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This is the top of the hour.

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So I'm so excited to be here with you guys.

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You are in phase two, Love Story Accelerator.

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Some of you have just joined us for the first time.

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Some of you have been here for a few weeks.

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And so what we like to do on Tuesday nights is,

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Bethany and I pay attention to everything

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that you guys are putting in the chat,

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questions that are coming up.

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And she is a genius at summarizing some themes

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of what we're gonna kind of go over.

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So I usually spend the front part

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going over some housekeeping,

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some themes that are coming up

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and giving just some reminder teachings for y'all.

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And then the show, the floor is yours.

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And so this is a chance for you guys to come in.

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And so consider this like small group coaching, really.

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And it's a wonderful opportunity

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for you to ask good questions, share a story with us,

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let us hold you accountable.

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There are like three people who owe us a dating update

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and I'm so excited to hear about them.

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And you guys, you learn from listening

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to other people's stories.

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Because sometimes like, I used to love that.

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Like when I used to go see a one-on-one therapist,

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you guys, I was really good at like,

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not, I don't wanna say you con the con artist,

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you know, like you can,

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you know what a therapist wants to hear.

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And if you're super smart, you know what to say, right?

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But in like a group session, like a 12-step meeting,

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you cannot con the con artists.

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And so people will call you on your stuff peer to peer

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and you also see your behavior in somebody else

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and you're like, oh, that's what that looks like?

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Oh my goodness.

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And so it kind of gives you a window.

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And so as you watch other people

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and hear other people's stories,

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you're gonna see yourself in that story,

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but you'll see it with fresh eyes.

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And that's why we all learn from one another.

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And there's no shame here.

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I loved it.

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Last week, people were very honest

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about the things that they're doing healthy

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and about some of the unhealthy choices.

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And we're not here to tell you, I told you so.

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We're not here to tell you, you guys are awful people.

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We're just here to say like, okay,

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well, how's that serving you?

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Let's learn from that.

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And how can we make better choices next time?

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You guys, I teach plenty of stuff to you.

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And then I can be just as guilty of getting off this call

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and going, having a three-hour Zoom date

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because he was yummy

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and the conversation was just going fabulous.

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Who wanted to follow my rule of only one hour?

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He's fabulous.

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So do not think that we got it all figured out.

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That's the beauty of this community.

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I also wanna say is if you are watching this in replay

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and you feel very disconnected from the community

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because you're in another country

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and there's no way you can be here at this hour,

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we wanna make sure you participate.

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So as you watch this replay and questions come up

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and you have your own ahas,

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we want you to create a post to put in the Facebook feed.

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And you're gonna say,

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hey, I just watched the replay that Jackie or Renee did.

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This was the theme that was discussed.

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Here are my questions or here are my ahas

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or here's my scenario.

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And the team, the coaches will respond to you.

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So don't let your distance and not being here live

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stop you from participating.

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So there is a way for you to participate.

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Okay, so just some homework assignments.

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Now, most of you also recognize me

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from the challenge group too.

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So I was one that helped let you in a little while ago.

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You all survived phase one, woo-hoo.

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And now you're dating

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and you're dating like rock stars or not.

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And it's all good.

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All right, some housekeeping items.

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We always try to tell you, don't rush the process.

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Y'all, I just started seminary, which is today,

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which is like the opposite of like what we're trying to do.

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I just got a reading assignment of like 175 pages

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by next week.

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I'm like, what happened to digesting it?

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And so take advantage of this system that says go slow.

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Like let the Lord unpack it.

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You're gonna, if you're a good reader

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and a good watcher of stuff,

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you're gonna bang through this stuff really fast.

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The hard part is sitting in the process,

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letting God speak to you.

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And I would definitely say if you're like me

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and you came into this program,

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you're like, I have been to everything.

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I have done 12-step, I've done Celebrate Recovery,

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I've done Freedom Training, I've been so-so'd,

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I've been to this place, I've been to that place.

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Y'all, that was me.

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I have been to everything and I have done everything.

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And so I know what it's like to kind of come into this

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going, I'm just gonna do what Jackie's gonna make me do

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for like the next six weeks so that I can get to community

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and I can start dating again and all the things.

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But I really want you to be open.

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Even when I re-watched the videos,

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now, years later, I still learn something every time.

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Jackie still learns stuff from her own teaching.

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Like, that's the beauty, right?

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Like, you guys pick up the Bible

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and all of a sudden a verse-

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looks different today than it did five years ago.

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That's the beauty of the gospel.

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And so that's the beauty of this content is that God is always speaking, always revealing.

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So if you don't give yourself the space for him to unfold that, you might find that you're,

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and I will say, we see this time and again.

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If you skip through this process or you kind of phone it in and you start dating and you're

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wondering why you're still attracting bozos.

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You wonder why you're still attracting the narcissist.

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You wonder why you still like, you know, well, it's cause you didn't change, like nothing

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changed.

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So of course you're going to get the same results.

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So do it at your own pace.

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And if you're like, but Renee, I'm actually the opposite.

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Like I'm on the 10 week plan.

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That's okay too.

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Like you, you do you boo.

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You go at the pace you need to go to, um, obviously I covered that.

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Distractions will happen.

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You guys, it is really easy whenever you're trying to be healthy, whether it's a diet,

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like, okay, you know, whenever you want to watch what you eat, everybody and their mother

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shows up with like a homemade pie, the brand new cake, a new recipe, new pasta dish.

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All of a sudden you've been invited to five dinners and it's all buffet, you know, all

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the things, or, you know, like you're finally ready to go to the gym and there's a snowstorm

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and you can't get to the gym.

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And so the same is true for heartwork.

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It's like the enemy's going to try to find ways to distract you.

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So just kind of like laugh in his face when it comes to you know that you're, you're just

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going to have it.

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And some of you are going to have waves of feeling lots of energy and excitement, and

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you're going to also have waves of feeling unexplained discouragement and sadness.

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Just know that that is part of the process.

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Bring it all to the Lord.

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Like trust that he's got you and you guys make sure you say it here.

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Find somebody in community, find safe places to talk about it because we all need to have

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our pity party day.

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Like, I don't know about you, but like, I'm normally like I'm working with a fitness and

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nutrition coach right now.

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And in 12 weeks she has never seen me complain, slip up, make a mistake.

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Well, I was just, I came back from the new year.

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I left home.

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I was back in Nashville.

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I was just not, I was just feeling like crap and you know, the scale wasn't my friend.

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I gave her like the biggest bitch fest in my weekly report.

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She'd never seen it before.

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She was like, oh my gosh, what happened to my perfect student?

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And but I just, and I just said, and even to sit in this thing, I said, do not give

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me tough love.

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I need to vent.

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I need to feel the feels.

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You know how Jack always says you can't heal the feels until you feel the feel.

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So I'm like, I need to feel my feels.

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And so she was like, oh my gosh, but she knows I don't do that very often.

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So I will say this.

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If you don't do that very often, if you don't have the pity party very often, we will let

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you have it.

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However, if we see you being negative week after week after week, we will call you on

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it and we may even impart a negativity fast on you.

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You may get a lovely message from me or somebody else that says, yeah, you're not allowed to

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comment for a couple of weeks because all you're doing is just writing negative stuff.

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So we are paying attention to it.

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So yes, are we all allowed to have a bad day?

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For sure.

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But if you are all, you remember, I think one of the Royal rules is to lift all boats.

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It's to lift all boats.

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So we're here to support each other.

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You asked, yeah, I did look at, I did ask, I said, don't give me tough love.

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I knew I, you guys, I knew I'm, I can handle tough love, but I knew I was not in the space

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that day to handle tough love.

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Like I would have quit.

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I'd been like, it wasn't worth it.

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So I think it's okay for you to say to your friends, you guys, and if you watch the boundaries,

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when you watch the boundary sessions, if it's the one that I really like, I give a cheat

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sheet of what to say to somebody.

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And it's like the thing to put up on the wall when you have a husband.

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And it basically, depending on how you start the sentence, it lets them know if they're

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supposed to just listen, support you or fix it.

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This way they know right in your opening sentence, what their job is to do.

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And so sometimes ladies, we just need to vent and it's okay.

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It's okay.

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So anyway, let's see.

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When your heart and head aren't feeling it, it says after going on a few dates and they

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like the guy, but he isn't into them or so sometimes, and this is going to happen.

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You're going to like a guy, but he's not into you, or you're not going to like a guy, but

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he's into you.

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This is going to happen.

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You're going to, if you try the online thing again, and I teach the online thing and I

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teach the boundaries class, because I feel so strongly about both of them.

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I actually, the irony is I felt so strongly again.

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online dating, that Jackie made me do online dating until I became a rock star at it, and

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then she made me teach on it.

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So there's the irony.

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So when you tell me that you hated online dating, get in line behind me.

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But I have found a way to master it.

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And here's what I, let me jump in and say this about online dating.

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You guys, the internet, like there was what we call the dot-bomb industry happened when

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the internet kind of came on the scene in the late 90s.

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People created companies on the web just to create a company on the web.

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They didn't have a good product.

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They didn't use the web as a tool.

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They just, they tried to make a web business.

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Do you know what I'm saying?

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It's like, and the only companies that survived were the companies that already had a solid

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company.

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The web was just a tool.

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And that's the thing with online dating.

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Go into it thinking, you know what, I am not going to meet my husband online, but oh

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my gosh, I'm going to have a wonderful time practicing how to date, practice how to do

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discovery dating, practice how to flirt, practice how to break up with somebody, practice how

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to date more than one guy at the same time.

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I'm going to use this opportunity to practice.

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I'm also going to be able to spot scammers and ding-dongs faster and faster and faster.

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So when I meet my guy at church or at the grocery store or at Bass Pro Shop or I don't

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care whatever, the cleaners of course are coming right now.

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So that's what I want you to think about it.

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Now, if you meet your spouse online, bonus, that's how you meet your spouse, but like

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don't freak out.

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You're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe they're making me go online.

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It's just a vehicle.

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I wasn't meeting enough single men in real life.

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So if I was going to meet that dating challenge, the only way I was going to meet it was by

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going online.

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So now it's like you guys can watch that video because honestly, like I look at it in the

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morning.

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I look at it at the end of the day.

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Do I still get scammers?

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Sure.

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And I can spot them now.

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Like sometimes if I'm really bored, I like to play a little, I'm like, hey, you seem

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awesome too.

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Let's do a video date.

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And you know, they, you know, and so like, here's the thing, you guys, you are God defended

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now.

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He is a jerk, inappropriate, a scammer.

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You have the tools to snuff him out faster.

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You're not going to give out your bank account.

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You're not going to say, I love you.

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You're not going to send pictures of yourself.

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Do you know what I'm saying?

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Like you guys are going to do it right.

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So who cares?

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Like, I don't know.

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I don't even notice anymore because I noticed the quality guys and yes, are there seasons

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when I'm online and it's like nothing.

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Sure.

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And I just go do other things.

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I go find other ways to meet people.

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I pick other things in my life to get excited about.

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I don't kind of get all upset about it.

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So just know that your heart and head aren't going to always line up.

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Just know that sometimes it's going to feel like feast or famine.

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Sometimes just like weight loss, right?

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Like sometimes when you're dieting, you hit a plateau and then they get what you, they

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call the gush.

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So like I just had a gush, you guys, I'm in a fat cut, a calorie cut phase, so I should

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be losing weight.

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And it was just like staying steady, staying steady.

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It was just pissing me off.

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It wasn't moving.

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Then all of a sudden in one day, I technically lost three pounds.

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Now, did I lose three pounds overnight?

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But it was like there was a pocket.

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There's like a whole science behind it.

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Like there's a pocket and finally the body realizes, okay, she's really not filling it

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with fat.

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So we get to release it.

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That's kind of how it is with dating.

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Like you're going to have seasons where it's not going to feel like you're seeing any fruit

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from it, but you have to trust that the fruit's being born and it's, it's that, you know,

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you will, you will bear fruit on it.

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Another topic came up is unresolved anger with men are starting to show up as you date.

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You know, guys, and that's really good because Jackie always says her in relationship healed

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in relationship.

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So we can only read so many self-help books, do so much journaling, do so much sozoing,

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do so much praying single.

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There's only so much healing we can do single.

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Some of our healing is going to happen dating, really dating in a serious relationship.

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So don't, don't get upset with yourself when you get triggered in those moments.

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Go, oh, here I am.

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Here's a new layer.

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Here's a new onion that I'm peeling of this.

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Where's this anger coming from?

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And usually if we feel like the anger or emotion we're feeling isn't matching the situation,

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it means it's always referring back to something else.

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And so the question that Jackie or Bethany will always say to you is when's the first

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time you felt that way?

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When was the first time you felt angry towards a man?

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When was the first time you felt disappointed?

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When was the first time you felt cast aside?

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Because usually if we're having a strong reaction, it's not.

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because of this person in front of us that we barely know,

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it's because it's reminding us

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to something really painful in the back.

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And so God's opening that moment up to give us a chance

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to go back and heal it back here.

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The other thing is activating the divine feminine.

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Now, how many of you have seen the divine feminine video?

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So raise your hand, your avatar hand if you've seen it.

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Okay, if you haven't seen it yet, you guys, the goldmine.

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And I love it because for women

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that are very demure, wallflower, you guys hide,

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you've been hiding behind your profile photos,

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it kind of teaches you how to come up out of your shell.

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Then for those of us that are kind of loud

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and proud and boss babes, it teaches us

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how can we still be strong, but in a feminine way?

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Because I don't know about you, but as the strong one,

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I kept hearing, you're too much, you're too much,

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you're intimidating.

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It just says, be strong differently.

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It's not, not be strong.

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It's just shine differently.

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And so that one was really, really helpful for me.

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And in fact, I wanna highlight three,

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there's seven characteristics that Jackie mentions

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and the teaching is great.

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Go back and watch if you haven't.

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But especially as you go through this dating season,

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there's three characteristic that make up

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the divine feminine and it's really the attributes

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of the Holy Spirit.

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I just saw this, I can't remember now.

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Now I'm taking so many classes.

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No, no, I was in the freedom prayer training.

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So, you know, a lot of the divine masculine

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will show up in God's characteristic, right?

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And when we look at Jesus, you know,

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sometimes we, Jesus kind of matches how our sibling is.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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God, sometimes we think of God in our image

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compared to our father.

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When we look at Jesus, he can almost be like the sibling.

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When we look at the Holy Spirit

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and we kind of look at the woman.

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So the woman really kind of has a lot

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of the Holy Spirit elements.

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And so one of them is wisdom and discernment.

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And so a lot of times we really need to trust our wisdom

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and discernment.

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If you are now coming in with a healed heart,

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that button inside of you that's like,

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that you know in your knower, you call it gut.

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Women tend to call it our sixth sense,

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our intuition and our gut.

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that is the Holy Spirit,

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that is the divine feminine working in us.

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So pay attention to that.

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If you're asking a lot of questions about a guy,

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you have a lot of concerns and it's coming

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from a healed heart, that is the Holy Spirit

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trying to help you.

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Now, if you don't have a healed heart,

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it's gonna more look like judgment, suspicion,

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picky and negative.

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okay, is this me being discerning

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or is this me being nitpicky or naggy or judgy Mcjudgy?

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And the more you press into the Holy Spirit

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and the more you press into God,

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he will reveal that to you.

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I can tell if I take some space

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to know when my discernment is creeping up

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and when my picky, negative, not healed heart is picking up.

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And you know how I know it's discernment from Holy Spirit?

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Because I can breathe and I feel peace.

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That's how you know, because actually the second attribute

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that I wanted to highlight tonight from the divine feminine

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is that we carry the role of the comforter,

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peace and shalom.

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So if we have shalom working for us

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and we have discernment working for us,

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we should know that we're God defended

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and we should be loving this dating season

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no matter what the turnout is

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because we have to trust that we have the peace of God in us

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and we have discernment to know when to move forward

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and when to move left and when to move right

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and when to back up all together.

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And then the last one, I wanna remind you guys of this.

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We also bring the attribute of fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun.

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If we are not fun, men won't pick us.

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It's interesting, I went to the guys page

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and it was like from a year ago

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and Jackie asked a bunch of men

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what did they notice most about women first?

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And I was on another Facebook page of Christian people.

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The same question was asked,

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men, what do you notice about women first?

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And I talked about this last week.

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They notice your smile and they notice your eyes.

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And so y'all like if you've got negative Nancy on your face,

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then they're going to recognize that,

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no dis on the Nancys in the room.

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Okay, so I really want you to lean into that this week.

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How can I pay attention to my discernment?

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How can I be more peaceful?

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And how can I be more fun?

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So I really want y'all to tap into that.

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And again, you only need to be afraid of online dating.

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I think if you give away too much information too soon,

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it's really that simple, you guys.

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You keep those text messages short and sweet.

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I don't mean literally pull out your resume.

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Someone's like, oh, you give out your resume?

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No, I'm just saying I call texting information,

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the information, I don't care

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if it falls onto the New York Times.

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I don't care if the guy at Walgreens knows it.

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It is information about me.

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I don't care if anybody knows.

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That is all you're supposed to share by text.

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Then you go to a video chat,

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and it is okay if you say, that's a great question,

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or you know what?

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I really don't wanna keep texting anymore.

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I would like to get to know you more.

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Those are questions I would ask by video only.

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And I'm just clear, video only.

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If they don't wanna do video, we're done.

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And so then I do the video,

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and I have a few shorter conversations

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where you get to ask fun, silly dating questions

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that are just like,

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now, what was your favorite subject in school?

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And if you, you know, like just fun,

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creative questions that you can ask just to keep it light.

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A lot of you guys get hung up with,

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he's also sharing too much information.

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You're gonna come across this.

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You're gonna either find a guy that shares

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too much information or not enough information at all.

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They are dating clunky.

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They don't know how to do it.

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That doesn't make them a bad guy.

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It just make either A, he's unhealed,

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or B, he doesn't know how to date.

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And so it is okay for you to say,

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that's a really great question,

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but you know what, I'm gonna,

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let's table that until we get to know each other better.

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Or I'm gonna, I wanna hold space for that later.

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This is, let's just continue to get to know each other.

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And that's really why you wanna push for that live date.

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You really wanna push for that live date.

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And ladies, there's some of you

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that are doing the long distance thing,

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and you're afraid to get to the live date.

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Please get to the live date.

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Please get to the live date.

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Please get to the live date.

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Because it is impossible to not start to overshare

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when all you're doing is video dating.

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Because you've got nothing else to do.

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You're not going to the movies.

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You're not going to play pool.

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You're not going ax throwing.

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You're not taking a hike.

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You literally are just staring at each other

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for most of the part.

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And so you are going to just start

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and actually sharing, sharing more information.

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And a digital connection

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doesn't always translate in real life.

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And you know, and it is okay to say,

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look, I'm not trying to marry you.

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I just wanna meet you in person.

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And you know what?

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We're gonna plan a fun date.

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And even if we decide we're not a match,

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we're gonna both agree that we're gonna have fun

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no matter what.

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And we're gonna take the pressure off of ourselves.

499
00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:34.720
Because actually I would argue

500
00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:36.720
if you're afraid to meet in person,

501
00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:39.080
the longer you wait to meet in person,

502
00:22:39.080 --> 00:22:42.640
the more pressure you're putting on that in-person date.

503
00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:44.560
You're making it very important.

504
00:22:44.560 --> 00:22:45.400
And all of a sudden,

505
00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.220
so I want you to have some freedom there.

506
00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:52.160
If you are like states away

507
00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:53.580
and someone's gonna have to get on a plane

508
00:22:53.580 --> 00:22:56.360
and money's an issue, have fun on dates.

509
00:22:56.360 --> 00:23:00.000
You can Google online Zoom games.

510
00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:01.640
I've played Yahtzee.

511
00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:03.040
I've played Uno.

512
00:23:03.040 --> 00:23:04.840
I've played Scattergories.

513
00:23:04.840 --> 00:23:06.600
You can go on a walk together.

514
00:23:06.600 --> 00:23:08.320
You can cook some food together.

515
00:23:08.320 --> 00:23:11.520
So if you are stuck doing a lot of video dates,

516
00:23:11.520 --> 00:23:13.100
make them activities.

517
00:23:13.100 --> 00:23:16.580
Try to be creative and fun.

518
00:23:16.580 --> 00:23:19.440
Okay, I'm gonna stop right there

519
00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:22.180
because we have some ladies from last week

520
00:23:22.180 --> 00:23:24.540
who need to give us some updates.

521
00:23:24.540 --> 00:23:26.100
And they're gonna be brave souls.

522
00:23:26.100 --> 00:23:29.540
And so they're gonna go in the hot seat first.

523
00:23:29.540 --> 00:23:31.940
And by the way, this is actually putting you in training

524
00:23:31.940 --> 00:23:34.100
because there's a monthly class

525
00:23:34.100 --> 00:23:36.460
that Jackie offers called Love Seat.

526
00:23:36.460 --> 00:23:37.780
She doesn't call it Hot Seat.

527
00:23:37.780 --> 00:23:39.860
She calls it the Love Seat.

528
00:23:39.860 --> 00:23:41.620
And so if you have a dating dilemma,

529
00:23:41.620 --> 00:23:43.420
you get in the Love Seat

530
00:23:43.420 --> 00:23:46.140
and she will give you feedback in front

531
00:23:46.140 --> 00:23:47.320
of a hundred other people.

532
00:23:47.320 --> 00:23:49.420
But it's great because we all learn something

533
00:23:49.420 --> 00:23:50.580
even if you're not the one.

534
00:23:50.580 --> 00:23:51.780
So this is just practice

535
00:23:51.780 --> 00:23:53.380
because there's only like, you know,

536
00:23:53.380 --> 00:23:55.780
there's less than a hundred people in the room right now.

537
00:23:55.780 --> 00:23:59.200
And so it's a much more calm way to do it.

538
00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:02.020
So Shannon has already agreed to go first

539
00:24:03.540 --> 00:24:06.460
because she, and so Shannon remind the group

540
00:24:06.460 --> 00:24:07.860
because there are some people here tonight

541
00:24:07.860 --> 00:24:08.960
that were not here last week.

542
00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:10.980
So in one minute or less,

543
00:24:10.980 --> 00:24:13.020
tell us the dating situation

544
00:24:13.780 --> 00:24:14.620
that you were in the middle of

545
00:24:14.620 --> 00:24:16.020
because I believe you had your first live date

546
00:24:16.020 --> 00:24:18.180
or a live date, yes?

547
00:24:18.180 --> 00:24:20.820
Yeah, so I had been talking to a guy

548
00:24:20.820 --> 00:24:23.860
that I met on Bumble for about three weeks.

549
00:24:24.980 --> 00:24:26.620
We live about three hours apart

550
00:24:28.140 --> 00:24:30.980
and we had been attempting to do a live date

551
00:24:30.980 --> 00:24:33.780
for the last two weeks,

552
00:24:33.780 --> 00:24:36.540
but every time we scheduled something, something happened.

553
00:24:36.540 --> 00:24:39.120
Like someone got sick or there was bad weather.

554
00:24:40.120 --> 00:24:45.120
And so we finally had our first live date on Saturday

555
00:24:45.120 --> 00:24:48.160
after like three weeks of talking on the phone.

556
00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:49.000
And the problem-

557
00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:50.760
So remind us Shannon, what was something I was,

558
00:24:50.760 --> 00:24:53.440
I can't even remember anymore because I'm old.

559
00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:54.280
So the problem-

560
00:24:54.280 --> 00:24:56.400
What was one thing I was a little concerned about?

561
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:57.680
You were concerned about how much

562
00:24:57.680 --> 00:24:59.440
we were talking on the phone.

563
00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:00.280
Oh yeah.

564
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:01.960
And for how long?

565
00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:02.800
Yeah.

566
00:25:02.800 --> 00:25:03.620
As we were talking on the phone,

567
00:25:03.620 --> 00:25:07.480
like four or five days a week for like a couple hours.

568
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:08.320
Okay.

569
00:25:08.320 --> 00:25:09.160
So you guys,

570
00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:12.080
if some of you haven't taken the dating 101 class

571
00:25:12.080 --> 00:25:13.540
that are online dating,

572
00:25:13.540 --> 00:25:16.740
we usually try to encourage to keep the dates

573
00:25:16.740 --> 00:25:19.780
at an hour on the phone or on video,

574
00:25:19.780 --> 00:25:22.860
because the longer you stay on the video phone,

575
00:25:22.860 --> 00:25:25.440
you start to get more and more intimate in conversation.

576
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:26.280
It's just natural.

577
00:25:26.280 --> 00:25:27.340
That's just where it goes.

578
00:25:27.340 --> 00:25:28.420
So keep going.

579
00:25:28.420 --> 00:25:29.260
Yeah.

580
00:25:29.260 --> 00:25:31.980
So we did do our in-person date on Saturday.

581
00:25:31.980 --> 00:25:33.380
Oh, well, also I'll tell you this.

582
00:25:33.380 --> 00:25:34.220
So I did,

583
00:25:34.220 --> 00:25:36.640
I did listen to you and Bethany's advice

584
00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:39.500
and we didn't talk on the phone at all on Wednesday.

585
00:25:39.500 --> 00:25:41.320
We just texted a little bit.

586
00:25:41.320 --> 00:25:43.740
We did talk on the phone on Thursday.

587
00:25:43.740 --> 00:25:46.100
We did not talk on the phone on Friday.

588
00:25:46.100 --> 00:25:48.540
And then we had the in-person date on Saturday.

589
00:25:48.540 --> 00:25:50.380
So I was trying to be very good.

590
00:25:50.380 --> 00:25:51.220
Awesome.

591
00:25:51.220 --> 00:25:52.040
How did it go?

592
00:25:52.980 --> 00:25:54.580
So it started out good.

593
00:25:56.080 --> 00:25:57.280
Did not end as...

594
00:25:58.280 --> 00:26:00.120
So one of the things that,

595
00:26:00.120 --> 00:26:02.840
I don't remember if it was you or if it was Bethany,

596
00:26:02.840 --> 00:26:05.040
the concern was boundaries.

597
00:26:05.040 --> 00:26:09.120
Like if the boundaries for talking on the phone so much

598
00:26:09.120 --> 00:26:11.160
possibly could mean maybe not being as good

599
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:12.920
at like physical boundaries.

600
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:13.760
Yeah.

601
00:26:13.760 --> 00:26:18.000
And so that was kind of already in my mind before the date,

602
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:19.240
but the date started out really well.

603
00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:21.560
We actually ended up instead of meeting halfway,

604
00:26:21.560 --> 00:26:23.440
we met in my hometown.

605
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:26.120
My hometown is only about 45 minutes from him.

606
00:26:26.120 --> 00:26:28.280
And it's a little over two hours for me,

607
00:26:28.280 --> 00:26:30.520
but my parents are there.

608
00:26:30.520 --> 00:26:33.800
My brother who carries a gun for his work is there.

609
00:26:33.800 --> 00:26:35.960
So it just made me feel better.

610
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:37.160
You had to drive farther.

611
00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:38.840
However, you were in a safer area.

612
00:26:38.840 --> 00:26:39.680
Yes.

613
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:41.720
I will accept that.

614
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:42.560
Yes.

615
00:26:42.560 --> 00:26:43.400
Yes.

616
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:46.760
So we, and we met up at a metro park,

617
00:26:46.760 --> 00:26:50.480
but it was not a like woody secluded metro park.

618
00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:52.080
It's on the river.

619
00:26:52.080 --> 00:26:54.560
And so it's very open and there's a playground

620
00:26:54.560 --> 00:26:56.200
and there's this big like sledding hill

621
00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:57.960
and it was packed full of people

622
00:26:57.960 --> 00:26:59.440
because it had snowed last week.

623
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:01.880
So it was very public.

624
00:27:03.080 --> 00:27:05.200
So anyway, so we went to the park

625
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:06.840
and everything was going really well.

626
00:27:06.840 --> 00:27:09.360
And it was just really comfortable and really natural.

627
00:27:09.360 --> 00:27:11.600
Just like when we talked on the phone

628
00:27:11.600 --> 00:27:13.920
and then we got cold.

629
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:16.680
And so we were leaving to go get coffee.

630
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:19.640
And then he opened the car door to let me in.

631
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.560
And then all of a sudden he turned around and kissed me.

632
00:27:22.560 --> 00:27:24.440
And I was not expecting it.

633
00:27:25.280 --> 00:27:26.400
So I was like, I was like, I froze.

634
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:27.240
I didn't know what to do.

635
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:28.080
He swooped in.

636
00:27:28.080 --> 00:27:28.920
Yes.

637
00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:29.760
He swooped in.

638
00:27:29.760 --> 00:27:31.440
And then he kissed me again.

639
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.120
So, and wanted to make out.

640
00:27:33.120 --> 00:27:35.880
And so like the whole physical boundaries thing

641
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:38.480
was definitely, yeah.

642
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.800
Because at this point, he's gotten to know you so well

643
00:27:41.800 --> 00:27:44.440
that in his brain, it's not a first date.

644
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:45.720
It's like.

645
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:47.920
And it didn't, and honestly it didn't feel like one.

646
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:49.640
That was the first thing I noticed.

647
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.120
Like the comfortability, it didn't,

648
00:27:52.120 --> 00:27:54.120
there wasn't like the usual first date

649
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:57.320
awkward feeling at all.

650
00:27:57.320 --> 00:27:59.920
And so absolutely, absolutely.

651
00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:02.680
Like the phone calls definitely set that up for sure.

652
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:03.880
Yeah.

653
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:08.040
So I, it was just, for me, it was like, okay.

654
00:28:08.040 --> 00:28:10.600
Like there were, it was definitely

655
00:28:10.600 --> 00:28:12.440
he did not have physical boundaries.

656
00:28:14.120 --> 00:28:16.240
So, you know, we ended the date

657
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:19.480
and he like indicated he wanted to go out again.

658
00:28:20.120 --> 00:28:23.080
But then like Sunday,

659
00:28:23.080 --> 00:28:25.080
I didn't talk to him on the phone Sunday,

660
00:28:26.040 --> 00:28:27.800
but I really was just like,

661
00:28:27.800 --> 00:28:29.760
just like kind of processing it and praying it.

662
00:28:29.760 --> 00:28:32.120
Cause it really left me uncomfortable.

663
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.040
And so the craziest thing happened.

664
00:28:37.040 --> 00:28:39.800
So I did prophesy your year two weeks ago

665
00:28:39.800 --> 00:28:41.520
and we were finishing it Sunday night.

666
00:28:41.520 --> 00:28:44.840
And I like, so I was pulling up my workbook that night

667
00:28:44.840 --> 00:28:47.480
and looking through the months we had already completed.

668
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.240
And it wasn't in January,

669
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:53.280
but in March something was written in there

670
00:28:53.280 --> 00:28:55.160
that freaked me out.

671
00:28:56.520 --> 00:28:58.680
Someone from one of the breakout rooms

672
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:00.520
actually said this to me, they said,

673
00:29:00.520 --> 00:29:05.240
lean into learning to be charming in March

674
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:09.520
or recognizing charm that is deceptive and manipulative.

675
00:29:09.520 --> 00:29:12.600
And the sign would be seeing a box of lucky charms.

676
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:16.320
So the reason that freaked me out is because,

677
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:21.480
so I'm a big Ohio state football fan.

678
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:22.720
He was a Michigan fan.

679
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:24.960
If you know, you know, you know.

680
00:29:25.800 --> 00:29:27.600
So, but it was, you know, it's fun.

681
00:29:27.600 --> 00:29:28.880
We'd razz each other about it.

682
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:30.720
So we were talking on the phone

683
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:32.400
while he was watching the Michigan game

684
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.200
when they won the national championship.

685
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.040
And so he started referring to me as his lucky charm.

686
00:29:38.760 --> 00:29:41.560
And then as a joke,

687
00:29:41.560 --> 00:29:43.400
because I thought it was funny.

688
00:29:44.120 --> 00:29:46.200
I bought a box of lucky charm cereal

689
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:47.880
and gave it to him on Saturday.

690
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:52.280
Totally forgot that this had happened the Sunday before

691
00:29:52.280 --> 00:29:55.320
that anyone had, totally didn't remember it.

692
00:29:55.320 --> 00:29:59.600
And so I'm reading this and I'm freaking out.

693
00:29:59.600 --> 00:30:00.440
Thank you.

694
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.000
Mandy, yes, go Bucs.

695
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.760
So I'm like, oh my God.

696
00:30:07.760 --> 00:30:10.360
So where have you decided to land with him?

697
00:30:10.360 --> 00:30:13.720
Well, so this is, it's gotten even more interesting.

698
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:15.640
Like, so I didn't talk to him Sunday.

699
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:18.360
We did text because he's a big Lions fan and the Lions had.

700
00:30:18.360 --> 00:30:19.480
OK, so let me ask you this.

701
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:21.360
Did you put a boundary up with the kissing?

702
00:30:21.360 --> 00:30:26.120
So for those who are new to phase two,

703
00:30:26.120 --> 00:30:28.640
this may sound super old fashioned.

704
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:30.440
This is just a guideline.

705
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:32.400
You guys are grown, stinking women.

706
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.320
You make your own choices.

707
00:30:34.320 --> 00:30:37.360
But we do not encourage making out

708
00:30:37.360 --> 00:30:40.320
until you know you want to be exclusive.

709
00:30:40.320 --> 00:30:43.640
Because at this point, if you're stating multiple people,

710
00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:46.160
we don't want you swapping spit with everybody.

711
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:49.560
A hug, a kiss on the cheek, we're fine with that.

712
00:30:49.560 --> 00:30:52.960
And for most of us, we have so many wounds.

713
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:57.840
And if he's a really hot kisser, we can't see any red flags.

714
00:30:57.840 --> 00:31:02.320
So we don't do that to like be the poo-poo police.

715
00:31:02.320 --> 00:31:04.400
We do that to protect you while you're trying

716
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:06.560
to get your dating game back on.

717
00:31:06.560 --> 00:31:10.200
We want to make sure you kind of put at bay the making out

718
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:14.080
till you've really made sure he's a guy that you want to date.

719
00:31:14.080 --> 00:31:15.400
So that's why.

720
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:17.960
So how did you handle the making out?

721
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:19.280
No, I just.

722
00:31:19.280 --> 00:31:20.920
Did you just push him to the side?

723
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:21.600
What did you have to do?

724
00:31:21.600 --> 00:31:22.920
Yes, like both.

725
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:23.440
OK.

726
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:24.520
Both.

727
00:31:24.520 --> 00:31:25.800
And how did you handle that?

728
00:31:28.840 --> 00:31:33.200
Definitely still tried to kind of push into that a little bit.

729
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:35.520
And that's why like Sunday, I was really like,

730
00:31:35.520 --> 00:31:38.640
hmm, this is a red flag to me.

731
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:40.040
So we didn't.

732
00:31:40.040 --> 00:31:42.400
And you guys, that's the important part.

733
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:46.960
If he's a gentleman, if he is the three M's, masculine,

734
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:51.440
marriage-minded, and mature, and then a godly guy,

735
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:54.800
he's going to do whatever you want to do to feel safe.

736
00:31:54.840 --> 00:31:58.160
Whether it's, I want a video date before I give you

737
00:31:58.160 --> 00:31:59.280
my cell phone number.

738
00:31:59.280 --> 00:32:01.160
I want to go out on a live date before I

739
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:04.560
let you become Facebook or Instagram friends with me.

740
00:32:04.560 --> 00:32:05.680
No matter what it is.

741
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:06.320
But here's the thing.

742
00:32:06.320 --> 00:32:07.680
As long as you say, look, I'm just

743
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:09.080
trying to watch my boundaries.

744
00:32:09.080 --> 00:32:09.920
I'm trying to be safe.

745
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:11.560
Or you know what?

746
00:32:11.560 --> 00:32:12.480
You're adorable.

747
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:14.200
I really want to make out with you, too.

748
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:15.360
But I'm really learning.

749
00:32:15.360 --> 00:32:17.320
I need to rein that in on the first date.

750
00:32:17.320 --> 00:32:19.920
So you let him down and let them know you're still

751
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.560
interested while you're setting up a boundary.

752
00:32:23.560 --> 00:32:26.480
And how well he responds to that boundary

753
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:29.880
says more to you than whether or not he kissed you or not.

754
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:31.240
Like him going in for the kiss.

755
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:32.640
A lot of guys, if they like you, they're

756
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:33.920
going to go in for the kiss.

757
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:36.960
So we don't fault the guy for going in for the kiss.

758
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.120
But we fault him if we declare a boundary,

759
00:32:40.120 --> 00:32:41.840
but let him know we're still interested

760
00:32:41.840 --> 00:32:44.680
and they don't appreciate the boundary.

761
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:48.600
So this is good learning for everybody.

762
00:32:48.600 --> 00:32:50.080
So we didn't talk on Sunday.

763
00:32:50.080 --> 00:32:51.880
Just texted a little.

764
00:32:51.880 --> 00:33:00.000
And then Monday, usually he'll send me a good morning text

765
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:00.640
or something.

766
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:01.920
And so he did that.

767
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:05.920
But then was kind of radio silent the rest of the day,

768
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:07.640
which is not normal.

769
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:11.360
And then I tried to call him last night

770
00:33:11.360 --> 00:33:14.400
and he didn't answer, which is also not normal.

771
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.160
And then today, nothing.

772
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:16.680
Cricket.

773
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:17.960
Dun, dun, dun.

774
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:20.120
And tried to call again and didn't.

775
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:23.160
Immediately went to voicemail.

776
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:27.160
So definitely has ghosted now.

777
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:31.760
And it's possible he has ghosted you because you

778
00:33:31.760 --> 00:33:34.840
wouldn't play on that date.

779
00:33:34.840 --> 00:33:35.600
Yeah.

780
00:33:35.600 --> 00:33:39.160
And so that makes you, and you guys, and here's the thing.

781
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.080
It's not that it's not good to connect with somebody

782
00:33:42.080 --> 00:33:43.160
right away.

783
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.200
And I know there's a lot of terms we use.

784
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:48.240
We say gaslighting, love bombing.

785
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:49.240
Here's the thing.

786
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.280
We're all capable of diving in too quickly.

787
00:33:52.280 --> 00:33:55.480
Whether someone is clinically love bombing you

788
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.760
or subconsciously love bombing you, we could be guilty of it.

789
00:33:59.760 --> 00:34:01.680
It's just really easy when you finally

790
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:04.480
meet somebody you connect with to just.

791
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.600
And the problem is, if you don't show restraint.

792
00:34:07.600 --> 00:34:11.719
And so one of the best things I heard a Christian counselor

793
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:12.840
say to me.

794
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:15.560
And I was like, I used to work at a pregnancy center

795
00:34:15.560 --> 00:34:17.320
and I used to teach abstinence.

796
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:23.719
And he said, same muscle that you practice abstinence single

797
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:27.920
is the same muscle for fidelity married.

798
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:29.280
It's the same muscle.

799
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:33.440
If you have a hard time being abstinent as a single person,

800
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:35.520
do not think that if you finally get married,

801
00:34:35.520 --> 00:34:37.920
you're going to nail down the fidelity thing.

802
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:39.239
It's the same muscle.

803
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:40.840
It's learning restraint.

804
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:43.000
It's not letting your body get ahead of you.

805
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.719
It's mind, spirit, soul, then body.

806
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:54.560
But in a way, though, Shannon, I'm kind of glad it happened.

807
00:34:54.560 --> 00:34:55.920
But the bummer is.

808
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:59.000
Well, it revealed true colors sooner.

809
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.000
I revealed it sooner, but here's the thing,

810
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:06.420
because you guys spent so many hours talking to each other,

811
00:35:06.420 --> 00:35:09.960
it's possible you could have revealed information

812
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:13.420
about yourself that you don't want a stranger to know.

813
00:35:13.420 --> 00:35:14.340
Do you know what I'm saying?

814
00:35:14.340 --> 00:35:17.680
And so, and that's what happens when we start to,

815
00:35:17.680 --> 00:35:21.820
you know, I call it the emotional or share hangover.

816
00:35:21.820 --> 00:35:23.020
You have a share hangover

817
00:35:23.020 --> 00:35:25.380
because you have this instant bonding connection

818
00:35:25.380 --> 00:35:28.640
and you vomit all this really intimate information

819
00:35:28.640 --> 00:35:30.700
about yourself, and now all of a sudden,

820
00:35:30.700 --> 00:35:32.460
this guy's out there in the world

821
00:35:32.460 --> 00:35:35.780
with that information that's sacred,

822
00:35:35.780 --> 00:35:37.700
and you've just given it away to somebody

823
00:35:37.700 --> 00:35:40.200
who hasn't earned the right to hear that information.

824
00:35:40.200 --> 00:35:42.180
So we wanna make sure that the men

825
00:35:42.180 --> 00:35:45.240
that we are giving our private information to

826
00:35:45.240 --> 00:35:48.300
earn the right to hear that and hold that information.

827
00:35:48.300 --> 00:35:51.580
We wanna hold our information and our story sacred.

828
00:35:51.580 --> 00:35:54.140
So I feel like this story gave you guys

829
00:35:54.140 --> 00:35:55.700
a lot of different nuggets.

830
00:35:55.720 --> 00:36:00.280
Before I'm gonna let the next person go, Amanda Adkins,

831
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.400
are you willing to show us your face?

832
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:07.400
Can you get off the thing and let me see you, girl?

833
00:36:08.160 --> 00:36:10.520
Because I wanna respond to what you had to say.

834
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:13.720
There you are.

835
00:36:13.720 --> 00:36:15.160
No, no, you're good.

836
00:36:15.160 --> 00:36:16.920
All right, I wanna see you.

837
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:18.280
I wanna take a good look at you.

838
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:19.640
Okay, you're beautiful.

839
00:36:19.640 --> 00:36:20.940
Here's what I wanted to say.

840
00:36:20.940 --> 00:36:23.220
You're beautiful and you have a great smile.

841
00:36:23.220 --> 00:36:26.960
So you just said, no, is it you that said it?

842
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:27.800
Where is it?

843
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:29.840
Oh, no, no, no.

844
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:32.440
I want you to listen to this

845
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:35.880
and you tell me if this would attract a guy,

846
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:37.760
because the way you wrote this,

847
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:43.320
that's the energy you're gonna bring to the room, okay?

848
00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:44.400
I have never dated.

849
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.360
No one has ever been interested in me.

850
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:48.660
I did some Facebook dating and tried to talk to people,

851
00:36:48.660 --> 00:36:50.000
but I have no game.

852
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.800
No one has ever responded past, hi, how are you?

853
00:36:53.340 --> 00:36:54.180
I have no idea.

854
00:36:55.300 --> 00:36:58.620
Do you hear like the negative energy that's in that?

855
00:36:58.620 --> 00:37:00.900
Now, there is truth.

856
00:37:00.900 --> 00:37:04.280
Remember how Jackie says there's truth and there's facts?

857
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:06.380
Those might be the facts of your past,

858
00:37:06.380 --> 00:37:08.580
but that is not the truth about who you are.

859
00:37:09.660 --> 00:37:12.320
So the truth about who you are

860
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:13.980
is that you're an incredible human being

861
00:37:13.980 --> 00:37:16.100
that God has designed and created.

862
00:37:16.100 --> 00:37:18.580
And so when you start to criticize you,

863
00:37:18.580 --> 00:37:21.020
you are criticizing the creator.

864
00:37:21.020 --> 00:37:22.720
And that's true for all of us.

865
00:37:23.500 --> 00:37:26.860
When I start to crap on myself and I don't like my height,

866
00:37:26.860 --> 00:37:29.940
the sound of my voice, all the things,

867
00:37:29.940 --> 00:37:32.680
like I don't like my nose, it's super Italian.

868
00:37:32.680 --> 00:37:34.900
It's like when I start to rag on myself,

869
00:37:34.900 --> 00:37:36.520
I insult the creator.

870
00:37:37.380 --> 00:37:40.940
And the creator designed me just the way he meant to.

871
00:37:40.940 --> 00:37:42.620
And the creator designed Amanda

872
00:37:42.620 --> 00:37:44.540
just the way that he meant to.

873
00:37:44.540 --> 00:37:49.240
And Amanda, I believe he has the counterpart just for you.

874
00:37:49.240 --> 00:37:51.040
Now, does that mean you're gonna snag,

875
00:37:51.040 --> 00:37:52.500
attract all the guys?

876
00:37:53.240 --> 00:37:54.680
No, I don't attract all the guys.

877
00:37:54.680 --> 00:37:57.760
Like you guys, I'm a short four foot 11 Italian girl

878
00:37:57.760 --> 00:37:59.820
with a soccer body, a gymnast body.

879
00:37:59.820 --> 00:38:01.280
That does not attract all the dudes.

880
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:02.120
It does not.

881
00:38:02.120 --> 00:38:04.740
If he wants a tall, thin girl, he's not picking me.

882
00:38:04.740 --> 00:38:06.080
And then no matter how nice and cute

883
00:38:06.080 --> 00:38:08.500
and sweet and bubbly I am, no matter.

884
00:38:08.500 --> 00:38:11.000
But I don't need all of the guys to pick me.

885
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:14.780
I just need one guy to pick me, just one.

886
00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:16.600
You guys, my cousin is gorgeous.

887
00:38:16.600 --> 00:38:18.640
She's like Jennifer Aniston gorgeous.

888
00:38:18.640 --> 00:38:21.440
Like literally men have fallen at her feet

889
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:22.480
since she was 14.

890
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:24.160
I'm not kidding.

891
00:38:24.160 --> 00:38:24.980
Like I'm not exaggerating.

892
00:38:24.980 --> 00:38:26.380
Fallen, she's in her fifties.

893
00:38:26.380 --> 00:38:28.380
I keep waiting for menopause age,

894
00:38:28.380 --> 00:38:29.980
something to catch up with her.

895
00:38:29.980 --> 00:38:31.660
And it just refuses to.

896
00:38:31.660 --> 00:38:34.140
And she still has men falling all over her.

897
00:38:34.140 --> 00:38:35.060
But you wanna know that?

898
00:38:35.060 --> 00:38:38.820
She was in two of the most abusive marriages ever.

899
00:38:38.820 --> 00:38:41.820
Treated like crap, cheated on.

900
00:38:41.820 --> 00:38:43.000
And so you know what?

901
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:44.460
We're both single at our age.

902
00:38:44.460 --> 00:38:46.980
And she's like, Renee, I fared no better.

903
00:38:46.980 --> 00:38:49.460
And so don't be looking at the pretty girls

904
00:38:49.460 --> 00:38:51.420
thinking she's gonna have it made in this.

905
00:38:51.420 --> 00:38:53.840
And so I want us to say yet.

906
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:56.440
That the phrase that Bethany always says is yet.

907
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:57.360
You know what?

908
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.700
I have not been noticed yet.

909
00:38:59.700 --> 00:39:03.040
I haven't gotten a date yet.

910
00:39:03.040 --> 00:39:05.600
So that's how you're gonna start phrasing stuff.

911
00:39:05.600 --> 00:39:08.300
So you could come on here and go, you know what?

912
00:39:08.300 --> 00:39:10.280
I have not dated yet.

913
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:12.440
I have not, in the past I've been online

914
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:16.560
and I have not yet figured out how to attract men yet.

915
00:39:16.560 --> 00:39:17.760
But I'm gonna keep doing this

916
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:18.880
and I'm gonna keep practicing

917
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:20.620
and I'm gonna put myself out there.

918
00:39:20.640 --> 00:39:22.880
You guys, Jackie's brought this story up

919
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:24.440
and she's long gone from the program.

920
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:26.340
One of the program I was in,

921
00:39:26.340 --> 00:39:28.480
I was with the group three years ago.

922
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.840
Literally the girl least likely.

923
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:36.280
She was the frumpiest girl, maybe the most overweight.

924
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:39.160
Then on looks, very sweet personality.

925
00:39:39.160 --> 00:39:42.520
She was like, this is never going to happen for me.

926
00:39:42.520 --> 00:39:44.560
Y'all, she was the first one to get married.

927
00:39:44.560 --> 00:39:46.600
The first one in our group to get married.

928
00:39:46.600 --> 00:39:49.640
And she's like happier than a pig in poo.

929
00:39:49.660 --> 00:39:54.060
So whatever you think is the thing that's holding you back

930
00:39:54.060 --> 00:39:56.900
is the thing that's gonna draw your guy in.

931
00:39:56.900 --> 00:40:00.180
And so I'm just gonna encourage you.

932
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.000
to take those negative things and spin them around.

933
00:40:05.020 --> 00:40:08.560
But you guys, men can sniff out desperation.

934
00:40:08.560 --> 00:40:10.880
Like men can sniff out negative attitude.

935
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.200
I don't know about you, but how many of us,

936
00:40:13.200 --> 00:40:16.040
raise your avatar hand if you read a guy's profile

937
00:40:16.040 --> 00:40:18.120
and he's just pissed and negative.

938
00:40:18.120 --> 00:40:19.960
Cause he's like, I don't want any drama.

939
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:21.440
I'm not giving you my money.

940
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:22.400
I'm not doing this.

941
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:23.840
We've all seen that, okay?

942
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:25.260
We've all seen that profile.

943
00:40:25.260 --> 00:40:27.240
How many of you like that profile?

944
00:40:27.240 --> 00:40:29.560
Nobody likes that profile.

945
00:40:29.560 --> 00:40:33.120
I will never pick a guy that says, I'm easy.

946
00:40:33.120 --> 00:40:35.200
I'm this, I don't want any drama.

947
00:40:35.200 --> 00:40:36.040
Cause you know what?

948
00:40:36.040 --> 00:40:38.080
Usually the people who say, I don't want drama,

949
00:40:38.080 --> 00:40:39.840
they're the ones causing the dang drama.

950
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:41.280
Women don't like drama either.

951
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:42.320
Like we don't.

952
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.120
So like, I'm so tired of men saying, I don't want drama.

953
00:40:45.120 --> 00:40:46.680
Really? I don't either.

954
00:40:46.680 --> 00:40:48.880
Like, so maybe it's your fault that it's happening.

955
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.000
You're the common denominator to drama.

956
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:52.240
I don't know.

957
00:40:52.240 --> 00:40:54.840
So we have to like, you know,

958
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.900
and sometimes you have to act it until it's true.

959
00:40:59.600 --> 00:41:00.440
You just do.

960
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.640
Sometimes you just have to fake it till you make it

961
00:41:02.640 --> 00:41:06.480
because it's like, it really does work y'all

962
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:08.320
and find your best outfit.

963
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:11.120
Like you guys, I got this shirt in Italy

964
00:41:11.120 --> 00:41:14.080
and I was wearing my pajamas like 20 minutes

965
00:41:14.080 --> 00:41:16.120
before we all got on the call.

966
00:41:16.120 --> 00:41:17.160
I was tired.

967
00:41:17.160 --> 00:41:18.540
I was not feeling good.

968
00:41:18.540 --> 00:41:19.640
I'd been up all day.

969
00:41:19.640 --> 00:41:23.160
I had class today and I was going to bring that energy

970
00:41:23.160 --> 00:41:24.000
to this session.

971
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.000
So I'm like, all right, girls gotta, you know,

972
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:27.740
Renee, you got to put some mascara on,

973
00:41:27.740 --> 00:41:31.060
put a little lip gloss on and go get a cute shirt on

974
00:41:31.060 --> 00:41:33.100
because you need to show up with your best self

975
00:41:33.100 --> 00:41:35.220
to go inspire these women.

976
00:41:35.220 --> 00:41:36.940
And so that's what you have to do.

977
00:41:36.940 --> 00:41:39.260
Sometimes you have to put your best outfit on,

978
00:41:39.260 --> 00:41:40.940
go get your hair done,

979
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:44.900
find your friends to tell you all of the cool things

980
00:41:44.900 --> 00:41:45.740
about you.

981
00:41:45.740 --> 00:41:47.860
Come to prayer, come to prayer, come to prayer,

982
00:41:47.860 --> 00:41:48.700
come to prayer.

983
00:41:49.700 --> 00:41:51.760
So Amanda, I did not mean to pick on you

984
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.700
because you are not alone,

985
00:41:53.700 --> 00:41:55.020
but look at your beautiful smile.

986
00:41:55.020 --> 00:41:56.140
Why would you hide behind?

987
00:41:56.940 --> 00:42:01.180
So I just wanted to let you know that you are not alone,

988
00:42:01.180 --> 00:42:03.220
that you are one of a hundred people

989
00:42:03.220 --> 00:42:04.860
that could have written that post.

990
00:42:04.860 --> 00:42:06.420
And you're just going to say yet,

991
00:42:06.420 --> 00:42:07.900
because it's still yet for me.

992
00:42:07.900 --> 00:42:11.580
If it's yet for me, it's yet for you and it is okay.

993
00:42:11.580 --> 00:42:15.020
And if you don't have enough hope, you guys borrow mine,

994
00:42:15.020 --> 00:42:17.460
borrow Bethany's, borrow Jackie's,

995
00:42:18.460 --> 00:42:23.400
because we're going to have enough hope for all of you.

996
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:25.820
All right, how about that?

997
00:42:26.500 --> 00:42:27.560
Laura, are you ready to ask a question

998
00:42:27.560 --> 00:42:30.220
or bring up a story that you want us to help with you?

999
00:42:31.380 --> 00:42:35.200
I have kind of a story and a question.

1000
00:42:36.720 --> 00:42:41.720
So there's a guy that I go to church, that goes to my church

1001
00:42:42.180 --> 00:42:45.540
and he's in my life group

1002
00:42:45.540 --> 00:42:48.600
and I never see him with anyone.

1003
00:42:48.600 --> 00:42:51.240
I never see him bring anyone.

1004
00:42:51.240 --> 00:42:54.720
I've just, I asked my life group leader,

1005
00:42:54.720 --> 00:42:55.780
is he single?

1006
00:42:55.780 --> 00:43:00.780
Like before I started the heart work stuff,

1007
00:43:03.060 --> 00:43:04.140
I asked her this.

1008
00:43:05.180 --> 00:43:10.060
And so last week we had,

1009
00:43:10.060 --> 00:43:12.180
or this past Sunday we had life group

1010
00:43:12.180 --> 00:43:15.240
and I was really close.

1011
00:43:15.240 --> 00:43:18.620
I was like, I'm going to ask him

1012
00:43:18.620 --> 00:43:20.860
if he wants to go out for coffee or something,

1013
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:25.640
and I didn't do it, I chickened out.

1014
00:43:25.640 --> 00:43:30.640
Well, I asked for his number and I asked her,

1015
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:32.760
I said, is this his number?

1016
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:34.360
And she said, yes.

1017
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:35.920
And so I texted him

1018
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.620
and I didn't know what kind of answer I would get.

1019
00:43:41.560 --> 00:43:43.960
And so I said, you know, I said,

1020
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:48.160
hey, I'm kind of stepping out of my comfort zone a little

1021
00:43:48.740 --> 00:43:51.940
and I'm wanting to get to know people in the group.

1022
00:43:51.940 --> 00:43:54.860
And he said, and I said, would you like to, you know,

1023
00:43:54.860 --> 00:43:56.700
get together for a coffee or something?

1024
00:43:56.700 --> 00:44:00.020
I don't know, coffee something sometime, you know,

1025
00:44:00.020 --> 00:44:02.520
I didn't say as a date or anything,

1026
00:44:02.520 --> 00:44:05.520
I just wanted to get together as friends.

1027
00:44:06.520 --> 00:44:10.200
And he finally answered me back and he said,

1028
00:44:10.200 --> 00:44:13.540
that's good that you're stepping out of your comfort zone,

1029
00:44:13.540 --> 00:44:15.420
I need to do that too.

1030
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:18.740
I appreciate your invitation,

1031
00:44:18.740 --> 00:44:21.200
but I wanna get to know the church,

1032
00:44:21.200 --> 00:44:24.640
get better acquainted with the church itself.

1033
00:44:24.640 --> 00:44:28.160
So I was kind of like, okay.

1034
00:44:28.160 --> 00:44:30.720
I wasn't like this, I was a little discouraged,

1035
00:44:30.720 --> 00:44:33.200
but at the same time, I wasn't like,

1036
00:44:33.200 --> 00:44:35.300
my reaction was better than.

1037
00:44:36.520 --> 00:44:38.960
I'm so, first, I'm so proud of you, Laura.

1038
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:41.360
And you know what, you're not asking somebody out for a date.

1039
00:44:41.380 --> 00:44:45.540
I also wouldn't say the phrase, let's go out as friends.

1040
00:44:45.540 --> 00:44:48.540
Don't say that, just say, hey, you know what?

1041
00:44:48.540 --> 00:44:50.060
I just feel like I wanted to get,

1042
00:44:50.060 --> 00:44:51.580
I wanted to ask you out for coffee,

1043
00:44:51.580 --> 00:44:53.580
just a chance to get to know you better.

1044
00:44:53.580 --> 00:44:55.280
Get to know you better.

1045
00:44:57.140 --> 00:44:59.100
Just thought I would like to get to know you better.

1046
00:44:59.100 --> 00:45:00.300
So I'm just, that's my.

1047
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.960
to all of you, because sometimes we either say,

1048
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:05.200
I'd like to ask God on a date, that might be too much.

1049
00:45:05.200 --> 00:45:08.000
Or, hey, let's just go out for coffee just as friends.

1050
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:09.640
And then that might give the guy the impression

1051
00:45:09.640 --> 00:45:10.640
it's just as friends.

1052
00:45:10.640 --> 00:45:13.920
But I feel like he basically was as polite as he could,

1053
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:15.760
and he said no.

1054
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:16.760
Right.

1055
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:19.480
Here's the good news, Laura, he don't know you.

1056
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:23.320
So his initial decision was, and here,

1057
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:25.440
I'm not surprised, because sometimes when guys

1058
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:27.440
are stepping into a new church,

1059
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:29.720
they wanna get the lay of the land

1060
00:45:29.720 --> 00:45:32.480
before they couple up with a girl.

1061
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:34.360
So that might be his true answer.

1062
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:36.760
Like, it might have nothing to do with you.

1063
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:41.000
Like, sometimes the no has nothing to do with us.

1064
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:42.080
And it's just timing.

1065
00:45:42.080 --> 00:45:43.400
So is there a question, though?

1066
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:44.400
What was your question?

1067
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:45.720
I'm really proud of you.

1068
00:45:45.720 --> 00:45:47.120
Great job.

1069
00:45:47.120 --> 00:45:48.720
And you didn't take it too personal.

1070
00:45:48.720 --> 00:45:50.920
So also, great job.

1071
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:55.920
Well, my question was, I asked it on the group page.

1072
00:45:57.560 --> 00:46:02.560
But, like, I just started the Facebook dating thing.

1073
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:06.240
And I'm like, it's kind of overwhelming.

1074
00:46:06.240 --> 00:46:09.640
And, you know, I've already had guys like me,

1075
00:46:09.640 --> 00:46:12.160
and I'm like, I don't know, you know,

1076
00:46:12.160 --> 00:46:14.680
I don't wanna pass up every guy,

1077
00:46:14.680 --> 00:46:17.360
but most of the guys that have liked me

1078
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:21.000
are guys I would, I'm not too sure about.

1079
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:25.200
And of course, there's not a maybe on that.

1080
00:46:25.200 --> 00:46:28.080
And I know, I can't remember if you said

1081
00:46:28.080 --> 00:46:33.080
that you need to wait for them to talk to you.

1082
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:34.640
No, you don't need to do anything.

1083
00:46:34.640 --> 00:46:35.560
You do what you need to do.

1084
00:46:35.560 --> 00:46:38.760
All right, so on Facebook dating, you guys,

1085
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:40.080
there's the liked you.

1086
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:43.080
So here's how I treat the liked me,

1087
00:46:43.080 --> 00:46:44.800
the same way guys treat it.

1088
00:46:46.200 --> 00:46:48.400
If it's a maybe, it's a yes, right?

1089
00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:49.240
It's a maybe.

1090
00:46:49.240 --> 00:46:50.920
Now, usually when a guy, for me,

1091
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:54.800
starts out with this picture of the fish, that's a no.

1092
00:46:56.200 --> 00:46:57.800
And he didn't say anything else.

1093
00:46:57.800 --> 00:46:59.120
He's not gonna write a profile.

1094
00:46:59.120 --> 00:47:00.000
He ain't my guy.

1095
00:47:01.160 --> 00:47:02.960
So I start, yes, no.

1096
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:05.000
Then you go to the matches.

1097
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:09.400
Look, you guys, here's all the guys that, shoot.

1098
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:13.760
There's like 30 guys that have liked me, and I liked back.

1099
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:18.200
Now, if I wanted to, I could send that first message.

1100
00:47:18.200 --> 00:47:21.560
And I could, like, hey, I noticed we both liked each other.

1101
00:47:21.560 --> 00:47:23.020
Read my profile.

1102
00:47:23.020 --> 00:47:25.820
If you wanna chat still, I'm here.

1103
00:47:25.820 --> 00:47:28.660
That's a great way to open the conversation.

1104
00:47:28.660 --> 00:47:31.220
That Bumble kind of would force you to do that too, right?

1105
00:47:31.220 --> 00:47:34.580
Because Bumble makes you be the first person.

1106
00:47:34.580 --> 00:47:36.380
So a lot of times with Bumble, I would say,

1107
00:47:36.380 --> 00:47:39.620
hey, looks like we both matched each other.

1108
00:47:39.620 --> 00:47:41.300
Go ahead and read my profile.

1109
00:47:41.300 --> 00:47:43.660
If you're still interested in getting to know me,

1110
00:47:43.660 --> 00:47:46.700
message me, otherwise have a great day, boom.

1111
00:47:46.700 --> 00:47:49.980
So that's how I don't get overwhelmed on Facebook.

1112
00:47:49.980 --> 00:47:52.740
So when you like them and they like you back,

1113
00:47:53.460 --> 00:47:55.700
you've not decided anything, you've not.

1114
00:47:55.700 --> 00:47:57.740
Now, if you really like them,

1115
00:47:57.740 --> 00:48:00.140
you can be the first one to start the message.

1116
00:48:00.140 --> 00:48:03.300
I tend to not, because again,

1117
00:48:03.300 --> 00:48:05.660
I wanna know that a guy's kind of pursuing me.

1118
00:48:05.660 --> 00:48:08.440
But if I see a really, like, good, good match,

1119
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:10.660
I might go first.

1120
00:48:10.660 --> 00:48:12.420
But usually I wait for them,

1121
00:48:12.420 --> 00:48:14.260
and then they start the conversation.

1122
00:48:14.260 --> 00:48:16.380
Depending on how they start the conversation,

1123
00:48:16.380 --> 00:48:18.940
what they have to say, I give everybody,

1124
00:48:18.940 --> 00:48:20.460
if I've kind of liked them,

1125
00:48:20.460 --> 00:48:22.940
I give everybody a couple sentences.

1126
00:48:22.940 --> 00:48:25.220
But if I was, meh, about him,

1127
00:48:25.220 --> 00:48:28.100
and he doesn't win me over in the texting,

1128
00:48:28.100 --> 00:48:30.020
I don't even push for the video date.

1129
00:48:30.020 --> 00:48:32.860
I just go, and I used to like end it,

1130
00:48:32.860 --> 00:48:35.980
but you guys, I've even gotten like this one guy.

1131
00:48:35.980 --> 00:48:37.620
It's like, he just stopped talking.

1132
00:48:37.620 --> 00:48:39.420
Delete, like, look it, right now,

1133
00:48:39.420 --> 00:48:41.380
delete this conversation, boof.

1134
00:48:41.380 --> 00:48:42.820
I don't know, I'm an explanation.

1135
00:48:42.820 --> 00:48:44.620
We've not really talked much, boom.

1136
00:48:44.620 --> 00:48:46.140
So that's how you not make,

1137
00:48:46.140 --> 00:48:48.340
Shannon's laughing at me.

1138
00:48:48.340 --> 00:48:50.440
That's how you not make a big deal out of it.

1139
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:54.020
It's just like, you're not gonna miss your guy.

1140
00:48:54.020 --> 00:48:55.020
You're not gonna miss your guy.

1141
00:48:55.020 --> 00:48:57.660
So I tend to now have given more people chances.

1142
00:48:57.660 --> 00:48:59.220
Again, I've been on this longer, you guys,

1143
00:48:59.220 --> 00:49:02.220
so I've earned the right to skip past the fishmen.

1144
00:49:02.220 --> 00:49:04.620
Like, I already know where this is gonna go

1145
00:49:04.620 --> 00:49:05.620
with the fishermen.

1146
00:49:07.580 --> 00:49:09.020
And so, like, I can do that.

1147
00:49:09.020 --> 00:49:11.860
But if y'all just starting, you go talk to the fishermen.

1148
00:49:11.860 --> 00:49:13.260
You gotta give him a chance.

1149
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:16.140
So that's my guidance to you.

1150
00:49:16.140 --> 00:49:19.140
Carolyn, I'm very excited for you to go.

1151
00:49:20.420 --> 00:49:24.140
And Carolyn, you have to give everybody

1152
00:49:24.140 --> 00:49:27.180
like a one minute update of your situation.

1153
00:49:27.180 --> 00:49:30.380
Cause you were part of the homework from last week, right?

1154
00:49:30.380 --> 00:49:32.220
That's why I raised my hand, Renee.

1155
00:49:32.220 --> 00:49:33.060
I'm so proud of you.

1156
00:49:33.060 --> 00:49:34.820
I was afraid you weren't gonna show up.

1157
00:49:34.820 --> 00:49:36.820
All right, give everybody one minute summary

1158
00:49:36.820 --> 00:49:40.340
of your situation and we're gonna see how you're doing.

1159
00:49:40.340 --> 00:49:41.580
Can I just razz you though?

1160
00:49:41.580 --> 00:49:45.020
Because you asked, you know, for like, not tough love

1161
00:49:45.020 --> 00:49:47.100
and, you know, Jackie was so nice

1162
00:49:47.100 --> 00:49:48.380
and I asked for not tough love

1163
00:49:48.380 --> 00:49:50.220
and then you gave me tough love last week.

1164
00:49:50.220 --> 00:49:52.060
Can I just say, I'm a brave woman

1165
00:49:52.060 --> 00:49:53.980
to come back here right now.

1166
00:49:53.980 --> 00:49:56.660
Can I just call you out, Renee?

1167
00:49:56.660 --> 00:49:57.500
I love you.

1168
00:49:58.900 --> 00:49:59.740
Fair enough.

1169
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:01.920
Oh, fair enough.

1170
00:50:02.160 --> 00:50:08.680
In my defense, in my defense, I had 11 weeks in a row of tough love with my

1171
00:50:08.680 --> 00:50:14.120
coach, I wanted one week of a pity party, but I feel you and I apologize.

1172
00:50:14.160 --> 00:50:17.600
And I'm actually really proud that both you and Shannon showed up today.

1173
00:50:19.040 --> 00:50:21.080
Cause y'all need to be in the hot seat.

1174
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:23.080
There's a third person.

1175
00:50:23.080 --> 00:50:25.800
I can't remember who it is, but there is a third person.

1176
00:50:26.680 --> 00:50:27.560
No, it was the girl.

1177
00:50:27.600 --> 00:50:28.400
It was the, um,

1178
00:50:29.240 --> 00:50:31.600
I don't want to say Hannah.

1179
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:35.640
Anyway, your story, it's your turn.

1180
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:36.640
I don't know.

1181
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:37.200
I don't know.

1182
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:37.520
Okay.

1183
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:38.200
Sorry.

1184
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:43.560
Um, yeah, so really quick, basically dated somebody in September that really

1185
00:50:43.560 --> 00:50:49.080
turned my head because there were like all these things that lined up like boom,

1186
00:50:49.080 --> 00:50:49.800
boom, boom, boom.

1187
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:53.560
There's one thing that God's like, if that doesn't change, it won't work.

1188
00:50:53.560 --> 00:50:59.600
But like mission minded, like all these things, like wealthy, which is nice.

1189
00:50:59.600 --> 00:51:03.440
Like, anyway, adopted kids from Ethiopia, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1190
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:05.320
Like all this really amazing stuff.

1191
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:08.280
And then took a couple of times and then we started to really like

1192
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:11.120
each other and, uh, really fun.

1193
00:51:11.120 --> 00:51:14.400
It was like, it seemed like I was really gonna take off.

1194
00:51:14.680 --> 00:51:16.280
And then I did something I've never done before.

1195
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:19.400
And I kissed him, like got all up in there.

1196
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:20.960
Like, well, what the heck?

1197
00:51:21.200 --> 00:51:24.760
Like, I'm going to have kids people, but like not so soon when I don't

1198
00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:29.320
really know them yet, like what in the heavens, man, just saying.

1199
00:51:29.560 --> 00:51:31.200
Carolyn is thirsty right now.

1200
00:51:31.200 --> 00:51:31.680
Lord help.

1201
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:36.760
So anyway, 42 plastic about it.

1202
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:38.880
So we're not going to read it again.

1203
00:51:39.080 --> 00:51:40.320
Hey, I already know.

1204
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:41.920
But anyway, so.

1205
00:51:42.520 --> 00:51:46.440
So yeah, long story short, Scott wanted to be friends and I was like,

1206
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:48.080
I can't be friends owner.

1207
00:51:48.080 --> 00:51:50.680
You guys, he went all time heavy.

1208
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:55.000
Then he went on some other woman, his ex-girlfriend came back and he's all

1209
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:57.360
like, you know, not just kissing her.

1210
00:51:57.400 --> 00:51:57.880
Right.

1211
00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:58.440
Yeah.

1212
00:51:58.600 --> 00:51:59.680
So yuck.

1213
00:51:59.960 --> 00:52:02.040
So what the heck anyway?

1214
00:52:02.040 --> 00:52:03.840
And so I was like, no, no, I can't really be friends.

1215
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:05.440
And then it went, so I've tried to block him.

1216
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.040
Then I unblocked him.

1217
00:52:07.720 --> 00:52:09.520
And then like, but we haven't.

1218
00:52:09.560 --> 00:52:14.560
And then, and then at some point he did boomerang back in November.

1219
00:52:14.560 --> 00:52:16.080
He did whiplash me again.

1220
00:52:16.080 --> 00:52:17.760
He came back with, okay.

1221
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:22.960
In two weeks, you want to like, try again and totally like, and then the next day

1222
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:24.040
goes, nevermind.

1223
00:52:24.560 --> 00:52:25.360
And so I was like,

1224
00:52:26.640 --> 00:52:32.120
and this guy has gone hot and heavy friend zoned back to the old girlfriend,

1225
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:33.920
hot and heavy friend zone.

1226
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:39.160
And he's played this game with her a few times, but, but basically he like popped

1227
00:52:39.160 --> 00:52:43.640
up again last week or the week before just saying, I really can, are you ready

1228
00:52:43.640 --> 00:52:45.040
just to be friends and talk?

1229
00:52:45.120 --> 00:52:48.520
And I'm like, we don't really have a friend base.

1230
00:52:48.560 --> 00:52:51.880
You know, I have guy friends where we thought about it and now we're like in the

1231
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:52.600
friend zone again.

1232
00:52:52.600 --> 00:52:56.400
And now he wants to be just friends with her.

1233
00:52:56.920 --> 00:52:57.160
Yeah.

1234
00:52:57.160 --> 00:52:59.760
So, so he still has attraction to him.

1235
00:53:00.240 --> 00:53:02.320
Well, yeah, I want to make out with him.

1236
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:02.880
Are you kidding?

1237
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:03.240
Right.

1238
00:53:03.640 --> 00:53:08.800
And we basically, my advice to her last, so my tough love last week was I was

1239
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:13.640
worried that if she continued to be friends with the guy and my mind you, they didn't

1240
00:53:13.640 --> 00:53:14.880
start out as friends.

1241
00:53:15.560 --> 00:53:18.240
And so they kind of started out with potentially dating.

1242
00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:19.880
There was some chemistry.

1243
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:21.400
There was a little making out.

1244
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:22.640
He left and came back.

1245
00:53:22.640 --> 00:53:25.560
So he's like, man, can we just be friends?

1246
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:27.360
But she doesn't want to just be friends.

1247
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:33.440
And we talked about my worry that this is going to stunt her from finding a healthy

1248
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:35.440
guy who's all in.

1249
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:38.360
It's one thing when you both have zero attraction.

1250
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:38.680
I don't know.

1251
00:53:38.680 --> 00:53:40.760
I grew up in the era of when Harry met Sally.

1252
00:53:41.040 --> 00:53:44.320
So I think it's very hard for people of the opposite sex.

1253
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:46.760
I am of that camp to be best friends.

1254
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:47.640
I know it happens.

1255
00:53:47.640 --> 00:53:51.120
And there's some random, there's rare moments when you have that brother sister

1256
00:53:51.120 --> 00:53:56.080
relationship, but if you've already proven that their chemistry is there and one of

1257
00:53:56.080 --> 00:53:58.120
you feels the chemistry at least.

1258
00:53:58.600 --> 00:54:02.560
Um, and the thing is he knows you feel the chemistry and so, and he's not doing.

1259
00:54:02.600 --> 00:54:02.800
Yeah.

1260
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:03.240
Anyway.

1261
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:06.080
So what have you decided to do with him in the last week?

1262
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:09.400
Have you decided to keep talking to him, not keep talking to them?

1263
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.200
Uh, well, um.

1264
00:54:14.520 --> 00:54:16.280
He messaged me last Monday.

1265
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:18.960
So that was before our thing Tuesday.

1266
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:20.960
And I didn't hear from him.

1267
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.160
I had sent back a message saying, how can I pray for you?

1268
00:54:23.160 --> 00:54:24.480
And then he didn't send anything.

1269
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.160
And then Friday I was at a worship night.

1270
00:54:26.160 --> 00:54:29.360
I honestly, I know you're going to think I'm crazy, but I really felt like I was

1271
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:30.080
supposed to call him.

1272
00:54:30.080 --> 00:54:32.080
So I called him to see what's going on.

1273
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:39.440
So he was actually had a really hard week and needed some prayer and I didn't pray

1274
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:40.720
for him on the phone or anything.

1275
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:44.600
Um, and he doesn't, he doesn't talk long on the phone.

1276
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:46.360
Like he's cuts it short.

1277
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:52.200
So, uh, but yeah, it was just really short catch up, but then I think, yeah, he

1278
00:54:52.200 --> 00:54:57.280
messaged me yesterday saying, oh, you came to my mind and I was praying for you.

1279
00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:59.440
And I felt like God said all this and I'm just like, ah.

1280
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.680
I don't want to hear from her.

1281
00:55:02.680 --> 00:55:08.040
So I think I haven't been able to make a strong decision because I know part of my heart is

1282
00:55:08.040 --> 00:55:11.960
just like, I want this to be a different story than it is.

1283
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:13.800
And it's not the story I want.

1284
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:15.800
And I'm so tired of this story.

1285
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:18.040
And it's like the story.

1286
00:55:18.040 --> 00:55:19.040
Yeah.

1287
00:55:19.040 --> 00:55:22.480
I mean, and here's the thing, you guys, we've all, we shall call him, his name's really

1288
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:24.320
Scott or did you just call him Scott?

1289
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:25.320
We've all had a Scott.

1290
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:26.320
Okay.

1291
00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:27.320
We all have this.

1292
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:28.760
We've all had a Scott in our life.

1293
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:32.560
And you guys, in fact, my Scott just found me on Facebook.

1294
00:55:32.560 --> 00:55:37.400
It's been 35 years.

1295
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:39.960
He owned a house on the lake.

1296
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:44.240
I kept trying to break up with him, but it was really hard because he owned a house on

1297
00:55:44.240 --> 00:55:46.640
the lake and he was yummy.

1298
00:55:46.640 --> 00:55:50.440
And Oh my gosh, I did so many inappropriate things with him, but that's before I really

1299
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:52.920
like Jesus got ahold of me.

1300
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.280
And so that's the crazy though.

1301
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:57.080
That's the chick he reached out to, right?

1302
00:55:57.080 --> 00:55:58.480
35 years has gone by.

1303
00:55:59.200 --> 00:56:01.800
So he doesn't know, like I'm all Jesus girl and like that little, that little romp in

1304
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:04.080
the hay is not going to happen.

1305
00:56:04.080 --> 00:56:08.760
And he started out trying to be the boyfriend, but then we broke up and the weirdest thing

1306
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:12.440
was he was the best non-boyfriend I had for the longest time.

1307
00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:15.920
Like he behaved like a boyfriend, but we weren't boyfriend and girlfriend.

1308
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:18.440
And I thought, my gosh, this is the best non-boyfriend I ever had.

1309
00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:19.880
We're totally going to get married.

1310
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:24.520
Well, the holidays rolled around and I was not included in the holidays at all with his

1311
00:56:24.520 --> 00:56:25.520
family.

1312
00:56:25.520 --> 00:56:27.240
And he was like, Renee, we're not even dating.

1313
00:56:27.240 --> 00:56:31.400
And I'm like, but you literally, I'm the first person you call every morning.

1314
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:34.200
I'm the last person you talk to at night.

1315
00:56:34.200 --> 00:56:38.760
We, you know, like what's not dating in this.

1316
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:42.880
And so we, so I don't say any, I don't give you a hard time because I've not had that

1317
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:43.880
guy.

1318
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:49.280
I'm just saying that guy is going to stop us from meeting our guy.

1319
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:55.200
And so he's just not pursuing you and he knows you're interested.

1320
00:56:55.200 --> 00:56:58.400
And so you can keep talking to him.

1321
00:56:58.400 --> 00:56:59.400
And oh, the praying thing.

1322
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:01.160
I wanted to warn you about the praying thing.

1323
00:57:01.160 --> 00:57:03.360
Jackie's really kind of clear about this.

1324
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:08.460
Now, I have balked at her saying this sometimes, but I'm really understanding what she means

1325
00:57:08.460 --> 00:57:09.460
by this.

1326
00:57:09.460 --> 00:57:13.680
We can create soul ties with people that we are praying for.

1327
00:57:13.680 --> 00:57:19.160
And so, and we've all used the Holy Spirit, and I've been saying we do it consciously

1328
00:57:19.160 --> 00:57:21.480
like, oh, the Holy Spirit made me think of you.

1329
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:22.480
Really?

1330
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:23.480
Really?

1331
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:24.480
Was it the Holy Spirit?

1332
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:25.760
Yeah.

1333
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:26.760
And I feel like I'm supposed to pray for you.

1334
00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:33.280
And it just continues to create a bond with that person, an intimate bond in a way that

1335
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:35.200
maybe is not what we're supposed to have.

1336
00:57:35.200 --> 00:57:40.520
So I kind of feel like I'm praying for you or the Lord told me the Holy Spirit led me

1337
00:57:40.520 --> 00:57:41.520
to call you.

1338
00:57:41.520 --> 00:57:46.520
I feel like that's just Christianese for bow cheeky, bow out.

1339
00:57:46.520 --> 00:57:52.920
I'm just saying, it's just, it's just window dressing for creating a connection.

1340
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:56.360
You know, like I was a cheerleader in college and we used to go to cheerleading camp and

1341
00:57:56.360 --> 00:57:59.240
guys would go, hey, do you want to go learn a partner stunt?

1342
00:57:59.240 --> 00:58:01.840
Yes, let's go learn some partner stunts.

1343
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:04.600
And so like, it's like, it just reminds me of that.

1344
00:58:04.600 --> 00:58:08.560
It's like, it's under the guise of something so innocent, but it's not.

1345
00:58:08.560 --> 00:58:11.080
So I'm just going to encourage you guys.

1346
00:58:11.080 --> 00:58:12.720
And so I'm glad you brought that up, Caroline.

1347
00:58:12.720 --> 00:58:19.600
So if you are listening to this, either in replay or live, and you can fall into that

1348
00:58:19.600 --> 00:58:25.920
trap of using prayer to keep a guy in the story or vice versa, just know that that can

1349
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:27.680
also create a soul tie.

1350
00:58:27.680 --> 00:58:30.000
And Jackie and I would just warn you against that.

1351
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:36.360
It's just, it just, it can create false intimacy, just like good sex can create false intimacy.

1352
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:40.440
And that's hard because praying for somebody seems so innocent and it seems that's like

1353
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:42.480
a noble, noble thing.

1354
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:43.480
Yeah.

1355
00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:44.480
Okay.

1356
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:48.400
Well, I'm just going to be praying for you, Caroline.

1357
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:49.400
And you know what?

1358
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:50.600
I am really proud of you for showing back up.

1359
00:58:50.600 --> 00:58:53.360
I did tough love you a bunch last week about it.

1360
00:58:53.360 --> 00:59:00.960
And I think it's only because I lost a lot of years of my singleness to those men.

1361
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:07.520
And I waited and baited and waited and baited and waited and baited.

1362
00:59:07.520 --> 00:59:13.920
And I don't want to see you do that too, but I support you and we care about you.

1363
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:20.520
And I know God's got his very best for you and you are worthy to be pursued as all of

1364
00:59:20.520 --> 00:59:21.640
you ladies are.

1365
00:59:21.640 --> 00:59:27.280
So I'm hoping as you're hearing these women share their story, you're like, oh, that's

1366
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:29.200
so me.

1367
00:59:29.200 --> 00:59:30.200
So me.

1368
00:59:30.200 --> 00:59:32.880
So thank you ladies for being brave.

1369
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:41.160
Does somebody else want to hop in the seat with either a question, a situation or a ha?

1370
00:59:41.160 --> 00:59:42.600
We have a good crowd tonight.

1371
00:59:42.600 --> 00:59:43.600
So I'm super excited.

1372
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:45.280
Some of you are like, heck no, man.

1373
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:52.080
Y'all just, like y'all just scared me, but y'all were brave.

1374
00:59:52.080 --> 00:59:55.880
I'm looking around, I'm looking around, I'm going to, I'm going to start calling on people

1375
00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:56.880
now.

1376
00:59:56.880 --> 00:59:57.880
I'm kidding.

1377
00:59:57.880 --> 00:59:58.880
All right.

1378
00:59:58.880 --> 00:59:59.880
Um, long distance.

1379
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:07.680
dating. Let's see. I feel like I covered, I feel like I covered all of the topics that

1380
01:00:07.680 --> 01:00:13.040
Bethany wanted me to. You guys stay in community. Don't be afraid to like, you're gonna be like,

1381
01:00:13.040 --> 01:00:17.440
oh my gosh, there's no way I'm going to tell my bad dating stories. You guys have to do it. Like,

1382
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:21.360
we all have to do it. This is the only way you're going to grow and learn and support one another.

1383
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:24.320
If you, and especially if you meet somebody that you really, really like,

1384
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:32.160
um, don't walk away from this community, date in this community, um, it'll be too easy for you to

1385
01:00:32.160 --> 01:00:38.080
slip up back up at old patterns. And so just hold each other accountable. You guys speak the truth

1386
01:00:38.080 --> 01:00:45.440
in love, be kind, speak the truth in love, watch what you say in the chat rooms, watch what you

1387
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:51.360
say on people's feeds. It's really easy to drag each other down. So just try to encourage one

1388
01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:56.320
another, let the coaches coach, but you can always be encouraging. You can always speak

1389
01:00:56.320 --> 01:01:02.560
life into people, um, and remind people of that. So I'm looking, I've, I remember so many of your

1390
01:01:02.560 --> 01:01:08.560
faces from the challenge and from phase one. And you guys, here's what I continue to be reminded of

1391
01:01:08.560 --> 01:01:18.000
is there is a sea of great godly, gorgeous women that deserve strong masculine men. And we have

1392
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:25.920
been accepting crumbs at the bottom of the buffet for too long. And we deserve the banquet and to

1393
01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:30.560
deserve the banquet. It means that we have to do some preparation. It means that we need to

1394
01:01:30.560 --> 01:01:35.280
be preparing. And it means that we need, you know, it's kind of like when you go to a restaurant,

1395
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.800
you don't want to overfill yourself on the appetizer and the bread, and then you don't

1396
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:44.560
get to enjoy the encore or the main course. Um, we want to make sure you get to enjoy the main course.

1397
01:01:45.520 --> 01:01:49.200
And I will say this, and I, and I say this as somebody who's still single, you guys,

1398
01:01:50.240 --> 01:01:54.640
being a part of this community has changed my life. It has filled a hole. Like I have a ton

1399
01:01:54.640 --> 01:02:00.000
of friends. I have a ton of acquaintances, but most of my married friend population have no idea

1400
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:06.480
how to handle my singleness. It's either gone from like, okay, you're just too picky. And I might be,

1401
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:11.440
I mean, I might be, or you've been too busy in ministry and you know, you didn't make time for

1402
01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:17.040
anybody also true. Um, but they have no, they don't have the same compassion. They don't have

1403
01:02:17.040 --> 01:02:21.600
the same capacity. They don't have the same understanding. So I've stopped expecting my

1404
01:02:21.600 --> 01:02:27.120
married friends to understand all the stuff that I'm going through. This community understands

1405
01:02:27.120 --> 01:02:33.200
we are here with you, but I promise like, since I've been in this community, like I had the guts

1406
01:02:33.200 --> 01:02:38.480
to leave running a nonprofit after 18 years, I published a book. I got into seminary school.

1407
01:02:39.040 --> 01:02:46.320
Um, I'm losing weight, healthy. Um, I feel worthy and valued and loved. Like I know I'm going to

1408
01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:50.320
make a great wife and I know my guy's coming. Like I know it in my knower. I felt like I've

1409
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:56.080
got my wedding date, which I don't even say that out loud very often, but, and I'm going to get to

1410
01:02:56.080 --> 01:03:01.600
walk into that relationship in a much healthier place and a much calmer place. I'm not going to

1411
01:03:01.600 --> 01:03:06.160
be desperate. I'm not rushing. I don't care. I don't care if I finished last in this race to

1412
01:03:06.160 --> 01:03:10.880
get married. You guys, I'm going to marry a great guy. I always used to say I'd rather be

1413
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:16.080
married to the right person for two years than the wrong one for 20. And so this is not a race.

1414
01:03:16.080 --> 01:03:24.080
This is not who finishes first. It's just, we want to finish well. And, um, I'm, I'm living my best

1415
01:03:24.080 --> 01:03:31.200
life right now. And Jackie wants you to live your best life right now too. So, um, she always says

1416
01:03:31.200 --> 01:03:37.280
the guy is the icing on the cake. I don't know why some women in this community find their guy

1417
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:41.920
right away. And some of us have to wait longer. I don't have an earthly answer for that, but I

1418
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:48.000
trust God. I have to, and I said this last week, if I can trust God with something as big as my

1419
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:53.520
salvation and where I'm going to spend eternity, then I have to be able to trust him with my

1420
01:03:53.520 --> 01:03:58.880
married life too. And my single life, like I just have to, um, or else I don't trust him with my

1421
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:04.160
salvation. I don't trust that he's God. So God is good all the time. All the time. God is good.

1422
01:04:04.160 --> 01:04:09.360
He is moving in even when we don't see it. So I feel like that's my encouragement to you. And I

1423
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:14.960
think I'm just, if there's not another comment question, aha, I'm going to hold open like 30

1424
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:20.320
more seconds to make sure somebody else didn't get to ask something. You matter. So if you've

1425
01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:24.080
got a question or aha, what you have to say matters, it might be the very thing someone

1426
01:04:24.080 --> 01:04:33.520
else needs to hear. Can I ask a question? Yes, ma'am. Yes. Hi, I'm Swanna. Yes. You're,

1427
01:04:33.520 --> 01:04:41.440
you're a hoot by the way. I, you're just, it was just fun hearing your stories. Um,

1428
01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:47.200
since I just jumped on phase two, um, uh, you know, there's the videos. I literally haven't

1429
01:04:47.200 --> 01:04:53.120
had a chance to do much of anything. So all of this will go in or a certain order because

1430
01:04:53.120 --> 01:04:59.840
obviously being on all these different websites and all that down the road. Right. Just, yeah.

1431
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.920
Just enjoy like we encourage you guys to come to the check-ins.

1432
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:07.280
So you guys aren't all going at the same pace anymore.

1433
01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:10.640
So it used to be each week we were talking about a different topic.

1434
01:05:10.640 --> 01:05:16.000
Now in general, we are discussing the things that got highlighted during your roll call.

1435
01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:20.400
And the beauty is sort of like now you're starting to hear from us in different phases.

1436
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:25.680
So now when you watch the videos, you're gonna be like, oh my gosh, you're gonna have ahas.

1437
01:05:25.680 --> 01:05:28.240
And when you start dating, you're gonna be like, oh, well, good.

1438
01:05:28.240 --> 01:05:29.200
She made that mistake.

1439
01:05:29.200 --> 01:05:30.800
Now I'm not gonna make that mistake.

1440
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:35.280
So that's the beauty of you guys all being in here at different spots

1441
01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:40.000
is that even if you're like, that's not me yet, but you're like, oh, that's a nugget.

1442
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:44.640
I'm gonna take that nugget with me because we all keep learning.

1443
01:05:44.640 --> 01:05:48.720
And every week you guys have new and different questions that aren't in the training.

1444
01:05:48.720 --> 01:05:51.520
And so it all just kind of compounds at all.

1445
01:05:51.520 --> 01:05:54.160
So you just enjoy the process.

1446
01:05:54.160 --> 01:05:54.660
Jennifer.

1447
01:05:56.480 --> 01:05:56.980
Hi.

1448
01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:57.680
Okay.

1449
01:05:57.680 --> 01:06:01.600
So real quick, I don't know if you remember me from last time.

1450
01:06:01.600 --> 01:06:04.960
Yes, you were the one that also needed to give an update.

1451
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:06.800
I knew there was someone else.

1452
01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:08.880
Yeah.

1453
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:10.640
So I did break the homework.

1454
01:06:10.640 --> 01:06:14.560
I did talk to him the next day, but I remembered your words.

1455
01:06:14.560 --> 01:06:15.440
It's really hard.

1456
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:21.120
And we did hang out, but I did start feeling that pressure to have sex again.

1457
01:06:21.120 --> 01:06:27.600
So I did cut it off with him and I blocked him, but I told him, you know, I think you're great.

1458
01:06:28.160 --> 01:06:34.640
I do wish only the best for you, but I don't know if you understand this, but for me, sex is a sin.

1459
01:06:34.640 --> 01:06:37.520
And so I just ended it.

1460
01:06:37.520 --> 01:06:43.840
So I went on hinge because I heard one of your talks about how it's your attitude.

1461
01:06:45.120 --> 01:06:46.560
And so I went on hinge.

1462
01:06:46.560 --> 01:06:49.600
So this guy, he wants to get coffee this weekend.

1463
01:06:51.120 --> 01:06:51.680
Yeah.

1464
01:06:51.680 --> 01:06:55.520
But like Mariners is having like a night of worship with Matt Redmond.

1465
01:06:55.520 --> 01:06:57.680
Would that be too much to ask him to go to that?

1466
01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:02.480
Just music.

1467
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:04.880
I know, but here's the problem.

1468
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:06.240
You won't be able to talk to him.

1469
01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:10.160
That's the point because I haven't met him before.

1470
01:07:10.160 --> 01:07:11.520
So then you have a concert.

1471
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:14.000
I will say this.

1472
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:15.680
Would you do the coffee before this?

1473
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:17.360
Yeah.

1474
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:19.360
You could always have it in your back pocket.

1475
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:23.680
If the date's going really well, you could always say like, I know this sounds crazy

1476
01:07:23.680 --> 01:07:26.080
and it's totally last minute, but I'm about to go do this.

1477
01:07:26.080 --> 01:07:27.120
Did you want to come with me?

1478
01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:28.400
Okay.

1479
01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:33.680
Or if the date's going, you're gonna be like, hey, I hate to do this, but I got something else.

1480
01:07:33.680 --> 01:07:36.800
I got to be, I bought the tickets before I met you or booked this.

1481
01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:39.760
So I would have it in your back pocket.

1482
01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:40.960
Okay.

1483
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:41.600
Awesome.

1484
01:07:41.600 --> 01:07:42.000
Okay.

1485
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:42.320
Thank you.

1486
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:43.600
I'm so proud of you.

1487
01:07:43.600 --> 01:07:44.240
So proud of you.

1488
01:07:44.240 --> 01:07:45.600
Thank you.

1489
01:07:46.240 --> 01:07:47.920
I knew there was a third person.

1490
01:07:49.120 --> 01:07:52.720
I like how you stayed in the background almost the whole night though.

1491
01:07:53.040 --> 01:07:53.840
I was driving.

1492
01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:55.680
Yeah.

1493
01:07:55.680 --> 01:07:56.000
Okay.

1494
01:07:56.960 --> 01:07:58.320
Katie, did you have a question?

1495
01:07:58.320 --> 01:07:59.360
I don't know where you went though.

1496
01:07:59.360 --> 01:07:59.840
There you go.

1497
01:08:01.040 --> 01:08:01.760
You have a question.

1498
01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:08.640
So I just started phase two and I have my first date on Thursday.

1499
01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:13.600
And when I scheduled the date, I was feeling good.

1500
01:08:13.600 --> 01:08:16.080
And now that as I'm getting closer, I'm getting nervous.

1501
01:08:16.080 --> 01:08:21.279
I'm curious if you or anyone else has any suggestions on what to do when you're getting

1502
01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:22.800
those first date jitters.

1503
01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:23.520
Yeah.

1504
01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:27.200
I feel like you should just stay home and watch a movie.

1505
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:28.240
I know.

1506
01:08:28.240 --> 01:08:29.120
We all want to do that.

1507
01:08:30.240 --> 01:08:30.880
What's the date?

1508
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:32.080
What did you guys decide to do?

1509
01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:41.439
So I love playing games, any game, board game, trivia, yard games, sports.

1510
01:08:41.439 --> 01:08:46.240
And on my profile, part of it was talking how I love playing trivia.

1511
01:08:46.240 --> 01:08:50.399
And I'll usually go once a week with my friends and my brother and cousin.

1512
01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:54.960
I didn't offer that much information, but just for you guys.

1513
01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:55.920
So that's what you guys are going to do?

1514
01:08:55.920 --> 01:08:56.880
You're going to go do trivia?

1515
01:08:57.439 --> 01:08:59.040
So we're going to do trivia at a different place.

1516
01:08:59.040 --> 01:09:01.439
Not where I usually go, but at a place I'm familiar with.

1517
01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:01.840
Perfect.

1518
01:09:03.200 --> 01:09:08.960
I just feel like I know first date, I'll be nervous, but at least I like playing trivia.

1519
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:10.319
So I'll be looking forward to it.

1520
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:13.439
But now that I'm getting closer, I'm still actually kind of nervous.

1521
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:13.680
Yeah.

1522
01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:15.120
I mean, I will say this.

1523
01:09:15.120 --> 01:09:20.640
So here are the things I try to do to get rid of my extra energy the day of a date.

1524
01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:25.600
Whether it's go to the gym, yoga, worship music.

1525
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:31.279
What's the thing that takes your heart rate down and slows your breathing down?

1526
01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:32.720
Like, what's the thing for you?

1527
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:38.319
Probably working out.

1528
01:09:38.319 --> 01:09:41.600
Probably music, prayer, journaling.

1529
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:43.040
Journaling is really important.

1530
01:09:43.040 --> 01:09:44.800
So make sure you hit the gym.

1531
01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:47.840
Make sure you hit the gym and you hit it hard.

1532
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:49.439
So it really kind of wears you out.

1533
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:51.680
And it kind of mellows you out.

1534
01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:57.360
And then take a nice, long, hot shower and then zap some cold water on you in the last

1535
01:09:57.360 --> 01:09:59.760
30 seconds to kind of wake you back up.

1536
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:06.800
And then while you're getting ready have some worship music going and so that's the voice that fills the air

1537
01:10:07.240 --> 01:10:08.840
around you

1538
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:12.240
And then constantly tell yourself like when you get a car

1539
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:16.400
Just say I am meeting a new friend for game night. I

1540
01:10:17.040 --> 01:10:20.120
Don't have to decide if I like him at the end of the night

1541
01:10:20.120 --> 01:10:26.360
I don't have to decide if I'm gonna marry him and guess what if he and I both decide or one of us decides

1542
01:10:26.360 --> 01:10:29.900
We don't want to see each other again. I hope we can still have a good time

1543
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:34.320
Like literally start writing that stuff. So, you know, you said you like to journal

1544
01:10:34.320 --> 01:10:39.900
So it kind of writing it out. Like how can I bless him tonight? How can I show kindness tonight?

1545
01:10:40.120 --> 01:10:42.340
How can I be a light tonight?

1546
01:10:42.340 --> 01:10:47.240
How can I have more fun tonight like kind of start to write out that mantra?

1547
01:10:47.240 --> 01:10:51.720
Like I always used to go into first date going. Oh my gosh. Is he the one is he the one?

1548
01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:57.160
He's either one and now I'm just kind of like I'm like, oh my gosh. It's like I don't know

1549
01:10:57.160 --> 01:11:01.160
I'm gonna just have fun or not like even the bad dates last week

1550
01:11:01.160 --> 01:11:02.560
They all heard about my bad date

1551
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:07.160
You know with the guy that almost ran out of the coffee shop the second he heard that I was going to seminary school

1552
01:11:07.160 --> 01:11:09.840
I mean he couldn't get out of there fast enough and like I just laughed

1553
01:11:15.320 --> 01:11:17.160
And so

1554
01:11:17.160 --> 01:11:21.360
It's so I would say do all of those things. Make sure you work out and

1555
01:11:22.280 --> 01:11:25.560
Watch something is somebody funny like if you like comedians

1556
01:11:26.320 --> 01:11:33.720
This guy he's local. He's a clean comedian. He's local to me Nate, but he filled up he was just he just hosted them

1557
01:11:34.280 --> 01:11:36.280
He just hosted

1558
01:11:37.440 --> 01:11:43.800
Serenade live like watch his funny comedian like something that's just gonna make you laugh before you go on your date

1559
01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:46.500
So I've given you lots of options work out

1560
01:11:47.320 --> 01:11:54.280
Worship music journal good mantra watch a funny comedian do all of those things because it doesn't matter

1561
01:11:54.280 --> 01:11:56.480
He could be your guy or he could be great friend

1562
01:11:56.960 --> 01:12:01.600
or at the very least, you know, you kick-ass and cheerio pursuit and they're whatever, you know, and

1563
01:12:04.320 --> 01:12:10.280
Hope hopefully that helps and you're gonna do great and I'm really proud of you and I'm glad you picked something fun to do and

1564
01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:14.920
Mishanda is am I saying that right Mishanda? Where'd you go?

1565
01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:18.440
Where'd you just go

1566
01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:23.800
Mishanda thank you. I just get so mesmerized by your gorgeous photo every time I'm like

1567
01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:30.220
Thank you, I have a question I too like I think it was

1568
01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:35.600
Katie and Sharma just coming into this and it does seem like

1569
01:12:36.360 --> 01:12:41.840
We're coming in and we're listening to the stories, which is great. But if we're just on the love accelerator

1570
01:12:43.120 --> 01:12:45.120
What is the expectation like?

1571
01:12:45.120 --> 01:12:47.760
Well one is this class an hour and a half like

1572
01:12:50.080 --> 01:12:53.840
This class here on Tuesday nights, it's an hour hour

1573
01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:56.680
And I mean, I'm probably gonna you're gonna like you're a lot

1574
01:12:56.680 --> 01:12:59.520
These last two questions are gonna be probably the last ones that I take

1575
01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:03.960
So if there were zero questions at the top of the hour, I would have just closed it down

1576
01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:10.160
So you just so the only expectation is for you to come with any question that you have

1577
01:13:10.160 --> 01:13:14.480
So when I say hey you guys so I start the night and I'm always gonna cover

1578
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:22.000
What we see as the common thread that's showing up in the roll call and then when I open the floor to a question

1579
01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:26.440
Everybody is allowed to ask a question with wherever they're at in the process

1580
01:13:26.440 --> 01:13:32.520
And so your question could be you could have come in, you know 40 minutes ago and said, you know, I just started

1581
01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:35.000
What would you be your what would be your guide for me?

1582
01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:38.400
Like what's the one thing you would tell somebody who's just starting the program?

1583
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:45.320
You know I'm saying so like this is really your time at any place and so you are so you're getting a taste of

1584
01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:51.840
Where women are and some folks are at the very very beginning and so you've just finished the love story accelerator

1585
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:54.600
The next video you're gonna get is dating 101

1586
01:13:55.000 --> 01:14:02.240
then divine feminine then online dating and then boundaries and you're gonna kind of sit in that for the next few weeks and

1587
01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:05.140
Some people are gonna want to start dating right away

1588
01:14:05.900 --> 01:14:07.660
Other people might say, you know

1589
01:14:07.660 --> 01:14:13.780
I'm gonna hold off on dating and not finish dating until I watch all of the videos and I'm gonna sit back and listen to

1590
01:14:13.780 --> 01:14:16.920
Everyone else's stories for a couple weeks before I get out there dating

1591
01:14:17.020 --> 01:14:21.460
So it is really the dating is really at your pace right now

1592
01:14:21.740 --> 01:14:26.740
She's kind of open the floor. You're allowed to go date or if you're like, hey Renee

1593
01:14:26.740 --> 01:14:28.460
I don't want to do any online dating

1594
01:14:28.460 --> 01:14:35.020
Do you have any suggestions on ways to meet guys in the real world besides online dating and then I can give you ideas

1595
01:14:35.140 --> 01:14:36.220
so

1596
01:14:36.220 --> 01:14:38.860
That's what this time is for every single week

1597
01:14:38.860 --> 01:14:45.300
It's really to ask questions that you're having during the week no matter where you are at in phase two

1598
01:14:45.300 --> 01:14:52.500
And so sometimes just listening to other people will help you but it's not technically a teaching night

1599
01:14:52.500 --> 01:14:54.100
It's basically a check-in

1600
01:14:54.100 --> 01:15:00.100
That's what Monday nights were for you guys before and it's what now Tuesday nights are it's really your time

1601
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.060
check in. So we will always start with home, you know,

1602
01:15:03.060 --> 01:15:06.660
with like housekeeping items, some themes and teaching,

1603
01:15:06.900 --> 01:15:10.580
but then we will always answer your dating questions and they're all going to be

1604
01:15:10.580 --> 01:15:13.460
all over the map. So does that help at all?

1605
01:15:15.220 --> 01:15:16.700
Does a little bit, I think

1606
01:15:19.260 --> 01:15:23.700
it does. It's a little confusing. And I think I love hearing stories.

1607
01:15:23.740 --> 01:15:27.540
I I'm actually a stories person, so I love hearing Shannon's story. And then,

1608
01:15:28.080 --> 01:15:33.040
you know who was the other young lady who shared that had a funny story?

1609
01:15:33.320 --> 01:15:34.160
Carolyn. Yeah.

1610
01:15:35.400 --> 01:15:37.560
I love hearing it, but I think I was,

1611
01:15:38.080 --> 01:15:41.640
I was confused about the format because it is a little bit different than the

1612
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:45.840
first year. And so I just felt like, okay,

1613
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:50.040
I'm sitting here it's late on the East coast and I'm like, oh, okay.

1614
01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:52.760
So to me, it was a little,

1615
01:15:52.760 --> 01:15:57.100
yeah, you know what? Yeah. I mean,

1616
01:15:57.100 --> 01:16:01.420
and here's the thing you can always hop off at any time that you need to like,

1617
01:16:01.460 --> 01:16:02.100
I get it girl.

1618
01:16:02.100 --> 01:16:05.620
Cause I've had to teach back in the East coast when I was home and I'm like,

1619
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:09.080
oh my gosh, starting at eight o'clock is so much harder. Um,

1620
01:16:09.080 --> 01:16:10.100
so it was really hard for me.

1621
01:16:10.100 --> 01:16:13.540
So if you ever guys need to hop off or watch and replay, go ahead and do so.

1622
01:16:13.820 --> 01:16:16.940
So I appreciate you saying that. And you know,

1623
01:16:17.820 --> 01:16:20.740
this is a new year that we're doing it this way.

1624
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:25.560
And so I have been conscious of the clunkiness of that,

1625
01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:29.600
of like, you know, this year people are coming in at different phases,

1626
01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:32.920
or they stay in phase one longer, people stay in phase two longer.

1627
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:37.320
So you're not going to have the same flow as, okay, we all did this this week.

1628
01:16:37.320 --> 01:16:38.440
We all did this this week.

1629
01:16:38.480 --> 01:16:42.640
And so I feel like the beauty is you get to go at your own pace.

1630
01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:45.480
The hard part is this might feel confusing for you.

1631
01:16:45.480 --> 01:16:47.800
So now what you know,

1632
01:16:48.340 --> 01:16:51.420
the one o'clock and the eight o'clock timeframe is you're going to get some

1633
01:16:51.420 --> 01:16:54.420
summary notes, some highlights of what we're seeing.

1634
01:16:54.700 --> 01:16:57.820
And then it's open questions. Here's what I hope happens though.

1635
01:16:58.060 --> 01:17:00.220
Even if people are further ahead than you,

1636
01:17:00.220 --> 01:17:04.620
because I kept trying to stop them in the story to give you guys highlights of

1637
01:17:04.620 --> 01:17:07.540
things to pick up and things to take notice of.

1638
01:17:07.540 --> 01:17:10.340
And those are things that you can be taking notes on like, okay,

1639
01:17:10.340 --> 01:17:13.260
I want to make sure I remember that. Okay. That was a good noodle.

1640
01:17:13.260 --> 01:17:15.020
I wouldn't have done that. Um,

1641
01:17:15.020 --> 01:17:18.960
because sometimes the stuff we're answering in these questions aren't in the

1642
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:21.440
videos. And so consider,

1643
01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:24.720
so we're not just sharing stories for the sake of sharing stories.

1644
01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:28.440
I'm hoping that you start to learn from one another in walking through their

1645
01:17:28.440 --> 01:17:31.320
story with them. But I really appreciate you being honest about that.

1646
01:17:31.320 --> 01:17:36.240
And I will talk to Bethany and see how we can be as clear as we can.

1647
01:17:36.240 --> 01:17:40.460
But if you need to get off the phone and watch the rest of it on replay as okay

1648
01:17:40.460 --> 01:17:44.040
to, you have our permission to do that. Um, Shanna,

1649
01:17:44.060 --> 01:17:47.260
I'm going to take your question and then we will probably wrap up.

1650
01:17:49.180 --> 01:17:52.260
Awesome. Um, thank you for taking the time. Um, I'm,

1651
01:17:53.180 --> 01:17:57.700
I'm happy to be able to make it. I usually have community or small group. Um,

1652
01:17:57.860 --> 01:17:59.660
oh no, my, my computer's going to die.

1653
01:18:04.700 --> 01:18:05.540
Um,

1654
01:18:06.360 --> 01:18:11.840
there we go. Should work. Okay. Um,

1655
01:18:12.440 --> 01:18:16.280
yes, I would agree. Um, that the, the,

1656
01:18:16.320 --> 01:18:20.160
the process has been a little bit clunky. Um, it's been a little bit challenging.

1657
01:18:20.160 --> 01:18:22.600
I'm an, I'm an admin, I'm an executive admin for,

1658
01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:26.180
for my job and I'm even trying to follow and I'm a perfectionist that I want to

1659
01:18:26.180 --> 01:18:28.400
do everything right. So, um,

1660
01:18:29.400 --> 01:18:33.360
so it is a little bit hard to follow as to like when you go on to phase three,

1661
01:18:33.900 --> 01:18:38.540
um, right now for me, I'm marinating and the dating portion.

1662
01:18:39.660 --> 01:18:44.140
Um, I, my last relationship was a year ago and, um,

1663
01:18:44.420 --> 01:18:48.140
I've done the online thing off and on for 10 years anyway. Um,

1664
01:18:48.260 --> 01:18:52.100
so it's just kind of getting myself back out there and getting comfortable with

1665
01:18:52.380 --> 01:18:56.460
asking to be set up and those types of things. So I know we're running, um,

1666
01:18:56.700 --> 01:18:59.020
to the end of the time, but I guess my,

1667
01:18:59.720 --> 01:19:01.960
my purpose of coming on here is, um,

1668
01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:06.440
I have met someone online on Bumble and,

1669
01:19:07.120 --> 01:19:09.840
um, I went on one date. Um,

1670
01:19:10.480 --> 01:19:14.320
he seems to have a solid background. It's, it's interesting enough.

1671
01:19:14.320 --> 01:19:17.920
We used to go to the same church. He used to go to the church that I'm at.

1672
01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:23.000
We actually served in the same ministry, but did not meet each other. Um,

1673
01:19:23.360 --> 01:19:26.520
and then he left the church a number of years ago,

1674
01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:30.980
actually got married, then divorced, and then, um,

1675
01:19:32.740 --> 01:19:36.860
went through the process of all of that now attending a different church.

1676
01:19:37.980 --> 01:19:42.980
Um, and so I guess my, my question would be, um,

1677
01:19:43.780 --> 01:19:47.300
I put a lot of pressure on trying to figure out if, if the,

1678
01:19:47.300 --> 01:19:50.380
the marriage or divorce was, you know,

1679
01:19:51.660 --> 01:19:55.020
done correctly, if you will. Um, you know, I,

1680
01:19:55.120 --> 01:19:57.080
I don't want to continue on if somebody,

1681
01:19:57.080 --> 01:20:00.000
if there's somebody that's just in a relationship and just wants to give.

1682
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:08.760
up, you know, and so, um, so I find myself justifying, I don't

1683
01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:12.240
know, I don't know what I'm trying to say, but I appreciate

1684
01:20:12.240 --> 01:20:17.480
him. He's been very intentional. He's been very upfront with

1685
01:20:17.480 --> 01:20:21.120
what's what's gone on in his past. He's open to questions,

1686
01:20:21.120 --> 01:20:24.280
but I also have asked questions and I don't want to go too deep.

1687
01:20:24.280 --> 01:20:28.520
It's just been one date. And so if there's any tips on on how to

1688
01:20:28.520 --> 01:20:33.240
get to know somebody, but not go too deep, as well, and also

1689
01:20:33.240 --> 01:20:36.520
enjoy the process, you know, I don't need to figure out when to

1690
01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:40.640
marry him today. So it's just kind of one of those where I

1691
01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:43.560
have a little bit of anxiousness over it, because marriage and

1692
01:20:43.560 --> 01:20:47.680
divorce is not a part of my story. I've, I've seen friends

1693
01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:52.440
walk through things that, you know, divorce was absolutely

1694
01:20:52.440 --> 01:20:58.480
necessary. And I believe that is part of the process. And so, um,

1695
01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:03.040
I think I'm just struggling a little bit with seeing past

1696
01:21:03.040 --> 01:21:04.080
that, if you will.

1697
01:21:04.440 --> 01:21:10.840
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I get it. Like for me, I actually

1698
01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:14.640
expect a guy to be divorced at my age. But I will admit, like,

1699
01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:19.040
I definitely can have a judgmental attitude. If I hear

1700
01:21:19.040 --> 01:21:21.120
that they've been divorced twice. That's my thing. I'm

1701
01:21:21.120 --> 01:21:24.800
like, because I've never been married. So like one divorce is

1702
01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:29.800
hard enough for me to I'd be like, really. Um, so the first

1703
01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:32.160
thing that you want to make sure that you do is you want to just

1704
01:21:32.160 --> 01:21:35.080
get to know him and you have to make sure you like who he is

1705
01:21:35.080 --> 01:21:40.600
today. So there is a time for you to unpack his past. But you

1706
01:21:40.600 --> 01:21:45.000
most want to make sure that you like who he is today. And so the

1707
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:48.720
best way to do that is to do stuff with them and not just

1708
01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:53.880
talk to them. And that's why we try to stay away from continuous

1709
01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:58.400
dates that are just talking. Because all you can do is either

1710
01:21:58.400 --> 01:22:01.920
talk about the past or talk about the future. What you want

1711
01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:06.280
to find out is who this human is today. And so you know, that's

1712
01:22:06.280 --> 01:22:09.040
why you want to pick activities to do. Hey, do you want to go

1713
01:22:09.040 --> 01:22:12.760
bowling? Hey, do you want to go do an escape game? Hey, do you

1714
01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:16.840
want to go volunteer at a soup kitchen? Like, hey, do you want

1715
01:22:16.840 --> 01:22:20.040
to go build something you want to like put yourself in

1716
01:22:20.040 --> 01:22:24.560
situations where you can see how this person handles stress,

1717
01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:29.560
handles community, handles discomfort? And you want to make

1718
01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:32.360
sure do I even like this guy? Because here's the truth.

1719
01:22:32.360 --> 01:22:35.840
Remember how I talked about people have to earn your private

1720
01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:40.280
story. You haven't earned his story yet. Do you know what I

1721
01:22:40.280 --> 01:22:42.920
mean? Like so you don't get to know the details of the divorce

1722
01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:46.560
yet. So now all you guys need to be doing is finding out is if do

1723
01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:50.960
you like each other today. And so a lot of times it's just

1724
01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:55.480
doing stuff. I think going to a trivia game is really great. You

1725
01:22:55.480 --> 01:22:58.480
I have a box of questions that are really fun questions. I

1726
01:22:58.480 --> 01:23:00.000
will sometimes whip him out like, all right, I have some

1727
01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:03.120
fun questions. Do you want to do some fun questions? Like and

1728
01:23:03.160 --> 01:23:05.480
they're just silly, fun questions. And you learn the

1729
01:23:05.480 --> 01:23:09.120
quirkiest things about them play a board game with them. Find out

1730
01:23:09.120 --> 01:23:13.280
how they handle losing or winning. And like, start to put

1731
01:23:13.280 --> 01:23:16.880
yourself in situations where you get to see how they live

1732
01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:21.960
everyday life. And then after like three or four or five dates

1733
01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:26.040
like that, you know, you have to really decide Do I really want

1734
01:23:26.040 --> 01:23:28.960
to hang out this person? Where do I think it can be going? And

1735
01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:31.840
then you can decide at some point like, hey, I can't be

1736
01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:35.320
exclusive with you until I learn a little bit more about the

1737
01:23:35.320 --> 01:23:38.440
divorce. Obviously, you can't tell me all the details. But can

1738
01:23:38.440 --> 01:23:41.720
you give me a little bit more information? Tell me a little

1739
01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:44.160
bit more? What did you learn from that? And here's how

1740
01:23:44.200 --> 01:23:47.240
Shannon, here's how I find out about a divorce. I'm actually

1741
01:23:47.240 --> 01:23:51.160
less concerned in the details of a divorce. I'm more concerned

1742
01:23:51.160 --> 01:23:53.960
with what they've learned from it. So a question I might ask a

1743
01:23:53.960 --> 01:23:58.480
guy is, well, you know, like looking, like looking at your

1744
01:23:58.480 --> 01:24:01.880
marriage, obviously, without dragging her into it, or the

1745
01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:04.680
details, you know, what do you think you've learned most about

1746
01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:07.240
yourself? Like, what would you do differently? Or what do you

1747
01:24:07.240 --> 01:24:09.520
think you're going to do differently in your next

1748
01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:13.360
relationship? That's what I'm more concerned about. I'm more

1749
01:24:13.360 --> 01:24:16.520
concerned is, are they reflective about this? Are they

1750
01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:19.520
repentant? Do they own their side of the street? And have

1751
01:24:19.520 --> 01:24:22.080
they learned how to figure out what they're going to do

1752
01:24:22.080 --> 01:24:24.720
differently? I'm way more concerned than that, than

1753
01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:26.760
hearing the blow by blow of the marriage.

1754
01:24:30.080 --> 01:24:34.360
Yeah, he shared quite a bit. He was open to doing that, because

1755
01:24:34.360 --> 01:24:39.280
I think he felt obligated. Like, he seemed to talk in a

1756
01:24:39.280 --> 01:24:44.040
very caring way about his ex, even though it seemed like it

1757
01:24:44.040 --> 01:24:48.400
was not a great situation. So it's like, I feel like I know

1758
01:24:48.400 --> 01:24:49.120
too much.

1759
01:24:50.240 --> 01:24:53.280
Well, I mean, sometimes people, you know, it's funny, because

1760
01:24:53.280 --> 01:24:55.920
sometimes we feel like we need to explain, right? Like, I feel

1761
01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:58.320
like there's, and that probably, you know, sometimes there's

1762
01:24:58.320 --> 01:25:00.040
shame there, there's embarrassment.

1763
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.240
They're like, I know some of us who've never been married.

1764
01:25:02.240 --> 01:25:03.520
We feel like we have to over-explain

1765
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:04.680
why we've never been married.

1766
01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:06.640
We're like, all right, I have to explain that.

1767
01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:08.680
Like, wait, right, how come you've never been married?

1768
01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:11.200
Like, oh, like, you know what?

1769
01:25:11.200 --> 01:25:12.600
I mean, so now I've like learned,

1770
01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:14.360
like I don't need to explain it so much.

1771
01:25:14.360 --> 01:25:17.280
And so, but it's very normal for people to feel like,

1772
01:25:17.280 --> 01:25:19.620
especially, yeah, they have to over-explain.

1773
01:25:19.620 --> 01:25:21.880
So just start doing some fun things with them.

1774
01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:22.920
And you guys, here's the thing,

1775
01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:25.400
it's a whole, it's a yes until it's a no.

1776
01:25:25.400 --> 01:25:28.460
Don't keep making it a yes if you don't enjoy your time.

1777
01:25:28.460 --> 01:25:31.260
Like, if after the second or third date,

1778
01:25:31.260 --> 01:25:35.540
you're like, eh, about it, like, don't go anymore.

1779
01:25:35.540 --> 01:25:36.380
Like, do you know what I mean?

1780
01:25:36.380 --> 01:25:38.360
Like, you should start to grow

1781
01:25:38.360 --> 01:25:40.180
in your enjoyment with this person.

1782
01:25:40.180 --> 01:25:43.460
So no one on this team wants you to keep dating somebody

1783
01:25:44.860 --> 01:25:47.660
if you're like, eh, about it.

1784
01:25:47.660 --> 01:25:49.800
I wouldn't want a guy keep dating me

1785
01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:52.100
if he was just, meh, about me.

1786
01:25:52.100 --> 01:25:54.540
Like, I would want him to be like, gosh,

1787
01:25:54.540 --> 01:25:55.900
she's really cute, she's really sweet.

1788
01:25:55.900 --> 01:25:56.860
I don't know if she's the one,

1789
01:25:56.860 --> 01:25:59.300
but I really am enjoying my time with her.

1790
01:25:59.300 --> 01:26:01.380
So that's how long you keep talking to them.

1791
01:26:01.380 --> 01:26:02.820
You keep enjoying it.

1792
01:26:02.820 --> 01:26:05.700
And then I would say that Bethany would say

1793
01:26:05.700 --> 01:26:07.540
from the heartwork side of it,

1794
01:26:07.540 --> 01:26:10.860
she would say, what's stirring up in you

1795
01:26:10.860 --> 01:26:13.880
that you're holding judgment about the divorce?

1796
01:26:13.880 --> 01:26:16.500
Like, what's that bringing up for you?

1797
01:26:17.460 --> 01:26:18.780
Is there a time in your life

1798
01:26:18.780 --> 01:26:20.700
where you felt like you had to do it perfectly

1799
01:26:20.700 --> 01:26:22.100
or you couldn't have a mistake?

1800
01:26:22.100 --> 01:26:25.300
Or does that fall into your belief system

1801
01:26:25.380 --> 01:26:26.460
about who God is

1802
01:26:26.460 --> 01:26:29.220
and what do you believe about redemption and forgiveness?

1803
01:26:29.220 --> 01:26:31.820
So it also is a good time for you

1804
01:26:31.820 --> 01:26:34.220
to kind of see what that's stirring up in you

1805
01:26:35.060 --> 01:26:37.020
and seeing what God might have for you.

1806
01:26:37.020 --> 01:26:38.020
I don't know what that is,

1807
01:26:38.020 --> 01:26:43.060
but there might be something there for you

1808
01:26:43.060 --> 01:26:44.320
that has led them to do it.

1809
01:26:44.320 --> 01:26:45.160
No, that's good.

1810
01:26:45.160 --> 01:26:46.700
That's good, thank you.

1811
01:26:46.700 --> 01:26:47.580
All right, you guys.

1812
01:26:47.580 --> 01:26:50.360
Well, I do appreciate your time.

1813
01:26:50.360 --> 01:26:54.400
And now that you have a feel for what these weeks are like,

1814
01:26:54.400 --> 01:26:55.240
it's great.

1815
01:26:55.240 --> 01:26:56.240
We're gonna be fabulous.

1816
01:26:56.240 --> 01:26:57.480
And you guys come when you can,

1817
01:26:57.480 --> 01:26:58.600
stay as long as you can,

1818
01:26:58.600 --> 01:27:00.200
and get off when you need to.

1819
01:27:00.200 --> 01:27:02.920
So go have a great, great week.

1820
01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:05.840
If you have questions throughout the week,

1821
01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:07.600
please put them in the Facebook page.

1822
01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:09.480
The coaches love to be there for you.

1823
01:27:09.480 --> 01:27:11.260
We're just here for you in this journey.

1824
01:27:11.260 --> 01:27:13.020
Some people are gonna go slower or faster,

1825
01:27:13.020 --> 01:27:13.860
and it's okay.

1826
01:27:13.860 --> 01:27:15.920
And we'll get through the clunky together.
