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Hey!

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I'm in the middle of fixing dinner, so I'll probably just listen. Is anyone else on?

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No, I think that Steph was on for a little bit, but she's not on right now.

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And I'm thinking I might need to move because it is very hot where I am.

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I need to move.

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We'll see how many people are able to jump on tonight.

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I had, let's see here, just a sec.

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It's still light where you are too. Are you in mountain time or Pacific time?

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I'm in mountain time right now.

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I'm in Denver, Colorado.

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It is 7 o'clock here for me.

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I was in my room and it is very hot in there, so I'm going to see if I can move to a different location.

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Maybe this will work better.

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Yay!

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I'm in the living room.

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Ah, there we go.

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So how have you been?

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I'm good, yeah.

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You know, just kind of trudging along, but had that interesting revelation from Mia's offhanded comments.

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That was great and so encouraging.

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It was just funny. It was really like a light bulb went on when she said it.

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Yeah, that's great. It was very encouraging to me as well.

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And I thought it was just a very worthwhile statement to have that written up and posted.

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And a lot of other people have come up with, I've loved how different people have worded different things.

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Like they've taken these concepts and they've worded them very differently.

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And so when you, and I thought, you know, I wish others in the rest intensive could hear the way that some of these people are putting it.

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And just different ideas.

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And it never occurred to me, I guess, to actually write them out and post them until yours.

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And I thought, I could post it and say, you know, Amy, by Amy Hayes.

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That was so sweet. I was like, wow.

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That would be an encouragement to everybody.

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I mean, because that's what we all do. We all see it from a different perspective.

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With very unique wording and you never know what's going to cause something to really strike the heart of someone else.

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So anyway, it's very encouraging to me. I loved it.

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Just, you know, you live life expectantly and expecting surprises and all of that.

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I loved it. I'm glad that it's been encouraging for you.

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Yeah, very cool.

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Well, you never know. I don't know if we're going to be the only ones on or not.

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There's two more people.

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Oh, are there?

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There we go. Oh, there they are. Hey, guys.

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Yeah, because I had looked at the participants list and I'd only seen Amy and I and then apparently I forget that when I'm on my phone.

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I forget that I need to go to gallery view to see everybody because I'm so used to on my computer because I usually do it on my computer until I started traveling more.

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On my computer, it automatically shows gallery view. So I just thought, oh, I guess we're the only ones on.

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How are y'all doing?

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Good here.

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Good, good.

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How's work going?

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I mean, it's a really exhausting good time in life right now.

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It's just really.

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It feels like there's a lot to process with the Lord and just not very much time, but I take advantage of the times that I do have to just be with him, mainly in worship and

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crying out and just, you know.

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processing the emotions in that little bits of time, and then it just feels like I have to

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let go of a lot of the other things for now that I want to do.

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Yeah, but it's good just through different times that the Lord wants to focus on certain things.

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And the nice thing is that if He wants to focus on other things, He'll sustain us in the things

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that we can't focus on. He'll sustain us in all of them, and we don't have to focus on them in

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order for Him to still uphold us in those areas. So it's not like, oh my goodness, well, if I don't

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focus on it, it's going to go to hell in a handbasket. You know, the Lord will take care of

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all of that. That's well said. Yes, that's really good. Yeah, so good. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what?

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I was going to say, if it was going to go to hell in a handbasket, it would have.

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It would have by now. He would have taken care of things. Oh, it would have by now. Oh, got it. Got it. Yeah, it would have gone to hell in a handbasket in so many ways, you know. That's right. That's right. You know, one thing that

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one thing that COVID taught me right away was how little we actually control. And I actually shared

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that with someone in the ministry, and they said, oh, Amy, actually very, very little. We control very, very little. Yeah, I think we do.

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Yeah. And then we panic when it looks like we're losing control. And it's like, no, just let it go.

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Let him take over. Be the dad. That's right. Yeah, take a life lesson from Elsa. She had to learn it the hard way.

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Let it go. Let it go. So does anyone have anything to start us off with? I have not.

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I'm trying to think. I forgot to come with something. I'm sure I can think of something, but to start us off with. But, hey, Natalie.

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But does anyone have anything that they wanted to start us off with? Any question or anything that they've been going through with the ward that, I don't know, kind of was given a different perspective on things?

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Hi. I've finally been able to get on one. It's been kind of crazy since school started. So I've had lots of evening things now with my schedule shift. I'm sure.

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This has actually been a question I've been wanting to ask you for a while was, because I know you talk about like manifesting or using that word. And so I would love to know

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more about like what that looks like. Because I know it's also used a lot with like new age and stuff. And so what's a good way to explain that? Especially like I work with a lot of other Christian entrepreneur women and like to use that word. And what does that mean exactly? And how do you make sure you're not doing things that you shouldn't be? Does that make sense?

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Yeah. So, oh yeah, absolutely. So for one thing,

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it was our God who created it all in the first place. But the non-believers are the ones who actually took him in his word, even though they didn't know if this source was God, they took him in his word and have been able to benefit from it. They're able to operate in it.

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But it's a principle that God created, not that the new age has created or whatever. And they just,

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they try to remove manifestation, so to speak. I know that that's a trigger word for some people,

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but they, that idea, they removed that from its original life source. And they tried to

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create it from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil out of themselves where they could create

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their own reality. When what God intended was that sons would mature in relationship with the

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father according to the father's heart and manifest things that exist in heaven and exist in the

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invisible, manifest them down into the invisible. So it's making, it's like the Lord's prayer where

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it says, you know, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. So it's, so God's intention

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is for mankind will originally, so when he made us a soul and body, he made us to be able to create,

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to make the invisible, actually visible. And that's a manifestation. That's all it is. It's

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taking what is invisible and making it visible. It's not creating something for our own selfish

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purposes, believing that it's, believing that we're abandoned alone and have to protect ourselves.

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And so we desire to make more money.

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so we're just going to manifest it. The intention of manifestation is, and the whole definition of

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it from God's perspective, is to make what already exists in the invisible realm in God,

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in the Father's heart, and make it actually visible. But in order for us to do that,

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we have to know the Father. We have to know the Father's heart. So that's what the manifestation

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is. Manifestation happens when our soul comes into agreement with our spirit that's in heaven,

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knows all things, is one with the Father, et cetera, and knows all truth, never rebels against

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the Father, et cetera. When our soul comes into agreement with our spirit, therefore,

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is in agreement with the Father, and then when we come into agreement with it, that's what causes

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what is in heaven to manifest down into the earth. It's a chain reaction. So when our soul

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comes into agreement with our spirit, it manifests down into our soul, and our soul is what always

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creates the blueprint or the instruction for what the body then carries out into the visible. So

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that is the biblical, godly definition and explanation of manifestation, is to make what

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the thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. That's what we are here for. That's what this body

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is doing. It's meant to house the invisible God, and make the invisible God visible, and as such,

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it is releasing creation from frustration. It's making, see, this is creation. And so,

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as we manifest who it is that we are in heaven down into the earth in our soul and in our body,

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we're releasing creation from frustration, and as we do that, as we manifest that, we can then have

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something to give to the rest of creation, which would be trees and animals and land and business

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and finances and relationships, et cetera, because we can give away what it is that we have,

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but we have to manifest who it is that we are in spirit into our soul and our body first,

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and then we have it to be able to give to the rest of creation so that we release the rest of

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creation from frustration. According to, I believe it's Romans 8, it says that creation is groaning

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in anticipation of the revelation of the sons of God. And it's been subjected to frustration,

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it says, not willingly, but in the hope that it would be able to, it would be able to,

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how is it, be able to be saved by the glory of the children of God or something like that.

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I forget exactly how that's worded, but anyway, I, that, that's the, can I read my version to you?

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Since I'm sitting here, would that be helpful? Okay. It says, for, let's see, for I consider,

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I'll start here because this is a good spot, for I consider from the standpoint of faith that the

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sufferings of the present life are not worthy to be compared with the glory that's about to be

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revealed to us and in us. For even the whole creation, all nature, waits eagerly for the

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children of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration and futility, not

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willingly, because of some intentional fault on its part, but by the will of him who subjected it

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in hope that the creation itself will also be free from its bondage to decay and gain entrance into

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the glorious freedom of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation has been moaning

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together as in the pains of childbirth until now. What verses? Perfect. Thank you. Yeah,

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that was Romans eight, starting in 18 through 22. Okay. Yeah. And there's even verses before

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and after that, that give even greater context, including why we were, what salvation is,

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which is a really hard one for certain, some people to swallow. But it says that it says,

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I think in the later verses, that salvation was for the redemption of our bodies. Because remember

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our soul has never been separate, is not separated from the Lord and has never rebelled against the

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Lord. But our bodies being part of creation, we're subjected to frustration and therefore

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salvation is for the redemption of our body. I mean, sorry. Yeah. For the redemption of our body,

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meaning the manifestation of who it is that we are in spirit down into our body, which redeems it,

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which releases it from frustration. We experience all of this pain, all of this heartache,

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all the whatever that's being subjected to frustration. And that's what Jesus even had

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to overcome. Jesus didn't sin and yet Jesus had to overcome because he was still put into a body.

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And so he still had to overcome what always, you know, the fact that his body being in human

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form was subjected to frustration. He released it and he freed it, which is evidenced by the

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fact that when he died and rose again, he had a spiritual body. He had the exact same body that

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he'd had before, only it had been redeemed. And because he still had all of the scars and all of

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the all of the wounds in his hands, his feet, and his thigh. And so, but yet he was, he was,

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he was teleporting. He was, he was bouncing from like the road to Emmaus to somewhere else. And

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then suddenly he's appearing in the room with the disciples and suddenly he's disappearing from here

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and appearing there. And, but he wanted them to know, Hey, look, this is still really my same

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body that I died in. So to, so to speak, I mean, it'd been redeemed, but it still had the same,

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same scars, the same wounds, and he could eat. That was one of the things he wanted them to know

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that it was, he wasn't a ghost, his body could function, but it was redeemed. So yeah. And that's

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what we're all doing. It's it's, so that's what salvation is for is, is according to Romans eight

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for the redemption of our bodies, which Jesus showed us by example. Don't you mean that our

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spirits were never separated from God? Cause our souls are created, aren't they? Yeah. Did I say

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soul? I meant spirit. I was going to ask that too. Okay, good. Yeah. Yeah. So soul was created,

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soul and body was created. And it's been subjected to frustration, but our spirits have not been

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separated from Lord. Yeah. Never been in rebellion and all of that. So we can think of kind of like,

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you know, the death of our spirit is in the fact that kind of like having a veil between our soul

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and our spirit. We anyway, so we, we, we, we were blinded and we couldn't see. And then the Lord

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reveals himself to us, enabling us to see and then have the ability to choose

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whether or not we want to, want to believe and receive him as the only way to the father.

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So that we're not thieves. So that we come through the, and I was talking to somebody else about this.

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I remember who I was talking to. And I think I've talked to a couple of different people. Maybe

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that's why I'm forgetting who I was talking to. But the fact that, that Jesus is the only way,

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meaning that we need to believe that he is the only way by which we're able to be,

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only way through whom our bodies can be redeemed. Because if we, if we, we can claim Jesus all we

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want and claim his name and use his name, et cetera. But unless we believe he's the only way,

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it says in the Bible, it's as if we're thieves and robbers that we're coming in. Instead of coming

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through the gate, we're coming up over the fence or whatever. And those people are the only way

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over the fence or whatever. And those people are ones that say, and then they, they,

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because they're in, it looks like by the way that they talk, by the way that they act,

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that, and they're sometimes their results as well. It can look like they're actually,

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that they, that, because they're, they are benefiting from certain principles that God

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put into place that it looks to them like, Oh, look, you know, we came through a different way,

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but we still got in. And Jesus is like, no, that you're a thief and a robber. You didn't come in

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through the, through, through the gate. You didn't come in knowing and believing and accepting and

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receiving the fact that I am the only way. Your body's going to be redeemed for whom,

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you know, we can have a relationship with the Lord. And the, sorry. Oh, sorry.

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I've got some friends over for dinner. And so I guess one of them is, is talking to their little

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kid. Um, but, um, anyway, so you remember that, and here's, here's another verse that references,

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um, the, the, the fact that references, um, the, the results that people got that are,

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were thieves and robbers, those that it says that, um, say to the Lord, Lord, didn't,

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did we not cast demons out in your name? They used the name of Jesus and they literally cast

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out demons. They didn't just, they didn't just attempt to it worked. The demons listened

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and it worked and it says, and we, and we gave to the poor and we did this and we did it all in

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your name. And what did Jesus say? He said, depart from me. I never knew you because they

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were thieves and robbers. They thought that they could get in by themselves. Um, and, uh, and just

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because it appeared that they were able to benefit from being quote unquote in the kingdom. They

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actually weren't, they were just benefiting from, um, principle from operating according

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to principles that God put into place. But.

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They did not come in through the gate of believing, accepting, and receiving the fact that they

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were unified with Jesus.

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They were unified with him.

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And therefore, that they were the bride and he was the groom, and it was because of all

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of his death on the cross and his resurrection that we were able to be restored.

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So, hey, Susan.

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Yay.

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Hey, Susan.

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We're all so excited you're here, Susan.

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Hey, Susan.

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Hey, Susan.

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Hey, Susan.

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Hey, Susan.

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Hey, hey.

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I know.

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It's so rare that I get to be here.

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I'm like, I hope you're excited.

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So did that answer your question, Natalie?

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I've never heard it explained like that, so that was awesome.

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I've never thought about the words as much, though, when you said, I will be done on earth

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as it is in heaven.

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Like, I never thought about it.

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Thank you for that.

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So did anyone have anything else?

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I do have one thing to tack on the end of that, that imagine a friend of mine said that,

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said this, I guess about a week ago, and it just kind of, it blew him away when the Lord

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told him that, and it blew me away when I heard it, and it's the idea of what, of how

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would we live our life differently, and how would we speak differently if everything that

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is because if we claim that we want to look like the Father, and we want to act like the

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Father, and that's what the Father wants us to do, is to mature, to reflect Him, and to

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look like Him, and act like Him, everything that the Father says comes true.

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It says that His word doesn't come back to Him void.

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So how would that affect how we speak?

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We think that we speak in jest.

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We think that we, that it's fun, and it's okay to tease and be sarcastic, et cetera,

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and I'm not saying that we just need to be like prudish, but my point is like we're teasing,

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or sarcasm is negative, and actually jokingly destructive.

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It's still being said.

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says comes to pass, and that's what He intends for us as well.

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He intends that we be mature to the point where everything it is that we say comes to

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pass.

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Everything we say does come to pass.

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I mean, everything we say, it says that we'll give account for every idle word.

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Yes, correct.

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And scientists say that every word ever spoken still exists somewhere in the universe.

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I think that our words do carry a lot more weight than we realize.

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Yes, and I was, at the conference that I was in last week, a lady did a presentation on

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a man, I wish I could remember his name, Dr. Emoto, I believe, E-M-O-T-O, Emoto, and he

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took pictures of water droplets that had been spoken to, or had been in rooms where words

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I don't remember how like close the person had to be to the water, and they would make

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sure that they had two separate rooms in which they would do tests.

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words could be spoken, so that it could be a bit more of an even, clear-cut test.

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It was shocking.

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how water forms when different words are spoken,

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and when the same words are spoken in different languages.

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Like, thank you in English looked different

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than thank you in German, or thank you in Japanese.

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which looks different than I hate you,

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which looks different than let's do it together,

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which looks different than, you know, whatever.

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how creation would respond to frequency,

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which is when we speak, that's frequency,

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that's literal like energy waves, you know,

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going through the earth, you know, through the air.

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he captured pictures of what water looks like

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when different things were said.

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to what it is that we're speaking.

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in quantum mechanics, that your car, for instance,

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that the things around you, material things,

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house the memory of everything that's ever happened

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and everything still houses every, as a memory,

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everything that's ever been said or experienced in the car,

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or around the car, to the car, whatever.

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I mean, the things, the understanding that opened up

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because it operates very differently than physical laws

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and it, so anyway, thought that was wild.

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and makes an impact in the world,

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because that's the whole, that's what we were intended for.

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It's not some magical thing like, oh my goodness,

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this just, wow, this makes us all uncomfortable.

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is because everything is supposed to be impacted by us.

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based off of our relationship with God

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and being in the heart of the father,

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not us deciding in our own will

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what it is that we want to do.

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soulish, you know, like selfishly, the selfish desires

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of this is what I want to do, et cetera.

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All right, let me just make sure.

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I'm getting a bit of feedback.

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So if you, when y'all need to speak,

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just feel free to unmute yourself.

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But anyway, it's not like this has been

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kind of like a side note of life.

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It's the very reason that we were put here on earth

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is to make the invisible visible.

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So that's why everything responds to us.

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And that's why there is spiritual warfare.

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It is warfare against us manifesting the spirit

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down into the visible.

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That's when we encounter spiritual warfare.

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Spiritual warfare is not a threat to our spirit.

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It threatens when the soul tries to,

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when things try to pass from the soul realm into the,

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sorry, from the spirit realm into the soul and body realms.

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And to make it actually visible.

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And so that's why we're put on earth.

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And that's why it's everything responds to us

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and why it still holds memories of things

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that have been spoken to it and around it,

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interacted with it, the intention,

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the frequency of our intention.

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when I say that.

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Literally that if you just intend something to happen,

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scientists can measure the impact of things around you

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just by having an intention towards it.

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They've studied this thing and they've reported on it.

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Where things don't have to be said,

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someone just has to have an intention towards something.

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And they can measure differences in how creation responds.

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And these are non-believing scientists

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that measure all of this stuff.

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So we are meant to bring heaven into earth.

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So that's why all creation responds to us.

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So we'd always want to put out positive things

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that reflect the heart of our father.

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we do that unless we know the heart of our Father. So that's what we're being matured into.

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But yeah, I just wanted to mention, you know, how different, get us to think, you know,

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how different would we act and what would, how different would we speak if everything

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we said came to, came to pass. We'd be more intentional with the things that we said and

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don't say. Amen, sister. Amen to all that, sister. That's right.

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So does anyone have anything else? I have a question. Yeah. I'm not sure

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if I have the wording for it in the first try, but we'll see. I guess,

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how are we, how do we operate from, from a place of rest and not anxiety and love

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when, when we're being, when we're being abused or wronged? Like what does it look like to

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both stand up for yourself and have, you know, boundaries and dignity and everything we're

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talking about manifesting, you know, heaven on earth and everything that you're doing

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while there's the opposite force, you know, coming against you. But not feeling like it's

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coming against you, like not feeling, you know, being at peace and being at rest in that very

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real reality, you know, that it's coming. So like when, you know, for me, like I'm in this,

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this, you know, legal custody, ongoing battle and just a really intense,

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what's narcissistic abuse, if you're familiar, that's the best way to term it. I'm not trying to

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like label. It's just, it's just the only way I know how to describe ongoing, you know, so there's

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ongoing threats and lies and manipulation and attempts to like literally take you down in every

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area. So what does it look like to, like, I know I'm experiencing the whole shift into this. So

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I'm not asking from a place of like, I have no idea. It's just, are there, do you have any thoughts

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on now that I'm at peace? I know the outcome. I know the father's heart. I know, you know,

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all this, it's just walking it out. Now I'm just walking it out in the, whatever it looks like to

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have to get an attorney that can take us now through a trial. Cause we're at that place of

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mediation, not having worked. And that was my last choice before trial.

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So it's like a complete, okay, here's all this clarity because mediation was the last thing that

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I was asked to try that I was required to try both from the spiritual standpoint, from what he's,

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he told me directly and what the legal requirements and that was it was over before it started. So he

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wasn't interested. So it's, you know, now that I know that there's all this clarity on, okay,

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there's, there's literally no other options, but after four and a half years of trying everything

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you can think of and $70,000 later, like there's no other options except to trust the father for

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provision for an attorney and a trial. And I am at peace with that. Yet I have to walk it out. And

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I've told him like, and this is something that has come through this shift that I haven't been

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able to share with you girls, but definitely come through this, this shift during these couple

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months is, you know, being able to say like, whatever it looks like, like, I don't, I, I'm not

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going to operate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and say, what is, what is successful

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and what is the way that, you know, I'm not going to judge how it looks. And I'm not going to judge

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how he goes about fulfilling his promise to us in this and redeeming this. I'm not, I'm not going to,

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and I've told him like, I'm relying on your character and whatever it looks like, however,

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it goes down. This was even before mediation. Like if you want to bring it through mediation,

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if you want to suddenly change his heart, God, and do a miracle there, if, if it means more,

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you know, more suffering through this fall and maybe it looks really heated and whatever,

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but I'm still holding onto your character. And when you promise, I'm not going to look at what

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happens and judge it. According to that, I'm going to judge it based on what you said and who you are.

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So that's a huge, like surrender piece already that has me just in this. Okay. So

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all there is, is like I said, you know, trusting him to provide, we've already

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spent so much money that I know $5,000 for the right attorneys, nothing to God, like I'm not like,

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you know, there's a part of me that's like, okay, God is another thing. And then it's like,

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well, you brought us this far. We're so, so, so close. So what's that, you know, to you? So

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trusting, I guess that's part of what I'm talking about, even like trusting him to provide to go up

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into a fight that I don't want to have, you know, I don't want a trial. I don't want a battle. You

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spent the thousand dollars on mediation and he said, basically threw it away the opportunity.

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So what does it look like to enter the fight that I don't want to be in that I don't consider really

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a fight, but I have to stand up for myself and my kids without feeling like I'm in a fight

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posture. And he's giving me this heart of love. That's like soft, even through, you know, the

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hate that's coming my way. It's like, I'm just weeping and worship going like, thank you for

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keeping me soft, God, like that. I can see beyond all of this with a heavenly perspective is such a

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gift because I could be so bitter right now. And I don't want to be hate. I don't want to be come

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the same thing that I've been, you know, wounded by out of my own pain. So, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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So, um, the thing is that we, you know, the anxiety and the stress comes from,

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from believing that we're, that we're abandoned alone in lack and that things aren't going that

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God will not protect us. Um, so that's what it's revealing. It's because there's, there's,

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there's degrees to which we are coming into agreement with the fact that he will provide

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for and protect us. And so that's great. The stress and the anxiety are, are revealing the

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deeper measures to which we're not in agreement with him. And that's okay because we don't have

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to, um, uh, it, this is, this is an ongoing journey of overcoming, of overcoming in the soul and in

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the spirit, in the body and revealing who it is that we are in spirit down to the soul and the

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body. And, and there's, there's a lot, there's a lot of land, there's a lot of giants in that land.

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And so we have to overcome. There's no reason for us to be discouraged or frustrated that,

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oh my word, I'm still anxious and stressed. And I thought, and I thought I've overcome so much.

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Yeah, there's, it just reveals deeper layers. And that's the whole point. God wants those layers to

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be revealed so that we can overcome them so that we can, because whether or not we acknowledge them

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and know that they're there, whether or not we acknowledge them, they're still there. So God

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wants to reveal them so that we can deal with them and so that we can overcome. So it's the

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belief that stress and anxiety is the feeling that we're under threat, that something won't happen

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the way that we want it to, that we need it to, um, and that God is going to, has abandoned us

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and left us in the place of black. Thank you. I'll be out in probably about 20 minutes or so.

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00:38:03.680 --> 00:38:11.120
Um, and, um, Sam, I think it's something else that I was going to say about that

420
00:38:11.120 --> 00:38:19.040
when you were talking, um, it's wonderful how much you are choosing to believe, um, uh, that,

421
00:38:19.040 --> 00:38:27.120
that you are keeping that soft heart with the Lord and, uh, and soft heart of compassion towards

422
00:38:27.120 --> 00:38:34.400
those that are, um, you know, that you feel attacked by under, so you come constantly,

423
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:38.320
it, we have the choice to come to greater and greater agreement that, okay, God,

424
00:38:39.200 --> 00:38:45.440
I'm choosing to believe that I'm not under threat. Um, I'm choosing to believe that,

425
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:53.680
um, I am spirit and that it cannot threaten me. It can attack me. It can try to come against me.

426
00:38:53.680 --> 00:39:00.880
Satan came against Jesus and Jesus didn't feel threatened. Um, and, uh, and he was able to deal

427
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:07.360
with it, but Jesus interacting with Satan, the way that he did when he was tempted was Jesus

428
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:12.480
overcoming and the way that he overcame and in, um, in the, uh, in the wilderness, the way that

429
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:18.960
he overcame was by the word he used God's word. And I don't mean the scripture. I mean, he used,

430
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:26.000
he used the living word that comes, that emanates from God. And, and, um, then, but

431
00:39:26.640 --> 00:39:33.120
anyway, and then, and Jesus spoke that he's like, this is who God is. I am constantly declaring

432
00:39:33.120 --> 00:39:38.880
God's character three different times. He declared different aspects of God's character that, um,

433
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:45.760
in which Jesus could say that it will, according to the word that emanates from God I'm provided

434
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:50.320
for. And then the next time it was through the, you know, through the character that emanates

435
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:56.160
from God or the word that emanates from God through his character, you know, it, um, I'm,

436
00:39:56.160 --> 00:39:59.840
I'm unprotected. And then the last one was that he was.

437
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:10.480
he was identified, who he was joined with, etc. So Jesus overcame against Satan, and that's what

438
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:18.160
we're called to do as well. And it's constantly relying on the Word and what emanates from God's

439
00:40:18.160 --> 00:40:23.200
character. That's what it is that we can rely on, and that's what allows us to overcome.

440
00:40:23.200 --> 00:40:27.360
But we're not threatened. We're not under, in other words, we're not under threat.

441
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:34.720
We cannot be overcome unless we believe that we can be. And when we believe that we can be,

442
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:44.480
it's that we're not in agreement with the truth. It doesn't change the truth.

443
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:54.560
We just don't get to benefit from the truth. Does that make sense? So anyway, did I answer

444
00:40:54.560 --> 00:40:57.920
enough of what you were talking about? I thought there were several things that I was thinking of

445
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:02.560
while you were talking, and I wanted to address them. Things like, for instance, your peace,

446
00:41:02.560 --> 00:41:08.720
the stress, the anxiety. I also wanted to talk about the fact that you can know that you're not,

447
00:41:08.720 --> 00:41:12.640
even though you're being attacked, it's very different than being actually threatened.

448
00:41:13.200 --> 00:41:17.760
Oh, there was another thing. I don't know how many of y'all know this. I think I may have

449
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:22.400
mentioned it to a few of y'all here and there. I've been through a lawsuit. I've been sued. It

450
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:29.440
was in business, something that I did not do. And it was the ugliest thing. I cannot even tell you

451
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:42.080
the amount of evil that was in that. It was, I mean, oh, it was dark. It was so dark. People

452
00:41:42.080 --> 00:41:48.320
unconnected, they were, oh, hard to describe. Anyway, I won't go into how dark it was. I mean,

453
00:41:48.640 --> 00:41:54.320
it was bad. We're talking about really long connections in all of this evil stuff

454
00:41:54.880 --> 00:42:03.120
to the underworld. It was bad. And I'm just going, what on earth is going on? Lord, will you protect

455
00:42:03.120 --> 00:42:08.240
me? I just feel like, I don't want to say a victim, but Lord, I don't know what's going on.

456
00:42:08.240 --> 00:42:14.880
And I just felt picked up and carried around. What do I do? And how do I handle this situation?

457
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:21.360
And he told me, he gave me multiple, he gave me a couple of different dreams.

458
00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:28.640
And one of them, I'll just tell you one really briefly, me and the other two people that were

459
00:42:28.640 --> 00:42:35.520
with me that were sued, I dreamt that we joined this community. And in this community, it was

460
00:42:35.520 --> 00:42:39.680
like this cave-like community. We had to go down into it. And it was this community. It was a

461
00:42:39.680 --> 00:42:44.320
prophetic dream that God was explaining something to me. We were in the middle of this really evil

462
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:52.240
lawsuit. We were at a horrible attack. The people were so bad. And the lawyer, the prosecuting lawyer

463
00:42:52.240 --> 00:42:58.560
was so bad that when I was deposed, he treated me so horribly that the judge who watched the

464
00:42:58.560 --> 00:43:04.560
recording and read this stenographer's report afterwards, raked him over the coals publicly

465
00:43:04.560 --> 00:43:10.720
in the courtroom for how he treated me and said, a lawyer should be above that. Don't ever

466
00:43:11.120 --> 00:43:17.120
insult your profession again by treating anybody like that.

467
00:43:17.680 --> 00:43:23.120
That was just one thing. It was bad. I mean, I don't know if any of y'all have been deposed, but it's like

468
00:43:23.120 --> 00:43:26.960
sometimes you just walk out of there and it's like blood dripping off of you. It's so awful.

469
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:32.400
And God gave me, like I said, God gave me this dream where we were down in this community

470
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:37.200
and the people were telling us all the rules of the community. Oh yeah, this is how it

471
00:43:37.200 --> 00:43:44.160
works and works down here. And then at strategic times, we walk over to this wall

472
00:43:45.120 --> 00:43:49.280
and when we, and I don't know if it's like once a week or once a month or once a year, I don't know,

473
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:53.760
whatever it was, we walk over to this wall and we stand facing this wall with offerings.

474
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:57.680
It were offerings of like, I don't know, I think it's food. I think it was some kind of food.

475
00:43:59.040 --> 00:44:05.200
And they said, and ghosts appear to our community. I think it was once a year maybe.

476
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:14.000
And we give them this food and they have never ceased to appear. So me and my friends are just

477
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:19.760
kind of like, well, this is weird. This is kind of creepy. I don't know about all this, but see,

478
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:24.080
we joined this community. I mean, not like on purpose, but I don't know why we were just like

479
00:44:24.080 --> 00:44:27.200
subject to it. We were just down there and we couldn't get out. I don't know what the deal was.

480
00:44:27.200 --> 00:44:33.280
It was a dream. You know, they're just weird. So we go over there, over there to the wall with

481
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:38.720
everybody else. The ghosts have never ceased to appear. The people around us are with their food

482
00:44:38.720 --> 00:44:42.400
offerings. And we're all just kind of looking around and getting kind of scared. Like, oh my

483
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:49.360
goodness, what are we, should we expect to happen? The ghosts never appeared and they had never

484
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:55.040
ceased to appear. And so the Lord was showing me in that dream. He's like, Ashley, you're in the

485
00:44:55.040 --> 00:44:59.680
middle of a lawsuit. You're in the middle of a court system.

486
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.000
and a very corrupt, a very corrupt court system.

487
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:09.000
I mean, people were in each other's pockets,

488
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:10.840
you know, and lawyers were in the judge's pockets

489
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:13.240
and vice versa, it was awful.

490
00:45:13.240 --> 00:45:15.920
And he said, Ashley, do not worry,

491
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:17.200
I'm gonna protect y'all.

492
00:45:17.200 --> 00:45:19.280
And everyone's giving you advice

493
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.080
about how things are gonna turn out.

494
00:45:21.080 --> 00:45:23.960
He said, but he said, y'all belong to me

495
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:26.080
and those things will not happen.

496
00:45:26.080 --> 00:45:28.120
And people around you will not understand it

497
00:45:28.120 --> 00:45:30.560
because it's never ceased to happen

498
00:45:30.560 --> 00:45:32.600
the way that they're telling you it's going to.

499
00:45:32.600 --> 00:45:35.240
And sure enough, it didn't.

500
00:45:35.240 --> 00:45:39.640
Well, the whole lawsuit ended very anticlimactically

501
00:45:39.640 --> 00:45:43.680
with a complete walk away.

502
00:45:43.680 --> 00:45:46.080
No money exchanged hands,

503
00:45:46.080 --> 00:45:48.560
almost essentially no agreement were made.

504
00:45:48.560 --> 00:45:49.640
I mean, it was just boom.

505
00:45:49.640 --> 00:45:52.280
We just both decided to walk away

506
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:56.840
out of a terrible, after a very ugly long deal.

507
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:59.120
And I asked the Lord, I said, Lord,

508
00:45:59.120 --> 00:46:01.680
why does this feel so anticlimactic?

509
00:46:01.680 --> 00:46:04.880
And he said, it's because you and your friends

510
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:09.000
were put there as a catalyst to trigger something

511
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:13.000
that I wanted to be dealt with, with all of these people.

512
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:18.640
And so he said, the whole lawsuit was not about y'all.

513
00:46:18.640 --> 00:46:23.640
It was to trigger issues that were going on

514
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:26.480
and agreements that these other people

515
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:31.480
had made with the evil one, with demonic spirits.

516
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:36.320
And he said, and I needed to bring it to the light

517
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:38.640
and I needed to deal with it.

518
00:46:38.640 --> 00:46:43.640
And he said, that's why it was so anticlimactic

519
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.080
because y'all weren't supposed to get restitution

520
00:46:49.080 --> 00:46:52.920
for anything, Ashley, because it wasn't about y'all.

521
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:56.120
It was about, I could trust y'all in the situation

522
00:46:56.120 --> 00:47:01.120
as a catalyst, allowing y'all and your presence

523
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:06.240
to be the trigger for me to be able to deal

524
00:47:06.240 --> 00:47:09.040
with the evil that was going on around you.

525
00:47:09.040 --> 00:47:11.080
So the reason I tell you that, Lisbeth,

526
00:47:11.080 --> 00:47:13.960
is as an encouragement that things can look

527
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:18.960
and feel very ugly, but you're not under threat.

528
00:47:19.080 --> 00:47:21.800
It can feel like you're the one in the middle of the battle.

529
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:23.880
Things were so bad in my situation.

530
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:25.560
Our lawyer was our own enemy.

531
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:28.160
It was bad.

532
00:47:28.160 --> 00:47:29.560
Your lawyer was what?

533
00:47:29.560 --> 00:47:30.920
Was our own enemy.

534
00:47:32.120 --> 00:47:35.000
Like for instance, we went to, this is just one example.

535
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:36.440
He was fighting against us.

536
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:41.440
He was making deals with the other lawyer behind the scenes.

537
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:47.320
And then he was, one time we all went to court

538
00:47:47.680 --> 00:47:49.080
and I say we all went to court,

539
00:47:49.080 --> 00:47:51.360
like me and my friends, we were appearing

540
00:47:52.240 --> 00:47:55.440
for a court session and we're sitting outside the chambers

541
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:56.720
and we're waiting and waiting and waiting.

542
00:47:56.720 --> 00:47:59.120
Our lawyer, the other side hasn't shown up.

543
00:47:59.120 --> 00:48:00.320
The other lawyer hasn't shown up.

544
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:02.520
Our own lawyer hasn't shown up.

545
00:48:02.520 --> 00:48:03.640
What's going on?

546
00:48:03.640 --> 00:48:05.480
We call our lawyer and the lawyer's just like,

547
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:07.800
yeah, yeah, that's been canceled.

548
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:09.920
Our lawyer never told us it had been canceled.

549
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:12.000
He was trying to control us.

550
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:17.360
And so he let us think that we had this court date

551
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:19.720
and he didn't let us know that it had been canceled.

552
00:48:19.720 --> 00:48:21.280
And he did it on purpose.

553
00:48:22.080 --> 00:48:22.920
It was terrible.

554
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:24.480
And that's just tiny little things

555
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:26.560
of the evil underground world

556
00:48:26.560 --> 00:48:29.760
that he was actually connected to.

557
00:48:31.080 --> 00:48:33.680
So anyway, we were just like babes and novices

558
00:48:33.680 --> 00:48:35.920
and we're just scared and we don't know what's going on.

559
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:37.400
And we just had to rely on the Lord

560
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.080
and the Lord just protected us

561
00:48:39.080 --> 00:48:40.680
when we were naive and innocent

562
00:48:40.680 --> 00:48:44.440
and had no idea of the evil that was going on around us

563
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:47.680
and how to even combat it.

564
00:48:48.680 --> 00:48:53.480
So my point is that the Lord,

565
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:57.600
if battle is the Lord's and you just rest in him,

566
00:48:57.600 --> 00:49:02.560
you don't have to try to be smarter than the system.

567
00:49:02.560 --> 00:49:05.040
You don't even have to know what's going on.

568
00:49:05.040 --> 00:49:07.560
You do try to gain wisdom.

569
00:49:07.560 --> 00:49:09.320
You do gain knowledge.

570
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:10.520
We did that.

571
00:49:10.520 --> 00:49:13.320
But at the end of the day,

572
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:16.080
you understand that it's not up to you

573
00:49:16.080 --> 00:49:17.840
and it's not your intelligence.

574
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.840
It's not your wisdom that will rule at the end of the day.

575
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:30.360
It's the Lord's provision and the Lord's protection.

576
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.080
And it's his righteousness and judgment

577
00:49:34.080 --> 00:49:36.760
that is being brought about in your situation.

578
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:41.720
So it's not you deciding this is the righteous thing.

579
00:49:41.720 --> 00:49:45.320
And so therefore I'm gonna ensure that this is accomplished.

580
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:46.960
No, the only reason that you,

581
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:48.600
the whole reason that you know that

582
00:49:48.600 --> 00:49:50.800
that it's a righteous thing

583
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:53.800
is because God has declared it to be so.

584
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:56.280
So if God's the one who's declared it to be so,

585
00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:58.920
and all we're doing is repeating his words after him,

586
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:00.320
let him fight the battle.

587
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.080
It doesn't mean that you don't do things, that you don't have activity, but the weight

588
00:50:05.080 --> 00:50:07.800
and the burden does not rest on you.

589
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:11.180
And you are not being threatened.

590
00:50:11.180 --> 00:50:19.760
It is Christ in you that is making the forces that are coming against you mad and that the

591
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:24.200
forces coming against you are trying to attack.

592
00:50:24.200 --> 00:50:25.200
So anyway.

593
00:50:25.200 --> 00:50:29.960
So when it comes to us partnering with him, like when you talked about earlier, you said,

594
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:34.580
you know, obviously if you don't believe it doesn't change the fact that something's true,

595
00:50:34.580 --> 00:50:40.520
but you said, you know it, but you don't get the benefit of it without the belief, right?

596
00:50:40.520 --> 00:50:41.960
Without the faith.

597
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:47.800
And so that plus, you know, talking just now about like decreeing and declaring, you know,

598
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:55.520
over a situation, you know, if it's, if it's his, you know, sometimes it's like, well then,

599
00:50:55.520 --> 00:51:01.760
you know, what, what is, for instance, what is, I believe is best for, for, for me and

600
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:10.600
the children, what he's promised us, you know, is not exactly clear except that we have freedom

601
00:51:10.600 --> 00:51:15.480
that we haven't had and that we have, that's going to have to look like a lot of different

602
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:20.240
things in custody, like to have that freedom that we haven't had, because we've been in

603
00:51:20.240 --> 00:51:23.460
this round and round and round we go with his power control.

604
00:51:23.460 --> 00:51:29.700
So it's like, do you declare and decree in your, you know, in your godly wisdom, what

605
00:51:29.700 --> 00:51:34.060
the spirit is, is showing you just kind of what, you know, overall that this needs, there

606
00:51:34.060 --> 00:51:38.580
needs to be liberation and, and redemption and, but I don't know, you know, does that

607
00:51:38.580 --> 00:51:43.900
mean he should still get time with the children or lots of time with the children or different

608
00:51:43.900 --> 00:51:44.900
things like that?

609
00:51:44.900 --> 00:51:49.260
Is that like, where you let, you partner with the Lord and tell him what you want and then

610
00:51:49.260 --> 00:51:54.380
he ultimately decides, you know, what, what will happen?

611
00:51:54.380 --> 00:51:59.980
Or are you decreeing and declaring it as someone with authority in him, like the specifics

612
00:51:59.980 --> 00:52:02.740
of this, this is going to happen?

613
00:52:02.740 --> 00:52:10.460
Well, you can't, we, we do declare with an element of, of authority, but it's the element

614
00:52:10.460 --> 00:52:19.940
of authority that we have matured to in him up to that point, to, and to know what the

615
00:52:19.940 --> 00:52:26.860
father's heart is, and we can come into agreement with the father's heart and declare an authority.

616
00:52:26.860 --> 00:52:34.180
This is what the father's heart is, this is what he and I have, have, have decided together.

617
00:52:34.180 --> 00:52:40.900
So, and, and if you don't know what that is, you know, you can declare it to the degree

618
00:52:40.900 --> 00:52:45.260
that, you know, the additional part, you know, the part of like, well, I don't know exactly

619
00:52:45.260 --> 00:52:47.860
what the father's heart is, you know, kind of like, kind of like you right now, you're

620
00:52:47.860 --> 00:52:51.340
just like, okay, so how much custody should he be allowed to have?

621
00:52:51.340 --> 00:52:54.940
You, you present your desires to the father.

622
00:52:54.940 --> 00:53:02.260
Again, that doing it though, from as, as much as possible from reflecting what you believe

623
00:53:02.260 --> 00:53:08.100
his character is and what his character would desire, but don't worry if, if there's some

624
00:53:08.100 --> 00:53:12.180
of your soul as well, that's just like, Lord, I really want this, I really want that because

625
00:53:12.180 --> 00:53:19.020
you are still a child, you know, and I don't mean like a young child, but I just mean you're,

626
00:53:19.020 --> 00:53:24.780
you're an offspring of the Lord that he's still maturing and therefore learning how

627
00:53:24.780 --> 00:53:30.220
to look like your father and you're learning more of who it is that your father is so that

628
00:53:30.220 --> 00:53:31.220
you can reflect his character.

629
00:53:31.220 --> 00:53:34.980
My point is you're on a journey and the Lord receives you wherever it is that you are on

630
00:53:34.980 --> 00:53:35.980
your journey.

631
00:53:35.980 --> 00:53:39.180
He doesn't look at you and go, you know what, yeah, you're, you're, you're, you're still

632
00:53:39.180 --> 00:53:44.580
lacking this much, you know, and, and in order to partner with me, you need to have come

633
00:53:44.580 --> 00:53:46.580
this far and you're just not there yet.

634
00:53:46.580 --> 00:53:56.780
No, the Lord knows that you are going through this to the right now where, sorry, I'm trying

635
00:53:56.780 --> 00:54:00.420
to think about it, how you grammatically say what I'm, what I'm, what I'm thinking

636
00:54:00.420 --> 00:54:07.180
of in my head, but he's very aware of at what point you are on the, on the journey of believing

637
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him, of partnering with him, hearing his heart, understanding his spirit, speaking to him

638
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with, with authority.

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It's, it's, it's a process.

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It's a process of kind of like, of trying like, okay, Lord, I think this is coming into

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agreement with you.

642
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And I don't really know if this is your heart, but this is what it is that I want.

643
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And I'm going to present it to you.

644
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This is, this is my heart's desire.

645
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This is what I'm currently feeling and believing right now.

646
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I don't know how much this is a reflective of your character, but I, I'm blending, you

647
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know, Lord, I choose your character over what it is I want.

648
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Like what Jesus prayed in the garden, your will, not my will be done.

649
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This is what I, this is what I desire, Lord.

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If it, if it be possible, would you allow this cut to pass for me?

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However, your will not mine be done.

652
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He still presented what he wanted.

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Jesus asked that the cup would pass.

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passed from him. He asked that it would. And my goodness, that's what brought us salvation.

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He asked that he wouldn't have to go through what he went through, that the cup would pass

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from him. But he said, but I choose your will over mine. And so if Jesus can present what it

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is that he was and what he was desiring. And I don't believe that Jesus was abandoning us

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in that and desiring to abandon us. I believe what it was is he was honestly presenting his

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soul to the Lord because it says that his spirit was willing, but his flesh was weak.

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I personally do not believe that he was talking about the disciples when he said that. When he

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was going back to the disciples and he said, oh, you're still asleep. He's like, you need to stop

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falling asleep. I'm asking you to stand guard and watch for me because he said, the spirit is

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willing, but the flesh is weak. Personally, I believe, not everybody believes this. I personally

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believe he was talking about himself. His spirit was willing, but his flesh was weak. He went and

665
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he was struggling to the point that he sweated drops of blood. Scientifically and medically,

666
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that means that you're under so much distress that the capillaries next to your sweat glands

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burst because you're under so much pressure. And then as they burst, they enter the sweat glands,

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and then you end up sweating blood. And he was under that much stress. And he asked in this

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past for me. So if Jesus can present the reality of his soul and still not sin, then we can as well.

670
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Point is, it's a journey. So don't just stand in what authority that you know that you have.

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Try to act and look like your father, who it is that you believe that your father is. And your

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father will not condemn you for it, for being in the middle of a journey and not fully knowing

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what you're doing and why and how to do it, et cetera. So just operate in the degree that you

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know so far. And it's not that he gives you grace for it. He just closes his eyes and just like,

675
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okay, well, I'll just pretend I didn't see that. He's like, no, you're in the middle of learning

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how to do it. And I'm walking with you, and you're learning in the middle of it. You're

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not learning it, and then you're going to do it. No, you're in the middle of it, learning how to

678
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do it. And God's very aware of that. So you're in a safe place to be able to be in the middle

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of the journey. So you're not going to, you just keep your eyes on the Lord and position your heart

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to his will, rely on his character and say, God, no matter the result, I believe that you are who

681
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it is that you say that you are. I'm asking that you reveal who it is that you are, so I can come

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into agreement with it. And I'm choosing that over everything. And while choosing that over

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everything, I'm going to try to be you. I'm going to, I think that you do these kinds of things. I

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think I'm seeing you do these kinds of things. I think I'm seeing, I hear you saying these kinds

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of things. So that's what I'm going to do and say. So that's a bit hopeful. I mean, I know it's not

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an exact answer of a formula, but this is a relationship and it's a process.

687
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Oh, that's exactly what I want. Thank you so much. It's so,

688
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so makes sense. And I love some of the words you're putting to the process and just,

689
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it's comforting to hear you. I feel like I should share this with you. That's why I am

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the response that it's comforting to hear you talk about the process.

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Because I think, you know, even as we're trying to shift, not trying, even as we are

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shifting into rest, you know, that word try, you even use the word try. Like it's okay in

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our relationship with him that we try things. That's not the same as striving, which we're not

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wanting to do anymore. And so, but it's good to hear you talk about the process and some of the,

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the trial and error. Because I think even as we shift out of rest, sometimes we're going,

696
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well, I'm not supposed to try. And so, you know, yeah, that made a lot of sense. Thank you.

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Yeah. And if we end up trying, cause I find myself in the middle of trying and striving

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all the time and I just have grace for myself and just know, okay, well that I, because I

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understand I'm learning and God doesn't expect me to wake up every morning, hoping that this day,

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that today, let's see how far, how long Ashley gets doing it perfectly. No, he's just like,

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let's it's another day, more process.

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01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.760
more learning, more overcoming,

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01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:07.040
more moving into greater and greater freedom, so.

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Yes, yes, amen, so good.

705
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Well, it's good to see everybody.

706
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I have a table full of friends out there

707
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:21.480
that are waiting to cook my steak

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01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:25.120
for me to join them so they can eat dessert.

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So I will leave y'all,

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but it is good to get to visit with all of y'all.

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Thanks for making it tonight.

712
01:00:30.640 --> 01:00:32.880
It's so exciting to get to see so many of y'all,

713
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:36.600
especially some of y'all I haven't gotten to see in a while.

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So I hope y'all have a good night and take care

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01:00:41.600 --> 01:00:45.160
and y'all reach out if you need something.

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Anyway, love y'all, love you guys.

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Good to see you.
