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Hey, Rita, can you hear me?

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I can't see you.

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Oh, there you are.

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Hello.

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Hi.

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Hey, how's it going?

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Good.

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There's my headache band.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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I was thinking, did you just come from working out?

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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How are y'all doing?

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Good.

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I like seeing you in the prayer chair.

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I know, I love this chair.

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Yeah.

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I met this man that he upholsters at a good price.

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And I'm like, oh, yes, because I can't wait to pick out a fabric.

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I'm going to upholster it.

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Oh, nice.

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Let me try to make sure I can have enough power.

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There we go.

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Well, good.

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Now I'm.

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You said you found a man who can upholster,

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but you didn't pick the fabric yet.

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Oh, no, not yet.

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I'm going to wait.

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But it's.

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Yeah.

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I mean,

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I went on to online to look at the fabrics and I got really excited.

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I'm like, Oh,

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I have an Ottoman that doesn't match.

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And so I'm going to do both of them the same fabric.

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Yeah.

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Oh, how nice.

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I love that.

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That's so cute.

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And I love how you made the,

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the fabric feel so fresh and clean and make it feel like even more like

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you were.

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Which is special, you know?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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As opposed to the previous owners.

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Good.

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I am here at a hotel, so I'm sorry. This is the best.

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I hope that the, that the.

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You know, you've got the noise of the hotel.

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You've got the noise of the escalators, you know,

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the whoosh whoosh to the escalators. And then.

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But, and then you some very light lounge noise going on.

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But not.

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What I've done.

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I pulled away from the.

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Sorry. I think I'm getting feedback. I pull.

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I pulled away from the lounge noise.

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And then they have a live.

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They have a live guitar player playing in the bar area.

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So all of a sudden I was like, I've been here all day.

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And this is like the loudest it's ever been.

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I'm going to do a call.

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But because it is eight at night.

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The Starbucks is closed.

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So I'm actually at a conference here in Dallas.

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And that was gifted to me.

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It's such a blessing. And so fun enough.

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I am here.

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Not on purpose.

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Like we, we all are kind of came separately,

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but with two other previous rest intensive members.

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One of them, you know, Rita is, is.

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And she was in the Dallas area.

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And so she and I found that out after I was gifted.

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The ticket.

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And so I found out that she was flying in for us. Well, that's cool.

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And then I ran into Amy Hayes. I don't know.

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You know her, but she lives in the Dallas area.

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She was on the.

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She was in the April 2020 rest intensive.

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The very original one.

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So anyway, so it's like a, it's like a mini reunion.

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And then, so I pull away at the end of the day to.

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Have our last fire side chat.

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I was excited to get to see everybody.

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So.

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I know.

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I'm glad that y'all enjoyed it enough for it to be sad.

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The way it gets every single time is at the beginning,

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everyone's like, oh, I don't know, this is all so new.

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And I'm like, ah, and Rita knows.

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It's like, I just wait.

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Everyone gets to know each other.

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The community is built.

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And then by the end of the six weeks,

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everyone's like, no, these are all my friends.

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So, which is good.

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It's really good.

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That's how I want it to be,

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is that for that community to be developed.

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And right now I'm working on the next rest intensive

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that I'm gonna do.

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Still working on pinning down a time

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and an exact structure and all of that.

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But it's solidifying more and more.

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And I even got some ideas in the session today.

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And so I was writing them down while I was listening.

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So that was fun.

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So, y'all know how this works, six weeks in.

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So, what questions do y'all have?

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Or how have things been going?

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Because remember, think about it like this.

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And maybe this is how we can start.

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Unless someone just has a question

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that you need to start with.

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One of the things that we can do

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is to just think back on how you started,

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where you were six weeks ago.

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You and the Lord, emotionally,

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just internally, spiritually, whatever.

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And then what you were wanting of the Lord

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and experiencing Him into your real life,

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into your daily life.

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Not in theory anymore, not in concept,

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not a, oh, I know something else.

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No, like actually experiencing Him in a new more,

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in a new way that actually changed your daily life.

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It actually affected it.

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It actually landed from heaven onto earth into your life.

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What has happened during the rest intensive time?

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So, does anyone have any of that

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that they would like to share with the class?

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I guess I have at least one thing that's top of mind is,

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it felt like I was just really controlled by my emotions.

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And now it's like, I know how to be an authority over them,

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but also give them their place and let it, you know?

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That's like huge.

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And I was also, I was so like,

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my mind was driving me literally crazy.

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I felt like, cause it's like all of this judgment going on

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against myself or others or God.

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And now it's like, I know how to like, let that go.

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you know what I mean?

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Like it's no shit, you know?

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And so I just feel like I'm walking in so much more freedom.

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And then the third thing is like,

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my friends like would talk about like experiencing God

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and all its encounters.

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And I was like, what are you talking about?

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Like, I mean, I thought it was cool.

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I wasn't like unbelieving about it,

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but I had never really experienced it on my own.

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So to have God just show himself so clearly

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through experiences and just like feels like tangible love

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in that way, it's just been amazing.

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So thank you, Ashley.

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You're welcome.

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Well, what do you think was the thing that helped?

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Like, what was it about like God or yourself

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in a way that you connected or chose to believe

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or whatever that you think was the root issue

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that helped with any or all of those things?

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Like what unlocked it for you, you know?

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I think, well, for the emotions,

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what unlocked it is just like being,

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like talking to God about it because I was stuffing them.

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And so like realizing like, oh, he can handle it.

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Like, I just learned how to be vulnerable with God,

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you know, like having to bring myself

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like all put together to him, you know?

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And knowing that he loves me just how I am,

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like just where I'm at.

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It's not hoops I have to jump through

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and religious stuff I have to like, you know,

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it's just like, he just like love in the way,

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like he loves me just like I am, you know?

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So it's huge.

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Great.

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So, and again, I'm sorry,

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I don't need to like keep asking you to like clarify.

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It's just, I find that what you said to be fascinating

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because in other words, you now believe something,

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you know, different about God.

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Like you act like he actually is,

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you actually are okay with him,

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meaning like you're safe with him.

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Did you just?

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make the choice that that would that that was true and then you and or is it just kind of like

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um you just decided okay well I'm just going to do it and then experience it or like was there

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any risk involved or or was it a more gentle you know slope or like because I'm because again

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I'm trying to learn from other people how they're experiencing things so that I can grow and how

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I articulate or explain to people or give people tools about hey if this hasn't worked we'll try

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this try approaching it this way so that was why I was kind of asking is you know I feel like I

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went through like it took me a couple times of going through it to really get it I feel like

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um one of the things that really helped I think the first time was really like the journaling

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because it really helped me like make it more substantial because otherwise it's just going

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it's more of it just going around in my head so to put it down it felt like it was like a

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real conversation and like I had really released it and I think like I don't know having a record

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too is just great because you can be like yeah I already talked to him about that like it's on

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paper it's on my notes you know what I mean my digital notes so yes it's already done it's

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already real yeah that's right a couple times because I didn't really get the tools at first

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like but hearing other people say like hearing Diana say oh the meditation one yeah that was

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really good like that helped you know and then then as I started to experience it then like when

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I read the tools like on the Facebook or the one that you put on now I'm like okay okay I get it

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but at first at first it was like I felt like the journaling was the breakthrough for me

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and you tell us that we didn't have to like it's okay like he likes he loves you just how you are

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and it's okay to experience those feelings because I always thought that they were the enemy like it

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just you know with and so that's why I stuck them but like yes like it's allowed to be free and open

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with him about it all that was a changing point for me good oh I'm so glad okay yeah because I

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mean that and again my whole point of the rest intensive is what I always say to create a

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sorry I hope it doesn't get too loud on me here but uh that to provide a safe and supportive

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environment as spiritually immersive environment for people to change in other words that they

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don't get to they don't hear someone just tell them hey look because we've all been told that

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our whole lives you know or you know as long as we've been going to church hey this is the

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way it is and God loves you anyway and whatever but I don't know about y'all I didn't feel like

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I was treated as if God was okay with me I would be told that God was okay with me but the way

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people would interact with me is that neither God nor they were okay with me as I was and I'm like

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hey look the experience that I'm getting is not lining up with what I'm being told and so I wanted

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to kind of help I want people to to feel in when they're going through this to an actual new

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experience of like experiencing the truth of God showing up as he's been saying to us that he is

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as opposed to us just hearing yet one more time that God is something that we've already known

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before we ever joined the rest intensive so what's new you know I wanted to figure out because

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my whole point is to help people actually have the courage to believe the things about the Lord

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and to have it in other words to have faith and act on it in such a way that they finally get

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the change that they've been wanting because just telling them the same thing that they've always

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heard isn't going to change it so anyway it's very exciting to hear that it was that you're like you

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know it's the fact that I experienced it I chose that God really was okay and then and so you put

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yourself there and you're like oh my word I'm experiencing God really is okay with me right now

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I'm in his presence feeling this way because I just chose to have that faith you know I just

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chose that just um that it really was true so wonderful I'm so excited that that was helpful

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good good thank you for sharing thank you

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so Diana or Rita do y'all have any I know you're you've got a headache Rita so you know just

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whatever it is you can manage do y'all have anything that y'all can share about where it is

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God really met me because I was thinking about that today that I think you told us something to

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God at one point I can't remember where in what video or what but it you said to kind of choose

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God but how

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ever he wants to come like something like choose to receive him however he wants to

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come and I think I said that I said you know I kept telling him you know I'm here like

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I receive you I choose you however you want to show up and what was really amazing is

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just how he showed it's just too many little things but I know I don't really journey share

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a lot and I I'm not really good at expressing that all you know that kind of stuff in in

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you know I don't know why but anyway the he showed up to me in ways that he has never

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showed up before really yes and what was really I want to cry because what was really was

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he like it was like he was telling me I'm so much more than you have limited me to like

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I don't have to be like how you have how you have through church or religion or whatever

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how I have done things I'm so much more because you know he's multifaceted I mean if you think

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about it how creative is God that he doesn't have to I mean talking through the Bible and

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through things yes he does talk but there's so many more ways he can speak and I would

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just be walking and he would just be it was like he would highlight something and speak

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to me through it and he would say you see I can speak through this like I don't have

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to speak that way I can speak to this and just little things that I feel like they were

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they were like kisses from heaven you know things that I've desired but I've never said

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it I've never prayed for it but they're in in my hands and I thought how in the world

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did this happen because it had to be God like I I didn't pray for it but God knew I desired

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it and and it was like I feel like his way of saying yeah I'm with you you know and and

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so you don't have to worry about you know meeting me that way or what other power other

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people have met me you know so it's like it's my relationship with you and and just how

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unique he is with each one of us because sometimes I feel like in church you know it's not not

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a bad thing but they'll tell you you know because they preach the Bible and do this

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this and that and and so you you think okay it has to be this way and and and we me I've

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been so limited in my mindset I and that's another thing that without some of the revelation

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that you had was mind-blowing and especially I was listening to that the one with the the

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heal the soul I've listened to it like five times and each time I get something new from

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that heal the soul and that's where you're talking about a lot about speaking to the

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soul that's another thing that has changed my life okay because I think I've spoken to

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myself maybe like three times in my whole life like I've never thought to do that yeah

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you know and that has really changed me not just that but you know just so many things

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but the rest because at a certain point the Holy Spirit kept highlighting me highlighting

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the verse where where the Israelites couldn't enter into the promised land because they

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could not enter into rest because of unbelief that that whole part there and I didn't understand

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it I did not understand it like I kept asking like I don't know I don't know what that is

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like I'm not sure what how I can enter that rest how I can enter that place that is where

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I can totally trust God you know and I had heard Chuck Pierce say that the highest form

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of spiritual warfare was rest he said that's the highest form why I didn't understand it

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until now with you speaking saying that because you let God fight your battle because you

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get into that place you're not striving and not trying to you know do it you're just totally

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trusting that God's going to take care of it and you're going to be at rest you know

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like I and so I feel like that's that was a first step is is the revelation right you

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know and then walking into it which is what I'm trying to do every day just not in a striving

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way but in a way of saying okay God you know this is the lifestyle I want

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I don't want to be striving. I want to be at peace. I want to be in rest

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Yeah, I don't want to be but it's a daily thing where I have to choose to do it

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So I feel like this is where I'm at every day saying God. Okay, I choose to just

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What what you know partner with you, whatever?

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Yo, yeah, it is too and I have I've been dreaming differently. I've been

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You know sleeping differently. I have been

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Everything has changed, you know

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Atmosphere has changed in my room and I put my room in order

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God, you know things are you know

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So I think what's coming out outward is is is a result of what's happening in words

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Yes, which things are coming into orders in my spirit, right

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Yeah, that is great. Oh

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That's a wonderful. I'm gonna do it

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I'm gonna do a journey share kind of and I hate to be that

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You know, I hated to just be like the testimony

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but I'm gonna do a little just a journey sure just how it has really helped me and you know,

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Just try to do the best that I can. Oh, that would be wonderful. Thank you for sharing that with us. Oh, that's great

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I'm so glad because yeah, I mean

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I know I know that you've got to have this

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This connection with your father that you've been asking for so that's good

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Well Rita, do you have anything I know you've got a headache so I want to be careful

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I don't know how how intense it is. But do you have anything that you can share with us or no?

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No, I don't I don't feel like I have anything to share right now. Yeah

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All right

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well, Karen is on is you know is

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conference meeting tonight the first one and

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Sorry, I was just now thinking of something that my husband said to today about about

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And then about the conference that Karen is going to with with him and I was just remembering something that he said and I was like

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Oh just a second need to think about this. But anyway, um, so she's doing that now

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Hopefully she'll be able to pop on in a second

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And I hate to do this, but I have to move for just a second. Can y'all like do I don't know

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Sharon, I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna go ahead and

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Can y'all like do you I don't know

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Share with each other like kind of do a little rest great for just a second

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Well, I have to go off camera and off of mic. I apologize for leaving you

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But but maybe y'all can like do a little rest a little rest group for just a second. I'm very sorry

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This is one of the issues of being in public. Sorry, just one second

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Hey all

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So, sorry, you're hurting Rita

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Yeah, it's feel better. It's from staring at the screen. So me looking at you guys. I keep looking away. I'm like

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shredding more so

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Yeah, sorry. I love what you guys had to share and how you guys have grown

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It's been life-changing I'm so glad I'll be honest at the beginning when I started I thought oh my goodness

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Did I you know?

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I don't know like I'm not sure like I just felt led by God and I wasn't really even sure what all it was

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about, you know and

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Wow

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It's amazing. But Tammy

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did you

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talk to us about the zoom thingy that you're you're saying that you

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thing

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Yeah, I mean I was thinking maybe like once a week or once every week every other week

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Whatever works for people's schedules like we could essentially kind of just do like a whole do like with the journey share portion or something like that

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I know it helps sometimes just to be able to talk to other people or or other people to remind you of God's truth

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and so now that we we speak the same language like I know like I have Rita here and then our friend Kim, you

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know, but you know, I

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Like include you guys in that circle of people that

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We can just be community with one another but it's sometimes it's hard with other people

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it's like they're Christians, but they don't really understand this and it's just like

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It just feels odd because like it's just so much

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It's weird that that people don't understand the rest

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Like, I mean, I know I get it because at first I didn't really try to glue. Yeah, but then, but then you tell them and it's like, what, you know, like, we, oh we are at rest we are peace like, what are you talking about like, you know, yeah, I would just

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read over the definition that Rita sent me from her website over and over and I was like, okay.

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All right, and I like try to wrap my head around it but like I have like literally no clue but I'm like, we went nine hours of just like teaching for it to lay the background, you know, and even still after that we still were like, Okay, what does this

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mean and what you know and her walking us through it so.

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And I know there's just more to grow in, and, you know, I think God revealed to me the other day he was like, I mean if you want this into like if you want this to be your new status quo, then you know it's cool like I'll be here with you I'll meet you

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here but it's like, it's like to the degree that I seek him is degree he's going to reveal himself to me, you know, so I'm like, I just, and it's not just like just like oh knowledge but it's like experiencing being with him, you don't mean like just more because

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I just still feel like, you know, I'm still at the tip of the iceberg. So, yeah, yes, definitely.

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Definitely.

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I feel like this is the first realm of if there is a realm or the first, I feel like just take out my foot.

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Did you have any ideas or preferences Diana.

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About what you were asking about being or continuing. Oh no no I was just going to ask you how you were going to do it. Oh no, it doesn't matter I'm pretty much open

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to, you know, to whatever. Gotcha. Do you have a day. Do you have a day that you can do, or you prefer

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Tuesday nights but whatever y'all.

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Any. Yeah, that works for me.

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Yeah, Tuesday night.

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Or Rita.

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I just can't I just don't I think it's fine if I don't open my eyes.

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With migraines when you have migraines if you close your eyes it doesn't hurts less it seems like.

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Yeah, I don't, I've never really had a migraine but I don't want to start.

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That's right.

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I'm sorry.

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Okay.

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So, um, does anyone know have any questions about how to do all of this or Tammy you brought something you brought something up I thought it was interesting, because even though I was off camera and off mic you know I could hear all of y'all.

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So, you were saying that, you know, you would look at the definition that Rita was sent you over and over and then you said even after like all of those hours almost nine hours I guess of teaching that.

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And you said you know even then it's like okay I got it a bit more but still, you know, um, so, is there any kind of insight that you can give me into that for one thing y'all can all pray that the Lord helps me articulated even more simply.

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I was like, Lord, can you help me like bring it just a little bit more down to earth so that it so that people don't have to make as much of a jump or a leap in order to understand the, the point to which I've been able to bring it down.

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You know, I don't want them to have to jump up here I wish that I could bring it further down so is there any insight you can give me into any of that of like what helps or what I don't know or why it was challenging to grasp for a while or anything, because I'm trying

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to grow in that area my husband says that he believes that even though I feel that it's a weakness that I haven't been able to articulate it more simply.

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He believes that it's actually my strength. He says, I think Ashley that it's actually your strength to simplify things. And it's something that you have to grow into.

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I'm like, well right now I haven't grown into it, it's a weakness is what it feels like. But anyway, so any, any insight you can give me into that or not or if not I fully understand that I'm trying to think, I think it's like, it's like you can believe it was like head knowledge and you can believe it, and you, you can you know but like until

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so you have to walk through it with experience,

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you know, and apply it.

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That's when it's like, ah, you know,

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or like sometimes it's like,

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God just has to reveal it to you personally.

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And so then you can like,

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all the pieces can click together.

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Like I was talking to Kim earlier today

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and I was like, you know, I was telling her,

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okay, I got some more stuff that I need to watch

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or whatever on Facebook stuff.

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And I was like, I know I don't want it to be mad knowledge

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because I know I can go there very easily,

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like just like consume knowledge.

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But I just was like,

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but there's also for me as a point of,

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if you don't even know, if you can't,

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you have to conceptualize the revelation first

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in order for you to,

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sometimes I feel like for me to believe it.

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It's like, how do I know to believe it

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if I don't even know what it is?

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Do you know what I'm saying?

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So it's like, I'm in agreement with something

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that I know that it exists,

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but if I don't even know that it exists,

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how do I come into agreement with it?

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Like it's kind of,

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and so now it's like for watching that was like,

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okay, yeah, all right.

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And then when we connect the dots through experience

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and then God can breathe his life on it.

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And then it's like, oh, like I get it cellularly

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or I don't know how to explain it

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because that's just the body.

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But like all three parts of me get it,

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not just my mind or whatever.

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I don't know.

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No, that makes sense because you're right.

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I mean, at the end of the day,

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it has to be a spiritual revelation

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because these are not things

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that we can understand with our heads and be changed.

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There are things that can only be understood by the spirit

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because they're spiritual things.

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The Bible says that they can only be understood

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by the spirit.

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They can't be understood with the logical mind

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or the flesh or whatever.

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So yes, right on the money.

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Absolutely.

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And I've noticed that just,

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that God just,

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I've just been amazed at the work that he does

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when people make themselves available

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in stepping out, like say, for instance,

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in joining the rest intensive

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and intentionally pursuing him,

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especially in the area of like say rest or whatever,

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that God meets them.

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He does the work.

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And I've talked to him repeatedly about this.

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I'm like, Lord, it's so easy.

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All I have to do is kind of like introduce people

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to this idea.

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And then all of a sudden you take over

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and you do all this work in their lives really fast.

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I actually think you do a very good job

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of articulating the whole thing.

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I think you do a really good job in that.

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And I also believe that when I heard you for the,

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I don't know if it was first time,

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I don't remember when,

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but there was, when I heard you,

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I actually felt like I received an impartation.

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Oh, wow.

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I felt like I had received an impartation

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and I didn't understand it,

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but this is what I think.

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I had heard my pastor saying

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that you can't impart something

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that you haven't received, right?

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And then, and I think because you received it

466
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and walked in it and this is something

467
00:33:26.760 --> 00:33:28.040
that it's your calling

468
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:34.000
and that I received an impartation that,

469
00:33:34.080 --> 00:33:36.160
and then, but I had to then take that

470
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:37.280
and do it by faith

471
00:33:37.280 --> 00:33:39.920
because everything's by faith in this walk, right?

472
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:41.400
Even this is by faith,

473
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:43.120
because even in the Bible he's,

474
00:33:43.120 --> 00:33:44.920
I don't know how many times rest is in the Bible,

475
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.520
but it's in there a lot of times too.

476
00:33:47.560 --> 00:33:49.720
And yet we have to still take it

477
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:50.720
and have faith.

478
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:52.760
So it's like everything else,

479
00:33:52.760 --> 00:33:56.640
but God says that we have to be in that place.

480
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:58.800
So I, you know, you're right.

481
00:33:58.800 --> 00:34:01.560
It's not easy, but we take it.

482
00:34:01.560 --> 00:34:05.320
And I was just telling her that I was just,

483
00:34:05.320 --> 00:34:07.320
I was drawn here and didn't know why.

484
00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:08.239
You know, I didn't even know you,

485
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:09.280
I hadn't seen you,

486
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:10.880
but when I saw you,

487
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:12.239
I was drawn by God

488
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:13.400
and I didn't know why.

489
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:14.360
Even when I started,

490
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:15.600
I still didn't know why,

491
00:34:15.600 --> 00:34:16.560
but as I got in,

492
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.120
because this is what I needed.

493
00:34:19.120 --> 00:34:21.840
God knew he heard my desperate cry

494
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:22.840
and he heard,

495
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:23.679
and this is,

496
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.120
he said, I want your soul to rest

497
00:34:26.120 --> 00:34:27.560
because you know,

498
00:34:27.560 --> 00:34:28.800
you've been working,

499
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.440
it's so long

500
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.960
and it doesn't know how to rest.

501
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:37.000
And so I feel that I got that impartation from you.

502
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:38.480
I don't know how or what,

503
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:40.400
but I do feel that.

504
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.440
I feel that I did get something from you at one point.

505
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:45.960
Yeah. Well, I appreciate that.

506
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:46.800
Thank you.

507
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:51.239
And that's something that sometimes I forget

508
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.440
is that the Lord has given me that

509
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:54.880
because I've walked it out,

510
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:56.960
meaning like I've overcome.

511
00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:58.480
I haven't overcome completely,

512
00:34:58.480 --> 00:34:59.600
I'm still working on it.

513
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.400
I mean, is that to the point that each of us

514
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:05.360
has overcome something, we have the authority

515
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.240
to then offer that to someone else.

516
00:35:08.240 --> 00:35:11.560
We have the authority to, I don't know,

517
00:35:11.560 --> 00:35:15.800
to impart that to someone else.

518
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:20.800
And because we have an authority, because we've overcome.

519
00:35:21.640 --> 00:35:25.640
Remember that it even says that, what does it say?

520
00:35:26.560 --> 00:35:31.560
That the martyrs in the book of Revelation overcame

521
00:35:37.200 --> 00:35:39.600
by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony

522
00:35:39.600 --> 00:35:41.040
or something like that.

523
00:35:41.040 --> 00:35:43.840
So anyway, it's fascinating that there's an authority

524
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:46.320
that comes with overcoming.

525
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:49.080
And I have forgotten that sometimes.

526
00:35:49.080 --> 00:35:51.480
But the other interesting thing,

527
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:53.920
let's see, what else did you mention that was?

528
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:55.000
That I thought, oh, okay, yeah,

529
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.120
that was an important point to bring out.

530
00:35:59.120 --> 00:36:00.760
Oh, shoot, it was something you said,

531
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:04.280
and I thought, oh, someone else has mentioned that.

532
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.200
Oh man, it's just right there.

533
00:36:06.200 --> 00:36:11.200
Oh yes, okay, about experiencing it.

534
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.600
So one of the ladies that has gone

535
00:36:13.600 --> 00:36:18.040
through the rest intensive and is very honest

536
00:36:18.040 --> 00:36:22.080
about the fact that it took her a long time

537
00:36:22.080 --> 00:36:23.000
to understand it.

538
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:28.000
So she was one of the, she joined the rest intensive,

539
00:36:30.080 --> 00:36:33.400
like, I don't know, sometime in 2020.

540
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:34.960
She wasn't in April, 2020,

541
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:38.000
but she was like joined later on in the year.

542
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:41.360
And she was at a time, she joined it at a time

543
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:43.880
where the program was going constantly.

544
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:45.520
It was almost like kind of like evergreen.

545
00:36:45.520 --> 00:36:47.400
And then people would just kind of like join in

546
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:50.600
whenever they were ready to join the program.

547
00:36:50.600 --> 00:36:55.200
And it took her months to understand and get

548
00:36:55.200 --> 00:36:57.200
and implement what it is I was talking about.

549
00:36:57.200 --> 00:36:58.440
And she talks about that.

550
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.600
And she is very open about the fact,

551
00:37:00.600 --> 00:37:04.040
she said, I thought I could understand it.

552
00:37:04.040 --> 00:37:07.800
She said, but the reason it took me so long

553
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.320
is because I was trying to understand it.

554
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.200
And I finally had to give up understanding it

555
00:37:13.200 --> 00:37:17.760
and finally just be it, live like it was true.

556
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:19.600
And she said, that's when I got it.

557
00:37:19.600 --> 00:37:21.000
That's when all of a sudden it made sense.

558
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:22.440
So it's like what you were talking about, Tammy.

559
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:24.640
You said you have to experience it.

560
00:37:24.640 --> 00:37:26.840
Finally have to give up the concept at some point.

561
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:28.800
It's like the concept can take you only so far,

562
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:31.640
but then that last bit, you have a leap of faith.

563
00:37:31.640 --> 00:37:33.040
It always requires faith.

564
00:37:33.040 --> 00:37:35.320
Everything with God always has to have

565
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.160
at least some element of faith

566
00:37:37.160 --> 00:37:39.840
in order to bring you that last bit,

567
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:43.040
whether it's an inch or a foot or a mile or whatever,

568
00:37:43.040 --> 00:37:44.480
it always is a bit.

569
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:49.000
And so she said that's finally what got her breakthrough

570
00:37:49.040 --> 00:37:53.080
is that she finally just had to choose that it was true

571
00:37:54.680 --> 00:37:57.600
and because logic couldn't get her the whole way.

572
00:37:57.600 --> 00:38:01.440
And so she finally just had to act like it.

573
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:06.440
She had to choose that it was true, start being it,

574
00:38:06.720 --> 00:38:08.840
and then she got to experience it.

575
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:10.840
So she had to live like it was true.

576
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:13.120
She had to actually be the thing,

577
00:38:13.120 --> 00:38:16.320
be the person that God said that she was

578
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.280
instead of just trying to convince herself

579
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:19.640
she was someone,

580
00:38:19.640 --> 00:38:21.960
hoping that that would make everything change.

581
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:24.360
She finally had to choose that that's who she was

582
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:27.720
and then start acting on that faith by living it out,

583
00:38:27.720 --> 00:38:31.120
like being that and actually living like it.

584
00:38:31.120 --> 00:38:32.760
And she said that that sort of thing changed.

585
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.680
So anyway, yeah, so thanks very much

586
00:38:35.680 --> 00:38:37.160
for pointing those two things out

587
00:38:37.160 --> 00:38:38.840
because those were important things for me

588
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:41.160
to remember and consider, so.

589
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:44.720
Yeah, and then Kim was like, so Tam, what's next?

590
00:38:44.720 --> 00:38:45.840
And I was like, I don't know.

591
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:47.800
She was like, well, what I did is,

592
00:38:48.200 --> 00:38:50.600
I would just listen to them over again

593
00:38:50.600 --> 00:38:52.800
because she was like, each time I would listen to it,

594
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:54.880
something new would like,

595
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:57.240
it would be like another revelation

596
00:38:57.240 --> 00:38:59.360
or to doing that because it really is

597
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:01.360
kind of like peeling the onion, you know?

598
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:03.000
It's like, okay, well, I've experienced you

599
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:04.360
with like three to four levels

600
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:07.240
and I get depressed from those perspectives.

601
00:39:07.240 --> 00:39:10.080
And so now it's like, how do I apply it to other things?

602
00:39:10.080 --> 00:39:13.120
Or I just want to just get deeper

603
00:39:13.120 --> 00:39:14.400
because I know there's more.

604
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:16.320
Don't feel like, obviously, I still feel like

605
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.240
I'm at the tip of the iceberg,

606
00:39:18.240 --> 00:39:20.080
but there's so much more, you know?

607
00:39:20.080 --> 00:39:21.480
And so, yeah.

608
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:22.680
Yeah, so much more freedom.

609
00:39:22.680 --> 00:39:25.360
Yeah, so, and people have told me this repeatedly.

610
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:29.320
They watch my, they re-watch these videos

611
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:31.200
for literally years, you know,

612
00:39:31.200 --> 00:39:32.560
because I've had it three years now.

613
00:39:32.560 --> 00:39:35.320
So they, people tell me they still go back

614
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:37.200
and re-watch stuff.

615
00:39:37.200 --> 00:39:38.880
And that every time they do, they get,

616
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:40.120
they hear me say something,

617
00:39:40.120 --> 00:39:43.080
they swear they've never heard me say ever.

618
00:39:43.080 --> 00:39:46.160
And it's because it's like, now is finally the time

619
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:47.840
for them to understand it

620
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:50.280
because they've owned it now to a particular degree.

621
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:51.760
The first time around, you know,

622
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.080
you haven't owned anything.

623
00:39:53.080 --> 00:39:55.000
And so you're like, okay, everything's new.

624
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.480
So you're only getting so much,

625
00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:59.560
but now that you own it to a particular level,

626
00:39:59.560 --> 00:40:00.400
like you.

627
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.480
walk it out with the Lord, you're like, this is real.

628
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:04.600
Now all of a sudden you can hear things,

629
00:40:04.600 --> 00:40:07.160
you know, at the deeper level that you couldn't hear before

630
00:40:07.160 --> 00:40:08.680
because she could only hear this part.

631
00:40:08.680 --> 00:40:10.520
Now you've gotten to know that.

632
00:40:10.520 --> 00:40:13.120
So now you hear this part and you're like, oh my word.

633
00:40:13.120 --> 00:40:17.600
So, so anyway, so it is true that if you go back

634
00:40:17.600 --> 00:40:21.280
and watch it, that it's like kind of, sort of

635
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:24.120
like it's watching new teachings, not, not completely,

636
00:40:24.120 --> 00:40:26.080
but of course though every now and then someone will say

637
00:40:26.080 --> 00:40:27.880
that they'll rewatch one of my teachings

638
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:30.400
and they'll say that it's as if they've never seen

639
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.840
that entire teaching ever.

640
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:34.240
And they're just like, Ashley,

641
00:40:34.240 --> 00:40:36.480
I just hear it in a whole new way now.

642
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:37.840
And kind of like what you were talking about,

643
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:39.320
the rest shifting tools, it's like,

644
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:41.120
you kind of sort of got it in the beginning,

645
00:40:41.120 --> 00:40:43.560
but not really what on earth is she talking about?

646
00:40:43.560 --> 00:40:46.800
But the more that you've owned this between you and the Lord

647
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:48.680
owning what it means to choose,

648
00:40:48.680 --> 00:40:50.560
owning what it means to actually believe

649
00:40:50.560 --> 00:40:52.600
that he is who he says that he is

650
00:40:52.600 --> 00:40:55.120
to the degree he says he is that.

651
00:40:55.120 --> 00:40:56.160
So he says he's love, yeah,

652
00:40:56.160 --> 00:40:58.000
but how much love does he say that he is

653
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.280
or how much good does he say that he is?

654
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:01.560
And you have to choose that.

655
00:41:01.560 --> 00:41:03.280
And then who does he say that I am?

656
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:06.400
And now let me start believing that and acting like it.

657
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:07.720
Let me start living like that

658
00:41:07.720 --> 00:41:10.480
and then watch it actually change my life.

659
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:13.960
Watch me finally experience the inheritance

660
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.280
that God says that I have, peace, love, joy,

661
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:20.560
you know, long suffering, rest, freedom,

662
00:41:20.560 --> 00:41:23.640
all of those things that God said that I have.

663
00:41:23.640 --> 00:41:25.760
Now let me finally get to experience it

664
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:28.760
because now I'm believing that that's who God is.

665
00:41:29.600 --> 00:41:33.720
And because basically we live out

666
00:41:33.720 --> 00:41:36.080
and currently express through our,

667
00:41:36.080 --> 00:41:38.800
say our personality or the way that we're living life,

668
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.040
we currently live out and express

669
00:41:42.040 --> 00:41:45.640
and put on display who we think God is.

670
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:50.320
So if you look kind of at your life

671
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.600
and you think of how you live

672
00:41:52.600 --> 00:41:54.640
and how you think about yourself,

673
00:41:54.680 --> 00:41:58.360
that is basically who we think God is.

674
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.920
We're that limited in our belief.

675
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:03.840
And so God wants to expand us to understand

676
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:04.920
that he's bigger than all of that.

677
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:08.640
So anyway, my point is that the more that we do that

678
00:42:08.640 --> 00:42:11.040
and the more that we finally experience it,

679
00:42:11.040 --> 00:42:12.400
you know, and so that it's real

680
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:14.240
and that we own it in our relationship,

681
00:42:14.240 --> 00:42:15.840
you know, you understand it more

682
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:17.360
and then you can then,

683
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:19.920
you now start to see things like the rest shifting tools.

684
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:23.480
And it's like, oh, now I understand that or whatever.

685
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:25.880
So, but yeah, it is, it's,

686
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:29.240
that's why for a while I tried to,

687
00:42:29.240 --> 00:42:32.520
and Rita was there when I tried to do this back in October,

688
00:42:32.520 --> 00:42:34.160
I took all of those teachings

689
00:42:34.160 --> 00:42:36.800
and tried to spread them out over six weeks

690
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:38.720
and just like do one a week.

691
00:42:38.720 --> 00:42:43.720
And there were too many questions that people were having

692
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.080
because one teaching just left them

693
00:42:47.080 --> 00:42:49.320
with all of these additional questions

694
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:50.240
now they hadn't had before.

695
00:42:50.240 --> 00:42:52.200
And then you get another teaching added on top of that.

696
00:42:52.200 --> 00:42:53.280
And you're like, okay, now I've got

697
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:54.680
all these other questions.

698
00:42:54.680 --> 00:42:56.960
So what I thought is, okay, like give,

699
00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:59.200
expose them to everything.

700
00:42:59.200 --> 00:43:03.680
And then, then spend the rest of the six weeks going,

701
00:43:03.680 --> 00:43:05.480
like unpacking everything.

702
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:06.640
So now you've like heard it all,

703
00:43:06.640 --> 00:43:08.320
you've been exposed to it all,

704
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:09.720
even if you couldn't understand it all.

705
00:43:09.720 --> 00:43:14.040
So now let's unpack, you know, the particulars.

706
00:43:14.040 --> 00:43:16.880
And so that's why you hear it in the beginning,

707
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:18.440
but you're like, I don't fully understand it.

708
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:20.600
And then it just takes time to kind of like unpack.

709
00:43:20.640 --> 00:43:24.320
So, but anyway, but yeah, the Lord just kind of,

710
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:26.800
the Lord reveals more and more to us,

711
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:30.640
the more that we, don't want to say the more

712
00:43:30.640 --> 00:43:34.320
that we're responsible with what he's entrusted us with,

713
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:37.000
but it's like the more that we,

714
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.080
the more that we value and safeguard

715
00:43:40.080 --> 00:43:42.720
and honor what it is that he's revealed.

716
00:43:42.720 --> 00:43:47.160
And we actually receive, we receive it,

717
00:43:47.160 --> 00:43:48.360
which is what faith is.

718
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:50.520
You're actually receiving God's word,

719
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:53.000
which is peace and parcel of himself.

720
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:55.440
You're receiving that unconditionally,

721
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:56.720
and then you act on it.

722
00:43:56.720 --> 00:44:00.440
You allow it to change you and to change how you act.

723
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:02.000
And the God's like, okay, see,

724
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.440
I can entrust you with peace and parcel of myself.

725
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:07.920
So I will give you more of myself.

726
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:10.760
So anyway, the revelation comes after the poor

727
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:12.400
receiving the acceptance, whatever.

728
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.040
So anyway, so we're great.

729
00:44:15.040 --> 00:44:15.960
That's very helpful.

730
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:17.400
Thank you.

731
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:18.720
You know, I think it's because like,

732
00:44:18.720 --> 00:44:21.080
we've watched so many like out week

733
00:44:21.080 --> 00:44:22.560
over the course of those two days,

734
00:44:22.560 --> 00:44:24.320
which I think it was good because it's like,

735
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:26.480
we started off with this foundation.

736
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.040
Now I'm like, if I went back through it,

737
00:44:28.040 --> 00:44:31.640
maybe I would like encourage myself personally to like,

738
00:44:31.640 --> 00:44:33.960
okay, go back and listen to a,

739
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:38.600
listen to one of them again, once per week to just.

740
00:44:38.600 --> 00:44:39.960
Good idea.

741
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.000
Cause sometimes I'm just like,

742
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:44.120
like I get the essence of it,

743
00:44:44.120 --> 00:44:46.840
but it's like, I'm left with the essence.

744
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:49.480
And I'm like, you know, when I wrote,

745
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:50.800
when I bullet notes,

746
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:52.200
it's like sometimes when it was going through,

747
00:44:52.200 --> 00:44:54.360
I would take bullet notes or whatever.

748
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:56.200
And I'm like, okay, okay, okay.

749
00:44:56.200 --> 00:45:00.160
But just like washing my mind over again with it.

750
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:09.000
So that like it could really infuse because I think at one point it's like, yeah, I was like, yeah, but then I hit another challenge and I got stuck.

751
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:11.000
You have to walk me through.

752
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:25.000
It all sounds great. And then you hit a challenge and you're like, it's like the Israelites, we have such compassion for them. It's like, oh, so that's why every three days they forget the miracle from the three days ago, you know, it's because you hit this new

753
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:36.000
challenge and it's like, yeah, but, but what about this? And, and all it is, is it's just revealing the areas in which we're not believing God, just like say, even though he did this, you still don't believe him here.

754
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:50.000
You still don't believe him to this depth or whatever. And so God's just like, hey, now I'm giving you the opportunity to step into more love and freedom and giving you the opportunity to actually believe me that I am better than you think that I am.

755
00:45:50.000 --> 00:46:07.000
So that's the great thing again, about running into any obstacles, any, any struggles, any trials, any tribulations is know that God is always giving you, giving you the opportunity to believe that it's actually better than what you thought that it was.

756
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:16.000
It's always better. That's always the answer out of the trial or the struggle. Always, always, always without exception. It is never worse ever.

757
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:28.000
It's always God's truth is always better than what you're believing in the middle of the struggle or the trial or whatever. So anyway, that's exciting.

758
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:47.000
We don't have to hate struggles as badly. They're always invitations for, hey, wouldn't you like, I'm giving you the opportunity and I've already invited you to want to have more love and more freedom.

759
00:46:47.000 --> 00:47:07.000
So now you can choose to step into it. Would you like to, you know, that's always his invitations, trials, struggles, tribulations are always his invitations into more love and freedom and the truth is always better, always better than, and in the way that we want it better than what we're currently believing.

760
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:30.000
You can, so when you're in this struggle or in the trial, it is always at, it is always up from there. Always. It's always better. So it's, again, it helps in those trials and struggles as opposed to thinking, oh, see trials of the struggles in when they were in the middle of them, we can think that, oh, see, this is confirming a lie that I'm believing about God that see, I'm really not as great as I thought I was.

761
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:47.000
I'm really not as great as I hoped I was, you know, God really doesn't love me as much as I hoped he did. You know, life isn't as easy as I hoping that it would be. And it's, they're all everything in those, in those trials and the struggles that makes it, we have a tendency to affirm, believe that they are affirming the lies.

762
00:47:47.000 --> 00:48:01.000
And it's always the opposite. It's always, however you are feeling in the middle of a trial and struggle. It is the truth is actually always better than that. Always without exception. So there's nowhere to go but up from trials and struggles.

763
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:16.000
That's so good because I started just thinking like I just was trying to distance myself from the world and all its craziness and all the drama and distress of life. And now I'm like, oh, okay. Like what you're saying is like, no, it's an invitation. I'm like, oh my God.

764
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:34.000
Paradigm shift, you know, like pain. Yeah, I listened to how to go through pain the other day and I was just like, okay, yeah, that's good. It's not trying to avoid it, you know, so, yeah, because remember there's no need to avoid it if it no longer poses a threat.

765
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:57.000
It's like, who cares? Let it be what it is. It's like, so you will go through life's experiences in rest, even though you can go through some similar experiences as to what you've been before, like maybe, for instance, you're in the same situation, same environment as before you were in rest, and it still hasn't changed.

766
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:08.000
What you experience will be different because you will no longer feel threatened by it. That's the thing about living in rest is it still, it doesn't get rid of the chaos.

767
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:16.000
You now move through the chaos and rest because it's no longer a threat to you. So who cares if it's still chaotic?

768
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:29.000
It's no longer a threat. See, the reason why we think of chaos is so negative is it's posed a threat. That's the meaning that we've attributed to chaos is there is a problem and it is creating a problem.

769
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:47.000
But what if it's not? So that's what Jesus did, you know, in the boat, which is the example that I like to use a lot is when Jesus was in the boat, he didn't even feel the need to wake up in the middle of a storm that the disciples who are seasoned fishermen said, hey, look, we know the sea and we're telling you we're going to die.

770
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:59.000
And then Jesus didn't even find the need to wake up, let alone, you know, sit there and then and then just, you know, just watch it and just let it happen. He's like, no, I'm just going to go to sleep. I'm just going to stay asleep.

771
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:07.500
He, in other words, he didn't find a need to change the situation to make it not chaos.

772
00:50:07.500 --> 00:50:09.040
He was like, let it be chaotic.

773
00:50:09.040 --> 00:50:13.280
If you want to, you care because it was not a threat.

774
00:50:13.680 --> 00:50:15.560
So if it's not a threat, why change it?

775
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:19.960
So God does not always want us to change the environment.

776
00:50:20.700 --> 00:50:25.920
Um, uh, from what it is, because sometimes the chaos isn't negative.

777
00:50:26.720 --> 00:50:28.240
Doesn't mean that it's evil.

778
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:32.440
It just, it just means that, you know, it's going through a process.

779
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:38.240
And so God's like, Hey, take it through its process while you're in rest, which

780
00:50:38.240 --> 00:50:42.720
will allow the, something to be birthed out of the process it's going through,

781
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:47.760
as opposed to there being no point to the process, because you're going

782
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:52.960
through the chaos chaotically, meaning that nothing can be born or

783
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:54.680
birthed out of the whole process.

784
00:50:54.720 --> 00:50:55.920
Now that's a waste.

785
00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:01.720
So, so we're not here to change the chaos.

786
00:51:01.720 --> 00:51:03.800
We're here to birth something out of the chaos.

787
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:05.520
And you can only do that in rest.

788
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:07.720
Chaos is not evil.

789
00:51:08.720 --> 00:51:09.040
Okay.

790
00:51:10.080 --> 00:51:15.600
How do you, my, it's your teaching in regards to like us being free will

791
00:51:15.600 --> 00:51:21.480
beings, you know, and like, that's been really impactful for me as well in

792
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:30.160
like, I guess, coinciding that with, like, when you talk about like the

793
00:51:30.160 --> 00:51:35.640
chaos around you or like remaining in rest, right, I think some of the

794
00:51:35.640 --> 00:51:39.200
difficulty that I've had throughout, and I'm definitely at a higher level,

795
00:51:39.200 --> 00:51:44.760
but it's like, when I, if I'm like, okay, if someone is doing something

796
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:48.560
that I don't appreciate, or I feel is like, oh, that's not what I want them to

797
00:51:48.560 --> 00:51:48.760
do.

798
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:49.160
Right.

799
00:51:49.520 --> 00:51:53.360
And, and if I'm like, okay, you know what?

800
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:54.440
I'm not gonna worry about them.

801
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:58.120
Like, I'm just going to be like, what God's giving me control over.

802
00:51:58.120 --> 00:51:58.560
Right.

803
00:51:59.200 --> 00:52:05.840
How do you, I think I have a tendency to be then detached from that person

804
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:07.400
emotionally, you know what I mean?

805
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:11.080
Like, I'm just going to stay in my little box, your little thing.

806
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:13.800
But I feel like, like, that's not operating in love.

807
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:17.600
Like, I don't want to operate out of resentment and be like, you stay over,

808
00:52:17.600 --> 00:52:18.120
you know what I mean?

809
00:52:18.120 --> 00:52:26.280
Like, it's like, I still haven't, um, those two, I haven't been able to put

810
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:26.800
together.

811
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:32.560
Well, we disconnect because we believe what we're threatened, that to stay

812
00:52:32.560 --> 00:52:35.040
connected, it's going to affect me.

813
00:52:35.040 --> 00:52:36.280
It's going to change me.

814
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:37.360
It's going to mess with me.

815
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.800
It's going to do something to me that I don't want.

816
00:52:41.240 --> 00:52:46.920
So that's the thing is that we have to realize, no, I can stay in this

817
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:52.280
situation and still not be threatened because they can still do things to you.

818
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:57.680
They can say things to you that are mean and whatever, but you don't have to

819
00:52:57.680 --> 00:53:04.680
receive them as actually a threat because it's just like, if they say something

820
00:53:04.680 --> 00:53:07.000
to you, you're like, yeah, but who am I in the Lord?

821
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:12.720
Is that actually true between me and God of who it is that he says that I am is

822
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:14.760
what it is that they're saying.

823
00:53:15.240 --> 00:53:18.440
Does that threaten my identity?

824
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:23.680
Say for instance, and I'm totally making this up and I'm making this up based off

825
00:53:23.680 --> 00:53:25.440
of a real story that happened to me.

826
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:29.960
Say for instance, that someone you love tells you that you're prideful.

827
00:53:30.080 --> 00:53:34.080
This was not my husband's way before my husband, way before I met my husband,

828
00:53:34.080 --> 00:53:38.160
actually, but anyway, somebody, somebody told me that I was prideful.

829
00:53:38.160 --> 00:53:39.320
I was shocked.

830
00:53:39.520 --> 00:53:43.000
I was so hurt because that was like a very important thing to me.

831
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:44.760
I did not want to be prideful no matter what.

832
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.720
I was just like, okay, pride was this very big thing that I was always

833
00:53:47.720 --> 00:53:48.440
trying to make sure of.

834
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:49.600
I didn't have in my life, you know?

835
00:53:50.040 --> 00:53:53.840
So when this person said, actually, you were very prideful.

836
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:58.800
It hurts so bad because I'm thinking, what if that's true?

837
00:53:58.880 --> 00:53:59.120
Okay.

838
00:53:59.120 --> 00:54:01.240
So that's where I'm getting this example from.

839
00:54:01.240 --> 00:54:03.600
So say for instance, you're in that situation and someone

840
00:54:03.600 --> 00:54:04.720
taught you you're prideful.

841
00:54:05.600 --> 00:54:10.120
So it's not true, but I'm just, I'm just like trying to get an extreme

842
00:54:10.120 --> 00:54:13.840
example as y'all probably, you know, know by now, I like to use extreme

843
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:16.480
examples to let everyone know, Hey, look, the simplicity of

844
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:18.000
the gospel is very powerful.

845
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:19.440
It's not for the little things.

846
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:20.320
It's for the big ones.

847
00:54:21.240 --> 00:54:24.440
So say for instance, that it really, whatever it is that they were saying,

848
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:27.120
and maybe it's not pride, maybe something else, whatever it is,

849
00:54:27.120 --> 00:54:28.240
say that it really is true.

850
00:54:29.600 --> 00:54:31.560
Is it still threatening to you?

851
00:54:31.600 --> 00:54:34.760
And this is the big thing is that, are you still under threat

852
00:54:35.240 --> 00:54:36.520
by the fact that they said that?

853
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:42.200
No, because even if you are dealing with the thing that they are accusing

854
00:54:42.200 --> 00:54:48.080
you of, like say for instance, an alcoholic or pride or something, just

855
00:54:48.080 --> 00:54:52.120
because they say something about you, that is true because the things that

856
00:54:52.120 --> 00:54:53.440
they say about you that aren't true.

857
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.760
That's a little easier for us to understand that, Oh, I shouldn't

858
00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:59.800
feel threatened to whatever, even though it hurts to somebody says it, but let's

859
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.280
talking about the really serious ones, what if it is true? You're still not under threat because

860
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:11.200
here's the thing, if you really are prideful or if you really are an alcoholic or if you really are

861
00:55:11.200 --> 00:55:17.360
whatever it is that somebody said, I'm totally making all these things up, then are you and

862
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:24.080
God still okay? Yes. Are you an alcoholic or prideful or whatever it is the person said,

863
00:55:24.080 --> 00:55:30.240
are you that thing in your spirit? No, that is not who you are. So therefore,

864
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:35.360
what it is that they're saying isn't threatening because it can't touch who it is you are,

865
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:39.280
it can't touch your identity, it can't be said about Christ, it can't be said about you, period.

866
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:45.040
So as a friend of mine says, what can be said about Christ can be said about you and what

867
00:55:45.040 --> 00:55:51.040
can't be said about Christ can't be said about you. So that's where you're not threatened.

868
00:55:51.600 --> 00:55:59.440
It doesn't mean that whatever someone says about you and says that you're struggling with,

869
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:05.360
oh well, that's always a lie. We all know that no, some of that is the truth. I mean like,

870
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:08.560
say for instance that they say that someone deals with pride or whatever, but where is someone

871
00:56:08.560 --> 00:56:16.320
dealing with pride? In their soul, not in their spirit. They are fine. Who it is that they are

872
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:22.000
is fine. That's why I'm saying we have got to understand and choose that who it is that we

873
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:30.080
really are is our spirit, not our struggles, not the pride that we deal with or the, I don't know,

874
00:56:30.080 --> 00:56:35.920
the rebellion or I'm trying to think of other things, our fears, our anger or whatever, that

875
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:42.000
is not who we are. So even if people were to call us onto the carpet for it, that doesn't mean you're

876
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:49.040
under threat. So you can, we can hear things without taking them to heart as our identity.

877
00:56:49.600 --> 00:56:57.600
Your identity cannot be threatened, but you can, your life can experience, the life experience

878
00:56:57.600 --> 00:57:06.000
that you'll have is as if you're threatened if you think that what they said about you is your

879
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:13.600
identity. Then the experience that you have is of one who's actually threatened. So again,

880
00:57:13.600 --> 00:57:22.160
that's what I'm saying. That's why it all goes back to the, what we're experiencing in life

881
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:28.480
is based off of whether or not we're believing what God says about us is true. So you're not

882
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:35.600
experiencing his, his inheritance to the degree to which you're not believing that it's real.

883
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:40.960
If you believe it's real, you'll get to experience it. So it's the same thing with

884
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:45.040
this whole threatening thing. You have to believe that you really are the spirit.

885
00:57:45.040 --> 00:57:50.320
Yeah. Meaning like that your identity is in this is seated in the spirit part of you. That's one

886
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:55.600
with Christ that can't be corrupted. That literally is the new man that according to James,

887
00:57:55.600 --> 00:58:00.160
you know, meaning the book of James has never sinned. You have to believe that's who you are.

888
00:58:00.160 --> 00:58:03.840
And if you do, you won't be threatened by anything that someone else says,

889
00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:10.640
even the things they say about you that are actually quoting true facts, like dealing with

890
00:58:10.640 --> 00:58:17.520
pride or dealing with fear or dealing with whatever you are. Does that make sense? So you

891
00:58:17.520 --> 00:58:24.000
no longer, you no longer need to disconnect from relationships. If you're no longer threatened,

892
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:29.920
the disconnect is a coping mechanism. Unless of course we're talking about, we're talking about

893
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:34.480
relationships. God wants you to stay in. Unless you want to disconnect and not have a relationship.

894
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:42.000
Correct. So we're talking about relationships that God wants you to stay in because you don't,

895
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:46.720
you know, you don't want to disconnect from everybody. So if, but if there are those that

896
00:58:46.720 --> 00:58:52.480
God says to do disconnect with, or to just do it for a time, well, that's different part of it.

897
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:57.280
You might just need to heal because as much as we wish that we were the way that I just described,

898
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:04.160
are we all that healed? No, not even me who teaches this, right? But point is I have lived

899
00:59:04.160 --> 00:59:10.400
that to a particular degree. And that's how I know that this is possible. So that's, so yes,

900
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:15.360
there are some people we do need to disconnect from and all of that stuff. But what I was talking

901
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:24.560
about is that disconnection is not a requirement in order to be, in order to live in rest.

902
00:59:25.520 --> 00:59:29.760
You can live in rest and not be threatened because you do not, you were in this world,

903
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:34.160
but not of this world. You do not need to be removed from it in order to be okay.

904
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:39.840
The power of the gospel is that you can be okay, no matter what you're in.

905
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:46.080
If you were over your environment, you're not subject to it. Does that make sense?

906
00:59:46.640 --> 00:59:52.400
It does. And you know, as you were talking to like that totally made sense. And then it's like,

907
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:57.520
if I have an all against my brother or whoever, you know what I'm saying? I was like,

908
00:59:57.520 --> 00:59:59.840
the whole love part. Cause I'm like, okay, well,

909
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.680
I don't feel like you did what you were supposed to do

910
01:00:02.680 --> 01:00:05.200
in your role as what you're supposed to be with me.

911
01:00:05.200 --> 01:00:07.520
But then it's like, you know what you said is like,

912
01:00:07.520 --> 01:00:12.520
well, God loves me whether I'm ideal or not.

913
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:13.840
You know what I mean?

914
01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:15.960
So then that's what he does to them as well.

915
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:19.520
And he calls me to love, not their soul only,

916
01:00:19.520 --> 01:00:21.480
but love them from their spirit, man.

917
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:25.600
Like see them through God's eyes and be okay with them.

918
01:00:25.600 --> 01:00:27.360
If you're choosing to still be in that relationship,

919
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:31.280
to be okay with them and see them from that point of view,

920
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:34.840
despite their offenses.

921
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:36.520
Yes, correct.

922
01:00:36.520 --> 01:00:38.440
That helped me so I can stay connected.

923
01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:42.360
Cause I just like, I'm good over here at rest, but you know.

924
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:44.040
I know, and then you're like,

925
01:00:44.040 --> 01:00:46.200
but I'm not living in real life.

926
01:00:46.200 --> 01:00:47.720
You're disconnected from everything.

927
01:00:47.720 --> 01:00:50.120
Now, again, as Diana was pointing out,

928
01:00:51.080 --> 01:00:53.280
if you need to disconnect from people

929
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:56.680
or certain types, certain people, you know,

930
01:00:56.920 --> 01:01:00.600
for certain times, a certain season in order to strengthen,

931
01:01:00.600 --> 01:01:02.760
in order to heal, that's fine.

932
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:04.480
You follow the Lord and all of that.

933
01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:05.320
And then there are certain people,

934
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:07.360
God will just tell you to disconnect from permanently,

935
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:11.640
you know, but so there is that,

936
01:01:11.640 --> 01:01:14.080
but I'm talking about the fact that you don't,

937
01:01:14.080 --> 01:01:19.080
that disconnection is not what you need

938
01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:23.200
in order to be safe or okay.

939
01:01:23.200 --> 01:01:25.840
We don't need anything outside of us

940
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:28.400
in order to be okay.

941
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:32.000
Everything that you need, you've already been given

942
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:34.120
and you've already been given all authority.

943
01:01:34.120 --> 01:01:35.200
You've already been given,

944
01:01:35.200 --> 01:01:37.760
been put in the position of all authority and power

945
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:39.840
in Christ, always only being in Christ.

946
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:42.520
Like if ever you start acting as if you're not in Christ,

947
01:01:42.520 --> 01:01:43.360
well, then you're, you know,

948
01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:45.240
you've lost power and authority to,

949
01:01:45.240 --> 01:01:48.120
in other words, the right to act like that.

950
01:01:48.120 --> 01:01:53.120
And that, so, but anyway, so hopefully that's helpful.

951
01:01:53.560 --> 01:01:54.400
Yeah.

952
01:01:56.440 --> 01:01:57.280
I know.

953
01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:58.880
Hey, Karen.

954
01:01:58.880 --> 01:01:59.720
Hi, Karen.

955
01:01:59.720 --> 01:02:00.680
Hey, everybody.

956
01:02:00.680 --> 01:02:02.800
I just, I'm just leaving Cedar Creek.

957
01:02:04.160 --> 01:02:06.440
Oh, you're just leaving?

958
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.320
I'm just leaving over there.

959
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:10.360
They're just talking in there.

960
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:11.200
So yeah, I'm pulling,

961
01:02:11.200 --> 01:02:12.920
I'm out in the parking lot and I'm pulling away

962
01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:14.760
and I had to jump on.

963
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:17.040
Oh, well, I'm glad she did.

964
01:02:17.040 --> 01:02:17.880
Yay.

965
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:22.000
Yeah, does everybody know I'm at a meeting tonight

966
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:26.200
at my favorite spot, the spot where I met Ashley.

967
01:02:26.200 --> 01:02:29.240
And did you tell him Ashley who's speaking tonight?

968
01:02:29.240 --> 01:02:30.560
Yes, I did.

969
01:02:30.560 --> 01:02:31.400
Yeah.

970
01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:32.400
Okay.

971
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:34.440
It's been awesome, you guys.

972
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:36.360
Great.

973
01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:38.000
Isn't he good?

974
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:39.520
He's really good.

975
01:02:39.520 --> 01:02:40.600
He's really, really good.

976
01:02:40.600 --> 01:02:41.440
Yeah.

977
01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:42.280
He's very, yeah.

978
01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:45.440
I'm telling you what, in his testimony is wild.

979
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:48.240
Etienne Bloom, he's the guy who officiated

980
01:02:48.240 --> 01:02:49.960
Ed's and my marriage, wedding.

981
01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:51.800
Yeah.

982
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:55.400
So he, yeah, he has spiritually mentored Ed for years

983
01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:59.120
and Ed stayed with he and his family in South Africa,

984
01:02:59.120 --> 01:03:00.520
that Etienne's from South Africa.

985
01:03:00.520 --> 01:03:04.240
He stayed there for a month or two, something like that.

986
01:03:04.240 --> 01:03:05.640
Maybe a month.

987
01:03:05.640 --> 01:03:07.200
Anyway, a while.

988
01:03:07.200 --> 01:03:08.360
It was at least a month.

989
01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:09.600
It might've been longer than that.

990
01:03:09.600 --> 01:03:13.600
And that was probably like four or five years ago.

991
01:03:13.600 --> 01:03:18.600
And anyway, so, and in fact, that is where he met.

992
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:23.120
Ed was staying with Etienne where he met the guy

993
01:03:23.120 --> 01:03:26.720
that introduced Ed and I eventually several years later.

994
01:03:26.720 --> 01:03:30.880
So anyway, but anyway, the point is Etienne's really neat.

995
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:35.800
He had a very, he had one of those wild, radical

996
01:03:38.080 --> 01:03:40.840
transformations, salvation story.

997
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:43.640
He was, if I remember the story correctly,

998
01:03:43.640 --> 01:03:46.760
he was, had children and everything, you know,

999
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:50.760
with his wife and he was a, if I remember correctly,

1000
01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:53.520
a raging alcoholic, horrible.

1001
01:03:53.520 --> 01:03:57.080
He had a very, very rough life before Christ

1002
01:03:57.080 --> 01:03:59.520
and then God radically saved him.

1003
01:03:59.520 --> 01:04:04.520
And then within a month of being saved,

1004
01:04:04.640 --> 01:04:07.920
of getting saved, God opened his eyes

1005
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:10.800
and all of a sudden Etienne gets into the spirit realm

1006
01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:13.520
and a very wild, wild experience.

1007
01:04:13.520 --> 01:04:15.440
So he's a very, very neat person,

1008
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:19.200
but he has a tremendous heart for people

1009
01:04:19.200 --> 01:04:24.200
and a lot of very solid wisdom, so spiritual wisdom.

1010
01:04:28.120 --> 01:04:29.520
So anyway, so.

1011
01:04:29.520 --> 01:04:33.200
If anybody wants to, anyone wants to text me

1012
01:04:33.200 --> 01:04:34.840
their full name if they're on Facebook,

1013
01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:37.520
his message tonight is on one of Linda's pages

1014
01:04:37.520 --> 01:04:40.320
so I could send it out to you all.

1015
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:41.160
Great.

1016
01:04:41.160 --> 01:04:42.000
I can invite you to this page

1017
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:43.680
and I can invite you to this page

1018
01:04:43.720 --> 01:04:46.480
and you can watch part of this conference, you guys.

1019
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:47.320
Oh, wow.

1020
01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:50.160
So text me your name that's on Facebook

1021
01:04:50.160 --> 01:04:52.120
if you want me to invite you to this page

1022
01:04:52.120 --> 01:04:53.120
to watch part of it.

1023
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:55.840
All right.

1024
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:57.120
Thank you.

1025
01:04:57.120 --> 01:05:00.000
Well, we were all, I don't know.

1026
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:04.080
know, if you can do this, so if you can't do it while you're driving, you know,

1027
01:05:04.080 --> 01:05:07.000
and just like, tell us like audibly, then that's fine.

1028
01:05:07.040 --> 01:05:13.520
But we were all just updating each other on, um, how on the, uh, the, the

1029
01:05:13.520 --> 01:05:18.360
rest intensive and like where it is that we had started and what it is that we

1030
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:20.240
were wanting between us and the Lord.

1031
01:05:20.720 --> 01:05:25.200
And then how we were wanting to experience him in our lives and new ways, you know,

1032
01:05:25.200 --> 01:05:28.800
and rest and affecting our lives, expecting basically, you know, affecting

1033
01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:32.280
us emotionally and our relationship with the Lord and et cetera, and

1034
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:34.000
then where it is that we are now.

1035
01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:36.800
So do you have any, any update for us?

1036
01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:37.760
I'm sorry.

1037
01:05:37.760 --> 01:05:40.480
You haven't gotten to hear everybody else's, but you will on the recording.

1038
01:05:41.040 --> 01:05:41.440
Okay.

1039
01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:41.960
Sure.

1040
01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:42.680
Thank you.

1041
01:05:43.160 --> 01:05:43.600
Yeah.

1042
01:05:43.600 --> 01:05:48.920
I, I feel like I guess the word that just came to me is a little more grounded

1043
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:56.880
in my, um, relationship with the Lord and these tools, these tools have been

1044
01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:01.680
really good of just choosing God instead of worrying about circumstances or

1045
01:06:01.680 --> 01:06:05.000
outcomes, choose, choosing God.

1046
01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:09.400
And then, yeah, so, so it's been really good.

1047
01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:16.480
It has, it's been really, really helpful and still pray for me for sleeping at

1048
01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:24.240
night, I'm just believing it's going to get better, um, um, but, um, but yeah,

1049
01:06:24.240 --> 01:06:27.800
there's, I can, I can just tell some shifts and some shifts, even in this

1050
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:34.080
last, you know, week, and I was telling Ashley and, you know, that transformation

1051
01:06:34.080 --> 01:06:42.120
session, just some wins and, and, um, I just feel, um, I feel better.

1052
01:06:42.120 --> 01:06:45.880
And then, you know, at TMC tonight is, you know, just our oneness with God,

1053
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.360
you know, truly, truly we're one with him.

1054
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:52.920
We just haven't really been taught that and haven't really, uh, we're still,

1055
01:06:53.240 --> 01:06:57.760
you know, learning that and practicing it, but, you know, he talks about just

1056
01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:03.280
keeping our eyes on God, you know, and that we're one with him really, but if

1057
01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:08.680
our eyes on God, it can't really be on any darkness and that, that was really

1058
01:07:08.680 --> 01:07:08.840
good.

1059
01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:10.080
I'll put this on for a second.

1060
01:07:10.560 --> 01:07:14.840
Um, yeah, that's one of the things that I really like about Etienne's viewpoint

1061
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:19.320
is he's one of those people that always encourages people to look at God.

1062
01:07:19.720 --> 01:07:22.680
In other words, you know, look at the positive, not what you're trying to

1063
01:07:22.720 --> 01:07:27.640
escape from and to always focus on God instead of the demons and instead of

1064
01:07:27.640 --> 01:07:31.760
Satan and all my word, everything's so hard and he's like, no, no, no, you

1065
01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:33.960
don't, don't give it power.

1066
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:39.080
You don't have to worry about it so much if you're focused on the truth, because

1067
01:07:39.080 --> 01:07:43.920
then you'll recognize it and it won't have that power over you because you're

1068
01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:46.000
focusing on the thing that does have the power.

1069
01:07:46.160 --> 01:07:47.440
So, yeah, that's great.

1070
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:48.320
Go ahead, Karen.

1071
01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:51.480
Yeah, it's just, I mean,

1072
01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:59.240
yeah, it's just, it's just good, you know, and this, and I was struggling with

1073
01:07:59.240 --> 01:08:07.120
some things and when this intensive started and, and I'm just so glad that I

1074
01:08:07.120 --> 01:08:15.160
did this, excuse me, and you know, God's so good to meet us, you know, and we're

1075
01:08:15.160 --> 01:08:18.720
at our knees, you know, and I heard about the intensive conduct the last minute

1076
01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:27.640
and, and he's got, you know, I'm, I'm very grateful because I'm very grateful.

1077
01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:29.279
I'm so glad.

1078
01:08:30.040 --> 01:08:31.160
Yeah, I really am.

1079
01:08:31.160 --> 01:08:33.920
And I'm grateful for all of you and in this class.

1080
01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:35.439
Yeah.

1081
01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:38.040
Well, thank you, Karen.

1082
01:08:38.040 --> 01:08:40.319
I appreciate you giving us an update.

1083
01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:45.600
Yeah, I'm on, I I'm on I-70, but it's not very busy right here, so.

1084
01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:46.760
Oh, okay.

1085
01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:47.240
Yeah.

1086
01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:50.560
So yeah, I'm very familiar with I-70.

1087
01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:56.680
So I've been to Cedar Creek quite a few times, but so many, it's a major

1088
01:08:56.680 --> 01:09:00.560
highway back and forth between Cedar Creek and like, say, Columbia and stuff.

1089
01:09:01.160 --> 01:09:03.920
So anyway, it's good to get to see everyone.

1090
01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:05.479
I'll let y'all all go.

1091
01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:09.760
And we were one last housekeeping thing that I can think of.

1092
01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:14.120
You remember that this, that the program closes on March the 11th.

1093
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:18.640
So through the end of the day, March the 11th, which is Saturday.

1094
01:09:19.040 --> 01:09:25.040
And then you'll still have access to the things like in the platform, not the

1095
01:09:25.040 --> 01:09:29.240
Facebook group, because remember the Facebook groups closing, but the the

1096
01:09:29.240 --> 01:09:34.880
platform where it's like the teachings that are in there and, you know, on the

1097
01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:40.600
left-hand side, along with fireside chats, your transformation sessions and your rest

1098
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:44.600
groups. And let's see what else.

1099
01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:49.800
Oh, and then I'm going to, Ed and I thought that we were traveling this next

1100
01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:53.920
week, which is why I delayed the transformation sessions to next weekend.

1101
01:09:54.200 --> 01:09:56.840
But I have found out that we're not traveling this week.

1102
01:09:57.120 --> 01:10:00.080
So there's opportunity to do transformation.

1103
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:05.000
sessions earlier so I'm going to open up times and so and see if some of the

1104
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:09.720
people who had scheduled for the weekend would like to go ahead and bump them up

1105
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:14.040
sooner and then that also means that the personal ministry times will be able to

1106
01:10:14.040 --> 01:10:18.000
be sooner as well they'll be so I'll be reaching y'all out specific those who

1107
01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:21.960
have personal ministry times and reaching out specifically and about

1108
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:28.200
those so and that's all. Ashley do you think you can do do me a favor do you

1109
01:10:28.200 --> 01:10:33.960
think if you can would you be able to upload there's a video on the Facebook

1110
01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:40.960
group and it's it's the one about healing of the soul. Healing the soul and

1111
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:46.520
the body. Yeah it's about healing the soul where you talk about about talking

1112
01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:50.480
to the soul and then talk about about I don't know you it's a lot about healing

1113
01:10:50.480 --> 01:10:55.120
and that yeah it's in your in the list of videos you think you can upload that

1114
01:10:55.120 --> 01:11:12.960
one? Sure I'll upload that one for you. Okay thank you. That's the one Diana that's the one with the vision with the like the wound? Yeah. Okay yeah oh my god I was at the airport yesterday and I was like dictating that it's about oh my god it was

1115
01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:24.520
like so I was like I have to like. So good yeah. Oh good. I'm glad you like it. Okay good. Ashley if I scheduled

1116
01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:27.880
something like for next Sunday can I make it sooner too because I'm actually

1117
01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:31.000
going to be at another ministry conference at Cedar Creek next weekend

1118
01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:37.680
too. Yes yeah you can do it sooner as well so well that that'll work great so. Okay

1119
01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:53.520
okay can everybody say everybody say something to me? Yeah. Hi everybody. Hi. Hi Karen. How you doing? Good to see you all.

1120
01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:59.500
Good to see all of you and then I think that Tammy said that she would be

1121
01:11:59.500 --> 01:12:03.840
reaching out about like a community group or something so y'all can stay in

1122
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:21.520
touch if you'd like to Karen so. Okay okay yes. I'm so glad I got to see you all for a few minutes. Yes thank you for coming on. Yes thanks for doing that Karen. So good to see all of y'all. Y'all take care I'll see you in the

1123
01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:30.480
next session. Thank you Ashley. Thank you everybody. Bye. Bye. Thank you. Bye everybody. Bye.
