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I'm going to say, well, I don't see her, but I'm assuming she's there for you.

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It's a beautiful Christmas tree behind you.

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Everyone keeps commenting on it.

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So at my mother-in-law's house, we didn't get to celebrate Christmas with her, so she

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kept the Christmas tree so that we could be festive when all the family was together.

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So, oh, how has your week been?

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It felt weird to miss the time to get together.

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I know, I know.

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For a good reason.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, we did a salsa bachata class, so that was really fun.

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You did a what?

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A salsa bachata class.

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We found this fun.

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So it was fun.

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It was two hours.

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It was an hour of salsa, an hour of bachata.

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So it was like from seven to nine, and I was like, okay, we just missed it.

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Yeah.

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It's just a bit too far.

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Oh, well, I know that y'all had fun.

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That's good.

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I was really, I was proud of him.

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I was going to say, yeah, if I asked my husband to do a dance lesson for Valentine's Day,

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he would just dread it.

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It would be a bad memory in his mind, and he'd be like, oh, my word, don't make me do

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that again.

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He used to dance, but he doesn't dance much anymore, and so I'm always like, you know,

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he could do that.

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And he's like, no, no, really, no.

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All right.

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Oh, man.

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Okay.

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You said he's Cuban.

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Wait, did you say he had some, he's Spanish origins or something?

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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He's half Cuban.

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His dad came over from Cuba.

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I know.

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He's something.

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But I think.

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That's funny.

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But I've been trying to catch up on all the journey shares, so now I'm like, okay, I know

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where everybody's going, and kind of, it's really exciting.

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Well, I've been working today on some stuff, and I had, so I haven't even been able to

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catch up on all the journey shares.

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I was caught up as of a few days ago, but if any came in today, I didn't see them.

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I was doing a class that a prior Rest Intensive client did, has set up with her group that

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she coaches, and she teaches them some things about rest, what it is that she's learned.

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Of course, she focuses on more than that, but rest is a part of it, and then she asked

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me to come on once a month and answer questions.

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So today was that day of the month, and so I was able to jump on and meet some new people

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that had recently joined her group, and of course, have some old people that had been

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there and seen me over the past few months, and so anyway, that was fun.

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That's cool.

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Well, Rita says that she is running late, so she'll be here eventually, and then Diana

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says that she can't make it tonight, so it will be the four of us.

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Were you able to watch at all the rest group from Tuesday that Annette and Renata were

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No, but I intend to.

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Well, that was, it was really fun.

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We had a good time.

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Of course, you know, it's Valentine's Day, so Annette was like, well, I say that.

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I guess it really didn't have anything to do with Valentine's Day.

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It was a birthday party.

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I was going to say, it was Valentine's Day.

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She was at a party, but it was a birthday, and anyway, so poor thing.

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She had to step out in the cold because she was like, I can't find a place to do the Zoom

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call inside with all these people.

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It's so loud, and so she walked around in the cold in Norway for an hour, you know,

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to have a conversation.

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Anyway, we had a good time.

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we had fun. But yeah, so yeah. Hey, Karen, how are you?

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Hey, pretty good. How are you? What's that beautiful stuff

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behind you?

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Everyone, everyone keeps coming on the tree and that my mother

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in law has had set up since Thanksgiving because we were

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here for Thanksgiving. And so we set we after set it up. And

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then we weren't here for Christmas because we were

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celebrating Christmas with my family. And that we were

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planning a feather family gathering for mid February, mid

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Yeah, I was gonna say mid to early February, but mid

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February where we were going to be back in town and some other

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family members were going to be back in town. So she kept up the

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Christmas tree to have that. So at one point, we have we have

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multiple decorations around the house for a total of let's see

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Super Bowl decorations, Valentine's Day decorations,

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Christmas decorations. I thought there was something else. And

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then on 50th birthday celebration, decoration, because

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it's my husband's 50th in about a week or so. And so his family

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wanted to be able to celebrate with him. We've got like, four

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different themes.

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We are very festive. I like that. I like that. That's so

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cool. Look how long your hair is getting.

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Yes, I suppose it is. I haven't thought about that. And my I, a

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lot of times keep it curled or keep it up. And, and it's about

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I suppose what it was, I don't know, might even be shorter than

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it was during those then last time you saw me for that

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conference. But anyway, so I'm trying to grow it back out

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again, I had decided to cut it for a bit just to see if I, you

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know, just for a change. And I decided, no, I don't like it.

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I'm bringing it back out again.

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It's beautiful.

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Yeah. And I actually have a hair appointment in about, I guess

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it's Oh, wow. Is it a week from tomorrow? Oh, it's a week from

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tomorrow. I am very excited to get my hair cut and colored

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again. I would feel like a new woman every time I go to the

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hairdresser, or get your nails done. You know, you just feel

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you just feel all put together again. So anyway,

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yeah, just just does my screen looks blurry to me tonight.

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I don't think it does, but I don't know that it's any more

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than normal. So that can either be fuzz on the camera, or it can

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be like a smear or smudge, or it can be just lighting, not on

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your face. And that can make everything look grainy. So

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anyway, it's fine to me. I can see you.

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Okay, it just, I've been on zoom calls today quite a bit. And and

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they looked much better than I mean, you look clear as a bell.

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Well, it's Yeah, but it's also I've noticed that lighting

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really makes a really good factor is Oh, yeah, I'm sure

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that all of your during other times of day, you have more

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light coming in for the windows. Yeah, yeah. And I can I don't

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have the backlighting going on. That's probably part I usually

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do that. But I don't really want to turn it on. It's too bright

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for tonight. But yeah. Yeah, we can see you. We know who you

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are. Yeah. I do want to ask you every the last few times you've

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been on there. Is anybody else Tammy? Do you your your your

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voice to has a little different tone to it? Have you Can you

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hear that too? Tammy? No sound weird. It does. It's it's a tiny

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bit garbled to me. Oh, a tie. I mean, like, it's totally

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different than it was. You don't hear that Tammy? No, I don't.

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I'm sorry. That is so weird. The only I don't know either. I'm

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using my AirPods and I haven't been using my AirPods. Or what

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was the other thing I thought about? Or I was gonna say it

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could be like the internet and places I've been at. I'm not

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really sure. I'm sorry. That's okay. I just kind of wondered

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because I hear it now. I heard it on my phone. I hear it on

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this computer. I who knows maybe it is my AirPods. I had to have

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my AirPods in today. But usually Well, I suppose I don't. I don't

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know. Maybe I don't. Let me change out of my AirPods. And

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then let's see if that helps. We'll see if it's Yeah, that'd

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be interesting, I guess to see if it's I can I am just loving

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that tree though in the tree. It is so fun. I know. Let's see.

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Okay.

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Okay, so how is that?

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Is that that's so much better. It's totally clear now.

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All right, so we will try this.

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That's funny that only I heard it and Tammy didn't hear it.

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I know.

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But you know technology, you never know, right?

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With it, it's a little crazy.

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Yeah, and it's been that way the last few times we met.

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And I meant to say something and then, yeah, now it's

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totally clear.

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OK, well, good.

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Maybe it's the AirPods, which is very strange.

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I don't know.

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But anyway, they're not the best for recording,

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excuse me, but they are supposed to be very good.

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So I don't know if I've just worn them out.

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I have.

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I have had them for, you know what?

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I hadn't thought about that.

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I've had them for almost two years.

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I haven't thought about them.

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I got that right after the conference, actually,

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because I was going overseas and a friend of mine

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had told me that I should get them,

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said that they were very good for noise cancelling.

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And so anyway, OK, so.

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I said maybe they're just poor little things.

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I hadn't realized.

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Maybe, yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, I could hear you.

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I just hoped it wasn't like recording that sound

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or something because that wouldn't be it wasn't it

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wouldn't be the best sound for recording.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you're right.

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But all right.

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Well, I'm glad this is better.

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So thank you.

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Sure.

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So how is everyone doing?

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Does everyone what question do you have?

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Have you all, I don't know, run into anything,

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any struggles or difficulties or do you have any any wins,

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any victories, any testimonies of having seen the Lord come

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through in a way?

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I don't know, just kind of like a like a journey share.

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Does anyone have anything?

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Well, I guess I could do a little

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unless Tammy wants to go first.

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Yeah, I think she's thinking.

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Yeah, I'm thinking exactly right now.

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That's what I'm looking for.

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Like, that is the thought.

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Well, I have had a little a little victory in your tips

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that you gave about rest, about going to bed and taking

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the Lord, you know, with the father or the Lord with me

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in my nighttime just getting to getting ready for bed.

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And and although I just made soup and I got in a little hurry

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up, a little hurry up because I wanted to be done before class.

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And I was like, here, you can just slow down.

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It'll all be OK.

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And but I have a nice big pot of vegetable soup.

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But anyway, I've had I've had several nights since since we

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and that might have been Sunday.

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We talked about that, if I remember right.

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Anyway, it's been I've I've gotten to bed a little bit earlier

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and I've practiced that just, you know, kind of knowing the father's

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with me getting ready for bed and just kind of thinking about it.

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Welcoming, you know, just as I don't know, however, and I've.

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Kind of started doing I have a good book called that's that's

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that my mentor recommended a while back, and it's a short little book and it's

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it's called Legacy of Sonship, I think is the name of it.

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But it's but I've just been reading a little bit of it around the same time.

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And I take some nightly supplements and

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reading tends to sometimes just make me sleepy.

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So so it's been working.

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And I read a little bit of that.

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And except last night, I read some

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I read some words, some prophetic words that really mean a lot to me.

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And I read some of them and they kind of got me excited.

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And that's what I was thinking when you were talking.

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I was like, well, yeah, yeah.

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And and I and I cried and I was like, oh, gosh, now I'm awake.

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Oh, no, I thought reading one of these, I might like I was maybe reading one

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a night and it was working, but I had this I had this several of them.

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And I read too much of it.

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Oh, well, so hilarious.

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Is it that funny reason to be stimulated?

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I'm like, Lord, just let me sleep to at least like, you know, five, five, six,

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seven, you know, and you know, that night I slept till five five o'clock.

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I woke up, you know, and and so I'm like,

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so I've been asking him again, but I have sometimes I wake up at these certain times

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I get and so I woke up a few times and but it's been peaceful and.

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I read it's been peaceful, so I have to say those.

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have been helpful on on and yeah, and so it's, it's a little

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more, you know, looking forward to spending time with the Lord

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while getting ready for bed and buying father's been the one

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that I've had problems with. So a little more, you know,

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thinking about the Father being with me and, and so I have, it

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has been helpful. I've gotten to sleep a little earlier all

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week. That is great. Even when I kind of struggled the other

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night on Thanksgiving, on Valentine's, I mean, but I, but

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I still got to bed. So yeah, so I wanted to give that, that

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That's wonderful. Good. And you're and I'm so glad that

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you're doing all of that. You know, it's so important to that

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when we focus on the Lord, and, and that what we're focusing on

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is we're focusing on, you know, this, the all of the good

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things, you know, like his love, or the fact that we're

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unconditionally accepted, not like, okay, what do we want to

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what do we want to do for him or have faith in him about or

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whatever, but just like all of the, like all of the good

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things, all of the very enriching things. So yeah. So

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that's wonderful. I'm so very glad that that's been helpful.

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Thank you, Ashley. Yeah. Yeah.

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with him. Well, it took us a while to get into it, because we

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had to talk about all kinds of stuff, you know, because that's

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what friends do when they get together is like catch up on

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all of like, hiddly little things like, Oh, well, I bought

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my airpod pros like two years ago. So they're probably old,

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you know, anyway, so besides besides revelations like that,

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we were Karen was catching us up on the fact that she has been

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implementing the things that I was recommending about, you

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know, going to sleep, you know, about like a nightly routine.

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been working and that she's been able to get to bed earlier and

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all that stuff. That's we've talked about. So does anyone

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have a question or any other testimony to testify to Lord

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about, you know, way that you've seen him? You know, you've seen

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a bit more of who he is, that you've been experiencing a bit

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more of who he is, that you've seen him in ways that you didn't

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recognize in your life that that's actually him. And you

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thought either that it was the enemy or you thought that, you

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know, Oh, well, that's I don't know, you know, it's just a

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natural part of life. It's just something that happens, you

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know, or, or any question or

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thing. Um, I guess, when Karen, you started talking about what,

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actually, you were just sharing in regards to sleeping and all

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of that, that really resonated with me as far as like, you

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know, enjoying those things that are really important, like,

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you're remembering you saying, like, put on your favorite PJs

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and, like all of that. And so this past week, I feel like I've

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been living in that way as far as like, doing the things that

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bring me joy. And so it's been really great. And God is so

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faithful. Because like, now that it's like, okay, well, TV

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is not a thing. It was like, well, what are the things that

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bring you joy? Like, what are the things you love to you enjoy

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doing, or you've always wanted to do, but you were so working

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so much, you know? So, um, Monday, Rita and I, we did a

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praise dance class together. That was like, so amazing. And

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like, fun.

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It was the last, the last song, we just got to free, just free

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worship. However, that's what the instructor let us do. And

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like, we were all like balling, right? Like, we were just like,

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in our own little places, like all balling. It was like, so

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precious. It was like, you were dancing. For me, it was like, I

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was dancing just for God, like before his throne. It was like,

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it was amazing. And um, yeah, so that was great. And then I got

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to play a flag football game at 930. So like, that was amazing.

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happened on the same day in like, the flag football game

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was like, so much later, I was able to drive 30 minutes away,

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come back home, spend an hour with my husband, and then still

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go to my game. So it was like, perfect. So little things like

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that. And then doing salsa and bachata dancing for Valentine's

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Day. And yesterday was gorgeous in Dallas, it was like, a high

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of like 74 or 75 degrees in February, which is like crazy,

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right? So I was like, I gotta go outside. And I want to like, I

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took out this craftsy app. And I'm like, Oh, I want to like, do

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some sketches with some color pencils. So my husband took me

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to Michael's and we did that. And then like, he sat out there

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with

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me. I'm like, hallelujah. He's trying. He sat out there with me with on a blanket and we caught the

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last light. And so it was just like really great. And then today we practiced some salsa together so

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we wouldn't forget the moves. So it's been like really great. And I think one of the things that

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I have to work on though, is like today I had a lot, like a long list of things, which weren't

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really that challenging when you think about them. But I just realized what my personality,

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like I go really, really deep and really get really, really intense with one thing.

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And sometimes it's hard for me to transition, but it's like, I spend so much energy on one thing

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that it kind of zapped me. You know what I mean? And so like my sister, my nephew's coming over in

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a little bit. He's five and we're going to go to the Perot museum tomorrow. And I was tidying up

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the apartment and I was like, okay, I need to, I need to fold up all these clothes. And I was like,

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no, I have no, don't have the energy for that. Like, I'm going to just tidy and put it away.

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Like, because I'm like, you don't have to do too much. Like that's what I get caught in. And then

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it's just like, I'm so tired and I've worn myself out and I just don't want to do anything. You

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know what I mean? So I think I'm learning that I have to, I guess that's part of a question too,

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in some kind of ways, but I guess I kind of know the answer. I just need to like work through it a

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little bit, walk through it a little bit more. So yeah, that's something that I will be working

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on for the, I think focusing on the next couple of days and talking to God about as well.

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That's great. That's wonderful. It, it seems very counterproductive to us sometimes to be like,

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well, wait a minute, aren't I supposed to be learning about God? Aren't I supposed to be

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focusing on God? And it's like, yes, but him, but one of the aspects that you're, you're learning

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that you're learning to believe about him and put into practice is what it is that he said

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about you and then getting your identity founded in what he has said, as opposed to

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trying to figure yourself out or whatever. No, it's like, who has God made you to be?

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And then just step into what he says about you, step into what he put in you, step into what he

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desired to be expressed out of you and then to thoroughly, and then to step out in that faith

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by enjoying it, by allowing it to express itself by, by delighting in it. So it's not just

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believing that God delights in you doing those things. It's you delighting in yourself while

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doing those things, you know, and, and, uh, that is weird as it is weird as it sounds.

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It really does teach us learning about ourselves teaches us about God. It teaches us about his

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goodness. It teaches us about his love. It teaches us, it teaches us about his unconditional

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acceptance is as wild as that is. Um, so we're at, um, anyway, I know a lot of people always think

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that it's so strange when I talk to them about the importance of choosing them and delighting

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in themselves and whatever, but what it is that they're choosing is they're choosing to believe

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that thing that God has said, like, cause God said a lot of things, but what has God said about you?

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And then you were the first thing that he entrusted him that entrusted you with is to, um,

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he entrusted you with himself. I mean, sorry, he entrusted you with, he entrusted you with himself,

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but he also entrusted you with yourself, you know, and to, and to thoroughly enjoy it, to value it,

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to honor it, to appreciate it, to acknowledge it, you know, to give it a voice, you know,

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all aspects of you, including the parts that you historically haven't liked so much, you know, to,

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to value those things in meaning like to give again, to get, to honor them by allowing them

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to have a voice, to have a, to have a, to have a presence, to have a seat at the table, to get to

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express itself. But then what is it that you collectively, like all the different parts of you,

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what collectively do you decide? You always decide in favor of what God says is true,

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not what the world wants to say is true, or you choose this higher reality over this other

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reality. They're both realities. You know, all the difficulties that we run into in the world,

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the fact that you feel mad, sometimes the fact that you're in unbelief against God, sometimes

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all of that stuff, that's very real. And we never want to deny it, but in the face that you can only

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really truly choose God, if you're choosing him in the face of acknowledging all of these things.

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So anyway, um, I think that is great. So thoroughly enjoy yourself and don't let yourself

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be deterred when, when you're focusing on all these good things about yourself and delighting

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yourself and learning more about God by learning more about yourself. And then all of a sudden,

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something comes out that you have termed as negative. Like, I'm already getting mad or you

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don't like how you feel, or you get hurt or you, you know, something about you just physically

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feels off or you're in pain or you're struggling or you're whatever. Don't be, don't be turned.

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uh, knocked off the path of thoroughly enjoying yourself by trying to, by either switching from

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focus on this to focusing on the negative, or just trying to stay focused on the positive by

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ignoring the negative, ignoring the negative never helps anybody. So accept that part of yourself and

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know that you're not victim to being, to being determined. Um, that anything in your life or

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anything about your identity is victim to be determined by the negative feelings or by the

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negative aspects of yourself. You're like, why do I always do this? Why do I always end up doing

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that? I thought I've been enjoying myself this past week. I've been loving all of these wonderful

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things that I've discovered about myself for all of these things that I'd forgotten were buried,

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buried. And now I'm bringing them back out to the light, you know, but then why do I still

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always do this? Or why do I always do this in this way? No fully take that whole self to God

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and be that negative, um, feeling that pain, that struggle, be that in the presence of God

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to allow him to restore it and to, and to help you deal with it. Um, so that, that part of you,

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that, that part of you that feels negative, or that feels weak, or that feels whatever negative

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word that we want to use, that we're judging, allow God to transform that into, into, um,

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into goodness, you know, into spirit, from flesh and to spirit, from an aspect of you that,

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that is afraid and is unbelieving and do an aspect of you that actually trust God.

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But it can't do that if we're, if we're ignoring it, if we're trying to stifle that part of

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ourselves or whatever. So just allow yourself. So when you thoroughly, when you enjoy yourself,

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when you delight yourself and delight in yourself, delight in all aspects of you,

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just simply because they're, you doesn't mean that you love the negative. You love being negative in

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this particular area of your life, or you love the fact that you always do this. It just means that

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you love the, you that's ending up doing those things. And the reason that you're doing those

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things is simply because you are, you believe something about God. That's actually not true.

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So in other words, life is better than that part of you believes that it is.

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Everything is always towards more love and freedom. So graciously accept this parts of yourself,

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just go to the Lord and just be like, okay, God, there's this, that I'm struggling with. There's

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this aspect of my soul or my body that I don't identify with, but I do love and accept and I

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cover and I protect and they're struggling right now. And then just let him deal with those things.

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But you you'll be able to deal with those different aspects of yourself. If you don't

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reject those aspects of yourself. So anyway, cause you're going to run into that. And then

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otherwise that it's going to be very discouraging of like, oh my goodness, I'm delighting in all of

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these things. And oh my goodness, look at all this negative stuff or all this stuff that I've always

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considered to be so negative, you know, now I've got this and, and it can be just be discouraging.

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And so anyway, fully accept those aspects of you as well, and know that you are to be delighted in

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you are enjoyable, even fully encompassing those negative things. And then just take him to the

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Lord and let him go, you know, and he won't punish them. You won't condemn them. He'll,

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he'll heal them. He'll restore them. He'll trans he'll transition them into spirit because he

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already did. He already did that, you know, with his death on the cross and that's actually

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submitting them to him will allow him to finally do it. In other words, fondly overcome it to

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transition it from flesh into spirit. So anyway, I just wanted to mention that so that when you,

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so that, you know, fully to delight in all aspects of you, not just the parts that feel good or

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whatever, like permission to like fully embrace who it is that you are. Um, and that's the way

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that you can prove to your soul and your body that you are loving and accepting it unconditionally,

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no matter where it is, no matter how it's expressing itself, no matter how afraid it is.

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So, and then that will transform you and you will mature faster in the Lord and you will overcome

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weaknesses faster because you're not resisting them. You're fully facing them and just taking

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the Lord, like, okay, Lord, here it is. I let it happen. Say it's very mad just to warn you.

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Just, just, you know, I heard it out and it's not pretty. So here we come.

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Thank you. That's really, really, that's good because it's you're right. It is kind of like

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the onion. Cause I'm like, okay, well that's what I did with my negative emotions towards

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someone else. Like why do I do that same stuff towards myself and just accept it.

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But I was like, okay, it didn't feel as intuitive. Okay. Thank you.

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Well, good, good. I'm excited for you. That's wonderful. I I'm always.

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very impressed and excited when people actually execute on what I've advised to do, because

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I'm like, I'm like, okay, everybody does remember it's mentorship program. It's not a, oh, let's

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see what this person has to say. It'll cherry pick what it is that I want to believe, but

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I won't implement any of it. I'm like, okay, well then you're going to leave the same way

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you came in. So I'm so excited. Cause I'm like, ah, what I tell people is the stuff

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that actually works, not the stuff that makes them feel better, which is why my, my program

445
00:30:31.040 --> 00:30:37.160
only appeals to typically eight to 10 people at a time. You know, it's very, very, very

446
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.960
small and very intimate. It's because it actually does require all of the hard work, you know,

447
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:46.240
out of someone, and it's not hard. It's just that, I mean, it's not, it's not complicated.

448
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:49.920
It's just, they have to let go of everything. It is. They haven't wanted to let go of, but

449
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:55.960
I'm like, but this will get you what you want. I promise. So do you want to do it, but it's

450
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up to each person. So anyway, so does anyone have anything else? You look pretty and all

451
00:31:07.120 --> 00:31:26.720
fixed up, Rita. Well, I wish I could help, but I don't have any questions. I'm kidding.

452
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:34.080
Technically I have lots of questions, but I'll ask the Lord. I posted something on,

453
00:31:34.080 --> 00:31:42.920
on our comments, but I know you were in a, you know, working today. And so I don't know

454
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:51.680
if this is the appropriate setting for it, but I thought I'd ask. So, like I was in marriage

455
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:56.400
counseling and I was just been thinking about my marriage and I'm like, okay, different

456
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:03.400
aspects that needs need to be healed. And so their aspects was like, oh, okay, there's

457
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:10.440
progress. But I guess I have a question about like spiritual intimacy. And so I know you're

458
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:16.120
married and you're married to someone who's a Christian. So, you know, you probably have

459
00:32:16.120 --> 00:32:22.440
insight and if not, and this is not the appropriate setting, that's fine. But I guess it's just

460
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:28.360
a question. It's kind of like, what does that like having, I guess, I don't know. I'm like,

461
00:32:28.360 --> 00:32:33.400
does that even relate to respite? It kind of does to me. Cause it's kind of like that unity

462
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:38.440
between you and your partner on the spiritual level. And it's like, I don't even know what

463
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:47.000
that looks like or what that sounds like, because I'm like, if I can't, I don't know, maybe that's

464
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:51.480
not the right way. But a part of me is like, if I can't define it, then it's like, how does that

465
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:57.320
happen? But I guess I could just go to God and ask them for that. But I don't know.

466
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I'm sorry.

467
00:32:58.760 --> 00:33:05.560
It's just like, what does spiritual intimacy in or just look like between like a husband and

468
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:12.680
a wife? Because it's like, I experienced that with my friends, like in community. I'm like,

469
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:16.200
I know what that looks like. Well, I guess I'm maybe I'm answering my questions, like

470
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:23.960
sharing your ideas and what you learned. And I don't know. Share your testimony,

471
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:28.120
but I don't know. I just feel like it might be deeper with your husband and wife, but I don't

472
00:33:28.120 --> 00:33:36.040
know. Well, it is. And there are certain things that like, I don't know, there's, I mean, think

473
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about like the level of intimacy that we're supposed to have with the Lord. You can't bring

474
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:49.160
there's a certain degree of that intimacy that you can't bring other people into.

475
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:58.680
And just because, I mean, meaning like you shouldn't, but you should be able to bring

476
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:04.280
your, you should with your spouse again, though it's based off. It's only, you can only do that

477
00:34:04.280 --> 00:34:11.320
to the level and the degree to which they are willing to offer themselves to the Lord. So,

478
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:15.800
you know, if you're you and your spouse are not, are not at that same place, well then yeah,

479
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.440
that there's a particular level of intimacy that you're offering of yourself to the Lord

480
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:25.639
that they, that they don't know how to share in yet. But like say for instance, you know,

481
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:31.719
they always say that prayer is very intimate and they, and so it depends on who you talk to

482
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:37.560
as to who recommends that you pray with your, with the person you're dating or the person that

483
00:34:37.560 --> 00:34:43.239
you're engaged to, whether you pray with them to God or not. And I'm not talking about like before

484
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:48.199
a meal, I'm talking about like serious prayer because prayer is very intimate. It it'll,

485
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:56.040
it'll create, it'll create a connection. It'll create a feeling of closeness that that some

486
00:34:56.040 --> 00:34:59.880
people say that you should be wary of and be careful of while you're.

487
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.920
dating versus, you know, okay, well, we've already committed ourselves to each other.

488
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:07.440
We're engaged. And so therefore we can start, you know, doing this and whatever.

489
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:14.640
So my point is, that's just an example of, of, um, of the, of the difference that there

490
00:35:14.640 --> 00:35:22.080
is a difference in pursuing. There's different levels of, um, of, um, intimacy in pursuit of

491
00:35:22.080 --> 00:35:26.960
the Lord with other people. And so it depends on who the person is as to what level of intimacy

492
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:33.120
that you invite them into when approaching the Lord about particular things or, or whatever.

493
00:35:33.120 --> 00:35:40.720
So, um, um, so anyway, there, there is a difference between, um, between a, um, a husband and wife

494
00:35:40.720 --> 00:35:47.760
and the types of things that they go to work for the D the degree to which they, they, they very

495
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:56.240
passionately, um, approach God. Um, I wish I knew how to describe that, but like the types of things

496
00:35:56.240 --> 00:36:00.960
that the, that they ask the Lord and that they press into about him when they're with the other

497
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:06.800
person together with God, that they wouldn't do if they're with their pastor or their parents

498
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:12.880
or their friends or whatever, because it's too close. And it's just not something that,

499
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:19.760
that, um, you, that other people need to be invited into that sacred space with you for,

500
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:25.600
but your husband that you were one with can be invited into the sacredness of that space because

501
00:36:25.680 --> 00:36:33.600
you're now one, you're not two, you're one. Um, now you're not asking this, but I'm just mentioning

502
00:36:33.600 --> 00:36:38.960
this. It's kind of like to, to just, uh, because it's kind of like, um, something that someone

503
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:44.560
could bring up like, okay, we say that you're one, but there is a level to which remember that

504
00:36:44.560 --> 00:36:50.400
we're individually responsible to the Lord of our, in our relationship with him. He takes that

505
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:56.080
very seriously and doesn't even want a spouse to get in the way is in, he doesn't want us to

506
00:36:56.080 --> 00:37:01.920
idolize our spouse above, you know, above him, you know, so between us and God or anything.

507
00:37:03.680 --> 00:37:10.320
And there's the thing of like, when spouses are on separate pages with God, there is that level

508
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:15.920
of accountability that each individual has, including the wife that has with God. There

509
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.760
are certain things though, again, I'm not wanting to make all this complicated. I'm just kind of

510
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:25.440
mentioning a variety of things here, um, that kind of come into play with the Lord and spouses.

511
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:29.120
And my husband and I are still learning this. We've only been married seven and a half months.

512
00:37:29.120 --> 00:37:34.240
So we're still learning this ourselves that, um, the, uh, but I have been talking to people about

513
00:37:34.240 --> 00:37:38.400
these types of things before I was married, because what I was doing was I was having to

514
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:45.040
rely on the Lord to tell me, you know, and, and to just access this information by, by the spirit,

515
00:37:45.040 --> 00:37:49.520
because I didn't have experience to lean on. So anyway, I'm just telling you what it is.

516
00:37:49.680 --> 00:37:55.280
I know what I understand so far. Um, but, um, also there is the thing of like, and how, when wives

517
00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:00.400
submit to their husbands and say, for instance, that this husband is doing set, um, believes very

518
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:07.440
different than the wife about certain things of how to approach God or, um, um, what God expects

519
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:14.160
them to do or how God expects them to do it and whatnot. And there is a way that, that, that God

520
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:23.360
desire that, um, God understands and desires for us to come under the protection of the husband.

521
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:27.040
Even if, even if we're thinking, yeah, but God's revealed something different to me,

522
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you know? So I think that we should do this X, Y, Z, unless what the husband's talking about is a

523
00:38:33.680 --> 00:38:40.400
out now major, you know, sin or something there's, there's a, there's a way in which God says, I know

524
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:46.480
that I've revealed this to you, but it's important for you to come under the protection of your

525
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:51.280
husband. And it's your husband that I'm holding accountable for how he's leading his family.

526
00:38:52.160 --> 00:38:57.520
You know? So there's an aspect in which what God's requiring of you is to come under the

527
00:38:57.520 --> 00:39:04.320
submission of, of your husband, what he believes that God is expecting of y'all and how he's

528
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:10.640
offering his spiritual protection and his authority in the spirit to cover you. What God

529
00:39:10.640 --> 00:39:15.680
sees is that covering. And he sees you coming underneath that covering, as opposed to him,

530
00:39:15.680 --> 00:39:22.080
seeing you as disobeying him because you're doing it. You're, you're, you're following your, you're

531
00:39:22.080 --> 00:39:27.520
not doing the thing that he revealed to you. You're actually doing the thing that your husband

532
00:39:27.520 --> 00:39:31.280
believes that God has said, but you don't believe in your own relationship with Lord,

533
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:35.040
that that's right. You know what I'm saying? But what God does is he honors the fact that you're,

534
00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:40.960
that you're choosing to come under the protection of your husband in honor of the Lord, that he's

535
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:46.800
the one he's given you, et cetera. So, and then a lot of, and then a lot of times what we realized

536
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is that our husbands were right. And we weren't. And that what our husbands were saying that they

537
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:55.200
were receiving from the Lord that they should do really was what they should do was really what we

538
00:39:55.200 --> 00:39:59.760
should do. But because think about it, if both of you have, have a contradictory.

539
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:06.960
I just not all the time, sometimes they're both right, but sometimes one of you was wrong

540
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.560
and it's not always them.

541
00:40:09.560 --> 00:40:10.560
Sometimes it's us.

542
00:40:10.560 --> 00:40:16.360
So anyway, there's, there's a, a very added measure of protection that women are offered

543
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:23.040
of being able to offset the, the, a response, a measure of responsibility to the husband

544
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that the husband has to carry.

545
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:28.740
So it's it's really interesting how all of that works.

546
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So as much as, you know, women complain about, Oh, well, you know, I, I want to be able to

547
00:40:32.180 --> 00:40:34.580
do this and I want to be able to do that.

548
00:40:34.580 --> 00:40:38.300
And some women have thought that they've gotten like the short end of the deal.

549
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They don't understand that what it is that they're being offered is they're being offered

550
00:40:41.420 --> 00:40:49.020
protection and being offered the, being offered the ability to be protected without accountability

551
00:40:49.020 --> 00:40:53.640
while the husband is the one being held accountable and there's, there's something that she didn't

552
00:40:53.640 --> 00:40:55.580
have to carry now.

553
00:40:55.580 --> 00:40:59.740
So, but there's responsibility that comes with that of like, we have to let, let go

554
00:40:59.740 --> 00:41:05.500
of this other thing in order to be allowed to, in order to receive the, the benefit of

555
00:41:05.500 --> 00:41:06.500
the protection.

556
00:41:06.500 --> 00:41:10.180
It also means that there are certain things that we would normally do if we were independent

557
00:41:10.180 --> 00:41:12.140
that now we can't do.

558
00:41:12.140 --> 00:41:16.300
So anyway, but I, so I see it as a positive as opposed to a negative.

559
00:41:16.300 --> 00:41:20.140
I see it a positive of like coming into the protection of being offered that, and now

560
00:41:20.140 --> 00:41:23.300
we don't have to carry a responsibility that they do.

561
00:41:23.300 --> 00:41:29.780
But so anyway, so I just kind of like touched on a whole bunch of things related to, you

562
00:41:29.780 --> 00:41:33.420
know, husbands and wives and our relationship, Lord, how all that works together.

563
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But did I at least answer your question in there somewhere?

564
00:41:36.420 --> 00:41:37.420
Yes.

565
00:41:37.420 --> 00:41:38.420
Okay.

566
00:41:38.420 --> 00:41:39.420
You did.

567
00:41:39.420 --> 00:41:40.420
You did.

568
00:41:40.420 --> 00:41:41.420
And I was going to save it in me.

569
00:41:41.420 --> 00:41:42.420
I'm like, I need to take notes.

570
00:41:42.420 --> 00:41:46.660
I don't have my phone here with me.

571
00:41:46.660 --> 00:41:48.060
But yes, you did.

572
00:41:48.060 --> 00:41:52.060
And I think I know for me, I know I'm in also in a reader's probably listening, like, what

573
00:41:52.060 --> 00:41:53.740
in the heck is she talking about?

574
00:41:53.740 --> 00:41:55.540
Like, Timmy, what are you?

575
00:41:55.540 --> 00:42:01.980
But anyway, I'm like, I also know that it's the context of like, you know, the health

576
00:42:01.980 --> 00:42:02.980
of the marriage.

577
00:42:02.980 --> 00:42:07.700
And like, is he loving you like you love, like he loves the church is like, is he really

578
00:42:07.700 --> 00:42:13.980
listening to God, you know, like just point blank period, you know, so that's a, that's

579
00:42:13.980 --> 00:42:21.460
a bit of a struggle, you know, between you and God to add, I mean, it's a, it's a difficult

580
00:42:21.860 --> 00:42:22.860
position.

581
00:42:22.860 --> 00:42:25.820
Like, what do you do in a situation like this?

582
00:42:25.820 --> 00:42:35.500
And so there's our, there are particular I don't know, it's there's a way in which you

583
00:42:35.500 --> 00:42:40.900
still can take advantage of what it is that I've just described, and choosing to come

584
00:42:40.900 --> 00:42:44.020
under his protection.

585
00:42:44.020 --> 00:42:51.020
And and then God, and because that's what God has given you to spiritually protect you,

586
00:42:51.580 --> 00:42:56.900
Even if your husband isn't fully even say if he were an unbeliever, so I'm not, not

587
00:42:56.900 --> 00:43:00.580
yours, but like, it's somebody else's, you know, somebody who's married to an unbeliever,

588
00:43:00.580 --> 00:43:05.300
there's an aspect still that God has given them to protect them in their unbelieving

589
00:43:05.300 --> 00:43:06.300
husband.

590
00:43:06.300 --> 00:43:10.740
But then there are also ways that he's like, I know the unbelieving husband isn't protecting

591
00:43:10.740 --> 00:43:15.340
you in the way that I try to equip my sons to protect you.

592
00:43:15.340 --> 00:43:20.760
If you had married one of them, he says, so in that way, I'm protecting you.

593
00:43:21.500 --> 00:43:26.840
Because he doesn't, he doesn't leave his, he doesn't leave his children, men or women,

594
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:30.920
but specifically talking about women in a situation like this, he doesn't leave women

595
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:38.440
on, I don't know, in lack, and uncovered, he chooses the Lord, the Lord says this in

596
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.960
the Bible that he steps in and he helps the orphans and the widows.

597
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:46.000
And he takes responsibility for them.

598
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:52.080
So because he meant for them to be covered, he meant for them to be, to be taken care

599
00:43:52.080 --> 00:43:53.080
of.

600
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And if that is not being done, it says that God himself steps in and does it.

601
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:01.480
And so that's what I would always lean on whenever I was single.

602
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:06.560
So the point is, whatever is not, whatever it is that you're not being covered by in

603
00:44:06.560 --> 00:44:12.840
the way that God intended you to be spiritually or otherwise, God himself offers to you to

604
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:13.840
do that.

605
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:21.720
Cause God does not leave you in a place of lack because somebody, uh, and, uh, and, uh,

606
00:44:21.720 --> 00:44:30.760
in a way to not be able to receive that with, um, if even if you are in a place where, um,

607
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:37.720
where a physical person isn't providing that God's not limited by other people.

608
00:44:37.720 --> 00:44:41.720
Um, and you are, he's very jealous of you.

609
00:44:41.720 --> 00:44:46.520
And so he, if you aren't being provided for in certain ways, he himself will step in to

610
00:44:46.520 --> 00:44:50.320
provide it for you unless he brings it through another person.

611
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:54.480
So now again, God chooses what provision means.

612
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:56.360
God chooses what provision looks like.

613
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:58.480
He chooses what covering looks like.

614
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:00.000
Um, so it may not look.

615
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.320
look or feel the same, um, as it would, you know, if, if we have like a man in

616
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:10.580
our lives, um, who's doing what it is that God has always intended men to do.

617
00:45:11.060 --> 00:45:16.100
Um, but it does mean that, so even if it didn't look the same and we have a hard

618
00:45:16.100 --> 00:45:20.560
time, like seeing ourselves being protected and provided for when the man

619
00:45:20.560 --> 00:45:24.500
isn't doing X, Y, and Z, it doesn't mean that God's not doing it.

620
00:45:24.520 --> 00:45:27.160
We just have to truly rely on him to do that.

621
00:45:27.160 --> 00:45:29.420
And that has to be our relationship with the Lord that, okay, God,

622
00:45:29.420 --> 00:45:32.100
you're, you're, you're, I'm relying on you for this.

623
00:45:32.740 --> 00:45:38.900
And, um, and I'm asking that you show me where it is, but so often I don't

624
00:45:38.900 --> 00:45:40.820
even ask God to show me where it is.

625
00:45:40.820 --> 00:45:42.180
I just ask him to do it.

626
00:45:42.900 --> 00:45:44.600
And then I just trust that he's doing it.

627
00:45:45.380 --> 00:45:49.940
And, and I have to be careful to then not take things that look like the opposite

628
00:45:49.940 --> 00:45:53.580
in my life and use them in accusation against him saying, see God, you're not

629
00:45:53.580 --> 00:45:58.420
doing it that, that really does not go with God accusation.

630
00:45:58.660 --> 00:46:04.740
So anyway, but yeah, he, he makes sure that you are provided for if you offer

631
00:46:04.740 --> 00:46:09.940
yourself to him in that place to be covered, if you're trying to cover

632
00:46:09.940 --> 00:46:14.480
yourself because the man isn't, or because somebody else that should be

633
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:17.700
like a father or whatever, isn't, and you try to do it yourself, well,

634
00:46:17.700 --> 00:46:18.940
there's no place for God to do it.

635
00:46:19.020 --> 00:46:20.980
Cause again, that's eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and

636
00:46:20.980 --> 00:46:25.060
evil, or you're choosing to, to provide your own provision and protection.

637
00:46:25.540 --> 00:46:30.380
My point is that if no one else is doing it and you are vulnerable and you are not

638
00:46:30.380 --> 00:46:36.020
trying to, uh, you're not trying to work for yourself, you're not trying to earn

639
00:46:36.020 --> 00:46:40.020
it by the sweat of your brow or whatever protection provision covering, whatever

640
00:46:40.020 --> 00:46:43.940
we're talking about, if you were truly relying on the Lord, God will come in

641
00:46:43.940 --> 00:46:45.220
and he will do it, period.

642
00:46:45.900 --> 00:46:50.500
Even if somebody else was given the opportunity to do it like a husband,

643
00:46:51.460 --> 00:46:54.700
if it's not being done, God promises that he does it.

644
00:46:55.060 --> 00:46:55.580
Hands down.

645
00:46:56.460 --> 00:46:57.060
No question.

646
00:46:57.860 --> 00:47:01.140
So we have to allow him to do it though, and not be doing it ourselves

647
00:47:01.140 --> 00:47:05.020
and not be accusing him of not doing it because he, like I said,

648
00:47:05.020 --> 00:47:06.220
he's just to take accusation.

649
00:47:06.220 --> 00:47:08.540
Well, so anyway, thank you.

650
00:47:08.820 --> 00:47:09.740
You're welcome.

651
00:47:11.220 --> 00:47:12.140
See what time is it?

652
00:47:12.260 --> 00:47:13.860
Oh, you have a few more minutes.

653
00:47:14.300 --> 00:47:15.540
You wouldn't have anything.

654
00:47:21.660 --> 00:47:23.020
Wish I had something.

655
00:47:23.500 --> 00:47:23.980
Don't.

656
00:47:25.660 --> 00:47:29.540
Yeah, I'll say something real quick and then I'll leave room for Rita.

657
00:47:29.540 --> 00:47:31.940
If she wants to say something, I'll leave time for her too.

658
00:47:32.820 --> 00:47:35.460
Um, that was good, Ashley.

659
00:47:35.900 --> 00:47:42.900
That was, um, because I think I've done some of the while single and

660
00:47:42.900 --> 00:47:47.820
married, trying to cover myself and, and, uh, taking care of myself.

661
00:47:47.820 --> 00:47:52.980
And I, I got the, the, uh, honor of doing, uh, finishing up a core

662
00:47:53.020 --> 00:47:55.860
healing session today with Oaks rising.

663
00:47:56.580 --> 00:48:00.180
And, uh, it was really good, but part of that came out as an, as

664
00:48:00.180 --> 00:48:05.420
to, as far as the not in rest to speaking of the rest is that, you

665
00:48:05.420 --> 00:48:10.460
know, there was some anxiety there that, that we kind of dealt with

666
00:48:10.460 --> 00:48:16.180
some of that today too, but definitely some, some of that, um, me trying

667
00:48:16.180 --> 00:48:21.860
to take care of me, you know, has been, uh, I think has been kind

668
00:48:21.860 --> 00:48:27.060
of prevalent in my life and, and, you know, kind of times I think of

669
00:48:27.060 --> 00:48:34.540
letting God do that, um, and, um, but times of not trusting, I guess,

670
00:48:34.540 --> 00:48:38.860
you know, and so when you're not trusting, you know, at least for me,

671
00:48:38.860 --> 00:48:43.540
I think I've stepped in that place of trying to, and then you're into

672
00:48:43.540 --> 00:48:46.420
striving and you're not letting God do it.

673
00:48:46.420 --> 00:48:50.380
And then, um, yeah, a lot of things came out today.

674
00:48:51.060 --> 00:48:54.020
It was, uh, it was really good.

675
00:48:54.260 --> 00:49:02.220
It was, uh, um, yeah, uh, last, last couple of sessions we had, it's

676
00:49:02.220 --> 00:49:05.740
taken several sessions to, to just get through my core session to get

677
00:49:05.740 --> 00:49:09.580
through my core second, taking me several sessions, cause we kind of

678
00:49:09.580 --> 00:49:13.620
get stopped maybe in some things going on right now and stuff.

679
00:49:13.620 --> 00:49:19.580
So, uh, but yeah, the fact that we have to let God do it or let our

680
00:49:19.580 --> 00:49:25.580
husband do it, you know, whichever, you know, um, cause we can stand in

681
00:49:25.580 --> 00:49:27.780
that way and in the way of it.

682
00:49:27.780 --> 00:49:34.100
And, uh, yeah, so had a lot of, a lot of good stuff, a lot of good stuff

683
00:49:34.100 --> 00:49:36.820
is kind of coming to the surface and I'm good.

684
00:49:37.180 --> 00:49:37.680
Yeah.

685
00:49:38.100 --> 00:49:38.600
Yeah.

686
00:49:39.020 --> 00:49:44.060
So basically the, the way that we can see it, especially from a woman's

687
00:49:44.060 --> 00:49:52.100
perspective is that we're called to receive our, the protection that our

688
00:49:52.100 --> 00:49:56.620
husband is offering or the protection that God is offering, you know, whichever

689
00:49:56.620 --> 00:49:59.980
one we're talking about, same thing that we choose to receive.

690
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.400
see protection from either one of them in the way that they choose to offer it.

691
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.520
We don't get to control what it looks like.

692
00:50:08.080 --> 00:50:12.240
We don't get to control the decision they make, what they think is actually

693
00:50:12.240 --> 00:50:15.360
the wise thing to protect us, but they think actually will protect us,

694
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.240
but we don't get to choose that.

695
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:20.640
We have to rely on them to do that.

696
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:26.240
And we just hands off for us, which is risky, which is, you know, there's,

697
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:29.720
there's this, there's this potential of disappointment.

698
00:50:29.720 --> 00:50:31.200
There's this potential of hurt.

699
00:50:31.640 --> 00:50:33.080
I mean, that's a risk in everything.

700
00:50:33.080 --> 00:50:37.800
And like in trusting someone in loving someone, whatever is to choose

701
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.760
to receive what they choose to offer.

702
00:50:41.520 --> 00:50:44.640
We don't get to say, Hey, look, I want you to protect me.

703
00:50:44.640 --> 00:50:48.440
And here's the conditions, you know, I want it to look like this.

704
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:50.880
And if it doesn't look like this, well, then it's not really protection.

705
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:52.520
Therefore, no, you're not really doing it.

706
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:56.400
We don't get to, we don't, that's, that's not our place anymore.

707
00:50:56.840 --> 00:51:02.920
So what it is that we're actually doing is we're actually choosing and we're

708
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:09.240
actually called to to just receive whatever it is that either one of them offers.

709
00:51:09.640 --> 00:51:11.840
And so that's, that's why it's so.

710
00:51:12.520 --> 00:51:14.280
That's why it's so scary.

711
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:17.040
And that's like, I said, that's what it is that we're called to do.

712
00:51:17.520 --> 00:51:22.760
And, and so, because it's more than just like, well, they're stronger.

713
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:26.760
And so they're the ones who are going to get to, you know, have their way.

714
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:34.400
And I don't get to, you know, I'm, I'm arguing and, and, um, and, uh, you

715
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:38.000
know, hoping that my argument wins and, and et cetera, that's, that's

716
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:40.120
not really what's going on.

717
00:51:40.120 --> 00:51:44.640
What's going on is that we're called to actually just receive

718
00:51:44.640 --> 00:51:46.000
what it is that they want to offer.

719
00:51:46.040 --> 00:51:49.040
I don't mean that we can't have a say in the conversation.

720
00:51:49.040 --> 00:51:49.880
That's not what I mean.

721
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:57.440
I'm talking about the fact that it's not, um, you know, that we're, um, uh,

722
00:51:57.600 --> 00:52:01.080
that if, uh, we think it should be done in one way and he thinks that

723
00:52:01.080 --> 00:52:05.960
it should be done in another, well, then we just argue about the legitimacy

724
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:11.240
of our side until he, until he buckles, you know, until he wins.

725
00:52:11.240 --> 00:52:11.520
Why?

726
00:52:11.520 --> 00:52:15.720
Because logic wins the day, you know, and it's just so obvious, you know?

727
00:52:15.720 --> 00:52:19.000
And so therefore, if you're not doing it, you're not doing what I suggest.

728
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:21.120
Therefore, it's not actually protection.

729
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:23.000
And therefore I don't have to follow it.

730
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:24.560
Therefore I don't have to submit to it.

731
00:52:25.040 --> 00:52:30.920
That's like, no, no, you, they I'm, I'm holding them accountable for the

732
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.560
choices that they're making for the decisions that they're making for.

733
00:52:33.560 --> 00:52:35.640
I'm holding them accountable for protecting you.

734
00:52:36.240 --> 00:52:39.520
So that's a huge responsibility that I'm holding them to.

735
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:46.200
And so you then are called to help, um, to take the risk of receiving the mode

736
00:52:46.200 --> 00:52:47.920
of protection that they're offering.

737
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:49.080
And that's hard.

738
00:52:49.600 --> 00:52:52.040
It's very hard, but that's what it is that we do.

739
00:52:52.040 --> 00:52:57.520
It's just a, um, and so women, if you do it like this, women are the,

740
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:03.040
are the picture to all of humanity, both to men and to women of what it

741
00:53:03.040 --> 00:53:05.560
should look like to submit to God.

742
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:11.800
Because what we, they should see by how we submit to our husbands

743
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:14.120
that, that, that our husband should see.

744
00:53:14.120 --> 00:53:16.360
That's how they are called to submit to God.

745
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:22.480
So we're, we, we have, uh, so it, that, that picture is very important.

746
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:24.120
It's very important for humanity.

747
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:28.160
So there are things that men are supposed to do that and express and

748
00:53:28.160 --> 00:53:35.640
give a picture to humanity about who God is, um, and, um, and, and how,

749
00:53:35.720 --> 00:53:39.720
you know, and, and his love and, and what it is he's willing to offer of

750
00:53:39.720 --> 00:53:44.400
himself and to die of, and to, and of himself, and I don't know, just all

751
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:48.920
kinds of things and, and, you know, his strength and his ability and his

752
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:53.840
whatever, you know, that's what it is that they, they show that plus many

753
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.000
other things, um, they express of God.

754
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.280
For instance, fathers identify us.

755
00:53:58.560 --> 00:54:02.320
We get our sense of identity of who we are as beings and who we

756
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:04.760
are as genders from our father.

757
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:08.520
Both men and women get their, a sense of identity as a gender

758
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:10.040
from a father, not a mother.

759
00:54:10.520 --> 00:54:13.480
Um, including women, you know, meaning like little girls.

760
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:16.880
Well, that's a picture of the fact that we get our identity from our father.

761
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:19.760
We get our sense of identity, meaning like from father God.

762
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:24.480
Um, and so men have their role in how they are called and being held

763
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:28.880
accountable by God to express him in a particular way so that we finally

764
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:32.680
have a human picture of what God is trying to get us to understand about

765
00:54:32.680 --> 00:54:35.200
himself, women do the same thing.

766
00:54:35.720 --> 00:54:41.440
We express and present in a particular way, the way the church

767
00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:43.120
is supposed to respond to God.

768
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:47.920
This people is what it's supposed to look like by how we submit to our

769
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:50.560
husbands, how we treat our husbands, you know, however, whatever.

770
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:56.800
And, um, it's very hard, you know, um, it, because we have fear.

771
00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.040
It's like, what if I'm having to trust someone else?

772
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:00.400
Awesome.

773
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:02.280
I have a different opinion or whatever.

774
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:07.380
Um, so it can be very scary, but it's, it's a picture of the risk that

775
00:55:07.380 --> 00:55:09.440
we take that God really is that good.

776
00:55:10.720 --> 00:55:13.560
We're taking that risk on our husband, that our husband really is that good,

777
00:55:13.660 --> 00:55:16.780
that he really is that kind that he really is that whatever, and again,

778
00:55:16.780 --> 00:55:23.580
remember that, you know, we're all in different situations and, um, and it

779
00:55:23.580 --> 00:55:28.600
just depends on, um, it, that if there's a way in which we're not being covered,

780
00:55:29.500 --> 00:55:34.200
even if they have all great intentions, you know, even if, if there is a way in

781
00:55:34.200 --> 00:55:40.520
which we're not being covered, if we offer ourselves to the Lord to be

782
00:55:40.520 --> 00:55:41.840
covered by him, he will.

783
00:55:43.080 --> 00:55:48.160
Um, and so we're always in a, in a position to be covered without having

784
00:55:48.160 --> 00:55:53.040
any responsibility to be held accountable for anything they're being held

785
00:55:53.040 --> 00:55:57.360
accountable, we're not, but we're always protected because if we're not

786
00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:59.440
if we're not protected by our husbands, we're protected by our

787
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:00.840
father, but you meaning God.

788
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:02.600
So either way we're protected.

789
00:56:02.600 --> 00:56:06.280
We've got a really real women have in, in, in that manner of speaking,

790
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:08.040
you have a very, very, very good deal.

791
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:09.200
No.

792
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:12.960
So anyway, okay.

793
00:56:14.200 --> 00:56:15.200
You're welcome.

794
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:22.440
Well, anything, Brita, before we jump off, no, I think I was, I was sitting here

795
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:26.240
thinking, I think she's very excited that she doesn't have to unmute herself.

796
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:29.200
Okay.

797
00:56:29.200 --> 00:56:30.000
Everyone.

798
00:56:30.240 --> 00:56:30.760
Good night.

799
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:31.840
It's good to see y'all.

800
00:56:32.720 --> 00:56:33.200
Bye.
