm asking, will you please be my hero and come pick it up for me?

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So it's really funny how he opened it.

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He like, he like grabs the door at like arm's length, you know,

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and keeping his like, his legs and his body as far from the door as possible.

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I'm like, I killed it already.

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It's dead.

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But he didn't trust me.

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And we see he opened it, finally found it on the ground, truly dead.

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And he's like, oh, yeah, it's no big deal.

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So he's like, just give me, you know, paper towels.

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So I got some paper towels and gave it to him.

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So he, then he had, once he saw it was dead, he had no problem picking it up.

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But it was the whole, are you sure that it's dead, Ashley?

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So anyway, I was, I was excited because I thought I have conquered one of my fears.

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I saw a tarantula and I killed it.

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That's pretty amazing.

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That's my icky story from recently.

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I'm surprised you've lived in Texas all these years and never seen one,

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especially in Berry Hollow.

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I know.

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I haven't.

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I haven't.

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I've had him in a house we used to live in.

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Really?

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I had Joey.

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I had Joey.

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I had one that was so big that he took a broom and it was like,

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it was like bludgeoning a small animal.

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It's, it's like, I just, they've got mass to them.

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They're not a daddy long leg.

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They've got mass to them.

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And they're scary and they're, Ooh.

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And they're harmless, but they're just creepy.

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It's like rats, field mice.

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Tarantulas.

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And I thought, Oh, and cockroaches.

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Yeah.

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Except those four.

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I'm with you.

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Don't bother me.

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You know, tarantulas.

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Those are small animals.

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You don't have to tell me.

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I'll have to tell you the story about the mouse in my car sometime.

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Oh, that's a, that's a crazy story too.

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I used to work for a locksmith company.

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One of the, one of the things that I did as a, um,

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one of my clients, um, as a turnaround business consultant and,

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one of their really big things was they helped people get, um, my, uh,

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Oh, sorry. No, no, no, no. It wasn't a locksmith company.

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It was an animal control company.

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I worked, uh, that again, turnaround consulting client.

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And, uh, that one of the really, really big things,

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one of their highest, uh, the highest.

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Uh, what is it called? Um,

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That one of the things that people most put into the Google search

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engine.

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Was how to get a mouse out of a car.

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Yeah. And this one, this was, I was in my car every day for work.

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I like drove all the time. I car never sat still. So why a mouse?

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to live in my car, I don't know. But I thought there was a mouse in my car, this is a couple

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years ago. And then I was one day I was going to see a client in their home and I would

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spend like three or four hours in their home. And so I had a cup of coffee, you know, with

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the plastic lid. And I was drinking it and I left it in my car and I go in and I run

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the appointment. I was there for about three hours. I come back out and open the door to

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my car and the plastic lid to my coffee cup is nibbled all the way around. And I went,

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oh my gosh, it's in here now. Because I thought, well, maybe like at night, it gets in. And

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I was like, and I had to get in my car. Because I was like, you want to go in the house, bother

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the people like what can they do? Anyway, so I'm driving. I'm like, Oh, God, oh, God,

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I got to get this out of my car. And then I'm driving along and all of a sudden he peeked

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up out of the passenger seat and looks at me like, hey, hey, pal. I'm like, I'm in this

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parking lot and I jump out. I go in CVS looking for mousetraps. It's a long story. I didn't

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catch it until like the next day. Oh, it was it was pretty interesting. Yes, isn't it funny?

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We women in our world, it's like, ah, anyway, I know. I know that there's that they always

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say, oh, they're not hard. They're just harmless. And like, they're just, I don't know. They're

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just gross. It's just gross. He was a cute little mouse. He was he was not even big.

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Yeah, yeah. And then like, if it was a pet mouse, pet mouse, don't bother me. But like

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where they're like, field mice where they're gross. Anyway, in your house. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah. They're not supposed to be in the house and they're in the house. Yeah, they're supposed

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to be in the house, you know, because your pet that's fine. But anyway, so did anyone

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have anything that the Lord had been talking to them about recently? Or anything that they'd?

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I don't know any breakthroughs that they've had. And I was talking to someone today about

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something that I thought that I can share if someone doesn't have something to start

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have a question or something to start us out with. So

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I asked this, I was watching the I think it's video number seven,

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tree of knowledge. And I asked this on the thing, but since I have you,

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um, and you guys have made maybe I've already talked about this. So if I need to just like,

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there's a video I can reference or whatever, you can totally tell me that. But um, as you know,

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I've started working again. And this week is like insane. I way overcommitted myself.

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it's just crazy. So um, I was listening to it this morning. And you were talking about like how

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the stress comes in when we go into a situation where we like attach shoulds to it. And so like,

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I should be, you know, able to stop working by 7pm. Or, you know, like, I should should should.

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Um, which makes so much like that makes a lot of sense to me. But I guess my question was,

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how do you handle deadlines from a place of rest, when it like legitimately looks like,

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oh, I just don't have enough hours. And the way I put it was kind of like the only way I've known,

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historically, to motivate myself and sort of get it done is you just like do impossible,

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crazy things, but it's all from a place of pressure. Um, so like in the last week,

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because I've literally been working like 10 hour days since Sunday. So I've kind of felt this like,

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a teeter totter, like I can feel the moments where I'm like, and it's like, I can sort of

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like take a deep breath and like, chill out, but I still don't know how I'm gonna get it all done.

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And so yeah, anyway, that's my question. Yeah, no, that makes complete sense.

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So the thing is that it doesn't matter how, how many hours a day that we work,

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we can work 20, if we wanted to, and by work, I'm like doing things, it doesn't matter the amount,

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number of hours that we that we work doesn't matter what it is that we, what's important is

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that we do everything from rest, because the reason that we had to create boundaries for ourselves

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before.

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is that if things were out of strife, and we were appealing to the laws of like the soul or the body,

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there are limitations. So in the spirit, there are no limitations, even time is not a limitation.

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So if we are choosing to operate according to the principles of the soul or the body,

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well, then we have to we have to put limits on ourselves. And that's where again, where those

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boundaries come in place. Okay, well, you don't want to work too hard, because then you're,

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you know, scientifically, you know, and experientially, we've discovered that if you

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work past x number of hours, well, then your body reacts like this, and then you eventually get

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burnout and etc, etc. But that's all from a place of strife. So operating in rest does not mean a

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lack of boundaries, by the way. And boundaries is a word I really don't like to use because again,

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there's, because of our experience, there's we associate it with strife, we associate it with,

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look, I, you know, I don't let you do this to me, because when sometimes we should let what we,

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we don't need to be so afraid of other people. Because, you know, talking about like, for

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instance, that boundaries book, I don't know if you've ever read the boundaries book by Henry

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MacLeod. So very, very good book. There are some certain things in it that over time, I've come

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to disagree with him on. And that's strictly because it's not that what he says is wrong.

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It's just that I can't, I need to use those, those general ideas from a place of rest, as opposed to

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a place that is a place of strife. So that there are certain things where God talks about the fact

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that, hey, look, if somebody asks you for your, for your cloak, you say, hey, I'll give you two.

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Well, that doesn't sound right, according to the boundaries book, you know, things like that.

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So in other words, it's just kind of, it's important that we understand that in anyway,

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that that aside, it's important that we understand that when we operate in rest,

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it doesn't mean that there's no boundaries. It's, it's just that we we operate in rest,

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and then we do whatever and then we function. In other words, we choose to to operate in whatever

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activities that we want to, etc. Based on who it is that we are a sense of God based on what

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it is that we're sensing in the Father's heart. And, and, and he teaches us how to exert

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our will as sons of God, I choose to do this, I don't choose to do that.

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Now, again, he'll govern us into that. So it's not like we can just expect that.

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Like, like, think, for instance, we are, we're currently being tutored by tutors and governors,

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the Lord said, you know, into into maturity, but we're being tutored by tutors and governors,

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meaning like, you know, spiritual tutors and governors, that we're supposed to be kings over.

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And yet, and yet, so even though we're Lord over them, we still are being taught by them.

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So my point is that we we need to understand that just because we are kings, doesn't mean that we

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always know how doesn't mean that we're just born automatically knowing and being mature enough to,

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to govern creation, govern, including our own lives, you know, our own souls or whatever.

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And from a kingly perspective, where we're doing it, kindly taking care of creation and not abusing

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it, not abusing ourselves, abusing other people, etc. So we have to be governed into that. So my,

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my, my point is, I'm just trying to give you context for it, so that you can then, you can

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then allow the Lord realize what's going on, and then allow the Lord to father you into it

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in specific situations, because I can't speak to specific situations, because there is no,

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there are no rules and laws, we're not trading an old religion for a new one. That's not what

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being sons is about. We're not we're not creating a new religion now, where well, this is how we

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used to do it. And so now we're doing these different things. We're not doing different

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things. We're not there's no, there's not rules. And there's, there's no formulas. There's Jesus,

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we're in Jesus. And so what who is Jesus, and then we learn to become that. And we,

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and we learn to operate like that. It's no longer things of a what would Jesus do? It's no who is

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Jesus, I am that. And therefore, I have to learn how what that how to be him, how to interact with

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the world. Does that make sense? I mean, I know, it's not an exact, exact thing of

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Like you do these types of things, but it's context for

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allowing the presenting yourself before the Lord and allowing him

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to tell you how far you or how to exert your will as the son

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of God and say as a son of God and say, okay, I am going to do

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this. I am going to commit to this. I'm not going to commit to

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this. Lord, what's your father's heart? Do you want me to commit

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to these things or not? You know, Lord, I committed to all

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of these things. And I didn't even ask you if I could. And now

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I'm not even sure I'm not saying that you didn't, but I'm just

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making up an example. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure

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like, if I can commit if I can follow through on all of these

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things. Lord, how? What? Is there something Lord that you want me

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to drop? Or I or would you like me to just trust you that even

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though I'm the one who committed you and I to this,

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you're going to back me up on it. And it's something that I

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now can learn from realize, oh, wow, okay. So next time when I

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make commitments, I can make them by it from a different

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perspective, I can now, you know, and now ask you or make

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sure that I'm sensing your father's heart or, you know,

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stretching myself in belief and in faith. But I think I I over

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I overstretch I stretched beyond where my piece was. And I

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stretched into obligation. It's out of strife. You know?

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Yeah, that helps a lot. Actually. Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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Did someone have anything else? Oh, yeah.

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I'm looking at the

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chats. Yes, the people y'all can relate to the killing dead

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things. And Amy, it says that you used to teach boundaries,

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but you can't anymore. Yeah, it's, it's not that. It's not

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that that ideas aren't still valid to us. But they're

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understood from a different perspective. And we're not. So

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yeah. So yeah. So it's not I, I don't even know if I have the

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boundaries book anymore. I might. I might I don't remember.

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But anyway, there's still still so many good things in there.

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It's just that I learned what I could from it. And then now I'm

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learning. I don't know. Now I'm learning different things. So

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um, if no one has anything, then I can then I can mention

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something that I was talking to a client about today. And that

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is about how to choose what it is that we do. Like I mean,

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sorry, choose how the Lord is going to come through for us.

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Like if we decide, okay, well, I choose that I am going to I

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choose that I want to go on vacation. And I want to go to

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this place and do this x, y, and z. How do we how? Basically, the

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question was, to me, it was asked to me of if they if this,

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if we decide something, just because we want it, how do we

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know whether or not God's going to come through and enable us to

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do the thing? And so and so to use as an example, let's talk

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about like vacation, because that's something that I think

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that we is something that regardless of who it is that we

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are, you know, in all of our different circumstances, we'd

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all like something like that, right? So let's, you know, Lord,

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I really like to go on vacation. And so and I'd like to do it in

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X amount of time. And I'd like, it's a very good question. Okay,

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good. That is so good. I'm glad that this is resonating with

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people. Um, that I'd like it done in X amount of time and,

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and maybe even we specify the place I'd like to go here on

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vacation, in X amount of time, X number of weeks or whatever.

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talking to Catherine about earlier is we, it's important

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that when we're being fathered into these things, that we that

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we listen to the Father's heart. So we present to the Lord, the

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desires of our heart. In other words, you know, something that

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our soul wants, Lord, I would really like this. And then it's

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important that we listen to what it is that he that that he how

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bonds to that, as opposed to, or this is what I want, and I expect you to back me up.

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He's not a genie, and even though we all know that, when we're learning to choose things

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as sons, we have to, and we get excited that, oh my goodness, I now understand that I get

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to choose, yes, but we have to learn how to exert our will in a life-giving way, in a

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way that actually breeds life, in a way that's a reflection of our father's character, not

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just something that we choose to do.

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okay, well, how does he feel about it?

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Is this because we're not living life on our own, and then he enables it to happen.

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We do things with him together.

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It's us living life together.

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That's what it is that we're doing in life.

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So when we're going on, for instance, if we use this example, if we're going on vacation,

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and we're going to do that together, when we're planning the vacation, we're going to

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do that with him together.

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It's a journey that we're taking together.

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We're not by ourselves.

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We're one.

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We're one with him.

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Hey, Jonathan.

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How are you doing, buddy?

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Are you feeling better?

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Yes.

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Oh, I'm so glad.

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We've been praying for you.

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I've been talking to God about you.

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I'm glad that you're feeling better.

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I'm so glad.

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He heard your voice, and he was waving, so I had to...

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He heard your voice, and he was waving.

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I'm so glad.

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I've missed you.

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Sorry about the interaction.

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No, no, no.

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That's fine.

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I always love seeing Jonathan.

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Anyway, so that's important for us to do, so it's not just like, I want this, Lord.

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Will you back me up on it?

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Can I expect that you'll back me up on this?

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Should I have faith that you're going to back me up on this?

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And then, Lord, should I have faith that you're going to back me up on it, so therefore, I

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can go ahead and make plans, and I don't even have money in the bank for it, but I'm going

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to trust and believe that you're going to fulfill it.

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Well, we need to hear what is on his heart.

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Again, we're not doing it by ourselves.

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We're one with him.

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We're one flesh, so he gets a say as well, and then what we do is we just kind of determine,

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say for instance, if there's a measure of peace that we do feel towards it, but we don't

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feel 100% peace in it, but there's a measure of peace that we feel in it.

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We have it.

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Say for instance, if it's this big, if we need to have faith and peace this much, and

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we feel some measure of peace in it, but not all of it, well, then we operate according

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to the measure of peace that we have, and say for instance, the measure of peace that

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we have towards it is this much, so then we step out and act in this much, and by acting,

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it may not be paying the money, because maybe we don't feel like we can pay for it.

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for houses, looking for availability.

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way, or it could be starting to have faith to ask him particular questions, to pursue

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it, to be able to put our heart in it a bit more than we felt comfortable doing.

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So we just operate and act and step out in according to the measure of peace that we

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Even if we don't have this much peace, step in this one.

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Okay, so, but as far as this now, what do we do with this?

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In other words, the end goal, and so this goes back to our conversation about goals.

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You remember that we have in the Rest Intensive Series about how to make goals from rest,

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and I talked a lot about it in relationship to business, but it's the same way in everything.

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Any goal that we have, kind of think of it like you remember the Big Dipper and the Little

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Dipper up in the sky, and you remember how the two stars on the very far end of the Dipper,

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the cup, the two stars on the end, you follow them and they point towards the North Star,

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which is the last star of the handle of the Little Dipper, and that's how you can find

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the North Star.

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Sometimes it's a lot easier to find the Big Dipper in the sky than the Little Dipper.

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So you find the Big Dipper, and then you take those two stars of the Big Dipper, and then

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you follow them up and you find the North Star.

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That is how we need to view it.

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you, our destination. In other words, our goal or the thing it is that we're submitting to the

435
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:12.400
Lord. Hey, Lord, I want this. I want this specific manifestation. We kind of use those as the stars

436
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:18.080
on the Big Dipper that are pointing us towards the North Star, because here's what it is that

437
00:35:18.080 --> 00:35:24.800
we need to tell the Lord when it is that we want a particular specific manifestation.

438
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:36.800
We just use that to give ourselves kind of a way to define to us the measure of His,

439
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:40.240
or the degree to which we are believing that He is love and goodness.

440
00:35:41.520 --> 00:35:47.760
And then in other, so think of His love and His goodness as being the North Star. So the point

441
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:52.560
of getting something in mind that it is that we want, that we're asking Him for, the whole point

442
00:35:52.880 --> 00:36:00.800
needs to, the point of it is for us to help define for ourselves the degree to which we are choosing

443
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:06.240
to step out in faith that He is love and goodness. So in other words, Lord, I believe that You are so

444
00:36:06.240 --> 00:36:13.280
love and You are so loving to me, and You are just love, period. Regardless of me, You're just

445
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:19.920
so loving and You're so good that You would do this thing for me. I believe You are this much

446
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:25.680
love and this much good. Then this thing here, this manifestation that pointed us towards this

447
00:36:25.680 --> 00:36:30.960
love and this goodness, we get rid of this manifestation. We get rid of that idea, so to speak.

448
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:37.840
In other words, we lose our hold of it. We don't own it anymore. And then we just focus

449
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:43.520
on that North Star. We focus on the love and the goodness, and that is now our goal. That is the

450
00:36:43.520 --> 00:36:50.400
thing that we are stepping out in greater measures of peace towards. It's, Lord,

451
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:55.120
I don't know how You want to manifest that You are that love and You are that good. I don't know

452
00:36:55.120 --> 00:37:04.400
how You want to manifest that to me in my life, but I am choosing that to believe that You

453
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:11.760
are that, and I'm asking You to give me peace in my spirit about how I can step out in faith

454
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:18.960
in actively in my life, whether it be internal shifts or whether it be out, whether it be action

455
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:31.360
steps that I'm physically taking in order to, what's the word, and in order to act on my faith

456
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:37.440
that You are that love and that good. Because remember, faith without works, faith that He's

457
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:42.640
this love and this goodness, without works is dead. So that's the point of these things that

458
00:37:42.640 --> 00:37:49.120
we're asking Him for. So say, for instance, that you might ask Him, hey, Lord, I'd really like to

459
00:37:49.120 --> 00:37:56.960
go on vacation in so many weeks from today, and the Lord, maybe not to you, but just, I mean,

460
00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:01.760
to you, maybe you don't hear Him say this, but His answer might be, sure, sure, absolutely,

461
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:07.040
we'll do that, but there are things that we need to work out in you before I give you this,

462
00:38:07.040 --> 00:38:14.080
because if I give this to you now, then based off of where you're at right now, this could harm you.

463
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:22.080
It could create destruction in you or whatever, kind of like if we don't handle $50 well,

464
00:38:22.080 --> 00:38:27.120
and it actually, in other words, it destroys us, not that we're just doing whatever with it,

465
00:38:27.120 --> 00:38:31.120
but that it actually kind of destroys us a little bit, and we ask Him for a million dollars,

466
00:38:31.120 --> 00:38:34.800
the Lord's like, no, I don't want to give you, if you want me to give you a million dollars,

467
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:40.880
sure, I will give you a million dollars, but not yet. I will just, now that you've asked me for

468
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:48.640
that, now we have a journey for you to walk of how to believe me in the way that I'm telling you,

469
00:38:48.640 --> 00:38:54.480
you can believe me so that by the time that you get to, by the time that, so that eventually you

470
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:59.120
are prepared to receive a million dollars without it destroying you. So it's that kind of an idea.

471
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:12.560
Good to see you, Renee. Anyway, so that's the thing about having a specific thing that we'd

472
00:39:12.560 --> 00:39:21.200
like the Lord to do for us. The whole point of it is that we are setting a new,

473
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:27.360
we're defining for ourselves the extent and the degree to which we are now

474
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:32.880
trusting and believing that God is that love and that good. Because otherwise, if we just say,

475
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:37.040
oh, I want to believe God is more love and more good than I believed before.

476
00:39:37.040 --> 00:39:43.040
How do we quantify that? I mean, how do we measure love? How do we measure goodness? How do we know

477
00:39:43.040 --> 00:39:48.960
if we believed Him? I mean, like, do we use the number system? I mean, well, on a scale of one

478
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:53.840
to a hundred, well, I'm believing Him and He's loving goodness to a five today. I mean, how do

479
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:58.960
we quantify that? So by having something that we can just kind of sink our teeth into, Lord,

480
00:39:58.960 --> 00:39:59.920
I believe that you

481
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.840
are, are so loved and so good that you would do this kind of thing for me.

482
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:08.520
It gives us kind of like a, uh, a way to find our North star,

483
00:40:08.520 --> 00:40:13.320
a way to find a way to quantify for ourselves that a new degree

484
00:40:13.640 --> 00:40:15.840
to which we're believing that he's goodness and love.

485
00:40:15.860 --> 00:40:19.720
And then we just progress in our relationship towards him on that. Um,

486
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.640
I think people have been, uh, talking about that.

487
00:40:22.640 --> 00:40:24.000
I found when I fully set my intent,

488
00:40:24.040 --> 00:40:27.360
Amy said that I found when I fully set my intention for something,

489
00:40:27.640 --> 00:40:32.200
it always manifests somehow. Yeah. The Lord, um, has, uh,

490
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:35.520
we just, when we choose to step out and rest,

491
00:40:35.520 --> 00:40:39.280
and when we choose to that the Lord provides for us and he protects us,

492
00:40:39.600 --> 00:40:43.400
we don't get to choose how we just choose that. Lord,

493
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:47.400
I'm going to choose that you are going to protect and provide for me,

494
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:48.480
but I don't,

495
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:52.400
we're then giving up because we're operating out of the tree of life instead of

496
00:40:52.420 --> 00:40:53.880
the tree of the knowledge of an evil.

497
00:40:54.520 --> 00:40:59.320
This way we get to choose what we do and how we manifest and how it manifests

498
00:40:59.340 --> 00:41:02.640
because we're in control. But according to the tree of life, we just say, Hey,

499
00:41:02.640 --> 00:41:05.160
Lord, I'm going to choose that. You're going to protect and provide for me.

500
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:09.600
So he will do it always. He always, always, always, always, always will.

501
00:41:09.600 --> 00:41:12.560
It always manifests, but we just don't always get to,

502
00:41:12.720 --> 00:41:17.760
we just don't get to choose how it manifests. So, um, that's why,

503
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:22.280
um, we, that's why when we, um, are asking the Lord for something,

504
00:41:22.640 --> 00:41:26.800
we have to put our focus on the North star. We have to put, put a pointer,

505
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.560
put our focus on the degree to which we're declaring that God is love and

506
00:41:30.560 --> 00:41:35.000
goodness and get rid of this manifestation. And in other words,

507
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:36.400
our ownership of the manifestation,

508
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:39.160
it doesn't mean that we have to give up the dream and that we don't have to want

509
00:41:39.160 --> 00:41:43.480
it anymore. We can keep it before it before the Lord, but we cannot hold.

510
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.720
And this is extremely important. If I, if you catch anything that I say all night,

511
00:41:46.720 --> 00:41:47.680
this is the most important thing.

512
00:41:48.040 --> 00:41:52.960
We cannot hold God's character hostage to a

513
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:57.320
manifestation that we have dictated that he revealed himself in.

514
00:41:58.040 --> 00:42:01.040
So, um, yeah, Amy, please feel free.

515
00:42:07.640 --> 00:42:09.280
Okay. Sorry. It took me a minute to be back.

516
00:42:10.680 --> 00:42:15.680
So it's interesting how you said we can ask for something and then he may come

517
00:42:16.680 --> 00:42:18.760
back with something. And cause I,

518
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:22.480
cause I have found in the past even before I learned anything about what we're

519
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:23.320
learning now,

520
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:28.480
that it seemed like if I just decided this is what I want and I felt peace about

521
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:30.840
it, that I did,

522
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:35.240
I stopped looking at how and I just believed that, um,

523
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:38.880
God wanted me to do or to have something and always worked out.

524
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:43.880
But recently I had an experience where he kind of changed it and no matter how

525
00:42:44.600 --> 00:42:47.360
hard I tried, I couldn't get peace about the original request.

526
00:42:47.640 --> 00:42:52.440
So what it was was I wanted to go on a getaway by myself for a weekend cause I

527
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.920
hadn't done that for a long time. And I looked online and there was a real,

528
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.720
I want to go somewhere North, somewhere where it was cool.

529
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:00.880
Texas is hot right now.

530
00:43:01.160 --> 00:43:05.800
And so I looked online and there was like $70 round trip tickets to Denver.

531
00:43:06.200 --> 00:43:08.600
And I was like, Oh, I so want to go to Denver.

532
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.480
And so I bought the plane ticket.

533
00:43:11.600 --> 00:43:15.800
And then when I started trying to like get all the other pieces in place,

534
00:43:16.600 --> 00:43:19.960
it was just like, not, I wasn't feeling good about it.

535
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:23.560
It was like, this is too expensive. The car is too expensive. And this and that,

536
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:26.480
I'm like, I just don't want to spend that much on a weekend.

537
00:43:27.120 --> 00:43:30.440
And so I was like, I really want to go away, Lord.

538
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:35.440
So finally it's kind of like he knows better what we need than we do.

539
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.480
And so what I ended up doing was, um,

540
00:43:40.560 --> 00:43:43.720
and tickets right now, airline tickets are fully credited.

541
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.480
If you cancel your flight, you can use it later because of COVID.

542
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:50.200
So I knew that even if I didn't use it and it's $70, you know,

543
00:43:50.720 --> 00:43:54.240
I'd use it some other other time. So anyway, I,

544
00:43:54.240 --> 00:43:57.800
I just started thinking about it and being open to other ideas.

545
00:43:58.160 --> 00:44:00.240
And what I ended up doing was thinking, you know what,

546
00:44:00.240 --> 00:44:04.080
I'd really actually like to go on a road trip because when I drive is when I can

547
00:44:04.080 --> 00:44:08.880
really focus, connect with the Lord, especially, you know,

548
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:09.760
like when you're by yourself.

549
00:44:10.120 --> 00:44:14.920
So what it turned out was now I'm driving up to, uh,

550
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:19.320
Oklahoma in the mountains. So still mountains up in Eastern,

551
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:21.560
yeah, right by the Arkansas border.

552
00:44:21.680 --> 00:44:25.200
And just going to spend a weekend up there in a campground in a,

553
00:44:25.240 --> 00:44:29.720
in an RV all by myself. And so, yeah,

554
00:44:29.720 --> 00:44:33.720
it's like all kinds of like nature around, which I love and

555
00:44:35.680 --> 00:44:38.440
a little, you know, like little, so yeah,

556
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:41.440
I was like, and then I felt total peace about that.

557
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:45.560
But I could not no matter how much I said, I wanted to go to Denver.

558
00:44:46.040 --> 00:44:49.000
I was like, I'm just not feeling good about this.

559
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.600
And then when I found the right place and it's so interesting because the

560
00:44:52.600 --> 00:44:55.440
campground where I'm staying is called the heaven's gate. I was like, Oh,

561
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:59.240
so perfect. So anyway, but yeah,

562
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.940
That was kind of like my heart's desire and then God said, this is what you really need

563
00:45:05.940 --> 00:45:06.940
right here.

564
00:45:06.940 --> 00:45:07.940
You know?

565
00:45:07.940 --> 00:45:08.940
So anyway.

566
00:45:08.940 --> 00:45:09.940
Yeah.

567
00:45:09.940 --> 00:45:10.940
Good.

568
00:45:10.940 --> 00:45:11.940
Well, thanks for telling us.

569
00:45:11.940 --> 00:45:12.940
Yeah.

570
00:45:12.940 --> 00:45:13.940
Yeah, exactly.

571
00:45:13.940 --> 00:45:18.020
So we, we asked the Lord, Lord, this is really, you know, I really like this very important.

572
00:45:18.020 --> 00:45:20.340
And then we just start seeking his heart for it.

573
00:45:20.340 --> 00:45:24.280
And then we operate according to the measure of peace that we're feeling this far.

574
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:26.540
We don't have to have all of the answers right now.

575
00:45:26.540 --> 00:45:31.840
We don't have to have him answer, you know, a through Z about the situation and how everything's

576
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:32.840
going to work.

577
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:36.600
But we are just operate according to the level of peace that we have at that time in the,

578
00:45:36.600 --> 00:45:42.320
in the level of peace might be a to C. So we operate in a to C and we, as opposed to,

579
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:44.160
because that's faith.

580
00:45:44.160 --> 00:45:48.440
It's not faith to require that a through Z be all done.

581
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:51.960
Before we step out, like, no, no, no, no.

582
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:56.780
You know, operate according to what level you have, because it's all about relationship.

583
00:45:56.780 --> 00:46:02.060
It's not about, we're not, we're not shifting into rest and learning how to abide and rest

584
00:46:02.060 --> 00:46:09.460
in order to make our lives easier and aspects of our lives just in, in making aspects of

585
00:46:09.460 --> 00:46:16.500
our lives more comfortable or more assured it's, it's, we're just actually learning how

586
00:46:16.500 --> 00:46:23.200
to, how to live, abiding in God, being God to creation.

587
00:46:23.200 --> 00:46:26.680
So we have to learn who he is and we have to release.

588
00:46:26.680 --> 00:46:30.760
We have to work on ourselves first before we have it to give to, before we have to give

589
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:33.960
it to, we have it to give to creation.

590
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:38.360
So anyway, yeah, I missed something.

591
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:42.360
Let's see.

592
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.680
So Catherine mentioned, this is helpful.

593
00:46:44.680 --> 00:46:48.060
I found God helping me see what's at the bottom of my desires.

594
00:46:48.060 --> 00:46:49.060
Yes.

595
00:46:49.060 --> 00:46:50.580
So I can ask for what I really want.

596
00:46:50.580 --> 00:46:51.580
Exactly.

597
00:46:51.580 --> 00:46:56.420
So many times when we use the desires of our heart entirely too flippantly, because really

598
00:46:56.420 --> 00:47:03.820
it's just something that our souls one or that we feel is going to, you know, like satisfy

599
00:47:03.820 --> 00:47:08.860
an itch when really, you know, what it is that our true desires of our heart or what

600
00:47:08.860 --> 00:47:11.140
it is that the Lord actually knows that.

601
00:47:11.140 --> 00:47:12.780
And that's what he wants to fulfill.

602
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:16.280
In other words, if I'm itching for something, oh funny, use the same word.

603
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:20.320
If I'm itching for something, he's helping me to get to the root of the need.

604
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.120
That's helping me let go of what it looks like.

605
00:47:22.120 --> 00:47:23.120
Exactly.

606
00:47:23.120 --> 00:47:24.120
Exactly.

607
00:47:24.120 --> 00:47:26.520
I should have just finished reading your quote before I started talking.

608
00:47:26.520 --> 00:47:27.520
Let's see.

609
00:47:27.520 --> 00:47:28.520
We all understand.

610
00:47:28.520 --> 00:47:29.520
We all understand.

611
00:47:29.520 --> 00:47:30.520
Yeah.

612
00:47:30.520 --> 00:47:31.520
Can I share an example?

613
00:47:31.520 --> 00:47:36.440
I actually had a conversation with him this morning about like getting back into school,

614
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:38.160
just to give you like a little background.

615
00:47:38.160 --> 00:47:41.840
It's been challenging this, I'm feeling very, like something I've struggled with my whole

616
00:47:41.900 --> 00:47:44.580
life is feeling excluded.

617
00:47:44.580 --> 00:47:48.780
And I'm so on the edges of school because I'm in a program that's only meets a couple

618
00:47:48.780 --> 00:47:51.620
days a week and we're never on campus and all this kind of stuff.

619
00:47:51.620 --> 00:48:00.180
So it's like, and, and I've been, but simultaneously, like there's some people at school that I

620
00:48:00.180 --> 00:48:04.620
really want to intentionally pursue friendship with, but I feel so awkward about it.

621
00:48:04.620 --> 00:48:08.140
So anyway, I was just sort of like whining this morning.

622
00:48:08.140 --> 00:48:12.600
I was like, I don't want to be my friend and it's just so weird and dah, dah, dah.

623
00:48:12.600 --> 00:48:18.520
But in the process of like backing up from it and him being, he just kind of poked with

624
00:48:18.520 --> 00:48:24.320
some questions and he was just like, so like, what, like, what are you actually wanting?

625
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:29.240
And I just realized like, Oh, like I want sisters.

626
00:48:29.240 --> 00:48:32.440
Like I have a lot of little sisters.

627
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:35.480
I want some like, yeah.

628
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:36.480
For older sisters.

629
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:40.300
Like I need some relationships that feel like this in my life.

630
00:48:40.300 --> 00:48:42.980
And I don't feel like I have them right now and I've never had them.

631
00:48:42.980 --> 00:48:48.700
And so I just was able to be like, okay, that's whatever that looks like.

632
00:48:48.700 --> 00:48:50.120
That's what I want.

633
00:48:50.120 --> 00:48:55.620
Instead of targeting specific people to be like, you could be a sister, you know, which

634
00:48:55.620 --> 00:48:59.380
is such a, like a weird balance because you do have to put yourself out in vulnerability

635
00:48:59.380 --> 00:49:01.900
and relationships and try things out and that kind of thing.

636
00:49:01.900 --> 00:49:09.320
But it just was so cool for me to see like, Oh, this is what my heart is actually needing.

637
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:15.440
And that can come like, it doesn't depend on this person or this one specific result.

638
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:18.280
So yeah, that just helped.

639
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:19.280
Yeah.

640
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:21.320
But no, that's perfect.

641
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:22.320
That's perfect.

642
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:27.600
And that, that the Lord showed you, you know what it is that you really need because, and

643
00:49:27.600 --> 00:49:31.460
then to be able to also accept and to receive that is really huge.

644
00:49:31.460 --> 00:49:37.900
And it shows, it shows the depth of, of your desire for the Lord that you were willing

645
00:49:37.900 --> 00:49:43.640
to accept that because so often we'll hear what the real thing is, but like what the

646
00:49:43.640 --> 00:49:48.540
real root is, but we are not willing to let go of how we want it to manifest.

647
00:49:48.540 --> 00:49:54.140
So, but though your willingness to be able to let go of how it manifests and what it

648
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:07.440
Maturity doesn't seem like the right word, but a commitment to the Lord, desire, true

649
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:18.720
desire for him and not how he shows up in our lives, but just him, who he is, whatever

650
00:50:18.720 --> 00:50:26.280
he looks like, not how he desires to show up in what it is I've got going on, but just

651
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:31.600
hey Lord, where are you, and that's what it is that I'm seeking. I'm seeking you, not

652
00:50:31.600 --> 00:50:38.760
your answers. Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's huge, because the Lord, just like anyone,

653
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:43.000
doesn't want to be wanted for what he can give us, but he wants to be desired for who

654
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:51.720
he is. Yeah. There were things that I wanted to do for him one time. In fact, I wanted

655
00:50:51.720 --> 00:50:55.680
to go on a mission trip, and I was going back and forth trying to understand, so does he

656
00:50:55.680 --> 00:50:58.720
want me to go on the mission trip or not? This is like 10 years ago. In fact, it was

657
00:50:58.720 --> 00:51:08.000
exactly 10 years ago. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was 10 years ago, as of a few weeks ago. Anyway,

658
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:13.720
I was going back and forth and back and forth about it, and then the Lord, through a couple

659
00:51:13.720 --> 00:51:23.160
of people, told me, it's like, I want you to seek me for me, not for the answer of whether

660
00:51:23.160 --> 00:51:31.200
or not I want you to go. It's like, okay. Once I shifted and I sought him for himself,

661
00:51:31.200 --> 00:51:37.760
I'm telling you within maybe a minute or two, actually, it may not have even been that long,

662
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:44.280
he gave me the answer. It was very interesting. Once I did that, I was worshipping him in

663
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:51.120
my apartment. I turned on some music, started worshipping him in my apartment. I honestly

664
00:51:51.160 --> 00:51:57.120
think it's been 10 years, but I think that it was within, I'm not entirely sure, but I believe

665
00:51:57.120 --> 00:52:04.400
that it was within the first 60 seconds. He spoke to me, and you know what he spoke to me is,

666
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:11.200
he said, Ashley, do you know my voice? I said, yes. He said, then what have I been telling you?

667
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:16.000
About what have I been answering? In other words, he was telling me, his answer was, Ashley,

668
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:20.720
I've been answering you this whole time about what it is I want you to do, and it's not been

669
00:52:20.720 --> 00:52:29.920
enough for you. My answer to you that you've asked for is, actually, I've already been giving

670
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:34.720
you the answer. Anyway, that was really sweet and special to me because it affirmed to me that I was

671
00:52:34.720 --> 00:52:41.440
hearing from the Lord and it answered my question. I did it because, but first of all, he said,

672
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:46.720
hey, Ashley, you've been going back and forth about this for two weeks, and you're in turmoil.

673
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:53.600
He's like, I want you to seek me for me, not for the answers that I give you of what it is I do

674
00:52:53.600 --> 00:53:00.000
and don't want you to do. He's like, I'm much more interested in you wanting me than wanting to know

675
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:08.080
what I want you to do. That's so good. Yeah, which is nice. It means that he wants relationship with

676
00:53:08.080 --> 00:53:13.520
us as opposed to obedience. In other words, it's more important to him than obedience.

677
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:19.280
Yeah. Just like obedience is better than sacrifice, relationship is better than obedience.

678
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:24.320
Yeah. It's funny. There was a certain season with the Lord where over and over I kept hearing

679
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:29.520
Jesus. It was specifically Jesus saying, there's a scripture that says, I desire mercy over

680
00:53:29.520 --> 00:53:36.560
sacrifice. It's like, I think that level of like, there's obedience, but then there's sacrifice,

681
00:53:36.560 --> 00:53:45.920
and then there's mercy. For me, it was just like him being like, I actually want to extend mercy

682
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:53.680
to you rather than you sacrificing yourself on some altar to me all the time. I want you to

683
00:53:53.680 --> 00:53:59.040
give yourself a break, and I want to give you a break. Anyway, you just reminded me of that.

684
00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:10.400
Yes, because he is more interested in us receiving from him than us giving him something,

685
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:16.960
including giving ourselves, because that's what sacrifice is. He's more interested in us being

686
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:22.880
willing to receive from him than for us giving him ourselves, because us being willing to receive

687
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:30.320
from him is essentially us giving him ourselves, except it's giving him ourselves out of

688
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:40.160
vulnerable submission. We have nothing to give as opposed to the sacrifice, which is from works,

689
00:54:40.160 --> 00:54:47.440
which is something that we feel that we have to be able to offer. It makes us feel like we're

690
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:59.760
paying a wage. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, good. There we go. So does anyone have anything?

691
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:12.160
else? I can't, I'm trying to think if I talked about anything. There were, oh, there were

692
00:55:12.160 --> 00:55:18.680
a few things. Where is it? Let's see. So you'll let me know if you can, if you have something

693
00:55:18.680 --> 00:55:27.800
and then I will see if there's anything that I wrote down from my, from the conference.

694
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:31.800
I've had people ask me or tell me that they want me to share the things that I learned

695
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:42.440
in the conference. But, and I'm sure that I will share aspects of it. I will 100% share

696
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:51.920
aspects of it over time, but I don't have a plan currently within the, you know, really

697
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:57.240
current future, current future, that doesn't sound right. Right now, currently, I don't

698
00:55:57.240 --> 00:56:02.920
have like a live planned or whatever to be able to talk about it. And here's why. What

699
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:12.720
I do in the rest intensive is I want to make sure that y'all get, y'all, that I act as

700
00:56:12.720 --> 00:56:21.440
a life giving spirit in the rest intensive, not as a transfer of information and our knowledge.

701
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:29.200
And if I don't have it, I can't give it. If I'm not living it, I don't have it to give

702
00:56:29.200 --> 00:56:35.240
you. So I can give you information. I can tell you the things that I learned, but what

703
00:56:35.240 --> 00:56:40.560
my desire is, and it's not that I don't ever give y'all information. There are certain

704
00:56:40.560 --> 00:56:53.320
things that I, that resonate with my spirit, that I, that I choose to believe and choose

705
00:56:53.320 --> 00:57:01.200
to make a part of myself and have just recently stepped out in, but I, but I'm still learning

706
00:57:01.200 --> 00:57:09.080
how to at a very elementary level. I will sprinkle those things in short, but the majority

707
00:57:09.080 --> 00:57:16.000
of what it is that I try to put in the rest intensive and, and, and give to y'all is what

708
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:24.360
it is that I live. So there's an aspect of the weekend that I already am living in. And

709
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:27.960
I actually, because I've already done that training, I did this training back in, back

710
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:33.520
in February, that this is just the first time I attended it live, that there are some aspects

711
00:57:33.520 --> 00:57:39.360
of it that I will be speaking on, but it's out of what I'm already living. I'm sure there

712
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:42.800
are some things that I'll sprinkle in. That's more information that I'm just like, okay,

713
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:47.480
I'm just, I'm choosing to believe it, but I'm just still trying to get a grasp of it.

714
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:55.480
So, but there's so much, and it was so, so life changing and so revolutionary that I'm

715
00:57:55.480 --> 00:58:01.800
sure that there's, that there's still ways in which I'm learning how to actually internalize

716
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:12.280
it, receive it, and live it out. And until I do, I don't feel comfortable, you know,

717
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:18.120
doing a, doing a live on it yet. And it's not that doing a live on it or anything would

718
00:58:18.120 --> 00:58:23.840
be wrong, understand. It's just how I choose to do the rest intensive based off of how

719
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:28.480
I talk to the father and what I'm sensing in the father's heart that he and I want to

720
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:34.840
do together in this thing that's called the rest intensive. So, but if I were to get together

721
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:40.640
with like somebody, I would just like, oh, by the way, I learned all of this, but it's

722
00:58:40.640 --> 00:58:46.400
very different from how he's put it on, what he's put on my heart to express myself in

723
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:50.600
the rest intensive. So anyway, just FYI, while you might hear some things and not, and not

724
00:58:50.600 --> 00:58:57.680
others, again, there's nothing wrong if other people choose to operate their, their programs,

725
00:58:57.680 --> 00:59:03.200
their ministries, um, talking about something that they just recently learned that they're

726
00:59:03.200 --> 00:59:08.160
not living out yet. That's still fine. That is, there's nothing wrong with it, but we

727
00:59:08.160 --> 00:59:13.760
all have to operate according to how we feel, um, what we're sensing in the father's heart.

728
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:18.520
And this is just kind of like how I have the time and the monetary commitments. Other people

729
00:59:18.520 --> 00:59:23.040
don't have those in there, um, uh, or they operate them in different ways in their business.

730
00:59:23.040 --> 00:59:28.720
And I just operated according to the way the spirit and tells me to do it. Um, so anyway,

731
00:59:28.720 --> 00:59:36.080
um, Oh, wow. There's so many things. Let me go down. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. I'm on the wrong

732
00:59:36.080 --> 00:59:46.600
on the wrong. Oh, here it is. DHT. Um, and then we'll bring out the healer. Um, okay.

733
00:59:46.600 --> 00:59:50.280
So something that he said that I know that I've already talked about that I just wanted

734
00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:55.120
to mention, Oh, before I, before I mentioned this though, um, cause it is, it is past,

735
00:59:55.120 --> 00:59:59.360
um, it is time right now. Um, and then I'm just going to probably just mentioned just

736
00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:00.000
a couple of things.

737
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:10.600
But, and then we'll close for the night. Is there anything that anybody else had, I wanted to make sure that everyone's questions got answered that they'd come on with. I'm assuming they have

738
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:13.160
But

739
01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:15.480
Sir, anything

740
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:19.160
Everyone good. Okay.

741
01:00:20.080 --> 01:00:29.080
Okay, so two things that he mentioned that I thought were really fascinating. Two reasons for failure as in like

742
01:00:29.720 --> 01:00:39.960
Failing. Okay. By the way, y'all remember that the conference. I went to was healing conference. It was understanding our identity as sons and kings of God and how and

743
01:00:40.120 --> 01:00:52.120
How and and being able to stand in that how we have been commanded to heal, heal, not pray for people are not pray to God and ask him to heal, but actually

744
01:00:52.720 --> 01:01:02.920
Command healing and it says reasons for failure. He pointed these out. He said our unbelief and the traditions of men, which, interestingly, the traditions of men.

745
01:01:03.240 --> 01:01:12.240
Are unbelief, but I just thought that was really, really fascinating that those are the two reasons for why when we command healing why healing wouldn't manifest

746
01:01:12.560 --> 01:01:23.200
It is and it's unbelief and it's the traditions of men, the traditions of men end up building up a lot of excuses or what about why God quote unquote wouldn't heal

747
01:01:24.160 --> 01:01:40.920
And anyway, I that was that one really hit home for me. And then, of course, he mentioned something that we all know by nature. You already believe or it is our natural. It is of our nature to believe our father.

748
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:53.040
In the soul. Oh, I love this. I loved how he worded this he said the soul is the way that the Spirit interacts with the created realms. I liked that.

749
01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:59.440
Like that makes sense. And and y'all already that

750
01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:09.880
And God is not our problem. He has our ever present help. He never he doesn't bring sickness on people.

751
01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:23.000
He doesn't use it to teach us he will can use it, but he doesn't bring it on us to teach us a lesson. But if it's honest, well, then he can obviously use it for our good, but he's not our problem.

752
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:36.840
He's not creating a problem. He's not creating our issue. He, on the, on the other hand, says that he is our ever present help in times of trouble and we're living what we believe we just aren't believing what we think we are

753
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:54.000
But we're all living what it is we really believe so we there's no such thing as, well, I believe it, but, but I'm not, but I'm not seeing it. No, if, if we, if we, if we believe it, then we're living it.

754
01:02:57.360 --> 01:02:59.080
So those are just things

755
01:03:00.080 --> 01:03:06.880
Oh, and then stress and fear can do. We know this stress and fear can do more damage than the than the disease that we're fighting

756
01:03:08.560 --> 01:03:14.200
So, and one thing that I do want to mention, and I can't believe I'm going to say this

757
01:03:14.200 --> 01:03:24.280
But I'm just going to just drop it in there. I really have tried to avoid any, any conversations about any talking about, you know, the current fear and

758
01:03:26.360 --> 01:03:37.320
The virus and all of that. And it's very volatile subject and really it's just one other thing with that we could talk about among a million things.

759
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:49.440
So it really isn't necessarily a more important subject than anything else. And so I didn't want to give it any glory, but something that I did want to mention has just been on my, on my heart that I just kind of watched

760
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:58.400
And then the, and then my pastor ended up saying the same thing. You know, he was the leader of the conference. He ended up saying the same thing. I thought, okay, so I'm not the only one who you thought this

761
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:12.400
And that is the fact that what is I'm currently we just need. I think it's important that we're just aware of it. It doesn't mean that we need to change what it is that we're doing. I think it's just something that we can be conscious of and aware of. And that is the fact that that currently what's been

762
01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:17.000
The word and

763
01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:19.160
What's the word and

764
01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:27.320
You can't think of the word. But anyway, what's currently being sold is fear of selves.

765
01:04:28.040 --> 01:04:39.440
Because you notice, you notice what it is we're doing. We're wearing our masks, because sometimes and then other people are wearing masks, because it's like what people can internalize. Here's my point.

766
01:04:39.440 --> 01:05:09.360
What people can internalize and what's very important for us to make sure that we don't internalize is, is the idea that we can create destruction in someone else or they can create destruction or they can destroy us because it's very important that we are aware of what we're doing and that we're aware of what we're not doing.

767
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.200
villainizing person against person.

768
01:05:03.200 --> 01:05:05.480
And so it doesn't mean that we need to change

769
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:07.800
and we need to stop wearing masks and whatever.

770
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:10.040
So I'm not talking about whether or not people should

771
01:05:10.040 --> 01:05:12.200
and shouldn't wear masks, et cetera, et cetera.

772
01:05:12.200 --> 01:05:15.200
Just, I think it's just very, very important

773
01:05:15.200 --> 01:05:19.500
that we remember we are not destructive.

774
01:05:19.500 --> 01:05:21.580
We are not a problem.

775
01:05:21.580 --> 01:05:24.820
And it's important that if someone else

776
01:05:24.820 --> 01:05:29.820
has a particular fear that we make sure

777
01:05:30.240 --> 01:05:33.000
that if they are concerned about us

778
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:36.760
or concerned about being around us, et cetera, et cetera,

779
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:41.440
that we do not receive the belief

780
01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:46.440
that we have something within us, virus or not,

781
01:05:46.600 --> 01:05:48.920
that can destroy other people.

782
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:51.700
That is a lie from Satan.

783
01:05:51.700 --> 01:05:54.160
And it's very important for us to not villainize others

784
01:05:54.160 --> 01:05:58.880
in our mind that, oh my goodness, they could destroy me.

785
01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:01.440
God is the one who identifies us.

786
01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:06.440
And he's, and therefore we are of the new man.

787
01:06:08.160 --> 01:06:09.760
We are the new nature.

788
01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:11.600
We are completely healed.

789
01:06:11.600 --> 01:06:12.720
We are righteous.

790
01:06:12.720 --> 01:06:13.980
We are holy, whatever it is,

791
01:06:13.980 --> 01:06:15.760
even if it's not related to the virus,

792
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:18.040
even if it's not related to anything health,

793
01:06:18.040 --> 01:06:23.040
we cannot receive any lie that or any,

794
01:06:23.680 --> 01:06:25.880
and we cannot attribute any meaning

795
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:27.940
to anything someone says or does

796
01:06:27.980 --> 01:06:30.380
or ways that they attack us or whatever,

797
01:06:30.380 --> 01:06:33.460
to believe that inherently we have,

798
01:06:33.460 --> 01:06:36.540
we are or have a problem.

799
01:06:36.540 --> 01:06:38.260
So I just wanted to mention that.

800
01:06:38.260 --> 01:06:39.380
That's something that I've noticed

801
01:06:39.380 --> 01:06:41.300
is very, very interesting about this whole,

802
01:06:41.300 --> 01:06:43.420
the whole mask thing is that I've noticed

803
01:06:43.420 --> 01:06:45.580
that it's like people are told like,

804
01:06:45.580 --> 01:06:48.540
hey, protect other people from you.

805
01:06:49.380 --> 01:06:52.060
It's a major, major problem that we don't need to,

806
01:06:52.060 --> 01:06:53.700
we don't need to believe.

807
01:06:53.700 --> 01:06:58.420
So wearing the mask or no mask doesn't matter.

808
01:06:58.420 --> 01:07:00.460
You know, people ask, should we wear masks or not?

809
01:07:00.460 --> 01:07:01.540
It doesn't matter.

810
01:07:01.540 --> 01:07:03.540
Whatever your conscience says to do,

811
01:07:03.540 --> 01:07:05.580
you know, it doesn't, it doesn't matter.

812
01:07:05.580 --> 01:07:06.700
It's important though,

813
01:07:06.700 --> 01:07:09.540
that we don't take on a particular belief

814
01:07:09.540 --> 01:07:13.940
that where we change our sense of identity

815
01:07:14.980 --> 01:07:16.620
from what it is that we're doing or not doing.

816
01:07:16.620 --> 01:07:19.160
So that's all that I wanted to say about that.

817
01:07:20.460 --> 01:07:22.020
Painful to smile and say hello,

818
01:07:22.020 --> 01:07:24.100
just to have someone act like they're terrified.

819
01:07:24.100 --> 01:07:25.300
I know.

820
01:07:25.300 --> 01:07:27.340
It's so sad how everyone behaves.

821
01:07:27.340 --> 01:07:30.100
Yes, Amy, I am a life-giving spirit

822
01:07:30.100 --> 01:07:32.020
and we're required to wear them in West Virginia.

823
01:07:32.020 --> 01:07:32.900
It's a whole different world.

824
01:07:32.900 --> 01:07:34.740
Yeah, we're required to wear them here in Texas.

825
01:07:34.740 --> 01:07:39.740
In fact, I've traveled to Texas, Arkansas and Louisiana.

826
01:07:40.100 --> 01:07:41.700
And yeah, we're required by law

827
01:07:41.700 --> 01:07:44.620
to wear them in all those places if we go,

828
01:07:44.620 --> 01:07:49.340
you know, if we're, if you step into a business, et cetera.

829
01:07:49.340 --> 01:07:51.660
So not talking, I'm not addressing, you know,

830
01:07:52.300 --> 01:07:53.260
whether or not we should or shouldn't wear masks

831
01:07:53.260 --> 01:07:56.300
or, you know, go against the law or obey the law.

832
01:07:56.300 --> 01:07:58.020
I'm not even addressing it at all.

833
01:07:58.020 --> 01:08:00.940
I'm talking about the fact that regardless

834
01:08:00.940 --> 01:08:03.180
of whether or not we choose to,

835
01:08:03.180 --> 01:08:06.700
it's, we need to make sure that we don't choose to,

836
01:08:06.700 --> 01:08:09.740
meaning like whether or not we actually are wearing a mask

837
01:08:09.740 --> 01:08:11.780
or not, depending on where it is that we're living

838
01:08:11.780 --> 01:08:13.580
and what it is that we believe, et cetera.

839
01:08:13.580 --> 01:08:16.220
It's just very important that we don't,

840
01:08:16.220 --> 01:08:18.819
that we don't use it to determine our identity.

841
01:08:18.819 --> 01:08:21.899
So that is all that I wanted to say about that.

842
01:08:21.899 --> 01:08:24.300
So, okay.

843
01:08:24.300 --> 01:08:26.779
So yeah, Catherine had to go, yes.

844
01:08:26.779 --> 01:08:30.180
And so we all are too,

845
01:08:30.180 --> 01:08:32.779
but it's good to get to see everybody.

846
01:08:32.779 --> 01:08:35.420
I think the next time I talk to y'all,

847
01:08:38.220 --> 01:08:40.140
where will I talk to y'all?

848
01:08:40.140 --> 01:08:40.979
I don't know.

849
01:08:40.979 --> 01:08:43.979
I don't know where I will be when I talk to y'all.

850
01:08:43.979 --> 01:08:46.260
I'm not sure if I'm going to be in Missouri

851
01:08:46.260 --> 01:08:49.020
or if I'm going to be, if I'm going to be in Houston.

852
01:08:49.020 --> 01:08:50.819
Everything kind of changed this afternoon.

853
01:08:50.819 --> 01:08:53.260
So I'm going to have to look that up.

854
01:08:53.260 --> 01:08:57.260
But it's good to get to see y'all.

855
01:08:57.260 --> 01:08:58.859
Bye, Jonathan.

856
01:08:58.859 --> 01:09:00.380
Bye, Ashley.

857
01:09:00.380 --> 01:09:01.220
Bye.

858
01:09:06.220 --> 01:09:07.420
I love you.

859
01:09:07.420 --> 01:09:09.660
I love you too, Betty.

860
01:09:09.660 --> 01:09:11.899
Do you know who I'm going to see next week?

861
01:09:11.899 --> 01:09:13.819
I'm going to see Chris.

862
01:09:13.819 --> 01:09:15.340
I know that he's your friend.

863
01:09:16.380 --> 01:09:18.939
I'm going to see Chris.

864
01:09:18.939 --> 01:09:19.779
Yeah.

865
01:09:19.779 --> 01:09:20.620
Yes.

866
01:09:24.620 --> 01:09:27.260
Have you been watching any of his sermons lately?

867
01:09:28.140 --> 01:09:29.140
Yeah.

868
01:09:29.140 --> 01:09:29.979
You have?

869
01:09:29.979 --> 01:09:30.819
Well, good.

870
01:09:30.819 --> 01:09:32.899
He's got new ones out.

871
01:09:32.899 --> 01:09:35.020
You'll have to watch his new ones.

872
01:09:35.020 --> 01:09:35.859
Yep.

873
01:09:37.859 --> 01:09:39.180
Yeah, he likes them.

874
01:09:39.180 --> 01:09:41.060
I love watching.

875
01:09:41.060 --> 01:09:42.700
He likes them, yeah.

876
01:09:43.939 --> 01:09:45.700
Yeah, it's fun.

877
01:09:45.700 --> 01:09:46.819
All right, I will.

878
01:09:46.819 --> 01:09:48.420
Good to see y'all.

879
01:09:48.420 --> 01:09:49.260
Bye.

880
01:09:49.260 --> 01:09:50.100
Bye.

881
01:09:50.100 --> 01:09:50.939
Bye.

882
01:09:50.939 --> 01:09:51.779
Bye.

883
01:09:51.779 --> 01:09:53.380
Bye, bud.

884
01:09:53.380 --> 01:09:54.580
Oh, you're so sweet.