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Sure. So I took that as being from the Lord. So I'm thinking through it of like, okay, so apparently

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the way I wrote the details isn't how it's supposed to work. And it needs to work a little different.

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So, I mean, cause I was, I was looking to, I was, I spent a few hours on it, you know,

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make sure that everyone had all the information they needed. Hey Steph, being sure everyone had

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all the deals that they would need to be able to make informed decisions about what it is they

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didn't want to do and the, and the amount of money for accommodations and all that good stuff.

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And, and it, and the file got corrupted. I'm like, how does that happen? I mean,

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like literally within minutes, I closed the laptop, went upstairs, opened the laptop,

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said files corrupted. I'm like, okay, Lord. Okay. I had to think through it a little bit

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and like, try to recover it. And it, and I could never figure out how to recover it.

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And, and cause I've worked with corrupted files before, you know, for, for years for, you know,

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how to uncorrupt them and whatever. Nope. So I don't have to kind of start all over. So anyway,

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so nothing's up, but yeah, I plan to do it. And then there's like three phases I'm going to do.

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I'm going to do it like all, maybe like within a day of each other mentioned it's the rest intensive.

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And then I'm going to, cause I want to give them the first, well, I say that I'm the way that I

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have it set up or really don't have to do them first. That's true. I do them at the same time

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because I'm offering them a, something, something special. And then, and then after that so,

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so because I'm not offering that same special thing to people that I'm going to post the details

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about to on my personal page, then I can post that same. There's a good special group that I

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said that, Hey, if you, if you let me know that you're interested, then I, when I first announced

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the save the date on my personal page, I said, if you let me know you're interested, I'll make sure

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that you're the first people that get to know about all the information. And so then I'll

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mention it to them probably at the same time that I do rest intensive, cause those are two different

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deals, so to speak two different details. And so they won't, they won't they won't conflict,

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but then at the same time. Yeah, I'll do them at the same time because their accommodations

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and their deals don't conflict. And I had to think through that just now. And then the day

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after though, I left the, the people who let me know that they were interested on my personal

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page the day after I, I posted all the information to them to get them approximately 12, 24 hours to,

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to make their choice first, then I'll post it to everybody. So, but I've already gotten a lot

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of interest. And so I'm excited about that. So we will just see, I've already gotten more interest

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than I was expecting. And so food, food, so the food Scott was busy. And so everyone is,

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is going to take care of their own food, but I am going to provide some catering options to bring

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stuff in where I just have it. I have it delivered and everyone has anybody who would like it signs

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up, pay for it. And I'm going to, I'm going to have them do it before they get there so that I

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can have all the stuff and I'm not in the middle of doing that kind of thing. And then I'll have

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like a friend or a family member of mine and help me during the event. So I don't have to

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think about it. So I'm trying to set up as much as possible beforehand so that during the thing,

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if I can just have a family member, like make sure that to call so-and-so the day of and make

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sure that they're still on schedule to deliver all of this stuff I knew. Firehouse subs, like

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firehouse subs does a half a sub, a chip and a drink. I mean, so it's like, there are a lot of.

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Yeah, exactly. See stuff like that. I was thinking things like the subway or Jimmy Don's or fire

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subs or, or like Chipotle or, you know, just something like that. And then, so some places

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that already have catering so-called baked into their catering options and setting all this up

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before I even get there and the scheduling, which day and which lunch. So the closer that it gets,

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I'll have people sign up as opposed to, and then send me the money. So it's all done beforehand.

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And then if they don't want to do that, that's fine. I'm letting everyone know that the, that

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all of their accommodations on site have kitchen. They have their own refrigerator. They can go to

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their grocery store on their own or bring their own stuff on the airplane, whatever they want to do.

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So that's why I'm doing it. Cause Scott was busy and it ends up being fine, you know, to.

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to provide people this opportunity to not have to provide their own food. They'll still pay for it.

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I'll coordinate it, but it does have to be before we even get on site. So I'm doing it that way. So

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it'll provide people with an option, you know, to make it easier on them, but in order to take

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advantage of the easier, it needs to be done before we all get together. So anyway, so that

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is the plan. Yeah. But yeah, I thought that was kind of interesting about the file. So I'll get,

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I'll get it out pretty, I'll get it out soon. Well, and then at what point, like if we just

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have somebody who we think would like to come, I mean, when are they allowed to sign up?

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Okay. Yes. So as soon as I wanted to make sure that you knew that to make sure that,

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that, that people feel free to invite whoever they want to. The only special thing is that

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I have the coordinations for those, for three cabins and in the lodge, but then everything else

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is, you know, booked the way you and I discussed this, you know, and other options.

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Yeah. Yeah. And so therefore that can just, as soon as I publish it on my personal page,

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you know, people are people in the rest intensive are already talking to family members and friends

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that they want to bring, you know, and so, I mean, you could do the same with your,

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with people that, you know, that you typically reach out to that like,

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that like conferences at your place. You're welcome to do that. I don't have any restrictions

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on any of that. Do you have a schedule and a syllabus of what things you're going to cover?

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No, not yet. I was, that was the thing after the, after getting out the details about the

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accommodations and the, and the registration, all of that, then I was going to, I don't want to

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mention too much about what I'm going to do. I can mention some things, but there are a few

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things that are like the, my standard stuff that I cover that I can go ahead and, and, and, and,

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you know, post and tell people because that's already stuff that I already have together,

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but there are some special new things that the rest intensive, even the rest intensive people

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don't know about and the rest intensive people haven't heard me speak on that I want to do,

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but that stuff, I'm still kind of planning about which of those things I'm going to add, but like

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the majority, like I, I would have enough to be able to tell other people what I'm doing, you know,

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like it's all my normal stuff. Doing the dream book thing or have you not thought that far? Oh, I, I

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really appreciate you sending that to me. No, I am, I, I'm not going to do that, but I mean,

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I thought it was a great idea and it's a really, really neat resource. That's just not the direction

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that I'm going to go with it, but I haven't quite figured out everything that, how exactly it is

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that it's that and everything's going to work, but I do have a particular direction. Okay. And so,

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yeah, but thank you so much for saying that. I thought that that was really, that, that was a

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really, really good idea. That was really neat that you had that, that you've been to a conference

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that provided that. It's really suited you to like mock it up and send it to me. I'm not doing the,

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I'm not going to let anybody have the bunks so that if you end up getting more people,

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you will know that you've got that option. Oh, okay. All right. Well, I hate for you to have

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to do that, but that's not, that's not something we normally, that really is more conference-y stuff.

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So yeah, so it's not a big deal. Okay. All right. Okay. Well, good. Hey, Misty.

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Okay. So does anyone have anything that we could, that, that they wanted to start us off with

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for tonight? Any questions or anything?

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Everybody come on for hoping somebody else to have a question.

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I don't know. I could, there's something I could start us off with.

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So I would ask you, how are you, is meditation part of what you do?

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Um, no, I have talked about it. Oh, you mean me personally? I have done meditation. Yes.

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But I haven't talked about it in, I don't know, six, eight months in the rest intensive.

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So it was, yes, that was like probably April, probably the first group that I mentioned some

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stuff about meditation. Um, but, uh, and it's probably like an, an old Q and a, um, from April,

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but I know I,

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I haven't, I haven't done much meditation.

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The, the only thing that I talk about related to meditation

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is, is getting the noise to stop.

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There are a few, a few different things,

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a few different, a few different like modalities

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or whatever methods of doing the meditation

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that I recommend.

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And the whole purpose of them

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is to practice quieting the noise,

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which gets us practice in,

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in stopping being driven so much

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by the external and making willful, intentional decisions.

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And so that's what I talked about related to meditation.

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It was things like how to stop thinking thoughts.

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And then, and then I think that there was something

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that I did and I'd have to remember

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something that I did related to thoughts.

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Oh, that's what it was related to thoughts

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where you allow thoughts to come up

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and you just kind of watch them and you don't judge them.

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how to expose your, how to teaching us to not be afraid

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of ourselves.

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And it's not that we like everything that comes up

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and it's not that everything that comes up

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is beautiful and godly and whatever,

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but it's to, to not be afraid of them

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and to realize that we're above them.

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And we can choose that we're seated in heavenly places

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and that our seat of our identity is in our spirit.

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And so, as opposed to being so afraid

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that we, of experiencing a thought

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and feeling threatened by it.

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So it kind of gives us practice of being exposed

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to something without, and practice not being triggered

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to feeling threatened.

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So I have that one as well,

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but that's a very long time ago.

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So, and there might've been something

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about focusing on the Lord.

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Some of it though, I mentioned, in the very first one,

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the love affair of seeing Jesus come

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and sitting and visiting with us

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and then just looking him directly in the eye.

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That's really a meditation in a way

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because you're focusing, you're focusing on him.

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And so, that's one that I've kept

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and I've continued to talk about.

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The other ones I haven't talked about much.

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I did in, like I said, a Q and A,

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I think being someone asked me a question,

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is meditation okay?

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What part of it, how could you do meditation

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in a safe way where you're not inviting

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and exposing yourself to evil spirits?

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You're exposing yourself instead of to the Lord.

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How do you protect yourself?

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How do you do meditation within the blood

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as opposed to just like through another gateway?

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So that's what I talked about related to meditation.

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And those things really did help me in the beginning

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when I was first learning to shift more into rest.

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Practically, like in my daily life,

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those types of meditations really did help

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because it taught me how to gain,

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I don't wanna say control, but intention.

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Take back control of myself and directing my intention

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as opposed to being victim to my feelings

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or a thought that came to me

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or the noise of my environment.

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But to choose to, mm-mm, doesn't matter.

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I'm my own individual and I can choose.

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It taught me choice, taught me how to take back

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my own control of my own intention.

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So I suppose it would be a good teaching to do.

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I hadn't thought about that.

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So I'm glad you brought it up.

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Hey Alana.

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Hi.

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So just saying, does anyone have anything else?

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I don't know, I'm trying to think,

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but I've been talking to people about this week.

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Things come up.

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I would say like most things have been pretty good.

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I have noticed this week,

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I don't know why, but my pain has been a little bit worse.

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And I actually, you know what?

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I know what part of it is.

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I was just thinking,

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cause I'm like, there's a root to this.

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I've been worried about my daughter.

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She's five, for those of you that don't know, and she's been struggling with mental health stuff.

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She's so joyful. 90% of the time, the happiest little girl in the world, 10% of the time,

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she sinks really low. She's so sad. She can't get out of it. She gets angry. She is frustrated.

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She's a perfectionist in a lot of ways. She gets really frustrated with herself when she doesn't

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do something right. She likes to control. She wants things to look a certain way. I know she's

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five, but she's stronger in these areas than I've noticed in a lot of other kids. I could say to her,

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Avea, stop it. She thinks that's shouting. She starts to cry. She beats herself up. She hides

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in the corner. She's so down. It's usually about something that's worthy of me speaking to her

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like that, which is not very often. The other day, I was really struggling. I don't think she knows

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what this means fully, but she said she was really sad. She said, Mommy, I don't even want to live.

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Like I said, I don't think she fully understands what that means,

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but she just gets down like that. I've struggled. I contacted a counselor that I know so I could

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talk to her about it. I have an appointment with her. Then I contacted a children's center here

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in my city that was referred by my MD. It's like they help kids that are struggling a little bit.

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I contacted them, but part of me wonders if it's some kind of generational thing because I know

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I've historically had some of these tendencies for sure. I don't know if I'm supposed to pray

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away this generational thing. I love her to pieces. We treat her well. She's never been

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abused. She's never been hurt. She's just loved so much. I don't think it's necessarily something

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we're doing wrong, although we have blind spots. I'm open to hearing if I could do something better,

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but at the same time, I feel like there's a big spiritual element. I want to know how to

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help her. I think you're right. Something like that from a little five-year-old

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is when you said it, that's something that a lot of times, and I'm not trying to make this

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sound very, very scary because there are ways for us to deal with it because we're spirit.

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The reason why those are the types of things that the demonic whispers to children,

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whispers to people, but a phrase like that, that a child doesn't understand

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what they're saying, something like that is there are things that the demonic can whisper

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whispers to people, regardless of how old or young they are. They can even do it to children

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that can't even articulate themselves, even in words. Before they've learned to speak,

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they can hear these whispers in their body and their emotions respond. You can watch children,

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even in hospitals, dip down. They're like babies because they're listening to things because we're

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more than what we can funnel through our and articulate through our consciousness. Anyway,

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I didn't want to scare you with that. The point is we're above that and we can take authority in

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that. In other words, you're right. It's not natural. That's not wrong. The good thing is,

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yes, it can be a generational thing about something that's carried through in the DNA

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or whatever, but still it is spiritual and it can be dealt with spiritually. You as a parent

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have spiritual authority in your home and can take in the spirit, you can take that authority

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and take that position intentionally. You have it, but you have to take it intentionally

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and over your child and whatever. I've had experience with children in my life that I

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would be around and I would take authority when I would babysit them.

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because they would talk about the fact they would be afraid because monsters would come out.

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Or they would talk to me in the daylight about, oh, monsters that come and visit them.

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I'm like, oh, really?

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You know, what do these monsters look like? And they would describe them to me.

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They would tell me what the monsters would tell them. And so it depends on the child.

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It depends on what's going on. Sometimes the monsters could very well be angels

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because the children don't seem afraid of them.

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or it could be an angel.

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And the fact that I mean, there's a reason why adults had to be told,

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do not be afraid, you know, when they would see an angel.

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So in other words, and so that's why the kids aren't afraid.

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But the only thing they could think of is like, well, it didn't look like a human.

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You know, so the thing is that they get visited by

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by we all did. I did when I was a child.

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And it wasn't until I was an adult that I realized those footsteps

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I was hearing, hearing on the carpet were spiritual.

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And in fact, you can alter using the rest intensive.

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She and I used to sleep in the same room.

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for like seven years.

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And we and neither one of us ever talked about the fact until maybe like a year

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or two ago that we both heard footsteps on the carpet at night.

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I thought it was in my imagination as a child.

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when we compared stories and like, wait just a second.

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So, I mean, the point is that you can take

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that as an adult now realizing that when I when I babysit children

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and they start telling me about the fact that they're afraid,

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even if they don't tell me they're afraid, I I take spiritual authority

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before when I put them into it, when I put them to bed,

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before I leave them alone or whatever.

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to be able to declare that angels come in and protect them,

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to call them forth and to protect them.

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And anyway, so the thing is, it's not anything to be afraid of.

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I just wanted to give what I think might very well be what's going on.

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It's very normal.

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I mean, I'm not saying I'm not making it light.

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I'm just saying that is very usual.

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We're not aware of the spiritual activity that goes on in all of our lives,

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including with children.

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And so therefore, being very aware of it, we can be intentional about it.

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Not in fear. It's like, oh, my goodness, I hope I can take authority.

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Absolutely not.

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We come in and we expect it to happen because we say so.

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it will obey us because it's meant to.

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And there's no reason for us to come in like all of this demanding all this,

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you know, yelling down and spiritually demanding fire and brimstone.

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That is someone who feels threatened and afraid that unless they work up

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enough emotion and they talk loud enough and forcefully enough,

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it's not going to happen.

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Hogwash, we shift into who it is that we are in our identity

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and in our authority, and we speak with that authority

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and we expect it to be done because we've we've intended it to.

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So it's and you will notice a shift.

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I noticed it with the children that I babysat.

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Children, I prayed over whatever.

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There was a very distinctive shift with them

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that they were because I just took the authority.

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So like I said, it's nothing to be afraid of because of who it is

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that we are.

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The thing is that we have to realize who it is that we are and speak from that

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place and that everything's taken care of because it's supposed to.

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It's best to work according to those laws.

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So, yeah. Yeah.

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So then if that's the case, because I love that, what

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what do you think would be best for me to kind of.

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Like shift into exactly or say

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or to her or out loud with her or in my head or what do you think?

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Well, it would just be things such as, you know, understanding first,

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you know, shifting into our identity, recognizing and acknowledging

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who it is that you are and and that and that God is everything

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that he says that he is and expanding yourself internally,

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expanding yourself into to receive that and to stand in that place

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without having to think in your head, OK, wait a minute.

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OK, so what are the what's the list?

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OK, God says he's righteous. God says he's holy.

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You don't need you don't need to like go through all of those things

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if you need to in order to kind of like shift into, OK, what direction

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is my mind going or what direction?

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What is it that I'm supposed to believe?

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But but once you really kind of have that place, you just shift into,

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no, I'm going to receive it.

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I'm going to choose it.

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And now I can start acting like it without having to articulate to yourself

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what it is that you're believing.

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I'm believing I'm righteous. I'm believing God is this, that, and the other.

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You just know, this is who I am. And I have, I'm anchored in that.

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And it's from that position that I can, uh, you can, um, ask the, you know, ask the angels

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to come in. And this is what I do with children.

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I do, I do pray it out loud, uh, as you know, ask the angels to come in and it's around

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you and, and protect you and to fill the room with light and, you know, all of the things

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that, that kids like, and they're really pleasant. Oh, you know, give you, give you good dreams

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and tuck you in. And I don't know, just things that make them

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feel very calm. But it, but when I'm saying all those things,

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the position of my heart is I'm giving the angels direction and I, and I, and, um, and

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it's, and I'm not, not as if I'm separate as if I'm like, um, oh, well, I'm hoping they're

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going to do it. No, I'm giving them intentional direction.

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Always in a very honoring way because angels are to be honored.

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We're not like dictators demanding to them what it is that they do and don't need to,

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because that's not how, that's not how a godly King who looks like our father acts.

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We always honor that, honor those things. But at the same time, we, we give them direction.

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They're not going to, they're not going to rebel against us.

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They were sent to service and they delight to do so.

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And so we honor them and then just get them direction, like, you know, it, um, in the

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intention of our heart, you know, okay, we'll surround them and do this and do that.

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And then we'll, you know, I, you know, declare certain things like, um, yeah, I talk, I speak

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over them sometimes say, you know, you are not going to be afraid tonight.

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You are going to have nothing but pleasant dreams.

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You are going to, as opposed to, so in other words, you hear everything I'm talking about

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is positive as opposed to, oh, well, you know, any monsters come, well, then this is

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what's going to happen.

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And I can, I command that no monsters come in here and no, you know, there's no need

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to be talking about all of the negatives, no need to be focusing on the negative and

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battling it with enough light and enough truth that pushes out the darkness.

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Um, so the only thing I would say is if, when you're doing all of that, if there's a part

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of you in the sensitivity of the spirit, if you think that you're struggling, um, to if,

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uh, how would I read that?

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You're struggling to believe it.

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You're struggling to choose it without battling it.

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Then I, I have, and I've done this myself before.

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If I realize, you know what, for some reason, my faith is struggling and I need to give

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it a bit of a, a bit of help, then I do face the darkness and I tell it that it has no

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right.

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I do, or I say to my head or, or whatever.

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Um, but that is kind of like a tool for myself.

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If for whatever reason I'm struggling and I need a bit of help, then I grab a tool of

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spiritual warfare and I tell them, look, I'm standing in one place.

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I know who I am.

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I, and you know who I am and therefore you have no authority, but I, I try to, um, it,

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I prefer to focus on the positive, but I do have that to fall back on.

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If my soul is struggling, um, then I, then I turn to, to the evil and tell it what I

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think and tell it how it can't do it because I'm a child of God.

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So I just wanted to mention that because I like to make sure that people have options.

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If they're struggling with something to know that, Hey, here's, here's the fallback.

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Here's, here's another thing that does work, spiritual warfare, head to head, you know,

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my knowledge, mature knowledge, you know, you know, the spirit and, um, and, and you

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can do that too.

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So I do it.

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If ever I'm struggling at a particular night in my faith, I'll turn and I'll battle the,

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the, um, evil cause it helps my soul.

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It's a leverage for my soul to shift into the faith.

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Yeah, no, that's good.

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And so basically it's just a simple shift.

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Like when she's really sad, when she's taking things really hard, it's like out loud or

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in my head, just, I know I can shift into my identity in him.

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Um, but with her, like, I can say, you know, I love you and, you know, it's okay, sweetie,

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you know, that kind of stuff.

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But would I say anything about, you know, sweetie, I'm just going to pray right now

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or something.

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Like, I don't know what to actually say, if, if I should be saying something to comfort

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her, or if me just shifting into.

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You know, my identity in him is enough. Okay. Two things you absolutely can talk to her.

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Cause see everything I'm talking about. I just think about like at night,

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cause that's a lot of times when kids are, uh, when, um, kids feel very,

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especially vulnerable or whatever, but yeah, you're right.

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Like in the middle of the day or whatnot. Um, the, I do, I do both of those things.

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I pray with them. And then I also shift into my identity and interact with them like that.

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You know, how I was talking about, um, uh, you know, not talking to somebody,

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uh, in their brokenness and addressing them down here, like that sadness and not addressing it,

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but talking to this person and how, when we talk to this person and we interact with them like this,

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we give them what it is we, they think that they're lacking.

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So instead of telling them that I love them, though, I do say it.

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My instead of focusing my intention on and, and my interaction with them on my words and trying

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to convince them, I actually give it to them. So I, I intentionally, um, sacrifice in my,

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myself by giving them something of me. I love them. I whatever. And then how, when I'm loving them,

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what, uh, what action does that prompt me to in the moment? What words does that prompt me to say

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in the moment to them? Not trying to convince them. I'm not talking about like trying to come

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up with all of these things like, oh, what worse does that prompt me to say of like, oh, well,

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um, you know, don't you realize you're this and don't you realize you're that now that's trying

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to convince someone. And that really won't, that'll only go so far. Uh, it's not that that's

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not good. It's just, it's only going to go so far. What they need is they need to be touched

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in their spirit. So, um, I, I love on them and I just, and I just figure out how to actually

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spiritually be pouring into them at that time. And, um, and then, okay, well, now that I'm pouring

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into them, what is it that naturally comes up with me to do with them or to, or to say to them

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or whatever. And then in addition to that, I do talk to them and I pray to them and pray with

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them. Hey, so let's pray. I'm sorry that you're not feeling that you're not feeling good. And then

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I'll just let's whenever we're not feeling good, whenever we're feeling sad or whenever we're

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feeling aggregate out, uh, angry, we don't have to be afraid. We don't have to be afraid that

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we're sad. We don't have to be afraid that whatever, in other words, reminding them,

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helping them know from their parent that they are not something to be afraid of.

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Even if that's something negative is coming up out of them. Uh, and, uh, that they are not,

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in other words, what this is doing is they're learning from their parent,

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that there is no need for them to feel intrinsically ashamed of themselves, because that's

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where things like, like the, the whole thing of like, you know, if you say stop it and then they

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retreat, there's this, there's this thing that they're battling with. Uh, there's something

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inherently wrong with me. And they, and so it's trying, so it's instead trying to, um, teach the,

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teach them, Hey, look, I fully accept you and receive you when you're sad, when you're angry,

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and when you're fearful, and there's no reason, even if you're sad, angry, or fearful for you to

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be afraid of yourself, mommy's not afraid of you, you know, and you don't need to be afraid of you.

427
00:33:42.800 --> 00:33:46.560
We're going to, so we're going to pray the Lord about it. If you're sad or angry, let's talk to

428
00:33:46.560 --> 00:33:52.400
God about it. And let's ask him, now help me not to be angry. I'm not to be sad. So to also let

429
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:58.960
him know when we have negative feelings, we are not so bad that God doesn't want to hear from us

430
00:33:59.600 --> 00:34:07.120
that we go to him. When we feel negative, when we have this scared, uh, when we have negative

431
00:34:07.120 --> 00:34:12.159
feelings, as opposed to let's try to deal with them so that we can come back to God again.

432
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:17.520
It's like, no, no, no. When you feel negative, there's this openness that we can teach the

433
00:34:17.520 --> 00:34:23.040
children to have of like, okay, God, God, God, this is how I feel. You know, I don't know why

434
00:34:23.040 --> 00:34:31.679
I feel this way to let him know. He's he, that they, um, that he's a safe place when they're

435
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:38.239
feeling negative. Um, as opposed to the fact that, well, God only, only wants to, God doesn't like

436
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:43.199
the negative and he just wants to, he wants you to deal with that before he wants to deal with you.

437
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:50.320
No, no, no. That's not great of you. You know, being negative, we can deal with the negative.

438
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:55.360
He can deal with negativity as opposed to us dealing with it in order to make us pleasing

439
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:59.840
to him. And I know when we had negative, that's, you know, we come to God.

440
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:06.080
because the negative gets dealt with in the presence of God. The negative gets released

441
00:35:06.080 --> 00:35:12.160
and removed. So he is the healing for the negative, as opposed to something we need to fix

442
00:35:12.160 --> 00:35:18.000
before we go to him. So stuff like that helps. Because it's intrinsically an idea that there's

443
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:25.440
something about me that's wrong, that shame, and it's starting to show the release of shame.

444
00:35:25.600 --> 00:35:29.520
I mean, it's a shame to the Lord.

445
00:35:30.160 --> 00:35:35.280
Yeah, no, it's definitely shame. You named it. I didn't know how to name it. But yeah,

446
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:41.200
she gets these shame attacks almost, which is obviously the enemy and it's not God. So

447
00:35:41.200 --> 00:35:44.400
for me to help her with that, I just shift into the spirit. And I'm like,

448
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:50.480
sweetie, it's okay. I love you. And I'm going to pray for you. And you know, you can be in this

449
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:55.760
space and God loves you. And I love you. And that's okay type of thing. And is that yeah,

450
00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:00.080
that's okay. Right? Just to kind of like speak those words over her and then pray.

451
00:36:00.080 --> 00:36:07.120
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And here's a huge, huge, huge, huge thing. Huge for children. And it's hard

452
00:36:07.120 --> 00:36:11.760
for us because we don't like being around negativity. And we don't want to feel like

453
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:17.440
we are enabling it. So what we tend what people tend to do is they tend to isolate children

454
00:36:18.240 --> 00:36:24.720
when they're upset, you know, hey, you go think about it. Or you, you know, if you know,

455
00:36:24.720 --> 00:36:31.520
I'll put you in timeout or whatever. What that teaches the child is that teaches separation

456
00:36:31.520 --> 00:36:38.080
from relationship based on their behavior. And that, that really solidifies shame

457
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:45.600
is and that's where we can get this whole idea that unless I behave a particular way,

458
00:36:46.160 --> 00:36:54.640
God and other people are then I'm abandoned. I'm abandoned based on my behavior. And my behavior

459
00:36:54.640 --> 00:37:00.560
is is revelatory of the fact that something's intrinsically wrong with me. And the least the

460
00:37:00.560 --> 00:37:08.960
less that we can separate relations that we can keep them keep from separating them from our

461
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:15.520
presence. And then from our relationship, when they feel negative, the lot of the more that they

462
00:37:15.520 --> 00:37:25.200
will heal from from internalizing correction as shame. Does that make sense? Yeah. So what do you

463
00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:30.560
do? Because like, she doesn't, we don't separate her from us very often, like once in a while,

464
00:37:30.560 --> 00:37:34.480
she'll get a timeout. She used to get more, but now she doesn't really get them very often. But

465
00:37:35.200 --> 00:37:40.560
like, what would you do instead, if she's acting out, and she, like, say, you know, she hits one

466
00:37:40.560 --> 00:37:46.080
of us, which she doesn't do very often, again, but like, she does, right. And we say, you know,

467
00:37:46.080 --> 00:37:49.920
go to timeout or she or she hits the cat or something, right? Like, we're like, you need

468
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:56.800
to go timeout. What what do we do instead? Um, well, I mean, every child's a bit different how

469
00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:02.560
you deal with it. But here's some like possibilities is, instead of separating the child,

470
00:38:03.200 --> 00:38:10.640
the child stays with the parent, but the child doesn't get to do what it's been doing, whether

471
00:38:10.640 --> 00:38:14.160
it's a good thing or a bad thing that they were doing, like if they just get a kick, kick the

472
00:38:14.160 --> 00:38:17.840
cat with them, you know, I don't know, but I'm talking about like, if they're playing,

473
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:23.440
if they're playing with something, you can't play with that, you can still be with me,

474
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:30.000
but you can't play with that. And instead, I want you, I want you to sit here, and we'll be and and

475
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:33.920
I don't know, they can talk to you while you're making dinner, or they can, you know, for five

476
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:40.000
minutes, or, you know, because she's only five or so that the attention span so long, or the,

477
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:49.600
the, in other words, that whatever thing that they're doing, isn't a isn't seen as a punishment.

478
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:55.600
But they don't get to but they see a difference between what it is that they were being allowed

479
00:38:55.600 --> 00:39:01.040
to do, versus what it is that they're doing now. Like, in other words, okay, well, there's something

480
00:39:01.040 --> 00:39:07.440
that's changed, like you were getting to play with your toys, can't play with your toys. But I'm not

481
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:12.720
separating you from me, there's nothing wrong with you. Don't I'm just trying to get you to not do

482
00:39:12.720 --> 00:39:17.920
this behavior anymore. So and then whatever you want it like, like, okay, well, let's, you know,

483
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:21.760
you've got some options here, you can't do this for the next 10 minutes, 15 minutes, five minutes,

484
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:27.600
whatever it is. But, you know, I'm making dinner. So I so sit here with me, because I like to have

485
00:39:27.600 --> 00:39:33.040
you with me. And then, you know, it's you can you can color, or you can do this. I don't know what

486
00:39:33.040 --> 00:39:36.960
it would be. I don't, I don't know if like, coloring is just so wonderful. It would feel

487
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:41.440
like a like a reward. I'm just trying to come up with something or if it would be something like,

488
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:48.080
hey, I just want you to sit here. But sometimes it can even be silent, that I just need you to

489
00:39:48.080 --> 00:39:54.000
sit here and you can't. And or if you think that that's not going well, and you think, well, no,

490
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:59.760
I think that even though she gets to stay in my presence, the demand that she be silent.

491
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.120
still feels like separation, and that may not work with Aveya.

492
00:40:05.120 --> 00:40:07.720
And it might be something where you don't mention anything,

493
00:40:07.720 --> 00:40:09.280
like she can't talk.

494
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:12.520
But it's like, you can't do what you were doing.

495
00:40:12.520 --> 00:40:15.200
And you need to do this right now.

496
00:40:15.200 --> 00:40:17.320
But you get a choice.

497
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:19.160
You can color, or you can do this.

498
00:40:19.160 --> 00:40:21.480
Which one is it that you're going to do?

499
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:22.080
I don't know.

500
00:40:22.080 --> 00:40:25.680
I'm just throwing out ideas.

501
00:40:25.680 --> 00:40:29.920
And you're going to know as the parent what

502
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:31.240
and you feel this in the spirit.

503
00:40:31.240 --> 00:40:32.360
You just sense it in your spirit.

504
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:33.880
And then you just make a decision.

505
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:35.160
You don't have to worry like, oh my goodness,

506
00:40:35.160 --> 00:40:37.760
I wonder if this is going to be a reward.

507
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:39.200
Is this not going to be a reward?

508
00:40:39.200 --> 00:40:40.560
Don't overthink it.

509
00:40:40.560 --> 00:40:44.800
Just think, in my spirit, what feels appropriate at this time?

510
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:45.640
And then just do it.

511
00:40:45.640 --> 00:40:48.000
You may do it differently next time.

512
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.160
But just right now, what are you going to do?

513
00:40:51.160 --> 00:40:53.160
Get a general sort of idea before you

514
00:40:53.160 --> 00:40:55.440
get into that situation so that the situation doesn't

515
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:56.200
catch you off guard.

516
00:40:56.200 --> 00:40:58.240
You're trying to figure out in the middle of it,

517
00:40:58.240 --> 00:41:01.320
what's this new thing that I'm going to do?

518
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:02.480
Now's not the time.

519
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:04.640
Prepare yourself before you get in the situation.

520
00:41:04.640 --> 00:41:07.000
But just know that when you're in the situation,

521
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:10.560
don't you add shame to yourself, just

522
00:41:10.560 --> 00:41:12.320
like you're trying to avoid Aveya doing.

523
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:13.520
Don't add shame to yourself.

524
00:41:13.520 --> 00:41:15.800
Like, I wonder if I'm going to make the right decision.

525
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:17.880
I wonder if I'm going to do this right or whatever.

526
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:19.040
Trust your spirit more.

527
00:41:19.040 --> 00:41:20.040
Trust your spirit more.

528
00:41:20.040 --> 00:41:22.120
You know, of all of the people in the world that

529
00:41:22.120 --> 00:41:24.640
have ever lived, Aveya was given to you

530
00:41:24.640 --> 00:41:26.840
because you were the best for her.

531
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:28.280
You were the best based on what it

532
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.280
is that Aveya was going to need in her life.

533
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:31.440
You were it.

534
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:33.640
You were the thing that God was like, that

535
00:41:33.640 --> 00:41:35.000
will help prepare her.

536
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:41.760
So just trust your spirit and trust in the Lord and all that.

537
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:45.520
So always focus on who it is that you are,

538
00:41:45.520 --> 00:41:48.720
who it is that she is, not how she's behaving

539
00:41:48.720 --> 00:41:50.400
and what decisions you're making.

540
00:41:53.640 --> 00:41:54.280
Perfect.

541
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:55.280
Yeah, that's great.

542
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:55.880
Thank you.

543
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:59.640
And things won't look beautiful maybe the first time.

544
00:41:59.640 --> 00:42:01.640
Often they do look beautiful the first time

545
00:42:01.640 --> 00:42:04.160
and everyone thinks, oh my goodness, this just works.

546
00:42:04.160 --> 00:42:06.360
And then the next time things all go haywire

547
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.520
and like, oh my goodness, what's going on?

548
00:42:08.520 --> 00:42:13.880
Well, it's just we just need to hold everything very loosely

549
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.240
and understand that we're not moving from one formula

550
00:42:16.240 --> 00:42:19.160
to a different lifestyle or different formulas.

551
00:42:19.160 --> 00:42:22.640
And we're moving to no formulas and understand more things

552
00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:23.280
in spirit.

553
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:25.840
And we're not always going to, things aren't always

554
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:27.200
going to look beautiful.

555
00:42:27.200 --> 00:42:28.960
Things aren't going to always look perfect.

556
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:30.520
It's going to look like it was wrong.

557
00:42:30.520 --> 00:42:32.080
But think about all of the other things

558
00:42:32.080 --> 00:42:34.760
that you've tried so hard to do right by following formulas.

559
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:36.080
Have they always worked?

560
00:42:36.080 --> 00:42:37.480
No.

561
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.640
And so therefore, we're just going to a different one,

562
00:42:40.640 --> 00:42:43.040
but this one's being led more by the spirit.

563
00:42:43.040 --> 00:42:45.480
And so, and there are people that you're dealing with.

564
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.920
And she, in a veya, regardless of what choices you make,

565
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:50.080
she has a choice about whether or not she's going to receive it

566
00:42:50.080 --> 00:42:51.880
and how she's going to receive it.

567
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.920
So you just present her as much as you can to the Lord

568
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:56.640
and the authority that's been given to you.

569
00:42:56.640 --> 00:42:58.760
And God loves her more than you do.

570
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:02.080
So you just follow whatever you're feeling.

571
00:43:02.080 --> 00:43:05.160
And so the things that I'm telling you

572
00:43:05.160 --> 00:43:08.200
aren't like these perfect formulas of, OK, well,

573
00:43:08.200 --> 00:43:11.240
how to deal with this issue.

574
00:43:11.240 --> 00:43:14.720
These are just some ideas of a different approach

575
00:43:14.720 --> 00:43:18.240
that you could take to these types of situations.

576
00:43:18.240 --> 00:43:21.600
And then so maybe what this does is

577
00:43:21.600 --> 00:43:25.240
it's expanding your mind as to possibilities.

578
00:43:25.240 --> 00:43:27.760
So you may not do what it is I'm talking about.

579
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:29.840
You may not do what it is that I'm

580
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:31.960
throwing out there as an option.

581
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:35.240
I'm not even saying it's a good option about like, OK, well,

582
00:43:35.240 --> 00:43:37.520
instead of doing this, sit at the table.

583
00:43:37.520 --> 00:43:39.240
I'm not even saying that's a good option.

584
00:43:39.240 --> 00:43:42.640
I'm just throwing something out there that maybe you've never

585
00:43:42.640 --> 00:43:43.200
thought of.

586
00:43:43.200 --> 00:43:45.480
And all it does, and maybe the whole point

587
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.600
in us having this conversation, is simply

588
00:43:47.600 --> 00:43:51.880
to break out of the box that you thought in based

589
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:53.760
on your experience of how you were raised

590
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:55.800
or how you'd always heard other people raise their children

591
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:56.600
or whatever.

592
00:43:56.600 --> 00:43:59.480
And understand, OK, wait, wait, there's more possibilities.

593
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:04.520
And then just ask the Lord, OK, what outside of my box

594
00:44:04.520 --> 00:44:06.600
do you want me to start doing?

595
00:44:06.600 --> 00:44:10.200
Not what Ashley suggested or thought of as an idea

596
00:44:10.200 --> 00:44:12.640
or as an option, but just kind of like, hey, Lord,

597
00:44:12.640 --> 00:44:15.000
that gave me an idea that apparently there's

598
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.480
other ways that I can do it other than the way

599
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:18.720
I've been doing it.

600
00:44:18.720 --> 00:44:20.360
What other options are out there?

601
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:23.680
So I'm just saying all of this to kind of break out of the box

602
00:44:23.680 --> 00:44:26.760
but not saying, hey, this is the new direction.

603
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:27.280
So.

604
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:27.960
That's great.

605
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:28.760
I appreciate it.

606
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:29.720
Thank you.

607
00:44:29.720 --> 00:44:31.200
You're welcome.

608
00:44:31.200 --> 00:44:32.600
Welcome.

609
00:44:32.600 --> 00:44:35.560
So it will work for Avea, won't work for the kids.

610
00:44:35.560 --> 00:44:37.520
It will work for the kids, won't work for Avea.

611
00:44:37.520 --> 00:44:39.360
So yeah, we're all people.

612
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:41.160
That's why all marriages look different,

613
00:44:41.160 --> 00:44:42.840
because it's all based on relationships.

614
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.320
It's not based on behavior.

615
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:46.800
That's true.

616
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:47.800
Yeah.

617
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:53.280
And she's very committed to God for her little age.

618
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.600
So that's a good place to be in too.

619
00:44:55.600 --> 00:44:56.240
Yeah.

620
00:44:56.240 --> 00:44:58.720
So it's nice.

621
00:44:58.720 --> 00:45:00.280
Yeah.

622
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:07.040
I was laughing earlier because your little chat came up that you like when I say hogwash.

623
00:45:07.040 --> 00:45:08.040
I know.

624
00:45:08.040 --> 00:45:13.040
I wish that I had another phrase to use that wasn't so southern, but I don't know.

625
00:45:13.040 --> 00:45:15.640
It's the one that comes to my mind.

626
00:45:15.640 --> 00:45:19.560
I like that it means you're being real serious.

627
00:45:19.560 --> 00:45:21.600
Whatever you're saying, it's important.

628
00:45:21.600 --> 00:45:22.600
Okay?

629
00:45:22.600 --> 00:45:23.600
That's right.

630
00:45:23.600 --> 00:45:24.600
You're right.

631
00:45:24.600 --> 00:45:25.600
It's hogwash.

632
00:45:25.600 --> 00:45:26.600
It's a pig's will.

633
00:45:26.600 --> 00:45:38.040
You can tell I grew up on a farm, so of course my granddaddy's only had pigs like once when

634
00:45:38.040 --> 00:45:39.040
I was growing up.

635
00:45:39.040 --> 00:45:42.440
The rest were all cattle, so been donkeys.

636
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:46.680
Anyway, so does anyone have anything else?

637
00:45:46.680 --> 00:45:49.080
There's Steph.

638
00:45:49.080 --> 00:45:55.120
She's been hiding in the dark.

639
00:45:55.120 --> 00:45:56.120
Yes.

640
00:45:56.120 --> 00:46:05.160
I figure there's no sense in having my camera on if I'm in the dark.

641
00:46:05.160 --> 00:46:08.600
So does anyone have anything else?

642
00:46:08.600 --> 00:46:10.600
Linda, did you have something?

643
00:46:10.600 --> 00:46:12.600
I see that you were unmuted.

644
00:46:12.600 --> 00:46:18.000
Well, I was just checking to see whether or not you have any suggestions because when

645
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:21.800
she was talking about her daughter, I mean, her daughter is obviously under the age of

646
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:22.800
18.

647
00:46:23.200 --> 00:46:30.640
I have a son who decided to buy a $70,000 pickup truck when he just went back to work

648
00:46:30.640 --> 00:46:34.520
for the first time for four months and four years.

649
00:46:34.520 --> 00:46:41.040
I was hoping that there would be no way the dealership would even consider giving him

650
00:46:41.040 --> 00:46:42.040
a loan.

651
00:46:42.040 --> 00:46:50.600
Of course, you know, he got like 10% interest instead of two, but they let him drive the

652
00:46:50.600 --> 00:46:55.880
truck and I'm beside myself.

653
00:46:55.880 --> 00:47:00.040
So when she's saying that about him, I'm like, do you have the same authority over him once

654
00:47:00.040 --> 00:47:02.560
they turn 18?

655
00:47:02.560 --> 00:47:13.480
No, but you still have, because even when they're five, even when they're five, there's

656
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:20.840
a spiritual authority that we have, if we are of like protection, that they still have

657
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:21.840
free will.

658
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:29.600
And it's very challenging for a parent to provide that kind of authority and protection

659
00:47:29.600 --> 00:47:37.600
without violating the free will.

660
00:47:37.600 --> 00:47:39.760
That is a very difficult balance.

661
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:44.440
And I know that from personal experience in working, like, say, for instance, with children

662
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:54.160
that are babysat, my friends' kids, or my nieces or nephew, so I'm very, very even experientially

663
00:47:54.160 --> 00:48:02.480
understanding of that challenge of how to honor their free will, but still provide them

664
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:08.520
with the appropriate authoritative covering, which is only to benefit them, not to control

665
00:48:08.520 --> 00:48:09.520
them.

666
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:13.480
But somebody who's like over 18, I know it's really hard.

667
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:18.920
It's really, really hard, but we have, there's something, there's things that we can do on

668
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:25.120
behalf of other people that you would do the same thing with your child, with an offspring,

669
00:48:25.120 --> 00:48:36.120
you know, regardless how old they are, where you are one with them in Christ, and you can

670
00:48:36.120 --> 00:48:38.560
speak to them in the spirit.

671
00:48:38.560 --> 00:48:45.760
You can, I talk to people's souls and body and call them to, even when I'm not near them,

672
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:50.880
you know, call them to rise up and to remember who it is that they are, whatever, but they

673
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:58.560
have an opportunity to respond to it, respond to hearing a son of God, making wise decisions,

674
00:48:58.560 --> 00:49:08.600
asking their spirit on behalf of them to come in and present wisdom to their soul,

675
00:49:08.600 --> 00:49:16.000
to present wisdom to their body or whatever, as opposed to trying to, okay, as opposed

676
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:22.200
to manipulation, which is, so I'm trying to like give you an idea about what it is that

677
00:49:22.200 --> 00:49:23.480
I'm not saying.

678
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:32.840
So that, as opposed to what we typically can fall back on in our desire to help somebody

679
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:40.360
is we think that we're giving them, we think, well, we can't control them, but I can, I

680
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:47.520
can convince them and there's this, there's this, oh man, there's this delicate balance

681
00:49:47.680 --> 00:49:53.320
to having a conversation with someone and then moving into manipulation, which is where

682
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:59.960
we are taking someone's own standards of judgment, according to the true logic of evil.

683
00:50:00.720 --> 00:50:06.080
and using them and getting them to use them against themselves. Like, and what we typically

684
00:50:06.080 --> 00:50:13.760
do is we use guilt or shame. Like, have we ever been told by our parents or have we ever told the

685
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:20.480
child, um, you know, I taught you better. Well, things like that, you know, so I'm not saying

686
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:27.040
that. Yeah. I use the example that we went to look at a house one time and we thought it was the

687
00:50:27.040 --> 00:50:33.520
house for us and I had a check. And so we didn't buy the house because I couldn't sign the

688
00:50:33.520 --> 00:50:42.480
paperwork on it. And two weeks later, Greg lost his job. So had we signed on a house at that point,

689
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:49.760
we could legitimately have had, we would have been no way to pay. I mean, so it was just one

690
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:55.520
of those checks. And then just like three years ago, we had looked at a summer home at like the

691
00:50:55.520 --> 00:51:00.080
Ozarks, which is like an hour and a half from here to have a second place to get away. And we

692
00:51:00.080 --> 00:51:07.120
had $20,000 down getting ready to go put the check as a down payment. And Greg got down there and

693
00:51:07.120 --> 00:51:13.920
said, I just couldn't do it. I didn't have peace. So I use that example in those two instances where

694
00:51:14.640 --> 00:51:22.400
one person in the family didn't have peace and it was okay not to, but I shared that

695
00:51:23.200 --> 00:51:29.280
with my daughter-in-law. Without her signature, it wouldn't have gone through because she was the

696
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:36.000
only one that's had the long-term thing. Well, she showed it to my son and then I got the phone call

697
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:43.040
and it was like, I was not going behind his back. She had already talked to me about not being

698
00:51:43.040 --> 00:51:50.080
comfortable about it. So I didn't tell him she'd already talked to me. But the reason why I texted

699
00:51:50.080 --> 00:51:56.240
her was because if this is going through, you don't have to sign even if you're not comfortable.

700
00:51:56.240 --> 00:52:03.120
So she threw me under the bus. I did not throw her on the bus, but I did get in trouble with my son.

701
00:52:03.120 --> 00:52:09.120
It's already gone through $1,500 a month payment. He hasn't made that much money except for three

702
00:52:09.120 --> 00:52:16.320
months in the last five years. We've been paying his bills on a very consistent basis. It's like,

703
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:25.440
what are you thinking? So of course, it's like you get three months of good money

704
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:35.040
and this is what you do with it. So I'm, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that.

705
00:52:35.040 --> 00:52:43.760
But that is an issue that the two of them might personally be struggling with in their relationship

706
00:52:44.720 --> 00:52:53.680
and therefore it's easier for them to outsource an issue to someone outside the marriage.

707
00:52:54.880 --> 00:53:00.320
So I'm sorry that that's what it sounds like may have happened. So it doesn't have anything

708
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:05.680
to do with you. I'm really sorry. Did I do? Because he said, well, you could have come

709
00:53:05.680 --> 00:53:09.600
and talked to me. I said, I'm not going to come and talk to you. I know you're the one

710
00:53:09.680 --> 00:53:14.720
that wants the truck. You know, there is no reason that you're not going to not sign it.

711
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:20.080
She's the one that if you, you know, if you didn't have her income, there'd be no way it

712
00:53:20.080 --> 00:53:26.640
would be going through. But, but because of it, I mean, now he's got the truck, he's happy and

713
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:32.240
love you, mom. You know, so like it didn't work, mom. I got my truck. I mean, that's

714
00:53:33.200 --> 00:53:44.400
the way it came across. Sorry. I will say so. So two things here that as much as we

715
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:54.880
want to help our help other people, regardless of whether it's a, it's a child or spouse or

716
00:53:54.880 --> 00:54:00.480
someone else, you know, we're like, oh my word, I could just see the pain coming or the potential

717
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:09.440
for pain or whatever. Well, we learned so much through it that it can, someone's life can be

718
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:15.280
tremendously enriched by making a particular decision that they could have been saved from.

719
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:21.760
And, and I'm not saying that, oh, well, you know, you should just like embrace pain and whatever.

720
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:28.240
My, my point is that, so there is a redemption aspect. It's not just all gone to, to hell and

721
00:54:28.240 --> 00:54:34.960
a handbasket. The other thing is that, and then God loves them more than we do. And the other

722
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:40.080
thing is that we, as we, as a person, regardless of our relationship with them, regardless of if

723
00:54:40.080 --> 00:54:48.640
it's a parent, child, or spouse or friend or whatever it is, there is an aspect in which we

724
00:54:48.640 --> 00:54:54.560
can what it is that we can give someone is the same thing that I talk about when I talk about

725
00:54:54.560 --> 00:54:59.840
talking to someone in the spirit. It's honoring and respecting.

726
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:07.480
them as their own person to them to provide them a safe place to be themselves, even if

727
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:12.280
who it is that they are and what it is that they're expressing is bringing a tremendous

728
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:19.880
is very unwise, because what they end up doing is by providing someone else a safe place

729
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.720
to make mistakes that they have a right to make.

730
00:55:22.720 --> 00:55:25.600
So we're not talking about mistakes that they don't have a right and authority to make and

731
00:55:25.600 --> 00:55:27.200
providing a safe place for that.

732
00:55:27.200 --> 00:55:30.760
We're talking about ones that they have a right to make in their own lives, you know,

733
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:38.080
and providing a safe space for that I have noticed that people learn lessons faster than

734
00:55:38.080 --> 00:55:45.880
they do if they have if they make unwise decisions, and they have they it gets countered, and

735
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:52.560
they get because they feel personally attacked, which makes them rise up and try to defend

736
00:55:52.560 --> 00:56:00.560
or protect themselves, and it entrenches the the repetitive unwise decisions.

737
00:56:00.560 --> 00:56:08.720
So they end up making unwise decisions, fewer bath, and then in a shorter amount of time,

738
00:56:08.720 --> 00:56:14.560
the more of a safe place that they're provided to make mistakes without feeling condemned

739
00:56:14.560 --> 00:56:17.520
by someone who disagreed with them.

740
00:56:17.520 --> 00:56:23.760
I know that by experience by how by working with people, personally and professionally,

741
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:26.720
where they were making certain decisions.

742
00:56:26.720 --> 00:56:33.120
And I either didn't say anything, because they weren't asking my opinion, or, or whatever

743
00:56:33.120 --> 00:56:36.760
the situation was, or maybe they did ask my opinion, it was my place to say, say, for

744
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:41.880
instance, even in a person professional situation, where my job was on the line, if they messed

745
00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:49.640
up, I would provide them a certain as a safe place to make mistakes.

746
00:56:49.640 --> 00:56:55.160
And then, and by the way, these were really, really serious situations, very serious, like

747
00:56:55.160 --> 00:57:01.000
my job was being like my like the project and their decisions were being reported to

748
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:06.920
like the owner of FedEx, who owned a company, you know, worldwide company that owned half

749
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:07.920
a million employees.

750
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:12.880
So we're talking about really, really, really big risks here, my whole job is online, everything

751
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:16.560
like in very big ways, many, many, many, many, many, like throughout the throughout the day

752
00:57:16.560 --> 00:57:22.000
with all of these different people, and like trying to figure out, okay, how do I provide

753
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:26.000
a safe place, and I learned that they learned from their mistakes faster.

754
00:57:26.560 --> 00:57:29.360
Like, if they made mistakes, and I suffered for it.

755
00:57:31.040 --> 00:57:36.480
They, they made them, they, they made them made fewer, and then they started gaining

756
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:41.840
wisdom faster than if I battled them trying to convince them that that was unwise, that

757
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:45.920
what it is that they were doing and watch because they start taking on personally, and

758
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:52.160
would and would become further entrenched in making unwise decisions, because they weren't

759
00:57:52.160 --> 00:57:58.320
there, they're, they're training of learning how to make wise decisions was being delayed.

760
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:03.200
So it took a longer to make it, it's not, it's not easy.

761
00:58:03.200 --> 00:58:07.680
And it is hard to be on that outside where you're suffering for watching what it is that

762
00:58:07.680 --> 00:58:11.360
they're doing, that they're doing to themselves, and watching them suffer.

763
00:58:12.160 --> 00:58:13.920
But they do learn it faster.

764
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:19.200
So, and that, again, I'm talking about situations in which is somebody else's right to make a

765
00:58:19.200 --> 00:58:24.880
decision and to make a mistake, as opposed to making a mistake when it's when it's not

766
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:28.480
their authority to make a mistake, and it's not their authority to make their own decision.

767
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:32.560
I'm talking about when it when it's very obvious that it's their authority to make their decision,

768
00:58:32.560 --> 00:58:33.600
how do we handle that?

769
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:38.720
I've noticed that the pain is still there, but they do learn faster.

770
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:42.960
And they, and they, they feel safer with you to come for your advice.

771
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:44.400
Faster.

772
00:58:45.200 --> 00:58:46.160
It's wild.

773
00:58:46.160 --> 00:58:49.840
I've seen it so many times, not just professionally in personal situations, too.

774
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:52.640
I've seen lives changed as a result.

775
00:58:53.200 --> 00:58:59.200
So I know it's not an easy answer, but I promise I have experienced it in a very serious situation,

776
00:58:59.200 --> 00:59:01.440
personally and professionally, very serious ones.

777
00:59:02.080 --> 00:59:02.640
Oh, my word.

778
00:59:03.600 --> 00:59:09.280
Very scary ones, like even in the professional ones, like where people were doing physical harm.

779
00:59:10.560 --> 00:59:13.120
So made, made a big difference.

780
00:59:13.120 --> 00:59:20.000
So by being safe place, I ended up being the person that they would come to, to be rescued,

781
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:22.480
and not rescued so that they can repeat the behavior.

782
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:25.920
We're talking rescue to finally get finally out of it.

783
00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:32.960
So anyway, but that to you, that was just, those were just my thoughts.

784
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:35.440
Not fun.

785
00:59:37.040 --> 00:59:37.680
Thanks, thanks.

786
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:40.160
I know, sorry.

787
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:41.680
I know it's not fun.

788
00:59:43.680 --> 00:59:47.760
So does anyone have anything before we jump off?

789
00:59:52.240 --> 00:59:53.680
Is everyone good?

790
00:59:53.680 --> 00:59:56.240
I don't think I've missed any chat.

791
00:59:56.240 --> 00:59:59.920
No, I haven't.

792
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.240
Okay, well, it's good to see everybody.

793
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:17.600
Bye. Hope y'all have a good week and I should see you next week. So I don't think I don't have a rest intensive that I'm aware or rest intensive a rest and interest resting

794
01:00:18.560 --> 01:00:27.920
Next week. So unless something random and surprising comes up. So everything should all be good. So I will see y'all next Thursday, then

795
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.400
All right. Bye.
