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Thank you.

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Hey, Alana.

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Long time to talk.

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My goodness, I completely forgot that I had not posted a post two hours ago, and that we were meeting I've just been planning, you know, all week oh obviously we're meeting.

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I forgot to that I usually have a bit of a routine to make sure everybody remembers.

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But anyway, so, hey.

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I was about to jump on and awesome I thought, oh my word, forgot to remind everybody the link it's always the same link, but forgot to remind everybody of it so y'all are impressive, y'all know the routine, but unless I stay at say otherwise.

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We meet.

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Excuse me, so sorry for that.

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For the congestion. I have been allergies hit me on.

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I think Sunday night, something like that. So, anyway, so been doing my eucalyptus oil.

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So I don't know if y'all use this this has helped me amazingly. And I've never been told to use it this way. So, use it your own risk.

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I used to have sinus infections, every time I would get anything related to sinus, sinuses, and I mean like it did not matter how many, if I stayed, you know, on target with all of my decongestants, you know, every four hours or whatever I would just get

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sinus infections and I and I didn't know why so I started doing the eucalyptus, and, and all I do is I sniff it. That's all I do. I do one large sniff in each nostril again use it your own risk because I've never been told that that's okay.

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But I do. And so, you know, because you can put I think that you can you know put this on your skin and stuff but so I just inhale it and all I know is I have not had a sinus infection in three years.

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So, I know it works.

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You know, should come with the doctor with the disclaimer, you know, don't, don't try this at home or ask your physician.

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Or ask arrest Cheryl Flair or Carrie Byler or Cheryl's last name.

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I'm forgetting your last name.

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It starts with an S. Why can't I remember her last name, I've gone blank. I know her.

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I know her well. But anyway, so ask any of them and they'll tell you whether or not it's okay.

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So does anyone what time is it a staff.

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Let's see. Yeah. Does anyone have a.

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Hey, does anyone have a question to start us off with tonight. Next week, I will tell you this next week we're not going to be doing a conference.

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Hey, I mean not be doing a conference you're not going to be doing a first night caucus well it'll be first night of the conference but.

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I have a really vain sounding question does my picture look like really weird to you guys.

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No, you're slightly off center but no there's no.

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My zoom, it worked great for Bailey for speech, but on my end, it looks like one of grainy old TVs, and this is what the tablet pointed straight at me and you see my TV behind me.

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So I have it.

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It's really weird.

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I used to have lights on for once, my husband's not home so yeah I noticed my camera because I can't stand to look at that. Oh yeah.

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In the daylight or, well, and the light. Yeah, you look great.

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Um, let's see. So, um, I haven't watched it yet, but there is, I saw it today on YouTube. It tells you how to make yourself show up right on zoom that I don't know. I didn't watch it. So I don't know how to do it, but it says how to make your picture look real nice when you're on zoom. So I'm going to go back and watch that.

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Oh, good. Yeah. Yeah. Um, Diane is leading a mentor, a coach mentoring group. And so she and I were talking about that, um, earlier. And, uh, so yeah, so she's going to be on zoom and she'll need to know about how to do that.

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I've watched some of those things. Hey, I've watched some of those things and yeah, it's helpful. So like I have this light in, um, in front of me. I mean, even though it's not like the best lighting, trust me with my, with all of my makeup,

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like slowly coming off throughout the day with all of the, the watery eyes.

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Hey, sweetheart.

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And, uh, this lighting is really good for me tonight.

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Let's, let's keep it this way.

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So I noticed that right before I got on the call, I was like, Oh my goodness, my makeup is like slowly come off. I'll say that.

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I have a question if we want to.

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I was about to ask. Yeah, I figured, I figured.

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I don't have to go first though if someone else wants to, I just thought I'd hop in with something. Go for it. If someone else has something they can, they can ask it later. So you hopped on first.

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Um, I just know I usually ask questions on these calls. I don't want to take up all the space. They're very, they're very useful. Everyone gets a lot of use out of them.

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That's good. That's good. Um, so at church on Sunday and in my like small group village.

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We're talking about the fruits of the spirit and the fruit of the spirit this week was gentleness.

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And I don't know if you've experienced this of me but I'm very like cut to the chase, you know, pointed out cut and dry shoot straight from the hip that's kind of who I am.

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Not that it has to be who I continue to be, but it's just kind of who I am.

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And I don't know I was like praying about it I'm like Lord is this something you want to change in me like am I to point. Am I should I be a little more of a wave than a point, is it.

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Do I come across as not gentle or not really giving off his spirit, because I present myself in a way that's like I just like cutting to the chase and kind of like going deep into something pretty quickly like I don't really.

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I can do niceties and all that but it's just not my preference I'd more like, hey, how's it going, how's it really going what's going on in your life like let's just go deep right away right and the people I surround myself with are great they love

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that and they get it. And I guess I'm looking at like, am I gentle enough, is there something I should be changing about myself so that I'm more gentle and more shining God's light because I don't really know that I am.

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I don't know what the experience other people have of me and I wouldn't want to be in a position where I'm so cut and dry that people are not seeing God at all through me you know what I mean.

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Is this making sense.

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Mm hmm. Yeah.

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And for one thing gentleness is very different than what your, you know what you're describing your concern is that oh well I'm doing this but I'm not doing this so am I not being gentle it's gentleness is very different and for another.

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And you, I, in my interactions with you and I would imagine, unless you have like really close connections with different people in this group like for instance you know maybe Susan and some others that you're connected with before you joined.

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I might be the one that you've connected with the most often, and I can tell you that having seen you, you know, in times where you're really struggling and you're really wondering, and times where you are you know feeling much more energized much more hopeful much more happy.

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You're, you're, you're fine in all of them, you're, you're the, there's not anything that's rough or, or, or to direct or or anything like that, the invite by to direct I'm talking about like emotionally to direct for for someone else.

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Now the other thing is you're talking about the fact that all of the people that you surround yourself with are are okay with it. Well, that's because those are the people that are attracted to you.

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And then there are people that maybe you know I don't know but maybe if you've ever felt rejected.

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by people before you're like, well, I want to be their friend.

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Why don't they want to be friends with me?

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Maybe they, they couldn't handle that.

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They don't want that.

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And just because either it's their personality or they have an insecurity.

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Um, like, because you're asking, you were making yourself vulnerable and you're

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asking if someone wants to be vulnerable with you as well, and if they don't have

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the security where they want to do that, well, then they're, then they're going

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to try to find friendship elsewhere.

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It doesn't mean that there's something wrong with you.

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It just means that the way you want to live life and how it is that you express

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your, that, um, how your spirit is expressed into the earth, uh, just

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doesn't jive or resonate with, with perhaps, um, the way that their spirit

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is interacting in the, in the earth or how they understand it to be, or what

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their, what their current woundings are, you know, so, um, so I just

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wanted to encourage you in that.

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Um, I, I, my interactions with you, um, uh, that I would imagine that you're

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always very, uh, very, you know, kind, very thoughtful towards others, meaning

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like you always have been whenever I've talked to you and whenever you talked

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about other people in your interactions with them, I've gotten the impression

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that you're always like that.

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And so, uh, so just want to encourage you in that.

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And then a gentleness is like a gentleness of spirit.

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It's a fruit of the spirit, meaning that's who it is that you actually

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are, not something that you do.

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So if you're wanting, if we're wanting certain aspects of the fruits of the

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spirit to express themselves more strongly, all we're, all we need to do

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is we already are everything we've ever wanted to be, but our soul, you know,

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in our spirit, but our soul needs to learn it.

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And the only reason that our soul isn't expressing that right now, if, if it's

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not in particular areas is the level to which we're resisting God, where we have

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some accusation against him, something about him that we don't believe, um, or

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whatever.

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And the more that we come in, the more that we release our resistance, the more

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that we come into agreement with it, with the fact that he is, we says that he is

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to the degree that he says that he is that in all of these different aspects of

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our lives to the absolute nth degree.

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And all of those that will allow who it is that we are in spirit, including all

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the fruits of the spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, you know, kindness,

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gentleness, all that to actually come through.

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Um, so the, so it's, so as far as, you know, what, how it is that you already,

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how it is that you come across, that's my two cents worth for my interactions

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with you over the past several months.

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And then as far as like, okay, well, if I'm wanting to express more gentleness

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or more of anything, how do I do that?

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You already are it.

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And the, the, so the answer to it is the same as the, our answers to all of our

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other questions is releasing more, releasing more and more of our resistance

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and coming into more and more agreement with the fact that God is who he says

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that he is, the more that we do that.

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Without even trying to address stillness without even trying to address

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patience, without trying to specifically address anything, just believing that

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he is who he says that he is will naturally start acting like we believe it.

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And so outcomes, this love that in the situation where normally we would be

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triggered or, you know, out would come patients or gentleness, where normally

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we would have reacted very different.

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And then when we find that, when we find where we responded, maybe with more

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gentleness, more love or whatever, we'll, we'll realize, well, wait a minute.

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Apparently when I used to interact in this situation in a different way,

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and I used to be triggered, I must have been, I must have, I must've been

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reacting that way out of a wounding.

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So many people that are very direct.

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I'm not saying this about you.

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I'm just throwing it out there so that people can just have it to chew on some

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people, and this might be true of you in certain aspects of your life.

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Like maybe with your husband, like someone you feel very, very comfortable

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with, there might be a side of you that's so direct that I just haven't seen or

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haven't seen much of or something.

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And so I'll just mention this, that sometimes if we are really, really,

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really extreme in a particular area, that it's good in balance, but we're extreme

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in it, whenever we're go to an extreme one end or the opposite end, it's because

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of a wounding and we're using it as a coping mechanism, it's not who it is that

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we are, it's something that we have, that it's a habit that we've developed of

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interacting with our world in a particular way from such a young age or for so long

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that we think it's who it is that we are.

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Sometimes we can even develop ideas of who it is we think that we are when we're

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going through a healing process.

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And I.

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Can't believe I'm, I thought of this, but I thought of this just now.

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And so I'm going to mention it that when we're going through a major healing

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process, um, okay, this is a perfect example.

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I've actually watched this in somebody else's life.

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They were, and they were trying to learn to speak up for themselves because they

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were allowing themselves to be a doormat their whole life.

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So they're trying to learn to speak for themselves and speak up.

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And what they ended up doing is going from this extreme to this one.

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They got entirely to the direct isn't the right word, but I'm just going to use that

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word to, to direct, to, to, um, forceful in what they refer to as their boundaries

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of respecting themselves, that it would actually, they bypassed, they bypassed

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their, what it is that they should have been aiming for, and they went

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too far the other direction.

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So sometimes in our healing process, we'll actually bypass the healthy, the

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healthy boundary and the healthy and the healthy balance, and we'll swing to the

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other end, and then we begin to learn, okay, that's, I've now swung too far to

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the other end, and then the Lord will kind of bring us back to balance.

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So some, so if ever we find ourselves in really major extremes, it's an evidence

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of some wounding that we have and how we're learning to respond to it.

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We've been responding to it like this for so long.

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Now I've learned that that's not healthy.

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So I now respond to the same wounding over here, but the, but in, from this

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direction, the problem with that is that the wound isn't being healed in either

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instance, and so it, we, when we finally heal, we naturally come back to a balance.

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We naturally find the balance.

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Uh, but in the process of healing, sometimes we, uh, we're, we're not,

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we're not healed yet, and we just learn to interact with the wound and cope with

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the wound from the opposite spectrum.

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So that was just something that I'm throwing in there because I thought of it

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as I, as I began to talk about how we would, how we would change, um, especially

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if there's something that we're worried about, about ourselves, like, well, am I

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too much one thing as opposed to another?

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It, sometimes, you know, as we, as we, um, submit ourselves more and more to the

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Lord and we find ourselves changing, we'll think, well, wait a minute.

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I thought that I was always that thing.

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And then when we realized, oh, that thing I thought was me was actually

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wound or it was actually a coping mechanism.

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And then there are other things that we find out.

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No, that really is me.

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And there's nothing wrong with it.

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And I keep being tempted to question myself that something's wrong with me,

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no matter what it is that I am, it's always wrong, you know, and then we

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have to find out and heal and realize, no, I'm just fine.

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There's I'm, I'm at a balance.

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There's, I'm not extreme and I'm just being made to question myself.

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So anyway, that's a whole bunch of thoughts.

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No, that's good.

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I think, I think it's just, I mean, your experience of me is pretty much the

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experience you've seen me kind of like all facets pretty much.

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And so I just find that I remember seeing that really strong direct

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side of you only one time and you've been through a lot of really serious

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things I've only seen it one time.

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And how, what was your experience when you saw it that one time?

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Was it like, oh my gosh, like this is harsh or was it anything like that?

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Well, understand it was, but it's because you were hurting really, really bad.

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And there was, there was everybody in this group has talked

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to me from a place of fear.

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I've heard fear in every single person in, in, in this group.

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I provide, I try to provide a safe place for people to be afraid because I want

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people to provide me a safe place and I'm afraid there's nothing wrong with it.

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And so what I was hearing was I was hearing fear.

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So therefore I can't take that kind of thing and think, oh my goodness.

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You know, I can't believe I know what's going on.

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I know that you're, that you're somewhere and you're trying to figure out, okay.

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I'm not where I, where I should be.

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I'm not, I shouldn't feel like this, but what else is there?

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It's this like a backed into a corner feeling.

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make them feel safe where they are, not to demand that they change before they

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can interact with you or they can, um, or, uh, to, to change before you'll

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provide safety, providing them safety where they are makes them feel okay.

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They really are serious.

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So now that I'm safe to be where it is that I am, I'm safe to be in my fear.

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I'm safe to be in my pain.

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Now I want to change.

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I thought I now feel safe enough to step into the unknown because the reason I

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stayed where I am is because I thought I don't feel safe and this is the

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most security I can find.

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So if I can get security here, I now am willing to risk because this is actually

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a very painful place to stay.

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I'm now willing to risk the fact that I might feel safe.

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If I stepped into the unknown, people aren't going to trust the unknown

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unless I make them feel safe.

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where they are. So that was my experience. It was, it's just

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very normal.

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came up for me was, how am I creating a safe space for

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people? Like, am I creating a safe space when I'm like, you

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know, direct about something when I call it as I see it. And

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when it's something that it's like a righteous, maybe not a

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righteous anger, but kind of pointing it out in a not a

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self-righteous, like, mean way, but kind of a notice and notice

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that this is happening. I feel like it comes up a lot in the

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students I teach, you know, the grade five students, if they,

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you know, like today, a student was upset because somebody else

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went in line in front of her when the other person was

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supposed to be in line in front of her. But I asked her to go

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and get another student from another class. And the girl was

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like, she tends to be like that a lot. Well, she went in front.

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Right. And I'm like, you know, you're, you're very concerned

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about what she's doing. You know, you're, what about what

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you're doing right now? Like, are you concerned about, you

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know, and so I pointed out in a way that I don't want to be

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harsh, but I'm also kind of like, I'm the teacher, and I'm

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trying to teach you things. And I want to do it in a way that's

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gentle. Yeah. And I, I know, I could probably use a softer

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tone, but I'm not really a sing songy kind of kindergarten

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teacher tone. That's just not me. And so I don't use it with

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my daughter. I don't use it with like, it's just not my tone. So

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yeah, and then I wonder, am I to create a safe space for people

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for my child for kids I teach? Am I supposed to be a little

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more sing songy? It's not gonna help people receive it better

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and feel safer. I don't know.

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your hand, Diane, I'll get right to you. And I wanted to let you

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know, I could see it. And the, okay, it's a really good

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question. Because, you know, so often people ask this question,

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like, and that, actually, how do we talk to someone in the

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spirit? Or actually, how do we provide a safe place? So great

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example. So in something like that, providing a safe place for

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someone is understanding, okay, if they're acting a particular

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way, if they're talking in a particular way, the issue isn't

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what's happening, the issue is what is is what they think it's

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saying about them. And, and so they're feeling scared. The

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issue isn't about the fact that someone cut in front of them in

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line, the fact is, they feel that they're not important. And

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they're making this deal, this thing here has been happening at

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home, it's been happening in school, all of these things are

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happening, and they're building up this idea in their mind of

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wait a minute, if things don't happen, if things happen a

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particular way, it means I'm not important. And so they're

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fighting for significance or whatever. So in other words, if

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some if something's being blown out of proportion, it always

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means that someone is is afraid that someone's insecure that

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someone is is in incorrectly interpret it putting a meaning

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on a situation about themselves. So, so what I do in situations

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like that is in is I believe that kids and you see this even

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with like, really little kids. I mean, have you have we watched

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really little kids just share and help each other. And you

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know, when they run a race when they're like four, or three or

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four, and they all run a race, they don't a lot of kids don't

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even have a concept of competition and beating each

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other. If they find that someone else has fallen down, or or

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whatever, then they'll run back. Or if they figure out they just

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I will, my friends running back there, and they don't run as

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fast as me, and I want to run with my friend. And so they

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backup to run with their friend. I mean, they're not thinking so

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in other words, these it's, it's innate in us, we're created of

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the essence of God. It's it's innate within us to, to give

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each other grace and to not allow those things to bother us.

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So the fact that we're acting counter to our nature counter to

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the way that God created us and thinking, wait a minute, so and

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so shouldn't have gone in front of me. And yes, there's an

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aspect of God's character that's coming into play and the fact

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that they're believing in order. So something like that I do, I

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handle one of two ways usually, with children and with a or even

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with adults, I do this as well. And the I address it sometimes

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it from a perspective of figuring out, okay, they're

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afraid right now they're or they don't feel significant. So I

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need to let them know in how I'm talking to them. Maybe not even

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what I say, like, I don't need to say that, oh, you're

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important. And whatever. I don't I don't usually direct it like

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that. But also something else that helps them understand and

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receive as a

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feeling that they're important. And so, because right now they're getting this feeling of

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unimportance and insignificant. So I'll give them a different feeling of importance. So I'm,

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I'm filling up the thing that prompted the fear that the issue isn't the thing that happened.

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They could care less about the thing that happened. It's what they think that that

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thing means and they're feeling something. So I changed the feeling. I changed the,

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by trying to change the belief. I can't change their feelings, but I can try to

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get them, give them an opportunity to choose to believe differently, which will change their

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feeling. And then, so I do that and sorry, there was one other thing I was going to say that I do

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when I'm talking to them about that. I make him, I changed their, their feeling of shoot,

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that other one was really important. Man, what was it? Give me, give me just a second.

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Surely it'll come back.

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Oh darn, man, that escapes me. If I think of it, I will let you know. But anyway,

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basically I don't talk about, I always address the actual, the, the person themselves and the

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fact that that's the, that's the issue and change the feeling and change their, their beliefs.

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Because it's not about the behavior, what it is that they've chosen or not chosen, because what

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they can, what people can receive in what we're saying is the truth. And we're trying to correct

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their truth about what it is that they believe is like, Oh no, no, no. You know, instead of,

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instead of seeing her is standing in front of you, you know, are, are you thinking about yourself?

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What we're trying to say is we're trying to say, no, no, no, you are better than you think that

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you are. But what that's doing is it's talking to the broken person and trying to push them up.

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Then they're always going to need someone on the outside to push them up. So what I do is I make

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them feel safe. In other words, I talk to who it is that they are up here and then they can,

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and then they can choose to respond and choose to rise. And so instead, if I talk to this person,

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if I talk about like trying to correct how they're thinking, like, well, you've been thinking this way,

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but maybe you should think this way because we're in such a broken and wounded state,

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especially in that moment, but at any moment that we're such a wounded state,

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we receive it as self-condemnation. So we actually end up receiving the very opposite

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message that we're trying to convey to someone we're trying to convey it. Look, you know,

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this is no big deal. You're, you're, you're, you're more than this. You're more important,

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but what they hear is, you know you know, I'm trying to get justice here. And instead I'm being

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told, well, wait a minute. I shouldn't be allowing the person to, I mean, I shouldn't be thinking

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how it is that I'm feeling is wrong. What it is I'm thinking it's wrong. Now I'm not saying that

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you're not accurate in what you're telling them. I'm saying they can't, they're seeing through the

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wrong filter. So anything that you say like that, it will go through that filter and that's how it

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will be received. So I've learned that in talking to people because I was speaking so directly and

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so much truth that they were hearing me wrong. So I'm like, oh, but that's not what I'm saying.

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Why are they twisting my words? And so I had to learn to talk and, and not say what it is that I

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thought would help them because not speak what I thought was the truth because they couldn't hear

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it anyway. So I had to, I had to make them feel safe where it is that they were, and then they

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would naturally change. Sorry. I think that that felt a little convoluted in how I explained that.

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And I really wish I could think of that other thing that, that I, it just escapes me.

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It is. And I think the one thing hanging, and I know there are other questions, but just like maybe

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for later is like, how do you speak to them in a way that will allow them to rise? Because I think

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my go-to in my mind right now, which probably isn't correct is I'd be like, how does that make

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you feel? And she'd probably be like, you know, sad. And I'd be like, oh, sweetie, you know, or,

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or whatever she says, like, I'd probably go into like my questioning mode, which I know is probably

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not correct. So. I thought of the other one. Okay. Okay. Good. It was when you explained it,

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I was like, oh, I know how to answer that. And then I was like, oh, that's the other thing I

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was going to say is, is as weird as it sounds. Think of the good in what it is that they're

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trying to do and affirm it that, you know, you know, so-and-so I don't know her name. I'll just

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call her Lisa, you know, Lisa one of the things that I've noticed about you, you know, that I

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really enjoyed and I'm just making something up, you know, you would know her better than me,

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but you know, you think about who it is that she actually is and what it is that you've watched

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in her life. Is this something that I could see telling her is, you know, Lisa is something that

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I've, that I really appreciate. And I want you to make sure that you value about your I don't know

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that I would say that value about yourself, but one of the things that I enjoy about you and that

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it's really, really good is the fact that you, that justice and order are very.

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important to you, that you like things to you like, you like to

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make sure that right is always being done and that people are

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always being treated fairly. And, and that is a really,

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really good thing. And I try not to make too big of a deal about

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it in the moment is in like, making this grandiose speech.

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I'm not trying to make a grandiose speech. I'm trying to

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talk. I see them as Christ sees them. I'm seeing this Christ

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sees them and I talked to that person and I like pour out in

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my spirit, not my words and not like saying a lot. But in my

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spirit, while I'm talking to them, I truly have to believe

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what it is that I'm saying. So I have to put on my own oxygen

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mask. First, I have to believe it. And then speak out of what

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it is that I believe in like, this is such a good thing that

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you believe in order and in an injustice and that that it's

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easy for you to recognize those are really good qualities. And

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most people, you know, can't see the things that you see. So I

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appreciate you pointing that out to me, due to this, you know,

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for today or for this situation, you know, you know, let's do

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this other thing, or you could then go into the making her

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feel safe. But those are the other thing. That's the other

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thing that I do. I not only try to address them emotionally,

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meaning like, yeah, change their belief, not on logic, but

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you know, hitting their emotions in the end, fill the void of

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what it is they're believing about themselves. And in the end,

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I try to affirm what it is that they've done that try to affirm

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the good that they're acting in, but that they've done it in the

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wrong way. They they've done it. They've done it in an

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inappropriate time not having grace for someone else. But

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still the fact that they get that right, righteousness,

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justice and order are important. Those are all godly traits. And

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so I call those out and I affirm them in that even though it

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sounds very backwards, it sounds like wait a minute, aren't we

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affirming what it is that they're just doing? And you end

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up not doing that, because you're not allowing it to

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continue. You know, it's like, No, you know, that's not how how

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we're gonna handle the situation. You know, we're gonna

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handle a different way. I don't know your how you'd say it. But

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you don't say well, you are absolutely right. She shouldn't

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have done that to you. And you're not affirming her

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feeling and her attitude. You're affirming the godly trait that

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it's coming out of. So does that make sense? So how to do this is

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not something that we logically learn, so to speak, we have to

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learn to see our world differently. We have to put on

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that own oxygen mask first. And when we start seeing the world

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like that, we start seeing good in people, you know, and good in

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ourselves. And, you know, the godly traits as opposed to

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always being self condemning of ourselves and condemning of

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other people by their actions. We have to see things

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differently. When we see it differently, it's easy for those

412
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:17.480
things to come to mind, because I'm not making them up. I really

413
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:19.800
do believe it. I'm looking at someone, I'm seeing them as

414
00:33:19.800 --> 00:33:21.800
Christ sees them, and I'm affirming the beautiful,

415
00:33:21.800 --> 00:33:25.800
wonderful things that I see as opposed to constantly correcting

416
00:33:25.800 --> 00:33:29.080
their behavior or their thoughts or their feelings. I'm not

417
00:33:29.120 --> 00:33:32.920
correcting them. I'm affirming the good, affirming the good and

418
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:38.480
then directing what wasn't. Directing the bad, directing the

419
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:42.440
acting out, directing the screaming, redirecting the

420
00:33:42.600 --> 00:33:44.200
whatever, what was going on.

421
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:51.480
You're kind of like looking for the thing, the deeper thing, and

422
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:54.320
that's what makes them feel safe. And then after they feel

423
00:33:54.320 --> 00:33:57.120
safe, then you can kind of correct the behavior. Is that

424
00:33:57.120 --> 00:33:57.840
the idea?

425
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:06.640
Um, I would say that the whole making them feel safe is

426
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:13.280
affirming who it is that they are. You know, that they are

427
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:17.639
important, that they are safe, they are secure in that moment,

428
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.360
that you value them, that I don't know, whatever the

429
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.760
situation might be. It usually comes down to value, security,

430
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:27.159
love, that you love them, that they are loved, you know,

431
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:35.280
whatever. And then the whole, excuse me, addressing the good

432
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:39.239
in what it is that they have just exercised in a wrong way.

433
00:34:40.520 --> 00:34:45.239
But, but yeah, and then you can't then after that, after

434
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:48.679
that, you can, you know, direct the behavior because it is

435
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:53.719
important that kids behavior is corrected, especially if it's

436
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:59.000
getting towards violence, or, or in or, or lack of safety for

437
00:34:59.000 --> 00:34:59.920
them, you know, safety

438
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.560
for themselves and someone else,

439
00:35:01.560 --> 00:35:05.440
then that behavior just has to be dealt with ASAP.

440
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.340
You don't explain something to a child

441
00:35:07.340 --> 00:35:09.640
who's just run out in the middle of the street

442
00:35:09.640 --> 00:35:11.120
about how they should be obeying you

443
00:35:11.120 --> 00:35:13.600
and that they're good and that they're loved,

444
00:35:13.600 --> 00:35:15.080
get them out of the street.

445
00:35:15.080 --> 00:35:16.700
So there are certain things,

446
00:35:16.700 --> 00:35:19.060
but I'm just saying that if you have some time,

447
00:35:19.060 --> 00:35:22.080
and sometimes it can just take all of like 15 seconds

448
00:35:22.080 --> 00:35:24.440
to go through the other two things that I mentioned

449
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:25.820
and then correct the behavior,

450
00:35:25.820 --> 00:35:28.680
but by then you've laid this ground for them

451
00:35:28.680 --> 00:35:30.920
to feel safe to correct their behavior

452
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:35.320
because they now realize that you've addressed the fact

453
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.640
that they, not their behavior is what's important to you.

454
00:35:39.560 --> 00:35:41.580
But if you address the behavior first,

455
00:35:41.580 --> 00:35:43.760
they think it's just what I do.

456
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.880
And anything after that is like, she didn't mean it.

457
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:50.560
Yeah, so basically something like in a nutshell,

458
00:35:50.560 --> 00:35:53.320
because I think I'm in a soul realm at the moment

459
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:56.920
because I'm looking at it as like a formula,

460
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:58.520
so I can like get ahold of it,

461
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:00.200
but it's kind of like,

462
00:36:00.200 --> 00:36:02.280
you know what I've noticed about you

463
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:05.440
is that you are such a believer in justice.

464
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:07.800
And I think that's so wonderful about you.

465
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:09.520
Like those are the first two things

466
00:36:09.520 --> 00:36:13.480
is like affirming the deeper thing, the Christ-like thing.

467
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.800
And then, you're wonderful.

468
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.520
And I love seeing that in you.

469
00:36:19.520 --> 00:36:23.400
And what's a better way for you to approach it

470
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:26.200
than she stood in line in front of me,

471
00:36:26.200 --> 00:36:27.080
or something, right?

472
00:36:27.080 --> 00:36:28.040
Like, I don't know.

473
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:29.600
I think I'm like,

474
00:36:29.600 --> 00:36:31.680
I know it's supposed to come out of the Holy Spirit,

475
00:36:31.680 --> 00:36:34.400
but I think in those situations at the moment where I'm at

476
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:38.280
is like, you almost need a bit of a formula to use

477
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:40.640
so that when my daughter is in that moment,

478
00:36:40.640 --> 00:36:43.840
I can be like, sweetie, I totally recognize that you are,

479
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.120
you know, you're such a believer in having fun,

480
00:36:46.120 --> 00:36:48.760
but you're wrestling too hard and it's hurting mommy,

481
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:50.960
you know, or the kids at school.

482
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:54.080
And so it's like,

483
00:36:54.080 --> 00:36:57.100
yeah, I think I'm just in that formula phase.

484
00:36:57.100 --> 00:37:00.700
Yeah, well, you know, it's something that you can just,

485
00:37:00.700 --> 00:37:02.700
that you just kind of,

486
00:37:02.700 --> 00:37:05.340
so don't worry if you can't,

487
00:37:05.340 --> 00:37:07.340
I was talking to someone else about this today.

488
00:37:07.340 --> 00:37:10.420
Don't worry if you can't fully understand.

489
00:37:10.420 --> 00:37:12.140
Okay, so how does this look?

490
00:37:12.140 --> 00:37:13.220
Just allow it.

491
00:37:13.220 --> 00:37:15.780
Remember that there's aspects of yourself

492
00:37:15.780 --> 00:37:20.260
that your spirit already knows all of this, you know?

493
00:37:20.260 --> 00:37:24.820
So there's aspects of yourself that, you know,

494
00:37:24.820 --> 00:37:27.460
we're taking this in and are processing it

495
00:37:27.460 --> 00:37:29.660
without you having to logically be able

496
00:37:29.660 --> 00:37:32.420
to figure it out right now.

497
00:37:32.420 --> 00:37:34.140
Like, well, how would I have done that different?

498
00:37:34.140 --> 00:37:37.820
I mean, it's one of those things I had to learn

499
00:37:37.820 --> 00:37:42.180
and the way that I learned it wasn't figuring it out.

500
00:37:42.180 --> 00:37:46.380
It was changing what it is that I believed

501
00:37:46.380 --> 00:37:50.780
about who God was and how he saw me.

502
00:37:50.780 --> 00:37:54.460
And once I truly believed it, not thought it,

503
00:37:55.060 --> 00:37:55.860
not had all the right words,

504
00:37:55.860 --> 00:37:57.940
but actually truly believed it,

505
00:37:57.940 --> 00:37:59.940
then, you know,

506
00:37:59.940 --> 00:38:03.260
then I began to see everybody else like that too.

507
00:38:03.260 --> 00:38:05.420
But I had to see it in me first

508
00:38:05.420 --> 00:38:08.900
before I could see it in others.

509
00:38:08.900 --> 00:38:13.620
And then, so as that shifts and as that changes,

510
00:38:13.620 --> 00:38:15.700
you'll just naturally talk out of that place.

511
00:38:15.700 --> 00:38:17.500
You'll just naturally know what to say.

512
00:38:17.500 --> 00:38:19.860
And what you would say in that situation

513
00:38:19.860 --> 00:38:21.580
is gonna be different than what I would say

514
00:38:21.580 --> 00:38:23.860
in that situation because it's coming out of our spirits

515
00:38:24.220 --> 00:38:25.060
and we're all unique and whatever.

516
00:38:25.060 --> 00:38:26.340
So it's not a formula.

517
00:38:26.340 --> 00:38:27.180
So in other words,

518
00:38:27.180 --> 00:38:28.900
don't worry that you can't understand it.

519
00:38:28.900 --> 00:38:31.940
There's an aspect in which you already know all of this.

520
00:38:31.940 --> 00:38:33.700
You already understand it.

521
00:38:33.700 --> 00:38:37.820
It's, but it hasn't, it might take a while to percolate

522
00:38:37.820 --> 00:38:39.860
and then to come to your knowledge,

523
00:38:39.860 --> 00:38:41.780
but you'll find yourself acting like it

524
00:38:41.780 --> 00:38:42.860
and saying something.

525
00:38:42.860 --> 00:38:44.620
And then you'll walk away and think,

526
00:38:44.620 --> 00:38:46.540
oh my word, so that's how it works.

527
00:38:46.540 --> 00:38:48.540
And it just came out.

528
00:38:48.540 --> 00:38:49.380
Yeah.

529
00:38:49.380 --> 00:38:50.220
It just came out.

530
00:38:50.220 --> 00:38:51.060
Beautiful.

531
00:38:51.060 --> 00:38:51.900
Okay, thank you very much.

532
00:38:51.900 --> 00:38:53.220
I know I took up quite a bit of time.

533
00:38:53.500 --> 00:38:54.340
I apologize.

534
00:38:55.580 --> 00:38:57.260
It was good.

535
00:38:57.260 --> 00:38:59.500
And Diane, are you still on?

536
00:39:00.980 --> 00:39:01.940
Do you have a question

537
00:39:01.940 --> 00:39:03.780
or did I already answer it somewhere?

538
00:39:05.300 --> 00:39:07.500
Well, I figured it out myself.

539
00:39:07.500 --> 00:39:11.220
So I, that's why I took my hand down.

540
00:39:11.220 --> 00:39:13.500
You know, go ahead and take care of Steph.

541
00:39:13.500 --> 00:39:14.340
Okay.

542
00:39:14.340 --> 00:39:16.340
I just wanted to make sure, are you sure?

543
00:39:16.340 --> 00:39:17.180
Yep.

544
00:39:17.180 --> 00:39:18.020
Yep.

545
00:39:18.020 --> 00:39:19.220
Thank you.

546
00:39:19.220 --> 00:39:20.060
Okay.

547
00:39:20.060 --> 00:39:20.900
You're welcome.

548
00:39:20.900 --> 00:39:22.260
Yes, Steph.

549
00:39:22.260 --> 00:39:23.140
Hey Audra.

550
00:39:23.900 --> 00:39:24.740
Hey Carrie.

551
00:39:29.620 --> 00:39:30.460
Yeah, go for it Steph.

552
00:39:30.460 --> 00:39:33.420
I was just saying, I always like to get a hug.

553
00:39:33.420 --> 00:39:34.260
You turned off.

554
00:39:35.420 --> 00:39:37.940
No, actually this was just for Alana.

555
00:39:37.940 --> 00:39:41.020
That's actually what I was thinking about

556
00:39:41.020 --> 00:39:42.500
when you were worried about being too direct

557
00:39:42.500 --> 00:39:44.060
or anything like that.

558
00:39:44.060 --> 00:39:47.780
Long story short, last year,

559
00:39:47.780 --> 00:39:49.700
oh my goodness, it's been over a year now.

560
00:39:49.700 --> 00:39:53.020
We switched churches from the church that I grew up in

561
00:39:53.780 --> 00:39:54.900
to the church that my sister attends,

562
00:39:54.900 --> 00:39:57.100
which is more local for us,

563
00:39:57.100 --> 00:39:59.620
but there are a lot of factors.

564
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.640
to it. And we had been used to people, Christians, it just kind

565
00:40:05.640 --> 00:40:07.960
of minded their business, you would say that's how you're

566
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:11.960
doing. And you get the pat on the head. Well, glad all is

567
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:15.600
well. They didn't want to get their hands dirty, in some ways.

568
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:19.840
So the first night we went to I don't know if you've heard of

569
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:23.400
the Iwana program. It stands for approved workmen are not

570
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:26.880
ashamed. It's the youth program. Well, the first night we went,

571
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:31.640
Emma was very backward, very clingy. And her teacher was a

572
00:40:31.640 --> 00:40:34.200
very direct person. She came up, she says, No, it's time for

573
00:40:34.200 --> 00:40:36.760
class. And she picked her up off of me and walked away. And I

574
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:40.160
went, no one's ever done that to me. No one's ever done that with

575
00:40:40.160 --> 00:40:45.000
my kids. And just going to find out that Shelly. So when our

576
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:48.040
older daughter was having a lot of health problems lately, I got

577
00:40:48.040 --> 00:40:51.000
a text message that said, Okay, what do you need? And how can I

578
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:56.040
help you? And I mean, literally one of those roll their sleeves

579
00:40:56.080 --> 00:40:59.440
up and jump in kind of people. And there's a lot of people

580
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.120
that's why Dan's not home right now. His friends of ours are

581
00:41:02.120 --> 00:41:06.400
moving and they have a hundred and some year old piano with

582
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:10.240
cast iron. I mean, it's huge. So Dan and how many other guys from

583
00:41:10.240 --> 00:41:14.480
church are moving this piano from one county to the next. He

584
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:18.200
showed up at seven something. I haven't seen him since 430 this

585
00:41:18.200 --> 00:41:22.240
morning. But they're just the kind of people that when they

586
00:41:22.240 --> 00:41:25.280
say how are you doing? I would come in. They had they would

587
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:28.840
serve the kids dinner every Wednesday night before they did

588
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:32.240
class the low income county. So they made sure all the kids

589
00:41:32.240 --> 00:41:35.720
were fed. And I slipped in the kitchen after all the girls in

590
00:41:35.720 --> 00:41:39.760
the class leftovers, because I had gotten them already and I

591
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:42.880
hadn't eaten. And the one guy said, you're an adult and he

592
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:47.840
just starts slapping all this extra food. But they're the kind

593
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:51.160
of people that they're Are you okay? Fine. No, you're not. How

594
00:41:51.160 --> 00:41:54.920
can I help? So there's definitely a way that God can

595
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:58.000
use the kind of Christians that just literally just roll your

596
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:01.720
sleeves up and just get involved. Because never having

597
00:42:01.720 --> 00:42:05.800
had that before. And then going into that, I'm going, Oh, wow,

598
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:10.160
it's okay to not be okay. And I mean, that was never an option

599
00:42:10.160 --> 00:42:15.960
before. Dan worked pipeline for seven or eight years. He went on

600
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.920
the road when Bailey was a baby. So I lived as a single mom with

601
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:22.320
three kids. And he was still pipelining when we had Emma. So

602
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.440
I was single mom with four kids for a while. And I'd show up

603
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:29.920
just barely squeaking in time for Sunday school. And instead

604
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:32.840
of once in a while, there was a couple ladies and I won't

605
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:35.240
disregard that, though. Hey, let me help you with baby. Let me

606
00:42:35.240 --> 00:42:39.000
help with this. For most part, it's like, too bad Dan's not

607
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:43.360
home. It's like, yeah, too bad. He's not. And that's all I can

608
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.480
think. And I mean, even being a Christian dealing with other

609
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.720
Christians. So we definitely need the people that are How are

610
00:42:49.720 --> 00:42:52.600
you? Are you really okay? There's definitely a way that

611
00:42:52.600 --> 00:42:57.200
God can and does and will use that. So just don't ever think

612
00:42:57.200 --> 00:43:00.000
that you're too much because I mean, God really, really uses

613
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:00.320
that.

614
00:43:01.240 --> 00:43:04.120
I really appreciate that. Thank you for sharing that. Because I

615
00:43:04.120 --> 00:43:08.400
do sometimes that way. So just to know that God can use that

616
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:11.080
part of me that's like direct and like, yeah, I will do that.

617
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.280
How are you doing? They'll be like, fine. I'm like, No, no,

618
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:18.440
you're not. Do you want to tell me what's really going on? And

619
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:21.720
that's just how I am. So that's good to know that that is okay.

620
00:43:21.720 --> 00:43:22.040
Because I'm

621
00:43:25.240 --> 00:43:28.520
and I don't have any, any bitterness or any hard feelings.

622
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.000
It was just one of those as far as the people I grew, I mean, I

623
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:35.360
literally grew up in this church. So we moved to this, the

624
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:39.440
one we're at now. And it's like, Oh, my goodness, I've never been

625
00:43:39.520 --> 00:43:44.240
treated like this. I've I went to that church for 20 some years.

626
00:43:44.720 --> 00:43:48.160
And that's like, I've never been treated like this before. So

627
00:43:48.160 --> 00:43:50.600
that's why when Matt caught us on the porch, Sunday's like, Hey,

628
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:55.720
feel like moving a piano fans like, yeah, sure. Okay. So it's

629
00:43:55.720 --> 00:43:58.120
just random stuff like that, that people are willing to just

630
00:43:58.120 --> 00:44:04.560
jump right in. I mean, that's actually being the body, taking

631
00:44:04.560 --> 00:44:06.960
care of each other. So definitely needed.

632
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:09.200
Awesome. Thank you.

633
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:13.080
Thanks for bringing that up, Steph. Welcome. That's perfect.

634
00:44:14.240 --> 00:44:16.680
Diane, did you have a think of something?

635
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:21.720
I think I gave myself the wrong answer.

636
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:30.080
Man, you're good. I mean, this is what happens when you have

637
00:44:30.080 --> 00:44:34.480
coaches in your group. They they answer their own questions.

638
00:44:35.120 --> 00:44:39.560
I'll let you know, I turn back quite some pretty self. And it

639
00:44:39.560 --> 00:44:42.160
seems like it's more personable if you're actually talking to

640
00:44:42.160 --> 00:44:42.920
somebody. So

641
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:45.680
you're always lovely.

642
00:44:45.680 --> 00:44:50.360
Well, my question was that, since I'm new to this format,

643
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:54.680
and the question and answer program with everyone, I wasn't

644
00:44:54.680 --> 00:44:58.200
quite sure I thought now when someone asks a question, like

645
00:44:58.200 --> 00:44:59.000
Ilana did,

646
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.160
Is it Ashley just answers it and we all listen,

647
00:45:03.160 --> 00:45:05.200
and then what's the next question?

648
00:45:05.200 --> 00:45:09.600
Or do we, you know, interact with one another

649
00:45:09.600 --> 00:45:13.520
as to what comes up in our hearts to share or something?

650
00:45:13.520 --> 00:45:15.920
And I kind of came to the conclusion,

651
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:19.120
nah, you better keep your mouth shut, Diane.

652
00:45:19.120 --> 00:45:20.760
You're not supposed to have an opinion here.

653
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:23.000
You're supposed to just ask your question,

654
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:24.640
get your answer and, you know,

655
00:45:24.640 --> 00:45:26.680
glean from listening to everything else.

656
00:45:26.680 --> 00:45:31.520
And so I, which is okay, you know,

657
00:45:31.520 --> 00:45:33.440
if that's the way it is, then that's the way it is,

658
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:37.120
you know, and I decided that's the way it was.

659
00:45:38.120 --> 00:45:41.680
And then when Steph started sharing

660
00:45:41.680 --> 00:45:44.040
and Alana said, thank you, I thought,

661
00:45:44.040 --> 00:45:47.280
well, I guess maybe I can say something.

662
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:51.640
So I guess my question is, how does this work?

663
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.560
And as far as what I wanted to say

664
00:45:55.560 --> 00:45:57.400
was the thought that came to me,

665
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.160
and I mean, I don't know you from Adam,

666
00:46:00.160 --> 00:46:03.520
but as you were asking your question,

667
00:46:03.520 --> 00:46:06.720
my thought was you're humble enough.

668
00:46:06.720 --> 00:46:09.000
You're asking for correction.

669
00:46:10.120 --> 00:46:13.960
You want truth and you want to, you know,

670
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:16.160
go forward in love.

671
00:46:16.160 --> 00:46:20.720
So my thought is with that kind of humility and heart,

672
00:46:20.720 --> 00:46:23.520
you'll know if you're wrong, you know,

673
00:46:23.520 --> 00:46:25.880
because God's not going to keep it a secret.

674
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:28.320
You're asking him, you know, do I need some help here?

675
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:29.520
He's not going to condemn you.

676
00:46:29.520 --> 00:46:32.280
He's going to show you and he'll show you how, you know,

677
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:37.080
and he'll conviction and transformation

678
00:46:37.080 --> 00:46:38.560
from his grace would come.

679
00:46:38.560 --> 00:46:42.000
I mean, that was the thought that came to me, you know,

680
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.920
that I think we need to be willing to self-examine

681
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.360
and go, gee, ask that question like you did.

682
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.800
But then when, if you don't hear God showing you

683
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:55.360
and telling you and you don't get a conviction

684
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.760
in your heart, I would say, you know, you're all right.

685
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:01.640
And there's different folks,

686
00:47:01.640 --> 00:47:03.800
different strokes for different folks.

687
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:06.440
You know, some people really need you

688
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:08.520
to be right to the point with them.

689
00:47:08.520 --> 00:47:10.840
And they don't even hear anything

690
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:14.320
if it takes you a long time to be real sweet, you know,

691
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:15.960
because they want the answer.

692
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:17.520
They want the correction.

693
00:47:17.520 --> 00:47:20.680
So, I mean, there's people that need that.

694
00:47:20.680 --> 00:47:22.800
And then there's people that don't,

695
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:24.880
but there's so many people and we're all different

696
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:27.400
and God made us all different that he brings us,

697
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:30.200
I think, you know, to the right person at the right time.

698
00:47:30.200 --> 00:47:32.920
And I think you're doing great.

699
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:34.080
You know, I don't know you that well,

700
00:47:34.080 --> 00:47:37.240
but my impression was I wouldn't worry about that at all.

701
00:47:38.240 --> 00:47:39.160
Well, thank you.

702
00:47:39.160 --> 00:47:41.160
That means a lot because you're right.

703
00:47:41.160 --> 00:47:43.160
Like, I just want the Holy Spirit to work through me

704
00:47:43.160 --> 00:47:44.480
in the best way possible.

705
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:46.560
And I don't want to be doing anything that is

706
00:47:46.560 --> 00:47:49.800
like blocking that or eliminating it in any way, you know?

707
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:51.840
Yeah.

708
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:52.680
I appreciate that.

709
00:47:52.680 --> 00:47:53.920
Thank you so much.

710
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:55.600
You're welcome.

711
00:47:55.600 --> 00:47:58.720
And everyone, Diane, you know, just so that y'all know,

712
00:47:58.720 --> 00:48:03.000
she has just moved to Houston a month ago

713
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:06.080
and has been without power and water

714
00:48:06.080 --> 00:48:08.040
during the snow apocalypse.

715
00:48:08.040 --> 00:48:11.520
So anyway, but she's joined a really sweet church

716
00:48:11.520 --> 00:48:13.920
that I've really looked out for and took care of her.

717
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.880
And interestingly, I happen to know the pastor of the church.

718
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:19.640
So I was messaging her and I said,

719
00:48:19.640 --> 00:48:22.320
hey, by the way, a friend of mine just moved down

720
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.520
to Houston specifically to go to your church.

721
00:48:24.520 --> 00:48:25.920
Her name is Diane.

722
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:28.560
And she's like, oh yeah, I know Diane.

723
00:48:28.560 --> 00:48:30.760
So that was really sweet and really fun.

724
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:31.800
It's a small world.

725
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:34.400
But anyway, so the Lord's just really been taking care

726
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:35.240
of her.

727
00:48:36.160 --> 00:48:40.160
And so she's in a new place, in a new city

728
00:48:40.160 --> 00:48:43.800
and survived one of the hardest things it's been through.

729
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:48.800
So she's a seasoned veteran of the church

730
00:48:49.680 --> 00:48:51.160
and of that city.

731
00:48:51.160 --> 00:48:55.480
So that'll bring a community together like nothing will.

732
00:48:56.560 --> 00:49:01.560
Does anyone have, hey Carrie, does anyone have any other,

733
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:06.480
what time is it?

734
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:07.680
Any other questions?

735
00:49:08.680 --> 00:49:10.280
Oh yeah, we've got a few minutes.

736
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:13.280
Any other questions before we jump off?

737
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:18.280
Hey, if no one else has anything, I might have a question.

738
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:21.280
Go for it, you're next in line.

739
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:25.080
This may be very multifaceted.

740
00:49:25.080 --> 00:49:27.600
So I'm sorry if we don't have time,

741
00:49:27.600 --> 00:49:29.400
like it's totally fine if you don't have time

742
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:30.240
to go into it all.

743
00:49:30.240 --> 00:49:34.640
But okay, so how do I even begin?

744
00:49:34.640 --> 00:49:38.240
So basically I was reading the other day

745
00:49:38.240 --> 00:49:40.080
and this has been leading up for many weeks,

746
00:49:40.080 --> 00:49:42.520
but where Jesus said that he didn't come to the church

747
00:49:42.520 --> 00:49:44.080
that he didn't come to abolish the law,

748
00:49:44.080 --> 00:49:45.320
but to build off the law.

749
00:49:46.720 --> 00:49:50.320
And how his intentions wasn't to put away with the law,

750
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:52.680
but to build off of it or whatever.

751
00:49:52.680 --> 00:49:55.480
And I am just really struggling with,

752
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:56.680
like, what does that even mean?

753
00:49:56.680 --> 00:50:00.280
Because what, like, I feel like I was living the law.

754
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:06.160
for so long and now like the life and the spirit I almost feel like it can't reconcile like how in

755
00:50:06.160 --> 00:50:13.280
the world do those two actually work and and there was a situation too with the one of our parents

756
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:17.200
like you know we we aren't conservative anymore and that's like a huge deal you know and so

757
00:50:17.200 --> 00:50:20.880
every now and then we have these weird conversations where they're like oh you know like

758
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:27.600
they can't they uh they feel you know like they are basically like lowering their standards by

759
00:50:27.600 --> 00:50:32.000
being in relationship with us and yada yada yada which i'm like how is that even a thing

760
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:37.840
but i can like how do you i'm trying to see their point and like is there even validity to what

761
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:42.240
they're saying i have no idea and so basically i'm just very confused does that make sense at all

762
00:50:43.120 --> 00:50:52.560
yes very good question roman 7 there's no scripture okay so in roman 7 i don't remember

763
00:50:52.560 --> 00:50:59.920
which verse it well starting in verse 1 but going through what is it i think maybe it's

764
00:50:59.920 --> 00:51:05.520
particularly verse 12 that i'm thinking of invert in chapter 7 but i recommend reading all of it

765
00:51:06.720 --> 00:51:14.560
um it talks about the fact that the law is holy so the law is not bad um so their tree of knowledge

766
00:51:14.560 --> 00:51:20.480
the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is not a bad tree uh that the problem is if we believe

767
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:27.760
that it is if we operate out of it believing it's our source that's the problem but god as it

768
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:34.640
mentions as paul mentions in roman 7 does not create bad things and and he created the that

769
00:51:34.640 --> 00:51:42.800
the law is created by the lord and it is holy so um that's why jesus didn't come to abolish it

770
00:51:43.520 --> 00:51:51.520
it had been it had been in existence before or you know the knowledge of good and evil itself

771
00:51:51.520 --> 00:51:59.600
had been in existence um when adam and eve were perfect before they sent so their problem

772
00:52:00.160 --> 00:52:09.200
was actually choosing to use it as as their source uh when there were all when god wanted him to them

773
00:52:09.200 --> 00:52:13.600
to rely on operating out of his character as their source but it's the same reason why when

774
00:52:13.600 --> 00:52:20.480
we talk about you know um 30 60 and 100 fold there's nothing wrong with using tools the tools

775
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:27.440
are all laws remember uh the the 60 fold um knowledge of spiritual laws and then the 30 fold

776
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:33.040
knowledge of earthly laws and they're all they're all laws and there's nothing wrong with them god

777
00:52:33.040 --> 00:52:39.600
actually created them which is why they exist but um they don't uh they're good things they're

778
00:52:39.600 --> 00:52:46.720
meant for us to be able to use but understanding because god ate you know even jesus ate even after

779
00:52:46.720 --> 00:52:54.720
he um rose from the dead and um had his spiritual body he ate there's nothing wrong and even before

780
00:52:54.720 --> 00:53:02.640
he died jesus never sinned and yet he used tools he ate he slept in other words it looks like he

781
00:53:02.640 --> 00:53:09.600
was subject to and limited by his environment and same thing with like using actual whether

782
00:53:09.600 --> 00:53:13.600
we're talking physical tools as a carpenter or the fact that he did follow jewish law

783
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:21.920
um all of those things it says that in all of those things he didn't he didn't sin the problem

784
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:29.600
is that that the law what happens where it's bad is and it mentions this in romans 7 that the law

785
00:53:29.600 --> 00:53:37.920
when we come in contact with it meaning like we try to we try to use it as our as our source by

786
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:44.960
which we can please god do the quote-unquote right thing or whatever is by following the law

787
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:49.760
as opposed to acting out of god's character because that's the essence of our own dna

788
00:53:50.640 --> 00:53:59.600
then it what it does it says in romans 7 is that it it creates death in us so our something in us

789
00:53:59.600 --> 00:54:06.160
when it got our flesh when it comes in contact with the law dies it there's something within

790
00:54:06.160 --> 00:54:15.120
us that dies the law itself and again it i mean you know we know romans um is is noted as paul's

791
00:54:15.120 --> 00:54:22.560
book that he walks through as if it was um uh as if it was like as he was as if he was a lawyer

792
00:54:22.560 --> 00:54:28.160
because he was a trained lawyer um so to speak and the fact that he was with his training and

793
00:54:28.160 --> 00:54:35.680
therefore he he worked he walked things out so very thoroughly so he really belabors the point

794
00:54:35.680 --> 00:54:42.320
in romans 7 comes at it from multiple angles and he says does this mean that the law is sin if it

795
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:48.800
creates sin within me and if it creates death within me is the law itself sin and he says

796
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:54.320
absolutely not but when we come in contact with it meaning that we're trying to operate

797
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:59.840
out of it thinking it's a source not not um not following it

798
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.840
but thinking we have to follow it in order and use and following it in order to get somewhere.

799
00:55:06.720 --> 00:55:12.560
He said that creates death within us, but it's something within us that the law finds

800
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:20.240
that creates death. It's not the law itself. So that's why Jesus didn't come to abolish the law

801
00:55:20.240 --> 00:55:24.000
because the law is a holy thing. It was a good thing. His father created it and it was meant for

802
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:32.240
us to continue to use, not to be subject to, but to use. Use tools, all that good stuff.

803
00:55:33.520 --> 00:55:38.880
But it says that he didn't come to abolish the law, but to, I don't remember what the phrase

804
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:46.720
was. Was it, he didn't say pay the law. Does anyone remember? Can anyone look at us and remind

805
00:55:46.720 --> 00:55:51.360
me? I can't think of why I can't think of that, the rest of that phrase. I didn't come to abolish

806
00:55:51.360 --> 00:56:00.240
the law, but to fulfill it. There we go. Came to fulfill it. And so because the law required,

807
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:07.200
in fact, it says that we didn't, that sin wasn't even in existence until the law was.

808
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:14.800
In other words, there was no sin within me until the law came into, until it came in,

809
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:20.240
I came into proximity with the law and then it revealed sin within me. And that's what,

810
00:56:20.240 --> 00:56:24.880
what creates death. Again, Romans seven goes through, through this and it talks about that.

811
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:31.600
Said that I didn't know that there was an issue until I was, I was compared with the law and then

812
00:56:31.600 --> 00:56:37.840
I found the issue. It also mentions elsewhere in Romans seven that, sorry, not Romans seven,

813
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:46.640
elsewhere in Romans that, that, oh, what is it? That people's conscience doesn't,

814
00:56:47.600 --> 00:56:56.400
or they're not subbed. Oh, what is that? Oh man. I can't remember the exact phrasing,

815
00:56:56.400 --> 00:57:03.280
but something along the lines of that man's conscience condemns him and he's not aware of it

816
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:10.400
until he's exposed to the law. So if he doesn't know it, it's not, he's not condemned by it,

817
00:57:11.120 --> 00:57:18.000
but when he knows it, he's condemned. And, and then he goes on to talk about the fact that even

818
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:24.560
if he's never heard it, it's easy for him to see in nature and he should know. And all people,

819
00:57:24.560 --> 00:57:30.800
it says, Paul says, you know, are exposed to the law through nature because you can see,

820
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:35.200
he says that you can see it there. So anyway, it says you can, I don't remember how it phrases all

821
00:57:35.200 --> 00:57:39.040
that. Wow. I can't believe I used to know all that stuff, like, and could repeat it verbatim.

822
00:57:39.040 --> 00:57:44.160
I guess it's been a while since I repeated it verbatim that I don't remember. But anyway, so

823
00:57:45.040 --> 00:57:52.000
he came to, Jesus came to fulfill it. He didn't come to, which is the opposite of what he did

824
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:58.080
with death. Remember that what he did with death was he conquered death and he removed it's sting,

825
00:57:58.080 --> 00:58:03.920
but the law he fulfilled. There's nothing wrong with the law. It's not sin, it's holy.

826
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:09.200
So, so there are answers that questions, does that help you answer the question about your

827
00:58:09.200 --> 00:58:15.280
parents or how would you like to, based on that? I mean, I feel like this is kind of like one of

828
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:19.680
those things, like it's just a subject that I'm exploring and I don't think there's any, like,

829
00:58:19.680 --> 00:58:25.200
you know, I'm okay with it taking time. And I know like the whole parents thing is kind of whatever,

830
00:58:25.200 --> 00:58:29.120
like, I don't, it doesn't bother me because we have a good relationship. It's just every now

831
00:58:29.120 --> 00:58:33.680
and then they have these weird things and I'm like, okay, like that was really weird. And we

832
00:58:33.680 --> 00:58:38.320
have a great relationship and we're, I mean, we talked about it and they accept us and love us.

833
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:43.520
It's just like, it always brings up a question like, oh, you know, am I actually defying the

834
00:58:43.520 --> 00:58:47.920
Lord by not wearing skirts and wearing a head covering and like, you know, cutting my hair

835
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:52.160
short and all these things, you know? And I mean, it's just a personal journey, I think too, that I

836
00:58:52.160 --> 00:59:00.720
want, but yeah, it gives me a starting point to kind of, you know. Yeah. If they're living by the

837
00:59:00.720 --> 00:59:05.920
law, meaning like they have particular standards by which they're living is what I'm referring to,

838
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:10.960
regardless of what they define the law to be. If people are living by certain standards that

839
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:16.560
will call the law in their own lives, then it means that they condemn themselves by the very

840
00:59:16.560 --> 00:59:26.080
thing that they think will bring God, will cause God to bring, will make God more pleased with them.

841
00:59:26.080 --> 00:59:31.760
So they're trying, people try to, we all try to use the law to make God pleased with us, but that

842
00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:37.120
means that if we don't do it just right, we're actually condemned by it. So we put ourselves in

843
00:59:37.120 --> 00:59:43.520
our very bad position by being condemned by the very thing that we try to grab a hold of to save

844
00:59:43.520 --> 00:59:48.880
us. So it's this, so when they're being, when they're seeing y'all, what they're seeing is

845
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:55.680
they're seeing that y'all are crossing this threshold past this standard that they have defined

846
00:59:55.680 --> 00:59:59.840
and so it can look like to them.

847
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:05.120
looks like y'all are, y'all are condemned. I don't mean that y'all are going to hell that they,

848
01:00:05.120 --> 01:00:08.400
that they think in their mind that y'all are going to hell. I just mean that they just think,

849
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:14.560
Hey, look, that you're not doing the right thing. Um, you need to repent you're in sin or whatever.

850
01:00:14.560 --> 01:00:21.360
That's what happens with the law is that either you or someone else is always under condemnation

851
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:28.000
based on how they relate to the law. And God says in Christ, there is therefore no,

852
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:35.360
no condemnation. Even if someone, you know, is tatted up and smokes, you know,

853
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:40.880
I was going to say smokes, heroin, smokes, marijuana, shoots up heroin, whatever,

854
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:45.680
you know, even if they kill someone, God says that there is therefore no, no condemnation.

855
01:00:45.680 --> 01:00:52.080
It doesn't mean that we don't do that. We, that our flesh doesn't sin. Our spirits don't

856
01:00:52.080 --> 01:00:56.240
our seed of our identity does not. That's why we're able to say that the new man does not sin,

857
01:00:56.240 --> 01:01:00.880
but our flesh, you know, the aspect of ourselves that we're trying to get into

858
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:05.680
alignment with who it is that we truly are that thing that we're trying to overcome,

859
01:01:05.680 --> 01:01:12.560
that even Jesus had to overcome himself. You know, that thing can sin. Jesus may always

860
01:01:12.560 --> 01:01:17.200
made the choice that his flesh never actually sinned as he was bringing it into alignment.

861
01:01:17.200 --> 01:01:22.640
Ours, you know, unfortunately it does because we have made those choices. But anyway, so that's

862
01:01:22.640 --> 01:01:27.920
the thing about with the struggle with it. You know, the parents is that's, that's the

863
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:33.360
condemnation of the law is either you or someone else that you're looking at is always under

864
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:41.920
condemnation in, in your own mind. And it's an, it's your own imprisonment. And so it's something

865
01:01:41.920 --> 01:01:47.280
that someone who lives in freedom doesn't have to feel threatened by, which, you know, I was just

866
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:53.360
explaining it from their side. You can also think of it. It's not exactly, it is kind of sort of,

867
01:01:53.360 --> 01:02:01.200
it's the similar to the you remember Paul talks about the weaker brother, for instance,

868
01:02:01.200 --> 01:02:06.400
says that the weaker brother might, you know, can't eat meat offered to idols, but the, but

869
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:13.120
the brother who understands that in, in Christ, everything is permissible, but not everything's

870
01:02:13.120 --> 01:02:19.920
edifying. He believes that he can eat meat offered to idols, but Paul talks about if you're in the

871
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:25.920
presence of a weaker brother, someone who would, who believes that there's condemnation, if you

872
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:32.400
don't do particular things and it causes them to stumble and it causes it, it would cause them to

873
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:41.040
violate their own conscience by being exposed to, or tempt them to not follow their own conscience.

874
01:02:41.040 --> 01:02:46.400
He said, that's an issue because they're caught by their own conscience. He says we're condemned.

875
01:02:47.600 --> 01:02:52.960
And so anyway, if our conscience understands that we're free, then we don't have the content

876
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:58.720
that we don't have that condemnation. But if our conscience doesn't believe that it's enslaved,

877
01:02:58.720 --> 01:03:04.800
then we are enslaved because, because whatever it is that we declared, that is how our world

878
01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:10.080
is framed up. Whatever it is that we've chosen to believe is the standard, whatever standard we hold

879
01:03:10.080 --> 01:03:15.680
ourselves to is the standard God holds us to. Because he's like, Hey, I'm giving you permission

880
01:03:15.680 --> 01:03:19.280
to hold yourself to this standard because this is the standard I hold you to. And we're like, no, God,

881
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:24.800
I believe you hold me to this standard. This is who I declare you to be. So that is how God shows

882
01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:30.880
up in their lives. He shows up in their lives according to who it is that they declare him to be.

883
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:37.920
But he always, always pulling us into, Hey, wouldn't you like to understand that I am greater love and

884
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:43.360
greater freedom and that you can step into greater love and greater freedom. No Lord. I don't. Okay.

885
01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:47.440
Then this is where I'm going to meet you. I'm going to meet you according to your own law,

886
01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:52.800
whatever you do, whatever your own law believes it's how I'm going to interact with you. If you

887
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:57.600
do or do, do or don't do certain things, that is how I'm going to interact with you. That's why they

888
01:03:57.600 --> 01:04:03.120
get their, their beliefs affirmed. They're like, Oh, it proves itself in life. It absolutely does

889
01:04:03.120 --> 01:04:07.520
because God's going to manifest according to who it is that they've declared to be,

890
01:04:07.520 --> 01:04:13.680
but he gives us permission to believe he's more. But anyway, so that's very helpful. Yes. But yeah,

891
01:04:13.680 --> 01:04:21.680
that answers my question. Okay. Good. You're in your car. Did you have to escape? Yes. I was

892
01:04:21.680 --> 01:04:26.640
actually out with Cheryl tonight, Cheryl flair, and we were doing some work and now I'm just

893
01:04:26.640 --> 01:04:37.440
returning and I'm in my parking lot, but I need to go in soon. You cut your hair so long. Yeah.

894
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:43.840
I was, I tell people that I was either involuntarily going to go bald from postpartum

895
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:50.400
hair loss or I was going to get a cut. So yes, it was a huge, a very drastic change for me.

896
01:04:51.120 --> 01:04:54.640
Majorly. My hair has never been this short in my whole entire life ever. So

897
01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:59.760
very cute. I was wondering where this whole short thing.

898
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:07.080
short hair thing came up came from, I was like, well, my goodness of her hair sort how long it's in her family's. Oh, my word.

899
01:05:07.640 --> 01:05:08.440
Now you've got it.

900
01:05:08.720 --> 01:05:09.320
No, it's

901
01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:10.160
Short

902
01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:18.280
Well, good. All right. So, and so is that helpful.

903
01:05:18.680 --> 01:05:20.120
Yes, very helpful. Thank you.

904
01:05:20.640 --> 01:05:21.480
You're welcome.

905
01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:32.280
Okay, everyone. Well, if no one has anything pressing that we need to answer, we can, we can all go. I'm trying to see if I missed anything.

906
01:05:34.160 --> 01:05:43.000
Nope, I don't think so. All right. Well, it's good to see y'all just making sure everybody's okay right there's nothing pressing that we needed to answer before we go.

907
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:53.320
Good. Okay. And for those of you coming to the conference. I'll see you on Thursday for this. If you're not coming. We won't have the

908
01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:56.680
Excuse me, we will not have the

909
01:05:57.680 --> 01:06:14.680
The weekly call, but this is a really big announcement. I am trying to get live stream. I think I'm going to be able to do it. So, but so far I don't have it 100%

910
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:16.440
So we can

911
01:06:18.560 --> 01:06:20.040
That's what I'm trying

912
01:06:20.040 --> 01:06:32.120
I think we can, but the person that I need to help me with the camera and has said that he thinks that he can do it, but he needs more details for me so he can work out child care. So we're going to see

913
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:40.800
Because see, this is yours. They've got two major cameras. They're very, very expensive nice cameras that two different angles in the in the in the

914
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:53.800
In the, not the sanctuary, but in the in the conference room and it looks like a sanctuary and then and then there's the screen and then there's the soundboard and there's all that stuff that needs to be coordinated

915
01:06:54.120 --> 01:07:09.680
And so there's there's the guy who might be available. So he and I are trying to talk and see if we can get that done. So I didn't want to say anything until it was for sure, but it's close enough now that I can let y'all know that I think so. But, you know,

916
01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:11.800
You know, I'm not promising.

917
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:13.600
We'll just pray.

918
01:07:14.240 --> 01:07:15.240
That's right. That's right.

919
01:07:16.240 --> 01:07:19.760
There I would be there, except this whole border thing.

920
01:07:21.040 --> 01:07:21.840
I know.

921
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:23.520
Next time, next time.

922
01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:32.600
Yeah, so hopefully this I'm expecting this to work out. But remember, I didn't declare that it was going to be so, but

923
01:07:33.080 --> 01:07:34.160
Well, maybe you should

924
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:35.720
This is true.

925
01:07:36.520 --> 01:07:37.960
It will be so it will be

926
01:07:38.560 --> 01:08:02.320
Right. Yeah, I believe it will. I believe I just told her. Okay, God, I, you know, whatever you want to do. So I think it will. So anyway, okay. Well, I will see y'all and in two weeks from now. Some of you are going to see next week in person, maybe the rest of you will be on the live stream and I'll talk to you later.

927
01:08:03.120 --> 01:08:04.800
Thank you. Bye.