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If you're on there, I can't.

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OK, that's a bummer.

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Hey, yeah, Lindsay, please let me know

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if that continues to be an issue.

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I'm using, there's multiple Wi-Fis that we can use Hilding,

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and I actually came to my office at my office, Ed's office.

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And because remember, we work and go to church

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in the same building, so he's in our apartment.

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I walked through the church while they're

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in the middle of something.

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In fact, every now and then, I can know the fiery preacher.

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We have a guest speaker in, so he's

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very excited and very intense.

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Anyway, and then I walked through the building

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to Ed's office.

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We were excited because we thought

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I'd have really good internet because I

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could plug in right away.

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I've never used this plug directly into the ethernet,

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but it's not, there's no outlet on the computer

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for this ethernet plug-in.

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So long story, point is, I tried.

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So let me know if I stick.

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OK, so does anyone have, it's our fireside chat,

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so it is for asking questions.

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Let me start out, though, first, while everyone's

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thinking of their question that they might,

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if anyone has something that they'd

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like to start us out with.

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One of the things I have been noticing,

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so, is that I tried to structure the rest intensive in such

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a way that this particular one, in such a way

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that everyone had time to process things, et cetera.

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And that basically, because things can,

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and the change, and the introduction to new revelation,

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and the shiftings that can happen,

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our spirits can happen so fast, it

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can be kind of intense for people,

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no pen on what it is we were just talking about,

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that I tried to spread everything out

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over a period of six weeks.

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It's not that it takes six weeks.

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In fact, I usually work with people much faster.

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People can get major shifts from one conversation with me.

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And then, in fact, people for getting such major shifts

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and having non-conversation with me,

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that then they were having clarity calls

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to see if they wanted to join the rest intensive.

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This is back when I used to do clarity calls.

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Then some of them were getting such transformation

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that they didn't join the rest intensive because they

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didn't need it anymore.

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So anyway, so my point is, it doesn't take long

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to make huge changes in the Lord.

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All that it takes is us being willing to do it

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and us then stepping into it.

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But I wanted to make sure to provide,

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oh dear, they've decided to now clean the hallway

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with a vacuum cleaner.

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So we'll see how long we have silence.

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But anyway, I decided to kind of like structure it

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to six weeks.

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And so what I would like to do,

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because I believe that by some of your questions,

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y'all are wanting certain,

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y'all are wanting to get breakthrough

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in certain areas faster.

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That does mean we can speed it up.

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The thing is it does make it more intense

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and doesn't make it more intense on me necessarily.

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I mean, technically it does, but really it's for y'all.

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So what I'm going to do is I'm going to change things

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up a bit.

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I am going to make the, first of all,

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in order to meet my commitment to the people who are

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in the lifetime membership,

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I am going to continue the Tuesday night teachings

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live broadcasting in the order that I said

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that I was going to do them in the time that I said

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that I was going to do them in.

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Meaning like, you know, that's that cadence

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and that schedule is going to be the same.

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I'm going to be making myself available in the live chat

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for people who would like to do that

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because I want to keep my commitment.

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If those of you who are lifetime members don't need it

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because you'll be able to keep up with the new schedule,

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just let me know.

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And then I, that frees me up there

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to maybe do something with y'all,

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or I don't know, I could do it for,

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have that time free for transformation

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or session or something.

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So what I'm going to do is I'm going to open up the videos

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for y'all to go through at your own pace.

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And then obviously I'm still available

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for questions, et cetera.

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So no, it's not that we're,

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that I'll be live in the chat

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because you'll all be watching it at your own convenience.

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But what it will enable you to do is to be a bit more,

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lack of better phrase,

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in control of how fast and how intense do you want to go.

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And then of course, we're still doing it for six weeks.

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We're still in the group for six weeks.

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All of that's the same.

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The, and then it's, and then the,

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I'm going to open up the times where we do meet.

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I'm going to open those up for live.

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Q&A's. So instead of teachings, we're going to have live Q&A's. So you'll have more time with

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me to be able to actually ask questions about how to apply it. So speaking of that, I think then

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that I'm going to probably talk to the Lifetime members who are accessing the Tuesday night thing

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and I'm going to move that time. So I'll coordinate specifically with them again because I want to

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make my commitment to them that, hey, that was going to be available for them to access.

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But that time slot will still be ours to meet for the live Q&A. So we'll basically have two live

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Q&A's a week and on Tuesdays at from nine to 10 and Thursdays nine to 10 and then do the rest

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groups. The one exception is I have to see if y'all tell me if you think that that's too close

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together and y'all would rather switching the rest groups to do the rest groups on Tuesday

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and then the live Q&A on Sunday. The reason for that is there's longer time between Thursday

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and Sunday than there from one rest group to another. Then there would be if you do a Thursday,

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a Tuesday rest, a Tuesday, I'm not a rest group, live Q&A from Thursday to Sunday,

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then there would be if you do a live Q&A on Tuesday and then day and then day after next

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you have another one. So maybe we kind of need to spread them out a little bit more and then do a

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rest group in between. So maybe that would be best. But my whole point in doing this is because

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the whole point of the rest intensive is not the teaching. I don't want to say that I just

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kind of get through the teaching, but the point of the teaching is to kind of like repaint a

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different context and a different perspective from which we're approaching everything.

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But the biggest issue isn't really the teaching that people have. The issue is the fact of like,

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okay, yeah, but how do I connect the teaching to my real life? And that, and, and if people could

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do it by themselves, they would have just purchased the inner is rest teaching online,

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you know, and do the rest intensive. Why? Because it's cheaper. And a lot of people on here have

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already done that. And they're still, and they're now after that in the rest intensive because

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people learn they're like, okay, all of that's great, but how do I apply it in my unique situation?

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How does this actually make sense in real life? So I want to provide the majority of the time,

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effort and energy that I'm pouring into the rest intensive to be on the actually helping everyone

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apply it. That's why I, I did even though all of the people that I've worked with thus far,

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always say that they want me to do live teachings instead of doing recorded teachings,

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because they want that live interaction. They say that it's, it's easier for them. It's better.

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I wanted to manner of as a interesting turn of phrase, I went to conserve my energy to focus

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the majority of it on helping y'all apply. Y'all can listen to the recording on your own. You can

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listen to the teaching on your own. I'm already doing a lot of teaching in just the transformation

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sessions or in these live Q and A's, right? Because every time someone asks the question,

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I don't just answer the question. I always provide context of why this is the way that it is

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in order to help people establish it or know where it is that they can find it in scripture

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or whatever. So I wanted to, um, so I tried to structure this particular rest intensive a bit

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different, um, so that I could, uh, that instead of pouring so much into live teaching, I just

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provide y'all access to the teaching. And then I'm focusing the majority of the time and effort

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and energy and interaction with y'all where you can ask me questions on, okay, how do I take this

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and apply it to my unique situation? So is that all okay with y'all that I'm changing it up a bit?

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I'm really basically giving y'all more access to me to ask questions. So instead of being in the

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chat with answering questions during the teaching, you watch your teachings on your own time, go as

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fast or as slow as you want to don't go too fast, just because you're just excited and eager.

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Remember you want to live this thing, but, but you and the Lord decide what you want to do and

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what it is that you can handle and how fast you want to make these decisions to be that surrendered

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to shift. And then we'll spend all of our time on the rest groups and live Q and A's. And so that'll

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be our three times to meet throughout the week. Is everybody good with that? Are y'all okay with that?

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So kind of, sort of. Okay. All right. Okay. It looks good. So if anybody has an issue with that,

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you can let me know, but everybody looks okay. All right. So that's what we're going to do. Oh,

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someone asked what's a lifetime member. That is somebody who is part of the, who joined the rest

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intensive, a prob majority of them joined in 2020, some joined in 2021. And I haven't opened up the

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rest intensive sense, but I mean, meaning like this, this group until, you know, on Facebook.

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Um, so anybody who accessed it during those two years, um, part of what it is that I was offering

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at the time was lifetime access to the Facebook group. So it's not lifetime access to.

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they get to join a rest intensive, I do.

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It's they always have access to this Facebook group.

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This is their community.

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It's got the old teachings in it, et cetera.

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And what I was gifting to y'all was access

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to this community that I haven't let anyone into

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or see or be exposed to or whatever for a year and a half.

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So anyway, so that's what a lifetime member is

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in what they, I gifted to them

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because we're doing all, we're doing so much in the group.

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We're using the chat, you know, in the group,

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we're doing all of the posts in the group.

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And we have access to, y'all have access

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to all my old original teachings from April, 2020.

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You have access to all the old posts,

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all of those testimonies, all of those struggles,

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you know, everything.

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And what I gifted to the lifetime members

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because we were all in there and, you know,

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operating in the same space as I allowed them,

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I said that, hey, whenever I do the live broadcast,

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y'all are welcome to join us for that.

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You're also welcome to join us for the rest groups

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if you'd like, and you're welcome to join us

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for these fireside chats.

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But if they wanted anything additional,

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like if they wanted like the transformation sessions with me,

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which they're all very familiar with

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because they had those transformation sessions with me,

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or they wanted early access

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and they get to have personal ministry time with Ed

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or whatever, that was an additional package

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that I kind of put together just for them.

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But I wanted to give them some free things,

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partly because we're already,

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I wanted to give them access to everything

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that we were gonna already have in group anyway.

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And I also just kind of wanted to invite them to participate

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because they're a huge benefit to the community

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because they've already lived this out like me.

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And so they can help support each, you know,

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those of y'all who were like learning this new

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or needing encouragement or whatever,

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like several of y'all, they have posted,

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I think, let's see, Carrie, Alana, Susan, Lori,

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I'm trying to remember who else,

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Amy and some others that have,

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that are longtime members that, oh, Steph,

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that have posted trying to encourage everybody.

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Oh yeah, I know what that feels like.

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I've been through that,

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or this is what I'm currently going through

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to let y'all know that it's bigger than even us

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that are meeting together all of the time.

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So I knew that that would be a support to y'all

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and an encouragement so that you'd know

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it's not just me that God works with.

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And it's not just me that God shifts into rest

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and like, you know, shows up for like this.

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He shows up like this for everyone

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because that's who he is,

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not because any of us are doing something magical or special

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or because my name's Ashley and he decided to pick me.

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You know, he picks all, he's picked all of us.

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And so this is a universal truth for the sense of God.

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And by hearing multiple voices

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that have gone through this,

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you know that it's for you too.

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So anyway, that is what that is.

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So, oh yeah, the teachings be available

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to watch on your own time.

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So that's what I'm going to talk to you about, Liberty,

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because you're a lifetime member,

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I'll talk to you about all of that offline,

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about how y'all can access this teaching.

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I know, that's what I'm thinking as well.

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Does anyone have any questions

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before we actually have a question

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about like the structure or what it is

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before we get into the real live Q&A?

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With questions about rest,

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does anyone have everything or anything,

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or is everyone good?

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Everyone good?

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Okay, all right.

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So what would someone like to open the floor with?

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By the way, Lindsay, I'm very proud of my lighting.

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This is probably the best lighting I've ever recorded.

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It looks great.

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She always records in good lighting.

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I'm here in the shadows.

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People is why I'm in Lindsay's group.

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Lindsay's in mine, I'm doing hers

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because I need major help.

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So lighting is one of those things.

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So I have a question.

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We can jump in.

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So I wanna talk about negative emotions

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and maybe I wanna get your perspective on,

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because I think part of my stuckness,

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let me just process this for a second.

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I think part of my stuckness is

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to experience or process negative emotions fully.

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and not full release.

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For different reasons, right?

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to process negative emotions, et cetera, et cetera.

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you know, what, what, what do you do with thinking of emotions? How do you release those?

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I was just looking something up because, like I said, one of our previous member,

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one of our lifetime members, Lori posted this as an encouragement on Casey's post.

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the first while I experienced so much brokenness, dread and pain. And by the way, I know you're

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probably not just talking about like, like, I don't know, and like shifting into rest or

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whatever you're talking about, you actually, like, say, for instance, you made a post the

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other day about the fact that you're processing with the Lord, the fact that you found out that

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you're afraid of people or whatever. And you've never been able to admit that to yourself,

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because you always thought, well, I'm not supposed to feel that way. So we always,

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always try to avoid that negative emotion. So if we find ourselves in a place, so this goes with

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whether or not you're actually trying to shift into rest in an area, or you're kind of like

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trying to explore with the Lord, like something and you start running up against negative emotions.

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So the first while I experienced so much brokenness, dread and pain, because things

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were coming to the surface, I didn't want to deal with feelings of maybe this isn't working.

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And I'm going to be the one who doesn't who this doesn't work for meaning the rest. She said,

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I felt shame and condemnation rise up and felt like I didn't have the energy to deal with it.

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So I didn't. I stopped trying to deal with it. I allow the feelings of overwhelm and tiredness

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and guilt to wash over me like a wave day after day, wave after wave. I allowed things,

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painful things to come up and wash over me and leave my body. It sucked. No sugar coating it.

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I released the need to suppress and hide my emotions. It felt like an old version of myself

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was slowly dying and shedding off. And it scared me. Who would I be if I didn't have depression,

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pain, anxiety, guilt, who would I become? And what would happen to me if I let go of needing

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to control everything and everyone in my life, but I pressed on. Then one day it stopped the

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depression gone, the anxiety, mostly gone, OCD gone, the need to control things gone,

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et cetera, et cetera. Um, so, and then, uh, later on, she says, you know, I released God from

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needing to show up in my life, but he showed up anyway, in big, big ways. I've been talking to

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some of y'all about that in the transformation sessions about completely releasing God of

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accountability to you for any outcome in your life. And she is talking about that because that's what,

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you know, um, that's what I talked to her about. She said, I released God from needing to show up

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in my life. And then he decided to show up because I released him of the obligation to do so anyway,

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suddenly love was coming in waves, then peace, then freedom. And then finally joy. So, um,

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my point of that is, um, to just kind of walk through a testimony that someone has recently

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gave of the fact that they were finding themselves in that situation where they'd always, whenever

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they'd run up against negative emotions, they'd always resisted it and they hadn't allowed them

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allowed it to fully come up. And what I have learned, and I I'm one of those people that

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has struggled with that as well. And the reason I did is that I thought that even though,

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how would I describe this? Um, that I thought not that, that I wasn't allowed to feel negative

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emotions. I thought not only did that mean something bad about me, that it was triggered,

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but I wasn't allowed to continue to feel it, et cetera. But I had to eventually come to the point

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that it was by that because I was feeling it because it's like a detox. Someone else. And I

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were talking about that today. It's like a detox and that it feels worse before it feels better.

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And the, and the reason that we feel that way is because it exists and that it exists, whether or

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not we're feeling it. So it's evidence of the fact it's so the point is it's finally something

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that's there is finally evidencing itself that it's there. And the whole point of that is so

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that you can finally let it go. But in order to let it go, not only do we have to allow our,

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allow that feeling to come up, we have to let it, you know, and show itself. We have to let it kind

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of, um, manner of speaking, come to its fullness and come up. And so it can come out. And if we

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continue to tell ourselves that that's wrong and I shouldn't feel that way and start condemning

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ourselves for the feelings or what's triggered the feelings or whatever it won't, we won't fully face

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it and deal with it. So it can be released. If it's coming out, it means it's trying to, it means

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it's been.

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triggered to be released kind of like toxins in ourselves, how a detox works by going to the,

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going to cells, like say for instance, fat cells that are trying to neutralize toxins.

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a hot bath. It's stuff is getting out of their skin. They're sweating it off or things are being

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released to the colon or whatever. Okay. Where do we have those toxins? You know, health let's go

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get them open up the fat cells. It releases it all into the bellhead strain to try to get it out.

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And it's because it's been triggered to be released. So with those, so that's what our

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triggers are. Our triggers are invitations by God to release the thing that we're in bondage in,

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that we didn't know we were in bondage in. So we're in bondage to it, whether or not we're

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feeling it. It's God's graciousness that allows us to feel it as a, and we're feeling it because

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it's actually in kind of like the process, kind of thinking about a child moving into the birth

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canal. It's finally moved into position to be able to be released. So we have an opportunity

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to either stifle it and pull it back in, or to let, you know, to release ourselves to the process

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and let the thing go out. And the way by doing that is to actually kind of what sometimes people

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refer to as like ride the wave, like ride it to its fullness and ride it out with the Lord,

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not get in the faster and you'll do it faster by not condemning yourself for feeling that way,

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not condemning yourself for being triggered, not condemning yourself for the root of the issue,

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for the lie that you believe that put it there. Anyway, the longer that we get upset at the

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revelation that we have, the longer and more painful, the process of release and letting go

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is going to be, if we just succumb to it and we're like, okay, whatever comes, whatever pain,

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whatever this process looks like, I'm going to just allow it to be, but we do it with the Lord.

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You're not just like sitting there, allowing yourself to just feel all this emotion. You're

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going through the process of like letting it go and releasing it to the Lord, but there's nothing.

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But my point is, well, what do you do with the feelings that you're feeling while you're

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releasing it to the Lord? You fully let it come up and out. It's almost like allowing something

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to come to a head or come to its fullness. God talks about this in relationship to sin.

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When he says, I'm waiting for sin to come to or wickedness or evil, or I don't remember which

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word he uses, to come to its fullness before I address it in my wrath. Talking about, you know,

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like the end of days and the end of time, you know, where he's going to come and he's going to deal

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with it all. It says he's waiting for wickedness to come to its fullness. And it's that aspect,

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you just kind of like allow the thing to come to its fullness so that it can come up and out.

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And unfortunately means that we have to feel bad in a way that we don't want to feel bad,

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but we're being poisoned by it, whether or not we're feeling bad. So we might as well let it go

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so that we're no longer, even when we're not feeling it and it's hiding in the darkness,

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we're no longer being poisoned by it because it's now out. So there's nothing wrong with

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like all of those negative feelings and feeling them. It's important to allow them to just come

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in now because they're just, there's nothing wrong with the feelings because the feelings

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are just a thermometer telling you what you already, what you're believing about something

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or whatever the feelings themselves, even though they're not comfortable, they're not a sin to

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feel. They're actually given by God to be an indication to us, to point us to something,

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to alert us to something or, or whatever. Did that answer your question that I address it?

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I think that's really helpful. I think, you know, cause I mentioned before,

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I'm beginning to realize a lot of my unrest has to do with relationships with other people. And

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so the negative emotions are often tied to another person like anger towards someone for the way

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they've treated me, et cetera. And so just a quick follow-up question would be, obviously it makes

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sense to release up with the Lord and that may be against the other person. So like anger, for

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instance, like expressing that towards another person be angry and send not I can connect those

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dots. That was really helpful. If you find yourself up against the same trigger, say with the same

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person, is there something like, does that mean it hasn't been fully released or is there something

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that I could do? Maybe that's not the right question. Cause I find that there's the same

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triggers, even though I feel like I forgiven this person or, you know, I've tried to release this.

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It could just be, I haven't fully felt the thing that could be it. And I definitely want to try

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that. But do you have advice for like reoccurring triggers? So one thing that I want to mention

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before I forget about it is you talking about, you know, is it, I don't remember what you said,

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but what it prompted me to mention.

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is that feeling it to its fullness.

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That's what it was.

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You said, well, maybe I'm not feeling it to its fullness.

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The part of the importance of that is what I talk about when I talk about like

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making, um, making decisions in the spirit versus in the soul is the same kind of

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principle, our spirit, our soul is kind of like, think of it kind of like a child

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and the fact, and you've heard me talk about this, think of it kind of like a

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child and the fact that until you allow it to have it say, it's going to yap.

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And it's just going to try to get attention.

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So the same thing with like a feeling, unless we fully allow it to, to, you

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know, if, if, um, cause by the way, God can release us into rest without feeling

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the feelings without going through this process, et cetera, but very often we

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just go through this process.

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God did create a process and things pass through it, et cetera.

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So, you know, there's nothing wrong with going through a process,

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Jesus pastor process.

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So if we find ourselves in a process where we haven't miraculously shifted

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into rest, you know, and some inner healing, and we got some inner healing,

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you know, without actually knowing what we needed to be healed by, if we actually

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know what we need to be healed from, and we're now feeling all this stuff and

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we're going through this whole healing process, um, it's, that's what I'm

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talking about, where the soul, if the soul decides that it has a, it, it has

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something that it wants to say it's, it won't quiet down until we just let it

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have it say, so we just let it have it say, in other words, fully face what it

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is that we're really, how we really feel.

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And so if we haven't let it have that time, it's going to continue because in

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a manner of speaking, it's being eaten up until it gets until it's getting the

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attention it needs, because kind of like a child, it kind of needs that in order

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to start its process of healing.

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Have I been heard?

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Because you have got to understand it hurt this bad.

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Do you know what happened to me?

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You know, today it's a, we could think of it kind of like that we do a child

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and we can think of it as immaturity and whatever, but the point is it's an

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aspect of ourselves that we have to fully face and give it voice, you know,

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and, and kind of like honor it, you know, and then it feels heard.

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And as soon as it feels heard, it quiets down and then it's a lot easier to hear

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the spirit and to hear what it meaning like our spirit, sure.

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The Holy spirit, absolutely.

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But even our spirit, it's a lot easier to hear because it's more

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mature and it's going to sit there quietly unless we're trying to give it

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its voice and then it's trying to talk, but then that soul is just yapping.

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And it's really hard with all the noise for us to try to discern what am I

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feeling in my spirit versus what am I feeling in my soul?

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So if we just stop our spirit for just a second and be honest about that other

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aspect of ourselves and what it's feeling and allow it to have it say it's a lot.

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Um, we can get a lot more deep down healing, um, because we're really,

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truly dealing with all aspects of ourselves and allowing all aspects of

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ourselves to have had their voice in their part in the healing process, et cetera.

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So anyway, that being said that that can be part of like, why, well,

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I thought that I've dealt with this, but if the soul didn't feel that it got

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what it needed and didn't feel like it, um, anyone listened to it and that

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it never got to talk about it.

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And Noah was never acknowledged how badly it hurts.

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Well, then there's an aspect of ourselves that's never fully healed.

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Um, so anyway, there's that, but then I knew I was going to have to do this.

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So can you remind me of your question over time?

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Well, I think you answered it.

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I mean, I was just asking about, you know, what is reoccurring triggers

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telling us when you feel like I want to be over this, I've released

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this person through forgiveness, but anytime there is a, you know, point

447
00:28:39.120 --> 00:28:43.680
of contact with them, or sometimes even a memory that say I'll use anger.

448
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:46.120
Cause that's something it's anger builds up and I'm like

449
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:47.880
annoyed and frustrated again.

450
00:28:48.600 --> 00:28:49.160
Yeah, correct.

451
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:52.360
There's still an element in that we haven't dealt with

452
00:28:52.560 --> 00:28:54.120
in which we feel threatened.

453
00:28:54.760 --> 00:28:59.920
So just because we have, and we all know that it's just because someone

454
00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:01.600
hurts us and we forgive them.

455
00:29:01.600 --> 00:29:06.680
Doesn't mean that we have to interact with them in situations that

456
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:08.920
require us giving them our trust.

457
00:29:09.600 --> 00:29:09.960
Right.

458
00:29:10.120 --> 00:29:12.400
So we all know that we don't have to do that.

459
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:18.960
But the thing is there's an aspect of sometimes like if we're in a

460
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:21.760
situation where we know, okay, well, I'm not giving them my trust, but I'm

461
00:29:21.760 --> 00:29:24.600
sitting at a table with them and like maybe a whole bunch of other people,

462
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:27.480
but then they're coming, they're, they're there and we're all, I'm kind

463
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.360
of in their presence, regardless of whether or not it's just me and them,

464
00:29:30.360 --> 00:29:34.520
or it's a whole bunch of other people there, if we're still having an issue,

465
00:29:34.520 --> 00:29:37.840
it can mean that there's some aspect of say, for instance, our identity

466
00:29:37.840 --> 00:29:42.440
or our sense of self-worth or confidence in ourselves and who it is

467
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:49.600
that we are, that is being, um, that, that, uh, is being threatened

468
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:51.960
by our history with them.

469
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:58.400
And so if we, if we, if we, um, Like in like self-worth, et cetera, and

470
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:00.000
the more that we establish those.

471
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:05.520
things between us and the Lord, the less that what they do actually bothers us.

472
00:30:05.840 --> 00:30:10.400
So yes, we really have dealt with what it is that we thought that we dealt with.

473
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:13.840
So like you said, it's just going into a deeper layer.

474
00:30:13.840 --> 00:30:15.760
And I should have prefaced what I said with that.

475
00:30:15.760 --> 00:30:17.520
We're just going into a deeper layer.

476
00:30:17.520 --> 00:30:22.560
And so it's letting us know at some base, at base level, there's something about

477
00:30:23.040 --> 00:30:27.120
human affirmation, maybe from our mom or maybe from a school teacher when we were

478
00:30:27.120 --> 00:30:32.560
young or whatever, that's created this belief in us that we're not quite good

479
00:30:32.560 --> 00:30:37.600
enough unless these ducks all line up in how someone treats me in a church

480
00:30:37.600 --> 00:30:41.600
situation or in a business situation or, or whatever.

481
00:30:42.080 --> 00:30:44.560
Um, and, and that's what it can be triggering.

482
00:30:44.560 --> 00:30:49.760
So God's just revealing that there is a deeper stronghold that it's that the

483
00:30:49.760 --> 00:30:55.760
memory is still triggering and it's beyond simply, uh, it's, it's even deeper

484
00:30:55.760 --> 00:30:59.840
than what it is that we had originally dealt with and that we, you know, shifted

485
00:30:59.840 --> 00:31:02.000
into rest, uh, and whatever.

486
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:08.640
So it's very, very, very important that we acknowledge to ourselves and, and I

487
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:14.320
wish I could think of the right word for this, but that we really have, that we

488
00:31:14.320 --> 00:31:21.360
really have chosen and, um, what it is, uh, and, and shifted and changed and learned

489
00:31:21.360 --> 00:31:25.520
or whatever, what it is that we thought that we did that we really did die.

490
00:31:25.520 --> 00:31:28.720
And the way that we thought that we did, we really did trust the Lord.

491
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:33.360
So for, if we're doing it again, it just means that we're being, um, that there

492
00:31:33.360 --> 00:31:38.080
was a deeper, a deeper level that's now being exposed that wasn't exposed before

493
00:31:38.080 --> 00:31:39.520
because there was all this.

494
00:31:39.520 --> 00:31:44.080
But now that we've dealt with that, now this layer is exposed, et cetera.

495
00:31:44.080 --> 00:31:48.880
Um, so, and, and the way that Edwards that is, um, you know, I always talk

496
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.960
about going deeper, but one of the ways that he expresses it is this feeling of

497
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:54.720
like going around the mountain.

498
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:58.800
He said, we really are doing that, but it's at a higher level this time.

499
00:31:58.800 --> 00:32:02.160
So in other words, we really are improving, so to speak.

500
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:04.640
And I really don't like to use that word, but we really are improving.

501
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:06.080
We really did make progress.

502
00:32:07.040 --> 00:32:10.320
It's just a different level of the mountain.

503
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:14.560
So as opposed to, you know, thinking, well, I've already been on the side of

504
00:32:14.560 --> 00:32:15.600
the mountain last time.

505
00:32:15.600 --> 00:32:17.440
And does this mean it didn't work last time?

506
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:19.680
No, you're just seeing it at a higher elevation.

507
00:32:22.800 --> 00:32:24.000
Super helpful.

508
00:32:24.080 --> 00:32:24.480
Thank you.

509
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:25.840
You're welcome.

510
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:28.720
Um, okay.

511
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.760
So did Liberty, did you have a question?

512
00:32:33.360 --> 00:32:34.560
Oh, Nick, sorry, Nick.

513
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.360
Oh, you're not on video, but always the whole time.

514
00:32:37.360 --> 00:32:38.160
I'm so sorry.

515
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:38.880
Y'all got caught.

516
00:32:39.520 --> 00:32:42.240
Um, the whole time questions been asking and been answered.

517
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:47.200
Oh, um, for weeks now, oops, for weeks now I've been hearing there's no

518
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:48.480
butthole of the soul.

519
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:49.600
That is fascinating.

520
00:32:49.600 --> 00:32:50.720
Never heard that before.

521
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:51.920
I now have a new phrase.

522
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:52.720
Okay.

523
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:55.760
Which I debated on sharing.

524
00:32:55.760 --> 00:32:56.960
Oh, it's great to share.

525
00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:58.320
I'm going to share that with Ed.

526
00:32:58.320 --> 00:32:59.120
He's going to love it.

527
00:32:59.120 --> 00:33:02.720
He's probably going to use it now, but it's a saying that your sister shared

528
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:04.160
with me from her spiritual mama.

529
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:06.640
And it's very forward, but true.

530
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.360
I think the Lord, those are Ed's favorites, by the way.

531
00:33:09.360 --> 00:33:13.200
I think the Lord was preparing me for this question because Ashley is talking

532
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:16.240
about exactly what I've been dealing with and how the stem must come up and out.

533
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:16.720
Oh, okay.

534
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:18.400
So we've already been talking about it.

535
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:19.040
Okay.

536
00:33:19.040 --> 00:33:21.920
I thought that maybe you had a new question, but that's great.

537
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:23.600
I'm glad that this is resonating.

538
00:33:24.320 --> 00:33:27.760
Another reason why I want to spend more of our time on like either live

539
00:33:27.760 --> 00:33:29.520
Q and A's or live interaction.

540
00:33:29.520 --> 00:33:32.240
Cause a friend of mine, one of the ladies who's been in the rest

541
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.680
intensive, she mentioned that the reason that she liked the live videos.

542
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.240
Cause I asked her, you know, what do you think about the live videos versus

543
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:41.600
the recording, you know, as far as the effectiveness for people on the

544
00:33:41.600 --> 00:33:42.240
receiving end.

545
00:33:42.800 --> 00:33:46.160
And she said, one of the reasons she likes the live videos is it's getting

546
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.480
fresh spirit from me in the moment.

547
00:33:49.280 --> 00:33:52.800
And she said, sometimes I'll be teaching about something that I've taught,

548
00:33:52.800 --> 00:33:54.640
you know, dozens and dozens and dozens of times.

549
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:56.560
So I'm thinking, Oh, I'm just doing the same teaching.

550
00:33:56.560 --> 00:33:59.120
But she said, actually we'll go on these rabbit trails and the rabbit

551
00:33:59.120 --> 00:34:02.160
trails that you think are like, you know, you're going off script.

552
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.160
You're like, Oh, I'm so sorry for wasting everybody's time.

553
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:05.520
People will come back to it.

554
00:34:05.520 --> 00:34:09.440
She said, those rabbit trails would be what I needed to hear that week.

555
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:13.280
So, um, that's why I wanted to do a bit more live stuff.

556
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:13.600
Okay.

557
00:34:13.600 --> 00:34:17.520
So she, he said, my question would be, how do I face these overwhelming

558
00:34:17.520 --> 00:34:19.760
emotions and grief without being terrified?

559
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:23.280
Or what do I do when I'm terrified so that I can comfort myself that this

560
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:26.239
is good and not a sign of bad.

561
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:30.719
Um, one of the things that we're used to is we're used to being, um, for

562
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.320
one thing, like I said, with Lindsay, we're used to thinking, feeling

563
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.120
badly about ourselves if we feel bad.

564
00:34:37.120 --> 00:34:40.320
So we think that it's saying something about us.

565
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:44.159
If we have that feeling, if we have anger, if we have whatever, but

566
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:47.679
remember, God doesn't create bad things.

567
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:47.920
Okay.

568
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:53.199
Some point Roman seven, he said, even the law itself is holy.

569
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:54.560
So God doesn't create.

570
00:34:54.560 --> 00:34:57.600
So if God created the law, including the tree of the knowledge of good and

571
00:34:57.600 --> 00:34:59.840
evil, you know, that God doesn't.

572
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.760
not create bad things.

573
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:08.120
Um, so just because we're feeling a particular way, doesn't make the

574
00:35:08.120 --> 00:35:13.160
feeling that God created us to be able to have, to be bad.

575
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:14.920
So it's not bad.

576
00:35:15.560 --> 00:35:16.960
To feel that way.

577
00:35:17.220 --> 00:35:21.840
It's trying to tell you something about like some belief that you have, some fear

578
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:26.320
that you have or whatever, and all that the invitation, all of these things are

579
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:31.940
whenever we're suffering in pain, um, like, uh, or whenever we're, we're

580
00:35:31.940 --> 00:35:37.420
struggling in any area, all that those things are is, you know, we're so used

581
00:35:37.420 --> 00:35:41.980
to thinking of them as like lessons that, or tests, I should say tests of like,

582
00:35:41.980 --> 00:35:43.780
God has been teaching us all this stuff.

583
00:35:44.380 --> 00:35:45.860
And then he gives us a test.

584
00:35:46.220 --> 00:35:49.220
And how do you recognize that you're in a test where you're in a lot of pain

585
00:35:49.220 --> 00:35:51.880
and you get a lot of suffering and you're going through really bad

586
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.160
experiences and, and whatever.

587
00:35:54.380 --> 00:35:56.760
And we just think, oh my word, God's testing us.

588
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:00.900
Oh my Kenneth, let's pull back in my files and my experiences with the Lord

589
00:36:00.900 --> 00:36:06.360
and try to figure out what has he taught me that he's now giving me a test for.

590
00:36:06.980 --> 00:36:11.980
To know what to apply to this situation, to fix it and to pass it appropriately.

591
00:36:12.380 --> 00:36:14.940
And that's just not what I believe is going on.

592
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:20.380
What it is is these are, they're always invitations by God going through pain

593
00:36:20.380 --> 00:36:26.600
and suffering is invitations by God to, to shift in from bondage.

594
00:36:26.640 --> 00:36:29.080
Cause that's why we're feeling the pain and the suffering to

595
00:36:29.080 --> 00:36:31.640
shift from bondage into freedom.

596
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:37.320
Because whether or not we've been alerted, like even prior to having

597
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.800
the feeling prior to being alerted, that there was this issue within us

598
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.480
that we've not been triggered by.

599
00:36:42.940 --> 00:36:44.920
It was within us poisoning us.

600
00:36:45.120 --> 00:36:48.100
There was some belief that we had that was poisoning us and

601
00:36:48.100 --> 00:36:49.800
we didn't know it was there.

602
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:56.320
And so the, the, the feeling that comes up allows us to know.

603
00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:02.120
Oh, now I'm alerted that there is actually some aspect in which I

604
00:37:02.120 --> 00:37:04.100
am in bondage and I didn't know.

605
00:37:04.100 --> 00:37:06.760
So now I have the opportunity to let it go.

606
00:37:07.600 --> 00:37:11.820
Now I have the opportunity to no longer be in bondage to that because

607
00:37:11.820 --> 00:37:17.320
there's aspects of our life that we're, we're taking that bondage and we

608
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:21.380
are pouring into those aspects of various aspects of life out of that

609
00:37:21.380 --> 00:37:25.420
bondage and it's poisoning those aspects of life, it's damaging them.

610
00:37:25.420 --> 00:37:26.600
It's destroying them.

611
00:37:26.600 --> 00:37:28.980
It's just destroying our experience with them.

612
00:37:28.980 --> 00:37:31.780
It's, and we have no idea if no idea.

613
00:37:31.980 --> 00:37:35.380
So God's like child are, I know that you're in pain.

614
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:37.480
You've always been in bondage.

615
00:37:37.540 --> 00:37:38.940
Wouldn't you like to be free?

616
00:37:39.380 --> 00:37:40.580
That's all that they are.

617
00:37:40.620 --> 00:37:46.580
All of these things are simply invitations from a loving kind God, not to pass a test

618
00:37:46.600 --> 00:37:49.520
and let's see if you learn what it is that I've taught you.

619
00:37:49.520 --> 00:37:53.280
And, you know, you know, as if, because what is, what picture does that give us?

620
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:58.760
We're abandoned and alone and separated by from God and we better get it right.

621
00:37:59.240 --> 00:38:01.640
You know, and that's just not the case.

622
00:38:01.640 --> 00:38:03.800
God's like, Hey, look, child, you're always with me.

623
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:05.080
I've never left you.

624
00:38:05.080 --> 00:38:06.200
I'm always holding you.

625
00:38:06.200 --> 00:38:07.260
We're always one.

626
00:38:07.260 --> 00:38:12.840
We're always intimate, but you've been in bondage, your life that you're

627
00:38:12.860 --> 00:38:19.380
operating out of a way and having a particular life experience in bondage.

628
00:38:19.540 --> 00:38:24.840
Wouldn't you like to experience aspect those aspects of your life in freedom?

629
00:38:25.460 --> 00:38:32.060
Wouldn't you like to, to have the spirit of life flowing through you in that area

630
00:38:32.260 --> 00:38:38.660
into those areas of life that are now currently being fed by death from your

631
00:38:39.660 --> 00:38:45.020
Wouldn't you like to pour life from your spirit into those areas?

632
00:38:45.260 --> 00:38:46.680
So that's what that shows.

633
00:38:46.680 --> 00:38:50.640
So my point is that that's why we shouldn't be afraid.

634
00:38:50.980 --> 00:38:55.820
They're not saying that, that they're, that we're bad people because we feel

635
00:38:55.820 --> 00:39:00.100
that way because that we feel angry because someone did something to us that

636
00:39:00.100 --> 00:39:05.540
we feel afraid and that's why we did a sin, you know, who it is that we are.

637
00:39:05.540 --> 00:39:06.720
Remember is our spirit.

638
00:39:06.720 --> 00:39:13.040
Our flesh is operating out of fear that it's been abandoned and alone, and it

639
00:39:13.040 --> 00:39:17.320
is all by itself to protect itself, that our spirit won't protect it, that it's

640
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:22.980
not safe with its own spirit, but alone with God, you know, and, um, so it is

641
00:39:23.040 --> 00:39:28.360
operating out of self-protection, trying to take care of you in the best way

642
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:29.700
that it knows how the problem is.

643
00:39:29.700 --> 00:39:34.560
It thinks that separation from God will protect you doing it on its own will

644
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:38.400
and we have to choose, make a different choice.

645
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:39.200
You have to choose.

646
00:39:39.200 --> 00:39:40.800
No, God is our protection.

647
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:41.460
God is our safety.

648
00:39:41.460 --> 00:39:47.080
So in other words, my point in saying all of that is to create context for just

649
00:39:47.080 --> 00:39:51.680
because we have feelings and it reveals to us that we've been believing something

650
00:39:51.680 --> 00:39:55.080
wrong and other words that we've been sending, because sin is simply unbelief.

651
00:39:55.080 --> 00:39:56.080
Sin is not the action.

652
00:39:56.080 --> 00:40:00.000
Sin is the unbelief that the action resulted from so that.

653
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.360
We have some measure of unbelief, but remember that measure of unbelief is in

654
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:07.280
your flesh, not in your spirit and your identity is in your spirit.

655
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.520
So there's still nothing wrong with who you are.

656
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:12.920
It just means that there's an aspect in which you're not believing God.

657
00:40:13.300 --> 00:40:19.200
And so God is allowing you to be in this situation for you to actually finally be

658
00:40:19.200 --> 00:40:25.440
free in an area that you weren't free in before, but it's not going to give you a

659
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:32.480
greater connection with God by getting free than you had before.

660
00:40:33.040 --> 00:40:36.960
You've always had it and you always will, because remember it's in your spirit.

661
00:40:37.640 --> 00:40:44.880
So you're not doing something to gain more access, so to speak with God, you're

662
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:51.200
already unified with him, but being in bondage means that there are, there's a

663
00:40:51.200 --> 00:40:59.280
resistance that you are actively doing in your unbelief to experiencing God and

664
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:03.680
God's like, wouldn't you like to remove it so that you can experience more of the

665
00:41:03.680 --> 00:41:07.680
union, but it doesn't mean that you don't have the union.

666
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.880
It means that you're not allowing yourself to experience it.

667
00:41:11.640 --> 00:41:17.320
And so by shifting, by releasing the bondage and shifting into freedom and

668
00:41:17.600 --> 00:41:22.280
you know, well, yeah, I was going to go somewhere with that, but I'll just leave

669
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:28.240
it there to, by doing that, you're allowing yourself to experience more of

670
00:41:28.240 --> 00:41:30.200
what God said he's already given you.

671
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:32.700
He's already given you everything he can give you.

672
00:41:32.700 --> 00:41:34.040
He's already given you all the gifts.

673
00:41:34.040 --> 00:41:35.640
He's already given you all the access to him.

674
00:41:36.120 --> 00:41:39.960
We're the ones who are choosing whether or not we'll be vulnerable enough, open

675
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:45.440
enough to allow those, to allow ourselves to be absorbed very vulnerably and out of

676
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:50.760
control into him to the point where we can finally experience all those things.

677
00:41:51.200 --> 00:41:52.600
And so that's what the bondage is.

678
00:41:52.600 --> 00:41:56.840
The bondage is keeping us from being able to experience them, but

679
00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:58.840
we're not gaining more of God.

680
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:04.360
We're simply removing the fact that we're not allowing ourselves to experience that

681
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:09.720
more, God's already given it all and he can't give any more if he's already given

682
00:42:09.720 --> 00:42:14.400
us himself, if we're literally inside himself, we have access to it all.

683
00:42:15.080 --> 00:42:22.160
So anyway, um, that I say all of that to explain that there's no re that there's

684
00:42:22.160 --> 00:42:28.320
no foundation, um, in order to remove the thing that we have always founded our

685
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:33.360
terror in, that there's something wrong with us that is creating separation from

686
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:41.040
God and that God is looking on me to make sure that I get it right or that, um, I'm

687
00:42:41.040 --> 00:42:42.520
abandoned and alone.

688
00:42:43.120 --> 00:42:48.800
And so I've got to face this horrible thing, this anger, this fear, this whatever.

689
00:42:49.120 --> 00:42:53.800
And it's, and because God won't take care of me, or I can't trust that he's going

690
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:58.840
to, then, like I said, you know, then I'm all alone and sure I'm afraid of the

691
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:01.040
consequences of dealing with this situation.

692
00:43:01.040 --> 00:43:03.520
I'm afraid of my, the conflict in this relationship.

693
00:43:03.520 --> 00:43:05.040
I'm afraid of what they're going to do to me.

694
00:43:05.040 --> 00:43:09.400
I'm afraid of the potential of, you know, lack of finances, or I'm afraid of

695
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:14.640
whatever we're afraid because we don't trust that we're provided for and

696
00:43:14.640 --> 00:43:20.960
protected already, we, we associate and found our sense of provision and

697
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.400
protection on our lifestyle.

698
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:24.680
Do I have money?

699
00:43:24.680 --> 00:43:25.720
Do I not have money?

700
00:43:25.720 --> 00:43:26.440
Do I have this?

701
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:27.400
Do I not have this?

702
00:43:27.720 --> 00:43:30.280
That is telling me whether or not I'm okay.

703
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:34.000
And it, and it's not, it doesn't.

704
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:35.480
And we have to choose that.

705
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:37.720
It's not telling us whether or not we're okay.

706
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:43.200
And God will bring us to the point where we don't have the thing.

707
00:43:43.600 --> 00:43:45.280
We don't have the relationship.

708
00:43:45.560 --> 00:43:46.920
We don't have the money.

709
00:43:47.120 --> 00:43:48.640
We don't have the food.

710
00:43:49.160 --> 00:43:49.680
I've been there.

711
00:43:50.120 --> 00:43:51.480
We don't have the whatever.

712
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.000
And God says, okay, now that you don't have it, who do you say that I am now

713
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:03.720
that I haven't manifested in evidence, what you call in your world provision.

714
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:08.240
Now that I haven't met your standard, who do you say that I am?

715
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:13.080
And I have to release this from being my standard of whether or not God is provider.

716
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:19.000
And I choose as my standard that he's provider, simply the fact that he said it

717
00:44:20.200 --> 00:44:22.000
and it releases him of the oblet.

718
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.760
And I've been released some of the, in order to do that, I have to release him

719
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:31.680
from the obligation of ever giving of ever manifesting the old thing that I

720
00:44:31.720 --> 00:44:36.240
used to use to determine whether or not he was providing for me.

721
00:44:37.080 --> 00:44:40.920
And so, and the way that I have, um, that a way that I've had to do that

722
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:44.880
is God's put me in the situations where there was no thing.

723
00:44:45.720 --> 00:44:46.760
There was no provision.

724
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:48.640
There was no, what it felt like safety.

725
00:44:48.680 --> 00:44:50.920
There was no protection or whatever.

726
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:54.080
Now in that place, God's like, who do you say that I am?

727
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:57.400
You have got to disassociate me from your experiences.

728
00:44:58.160 --> 00:44:59.920
You've got to, in that is the only.

729
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.600
way that you can, that I can be, that you will allow me to be bigger than your experiences.

730
00:45:06.160 --> 00:45:12.320
Because if you choose your experiences over me, you're making them more, you're giving them the

731
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:17.360
authority to be the highest power in your life. And so if they're not there for you,

732
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:22.000
you don't have any power. In other words, you don't, you won't be protected. You know,

733
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:28.560
you won't be safe. But if you choose me over your circumstances, if you choose me over your

734
00:45:28.560 --> 00:45:35.280
experience, then I can bring in the higher power of the kingdom of heaven. So, um, and I've been

735
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:42.160
talking, I think I've been missing your, your texts. I'm so sorry. Um, let's see. So I'm trying

736
00:45:42.160 --> 00:45:46.400
to make sure that I, I, uh, go all the way back. Okay. Here we go. My question would be, okay,

737
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:51.680
I got that. Um, I'm wondering, sorry, I'm catching up on the chat. It's really fast.

738
00:45:52.640 --> 00:45:59.440
Yes. Let's do it. The pain's getting trapped. Uh, yeah, that's a great way to see that Lindsay.

739
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:03.040
Fascinating. Yeah. And then revealing for the healing, going to look at that.

740
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:08.160
Um, I've been told, okay. So I've been told multiple times that I have spirit of fear or

741
00:46:08.160 --> 00:46:13.040
spirit of this and that there have been invitations for demonic deliverance and intense sessions

742
00:46:13.040 --> 00:46:17.520
where people scream from the mouth and all this stuff. So how do we, so then invitations for

743
00:46:17.520 --> 00:46:21.920
deliverance intense sessions. So by that, I'm, I'm assuming that you meant you were in those

744
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:28.560
situations where you were seeing all of that, and then they were inviting you to, to present

745
00:46:28.560 --> 00:46:33.360
yourself for deliverance. I'm assuming that's what you meant. Um, and all this stuff. So how do we

746
00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:39.040
differentiate between those good emotions and our release from bondage and demonic spirits? So

747
00:46:40.240 --> 00:46:44.560
I don't know. I suppose that that's, um, that is a really great question, by the way, to ask

748
00:46:44.560 --> 00:46:52.480
Ed, I wish you were here. Um, but I, so the thing is, would you clarify that question for me?

749
00:46:53.200 --> 00:46:57.120
Because I could go two different directions with that one. So I've also experienced people think

750
00:46:57.120 --> 00:47:02.080
everything is deliverance issue. Yes. They see a team and under every rock associated being scared

751
00:47:02.080 --> 00:47:07.280
and out of control and pain trauma and release with potential. Oh, okay. This probably answers

752
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:11.920
my question. I've associated feeling scared and out of control and pain and trauma released with

753
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:19.680
potential, uh, demonic, uh, presence at such a tightly wound ball of life. Okay. So, uh, honestly,

754
00:47:19.680 --> 00:47:25.360
the demonic is usually the last place that I go. Um, it's absolutely, you know, a very real thing.

755
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.800
And I've watched demonic deliverance. I was watching, I watched it actually last Sunday.

756
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:34.400
That was really fascinating. Um, and Ed has a lot of experience with it. In fact, I just went to

757
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:40.560
dinner with a gentleman who is known as one of the, what would you say that the, one of the top

758
00:47:40.560 --> 00:47:46.800
experts on, um, on demonic deliverance in the world, actually, it's really fascinating. And so

759
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:52.560
he has seen everything. So he's a really fun to pick people's pick his brain, but, um, and he just

760
00:47:52.560 --> 00:47:58.960
accidentally landed in it. He's actually known as known for in the prophetic world. And, but because

761
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:03.680
he was very frustrated with why certain things weren't working and he discovered there was

762
00:48:03.680 --> 00:48:09.520
demonic presences presence. And so he would, he got to learn how to, how to help people deal with

763
00:48:09.520 --> 00:48:13.840
that. So that's how he landed in it. Um, but now he's become, people are so fascinated by the

764
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:17.920
demonic. That's what he's become known for, even though he's very, very, very strong prophetic.

765
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:23.200
Um, so yeah, so feeling scared, you know, and out of control and stuff like that.

766
00:48:23.200 --> 00:48:27.360
Um, like he, like Kate mentioned, a lot of times people just want to see a demon under every rock.

767
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:34.560
That really honestly is the last resort, especially for a very strong spirit filled, um, uh, believer.

768
00:48:34.560 --> 00:48:41.200
It's usually just, there's an aspect of unbelief. Also the demonics often has an anchor in a strong

769
00:48:41.200 --> 00:48:47.200
hold. There's a reason that, that it's there. It has something to be able to attach to very often.

770
00:48:47.200 --> 00:48:55.040
It's the, some kind of an unbelief. So if you deal with that unbelief and those things, um, can, um,

771
00:48:55.040 --> 00:49:01.520
can release whether it's in demonic stronghold or it's a, I don't know, just, um, some kind of a,

772
00:49:01.520 --> 00:49:07.280
a negative feeling, um, the effects of, of traumatic abuse, et cetera. Um, they're being

773
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:16.160
anchored by that and, um, by the unbelief. Um, and so once you, once you choose to give the authority

774
00:49:16.160 --> 00:49:24.720
of God to that part of your life and you choose God over that lie, well, then it releases that

775
00:49:24.720 --> 00:49:29.760
anchor and that anchor releases. And the thing that it was attached to, and that gave it right

776
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:36.960
or authority to be in your life goes away. Um, so, um, anyway, the, I would, I would tell you

777
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:44.800
that it's, it's not like it's impossible or something. It's usually, um, not the issue

778
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:51.680
is, is that the demonic creating some kind of an issue is creating some kind of a problem really

779
00:49:51.680 --> 00:49:57.840
is not the issue, at least the point of meeting major deliverance. If there's some kind of like,

780
00:49:57.840 --> 00:49:59.920
quote unquote, demonic oppression or whatever.

781
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:08.480
There's just this constant attack that can be dispelled by choosing, you know, belief in the

782
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:16.960
Lord by choosing very radically in to choose him over your fear, to choose that he is a higher

783
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:23.520
priority to you than holding onto your fear or to protecting your, or to protect yourself or.

784
00:50:24.240 --> 00:50:29.200
Whatever, even, and I was talking to some people about this today, maybe even yesterday.

785
00:50:30.560 --> 00:50:37.440
That God chooses you over, you know, what it is that you do. You're more important to him

786
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:41.600
than the choices that you're making or the faith or the belief that you're having or whatever.

787
00:50:41.600 --> 00:50:48.480
So you need to choose yourself as being who God says that you are as more important than,

788
00:50:49.120 --> 00:50:54.960
than, um, and more kind of like powerful, if you will, incredible.

789
00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:01.760
Then this other thing that has been a priority like fear or feeling even oppressed by fear,

790
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:07.200
let alone, you know, tormented by it or whatever. It's just, it's not something you're obligated

791
00:51:07.200 --> 00:51:12.880
to hold onto. So you can choose a higher priority in your life. What does God say?

792
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:20.480
And who is God? And that is a higher priority to me to live by and to risk everything on

793
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:26.800
than to protect myself through this traumatic fear or this, whatever.

794
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:30.560
I hope that that makes sense. There's obviously much more we could say about that, but I'm trying

795
00:51:30.560 --> 00:51:37.440
to gather the, um, the unders my understanding, you know, from words. Um, so, and if, and if I

796
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:42.640
haven't answered, you can either, um, you can just let me know in the comments or you can.

797
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:49.440
Okay. Okay. Good. That's really, really good news. Yeah. It's, it's everything with the Lord

798
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:54.560
always, always, always, always, always without exception moves us into more love and freedom,

799
00:51:54.560 --> 00:52:00.640
period, not condemnation, not wrath, not bad news, not difficulty, not more trauma,

800
00:52:00.640 --> 00:52:06.320
not harder work, not more exertion, more effort, more energy required of us. It's always less,

801
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:13.520
but the less is simply giving it to him and choosing him over everything that we've been

802
00:52:13.520 --> 00:52:19.920
carrying, making, holding onto him more important to us and more valuable than holding onto this

803
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:28.160
thing. That's, that's the thing that makes this feel hard is because we've been using these things

804
00:52:28.160 --> 00:52:34.800
to give us a sense of safety, but following the Lord and making these decisions is extremely easy.

805
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:42.800
It's not complicated, but we have to, and all it takes is a choice. But if we're holding onto this,

806
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:48.000
because we value this more than we value him, well, then we're going to find it very hard to

807
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:52.640
let go of this thing and to follow God as he's telling us to him, whatever, because, oh my goodness,

808
00:52:52.640 --> 00:52:58.400
why does he make it so hard? Because he said, you can't hold onto this. Just let it go. That's it.

809
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:04.560
It's very, very easy, but we keep trying to do the, okay, let me follow God, but still do,

810
00:53:04.560 --> 00:53:08.880
still do this. And God's like, you can't do that. So no wonder you find the Christian life hard.

811
00:53:09.600 --> 00:53:15.040
You know, you can't do both. They won't, they don't reconcile. And so we keep, we keep thinking

812
00:53:15.040 --> 00:53:19.520
that it's very, it's very challenging. So everything with the Lord leads us into more love

813
00:53:19.520 --> 00:53:26.880
and freedom, everything, everything. So think, think of that with any difficulty and any pain,

814
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:31.600
it's always, always, always, always, always, always, always without exception, an invitation to move

815
00:53:31.600 --> 00:53:40.240
into more love, more freedom, um, less, less oppression, less weight because God, you know,

816
00:53:40.240 --> 00:53:48.640
no lack. No, it always, it's not more condemnation. It's not this revelation of the Holy spirit. So

817
00:53:48.640 --> 00:53:55.360
you'll feel more bad about yourself. No, they're all invitations to let the thing go. It's like,

818
00:53:55.360 --> 00:54:00.480
you don't have to live like this. If you want to live like this, you can, you know, that's what

819
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:05.440
God, you know, uh, you know, how God, I believe that God interacts with us. If this is what,

820
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:09.360
if you want to hold onto the thing, if you're experiencing all this pain and all the suffering,

821
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:14.480
you want to hold onto it. That's fine. You know, I'll still talk to you and we'll still do things

822
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:19.920
together and we'll still have relationship that won't change, but you're not going to get to

823
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:25.920
receive. And you're not going to get to experience everything that I've already given you while

824
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:30.320
still holding on to all of that. So it's your choice in what kind of a life you want to experience

825
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:36.880
with me and how much of me you want to experience, but that's your choice, but I've already given you

826
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:41.520
everything. And I'm just to talk to you, you know, we're going to still do stuff. You know,

827
00:54:41.520 --> 00:54:47.280
I still got plans. We're still doing together. So it's up to you as to whether or not you want

828
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:54.080
to release it. I'm not giving you more of myself by if you do something, this is not an exchange

829
00:54:54.080 --> 00:54:59.360
program. I've already done it all. There's nothing left for me to do because I've already done it

830
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:00.000
all. And I'm

831
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.160
now and rest is remember on the seventh day, he worked six days and then he rested.

832
00:55:04.160 --> 00:55:05.040
God is now in rest.

833
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:08.200
There's nothing left for him to do because he already done it all.

834
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:11.280
And so he's like, and there's nothing left for you to do either.

835
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:12.200
Cause I've already done it all.

836
00:55:12.200 --> 00:55:16.160
So the thing is, wouldn't you like to experience more of it?

837
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:18.360
So that's, that's all that it is.

838
00:55:19.240 --> 00:55:26.200
So, and we are already at 10, but before we go, does anyone have just anything

839
00:55:26.200 --> 00:55:27.880
that absolutely has to be answered tonight?

840
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:28.960
Yeah, go ahead.

841
00:55:29.720 --> 00:55:30.080
All right.

842
00:55:30.200 --> 00:55:31.760
It's, it's along the same stream.

843
00:55:32.160 --> 00:55:38.120
Um, now that we have permission to feel, and now that we have permission to let

844
00:55:38.120 --> 00:55:44.640
it surface and to fix it, um, and to, for the Lord to come in and face it with him.

845
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:51.880
Um, I think for a long time, I, more so years ago, I was like, I would observe

846
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:53.760
all these things, I'm a big justice person.

847
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:54.520
I'm like, that's not right.

848
00:55:54.520 --> 00:55:55.480
You can't treat people like that.

849
00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:56.120
That's not okay.

850
00:55:56.120 --> 00:55:58.840
So I would just tell everyone, I just be like, that's super messed up.

851
00:55:58.840 --> 00:55:59.920
Like, don't do that anymore.

852
00:56:00.640 --> 00:56:01.920
That didn't go over super well.

853
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:07.120
So then I think I swung to the opposite and I was like, oh, well,

854
00:56:07.120 --> 00:56:08.680
I just won't confront anything.

855
00:56:08.720 --> 00:56:10.200
I won't tell anybody it's my issue.

856
00:56:10.200 --> 00:56:12.920
I'm really pursuing this unoffendable life.

857
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:14.480
Is that like possible?

858
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:14.840
Right.

859
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:19.520
And, um, and so then I think I just shoved down all the things.

860
00:56:19.520 --> 00:56:21.960
Cause I'm like the repercussions, if I address it, if I have a

861
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:24.360
conversation about it, if it's a repeat offender, if it's a family

862
00:56:25.080 --> 00:56:28.800
if they're just like constantly doing these self-centered things

863
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:31.320
or whatever the case is, there's so many examples.

864
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:36.280
Um, at what point is it permissible or, or like, I mean, it's so

865
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:40.880
circumstantial, but to actually have these conversations with, with

866
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:46.720
somebody that the that's causing these triggers, yeah, um, really great

867
00:56:46.720 --> 00:56:49.600
question and it's after you let it go.

868
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:53.440
So here's why, and we'll talk about it when we talk about, uh, when y'all

869
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:57.160
get to session five, I believe session five.

870
00:56:57.200 --> 00:56:57.720
No, that's not.

871
00:56:58.000 --> 00:56:59.080
I think it's like session.

872
00:56:59.120 --> 00:56:59.440
Oh, wow.

873
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:00.360
I think it's session seven.

874
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:03.800
Anyway, I think it might be the last session and that is practical

875
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:06.840
shifting tools that you can use in order to shift into rest.

876
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:09.760
And one of them is no, what I refer to as no judgment.

877
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:14.080
And that is what we're doing is we're judging a situation.

878
00:57:14.120 --> 00:57:15.840
We're saying it shouldn't be like this.

879
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:16.840
It should be different.

880
00:57:17.640 --> 00:57:20.840
Whether, uh, and it should be a lot, it could be something like I've

881
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:22.880
sinned and oh my word, I shouldn't have done that.

882
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:25.760
And I cause this problem and that shouldn't be in me.

883
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:28.560
You know, it should be different, or it could be someone's done

884
00:57:28.560 --> 00:57:30.120
something to us or to someone else.

885
00:57:30.120 --> 00:57:31.000
They shouldn't have done that.

886
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:31.840
It shouldn't be like that.

887
00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:32.680
It should be different.

888
00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:36.240
And we're judging the situation, but here's the problem.

889
00:57:36.720 --> 00:57:40.960
If we're in a state of unrest, it means that, um, oh, wow.

890
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:43.200
We haven't gotten to this, this, uh, part yet.

891
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:49.040
Um, it's, um, uh, how do I explain this really quickly?

892
00:57:49.560 --> 00:57:50.120
Okay.

893
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:54.720
Um, and Matt, so we are, you know, we're spirit, soul, and body

894
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:56.600
and our identity is in our spirit.

895
00:57:56.600 --> 00:58:00.240
But if we believe that that's not who we are and that we're actually

896
00:58:00.240 --> 00:58:04.400
this big problem that we're this, that we're our flesh, that we're

897
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:06.680
either our body or we're our soul.

898
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:10.560
Who is like basically the gatekeeper and the decision maker of like, well, are

899
00:58:10.560 --> 00:58:12.040
we going to choose to believe God or not?

900
00:58:12.040 --> 00:58:14.600
Our spirit, our identity, it's already chosen to believe God.

901
00:58:14.600 --> 00:58:17.200
It's never known anything, but it's already dealt with it.

902
00:58:17.640 --> 00:58:21.880
The gateway, if we believe that the part of ourselves that is allowed is

903
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:25.200
choosing whether or not to agree with the spirit and allow the whole thing

904
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:30.720
to be, um, uh, to, you know, express into the physical form, who it is

905
00:58:30.720 --> 00:58:34.080
that God says that we are, if we think that we're that, or we think that

906
00:58:34.080 --> 00:58:37.800
we're in the body, then we're in a state in a state of unrest, right?

907
00:58:38.080 --> 00:58:42.760
And that's where we think we've got, we, and that's, and us believing

908
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:44.280
that our identity is not in our spirit.

909
00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:49.080
And we believe instead it's in our solar and our body comes from the fact that we

910
00:58:49.080 --> 00:58:54.600
have been, um, that we don't believe that God is who he says that he is or that,

911
00:58:54.640 --> 00:59:00.040
um, uh, that we, sorry, again, these are like whole hour teachings.

912
00:59:00.040 --> 00:59:01.520
I'm trying to summarize them really fast.

913
00:59:02.040 --> 00:59:07.200
Uh, that, that, and, and therefore there's something about God that

914
00:59:07.200 --> 00:59:11.640
we're not believing for instance, that we're not safe, that I can't

915
00:59:11.640 --> 00:59:13.160
believe that person said that to me.

916
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:14.800
You know, well, this isn't right.

917
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:16.040
And I'm not okay.

918
00:59:16.040 --> 00:59:19.280
And I'm not safe and I need to protect myself because, oh my goodness,

919
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:23.200
they could go tell other people or, you know, you know, or I don't know.

920
00:59:23.200 --> 00:59:26.600
I feel, I feel emotionally threatened and, you know, it's bringing

921
00:59:26.600 --> 00:59:27.840
up all of these issues, et cetera.

922
00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:31.000
For whatever, whatever's triggering it, triggering it.

923
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:36.640
And whatever our, um, our foundation is that, that we've, um, that we're

924
00:59:36.640 --> 00:59:40.000
focusing on, we are in a state of unrest.

925
00:59:40.040 --> 00:59:43.360
If we're in a state of unrest, it means again, that we believe that

926
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:45.400
are, that we're in a state of unbelief.

927
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:49.240
And we believe, we don't believe that we are who God says that we are.

928
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:51.600
And okay.

929
00:59:51.680 --> 00:59:58.640
So that, that being said, then that means that remember that we're not in a place

930
00:59:58.640 --> 01:00:00.000
then that we can make a righteous.

931
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:07.760
judgment. We're not in a position where that God has, that is no position that God has given

932
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:14.000
the authority to, to make a judgment call and to speak it out into the earth.

933
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:23.840
Now God has given us the ability to be judges, but here's the only time in which we can be a

934
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:31.120
judge with his authority. And that is if we, because Jesus is in the, is on the judgment

935
01:00:31.120 --> 01:00:35.920
seat, right? Jesus has been given authority over everything. Everything is under his feet,

936
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:40.640
except it says God, the father. So everything is under his feet. He has power and authority

937
01:00:40.640 --> 01:00:46.160
over everything. He's the one that, that God gave the right to judge the earth. Not while

938
01:00:46.160 --> 01:00:50.720
he was on the earth. Remember he said, I didn't come to judge the earth, but once he rose again,

939
01:00:50.720 --> 01:00:56.480
God gave him all power and authority because he on earth, he didn't require God. Jesus didn't

940
01:00:56.480 --> 01:01:03.440
require it. He found what is that verse? And he said, he found, uh, he gave up his, um, oh man,

941
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:08.400
nevermind. I'm not going to quote that quote, the verse, because I'm mixing King James with like,

942
01:01:09.040 --> 01:01:13.520
with like, uh, international, uh, with, uh, American standard version or something.

943
01:01:13.520 --> 01:01:18.560
So anyway, so forget that. But the thing is basically said that I don't have a right to claim

944
01:01:19.200 --> 01:01:26.800
my position that I had in heaven. I give up that right to be down here, right? And once he did that,

945
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:31.840
and once he died, and once he sacrificed everything, God said, and then he died ultimate

946
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:35.840
obedience to the Lord. God said, okay, now that you've done that, I will put you in a seat

947
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:41.680
of power and authority where you now have the right to judge. So that's where God is. So Jesus

948
01:01:41.680 --> 01:01:47.920
has the right to judge and guess where you are. Guess where your spirit is. It is one with Christ.

949
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:53.920
It is seated on that judgment throne. And it's only when you are operating in oneness with Christ,

950
01:01:54.720 --> 01:01:59.520
where you are seeing things from his perspective, where the two of you co-counseling together,

951
01:02:00.720 --> 01:02:05.920
where you reveal, get revealed by the Lord, that you have the right to speak into this situation

952
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:11.600
because you're seeing it now from God's eyes. Now you can judge the situation, but here's the thing.

953
01:02:11.600 --> 01:02:16.080
We have to follow the same process that Jesus followed. And I felt like I'm not doing a really

954
01:02:16.080 --> 01:02:20.080
good job explaining all of this, because again, this is like something I usually take hours worth

955
01:02:20.080 --> 01:02:23.680
to like lay out. And then I'm trying to say it very succinctly, but hopefully it's coming across.

956
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:31.280
And that is the thing that just like what Jesus did, he had to give it up completely

957
01:02:32.080 --> 01:02:39.120
and not require it. And then God said, okay, now I'll give it to you, but I won't give it to you.

958
01:02:39.120 --> 01:02:44.800
If you're clamoring for it, asking it, you know, demanding it, whatever you have to completely

959
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:52.560
die and let it go. You have to let it go. And now that you've let it go, now that you've

960
01:02:52.560 --> 01:02:59.680
emotionally released it, now that you, uh, no longer hold an emotional obligation against it

961
01:02:59.680 --> 01:03:07.280
or emotionally or, or hold a, hold it before the Lord in like accusation, et cetera.

962
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:12.480
How could you have done this? Et cetera, et cetera. Now that you've let it all go, God's like, okay,

963
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:20.800
now I can trust you to make an objective judgment from the eyes and the heart of Christ.

964
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:31.040
Because you have now removed yourself emotionally from the situation. So to speak, I, anyway,

965
01:03:31.040 --> 01:03:36.320
like I said, I usually lay this out a lot, a lot better. There is, um, there's a teaching on it,

966
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:41.440
you know, that'll be coming up that kind of lays a bit more of a foundation, but that's why we're

967
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:50.720
not in a position to judge it from the heart of Christ and from a godly from the spirit. That's

968
01:03:50.720 --> 01:03:56.240
what I'm trying to say down here. The only way that we can judge things is by the law, by the

969
01:03:56.240 --> 01:03:59.600
tree of the knowledge of good and evil, what's right. And what's wrong. And what's the law.

970
01:03:59.600 --> 01:04:06.480
And what are the 10 commandments say? And any non-believer can do that. That's why we all read

971
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:11.520
psychology books and books on relationships. And if those are not speaking about how to do

972
01:04:11.520 --> 01:04:17.520
things in the spirit, all it is that they're teaching people to do is how to approach things

973
01:04:17.520 --> 01:04:23.200
and judge situations and call things out according to the law, according to the knowledge of good and

974
01:04:23.200 --> 01:04:29.200
evil, which by the way, does not have the spirit in it. It has nothing to offer, but death.

975
01:04:30.080 --> 01:04:38.000
So if you want to give life to this situation, you have to let go ever judging it. You have to

976
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:44.960
stop. You have to let go of, of requiring that it should be different than what it is

977
01:04:46.720 --> 01:04:52.080
and just allow it to be. And then it doesn't mean that you're saying that it's right. Again,

978
01:04:52.080 --> 01:04:56.960
that's making a judgment. You can't, you're not saying it's right. You're not saying it's wrong.

979
01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:59.600
You're giving up your right to it.

980
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:05.160
into you emotionally, holding God again, you know, holding it against God or

981
01:05:05.160 --> 01:05:08.080
holding against the other person, even holding against the other person that

982
01:05:08.080 --> 01:05:09.060
by the way, is forgiveness.

983
01:05:09.060 --> 01:05:10.680
All forgiveness is, is letting go.

984
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:12.080
That's all that it is.

985
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:17.200
Um, and which we could talk about that some other times somebody wants to, anyway,

986
01:05:17.820 --> 01:05:22.200
the only way that God will put you in a position from which you can rightly

987
01:05:22.200 --> 01:05:28.920
judge is if you let it go first, if you know, don't require it of God, if you

988
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:33.160
don't, if you release ever having to do it, I've had to do this in very serious

989
01:05:33.160 --> 01:05:36.000
situations, I've been sued in business.

990
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:40.940
Um, not in the rest of this is back when I was doing business, uh, consulting

991
01:05:40.940 --> 01:05:45.200
and stuff like that, and they accused us in laws of stuff that we didn't do.

992
01:05:45.660 --> 01:05:47.800
And they sued us to court.

993
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:49.580
It was horrible on my word.

994
01:05:49.600 --> 01:05:52.800
Even our lawyer was operating against us.

995
01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:55.120
He was in cahoots with the other lawyer we found out.

996
01:05:55.640 --> 01:05:58.120
And the two of them were just trying to get the most money out of the

997
01:05:58.120 --> 01:05:59.280
situation that they could.

998
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:00.080
It was wild.

999
01:06:00.080 --> 01:06:02.120
We saw the underbelly of the court system.

1000
01:06:02.120 --> 01:06:02.760
It was horrible.

1001
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:07.600
And, um, and so what we had to do was we had to completely release it.

1002
01:06:07.600 --> 01:06:12.240
And so God then walked me through a process where I eight years to the day.

1003
01:06:13.300 --> 01:06:18.560
That I left that, that, that I had been, and that I had been

1004
01:06:18.560 --> 01:06:20.040
forced to leave the property.

1005
01:06:20.600 --> 01:06:25.300
I went back to the property and because of the situation, because of the way that

1006
01:06:25.300 --> 01:06:31.780
it had changed, God, uh, had allowed me to literally stand on the spot on the

1007
01:06:31.780 --> 01:06:36.740
spot of the property where they had plotted against us, they plotted all

1008
01:06:36.740 --> 01:06:40.580
those lies and try to plant things against us, et cetera, by the way we,

1009
01:06:40.580 --> 01:06:43.740
um, it was settled out of court when they finally realized that they weren't

1010
01:06:43.740 --> 01:06:47.260
going to win with the lies and that we had enough evidence, you know, that we

1011
01:06:47.260 --> 01:06:48.540
hadn't done what they said that they do.

1012
01:06:48.540 --> 01:06:51.260
And anyway, so it settled all out of court years later, I was still

1013
01:06:51.260 --> 01:06:54.420
traumatized, I was still traumatized driving down the highway, seeing the

1014
01:06:54.420 --> 01:06:59.780
street name because these people who literally were my friends that I spent

1015
01:06:59.780 --> 01:07:03.340
more time with, I would spend like 14 hours a day with these people all day,

1016
01:07:03.420 --> 01:07:05.740
every day, you know, pouring into them, et cetera.

1017
01:07:06.140 --> 01:07:08.300
And then when they turn around and betray you like that, you know, it's

1018
01:07:08.300 --> 01:07:10.220
very, very hurtful, dragged you through the court system.

1019
01:07:10.220 --> 01:07:11.460
It was horrible anyway.

1020
01:07:11.780 --> 01:07:17.700
So I literally got to stand on the place on the, in the place on the, on the

1021
01:07:17.700 --> 01:07:23.300
property, in a place where people had plotted against us and I was able to,

1022
01:07:23.300 --> 01:07:27.700
and the Lord walked me through process where I release, I forgave them by

1023
01:07:27.700 --> 01:07:36.060
releasing them of any obligation to me for an, any, and, um, for what it is

1024
01:07:36.060 --> 01:07:42.060
that they had done, I'd also release them from having to spiritually bear any

1025
01:07:42.060 --> 01:07:44.260
consequences, well, it's not spiritually.

1026
01:07:44.260 --> 01:07:45.140
It's not really what it was.

1027
01:07:45.500 --> 01:07:48.740
It was any, any consequences in business.

1028
01:07:49.460 --> 01:07:54.740
Like I told the Lord, if they are bearing consequences, like say, for instance,

1029
01:07:54.740 --> 01:07:58.340
their business isn't going well, or people are dying, people were dying by

1030
01:07:58.340 --> 01:08:01.660
the way, all of the people who came in my boss's position after we committed

1031
01:08:01.660 --> 01:08:06.820
suicide, it was, it was, it was terrifying.

1032
01:08:06.820 --> 01:08:07.900
The stuff that was going on.

1033
01:08:07.900 --> 01:08:10.780
One of our really good friends committed suicide by a cop.

1034
01:08:11.220 --> 01:08:14.940
And, um, that had been with us at that, at that business, it

1035
01:08:14.940 --> 01:08:17.020
was a horrible spiritual fallout.

1036
01:08:17.260 --> 01:08:20.380
So anyway, I asked God, God, will you now?

1037
01:08:20.819 --> 01:08:23.620
And I felt this from the Lord, which is the only way that I was able to do this.

1038
01:08:23.620 --> 01:08:26.220
Cause you can't do all this on your own because you never know what

1039
01:08:26.220 --> 01:08:27.500
God wants to do in their lives.

1040
01:08:27.500 --> 01:08:27.819
Right?

1041
01:08:28.340 --> 01:08:31.460
So, but I felt what God told me to do is he said, Ashley,

1042
01:08:31.460 --> 01:08:32.500
I want you to release them.

1043
01:08:33.180 --> 01:08:39.020
I'm like, okay, so God, I ask you that neither me nor you nor themselves,

1044
01:08:39.420 --> 01:08:42.779
nor the spirit realm, meaning like Satan or anybody who's trying to come

1045
01:08:42.779 --> 01:08:44.500
against them and use them and whatever.

1046
01:08:44.779 --> 01:08:48.180
None of them can hold their actions towards me against them.

1047
01:08:49.260 --> 01:08:54.220
And that they, that I now Lord asked that any, any resistance to their

1048
01:08:54.220 --> 01:08:56.260
business prospering be removed.

1049
01:08:57.580 --> 01:09:02.100
And so the way that I was able to do that was when I came to a position,

1050
01:09:02.460 --> 01:09:06.580
finally, where I can make a judgment call, ask God, you know, because,

1051
01:09:06.660 --> 01:09:08.020
you know, not a judgment call.

1052
01:09:08.300 --> 01:09:12.020
I could be, I would seated more in the, in the seat of judgment I'd released.

1053
01:09:12.380 --> 01:09:14.460
I just kind of released them in my heart.

1054
01:09:14.540 --> 01:09:14.859
Okay.

1055
01:09:14.939 --> 01:09:17.460
Lord, you know, you know, I released them.

1056
01:09:17.939 --> 01:09:22.060
Then the Lord said, okay, actually now see them through my eyes and through my

1057
01:09:22.060 --> 01:09:26.100
heart and listen to what I want to do in this situation.

1058
01:09:27.060 --> 01:09:31.420
And so sometimes it's like, Hey, Ashley, you know, they, they need to have, um,

1059
01:09:31.460 --> 01:09:33.660
they're going to be bearing spiritual consequences and dah, dah, dah.

1060
01:09:33.660 --> 01:09:35.620
And they had been, my goodness, how many people had died?

1061
01:09:35.620 --> 01:09:35.899
Right.

1062
01:09:36.420 --> 01:09:39.979
But he said, okay, now, Ashley, I want you to release them.

1063
01:09:40.260 --> 01:09:41.380
That is my heart for them.

1064
01:09:41.660 --> 01:09:42.380
It's mercy.

1065
01:09:42.420 --> 01:09:43.500
It's been eight years.

1066
01:09:44.020 --> 01:09:45.140
It's been long enough.

1067
01:09:45.460 --> 01:09:46.420
They've suffered enough.

1068
01:09:46.420 --> 01:09:48.100
There's been enough lives lost.

1069
01:09:48.500 --> 01:09:55.020
I, you are the only one he said that has the authority to release them because

1070
01:09:55.020 --> 01:09:57.540
you are the one that they had come against.

1071
01:09:57.700 --> 01:09:59.980
You are the one that had the right in the.

1072
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:07.600
court system to leave them off the hook or to or to bring prosecution. I'm telling you what my

1073
01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:12.400
heart is for the situation and I'm inviting you to carry it out. Like, yeah, I want to look like

1074
01:10:12.400 --> 01:10:18.560
my father and I release them. But that was their own unique situation. That's not how everything

1075
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:26.160
goes. But you we are all called to release them like by by forgiving them. But how the Lord house

1076
01:10:26.160 --> 01:10:32.160
as then exact judgment, the type of judgment that the Lord then requires to be carried out,

1077
01:10:32.160 --> 01:10:36.640
that he allows us to partner with him. This is not my decision, by the way. This is me counseling

1078
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:40.560
with the Lord. Lord, what's your heart? What do you want me to do in the knee here on earth? I'll

1079
01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:45.680
partner with your desire and I'll actually do it on earth. So I literally went to the place and did

1080
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:50.640
it. But Lord, what do you want me to do? I'm not taking up my, you know, some spiritual authority

1081
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:55.360
like I'm going to make a judgment call. Lord, no, that's not my authority. It's only operating

1082
01:10:55.360 --> 01:10:59.920
in oneness and unity with Christ where I hear Christ's heart. Christ, what is your judgment

1083
01:10:59.920 --> 01:11:06.720
call? And what judgment do you as a righteous judge who judges out of love, not wrath?

1084
01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:12.400
What do you want to do? And I'll care and I'll partner with you and I will carry it out.

1085
01:11:12.400 --> 01:11:17.920
So anyway, but that's a very extreme situation. But the reason I wanted to mention that is when

1086
01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:21.920
I tell you these things, because I don't know what situation you're going through, it might be very

1087
01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:26.320
emotionally traumatic. It might be your mother. I don't know. You haven't told me. I'm just telling

1088
01:11:26.320 --> 01:11:31.120
you, it might be your mother. It might be, you know, it might be, uh, your boyfriend. I don't

1089
01:11:31.120 --> 01:11:36.640
know if you're dating, you know, it could, in other words, someone that actually is the closest

1090
01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:42.560
to your heart that hurts the most. That's my point. And I'm telling you as bad as it feels,

1091
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:48.880
or as hard as it might feel to actually do the thing, then, or it could be like Lindsey's

1092
01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:52.800
situation where Lindsey was telling us in her testimony, you know, I've had these horrible,

1093
01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:58.160
you know, situations with like spiritual leaders in my life. I mean, that's traumatic, you know,

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spiritual leaders. Right. And so I don't know how, how deeply that this is affecting you and

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how close to home. I just wanted to use an extreme example, which is one of many, many, many, many,

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many examples that I could give you an extreme example to let you know what I'm talking about

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as hard as it can feel to do. It's that powerful. It can be applied to any situation because

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releasing this to the Lord will allow the kingdom of heaven to operate in authority in an extremely

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powerful way on earth that nothing can prevail against it. It has higher power than any intense

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power that presents itself on earth. So anyway, really gave you a long story there, but did that

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help? Okay. All right. Um, yes, you cannot make a righteous judgment and unrest. Yes. It's very

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nice. So I need to have Lindsey teach this. Okay. Um, you do, um, okay.

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I'm just sharing what's resonating, what you're saying, like that really stuck. I need to sit

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with that.

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Yeah. But still, you know, you and Ed, you can just like summarize what I say very well. I'm like,

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that's succinct speaking there for me. I'm a verbal processor and you see how I teach is how

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I just, I like see like hundreds of puzzle pieces and I just make, and I make connections. And so

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the way I speak is in such a way is to provide y'all with the, with, um, the opportunity to own

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this for yourself, as opposed to simply just hearing me spout out like principles and ideas

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is because the, the, the concern that I have is that y'all are going to take them like formulas.

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Okay. I've got to remember what Ashley said. No, you don't, you not have to remember what I said.

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You just have to understand the concept enough where, where, um, as you look in the Bible,

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you know, when, as you listen to your spirit, God, you understand when God starts talking to

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you and, you know, in your own spirit, what he's saying so that you can own it for yourself.

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And you don't, and I don't have to have mentioned this particular example in order for you to find

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a completely different scenario that you find yourself in and have to know, oh, my word,

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Ashley didn't mention this example. So I don't know what to do. These things aren't formulas.

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There are ideas and concepts that I want y'all to grasp and own to the point that when you

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experience an, a very unexpected, uh, scenario or experience, you know, how to apply the principles

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that God speaks to your situation because you understand the principle you, it's not a formula

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that you have to know the exact example to plug it into, et cetera. You understand the concept and

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now you can apply it to anything. So basically I do the same thing in the rest intensive that I've

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told my bosses, I'm here to work myself out of a job. I was a process improvement specialist,

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and that was my job to literally work myself out at them ever needing me.

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And so I do the same thing in the rest intensive, I get everything, get it to y'all to the point where y'all can own it for yourselves.

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So, that's why you need to understand it in your own language and your own based on your own background, etc. So, anyway.

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Okay, well I will let y'all go and I will see y'all what is today today's Thursday so I will see y'all on Sunday for another live q amp a then we'll do the rest groups on Tuesdays I think that that's what we'll do.

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And I will.

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Also, I will be opening up all of the teachings in the in y'all pretty caught in the rest intensive members page so remember you go to the enter his read enter his dot rest login make sure to log in because if you don't log if you don't log in you won't

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log into your account. And once you've logged into your account, then you can go to rest intensive program on the top menu, scroll in and look at the drop down and you'll see rest intensive members so if you click on that because you're a rest intensive

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member you'll have access to that page and you have for a lifetime, it's all yours. I will open up all of those teachings because right now if you only click on, you can only click on I think, to, and and they're active.

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I will make them all active you go at your own pace. And, and so, anyway, if you have any questions, you know, we'll be doing live q amp a's etc so in the for those of you who haven't made a second post this week, and just, I would just make it before

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our next live q amp a.

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And Christina see that you've already done it, so you're good until the next q amp a, I realized that I don't like it between Tuesdays and Thursdays it's entirely too fast.

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And, but, so anyway, just to post week so just do one between now and Sunday, and, and remember the whole point of that is to help y'all to force you to stop and articulate for yourself.

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And I promise you, it will help you shift faster and more effectively the more that you invest into those times are really thinking about what's going on invulnerably expressing it.

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I promise you from experience of walking many many many many many people through this, that it will really really help so you're investing in yourself you're not giving something to me.

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You're just investing yourself so anyway, if y'all have any questions, let me know, and I'll see you later. Bye.