WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:10.000 ♪♪ 2 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:20.020 ♪♪ 3 00:00:20.020 --> 00:00:30.020 ♪♪ 4 00:00:30.020 --> 00:00:35.020 ♪♪ 5 00:00:35.020 --> 00:00:37.020 Welcome back, Kingdom Messenger family. 6 00:00:37.020 --> 00:00:40.020 Bruce and Lindsay here with our newest, 7 00:00:40.020 --> 00:00:43.020 maybe youngest, Kingdom Messenger in the group, 8 00:00:43.020 --> 00:00:45.020 Miss Hannah Lee. 9 00:00:45.020 --> 00:00:47.020 Say, hey, Hannah. 10 00:00:47.020 --> 00:00:51.020 So we are so excited about this bonus session 11 00:00:51.020 --> 00:00:53.020 that we're going to be airing tonight. 12 00:00:53.020 --> 00:00:55.020 This was an interview that I did with Graham, 13 00:00:55.020 --> 00:00:58.020 and I wanted to get into Graham's head 14 00:00:58.020 --> 00:01:00.020 because Graham is someone, like I mentioned before, 15 00:01:00.020 --> 00:01:02.020 who's mentored me in becoming a Kingdom Messenger, 16 00:01:02.020 --> 00:01:04.019 specifically a Kingdom Messenger online, 17 00:01:04.019 --> 00:01:07.020 and Graham doesn't tell me what to think 18 00:01:07.020 --> 00:01:10.020 but how to think about being a Kingdom Messenger, 19 00:01:10.020 --> 00:01:12.020 and so I really appreciate how he talks about 20 00:01:12.020 --> 00:01:14.020 the mindset of a Kingdom Messenger, 21 00:01:14.020 --> 00:01:16.020 which is what this interview is all about. 22 00:01:16.020 --> 00:01:17.020 We're here live. 23 00:01:17.020 --> 00:01:19.020 We're going to be in the comments with you 24 00:01:19.020 --> 00:01:22.020 as this airs, sharing our takeaways. 25 00:01:22.020 --> 00:01:24.020 I would love to hear from you guys in the comments 26 00:01:24.020 --> 00:01:25.020 as well as you listen. 27 00:01:25.020 --> 00:01:26.020 What's resonating? 28 00:01:26.020 --> 00:01:27.020 What is the Lord showing you 29 00:01:27.020 --> 00:01:29.020 as we listen to this interview together? 30 00:01:29.020 --> 00:01:31.020 And we're going to be back at the end of the interview 31 00:01:31.020 --> 00:01:33.020 to share some key takeaways that we think 32 00:01:33.020 --> 00:01:35.020 will be really helpful as you're diving into 33 00:01:35.020 --> 00:01:37.020 the activation of clarifying your message 34 00:01:37.020 --> 00:01:39.020 and defining your audience. 35 00:01:39.020 --> 00:01:42.020 So let's dive into this interview. 36 00:01:42.020 --> 00:01:44.020 Well, Graham, thank you so much for joining us today. 37 00:01:44.020 --> 00:01:47.020 Today we are talking to a group of Kingdom Messengers. 38 00:01:47.020 --> 00:01:50.020 These are people who are passionate about 39 00:01:50.020 --> 00:01:52.020 leveraging the digital landscape 40 00:01:52.020 --> 00:01:54.020 to disciple nations in Kingdom Truth, 41 00:01:54.020 --> 00:01:56.020 and I'm so excited to have you 42 00:01:56.020 --> 00:01:59.020 because you have mentored me in Kingdom Truth for years, 43 00:01:59.020 --> 00:02:02.020 but also you are someone who has pioneered 44 00:02:02.020 --> 00:02:04.020 being a Kingdom Messenger online, 45 00:02:04.020 --> 00:02:07.020 and you have a lot of longevity in that. 46 00:02:07.020 --> 00:02:10.020 So I am looking forward to gleaning from your wisdom today 47 00:02:10.020 --> 00:02:13.020 and hearing about developing a mindset 48 00:02:13.020 --> 00:02:16.020 as a Kingdom Messenger. 49 00:02:16.020 --> 00:02:18.020 So I'm going to go ahead and just dive in. 50 00:02:18.020 --> 00:02:20.020 I think we should start with talking about 51 00:02:20.020 --> 00:02:23.020 crafting that Kingdom message. 52 00:02:23.020 --> 00:02:28.020 What are some key focuses that you kind of keep in mind 53 00:02:28.020 --> 00:02:31.020 when you are crafting a Kingdom message? 54 00:02:31.020 --> 00:02:32.020 Right. 55 00:02:32.020 --> 00:02:36.020 I think the number one thing for me, 56 00:02:36.020 --> 00:02:39.020 there was this brilliant person who once said, 57 00:02:40.020 --> 00:02:43.020 I only do what the Father is doing. 58 00:02:43.020 --> 00:02:46.020 I only say what the Father is saying. 59 00:02:46.020 --> 00:02:51.020 And my meat and my drink is to do the will of him who sent me. 60 00:02:51.020 --> 00:02:54.020 And what he's saying is, 61 00:02:54.020 --> 00:02:57.020 his focus is always mine. 62 00:02:57.020 --> 00:03:00.020 And I think that's the thing you have to find, 63 00:03:00.020 --> 00:03:04.020 is what is the focus of God for your life 64 00:03:04.020 --> 00:03:07.020 and therefore your ministry? 65 00:03:07.020 --> 00:03:13.020 I've been around, I'm in my fifth decade. 66 00:03:13.020 --> 00:03:16.020 Fifth, oh my gosh. 67 00:03:16.020 --> 00:03:20.020 Forty-eight years I've been in this gig. 68 00:03:20.020 --> 00:03:23.020 And I've seen a lot of people in ministry 69 00:03:23.020 --> 00:03:28.020 who think about what people may want to hear. 70 00:03:28.020 --> 00:03:32.020 Or nowadays they talk about, well, what's trending? 71 00:03:32.020 --> 00:03:38.020 And I think Jesus doesn't trend. 72 00:03:38.020 --> 00:03:41.020 He's not bothered about being trendy. 73 00:03:41.020 --> 00:03:45.020 I teach the classic Jesus, 74 00:03:45.020 --> 00:03:49.020 what God is always like all the time. 75 00:03:49.020 --> 00:03:53.020 And so the classic God is always trending. 76 00:03:53.020 --> 00:03:56.020 Once you step away from that, 77 00:03:56.020 --> 00:03:59.020 then you're into a place where you probably 78 00:03:59.020 --> 00:04:04.020 will stop receiving wisdom and revelation at that point. 79 00:04:04.020 --> 00:04:07.020 Because it's always about the nature of God. 80 00:04:07.020 --> 00:04:10.020 So people think about what's trending. 81 00:04:10.020 --> 00:04:15.020 Well, like today, everyone's speaking to people's fear or anxiety, 82 00:04:15.020 --> 00:04:18.019 how not to be fearful, how not to be anxious, 83 00:04:18.019 --> 00:04:22.019 how to get rid of anger, how not to be stressed. 84 00:04:23.020 --> 00:04:27.020 And those things are OK. 85 00:04:27.020 --> 00:04:30.020 But it's not it. 86 00:04:30.020 --> 00:04:32.020 It's not about presence. 87 00:04:32.020 --> 00:04:34.020 It's not about who God is. 88 00:04:34.020 --> 00:04:36.020 It's about how you can avoid that, 89 00:04:36.020 --> 00:04:38.020 how you can avoid this. 90 00:04:38.020 --> 00:04:43.020 I look at a lot of the training sites, 91 00:04:43.020 --> 00:04:47.020 and they're all trending on negativity right now, 92 00:04:47.020 --> 00:04:50.020 how to avoid that, how to be this, or whatever. 93 00:04:50.020 --> 00:04:57.020 The key thing that I'd love your group to get hold of is, 94 00:04:57.020 --> 00:05:00.020 the key question is, 95 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:04.160 What are you called to do? 96 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:08.320 There's nothing wrong with any of that stuff, but there's a heck of a lot of things missing 97 00:05:08.320 --> 00:05:10.880 out of it. 98 00:05:10.880 --> 00:05:18.620 So the source for your training cannot just be about catering for needs at the moment. 99 00:05:18.620 --> 00:05:26.920 It's about curating a lifestyle where people get above things and stay above, because when 100 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:33.180 people can get above stress, they become a totally different person in the world. 101 00:05:33.180 --> 00:05:38.440 And that's our coaching aim, is to get you out of this, into this place, because this 102 00:05:38.440 --> 00:05:41.560 is where you really start to do business. 103 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:44.600 So what are you called to do? 104 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:45.680 What's God calling? 105 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:47.200 What's his purpose for your life? 106 00:05:47.200 --> 00:05:48.760 What's your calling? 107 00:05:48.760 --> 00:05:51.800 What's your mission? 108 00:05:51.800 --> 00:06:00.480 So for me personally, my mission is, I am called to fight religion, to fight legalism, 109 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.640 and to fight against the flesh. 110 00:06:02.640 --> 00:06:08.640 And I do that by talking always about what God is like, about what life in the spirit 111 00:06:08.640 --> 00:06:13.220 is like, about what life in the kingdom is like. 112 00:06:13.220 --> 00:06:20.080 So my mission then is the development of the body of Christ, to really produce the household 113 00:06:20.080 --> 00:06:24.680 of God, and the body of Christ in a given location. 114 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:30.200 So I'm always, I'm talking about the army of God, because at some point, the call to 115 00:06:30.200 --> 00:06:33.000 fight is on every single one of us. 116 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:34.840 You don't avoid this fight. 117 00:06:34.840 --> 00:06:40.200 You know, we're locked into this war between the kingdom of light and the kingdom of darkness. 118 00:06:40.200 --> 00:06:42.280 So you're going to have to fight. 119 00:06:42.280 --> 00:06:45.640 How you fight is really important. 120 00:06:45.640 --> 00:06:54.480 So I'm called, the most appalling thing for me in church world is the lack of unity and 121 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:56.520 the lack of oneness. 122 00:06:56.520 --> 00:07:02.280 You know, all these denominations, networks, call them what you will, but they're all separate 123 00:07:02.280 --> 00:07:09.960 silos where we're doing our own thing, but no one's paying attention to, you know, unity 124 00:07:09.960 --> 00:07:12.400 and oneness in the city. 125 00:07:12.400 --> 00:07:17.000 Where if we are, we're doing it based around events, rather than based around a shared 126 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:23.520 lifestyle that works its way onto the street, you know, where people live. 127 00:07:23.520 --> 00:07:29.120 And another part of my call is I want to represent the nature of God, because whenever I talk 128 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:34.440 to anybody on a plane, in a coffee place, whatever, Christian or pre-Christian, you 129 00:07:34.440 --> 00:07:39.120 know, and I start talking about God, they go, okay, this is my question, what is God 130 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:40.120 really like? 131 00:07:40.840 --> 00:07:43.400 I mean, you sound like you know him. 132 00:07:43.400 --> 00:07:45.640 What is he really, really like? 133 00:07:45.640 --> 00:07:52.280 And I think that should be the number one question that we answer before even people 134 00:07:52.280 --> 00:07:54.080 ask the question. 135 00:07:54.080 --> 00:07:56.360 This is what God is like, you know? 136 00:07:56.360 --> 00:08:03.120 So like the challenge we did today, all of it was about this is what God is like. 137 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:04.120 He's not going to do that. 138 00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:05.120 He does this. 139 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:06.120 This is what he's like. 140 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:07.120 He never changes, you know? 141 00:08:10.440 --> 00:08:21.400 So if you want to know what my calling is, go on BTV, get onto your browser and look 142 00:08:21.400 --> 00:08:22.560 through everything. 143 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:29.280 See the body of work that I've done, and you'll see the purpose all the time. 144 00:08:29.280 --> 00:08:33.280 Over five decades, the purpose hasn't changed. 145 00:08:33.280 --> 00:08:34.679 This is who I am. 146 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:36.240 This is what I do. 147 00:08:36.280 --> 00:08:42.120 You know, I'm always about the kingdom, always about the nature of God, always about 148 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:48.000 identity and who you really are, and I care about that. 149 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.600 I care about people's identity. 150 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:56.400 I really care about it, you know, probably more than most people, but people do. 151 00:08:56.400 --> 00:09:01.060 You know, I want you to live in the fullness of who Jesus is. 152 00:09:01.060 --> 00:09:02.060 So I'm excited. 153 00:09:02.060 --> 00:09:11.060 I'm still as excited now as I was when I started, you know, almost decades ago. 154 00:09:11.060 --> 00:09:17.140 So Graham, how do you partner with the three, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, in delivering your 155 00:09:17.140 --> 00:09:19.740 messages and your prophetic words? 156 00:09:19.740 --> 00:09:26.180 When you start to know your calling, then the different levels of your calling will 157 00:09:26.180 --> 00:09:28.340 become apparent. 158 00:09:28.340 --> 00:09:33.380 If you're a coach, then you're going to be an explorer. 159 00:09:33.380 --> 00:09:38.660 You're going to be exploring areas of life, focus, and so on. 160 00:09:38.660 --> 00:09:43.700 And so you're actually going to be an explorer yourself, and you're going to open people 161 00:09:43.700 --> 00:09:46.460 up to being explorers. 162 00:09:46.460 --> 00:09:50.980 And if you're an explorer, then you're going to be a pioneer. 163 00:09:50.980 --> 00:09:55.280 A pioneer is the first one to do something. 164 00:09:55.280 --> 00:09:59.920 So in the prophetic, I'm a pioneer. 165 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:03.880 I was the first person in British church history 166 00:10:03.880 --> 00:10:06.000 to do a school of prophecy. 167 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:09.880 Because everyone said, you can't teach people how to prophesy. 168 00:10:09.880 --> 00:10:14.760 And so when I started it, I mean, talk about attack. 169 00:10:14.760 --> 00:10:16.760 And now everyone wants to do it. 170 00:10:16.760 --> 00:10:21.200 I was the first to stand up and say, come to this class. 171 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:23.560 I'm going to teach you how to be prophetic. 172 00:10:23.560 --> 00:10:25.280 I'm going to teach you how to prophesy. 173 00:10:25.280 --> 00:10:27.240 I'm going to teach you how to be prophetic. 174 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:33.520 And man alive, just the pushback from leaders 175 00:10:33.520 --> 00:10:36.520 and so on in particular was huge. 176 00:10:36.520 --> 00:10:39.560 And then they came along and then started realizing, 177 00:10:39.560 --> 00:10:43.600 oh, he's doing more than just teaching about the prophetic. 178 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:47.480 He's teaching people how God is with them. 179 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:52.360 So when you're an explorer, you can become a pioneer. 180 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:55.040 But if you marry those two things together, 181 00:10:55.040 --> 00:10:57.960 you will be a game changer. 182 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:00.400 And honestly, that's the point, is 183 00:11:00.400 --> 00:11:06.120 you change the game for people who come to you. 184 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:08.160 And they know what they're going to get. 185 00:11:08.160 --> 00:11:11.560 You're going to open territory because you're an explorer. 186 00:11:11.560 --> 00:11:14.440 You're going to be a pioneer because they will hear 187 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:17.440 something from you they've never heard before. 188 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:19.680 And you're going to change their game. 189 00:11:19.680 --> 00:11:23.440 You're going to up their game just by the way in which you 190 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.720 talk, by the way in which you do your own research, 191 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:32.000 by the way in which you put together your sessions. 192 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:38.200 A lot of ministries, they impart information. 193 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:40.600 They don't impart life. 194 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:42.400 And so part of what you're doing, 195 00:11:42.400 --> 00:11:47.840 that trinity of exploring, pioneering, and game changing 196 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:50.880 is always about the impartation of life. 197 00:11:50.920 --> 00:11:54.800 So people who listen to you will fall in love with learning. 198 00:11:54.800 --> 00:11:57.080 Then they'll fall in love with teaching. 199 00:11:57.080 --> 00:12:01.560 And then they'll be so excited, it will radiate out of you. 200 00:12:01.560 --> 00:12:04.600 And so that's when you pass. 201 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:09.320 In your ministry, you pass from doing into being. 202 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:12.120 And then it's like you and the Lord together. 203 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:14.720 And everyone sees it. 204 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:16.240 They hear it. 205 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:17.440 And they see it. 206 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:21.520 And really that's what we're aiming at. 207 00:12:21.520 --> 00:12:23.600 For me, my goal has never changed. 208 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:26.000 I want to set people free. 209 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:27.640 Everything is about freedom. 210 00:12:27.640 --> 00:12:32.040 I want to equip them to be lovers of God. 211 00:12:32.040 --> 00:12:36.560 I want them to grow up in all things in Jesus. 212 00:12:36.560 --> 00:12:43.760 And I'm still bound to that in love, in unity, 213 00:12:43.760 --> 00:12:45.760 in oneness with God. 214 00:12:45.760 --> 00:12:48.680 Because it's his passion. 215 00:12:48.680 --> 00:12:53.360 So your calling is where God's passion is going 216 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:56.360 to pour through you to other people. 217 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:59.280 So Graham, everyone has perhaps a different process 218 00:12:59.280 --> 00:13:01.000 when they're crafting a message for this. 219 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:02.320 But I just want to hear from you. 220 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:07.040 What are some ways that you receive kingdom revelation 221 00:13:07.040 --> 00:13:11.120 for these messages that you craft and then communicate? 222 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:12.360 Yeah. 223 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:18.240 I think you have to like, creativity really 224 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.520 is about accessing the imagination of God 225 00:13:22.520 --> 00:13:25.080 in terms of how he sees things. 226 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:28.880 When God says, I know the plans I have for you, 227 00:13:28.880 --> 00:13:31.840 not for your calamity, for your welfare, 228 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:37.160 to give you a purpose and a hope, a future and a hope. 229 00:13:37.160 --> 00:13:42.040 So that tells you that he's seeing your lifestyle with him 230 00:13:42.040 --> 00:13:44.560 in a very particular way. 231 00:13:44.560 --> 00:13:48.560 So when I'm imagining, when I'm thinking about a message, 232 00:13:48.560 --> 00:13:50.080 I don't just sit down and think, oh, 233 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.000 it would be good to talk about that. 234 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.280 I'm asking the Lord, what do you want to talk about next? 235 00:13:55.280 --> 00:13:57.960 Because what the Lord is doing and what 236 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:02.880 we're doing as coaches is we're taking people on a journey. 237 00:14:02.880 --> 00:14:08.320 One of our first key series on BTV 238 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:13.040 was story and journey, because everybody has one. 239 00:14:13.040 --> 00:14:16.200 Everybody has a story, and everybody's on a journey. 240 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.120 The two major things that we're coaching into, 241 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:23.880 how can we change your story and change you in the process? 242 00:14:23.880 --> 00:14:25.960 And how do we change your journey 243 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:28.760 so that you're not operating at this level, 244 00:14:28.760 --> 00:14:32.040 but maybe you're operating from this level? 245 00:14:32.040 --> 00:14:37.000 So I imagine it's like when Moses was taking a rabble 246 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:41.960 of slaves from Egypt towards Canaan, 247 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:45.520 he's changing their story from being slaves 248 00:14:45.520 --> 00:14:50.120 to hopefully being a disciplined army that can take territory. 249 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:55.280 But he's reintroducing them to who God is along the way. 250 00:14:55.280 --> 00:15:01.320 And so that whole story and journey of Israel, I have read. 251 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:02.100 through that and thought about that, 252 00:15:02.100 --> 00:15:06.040 and talk to the Lord about it, I don't know, hundreds of times. 253 00:15:06.040 --> 00:15:08.480 Story and journey. 254 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:09.600 What was it like for you? 255 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.640 And even just knowing how God knew 256 00:15:13.640 --> 00:15:16.240 he was going to take them through the wilderness, 257 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:19.400 because he was going to introduce them to what he 258 00:15:19.400 --> 00:15:22.800 can do when you have nothing. 259 00:15:22.800 --> 00:15:28.480 When you're in an inhospitable place and nothing grows, 260 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.800 there's no water, there's no place 261 00:15:31.800 --> 00:15:34.720 to feed over a million people. 262 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:36.820 So God takes you into the wilderness 263 00:15:36.820 --> 00:15:38.960 when he's happy with you. 264 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:41.280 And he opens up everything. 265 00:15:41.280 --> 00:15:42.880 But he takes you into a place, he 266 00:15:42.880 --> 00:15:45.960 allows you to go into a place where nothing's 267 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:49.160 working for you, which is why we coach. 268 00:15:49.160 --> 00:15:52.360 People come to us because nothing's working. 269 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:54.040 And then he teaches them, this is who 270 00:15:54.040 --> 00:15:56.440 I am when you've got nothing. 271 00:15:56.440 --> 00:16:00.880 This is who I am regardless of your circumstances. 272 00:16:00.880 --> 00:16:07.120 And you look at the planning beforehand, how he, 273 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:11.600 even before Moses hits Egypt, God is in the wilderness. 274 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.600 And he's taking out every natural predator 275 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:19.880 in that whole area so that wildlife can flourish. 276 00:16:19.880 --> 00:16:22.960 Because he's got to feed a million people. 277 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:25.200 So he thinks about things like that. 278 00:16:25.640 --> 00:16:29.280 And he finds and he creates an underground stream 279 00:16:29.280 --> 00:16:31.920 and sticks a rock on top of it so he 280 00:16:31.920 --> 00:16:33.880 knows exactly where it is. 281 00:16:33.880 --> 00:16:37.120 Because he's got to feed them, they've got to have water. 282 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:39.520 He thinks about all those things. 283 00:16:39.520 --> 00:16:41.920 And so when I'm thinking about a message, 284 00:16:41.920 --> 00:16:47.320 I'm thinking about what is it you want them to end with. 285 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:49.920 So I start with the end. 286 00:16:49.920 --> 00:16:53.640 What is it I want to achieve through this message? 287 00:16:53.640 --> 00:17:00.560 And so I want to look at what are the keys. 288 00:17:00.560 --> 00:17:02.680 So I start with what's the end result? 289 00:17:02.680 --> 00:17:04.319 What do I want to walk away with? 290 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:06.560 What are they walking away with? 291 00:17:06.560 --> 00:17:09.920 And then I work backwards, tracing the journey back 292 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:12.560 to here, where they're stuck. 293 00:17:12.560 --> 00:17:14.480 Because I know what the outcome is. 294 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:16.319 Now when I walk back, I'm looking 295 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:21.280 at all the potential fault areas, 296 00:17:21.280 --> 00:17:23.960 bugbears, problems. 297 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:26.520 And I create keys for every problem. 298 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:33.720 And next to every key, there's always a promise. 299 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:38.360 And that's when I bring in something prophetic. 300 00:17:38.360 --> 00:17:42.240 Not always prophesying, but always telling people 301 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:45.960 what their future is going to be in a teaching context. 302 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.240 This is why God is doing this. 303 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:52.000 So I take the journey out there. 304 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:54.040 What's the terrain look like? 305 00:17:54.040 --> 00:17:55.240 What is the outcome? 306 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:58.520 And then I trace it back to here. 307 00:17:58.520 --> 00:18:00.920 And I look at all the things I need 308 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.360 to talk about on this journey. 309 00:18:03.360 --> 00:18:07.600 And then I go out again, just to check it out. 310 00:18:07.600 --> 00:18:10.360 And sometimes when I've gone out a second time, 311 00:18:10.360 --> 00:18:14.480 I see something, how I can make the outcome even stronger. 312 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:18.160 I guess the key thing is, who and what 313 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:21.560 do you want to influence through your coaching? 314 00:18:21.560 --> 00:18:23.720 So you're an influencer. 315 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:27.240 And I know that amongst the millennial community, 316 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:30.480 being an influencer is a really big thing. 317 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:34.960 And it wasn't that word, that language, that thinking 318 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:38.080 wasn't even present when I started out in ministry. 319 00:18:38.080 --> 00:18:41.240 It was like, well, just give the best talk you can. 320 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:44.480 And then I realized that I got to a point of dissatisfaction. 321 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:46.600 The Lord said, I haven't called you 322 00:18:46.600 --> 00:18:48.880 to give the best talk you can. 323 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:52.280 I've called you to give the best talk I can. 324 00:18:52.280 --> 00:18:53.600 OK, Graham, so last question. 325 00:18:53.600 --> 00:18:56.720 And I saved this for last, because this, I think, 326 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:00.920 is a huge barrier for people who feel called to be a kingdom 327 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:05.560 messenger, yet are concerned or afraid about putting themselves 328 00:19:05.560 --> 00:19:08.840 out there, especially online, because you kind of open 329 00:19:08.840 --> 00:19:12.120 yourself up to critical comments, 330 00:19:12.120 --> 00:19:13.840 sometimes hateful comments. 331 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:17.000 And I know you've received a lot of hateful and critical 332 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:18.440 comments throughout the years. 333 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:21.720 How do you disempower discouragement 334 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:23.480 when you receive those critical comments, 335 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:25.280 whether it's on social media or in response 336 00:19:25.280 --> 00:19:26.560 to some of your messages? 337 00:19:26.560 --> 00:19:27.280 Yeah. 338 00:19:27.280 --> 00:19:29.640 I think, first of all, the best way 339 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:32.960 to disempower discouragement is to practice 340 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:36.920 being encouraged all the time. 341 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:40.600 I mean, live in a place of, don't visit encouragement. 342 00:19:40.600 --> 00:19:41.840 Live there. 343 00:19:41.840 --> 00:19:43.160 Always be encouraged. 344 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:47.280 Every day, find something to be encouraged about. 345 00:19:47.280 --> 00:19:51.680 So become an optimist, really. 346 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:54.480 Expectation, anticipation, they're 347 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:58.440 all parts of encouragement. 348 00:19:58.440 --> 00:19:59.360 You're focused. 349 00:19:59.360 --> 00:20:01.400 You're looking for. 350 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:07.600 God, you know, I'm encouraged. And then the best way to disempower disappointment 351 00:20:07.600 --> 00:20:15.880 is to be gracious and to forgive people, but also to forgive yourself, you know, 352 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:20.680 when you when you mess something up, when you miss something. Just be quick to 353 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:25.760 forgive yourself, because God is quick to forgive you. There's no like, well, you 354 00:20:25.760 --> 00:20:29.760 know, you have to do penance for like three hours. Go and stand in the corner 355 00:20:29.760 --> 00:20:33.680 or something. There's none of that with God. A lot of those things are 356 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:38.960 instantaneous, because he's just going, let's get that out of the room right now. 357 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:45.040 Okay, now we can do this. He's not going to waste time on disappointment ever, you 358 00:20:45.040 --> 00:20:49.240 know. He just says, you know, it's not like he's saying get over it. He's saying 359 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:55.480 grace is there to empower you. Grace is my empowering presence, because grace 360 00:20:55.480 --> 00:21:01.360 tells you how I see you. So think about what I say. So I'm really, you know, 361 00:21:01.360 --> 00:21:08.520 curious about that, you know, how God thinks about me all the time. And God 362 00:21:08.520 --> 00:21:13.680 knows, as I said, God doesn't get disillusioned with us, because he never 363 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:19.120 had any illusions in the first place. He knows everything about us, 364 00:21:19.120 --> 00:21:25.520 and he loves us. So that's huge. He remembers that we're dust, you know. 365 00:21:25.520 --> 00:21:32.560 And the thing I love about God is he's not an idealist. He's a realist with a 366 00:21:32.560 --> 00:21:39.760 strong sense of mercy, goodness, and kindness. You know, he knows who 367 00:21:39.760 --> 00:21:47.240 we are, and he knows how to be with us. He's a genius at it. So for me, I take the 368 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:51.800 viewpoint to answer your question, everything is useful. But here's the 369 00:21:51.800 --> 00:22:00.600 thing is, how are you going to grow in kindness if you don't have negatives all 370 00:22:00.600 --> 00:22:08.120 around you? How does the fruit of kindness grow? 371 00:22:08.120 --> 00:22:14.280 It grows in the soil of a situation where someone's just said something 372 00:22:14.520 --> 00:22:24.720 really unkind and cutting to you. And your answer is to respond with kindness. 373 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:32.240 That's it. You know, you don't ever defend yourself. You just say 374 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:37.560 something kind back. So I began to practice that. People came up to me and 375 00:22:37.560 --> 00:22:43.320 says, you know, your stuff is like really simplistic. You know, it's this, it's that, 376 00:22:43.320 --> 00:22:50.800 it's the other. And I would just look at them and say, you know, these are 377 00:22:50.800 --> 00:22:55.440 three things that God likes about you. He likes this, he likes this, he likes this. 378 00:22:55.440 --> 00:23:00.360 And I think he, like, those are the areas in your life where you're going to 379 00:23:00.360 --> 00:23:07.520 connect with him the most. I might say the same thing to 3,000 people, because a 380 00:23:07.520 --> 00:23:11.320 lot of things are always going to be true. So it's not like it's going to be 381 00:23:11.320 --> 00:23:17.680 prophetic or anything. It's just true. It's the truth that sets everyone free. 382 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:22.960 This is how God sees you. And so I would just say something really kind or 383 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:30.600 generous back. And then they're looking at you thinking, oh, shoot, or words to 384 00:23:30.600 --> 00:23:36.400 that effect. You know, what? And they feel awkward, but I don't want them to feel 385 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:43.080 awkward. But in that moment, they're just realizing something, you know. So, you 386 00:23:43.080 --> 00:23:49.280 know, with all the hate mail I got, that's what I always did. I just sent 387 00:23:49.280 --> 00:23:53.840 something in the opposite spirit. Because that's the thing, that is something that 388 00:23:53.840 --> 00:24:01.040 is rarely trained in to people these days, how to move in the opposite spirit. 389 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:06.640 You know, and I think the fruit of the spirit for me, they're all opportunities 390 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:13.280 to engage with people and to practice. So when you get negative things being said 391 00:24:13.280 --> 00:24:19.720 to you, you get to practice the fruit of the spirit. How is that not good? It's 392 00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:22.160 like extra practice, you know. 393 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:26.960 Well, there is a lot to chew on from that interview. I know, I feel like we 394 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:30.920 covered a lot of ground in a short amount of time. It was so much fun to 395 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:34.280 just be watching this interview with you guys, interacting in the comments, sharing 396 00:24:34.280 --> 00:24:37.280 our takeaways, sharing what was resonating with us as we listen to Graham 397 00:24:37.280 --> 00:24:41.240 share on, just taking on the mindset of a Kingdom Messenger. If you're wondering 398 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:44.600 where Bruce and Hannah are, Hannah did not make it through the interview. She is 399 00:24:44.600 --> 00:24:49.880 down to sleep. That's why I'm back here flying solo. But before we go for the 400 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:52.800 evening, or for some of you it's afternoon or morning, depending on 401 00:24:52.800 --> 00:24:56.000 where you're watching in the world, I just wanted to make sure we didn't miss 402 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:59.000 this big highlight that Graham shared that I think is going to be super 403 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:00.040 helpful as you're 404 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:05.080 Diving into the activation from today of clarifying your message and defining your audience. 405 00:25:05.080 --> 00:25:08.320 But also I think it's going to be really helpful that you keep at the forefront as you continue 406 00:25:08.320 --> 00:25:13.880 on with this workshop, especially as we start to create content for our kingdom channels. 407 00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:18.360 And that is Graham talked about partnering with the imagination of God, taking on God's 408 00:25:18.360 --> 00:25:19.360 imagination. 409 00:25:19.360 --> 00:25:21.280 You know, this is such good news. 410 00:25:21.280 --> 00:25:24.680 The Bible says that we have been given the mind of Christ. 411 00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:29.040 That means we can see things the way Jesus sees things. 412 00:25:29.040 --> 00:25:33.160 We can think about things the way that Jesus thinks about things. 413 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:38.640 So we can partner with God's imagination, his limitless imagination. 414 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:40.380 And God is a big thinker. 415 00:25:40.380 --> 00:25:41.920 So we don't have to be stuck. 416 00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:42.920 We don't have to feel limited. 417 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:48.880 And as we're creating content and inviting people in to cultivate kingdom lifestyles 418 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:52.520 based around the breakthroughs that we've had in our own lives, whether it's physical 419 00:25:52.520 --> 00:25:59.320 healing or peace or revelation of our identity, revelation of health and wellness, building 420 00:25:59.320 --> 00:26:05.840 kingdom families, all of those things, we can do so with the mind of Christ. 421 00:26:05.840 --> 00:26:09.760 We can, we can partner with the imagination of God. 422 00:26:09.760 --> 00:26:12.080 So let's think big this week. 423 00:26:12.080 --> 00:26:15.040 Let's throw off limited, limited thinking. 424 00:26:15.040 --> 00:26:20.840 And let's remember who we're partnering with in this father, son, and Holy Spirit. 425 00:26:20.840 --> 00:26:27.080 We have got a rockstar team partnering with us in advancing the kingdom here on earth. 426 00:26:27.080 --> 00:26:28.240 So we're not alone. 427 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:32.280 We don't have to stay stuck and we don't have to be overwhelmed by anything but the goodness 428 00:26:32.280 --> 00:26:33.280 of God. 429 00:26:33.280 --> 00:26:35.300 I hope you guys enjoyed that interview. 430 00:26:35.300 --> 00:26:40.760 We will be back tomorrow live with Hannah Brencher Sheets at 2 p.m. Eastern. 431 00:26:40.760 --> 00:26:45.260 And just like yesterday, we can watch on zoom or live on Facebook and the replays will be 432 00:26:45.260 --> 00:26:47.280 available if you can't make it live. 433 00:26:47.280 --> 00:26:49.200 Guys, we will see you tomorrow.