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Hi.

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Hi.

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Is it?

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I think you're frozen.

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How are you?

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I'm good.

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Your picture is frozen.

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Yeah.

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I was noticing as well.

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It might be my reception.

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I don't know.

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I just turned off my Wi-Fi to only use cellular, so maybe that'll help.

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Is that better so far?

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Let me think.

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No, but I think I actually don't have a lot of...

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Let me see.

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Let me try this.

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Let me try...

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No.

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Are you there?

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Hello?

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Yeah, can you hear me?

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Let's see. Oh, it says that you've got one bar.

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Can you hear me?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. So far, I think it's better.

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This is better because I think the reception in the other room.

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I'm not at.

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Home. I'm at my sister's place.

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It's a fall break in Norway.

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Well, this seems to be a lot better. Yeah.

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I think I'm okay.

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Well, you see.

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Where are you originally from?

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Because you speak perfect English with like an American accent.

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Well, I'm a I'm from, I was born in South Korea.

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But I came, I was adopted. So I came when I was one years old.

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Five years. I think I was with youth.

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Youth with emissions.

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Uh-huh.

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Yeah. So it was with them for five years.

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So that's probably okay.

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Yeah. Okay. Well, cause I was just so confused.

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I thought, well,

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she didn't look like she's from Norway and she doesn't sound like

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she's.

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I'm like.

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No, no. I'm.

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I consider myself full Norwegian. I lived here all my life.

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But my parents are white, tall Norwegians.

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Me and my sister. We're both adopted from Korea.

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Oh, okay. Great.

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We're doll. Are y'all biological sisters?

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No, we're not.

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Different families, different cities in Korea.

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Oh, fascinating.

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I have always been fascinated by Korea.

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I learned Korean for a while. I don't know very much.

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Just because I was so fascinated by it.

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I actually grew up in Turkey.

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In the middle East and.

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From the time I was 11 to 18 years old. So anyway, I have a very,

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I have a big fascination with them.

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You know, the world and other countries.

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And can always easily relate to people.

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You know, that live other places,

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even if I've never lived in Norway or lived in Korea or whatever,

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it's just like.

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You know,

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it's just such a great culture to be able to, you know,

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just appreciate.

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versus the states or whatever.

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Different ways of thinking,

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different ways of socially interacting or whatever.

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So anyway.

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Yeah, that's true.

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It's like, it's different

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when people have actually experienced it.

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Yeah.

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So it's good to finally get to meet together.

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I mean, I know that we did a,

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we did the No Shame conference before I got to see you there,

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but we didn't get to visit or anything.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So, yeah.

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Well, what would you like to catch me up on

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so that I just kind of know, you know,

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where it is that you're coming from or, you know,

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your background or you'd like me to know.

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I thought I could tell,

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share like my life story really quickly.

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Try to. Oh yeah, that'd be great.

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Just because I think maybe it is important

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to understand where I'm at right now.

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Like I grew up in a very healthy Christian home.

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I received Jesus first time when I was three

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and was really conscious about it when I was 11.

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Like followed Jesus my whole life.

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Went into missions when I was 18, moved to Hawaii.

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And yeah, that was,

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and then I really,

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I was brought up in a kind of a little bit

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conservative home background.

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So then I met with YOM when I was 14,

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I experienced more of the Holy Spirit

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and I knew, oh, this is what I want.

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Like I met people on fire for God

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and I'd never met youth that were in love with Jesus.

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And I knew that's what I've been waiting

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for all my childhood.

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So, and then I was 18.

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So I knew I wanted to go into missions.

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Then I went to Hawaii and I fell in love with Jesus.

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Like really, yeah, just, yeah.

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Just met, really met Jesus for the first time

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and fell in love with him and nothing else mattered.

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And it totally transformed my life.

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So, and also experienced God's presence

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and learned how to call on his presence

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that it would just come into the room

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or I could just invite him and he would come anywhere.

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And also he started to deal with adoption issues,

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with sin in my life.

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I needed to turn from things just like ask for forgiveness

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and let go of things in my life and like make big decisions.

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So it was like, so for some years I was doing that

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and missions was really good,

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but it was also very, a bit unhealthy back in the nineties.

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This was back in the nineties.

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So we weren't, so I think I also developed

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some wounds from there.

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And when I was 23 years old,

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so I was a person with a very, like a above average energy,

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a lot of work ethic and very Korean discipline

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in my relationship.

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It was wild how that rendered in the G-lysis.

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Going 120 in my work, I would do 120%.

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Like I would be like all in or nothing.

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And then when I was 23, I burnt out like so badly

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to the point where I got very, very sick

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and I had to step out of ministry,

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step out of work and school and everything.

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And it just led me into a huge crisis with God

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because then I've been given years of my life to missions

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and I'd follow Jesus wholeheartedly my whole life.

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And I couldn't understand why I would,

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like why I would lose everything.

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And so that happened then.

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And what happened that was worse than the burnout

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and left my body, like I would just cry.

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I couldn't function really,

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but was the worst was that he left me.

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Like, I don't know if you heard about

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the dark night of the soul.

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I've heard of it.

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Yeah, it was just like kind of, I don't know.

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Like he, it felt like he just withdrew

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his whole presence from me.

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And that was like, and for years,

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my soul was in a state of just darkness.

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Like I didn't, like nothing in the Bible made sense.

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I had to stop reading the Bible, worship, speaking,

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like nothing, I didn't feel him.

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Like it was like he left and it just traumatized me

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because he was my best friend.

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He was my husband.

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He was like everything to me.

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And then I, after a year, I felt like he said,

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because I had been like desperately calling for him

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to see me and to understand me.

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And then I felt like he said,

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I want you to see into my world.

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Like let go of your world and I will show you my world.

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And then I said yes to that.

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And then everything kind of started to change.

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And I realized that I, for 23 years had been.

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kind of going on my own and hadn't really invited people in,

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like I was living. I just kind of thought it's me and God. And

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we can live life together. And I didn't really depend on other

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people. It was just God. So he showed me how to invite people

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in and to be vulnerable, and that I needed other people. And

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he had created me for fellowship. There was a lot of

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like healing that took place and also physical and mental

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healing. But I didn't get better. So after about seven

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years, well, I get better, and then I got worse and better and

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worse. And then the doctor said to me that she was sorry, they

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hadn't taken me seriously enough, they were going to do a

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full checkup and everything. I went through lots of tests,

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physically, mentally. And they gave me an ADHD diagnosis. And I

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was diagnosed with depression and anxiety. And it still

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didn't get better. And then I was through counseling, and a

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counselor asked Jesus that he would reveal where this came

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from, or that he would, like, leave it hidden. And then I felt

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that Jesus revealed to me that it was the first year of

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adoption before I came into before I was adopted. That had

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Yeah, this, of course, is like a longer story. But the short

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version is that it was the first living year. And then I went

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back to that. And I talked to my parents about it. And I've been

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to I grew up first year in two orphanages and different kinds

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of centers. And in Korea, at that time, they had this view

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that kids shouldn't adjust, they shouldn't attach. So they

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sent kids around like packages. And then they understood, of

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course, that this is horrible. We are missing the children, and

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they stopped. But I was one of the few children during that

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time. Yeah, so I realized over years, then I have like really

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deep attachment disorder, trauma. Yeah, it took like 12

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years to start working on it. And, and it was a series of

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events that led me to it. And then I read books, and I got in

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contact. And then finally, I got to a place where I would cycle

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why with very good shrinks and psychologists, doctors started

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to heal and focus on the attachment disorder. And

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through, so it's like, and now it's 19 and a half years later.

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And I've gone to shrink for five years, very, very good, solid

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help. I've gone through lots of counseling, deliverance. I've

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searched. I searched Jesus for 20 years for healing, and he's

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done like a massive work in me. It's kind of like I explained to

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my friend that it was like, that this is like what the devil

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stole from me. And then over the 20 last years, God has given

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this back. And then he's given me all this, like so many more

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things that I didn't ask for, like, he's just blew my mind and

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changed me and transformed me and used me massively. So he's

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given me like, so much more than I could ever ask for. But

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there's still this part. Yeah, there's still like, I still

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live in, like, I have a very meaningful, rich life, and God

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uses me and I am in a healthy, healthy job, healthy environment.

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And I have loving family and friends around me. And that I'm

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seeking the Lord with. But I'm in a lot of even after 20 years,

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I'm in a lot of anxiety. And time, times depression. I still

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think I have ADHD. And I still so nine years ago, my dad died.

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So what happened then, because before that, even though I was

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sick, I could always cry, I always had tears. So I could

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always grieve and get the exam. And when my dad died, it was

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like, it was like a lake froze over. And like all my emotions

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kind of like my body, I could feel my body go like this. Yeah.

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And since then, for the last nine years, I've, I've rarely

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been able to cry. It was like, the tearful stuff, because I was

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so attached to my dad, probably even more, even especially since

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I was adopted. So he when I came as a one year old, he was the

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first one that I really attached.

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even more than my mom.

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And we've most of the time

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had a really good, healthy relationship.

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So it traumatized me and shocked me

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and I spiraled down really fast.

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And so I spent years coming up from that

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out of a very heavy depression,

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but I still haven't,

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I still don't really cry anymore very often,

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or I don't feel safe anymore.

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Like my dad was my roof,

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the walls in my house and the floor.

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So when he left,

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I felt like I was without protection, without shelter.

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And then suddenly I was afraid of being alone.

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I've always been very independent,

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loved being alone, very active,

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putting myself to work.

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Suddenly I stopped functioning alone.

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I felt unsafe and like I struggled to be alone.

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So since the last nine years,

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it's like God has been on the other side

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of like a glass wall most of the time.

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And I can't cry and I can't feel his love

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and I don't feel safe.

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I don't wanna be alone.

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And I'm living in lots of anxiety

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and kind of my life is living in faith,

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which it sounds kind of like weird

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because I live in faith because I do a lot of things.

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Like if you knew me and you didn't know this,

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you'd never notice.

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And you'd never like most of my friends

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see like the strong side.

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I really contribute to things around me

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and I'm very, I'm pretty resourceful.

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But Isabella, can you look at the camera?

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Please, Olo, can you look at the camera?

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Yeah, that's why I look at the camera.

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So, but most, so, but they don't know

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that I do this in faith.

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Like I need faith sometimes to go to work.

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I need faith to get me through the day.

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Like, I'm like, I, sometimes it's been so bad.

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I'm like, I don't know how to get up,

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but I'll have faith to get to the bathroom.

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And then I get to the bathroom and then my day starts.

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Or like, I actually don't have strength to go.

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And if I'm asked to do a testimony in my church,

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like I don't have it in me, but I do it in faith.

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And then I do it.

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And then God uses it.

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So it's like living in constant weakness,

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living in constant faith in a way.

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So then you also see a lot of miracles,

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but it's also exhausting because it's-

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Correct, that's what I was gonna say.

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You're probably tired.

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Probably very exhausted.

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So I kind of thought that I,

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because there's so much good in my life

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and I've been so healed, I kind of thought that,

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okay, maybe I just need to accept this,

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that my life will be like this

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because it's so rich and meaningful.

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And I'll just have to live in anxiety.

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It's just a part of the package.

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I was damaged one year old.

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And for some reason, shrinks can't heal it.

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And even counseling and prayers can't heal it.

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So, and then, but I kind of,

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when I heard your, I listened to your teaching this summer.

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Yeah, and then I kind of,

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and then also, of course,

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there are things that happens in life that makes it harder.

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Like I suddenly, because,

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probably because of stress over 20 years,

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my system has been a little bit down.

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So I got an ear infection, which led to tinnitus.

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And then that became a huge health problem.

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And I've been seeking a clinic for this

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and paid lots of money and kind of in a way,

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partly living in with sound

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that you don't want to be there.

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And the audiograph and pedagogues think it might be,

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because usually ear infection won't give you tinnitus,

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that they said that since your body

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has physically been in stress for 20 years,

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then your system probably is very prone to react.

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And it was maybe that that caused like bad tinnitus.

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So that happened, that's just life and or part of this.

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And then another part is like,

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I met a man that I wanted to marry and it didn't work out.

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And then that plays into the whole rejection wound.

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That's part of the grief and sorrow that I'm feeling.

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So some of it is like 20 year old and my first year,

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but some of it is like.

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Tinnitus is a year old health problem

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and the broken heart is like a few months ago.

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A few months, I was gonna ask when that was, yeah.

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So it's kind of hard to know what is what

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and the situation is that I have been living in a lot of,

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so sometimes you don't know what came first,

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the hen or the egg.

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I don't know if you have that expression.

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Me too, yeah.

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Yeah, you have the same expression as we do.

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So I don't know what came first or what causes what.

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I just know that I kind of feel in that hopeless

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because like I've tried everything

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and when I say everything, it's like-

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I'm sure.

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I've tried everything I've been in,

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like I don't even, yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I've had multiple people come to me and tell me,

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including by the way, and I can tell you this

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because you're in the rest intensive

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and you could see this testimony,

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including my own sister who has said that

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because you know how it is with family.

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It's like, oh, you're doing that thing.

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I'm so happy for you.

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That's great.

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But for them to actually buy into you helping them

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or know something that they don't know

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is a little challenging.

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So anyway, she finally got to the point

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where she was so desperate.

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And I think that she just,

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I started like pouring into her instant

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when she was telling me the things she was struggling with

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and whatever, that she finally started hearing hope in it.

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And so she finally decided to listen to what it is that,

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you know, to one of my, you know,

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to my teachings about rest and whatever.

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And it completely changed her.

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And what she says, and I've had at least one other person

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tell me the same thing,

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that they have been to multiple counseling sessions.

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They've been to like Celebrate Recovery.

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They've been,

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I don't know if you know what Celebrate Recovery is.

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I don't know if it's over there.

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So anyway, it's this organization here in the States

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that helps people who are either dealing with like

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addictions or major mental and emotional health issues,

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that kind of thing.

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And I think it's a Christian organization anyway.

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So it's a big thing.

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It's almost like group therapy.

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She went to that, very big, very well known.

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So in other words, it's known for being successful.

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And that wasn't how it wasn't dealing with it.

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And then she's even been to deliverance sessions

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and that wasn't fixing it.

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And she said that when she learned about rest in the Lord,

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in other words, the power of the gospel

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and finally claimed it, she said that finally worked.

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So, you know, the Lord has their own journey,

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has his own journey for everyone.

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I just wanted to give you encouragement

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that there've been other people before you

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that have tried everything and every bit of it

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either didn't work or it would just work a little bit

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but it wouldn't actually fix the root issue or whatever.

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But then they found healing in learning about rest

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because rest is basically is what God has saved us into,

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which is that unification with Christ,

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where there's now, we no longer have to provide for

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and protect ourselves and strive really hard

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in order to accomplish any outcomes in our life,

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heal ourselves, make something happen, you know, whatever,

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that we just release ourselves to allow him to do it.

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And therefore, that's why it's called rest

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is there's nothing left for us to do and to work for.

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And they said, finally, when they let God,

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when they stopped trying

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and they actually released it to God,

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not just simply stop trying, that won't work.

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You have to actually give it to God

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for him to do something with it.

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Then suddenly things can start breaking off

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and breaking through.

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And anyway, you know, he has his own process

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for every person.

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I mean, like I just watched a lady be delivered

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as a very oppressive demon that had been messing with her

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for literally, I think her whole life, decades.

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She was an SRA, you know, satanic ritual abuse victim.

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And anyway, so I just watched her being delivered

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miraculously on Sunday.

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So, and that was because someone had a word for her

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and then laid his hand on her and then boom, it came out.

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So things can happen very dramatically

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where it's not, you know, talking about rest

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and all of that.

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So my point is that it's,

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God has his own journey for everyone.

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And what that looks.

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like and what different modalities or tools are that he uses to help them. So I'm not saying that

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that everyone and that that everyone that learns about rest and whatever it just like fixes

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everything and etc. It does have the power to fix everything but the thing is that God sometimes

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uses other elements in our journey to help us as well but the point is that it can that shifting

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into rest can start breaking things that other things weren't breaking and part of it and it's

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because it changes the position from which we are approaching God in faith and that is the

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basis of everything. That's the basis of our relationship with God is our faith in him.

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In other words do we choose him and do we believe what he says or not because it says without faith

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we can't please God. He just he's just like I just want to be believed that's all that I ask.

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I don't ask for you to work for me. I don't ask for you to you know quote unquote you know obey me.

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I ask for you to believe me. If you believe me then there's all of these things that come out

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as a result including obey me etc. So I just wanted to give you that encouragement is there

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are people that have walked this before you and the reason that it works that way is because

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that is like I keep saying that is the gospel. If this is what God saved us into is to be able is

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that is he saved us from the oppression and the slavery of having to work for our outcome because

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God says that you know anything that you work for out of the flesh in other words anything that you

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have to do on your own will only lead to death. So that's why we were slaves to death. There was no

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other there was no other option for us and so God said but if if I buy you at a price then I buy you

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from being a slave to death. You're no longer a slave to death and what that gives us the option

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to do now is it gives us the option of being a son of God. He just takes care of things for us

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and when the Lord does anything it's only done in spirit and in life. So anyway that's why that and

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that's the gospel and so that's what that's what rest is and that's why when I talk about rest and

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we can honestly use a lot of different words to describe what it is that I teach and use the word

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as rest. So a lot of people sort of teach what I teach but they just teach it in a different way

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and they just use different words. So it really doesn't matter what words we use what we have

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to understand is we have to claim the power of the gospel. We have to claim what it is that God

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truly did when he saved us and he says hey look you're no longer have to take care of yourself

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you no longer have to strive and to fight and to sweat on your own in order for good

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things to happen in your life in order for you to be healed whatever he said if you just believe me

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and I say that I'll take care of you if you just believe me then I will take care of you.

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00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.640
I'll take care of you as a response to the fact that you believe me

516
00:28:34.320 --> 00:28:38.560
then and then you know obviously you're at rest you're no longer having to strive and

517
00:28:38.560 --> 00:28:44.560
sweat for it so that just learning about inclining the power of the gospel which is

518
00:28:44.560 --> 00:28:51.040
just the fact that you know we're at rest and we no longer are slaves to our sweat that leads to

519
00:28:51.040 --> 00:28:56.880
death that will automatically start breaking off things that other things other modalities

520
00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:01.600
haven't been able to break off it's because it's changing the position from which we are

521
00:29:01.600 --> 00:29:07.040
approaching our relationship with God which is Lord now I'm going to believe you and if I believe

522
00:29:07.040 --> 00:29:12.960
you this is how I therefore will act because if we believe that God's going to take care of us

523
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:16.720
we're going to act very differently than if we believe that God won't take care of us

524
00:29:17.760 --> 00:29:23.200
so everything changes when we when we actually choose to have faith and where so when I talk

525
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:28.960
a lot about rest one of the really big things that I talk about is faith how to have faith

526
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:36.800
how to choose the Lord etc because then we get to receive rest we get to receive the benefits

527
00:29:36.800 --> 00:29:41.520
of our inheritance we have to believe it in order to receive it because he's already given it

528
00:29:42.320 --> 00:29:49.680
so another encouraging thing is you're already there so you're already in rest it's just that

529
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:58.880
you that it's just that we don't know it we're not we don't believe it we're not aware of it whatever

530
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:05.760
And God, see, the thing is that if God gives us the gift, it's just like anything else when we

531
00:30:05.760 --> 00:30:11.840
receive a, when we are given a gift, we have to receive it in order to, you know, to benefit from

532
00:30:11.840 --> 00:30:17.360
it. So I've heard someone describe it like kind of like a, like an app on your phone. There's all

533
00:30:17.360 --> 00:30:22.320
those apps that we have access to, but unless we use it, we don't get to benefit from it. It can

534
00:30:22.320 --> 00:30:28.880
just sit on our phone all we want, you know, but we were given it, but if we don't interact with it,

535
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:33.600
if we don't, if we don't use it, we don't get to benefit from it. And it's the same thing between

536
00:30:33.600 --> 00:30:40.400
us and the Lord. So he's given us everything that we need. He's given us including, including

537
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:47.440
healing, you know, inner healing, physical healing. He's given us, you know, peace and joy and love

538
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:53.680
and all of the fruits of the spirit. Those are gifts that he's given to us and we don't,

539
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:59.520
and we're not waiting for them. There's nothing left that we have to do in order to get it. We

540
00:30:59.520 --> 00:31:05.840
already have it. We're already there, but if we're not agreeing with it, if we're not believing that

541
00:31:05.840 --> 00:31:11.760
we have it, if we're not interacting with it, well, then our lives don't get to benefit from it.

542
00:31:11.760 --> 00:31:17.920
They don't get to benefit from feeling peace or feeling joy or being patient or whatever

543
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:24.080
because it's just sitting there and we're not believing it and interacting with it. So anyway,

544
00:31:24.080 --> 00:31:30.560
the point is that everything comes down to having a foundation down to the foundation

545
00:31:31.520 --> 00:31:37.520
faith. But the thing is, like I said, you already have it. So you already have the victory.

546
00:31:38.080 --> 00:31:44.960
You're already there. So there's not something that you're going to be obtaining. It's not

547
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:49.520
something that you don't have that you've got to try to bring towards you, or you've got to work

548
00:31:49.520 --> 00:31:56.240
for, or that you've got to be enough for, or that you have to figure out. In fact, it's rest is your

549
00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:04.080
default state. So it's who you naturally are as a new man, as a new creature, because your old man

550
00:32:04.080 --> 00:32:09.520
died. We can act like it all we want and it doesn't make us the old man. You know, Paul talked

551
00:32:09.520 --> 00:32:14.560
about that. He said, you know, why are you acting like the old man if he's dead? So we can act like

552
00:32:14.560 --> 00:32:20.640
it all we want, but it doesn't make us the old man. We are the new man. We are new creature.

553
00:32:21.280 --> 00:32:27.760
And that new man was created in Christ. Christ is uncorrupted, therefore, and he has nothing

554
00:32:27.760 --> 00:32:32.800
corrupt within him. And therefore, if our new man is in Christ, and he can have nothing corrupt in

555
00:32:32.800 --> 00:32:39.760
him, it means that there's nothing corrupt about us, which is the new man. And therefore, you're,

556
00:32:39.760 --> 00:32:44.880
you're perfect. There's nothing wrong with you. You know, who it is that you are in your spirit

557
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:50.320
is that is the new man. That's the part of you that's joined with Christ. So you already are

558
00:32:50.320 --> 00:32:56.960
those things. You already have the victory. So all, so like what I was saying, everything that

559
00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:01.920
God talks about in the, in the Bible, specifically the new Testament, all of the things that it's

560
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:09.600
that we always took as, Oh, he's urging us to have this or to become this or to be more patient

561
00:33:09.600 --> 00:33:16.160
or to be more loving or to whatever he was, those are actually things that we already are.

562
00:33:17.120 --> 00:33:24.240
But he's inviting us to it in trying to mature us into knowing that that is who we are. So that

563
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:34.320
will start. So that will believe it and start acting like it. And when, so in order to access,

564
00:33:34.320 --> 00:33:40.080
say for instance, rest or joy or, and all the other benefits, healing, et cetera,

565
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:47.680
we actually have to stop what we're currently doing. So that will return to our default state.

566
00:33:49.280 --> 00:33:55.840
So you're not going to be working for, you know, your faith. You're not going to be working for

567
00:33:55.840 --> 00:34:02.720
rest. You're not going to be working for love and joy and trying really hard. What I teach people

568
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:12.080
is to learn is to, is how to stop trying so that they just go to their default state because our,

569
00:34:12.080 --> 00:34:20.000
our habit has been to always work really hard for everything in the world. And so we translate that

570
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:25.040
into how we interact in the kingdom. We think we have to work really hard for that too. We have to

571
00:34:25.040 --> 00:34:30.960
think I'm not it yet because I don't see it in my life. So therefore I must work really hard to get

572
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:36.000
it because they know you don't see it in your life because you don't believe that I've already

573
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:43.120
given it to you. So basically what we have to do is if it's our default state and we're not reflecting

574
00:34:43.120 --> 00:34:49.199
it, it means that we're resisting our default state. So think about your default state. It's

575
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:54.719
very natural, very normal. It's very natural because it's your default, right? So if you're

576
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:59.840
not acting normal and you're not acting natural, it means that you have to

577
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:07.920
put forth a lot of work and a lot of effort. In order to fight the natural. In order to

578
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:13.040
fight your fault, your default state, your default state is very natural, very easy,

579
00:35:13.040 --> 00:35:19.120
very effortless. So if we're not acting like our default state and our natural state,

580
00:35:19.120 --> 00:35:24.720
it means that we're in resistance, active resistance against it. That's why I keep

581
00:35:24.720 --> 00:35:31.120
saying we have, I teach people how to stop trying because they're trying is resisting it.

582
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.640
So if you stop trying, then who it is that you naturally are comes out.

583
00:35:39.680 --> 00:35:45.920
So anyway, I just say all of this to kind of, you know, encourage you that you've already won.

584
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:53.200
This is easy. This is very effortless. We're just not used to things being easy. We're not used to

585
00:35:53.200 --> 00:36:00.880
things being effortless. So we don't know how to, how to receive something effortlessly

586
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:07.280
and easily. We keep trying for it. We keep, we, you know, we keep thinking that there's,

587
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.560
there's something that it requires of me. There's, there's something that it requires of me.

588
00:36:10.560 --> 00:36:14.320
And we keep trying to give it. And God says, no, if you keep trying to give something

589
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:19.200
it or give something in order to get, you won't get it stopped. And so,

590
00:36:19.200 --> 00:36:26.960
but it is so much a habit of our interaction with God is an internal emotional or spiritual,

591
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:35.920
or, you know, soulish striving that, that we don't know how to not do that. And that's actually

592
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:43.520
actively resisting God, because in order for us to receive a gift in the kingdom,

593
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.920
the world doesn't work like this. The kingdom of the world, the principles by which the world

594
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:54.160
works. I just don't, I don't mean just like society. I mean, actually the, the king, the,

595
00:36:54.160 --> 00:36:59.840
the world and how the principles work in the world, you have to give something in order to

596
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:05.840
get something in the, in the kingdom. It's the opposite. If you give it, you can't get it.

597
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:10.800
I mean, sorry. In other words, if you give something in order to get something,

598
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:17.360
you can't get it because it has to be freely given and you have to freely receive it without

599
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:24.640
trying for it, but working for it without, you know, exerting any kind of effort towards it,

600
00:37:24.640 --> 00:37:33.600
without trying in order for you to, in order for you to receive it. So a lot of people, you know,

601
00:37:33.600 --> 00:37:44.640
I find even struggle to, I was telling my husband this yesterday, struggle in to even join the

602
00:37:44.640 --> 00:37:50.640
rust intensive, because they're so it, because the people that it will help the most are people

603
00:37:50.640 --> 00:37:55.760
that are so desperate. They're just, they're at their wit's end. They are burnt out spiritually,

604
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:59.360
emotionally, physically, mentally, whatever. They're just like, I'm just done. You know,

605
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:04.400
I've tried everything or whatever. It works the best for them because they're, they're finally

606
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:14.560
desperate enough to just really start risking what they have to risk in order to have faith

607
00:38:14.560 --> 00:38:22.080
in the Lord. And what I was telling him is the hard part is that people are so, some people are

608
00:38:22.080 --> 00:38:30.160
so burnt out because they're so used to trying for everything so hard that when they hear when

609
00:38:30.160 --> 00:38:35.040
that even though they want rest and all of that, they think in order to have it,

610
00:38:35.040 --> 00:38:38.560
they have to learn something more. They have to do something more. And therefore they have to

611
00:38:38.560 --> 00:38:45.680
exert even more effort in order to heal. And it's the opposite in the rest intensive. It's all about

612
00:38:45.680 --> 00:38:50.880
stopping the working, meaning like stopping the striving, stopping the exertion. That means

613
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:56.800
stopping activity. It doesn't mean stopping our job. It means stopping the sweating in it,

614
00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:03.920
stopping the striving in it. And so anyway, that before we go on to you have,

615
00:39:04.560 --> 00:39:10.880
what are your thoughts or questions? Yeah, I can recognize it. Some of it. And I think the Lord

616
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:18.240
has shown like some of it I am living in like the part where I'm sure that I live in faith,

617
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:24.240
but then there are some parts I don't. So like when you're talking, I'm like,

618
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:30.160
yeah, some of it it's familiar and something I think I'm living in something, but then

619
00:39:30.160 --> 00:39:33.920
something's not. But then I'm like, what am I? I don't know what

620
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:42.000
am I living in? What am I not? And why am I not? Because what God has shown me is that because of

621
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:48.480
sickness, I've been kind of like gotten into control, like to control a lot of things. Yeah,

622
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:56.560
correct. And I've had to survive. So God revealed to me that I need to let go of control. So I

623
00:39:56.560 --> 00:39:59.840
think that's part of it. Why I don't experience full freedom.

624
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.960
That's that I still control things. But then even so he's

625
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:09.280
shown me that and then I have the past year tried to really

626
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:13.960
deal with control issues in my life. But I and also when I read

627
00:40:14.040 --> 00:40:17.800
the Bible, I see so much about suffering there. That I think

628
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:21.040
it's also a theological question for me, you know, to take up the

629
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cross every day and to follow Jesus. There's like so much

630
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about Paul even even just the other day I read about it. Yeah.

631
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And I'm like, what am I not supposed to suffer? The sun and

632
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:35.800
also that God has used my suffering so much in other

633
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:41.160
people's. So then I think it's like, um, it's a partly

634
00:40:41.680 --> 00:40:46.640
theologically, and it's partly like, oh, but I am living it,

635
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:52.080
but I'm not feeling the fruits of it. And yeah, yeah. When you

636
00:40:52.080 --> 00:40:58.280
speak, it's like some of it is familiar, but why am I not? Why

637
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:03.720
am I still in anxiety? But then maybe I am trying too hard to

638
00:41:03.720 --> 00:41:08.000
have faith and to live in it. Because when you said that, but

639
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:15.520
just have faith and do something, do it effortlessly.

640
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:18.800
For me, somehow, that is work.

641
00:41:20.160 --> 00:41:23.200
Which part is what I think the fighting, like, for instance,

642
00:41:23.200 --> 00:41:25.960
like someone says, the other day, someone said, Hey, can you

643
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:29.920
have a testimony at church? And then in myself, I don't want to

644
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:33.560
for many reasons. And I don't want to expose myself. I don't

645
00:41:33.560 --> 00:41:36.960
know if I have what it takes, blah, blah, blah. But then I

646
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:41.320
feel the Spirit is leading me to do it. And also, I think it's

647
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:43.400
good. If you have something to bring to the church, you

648
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:48.760
shouldn't stop it. So then it's like, I feel like I should do

649
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:52.320
it. But it becomes such a big fight. And then I end up doing

650
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:56.320
it in faith. And I get the reward, because of course, when

651
00:41:56.320 --> 00:42:00.200
it was the Spirit, people are blessed, and I'm blessed. But

652
00:42:00.200 --> 00:42:07.320
then still, I go away from that experience with a lot of

653
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:11.760
striving, because to get to the place of surrender, took a lot

654
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:17.040
of stress. And for instance, like, during this rest, like

655
00:42:17.080 --> 00:42:19.720
just like the figuring out if I should do it, if it's the right

656
00:42:19.720 --> 00:42:23.080
timing, do I have time, financial aspect, all these

657
00:42:23.080 --> 00:42:28.960
things, yeah, makes it like stressful leading up to it. And

658
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.920
then I decide to and then I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna do it.

659
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:37.080
Yeah. Yeah. But I, I have a lot of striving until I come to the

660
00:42:37.600 --> 00:42:38.800
faith decision.

661
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:45.520
Correct. Yeah. So that's what I do is I teach people how to

662
00:42:45.560 --> 00:42:52.000
shorten that time in which we struggle and work so hard. And

663
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:54.840
so we finally just do it. Because you understand what

664
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:57.800
helps us finally do it is not the struggle. It's when we

665
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:00.960
finally stop struggling. So we struggle, struggle, struggle,

666
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:03.560
struggle, because we don't want to do it. And so we're fighting,

667
00:43:03.560 --> 00:43:05.440
fighting, fighting. Oh, but I know I shouldn't, shouldn't I?

668
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:09.120
And I think the Lord is calling me or I don't really know. Is

669
00:43:09.120 --> 00:43:12.320
this me? Is this the Lord? And I'm just like, I just can't do

670
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:17.640
it. We finally give up. In other words, we finally let go. So

671
00:43:17.680 --> 00:43:20.320
it's only with rest, it's only with effortlessness that we

672
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:24.200
finally choose the faith at the end. But because we've had so

673
00:43:24.200 --> 00:43:27.680
much of this leading up to it, we think that this is what

674
00:43:27.680 --> 00:43:32.880
enabled us to do that. This was the resistance. This is the part

675
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:37.080
of us that is resisting, resisting, resisting, and that

676
00:43:37.120 --> 00:43:41.880
that we have to learn to stop resisting. And so you can

677
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:48.240
overtime, we learn how to, how to shorten that, how to shorten

678
00:43:48.240 --> 00:43:53.200
that resistance, how to just kind of effortlessly let go. And

679
00:43:53.240 --> 00:43:57.440
that, that, you know, that resistance in us is something

680
00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:01.320
that we want to control things we want to protect ourselves, we

681
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:04.960
want to, you know, we want to provide for ourselves and all of

682
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:10.280
that. And we have to let go of that in order to have this and

683
00:44:10.600 --> 00:44:13.400
and, but we don't want to let go of it. And finally, we just get

684
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:15.600
to the point, okay, look, in order to have that, I have to.

685
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:19.040
Yeah. And we decided to do it. But we go through this whole

686
00:44:19.040 --> 00:44:21.760
struggle of I don't want to. Yeah, I do that all the time.

687
00:44:22.120 --> 00:44:26.680
Yeah. So the faster that we that we just finally just release it

688
00:44:26.680 --> 00:44:30.240
to the Lord, and we just actually let go, the shorter

689
00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:35.640
that that struggle time is. Now, understand, that's because you're

690
00:44:35.640 --> 00:44:39.760
human. This is what we're doing here on this earth, we're

691
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:43.000
actually the sons of God, you know, and according to Romans

692
00:44:43.040 --> 00:44:47.400
eight, are manifesting themselves to creation as the

693
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:51.120
sons of God, we're showing them that that is who we are. And in

694
00:44:51.120 --> 00:44:55.240
order to do that, we have to overcome the flesh, which is

695
00:44:55.240 --> 00:45:00.080
what Jesus did. Even Jesus struggled, even Jesus

696
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.720
suffered, including in the garden of Gethsemane, you know, he, he understands what it's like for

697
00:45:06.720 --> 00:45:12.240
the flesh and the spirit to war against one another. It even warred against one another in

698
00:45:12.240 --> 00:45:18.880
Jesus. But the thing is that he never let the flesh win, which is why he never sinned, because

699
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:24.880
of course, sin is unbelief. And he just never, he just never gave into the flesh, but it doesn't

700
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:33.840
mean it didn't war. In fact, it had to war in him in order for him to overcome. That's how,

701
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:40.960
that's why what he did actually had, actually had the power that it did, you know, meaning

702
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:46.000
like the fact that he saved us and his blood shed on the cross actually had the power to

703
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:53.520
buy us and all of that is because he actually had something that he had to overcome. He was

704
00:45:53.520 --> 00:45:59.760
born into a fleshly body that was subject to corruption. It was subject to death, even though

705
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:06.000
he himself never sinned. The body that he was born into because of the very principles and nature of

706
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:14.160
flesh and of creation, you know, it, it was something that is in resistance against the

707
00:46:14.160 --> 00:46:19.280
spirit. And so what he had to do is he had to choose, you know, between the spirit and the

708
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:24.800
flesh. He always has to choose the spirit when he chooses the spirit, it transformed the flesh.

709
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:31.920
And so when he finally died and then he rose again, his body was transformed and even his body

710
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:38.080
became a spiritual body. It says, you know, Paul talked about, and yet, even though it was a

711
00:46:38.080 --> 00:46:44.960
spiritual body, it was, it was, it could, it was still a body. In other words, it could still eat.

712
00:46:45.680 --> 00:46:52.480
He could still walk. It could still do the things that a body does. And yet it had been, it had,

713
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:58.000
he had overcome the flesh. In other words, he'd overcome the part of the body that had been

714
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:04.000
subject to corruption. So that now it was still a body just like Adam was born into with and created

715
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:08.000
into a body before the fall. There's nothing wrong with our bodies. They're not simple. They're not,

716
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:13.520
they're not a problem, but they are subject to corruption until we overcome. And I'm just using

717
00:47:13.520 --> 00:47:18.720
the body as an example, because it's also the soul, you know, a lot of it, you know, a lot of

718
00:47:18.720 --> 00:47:26.000
our emotions or whatever are in our decisions are a result of the fact that we're, that we're at war,

719
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:31.440
that aspect of ourselves, our soul and our body are at war against the spirit aspect of ourselves.

720
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:37.600
Our spirit believes God, our spirits, one with God, our spirit, sinning man. And it is at war

721
00:47:37.600 --> 00:47:43.040
with our soul and our body. You know, they struggle against one another because our soul

722
00:47:43.040 --> 00:47:49.120
and our body does not trust God and does not trust the spirit, does not think that they're safe

723
00:47:49.120 --> 00:47:54.240
with them. And so what our soul and our body are, and that, that, that, that resistance that I was

724
00:47:54.240 --> 00:47:58.640
talking about, you know, that I want to preserve myself. I want to protect myself. I want to,

725
00:47:59.600 --> 00:48:06.080
I need, I need to, I need the control in order to do that. And that's your soul and your,

726
00:48:06.080 --> 00:48:11.680
and your body doing that. That's the flesh. And what we finally have to choose is no,

727
00:48:11.680 --> 00:48:19.840
I'm going to release myself to the, to be subject to the spirit, to be subject to the Lord

728
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:26.000
and rely on him to protect and provide for me, meaning that I'm giving up my right to do it to

729
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:34.000
myself for myself. But until we give up that struggle, you know, we're, it, it's gonna,

730
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:38.720
it feels, it feels very painful and we're in this constant, you know, state of resistance.

731
00:48:38.720 --> 00:48:43.360
And I said, that's what that is. So my point in going into all of that is to kind of explain

732
00:48:44.560 --> 00:48:50.800
that is the normal part of human existence. Even Jesus did it. In fact, that's why Jesus did it.

733
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:58.000
As he said, this is how to go through it. You know, you, you're going to have these experiences,

734
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:01.680
just like Jesus had the experience or, you know, whenever he asked something of us, he always

735
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.600
shows us as an example. He always goes through it first and actually lives it first. So he said,

736
00:49:07.600 --> 00:49:11.760
Hey, look, I'm going to live this life for you. And I'm going to show you, these are the things

737
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:16.560
that you're going to run into. This is how it's going to feel. And this is the, this is the war

738
00:49:16.560 --> 00:49:21.440
that you fight within yourself. But I'm telling you by example, this is the choice that you need

739
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:28.240
to make. And I will, and I myself will show you that you can make that choice by me having the

740
00:49:28.240 --> 00:49:33.760
victory and making that choice. And so you're not subject to choosing what your flesh wants you to

741
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:42.000
do. God says that it is actually possible. And he proved this by actually doing it for your,

742
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:47.280
your soul, sorry, your soul, your spirit to have the victory and for you to always choose to believe

743
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:53.360
God instead. But yeah, that struggle, that suffering, all of that is the fact that we

744
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:59.840
are born into a, a creation that is currently subjected to frustration. Like it mentioned.

745
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:06.320
in Romans 8 it's currently subjected to death not just physical death but death is in lack

746
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:13.760
is in separation etc and God says you no longer have to live like that if you choose the higher

747
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:17.600
thing if you choose the lower thing and then you're just going to live like that sometimes

748
00:50:17.600 --> 00:50:24.560
you don't know like sometimes it's easy you know what God's telling you to do you just fight him

749
00:50:24.560 --> 00:50:31.040
anyways yeah but then sometimes you just don't know don't know what you don't know what to do

750
00:50:31.040 --> 00:50:40.640
like what is the spirit saying like and yeah but then that is oh yeah well part of that is

751
00:50:40.640 --> 00:50:45.760
you're talking about the things when you know it already you kind of know in your heart what

752
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:50.800
you're supposed to do and then you go through that striving and fight anyways to get to the decision

753
00:50:51.760 --> 00:51:00.960
yeah well yeah sort of that time sort of yeah so one of the things though is that sometimes

754
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:07.600
I don't know why I'm struggling why I'm fighting why I'm anxious whatever and we'll get to this

755
00:51:07.600 --> 00:51:13.760
that I think it's actually the very last session is I talk about I think it's the last session

756
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:24.000
seven that I talk about the the tools that people can use to help them to help them

757
00:51:25.040 --> 00:51:34.400
shift from unrest into rest and incent and you sometimes don't know what it is that you're

758
00:51:36.080 --> 00:51:39.520
in a manner of speaking sometimes you don't know what it is that you're choosing you just

759
00:51:39.520 --> 00:51:43.200
know that you're anxious you just know that you're stressed and you don't know why you're

760
00:51:43.200 --> 00:51:48.720
stressed yeah you're just like look I'm in a perfectly safe situation why on earth am I anxious

761
00:51:48.720 --> 00:51:52.960
why on earth am I stressed about this and then sometimes you do know why you're stressed but a

762
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:58.640
lot of times you don't there's still a way to not live there's still a way to release that anxiety

763
00:51:58.640 --> 00:52:05.440
and to release that stress without knowing what triggered it and like what exactly you're supposed

764
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:10.800
to be quote unquote believing instead you know you don't know what it is that you're believing

765
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:14.960
that's gotten you anxious and stressed in the first place so that's one of the things that I

766
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:23.120
talk about but just just just really quickly one of the things that I explain to people is

767
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:30.160
sometimes people wonder well how do I know if I'm in unrest I'm like well you look for negative

768
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:39.040
negative experience feelings kind of like anything that brings a heaviness inside

769
00:52:39.040 --> 00:52:45.280
kind of like a feeling of oppression or like a wet blanket or you know like the anxiety or stress

770
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:52.960
or etc you know fear a heavy anger not like righteous anger but you know a heavy anger

771
00:52:53.840 --> 00:53:01.760
or whatever and if it's just negative and heavy and weighing then those are things you know those

772
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:06.640
are evidences of the fact that we're in unrest and then we can just know okay well there's something

773
00:53:06.640 --> 00:53:10.880
about you I don't know what it is actually but something about you that I'm not believing

774
00:53:11.520 --> 00:53:17.520
because that's what unrest is unrest is um is a state in which we're not believing God

775
00:53:17.520 --> 00:53:22.640
about something which God says is a sin so anyway we're not believing God about something and that's

776
00:53:22.640 --> 00:53:29.680
why we're stressed and anxious etc so it's like okay then then Lord I don't know what it is

777
00:53:29.680 --> 00:53:34.240
specifically that I'm supposed to be believing about you that I'm not but I do know generally

778
00:53:34.240 --> 00:53:41.120
some things or that I choose that I'm that you protect me I choose that you are my protector

779
00:53:41.120 --> 00:53:47.760
that you are my provider that you are good that you are loved that you're whatever that God is who

780
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:55.440
he says that he is and I choose that and I don't know why I'm stressed I don't know why I'm anxious

781
00:53:56.080 --> 00:54:00.400
but and this is one of the things that I teach people to do and we'll be talking about this is

782
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:06.880
teach people to just let go of the stress and to let go of the anxiety and and it just sounds

783
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:10.800
really easy when we're sitting here talking about it and it's very difficult to do sometimes

784
00:54:11.600 --> 00:54:15.600
because we don't know how we're holding on to it so we don't know how to let go of it

785
00:54:16.240 --> 00:54:22.480
but one of the things that um that I try to help walk people through is how to recognize or

786
00:54:22.640 --> 00:54:29.760
help kind of anchor how how would I word that how people can kind of

787
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:38.000
recognize that they're holding on to something so that they can start to you know unfurl their

788
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:45.760
fingers and start to let it go um and but anyway there is a way to actually you can actually do

789
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:52.880
that and choose God without having to have something necessarily specific that you're

790
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:57.520
thinking oh I'm anxious about this and I'm not believing this about God there are some

791
00:54:57.520 --> 00:55:00.000
general things about God that if we're anxious we're not

792
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.560
believing. We're not believing that we're safe. We're not believing that we're being provided for,

793
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:11.040
you know, or whatever. And it means that we're not trusting God for those things. And so we

794
00:55:11.040 --> 00:55:16.480
just have to choose that he is who he says that he is to the degree he says he is that,

795
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:25.360
and that we are who he says that we are. And, and we just have to choose that at a very basic level.

796
00:55:26.080 --> 00:55:31.840
And I don't even have to get specific about it in order for me to, for that anxiety and that

797
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:39.120
stress to release. And one more thing that I wanted to say as an encouragement is you were

798
00:55:39.120 --> 00:55:43.920
talking about whether it be about this or whether it be about the fact that you said, well, I am in

799
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:50.240
faith in some areas and not in faith in another. That's fine. That's just all part of it. Because

800
00:55:50.240 --> 00:55:54.240
remember that we're just like in the physical, it's the same thing in the spiritual in our

801
00:55:54.240 --> 00:56:05.520
relationship with the Lord is we are physically, we're born as babies. We're not born 35 or 65

802
00:56:05.520 --> 00:56:11.920
or whatever. We don't know all of the things for the 35 or 65 year old knows we can't coordinate

803
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:18.160
our own body or even eat solid foods when we're first born. And there's nothing wrong with us.

804
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:23.920
It's okay for a baby to be a baby. In fact, it's important for a baby to go through this

805
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:30.800
process of development where he learns different things at different stages, and he's not equipped

806
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:37.200
to be able to handle the things that a 34 year old is learning in order to become a 35 year old.

807
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:44.240
A baby is not equipped to be able to handle that yet. So God doesn't hold it accountable for that.

808
00:56:44.240 --> 00:56:49.280
And it's the same thing with us in the Lord and the Spirit is whatever age that we are in the

809
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:54.160
Spirit, and who knows what that is, whatever age that we are in the Spirit, it's okay to be that

810
00:56:54.160 --> 00:57:03.520
age. God didn't create us, whether as babies in the physical or as Christians in the spiritual,

811
00:57:03.520 --> 00:57:11.840
as baby Christians that eventually grow up to be like teenagers in our relationship and fathers

812
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:19.920
in our Lord and all that. He didn't create us in a state of condemnation with him where we're not

813
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:27.200
enough and where he's just, he only looks at us as is, oh, there's something wrong with you until

814
00:57:27.200 --> 00:57:34.400
you finally get to be this age. You're bad in my eyes until, and it's just not the case. He's like,

815
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:37.840
no, this is what you're supposed to be right now. It's the way that I created it. And I didn't

816
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:43.920
create a process for you to go through that puts you in condemnation with me and from me,

817
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:48.000
where I say that you're sinful and bad and wrong and not where you're supposed to be. And you're

818
00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:51.680
always supposed to be somewhere else until you're 35. And then you're finally where you're supposed

819
00:57:51.680 --> 00:57:57.760
to be. It's the same thing in the Spirit. You're not supposed to know everything.

820
00:57:58.560 --> 00:58:06.080
You're not supposed to know how to do it all. God doesn't expect you to have to go into every

821
00:58:06.080 --> 00:58:11.440
situation and know fully how to have faith and how to do this thing and how to have relationship

822
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:17.680
with him and how to interact with him and who he is. He doesn't expect that. That is part of what

823
00:58:17.680 --> 00:58:24.880
he delights in is the whole development of all of that. So God's purpose for you isn't to get

824
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:30.240
somewhere. It's not particular destination. It's not a particular level of spiritual maturity.

825
00:58:30.240 --> 00:58:38.480
It's not even to overcome your body or your emotions or your flesh or anything like that.

826
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:45.840
That is secondary because God created you. It says in Ephesians 1.4, God chose us in him before the

827
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:52.080
creation of the world. So you were created for relationship with him. And I think you're going

828
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:57.360
to talk about that in session two. You're created for relationship with him

829
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:06.080
before creation, before God ever made the world. God created the world in order to show

830
00:59:06.720 --> 00:59:12.800
our relationship with him in a physical form. What is our relationship that already exists

831
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:17.120
in heaven? What does that look like in a physical form? But the focus isn't the physical form. The

832
00:59:17.120 --> 00:59:21.920
focus is our relationship with the Lord. And God just wants that to be developed.

833
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:27.200
He never expects us to, he doesn't condemn us for not being somewhere yet,

834
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:33.520
because the whole point is the fact that we're learning how to relate to him and that we're

835
00:59:33.520 --> 00:59:40.400
developing the relationship. That's the point. The point is the journey. The point is enjoying him

836
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:45.120
and him enjoying us. And God's just like, hey, but we're heading in this direction where you're

837
00:59:45.120 --> 00:59:51.360
becoming more mature, where you become more intimate with me, et cetera. See, God, I believe,

838
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:56.800
is like the universe, which I believe that he pictured the universe in such a way where, you

839
00:59:56.800 --> 00:59:59.920
know, it says the universe is always expanding.

840
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.320
to say that the universe is always expanding.

841
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:06.240
I believe that God put that into reality

842
01:00:06.240 --> 01:00:09.680
as a picture to us of the fact that he's always expanding.

843
01:00:09.680 --> 01:00:11.880
In other words, God's infinite.

844
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:13.820
And as mind boggling as it is,

845
01:00:13.820 --> 01:00:15.920
I think that there's an aspect in which he's like,

846
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:17.440
almost like it's always expanding

847
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:19.960
and always getting bigger or whatever.

848
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:22.800
And therefore we're never gonna get to the end of him.

849
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:25.440
So he doesn't hold us in condemnation

850
01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:29.240
against something that we can't even never do

851
01:00:29.240 --> 01:00:31.680
because he's always expanding.

852
01:00:31.680 --> 01:00:33.440
We're never gonna get to the end.

853
01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:36.120
So there's no destination that we're going towards.

854
01:00:36.120 --> 01:00:39.600
We're just in a direction of developing closer

855
01:00:39.600 --> 01:00:41.960
and more intimate relationship with him.

856
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:45.920
So I say that so that we release ourselves,

857
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:47.520
so that we understand that God has released us

858
01:00:47.520 --> 01:00:49.280
from shame and condemnation

859
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:52.160
of being wherever it is that we are in our relationship.

860
01:00:52.160 --> 01:00:55.400
God's just like, yeah, but we're learning,

861
01:00:56.240 --> 01:00:57.600
and you're learning more about me

862
01:00:57.600 --> 01:01:01.400
and you're learning how to have more faith in me, et cetera.

863
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:05.200
So I believe that we're out of time.

864
01:01:05.200 --> 01:01:07.560
So I just wanted to leave you with this.

865
01:01:07.560 --> 01:01:09.920
I would, and this is actually the first thing

866
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:14.440
of the practical tools that I teach people

867
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:16.400
about how to shift into rest.

868
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:20.800
And the very first thing that I recommend that people do

869
01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:24.160
is to release themselves of shame and condemnation.

870
01:01:24.160 --> 01:01:27.520
So if they are struggling with like anxiety

871
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:29.560
or stress or whatever,

872
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.680
and, or even if they're feeling ill,

873
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:36.160
regardless of what it is,

874
01:01:36.160 --> 01:01:40.120
regardless of the negative experience that they're having,

875
01:01:40.120 --> 01:01:43.040
that they focus first on releasing themselves

876
01:01:43.040 --> 01:01:45.320
from shame or condemnation.

877
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:46.160
To understand-

878
01:01:46.160 --> 01:01:48.280
Do you say it out loud, kind of?

879
01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:49.640
Or like how do you do that?

880
01:01:49.640 --> 01:01:51.200
Like-

881
01:01:51.200 --> 01:01:53.560
Just, no, you don't have to do it out loud.

882
01:01:53.560 --> 01:01:55.320
You just do it.

883
01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:58.200
See, a lot of times what we're doing

884
01:01:58.200 --> 01:02:01.440
is we're identifying with,

885
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:03.920
we're believing that the experience that we're having

886
01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:05.480
is saying something about us.

887
01:02:06.520 --> 01:02:08.920
That there's something wrong with me,

888
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:12.080
or I'm not mature enough,

889
01:02:12.080 --> 01:02:14.520
or God isn't pleased with me,

890
01:02:14.520 --> 01:02:17.320
or I'm not protected, I'm not provided for,

891
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:19.960
or I don't know, just, you know, whatever.

892
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:24.440
Or if we're experiencing some physical ailment

893
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:29.040
that, again, there's something wrong with who I am.

894
01:02:29.040 --> 01:02:33.520
And we have to disassociate our identity

895
01:02:33.520 --> 01:02:38.240
and our value from the experience that we're having,

896
01:02:38.240 --> 01:02:41.680
and even the choice that our flesh is making,

897
01:02:41.680 --> 01:02:45.920
because you are not the choices that your flesh makes.

898
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:48.760
So if you are in unbelief in an area,

899
01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:51.280
that is not who you are.

900
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:54.120
Who you are is in your spirit, man,

901
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:57.760
which is the new man, which is perfect, which is in Christ.

902
01:02:57.760 --> 01:02:59.880
That's who you are.

903
01:02:59.880 --> 01:03:03.800
You have the flesh, you have a soul in your body,

904
01:03:03.800 --> 01:03:07.040
but the part of you that's your identity,

905
01:03:07.040 --> 01:03:09.400
that's who it is that you are,

906
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:11.040
it has to be seated somewhere.

907
01:03:11.040 --> 01:03:13.520
And it's seated in your spirit

908
01:03:13.520 --> 01:03:15.200
because that was created first.

909
01:03:15.200 --> 01:03:16.400
You know, Ephesians 1, 4,

910
01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:19.160
God chose this in him before the creation of the world.

911
01:03:20.040 --> 01:03:22.600
Who you are is your spirit,

912
01:03:22.640 --> 01:03:25.800
not meaning like your actual identity.

913
01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:29.480
And God says that that identity is in him,

914
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:31.800
and he can't have anything corrupted within him,

915
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:33.760
which makes you perfect.

916
01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:35.480
And it says in James, even,

917
01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:38.040
it says, anyone who was born of God,

918
01:03:38.040 --> 01:03:39.280
okay, let me back up.

919
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:41.640
James talks, Jesus talks to Nicodemus,

920
01:03:41.640 --> 01:03:44.320
and he says, that which is born of flesh is flesh,

921
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:47.280
that which is born of, that which is,

922
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:50.600
that which is born of spirit is spirit.

923
01:03:50.680 --> 01:03:53.800
So that means that our spirit was born of God's spirit.

924
01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:58.480
We're not God or anything, but we're born of his spirit.

925
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:03.120
So that is, so your spirit is born of God.

926
01:04:03.120 --> 01:04:04.560
Your spirit is perfect.

927
01:04:04.560 --> 01:04:05.880
There's nothing wrong with it.

928
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:08.880
It literally has, and it mentions in James,

929
01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:11.600
that anyone who is born of God,

930
01:04:11.600 --> 01:04:13.160
for anyone who is born of God,

931
01:04:13.160 --> 01:04:15.960
it is impossible for him to sin.

932
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:16.960
It says that in James.

933
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:19.400
It depends on the translation as to what word they use,

934
01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:22.240
and certain translations say the word impossible.

935
01:04:22.240 --> 01:04:26.280
Other ones say things like cannot sin or whatever.

936
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:30.360
But so it's impossible to sin, cannot sin, whatever.

937
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:32.440
It's talking about your spirit

938
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:34.240
because it's the new man who's in Christ,

939
01:04:34.240 --> 01:04:36.160
and Christ can't have anything corrupted within him,

940
01:04:36.160 --> 01:04:38.000
therefore it can't have any sin in him.

941
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:40.800
And if you're in him, it means that you don't sin.

942
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:43.800
Who you are is in your spirit.

943
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:47.520
So if your flesh, your soul, or your body,

944
01:04:47.560 --> 01:04:50.040
that your identity is not seated in those places,

945
01:04:50.040 --> 01:04:51.000
but you still have it.

946
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:51.920
It's still part of you.

947
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:53.960
It's your soul and your body.

948
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:57.720
If it is an unbelief, and if you're acting in unbelief,

949
01:04:58.640 --> 01:05:00.120
you, who you are.

950
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:04.120
or your identity is not being touched by your unbelief.

951
01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:07.520
Who you are always believed God.

952
01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:12.440
So I say that, that's in order for us to understand

953
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:15.240
when we're claiming God says,

954
01:05:15.240 --> 01:05:18.280
there is therefore no condemnation

955
01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:20.520
for those who are in Christ Jesus.

956
01:05:20.520 --> 01:05:22.560
That's why he can say it,

957
01:05:22.560 --> 01:05:25.360
because who you are is your spirit,

958
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:27.080
no matter what your flesh does.

959
01:05:28.080 --> 01:05:30.440
So release yourself from condemnation

960
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:34.080
and know that even if you are even intentionally sinning

961
01:05:34.080 --> 01:05:36.080
in some way, sure, we shouldn't be doing that,

962
01:05:36.080 --> 01:05:38.840
but that's not the discussion we're having right now.

963
01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:40.640
Even if you're doing it,

964
01:05:40.640 --> 01:05:42.880
how do you release yourself from condemnation?

965
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:45.080
If you were actually and intentionally doing something,

966
01:05:45.080 --> 01:05:46.200
or if you just did something,

967
01:05:46.200 --> 01:05:48.560
how do you release yourself from condemnation?

968
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:51.480
Yes, you're still doing it,

969
01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:55.600
but who you are, it's not affecting your identity.

970
01:05:58.080 --> 01:06:00.680
And so anyway, it means that that's an aspect

971
01:06:00.680 --> 01:06:02.720
of your flesh you haven't overcome yet.

972
01:06:02.720 --> 01:06:04.200
And you're not currently overcoming

973
01:06:04.200 --> 01:06:07.280
because you're intentionally sinning,

974
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:12.280
but who you are is not any less perfect

975
01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:15.120
than it was before you sinned.

976
01:06:15.120 --> 01:06:17.160
That aspect of you is always perfect

977
01:06:17.160 --> 01:06:19.720
and always will be because it's unified with Christ.

978
01:06:19.720 --> 01:06:22.800
So that is releasing yourself from shame and condemnation.

979
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:25.160
And it is shocking that even when you're intentionally

980
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:27.440
sinning or someone does something to you and hurts you,

981
01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:29.400
and you're like, what on earth did I do to deserve that?

982
01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:31.680
What must that be saying about me?

983
01:06:31.680 --> 01:06:33.760
All of those things, we can,

984
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:37.120
even regardless of the situation that we're in,

985
01:06:37.120 --> 01:06:39.240
we can, if we choose,

986
01:06:39.240 --> 01:06:41.520
we can release ourselves from shame and condemnation

987
01:06:41.520 --> 01:06:42.600
if we choose.

988
01:06:42.600 --> 01:06:45.000
Okay, no, regardless of the flesh,

989
01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:47.040
who it is that I am has never changed.

990
01:06:47.040 --> 01:06:48.760
And who it is that I am is perfect

991
01:06:49.680 --> 01:06:53.240
and is uncorrupted by sin.

992
01:06:53.240 --> 01:06:57.880
My flesh is, but not who I am and who I am as spirit.

993
01:06:57.880 --> 01:06:59.760
So release yourself from shame and condemnation.

994
01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:04.760
And I'm serious that so very often, not all the time,

995
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:07.760
which is why I talk about some other tools

996
01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:09.040
that people can use,

997
01:07:09.040 --> 01:07:12.400
but so very often that anxiety and that stress

998
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:16.440
will just lift because there are some way,

999
01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:20.840
even if it's in physical, even if we're in physical pain,

1000
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:24.600
there is some way in which we take on a condemnation

1001
01:07:24.600 --> 01:07:27.920
of our very identity and we associate it with it.

1002
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:31.920
And we get very discouraged, et cetera,

1003
01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:35.840
because we think that somehow God's abandoned

1004
01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:37.680
who it is that we are,

1005
01:07:37.680 --> 01:07:39.160
or there's something wrong with us,

1006
01:07:39.160 --> 01:07:40.520
or we're not enough or whatever.

1007
01:07:40.520 --> 01:07:43.560
It's really weird how we associate things like that,

1008
01:07:43.560 --> 01:07:45.600
or even things that happened to us

1009
01:07:45.600 --> 01:07:48.240
as saying something about who we are.

1010
01:07:48.240 --> 01:07:50.520
So we have to learn to disassociate that

1011
01:07:51.200 --> 01:07:52.560
and to choose that we are who God says that we are.

1012
01:07:52.560 --> 01:07:53.720
And he says that we're spirit.

1013
01:07:53.720 --> 01:07:55.080
He says that we're the new man.

1014
01:07:55.080 --> 01:07:56.840
He says that we're perfect.

1015
01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:00.320
So that's what I would encourage you in

1016
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:03.800
to focus on this coming week is.

1017
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:04.640
Yeah, I will.

1018
01:08:04.640 --> 01:08:06.440
Just the no shame and no condemnation.

1019
01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:08.880
And I mean, if you're paying attention,

1020
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:10.320
you will be shocked at how often

1021
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:12.200
you'll have to do it throughout the day

1022
01:08:12.200 --> 01:08:17.200
because we have such a strong tendency

1023
01:08:18.040 --> 01:08:19.359
towards shame and condemnation.

1024
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:20.960
In fact, we typically use shame

1025
01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:22.680
to motivate us throughout the day.

1026
01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:23.720
Yeah.

1027
01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:25.120
We use it to work harder.

1028
01:08:25.120 --> 01:08:26.439
We use it to try harder.

1029
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:29.240
We use it to read our Bible is shame.

1030
01:08:29.240 --> 01:08:30.160
Yeah.

1031
01:08:30.160 --> 01:08:31.640
We've got to release ourselves from shame.

1032
01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:33.640
The more you release yourself from shame,

1033
01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:35.399
the more you will naturally follow God,

1034
01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:36.800
the more you'll naturally obey him,

1035
01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:39.040
and the easier it'll be to have faith.

1036
01:08:39.040 --> 01:08:42.319
Shame is active resistance against our faith.

1037
01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:43.240
So anyway.

1038
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:47.800
Good, thank you.

1039
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:48.960
You're welcome.

1040
01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:51.120
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1041
01:08:52.760 --> 01:08:55.600
All right, well, you let me know in the meantime

1042
01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:59.160
if anything comes up, otherwise I'll see you next week.

1043
01:08:59.160 --> 01:09:02.240
But like I said, I'm here to actually help people

1044
01:09:02.240 --> 01:09:05.439
live the thing, not learn it and not learn how to do it,

1045
01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:06.840
but actually live it.

1046
01:09:07.720 --> 01:09:10.600
So during this time, so you just reach out

1047
01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:11.920
if you have any questions.

1048
01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:12.760
I will.

1049
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:16.359
And so, and I can see this recording.

1050
01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:18.439
Yes, it's recorded.

1051
01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:21.800
So I always record it so that not only I have it,

1052
01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:25.800
but then also if anybody needs the recording,

1053
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:26.880
I can always send it to them.

1054
01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:30.200
So remember that that's part of what it is that you have

1055
01:09:30.200 --> 01:09:32.760
is this recording is going to go up on that page.

1056
01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:33.920
Yeah.

1057
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:35.359
Only you will see it.

1058
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:37.880
But my point is that that's how you can access it

1059
01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:39.720
is through that page.

1060
01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:40.760
Through which page?

1061
01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:43.880
The kingdom, the kingdom,

1062
01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:48.880
the rest intensive membership page on the website.

1063
01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:53.000
Yeah.

1064
01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:54.160
Yeah, yeah.

1065
01:09:54.160 --> 01:09:56.760
So you remember when you go to watch the session?

1066
01:09:56.760 --> 01:09:57.600
Yeah.

1067
01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:00.080
Because there's one.

1068
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:05.000
I cannot be part of the group, right?

1069
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:07.000
Correct.

1070
01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:11.000
Correct. But this is the membership page. This is on the website.

1071
01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:17.000
So remember, if you go to my website, interhiv.rest,

1072
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:21.000
and you go to Rest Intensive Program at the top,

1073
01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:23.000
there will be a drop down.

1074
01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:29.000
And one of the things is Rest Intensive Members.

1075
01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:32.000
Yes, okay, I'm there.

1076
01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:34.000
And then this will be uploaded there.

1077
01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:37.000
Yeah, that's the page. Yes.

1078
01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:39.000
Oh, yeah.

1079
01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:44.000
So, yeah. So that is where you can watch the videos.

1080
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:47.000
And then you'll notice that there's the transformation sessions at the

1081
01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:49.000
bottom. And then when I,

1082
01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:53.000
when I am able to get these recorded sessions downloaded,

1083
01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:55.000
I'll upload them there.

1084
01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:58.000
So that's your private page to be able to see that.

1085
01:10:58.000 --> 01:10:59.000
Perfect.

1086
01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:00.000
Yeah.

1087
01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:01.000
That's great.

1088
01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:04.000
The sessions will appear when, when it's time.

1089
01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:07.000
So they're always going to appear, you know, like I'll be able to,

1090
01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:10.000
I'll give you access to the second session.

1091
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:13.000
Now that you've watched the first and then you have an opportunity to

1092
01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:16.000
watch that before, you know, next week, et cetera.

1093
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:19.000
And then I'll be uploading this transformation session for you to be

1094
01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:21.000
able to see that as well.

1095
01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:24.000
Sounds great. Yeah. Okay.

1096
01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:25.000
All right.

1097
01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:27.000
Well, like I said, you reach out if you have any questions.

1098
01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:28.000
I will.

1099
01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:29.000
And see you next week.

1100
01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:32.000
All right. Good to talk to you. Yeah. You too.

1101
01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:33.000
Bye.