hello hello hello hello beautiful people good to have you jumping in got a couple of early birds
welcome and hey tina and lucas and carrie great to see you guys
very very cool to to be with you and if you are catching this in the facebook group if you're
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to drop your comments uh your questions in the comments and we'll do our best to answer those
on the run in the future as well so very cool um lucas how are you doing where are you bud
i'm fine i was i was going to sleep you know and i will i see that you have zoom call
that's why i'm here yeah very cool so you're in germany
yes right now i'm in germany but i think soon i will move to africa
yes my next stop is like it was uh my journey here in germany for a while and the next stop i
believe in will be you know uganda my heart is beating into africa i don't know you know i
know it's the mission for me you know i love children my destiny is children and and and
and yeah i think this is my next stop i have a lot of people there
how are you guys how are you guys doing great yeah amazing so where's everyone else from in the world
welcome claire welcome elizabeth welcome good to see you guys carrie and tina very good having you
here there it is there it is you guys you feel feel very free to uh to comment to chat uh for
now we're still um still early so feel free to connect claire how you doing hi hi great to see
you it's really exciting yeah great how uh we're about to you uk uk and uh you got a lot out of the
five jars by the looks of things yeah i'm loving it absolutely loving it it's just um absolute
revelation to me it's just what i need to hear right now yes fantastic do you want to just now
while we've got a moment um do you want to just take a moment just to share uh testimony like
what's been happening for you what's what's standing out for you from the master class so far
um i think it's i've been feeling that um tithing wasn't quite what the lord's heart was and um you
know we've been living by faith for quite some time and um it seemed to dry up i seem to dry up
a bit and i was like what's happening um and i just felt there was something far more that i was
missing and so when you talked about the five jars um i was like oh these lights started going off i
was like yes i need to hear um so i'm excited to hear more oh fantastic well that's great well you
get to bring a lot of the content today rachel how are you doing good to see you
that's good denise welcome good to see these beautiful faces
uh elizabeth it'd be great to hear from you what's been happening for you what are you getting out of
the journey so far um well the biggest thing is that my husband's actually watching the videos
and enjoying them which is all so it's it's always good to have him on board right so he
can pray and help me and um so that's the biggest thing but um we we our church was actually doing
something on tithing too so what we've started to do is as soon as we get a check we automatically
tithe that to our church so we it's not sitting and we accidentally use it so our our first
squats to god every time yeah awesome very good very cool uh well we're gonna launch into it now
because we got just um we got just under an hour to make the most of this beautiful moment so
uh um i'm just gonna check in the facebook group in a moment
well but Zania and Seb it is a huge honor to have Zania and Seb as our guest speakers with us
today and why don't I just hand over to each of you and give you each you know a moment to
introduce yourselves but I love these guys heaps and I'll share more with you shortly on why
I love them so much but my goodness these guys are absolutely phenomenal I'm really excited
tomorrow and Seb is going to be bringing a message on the wealth files which is really really
exciting and Zania it's been amazing having you in the journey and I just love you guys so
why don't you introduce yourself a little bit to the crew and then we'll hand over to Seb to help
say hello yay okay so to introduce myself I'm Zania but you can call me Z people call me Z as
well nickname I am a mum of two and I am in love with God and I how do I what do I need to say
I love I just want I love helping people live their dreams and I coach people in that I
I mean I'm just that's who I am I'm just excited about people living a life that they're wildly
excited about living in their God-given destiny and purpose and that when I'm coaching people
I know that it takes money to do that and I love that I love like going on my own journey
as well as taking other people with me I've just like taking every limitation off so that we are
really walking in what God has for us and don't like religion I don't like what
like that religious spirit or just lies around money and yeah I can't stand what that has done
so many generations I can't stand what it has done for families and so I like to be right in
the middle of like learning transforming helping more people yeah take those limits off and go
after like all the abundance that God has for them so that's a little bit about me beautiful fantastic
all right and Sid my man yeah hey guys great to great to see your smiling faces it's
amazing to be here I grew up in New Zealand born in Australia though so those of you know a little
bit about the New Zealand Australia sporting conflict that's a real story in my life but now
I live in California San Diego California with my wife we moved here recently and we're stoked
to be here a little bit about me I work a lot with I love working with entrepreneurs of all
different kinds around the world and one of the one of the things that kind of motivates people
the most is either well there's two kinds of things they either want to impact millions of
people or they want to make millions of dollars and the truth is you can't do one without the
other like to impact millions you've got to have millions and to to make millions you've got to
impact millions and so that's that's probably one of my biggest driving passions at the moment
and the heartbeat really behind why I'm here so that's me that's amazing fantastic well said we'll
get you to pray for us please my man and you guys as well make sure you feel free to utilize the
chat or if you're on Facebook we've got a bunch of people watching on Facebook as well and some of
there'll be more people watching the replay for sure so feel free to put comments on the Facebook
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on Facebook so feel free to put questions there and also feel free we'll do our best to catch up
with everything in the chat here but see why don't you pray and then we'll open it up and
create the opportunity for everyone to ask questions let's do it all right well
holy spirit we welcome your presence father we welcome you as the king of kings and lord of
lords and we right now we just enthrone your presence over everything that we're going to
talk about everything that we're going to hear and say and participate in today god we enthrone
you we enthrone your glory above everything that we do everything that we say and and right now
lord we just we just we step into your revelation 22 river right now that flows from the throne
we turn ourselves
in the river towards your throne, ready to receive all the good, pleasing, and
perfect gifts that heaven's throne wants to release to us. God, we open our hearts
right now to receive the gifts from heaven that you're pouring out, the
pleasures from heaven, the revelation from heaven, the wealth from heaven, the
goodness from heaven. God, we position ourselves to receive it. In your name we
pray, thank you Lord, amen. Beautiful, beautiful, thank you Seb, thank you Zee
for being here, and now family, cool thing about today is we didn't have to
prep any messages, it's all over to you, so if you've got questions then feel
free to drop them in the chat, or wave your hands, or put them in the comments
on Facebook, and we will launch into it, and we've got just under an hour,
so you want to be first in, first served.
Yes, Jane, oh no, Jane looks like she's adjusting something, we're going to give this, oh yeah,
Clare's got a question, go for Clare. I wanted to ask, you talked about Benji making money while you sleep,
I just, I just wondered how? That's a good question, I wondered that too, I
wondered that too, and that is a very good question in our world, how do you make
money while you sleep, and the winning, the even bigger winning factor of how
do my kids make money while they sleep, so what a great question, and I think, I think
what I want to do right now is, because like that's a journey right, and you need
someone to open a door for you into that process, right, so, so I was in this place
where I was trying to figure that out, I was trying to figure out how to do
multiple streams of income, I was trying to figure out how to, how to create
automated income, and I was making some progress there, but what I want to, what
I want to just say, just as we kind of get going, something that's really cool
is, you know, everything is going to require someone to open a door for you,
first off, people aren't going to open a door for you unless you're knocking on
the door first, right, like the hungry get fed in this game, so the first thing
that you've got to have is that desire, and that's what we talked about Tanya and I in the first thing,
is desire is, is the first thing, you've got to have that desire, but I wanted to say
right now, the awesome thing about having Tanya and Seth here is that Zee opened a massive door for me to step
into a world of increased levels of automation in my life, which is the key,
so Zee opened a huge door for me into, into this whole space of the online world,
which is amazing, so I'm so grateful to Zee, because she's opened a space that's
literally shaped the course of, like, shaped the rest of my life, you know,
someone can open a door for you, and it might not seem like they put a lot of
work in to open the door, but the fact that they opened a door changes the rest of your life, so it's awesome about having Seth and Zee here, is that Zee opened a door for me that changed the rest of my life, and then I was able to, after Zee opened a door for me,
because it's actually quite easy to open doors, but it changes lives forever, I was then able to open the door for Seth, so if you actually look at Zee right now, what you've got happening there is, is legacy, like, she opens a door for one person, then that person gets to open a door for another person,
that's actually how kingdom, like, economic reformation starts and spreads, is just one person opens a door for another, one person opens a door for another, and all of a sudden, you can start having huge impact, like Seth was saying, talking about impacting millions of lives,
but Seth, she's talking about automation here, why don't I give, hand this to you for a moment to make, to say something about automation, how you make money in your sleep, why don't you say something there, my man?
Yeah, totally, you know, making money in your sleep sounds complicated if it's like, if you've never thought about it before, because, you know, most people, when they think about money, they think about, well, I have to trade my time in order to create money.
Not only a 500 million, yeah, it's really the biggest lie that we get into with money is, is the fact that it's, it's attached to time. But if, if money becomes detached from time, then there's a lot more scalability, right? So for example, people, people go to college,
they go get an MBA or something like that,
then maybe they've gone and done a bachelor's degree,
they go get an MBA,
hoping that they're going to basically
just increase the amount of money
that they can earn per hour.
And so you have to either increase the amount of hours
you can work a week,
or you have to dramatically increase the amount
that you're worth to do that.
But what if that's a broken paradigm?
And what if you could actually get paid exponentially
where your money is detached from time?
That's the real question
behind making money while you sleep.
So if your money is attached, let me recap that.
If your money is attached to time,
you can't make money while you sleep.
But if you're willing to step in
and build systems and structures that work for you,
just like when money works for you
rather than working for money,
like Benji said the other day,
he's talking about money is a terrible master
because we're meant to be masters or rulers over money.
And so if money gets to be working for you,
it's not attached to time.
There's a few sneaky little thoughts in there.
Yeah.
So anything to add there on,
how is it that you can make money while you're sleeping?
How is it that you can wake up and see your account
and there's money that's appeared in your account,
but you haven't been to work?
Yeah.
Well, I think it's important to know
that there are actually many ways
to make money while you sleep,
and a lot of people are doing it.
So you find people that are doing it,
and then, or you find people that are doing what you want,
except for doing what you want to do,
make money, but they've automated it so that,
I mean, find people that are doing what you want to do,
but making money in their sleep.
And then you follow that pattern.
So for me, I have always wanted to have a business online
because I know I want to be on mission trips.
I want to be on adventures with my children.
I want to go to sleep, wake up,
there's money in my account.
So I've always known online is the way for me
because of the lifestyle that I want to live.
So, and there are many ways you can make money online.
You can have a look at what we do.
You can have a look at what someone else does,
but that's, I think,
that's the journey we would love to take you on
is learning, yeah, how you can tap into a system,
instructions and things like that.
Wow.
Yeah.
Totally.
But there are people that are doing it and a lot of them.
And so, yeah, that there's always an opportunity
for an open door for you too.
Wow.
Yeah, absolutely.
I would say that there's, right now,
there's never been more people making money in their sleep
than there is right now in world history.
Yeah.
And there's only three things that, you know,
that there's only three things that can get in your way,
right?
It's mindset, skill sets and systems.
So if you want to change your story,
you've got to change your mindset, skill sets and systems.
I remember back in the day, right?
When I was six years old,
got my, not my first job,
but one of my first jobs at six years old.
And it was weeding thistles on our farm.
So my parents had bought a farm
and I was going to get paid one cent per thistle.
So I'm six years old.
I get my weeding hoe.
I put it on the front of my bike
because we were renting down the road
and we had this, you know, this block of land.
I got on my bike with my hoe across the front of the bike.
I rode, you know, a couple of Ks,
maybe two or three Ks to the farm
and at six o'clock in the morning,
I'm like, it's on.
Like, I love back in the day, right?
Back in the day, you could do whatever.
You could ride around on the back of the truck.
And like, there was lots of stuff that's illegal now
and people look at you funny,
but back in the day, kids riding around with, you know,
hoes, you can't really,
you gotta be careful how you say that.
Kids riding around with hoes on their bikes,
but that was all good back in the day.
And so anyway, there I am all like,
I'm hustling.
I'm there at six o'clock in the morning.
I'm working.
And my goal was to make like a thousand thistles out
that day.
Later on, like eight hours later,
my brother and sister turn up leisurely,
do a little bit of work.
And I'm like, I'm going for it.
And I'm like, yes, I finally get to a thousand.
And when it comes to payday,
I'm like, dad, I did a thousand.
And they were like, whatever, he only did a hundred.
And because a thousand seems far-fetched,
but I like, even when I was little,
I liked doing far-fetched things, you know?
And so they're like, dad,
leave my brother and sister's like there's probably a hundred some wasn't
I was like six o'clock man I was there but so you know what I did I earned a
dollar and a dollar so if you but like my best day in earnings is over $10,000
in a day so how do you go from a dollar a day right like sounds like world
vision my dad actually worked for world vision for over a decade so I know that
story right like a dollar a day that was me I was the kid who's getting a dollar
a day but or you could do over $10,000 and they the difference right is it's
mindsets and skill sets and systems and that actually it's achievable for me to
learn it's achievable for me to learn that and that's like simple saying you
got people paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to go to university right
yeah doctors in the decade 10 years of intense like I've got friends who are
doctors and it is insane what they go through and the amount that they have
to learn and if you look at their skill set versus my skill set yeah I know a
lot I've applied myself a lot but I have not had to do anywhere near the amount
of work that they had to do to get the results that they've got and I get
better results is that kind of like it's what you've got in the online space is
you've actually got an opportunity to be disproportionately successful it's I'm
not saying it's easy because everything if you want to make money when you sleep
you're gonna have like there's five things that are gonna stop you right so
there's the mindset skills it's a system you need those but then you're gonna
have to have like you're gonna have to have work ethic you're gonna have to put
some you're gonna have to put some time in there's one other thing there I've
forgotten it but I'll just say that the one thing right the one thing that makes
every barrier and every other challenge irrelevant oh yeah you're gonna you're
gonna have to have work ethic you're gonna have to take some risk you have to
put some money in and it always starts like that but the one thing that trumps
all of those is the will right if you've got the will to make it happen nothing
will stop you because it's so possible that if you've got the will to make it
happen anyone can actually do it if they apply themselves
yeah and and maybe one short thing clear on that as well as you have to sell
something right if you're not going to do time for money you have to sell
something so you need something to sell you've got it you just you have to have
something to sell and so if you want something to sell you know it has to
have value it has to change lives in some way has to impact people and so the
cool thing about the online space is that you know even just in the so far
this year you know with what we're doing online and the online space we've
literally impacted the lives of tens of thousands of people so yeah and that's
through through automation through system so I can't coach you on all of
those right now I can't open the door and say hey this is the door we walk
through is learning about this so yeah automation that's really that's really
helpful thank you I've made some notes so thank you so much it's really helpful
I think I'm sorry you go now just saying I love your passion all of you it rubs
off okay and I was gonna say when you are like creating wealth or when you
making money it's asking yourself the question all the time okay what problems
can I solve for people yes how many how many people can I help yeah and that and
that's obviously a lot more when you're online you're available to millions of
people online and we are the people that I can help yeah and go get them how
do you find out where they are that that's it that's quite a specialist
thing is it well I tell you what when they're online they're everywhere every
country they're right there and billions of people live in your pocket now it's
like billions of people live in your pocket if you know you know and so so I
said my skill sets and systems show you how I connect with all of those people
so it's a journey learning all of those things and that's but that's our space
that's literally what we do that's our job that's all day in day out we help
people in that process of sitting that up I've helped hundreds of people in the
last year to help create systems and have systems that will work for them to
create residual income stream thank you very cool right oh we've got a next
question
Any questions there? Lining up. Lucas, are you going in for a question? Or is Denise?
Yeah, I have a question. How long time approximately we will have some income? Because I was talking
with one woman from you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was talking with her. And this is like approximately
that when I think I will go to Africa that I will have a passive income because it's
up to that. And that is my question. Because what I know that you are selling your products
like books or something. And what we are doing in this, we are like advertising in
our social media or something like this. Is it funerals or how it works? And this is to
my question, I think. Great. So your question is, if we were to help you set up an online
business, how long would it take for you to make money? Okay, so. Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah,
good. Brilliant question. Brilliant question. So let me try and tell you a story. Let me
try and do it like a story. Imagine two people, imagine two people get a start of business
and two people start exactly the same business. And one person, you know, they never open,
they never, they're actually never open for business. You know, they never open the door,
they never turn up. So they've got a business, they've got stuff to sell, but they never
actually open the doors. And so no one ever comes into the shop, so they never sell anything,
right? Because they just haven't done anything. Whereas another person is open, you know,
they do their five days a week and actually buy themselves and they put some effort in
to get it going. And guess what? Oh my gosh, that person makes a bunch of sales. So what
I'm saying is if you start an online business or if you help get us to help you start one,
it really depends on, you know, like mindset, skill sets and systems. Do you need to upgrade
some mindset, skill sets and systems? Are you going to apply yourself? Are you going to go all
in? You know, like even, you know, for example, how long does it take? The timeline is irrelevant
in terms of how you can start making money immediately. And we recently had, you know,
someone who they started a business with us and on their very first day, they, you know,
they processed a really significant, you know, a large sale, thousands of dollars in New Zealand
currency sale on their first day. And that's because they applied themselves, they implemented
the training. So there can be a process of learning. There's always a process that can
unfold there, a process of learning and growing if you're going to build a business or start a
business in the online space. So, but at the end of the day, if you start a business, it's your
business and you get to host it, you get to carry that. Seb, can I just pass that to you as well,
just to carry on any thoughts on stewarding a business? Yeah, you know, one of the things I
said to entrepreneurs all the time is that you can only move as fast as you're willing to be
obedient. And in the kingdom, that's how it works. You know, you're only able to move as fast. Let me
say that again. You're only willing to move. You can only move as fast as your obedience.
Now, I'm not saying that's to us. I'm saying that's to God and what God wants to do. If you
truly believe, which is what we're trying to communicate to you guys, is that God is for
you creating a legacy in your finances. If you truly believe that, if you're in alignment with
that truth, God is going to lead you on how to make every single sale and how to build the systems
to make the sales or to produce what God has called you to produce. Deuteronomy 8.18 says,
the Lord your God gives you the ability to produce wealth because it confirms your covenant with him.
What does that mean? It means that your covenant with God actually gives you the ability to produce
wealth, right? And so the journey of wealth creation is not void of intimacy with the Holy
Spirit, listening to his voice, stepping in and making those steps, and processing with God your
expectations about what you want to see happen, what he has for you, and how that manifests in your life.
So yes, like there's a timeline for everything, but you'll only move as fast as
your obedience to the voice of the Lord.
Beautiful, thanks Steve. That was a great response, I love that.
Lucas, does that help?
for you, Mofri?
Yeah, I think so, because, you know, I asked the same question of Almayne, Almayne, yeah?
And she said, because, you know, I need to analyze everything because I live in Germany
and it's in Munich, everything is a little bit expensive, and I need to analyze how much
money I need to put and how much money after how long time I need to wait to take it out.
And she said something about three months, that's why I was, because I, I can be like
all in, you know, because I love to learn and I think I'm learning fast.
That's why I was curious, you know, like three months, okay, that I need to put here, here,
here.
And that's why I'm asking you, because it was like, you know, I'm here because of you,
because you know, God gave me you and right now, like, when I start to feel that fire
that I said, okay, I'm in.
That's why I'm asking.
Now, a little story, like our story in terms of even launching Raising Royalty.
So I was already, I've been involved in online space for quite a long time doing a range
of different things.
But then the, like, and I was already carrying something similar to the vision of Raising
Royalty and I was doing similar things already, but actually what we're doing with Raising
Royalty, like I had this encounter with God last year and, and he just made it really,
really clear that it was time to birth what, what was being carried on the inside.
He's like, it's time.
And I was like, oh my gosh.
And so for me, for example, right.
And starting a business, I was like, oh God, like, are you serious?
This is intense.
I'm going to start a business.
Like, that's a big deal.
What does that look like?
And so there's this whole world of uncertainty, right.
And, and you've got that, like the reality is if you want to start a business, there's
the, nothing is guaranteed for you.
And this is one of the reasons why I said yesterday, in terms of investment or starting
businesses, like the culture and the kingdom is a risk taking culture.
It really is a massive part of the kingdom is that, that like faith is all about risk.
You know, if you are a kingdom person, then risk and faith are just such normal parts
of our journey.
And so for me, I was in this place where I was like, God called me to go all in to start
a business with no, like no safety lines, right.
No backup plan.
He's like, I want you to go all in on this.
And so I spent about, you know, quarter of a million dollars into this business of, of
launching it, of getting it going.
But when I started, right, I didn't have a big slush fund of money sitting there.
I probably had, you know, I had a handful of cash, but not a whole lot, you know, maybe
less than 20 grand or something when I started.
And I actually, you know, Steve was one of the first people that came on board with me.
I was like, dude, we want to like start this thing.
He's like, yeah, man, I'll help you out in this process.
And so we went all in, took a risk, not knowing what the heck it would look like.
And I was like, okay, no, like I'm going all in on this.
And I'm not saying this has to be what it looks like for anyone else.
I'm just saying this is what it looked like for me.
But there's a beauty, like there is a beautiful dynamic of putting yourself in a place with
God where you've got no option but success.
Because I put more in the space where I was like, I have to succeed or it's really, really
bad for my family, right?
My wife always looks at me funny anyway.
She's already got like, you're going to do what Benji?
I don't need to give her another excuse to look at me funny and go, what crazy idea is
this now?
You're going to do what?
So I was like in the space where I'm like, okay, God's calling me to step out right now.
I had some choices though, right?
I could have got a job at the supermarket.
I could have got a job at Mike 10.
I could have got a job just doing something, you know, meaningless with my life.
So it's not like I wasn't like risk was all around me, right?
There was risk all around me.
And this is like, this is it for you too, right?
Whether you like it or not, you're in a place of risk and it just depends on what your end
goal is as to what you see as most dangerous.
See, when you, so part of the process, right?
We first walk in sonship.
This is what I was talking about yesterday.
We first walk in sonship and then we walk in royalty.
Once we really start understanding our identity, we actually mature into royalty.
And once you understand your royalty, you start walking in royalty.
The world is not enough.
You know, like working at Mike 10, it's like no way, because you've got a vision for creating
a dynasty of your family, which is the full measure.
Like when the gospel and the kingdom have full expression in your life, you go way beyond
survival.
And when the gospel and the kingdom have full expression in your life, it looks like your
family literally becomes a dynasty.
Your family becomes a royalty.
dynasty that for multiple generations to come, your family is engaged in the process of discipling
nation. So is that what you want? Is that what you're actually pursuing or going after? Because
you will not find that working at the supermarket. You're like, working at the supermarket might be
safe for you, but you won't find your destiny there, you know, in all its fullness. So I had
to choose. I'm like, what risk do I want to take? Because whatever option you take in life is full
of risk. And so God's like, okay, I want you to start this business. I'm like, well, it's crazy
full of risk, but then it's just lit up, right? It lit up and it blew up and out. You know, if I
worked at the supermarket, you know, there's risk there too, because if I'm trading my time for
money, what if I get sick? And if I get sick and I can't work, then, oh no. You know, like,
there goes my income if I get sick and work because I've got a time for money job. But
if I'm in a business, what if there's no more sales in the future? You know, what if I can't
add any value to anyone's life in the future? Yes, there's risk absolutely everywhere around.
It's just what risk are you taking? You're going to, are you risking, you know, by taking your
safe job, are you risking your destiny that, you know, because your family will never step
into that royal dynasty if you stay locked time for money. Until you transition to value from,
value for money instead of time for money, you'll never step into the full measure of what you
are called for. There has to be an investing business dynamic somewhere in your system,
in your cycle. So, for me, I was put in a place where I had no option but to succeed and that's
where my life is right now. You're running a business, being a father, having a big dream,
it puts you in a place where you've got no option but to succeed and God loves that space, right?
And my business operates in that space because every single day we just, I just wake up and do
whatever the Holy Spirit says. So, I'm backed into a corner where my life is in a place of
dependency where every day I have to listen, hear the Holy Spirit and say, okay, Holy Spirit,
what are we doing today? And it's beautiful and that works, all right? And historically,
biblically, God's very, very faithful and always providing the wisdom, the strategies,
the mindsets, the skill sets, the systems, the divine appointments. You wouldn't believe some
of the crazy divine appointments. They just keep popping up everywhere. Everything we need just
appears in our hand the moment we need it. Amazing. Yeah. It really is. It's phenomenal.
I think like, sorry, no, I was just going to say like the best thing in life is being able to say,
yes, God, every moment, just like, and it's so good to have, like be running a business that can
still work for you while you're saying yes to whatever God asks you to do. So good. It's
honestly, it's just the best. Okay. I see Denise putting her hands up.
Denise, welcome. We love you, Denise. Great to have you there. Great to-
Love you guys.
Before you go, before you jump in with your question, Denise, what's been good for you so
far in the process, in the adventure for you? What have you been enjoying in the Masterclass?
I really enjoyed all the videos that you posted, the last three,
but the one thing that I realized was it's, I shifted to the mindset of
royalty, but making it with the big family, like we have six kids and outgoings and things. In a
sense, I'm, even Morgan, both of us can see where we came from, like you from a background of
orphans. And I think my parents were like half, half investing and same like in between. But
for me, it's a matter of seeing myself now and seeing my future generations to be able to be
I really believe that my whole family should be discipling nations and I love nations. I'm really
passionate about getting people the understanding of sonship and creating opportunities to bring
people out of slavery into their own things, really passionate about it. But financially,
right now, where we at, it's a little bit backed into the corner because it holds us back from
really stepping into that. And so Morgan and I been really thinking about what it's the changes
that we have to do and which ones are going to be.
the ones that we can do for our children. So their time asset, it's obviously most important.
But for me, it's more the question you said, you know, what we need something to sell,
you know, and I presume in our passion, you know, there must be something that God can download
to run with. Now, I know that the online skills, online staff, it's very out there, you know,
immediately. But I'm just curious, because if everybody does the same thing, you don't have
have the same to sell? Or, you know, how do you know when the idea it's really driven by,
I mean, by your passion? Or is it an idea that runs flat?
Yeah, that's a good question. So how are you going to, if I was to summarize that, in terms of
the last part of your question, you're like, how the heck do you come up with a product? How the
heck do you come up with something to sell? Especially online, right? Because online
is primarily digital product, like digital products, you know, digital products are amazing,
because with a digital product, usually what happens, right, is you have a higher front end
cost to create the product. So for myself, $250,000. And primarily, that's been creating
products, creating something. But then the cool thing about about digital products is once you
create products, you have a high one off expense. But then, you know, if it's a file, if you can
deliver it in email, then your ongoing production cost is really low. So creating products in the
online space is a real, it's a real dynamic, because how are you going to create something
that people want to buy in a world where there's so much stuff? So that's where there's a lot of
problem solving that goes into that. And I'll say, like, there's solutions, right? So for me,
when I started in the online space, one of the things that really, really helped me
get to a place where I was able to actually start making 10s of 1000s of dollars in sales,
and actually been able to like legitimately say I'm providing for my family was not selling my
own products. So I didn't start by selling my own products. That makes sense. Like, it's so it's
called like, in the online space, it's called affiliate marketing, you find other companies
who've already spent the hundreds of 1000s or millions of dollars to create the products.
And sell on their behalf for a commission. So that if you want to kickstart, if you want to
kickstart in the online space, then an affiliate business is the fastest way to do it, right?
Because you will drive yourself crazy trying to create a product, you know, if you spend $50,000
in the product process of creating products and services, and then find out it sucks.
That's a really, that's a bad Christmas present. You know, like, find out on Christmas Day that
your whole idea is a flop. It's like, oh, that was unfortunate. But honestly, so many people,
that's what happens for them. So haven't got something that's tested, they have, you know,
they starting out, they're like a lot of you guys, they're in a space where they're just
starting out, they want to get going. And they're not really sure if they haven't mastered their
own products yet. So if you're in that space, you haven't really mastered your own products yet,
if you're in that space, you haven't really mastered your own products, and you haven't
mastered mindset, skill sets and systems, the best way is to do what I did, which is I started
out selling other people's products for a commission. And that made everything way easier
for me, because I didn't have to do the branding, I don't have to do, I don't have to spend, you
know, like if I was I was selling stuff, you know, companies that are like multimillion dollar
companies. And they spent, you know, a lot of money to make a system that was really easy for
me to work. So in that sense, you can kind of piggyback, you know, you can piggyback and that's
what we do for other people now, is we we have a company that helps we allow other people to
sell our products for a commission. Because it just it, what basically that that, you know,
those barriers of mindset, skill sets and systems, the biggest barrier, see, I think,
the biggest barriers, you know, really, it's the systems. That's the, the systems is the one that
costs the most. And so we provide the systems for people that do all the automation, you know, like,
like Claire was wondering like how do you create automated systems and run ads and all of those
things so we just provide systems for people and then which is like your business is always like
just a series of systems so we provide the business which is a series of systems and then
you can learn to steward it which is the mindsets and the skill sets is how you're going to steward
the systems so yeah um Seb Z what were you chucking on there? Another thing that um is
really good to think about is having something that what's worked for us is that we have a high
like high commission products from other companies so we're not having to sell a lot of little
things you know you know like if you sell if you're making a thousand dollars per item you
only have to sell ten a month to get ten thousand a month but if you're selling something where
you're only making ten dollars uh for each thing you sell then you just have to work a whole lot
harder to sell that or to like create ten thousand dollars a month so it just makes sense to have
high commission products that you are that you have as an affiliate product. Yeah it's a it's a
like that um that it takes more work to sell a high ticket product than a low ticket product
it actually takes exactly the same amount of work to sell a low ticket product as it does to sell a
high ticket product yeah um and so why not why not sell a high ticket something that's actually
going to create some some income for you um at a quicker pace than something that's just low ticket
yeah thank you yeah that's awesome that's awesome it's a big deal so when you when you are checking
out what you want to do you know if you're like okay i want to start an online space
the thing that we did that because you'll find that so many people start an online space and
give up because it can be really really really hard right and you do have to like that's why
i said will is so important like even for us like you know for me especially when i'm starting out
and through the process that there has been times where it's been hard you know it's been like oh my
gosh but at the same time um who who finds that same thing with going to work you know going to
a work environment where everyone hates you that's hard right like what type of heart do you want
so i think sometimes you have to put reality in perspective like it's hard to be broke
you know it's really hard to be broke it's it's going to be even harder to be on your
deathbed and have the realization that all you're passing on to the future generations is scraps
but you're adding nothing significant to your family life and that's that's hard
right so the question is not are you going to have to do hard things life is a guarantee you
have to do hard things you don't you there's no out there's no way out you have to do hard things
like this morning i was up you know most mornings this week i've been up at 4 a.m not everyone's
like that i just love it you're like i have time i just get up and have hours with the lord and
i do crazy stuff and last week he's like oh you know benji we should get up now it's at 2 a.m i'm
like okay i mean you're the boss let's do this i was kind of like i'd kind of be like into sleeping
right now but hey if 2 a.m is where how we're rolling we'll roll like that and i'm not saying
it's always like that but what i'm saying is i i love it i love that you just have to choose your
heart like what type of heart do you want do you want to be in that place you're struggling because
you broke we're going to be in that place because you're hustling because your heart's on fire with
a dream to create a dynasty for your family that create that create something that goes for
generations and generations to come you position your family line to be literally a royal dynasty
of the kingdom that's discipling nations now i would take that hard over the heart of being on
my deathbed realizing all i'm passing on is scraps so i would i would change to be honest i would
change i would rather have a hard life my whole life and work hard every single day of my life
and go through whatever process and hustle and grind that i have to go through between now my
deathbed i would rather go through hardship uh you know because i'm building something phenomenal
every single day to the last day of my life but then get to the last day of my life and then
and after that beyond have that conversation with jesus after my life is done and i'm you know like
i'm finally giving account to my life for jesus and look back over something yeah we did it you
know like look at them they are rocking it now um so what heart would you like that's the heart that
i would choose um so yeah you're gonna have you're gonna have lots of hard whichever way it is you go
but the thing to consider is what's the fruits what's the
what's the potential of your heart, you know, that the potential of your heart of a nine to five is
locked in, you know, it's just like, okay, this is all you can ever get. And the moment you stop
working it, it stops providing. That's it. It's just a tiny little, like there's a tiny capacity
for reward for that heart. Whereas doing what I'm doing, the heart that I'm doing, the capacity for
return is a multi-generational royal dynasty. And so what you want to think about is what are you
aligning with in terms of the possibility? It's going to be hard either way. Yeah. For me,
it's more the question, you know, what kind of platform do I lean to? You know, like you said,
there is so many products that you could sell on behalf of somebody or things like that. For me,
it's important that my integrity or our integrity, it's on a clean platform. And I wouldn't want to
market something that I couldn't stand behind it. And that's what I was looking for more like,
well, how do you choose which ones to go with as, you know, purity of heart makes such a difference
in God's kingdom. Is that you want to speak on alignment for a moment there? Because that's
such a big question. Yeah. So, yeah, you have values. Everyone has values. You have priorities.
And being yourself, like being completely you and being in your original design that God has for you
and your identity, that's really, that should be one of your top values. And so,
like, I 100% agree with what you're saying. Like, it has to be you. And when you're out of alignment,
you know, if you're doing something that's out of alignment, it's going to feel yuck.
It's not going to be cool with your spirit, your body, your soul, nothing. So, and that's why you
have the Holy Spirit and you have discernment and you do. You just go after something that you can
align with, where you get to be yourself. So, yeah, that's all I can say is I agree with you.
And you won't find that thing unless you keep searching. You know, it's like going to a church,
you know, you can go to that church and, you know, it's a totally different flavor from another
church. And one feels like home and one feels like you're just like a little visitor, you know.
It's the same with business. You've got to find what you can align with. I mean, yeah.
Beautiful.
Agree. Go after.
Thank you.
Great stuff. Hey, thanks, Denise. And one more question before we wrap it up. So, if you
really got a question burning, then go for it. Otherwise, we, I see Andy here saying,
I don't want to be selling pens, vacuum cleaners, or encyclopedias.
Yeah, I mean, obviously for us, that's exactly where we're at too, Denise. So, this is what we
do. We help people sell affiliate products. And so, we've created a range of Kingdom products that
are selling that, you know, that we've spent all the time and energy creating and testing and all
of that that are selling. So, we've created systems and then we train people in mindset
skill sets. So, mindset skill sets is always going to be on the individual to develop that.
And I would recommend people back in themselves in the corner where success is the only option.
Because when you start a business, most people never put themselves in the place where success
is your only option. And if success is not your only option, like if you've got other options,
then you'll kind of avoid the hard thing, right? If it's like, oh, that's going to be a little bit
harder, I'll deviate around that, but you won't get the result, right? So, it's always good to
be in a place in a sense where you have no option but to make something succeed. There's real value
in that. There's real value in being in a place where if this doesn't work, I've got no backup
plan. So, God, show me how it works. And wisdom, the wisdom of God has a solution for everything
that you will ever face. That's just reality. If you lean into wisdom, the spirit of wisdom is no
joke. The spirit of wisdom is a reality and the spirit of wisdom is what leads our business, you
know? Spirit of wisdom turns up and brings solutions and then we're like, hey, now we know what to do.
And now we know how to succeed. So, I guess just in response to Andy's question there about,
I don't want to sell pens, backing cleaners, or encyclopedias.
a Christian suggestion. Yeah, we help people sell kingdom resources and products that are
fully aligned with the whole vision of Discipling Nation. So when it comes to alignment,
we thought about this like, well, really it was spiritual wisdom and encounters with God that
actually showed us the whole process of what we did before we even started. Because the process
that we've been on has been like, okay, God, what are you doing? And we want to get on that train.
As opposed to God, this is what we're doing, bless it. It's been the other way around. It's
like, okay, God, what are we doing? You lead the way and help us see what you're doing so we can
be a part of it. And so we're like, what's God doing in the earth? The thing that God's doing
in the earth right now is he is sparking a movement of kingdom royalty, Discipling Nations
through Fulfilled Dreams. And so what are we doing? Well, we've got a company that is a movement
of kingdom royalty, Discipling Nations through Fulfilled Dreams. So where did that statement
come from? That statement came from looking at what is God doing in the earth and aligning with
what God's doing in the earth, rather than saying, right, this is what we're going to do. And God,
you better align. So in terms of that dynamic from Andy, then, yeah, as raising royalty as
a business, as a company, the thing that God gave us, he's like, you know what works in the
online space, which is high ticket. You know what people need, which is systems and automation.
You know where people are stuck. You know how to do that. Why don't you create all the systems
and then provide the mindsets and the skillsets training that actually help people bridge that
gap so that people can go from, it's like someone like you, Denise, so people can go from stuck
where you're stuck. This is that whole dynamic, right, of changing things and shifting up from
time for money to value for money. If you're in that place of value for money, you look at where
people are stuck and you bridge the gap from where they are to the dream that they're called to live
in. And that way, when you add value, people are just so blown away because you're actually helping
them take that step to where they want to be. And that's how you break out of the time for money
cycle is you go, wow, how can I help people? So for us, that's what we do is like, man, how can we
help people be a part of this move of God? How can we help them serve? How can we help people
step into that? So that really is for us what we do. We help people do all those things that work
for us. We've recreated it, but all kingdom. Because we had that problem, Denise, ourselves
where what we were selling multiple times, the platform that we were on changed under our feet
and cost me tens of thousands of dollars because what I had built into, because it wasn't kingdom,
because we didn't control it, they changed the value underneath us. And all of a sudden,
it was so out of alignment that I couldn't participate in it. And something that spent
tens of thousands of dollars in, I had to go back to the drawing board, start again from scratch.
I'm like, ah, God, it was after big problems like that, that I had encountered with wisdom
is that, no, you're going to set up a kingdom one from scratch. And our dream so far is going
to be like, what's our dream? Our dream is to actually connect thousands of people around
the world and with what we're doing. And because there's so much power in corporately standing
together, imagine if you look at like big issues, so our company, right, what we want to do is
disciple nations. That's our end goal. Our end goal is like, okay, we want to disciple nations.
How do we get there? The way that God wants to disciple nations right now is by helping people
bring their dreams to life. Because your dreams, when our dreams are fulfilled, they disciple
nations. That's how God's always designed it. But the problem right now is people like most
Christians aren't living their dream, not even close. And they're being robbed of their dreams
because of financial problems. If all of you guys had an unlimited amount of money right now,
what would you create? If you woke up tomorrow and you had an unlimited amount of money,
what would you create? And if you can tell me you would do anything, if you can tell me you
would do one thing differently to what you're doing right now, what that tells me is that
finances are robbing you of your dreams. That's just the math. That's the reality of it. Finances
are robbing us all of our dreams right now. So there's finances, there's people not actually
knowing how to, not knowing the process of how to bring a dream to life and identity. Those are
the big three things that got Christians stuck. So those are the big three areas that we serve people
in. We help them get unstuck out of that. And so our dream is to connect with thousands of people,
bring them to stand together. Because if you look at media right now, the world is under siege.
by there's a small group of people with a multitude like just vast amounts of money
and because they've got vast amounts of money they control the narrative on the planet
but if we flip the script we don't need we don't need to have um you know lots and lots of
millionaires and billionaires and trillionaires right if we have like a vast amount of people
who stand together all bringing a small amount of money to put in together we can literally
flip the script of the narrative on the planet and so our big picture which we'll explain more
in the the movement maker when that comes out on sunday morning um in that movement making
presentation you're going to see our dna our heartbeat exactly how we do all of this so i
would say um don't miss that and see um and z want to hand it back over to you guys for um
uh hand it hand it over to you guys really just for a wrap-up
i i can't can't like what you just said benji i just wrote it down like
that if you you know like a lack of finances is robbing people from their dreams
and this is what this is about and then um
what was the other thing yeah just discipling nations is just helping people turn their dreams
to life and that's why we're pairing these two things together finances with your dreams
let's go for it but yeah love everything you said benji i love it
totally same same vibe here you know i had this moment probably a couple months ago now
where the lord just really impressed upon me um the idea he said to me you're not called to be broke
um and it just it just sat there with me you know that it's not i've god has not called you to be
god has not called you to be broke he's not called you to live um in lack lack is not a
thing in the kingdom and you're um you have permission to take a wild step to take a risk
and step into everything that benji and z have been saying you have permission to do that and
god will back you up on your risk every decision made in faith is a good decision so let it be
right and if i can add to that you're you're not called to be broke and you're not called
to be average like if you can see something if you can imagine it you actually have the ability
to create it because god lives inside you like you are limitless so it only makes sense that
we step up in our spirit and expect and like raise a step like expect more and raise the
standard of how we live it and um we have uh we have the bible we have jesus as a representative
of what is available to us like what we can do and beyond of course but yeah we aren't we aren't
average so wherever you're at wherever you are at right now we we can ten times the way we live
our life we can um we can majorly upgrade in every area of our life and so like catch that in your
spirit before we um close it down that yeah catch it in your spirit like right where i'm at right
now is not where i'm staying beautiful but i need to raise the standard of like raise the level
raise the standard and raise the expectation of what god has for me and step into it now
because now is the time not even not tomorrow
yeah beautiful beautiful well thanks um cbs just ducked off to his next appointment so
thank you to seb and zhanya so give those guys a clap we appreciate you we love you thank you so
much uh you guys are in for a real treat tomorrow because tomorrow we have the wealth files with
seb so seb is going to crack open some really amazing uh training around the spirit of wealth
which is really powerful so uh there's going to be a real kind of encounter dynamic tomorrow with
what seb is sharing um which is going to be fantastic and then uh sunday morning 7 a.m
new zealand time we are releasing the movement maker presentation okay so this really is a big
deal the movement maker presentation is got like all the answers to the other to the next questions
So how do we do this?
Like the Movement Maker presentation
on Sunday morning, 7 a.m.,
we'll actually unpack everything for you.
So don't miss that live at 7 a.m. on Sunday morning,
the Movement Maker presentation.
Now it's a long presentation, okay?
It's not a 10 minute presentation.
It's an hour, it's about an hour 45.
So it's a really significant presentation,
but it gives you so much content information,
how it can work to actually step into this world.
It answers so many questions.
It gives the backstory.
It kind of breaks everything down
for anyone who is in a place like,
yeah, you know what?
I would want to take a step
to actually launch something for myself.
You're gonna see what I believe
is one of the most exciting.
This is so exciting that I've put myself
in a position where I've got no other option
but to bring this dream to life.
I'm so delighted and it's like thriving.
It's amazing what's happening,
but we literally created a space.
There's an opportunity to be a part
of what God's doing right now,
which I'm so, so excited about.
So 7 a.m. New Zealand time,
don't miss the Movement Maker
when we release that presentation.
It's really powerful.
Got some deep backstory,
but ultimately it's gonna give you a pathway forward
to not just start a business,
but it's actually gonna give you,
ultimately it's gonna be a pathway forward
to how to be a part of a movement of God in the earth,
because that's what the world needs right now.
And a lot of what you're seeing
in the Movement Maker release right now is in response.
It's not something done 10 years ago.
It's something fresh right now, present reality.
What does the world need?
How do we need to respond to everything
that's unfolding in the world right now?
How can we stand as a movement?
How can we stand as the body of Christ?
How can we raise up together?
How can we be giant slayers?
How can we literally flip the script on darkness
and outdream darkness?
And how can we partner together to actually do this?
Not just be like at your home group
where you talk about it and nothing happens, right?
Not just be at your church where you're like,
oh yeah, we should do something amazing
and nothing happens.
This is different.
This is a movement that actually makes stuff happen.
And things are happening.
Massive things are happening.
And we wanna invite you to be a part of it
because as we stand together,
then we actually create the opportunity for all of us
to step into the limitless possibilities
available in Christ.
And so this lights me up like crazy.
So get ready for Sunday morning, 7 a.m. New Zealand time,
the Movement Maker being released.
And tomorrow, 10 a.m. New Zealand time,
SED will be releasing really exciting training
on the Wealth Files.
And then after that,
there will just be a few kind of little bits and pieces,
but that will be the majority of the masterclass done.
I will say that one reason why you don't wanna miss
the Movement Maker is because once you understand
the Movement Maker, at the end of that,
after that's happened, I'm gonna talk you through how,
how to get a $2,500 mentoring program
that I'm gonna give away for free.
Okay, so I am just putting that out there
that if you wanna find out how to get that,
which actually walks you through that process
of how to actually do this,
you wanna figure out how to get a $2,500 mentoring program
for free that will actually fast track you
through this process,
then definitely watch the Movement Maker
because once you've seen that,
it helps to understand how valuable that will be
and how it's gonna be.
So I love you guys very much.
NZ, can I hand over to you to wrap it up in a prayer for us?
Yeah, okay.
Let's all like get ready to catch.
Let's get ready to catch.
Oh, God.
Thank you, Lord, right now that you would breathe life
into everyone's dreams.
Open our eyes to see with your vision,
the vision that you have for our lives.
Breathe life, unlock our spirits,
unlock our ability to dream so that we can dream bigger
and really align with you in heaven's finest for us, God.
Father, I thank you that you would expand our hearts
and increase the capacity of our hearts
to hold more people in there, Lord,
to love more people,
to dream and love people so much more
that it aligns with you and our dreams
and our purpose and our God-given destiny.
Just breathe life, Lord.
We thank you for the testimonies
that are gonna come out of it.
God, that you would just anoint people's minds,
anoint people's spirits, anoint people's bodies
and prepare them.
Prepare us, Lord, for the more,
prepare us more to raise our standards,
prepare us more to raise the expectation
of what you have for us, Lord.
God, we take you at your word
that you are able to do through us exceedingly.
abundantly, more than we can ask, more than we can dream, or more than we can
imagine, and we step into it now, Amen.
We love you guys so much, bless you all, and it's such an honour to be sharing this journey with you, love you, and we'll catch you soon for the rest of the Masterclass, bye bye.
Thank you.