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Welcome to Empower You. I'm Amy Stevens. You may have heard Pastor Steve's podcast

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where we had a conversation about public policy engagement or civic engagement.

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You know, COVID changed a lot of things in our community and this is where the

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road really exploded in membership and where people began to get engaged. And so

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Pastor Steve came to me and said, hey, would you consider volunteering to help

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lead this effort? We have all kinds of views in our church, diverse views. And

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really, how do we make sense of that? How do we move forward? People are exhausted,

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a lot of people angry, some just trying to raise their kids. How do we stay

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engaged? And I'm convinced it's through big, important little things, things that

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you and I can do every day. And that's what you're going to hear on these

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podcasts. You're gonna hear from people in the community, school board members,

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you're going to hear from people that work in the life, pro-life space, you're

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going to hear from legislators, people that are going to talk to us about what

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their lives are really like, what their jobs are really like, and actually how we

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can make a difference and or support them. And so that is the hope for Pastor

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Steve, that's the hope that I have, and we look forward to engaging with you.

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Hi, and welcome to Empower You. I'm so excited about this policy engagement

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that Pastor Steve talked about in our last podcast, and I really want to

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highlight some of the things that we're doing and some of the incredible people

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at church who are doing incredible things. And one of them is my dear friend

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Debbie Chavez, and we've known each other for quite a few years. I'm not even

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going to give you a bio because I will mess it up, so I want you to give it,

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Debbie. Okay, how many children? Seven children. Okay, see, I already would have

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messed that up. I was going for six, but tell everybody what you do. Tell us your

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bio because you have done some incredible work. Well, God has been good.

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I've been able to be placed in this realm that we sometimes call politics,

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and right now I'm with My Faith Votes, which is a national organization. We

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work across the nation in every state in the nation to help people that love

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the Lord walk their values outside the walls of the church. That means that

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we're helping them understand what does it mean to pray biblically, to think

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about these issues that are going on in our everyday lives, to think from a

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biblical perspective, and to take some action and do something about it. What we

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saw is that one in three Christians were not regularly voting in elections in

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every election when it came up, and that's one in three. That's a large

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number. That's over 25 million Christians that aren't voting, and when

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we look at the pillars of power in America, that culture is where we carry

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all of our values, virtues, shape the norms of society, public policy where our

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laws are made and regulations where the rules for laws are made, and elections

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where the big public decision makers control regulation and public policy. We

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realized we've got to do something about it. Christians have to get out there, and

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that's why MyFaithVotes exists because when we vote our biblical values and we

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walk out those biblical values in our local communities, we start seeing

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transformation all over this nation, state by state, community by community,

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and next thing you know we've got a nation that knows what it means to have

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religious freedom and exercise that in public, to have parental rights and walk

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them out in our families, and to have schools and institutions across this

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nation that include God in the equation of what is this life situation we walk

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out. Wow. But we don't see that right now, do we? No, I was gonna say, can someone tell

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me what that looks like? Right? Well, actually, and we're what it looks like.

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Yes. The more of us that we get out there, the more it looks like that. At

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MyFaithVotes, we have this group of people that we call action partners.

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These are people that have raised their hand in their own state, and they've said,

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I want to do something. I want to make a difference, and my faith matters so much.

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I can't keep it inside my church. I've got to get out there, and so we have over

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11,000 that have already raised their hands. They're in all of the 50 states in

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the nation, and they just said, I want to join with somebody else in my own state

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and make a difference in my state so that we have a national collective

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difference. So we work with them on a weekly basis, not just once in a while,

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and keep them engaged, help them understand what's going on, and what do

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they do about it, and what are the action steps to take. This is something, I think,

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for our listeners, that as we started this outreach, we looked at the issue of

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voter integrity, and we were saying, because, again, let's just be clear. We

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had COVID. We had our 2020 elections where we've, I know in this county, a lot

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of people questioned the validity of, you know, the elections, what was going

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on, and we've had laws pass. Even when I was in the legislature, the moment we

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lost the majority, there was a set of five very detrimental, I felt, voting

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rights legislation that I think really didn't serve Colorado voters well. So

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let's talk about this voter engagement.

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Talk about the integrity, that's a tough word because I think we have to visualize what

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does that look like.

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But given that you'll be doing this within our church, tell us what that looks like.

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Voter integrity has oversight.

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Everybody loves oversight accountability.

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That's how we know that things are being checked and that they're working properly.

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There are many ways that are set up, even in a state that might not feel like it respects

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Christian values, we still have mechanisms within our state to make sure that we have

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free and fair elections and that's a good thing.

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And the way that we do that is take part in it.

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We can be poll watchers, that means you're actually someone who's watching those that

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are receiving ballots and you're making sure that there's integrity in that process.

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You can be an election judge, that means you're inside the election office actually watching

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those votes be counted to make sure that the checks and balances are there for fairness.

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And these are things that volunteers can do, they can sign up to do that.

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And in our county it's very easy to do that, across the state it's very easy.

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People should be familiar with things like the Secretary of State's website and their

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county clerk and recorder's website.

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That's where voter integrity starts, is being involved and knowing what those processes

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are that take part in it.

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Now we heard things all over the place during the last election about ballot harvesting,

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which basically means trafficking the vote.

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It means that there were people out there that were paid to go collect ballots in areas

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where they thought they might get people to vote one certain way for a certain candidate

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and then collect those ballots together and turn them in.

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Now when you do something like that, traffic the vote and get paid to do that, that's just

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not an honest behavior that looks like it has ethics involved with it.

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So what we would encourage is if you live in a state, especially in our state where

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you can do this, you can do gathering of ballots of those that don't have time to go turn it

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in.

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We're an all-male ballot state where every voter that's registered gets a ballot.

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We also are in a state that has same-day voter registration.

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That means you can register to vote up until 7 p.m. on election day and vote in the election

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that day.

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Now those that pass those laws for that, they might have had some ill intent, but we're

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believers.

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We transform everything.

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So we take those processes that might have been meant for evil and we turn them for good.

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We say, hey Christian, remember, if you're not registered to vote, we can get that taken

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care of today before the election is over and you can vote your ballot that day.

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And for those of you that are concerned about the integrity of the vote, maybe you can help

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someone who can't get their ballot turned in and deliver it for them, offer to drop

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it off in one of those ballot boxes or at the clerk and recorder's office.

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Or if you don't know who to vote for, bring your ballot to church and talk to your friends.

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You know, we can do that in our state and we can encourage each other and give them

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good information about these candidates that are on the ballot.

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So everybody is voting with wisdom and discernment, not just randomly checking a box.

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Right.

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Now you and I know, I mean, I get it at every election time.

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The phone calls, who to vote for?

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You know, I think we, our former boss, there was always Tom and Deb's picks, right?

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We always had some of those and people will call and say, you know, ask, ask what you're

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doing.

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But I can tell you, I had a very, very tight primary when I was in the legislature in 2012.

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And this concept of going after, in other words, looking at precincts and being able

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to go, Hey, they're not performing.

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And they got a lot of voters over there and actually going door to door saying, have you

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voted?

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Have you turned your ballot in?

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No.

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You know, we, you can do that.

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You can do that.

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Now there's ill ways to do it, right?

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We have found like, for example, in Georgia, you know, they're, they're going to senior

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citizen homes and wholesaling, working with some people to have a questionable, right?

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Some of that.

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We have a lot of people that do that in our own state.

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We do.

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We do.

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We do.

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Another thing that I think has been contentious, not only in our church, but some other churches

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as well in our County, is this issue of course, the machines, right?

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Do we want to go to a one person, one paper ballot, which I know a number of people who

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want to go back to that versus quote the machines, which a lot of people say, well, those can

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be manipulated.

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I, where do you fall on that?

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You know, Pastor Steve and I talk about that and he doesn't like to really get in into

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some of that.

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But I, I think we've had some people really that turn up then to our County commissioners,

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you know, you get a lot of hostility, screaming and yelling.

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And I want to know where, where are you on all that?

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Okay.

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So we live in a sinful fallen world.

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We know that.

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But once again, God gave us access.

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America is like no other nation in the world where we have freedom to take part in all

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of these processes.

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What a blessing that God chose us to live here.

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So if we want something to be accurate and handled well, we need to have people in those

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positions, those elected positions.

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that will accurately and authentically and truthfully handle all of the systems

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that are involved with processing the vote. That means we've got to be out

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there voting him into office and if we're not, if we don't have that person

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be a part of the poll watcher, be a part of the election judge. Now let's talk

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ballots and machines. You know right now we have machines in Colorado.

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Oh yes. In all of the election offices. And did for many, many years. We did.

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So rather than look back, let's look forward at where we are right now and

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where we're going. So with the machines that we have, if we wanted an all-paper

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ballot program, first off we have to be willing to put skin in the game to get

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that. That means money. Because it's going to cost a lot of money to get rid of the

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machines and have the paper ballots. So that's the first question I would ask

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people is, how much money are you willing to be a part of spending? Be a part of

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spending as a taxpayer. Right. To pay for this change in system. Yes. And if you're

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not willing to, well the conversation's probably over. Right. If we're not willing

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to make that transition with our own money in an investment. And then we'd

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have to put skin in the game because there's going to be a time frame for

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transition if we do that too. I don't know what that would actually look like for

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the time frame of transition, but that means a lot of manpower. Yes. And a lot

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of extra expense there too just to convert. Right. And manpower that also

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can miscount or be wrong. I mean. Exactly. Right. And so there are

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pros and cons. Now are there any states that are contemplating that? Going back

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to paper ballots? You know, I'm sure there are. I don't know off the top of my head which ones

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those would be. Okay. But this is where I always put the burden on the Christian. As

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a Christian, we have a higher standard. And I always say we need to show up a

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hundred percent ready to put our efforts where they need to go. And if something

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is wrong, help make it right. Yes. And so if we do believe something is wrong here,

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we've got to show up and figure out what is our responsibility to make it right.

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And if we're working within the system that we currently have in place, that

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means we are volunteering in the clerk and recorder's office. We always ask, how

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can I be a part of the solution? Not how can I make the problem yours. Right. Or

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the, oh, I'm watching you, which, you know, thank you. But does precious little.

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Right. In terms of we have a great clerk and record. He's a lovely man and would

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welcome, welcomes the transparency, would welcome people. I get, I want to, I'm

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going to switch gears just a bit because I'm going to talk about when we go to

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visit. Let's just say our county commissioners are over the clerk and

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recorder's office. So, you know, they had a lot of people, uh, upset, uh, get

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rid of the machines, do all this. And I want to talk about, because I also hear

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it from some of our city council members or people that I have relationships with

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a right and a wrong way to approach our elected officials. We've had some people,

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you know, waiting scriptures, Adam telling them, you know, uh, I heard one

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just, you know, the fiery gates of hell are going to meet them or something. And

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I, I don't, I don't, a, I don't think that's terribly effective. Uh, and B, you

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know, I think some of those could be videos of what not to do. So I want to

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hear from you. Well, and I'm so glad you asked, you know, I actually wrote a

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little resource one time on how to speak at a public meeting and how to give your

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own personal testimony at a public meeting, because I think it is real

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important, real, very important. I think what we need to understand is that moral

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outrage does not carry the day. And when you enter a conversation or, or a public

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meeting where you're making a point and you lead with moral outrage, you rarely

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hold the attention of the person that you're speaking with, but you can enter

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into, I'm concerned. And my concerns are these, and this is the outcome I think

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we should have had. And these are the steps that validate why that outcome

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would be better. And if we lay out exactly how we'd like to talk, and I

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always say, when you're going to talk in a public meeting, practice at home

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first, look in the mirror when you practice, record yourself on your phone

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and play it back to you. If you're either boring yourself or irritating

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yourself or thinking that you're kind of funny, you probably aren't saying it the

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right way. So we can practice ahead of time. And, you know, we give

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communication classes on this, on how to get your message across. And we'll do

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that here. We are going to do that here, by the way, Pastor Steve wants an

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apologetics of sorts. I think, I believe it's critical. And I think that having

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sat through so many committee hearings, right, and hearing people who actually

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succinctly make a case, and then allow for the Q&A part, I think is incredibly

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important.

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Well, it is important. And we need to know how to get our message across

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without getting defensive or backed into a corner. Because oftentimes, when we

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lead with our moral outrage, we do get backed into a corner, people will throw

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accusations at us and what happens then is we start validating accusations

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thrown at us rather than getting our message out because we spend so much

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time in an argumentative format rather than relaying the message that's really

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important that needs to be relayed. Okay so we're gonna have this conversation

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quite a bit actually because I think there's some unfinished business. Pastor

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Steve and I talked about the hard, not just the hard questions, but the hard

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conversations. You and I have talked about hard conversations and we've

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engaged in some of those. So I want to take us to perhaps a school board

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meeting, right, where there actually I think is cause for moral

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outrage in terms of some of the resources and sexualization of

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young kids or the attempt to and I would have moral outrage. I mean I

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looked at the parents when I was in DC in Loudoun County who they had a

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transsexual or boy actually I would just say cross-dressing but was put to a

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different school, had a daughter raped. Understandably father's upset. So you

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have moral, you've got some community moral outrage. So how do we address this

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actually because we're having some of that around here. How do we address that

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then when we show up in the public square? Well I'm glad you asked. I just

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finished writing a resource. It will actually be released probably in July

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because we want to release this resource before kids are going back to school.

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Right. So parents are engaged. Right. Parents need to do a little bit of

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homework and understand what are the policies that are actually impacting

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their school. In Colorado we have some pretty egregious policies that are state

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law that have impacted education. I'm gonna rattle off just a few because I

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think it's important that people know. If sex ed is taught in school in Colorado

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it must be comprehensive. Comprehensive sex ed requires that you teach sexual

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practices outside of traditional sexual relationships and sexual roles and sexual

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behavior. That means that we're teaching some subjects that I won't mention on

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the video but they're they're pretty offensive. Right. We also lowered the age

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of consent to seek psychotherapy for children outside their parents knowledge

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or consent to age 12. That just got signed actually. Well actually that one

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was in 2019. Yes and the follow-up was just this past session. Yes. The follow-up

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this past session said that they would like to psychoanalyze every sixth through

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twelfth grader. Right. So they have a baseline of where they are in the

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psychological spectrum. But let me tell you something. Twelve-year-olds don't

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drive. That means somebody is taking a twelve-year-old to a counselor outside

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their parents knowledge or consent and they have a record of this counseling. We

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don't know what's being discussed. All of this is under the guise of stopping

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suicidality. But what we know to be true is that the number one way to stop

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suicidality is to strengthen the relationship between child and parent.

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Yes. Not to teach a child to deceive their parents. Exactly. Because that breaks

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down relationship between them. So we've got to start being aware of what's going

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on in these statutes and regulations. It's now required to graduate in

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Colorado from a public education system. You must learn the social constructs of

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the LGBTQIA community in your social government class or civic government

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class to graduate. Now do parents know this? Do they know that that's not an opt

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in or opt out? The other thing Colorado has that we need to be aware of is

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something called a queer endeavor. A queer endeavor is actually something

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that two lesbians at CU Boulder decided they would start in the teaching

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department. So you can look it up on CU Boulder's website. And these two lesbians

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developed this program to teach teachers how to queer every subject in the

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classroom starting in preschool so there is no parental notification or no opt

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out. Now this is very concerning and we have to pay attention to that social and

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emotional learning factor in there too. Yes. Because social and emotional

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learning is not a curriculum. It's an ideology that is woven into the learning

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experience. Yes. Where they're teaching morality, truth, intersectionality, what

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is integrity, what are relationships, how do you function in those, but they are

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not defining where do they get the definition of truth, where do they get

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the definition of morality, who is in control of telling what a relationship

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is. And they are creating these so-called good allies. Yes. And what that

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means is you're standing down on things that Christians might call sinful or

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would call sinful and they're saying you're an ally to them because you want

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to love people no matter what they're doing whether that's right or wrong it's

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their truth and their expression and we want to show them love. Right. And that will

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make you a good kind adult if you learn this social and emotional learning. So we

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all want good kind adults but what we know to be true is that love, joy, peace,

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patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, and self-control come from God not from a

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social and emotional learning program with a humanistic worldview that pulls

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away from biblical truth and put you into a human truth only.

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You and I talked about the kind of pressures

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that our children are under.

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So for example, I had a friend the other evening

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who had participated in, I think it was Reading Day

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or National Reading Day, and she is a creator

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of some wonderful books called Simple Gifts.

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and it really shocked her because it was zero to five,

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but it really talked about your own empowerment

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and you have the right to protest.

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what would that mean to a five-year-old?

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So when a three, four, five, five, six, seven-year-old

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is listening to their parent, their parent is,

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let's just say, highly engaged in their life

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or raising them, it puts a child right in the middle

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of a stressful relationship because if my teacher

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is Miss Sue, and I'm believing Miss Sue,

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and Miss Sue is teaching something entirely contrary,

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the ability to speak up, the ability to understand,

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the stress on a child, I think, right now

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in this environment is very difficult, very hard.

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It is very hard, and we see these young, innocent minds

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that enter this system, this institution,

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that basically is saying your loyalty is first here,

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and we will tell you what that looks like

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outside of this institution.

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That's very difficult because we know to be true

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that if you honor your father and mother,

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it will go well with you as you live in the land.

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We know that, and so this is contrary to that.

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It takes the parents and puts them on a lower stool

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than everybody else, and that means

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that their parental rights are secondary

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to the rights of the teacher,

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the rights of the system of education,

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and that's not the way that this was set up.

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It is the way it's being manipulated right now,

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and that's where we stand up together.

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We unite as one force, as the body of Christ

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that stands up and says,

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we know what God said is best for children,

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and when you get those steps out of order,

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there's a detrimental effect on a child's heart,

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mind, body, and soul, and their relationships,

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so we stand in the gap to make sure

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that that order is put back in place.

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You and I were talking about how, really,

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it's so hard for parents, particularly when you're working,

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you send your child to public education.

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Both of you are working, trying to get by, right?

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You're trying to raise your kids.

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You're going to a church.

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You're trying to do these things.

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You sign, they got all these papers

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at the beginning of the school year, right?

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about empowering parents as to what to look for.

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You and I were just talking about a curriculum

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that touts itself as an anti-bullying,

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really, though, says it's emotional social learning.

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We know, then, that theory is detrimental,

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in many cases, for children, right?

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Not age-appropriate, you don't know, has sexualization.

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It's a tough thing, so I'm a parent,

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and I take the time to go to a school board meeting.

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What, how do I approach my school?

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What do I say?

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Because I knew what to do for my own son.

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I've had a moment or two where I've had to go,

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but in general, right, what do we do?

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Well, and there's a point of entry for everyone.

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Not everybody has the same point of entry.

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One of the things that we do when we do

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our message training on how to get your message across,

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we have everybody take a quick little personality test

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because everybody has some sort of strength or weakness,

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and some people, honestly, would not be the ones

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that should really be out there speaking

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in public to a school board,

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but they might be able to empower someone else

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because they can create the message to carry.

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So it's always good when we unite together.

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God loves fellowship, and so do I,

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and we all have strengths, we all have some weaknesses,

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and we complement each other,

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and that's where the body of Christ

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doesn't do all the same thing all the time.

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We complement each other, so get prepared.

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Know what your strengths and weaknesses are,

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and understand the system that you're speaking into.

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A lot of times, we show up because something

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hit our radar and we're angry,

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and we show up to speak before we have

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all of our ducks in a row.

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I would encourage people to get your ducks in a row first.

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Do a little bit of research.

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Pull up the school's website or the district's website.

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Look for whatever's upset you.

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Search for that term or those words or that sentence.

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Search for it and see what you're finding

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so that you're accurate when you relay information

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because here's what we want to empower

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is for Christians to be truth-tellers

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in the public at all times.

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Don't exaggerate, and that's why I say

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don't lead with your moral outrage

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because you'll be more tempted to exaggerate,

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and make sure that you know

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what you're relaying information to,

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but when we sound an alarm, we need to have a solution,

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and God is so good at giving us solutions.

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There's nothing new.

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to the Son, we know that.

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He's gonna give us the discernment that we need

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to pull that solution out,

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to know what it looks like to have order and structure,

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and what's best for children's, families,

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parents, and relationship.

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So I would encourage you to be in the Word,

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and if you don't know right off the bat, come and ask us.

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That's why we're here, and ask anybody else at church.

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Bounce your ideas off of other sound believers

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that can give you good advice,

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and make sure that you're leading with wisdom,

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knowledge, and discernment,

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so that you've got the right guidance that you need

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to apply that, because a lot of times,

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we throw knowledge out there with no wisdom applied.

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That means that the understanding is not going to follow.

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There's just a lot of confusion and upsetness

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that's going to pull people apart from each other,

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rather than come together for a solution.

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Yes, yes, and I think how we choose our words on that

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in terms of empowering words, right?

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I have, you and I know a woman

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who's been in relationship education.

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She's always, you know, the left are masters

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at changing the dialogue.

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Every five years, there's a new term,

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a new proper term, a new this,

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and she has stayed ahead of the game.

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So that we can use, right?

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We, too, speak the language when we get to the microphone,

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let's just say.

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You know, I, when I look at this lack,

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I want to turn that, because engagement is engagement.

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Whether you show up at the school board,

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whether you write who's today's, you know,

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we've got Target today, right?

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Or the Bud Light, or whether you write them and say,

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hey, not spending money here, or whatever.

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Engagement is engagement, but I am shocked at why,

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what is it, why are 25 million Christians

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not showing up to vote?

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People of faith who know, right?

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They do know.

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They do know better.

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So what, in your polling and the things you've done,

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why is that?

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Apathy is the number one reason

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that people don't show up to vote.

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But I want to give them the benefit of the doubt

460
00:27:05.360 --> 00:27:07.280
and hope that we can educate them enough,

461
00:27:07.280 --> 00:27:09.460
because here's what is true.

462
00:27:09.460 --> 00:27:13.760
America is like no other nation in the entire world.

463
00:27:13.760 --> 00:27:16.740
We did one thing different that nobody's ever done.

464
00:27:16.740 --> 00:27:19.760
We enshrined religious freedom in our Constitution

465
00:27:19.760 --> 00:27:22.320
in such a way that it is a platform

466
00:27:22.320 --> 00:27:25.840
from which every single individual in this nation

467
00:27:25.840 --> 00:27:28.600
can carry their virtues and values out into public

468
00:27:28.600 --> 00:27:30.520
and exercise, express them.

469
00:27:30.520 --> 00:27:34.280
We have the free exercise of religion, not worship.

470
00:27:34.280 --> 00:27:36.480
Worship is locked in a church.

471
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:39.440
We have the free exercise of religion.

472
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:41.440
Now, we don't use that as a platform

473
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:43.580
to take our virtues and values out there,

474
00:27:43.580 --> 00:27:46.760
so it's been manipulated and adjudicated in the courts.

475
00:27:46.760 --> 00:27:48.000
And that's where people have said,

476
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.760
oh, it's just an issue that we can put parameters around.

477
00:27:50.760 --> 00:27:54.120
It's not, but we've allowed them to treat it as such.

478
00:27:54.120 --> 00:27:55.880
So we have to take that back

479
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.880
and start exercising our religious freedom in public.

480
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.080
That means we take the tape off of our mouth,

481
00:28:01.080 --> 00:28:02.720
the handcuffs off of our hands,

482
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:06.800
we show up in public in love, in grace, in truth,

483
00:28:06.800 --> 00:28:08.320
and we tell the truth in public,

484
00:28:08.320 --> 00:28:10.440
but we invite people to the truth.

485
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:11.860
When you throw the truth at someone,

486
00:28:11.860 --> 00:28:15.360
it often bounces off and comes right back at you.

487
00:28:15.360 --> 00:28:17.960
We need to invite them, because I can tell you this,

488
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:20.240
we could change every policy in the United States

489
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:23.200
that we want to, but if people are still burning in hell,

490
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:24.800
we've lost.

491
00:28:24.800 --> 00:28:27.860
We've got to walk like we know there's an eternity,

492
00:28:27.860 --> 00:28:29.880
not just this temporal world.

493
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.680
And we forget that oftentimes when we show up in public.

494
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:36.400
So together, I think we can do this.

495
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.780
That's why I encourage people to come out of the woodwork,

496
00:28:38.780 --> 00:28:39.920
stand together.

497
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:43.960
In the last, goodness, maybe six years,

498
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:47.480
I've had more calls from parents that have woken up.

499
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:50.120
COVID, I think, was the best gift we ever had,

500
00:28:50.120 --> 00:28:51.600
because parents became aware.

501
00:28:51.600 --> 00:28:55.000
The night before COVID actually shut down the world,

502
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:57.080
I was literally crying out to the Lord,

503
00:28:57.080 --> 00:28:58.880
physically crying out to the Lord.

504
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:00.440
And I just said, Lord, what are we going to do?

505
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:02.360
Our opposition moves faster than we do,

506
00:29:02.360 --> 00:29:04.680
and they never stop, and they work 24-7,

507
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:06.640
and I'm tired, and we can't hold them back.

508
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:08.000
What are we going to do?

509
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.000
And COVID hit, and they shut down the entire world,

510
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:11.940
and every kid in the entire world

511
00:29:11.940 --> 00:29:13.960
was homeschooled overnight.

512
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:15.120
Every single kid.

513
00:29:15.120 --> 00:29:16.080
It's true.

514
00:29:16.080 --> 00:29:20.080
I mean, God always does something amazing.

515
00:29:20.080 --> 00:29:20.920
It's so true.

516
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:22.520
And we get so wrapped up in things,

517
00:29:22.520 --> 00:29:25.080
we forget He doesn't leave His throne.

518
00:29:25.080 --> 00:29:26.480
Right, right.

519
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:27.400
Yeah.

520
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:30.200
Sometimes we want to sit on it ourselves, right?

521
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:31.720
I think, seriously, though,

522
00:29:33.600 --> 00:29:35.120
parents did have to wake up,

523
00:29:35.120 --> 00:29:38.200
because suddenly they're working at home, too,

524
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:39.680
and they're actually really seeing.

525
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:41.840
I mean, it's how this church exploded, right?

526
00:29:41.840 --> 00:29:42.960
This church took a stand.

527
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:46.000
And my phone rang off the hook with parents that said,

528
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:49.040
I didn't know my kids were saying Muslim prayers in school.

529
00:29:49.040 --> 00:29:51.040
I didn't know my kids were reading these certain books.

530
00:29:51.040 --> 00:29:52.680
I didn't know we had these books in the library.

531
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:54.960
I didn't know that my kids in their class

532
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:56.800
had these kind of conversations.

533
00:29:56.800 --> 00:29:57.760
It was crazy.

534
00:29:57.760 --> 00:29:58.680
It was crazy.

535
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:00.000
But it was also awesome.

536
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.200
Because guess what?

537
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:04.160
The hearts of the parents turned toward their kids.

538
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:05.720
And they started paying attention.

539
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:07.800
And they knew something was at stake.

540
00:30:07.800 --> 00:30:10.840
And they had a responsibility.

541
00:30:10.840 --> 00:30:11.840
It's awesome.

542
00:30:11.840 --> 00:30:15.120
And now more and more are becoming aware.

543
00:30:15.120 --> 00:30:18.180
And we have the privilege of walking alongside of them

544
00:30:18.180 --> 00:30:20.840
and helping them take right steps in the public square

545
00:30:20.840 --> 00:30:22.200
to do something about it.

546
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.560
If people want to get a hold of My Faith Votes,

547
00:30:25.560 --> 00:30:28.560
how do they get a hold of you and My Faith Votes?

548
00:30:28.560 --> 00:30:31.600
You know, they can simply go to myfaithvotes.org.

549
00:30:31.600 --> 00:30:35.000
And you can contact us through the website there.

550
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:37.640
So please feel free to go to myfaithvotes.org.

551
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:39.440
And if you'd like to be an action partner

552
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:40.840
and connect with the other, I think

553
00:30:40.840 --> 00:30:44.360
we have 375 action partners so far in Colorado.

554
00:30:44.360 --> 00:30:46.160
But if you want to get connected with them,

555
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:47.880
just sign up to be an action partner.

556
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:49.560
And you can do that at myfaithvotes.org

557
00:30:49.560 --> 00:30:50.360
on the front page.

558
00:30:50.360 --> 00:30:51.200
That's awesome.

559
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:53.120
And just for our listeners, we are

560
00:30:53.120 --> 00:30:57.120
going to be having a lot more of empowering of parents,

561
00:30:57.120 --> 00:31:00.840
apologetics, all under the umbrella of Empower You,

562
00:31:00.840 --> 00:31:02.440
because that's what it's all about.

563
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.160
Debbie, I want to thank you for being here.

564
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:04.680
Wow.

565
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:05.160
My honor.

566
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:05.540
Thank you.

567
00:31:05.540 --> 00:31:06.040
Awesome.

568
00:31:06.040 --> 00:31:06.160
Awesome.

569
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:06.680
Really.

570
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:08.160
We'll have you back again.

571
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:09.880
Take care.