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It is a real honor to be live now

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with the Systems Master himself, Sebastian Harris.

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And Seb and I, we build everything together.

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So everything that I've done has got,

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if you look closely, everything that I've done

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has got Sebastian's fingerprints all over it.

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He is the Systems Master for our company.

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And it's such an honor to be live with you today, my man.

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And so why don't you introduce yourself a little bit?

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Where are you based?

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What's happening in your world?

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Yeah, love it.

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Well, Benji, thanks for bringing me on.

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It's a privilege to run with you

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and to make stuff happen with you.

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You get to dream of days where you get to...

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People dream of days where they get to build stuff

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and like, and we're doing it, which is fun.

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Well, I was born in Australia, grew up in New Zealand,

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done a lot of travel around the world,

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missions, work, business, all kinds of stuff.

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And I live just north of San Diego, California

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in a little town called Carlsbad, which is by the ocean.

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The ocean is just out there, which is super nice.

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And I spend my life helping people build systems

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with digital marketing, with organizational structure,

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stuff like that, that changes the way we live our lives.

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So it's been fun.

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Cool, man.

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So we're gonna jump into this whole conversation

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around automation and like the mindset shift

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that is to kind of step into this place.

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So can you just tell me like what you've seen

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in the whole area of, I feel like it's a growing trend,

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but this growing trend of people discovering

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they can actually trade value for money

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rather than only trading time for money.

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Yeah, totally.

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I mean, it's interesting because if you choose

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to give yourself to a nine to five work life,

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you're essentially giving away your most valuable asset

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in exchange for a small amount of value.

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So as you deep dive into really asking yourself

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the questions, how am I actually spending my life

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with the only limited resource that we have, which is time,

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then you have to ask yourself the question,

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how do I maximize the potential of my time

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to be able to make that happen?

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So it all starts with the whole question

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of automation and systems all starts with the question

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and the reality of the fact that my time is limited,

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but there's a potential, if money is unlimited,

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if a resource is unlimited, unlimited people,

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if there's unlimited potential in everything

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that I'm doing in my life, then I have to figure out

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how to maximize the amount of impact that I can make

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with the hours and the minutes and the seconds

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that I have in my life,

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which then gets you to ask the question,

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how can I do this?

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So people get stuck.

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What I've seen is that people get stuck thinking,

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well, I have to go to university then to upgrade my skills

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so that I can earn more an hour.

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Well, the problem with that thinking

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is that you're still limiting the potential of your life

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based on time, as opposed to how,

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it's like how hard can you work in an hour

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or how much money are you worth in an hour

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becomes the entire metric, right?

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As opposed to thinking,

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how much value could I give to somebody

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and flipping the question

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from how much money am I worth in an hour

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to how much value can I give somebody over a period of time

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that produces a project-based, value-based impact

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that changes the nations.

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So it's a powerful shift,

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but it starts here by thinking, where is my value?

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What's limited and what's not?

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And how can I manage that?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And I think even for myself,

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I was so shocked seeing this play out

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because I was in a, you know, I was in a nine,

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I was, you know, I had that mindset

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of I get my money from my work, you know, even as a pastor.

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So I was pastoring and, you know, you get a weekly wage,

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which really wasn't very much at all.

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But what I actually started to do is I,

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even when I was pastoring

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and I was working in the space of digital marketing,

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creating automated systems,

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I started to find that what I made in my sleep

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in a single night would start to surpass

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what I made in my day job all week long.

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So talk to me about that.

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With automated systems, what's the potential?

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I guess we know when it's 9 to 5, this is my cap, your cap, but what's the cap when

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it comes to automation?

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When it comes to, in terms of a cap of impact and income, what is the cap when it comes

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to automation?

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I mean, it's something we've talked about a lot, Benji, is if you can figure out how

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to turn $1 into $2, you never have to figure out anything for the rest of your life.

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But the only way that that's possible is through automation.

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So instead of turning one hour into $100, the flipping of the switch becomes, well,

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if I can take the $1 I have and turn it into $2, then that becomes a system that if you

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automate and scale, can create something.

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So the power of automation is the ability to utilize and implement systems that work

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for you, rather than you working for your system, because that's what tends to happen

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with business owners, right?

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They build a system and then really they become a slave to the system, as opposed to taking

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on this mindset of governance and rulership, where I get to rule over the systems and make

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the systems work for me.

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That mindset flip is right there.

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I remember the first time I made $10,000 in a month was awesome, but I made it because

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I was working three jobs.

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And for me, it was this realization of like, oh, I've kind of hit this dream space, but

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I'm working 70, 80 hours a week to kind of make the dream happen, rather than utilizing

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systems.

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And so the entire focus of my life started to shift when I realized that if I could use

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the systems, then it would.

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I guess on that, I guess that's interesting because that $10,000 mark is such a dream

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for so many people.

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I remember the first time hitting, through automated systems, hitting $10,000 in a month.

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And then I remember doing $10,000 in a week, and then I remember doing over $10,000 in

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a day, and just thinking, oh my gosh, it doesn't make sense anymore to trade time for

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money when you can trade value for money, and it just takes the cat right off.

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But yeah, because you're right, your only ability to increase your impact, right?

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So it's not like when you make $10,000 plus in a day, you have also impacted a lot of

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people in a day.

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So it's kind of the impact and the income are connected when you're in the space of

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kingdom business, because every dollar you make is attached to value added to people's

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lives.

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And there's another really cool question as well, I think that I've seen in terms of people

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who are doing marketing really well, something that I appreciate about them is that they

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actually, even the secular people who are trying to figure out how to do marketing well,

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are becoming more and more kingdom minded.

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They've always got a few snakes and hustles out there, but the people who do it really

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well are actually thinking, oh, wow, maybe business shouldn't be about ripping people

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off, maybe business should be about helping bridge the gap from where people are to the

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fulfillment of their dreams.

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Totally.

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And it's crazy, because, you know, it really is true, the more people you serve, the more

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money you make.

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And like, you take an example, like, we'll take Amazon.

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Amazon's a great example, one of the first publicly traded company in the United States

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and around the world to hit a trillion dollar market cap, which is amazing.

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But the only way they did that is through building automated systems and structures.

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Jeff Bezos, who's actually his last day of CEO was yesterday, he just transitioned, has

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an ultra ridiculous high net worth.

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But when he was CEO, do you think he was sending out books on Amazon still?

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No, because he's built systems and structures so that he can make hundreds of

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thousands and millions of dollars while he sleeps.

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And like, that's really the key, right?

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Amazon is serving the world.

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Take Facebook, for example, Facebook, whether you love it or not, is serving the

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world. They have a what's called a BHAG or a big, hairy, audacious goal to connect the

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entire world.

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That's.

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their BHAC, their goal is like to connect the entire world. And

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as a result, they're hitting the same kind of level of impact

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because of the amount of people they're serving. Google, same,

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same thing. Google is the number one search engine in the entire

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world. And they're serving people through information,

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which is, which is amazing. So that the whole that what people

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start to get, and what is so kingdom about the way God does

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business in what how business works in the world is exactly

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that, Benji, the more people you serve, the more impact you

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choose to have, the more money that you'll eventually make.

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Cool, man. Hey, so I just want you to chat for a moment around

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this concept of how does automation change things for for

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businesses, right? So if a business is wanting to grow into

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the space of automation, how does automation change things

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for businesses? And then how does automation just

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how does automation change things for the average person?

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You know, what's the lifestyle benefits? Like what, what, what

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changes when someone goes from this mindset of time for money,

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or they're in a business that's not automated? When they step

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into that world of automation? What are the what are the big

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changes? What do you see people experiencing?

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Yeah, totally. Number one thing I see people experiencing is

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shock. Firstly, it's shock. They're like, oh, my goodness,

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I could actually have got time, I could think about other

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things, I could think about other resources, I can do all

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this time to think, you know, they, in all of that time that

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we spend building businesses, the one thing that I

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consistently hear business owners say that I haven't got

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enough time to think, or time to create or time to be

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innovative, or engage in those kinds of things. So that's the

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number one win, is that you're creating time to do the things

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that really matter. Yes. Do you, right? Create, innovate, do

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the things that matter, as opposed to crushing it on sales.

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The second thing,

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let me just interrupt you for a second, just because, um, yeah,

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Alana and I just got to write a book together, which was so much

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fun, you know, and I think that, like time that when you create

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time, and you're able to do things like that, like write a

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book, which was so much fun, and we created couples workbooks and

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singles workbooks, but so much fun creating, doing something

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like that, it's going to bless the world like crazy. But at the

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same time, it's a, it's an amazing product that's going to

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produce a huge amount of both impact and income. So it's kind

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of like you get caught in the avalanche, like in the momentum

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that it snowballs in the sense of, oh, you get a little bit

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more time, you can create something, and then that becomes

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another stream of income. And then you're like, Oh, well, what

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will we do next? And we'll create this. So you know, I've

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written two books in the last, you know, in the last eight

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Amazing. It's awesome. Yeah. And the next thing that I see it

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really does for people is that open up streams of income that

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you never thought were possible, that maybe business owners never

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thought were possible. So there's that shock of the time

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that's possible. But when you start to see that you can be

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running ads on Facebook or Google or whatever your ad

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platform of choice, and then that goes through a funnel, and

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people organically are clicking through things, and they land on

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an order page, they make a sale, the sale lands in your bank

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account. And that can happen while you're sleeping. Because

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people are constantly seeing ads are making things happen. When

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25 years ago, when the internet didn't really exist, you can do

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that because people were you would see a billboard, but then

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maybe with a phone number on it. And on the phone number, you had

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to call them during work hours to be able to access the point

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of sale to be able to get the product shipped to you. Now with

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digital products and services, you can make a sale in the

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entire time you're asleep.

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Yeah, absolutely. I've just shown you here, this is my phone

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and it's not very focused for you there. But I just made a

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sale before. These are all like sales going through. So a bunch

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of those were in my sleep. Another one was just, you know,

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before while I was doing something. So yes, it's pretty

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exciting.

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Yeah, it's amazing. Because you get to think about the resource

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that you've just both of those two things that I just mentioned

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time and money is what what changes is the biggest thing

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that changes the game so that you can really create an impact.

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And you know, like I said before, if you can figure out

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how to create a system that turns $1 into two consistently,

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you'll never have to figure out another system. Because you can

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just add more $1 into the system that doubles it. And you just

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you've got an

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exponentially growing thing, which is amazing.

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how the people who are the wise and well-respected servants

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were the ones who turned two into four or five into 10.

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they were given authority over cities and nations

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because of their ability to steward and increase.

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was called a wicked and lazy servant

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and was told that it would be better for him

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to have a millstone hung around his neck.

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So there's a lot going on in there.

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is that that wicked, lazy servant,

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because it's both Luke 10, the parable of the miners,

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and then Matthew 25, the parable of talents,

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the interesting thing about both those servants

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is they didn't lose any money.

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They hadn't gone out and lost any money,

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but they hadn't learned to multiply it.

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I think it's so missed in our life.

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we talked about the five jars.

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It's a Jewish financial principle that we both know well,

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but it's the 10% for tiling, 10% for offering,

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10% for saving, 20% for investing, and then a little above 50%.

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from the time their kids are young,

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and they're implementing it their whole time,

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well, they can live off 50% or less,

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because it's really easy to live off 50% of heaps,

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and it's really difficult to live off 100% of nothing.

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they talk about investing twice as much

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as they talk about tithing,

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and then they live in abundance.

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always talks about tithing,

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and majority of the time lives in poverty.

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So it's again, it's this big mindset shift

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of actually catching the heart

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of what Jesus was really about in the parable of the talents

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is that financial stewardship is understanding

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that we aren't called to just save our money.

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looked like saving money and just holding it

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and not wasting it,

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then that servant would have been given a pat on the back.

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in that parable.

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What he was commending is people who developed wisdom,

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people who went and learned,

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people who figured it out.

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And it's such a process.

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What have you been through in that process

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of the shift, the mindset shift?

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How have you learned?

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How have you grown?

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How have you gone on the process?

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Because for me, I was definitely that lazy, wicked servant.

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I had no idea in the sense that I could save some money

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if I was lucky,

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but understanding how to multiply wealth

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was not something that I understood in the past.

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So for you, how did that change?

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What journey did you go on to discover?

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Like when the light bulb went on,

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what happened for you?

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Yeah, it was interesting.

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And I assume it's okay to share some

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kind of more mystical stories here in this space.

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But I had an encounter a number of years ago

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where I had the spirit of wealth,

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which is the spirit of the Lord,

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come into my room and kind of like start to,

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there was a manifestation of the spirit of God

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through wealth that started to pursue me

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was the word I would use.

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And I processed it, I processed a lot.

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And then I started to have this encounter

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with another angel that was called the angel of leverage.

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started to permeate through my life,

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which led me to ask the natural questions of,

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okay, what does it look like for somebody to have leverage?

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It was really this concept of leverage

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that led to automation, where I was asking the question,

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if I was to want to have an impact over 10,000 people

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and I only have access to 100 people,

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what would leverage look like?

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to reach the 10,000.

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this is the same concept of multiplication, right?

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Jesus, in the parable of feeding of the 5,000,

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sits people down, puts them in groups,

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organizes them and uses the system of multiplication

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from heaven to release favor to them.

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So there's this whole concept

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of like multiplication that happened.

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But anyways, it was really through engaging

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with the concept of funnels and understanding funnels

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and sales systems that really took me through that journey

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to have the light bulb really go off, to say,

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oh, I can actually have something that's working for me.

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Because it's one thing to have leverage with people.

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It's another thing to have leverage with a system

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that's totally digital and.

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totally automated.

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And so my process kind of looked a little bit like that.

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Can you just explain, we've got like a minute left,

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can you just say, help someone understand what's a funnel,

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what do you mean by a funnel?

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Yeah, funnel is basically a fancy website

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that's a series of different pages, web pages,

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that takes you through a process to catch a sale.

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So that could, they could have videos on them,

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they could have text or letters on them,

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sales letters, different things like that,

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all on websites that you access through links,

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through maybe through Facebook ads or something like that,

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that leads people through a process that gets to sales.

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So there's a lot there, but-

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Very cool.

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Well, just cool to touch on that.

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And as we go through this series,

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so this is a little bonus interview

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in our series that we're doing this week

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on automated kingdom impact and income.

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So we've got another session tomorrow,

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they're just 20 minute sessions

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and with some bonus interviews, which is cool.

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So tomorrow we're talking about high ticket sales,

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how you can kind of transition your life

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into a place of earning more from one sale

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than you do in a week at your day job,

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which is a good vibe.

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I tell you that is a very, very good space

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when you wake up in the morning

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and you have earned more in your sleep

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through an automated sale

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than you could earn in a week at your day job.

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So this is a really exciting space

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we're talking about tomorrow, high ticket sales.

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And at the end of this week,

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we are giving away free kingdom businesses

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with over $10,000, okay?

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So this is gonna be pretty awesome.

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This is insanely awesome, exciting, generous moment.

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So stay tuned for us,

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we're gonna be unpacking that as we go through this week.

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So bless you guys, heaps, and Sid,

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thank you so much, man.

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It's so, so good to chat

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and feel free to drop questions in the comments

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if you guys have got questions

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about what we're talking about

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and follow through this training.

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If you missed it,

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go to the Raising Royalty Masterclass Group

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and you can catch the replay from yesterday and today

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and you'll be able to catch all the future ones too.

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So bless you.

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Sid, once again, thank you so much.

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Why don't you wrap it up for us with a prayer?

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Father God, we thank you for your outrageous blessings,

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your outrageous goodness.

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And I thank you that you've given every person

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under the sound of my voice,

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the ability to produce wealth,

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as it says in Deuteronomy 8.18.

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I pray that there would be a supernatural grace

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upon everybody listening

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to understand the automated systems and structures

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that it takes to receive the glory of heaven

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through wealth in this season for such a time as this.

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In Jesus' name, amen.

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Amen, beautiful.

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Bless you, my man.

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Thanks so much.

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And we'll catch you soon.

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See ya.

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Bye.
