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Thank you.

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Hey there.

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How are you.

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Maybe we should start with prayer it's been one of those days. Wow.

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Sorry.

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But is everything going good.

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Um, we're gonna say yes.

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Just yeah, I've been well I've been working on my taxes trying to I kind of try to get them done. When you're self employed you know it's I have all these things to go through blah blah blah.

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I like your cup. And anyway, my goal is always to try to get them done by the 15th of March.

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Well that's not always but that's what it has been.

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But I'm trying to do that and I get, you know, I get tons of real estate calls and then I've got a kind of a crazy closing tomorrow and we're just trying to figure out if this deals even for real.

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And, but anyway, I won't go into all the details but it's been a little bit crazy.

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I don't know how many calls with the title company and this girl in the bank and, and, and apparently. Anyway, apparently she lost her husband last year and she inherited some money.

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And she's helping a new boyfriend by a flip property and, you know, we're beginning to wonder if she's even for real because we can't get ahold of the bank and the bank's most overnight money and blah blah blah blah blah and I think I finally got to talk to the bank

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a while ago.

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This is going to be so interesting Ashley. I know, I know people have tried to get me into it in the past I'm just like, thank you.

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Yeah.

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I said you have to have a heart and a grace for it. I know some people though, that love it. I mean love it and I think everybody should be in real estate because they just love it which is the way it should be, you know, what it is that they love to do

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and that they can see something in it and then they're happy about they're willing to go through all of the navigating all of the red tape and all of the synchronicities and everything that's wonderful.

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Yeah, it's not me. Yeah, right. Well, it's good that you it's good that you know what you're supposed to do and I love it too. It's just been a, it's been kind of a crazy year with a lot of my deals so I'm just, I've been, I've gotten my mentors praying with me

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that these my deals will start being bathed in better but I realized a lot of my deals are for me to pray for my clients. Yeah, you know, and to pray them through and.

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But it's been an interesting year.

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Thank you for getting us together today and we just pray Lord for that you would just descend your rest and your peace and remind us Lord of who it is that we are and just help Karen Lord as she navigates through all of this that she would see

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that she would orchestrate everything and create everything Lord with you from heaven for the benefit of her clients, and that testimony sword would come out of this for the people that her teammates and her and her clients would be able to see the impossible done in

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Jesus's name.

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Amen. Amen. Now on top of it my, my one nose was kind of, it's kind of running today every once in a great while I have this one sinus kind of bugging me so a little bit.

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Oh yeah, and so I've got my, my handy dandy stuff my natural doctor gives me it's called up your nose.

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It's, it's all natural.

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Yeah, it is it's all it's all good stuff I have a natural doctor that sends me all kinds of goodies.

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So I've been using it a lot today, and drinking lots of water and she even sent me some be pollen the other day.

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Yeah.

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So if you're low on energy so I took a little of that today because I'm to do so much and then all of a sudden I'm like, Oh gosh Ashley.

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Because this this bank called me from Dallas I mean this girl has a private banker.

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Oh well, I mean, I mean, not.

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She's a private client or something so anyway I was on. Yeah, so they finally called me right around three o'clock. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah.

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And, you know, just depends on like what kind of like the bank that you're with and what kind of, I don't know whatever so I've got one of those through my mom, and because my mom used to work for the bank she used to work for the president

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of the bank. And so I got in on one of the employee family accounts.

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you are assigned a, you're assigned to someone to, you know, that you can

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personally call with all your stuff, which I have lived.

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So, and it's not like any of my accounts as big as any of the people that they

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deal with, but I'm thoroughly appreciative of that one person.

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I can't always call if I ever have any issues.

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And that is nice.

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Yeah.

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Now I've got her private banker's phone number.

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Hope.

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Hopefully this all goes well.

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Yeah.

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And she wants to buy some more properties.

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And so, so how are you, what's been going, what's been going on?

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Like, as far as like, remember where you were before the rest

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intensive, how are you now?

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Like, I don't know, internally between you and the Lord with sleep with, I

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don't know, whatever, whatever's coming to mind.

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Well, we'll start with, you know, it's all good, but we'll start with.

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I have slept a little better.

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Good.

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Since we talked the last few nights, anyway, I've been, you know, trying to

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get off social media and get a little reading and, and, uh, and take my little

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supplements that helped me trying to flip my cortisol and I have been getting to

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sleep a little earlier, not super early, but a little earlier and haven't been

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waking up as much, so that's a win.

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Yes.

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And even through a conference, we had Cedar Creek this weekend.

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And even through that, I was able to, I got home a little late, but

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I still slept fairly good.

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I was a little tired Sunday after three and a half days of conference,

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but I took a little, that be pollen.

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It did.

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And, um, but I had, uh, and I had not, but, but, and I had, I was kind of

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emotional though, kind of, I don't know what all rose up in me, but Ken

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showed up at the conference.

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I had told him about it, but I didn't, he said, well, I might think about coming.

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And then his, his daughter talked him into coming cause she's,

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she went to part of it.

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And so I kind of, I don't know what it was.

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It was really, I kind of responded kind of odd when I saw him.

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Cause, cause this is what he, I mean, he shows up and then he doesn't, he, I'm

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just going to stand back in the back here.

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So he doesn't want to sit with me.

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And so it was just a little odd.

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And then, you know, with his decision-making the way he, you

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know, is getting, he's getting better.

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We're going to say he's getting better at, but you know, he, he

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doesn't know if he's coming the next day and then, then he shows up.

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And again, he just wanted to be in the other side in the back.

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And, um, finally, you know, and it just makes me feel, I just felt a little

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odd and I told him that I said, I feel a little awkward, I said, you know,

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you show up and, you know, we're supposed to be in relationship.

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We're supposed to, you know, you don't even really want to, I

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don't know, it just feels weird.

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So finally that night, I think it was, I went over and said, Hey,

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can I sit down and eat with you?

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You know, so I ate with him and it was fine.

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I think a lot of it's in me, but he he's, I think he felt maybe this

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was his first time back at Cedar Creek since we got married there.

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Really?

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He hasn't, he hasn't gone to any conferences.

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And so I think he's a little self-conscious and stuff too.

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And so finally I was just trying to say, he just needs, he needs time.

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He needs to be alone.

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And so I was trying to just be fine.

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But then in the middle of, we were doing a sound bath with the bowls, his

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daughter learned how to do those.

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And I'm just Linda Ordway's daughter, Becky Jo.

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Really?

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Okay.

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She, and they opened up life sounds dot life.

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They opened up kind of a wellness center.

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It's just beginning.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I heard that.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So I made the mistake of laying down by the door and then people were

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going in and out, in and out, in and out.

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Lots of noise.

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And, and Becky's kind of new at it.

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It was kind of quiet as quiet, a lot quieter bowls than I'm used to.

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And, uh, but next thing, you know, I just started having this, I started

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feeling these emotions coming up and frustration and, and the word, well,

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maybe, I mean, maybe, I mean, last time they were there and they did them.

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I had this wonderful experience with like, I felt the seven

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spirits were around me.

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Um, but anyway, but this, then I felt like this sadness and the word betrayal.

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And I mean, I finally had to get up and just go, right.

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Cause I started crying.

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So I'm crying.

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So then I go up and I write and, uh, got through it.

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And one of my good friends was at the conference.

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So, um, I talked to her about it and she had some good little things to say.

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And so I wrote them down and I had my little, you know, and I'm using my tools,

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but, and I made it through it, but, um, it's interesting cause then, you know,

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then Ken ended up hanging out with some of the guys there afterwards.

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And he's hanging out some with Dwight who he he's never hung out a little bit.

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And, um, but, um,

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I finally shot him a text and then we were at a class together last night. That's a whole other

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deal. But we talked, I asked if he might want to have dinner or do something tonight or tomorrow

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night and he said sure. So I haven't talked to him about when or what or whatever. But

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you know one thing about him is he's good about just saying oh

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because I told him that class we were going to last night I said I've got to leave early

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because I knew I'd see him there. I said I've got a prayer call and he said okay it's all good.

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So anyway I think it's just some things in both of us some you know insecurities in both of us.

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Yeah does that make sense? Oh yeah. Yeah and so you know because I don't sometimes I just kind

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of I'm like I don't know where we're at. I don't know I don't know where he's at but he usually

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comes back with you know it's all good and he'll come back with you know I love you. So

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anyway so then it was funny because our class last night with Dale Shannon was supposed to

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be an ascension class. Another girl was going through some really hard stuff. She just started

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a new job and the other girl brought something up. So Dale said well I think this is a night

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we're supposed to just um we're just supposed to have a teaching class and a healing class.

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So it turned into we did a session on healing. It's about you know embracing your emotions and

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then anyway so we hit we did a session on that and God just brought up some more stuff that

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you know and I and she said what's one emotion that's coming up and it was betrayal and

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so the Lord took me back to kind of when that started and then

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you know we brought in the love of the Lord and released it to the Lord and so

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so anyway and then it's just been a little bit of a

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uh that's all been good. Then I got another word a while ago that my other closing

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the appraisal came in low. So that's two low appraisals in a month. So now which

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I'm just trusting the Lord it's going to work out for the good. Yeah yeah because he's good and

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the last one was quite a stretch quite a long stretch but we got it to work out too. So

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this one's going to work out too. So anyway um I don't know I'm just I'm uh

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um it's it's all it's all good you know. I was telling somebody else last night I even mentioned

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the tools that we learned you know and the rest intensive but I've talked quite a bit about the

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rest intensive to people so that's that's good. Yeah so I do feel better that I feel like I have

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more tools and I'm I'm um I found myself kind of praying in the spirit more and and um

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so I feel like you know I felt a little awkward this weekend but I guess that's all

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just part of it. Yeah yeah it is it's um unfortunately you know in going from point

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a to point b we have to go through the process we have to walk there we don't just decide okay

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I'm willing to be at point b and then boom there's that there's a process of walking through it so

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because it's just um it because what it is what that process is that we're walking through is

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either we're slowly building our faith we're slowly letting bits and pieces of it go more

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and more as we move along or it what it get well I mean I say that or is the same thing it's just

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the other side of the coin is what's also going on is really you know we're just healing is you

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know God can we can um uh we can move into a particular truth about the Lord and about us

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with him and stand in that faith and act on that faith but it's interesting that there's still an

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aspect of healing that God takes us through um and that was something that I had to learn because

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I didn't and and probably it's something that I need to kind of explain a bit more and um in the

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whenever I um walk people through the rest intensive and my husband's really good about this

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this is this is um a bit more of his uh I don't know his I don't want to say his more of his

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calling than mine but um I don't know a bit more of of his natural emphasis when he visits with

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people than mine and that is to to um walk people through the actual healing process of life um

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I, you know, I walk people like with people while they're healing, but there's an aspect

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of, um, and so I'm willing to kind of walk people through a time in which they're healing,

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but there's an aspect of him that he really works very specifically on certain inner healing

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modalities, you know, that really help people like whatever. So, um,

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um, point is that our, our work kind of compliments one another and he, um, um, and, uh,

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so, but it's a point point is that's an aspect of the rest intensive that people go through

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is, is healing. You know, that's why a lot of people ask me, you know, is it normal to cry so

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much? Um, and I was like, yes, that's very normal to cry because it's all in there. Even if we're

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like, okay, I believe this now I'm stepping into faith in this. Now there's an aspect in which

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we're, you know, there's still stuff down in there that needs to come up and out because it's

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no longer in alignment with who we, who we are and what we're believing. So it needs to leave

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and it doesn't just vaporize. Um, sometimes it tests with the Lord, kind of like people who

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are touched by the Lord miraculously and no longer smoke and no longer do drugs.

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And they don't go through any withdrawal. I mean, they're those miraculous transformations,

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you know, just like what there is in like healing sometimes boom in a moment, boom, we're healed.

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And then other times people go through a process just like they do in like trying to get off drugs

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or whatever. We go through a process in our, in our healing of our emotions. That actually is the

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process. It's like, it's down in there and it doesn't vaporize and it has to come up and out.

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And so that coming up and out, you know, is, um, uh, comes to you very often the form of crying,

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et cetera. So I had, um, I had one of the, uh, I had one of the ladies, um, in my original rest

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intensive talk about the fact that she was just crying so much. She's like, Ashley,

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I can't watch any of your videos without crying and crying and crying on earth is going on.

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I've never considered myself to be a weeper, you know? And, uh, and so I said, well, it's all of

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this stuff that is no longer in alignment with what it is you're trying to come in alignment with.

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And it has to come up and out. So it's just, it's okay. If you cry, it means it's leaving,

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you know, as long as you're not feeding on the feelings, then it's leaving. Well, it ended up,

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uh, so she's like, oh, okay. So that helped her. It's helped some other people. And then there was

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a lady, uh, another lady, um, that she recommended to me to the rest intensive. Um, and so eventually

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this lady joined the rest intensive and she experienced the same thing. And so she called

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her friend who'd recommended her to the rest intensive and said, I am crying all the time.

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Is this normal? So my friend said, yes, it's very normal. It's the process. So point is that it's

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just that, uh, what it is that you and Ken are going through is y'all are y'all are trying to

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navigate and like step, you know, and, and move forward and heal and, and make progress and come

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closer together and deal with all of y'all's personal individual wounds and hurts and stuff.

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And so in the middle of all of that is the, I don't know where we are. I don't know how to act.

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I don't know how to interact with you. I don't know how I'm feeling because everything in order

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to shift from being like this, to being like this, like say for instance, that this is the way that

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God wants us to be, but currently we're like this. Well, the process of doing this means all

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of a sudden, everything in us is shifting. And then there's in, in everything, it just was like

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shifting sand. So point is it means that something's going on. It means that y'all are moving.

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It means that things are changing. So, you know, you just keep directing all of that shifting

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towards this, as opposed towards this or anything or any other direction, you just want to keep

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shifting it towards this. But other than that, as long as this is your direction, well, then yeah,

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all of that shifting in you and all of that feeling of discombobulation is all just very

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normal. It's part of everything. It's kind of like a detox. It feels worse before it feels better

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because it means it's working. So, yeah. So I'm sorry. I know it's not fun. And we as adults

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really don't like to feel like we don't know what's going on or why we're feeling this way.

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You know, it's so hard to get to the point where we are more stable and we know what's going on.

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And so for all of a sudden, for it to, um, for us to also not know what's going on or not know

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why we're feeling a particular way, like we did when we were children, we felt out of control

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is very dis, um,

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was not disheartening, but it's very, I don't know, just

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convobulating. It's very, you know, it feels very, feels very

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weird, disconcerting. That's the word I was looking for. So

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anyway, yeah, it's working. And the fact he that he came when he

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didn't have to, and he came, you know, on your recommendation,

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but he struggled like being with you because he's like, I don't

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know what to do with me. I'm just gonna stand over there and

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that he's still trying to develop, you know, do the hard

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work of connecting with people, which is probably really hard,

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because, because maybe he hasn't connected with a lot of these

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people since y'all were separated. And so now all of

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this, like, oh, my word, they all know, and those.

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Well, yeah. And a lot of these were new people. So not even

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very, not even a whole lot of people knew who knew we were

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married. Just really a very small Yeah, because there was a

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lot of new people at this conference. Okay. Yeah. So, huh,

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I said, it's so interesting. Yeah, yeah. So but yeah, that

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was part of it, I think. And just him finding himself. It was

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Dale Shannon said something I talked to her one day. Excuse

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me, I think maybe the first day of the conference, and he wasn't

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there because he worked that day. And she said, Well, he's

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Ken's just got to find himself or he's fine, you know, and then

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he ended up showing up that night. But yeah. Um, yeah, so.

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So yeah, so that's, that's, that's part of it. And what you

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told me last week, when we talked help to just knowing when

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you described it more about, you know, the personality or that,

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the, you know, what's going on with him, and that, you know,

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that, that really, that's how because I've read that several

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times now, you know, because you said, and try to shift to

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the spirit. Now that does, that's the part I need help

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with is trying to shift to the spirit. Talk to you say talk to

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people that have this, you know, these issues of who they are and

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try to see them capable and strong. So I'm trying to, you

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know, it's taken a little while to even digest this, you know,

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yeah, see them who God says they are, you know? Yeah, because

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that hit so much on the right on the money when you said, you

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know, they think they fall short, no commitment. So there's

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nothing to fail. You know, defending low self esteem, don't

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want to be pinned down and committed, spontaneous, act

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confident, victim mentality. So if it doesn't happen, they're

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not responsible. And it's all lies, they weren't confirmed.

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because of the sporadic response. And I think that was

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probably his mom, but knowing this, they're protecting

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themselves. Yeah, so, you know, so keep it simple. I think you

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said that too. So I've read this quite a bit and, you know, try

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to just but still, you know, it's processing this. And, you

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know, I still when I saw his daughter to who were pretty

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close, but she's like, something and I said something

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to her, I'm like, well, I don't really know where Ken's at, I

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get, you know, and, and, you know, I said something kind of

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popped out of me that really, I mean, I guess that's how I felt

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my heart. But and I said, you know, I shouldn't even have said

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anything, because she does, she doesn't care. But then then

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she's always and she's when he talked him into coming, and

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she's growing. And she saw us too. And we're kind of standing

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apart from each other a little bit. And she can she comes over

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and kind of goes like this, trying to push us together. And,

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and, you know, she's here, bless her heart. She's a, she really

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likes me. And she, you know, and she doesn't understand what all

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her dad's going through. Although, yeah, you know,

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she's, she, she does have some wisdom, though, because a couple

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of times she just said, even she just said, I just see you both

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have wounds. And you know, God's working on both of you, you

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know. And she said with Ken, Karen, I think you're just going

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to have to be patient, because it's a timing thing with him.

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Because he, you know, and so I think she's got some wisdom.

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there's no, I don't have that connection. Yeah, we do. We have

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a good connection. But there's moments where my, my mind will

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just kind of go, you know, should I just let this go?

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Should I you know, it's got, you know, but it's like God. God

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just Yeah, yeah, you let him go to the Lord, but you but I

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still want you to, you know, I still and Dale Shannon reminds

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me too, that God's healing me through this. So yeah, bringing

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out that it's bringing out all the things in me that have to

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Yes. Reveals ourselves. Yeah. And the other thing that came up too is that last night was the one

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thing that, because I took on taking care of my mom when I was young because she had mental illness

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and so I took that on. I think I've taken on taking care of other people, excuse me, and you

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kind of that codependency and through the years. And so that's another thing

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that I'm working out of and letting that go. Yeah. And so in a way, and Ken kind of fit that

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bill in a way looking at the back, he'd lost his wife. We were already friends. I had met his wife

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and him first and then, and there was something sometimes when you meet somebody, there was just

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something about him that I, and we would, we even went over and prayed with him and his wife,

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roommate and I went over and prayed with him and Paula at their property, because they were trying

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to figure out what to do. They knew they wanted to maybe move and get out of that County, blah,

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blah, blah. So I knew him some, not real well, but then I ran into him and he said he had tried

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to call me when Paula passed, but I didn't get the call somehow. And I ran into him a couple

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of months later, but here he was, lost his wife and of course he was lonely and hurting.

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because I helped him out. I helped him get his house ready. I mean, it was kind of the perfect

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scenario for him because he needed a realtor. And I mean, he needed some help with that house.

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He really did. And, you know, and he was looking for a companion, you know, and so I just kind of

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fit right in there at all those things he needed and helped him get his house ready. And then we

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got married and, you know, so anyway, so, so yeah, I was just looking at that again last

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night about taking on taking care of people. So, yeah. Yeah.

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And so you were talking about needing help seeing, seeing, seeing someone from the spirit.

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Is that right? Yeah. Okay. So in seeing someone from the spirit, the way that the only way we can

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do that is if we see ourselves like that first. And the only way we can see ourselves like that

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is to agree with God, who we are. Otherwise we're like, who, who is that? Where, where,

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you know, who am I in the spirit? So what has God declared that we are? And, and so I always keep

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very simple about stuff like that. Like, because God says that we're a lot of things that we haven't

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even, that we don't even remember or in the Bible, or we've never noticed, or we've yet to discover

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and it's yet to be revealed to us. So I, in moments when I'm just really needing it, I just need to,

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it's very, it's very powerful. If I just keep everything very simple of what it is I'm supposed

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to remember, or what it is that I have myself remember. And then I just intentionally make

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a choice that it is reality. Not that I wish it that it were not, not conceptually like, well,

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God said, no, I have to make that intentional decision. That is actually the world I choose,

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that it's the world in which I exist, in which I am this being that God says that I am.

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And the simplicity of it that I always choose to remember is the fact that he loves me

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unconditionally, that he doesn't, that I'm unified with him and meaning like all of the,

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everything that's implied in that. The fact that if I'm unified with him, that I'm always in

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communion with him because I'm always touching him because he's always flowing through me.

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And I'm flowing through him because remember, not only is Christ in it, not only are we in Christ,

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but Christ is in us. And then the father and the father is in us. You know, it's just like crisis

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and the father and the father is in Christ. Everything is, is two directional everything.

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So it's not just him towards us and us towards him. It's both at the same time. And so it's

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like extremely immersive.

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It's like, you've got how many things. Oh, I don't even know how many things going on at one time.

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I haven't counted them. You've got, uh, you've got the connection between the father and the

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Holy spirit and the spirits of the Holy father. That's two. And then you've got the fathers of

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the son and the son of the father. That's that's total of four and the spirit of this Holy spirit

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and the spirit, you know, back to the son. If I said that right, son of spirits, first son,

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and then that's six. And then you have us to that element. Now, yes, we're in Christ, but, um, you

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know, so therefore Christ is an S and we're in Christ. And then God is God, the father's in

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Christ and the Christ and the father. So anyway, point is we've got a lot of things going on.

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That is more than a three stranded cord. That's like an eight, 10, 12 stranded cord. I mean,

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that thing will not be broken. You've got so many different connections and everything is going

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towards and exists inside of everything else. Um, so anyway, of course, though I am, uh, I'm not

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meaning to speak out of turn. I'm not, I'm not, uh, it doesn't ever talk about God, the father

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being in spirit and spirit being gone, the father. So, but my point is like, there's so much of the

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in and out that everything that we do know that the spirit is one with Christ. I mean, sorry,

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is one with that is one with God, the father in Christ and then vice versa. So it's like a part

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of the Trinity. So my point is that it's very immersive. There's lots of, everything's going in

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both directions. And, um, so point is that's where we are. So that gives us a tremendous

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amount of security, no matter what's going on here on earth, no matter if we were to die,

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it's like, oh, I'm really okay. Because just like, just like Paul says, you know, to live as Christ

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and to die is gain because he's, his point is like, Hey, if that's truly who we are, then why

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on earth do we feel so threatened by something that could happen here on earth, where we were

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just to simply going to continue to exist the way that we do in heaven. We just will do it just

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completely there in heaven. Instead of like our spirit is being the only thing in heaven, our

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soul and our soul, and then eventually our body will be as well. So he was just like, you know,

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to, to live as Christ, but to die is gain. We're actually gaining something that we, um, even more.

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So the thing is, I just, that just kind of anchors me. It's kind of like, okay, that's who I am. I'm

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solid. I'm secure. And it being in that place of union, I'm protected. I'm provided for remember

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that in that place of union, we exist in an environment in which we're protected and provided

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for. We were not protection and provision is not something that God sends to us or transacts to us

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when we lack it. It's not a transaction. It's not something that gets moved to us. It's an,

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it's an environment in which we exist. Think of it like the ambionic fluid in which a baby exists.

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You know, it's, it's an, it's an environment that is created perfectly to be able to not just

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protect the baby, but actually from what I understand in a manner of speaking, it feeds it.

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I know that it gets fed through the umbilical cord, but there's something about the ambionic

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fluid that I thought that it's, it gets some of its aspect of like, I don't know, nourishment or

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something, you know, I don't remember, you know, what swallows ambionic fluid to the point where

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sometimes it'll get hiccups, you know, so point, you know, when the baby gets hiccups, because it

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swallowed, it swallowed some, some fluid and then it's in its diaphragm starts and starts

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contracting. But anyway, my point is, is that if that, if I just remember that unconditional love

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and I remember that union and then, and then all of the implications from that union, which is

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everything, you know, that I described, I'm just, you just, it's like, then answers all my questions.

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It's all I need to know. I'm perfectly safe. Everything's provided for, and I don't have to

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have it expressed in a particular way here on earth in order for it to be provisioned or in

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order for it to be protection. I already have it. It's a, it's a, it's an environment in which I

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exist. And, and the thing is, if I'm at that place and I'm loved that much, who does that say that I

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00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:38.880
am? That is what tells me who I am is the fact that God, because we're identified by God,

403
00:34:39.600 --> 00:34:47.760
we're carrying his DNA and he loves us unconditionally and unites us with himself

404
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:57.520
where we can't be separated. So that alone is all we need in order to get, in order to be solid in

405
00:34:57.520 --> 00:35:00.080
our identity. It's not a, Oh, do I.

406
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.800
I like Mexican food, or what giftings do I have,

407
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.560
or anything like that, that's not our identity.

408
00:35:06.560 --> 00:35:11.480
So obviously, if we identify ourselves as those things,

409
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:14.080
so if we start, you know, in other words,

410
00:35:14.080 --> 00:35:15.480
my point is it's like, okay,

411
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:17.240
how do you see yourself in the spirit?

412
00:35:17.240 --> 00:35:19.920
Well, it's, you kind of like wobble

413
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.160
if our sense of identity that we're always trying to,

414
00:35:23.160 --> 00:35:26.400
you know, describe ourselves as,

415
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.880
has to do with things that sometimes we see

416
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:30.360
and sometimes we don't.

417
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.120
Well, sometimes I see myself operating

418
00:35:32.120 --> 00:35:34.800
in this gift of the spirit, and sometimes I don't,

419
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.200
you know, but if, so in other words,

420
00:35:37.200 --> 00:35:39.200
that comes and that goes.

421
00:35:39.200 --> 00:35:44.200
And so what's important is that we always identify ourselves

422
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.040
with that which cannot change,

423
00:35:47.040 --> 00:35:51.320
and that is his unconditional love and our union with him.

424
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:52.960
That is our identity.

425
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:54.920
The way I always think of identity is,

426
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:57.480
you probably remember, I'm just gonna remind you,

427
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.040
you know, since we're talking about the importance of this,

428
00:36:00.040 --> 00:36:04.440
is the point at which our spirit is unified or touches

429
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.680
and combined with his spirit.

430
00:36:06.680 --> 00:36:09.800
The point of union is our identity.

431
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.880
It's who we are when we're connected with God.

432
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.600
That is who we actually are.

433
00:36:15.600 --> 00:36:19.760
It is us and our unique connection with the Lord.

434
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:23.640
So if we, that's all I remember

435
00:36:23.640 --> 00:36:28.640
when I am trying to shift into who am I, I am spirit,

436
00:36:32.240 --> 00:36:35.280
you know, because I can't see someone else like that

437
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.600
until I've seen me like that.

438
00:36:37.600 --> 00:36:40.080
And who does God say that I am?

439
00:36:40.080 --> 00:36:42.120
Well, he says, he loves me unconditionally.

440
00:36:42.120 --> 00:36:44.000
He says, I'm unified with him.

441
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.520
That identifies me right there.

442
00:36:45.520 --> 00:36:46.920
He says, I carry his DNA.

443
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:50.880
So whoever he is, whoever Christ is, that's who I am.

444
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.280
For as he is, so am I, you know?

445
00:36:54.240 --> 00:36:56.600
So I just remember it very, very basically.

446
00:36:56.600 --> 00:37:00.400
I'm just like, okay, the unconditional love and his union.

447
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.120
And then from that, I just remember,

448
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.680
and then I have to make an intentional choice though,

449
00:37:06.680 --> 00:37:10.080
because remember, I'm not convincing myself.

450
00:37:10.080 --> 00:37:12.800
I'm just simply reminding myself of something

451
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:15.040
that I then have to make a choice about.

452
00:37:15.040 --> 00:37:17.200
I then have to make a decision about.

453
00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:22.200
And remember that I think it's in the one that I,

454
00:37:22.200 --> 00:37:25.040
it's in the lesson where I talk about one spirit,

455
00:37:25.040 --> 00:37:26.760
you know, where we're one spirit with Christ.

456
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.080
And I talk about the fact that it,

457
00:37:29.080 --> 00:37:32.160
our identity is the point at which we're united with Christ.

458
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:36.960
Remember that I always do that exercise

459
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:38.560
to remind myself of my identity.

460
00:37:38.560 --> 00:37:40.560
I always tell Christ, okay, Christ,

461
00:37:40.560 --> 00:37:42.200
I believe I came out of you.

462
00:37:42.200 --> 00:37:44.760
And I believe I've been reinserted back into you.

463
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:48.040
And that I abide in you and you abide in me.

464
00:37:48.040 --> 00:37:50.920
We abide in the father, the father abides in us.

465
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.120
And therefore I'm always about my father's business.

466
00:37:54.120 --> 00:37:57.680
And that is in that session called one spirit.

467
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:02.560
But that's the exercise that I go through

468
00:38:02.560 --> 00:38:05.560
to remind myself in a moment of who I am.

469
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.800
Who I am is the one that's united with Christ

470
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:11.760
and Christ is in me and I am in him.

471
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:13.640
And then we are in the father and the father's in us.

472
00:38:13.640 --> 00:38:15.040
And that is who I am.

473
00:38:16.160 --> 00:38:17.880
And that solidifies me.

474
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:19.560
It rises me up.

475
00:38:19.560 --> 00:38:22.640
I suddenly remember, oh, I'm united with Christ.

476
00:38:22.640 --> 00:38:23.680
And who is he?

477
00:38:23.680 --> 00:38:24.920
He's a king.

478
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:29.040
He sits on the judgment seat.

479
00:38:29.040 --> 00:38:31.160
All power and authority has been put under his feet.

480
00:38:31.160 --> 00:38:35.480
Therefore, that's who I am and that's where I am.

481
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.080
And now that I've seen me like that,

482
00:38:38.080 --> 00:38:41.680
I now present that to the world.

483
00:38:41.680 --> 00:38:43.640
I now sit in that place.

484
00:38:43.640 --> 00:38:45.960
And then I look at the other person,

485
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:47.800
just like figuratively,

486
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.080
whether it's like, you know,

487
00:38:50.080 --> 00:38:51.240
whether they're right there

488
00:38:51.240 --> 00:38:53.560
or if I'm just imagining them and I'm talking

489
00:38:53.560 --> 00:38:54.960
because I'm wanting to talk to their soul

490
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.600
or their spirit or their body or whatever,

491
00:38:57.600 --> 00:39:01.040
is I look at them from that place.

492
00:39:01.040 --> 00:39:04.280
And the part of them that I focus on

493
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:08.120
is the part of them that's just like me, right where I am.

494
00:39:08.120 --> 00:39:11.680
Seated in Christ, completely perfect,

495
00:39:11.680 --> 00:39:15.640
never disconnected from God, unconditionally loved,

496
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:20.920
a ruler of creation, a king under the king of kings,

497
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:22.240
that kind of a thing.

498
00:39:22.240 --> 00:39:26.000
And then I see them differently and that's who I talk to.

499
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:28.160
And then their soul or their body,

500
00:39:28.160 --> 00:39:30.200
you know, the part that's like acting out,

501
00:39:30.200 --> 00:39:33.440
the part that's not, that's acting on old wounds,

502
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:36.200
the part that's like creating issues

503
00:39:36.200 --> 00:39:40.040
and talking to me the way that they are or whatever,

504
00:39:40.040 --> 00:39:43.160
that part, I no longer feel threatened by

505
00:39:43.160 --> 00:39:45.440
because I'm remembering I'm spirit.

506
00:39:46.200 --> 00:39:47.640
I'm remembering I'm above that.

507
00:39:47.640 --> 00:39:50.640
And then I now see that part of them,

508
00:39:50.640 --> 00:39:54.040
that soul and that body that they think that they are,

509
00:39:54.040 --> 00:39:55.600
is just afraid.

510
00:39:55.600 --> 00:39:59.760
It's just the child of them that's just scared.

511
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:16.600
And doesn't, but it's not who they truly are, who they truly are, is that spirit that knows all things that has access to all wisdom and all knowledge and, and, and always believes their father always feels loved by their father that kind of thing.

512
00:40:17.120 --> 00:40:29.600
So anyway, that's the whole process from start to finish, and that I go through is in order to actually see them the way that Christ sees them and talk to them like that.

513
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:47.320
Not talk to them in concept, talk to the real spirit, talk to the real soul and talk to the real body that exists out there, not the concept of them, the real thing, like, I don't know, like this frequency that's vibrating out there.

514
00:40:47.800 --> 00:41:07.920
And I look at it and I'm talking directly to it so that the frequency and the vibration of the truth of heaven with which I'm speaking will, will, will with authority meet that other frequency out there, that vibration, that whatever, other, that soul or that body.

515
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:17.840
And then they'll understand and then they'll, they'll, they will recognize that a son of God is speaking to it.

516
00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:31.360
And then it, and then it will have an opportunity to respond as opposed to us just talking to the concept of a soul out there and hoping that our words land in the right spot.

517
00:41:31.680 --> 00:41:59.280
We want to be very, we want our, we want to shoot that arrow very true to that soul so that that soul hears a son of God, not, so therefore it's the difference between being very intentional and authoritative as a king and speaking a decree or a, or a, you know, an appeal versus wishful thinking.

518
00:42:00.160 --> 00:42:02.960
You know, anyway, and that's what will change things.

519
00:42:04.160 --> 00:42:11.560
Are you saying literally talking to them or you mean literally when they're not, they're kind of speaking to when they're not there.

520
00:42:12.160 --> 00:42:12.480
Okay.

521
00:42:12.680 --> 00:42:14.400
So how, so give me some examples.

522
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:24.240
Uh, what do you mean examples of like, like, if I were like, like, if I wanted to speak to Ken.

523
00:42:25.240 --> 00:42:25.440
Yeah.

524
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:26.440
How would I,

525
00:42:26.520 --> 00:42:26.840
I mean,

526
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:29.080
Yeah.

527
00:42:29.120 --> 00:42:36.080
And so what I do is I just, I imagine, excuse me, somebody's soul out there.

528
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:37.560
I imagine, I don't know.

529
00:42:37.560 --> 00:42:41.040
I'm just going to make up a person that I don't know, Angela.

530
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:53.240
So if I'm talking to Angela and I'm talking to, and I'm wanting to talk to her soul or her body or spirit, whatever, is I remind myself, I shift into that my spirit man.

531
00:42:54.040 --> 00:43:01.000
And hopefully I'm already there, but, you know, so often we're not, because we're learning how to operate from there, you know, instead of operating from our solar body.

532
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:02.640
So I shift into that place.

533
00:43:03.080 --> 00:43:16.760
And then I, uh, uh, and then I just, I think about the real Angela that exists in her real soul, not her body, not, okay.

534
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:17.600
Now, where is she?

535
00:43:17.600 --> 00:43:21.400
She's probably, you know, I know she lives in Atlanta.

536
00:43:21.720 --> 00:43:25.080
And I need to sit there and imagine her body.

537
00:43:25.080 --> 00:43:32.840
And I don't do that for me, for me, the too many other distractions get in the way.

538
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:34.680
So I'm not trying to make this complicated.

539
00:43:34.680 --> 00:43:38.920
If that works for you to imagine like that actual person's body, that's great.

540
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:43.560
For me, it's too distracting because, um, uh, I don't know.

541
00:43:43.560 --> 00:43:45.560
I'm, uh, it just is.

542
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:53.840
I'm trying to get past their body and get to the soul or get to the spirit, like the real thing that exists out there.

543
00:43:54.200 --> 00:44:02.040
And I have to imagine meaning like, not imagine as if it's not real, but meaning like I have to connect.

544
00:44:02.080 --> 00:44:03.280
That's my, that's my point.

545
00:44:03.680 --> 00:44:10.440
I have to connect with the fact that their spirit is a thing that really does exist out there somewhere.

546
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:15.520
I don't, I don't mean like it exists in the physical realm exists in spiritual realm, but it exists.

547
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:22.720
It's something I can pinpoint and say that you right there, same thing with the soul in the soul realm.

548
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:23.440
Okay.

549
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:27.560
That one right there, that is you, Angela.

550
00:44:28.200 --> 00:44:33.440
And so I just, I just kind of imagine that I don't have a particular spot that it exists.

551
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:40.920
I'm just saying, I'm directing my internal intention towards the real soul of Angela that's out there.

552
00:44:41.600 --> 00:44:45.440
And I talked to it, I talked to it as a kind King.

553
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:51.320
You know, it was the same way that I've talked about as talking to our own soul and body, but here's the difference.

554
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:59.480
We don't talk to other people's souls and bodies with the same authority that we speak to our own well.

555
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:00.760
We kind of do.

556
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.960
But my point is like, we don't have the same authority over someone

557
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:05.440
else that we do over ourselves.

558
00:45:06.120 --> 00:45:10.960
We, we talk to them with the authority of a son of God who is

559
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:13.080
one with that person's spirit.

560
00:45:13.540 --> 00:45:17.880
And so therefore being one with that spirit, there's a measure of authority

561
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:21.400
and the fact that we're also all one with Christ, and so therefore I'm

562
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:22.720
speaking in the authority of Christ.

563
00:45:22.720 --> 00:45:26.720
I'm not speaking any white witchcraft, manipulative stuff

564
00:45:26.720 --> 00:45:28.400
that has the title God on it.

565
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:32.160
And so therefore it makes whatever it is that I say, and I want for them

566
00:45:32.160 --> 00:45:34.480
to be okay and to be like God approved.

567
00:45:34.520 --> 00:45:35.160
No, no, no.

568
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.440
We're not, I'm not talking about anything manipulative or whatever.

569
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:40.800
I'm talking about declaring over them.

570
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:48.500
What God says about them is true and me urging them and, and inviting

571
00:45:48.500 --> 00:45:52.920
the soul and the spirit to feel safe, just like we do with our own

572
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:58.000
soul and body talking to it so that it'll feel safe, you present who

573
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:04.200
it is, you are as a King and as a son of God to it, and it'll recognize

574
00:46:04.200 --> 00:46:06.320
you and it'll recognize your authority.

575
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:10.840
It won't recognize it as having higher authority than its own spirit.

576
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:12.880
So what I always do is I always talk to it.

577
00:46:13.120 --> 00:46:16.000
Like if I'm talking to a solar body and not the spirit, I'm

578
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:17.400
talking to the solar body.

579
00:46:17.720 --> 00:46:22.480
I'll urge it to listen to its own spirit and to feel safe with its

580
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:26.080
own spirit because its own spirit is United with Christ.

581
00:46:26.080 --> 00:46:31.640
And so with some spirit is always going to, um, is always going to be in alignment

582
00:46:31.640 --> 00:46:33.680
with whatever God says is true and all that.

583
00:46:33.680 --> 00:46:34.520
So that's what I do.

584
00:46:34.520 --> 00:46:40.040
I encourage that and I encourage it to, to listen, to, uh, to listen to a son

585
00:46:40.040 --> 00:46:44.440
of God and to know that, you know, what God's, what, that if they're hearing

586
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:49.720
things from me to receive it as the, you know, it's like to hear the protection

587
00:46:49.720 --> 00:46:53.480
and the love of Christ and the warmth and the invitation, you know, and my

588
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:57.600
voice and all of that, so that it'll, it'll start trusting Christ.

589
00:46:57.600 --> 00:47:01.040
I invited it to start trusting its own spirit, that kind of thing.

590
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:06.720
I don't ever interact with a soul or a body or even a spirit as if

591
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.080
I have any authority over it.

592
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:14.280
I speak with the authority of being able to convey a message of truth from Christ,

593
00:47:14.640 --> 00:47:21.080
but not in any way, like I have any authority over it for it to listen to me and obey me.

594
00:47:22.080 --> 00:47:23.480
It obeys Christ.

595
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:25.560
And I'm always urging it to do that.

596
00:47:25.560 --> 00:47:29.440
I'm urging it to connect and to unite with its own spirit.

597
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.520
So it'll stop feeling so separated and isolated.

598
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:34.000
So that's how I do it.

599
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.320
That's the one difference between talking to somebody else's soul

600
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:39.160
and body versus our own.

601
00:47:39.200 --> 00:47:42.240
Other than that, you can take the same thing that I say about talking to our

602
00:47:42.240 --> 00:47:45.400
own soul and body and use that to talk to others as well.

603
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.880
Uh, the only difference is I always urge it to connect with its own spirit and

604
00:47:50.080 --> 00:47:52.480
with Christ, not to obey me.

605
00:47:53.720 --> 00:47:54.000
So.

606
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:55.680
Hmm.

607
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:57.760
Cause this is the first time I know this.

608
00:47:58.080 --> 00:47:58.960
Yeah, it kind of does.

609
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:00.400
This is, this is kind of new to me.

610
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:02.640
So yeah, let's new to everybody.

611
00:48:02.640 --> 00:48:08.200
I talked to, yeah, I just, I just started doing it and I was like, well, this makes

612
00:48:08.200 --> 00:48:10.600
sense to me and it was working.

613
00:48:10.600 --> 00:48:15.200
In fact, um, uh, that, um, I, uh, have even done it.

614
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:19.320
Um, and someone was healed because I talked to their soul.

615
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:20.480
They weren't even with me.

616
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:25.000
I've just got a, got a text or a call saying, Hey, can you pray for so-and-so

617
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:25.440
whatever?

618
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:30.000
And, um, and I spoke to the person's soul and I switched the person's body.

619
00:48:30.040 --> 00:48:31.600
They weren't anywhere near me.

620
00:48:32.160 --> 00:48:36.640
And like they were on the other way, on the other side of town, about an hour away.

621
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:37.960
And I talked to their soul and body.

622
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:41.240
And then they called me back in the next day and said that they were healed.

623
00:48:43.200 --> 00:48:46.320
So, and they'd been dealing with it for, I think, two months.

624
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:48.760
And then said, they called and asked me to pray.

625
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:49.800
And so I did.

626
00:48:50.040 --> 00:48:53.680
And then they said that the next day they said they're, they're completely

627
00:48:53.680 --> 00:48:56.840
healed and the doctors hadn't been able to fix it or anything.

628
00:48:57.120 --> 00:48:59.640
So, and, and, uh, so I've done that.

629
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:05.760
Anyway, so, but, uh, yeah, for like, you know, to just remind somebody

630
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:07.320
of who it is that they are.

631
00:49:07.680 --> 00:49:11.160
Um, think of it kind of like this, as someone comes to you wounded, it

632
00:49:11.160 --> 00:49:14.200
means that there's, there's something that they think that they're lacking.

633
00:49:14.520 --> 00:49:17.960
So I give them what it is that they're lacking.

634
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:23.120
I send to them from my spirit that from Christ that they think that they don't

635
00:49:23.120 --> 00:49:27.680
have love, peace, joy, whatever, because it's a fruit of the spirit that I have.

636
00:49:27.680 --> 00:49:32.560
The authority, if I carry it again, if I've shifted into the spirit, I now

637
00:49:32.560 --> 00:49:36.280
have the authority to give that because Christ has already given it to them.

638
00:49:36.560 --> 00:49:37.880
So I'm just sending it.

639
00:49:38.120 --> 00:49:40.400
Graham cook talks about the same thing.

640
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:44.360
He talks about it kind of like the fruits of the spirit are like this, this, uh,

641
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:48.680
tornado or an environment that exists around someone like the fruits of the

642
00:49:48.680 --> 00:49:53.600
spirit that they have, uh, that they have overcome into and that they are, are

643
00:49:53.600 --> 00:49:57.960
actually showing up as fruits in their lives is that in the spirit, he said,

644
00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.960
it's like, they are, they're surrounded.

645
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.720
these fruits of the spirit. So whenever they come in contact with someone that is missing

646
00:50:04.720 --> 00:50:12.160
one of them, like say somebody is very depressed, they said, you can send joy to them and change

647
00:50:12.160 --> 00:50:19.360
their atmosphere. You can change their whatever. And so, and I hadn't heard that except recently,

648
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:23.760
my husband told me that a couple of days ago that Graham Cook talks about that. I was like,

649
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:29.600
that is so cool. So anyway, it's the same kind of a thing. God tells to give people what it

650
00:50:29.600 --> 00:50:35.600
is that they're lacking, not to send them to God, but to give them what they need. There's

651
00:50:35.600 --> 00:50:39.200
nothing wrong with sending them to God. But the thing is, he said, don't send them away.

652
00:50:39.200 --> 00:50:44.400
If you were my body and you're my hands and feet, give them what they think they don't have.

653
00:50:45.040 --> 00:50:49.920
Send them the love, give them the peace, give them the joy, that kind of thing.

654
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:56.160
Yeah. So if you say you're going to send something to Lucy, is that the name you use?

655
00:50:56.960 --> 00:51:07.200
What would you say to her? Say you wanted to send peace and joy to her. Could you just role play it?

656
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:21.840
So what I do, again, is I gather my understanding. In other words, my choice that it's a reality

657
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:28.800
that Lucy's soul is out there. And then I kind of like zero in on it. I just decide,

658
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:34.720
okay, because I'm zeroing in on the fact that it's there, not that I know what it looks like,

659
00:51:34.720 --> 00:51:39.680
but I'm zeroing in on, okay, that Lord, I don't know where it is, but that one, that soul.

660
00:51:39.680 --> 00:51:45.600
Let me ask you this. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. I just, I was trying to think too. When do you

661
00:51:45.600 --> 00:51:48.560
talk to a soul? When do you talk to the body? When do you talk to the spirit? So

662
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:56.000
I'll just generally about anything related to belief or emotions, I talk to the soul.

663
00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:02.000
Anything health related, I talk to the body. And then the spirit obviously is already in

664
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:07.760
an agreement with God. And so that is sometimes I just talk to the soul. I mean, to the spirit is

665
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:13.600
like a fellow spirit. And I just encourage it and urge it and like, hey, I'm standing with you

666
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:22.960
and to, to, you know, stand as a ruler and, and, and encourage and, and love on the, the soul and

667
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:28.960
the body is in, is in standing in agreement, not trying to teach the spirit, their spirit,

668
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.240
something because their spirit already knows their spirit is already one with Christ.

669
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:36.800
I'm just choosing. I'm just saying, Hey, look, I'm standing in agreement with you.

670
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:42.000
And I'm, you know, and I'm encouraging you grow the spirit of wisdom, the spirit of understanding

671
00:52:42.720 --> 00:52:45.840
and, and it's just like standing with and encouraging each other in the spirit,

672
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:50.320
but I'm not like teaching somebody else's spirit something because I'm one with it. It's, it's,

673
00:52:51.600 --> 00:52:58.400
I don't, I, I don't have any authority over it. I don't know. So I can stand in agreement with it.

674
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:06.240
So, so, so well, yeah. So you went to the, go back to where you went to you, you, you, you've

675
00:53:06.240 --> 00:53:10.160
zeroed in on the soul, then you're just kind of, yeah. What would you say?

676
00:53:10.560 --> 00:53:15.040
And so zeroing on the soul and, and I just kind of sense from the lowest bear, okay, Lord,

677
00:53:15.040 --> 00:53:18.960
you know, what is it that they're, that they're needing? Are they not feeling loved? Are they not

678
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:24.960
feeling peace? Are they not feeling joy or whatever? And then what I do is I, I, sometimes

679
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:31.760
I like talk to the soul and I'll just, you know, um, encourage them again to remember who it is

680
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:37.040
they are to, to not be worried, to not have to carry this, this burden that they're carrying,

681
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:42.880
that they don't have to do that anymore. They don't have to be burdened by this depression.

682
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:48.400
They don't have to be burdened by this, whatever. And then, um, basically encourage it and appreciate

683
00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:54.080
it for what it's done and let it know, Hey, look, you know, you no longer have to carry this. You,

684
00:53:54.080 --> 00:54:00.240
I now release you from it or that kind of thing. And then what I do is in order to send it love

685
00:54:00.240 --> 00:54:06.560
or joy or whatever, I feel it inside of me. Cause again, the only way I can do this

686
00:54:06.640 --> 00:54:11.520
a soul can't do this to another soul, only your spirit. So you have to go into your spirit and

687
00:54:11.520 --> 00:54:15.840
from your spirit, you're operating in love, joy, peace. I mean, you're actually operating in it.

688
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:19.920
And so from that, you feel one of those, you feel the love, you feel the joy, whatever.

689
00:54:20.560 --> 00:54:25.200
And you kind of like, you're imagining that soul and you just kind of like, okay, God,

690
00:54:25.200 --> 00:54:28.720
that one right there, you do the same thing with the fruit of the spirit. You're like, okay,

691
00:54:28.720 --> 00:54:34.000
wherever it is, Lord, that love I'm connecting with that love and Lord, I am intentionally,

692
00:54:34.560 --> 00:54:40.400
you then send it. I don't know. I always feel like my spirit, when I tell my spirit, Hey,

693
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:45.040
look, this is what I want to do. My spirit is like, okay. And then together with my spirit,

694
00:54:45.040 --> 00:54:52.000
I, I say together with my spirit, sensing my spirit, my spirit will take this love and push

695
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:59.760
it towards and gift it to, and push it into that soul. And that's what I do. It's just something.

696
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.800
I intentionally just, I connect with in the spirit and send it.

697
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:06.440
And I know this works.

698
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:10.440
I was at that conference, you know, that inner is rest conference.

699
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:12.920
And do you remember, well, I didn't know if you remember, but if you don't

700
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.920
remember, you at least saw it again on the video where I was walking

701
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:20.720
around during the exercises, what I was doing, and I'd never done this before.

702
00:55:21.600 --> 00:55:23.840
I stood at front during the very first exercise.

703
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:26.880
I stood at front for a while and I thought, you know what I'm feeling

704
00:55:27.240 --> 00:55:29.200
like I should walk around the room.

705
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:32.400
And instead of standing up here, I should walk around the room.

706
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:36.720
And I've overcome in these areas that I'm incurred, at least to, you

707
00:55:36.720 --> 00:55:38.320
know, the degree that I was teaching it.

708
00:55:38.680 --> 00:55:41.320
I've overcome in the, to the, to a degree.

709
00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:43.920
And I, that means that I have the authority to gift it.

710
00:55:44.680 --> 00:55:46.720
I have the authority to impart it.

711
00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:48.280
Now they have to receive it.

712
00:55:48.520 --> 00:55:52.880
They have to do all of that, but I can, I can make the way easier for them.

713
00:55:53.160 --> 00:55:59.640
So I started walking around and in my spirit, I would push out the, um, what

714
00:55:59.640 --> 00:56:03.640
it is that I had overcome, you know, and what it is that, you know, in my

715
00:56:03.640 --> 00:56:07.200
faith and all of that, uh, meaning like my faith in the Lord, et cetera.

716
00:56:07.200 --> 00:56:10.920
And I would just push it, push all of that out and love the Lord and being,

717
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:13.280
being, being able to receive the love of the Lord, all of that.

718
00:56:13.520 --> 00:56:17.600
So to walk around the end of the conference, there was a young man who

719
00:56:17.600 --> 00:56:21.560
was there, who told me, uh, who came up at the end and he said, Ashley said,

720
00:56:21.560 --> 00:56:26.320
you remember three days ago when you did that, he said, I've always seen in

721
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:29.320
the spirit with my eyes open, but I've never gotten to see in the spirit with

722
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:31.200
my eyes closed and I've always wanted to.

723
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:35.200
He said, so he said, and I finally did this conference.

724
00:56:35.200 --> 00:56:38.520
He said, I had my eyes closed and you were walking around the room.

725
00:56:38.720 --> 00:56:43.440
He said, with my eyes closed, I could see you walking up the aisle towards me.

726
00:56:44.200 --> 00:56:46.520
He said, I could see your spirit, man.

727
00:56:46.520 --> 00:56:50.160
He said, there were a few times while you were standing up front, I could

728
00:56:50.160 --> 00:56:52.120
see your spirit man behind you.

729
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:54.120
And I was like, well, that's really cool.

730
00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:59.800
But anyway, so he said, I saw, he said, I saw your spirit man walking towards me.

731
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:04.760
He said, and then I, he said, and he said, I saw you again with my eyes

732
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:07.440
closed, walk up around back and behind me.

733
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:11.920
He said, it's as if the eyes of my spirit or whatever could turn around

734
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:14.000
in the back of my head and I can watch you.

735
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:15.040
He said it was wild.

736
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:19.080
And he said that he was seeing my spirit, man.

737
00:57:19.080 --> 00:57:24.400
He said, and then Ashley, when you walked by, he said, I felt this force hit me.

738
00:57:25.160 --> 00:57:26.680
And I was like, that is so cool.

739
00:57:26.680 --> 00:57:27.480
So it worked.

740
00:57:30.120 --> 00:57:31.480
It was totally by faith.

741
00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:33.440
It was just like, I think that this works.

742
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:34.880
It feels like it's working.

743
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:40.240
I feel like my spirit doing it, but I had a nation from someone who had no

744
00:57:40.240 --> 00:57:45.560
idea that that's what I was trying to tell me, this is what I experienced.

745
00:57:45.600 --> 00:57:49.120
You walked by and there was this force that hit me.

746
00:57:50.080 --> 00:57:51.240
Well, I know it works.

747
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:52.640
So that's cool.

748
00:57:52.680 --> 00:57:54.200
Well, you know, there's two things that came up.

749
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:57.600
Sometimes I just feel kind of a burden on me, like a burden today.

750
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:02.040
Like almost was almost a burden coming on me today because trying to get this

751
00:58:02.040 --> 00:58:05.400
wire done and figuring out if this girl's for real, if she really has this

752
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:08.760
money, cause we don't have confirmation that she's going to have $300,000

753
00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:13.160
tomorrow to buy this home and I'm getting all these calls, but I kept

754
00:58:13.160 --> 00:58:16.880
shifting into, I kept saying, you know, just kind of, I released this to you,

755
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:21.360
Lord, this is not mine, but I've, I've, I've had this thing in my life where

756
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:25.920
I've carried burdens, like, I feel like, and that's part of the thing where some

757
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:31.160
of the, the thing I went through with Oaks Rising was there was something in

758
00:58:31.160 --> 00:58:34.240
my DNA or something that I felt like I had to be the linchpin.

759
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:35.840
Yeah.

760
00:58:36.120 --> 00:58:36.400
Yeah.

761
00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:41.200
And so, so there's just like this burden, like with, you know, with Ken, you know,

762
00:58:41.600 --> 00:58:45.200
you know, you know, there's just a kind of, kind of a burden that I, you know, I

763
00:58:45.200 --> 00:58:49.800
got to help him, you know, with the house and I got to help him and it's like, no.

764
00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:54.360
So if you have anything to speak to, to that and then, and then also one thing,

765
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:57.920
it was at one conference, I don't think it was yours, but maybe, do we ever get

766
00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:01.200
up in a line together and look at each other and do an, do an exercise or

767
00:59:01.200 --> 00:59:02.320
was that a different conference?

768
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:08.760
No, that was Chris Blackaby's conference that he did with Kirby and with Nancy.

769
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:09.840
And I don't remember.

770
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:11.040
Oh, I know what it was.

771
00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:12.240
It was one.

772
00:59:12.240 --> 00:59:16.880
It was a couple of people that, um, uh, the Mooney's, uh, Michael Mooney and

773
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:21.560
Jessica, it was, she's not a Mooney, but she is his assistant and they were

774
00:59:21.560 --> 00:59:23.880
walking us through an exercise and we faced each other.

775
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:24.200
Yeah.

776
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:24.960
You were there.

777
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:25.360
Weren't you?

778
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:26.080
You were there.

779
00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:30.800
I remember a guy, a black guy from California and he came up and he just

780
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:32.600
goes, and I'm still, he's a life coach.

781
00:59:32.600 --> 00:59:34.000
He's on Richard Johnson.

782
00:59:35.040 --> 00:59:37.480
He came up and he goes, what is your name?

783
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:41.400
And he goes, you put out the most awesome energy.

784
00:59:42.080 --> 00:59:45.600
And, uh, yeah, I've always felt that on you, Karen.

785
00:59:45.600 --> 00:59:48.880
I've never thought to tell you that because I've never, I've

786
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:50.760
never articulated that to myself.

787
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:55.120
But yes, it's very, uh, you know, your outside matches your inside.

788
00:59:55.120 --> 01:00:00.040
You have a lot of, there's a lot of color inside you in the energy.

789
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.720
that you send out and then it matches, obviously the colors that you wear, but anyway, that

790
01:00:04.720 --> 01:00:05.720
is so cool.

791
01:00:05.720 --> 01:00:06.720
Yeah.

792
01:00:06.720 --> 01:00:08.400
I can, I attest and I affirm, I testify.

793
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:09.400
Thank you.

794
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:12.320
Cause he said that to me, no one's ever said that to me.

795
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:16.960
He's like, like, man, he goes, I just, um, I just wanted to, I just wanted to get your

796
01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:17.960
name and be near you.

797
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:21.960
It's just like this awesome energy.

798
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:25.960
And um, I do kind of feel like sometimes that I just carry love.

799
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:26.960
Yeah.

800
01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:33.500
He said that, um, but anyway, so yeah, yeah, Richard.

801
01:00:33.500 --> 01:00:34.500
So yeah.

802
01:00:34.500 --> 01:00:35.500
Thank you.

803
01:00:35.500 --> 01:00:39.200
And so something about, they saw my insides were like that outside.

804
01:00:39.200 --> 01:00:42.800
Someone said that to me, not too long, but the colors I wear and stuff.

805
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:43.800
So yeah.

806
01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:47.680
But anything, anything else you can speak to me about that, if I get about not, if that

807
01:00:47.680 --> 01:00:52.880
burden tries to come on me or carrying burdens for others or anything, yeah.

808
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:58.440
Remember that, uh, uh, that God is always responsible for the outcome.

809
01:00:58.440 --> 01:00:59.560
And here's what I mean.

810
01:00:59.560 --> 01:01:04.000
I know that we keep saying that, but I always try if someone doesn't get it to rephrase

811
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:06.080
it in a different way.

812
01:01:06.080 --> 01:01:14.440
So there, that with an outcome comes this, uh, that we, meaning like our typical interaction

813
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:19.320
with outcomes, like say for instance, uh, this, uh, what are you trying to do that you're

814
01:01:19.320 --> 01:01:20.320
trying to get the bank loan?

815
01:01:20.720 --> 01:01:21.720
What are you trying to do?

816
01:01:21.720 --> 01:01:26.080
Um, is that, is that what you outcome or what's the outcome?

817
01:01:26.080 --> 01:01:27.080
Yes.

818
01:01:27.080 --> 01:01:29.000
Trying to get, trying to get this deal to go through tomorrow.

819
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:30.000
Trying to get, yeah.

820
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:33.400
The D the wire to come in, the wire to come in on that.

821
01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:37.880
And then, and also the appraisal to, to work out on the other deal that just came, I got

822
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:38.880
all this stuff today.

823
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:43.000
Just my first phone call this morning was, Oh, our appraisal didn't, didn't come in as

824
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:44.000
suppose.

825
01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:45.360
And we don't even know how low it is.

826
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:46.360
Yeah.

827
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:47.360
Yeah.

828
01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:48.360
That's my first phone call.

829
01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:49.360
Oh, I'm sorry.

830
01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:52.440
So think of any of those, like say for instance, you know, this whole thing coming through

831
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:55.120
or just like the wire transferred or whatever.

832
01:01:55.120 --> 01:01:56.640
So any of those are outcomes.

833
01:01:56.640 --> 01:02:01.960
And we think, okay, even though we know that it's out of our control, there's an element

834
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:04.740
of it in which we feel a weight.

835
01:02:04.740 --> 01:02:05.960
That weight is not ours.

836
01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:10.360
That weight means that we've taken something on because operating with the Lord should

837
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:13.200
not have a weight on it.

838
01:02:13.200 --> 01:02:14.200
All of that.

839
01:02:14.200 --> 01:02:15.200
Remember his yoke is easy.

840
01:02:15.200 --> 01:02:18.140
His burden is like, we're supposed to give everything to him.

841
01:02:18.140 --> 01:02:21.980
So if we're feeling burden, if we're feeling a weight in what it is that we're doing, it

842
01:02:21.980 --> 01:02:27.380
means that there's some aspect of the outcome that we're feeling responsible for and we're

843
01:02:27.380 --> 01:02:28.700
carrying.

844
01:02:28.700 --> 01:02:33.340
So what all we're supposed to do is if you feel a burden or a weight, just know, okay,

845
01:02:33.340 --> 01:02:34.340
that's not mine.

846
01:02:34.340 --> 01:02:41.660
It means that I'm taking some kind of a, of a responsibility for what happens.

847
01:02:41.660 --> 01:02:44.260
And I'm not responsible for what happened.

848
01:02:44.260 --> 01:02:47.580
I don't carry the responsibility of what happens.

849
01:02:47.580 --> 01:02:49.900
I just partner with the Lord.

850
01:02:49.900 --> 01:02:50.900
Give it to him.

851
01:02:50.900 --> 01:02:52.980
No, like in other words, I stopped carrying it.

852
01:02:52.980 --> 01:02:55.540
It's not like it's our, we give it to him.

853
01:02:55.540 --> 01:03:02.420
It means stop taking it because it was never ours to begin with.

854
01:03:02.420 --> 01:03:06.300
It seems to imply that we owned it at one time.

855
01:03:06.300 --> 01:03:09.620
No, we never own it, but we somehow take it on.

856
01:03:09.620 --> 01:03:10.620
So that's my thing.

857
01:03:10.620 --> 01:03:15.340
So that's why I don't like to say, give it to God, because that means that we associated

858
01:03:15.340 --> 01:03:18.540
with like, it belonged to me and I'm like passing the buck.

859
01:03:18.540 --> 01:03:19.980
No, no, no, no.

860
01:03:19.980 --> 01:03:20.980
It's not ours.

861
01:03:20.980 --> 01:03:25.020
So what, what I always recommend is if you feel anything negative, like you feel, you

862
01:03:25.020 --> 01:03:30.340
know, fear, you know, weight, burden, responsibility, whatever, just remember, okay, apparently

863
01:03:30.340 --> 01:03:32.460
I'm taking on responsibility for your outcome.

864
01:03:32.460 --> 01:03:33.460
Okay.

865
01:03:33.460 --> 01:03:34.860
God outcome is yours.

866
01:03:34.860 --> 01:03:36.140
And so it's not mine.

867
01:03:36.140 --> 01:03:40.480
I'm completely absolved of all responsibility.

868
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:46.280
So now that I'm completely resolved to absolved of all responsibility, okay, God, now I just

869
01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:49.580
get to do the actions because God, you can do this.

870
01:03:49.580 --> 01:03:53.800
You could do this deal without me, or you could have somebody else do the deal, but

871
01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:54.800
right.

872
01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:55.800
Right.

873
01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:56.800
Who gets to be involved.

874
01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:59.200
That's what you were being involved in.

875
01:03:59.200 --> 01:04:05.120
You're partnering with God in agreement towards whatever outcome that he's going to determine.

876
01:04:05.120 --> 01:04:06.120
That's all you're doing.

877
01:04:06.120 --> 01:04:08.840
And you don't know what outcome that is.

878
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:12.400
So you don't know what you're agreement with other than the fact that God and his will

879
01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:14.400
and his word be done.

880
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:19.320
And you're standing with him saying, yes, Lord, that will happen.

881
01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:22.840
Whatever the will is, you know, whatever the will happen will happen.

882
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:25.320
Whatever the will is, Lord, it'll happen.

883
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:26.320
Yeah.

884
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:27.480
And so that's what that is.

885
01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:32.240
So that whole letting go is remembering and living in rest means that you live without

886
01:04:32.240 --> 01:04:35.800
the burden, the weight and the responsibility of the outcome.

887
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:36.800
So that's what.

888
01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:37.800
Yeah.

889
01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:38.800
Thank you.

890
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:39.800
Yeah.

891
01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:46.120
And today make the easier said than done, but you make the choice that God carries the

892
01:04:46.120 --> 01:04:53.640
heavy stuff and you get to, you get all of the benefit without any of any of the responsibility.

893
01:04:53.640 --> 01:04:54.920
You get to be a part of it.

894
01:04:54.920 --> 01:05:00.000
You get to co-create, you get to partner without carrying any of the burden of it.

895
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:06.540
it without caring for responsibility. I mean, it's the best of both. It's the best of everything.

896
01:05:06.540 --> 01:05:10.500
You won't be lazy. People keep thinking, Oh, if I don't feel the burden, the weight and

897
01:05:10.500 --> 01:05:16.860
the responsibility hard enough or fast focus, because if you relieve yourself of the burden,

898
01:05:16.860 --> 01:05:21.620
weight and the responsibility, you default back to your natural state, which is a son

899
01:05:21.620 --> 01:05:27.220
of God who acts like his father and look at all he does. He just doesn't do it for pressure

900
01:05:27.220 --> 01:05:33.840
or obligation. So you're going to be work operating now faster, meaning like you're

901
01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:38.240
going to get more done because he's going to get it done because now you get to enjoy

902
01:05:38.240 --> 01:05:44.240
the action without being weighed down by all of these burdens that you're dragging with

903
01:05:44.240 --> 01:05:49.400
you that, that slow the process down. So anyway, that's good. That's good. I kind of felt that

904
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:53.240
today. I kept releasing it. I'm like, this is not my burden. That appraisal is not my

905
01:05:53.340 --> 01:05:58.380
burden. Yeah. You know, these taxes aren't my burden. Yeah. These, you know, although,

906
01:05:58.380 --> 01:06:02.020
and yet this noticing too, how do I speak to this, this sinus thing that comes up every

907
01:06:02.020 --> 01:06:07.100
once in a while? I mean, I, my sinuses are healing. Cause I, I take some homeopathic

908
01:06:07.100 --> 01:06:12.360
and stuff, but everyone will have a day like this where it's still, what's a good way to,

909
01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.860
to deal with that. The same way that I was talking about, like

910
01:06:15.860 --> 01:06:21.300
talking to Lucy, you know, you talk to yourself and you talk to your body and then you say,

911
01:06:21.300 --> 01:06:26.960
you know, just, uh, uh, I recommend going to the supportive teachings that I had and

912
01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:32.480
then looking at the ones, um, how to approach spirit, soul, and body or something like that.

913
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:36.880
It's just a little bitty article slash prayer. You know, in other words, you're, you're,

914
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:39.840
you're, it's not prayer. Cause you're not talking to the Lord, but you're talking to

915
01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:44.800
your soul and your body. And that just kind of short, it just kind of gives you some ideas,

916
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:50.920
but you're doing is you understand and approach your body and complete unconditional love

917
01:06:51.540 --> 01:06:56.500
and acceptance so that it feels safe with you and no longer feels like it has like it's

918
01:06:56.500 --> 01:07:00.700
under threat by the world, which is what has caused sinus infection.

919
01:07:00.700 --> 01:07:07.220
It feels under threat that it has to succumb to the natural physical laws that are coming,

920
01:07:07.220 --> 01:07:12.060
that are, that have caused it because what's happened is it is following natural laws.

921
01:07:12.060 --> 01:07:17.860
So the thing is that Jesus's body didn't have to succumb to natural laws when it was, um,

922
01:07:18.040 --> 01:07:23.720
when he was resurrected, he could walk through walls, he could eat or he could not eat. He could

923
01:07:23.720 --> 01:07:28.840
do whatever it is he wanted and wasn't subject to it. And that's what we want to teach our bodies

924
01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:33.080
is that, Hey, you're perfectly safe. You don't have to protect yourself. You know,

925
01:07:35.560 --> 01:07:41.720
rule creation, you're not subject to creation. So anyway, that's what I, that's what, um, how I

926
01:07:41.720 --> 01:07:47.400
do it. And I just release my body from, from ever being different and from even ever having to get

927
01:07:47.420 --> 01:07:54.460
rid of this sinus thing, because it has to feel totally safe with me and to, and, and that, that

928
01:07:54.460 --> 01:08:03.100
I really am so non-threatened by what's coming against it. So it can learn it's not threatened

929
01:08:03.100 --> 01:08:08.380
and it can learn that it's whole, it can learn that it's healed. And then also just really quickly

930
01:08:08.380 --> 01:08:14.700
is, is that we always approach things from the perspective, not that, okay, Lord, I'm hoping for

931
01:08:14.720 --> 01:08:20.399
healing. I'm asking for healing. I'm wanting healing, but rather from the perspective of start

932
01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:28.240
the, uh, started at the, at the beginning of like, of like ex expecting that your prayers are already

933
01:08:28.240 --> 01:08:35.439
answered and that you're already older, you're already healed and feel it. Like really, truly

934
01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:42.240
feel your nose being cleared and that your nose is clear. And, and then just go about it. It's

935
01:08:42.819 --> 01:08:49.620
expecting the, expecting the truth and the reality of what God says. You're not denying the reality

936
01:08:49.620 --> 01:08:55.300
of this earth. All you're doing is you're choosing a higher one. So eventually your body will come

937
01:08:55.300 --> 01:09:01.779
into alignment with the higher reality that you've chosen. That's good. That's good. And you

938
01:09:01.779 --> 01:09:07.620
can't do that denying that you're sick or denying that your son isn't like that because that's not

939
01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:12.359
going to help anything. Yeah. You have to acknowledge both truths, but choose this one

940
01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:19.800
instead of this one. Yeah. Right. One more thing is what do I do with like at the conference a

941
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:25.080
couple of times, I think what came in is I felt like I wanted to control the situation with Ken,

942
01:09:25.080 --> 01:09:30.920
you know, I'm like, you know, do you want, you know, sit over here there, you know, there there's

943
01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:36.279
a seat over here. So I was like trying to control it. Cause I felt like, you know, I needed, I

944
01:09:36.300 --> 01:09:42.939
needed to, you know, sit here, you know, cause, um, whatever. So, but I think I was trying to

945
01:09:42.939 --> 01:09:49.660
control it is what I realized later trying to control it. And I'm like, yeah, that doesn't

946
01:09:49.660 --> 01:09:55.500
serve me. That doesn't serve anything. Well, correct. And the reason why we control is because

947
01:09:55.500 --> 01:09:59.940
we're afraid, um, we're feeling insecure or whatever. So find your secure.

948
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:04.500
where you're always going to want it to be, which is between you and the Lord, remembering

949
01:10:04.500 --> 01:10:11.220
who it is you are, etc. Also, what might be in there is the fact that you might be trying

950
01:10:11.220 --> 01:10:17.740
and maybe not, but maybe it's just other situations that that you would have done this, but trying

951
01:10:17.740 --> 01:10:22.940
to take care of him, like make sure that he knows. And so you can just remember as long

952
01:10:22.940 --> 01:10:28.560
as you stay open and inviting in general, like in a, in a, in a, in a spirit of open

953
01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:36.580
invitation, he, as a, as a grown man will do what he wants to do instead of, you know,

954
01:10:36.580 --> 01:10:42.220
so if he, he knew that he could sit by you and you know, you choose not to. So in other

955
01:10:42.220 --> 01:10:47.620
words, you're just like, okay, let him do him. But me, that makes me feel very uncomfortable.

956
01:10:47.620 --> 01:10:53.340
So if instead of trying to control what he's doing in order to create an environment to

957
01:10:53.340 --> 01:10:58.940
create your own security, choose to get your security from the Lord, and then push that

958
01:10:58.940 --> 01:11:03.380
out into your environment. Instead of trying to suck it from your environment to create

959
01:11:03.380 --> 01:11:11.980
your security. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. From the Lord and then push out and give it to creation.

960
01:11:11.980 --> 01:11:15.300
Creation doesn't have what you need. You have what creation needs.

961
01:11:16.140 --> 01:11:19.620
That's good. Creation doesn't have what you need. You have a creation needs. Yeah. It's

962
01:11:19.620 --> 01:11:25.580
kind of like last night at that meeting. That's good. There was a chair that, that, you know,

963
01:11:25.580 --> 01:11:30.500
could have been open for Ken, but someone else took it. And then they're like, oh, and

964
01:11:30.620 --> 01:11:33.900
were you saving that for Ken? I can bring another chair. And I said, no, when Ken gets

965
01:11:33.900 --> 01:11:38.220
there, or he may have already been there. I said, he'll sit where he wants to sit. And

966
01:11:38.220 --> 01:11:41.460
so I just told, don't even put a seat there for Ken. Cause he'll sit where he wants to

967
01:11:41.460 --> 01:11:49.060
sit. Yeah, that's a great because you released it. And he sat down at the other end and that

968
01:11:49.060 --> 01:11:57.260
was fine. He said he, he, he can choose. And it was like, it's all good. Yeah. So I didn't

969
01:11:57.260 --> 01:12:05.100
try to, I didn't try to control. So I did that, didn't I? Yes. Yeah, exactly. And so

970
01:12:05.100 --> 01:12:11.340
I'm so glad that you're noticing and acknowledging these things that you've, how you've released

971
01:12:11.340 --> 01:12:15.700
things, how you've let things go, you know, you know, meaning like you're stepping into

972
01:12:15.700 --> 01:12:21.180
it, you're choosing, Hey, this is who I am between me and God. This is the, this is who,

973
01:12:21.180 --> 01:12:23.740
this is the life, you know, that I choose, you know,

974
01:12:23.740 --> 01:12:30.060
Yeah. It was kind of funny though. Cause then Dwight came in the last question and answers

975
01:12:30.060 --> 01:12:38.340
and sat by me and he goes, why is Ken way back there? You know? So I said, well, I guess

976
01:12:38.340 --> 01:12:43.100
cause he chose to sit back there, you know? Yeah. I don't know. You know, and with Dwight,

977
01:12:43.100 --> 01:12:47.500
I can just, you know, Dwight's like, I call him my little brother at this. And I think

978
01:12:47.500 --> 01:12:52.420
one time Ken was a little, I don't know what it was when, when we were first met and we

979
01:12:52.420 --> 01:12:56.700
got married, he said, you, you act a little different when you're around Dwight. And I

980
01:12:56.700 --> 01:13:01.740
said, wait, I said, well, Dwight's everybody acts different when they're around Dwight.

981
01:13:01.740 --> 01:13:05.380
No, I didn't say, I said, well, Dwight's like my brother. I call him my little brother.

982
01:13:05.380 --> 01:13:09.260
So you, you act a little different around your brother. Yeah. Yeah. You know? And then

983
01:13:09.260 --> 01:13:14.980
it wasn't good. And then he got a little jealous one time around Keith lemon who kid who Shelly

984
01:13:14.980 --> 01:13:19.100
is one of my best. Shelly's one of my best friends. We still talk every week cause they

985
01:13:19.100 --> 01:13:25.940
moved for Arizona for now. Yeah. And yeah, moving back to Oklahoma soon. So there'll

986
01:13:25.940 --> 01:13:30.820
be closer. But anyway, but Keith is Keith when, after we met for a while, he's like,

987
01:13:30.820 --> 01:13:35.260
you know, you're my sister. I never had. So he's my other brother. I'm not close to my

988
01:13:36.140 --> 01:13:39.380
brother. I'm in the natural. So, you know, I don't know if Keith kissed me on the cheek

989
01:13:39.380 --> 01:13:46.700
one day or something and Ken and Ken really. And I'm like, Ben, Keith is my, like my brother.

990
01:13:46.700 --> 01:13:53.220
He is. So there was something, something in there that needed healed because anyway, so

991
01:13:53.220 --> 01:13:58.340
I've just, but it's, but it was kind of odd because then it was like, it was almost like

992
01:13:58.340 --> 01:14:02.260
Ken was pushing my friends away a little, me, me away from my friends. It seemed like,

993
01:14:02.260 --> 01:14:08.900
so that brought, that brought a little bit of a wedge and then he, and they made the

994
01:14:08.900 --> 01:14:14.540
comment about Dwight. So I'm glad to see he was hanging out with Dwight a little bit.

995
01:14:14.540 --> 01:14:19.340
That's good. So maybe, yeah. And when Keith, you know, but I felt kind of awkward then

996
01:14:19.340 --> 01:14:23.100
around Shelly and Keith, you know, they used to come over and play cards with us and eat

997
01:14:23.100 --> 01:14:29.380
with us. And then I felt a little awkward. Yeah. So how do you handle that? How do you

998
01:14:29.380 --> 01:14:36.500
handle that? So, I don't know. I mean, I don't know, I'm kind of, I don't know, nothing's

999
01:14:36.500 --> 01:14:41.780
coming to me at the moment. I mean, cause obviously that's just some stuff with, I mean,

1000
01:14:41.780 --> 01:14:45.420
it's important, obviously when we're married to always interact with somebody, the opposite

1001
01:14:45.420 --> 01:14:51.140
sex with, you know, the appropriateness and then, and then every couple just decides what

1002
01:14:51.140 --> 01:14:55.680
that level of appropriateness is. Yeah. And I mean, I think Shelly was, yeah, Shelly was

1003
01:14:55.680 --> 01:15:00.000
right there with us, you know, Shelly. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. But my point is like.

1004
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:05.100
If he thinks, if, if, uh, if Ken thinks that it's inappropriate,

1005
01:15:05.140 --> 01:15:07.580
and then the two of you just kind of decide, well, apparently, you know,

1006
01:15:07.580 --> 01:15:10.860
for us, you know, we're going to do this, but not this.

1007
01:15:11.140 --> 01:15:16.100
And then Keith and Shelley are perfectly fine with it, but you and Ken, what it

1008
01:15:16.100 --> 01:15:20.080
is that y'all decided as a couple, I've decided, okay, to draw a line somewhere

1009
01:15:20.080 --> 01:15:25.420
that maybe you don't have an issue with, but that he does to honor him as like

1010
01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:31.060
your, your husband, but it can be like a discussion and, and all of that.

1011
01:15:31.060 --> 01:15:38.660
But I mean, ultimately he just feels, uh, he just feels, um, uh, uh, I can't

1012
01:15:38.660 --> 01:15:43.120
think of the word that I was going to use, but anyway, somehow, um, not in

1013
01:15:43.240 --> 01:15:46.120
NAF or, or kind of slide it as a, as a husband.

1014
01:15:46.440 --> 01:15:50.760
So I'm not saying that there's any reason for it or that you

1015
01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:52.080
did something that was wrong.

1016
01:15:52.080 --> 01:15:56.380
I'm saying him in his background, in his way of interpreting

1017
01:15:56.380 --> 01:15:59.060
things is saying that to him.

1018
01:15:59.280 --> 01:16:04.060
And so that's just everybody's individual determination about

1019
01:16:04.060 --> 01:16:05.160
what they, as a couple do.

1020
01:16:05.820 --> 01:16:08.200
Me and me and my husband were very different.

1021
01:16:08.200 --> 01:16:12.220
And the fact that, um, I knew that he, uh, he has it, what

1022
01:16:12.220 --> 01:16:13.500
we call a ministry of hugs.

1023
01:16:13.900 --> 01:16:16.460
And so he just hugs people all of the time.

1024
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:21.880
I mean, he hugs me and he hugs me, you know, and whatever, because that was his,

1025
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:25.540
that was his ministry is like with all of these young students, these, uh,

1026
01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:27.380
they were, um, college students.

1027
01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:30.860
They were university, uh, uh, Morningstar university students.

1028
01:16:31.200 --> 01:16:35.820
They would all come to him, especially the, especially the girls, because to

1029
01:16:35.820 --> 01:16:37.780
him, he was like this father figure.

1030
01:16:38.160 --> 01:16:41.860
And so to some of them, he was healing their hearts from things that they

1031
01:16:41.860 --> 01:16:47.780
didn't receive from their fathers or that they had there at college or

1032
01:16:47.780 --> 01:16:50.800
there at university, because they were, they were going through some

1033
01:16:50.860 --> 01:16:53.760
Transitions and they didn't have their father around.

1034
01:16:54.020 --> 01:16:56.400
And so they would kind of like that.

1035
01:16:56.680 --> 01:17:01.560
So for me, just knowing that that's, you know, because of my background, I was

1036
01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:05.980
okay with that and Ed's fine with me hugging in and I'm fine with hugging

1037
01:17:06.200 --> 01:17:08.000
because we both know each other.

1038
01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:10.360
And because of our backgrounds, we're both like, that's fine.

1039
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:15.740
But there are, there are people that, because I remember one thing that we did,

1040
01:17:15.740 --> 01:17:20.600
I went to go, I went to see somebody one time and not by myself, but I

1041
01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:24.080
went to go see somebody one time in somebody and Ed wasn't with me.

1042
01:17:24.360 --> 01:17:28.600
And then this other man got very upset at Ed because he let me go by myself.

1043
01:17:29.320 --> 01:17:32.300
And so Ed and I are going, why?

1044
01:17:32.620 --> 01:17:35.980
Well, according to this guy, he felt that it was inappropriate and bold.

1045
01:17:35.980 --> 01:17:39.640
And I go, no, according to all the methods of propriety, everything was

1046
01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:41.120
taken care of, she was never alone.

1047
01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:47.480
It was like, she had an old longstanding friendship with this other person that

1048
01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:54.120
was stronger before she and Ed, before she and Ed got married anyway, so seeing

1049
01:17:54.120 --> 01:17:57.920
it one way and this man was seeing it another, so what we had to determine

1050
01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:01.640
between ourselves is okay, what do we think is appropriate?

1051
01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:04.880
Is it something that we didn't think was inappropriate, but somebody else

1052
01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:09.640
is drawing attention to it that we need to pay attention to and we need to change.

1053
01:18:10.040 --> 01:18:14.960
So my point is that everybody has a different idea of where the loss is, but

1054
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:20.200
the important thing is you and Ken before the, before the Lord, what, what

1055
01:18:20.200 --> 01:18:25.840
do y'all together, the three of y'all decide is appropriate and it may not

1056
01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:30.320
always match what each other, like you might not agree with Ken, he might not

1057
01:18:30.320 --> 01:18:35.640
agree with you and I don't agree on that kind of stuff, you know, we just kind

1058
01:18:35.640 --> 01:18:37.120
of decide, okay, well, what are we going to do?

1059
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:38.080
So anyway.

1060
01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:39.200
Yeah.

1061
01:18:39.440 --> 01:18:39.920
Okay.

1062
01:18:40.360 --> 01:18:40.720
Yeah.

1063
01:18:40.800 --> 01:18:41.400
And yeah, yeah.

1064
01:18:41.480 --> 01:18:44.600
And then, you know, then, and there lies another thing that maybe I can speak

1065
01:18:44.600 --> 01:18:48.000
to, I don't know, is it's hard to communicate and ask him questions

1066
01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:50.560
because of that whole really want to.

1067
01:18:52.320 --> 01:18:56.680
Um, there's times we can communicate, but there's times it's just

1068
01:18:56.680 --> 01:18:58.000
really hard to communicate with him.

1069
01:19:00.320 --> 01:19:00.600
Yeah.

1070
01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:05.080
Part of it is that that are his healing and that time that his daughter was

1071
01:19:05.080 --> 01:19:10.320
talking about is because when you're having a hard time communicating with

1072
01:19:10.320 --> 01:19:14.240
somebody, I mean, yeah, there's our own thing of like, what are we communicating

1073
01:19:14.280 --> 01:19:18.600
what's our tone and whatever, but communication is a two way street.

1074
01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:20.600
It's also the person who's hearing.

1075
01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:24.840
And so, you know, there's only, you can't, you know, control that.

1076
01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:28.280
And, and so, I mean, obviously marriage counseling is always very helpful for

1077
01:19:28.280 --> 01:19:33.200
that because it kind of like is a third party that's like, yeah, through it.

1078
01:19:33.400 --> 01:19:38.520
But, um, I know that y'all have, I know that y'all either have or would try it if

1079
01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:44.040
you could, and so my point is that that's helpful for that, that anyway.

1080
01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:52.160
So I don't know, because there's nothing that a spouse can do if the other spouse

1081
01:19:52.200 --> 01:19:58.440
isn't letting us, because again, that communication, like, you know, you have

1082
01:19:58.440 --> 01:20:00.040
to, we worked on from both sides.

1083
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:07.120
lives. And so you just do what you can, you pray and ask the Lord to heal him and, and

1084
01:20:07.120 --> 01:20:10.600
whatever. And then as far as like physical things you can do. And so it was like marriage

1085
01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:15.040
counseling, that's very helpful for communication, whatever, but there's not really anything

1086
01:20:15.040 --> 01:20:22.160
that we can do other than, you know, like as far as like convince them, change their

1087
01:20:22.160 --> 01:20:30.000
minds, help them understand. There's just, we just have to pray and ask the Lord.

1088
01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:35.360
Yeah. And I don't know if I, if I told you that when we first got back together, he agreed,

1089
01:20:35.360 --> 01:20:39.360
he agreed, we both agreed we wanted to do whatever it took to make it work. And he agreed

1090
01:20:39.360 --> 01:20:43.560
to do dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. And then that started falling away. And so it's kind

1091
01:20:43.560 --> 01:20:47.960
of hard to do with that. Cause, cause if I bring it up, I'm, I'm controlling if I bring

1092
01:20:47.960 --> 01:20:54.600
it up. So that's so that we are, we do have some difficult hurdles. Yeah. Yeah, I know.

1093
01:20:54.600 --> 01:21:00.280
I know. And I'm sorry about that, but it looks like y'all have made good, uh, good progress.

1094
01:21:00.280 --> 01:21:05.640
And, and so that's wonderful, you know, just being open and loving and accepting of whoever

1095
01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:11.280
it is that they are and what they're wanting to give us, you know, give and what they're

1096
01:21:11.280 --> 01:21:18.400
wanting to give us is really big, powerful and life and changing of them and us. And,

1097
01:21:18.400 --> 01:21:24.200
um, so that at least gets things, um, things started and just like anything, the outcome

1098
01:21:24.200 --> 01:21:31.720
isn't up to us. Isn't we're not responsible for the outcome. God is even so. Yeah. So

1099
01:21:31.720 --> 01:21:38.840
okay. Any other advice on that? Honestly, it's all I can think of at the moment. Um,

1100
01:21:39.480 --> 01:21:44.280
I mean, there are others who might think of, you know, something that I haven't also, there

1101
01:21:44.280 --> 01:21:49.720
are others who've been married longer, you know, than, than I have my, me and my little

1102
01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:53.960
eight and a half months. Um, is it even eight and a half? I think it's eight and a half months.

1103
01:21:55.960 --> 01:22:02.360
Um, so, but anyway, um, and like I said, um, the biggest thing is the same way that I've

1104
01:22:02.360 --> 01:22:06.760
talked about dealing with other people, like, uh, like I've had to deal with, like what I

1105
01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:12.600
always refer to as the professional workplace bully and whatever that I, that I struggled with

1106
01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:18.760
is just, um, doing what we talked about at the beginning of this, uh, this session, which is,

1107
01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:22.760
you know, talking to their soul and their body and letting them know that the way that they're

1108
01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:30.120
acting out is just, I mean, understanding and receiving fully accepting and being a safe place

1109
01:22:30.120 --> 01:22:37.320
for their, their soul and their body and just, and just, um, letting them know that the, that the,

1110
01:22:37.320 --> 01:22:44.520
that the fears that they have are based off of beliefs that they're not good enough or that

1111
01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:49.480
they've been abandoned or whatever. And then just speak to that and just saying, Hey, oh, also

1112
01:22:49.480 --> 01:22:53.960
another thing that's really not, um, that I don't recommend is when you're talking to a solar body,

1113
01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:59.720
including your own is to not use negatives. I'm like, Hey, don't be like this. And no,

1114
01:22:59.720 --> 01:23:05.080
this isn't true. And don't, you know, you know, you're, you're not abandoned and you're not alone.

1115
01:23:05.080 --> 01:23:10.120
You're not whatever. I find that not very effective and very helpful. Instead. I always

1116
01:23:10.120 --> 01:23:17.160
speak to the positive, you know, that, Hey, you know, you're loved, you're protected your, you

1117
01:23:17.160 --> 01:23:22.440
know, and affirming, thank you for having done what you, what you had to do or felt that you

1118
01:23:22.440 --> 01:23:27.000
had to do in order to protect yourself in order to protect me or in order to protect Lucy or in

1119
01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:31.880
order to, you know, to do whatever, to always affirm what it is that they did because they

1120
01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:36.600
were doing it because they thought that they, they were trying to do the right thing. They were

1121
01:23:36.600 --> 01:23:40.520
trying to do the good thing. They were trying to protect, they were trying to look after,

1122
01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:45.560
they were trying to provide for, they were trying to whatever, and trying to keep safe,

1123
01:23:46.440 --> 01:23:53.320
trying to keep secure, trying to create balance, trying to preserve. And in my, what is that called?

1124
01:23:53.400 --> 01:24:01.800
Um, uh, you know, our, our, uh, really strong tendency that God put in us to survive survival

1125
01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:05.880
instinct. That's what I'm talking about. Very strong survival instinct. All of those things

1126
01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:11.800
are very, very good. The problem is that they're doing them from a place of they're doing them

1127
01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:17.400
instead of resting in the spirit to do them for them. They're thinking that they have to take it

1128
01:24:17.400 --> 01:24:23.240
on themselves and they weren't equipped, uh, or created to have to do that. And so they weren't

1129
01:24:23.240 --> 01:24:28.040
equipped to be able to effectively do it either. So they can, and that's a big burden that they

1130
01:24:28.040 --> 01:24:32.760
have to carry. So, Hey, you can relieve yourself with that and you no longer have to have that.

1131
01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:38.440
And so just let that go. Always talking in the positive makes a huge difference. Whether you're

1132
01:24:38.440 --> 01:24:43.480
talking to a person's soul or body or the person standing there and you're, and you're like pouring

1133
01:24:43.480 --> 01:24:47.480
into them, it's best to not talk in negatives about what they shouldn't do. You shouldn't be

1134
01:24:47.480 --> 01:24:52.280
believing this. You shouldn't be doing this. You shouldn't, you know, um, even if we mean to

1135
01:24:52.280 --> 01:24:59.560
encourage them, it's it ends up what they hear is that they're not good enough. They're not doing

1136
01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:00.060
enough.

1137
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:05.000
They're, they're whatever they don't hear it as freeing.

1138
01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:09.200
They hear it as I've done something wrong see because they're hearing don't do what

1139
01:25:09.200 --> 01:25:13.320
you're doing, whatever it is you're doing that you're identifying with, stop it.

1140
01:25:13.320 --> 01:25:14.320
Don't do it.

1141
01:25:14.320 --> 01:25:20.380
They, they, they're identifying it with it and so if you say, don't do like I'm bad.

1142
01:25:20.380 --> 01:25:24.760
That is what they hire that's what that's what freedom they hone in on.

1143
01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:25.760
Right.

1144
01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:33.800
That's what Ken always says I'm not bad he thinks I if I say anything I'm saying he's

1145
01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:34.800
bad.

1146
01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:37.160
He says that a lot.

1147
01:25:37.160 --> 01:25:40.040
That is very normal for men.

1148
01:25:40.040 --> 01:25:41.820
That is how men interpret things.

1149
01:25:41.820 --> 01:25:46.640
When we tell them things, you know when we meaning women, women tell them things they

1150
01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:54.660
interpreted it as that they're bad, that they themselves are not good enough that yeah that's

1151
01:25:54.660 --> 01:25:58.060
really what it boils down to that they themselves are not good enough.

1152
01:25:58.060 --> 01:26:00.580
And you're, and you're going, that's not what I'm saying at all.

1153
01:26:00.580 --> 01:26:01.580
I just said, could you do this.

1154
01:26:01.580 --> 01:26:02.580
Didn't do that.

1155
01:26:02.580 --> 01:26:03.580
So you're saying a bit.

1156
01:26:03.580 --> 01:26:04.580
No.

1157
01:26:04.580 --> 01:26:05.580
Right.

1158
01:26:05.580 --> 01:26:16.780
But that's not just men, it's normal human behavior, but men have a very strong tendency

1159
01:26:16.780 --> 01:26:23.500
to do that more so than women, but that's also why women have a tendency to struggle

1160
01:26:23.500 --> 01:26:29.540
more with that performance, because they're focused so much on the doing so they can disassociate

1161
01:26:29.540 --> 01:26:34.260
a bit more from who they are from what they do that men can't, what they do is who they

1162
01:26:34.260 --> 01:26:35.340
are.

1163
01:26:35.340 --> 01:26:38.220
That's why they're associating with their career or why they're associating with the

1164
01:26:38.220 --> 01:26:42.020
fact that you're telling them they didn't take out the trash, or why whatever it's always

1165
01:26:42.020 --> 01:26:45.660
they are what they do and don't do.

1166
01:26:45.660 --> 01:26:51.820
And so anyway, it's, it's, yeah, it's a, it's very, that's a, it's a human thing, but

1167
01:26:51.820 --> 01:26:59.380
it's a very male, male, and I don't want to say male dominated and thing, but it's a,

1168
01:26:59.380 --> 01:27:06.780
it's something that men very strongly deal with.

1169
01:27:06.780 --> 01:27:12.600
Well it was good to get to this point with you, Karen, I'm so excited for you and everything

1170
01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:19.440
it is that you've chosen in the Lord, I cannot tell you how much that I have enjoyed watching,

1171
01:27:19.440 --> 01:27:23.360
you know, you, you decide this is what you want between you and the Lord and you doing

1172
01:27:23.360 --> 01:27:24.360
it.

1173
01:27:24.360 --> 01:27:29.340
You didn't just say, oh, I want this and oh, I'm trying, you did the hard stuff.

1174
01:27:29.340 --> 01:27:32.680
So I'm excited for you because you didn't make it.

1175
01:27:32.680 --> 01:27:37.520
You get the aspect that you, you get the aspect of God, you receive the aspect of God that

1176
01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:38.520
you agree with.

1177
01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:39.520
So,

1178
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:40.520
Amen.

1179
01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:41.520
Yeah, that's good.

1180
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:42.520
That's good.

1181
01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:43.520
That's good.

1182
01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:44.520
And then will you send this recording?

1183
01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:45.520
Yes.

1184
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:46.520
It'll be on the thing.

1185
01:27:46.520 --> 01:27:47.520
It'll be on there.

1186
01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:48.520
Platform.

1187
01:27:48.520 --> 01:27:49.520
Yeah.

1188
01:27:49.520 --> 01:27:50.520
You saw your other one on the platform, right?

1189
01:27:50.520 --> 01:27:51.520
Yes.

1190
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:52.520
Okay.

1191
01:27:52.520 --> 01:27:53.520
So they saw it.

1192
01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:54.520
I did there.

1193
01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:55.520
Okay.

1194
01:27:55.520 --> 01:27:56.520
I didn't open it, but I saw it.

1195
01:27:56.520 --> 01:27:57.520
Yeah.

1196
01:27:57.520 --> 01:27:58.520
Yeah.

1197
01:27:58.520 --> 01:27:59.520
I haven't got to watch it yet.

1198
01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:00.520
It's going to be there too.

1199
01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:01.520
Yeah.

1200
01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:02.520
Okay.

1201
01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:03.520
All right.

1202
01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:04.520
And the, and you do private sessions if I ever would want one.

1203
01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:05.520
Yeah.

1204
01:28:05.520 --> 01:28:06.520
Yes, I do.

1205
01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:07.520
Okay.

1206
01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:10.520
Would you just message you or go on your site?

1207
01:28:11.520 --> 01:28:14.520
I actually don't have a way to do it on the site right now.

1208
01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:15.520
So you would just message.

1209
01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:16.520
Yeah.

1210
01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:17.520
I'd love to get it.

1211
01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:21.520
Side at some point, but currently my schedule is just a kind of,

1212
01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:24.520
is a rather flexible. So I normally.

1213
01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:28.520
I don't have any like set.

1214
01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:31.520
Hours that I have set aside for transformation sessions.

1215
01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:32.520
So, but anyway.

1216
01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:35.520
Okay. Then how much do you charge for those?

1217
01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:39.520
So I've been charging 200. It's about to go up.

1218
01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:43.520
So, but yeah, I've been charging 200 for the past about a year.

1219
01:28:43.520 --> 01:28:44.520
So, yeah.

1220
01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:45.520
Okay.

1221
01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:46.520
Okay.

1222
01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:47.520
And oh, by the way.

1223
01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:49.520
That.

1224
01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:50.520
Is that he says.

1225
01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:55.520
He was wonderful.

1226
01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:56.520
Wasn't he good. I'm so glad.

1227
01:28:56.520 --> 01:28:57.520
Yeah.

1228
01:28:57.520 --> 01:28:58.520
Yeah. He's very.

1229
01:28:58.520 --> 01:29:07.520
It's very solid. He is a father.

1230
01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:10.520
I don't know if he's just this anchor. He's just a rock.

1231
01:29:10.520 --> 01:29:13.520
So he is.

1232
01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:16.520
His wife is a joy and I got to have lunch with them.

1233
01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:19.520
The last day.

1234
01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:20.520
I mean, we, yeah.

1235
01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:23.520
So he told us a little more of his testimony and they're, they're cool.

1236
01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:24.520
Our testimony together and yeah.

1237
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:25.520
He's yeah. They're they're just great.

1238
01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:28.520
They are. Yeah.

1239
01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:29.520
We both really.

1240
01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:31.520
Enjoy them. They're very special. So yeah.

1241
01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:32.520
Yeah.

1242
01:29:32.520 --> 01:29:33.520
All right.

1243
01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:34.520
Okay.

1244
01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:35.520
Good to see you, Carrie.

1245
01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:37.520
Thank you, sweetie. Okay.

1246
01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:38.520
All right.

1247
01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:39.520
Okay.

1248
01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:40.520
Bye-bye.