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Hey, everybody, by the way, if it's any encouragement, you know, like I said, the reason I is I teach

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this is not only because I have, I have done this is this is how I live.

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So this isn't a threshold that we cross.

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This is a lifestyle that we choose a lot of where we choose, okay, I'm going to live in

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the power of the gospel through what God calls sonship in relationship with him.

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And it's learning how to now live life through that way, as opposed to the way that we've

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been living or the way that we're tempted, that we've been tempted to live or whatever,

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making sure everybody's in.

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And so meaning that one of the things that keeps me, what would you, what would you call

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that kind of not not up to date, not fresh, I can't think of the word, but basically,

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what keeps these things more at the forefront of my mind, you know, to be able to help other

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people and be able to relate to other people is because that's still where I am in certain

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areas of my life.

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So I've been struggling very, very much the past few days.

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And in the middle of all of that, you know, that I have to, I have to remember who it

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is that I am and how to operate from that place instead of out of my soul, etc.

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And then Thursday, I had a four hour transformation session, solid four hours.

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And then, and then of course, you know, I've, I've had, we had, you know, the fireside chat

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that night.

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And, and then I would, I worked until I don't know how late that morning.

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I mean, that night.

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Oh, no, no, no.

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I had a phone call with someone afterwards.

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That's right.

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I was like, I felt like I had a late night, but why it was, it was a phone call with someone

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I needed help.

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So I called a friend and it's like, I just need somebody to talk to.

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Can I be listened to this time?

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So they did that for me, which I really appreciate it.

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But then the next few days have been very challenging, including to today.

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And yesterday I had a five hour transformation session.

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So solid.

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And then I had, and I didn't have anything to eat.

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So I woke up, went to the transformation session.

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It was in with an in-person, in-person transformation session.

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So I didn't have anything to eat and, and was just in it for like five hours solid.

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So I didn't eat until like four or four 30 that day.

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So low blood sugar and, and and so you're just hitting these limits where your soul

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and your body are reaching only have so much capacity and we're learning how to operate

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out of our spirit, not so much out of our soul so that we don't get as tired so that

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we're pulling on the Lord's strength, that we're doing things in rest and not considering

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ourselves to be, you know, the, um, relying on ourselves to generate the outcome.

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And so it all sounds great.

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We can all say in theory, and we can all believe it, including me, but then, you know, boots

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hit the ground.

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And what do you really do?

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What do you really believe?

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And to what extent do you believe that, you know, how far does it quote unquote carry

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me?

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Like, how long am I believing it and how much of I believing it to what depth and then when

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am I hitting a limit?

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And then, and then I start pulling on my solar, my body.

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And so I started reaching that because there was even more than what I'm telling you here

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of like the transformation sessions.

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Those were just some big things that happened.

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There were other big things that happened, emotional things that are like pulling on

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old wounds and, and, um, or, uh, getting me, you know, thinking about like the future and

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trying to position things now for that future and just, it's just a lot.

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So I was reaching some, some, um, limits for myself.

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And, um, so anyway, uh, I definitely, uh, feel and understand everything that all of

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y'all have been going through the past few days as well.

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I'm really sorry.

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It hit all of us, including me, we're all in the same community.

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And so, um, uh, apparently it just kind of hit all of us at the same time.

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So I'm sorry.

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I haven't been able to get back to some of y'all, um, we know I've been posting the past

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couple of days.

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Um, I promise I read them.

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So I just needed enough of, uh, I just wanted to be able to have some, uh, some really good

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time to be able to, um, by time, meaning like, you know, focus to be able to give y'all what

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it is that, um, that you deserve to receive from me.

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And so finally it just kind of got it to the wire and I was like, okay, well, we'll talk

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about it all on, on here.

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So, um, so let's see, seriously.

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Oh, thank you, Lindsay.

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I appreciate it.

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I know it, it does kind of take time.

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And that is something that's always on my heart is because I've always, I've received

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lots of, um, uh, like, uh, fluffy answers over the years.

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And I realized that those didn't help me, those didn't help me grow.

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And I hear a lot of fluffy answers, even, even these days.

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And I'm just like, that's just not helpful.

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And so I really.

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have, it's really something I've sought with the Lord is Lord helped me provide and speak

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out of, um, out of a place that gives someone substance, something that they can actually

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grab ahold of, not a, not a theory, not an idea or not, wouldn't this be nice if, but

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something that can actually grab ahold of.

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So y'all are really sweet to be patient with me as I do my best to articulate things so

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that you can actually practically step out in it.

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And, um, uh, so, and then if y'all don't understand something, in other words, it's, it sounds

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like a concept that, oh, well maybe sort of, I kind of logically get that, but you don't

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know how to grab it to actually do something with it in your life.

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Um, just, just let me know.

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That's what all these questions are so that I can like circle back around and think, okay,

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well maybe what's a different way to approach it that would make sense in your background,

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your world, et cetera.

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Um, I get to know you still have some rough days.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah, I definitely do.

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I'm, I'm human.

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Jesus had rough days up until the day you died.

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So we all have tough days.

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It's just part of the human experience.

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Um, okay.

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And so God wanted to show, oh, so I'm just now seeing Christine posted a few minutes

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ago and she said, like others of you, this has been a tough week for me.

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Just when I thought things were getting better, they got worse.

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I'm sorry, Christine, I know we are all in this together and I'm in there with you.

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All right.

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So, um, I wanted to look at before we, um, uh, before we, I opened the floor for any

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questions.

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I wanted to address the questions that I have yet have yet to address in the community.

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Let me get there.

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So I want to make sure all of that is addressed and let me go.

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Okay.

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The very first one that I remember, like chronologically, is this chronological?

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No it's not.

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Maybe it's this one.

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No, no.

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I think I've already answered that one.

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Sorry.

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Let me, yeah, I've already answered that one.

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Okay.

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So let me go.

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So the first one chronologically that I can find is, y'all can correct me if I'm wrong.

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If there's a question that y'all have asked, once I finally get through these that I have

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not addressed, you feel free to let me know, um, and, uh, that I've just accidentally missed

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it.

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So, okay.

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So, uh, Cicely was talking about the, the, um, video that I posted three days ago about

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how to go through pain.

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She said, this is something that's confusing to me.

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You said there that God caused the pain, but these are opportunities that he invites us

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into to overcome the struggle and pain.

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So that kind of feels like to me that he does cause the pain or it's, and then she asked,

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or is it our beliefs that caused the pain?

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So Cicely, I'm sorry to ask, yeah, there you are.

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Um, would you mind clarifying the question for me?

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You said that I said that God causes the pain, so he doesn't cause pain.

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So I don't know what it is that I said that sounded like it, uh, before I answer this,

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which I can answer from what you've, what you posted.

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Is there any way that you could maybe give me a little clarification?

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I was supposed to say, doesn't cause the pain.

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You said there that God doesn't cause the pain.

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Oh, but these are opportunities that invites us.

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Now I understand.

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Man, if I was like, yeah, that's probably, I need to go back and say, yeah, I could have

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typed it wrong.

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So I was going to say, just like you can type it wrong.

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I could say it wrong.

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So there's typos, but then there's like verbal O's or it's not a word, but we'll go with it

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today.

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Thanks for, for clarifying.

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So that kind of feels like to me that he does cause the pain.

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Oh, because there's opportunities.

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He invites us into, okay.

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So what, what's, what's happened is God is, um, okay.

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This is, um, what would you call it?

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It's very similar to Roman seven.

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So I would recommend that y'all read Roman seven, because Roman seven talks about the

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fact that the law is holy.

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And, um, and so this is like, this is like foundation or background or context for me

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answering this question.

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So it says that the law is holy and that's how we know that the tree of the knowledge

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of good and evil was a holy tree.

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In other words, God only creates good things, even though it says in Roman seven, that the

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fact, let me just read part of it because otherwise the way Paul goes into such depth

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to explain this, that if I try to summarize it, it's going to make it sound different

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than he really meant it.

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Even he had to explain it from multiple perspectives in order to make sure that what he was saying

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was crystal clear.

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So I learned from Paul, you really have to be careful with this.

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Okay, so what shall we say then?

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Do I need to go further back?

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Belong to him, forever in the realm,

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the simple path to the realm of God.

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Okay, well, let me go further back.

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I don't know if I need to go all the way back.

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Okay, so let's go to Romans 7, 4.

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So my brothers and sisters,

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you also died to the law through the body of Christ

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that you might belong to another.

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To him who was raised from the dead

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in order that we might bear fruit for God.

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Four, when we were in the realm of the flesh,

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the sinful, which is, you know, the soul and the body,

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the sinful passions aroused by the law

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were at work in us so that we bore fruit for death.

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Remember that we were talking on Thursday

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when Liberty asked the question, you know,

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about good and bad fruit,

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and then I was explaining that even though

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it's from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,

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and we pick to do something good,

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it still has evil in it because it says that,

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so in other words, it just follows that same logic

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that when that, where is it?

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So that, so the simple passions aroused by the law

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were at work in us so that we bore fruit for death

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because that's what happens in us

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when we interact with the law.

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That's the problem.

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And that's what, that's the,

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that's specifically what Paul is trying

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to get us to understand is that it doesn't make,

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just because bad things, in other words,

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negative things happen to us when we interact with the law,

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doesn't make the law bad or the thing that caused the death.

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It says by now, but now by dying to what once bound us,

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we've been released from the law, blah, blah, blah.

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Okay, what shall we say?

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Okay, so verse seven.

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What shall we say then?

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Is the law sinful?

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Certainly not.

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Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was

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had it not been for the law,

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for I would not have known what coveting really was

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if the law had not said, you shall not covet.

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But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment

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produced in me every kind of coveting.

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For apart from the law, sin was dead, blah, blah, blah.

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Sorry, I'm trying to get through this really quickly

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because we've got lots to talk about.

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So once I was alive, okay.

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Once I was alive, this is verse nine.

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Once I was alive apart from the law,

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but when the commandment came,

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sin sprang to life and I died.

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I found that the very commandment

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that was intended to bring life actually brought death.

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For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded

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by the commandment deceived me

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and through the commandment put me to death.

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So then the law is holy

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and the commandment is holy, righteous and good

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because what we can do is we can think that,

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okay, well, I have this thing

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and why does God require this quote unquote thing of me?

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Does that mean then that the fact that this,

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that I now have to do this thing,

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that the fact that me doing something different

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is now wrong and it's now bad.

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And therefore we think that this thing therefore is bad

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because its existence made this thing bad.

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we have to remember that the law is actually holy.

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that this is talking about the law, not talking about God.

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just like Paul is explaining here

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that in our interaction with the law,

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it triggers something that's already in us

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and it triggers death within us,

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but the law is not creating death.

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there's something in us

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that when we come in proximity with the law,

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because there was some command or whatever,

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there's something within us that rises up and causes death,

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but it doesn't say something bad about the law.

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and then, or the Lord, you know, I don't know,

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allows certain things to happen.

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that's of flesh and not of him,

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doesn't make him the one that caused it,

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doesn't make him bad or him the one causing the pain

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or whatever.

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So it's the same.

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My point is it's the same principle.

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of how Paul explains it.

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did that which is good, the law,

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that which is good then become death to me?

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Nevertheless, in order that sin might be recognized,

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Now it's just sin.

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It used what is good to bring about my death so that through the commandment,

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sin might become utterly sinful.

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Um, understand.

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do, I do not do, but what I hate to do.

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good.

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And that's where he has that whole play on words of like, why do I not, why do I do

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what I don't want to do?

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And don't do what I want to do.

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Um, let's see here.

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It is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me.

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Remember in spirit, this is backwards, man.

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Is this backwards for y'all?

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Nope.

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It was backwards for me.

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So, so just like it says, it is no longer I myself who do it.

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It used to be, but now it's no longer I who do it, but the sin living in me.

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no longer you that is sinning.

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It's no longer you.

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That's the problem.

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It's the sin that's living in you.

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So even, so Paul is trying to get us to, to, um, differentiate it.

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That is my sinful nature, meaning in the flesh.

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Um, so maybe that will is good enough for now.

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I felt that there was something else though.

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Um, uh, well, maybe not.

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I think that that'll be good for now.

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So, um, and now I need to go back to, to the question.

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So it feels to me that, yeah, that God does cause the pain.

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So he is, what happens is there are things that happen.

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Let's, let's make an example.

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Sometimes God will bring something to us and he's in, and a

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circumstance, a situation that he invites us to do and we're like, but

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God, I don't want to leave where I am.

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So why, Lord, why are you creating this problem for me?

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You know, you're, I, it, you bringing in this thing that you now want me to

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do this decision that you said that you now want me to make or whatever.

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Lord, I don't want to do that.

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I don't want to live like that.

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I don't want to whatever.

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Lord, why are you causing me pain?

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And he's like, well, I'm not my presentation of this and your

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interaction with that, my presentation brought forth some kind of a pain,

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some aspect of you that didn't, which is your flesh that does that

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is warring against the spirit.

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But it doesn't mean that God is causing us pain because remember, okay.

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And this is what I need to go all the way back to remember what pain is.

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Pain is the fact that your flesh is warring against your spirit.

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So that which is unified, in other words, a house, you know, divided

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against itself, cannot stand.

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That's what pain is.

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Pain is simply your flesh warring against your spirit.

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That's when we experience pain.

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So God doesn't cause our pain because pain exists when the flesh

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is warring against the spirit.

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So God is just himself.

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God is just spirit.

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God's just himself.

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And he's presenting himself like this.

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And then, then the aspects of ourself that are in unbelief is coming against it.

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And is in, is, um, is, uh, oh man, may the Lord please help me with my

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vocabulary and articulation it's when it's coming in, um, and, oh man, why

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can't I think of my words lately?

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This is very aggravating, but basically where it's coming against the spirit

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and it's telling this and it's telling the spirit, no, I'm in disagreement.

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Then your spirit, your soul, and body you're one being that

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you're supposed to be unified.

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You're supposed to be aligned with yourself.

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So obviously it's going to create pain.

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If you're warring against yourself, you're not even

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worrying against someone else.

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There's aspects of yourself that are fighting itself

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first towards self-destruction.

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That's not natural.

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That is not normal.

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That is not the way that God created it.

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In other words, that's what I'm saying.

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Yes, it's a very normal, natural experience.

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Unfortunately due to the fall.

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My point is that is not normal and natural according

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to God's original intention.

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So obviously that war that's pain.

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God doesn't cause pain.

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Pain is caused when there is something that already exists within us

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that is in opposition to thank you, Lord.

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That was the word I was looking for.

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It's an opposition to the spirit.

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If there's no opposition, there's no pain because you're all in alignment.

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body are in complete agreement that your soul and your body are agreeing with your spirit.

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And therefore there's no struggle. There's no war. There's no divide between bodies. So imagine

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like the person on the rack, you know, back when they used to torment people by putting them on

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the rack and then they would, and then they would pull that they would literally pull the person

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apart. It's that kind of an idea in spirit, soul, and body. It's this war, this separation, this,

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this resistance of the soul to the spirit of just in this pushing away and like trying to get away

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from it, that creates the pain and the struggle. And so God doesn't create it. And we don't blame

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ourselves for it either because meaning like, Oh my goodness, aren't I bad? I'm the one causing

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this. No, no, no. This is what we're doing here. We are overcoming that disagreement. We are over

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to get all three parts of ourselves to finally come into agreement. One part of us is already

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in agreement with the Lord. That one's good. We got one day on due to go. Okay. We're great. Okay.

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We're bringing the rest of them into alignment. That's what that is. Jesus experienced pain.

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Pain isn't to be avoided. Another thing that is kind of like a segue into some of the,

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into the answer of some of these other questions is, and I've already said it, but I'll repeat it.

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Is that, uh, pain is not, it is not about, it's not about trying to avoid pain.

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It's about how we go through it. That is what we're doing. That is how we overcome. You can't

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avoid something. Sorry. You can't overcome something that you don't face. You can't

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overcome something that you've never, that you don't experience. You can't overcome something

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that you don't make, that you don't get to that, that you don't experience and then make a

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different type of a choice. We have to be presented with it and then make a higher choice than that,

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that will overpower it. And that's why Christ had to go through what he went through. That's what,

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by the way, that's how he, that's why he had to die. You know how he said how he died and now we

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don't have to, I mean, does anybody else ever wonder growing up? Well, why did you have to die

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then? You know? I mean, because if he came to overcome death, wouldn't overcoming death be,

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you are the only one who finally proves to everybody that you don't die. But no, no. Why

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did Jesus have to die? He had to do it because he had to go through it. You can't overcome something

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you don't go through. He literally had to go through it. You can't come to it and avoid it.

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You literally have to go through the thing. That is literally the only way that you can overcome

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it because you have to go through it and overpower it. So the way that Jesus overcame death was not

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by being confronted with it and avoiding it, but by going through it and not being changed. Why?

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Because he was resurrected. Death didn't have the last say because remember what death is,

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is death is lack. Death is you have, and now you have not existed. Now you don't or whatever.

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It's lack. It's have, and now you don't have. So he had to, in order to conquer death,

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the sting of death, in order to remove the sting of death, he had to remove lack from death,

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meaning that you go through death and except for Jesus on the other side, there was no lack.

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He resurrected. That is how you overcome death. That is how you overcome every single other

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aspect of death that we go through, which are all of these decisions that we're trying to make,

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all of these internal emotional struggles or spiritual struggles that we're trying to have.

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I mean, that we're, that we're having and we're trying to, um, that we're trying to go through,

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you have to go through it and make the higher choice. That is the only way you can prove

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to the spirit realm and to creation that what God says is true by avoiding it. It doesn't prove

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anything. You have to go through it and come in and come into that higher agreement. That is the

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only thing that will prove to it that it doesn't have power because it's used to you going through

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it and it conquering. You have to go through it without being conquered. That is overcoming.

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So anyway, that's why Jesus had to die. And so that's what all this pain is. God doesn't cause

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the pain. The pain is the fact that there's that aspect of the flesh that subject to death is in

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an opposition to the Lord is an opposition to the spirit, and it has to be brought into alignment.

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And so that, that unalignment, that disalignment is, um, uh, is a pain. So is that, is that helpful?

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Yes, that is very helpful.

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So is it a thing where like, if you don't overcome it, you get to do it again, you know what I mean like, if you keep, if you keep coming to the same roadblock, and you're not living from a place of overcoming is it just kind of a thing where we'll

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keep cycling.

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Sort of it in the fact I don't.

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I do believe that there is a point in which, if we say no, that God finally stops that part was like find that if you you have a free will you're making a free will decision if you say no.

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Okay, no. Now I don't mean that he gives us like one chance at that there's a particular way in our intention where we flat out tell God, no.

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And we refuse. And I don't mean that we've like literally said it, we may not be aware that we've said it but there's something in us that absolutely definitively resist not kind of like Oh Lord, I don't want to do this, this is hard.

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There is an absolute resistance of know, sometimes we do that thinking that we're doing the godly thing but anyway that's, and that's a discussion for another time.

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Point is that, generally speaking, yes, because, you know, keeping our heart, you know supple before the Lord. Okay, Lord, you know he will he can keep bringing things back around again.

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But that is simply remember an invitation to move into more love and freedom. It's not a, hey, you know, you need to win the battle you need to, you need to, you know, you're one of my soldiers and one of my minions and you just need to go do this.

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And so for us as our as kings I mean yes we're soldiers for the cry for Christ etc but it's from the perspective that we're kings coming into.

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We're not conquering our kingdom it already is our kingdom. We're just, we're just, and we're finally acting as kings work, we're proving by our sacrifice for creation for our soul for our body for the rest of creation, that we really do mean it when

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we say Lord protect provide for it, you know, etc. And so yeah we we do have those times where the Lord will will bring it back around, but that is because they're invitations into more love and freedom.

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Lord to the point where we flat out say no.

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That had, I have done that I'm trying to think I've done it to the Lord once or a few times, and trust me when you've done it you know you know you've done there's something totally different about it yes I repented Yes, you know, everything was undone

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man, there was something very very different in it. It wasn't a, it wasn't a child's tantrum, that was an adult, making a free will decision and I told him no, because I don't remember what it was I think I was probably going through a horrible deep

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deep dark valley, and I just didn't have anything left and I didn't know what's going on and I was just like weary, and I just like Lord, just know, and inside when I, when I felt him shift of like, Oh my word I've done it.

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I could, I could tell it's like I did. Okay, God I repent. I'm so sorry I don't understand. I'm tired, I'm hurt. I'm mad at you, but I don't say no.

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He sometimes will just sometimes will just have me keep going through it and other times would be like, he'll, there was been one time where he where he removed the pressure from me for a while for us to not address it for a while.

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And then when I was revived when I had more strength back kind of like Elijah when he was going when he was running from Jezebel and he was in God took him you know to Mount Sinai on the journey there he went to sleep, just fondant of his life and just

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kill me now went to sleep. And then the Lord woke him up with an angel, giving him food and water and the angel said, rise up, eat and drink, because the journey is too much for you.

455
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:08.000
Sometimes God knows when it's just too much.

456
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:19.000
And so he'll remove the pressure, the pressure of like that overcoming aspect of it. And then so he just said, I just, you know, so just focus on me right now.

457
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:34.000
Focus on me focus that you're okay focus that I am I am who I said that I am etc etc. And then we'll just revisit this later. So, but yeah, so we do revisit it but again it's when it's when we postured ourselves, generally before the Lord of like

458
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:50.000
I really do want to move into more love and freedom. So it's always a it's always a gift from God, he does that it's not him being hard on us or having us pass some kind of a test, because, and I think that I explained that in the video that all of these

459
00:29:50.000 --> 00:30:00.000
these things the pain and the struggles are all God's invitations to us to shift until more love and freedom. It doesn't mean that he always prompts all the situations and that's another

460
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.680
scenario that I wanted to run through real quick, say for instance, if there's a car crash or

461
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.440
whatever, does it mean that God caused the car crash or God allowed the car crash or whatever

462
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:13.440
we want to say? Sometimes those things happen because there's the result of, uh, because

463
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:20.640
creation is, uh, is, um, acting based off of the fact that for thousands of years, billions of

464
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:28.800
human beings in their souls have not believed God. And so they, so creation thinks that it's in

465
00:30:28.800 --> 00:30:34.880
chaos. So creation acts like it's in chaos and bad things happen that you didn't do and that

466
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:39.680
you didn't cause your decisions and your posture before the Lord didn't cause, you know, a car

467
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:47.200
crash. And so it's because we exist in a world in which, you know, creation and flesh is subject to

468
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:52.000
corruption. Bad things are happening because creation thinks that, that this, because the

469
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.600
sons of God haven't don't know who they are yet and they haven't manifested themselves.

470
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And so, and we're all telling it human beings and human souls are telling creation, well,

471
00:31:01.840 --> 00:31:07.280
God can't be trusted. So bad things are happening. Everything's in chaos. Nothing's in order.

472
00:31:07.280 --> 00:31:10.400
Well, I don't mean nothing. I'm just trying to make a point here. You know, things aren't in

473
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order. So you can have things like car crashes, et cetera. Now I'm just using that as an example.

474
00:31:15.520 --> 00:31:21.120
And so, well, God didn't cause the car crash, but the fact that the car crash happened

475
00:31:21.120 --> 00:31:26.000
created pain. I don't just mean physical pain, but physical pain in your body,

476
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.560
emotional pain in your soul, you know, questions of God, who are you? You know,

477
00:31:30.560 --> 00:31:37.280
but those are all unbeliefs that we already have that the situation prompted to rise.

478
00:31:38.320 --> 00:31:43.760
And that pain is simply that unbelief warring against belief that our three

479
00:31:43.760 --> 00:31:48.160
aspects of ourselves aren't fully aligned in agreement on something. So it creates pain.

480
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:59.360
By the way, since we're, since we're on you, was there something in the video that you,

481
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or something, you know, that you were going through today? That was some,

482
00:32:03.040 --> 00:32:08.240
your video was one that I hadn't, you know, responded to yet. Was there something in there

483
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:12.400
that I haven't addressed with everything it is that I said? Because I know that there's

484
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:18.880
generally a theme of just that, of that answer, but I mean, a questions that that would have

485
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:24.640
answered that was there anything else in that video today that I hadn't addressed?

486
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:25.600
I don't actually remember.

487
00:32:26.800 --> 00:32:29.520
That's all right. Maybe you were just verbally processing.

488
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:37.120
I don't remember what my video, I don't remember at this moment. I don't remember what I said.

489
00:32:39.360 --> 00:32:45.280
I think, yeah, it's probably along a lot of the same lines of just the journey and

490
00:32:45.760 --> 00:32:51.280
pain and overcoming that and that kind of thing.

491
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:57.200
Yeah. Okay. And I think that you'd asked something about, oh yes. Now I remember

492
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:05.040
something that you did ask. You asked about the choice and let's see here. You asked about the

493
00:33:05.040 --> 00:33:17.200
choice that well, if you, you were wondering that if maybe giving up, oh, how did you word it

494
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.040
though? Wanted to word it the way that you did. So I could answer your question best,

495
00:33:21.040 --> 00:33:24.720
but basically you were saying, you know, all of these things that you're wanting for your life,

496
00:33:25.600 --> 00:33:33.440
you were wondering is choosing God, meaning giving up those things ever happening. And is

497
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:38.480
that what you need to do? Is that what you were asking? Does that sound familiar? You were, you

498
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:46.880
were kind of like verbally processing. If you needed to give up your, you didn't say you're

499
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:53.280
right, but giving up the possibility, so to speak in front of, to the Lord of those things ever

500
00:33:53.280 --> 00:33:58.560
happening. And that that is actually choosing him. And he, you were wondering if that's what was

501
00:33:58.560 --> 00:34:06.720
required. Is that true? Did I understand? Okay. All right. So, um, the answer is yes.

502
00:34:08.560 --> 00:34:16.080
So that that's exactly it. But let me, let me explain when you were giving something up your,

503
00:34:16.080 --> 00:34:20.159
when you were, in other words, when you're letting it go, you're not giving up on it.

504
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:24.639
In other words, you're not giving up hope. Hope is a wonderful thing. You remember faith, hope,

505
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:29.520
and love these, you know, you know, the remain these three, but the greatest things is love,

506
00:34:29.520 --> 00:34:35.760
but still means that hope is good. Hope is still great. It's just that love is greater. Right.

507
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:41.280
But so hope is a good thing. And God and it, and hope means that in a manner of speaking,

508
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:45.199
that we're having faith in God about something because faith is the substance of things hoped

509
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:49.760
for. And so that's a good thing because it says without faith, it's impossible to please the Lord.

510
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:55.760
So it's really good to hope for things. We need to want them. If we don't want them,

511
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we can't submit them to God. So submitting them to God.

512
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.240
but does not mean that we don't want them anymore.

513
00:35:03.240 --> 00:35:05.280
And it's not bad to want.

514
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.040
God just says, want me more,

515
00:35:08.040 --> 00:35:11.800
want me to the point where you give it up, so to speak.

516
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:13.920
It doesn't mean that you actually have to let it go

517
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:15.000
as if you don't want it.

518
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:18.560
What I mean is like, it's what Abraham did with Isaac.

519
00:35:18.560 --> 00:35:23.560
He took Isaac to the altar and he actually released it,

520
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:26.600
released him, let him go.

521
00:35:26.600 --> 00:35:29.000
It was giving him fully to the Lord.

522
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And the reason that God didn't require that Isaac die

523
00:35:32.560 --> 00:35:37.560
is because Abraham in his heart was letting him go to die.

524
00:35:38.080 --> 00:35:40.680
And all that God needed was Abraham's intention.

525
00:35:40.680 --> 00:35:42.640
That was where all the power was.

526
00:35:42.640 --> 00:35:44.840
It wasn't in whether or not Isaac died.

527
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:47.680
So that's why God didn't require that.

528
00:35:47.680 --> 00:35:52.680
But anyway, so it's actually just choosing

529
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.680
that God is the higher priority.

530
00:35:55.720 --> 00:35:59.120
We can say that God is our prior priority

531
00:35:59.120 --> 00:36:01.600
over anything else while we want.

532
00:36:01.600 --> 00:36:05.160
But if we are taking these other things,

533
00:36:05.160 --> 00:36:09.040
like say for instance, let's have this be the thing

534
00:36:09.040 --> 00:36:11.360
that's important to us, whatever this is.

535
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:13.960
So this hope, this dream, this desire,

536
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.640
or something we already have, whatever it is.

537
00:36:16.640 --> 00:36:19.640
And if God is just, what God wants us to do

538
00:36:19.640 --> 00:36:23.720
is choose him more than this.

539
00:36:23.720 --> 00:36:27.240
And if we are using this and we can say, like I said,

540
00:36:27.240 --> 00:36:29.440
all we want that, oh God, I love you more.

541
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.240
And you're my higher priority.

542
00:36:31.240 --> 00:36:35.240
And if you were to ask me to give this up for you,

543
00:36:35.240 --> 00:36:36.480
I would do that.

544
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.720
And God's like, that's what I'm asking you to do now.

545
00:36:39.720 --> 00:36:43.280
And here's how you know that this is more important

546
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.040
than God to you is if you use this

547
00:36:46.040 --> 00:36:49.280
in accusation against him, that's the problem.

548
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:53.600
And that's what God's very aware of is God, why not?

549
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:56.320
Why can't I have this?

550
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:57.680
Why can't I keep this?

551
00:36:57.680 --> 00:36:59.920
Why haven't you done this?

552
00:36:59.920 --> 00:37:01.720
Why are you having me give it up?

553
00:37:01.720 --> 00:37:04.040
Don't you love me?

554
00:37:04.040 --> 00:37:05.960
Don't you care about me?

555
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.280
Don't you remember me?

556
00:37:08.560 --> 00:37:10.600
Why don't I feel you?

557
00:37:10.600 --> 00:37:11.840
Why haven't you left me?

558
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:15.080
Why have all of those are accusations.

559
00:37:15.080 --> 00:37:19.040
Even if we don't feel inside that we're mad

560
00:37:19.040 --> 00:37:21.360
or sad or whatever,

561
00:37:21.560 --> 00:37:23.440
sometimes it goes a lot deeper

562
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:26.680
than our feelings are indicating to us at the time.

563
00:37:26.680 --> 00:37:29.040
Because remember, feelings are simply indicating something

564
00:37:29.040 --> 00:37:30.680
that's actually already there.

565
00:37:30.680 --> 00:37:32.240
But remember that the feelings,

566
00:37:32.240 --> 00:37:34.080
we only feel the feelings sometimes.

567
00:37:35.080 --> 00:37:36.040
And so that's why I said,

568
00:37:36.040 --> 00:37:37.640
hey, don't be afraid of your negative feelings.

569
00:37:37.640 --> 00:37:39.520
It means that then something has been prompted

570
00:37:39.520 --> 00:37:41.880
to finally come out for you to finally feel it.

571
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:44.800
But it doesn't, just because you don't feel it

572
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:46.000
doesn't mean it's not there.

573
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:49.520
So anyway, if we're using this in accusation,

574
00:37:49.520 --> 00:37:54.520
what would God ask me to do if I were to choose him?

575
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:57.240
Would he ask me to give this up?

576
00:37:57.240 --> 00:37:58.720
I don't know about that.

577
00:37:58.720 --> 00:38:03.560
That struggle, that is an indication

578
00:38:03.560 --> 00:38:06.480
that in our flesh, we've got accusation.

579
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.640
That in our flesh, this is of higher priority.

580
00:38:09.640 --> 00:38:12.960
And God's saying, I need you to make me higher priority

581
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:17.960
where you release me of being accountable

582
00:38:20.240 --> 00:38:24.680
to you being accountable for this happening

583
00:38:24.680 --> 00:38:26.560
in your life at all.

584
00:38:26.560 --> 00:38:28.640
So release me from the accountability,

585
00:38:28.640 --> 00:38:31.120
no longer hold me accountable for this,

586
00:38:31.120 --> 00:38:35.280
no longer use this in accusation against me.

587
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.960
And so that's what it is that God is wanting.

588
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.400
It's not, he's not saying, hey, I'm not gonna do this.

589
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.480
He hasn't, you know, it's just that he's like,

590
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:49.000
I want you to choose me over this

591
00:38:50.080 --> 00:38:52.960
because we can only choose this or God.

592
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:54.640
And so if we choose this in our life

593
00:38:54.640 --> 00:38:57.040
and we choose this control and we choose this outcome

594
00:38:57.040 --> 00:39:00.920
or whatever, it means that we're choosing it over God.

595
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:03.200
So, but we have to release it to God

596
00:39:03.200 --> 00:39:05.240
in order for God to finally have it

597
00:39:05.240 --> 00:39:08.000
and to do something with it, for God to be in control,

598
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.280
you know, for God to even fix the problem,

599
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:13.560
for God to even tell us what to do and give us clarity.

600
00:39:13.560 --> 00:39:14.960
If we've been wondering, well,

601
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:16.760
I would like to know an answer to something, Lord,

602
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:19.280
or whatever, we have to let it go first

603
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:23.160
and because he wants to be chosen before it.

604
00:39:23.160 --> 00:39:25.160
And look what happened with Abraham and Isaac.

605
00:39:25.160 --> 00:39:28.160
And this is classic example of how God deals with us

606
00:39:28.160 --> 00:39:30.440
is just like he did with Jesus

607
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.200
is once the thing is given up,

608
00:39:33.200 --> 00:39:35.680
Isaac was given up by Abraham,

609
00:39:35.680 --> 00:39:38.360
Jesus died, you know, all of those things.

610
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.720
Then God said, okay, now that you've given it up,

611
00:39:40.720 --> 00:39:42.960
now that you've released it completely to me

612
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.720
and you've let go of it and you've chosen me,

613
00:39:45.720 --> 00:39:47.600
now I can supply.

614
00:39:47.600 --> 00:39:50.000
And so Jesus, of course, after he,

615
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.760
since he released his right to any power and authority

616
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:54.560
and he completely died in full submission

617
00:39:54.560 --> 00:39:56.000
and obedience to the father,

618
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.560
he was put in a position of power and authority

619
00:39:58.560 --> 00:39:59.880
because he'd given it up.

620
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.440
And then the same thing with, um, and the same thing with Abraham is once he

621
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:06.560
submitted Isaac, the Ram was provided.

622
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:11.660
So, uh, but it has to be once we've like, we've gotten it, given it up.

623
00:40:11.660 --> 00:40:16.920
So you're, you're musing, you know, about, Oh, I wonder, you know, does it

624
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:19.840
mean that we have to give that up of ever happening?

625
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:27.220
Yes, because with that, we're, when we finally give it, give up it ever

626
00:40:27.220 --> 00:40:29.060
happening, we're not bullied.

627
00:40:29.060 --> 00:40:31.780
We're not no longer believing it'll ever happen.

628
00:40:32.160 --> 00:40:36.260
It's just that we're releasing God of holding God hostage.

629
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:41.260
In our relationship to it ever happened or to, to it happening, or, you

630
00:40:41.260 --> 00:40:45.420
know, to have this particular outcome, we're releasing him from being

631
00:40:45.420 --> 00:40:48.040
accountable to us for it happening.

632
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:50.140
And so I had to choose God.

633
00:40:50.140 --> 00:40:52.040
I no longer hold you accountable for that.

634
00:40:52.040 --> 00:40:55.260
And so when I, you know, told the Lord, Hey God, you know, I choose you over my

635
00:40:55.260 --> 00:41:00.620
lifestyle, I told, I was telling him, Lord, I, I no longer hold you

636
00:41:00.620 --> 00:41:06.260
accountable to give me X, Y, and Z anymore.

637
00:41:06.900 --> 00:41:11.260
So not only, you know, um, I mean, like I released you from it completely,

638
00:41:11.260 --> 00:41:14.460
not like, Oh, well, God, you know, I'm asking you for this, but you know,

639
00:41:14.460 --> 00:41:17.860
if you say no, well then I guess that'll just be no, and it'll just happen.

640
00:41:17.860 --> 00:41:19.620
And I'll just kind of like watch it happen.

641
00:41:19.620 --> 00:41:21.600
And I'll just endure that won't work.

642
00:41:22.060 --> 00:41:24.940
God, I give up ever holding you accountable.

643
00:41:25.300 --> 00:41:26.260
For making that happen.

644
00:41:27.020 --> 00:41:31.380
I give you, I released you from ever making that happen.

645
00:41:32.340 --> 00:41:34.540
That's another, that's probably the simplest way to say it.

646
00:41:34.580 --> 00:41:37.820
I gave you up it ever, um, ever happening.

647
00:41:38.260 --> 00:41:43.500
Once you do that, you're choosing the Lord and the Lord's like, now I can do

648
00:41:43.500 --> 00:41:45.700
something now I can give you direction.

649
00:41:45.940 --> 00:41:47.900
Now I can move now I can, whatever.

650
00:41:47.900 --> 00:41:49.300
It's not that God won't move.

651
00:41:49.300 --> 00:41:52.660
If you don't, we're talking about a maturing process.

652
00:41:53.060 --> 00:41:56.340
God does that, you know, and has done that in all of our lives.

653
00:41:56.340 --> 00:41:58.540
He does that when we're young in the faith and he's trying

654
00:41:58.540 --> 00:41:59.740
to help us and teach us.

655
00:41:59.740 --> 00:42:01.020
He does more for us.

656
00:42:01.020 --> 00:42:04.220
We does do all this stuff for babies and we don't do all this

657
00:42:04.220 --> 00:42:05.980
stuff for our 19 year old children.

658
00:42:06.620 --> 00:42:08.940
You know, and so I'm talking about.

659
00:42:09.740 --> 00:42:15.020
About how we change in the maturing process, how God changes with us.

660
00:42:15.020 --> 00:42:18.540
Cause some of us are very frustrated with the fact that God, I've seen

661
00:42:18.540 --> 00:42:21.100
amazing miracles and God's done amazing things.

662
00:42:21.340 --> 00:42:23.140
Why is my life so hard now?

663
00:42:23.580 --> 00:42:25.820
Why isn't he doing those good things anymore?

664
00:42:26.220 --> 00:42:29.380
It's not that God's not being as good to you and as loving and

665
00:42:29.380 --> 00:42:30.580
as wonderful as he used to be.

666
00:42:30.580 --> 00:42:32.220
He's just maturing us.

667
00:42:32.700 --> 00:42:34.860
And that means that we have to give things up first.

668
00:42:34.860 --> 00:42:39.260
He's teaching us how to interact with and co-create with him instead of being

669
00:42:39.260 --> 00:42:41.900
babies with him, where we have to have them do everything.

670
00:42:42.340 --> 00:42:45.340
Um, because with the, with babies also comes the fact that they

671
00:42:45.340 --> 00:42:46.700
don't get to choose where they go.

672
00:42:46.740 --> 00:42:49.620
Their moms pick them up and take them around and take them to target and

673
00:42:49.620 --> 00:42:51.900
take them to the grocery store and put them in their high chair and put them to

674
00:42:51.900 --> 00:42:57.180
sleep and the baby has no say, do we want to live like that for the rest of our

675
00:42:57.180 --> 00:43:03.380
lives where we're, because we think that being taken care of completely by God,

676
00:43:03.380 --> 00:43:06.940
meaning like, you know, where we don't have to give anything up and he just

677
00:43:06.940 --> 00:43:12.380
does things for us and whatever we're actually in less control like that.

678
00:43:12.780 --> 00:43:17.460
And life is as comfortable and as exciting it is, it is to have to be a child.

679
00:43:17.860 --> 00:43:22.260
I don't know any adult that ever wants to go back to being a child because it also

680
00:43:22.260 --> 00:43:24.460
meant that you had no control over yourself.

681
00:43:24.740 --> 00:43:27.060
You didn't get to do all the cool things you do as an adult.

682
00:43:27.060 --> 00:43:27.260
Sure.

683
00:43:27.260 --> 00:43:30.660
There's all the responsibilities, but I don't know.

684
00:43:30.660 --> 00:43:33.860
I do not know a single adult other than one, like maybe he's in an

685
00:43:33.860 --> 00:43:35.180
abusive situation or something.

686
00:43:35.180 --> 00:43:37.940
I do not know a single adult that wants to go back to being a child.

687
00:43:38.460 --> 00:43:40.100
And we all talk about how sweet it was.

688
00:43:40.140 --> 00:43:41.780
Oh, wasn't it fun as a kid?

689
00:43:41.780 --> 00:43:43.180
You just have to go to work.

690
00:43:43.220 --> 00:43:44.060
You didn't have to do whatever.

691
00:43:44.100 --> 00:43:45.100
Nobody wants to go back.

692
00:43:45.620 --> 00:43:47.420
Why you give up control.

693
00:43:48.380 --> 00:43:49.980
You're you're now have to be taken.

694
00:43:49.980 --> 00:43:53.660
Just like Jesus told Peter, he said, you will be taken where you don't want to go.

695
00:43:54.660 --> 00:43:55.060
You know?

696
00:43:55.220 --> 00:43:59.060
So anyway, um, so I hope that's helpful.

697
00:44:00.220 --> 00:44:00.820
Is that helpful?

698
00:44:00.900 --> 00:44:01.500
Okay, good.

699
00:44:02.380 --> 00:44:04.700
Uh, so let's get to the next one.

700
00:44:04.700 --> 00:44:05.500
Oh my word.

701
00:44:06.980 --> 00:44:07.580
Really?

702
00:44:08.180 --> 00:44:11.820
I mean, of course I was answering, I was actually addressing multiple people, I

703
00:44:11.820 --> 00:44:18.020
think in that, in that answer and I was just, um, appreciate Sicily providing the

704
00:44:18.020 --> 00:44:22.220
prompt, um, let's see here.

705
00:44:22.300 --> 00:44:24.660
Um, okay.

706
00:44:24.820 --> 00:44:34.220
Uh, so I'm looking at Casey's and I know Casey that this has just been such a hard

707
00:44:34.220 --> 00:44:34.940
time for you.

708
00:44:34.980 --> 00:44:41.140
Um, I feel very, um, honored by the Lord that we get to, um, know you walk with

709
00:44:41.140 --> 00:44:44.940
you while you're going through such a hard time, but I'm really sorry that you are having

710
00:44:44.940 --> 00:44:49.060
to go through a hard time because having a support system, being married and having a

711
00:44:49.060 --> 00:44:55.020
husband and all of that does not mean that it doesn't feel alone because you're still

712
00:44:55.020 --> 00:44:56.700
having, you're the one having to do it.

713
00:44:57.500 --> 00:44:57.740
Right.

714
00:44:58.740 --> 00:45:00.060
Um, and.

715
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:12.000
And okay, so let me just ask you, because this has been a bit, there's been a bit of time that's passed. I know it was just yesterday, but you also responded to your own to your own post.

716
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:24.960
Could you basically give us an update on do you still have a question or a wondering or or anything. I don't want to address something that that's past or you're going, oh, actually, that was so yesterday.

717
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:37.960
Um, I think it's past and some things have kind of worked out today. I guess the question I have for you is that I had, I wrote it down it's kind of in regards to this.

718
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:42.960
If one choice brings me into shame and condemnation.

719
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:50.960
And another choice brings me into freedom and love is the latter choice, the one I should be choosing.

720
00:45:50.960 --> 00:46:08.960
Um, it does. Um, but here's the thing. So, the former choice brings you into shame and condemnation, but is that the only way to make that choice is in shame and condemnation.

721
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:27.960
Like in other words, I do not, I mean, this is not me trying and in any way, shape or form to make to tell you, or to put to tell you that one form of handling your situation is better than the other, because I disagree I think that either situation.

722
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:44.960
So me personally, and I'm not putting my beliefs on you, I'm just trying to explain this from a spiritual perspective of like, I believe that either one of those situations is that either one of those and solutions is valid going the naturopathic route, or do you

723
00:46:44.960 --> 00:47:02.960
human radiation. And here is why I could be wrong about that I'm just telling you here is why I think that is because those are tools. So which one does God want you to do, which aspect of creation, does he want to part, what you, and he to allow to partner

724
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:19.960
with you on his healing journey with you as you and he overcome your flesh and your body, which is subject to corruption is thinks that it is being attacked, and it is having to fight, and it is, it is feeling just feeling overpowered by this thing that's

725
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:28.960
called cancer by following the rules of science of like when encounters cancer cells, this is what it does and it thinks, Oh my word, I just have to go along with it.

726
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:43.960
So that's what the body, you know, can think. So while you and the Lord are working through that he provides various solutions that I believe that he created now, quite honestly I don't know enough about chemo or radiation to know whether or not they're,

727
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:53.960
you know, they're, they're bad or the naturopathic way is bad or anything I'm just talking very generally about solutions that are just kind of out there kind of like the television televisions not bad.

728
00:47:53.960 --> 00:48:08.960
But how do you use it. That determines whether or the same thing with the internet. How do you use it. So, the, so these tools so my point is what does God want you to do, what is the what's his heart for you.

729
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:19.960
What is, what does he want to be part of your journey, how are you doing it are you doing it in shame and condemnation, or are you doing it in love and freedom in him.

730
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:31.960
So, so my point is, I don't know which which one you're referring to like which solution you're referring to as you feel that this one's, you would be doing a shame and condemnation this one in love and freedom.

731
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:40.960
So it's really good I don't know, because then you can just make a decision for yourself without it sounding like I'm telling you what to do.

732
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:43.960
And I absolutely have no idea whatsoever.

733
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:50.960
But is that either one of them to be done in shame or condemnation or in love and freedom.

734
00:48:50.960 --> 00:49:02.960
So my question to you is that is, is one of them in shame and condemnation because when you've presented it before the Lord.

735
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:18.960
He, and you feel, how would I put that when you've presented this potential solutions before the Lord, you're feeling his love in his freedom in one way not your idea of what you think God's love and freedom would look like, but you're actually

736
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:30.960
feeling as a son of God, you're feeling God's Spirit, you're feeling love freedom and openness in this one. And in this one, you want it because you're doing it out of fear.

737
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:36.960
And that honestly could be for either one of those solutions, whichever because I really don't know which one you're referring to for each one of those.

738
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:47.960
So, are you doing it out of fear well then obviously you know if you're feeling fear well then you're like, Oh my goodness, and this is definitely shame and condemnation, but God could have you do that.

739
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:58.960
And just not just not you be doing it because this is where he's showing you love and freedom and you don't have to, you don't have to approach it in shame and condemnation.

740
00:49:58.960 --> 00:49:59.960
So,

741
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.240
My point is it really could be either answer because it's depends on how you're doing them.

742
00:50:05.240 --> 00:50:07.360
How are you making that decision?

743
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:12.820
And so as far as like, you may have already that, you know, you could just take everything

744
00:50:12.820 --> 00:50:13.820
I said.

745
00:50:13.820 --> 00:50:16.920
And you're like, yes, I actually, I know I've already gone through all of that and I've

746
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:22.600
already settled where my soul is operating and where my spirit is operating.

747
00:50:22.600 --> 00:50:25.160
I've already presented all these before the Lord.

748
00:50:25.160 --> 00:50:29.920
This solution, you know, before the Lord is only in shame and condemnation.

749
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:34.040
That's the only thing when I present it to him that I feel, but this one, I feel his

750
00:50:34.040 --> 00:50:35.480
love and his freedom.

751
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:37.260
So you may, might be there.

752
00:50:37.260 --> 00:50:41.640
So it may, may have already been to the point where, you know, it was decided between you

753
00:50:41.640 --> 00:50:47.160
and the Lord, where your soul is and where your spirit is right now and how, um, uh,

754
00:50:47.160 --> 00:50:51.320
where you're feeling his draw, does that make sense?

755
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:52.320
It does.

756
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:53.320
Yeah.

757
00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:54.320
Yes.

758
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:55.320
Right.

759
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:58.320
So, um, I'm not, again, I'm not trying to in any way, shape or form tell anyone what

760
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:00.880
it is that they need to do and which solution is right.

761
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:02.340
Which solution is wrong.

762
00:51:02.340 --> 00:51:09.720
I'm telling you that generally speaking, I don't believe that most solutions that seem

763
00:51:09.720 --> 00:51:15.800
dichotomous, that's the word I've been looking for that seem dichotomous, that seem, um,

764
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:20.720
that seem in opposition to one another or whatever, that a lot of people, cause like

765
00:51:20.720 --> 00:51:27.200
for instance, I'm here at, um, at Morningstar, a lot of people here believe that, um, uh,

766
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:29.440
believe against masks.

767
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:34.400
They don't like the C word meaning like COVID, they don't like COVID.

768
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:39.760
They don't, there's a lot of, they, they're very, very, very vocally anti-vaccine very

769
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:43.680
vocally to the point where they've been kicked off YouTube and all that good stuff.

770
00:51:43.680 --> 00:51:46.480
So I, I personally, they don't know this.

771
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:51.200
I don't personally believe that way, meaning like, I don't believe that it's, and I can't

772
00:51:51.200 --> 00:51:52.680
believe I'm actually saying all of this.

773
00:51:52.680 --> 00:51:56.900
So please just take this with a grain of salt because I'm trying to express a spiritual

774
00:51:57.600 --> 00:51:58.600
principle.

775
00:51:58.600 --> 00:52:00.900
I'm not trying to tell anybody what it is they need to believe.

776
00:52:00.900 --> 00:52:03.220
It's how are you approaching it?

777
00:52:03.220 --> 00:52:05.700
God created all kinds of things.

778
00:52:05.700 --> 00:52:07.460
God created all kinds of tools.

779
00:52:07.460 --> 00:52:12.100
It's not the tool that's bad between you and the Lord.

780
00:52:12.100 --> 00:52:18.100
Are you operating in the tools in shame and condemnation and fear in trying to, Oh, I'm

781
00:52:18.100 --> 00:52:23.420
working really hard and using all of my effort to obey the Lord by making this choice.

782
00:52:23.420 --> 00:52:29.420
Or am I doing it out of love and freedom that in the Lord, these things are tools and

783
00:52:29.420 --> 00:52:33.020
they can't heal me and they can't hurt me.

784
00:52:33.020 --> 00:52:39.940
Not if I choose that it's God that's healing me, you know, or, you know, or whatever.

785
00:52:39.940 --> 00:52:42.560
So that it's really not.

786
00:52:42.560 --> 00:52:47.860
And then the tools are just which aspect of creation does God want you to engage with?

787
00:52:47.860 --> 00:52:52.460
Now y'all can take that with it with a, and just take that before the Lord and see if

788
00:52:52.500 --> 00:52:54.820
the Lord reveals, you know, that, that to you.

789
00:52:54.820 --> 00:52:58.820
And if he's, and if he says, no guys, this bogus, don't listen to Ashley.

790
00:52:58.820 --> 00:53:01.660
You know, I'm going to tell her she, that's what she thinks.

791
00:53:01.660 --> 00:53:04.300
And you know what, I'm going to give her grace one day to reveal it to her.

792
00:53:04.300 --> 00:53:05.700
That is perfectly fine.

793
00:53:05.700 --> 00:53:08.300
I grew up extremely black and white.

794
00:53:08.300 --> 00:53:10.300
I was very harsh, very judgmental.

795
00:53:10.300 --> 00:53:14.180
I was very definitive in what I believed and everything else was of hell.

796
00:53:14.180 --> 00:53:19.700
And so prior to what I believe now, I would have been very picky or not very picky.

797
00:53:19.700 --> 00:53:23.540
I was at, well, I was very picky, but I was very specific about, I only believe these

798
00:53:23.540 --> 00:53:26.460
things and anything that's the opposite.

799
00:53:26.460 --> 00:53:30.100
Is of Satan, you know, and it is not of God.

800
00:53:30.100 --> 00:53:34.380
God only likes this solution and not this one has the Lord began to expand me.

801
00:53:34.380 --> 00:53:38.860
I believe that he began to show me, and this is how I began to live that Ashley they're

802
00:53:38.860 --> 00:53:44.180
tools just like Romans seven, Ashley, I created the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

803
00:53:44.180 --> 00:53:47.220
It's that you're not supposed to eat from it.

804
00:53:47.220 --> 00:53:49.420
They're not supposed to be your salvation.

805
00:53:50.140 --> 00:53:55.180
You're not supposed to be the thing that you depend on emotionally or physically to heal

806
00:53:55.180 --> 00:53:56.180
you.

807
00:53:56.180 --> 00:53:58.020
Let me do that.

808
00:53:58.020 --> 00:54:01.340
Now that I'm going to do that, which tool do you want to use?

809
00:54:01.340 --> 00:54:03.660
Which tool do you with me?

810
00:54:03.660 --> 00:54:05.140
We'll code aside.

811
00:54:05.140 --> 00:54:07.780
Do we want to be part of our process?

812
00:54:07.780 --> 00:54:12.980
So God gets to decide with us about what that process is because we're not living our life.

813
00:54:12.980 --> 00:54:18.340
And then, and then God just is, is on the standby, you know, giving us approval or disapproval

814
00:54:18.340 --> 00:54:19.340
like, okay.

815
00:54:20.260 --> 00:54:21.260
You're doing it.

816
00:54:21.260 --> 00:54:22.260
Good.

817
00:54:22.260 --> 00:54:23.260
Okay.

818
00:54:23.260 --> 00:54:24.260
That's great.

819
00:54:24.260 --> 00:54:25.260
So I'm going to go see someone.

820
00:54:25.260 --> 00:54:26.260
So make sure they're doing it.

821
00:54:26.260 --> 00:54:27.260
Good.

822
00:54:27.260 --> 00:54:28.260
This is you and God living life together.

823
00:54:28.260 --> 00:54:29.260
He is living through each one of us right now.

824
00:54:29.260 --> 00:54:34.060
He is getting a life experience of what it is like to live in the 21st century, or are

825
00:54:34.060 --> 00:54:37.340
we in the 21st or the 22nd, we're in the 21st, right?

826
00:54:37.340 --> 00:54:42.540
21st century as a 38 year old now married woman.

827
00:54:42.540 --> 00:54:44.220
What's that experience like?

828
00:54:44.220 --> 00:54:47.780
What's it like living with my personality and my character and my character and whatever

829
00:54:47.940 --> 00:54:52.660
He is getting a life experience through me because we're doing, we're living life together.

830
00:54:52.660 --> 00:54:58.100
So because we're living life together, it's not my decision to make it's our decision.

831
00:54:58.100 --> 00:55:00.020
That's why our decision is important.

832
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:03.200
And it's not just his, we co-decide together.

833
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:07.520
The more he matures me in making those decisions and looking like him,

834
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:11.280
the more my decisions bear weight in what it is that we actually do.

835
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:17.360
But, um, so anyway, um, so that is just for you to just take before the Lord.

836
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:21.240
I have no idea what it is necessarily, you know, that, yeah, I don't know what

837
00:55:21.240 --> 00:55:24.040
it is that you want to do and what it is that you and the Lord have decided and

838
00:55:24.040 --> 00:55:27.040
which one you believe is shame and condemnation and which one believe that

839
00:55:27.040 --> 00:55:29.440
you believe that you're feeling freedom, love and freedom in.

840
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:36.480
So just ask the Lord, Lord, you know, would just be, you know, what do we,

841
00:55:36.560 --> 00:55:42.880
what aspect of creation do you desire to be part of my experience?

842
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:46.640
How do you and I want to show who it is that we are in spirit

843
00:55:47.080 --> 00:55:48.840
out into the physical world?

844
00:55:49.240 --> 00:55:51.920
Do we want to do that through chemo and radiation?

845
00:55:52.520 --> 00:55:57.840
Or is the journey that you, you know, knowing the future and you

846
00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:01.680
believe is best for me, is it going a natural pathic route?

847
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:08.760
You know, Lord, Lord, which one, which one are, you know, is, has, I

848
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:13.920
don't know, uh, just, I don't know which one is going to, um, be, which

849
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:18.080
one do you want to be part of help of, um, partnering with us as we create

850
00:56:18.080 --> 00:56:24.120
the outcome because they both have physical, um, I don't know what was

851
00:56:25.080 --> 00:56:28.880
outcomes, you know, you know, there's different side effects to both.

852
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:30.800
There's different experiences to both.

853
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:33.840
Um, but God is the one who heals.

854
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:41.480
So which through which physical method does, does he want your physical

855
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:47.720
body to go through in order to reveal who you and he are in spirit into

856
00:56:47.720 --> 00:56:50.680
the physical realm, and that is going to be very unique for you.

857
00:56:51.200 --> 00:56:54.480
I personally believe it's going to be very different answer for someone else.

858
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:58.920
So, um, like I said, you said that you've gotten through more of a solution

859
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:03.120
and understanding from, um, today, uh, when you've been talking to the Lord,

860
00:57:03.640 --> 00:57:07.960
um, uh, and, uh, that he has been walking a couple of my friends

861
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:11.800
that I, that are here, uh, through that, they have both gotten cancer

862
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:15.920
diagnoses while I have known them while I've been here and they have

863
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:18.760
both not wanted to do chemo and radiation.

864
00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:21.640
And I'm only going, I don't know what you believe in what you've decided.

865
00:57:21.640 --> 00:57:21.880
Now.

866
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:24.240
I just know from your post, you said, oh, you know, I haven't

867
00:57:24.240 --> 00:57:25.320
wanted to do that before.

868
00:57:25.600 --> 00:57:26.320
They didn't either.

869
00:57:27.200 --> 00:57:29.400
And they were dead set against it.

870
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:30.040
Dead set.

871
00:57:30.040 --> 00:57:33.240
They're like, nope, not me and God, me and God, we're doing something

872
00:57:33.240 --> 00:57:36.840
different and they've changed their mind since then I haven't asked them

873
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:40.160
what their spiritual journey with the Lord has been, you know, that finally

874
00:57:40.160 --> 00:57:42.280
brought them to making a different decision.

875
00:57:42.680 --> 00:57:46.400
I've just respected the fact that they have, that they have been

876
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:48.800
asking him all along the journey.

877
00:57:49.080 --> 00:57:52.480
And these are people that'll do hands down, whatever the heck

878
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:53.960
they have to do to follow the Lord.

879
00:57:54.520 --> 00:57:55.400
So I don't know what it is.

880
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:58.480
He told him, I don't know how he is that he did it, but they've been

881
00:57:58.480 --> 00:57:59.720
working this journey with Lord.

882
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:01.840
What do you and I want to do together?

883
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:03.440
Lord, what is that?

884
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:05.240
And Lord, there's only so much that I know.

885
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:08.680
So what, so, um, which tool should be part of our journey.

886
00:58:09.200 --> 00:58:13.920
Um, so in everybody, I believe that God is going to literally have every

887
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:15.920
person go through something different.

888
00:58:16.240 --> 00:58:19.080
He's literally going to tell everybody something different.

889
00:58:19.120 --> 00:58:21.680
I believe some people, it tells them radiation, chemo, other

890
00:58:21.680 --> 00:58:23.120
people, he says, natural pathic route.

891
00:58:23.160 --> 00:58:25.400
Other people, he says, I don't want you to do a jacking thing

892
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:26.760
because I'm going to do that.

893
00:58:28.200 --> 00:58:30.760
Every it's, it's our own unique relationship.

894
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:33.400
The Lord, what we do doesn't kill us.

895
00:58:34.520 --> 00:58:36.120
It's our, it's our inner.

896
00:58:36.160 --> 00:58:42.600
It's our, it's our, um, uh, meaning like it's not our, how do, how do I explain

897
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:46.760
that meaning like that's not the thing that God's focusing on.

898
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:47.720
That's what I'm trying to say.

899
00:58:47.720 --> 00:58:50.880
I'm talking about in a spiritual sense, not like a physical sense.

900
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:51.720
You know, it doesn't kill us.

901
00:58:51.720 --> 00:58:56.640
I'm talking about like in a, in a spiritual sense, that's not which one we

902
00:58:56.640 --> 00:59:03.080
choose isn't in which one we allow to be part of things isn't so much the deal.

903
00:59:03.120 --> 00:59:06.680
It's God's like, why, how are you making the choice?

904
00:59:07.080 --> 00:59:08.520
Are you making it with me?

905
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:11.480
And are you making it in love and freedom?

906
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:15.840
Are you, are you making it because you know, I'm good.

907
00:59:16.520 --> 00:59:21.280
And in my goodness, you sought me and you sought my character and this

908
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:22.840
is what we decided to do together.

909
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:26.880
So, um, so anyway, does that all make sense?

910
00:59:27.560 --> 00:59:28.160
It does.

911
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:31.880
And I think just to hit on that, something, I feel like he told me today,

912
00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:34.280
which was the first time I've heard, because I felt like I was

913
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:35.600
been, I've been in punishment.

914
00:59:36.520 --> 00:59:42.560
And for the first time today, I felt like he gave me like the, I want you to

915
00:59:42.560 --> 00:59:45.680
choose, like the freedom to choose.

916
00:59:45.720 --> 00:59:48.400
Like, I trust you to make a choice.

917
00:59:49.040 --> 00:59:52.400
And, and that was like, what did you just say that?

918
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:56.080
So I know it wasn't me because that wouldn't have come from me.

919
00:59:56.880 --> 00:59:57.880
That's exciting.

920
00:59:58.120 --> 00:59:59.040
That's very exciting.

921
00:59:59.280 --> 00:59:59.880
The God just.

922
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.560
us all on our own journey. He's like tile. What's important to me is, do you know me?

923
01:00:04.560 --> 01:00:10.160
Are you looking at me? Do I matter to you? Do you choose me over what choice you make,

924
01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:16.720
you know, et cetera. And, um, so that is wonderful. That's what all of this is about.

925
01:00:16.720 --> 01:00:24.800
It's about your journey with him. And so, um, and, uh, that's, it's, it's not again,

926
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:31.520
even though we're overcoming, it's not about the overcoming. The overcoming happens as a result of

927
01:00:31.520 --> 01:00:36.880
the development of our relationship with him. So our focus always needs needs to be on their

928
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:42.000
development of our relationship with him and choosing him not focused on the overcoming.

929
01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:48.960
That's a side effect. That's what happens because we do that. So, yeah, I've excited for you.

930
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:54.000
Yeah. To have that. There's nothing like having that stamp of approval, you know,

931
01:00:54.000 --> 01:01:01.920
from the Lord, you know, of just like, uh, just hearing how he sees you and, um, how he views you

932
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:08.240
and how he, um, uh, how he trusts you, how he loves you, you know, to just, to just know that

933
01:01:08.240 --> 01:01:13.760
as opposed to, you know, having a sense that, Oh my word, what if he doubts me or what if he

934
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:20.400
doesn't feel I'm enough or whatever? Yeah. Yeah. That's wonderful. You're welcome.

935
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:27.680
Um, is this an experience to talk about? Oh, I'm sorry, guys. Yeah. Yeah. I was talking with Nick

936
01:01:27.680 --> 01:01:31.440
and, and, uh, Liberty there, what they mentioned the chat. I know, I don't know what this thing is.

937
01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:43.440
Um, okay. Wow. We are a bit past, um, let me see. There's, I think, um, one, I think there's just

938
01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:56.000
one more thing to address because well, maybe let's see here. Um, so Cicely, you asked how does

939
01:01:56.000 --> 01:02:01.920
one who is married abandoned all to God and yet still have needs met by your spouse. Remember

940
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:06.960
that, um, the things are just like what I was talking with Casey about the tools aren't bad.

941
01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:12.320
Um, just like, you know, and I'm not comparing our spouse to a tool. I'm just saying just like

942
01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:17.040
that principle is the same thing with like a spouse or anything else. They're not, they're

943
01:02:17.040 --> 01:02:23.600
not bad. And I mean, it's not bad to have your needs met by a spouse or desire that or whatever

944
01:02:23.600 --> 01:02:27.440
God's just like, just choose me more. I need to be your higher priority so that there's no

945
01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:34.560
competition. But in the process of that, you know, we still have our needs met by my met by our

946
01:02:34.560 --> 01:02:38.960
spouse. Like for instance, me, when I am very upset about something or I'm very hurt or I'm

947
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:45.600
very whatever, um, yeah, I, I, I need to, God needs to be more important than, you know, my

948
01:02:45.600 --> 01:02:50.960
husband, but I also go through, you know, process of that. That doesn't just turn around and just

949
01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:56.240
happen overnight. And I just, um, and so I'll seek, um, my husband about something just for

950
01:02:56.240 --> 01:03:05.840
his comfort. Well, I, and, and so sometimes sure I go to him first before the Lord, because it's

951
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:10.800
just, it's just part of my journey. I just feeling like a little kid and I just need some comfort

952
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:15.520
right now, you know, or whatever. And so we just, um, so it's just kind of like all part of the

953
01:03:15.520 --> 01:03:20.400
journey, but like, ultimately we always need to choose that God is our higher priority, but it

954
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:26.720
doesn't mean that nothing else is wanted or that nothing else has any, has any, um, part in our

955
01:03:26.720 --> 01:03:33.040
life. They're all different parts in which, um, God wants us to have an experience here on earth.

956
01:03:33.040 --> 01:03:38.080
And he put us meaning like, uh, an experience in our soul and in our body. And he wants all of

957
01:03:38.080 --> 01:03:45.600
those any gave all those things apart to play. He's just always the ultimate, they can never and

958
01:03:45.600 --> 01:03:53.200
should never to us provide something or be more important to us than he is. Um, and then us getting

959
01:03:53.200 --> 01:03:58.240
our needs met through him, where his are not enough. And we choose somebody else's instead,

960
01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:06.640
or we choose, you know, something else instead. Um, so there is that, what was the other thing?

961
01:04:07.680 --> 01:04:13.600
Okay. So the last one I believe is, is Kate. I had read that one. Um,

962
01:04:14.640 --> 01:04:19.120
last few days held super low moments. Now there's transformation helpful to have this group support.

963
01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:26.960
Um, Oh yes, it is excellent that you were having dreams just like Rita. So having dreams where fear

964
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:31.920
and stress are present. And then I'm actively applying the things that we're learning, such as

965
01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:37.440
releasing the outcome to the Lord and letting him in close. That's amazing. Because when you start

966
01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:45.920
to dream it, it becomes more, um, it it's evidence of the things that evidence of the fact that it

967
01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:52.080
is becoming more entrenched in really, in your real true belief system. They say the same thing.

968
01:04:52.080 --> 01:04:56.560
And I total side note, but it's the same thing. When you learn another language, they say that

969
01:04:56.560 --> 01:04:59.760
you're becoming more fluent and that it's really.

970
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.200
You really are grabbing a hold of the language when you start dreaming in that

971
01:05:03.200 --> 01:05:04.480
other language that you're learning.

972
01:05:05.080 --> 01:05:09.160
Um, so the same kind of a thing here is because so much of our, our dreams are

973
01:05:09.160 --> 01:05:12.280
revealing both our spiritual, as well as our soul life.

974
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:16.440
So things that we're seeing in the spirit and that we, that, um, God is

975
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:20.080
revealing to us in the spirit, as well as things that are coming up out of our soul.

976
01:05:20.080 --> 01:05:21.200
Sometimes they're good things.

977
01:05:21.200 --> 01:05:24.360
Sometimes they're bad things, but I believe, you know, that this one

978
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:25.680
also, this is a great thing.

979
01:05:26.040 --> 01:05:28.960
You are starting to do things, both you and Rita, you starting to

980
01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:34.360
dream, and those are the choices that when you are presented in those

981
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:38.920
situations with those situations in your subconscious, so to speak, or in the

982
01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:43.480
spirit or whatever it is that you're doing, you are making that new choice.

983
01:05:44.200 --> 01:05:48.720
So it means that really, truly you are owning it and you're making that

984
01:05:48.720 --> 01:05:52.240
decision, um, to the point where you're actually, it's showing up

985
01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:53.240
even in your dream life.

986
01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:54.400
That is amazing.

987
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:56.320
Um, okay.

988
01:05:56.320 --> 01:06:00.120
The last thing, um, okay.

989
01:06:00.160 --> 01:06:03.720
Uh, talking about, uh, talking about, you know, I've been thinking a lot

990
01:06:03.720 --> 01:06:07.280
about the father, Jesus and the holy spirit the last few days, I easily

991
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:09.680
connect with Jesus and the holy spirit, but I know there's a block or

992
01:06:09.680 --> 01:06:13.720
separation with the father there usually is because we've been taught that the

993
01:06:13.720 --> 01:06:19.280
father is the, the, um, the one that's holding us to the law that's the task

994
01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:24.240
master that's, um, you know, that the spirit is the comforter and the spirits,

995
01:06:24.240 --> 01:06:28.720
the helper, and Jesus just loves us, but then there's God who makes all the rules.

996
01:06:29.080 --> 01:06:34.120
And so that, that is a very challenging thing to unlearn, but he's also father,

997
01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:38.240
meaning like he's the origination of love and he's the one that loved you so much.

998
01:06:38.240 --> 01:06:42.480
You were literally born from the love and the desire to have you.

999
01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:51.280
Um, so, uh, uh, so me, when I try, uh, Me, I had a lot of problems with Jesus.

1000
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:55.800
So that was a big hurdle for me to come for me to, uh, cross over.

1001
01:06:55.800 --> 01:07:01.360
But when I finally did, it really is the father that I usually have to, that

1002
01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:04.840
I'm usually struggling with is the father and not Jesus anymore.

1003
01:07:05.160 --> 01:07:08.840
Um, just because that other, that old idea of the task master

1004
01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:10.880
is just so deeply entrenched.

1005
01:07:11.600 --> 01:07:15.080
Um, and so that's why I talk a lot about the father.

1006
01:07:15.080 --> 01:07:17.280
I said, oh, you and the father are doing this or whatever.

1007
01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:20.520
Well, there's the whole Godhead, but I talk a lot about the father just because

1008
01:07:20.520 --> 01:07:23.600
my own personal experience, as well as other people's tends to be that

1009
01:07:23.600 --> 01:07:27.080
the father is the harsh one and the father is typically the one

1010
01:07:27.080 --> 01:07:28.560
we have the greatest issue with.

1011
01:07:28.560 --> 01:07:33.240
So he's the one usually that I, um, that I address my issues with, okay.

1012
01:07:33.240 --> 01:07:37.400
Well, who does God say that I am a lot of, who does God say that he is?

1013
01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:40.960
I'm usually thinking specifically about the father because he's the

1014
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:41.960
one that I have the issue with.

1015
01:07:42.720 --> 01:07:46.200
Um, so I just mentioned that in case it's helpful to anyone else to do the same.

1016
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:50.600
Um, I've done all the things in the past to sort that out, had brave

1017
01:07:50.600 --> 01:07:52.480
conversations, inner healings, et cetera.

1018
01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:52.800
Yeah.

1019
01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:55.960
So, you know, that you can't do anything to fix it other than

1020
01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:57.520
acknowledge that I need his help.

1021
01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:01.640
And then Casey had mentioned the same thing that, you know, just realized,

1022
01:08:01.640 --> 01:08:05.560
wait a minute, I just need to let it go and allow the Lord to do, to do the

1023
01:08:05.560 --> 01:08:10.280
heart shift, remember everything, including faith is a gift from God.

1024
01:08:10.560 --> 01:08:12.720
So without faith, it's impossible to please him.

1025
01:08:13.200 --> 01:08:18.840
And yet faith is a gift, meaning that God won't put you in a position

1026
01:08:19.040 --> 01:08:20.880
where you are condemned by him.

1027
01:08:21.160 --> 01:08:26.160
So if he requires that, so to speak for, to please him, it means he, and it's a

1028
01:08:26.160 --> 01:08:27.640
gift, it means he's already given it.

1029
01:08:28.240 --> 01:08:30.240
So you're all, so you already please them.

1030
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:31.319
Everything's fine.

1031
01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:35.359
Um, and then, so you're saying that I know I can't do anything to fix it other

1032
01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:37.800
than I acknowledge that I need, you know, his help.

1033
01:08:38.080 --> 01:08:42.760
So, yeah, you continue to, you continue to choose that.

1034
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:43.240
Okay.

1035
01:08:43.240 --> 01:08:44.479
If, what does God say?

1036
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:45.760
He says that he loves me.

1037
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:48.080
All right, then I'm going to make that.

1038
01:08:48.080 --> 01:08:49.520
So I can make that.

1039
01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:53.520
So to myself, that's, that's going to be my decision that that is my, the

1040
01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:55.240
reality in which I'm going to exist.

1041
01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:57.640
Um, and then, so now I'm going to act on it.

1042
01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:03.720
If I believe it, if I truly do choose that for my reality, then I'm going to act on it.

1043
01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:05.040
I'm going to put my skin in the game.

1044
01:09:05.160 --> 01:09:10.720
Many more of my mouth is, and now I'm going to risk myself, my future, my today, my

1045
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:13.880
relationship, my whatever on that fact.

1046
01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:17.840
If I believe that if, if I, if God really is love, what would I do?

1047
01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:22.520
If God, if God loves me to the extent that he says that he does, what would I do?

1048
01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:24.680
So I choose it first.

1049
01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:28.720
And then I act on the fact that God loves me.

1050
01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:33.680
That's my reason for doing the thing that I, that I then step out to do, you know,

1051
01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:35.000
because faith without works is dead.

1052
01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:38.439
So we're talking about the works that follows the faith, make the thing that

1053
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:43.399
you're coming into agreement with the reason you'd make the decision.

1054
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:47.319
Like, it can't be like, okay, well, I'm going to, I, I hope this is right because

1055
01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:49.279
here it goes, there's no hoping that it's right.

1056
01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:54.440
You make it for yourself and you're like, I'm going, it's as if you make a new law.

1057
01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:58.880
And you're like, okay, I make the determination that this is what's real.

1058
01:09:59.400 --> 01:10:00.040
And you step.

1059
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.240
And you're like, OK, God, you know, I'm choosing that it's real.

1060
01:10:03.240 --> 01:10:06.800
So I'm assuming that the kingdom of heaven is going to make that thing happen

1061
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:09.360
and it's going to supersede of the principles of the kingdom, this world.

1062
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:14.600
And so I guess that's it for tonight.

1063
01:10:15.120 --> 01:10:17.360
So sorry that we really didn't.

1064
01:10:17.480 --> 01:10:19.680
We're able to cancel just a whole lot of questions.

1065
01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:22.600
I suppose that Cicely had one and Casey had one.

1066
01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:26.280
But I hope that all of this was helpful for for everyone.

1067
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:28.520
And kind of that

1068
01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:30.760
I don't know, just kind of address

1069
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:32.600
maybe some things that maybe we're all going through,

1070
01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:35.560
since apparently we all had a hard week, seriously, what was that?

1071
01:10:37.320 --> 01:10:40.440
And is there something else I'm going to say?

1072
01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:46.400
Maybe not. So I will see you all on Tuesday night.

1073
01:10:46.400 --> 01:10:49.040
And that will be for our rest groups, which is going to be really fun

1074
01:10:49.040 --> 01:10:51.600
because all can just get together and share and

1075
01:10:52.480 --> 01:10:54.520
and just help and love and support one another.

1076
01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:58.840
If you all have any questions, maybe I didn't get to them in tonight.

1077
01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:03.520
Just feel free to put them in the chat and I will answer.

1078
01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:07.560
And anyway, I hope you all have a good night.

1079
01:11:09.480 --> 01:11:10.280
Bye.
