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All right. Hey everyone and welcome to our Valentine's Day all community event. Guys,

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in my Facebook memories today popped up a memory from four years ago when I first started hosting

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online singles events during COVID. And what I would do is I would take pink post-its and

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blue post-its, I know super original, right? And I would organize them on the wall of my house

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because that's literally how many people there were. So I take a blank wall of my house and I

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would start putting the post-its up with the names of the people that were coming to the online event

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because it was COVID, everyone was locked down, there was nothing but online. And then I would

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rearrange the post-its into groups of who I thought should meet and how I wanted to match

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make the people that were coming to the event as far as putting them into breakout rooms with

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eligible people that I thought that they would have things in common with. And we had so many

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connections through those years. And I think that I might do it again.

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I think I might go back to the old post-its, although I will tell you that I want to be

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obedient to Holy Spirit. And I do believe that God has said that 2024 is an in-person year.

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And so we had an amazing in-person event in New York City. Some of you were there,

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it was incredible. Huge turnout, you guys. Packed house. Packed house. Guys, girls, so much fun. We

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talked about attachment style. I was the speaker. I talked about attachment style. And then we had

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some other fun breakouts and Q&A. We had a dance party afterwards. That was super fun. For those

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of you that like to dance, that was fun. And so we did all kinds of incredible things. And I do know

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for sure that there were people that met last night, not last night, but at that event on

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Saturday night that exchanged phone numbers and are talking now as a result of that event. So

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in-person is fun. Definitely want to do more of that. And we are going to be doing a tour of the

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single cities. So if you're in a single city area or you're close to one, a lot of people came in

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for that New York City event from PA, from Connecticut, from Jersey, and so from DC. So if you

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are in a single city area, we definitely want you guys to come in and do that. Y'all, I'm feeling

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myself in this red. I should wear red more. What the heck? I found the only red thing that I own.

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I'm like, it's Valentine's Day. I got to find something red. And it's a suit jacket. So I'm

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dressed up, but don't care. Don't mind me. It's all right. All right, so we're going to do a

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little scavenger hunt action after our Q&A with the guys. I'm just trying to entertain the troops

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here until we get all of our guys here. Let me see if our last guy is here. Yes, he is. All right.

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All right. Okay, so for those of you that know the he said, she said, you know the drill,

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then we have all these great guys. Hold on. Did one of them get knocked out? Let me see.

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All right. All the guys are spotlighted now. All right. So ladies, I want to introduce you and all

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of you guys that are not in the spotlight. There's a lot of other guys here. Please answer the

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questions in the chat. We want to hear from you guys as well. Everyone, please change your screen

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names to your name and where you're from. We want people to see where each other are located in the

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world. That it's really important in, you know, people reaching out. And a lot of times if someone

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goes to try to find you in the group, they're going to find you based on that as well. So go

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ahead and put your name up and where you're located. Give you guys a second to change your

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Zoom windows. So we've done he said, she said over the years. It's always been a really great time.

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In fact, we just had a couple engagements off of he said, she said here in the last few months.

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So that's been super fun to see that happen. That's where they met. They met here, y'all,

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right here in this forum, doing exactly what we're about to do tonight. But more than anything

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else, what this is about is community. That is what we love to do here is we love to do community.

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And so tonight it's about how can we have more community? Sorry, my computer's trying to share

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on my screen right now. We don't want that. How can we have more community? How can we strengthen

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community? Ladies, how can we get to know what it is that men are thinking, what they're feeling,

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what they want? Men, same way. How are we going to get to know what are the women, the Christian

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women, our sisters that are in community? What are they experiencing as single daughters of God?

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What is it that they want? What is it they're looking for? That is why we do what we do.

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So I have Renee on here with me. Renee, you're going to grab the questions.

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from the chat, guys that are not in the spotlight,

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please answer as well.

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So go ahead and start putting your questions up

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for Jonathan, Matt, David.

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And I always, you know, guys, I'm so hooked on phonics,

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but I say Benaiah, how do I actually say it?

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Please tell me, Benaiah.

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Yeah, you say it that way, yeah.

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Benaiah, I did it?

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You nailed it, you always nailed it every time.

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I have?

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Oh my gosh.

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Never got it wrong once.

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Wow, I'm so impressed with myself right now.

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And I'm impressed with your beard.

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You didn't have a beard like that the last time I saw you.

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And so here we are, I like it, it's good.

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Thank you.

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Okay, all right.

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So you guys, so Jonathan is everywhere,

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just so you know, Jonathan hails from,

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you know, he can be anywhere.

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He has let me know I can be anywhere that I need to be.

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You're gonna hear more from him.

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Benaiah is up in Dallas in the Fort Worth area.

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Matt's right here in Austin,

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just not that far from me over in Liberty Hill.

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So not that far from me up in Cedar Park.

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And then David is out, as you can see, in LA.

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Also in Reading a lot.

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Also gets around, right?

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Gets around to a lot of different places as well.

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And so we're gonna get started.

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So for all of you that have questions for these guys,

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put it up.

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And the way tonight's gonna go is we're gonna do Q&A.

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We're gonna do a little he said, she said here

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for a little while.

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And then we're gonna go into breakout rooms

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and we're gonna do a little scavenger hunt action,

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a little competition to see who has

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the most love themed stuff in their houses

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as a team, of course.

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And whatever team can come up with all the crazy things

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on this list, you guys will win the award,

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the accolades as the most love infused homes in our group.

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So Matt disappeared, but I'm sure he'll be back.

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All right, so let's get those questions going.

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And we're gonna have some fun.

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You guys really know holds barred,

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but before we even start, I'm gonna let them go clockwise.

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So it'll be Jonathan, Vinaya, David, and then Matt.

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Go ahead and short, brief, powerful introduction

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of yourself.

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Jonathan, you go first.

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I'm answering chats.

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You put me on the spot.

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What am I supposed to be doing?

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You don't have to answer chats.

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You're gonna answer the questions as I feed them to you.

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The ladies are gonna put them in the chat,

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but right now I just want you to introduce yourself.

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Just give us the facts, sir.

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The facts about you.

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Okay, the facts.

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Jonathan, 47 years old.

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I do live many different places.

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I spend winter months in the Florida

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and you'll find me on my sailboat in the summertime.

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I'm in the Middle East and overseas doing mission work

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a lot of the time as well.

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I travel the country speaking at churches.

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Love the Lord and looking for a beautiful woman to marry.

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All right, that's fair.

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Vinaya, go ahead.

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I'm in Fort Worth, Texas.

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I'm 33, about to be 34 in a couple months.

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I'm a holistic practitioner.

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I actually focus on emotional release

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and spiritual dynamics.

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I use muscle testing for those things.

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And yeah, I'm happy to be here.

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All right, you guys, that's awesome.

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David, yeah, go ahead.

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All right, David Kim here.

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I am 45.

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I have about a 20-year career

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in intellectual property law and business.

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And these days I'm a solo entrepreneur.

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So I'm mixing a lot of things in some ministry.

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I've been in Reading a whole lot.

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I actually met Jackie supernaturally,

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as you could say, in Reading.

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That was quite an encounter.

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That's such a fun story.

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I think we should tell it.

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Do you want us to tell the story?

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For those of you that are kind of like,

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eh, what does Jackie really mean she works supernaturally?

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No, that is completely legit.

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I was driving up my friend to Reading

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to move up there from Texas, where he met Jackie.

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hey, have you heard of Jackie's program?

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And I'm like, nah, okay, well, I'll sign up.

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Sure, I'll do anything.

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And then, so I'm messaging her

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in the middle of the week while I'm in Reading.

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And I'm about to text her.

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And then she and her husband, David,

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walk into the restaurant where we are.

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And I said, what are you doing here?

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Aren't you in the wrong state?

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And she's like, and I'm like, yeah,

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I'm here with my buddy that you know.

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And she's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, the Lord's been telling me, call all my Davids.

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And I'm like, okay, I'm one of those guys.

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And then she's like, yeah, and you, you?

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The Lord showed me your face this morning.

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And I'm like, oh, okay, here's what, I'm here.

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You guys, it was so fun.

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I was actually texting his friend that he was with,

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that he took, you know, that he moved to Reading,

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helped move to Reading.

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I was texting.

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him as I'm walking down the street in Reading, I'm about to go into this restaurant and before

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I can get the door open, the door flings open and it's the guy that I'm texting, who's his friend,

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who saw me coming up as he was texting me. He's like, wait, there she is. She's right here. She's

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coming into the restaurant. And so David and I were there and we, we walked in and you guys,

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you can't make this stuff up. God is on the move. All right. So David Solopreneur, awesome,

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awesome guy. Matt Miller. Matt, what do you got? And obviously you can see those cute littles

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in the background there. Oh, you're, you're muted the entire time. So you have to, yeah,

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go ahead and unmute. I know better than this. I'm on these calls all day long. So

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yeah, I'm in Austin, Texas. I am a, a shameless girl, dad. I've got three girls that are,

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that are seven, six and three and a half. I have them four days a week, every weekend. So it's my,

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my life is very busy with them, but I wouldn't have any other way. So I've been a Christ follower

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my whole life. My dad was a pastor for about 20 years. I was a worship leader myself for 20 years

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before I've been on a seven-year hiatus and my girls are begging me to get back into it. So

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been in construction 28 years, started off as a project engineer, project manager, superintendent,

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foreman, got into quality control. Now I'm into environmental health and safety.

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I'm trying to merge my way into, you know, construction management and doing,

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doing more of the high level stuff, getting into doing consultant work, things like that. It's

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kind of where I'm merging into. I want to be able to find more time with my girls and be able to do

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a lot more stuff like that. I actually found Jackie kind of the, kind of in a similar way to David.

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I had, I'd been divorced for, you know, divorced and separated for almost two and a half years and

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no, no, no rush, but I felt the Lord pulling me back into dating. And then my best friend,

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Mark, his dad found his wife through Jackie's program and he, he recommended me to his son.

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And then that's how it happened. But for me, as the guys are looking for a woman who loves Christ

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more than I do. I think the only way you can truly love your partner adequately, the way the

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word of God says for us to is you can't love your partner more than anything else. You have to love

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Christ first because he's got to prep your heart for that. You cannot have your heart empty. Those

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holes just get filled up with idols. But if you have Christ first, your heart's overflowing,

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you can receive that person. And that's how I'm trying to raise my girls and show them

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the value in that. And they're, they're wanting to have daddy be happy with somebody

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and have a bonus mom. So that's a big thing for them too. So.

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Yeah. Awesome. All right. We just got like 15, 20 women already saying, can I marry him? Great.

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Wonderful. All right. So you guys, for, for those of you that heard that his friend's father found

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success through this program, it was Ralph. So if you know, you know, I know a lot of you ladies

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were here from the Ralph era. So, you know, who Ralph is and you know, Ralph and Diana met on,

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he said, she said, that's how they got married. And so come on. All right. So we have a lot of

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great questions for you guys. And, um, not all of you have to answer the same question. We'll just

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feed you the questions and we'll go from there. Um, let's keep those answers short, brief and

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powerful because we don't have lots of time. And so we want to make sure we get as many questions

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answered as we can guys. And so first and foremost, uh, the ladies want to know, what do you guys do

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for fun? So we'll start, uh, we started clockwise. We'll start counterclockwise. We'll start with

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you, Matt on that. We'll go to David, go to Benaiah and then Jonathan, what do you do for fun?

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And don't say like worship the Lord. What do you do for fun? We want to know like outside of that,

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all of you, what else do you do for fun? My, all three of my girls have varying, um,

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like just demands of things they like to do. But for me personally, I mean, this may be a turnoff

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for certain people, but I, I haven't hunted for about 10 years, but I love hunting. I love the

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outdoors. I love camping, hiking. Um, but I also like to go to the shooting range every once in a

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while. And my girls are into that too. Um, they, we also do a lot of like road trips. Sometimes

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we'll drive up to Waco. We'll go down to San Antonio, go to the Riverwalk. I actually weird.

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I enjoy antique shopping. My mom got me into it like 30 years ago. So my girls love to do that.

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They've helped me pick out some of the stuff I've got in my house. Um, also going to playgrounds,

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going to places to listen to music, you know, just doing all kinds of stuff for them.

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You're in, you're in your dad era. You're in your dad. It's a lot of fun. So I'm just looking for

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somebody to go along with that. I mean, they love it. And, uh, that's kind of, it's, it's a lot of

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center around the girls, but for myself, I mean, I'm a foodie. I love to go out and eat. I,

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the occasional something like that. So it's, it's, it's kind of really open for a lot of stuff.

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up. So okay, yeah, it sounds like you like last up the

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hunting things important, because I just had a I just had

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a guy that matched with a woman that's one of my private

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clients. And the whole hunting thing was a deal breaker for

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like, legit a deal breaker. She doesn't eat meat. And she

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doesn't want anyone, you know, killing the meat that she

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doesn't eat. So there you have it. All right, David, what do

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All right, so I'm pretty, pretty open to all sorts of things.

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no guarantees. I've got no guarantees. Adventurous. But

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there's a lot of I'll try a lot of things. I'll try a lot of

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things. But yeah, so that does include me. So I'm the word

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here. I'm more here. Matt, you're very inspiring. You know,

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one day hope to have a hope to have dad my dad season. So

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that'll be a lot of fun. But aside from that, I'm kind of

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just raised a city guy. I do all sorts of nature things. But it's

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not like, you know, get me out into get me out into a camper.

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indoor activities.

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That's just how I love that, David. Yeah, my idea of camping

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is in a cabin. So no 10. Yeah, nice, like maybe like a nice

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Class A RV or something, you know, with a toilet, you know,

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running water, all the things. Okay, I love that. That's super

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honest. weirdest food you ever tried since you said, I'll try

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anything. Tell us what the weirdest food is.

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someone brought something that was pretty strange. Someone

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brought me a burlap bag. And inside there was a snake. It

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does taste like chicken. It does taste it was like a cooked

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snake. Well, so we're in China. We're in China. It was a gourmet

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restaurant. It was a gourmet restaurant, but it's so

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authentic. You know, some places have like, you know, live like

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pretty authentic. I serve it. So you like? Yeah, our host was

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like, yeah, let's do it. And we're like, and it came out. No,

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it just it just looked like squares of meat. You couldn't

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tell. Okay, yeah. Whoo. That's scary. And guys on here that are

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not being spotlighted. Please feel free to put your answers in

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the chat. The ladies want to hear from you as well. Not

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everyone can be spotlighted all only actually lets me spotlight

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for people at a time. So go ahead and put your answers in

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the chat. Okay, but now you're up. What do you like to do for

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I actually really do love meat. And I love coffee. I like

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walking. I like animals a lot. Even though I love meat.

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there. Actually, yeah. Um, yeah, recently started volunteering at

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this this animal shelter in town because I can't have a dog where

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I live. And so like, I'm kind of trying to scratch the itch.

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And it was just seemed like a fun idea. And so I do that. It's

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kind of combining a couple of my favorite things.

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I love that. That's so sweet. Okay, so you can't have a you

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can't have an animal Do any of the rest of you have animals

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just really quickly? Are you cat people? Are you dog people? Or

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you know, animal people at all in the house people?

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animals. I just can't currently but like, okay. Yeah, I mean,

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any anything with for generally, I'm gonna love it. It like I

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like cats fine. I'm not crazy about cats like I am dogs, but

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I'm not against them either. Um, they're honestly just kind of

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gross. Like they're cool. They're interesting. They're

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they're fun. They just Yeah, there's a whole bunch of hygiene

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problems that come with cats. But

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cats are dirty. Y'all. I know ladies that you love cats, but I

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don't care. Fight me. Box and then they walk all over your

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kitchen counters and stuff. Okay, Jonathan, what do you got?

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Yes, I really enjoy cooking, especially in as a team and

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partnership. I'm the meat guy and the sous chef. So if you've

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got some recipes, I can make that happen. I really enjoy

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getting out running walking. I'm an ambassador. So I really enjoy

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breaking bread and building relationships with people. And

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every summer I love to be sailing on my sailboat. I just

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it's such a good time. And also dancing. I love a waltz. I love

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the intimacy of dancing and getting good dance moves going.

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Yeah, that's about it for now.

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Right, people want to know your favorite worship song. Alright,

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so we'll start we'll go this way around. But I what's your

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favorite worship song put you on the spot. Like you guys, a lot of

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worship music nowadays. Modern sounds alike. So you could even

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your favorite song, just in general?

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If I had to pick an all-time favorite,

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it'd probably be, Be Thou My Vision.

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That is a beautiful song.

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who've done a pretty good rendition of it.

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So I had to pick that one.

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Yeah, I'm going to have to Google that one.

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I don't know if I know that one.

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All right, that's cool.

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All right, David does.

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David, what do you got?

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That's a classic.

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That's a good choice right there.

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So I've been in a lot of Jesus Image lately.

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there's a song called You Are Holy,

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which is, I mean, that's gotta be like every praise song.

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But their rendition of it, their rendition of it.

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Don't know about all time,

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but that's the one that's come into mind.

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Love that.

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Matt, Matt used to be a worship leader.

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He is a worship leader, or he used to be.

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So lots of music there.

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I'm getting back into it.

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So I have a couple.

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So one of my all time oldies,

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but goodies is Blessed Assurance.

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That's a great one.

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I know that one.

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You can play very unplugged and low key,

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or have a full on band behind it.

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Has anybody heard of Brandon Lake?

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So my daughters will make me play

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his rendition of Gratitude,

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probably 20 times on a road trip.

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It's like the only song I can do.

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eyes closed, both hands up.

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She goes, I love this song, dad.

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I'm like, so yeah.

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Blessed Assurance and then Gratitude.

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there's anything by Phil Wickham.

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I like that too.

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just because of the kind of classic rock style worship.

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So much of that, but yeah.

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I love that.

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It's awesome.

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Love it.

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Guitar.

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Anything with a guitar, right?

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Some guitar in there.

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All right.

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All right, Jonathan.

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I think it's called Reckless Love.

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It's the overwhelming reckless love of God

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chases me and fights me.

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So I love playing that and singing it.

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It's beautiful on the guitar.

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Love it.

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So good.

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All right.

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Okay.

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So we want to keep going now.

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What's the most beautiful place that you've ever seen,

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that you've ever seen?

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David, we're going to start with you

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and we're going to go around this way.

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So David, the most beautiful place

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you've ever seen before, like in real life,

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not in a picture, that you've ever visited,

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that you've ever seen.

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Man, with these days, Instagram coming into my feed,

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I feel like I've been to so many places,

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but it's like, no, you haven't.

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I think probably,

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man, I did backpacking in Europe years ago.

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So it was just like all that scenery.

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It just seems like Disney, all these castles.

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That was pretty impressive.

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Okay.

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Yeah, that's great.

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Okay.

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Benaiah.

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This is really hard.

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I feel like there's a few places,

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like I guess New Zealand was probably the place

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where all things equal, just anywhere you looked,

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it was pretty and beautiful in some way.

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Costa Rica is like,

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because if you go to the cities in Costa Rica,

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it's still really cool.

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But if you go anywhere out on the beaches of the country,

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it's just unreal.

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So I feel like it's probably between those two places

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and it's kind of difficult to choose

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because they're also pretty different looking.

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Like one's tropical and rainforesty

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and the other one's like all like idyllic pastures

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and sheep and stuff.

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And it's kind of depends on what you're into, yeah.

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Benaiah, you broke up on my end.

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What was the two?

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Is Costa Rica one or the other?

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You broke up on my end.

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What was the two?

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Is Costa Rica and what else?

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New Zealand.

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New Zealand.

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Costa Rica's phenomenal.

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You got, you have,

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I don't know if people have been to New Zealand,

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but a lot of people are like saying amen to Costa Rica.

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So look in the chat there, Benaiah,

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you'll see a lot of, yeah, me too for Costa Rica.

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Yeah, Costa Rica, have you ever been there?

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Like the East, the Pacific coast of it

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and the Caribbean coast are two totally different areas,

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just the sand, the beaches and all that.

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So it's like, it's such a different world

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going to either side of such a small country,

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but it's gorgeous there and it's super cheap.

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So if you want to go there,

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it's like, it doesn't cost a lot.

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Yeah, let's do it.

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You guys, single nation, his Costa Rica, let's go.

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Come on.

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All right, Jonathan, what do you got?

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But Benaiah is going to lead the trip.

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He's going to be the tour guide.

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Here we go.

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You know what?

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Okay, I'm in.

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I'll do it.

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Thanks, where are we going?

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Let's do it.

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I'm not kidding.

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I'm an Enneagram seven.

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I'm all in, let's go.

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All right.

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Go ahead, Jonathan.

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So for me, I have two places,

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Northern Scotland, Inverness area,

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the Emerald green of the region there,

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the grass.

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00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.800
the mountains, the hillsides, it's beautiful.

471
00:25:02.800 --> 00:25:05.220
And then there's a mountain range that divides

472
00:25:05.220 --> 00:25:08.000
in the Northern part of Iraq and the Northern part of Iran

473
00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:09.680
that divides Iran from Iraq.

474
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:10.720
There's a mountain range there

475
00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:12.620
that's just unbelievably beautiful.

476
00:25:13.800 --> 00:25:15.280
Wow.

477
00:25:15.280 --> 00:25:17.560
We're gonna take your word for it there.

478
00:25:17.560 --> 00:25:19.800
We're gonna take your, who wants to go?

479
00:25:19.800 --> 00:25:20.640
You can go.

480
00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:23.640
Who wants to go to Iran or Iraq or Iraq?

481
00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:26.840
Who wants to go to those places with Jonathan?

482
00:25:27.760 --> 00:25:28.600
Who wants to go?

483
00:25:28.600 --> 00:25:29.420
Put it in the chat right now

484
00:25:29.420 --> 00:25:32.140
because that is a prerequisite to winning that man's heart

485
00:25:32.140 --> 00:25:34.300
because his heart is there.

486
00:25:34.300 --> 00:25:36.980
He loves his Muslim brothers and sisters.

487
00:25:36.980 --> 00:25:39.940
God has given him a mission there.

488
00:25:39.940 --> 00:25:43.580
And so got a lot of people like, I'll go.

489
00:25:43.580 --> 00:25:45.700
All right, Matt, where's the most beautiful place?

490
00:25:45.700 --> 00:25:46.660
Did you say yet?

491
00:25:48.460 --> 00:25:51.780
I mean, I would have to say Costa Rica when I went there.

492
00:25:51.780 --> 00:25:55.420
So it's, yeah, I'm in the same, it's the same boat there.

493
00:25:55.420 --> 00:26:00.420
So, and also I've been, I love the Caribbean when I can go.

494
00:26:01.340 --> 00:26:03.500
I mean, some people hate cruises, some love them.

495
00:26:03.500 --> 00:26:05.300
So I can either go destination or cruises

496
00:26:05.300 --> 00:26:07.060
or things like that when you have lots of ports of call.

497
00:26:07.060 --> 00:26:10.080
But St. John, St. Martin, you know,

498
00:26:10.080 --> 00:26:11.580
pretty much all those areas in the Caribbean

499
00:26:11.580 --> 00:26:14.100
are just so gorgeous, clear white beach sand.

500
00:26:14.100 --> 00:26:16.700
You can see six to 10 feet down into the end of the,

501
00:26:16.700 --> 00:26:17.540
through the water.

502
00:26:17.540 --> 00:26:20.180
So anytime I go, I love to go to anywhere

503
00:26:20.180 --> 00:26:22.180
where there's a combination of mountains and beaches

504
00:26:22.180 --> 00:26:23.660
and coves and things like that.

505
00:26:23.660 --> 00:26:24.700
So, yeah.

506
00:26:24.700 --> 00:26:25.820
That sounds incredible.

507
00:26:25.820 --> 00:26:26.740
I love that.

508
00:26:26.740 --> 00:26:28.260
All right, guys, now we're gonna get serious.

509
00:26:28.260 --> 00:26:30.660
Those were kind of the warmup questions, right?

510
00:26:30.660 --> 00:26:32.380
All right, so now we're gonna get,

511
00:26:32.380 --> 00:26:35.960
describe and remember short, brief and powerful,

512
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:40.180
your ideal woman, describe her.

513
00:26:40.180 --> 00:26:43.140
As far as you know, right now, obviously God can,

514
00:26:43.140 --> 00:26:45.020
you know, God can give us the best thing

515
00:26:45.020 --> 00:26:46.340
we never knew we even wanted.

516
00:26:46.340 --> 00:26:48.120
He's really good at that,

517
00:26:48.120 --> 00:26:51.140
but describe some attributes that she has.

518
00:26:51.140 --> 00:26:53.300
Maybe list like two or three attributes

519
00:26:53.940 --> 00:26:58.300
that you know would be a compliment to your life

520
00:26:58.300 --> 00:27:00.340
and something that you're looking for,

521
00:27:00.340 --> 00:27:01.940
you know, in a spirit mate, all right?

522
00:27:01.940 --> 00:27:05.580
And we're gonna go ahead and start with Jonathan

523
00:27:05.580 --> 00:27:07.700
and we'll go back around clockwise.

524
00:27:08.780 --> 00:27:10.980
Well, the first thing that hit me when you said that

525
00:27:10.980 --> 00:27:12.620
was the word courageous.

526
00:27:14.760 --> 00:27:17.420
My ideal person needs to be courageous

527
00:27:17.420 --> 00:27:20.220
and not just courageous with how they engage with the world,

528
00:27:20.260 --> 00:27:23.400
but how they understand themselves,

529
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:25.020
how they know their self

530
00:27:25.020 --> 00:27:27.460
and how vulnerable they're willing to be

531
00:27:27.460 --> 00:27:30.700
and intimate they're willing to be in relationship,

532
00:27:30.700 --> 00:27:33.660
in intimate relationship with me.

533
00:27:33.660 --> 00:27:36.900
So courage is the major requirement for intimacy

534
00:27:36.900 --> 00:27:40.420
and going into the world and doing the work that I do.

535
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:44.420
Right, awesome, yeah, that's good, courageous.

536
00:27:44.420 --> 00:27:45.720
All right, Anaya.

537
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:49.160
I mean, I'm really attracted to authenticity

538
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:54.160
and open-mindedness, a quirky sense of humor is always nice.

539
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:56.400
If you're just willing to laugh at yourself

540
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:59.040
and just laugh a lot, like we're probably gonna get along,

541
00:27:59.040 --> 00:28:02.360
like, you know, just someone who kind of naturally

542
00:28:02.360 --> 00:28:05.520
finds joy in things and is just able to relax

543
00:28:05.520 --> 00:28:07.000
and be comfortable in their own skin.

544
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:10.520
I feel like it really says a lot about someone

545
00:28:10.520 --> 00:28:12.680
and I really appreciate that.

546
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.880
And I second also the courage piece, like Jonathan said,

547
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:20.480
like it's living a purposeful life, it takes courage.

548
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:23.680
You have to take a lot of stands

549
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:27.480
and you have to really like contend for what you feel

550
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.240
God designed you to be and what he designed you to do.

551
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:35.240
And that's also, you know, anyone who is living like that,

552
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:37.720
I really admire that.

553
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:39.920
I mean, I think that's a really good point.

554
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:43.240
Is living like that, you know, I really admire that

555
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:46.880
and I feel like I really connect with people like that.

556
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:48.960
Awesome, yeah, David?

557
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:50.840
David and Matt had a little easier

558
00:28:50.840 --> 00:28:52.760
because they got a little bit more time to think.

559
00:28:52.760 --> 00:28:54.520
So what do you got?

560
00:28:54.520 --> 00:28:56.360
But listening to these two guys, I'm just like,

561
00:28:56.360 --> 00:28:58.640
oh, they took, I'm like, oh, there's, oh, okay.

562
00:28:58.640 --> 00:28:59.480
Yeah, because I-

563
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:00.520
Listen, you're allowed to like this,

564
00:29:00.520 --> 00:29:01.360
you're allowed to-

565
00:29:01.360 --> 00:29:03.080
Going first has advantages.

566
00:29:03.080 --> 00:29:05.280
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I do, you know,

567
00:29:05.280 --> 00:29:09.080
what's been coming on my radar a lot is authenticity.

568
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:13.080
It's true, not because like I personally thought of it,

569
00:29:13.080 --> 00:29:15.080
but I've just heard of it a lot.

570
00:29:15.080 --> 00:29:16.200
I've heard a lot about it.

571
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:19.240
And I think it just makes a lot of sense.

572
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:21.480
It's just where I am, it's just a lot of sense to me.

573
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:23.840
And so I think authenticity,

574
00:29:23.840 --> 00:29:26.000
I don't mean like be up in my face, right?

575
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.640
And, you know, be like, this is who I am, accept me or not.

576
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:31.680
You know, just not exactly, I mean, you know,

577
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:33.440
self-confidence is good, right?

578
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:34.920
Self-confidence is good.

579
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:35.920
Right.

580
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:37.400
But I think what Benah is getting at

581
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.480
that I really resonate with is a sense of

582
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:41.440
there's some kind of self-awareness

583
00:29:44.800 --> 00:29:49.200
and acceptance of who a person is, who they are,

584
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.120
and be willing to be like, courageously accept that.

585
00:29:52.120 --> 00:29:54.680
Courageously be like, this is who I am,

586
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:57.720
and not in an offensive kind of way,

587
00:29:57.720 --> 00:29:59.240
but in a presenting kind of way.

588
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:00.080
So I-

589
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:06.800
agree with that. I think the other thing that's coming to mind is loyal. I mean that's, I don't,

590
00:30:06.800 --> 00:30:11.440
I think that can be something that's, that's, that's kind of more of a product of a couple,

591
00:30:12.080 --> 00:30:18.160
but the loyalty comes to mind. Yeah, good answers. And Matt?

592
00:30:19.520 --> 00:30:26.800
I would say for me, there's a combo of a few, but you know, being, being patient,

593
00:30:27.360 --> 00:30:35.040
um, being selfless, um, being kind. I think all men can, all the men on this panel can speak to

594
00:30:35.040 --> 00:30:43.120
the fact that we deal with a lot of crap in life outside and at work and trying to provide for our

595
00:30:43.120 --> 00:30:48.320
family and stuff. And we just want to come home to peace. You know, we don't want to have to come

596
00:30:48.320 --> 00:30:53.680
home and, and, and have arguments and battles when we get home and, but you can work through that

597
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:57.760
stuff. Nobody's perfect, but to be able to understand that there's a woman that understands

598
00:30:57.760 --> 00:31:04.160
how, that they can rely on you to protect, to provide, to, you know, make them feel at peace.

599
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:10.160
And so, you know, and, and a woman, this is not on the spiritual side, but a woman who's feminine,

600
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:15.760
a woman that's okay being that, a woman that's okay with me being masculine with that. And I

601
00:31:15.760 --> 00:31:22.400
believe in those traditional roles, but at the same time, it's not like a, a subservient versus

602
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:29.440
a dictator. It's, it's, it's, it's not a caveman, Matt. I mean, I can be, I mean, I don't know.

603
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:39.120
We're always supposed to embody what, what the word says that a marriage is supposed to exemplify

604
00:31:39.120 --> 00:31:43.840
the relationship with Christ and the church. So, I mean, that's what I think all the guys

605
00:31:43.840 --> 00:31:49.120
in this panel really want, but just a woman that can be patient too, and understand that,

606
00:31:49.840 --> 00:31:54.800
you know, we're guys, I mean, we, we're very, very simple. We want only a handful of things

607
00:31:55.520 --> 00:32:00.640
and our minds are so compartmentalized. We can just like turn stuff off. So just being

608
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:05.280
patient and understanding that, you know, we want to be there for you and we want to protect and

609
00:32:05.280 --> 00:32:10.560
provide, but having those attributes are extremely important. And, you know, we specialize in that

610
00:32:10.560 --> 00:32:14.880
divine masculine and feminine as part of, you know, that mandate that God has given us to

611
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:19.040
restore marriage and family and restoring our identities. And of course that's going to look

612
00:32:19.040 --> 00:32:23.600
different on everybody, but at the same time, there are some things that are going to be similar.

613
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:30.240
Reminding everyone about Matt, he does have a shared parenting agreement, so he can't relocate.

614
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:36.320
And so Liberty Hill, Austin, Texas, Cedar park, this is where he is until those beautiful little

615
00:32:36.320 --> 00:32:41.280
girls are grown. All right. So let's keep that in mind with the chat there. All right.

616
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:47.920
Let's talk about something difficult. Let's, let's, let's find out some more about, you know,

617
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.560
pressure, you know, grace under pressure type of thing. Can you describe to us,

618
00:32:52.560 --> 00:32:57.040
you know, one of the most difficult things that you've been through and what you learned from it?

619
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:02.560
So just, you know, as men in this generation, there's a lot of difficulties. Everyone suffers,

620
00:33:02.560 --> 00:33:07.440
everyone suffers differently. Talk to us about, you know, something difficult that you experienced,

621
00:33:07.520 --> 00:33:11.200
whether it was a death of a parent or some other type of thing that happened,

622
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:15.040
loss of a job, the loss of a dream, the loss of a marriage, it doesn't matter what it is,

623
00:33:15.040 --> 00:33:19.760
but what you learned from it, maybe what you learned about God in your life from it doesn't

624
00:33:19.760 --> 00:33:24.560
matter, but let's just definitely make sure that we keep the answer short, brief and powerful.

625
00:33:24.560 --> 00:33:31.840
And we're going to start with David for this question. Oh, sorry guys. Let me find out who's

626
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:41.520
unmuted. All right, go ahead. All right. So this is David. I'm pretty social. And for a long time,

627
00:33:41.520 --> 00:33:47.120
I thought I was just a helpful person. And in my twenties and my thirties, I got into mercy ministry,

628
00:33:47.120 --> 00:33:54.880
like helping low income, you know, just people who got into like substance abuse or mental illness,

629
00:33:55.520 --> 00:34:02.480
you know, things like that. And it took a while, but what I had thought was a generous heart,

630
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:12.159
I had found out was mixed with a childhood trauma. So my mother died when I was around seven.

631
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:18.159
And then my father was, of course, you know, totally like devastated. And I remember the day

632
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:25.760
when he picked us up at school, and I saw his face, and that the horror on his face came to me,

633
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:31.199
and I kind of accepted it. And it was either a thought, a memory, a spirit, however you want to

634
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:40.320
call it. And then that ended up feeding my help addiction, if you want to call it like that. I

635
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:44.880
ended up just being super helpful to people, and I didn't know why. And then I realized, oh,

636
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:53.120
every time I see somebody in need, I see dad. Wow. And so I realized that I thought I was a

637
00:34:53.120 --> 00:34:57.120
Sunday school raised kid. So I thought I'm just a nice Christian guy, help the poor, whatever,

638
00:34:57.120 --> 00:34:59.840
you know, this is just good. And I was commended for it. But this

639
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.980
thing was under the surface. And it wasn't until I got to LA and

640
00:35:03.980 --> 00:35:06.620
was doing some projects on like, you know, personal ministry with

641
00:35:06.620 --> 00:35:09.060
Skid Row and this kind of thing that I'm like, this ain't

642
00:35:09.060 --> 00:35:11.100
working. I don't know why it's not working. And then I had some

643
00:35:11.100 --> 00:35:14.260
people come in, the Lord sent some people to kind of open this

644
00:35:14.260 --> 00:35:16.860
up for me, I got counseling, and then like, boom, there it was,

645
00:35:16.860 --> 00:35:21.300
I'm like, Oh, oh, oh, okay, me helping people. This was a daddy

646
00:35:21.300 --> 00:35:26.940
issue. I didn't know that. So the Lord saved me out of that. So

647
00:35:26.940 --> 00:35:32.980
for all you people, pleasers. Go get your healing, you know, go

648
00:35:32.980 --> 00:35:33.460
get your healing.

649
00:35:33.460 --> 00:35:36.060
It's so it's so good. And it's so true. Because you know, I

650
00:35:36.060 --> 00:35:38.740
used to be a social worker. And I had the same thing, David. And

651
00:35:38.740 --> 00:35:41.380
when I work with the homeless, you'll really get busted out of

652
00:35:41.380 --> 00:35:45.940
that quick. Because if you are a giver, a toxic giver, you will

653
00:35:45.940 --> 00:35:49.180
be surrounded by toxic takers. And you can lose your life like

654
00:35:49.180 --> 00:35:52.940
that, you know, just like burnout and over, you know, over,

655
00:35:52.940 --> 00:35:56.120
you know, a gift that's overextended by trauma becomes a

656
00:35:56.120 --> 00:35:58.760
weakness, right? Which is what you're talking about right here.

657
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.640
And that's so good. And so now you have boundaries. That's that

658
00:36:01.640 --> 00:36:04.760
little B word we always talk about, where you help people

659
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.240
when God's telling you to help them and the rest of the people

660
00:36:07.240 --> 00:36:10.400
just God bless. And you know, you know that God has a

661
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:14.400
solution for them, but it's not you. And so love that. That's so

662
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:17.800
good. And it's so ladies, it's so refreshing to hear a man say

663
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:20.200
that they struggle with that, because usually toxic people

664
00:36:20.200 --> 00:36:24.000
pleasing is more of a woman thing. Like I know a lot of

665
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.400
women that are toxic people pleasers, but we don't really

666
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:29.880
think of guys having that. But I know a lot of guys that actually

667
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.800
have, you know, had to overcome that. So David, thanks for

668
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:34.680
sharing that. And so we're gonna go around.

669
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:39.920
We're gonna go on that. For those that kind of what really

670
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:45.360
was a tip off for me was that my power source was not love. It

671
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:52.160
was fear. Oh, yeah. Well, that wasn't any good. Right? Fear of

672
00:36:52.160 --> 00:36:55.280
disappointing people, letting them down. Fear of Yeah, so

673
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.600
good. So good. All right. So we're gonna go around this way

674
00:36:58.600 --> 00:37:08.480
this time. So Matt, you're up. Something hard you went through

675
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:11.320
and what you learned. Matt Miller,

676
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:19.440
you feel and that's, um, basically, I would say it was my

677
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:24.840
my divorce. Because this is, you know, this is, it's tough to

678
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.080
talk about. But I believe in transparency. That's another

679
00:37:27.080 --> 00:37:30.960
thing I didn't mention. But this is not my first divorces too. So

680
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:36.360
I was married when I was 25 to a 19 year old, didn't see a lot

681
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:39.480
of the red flags that I should have seen. And there was

682
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.320
unfaithfulness in that and the entire last year of our six year

683
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:46.400
marriage. And then I was single for for a few years and got back

684
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:52.200
into it. And then it was didn't see anything because it was I

685
00:37:52.200 --> 00:37:55.960
was pretty much conned into it. And then I had three girls and

686
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:59.520
then there was massive infidelity. So I had to work

687
00:37:59.520 --> 00:38:05.120
through a lot of trust. And I had to work through you know,

688
00:38:05.640 --> 00:38:09.320
being literally being insulted in front of my girls by my

689
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:13.120
ex-wife and and the reputation destruction that I've tried to

690
00:38:13.120 --> 00:38:19.520
have to wade through since then. But loving on my ex-wife,

691
00:38:19.560 --> 00:38:23.040
despite not reciprocation. And that's been the toughest thing

692
00:38:23.040 --> 00:38:25.760
that God's taught me is that I've learned very valuable

693
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:31.200
lessons that when we choose to have anger, in situations, it

694
00:38:31.200 --> 00:38:34.480
turns into resentment, and then that can become very toxic,

695
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.720
which can bleed over into other areas of your life. And I found

696
00:38:38.160 --> 00:38:42.120
the Lord really pointed me to love and forgiveness to love my

697
00:38:42.120 --> 00:38:47.000
ex-wife, despite her hatred of me. And it's been amazing,

698
00:38:47.240 --> 00:38:49.640
because even my small little daughters have noticed the

699
00:38:49.640 --> 00:38:53.560
difference about observing mommy always says this about you, but

700
00:38:53.560 --> 00:38:55.520
why don't you ever talk mean about mommy? And I said, well,

701
00:38:55.520 --> 00:38:59.800
that's Christ calls us to love everybody, even if they don't

702
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.000
love you. And that's been one of the biggest things for me is

703
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:08.720
that when I took the high road that God pointed me to, my

704
00:39:08.720 --> 00:39:12.240
daughters have seen that and the way I've reacted to their mom

705
00:39:12.240 --> 00:39:16.480
has been the biggest example to my daughters of how they are

706
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:20.880
supposed to treat those people in their friend groups in soccer

707
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:24.040
at school, when they're mistreated, they literally say

708
00:39:24.040 --> 00:39:28.800
daddy, I treated this person the way that you treat mommy when

709
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:31.720
when she's mad at you. I didn't I didn't get mad at them. I just

710
00:39:31.720 --> 00:39:34.200
told them how it made me feel. And then I ignore them and I

711
00:39:34.200 --> 00:39:38.600
don't let it doesn't bother me. So that was how God took a very

712
00:39:38.640 --> 00:39:42.560
hurtful situation and used it as both a learning experience for

713
00:39:42.560 --> 00:39:46.920
me. And a teachable moment for my daughters, which continue to

714
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:49.600
reap huge benefits in their movement beyond the divorce.

715
00:39:50.200 --> 00:39:52.920
And so important because you do have daughters and if you had a

716
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:56.440
son showing him how to treat women and how to protect women,

717
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.920
even sometimes protecting women from themselves is so important.

718
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.960
at raising daughters as a father and, um, showing them, you know, how you're

719
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.920
treating their mother, that's so important and friends, I want to say

720
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:11.440
something that I think is, you know, I would never just say this like as a

721
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:15.000
Facebook post or an Instagram post, cause it would be a soundbite and

722
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:16.760
it needs further explanation.

723
00:40:17.120 --> 00:40:22.280
But I think that we, we need to take divorce more seriously.

724
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:24.880
I know that we always say we need to take marriage seriously.

725
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:25.160
Sure.

726
00:40:25.160 --> 00:40:26.120
We need to take marriage seriously.

727
00:40:26.120 --> 00:40:27.840
You guys know, I'm a huge advocate of marriage.

728
00:40:28.160 --> 00:40:31.920
Um, obviously I've dedicated my life to the revival of marriage and family, but

729
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:35.600
we need to take divorce more seriously, meaning that a lot more people

730
00:40:35.600 --> 00:40:37.160
should be divorced than are.

731
00:40:38.040 --> 00:40:42.080
There's a lot of people that are trapped in abusive situations and, you

732
00:40:42.080 --> 00:40:45.880
know, and they're getting deeper and deeper trauma, deeper and

733
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:47.480
deeper and deeper trauma.

734
00:40:47.600 --> 00:40:47.920
Okay.

735
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.960
And Ben and I, you understand you're in a helping field like I am.

736
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:55.240
And, you know, I have run into so many students and so many private

737
00:40:55.240 --> 00:40:58.640
clients that stayed year after year, after year, after year, after year,

738
00:40:58.640 --> 00:41:02.280
because of a misunderstanding about what divorce is for and why God

739
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:03.440
gave it in the first place.

740
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:08.600
Um, and you know, and how we can utilize it to remove ourselves from a place

741
00:41:08.600 --> 00:41:13.120
where, you know, some people don't recover from the amount of abuse that

742
00:41:13.120 --> 00:41:18.680
they, that they receive when they're in ongoing traumatic situations, it

743
00:41:18.680 --> 00:41:23.160
takes years and years and years and years to come out of that complex PTSD.

744
00:41:23.560 --> 00:41:26.440
And so I know a lot of you have that story.

745
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:28.800
And so shame off you for divorce.

746
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:32.520
I'm glad that you were finally able that those of you that had situations

747
00:41:32.520 --> 00:41:35.720
like the one that Matt described to be able to come out of it, to go through

748
00:41:35.720 --> 00:41:39.000
a full forgiveness cycle, to release people, to learn from it.

749
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:40.720
Um, it's so important.

750
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:44.760
And, and, you know, I'm, I'm glad that you're free from those situations

751
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:45.880
and on the road of healing.

752
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:46.520
It's so good.

753
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:47.160
All right.

754
00:41:47.160 --> 00:41:47.440
So

755
00:41:48.080 --> 00:41:52.600
in a second, you said Jackie too, is like, you know, I'm, I want

756
00:41:52.600 --> 00:41:56.640
everybody to know is like, just like these other guys, even though I'm 45,

757
00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:58.440
I'm open for more kids.

758
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:02.080
If that was God's has, whether or not they're my bonus kids or depending

759
00:42:02.080 --> 00:42:04.080
because the range is out there.

760
00:42:04.080 --> 00:42:07.720
I don't, I mean, I want to find the right woman, but like, yeah.

761
00:42:07.720 --> 00:42:08.680
Open for more kids.

762
00:42:08.680 --> 00:42:10.280
I always wanted a very large family.

763
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:14.640
So it's like, it's one of those things where I love having my daughters, but

764
00:42:14.640 --> 00:42:18.400
to have someone who does not have a father in, in, in the, uh, in the

765
00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:22.760
picture and be able to help raise up their son by being a God, the example

766
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:26.760
of what a man is supposed to be my girls, I'm using them to know how, what

767
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:28.600
to expect in a man and how to be ladies.

768
00:42:28.600 --> 00:42:29.880
So yeah, that's

769
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:35.040
being able to Matt is open to kinsmen, redeemer role ladies, and then also

770
00:42:35.040 --> 00:42:36.520
open to biological children.

771
00:42:36.560 --> 00:42:38.040
I'm assuming as well.

772
00:42:38.200 --> 00:42:40.400
I'm Jonathan is also open to having more children.

773
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:43.520
He has a, is it a 22 year old biological son, Jonathan?

774
00:42:44.240 --> 00:42:45.560
Yes, 22.

775
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:46.240
Okay.

776
00:42:46.560 --> 00:42:50.000
And then, um, and then Benaiah has never been married, doesn't have any kids.

777
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.720
And so definitely open to biological children.

778
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:56.600
Um, and, uh, and then David as well, never been married, no children,

779
00:42:56.640 --> 00:42:58.600
definitely open to children as well.

780
00:42:58.600 --> 00:42:59.440
So Jonathan, go ahead.

781
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:00.640
Hard.

782
00:43:00.640 --> 00:43:02.120
I mean, the question is we're answering.

783
00:43:02.160 --> 00:43:02.520
Okay.

784
00:43:02.680 --> 00:43:03.480
Hard thing.

785
00:43:04.120 --> 00:43:10.880
Um, uh, so I, so from 2003 to 2018, I was back and forth to Iraq and Afghanistan

786
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:12.920
and participating in armed conflict.

787
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:14.680
Exceptionally difficult.

788
00:43:15.160 --> 00:43:19.480
Um, I have total of three and a half years in Iraq and one year in Afghanistan.

789
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:23.560
Um, lots of loss, uh, experienced during that time.

790
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:28.280
And during those times as well, I experienced, uh, my first divorce and

791
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:31.160
then my second divorce happened as well.

792
00:43:31.680 --> 00:43:37.360
Um, so armed conflict has, has, has, um, created lots of trauma for me.

793
00:43:37.680 --> 00:43:41.040
And not just, not just the conflict itself, but divorce.

794
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:42.960
Um, and then doing mission work.

795
00:43:43.040 --> 00:43:47.760
Um, I had some losses, um, with some friends, uh, overseas as well.

796
00:43:48.240 --> 00:43:50.400
So, but that wasn't the most difficult thing.

797
00:43:51.120 --> 00:43:56.040
Well, the most difficult thing that I experienced was, was my human

798
00:43:56.040 --> 00:44:00.160
reaction to those traumas, which was, um, I began to participate in the use

799
00:44:00.160 --> 00:44:06.200
of alcohol, sex, drugs, and things to numb out the pain, things to just

800
00:44:06.200 --> 00:44:08.520
disappear from the reality of my experience.

801
00:44:09.040 --> 00:44:13.920
And, uh, the hardest part was, was doing the work, um, to work through all

802
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:17.600
that stuff and become, um, um, whole again.

803
00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:22.080
Um, and, and, and the moment in which that happened, uh, you know, I've been

804
00:44:22.080 --> 00:44:25.360
to seven different programs, seven different recovery programs, working

805
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:27.320
on myself, getting fit, losing weight.

806
00:44:27.680 --> 00:44:30.280
You know, I ate my feelings, food.

807
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:31.920
I sexualized my feelings.

808
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:33.400
I alcoholed my feelings.

809
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:38.440
And, uh, what ultimately, um, healed me and saved me is when I finally had a

810
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:42.800
knockdown drag out with God, where I was basically just shaking my fist at him,

811
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.280
cussing at him saying you did me wrong.

812
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:47.840
Yeah.

813
00:44:48.080 --> 00:44:52.200
And, uh, and all I felt back from him was love.

814
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:53.360
Wow.

815
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:54.120
So good.

816
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:56.160
So good.

817
00:44:56.240 --> 00:44:57.120
And look at you now.

818
00:44:57.160 --> 00:44:57.440
Wow.

819
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:58.160
God is so good.

820
00:44:58.160 --> 00:44:59.960
You guys, God is so kind.

821
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.760
You know, and he's not afraid of our, you know, he's not afraid of our distrust or our

822
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:05.760
anger.

823
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:07.680
You know, he's not afraid of those things.

824
00:45:07.680 --> 00:45:09.720
And you know, he's still with us in all of that.

825
00:45:09.720 --> 00:45:10.720
I love that.

826
00:45:10.720 --> 00:45:12.320
I mean, that's a lot of stuff.

827
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:16.680
You know, I have, I have a brother-in-law that did a few different tours in Afghanistan

828
00:45:16.680 --> 00:45:17.680
and Iraq.

829
00:45:17.680 --> 00:45:21.680
And, you know, those guys come back changed, you know, those that see, you know, active

830
00:45:21.680 --> 00:45:26.760
conflict and battle and, you know, he was high up in his company in the Marines and

831
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:29.320
he saw, he lost a lot of friends and a lot of guys.

832
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:30.920
There's a lot.

833
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:36.040
So first of all, we obviously thank you for your service, especially us Americans.

834
00:45:36.040 --> 00:45:41.200
We don't take that lightly, but also seeing, you know, what you've had to work through

835
00:45:41.200 --> 00:45:44.840
to get back, you know, to get back what you lost through those years.

836
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:49.160
And so I think we can all say that we're glad you didn't give up and that obviously God

837
00:45:49.160 --> 00:45:50.400
never gave up on you.

838
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:51.400
So, so good.

839
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:52.400
Thank you.

840
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:53.400
Thank you for your kind words.

841
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:54.400
Yeah.

842
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:55.400
Ben and Aya, you're up.

843
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:57.600
You guys are going to make me cry.

844
00:45:57.600 --> 00:45:59.400
I got some tears ready to go here.

845
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:03.800
First of all, Jackie, I wish we could talk all night about what you said earlier about

846
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:08.280
the divorce issue and just want to give dignity to the people who've been through that.

847
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:09.280
Yeah.

848
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:11.860
Couldn't agree more with what you said.

849
00:46:11.860 --> 00:46:13.960
And thank you guys for sharing everything you've been through.

850
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:17.360
I just really appreciate the grace with which you went through it and the grace with which

851
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:20.480
you just delivered that.

852
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:29.760
I had a logistics company and it was pretty large and it went under.

853
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:34.080
And in the midst of that, there were friendships who were involved in that.

854
00:46:34.080 --> 00:46:37.800
People who I trusted to help me with the business, they were keeping things from me.

855
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:39.880
I found out about them too late.

856
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:44.600
Around the same time, both of my parents were diagnosed with cancer.

857
00:46:44.600 --> 00:46:49.720
And the girl who I was dating at the time, which was the most serious relationship I'd

858
00:46:49.720 --> 00:46:50.720
ever had.

859
00:46:50.720 --> 00:46:55.800
And we were really close, but she ended up breaking up with me too.

860
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.520
And so, you know, when it rains, it pours.

861
00:46:59.520 --> 00:47:05.920
And it was really freaking hard.

862
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:10.560
I think that probably one of the most encouraging things that I saw going through it was just

863
00:47:10.560 --> 00:47:11.560
my reaction to it.

864
00:47:11.560 --> 00:47:17.160
It was a testament to how much work God's done on me over the last several years in

865
00:47:17.160 --> 00:47:19.280
the last few in particular.

866
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:27.800
And that I was even able to navigate all that, stay calm, keep it together, keep moving,

867
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:31.400
handle business, that kind of a thing.

868
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:36.480
And I just had to practice, I just had to continue practicing what I preach.

869
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:42.120
My life message is personal transformation and the importance of the holistic picture

870
00:47:42.120 --> 00:47:43.440
about what it looks like.

871
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:51.040
The fact that we have a human spirit, our human spirit is meant to be in dominion over

872
00:47:51.040 --> 00:47:55.520
our soul and our body and needs to be empowered and nurtured.

873
00:47:55.520 --> 00:47:57.480
Our soul is complex altogether.

874
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:04.000
I mean, we think about 70,000 thoughts a day, probably, and we're driven by our subconscious.

875
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:06.120
And in the midst of all that, we're just driven by all this emotion.

876
00:48:06.120 --> 00:48:09.000
And I had all this emotion, all this stress, and there was just nowhere to go.

877
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:10.640
There was nowhere to run from it.

878
00:48:10.640 --> 00:48:12.960
And so I had to continue to just release stuff.

879
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:17.600
I had to release stuff that was coming up, that was old, that was still in there that

880
00:48:17.600 --> 00:48:19.320
God wanted to heal.

881
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:24.760
There was stuff that was just surface level, that was just continual daily stressors.

882
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:30.000
And that's what you got to do when you're going through something hard.

883
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:35.080
You have to accept that God's trying to teach you things, trying to use a good crisis to

884
00:48:35.080 --> 00:48:40.360
make you stronger, heal you more, teach you more things about him and his faithfulness.

885
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:47.640
And there's been a lot of really good intimacy with God in the seasons of my life where things

886
00:48:47.640 --> 00:48:48.640
were really hard.

887
00:48:48.640 --> 00:48:52.520
And there was a good opportunity to lean in on all that.

888
00:48:52.520 --> 00:48:58.600
And I learned a lot, too, about just areas of weakness, even areas of well-intentioned

889
00:48:58.600 --> 00:48:59.600
weakness.

890
00:48:59.600 --> 00:49:05.280
You have to be balanced when you deal with people.

891
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:13.840
I wish I could talk more about all the business lessons I learned from that failure and the

892
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:18.800
personal lessons I learned and all that stuff.

893
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:24.640
I guess, but just to sum all of it up, at the end of the day, in a weird way, going

894
00:49:24.640 --> 00:49:32.160
through all of that gave me a deeper appreciation both for just how faithful God is and how

895
00:49:32.160 --> 00:49:36.120
much he loves you no matter what you accomplish or not.

896
00:49:36.120 --> 00:49:39.640
He doesn't really care about what you accomplish for him as much as he cares about you being

897
00:49:39.640 --> 00:49:41.720
who he made you to be.

898
00:49:41.720 --> 00:49:46.600
And also just how, in a weird way, even though there was a lot of failure there, I gained

899
00:49:46.600 --> 00:49:53.120
a lot of confidence and groundedness in who I am and my ability to deal with crisis.

900
00:49:53.120 --> 00:49:56.440
So I'll stop there.

901
00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:57.440
Yeah.

902
00:49:57.440 --> 00:49:58.440
So good.

903
00:49:58.440 --> 00:49:59.440
So good, guys.

904
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:00.440
I'll stop there.

905
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.200
I mean, we were going to do some like a game and stuff tonight,

906
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:00.440


907
00:50:02.200 --> 00:50:05.280
but I think we're just going to stay here for Q and A because it's just getting

908
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:05.800
so deep.

909
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:09.240
And I think that most of the women are just blown away to, you know,

910
00:50:09.240 --> 00:50:14.040
see men sharing so vulnerably and, you know, um, regardless of whether or not,

911
00:50:14.080 --> 00:50:18.520
you know, you're their spirit mate, um, just learning to see, you know,

912
00:50:18.520 --> 00:50:22.640
godly good men, um, and how they feel about things, not perfect men,

913
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:24.440
but godly and good men and,

914
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:28.960
and how willing they are to do the work and to show up, um,

915
00:50:29.040 --> 00:50:32.080
and let God make them into their best selves. So that's really important.

916
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:35.360
Jack, I have a quick question for the ladies. Are you, cause I'm,

917
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:40.000
I'm hearing this, like hearing from Jonathan, Vinaya, David, myself.

918
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:44.440
Are you ladies not used to hearing guys be like this vulnerable and this

919
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:48.600
transparent? Because from the chat,

920
00:50:49.080 --> 00:50:52.920
like I appreciate what these guys are doing. And this is,

921
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:56.240
this is how most men, I hope guys correct me if I'm wrong.

922
00:50:56.240 --> 00:50:59.320
This is how most men want to be that are faithful followers of the Lord.

923
00:51:00.200 --> 00:51:01.200
They want to be vulnerable,

924
00:51:01.200 --> 00:51:04.840
but there's a lot of fear with being vulnerable because they're afraid of being

925
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:09.760
judged by their partner or the woman they're with on being vulnerable

926
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:12.440
because the world, these red pill guys talk about,

927
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:14.840
don't be vulnerable with your woman. She'll lose respect for you.

928
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:19.920
But in my perspective, when you have vulnerability as a couple,

929
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:22.480
that's what can galvanize you because your wife,

930
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.320
your partner needs to know how to pray for you, how to support you,

931
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:28.680
how to be there for you. And in the same regard, you need that for her.

932
00:51:29.160 --> 00:51:32.280
That's what galvanizes a relationship to sinful,

933
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:37.240
imperfect people merging together for something that God created

934
00:51:37.680 --> 00:51:38.760
to exemplify Him.

935
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:41.720
Which is why we hold space for that.

936
00:51:41.720 --> 00:51:45.960
And so the ladies are used to seeing guys in our community do that,

937
00:51:46.160 --> 00:51:49.240
but maybe not necessarily in other places in their lives.

938
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.320
And so we definitely hold space for that. And so let's talk about,

939
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:57.000
you were just talking about what it looks like to be married and, you know,

940
00:51:57.000 --> 00:51:58.040
and that, you know,

941
00:51:58.040 --> 00:52:02.280
that coming together and how that's going to benefit both people.

942
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.280
Let's have some fun and talk about what do you like,

943
00:52:06.720 --> 00:52:10.520
what's your dream for you and your future wife? You know,

944
00:52:10.520 --> 00:52:12.360
what do you see yourselves doing together?

945
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:17.000
What are some of your dreams that you would love a woman to partner with you in?

946
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:20.640
And then of course you would partner in things that she felt strongly about as

947
00:52:20.640 --> 00:52:23.000
well. But do you, I mean,

948
00:52:23.040 --> 00:52:26.240
we all spend time thinking about what our future marriage would look like when

949
00:52:26.240 --> 00:52:26.840
we're single.

950
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:30.360
And so can you guys share some of those thoughts with us that you have about

951
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.840
what that might look like? Once again, ladies,

952
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.720
if you don't fit the criteria of that, but you do feel a connection,

953
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:38.160
it doesn't mean that you have to fit the criteria of that.

954
00:52:38.160 --> 00:52:42.960
It's just a fun question to kind of see what these guys are dreaming

955
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:46.080
about as far as marriages for minister ministry,

956
00:52:46.080 --> 00:52:49.960
because we're all ministers of reconciliation. So it's for something right.

957
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:51.600
It's for us to do something together.

958
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:55.600
And so what does that look like as far as you guys know it? And so, David,

959
00:52:55.600 --> 00:52:56.440
we're going to start with you.

960
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:03.640
So there's this really fascinating perspective that was just

961
00:53:03.640 --> 00:53:08.760
introduced recently. So I'm really focusing on this.

962
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:13.440
So I had a, I had a counselor talk to me about how,

963
00:53:13.560 --> 00:53:17.960
how to approach a relationship. Fundamentally that these are friendships,

964
00:53:18.080 --> 00:53:19.800
you know, ultimately, you know, it's,

965
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:23.320
it's being with somebody for a very long period of time and through thick and

966
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:28.280
thin. And the way he came at it that was kind of a new idea to me is,

967
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.920
is David, you know, maybe you have a, maybe me,

968
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:36.000
I have an opportunity to meet somebody and have

969
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:38.520
like no agenda, right?

970
00:53:38.640 --> 00:53:41.800
No agenda other than like kind of discovering the other person for who they

971
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:45.280
are. I don't know if this is idealistic, right?

972
00:53:45.720 --> 00:53:48.400
There's something about kind of the purity of,

973
00:53:48.720 --> 00:53:52.680
of one person and another person and, you know,

974
00:53:53.040 --> 00:53:57.440
try not to change each other, not to change each other the best we can,

975
00:53:57.480 --> 00:53:59.880
you know, within, within about what the Bible teaches,

976
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:05.080
but in a sense kind of we find out about the other person to find out

977
00:54:05.080 --> 00:54:10.000
about me. Cause otherwise, I mean, if I wanted to, I could foist,

978
00:54:10.640 --> 00:54:14.720
you know, expectations, hopes, and dreams upon this other person that might crush

979
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:18.000
them, right? Cause they're like, I don't know about that, you know,

980
00:54:18.040 --> 00:54:22.000
and I could get into all that, but I thought about that.

981
00:54:22.040 --> 00:54:25.480
And so I'm kind of one thinking kind of right now is, is there,

982
00:54:26.080 --> 00:54:30.840
do women think like that or do they, is it also hard for them? Like they have,

983
00:54:31.520 --> 00:54:36.360
you know, wants and desires that might come on me and that, you know,

984
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:40.760
might be kind of difficult to, to, to carry. So I'm,

985
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:44.680
I'm thinking about, you know, it's in this way,

986
00:54:44.680 --> 00:54:45.640
it kind of makes it like,

987
00:54:45.640 --> 00:54:47.960
I don't even know what that's going to look like except a lot of,

988
00:54:48.040 --> 00:54:52.440
a lot of mutual exploration. So that's kind of where I am these days.

989
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:55.400
Yeah. That's fair. All right. Then I already have.

990
00:54:59.160 --> 00:55:00.000
You know,

991
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.000
I feel like as far as what I want to do with my life,

992
00:55:05.300 --> 00:55:08.260
I want to do with my spouse.

993
00:55:08.260 --> 00:55:10.780
Like I want our marriage to be a partnership.

994
00:55:10.780 --> 00:55:13.460
Ideally I would like to be with someone who,

995
00:55:13.460 --> 00:55:15.860
there's maybe some overlap of some kind

996
00:55:15.860 --> 00:55:17.340
between what I do and they,

997
00:55:17.340 --> 00:55:20.260
so that we have that point of intimacy and joy bonding

998
00:55:20.260 --> 00:55:21.620
to talk about what we do together,

999
00:55:21.620 --> 00:55:22.740
maybe even collaborate.

1000
00:55:22.740 --> 00:55:25.380
I think that'd be awesome if we could find that.

1001
00:55:25.380 --> 00:55:26.820
But at the end of the day,

1002
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:32.760
I'm really passionate about trying to legitimize

1003
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:37.640
and advance a lot of the spiritual healing

1004
00:55:37.640 --> 00:55:40.900
and spiritual dynamics, that spiritual health piece,

1005
00:55:40.900 --> 00:55:44.000
and get really specific with it,

1006
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:46.120
find more about the principles about how things work,

1007
00:55:46.120 --> 00:55:49.520
why things, why some people seem like their lives work

1008
00:55:49.520 --> 00:55:50.720
and why some people don't.

1009
00:55:50.720 --> 00:55:52.440
And when we've exhausted everything

1010
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:56.560
and we've tried everything that we know to try,

1011
00:55:56.580 --> 00:55:57.980
there's still these people who are stuck

1012
00:55:57.980 --> 00:55:59.080
and they're playing their hearts out.

1013
00:55:59.080 --> 00:56:01.780
And those are the people that I really want to help.

1014
00:56:01.780 --> 00:56:04.460
And that's a large part about,

1015
00:56:04.460 --> 00:56:06.980
that's a large component of what I want to do with my life.

1016
00:56:06.980 --> 00:56:10.620
And I would love to have a spouse who feels the same,

1017
00:56:10.620 --> 00:56:11.780
feels as passionate about that,

1018
00:56:11.780 --> 00:56:14.260
feels as passionate about trying to figure out

1019
00:56:14.260 --> 00:56:16.140
individual design and essence as I do.

1020
00:56:16.140 --> 00:56:18.420
I love the personality dynamic stuff

1021
00:56:18.420 --> 00:56:20.960
and trying to figure out what mold everybody is,

1022
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:23.440
because I just firmly believe that,

1023
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:24.780
like that's just so important

1024
00:56:24.780 --> 00:56:27.240
in connecting with God individually.

1025
00:56:28.600 --> 00:56:30.400
So I hope I'm answering this question.

1026
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:32.080
No, yeah, no, you are.

1027
00:56:32.080 --> 00:56:33.400
The way I heard it was like,

1028
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:34.960
yeah, what do you want to do with your life,

1029
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:35.800
with your spouse?

1030
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:40.280
And I just feel like I want to do kingdom work

1031
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:42.480
with my spouse and that specific kind of kingdom work.

1032
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:45.320
And then I just want to be able to like raise kids together

1033
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:46.760
and have a lot of fun together

1034
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:49.400
and like be able to like come home

1035
00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:53.880
and have a family that has a good, vibrant, spiritual life.

1036
00:56:53.900 --> 00:56:55.220
Because I feel like, and that's another thing,

1037
00:56:55.220 --> 00:56:59.700
is like our spiritual walks have been,

1038
00:56:59.700 --> 00:57:02.820
we've been taught to center them around church

1039
00:57:02.820 --> 00:57:04.540
and around an external institutional thing.

1040
00:57:04.540 --> 00:57:05.900
But I really think at the end of the day,

1041
00:57:05.900 --> 00:57:09.500
like it's the spiritual life is supposed to come

1042
00:57:09.500 --> 00:57:11.940
from the family more than that.

1043
00:57:11.940 --> 00:57:13.780
And I think that life is supposed to flow

1044
00:57:13.780 --> 00:57:15.580
to those things from the family.

1045
00:57:15.580 --> 00:57:19.020
And so develop, I don't claim to be an expert on it,

1046
00:57:19.020 --> 00:57:22.940
but I want a spouse who wants to collaborate, experiment,

1047
00:57:22.940 --> 00:57:24.320
what might that look like,

1048
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:27.120
and really develops like a cool lifestyle together

1049
00:57:27.120 --> 00:57:32.120
in that respect that could form a family.

1050
00:57:33.720 --> 00:57:36.000
The kingdom, you guys, it's a family model.

1051
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:38.200
So the kingdom is definitely a family model.

1052
00:57:38.200 --> 00:57:39.440
So love that answer.

1053
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:43.040
And you guys, I know we've gotten serious here

1054
00:57:43.040 --> 00:57:44.160
and we're doing serious stuff.

1055
00:57:44.160 --> 00:57:46.400
We're going to do a little this and that

1056
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:49.360
to end our Q&A tonight after Jonathan and Matt.

1057
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:51.200
So guys get ready because you're going to have choices,

1058
00:57:51.200 --> 00:57:53.460
this or that here in just a few minutes.

1059
00:57:53.460 --> 00:57:58.340
Jonathan, what's kind of your dream for marriage?

1060
00:57:58.340 --> 00:58:00.460
Why get married if we don't like,

1061
00:58:00.460 --> 00:58:01.920
if it's not a two-person assignment,

1062
00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:03.500
we don't need a helpmate, right?

1063
00:58:03.500 --> 00:58:04.980
And so the desire to get married,

1064
00:58:04.980 --> 00:58:06.540
what does it look like for you?

1065
00:58:07.460 --> 00:58:12.380
Well, the word adventure and journey comes up for me.

1066
00:58:12.380 --> 00:58:14.140
And I think it's an adventure and a journey

1067
00:58:14.140 --> 00:58:15.940
for two to become one flesh.

1068
00:58:15.940 --> 00:58:20.940
So it's the journey of discovering each other emotionally,

1069
00:58:21.220 --> 00:58:24.700
discovering each other spiritually, psychologically,

1070
00:58:24.700 --> 00:58:26.740
discovering each other sexually.

1071
00:58:27.600 --> 00:58:29.780
And then the adventure part of it.

1072
00:58:29.780 --> 00:58:31.020
What are the practical things

1073
00:58:31.020 --> 00:58:33.340
that we're going to do with our life?

1074
00:58:33.340 --> 00:58:37.700
Right now, I spend winters in Florida.

1075
00:58:37.700 --> 00:58:41.260
I spend summers on my sailboat in the Puget Sound.

1076
00:58:41.260 --> 00:58:43.500
I travel all over the place.

1077
00:58:43.500 --> 00:58:45.740
And so if you're an adventurous person,

1078
00:58:45.740 --> 00:58:48.860
you like to travel, that might be interesting.

1079
00:58:48.860 --> 00:58:50.980
But if you want to have children and nest

1080
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:53.560
and have a home base or several home bases,

1081
00:58:53.560 --> 00:58:56.840
that might be something that works out pretty good as well.

1082
00:58:56.840 --> 00:58:59.060
The key is for me,

1083
00:59:01.080 --> 00:59:02.920
somebody who's courageous enough to share

1084
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:05.360
who they really are with me

1085
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:09.640
and let me show grace and mercy in that space.

1086
00:59:09.640 --> 00:59:12.520
And I expect the same thing in return.

1087
00:59:12.520 --> 00:59:13.960
So let's become one flesh.

1088
00:59:15.640 --> 00:59:16.600
Love it, y'all.

1089
00:59:16.600 --> 00:59:17.560
Okay, listen, ladies,

1090
00:59:17.560 --> 00:59:19.160
I'm gonna lay down some ground rules here

1091
00:59:19.220 --> 00:59:21.500
because we are a community

1092
00:59:21.500 --> 00:59:24.020
and we are a community of honor, okay?

1093
00:59:24.020 --> 00:59:25.740
And in order to be a community of honor,

1094
00:59:25.740 --> 00:59:27.700
we don't do dating app kind of stuff here,

1095
00:59:27.700 --> 00:59:31.100
meaning we don't reach out and talk to people

1096
00:59:31.100 --> 00:59:33.740
and then people ghost you or they don't talk back to you

1097
00:59:33.740 --> 00:59:36.500
because you're not what they're looking for.

1098
00:59:36.500 --> 00:59:39.500
All of these men, I have relationship

1099
00:59:39.500 --> 00:59:42.700
as someone who is helping matchmake them

1100
00:59:42.700 --> 00:59:44.780
and bringing them into community

1101
00:59:44.780 --> 00:59:47.340
and know some of the criteria

1102
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:49.520
that they're looking for in the match

1103
00:59:49.520 --> 00:59:50.760
that they're looking for.

1104
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.120
Brought them on here because it adds value to our community

1105
00:59:54.120 --> 00:59:56.680
for us to hear from men and good men and godly men.

1106
00:59:56.680 --> 00:59:58.240
So you know they exist.

1107
00:59:58.240 --> 01:00:00.680
And you guys, there's so many more of them besides.

1108
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:01.560
is these that are right here tonight.

1109
01:00:01.560 --> 01:00:02.600
There's so many more of them.

1110
01:00:02.600 --> 01:00:04.360
Of course, you guys know your brothers

1111
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:06.800
that are in the men's mentorship group

1112
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:08.160
that come a lot, come to prayer,

1113
01:00:08.160 --> 01:00:09.680
come to other co-ed stuff.

1114
01:00:09.680 --> 01:00:11.840
These are guys all outside of that group

1115
01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:13.280
that are guys that I'm working with

1116
01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:17.280
and spotlighting and trying to match up.

1117
01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:22.280
And so come through us if you want to meet one of them.

1118
01:00:22.780 --> 01:00:24.720
If you're already friends with them on Facebook,

1119
01:00:24.720 --> 01:00:26.640
that's great, but none of these four men

1120
01:00:26.640 --> 01:00:29.400
need a barrage of hundreds of friend requests

1121
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:31.480
that they then have to sift through

1122
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:36.480
and figure out who, without offending anyone

1123
01:00:37.240 --> 01:00:39.360
or without hurting their feelings.

1124
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:41.240
Because remember, this is a singles group

1125
01:00:41.240 --> 01:00:42.600
and it's a marriage-minded singles group.

1126
01:00:42.600 --> 01:00:43.560
So if you're reaching out,

1127
01:00:43.560 --> 01:00:46.640
then it's obviously for mostly romantic reasons, right?

1128
01:00:46.640 --> 01:00:51.440
And so let's try to sift through that together.

1129
01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:54.320
Jonathan, Jonathan obviously has never been here before

1130
01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:56.080
because he put his phone number up in the chat.

1131
01:00:56.080 --> 01:00:59.600
I'm like, sir, that's probably not the best idea.

1132
01:00:59.600 --> 01:01:00.920
Probably don't want to do that.

1133
01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:02.440
Don't blow up my phone.

1134
01:01:04.200 --> 01:01:07.080
I'm like, sir, wait a minute.

1135
01:01:07.080 --> 01:01:10.120
Too late, you just got 85 DMs, Jonathan.

1136
01:01:10.120 --> 01:01:11.280
Light them up.

1137
01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:13.360
Don't be mad if I don't get right back.

1138
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:15.280
Light them up, teach them a lesson.

1139
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:18.320
But ladies, I want you to look at them realistically,

1140
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:20.720
okay, about what you have in common with them.

1141
01:01:20.720 --> 01:01:22.400
You know, what connection that you have?

1142
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:24.360
Are you, do you carry attributes

1143
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:26.640
that they're looking for, you know, in a wife?

1144
01:01:26.640 --> 01:01:28.520
Remember, there's no scarcity mindset.

1145
01:01:28.520 --> 01:01:30.520
There's more where these guys came from.

1146
01:01:30.520 --> 01:01:33.640
And not only look at that realistically, okay,

1147
01:01:33.640 --> 01:01:35.440
and spiritually as well,

1148
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.160
but also if you know someone

1149
01:01:37.160 --> 01:01:39.280
who's not part of our community,

1150
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:40.640
a woman who's a friend of yours,

1151
01:01:40.640 --> 01:01:42.960
maybe she's your best friend, maybe she's your cousin,

1152
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:45.880
and you know, and she keeps coming to your mind

1153
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:47.560
while you're hearing these men talk,

1154
01:01:47.560 --> 01:01:50.520
please send us an email and tell us about her.

1155
01:01:50.520 --> 01:01:53.720
Because remember what you help make happen for someone else,

1156
01:01:53.720 --> 01:01:56.480
what God can make happen for you, right?

1157
01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:57.960
And so it's not just about us,

1158
01:01:57.960 --> 01:01:59.440
it's also about, you know,

1159
01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:01.640
paving the way for other people to have connections.

1160
01:02:01.640 --> 01:02:03.040
And so that's super important.

1161
01:02:03.040 --> 01:02:04.800
All right, so last but not least, Matt,

1162
01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:06.800
and I love that Jonathan went there.

1163
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:07.960
He's like, you know, I want to,

1164
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:10.920
we want to explore all these areas of life of my wife,

1165
01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:12.240
including sexually.

1166
01:02:12.240 --> 01:02:14.200
Y'all, we all want to have sex.

1167
01:02:14.200 --> 01:02:16.040
I was just getting ready to say that.

1168
01:02:16.040 --> 01:02:18.280
It's not, it's all right.

1169
01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:19.840
You're allowed that, you're allowed.

1170
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:23.200
So you guys see, men want more than one thing.

1171
01:02:23.720 --> 01:02:24.560
They named all kinds of other things,

1172
01:02:24.560 --> 01:02:26.480
but they still want sex and that's all right,

1173
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:28.040
because they're supposed to, right?

1174
01:02:28.040 --> 01:02:29.840
Because ladies are always like, men just want sex.

1175
01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:31.640
No, they want all these other things too,

1176
01:02:31.640 --> 01:02:32.720
but they still want sex.

1177
01:02:32.720 --> 01:02:33.960
All right, Matt, go ahead.

1178
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:35.920
Yeah, I'm glad Jonathan broke the ice with that,

1179
01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:37.320
because I was going to say it if he didn't.

1180
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:38.160
So.

1181
01:02:38.160 --> 01:02:39.000
There you go, come on.

1182
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:43.480
I'm with Jonathan at being with somebody

1183
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:45.360
that you're equally yoked with.

1184
01:02:46.720 --> 01:02:48.800
The side of me that doesn't have to do

1185
01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:50.240
with being spiritual is like,

1186
01:02:50.240 --> 01:02:52.160
if anybody wants to homestead eventually

1187
01:02:52.160 --> 01:02:55.680
and have chickens and goats and stuff like that,

1188
01:02:55.680 --> 01:02:56.680
I'm going that route.

1189
01:02:56.680 --> 01:02:57.800
So my girls want to.

1190
01:02:57.800 --> 01:02:59.480
So that's a part of just kind of,

1191
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:02.880
I used to garden with my parents

1192
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:04.280
and they taught me how to do all that stuff.

1193
01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:06.760
So kind of like not being off the grid,

1194
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:09.880
but having some self-sustaining stuff and being like that.

1195
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:12.560
But then when it comes to my marriage,

1196
01:03:12.560 --> 01:03:17.560
it's just having someone that I can just love on.

1197
01:03:19.160 --> 01:03:22.000
My love languages are physical touch

1198
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:24.400
and quality time.

1199
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:26.760
So I love having that time.

1200
01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:30.520
I also am someone that likes to do the little small,

1201
01:03:30.520 --> 01:03:31.720
not grandiose gifts.

1202
01:03:31.720 --> 01:03:33.160
I mean, there's time and place for that,

1203
01:03:33.160 --> 01:03:36.120
but just the small things like bringing flowers

1204
01:03:36.120 --> 01:03:38.800
or bringing lunch or doing a special date at home

1205
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:39.640
or doing something.

1206
01:03:39.640 --> 01:03:41.040
It's like little small stuff like that.

1207
01:03:41.040 --> 01:03:44.240
I just want to have someone that I can love on.

1208
01:03:44.240 --> 01:03:45.760
But at the same time, like Jonathan said,

1209
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:49.280
I also want somebody that I can relate to both emotionally

1210
01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:50.880
and yes, physically.

1211
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:53.160
I want somebody that I can have a lot of sex with.

1212
01:03:53.160 --> 01:03:54.000
I'm sorry.

1213
01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:56.760
It's like, I want somebody that I can connect so much with

1214
01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:58.760
that it's more than just that.

1215
01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:02.840
It's something that's just a part of what our marriage is.

1216
01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:04.040
It's just a natural part of it.

1217
01:04:04.040 --> 01:04:06.200
And sex shouldn't be a faux pas thing.

1218
01:04:06.200 --> 01:04:09.720
It should be something that God created it to glorify him

1219
01:04:09.720 --> 01:04:12.080
and to have those two meet as one.

1220
01:04:12.080 --> 01:04:16.000
But yeah, and then also someone that can be,

1221
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:19.720
it's a big responsibility to take on being

1222
01:04:19.720 --> 01:04:21.600
that bonus parent, being that step-mom,

1223
01:04:21.600 --> 01:04:25.920
but somebody that unfortunately, not talking badly,

1224
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:28.440
but their mother's not the best example

1225
01:04:28.440 --> 01:04:29.640
with some of her behavior now,

1226
01:04:29.640 --> 01:04:31.840
but just not someone that replaces her

1227
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:33.400
because they love their mama,

1228
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:36.080
but someone that can be yoked with their dad

1229
01:04:36.080 --> 01:04:37.600
that they can see truly loves them

1230
01:04:37.600 --> 01:04:39.760
and can set a really godly example

1231
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:42.760
of what it means to be a woman who loves Jesus.

1232
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.040
So they can see that exemplification of Christ.

1233
01:04:45.040 --> 01:04:46.440
So it's not a bad thing.

1234
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:47.840
Yeah, good stuff.

1235
01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:51.200
Guys, sex is only an issue in,

1236
01:04:51.200 --> 01:04:52.840
it's only an issue, obviously,

1237
01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:55.280
when you take it outside of covenant.

1238
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:56.760
It's not common, it's holy,

1239
01:04:56.760 --> 01:04:59.320
and you wanna make sure that you're participating in it

1240
01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:00.160
within a-

1241
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.240
holy place, which is covenant.

1242
01:05:02.240 --> 01:05:07.200
God didn't, he didn't make that rule to kill your buzz.

1243
01:05:07.200 --> 01:05:10.520
He made that rule because he loves you

1244
01:05:10.520 --> 01:05:11.720
and wants to keep you safe.

1245
01:05:11.720 --> 01:05:15.600
And so sexual attraction is only a problem

1246
01:05:15.600 --> 01:05:17.080
if that's all there is.

1247
01:05:17.080 --> 01:05:18.640
Sexual attraction is only a problem

1248
01:05:18.640 --> 01:05:20.160
when you let your body lead

1249
01:05:20.160 --> 01:05:23.360
and you don't let your spirit lead and your soul lead.

1250
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:25.560
Right, your body should be getting on board

1251
01:05:25.560 --> 01:05:26.960
with the attraction as well,

1252
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:29.760
but it doesn't need to be the first thing that's on board.

1253
01:05:30.160 --> 01:05:32.520
It never needs to be the first thing that's on board.

1254
01:05:32.520 --> 01:05:35.640
When you have a visceral, physical attraction,

1255
01:05:35.640 --> 01:05:38.200
but there isn't anything else to sustain it,

1256
01:05:38.200 --> 01:05:40.520
it's just, it's not gonna be a good situation.

1257
01:05:40.520 --> 01:05:41.840
All right, it really isn't.

1258
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:43.600
So we're gonna have some fun with some this and that.

1259
01:05:43.600 --> 01:05:44.560
Guys, this is how it works.

1260
01:05:44.560 --> 01:05:46.440
I just say two things like popcorn.

1261
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:48.040
This is a popcorn round, okay?

1262
01:05:48.040 --> 01:05:50.520
This is a speed round, y'all, all right?

1263
01:05:50.520 --> 01:05:53.120
And all you're gonna do is just say one or the other.

1264
01:05:53.120 --> 01:05:54.840
And some of them you might not have a preference

1265
01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:56.720
for either one, but just pick one anyway.

1266
01:05:56.720 --> 01:05:58.880
Just humor us, all right?

1267
01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:00.600
Just humor us.

1268
01:06:00.600 --> 01:06:02.520
All right, okay, ready?

1269
01:06:02.520 --> 01:06:03.360
Popcorn round.

1270
01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:05.080
So we're gonna go ahead and just go clockwise

1271
01:06:05.080 --> 01:06:06.680
the entire time and keep going clockwise.

1272
01:06:06.680 --> 01:06:10.320
So it's Jonathan, Vinaya, David, and Matt.

1273
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:12.680
And so, all right?

1274
01:06:12.680 --> 01:06:13.520
Okay, ready?

1275
01:06:13.520 --> 01:06:15.760
Starting with Jonathan, hunting or fishing?

1276
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:16.600
Fishing.

1277
01:06:17.680 --> 01:06:18.520
Hunting.

1278
01:06:20.520 --> 01:06:21.360
Hunting.

1279
01:06:23.080 --> 01:06:23.920
Fishing.

1280
01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:25.360
Okay, fishing, all right.

1281
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:27.520
Beach or woods?

1282
01:06:27.520 --> 01:06:28.360
Woods.

1283
01:06:29.680 --> 01:06:30.520
Woods.

1284
01:06:33.680 --> 01:06:34.800
Depends on the time of year.

1285
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:38.720
I mean, beach in the spring and summer

1286
01:06:38.720 --> 01:06:40.320
and woods in the fall and winter.

1287
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:41.360
No, it's not fair.

1288
01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:43.400
Beach or woods, which do you like better?

1289
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:46.520
The woods.

1290
01:06:46.520 --> 01:06:47.360
Okay.

1291
01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:50.560
All right, water or land?

1292
01:06:51.560 --> 01:06:52.560
Water.

1293
01:06:52.560 --> 01:06:53.400
Land.

1294
01:06:54.400 --> 01:06:55.560
Land.

1295
01:06:55.560 --> 01:06:57.120
Land.

1296
01:06:57.120 --> 01:07:00.480
Okay, all right, city or nature?

1297
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:02.920
City.

1298
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:04.400
Nature.

1299
01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:05.640
Nature.

1300
01:07:05.640 --> 01:07:06.480
City.

1301
01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:11.520
Bookstore or museum?

1302
01:07:11.520 --> 01:07:13.120
Museum.

1303
01:07:13.120 --> 01:07:14.800
Bookstore.

1304
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:15.640
Museum.

1305
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:17.760
Museum.

1306
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:21.760
All right, cooking or baking?

1307
01:07:22.160 --> 01:07:23.240
Cooking.

1308
01:07:23.240 --> 01:07:24.080
Cooking.

1309
01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:26.160
Grilling.

1310
01:07:26.160 --> 01:07:27.000
Cooking.

1311
01:07:28.160 --> 01:07:29.000
Cooking.

1312
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:32.880
All right, going out or staying in?

1313
01:07:35.120 --> 01:07:36.600
Going out.

1314
01:07:36.600 --> 01:07:38.000
Staying in.

1315
01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:38.920
Staying in.

1316
01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:40.760
Going out.

1317
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:44.080
Sunset or sunrise?

1318
01:07:46.160 --> 01:07:47.720
Sunset.

1319
01:07:47.720 --> 01:07:48.920
Sunset.

1320
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:49.760
Sunset.

1321
01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:51.600
Sunset.

1322
01:07:54.160 --> 01:07:55.760
This is kind of like going out and staying in,

1323
01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:56.920
but not quite.

1324
01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:58.040
So when it comes to movies,

1325
01:07:58.040 --> 01:08:00.800
do you prefer Netflix or cinema?

1326
01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:06.200
Cozy on the couch, Netflix.

1327
01:08:06.200 --> 01:08:07.120
Big O.

1328
01:08:07.120 --> 01:08:07.960
Yes.

1329
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:08.800
Netflix.

1330
01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:09.760
Just got to say it.

1331
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:11.440
Netflix.

1332
01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:13.640
Guys, there's no chill in this.

1333
01:08:13.640 --> 01:08:15.640
You guys, there's no Netflix and chill.

1334
01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:17.399
Just know it's just Netflix.

1335
01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:18.240
Just straight up.

1336
01:08:18.240 --> 01:08:19.840
All right, just making sure.

1337
01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:20.680
All right.

1338
01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:23.000
You took it there, not us.

1339
01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:25.160
Holding hands or hugs?

1340
01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:27.600
Oof.

1341
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:28.439
That's tough.

1342
01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:31.200
Jonathan literally went.

1343
01:08:31.200 --> 01:08:33.760
That hurts to choose between those.

1344
01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:34.600
I don't want to.

1345
01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:37.399
Can you be more specific of the situation?

1346
01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:38.960
Holding hands or hugs?

1347
01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:39.800
Like what?

1348
01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:40.640
Hugs, I'll just say it.

1349
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:41.479
Hugs.

1350
01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:42.319
Hug, hug, hug.

1351
01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:43.160
Hugs.

1352
01:08:43.160 --> 01:08:44.000
Hugs.

1353
01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:44.960
I'm a good hugger.

1354
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:46.279
Okay, and then we'll take it,

1355
01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:47.479
we'll just take it up a notch.

1356
01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:49.399
Kisses or hugs?

1357
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:50.240
Kisses.

1358
01:08:50.240 --> 01:08:51.680
Kisses, come on.

1359
01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:52.680
Kisses.

1360
01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:54.560
Jeez, that's easy.

1361
01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:56.120
I figured, but it's on the list.

1362
01:08:56.120 --> 01:08:57.319
So it's just like, whatever.

1363
01:08:57.319 --> 01:08:58.160
You know?

1364
01:08:58.160 --> 01:09:00.479
The chat is blowing up right now.

1365
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:01.319
Coffee?

1366
01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:03.319
Coffee or ice cream?

1367
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:04.279
Coffee.

1368
01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:05.359
Coffee.

1369
01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:06.560
Coffee.

1370
01:09:06.560 --> 01:09:08.240
Coffee.

1371
01:09:08.240 --> 01:09:09.399
Everyone chose coffee.

1372
01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:11.359
Okay, all right.

1373
01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:13.720
So surprises or no?

1374
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:17.279
Do you like surprises?

1375
01:09:18.240 --> 01:09:19.080
Yes.

1376
01:09:19.080 --> 01:09:19.920
Sure.

1377
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:21.600
Yes.

1378
01:09:22.520 --> 01:09:23.359
All right.

1379
01:09:25.160 --> 01:09:27.120
Okay, I think I already know the answer to this,

1380
01:09:27.120 --> 01:09:28.319
but dogs or cats?

1381
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:30.800
Dogs.

1382
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:31.760
Dogs.

1383
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:32.600
Dogs.

1384
01:09:34.240 --> 01:09:35.080
All right.

1385
01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:38.000
I'll go with cats.

1386
01:09:39.160 --> 01:09:40.000
Okay.

1387
01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:45.279
All right, planes or road trips?

1388
01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:48.439
Road trips.

1389
01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:51.800
Planes.

1390
01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:54.720
You're not being specific.

1391
01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:56.920
It's the distance that matters.

1392
01:09:56.920 --> 01:09:59.640
No, I just do, if you're going to go on a trip,

1393
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:00.480
do you want to?

1394
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:04.640
fly you know do you want to you know do you prefer to go places you can only get to by plane or do

1395
01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:13.360
you like a road trip i mean i'd say road trip for now i mean yeah i can go either one so road trip

1396
01:10:14.320 --> 01:10:23.760
it's a solid choice planes planes i knew that david okay so guys how romantic are you what do

1397
01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:28.800
you think is the most romantic thing that you've ever done or would do like are you a love letter

1398
01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:35.920
writer are you old-fashioned do you open car doors we want to know it's valentine's tomorrow

1399
01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:41.600
we want to know are you the kind of guy that would just buy the regular flowers and chocolates or are

1400
01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:45.680
you the kind of guy that would leave rose petal trails all around the house with a post-it note

1401
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:56.320
scavenger hunt like we want to know we want to know okay i'd say who's starting you can start

1402
01:10:56.320 --> 01:11:00.880
i wrote i've the most romantic thing i've ever done is like writing a song for someone

1403
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:08.400
oh there we go same yeah but the the the rose petals the hidden notes around the house but

1404
01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:14.320
i like valentine's day but i don't because i try to i want to do that stuff regularly so i don't

1405
01:11:14.320 --> 01:11:19.040
like to i don't like to pinpoint towards oh it's just valentine's day so it's a pretty i get my

1406
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:23.600
my daughter you have to stop i'm not going to be able to handle how many women are going to

1407
01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:29.760
write in about you it's going to be too much i'm sorry put your phone number in the chat man no

1408
01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:38.480
matt don't do it i mean i mean for me for me like i like dates i like to do to do dates where i i

1409
01:11:38.480 --> 01:11:44.880
like going out but i prefer to stay in so if it's like you know me doing setting up the living room

1410
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:49.840
for watching a movie and then you know making making dinner or ordering dinner in and having

1411
01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:55.440
it ready when she gets there and say nope you're not doing anything just relax sometimes doing that

1412
01:11:55.440 --> 01:12:00.720
stuff and and because of the personal touch and i am a carpenter by trade so i give good

1413
01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:06.160
massage as well so that kind of stuff just like being a very we like a massage but what can you

1414
01:12:06.160 --> 01:12:10.880
build for us you just said you're a carpenter women like men to build things you're gonna build

1415
01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:17.440
us a chicken coop what are you gonna do chicken coops admins built-in wall section there we go

1416
01:12:18.240 --> 01:12:20.960
farmhouse tables things like that what are you going to do

1417
01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:26.480
organize your closet organize your closet jonathan and david you better jump in here

1418
01:12:26.480 --> 01:12:31.920
what's some romanticism but so ben and i said that benaiah said that he um wrote a song but

1419
01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:35.600
what else what else is in your heart that you would like to do romantically do you have anything

1420
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:41.680
else you want to share yes i i love to sing and play my guitar so writing a song is easy

1421
01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:47.200
um i like sitting by the campfire doing that um i like the horse and buggy deal when it's

1422
01:12:47.200 --> 01:12:53.680
cold out maybe a little drizzly and we put blankets over us um i like the uh i like the

1423
01:12:53.680 --> 01:13:01.440
rom-coms even the corny ones um i like cooking together what are we waiting on hold on y'all

1424
01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:06.880
we got somebody he's waiting on something because they're not muted

1425
01:13:07.360 --> 01:13:15.360
who's not muted we know all your personal business all right and my hope is my hope is

1426
01:13:15.360 --> 01:13:19.600
that my woman will share with me what speaks to her heart and we can make that happen too

1427
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:26.240
absolutely yeah yeah yeah but you guys i will tell you women do like to kind of show you like

1428
01:13:26.240 --> 01:13:32.560
what they like but they also like to be surprised they do no pressure all right so david what do you

1429
01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:43.760
got oh boy these guys keep on saying solid things so yeah uh i i i like to i do like to write you

1430
01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:51.440
know i do like to write so writing notes running uh kind of my heart is uh something that's that

1431
01:13:52.640 --> 01:13:58.960
you know i enjoy doing um i i have picked up the guitar so i'm like budding in that area

1432
01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:05.200
and um i tell people that i'm like a dangerous karaoke singer because i like my voice but you

1433
01:14:05.200 --> 01:14:11.200
know we've all seen that contestant on american idol who likes their voice it could be good like

1434
01:14:11.200 --> 01:14:16.400
dedicate a song on karaoke to her and like put her name in it like sarah smile off sarah smile

1435
01:14:16.400 --> 01:14:21.440
by like holla notes you could like sing their name instead that's like carla smile like you

1436
01:14:21.440 --> 01:14:27.840
could do that that'd be great what else you got that's right so um i think i like to keep things

1437
01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:37.600
fun uh i i can i can i think uh get to a sensitive place um uh with somebody but i i've got this

1438
01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:43.360
strong streak of trying to keep things real and not not like not to like hallmark my life

1439
01:14:44.240 --> 01:14:49.520
uh but you know i i i can go there i i can i can get there i can get there with the right person

1440
01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:56.640
okay yeah no and you know what that's okay um you know not all women are super romantic either

1441
01:14:56.640 --> 01:14:59.760
like as far as you know they they they're more

1442
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.740
practical minded, like romance is great.

1443
01:15:02.740 --> 01:15:05.960
But like Matt said, it's not about just one day of the year.

1444
01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:07.960
It's about really showing someone that you love them

1445
01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:10.120
and you care about them, that you honor them.

1446
01:15:10.120 --> 01:15:12.120
My husband's an access service guy.

1447
01:15:12.120 --> 01:15:14.240
And so like keeping my gas tank filled up,

1448
01:15:14.240 --> 01:15:16.200
I hate pumping gas.

1449
01:15:16.200 --> 01:15:18.840
You know, that's just such a sweet, kind thing, right?

1450
01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:21.660
And, you know, thinking of me, bringing me things,

1451
01:15:21.660 --> 01:15:23.560
being thought of you guys is really important,

1452
01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:24.720
like on an everyday basis.

1453
01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:27.820
And then of course there's the big birthdays and holidays

1454
01:15:27.860 --> 01:15:30.340
and Valentine's day and different things.

1455
01:15:30.340 --> 01:15:34.380
But those everyday love, like love, you know,

1456
01:15:34.380 --> 01:15:36.100
things are the most important things

1457
01:15:36.100 --> 01:15:38.000
in a relationship for sure.

1458
01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:41.600
All right, so what we're gonna do now is if you,

1459
01:15:44.540 --> 01:15:46.020
I don't think I'm gonna do that actually.

1460
01:15:46.020 --> 01:15:47.620
So we're about out of time.

1461
01:15:47.620 --> 01:15:48.860
So this is really fun tonight.

1462
01:15:48.860 --> 01:15:49.980
You guys, we're gonna do more of it.

1463
01:15:49.980 --> 01:15:51.580
I think I'm gonna have some more of those curated

1464
01:15:51.580 --> 01:15:53.700
Post-it Notes events as well,

1465
01:15:53.700 --> 01:15:55.980
where we kind of put people in groups, smaller groups,

1466
01:15:55.980 --> 01:15:57.420
where they can get to know each other better

1467
01:15:57.980 --> 01:15:59.900
based on things that they have in common.

1468
01:15:59.900 --> 01:16:01.180
Guys, when it comes to matchmaking,

1469
01:16:01.180 --> 01:16:03.540
let me just tell you a few things real quick.

1470
01:16:03.540 --> 01:16:06.160
You can't ever predict chemistry.

1471
01:16:06.160 --> 01:16:08.500
You know, obviously there's a supernatural element

1472
01:16:08.500 --> 01:16:10.220
to the kind of matchmaking that I do.

1473
01:16:10.220 --> 01:16:12.260
So if God highlights someone to me

1474
01:16:12.260 --> 01:16:13.940
and highlights someone that they should meet,

1475
01:16:13.940 --> 01:16:15.500
then I just go ahead and do it,

1476
01:16:15.500 --> 01:16:17.620
regardless of whether it makes sense.

1477
01:16:17.620 --> 01:16:19.700
A lot of times it doesn't make sense on paper.

1478
01:16:19.700 --> 01:16:21.620
And I might be like, ah, you know,

1479
01:16:21.620 --> 01:16:23.100
because you can take some, you know,

1480
01:16:23.100 --> 01:16:24.660
a list of attributes about someone,

1481
01:16:24.660 --> 01:16:27.340
their age and where they live and all their hobbies

1482
01:16:28.100 --> 01:16:29.820
and things, and you can try to match it that way.

1483
01:16:29.820 --> 01:16:32.980
But oftentimes God's matches don't look like that.

1484
01:16:32.980 --> 01:16:35.340
They look like something that's unseen,

1485
01:16:35.340 --> 01:16:36.580
that only God can see.

1486
01:16:36.580 --> 01:16:38.860
And then he's putting those people together.

1487
01:16:38.860 --> 01:16:41.580
And then the chemistry that happens as a result of that

1488
01:16:41.580 --> 01:16:43.780
is a God kind of chemistry.

1489
01:16:43.780 --> 01:16:45.700
You know, my husband and I were next door neighbors.

1490
01:16:45.700 --> 01:16:47.340
God put us in proximity.

1491
01:16:47.340 --> 01:16:48.700
We didn't really have a lot in common,

1492
01:16:48.700 --> 01:16:50.460
but he put us in proximity.

1493
01:16:50.460 --> 01:16:53.380
And, you know, and then there was a lot of chemistry there,

1494
01:16:53.380 --> 01:16:57.220
supernaturally, and a lot of camaraderie and, you know,

1495
01:16:58.060 --> 01:17:00.140
friendship and just enjoying each other's personalities

1496
01:17:00.140 --> 01:17:01.380
and enjoying each other.

1497
01:17:01.380 --> 01:17:05.300
And so that is something you guys need to know

1498
01:17:05.300 --> 01:17:06.740
about matchmaking.

1499
01:17:06.740 --> 01:17:09.420
So just because these guys expressed things

1500
01:17:09.420 --> 01:17:10.900
that you're like, hey, that's true of me too.

1501
01:17:10.900 --> 01:17:12.140
I lost my parents.

1502
01:17:12.140 --> 01:17:13.340
Benaiah, you never told us

1503
01:17:13.340 --> 01:17:15.140
if your parents passed away or not.

1504
01:17:16.620 --> 01:17:19.380
No, well, no, they're still here.

1505
01:17:19.380 --> 01:17:20.220
Praise God.

1506
01:17:20.220 --> 01:17:25.220
Yeah, and actually my mom had another surgery today

1507
01:17:25.260 --> 01:17:27.700
and I think it went pretty well.

1508
01:17:27.700 --> 01:17:31.380
So yeah, I appreciate you asking.

1509
01:17:31.380 --> 01:17:33.580
Yeah, yeah.

1510
01:17:33.580 --> 01:17:37.620
So yeah, as someone who's lost their mother

1511
01:17:37.620 --> 01:17:39.940
to cancer specifically.

1512
01:17:39.940 --> 01:17:41.540
So yeah, so praise God for that.

1513
01:17:41.540 --> 01:17:44.020
And we just declare that your mom will continue to heal

1514
01:17:44.020 --> 01:17:46.780
and that your parents will continue to live long lives

1515
01:17:46.780 --> 01:17:49.820
and glorify the Lord and get to see you married

1516
01:17:49.820 --> 01:17:52.140
and have children and all the fun things.

1517
01:17:52.140 --> 01:17:54.860
And so just because you have something in common

1518
01:17:55.500 --> 01:17:57.340
with these gentlemen doesn't necessarily make you a match.

1519
01:17:57.340 --> 01:17:59.620
And so I want you to leave this place

1520
01:17:59.620 --> 01:18:02.820
and I want you to pray about whether or not

1521
01:18:02.820 --> 01:18:05.180
you should kind of put your hat in the ring

1522
01:18:05.180 --> 01:18:07.180
to meet one of these guys.

1523
01:18:07.180 --> 01:18:09.260
Remember, we have no scarcity in here

1524
01:18:09.260 --> 01:18:10.980
and also pray about whether or not

1525
01:18:10.980 --> 01:18:12.580
you should introduce them to someone else

1526
01:18:12.580 --> 01:18:14.540
that you know that may be here tonight.

1527
01:18:14.540 --> 01:18:17.140
Maybe it's someone in our group that's not here

1528
01:18:17.140 --> 01:18:20.460
or maybe it's just someone that you know in your life

1529
01:18:20.460 --> 01:18:23.580
that while they were talking, you realized that,

1530
01:18:23.580 --> 01:18:26.420
hey, I keep thinking about this person a lot

1531
01:18:26.420 --> 01:18:29.260
and maybe that means that I should really

1532
01:18:29.260 --> 01:18:31.100
try to make an introduction here.

1533
01:18:31.100 --> 01:18:32.780
Because you guys, community-based matchmaking

1534
01:18:32.780 --> 01:18:34.060
is what we're all about here

1535
01:18:34.060 --> 01:18:35.700
and we're seeing lots of it happening

1536
01:18:35.700 --> 01:18:38.860
and I believe that God wants to do a lot of it in 2024.

1537
01:18:38.860 --> 01:18:42.580
And so it's about us not just being about ourselves

1538
01:18:42.580 --> 01:18:46.260
but also being about what is God speaking and saying to us

1539
01:18:46.260 --> 01:18:50.860
and how can we participate in helping God make matches.

1540
01:18:50.860 --> 01:18:52.260
All right, all right.

1541
01:18:52.260 --> 01:18:53.980
So we had so much fun tonight.

1542
01:18:53.980 --> 01:18:55.100
We wanted to thank you guys.

1543
01:18:55.100 --> 01:18:57.900
Jonathan, Mania, Matt, David, thanks for coming.

1544
01:18:57.900 --> 01:18:59.580
All the other guys that are on here.

1545
01:18:59.580 --> 01:19:01.260
Scott's new to our community.

1546
01:19:01.260 --> 01:19:03.420
Scott, we're so glad that you're here with us.

1547
01:19:03.420 --> 01:19:05.500
We'll have you spotlighted the next time.

1548
01:19:05.500 --> 01:19:07.740
The ladies that are a little bit older,

1549
01:19:07.740 --> 01:19:11.460
you guys are in that upper Gen X

1550
01:19:11.460 --> 01:19:13.700
to the baby boomer generation.

1551
01:19:13.700 --> 01:19:15.460
You're like, hey, where are the guys our age?

1552
01:19:15.460 --> 01:19:18.540
Next time, we'll have four guys in that age range.

1553
01:19:18.540 --> 01:19:20.580
All of these guys are in their 40s and 30s

1554
01:19:20.580 --> 01:19:23.540
but we'll go ahead and have all the guys next time

1555
01:19:23.540 --> 01:19:27.220
be in their early 50s and up.

1556
01:19:27.220 --> 01:19:28.340
For all of you ladies that are like,

1557
01:19:28.340 --> 01:19:31.940
hey, Jackie, I'm not a cougar.

1558
01:19:31.940 --> 01:19:34.900
I wanna come in here but that's not what I'm trying to do.

1559
01:19:34.900 --> 01:19:38.780
All right, so we will definitely have that next time.

1560
01:19:38.780 --> 01:19:42.660
So if you want to learn more about any of these guys,

1561
01:19:42.660 --> 01:19:44.620
any of them, don't go try to troll them

1562
01:19:44.620 --> 01:19:45.820
and find them on Facebook

1563
01:19:45.820 --> 01:19:47.700
unless you're already connected to them.

1564
01:19:47.700 --> 01:19:49.300
Several of them are in single nation.

1565
01:19:49.340 --> 01:19:52.460
I know that Benaiah is in single nation millennials.

1566
01:19:52.460 --> 01:19:54.780
Jonathan's in single nation.

1567
01:19:54.780 --> 01:19:57.220
David, I don't know if you are in that group or not.

1568
01:19:57.220 --> 01:19:59.580
Matt, I don't think that maybe you're there yet.

1569
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.240
I'm on no social media at all.

1570
01:20:02.680 --> 01:20:03.240
Oh, that's right.

1571
01:20:03.240 --> 01:20:03.520
Okay.

1572
01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:06.060
No social media.

1573
01:20:06.060 --> 01:20:08.880
So you have to come to us to find that.

1574
01:20:09.480 --> 01:20:10.000
All right.

1575
01:20:10.240 --> 01:20:14.480
And so, and listen, if we tell you when you come to us, Hey, you know, I don't

1576
01:20:14.480 --> 01:20:16.760
think that's going to be a match, then you're not going to get offended by it.

1577
01:20:17.480 --> 01:20:17.920
All right.

1578
01:20:18.200 --> 01:20:20.960
But once again, we don't do it by what's on paper.

1579
01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:23.320
We do it by, you know, what God is saying.

1580
01:20:23.640 --> 01:20:27.560
And then based on the profiles, the guys have given us, um, for

1581
01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:28.960
what it is that they want to meet.

1582
01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:32.400
And ladies, um, we will have a panel of you as well.

1583
01:20:32.440 --> 01:20:36.640
So men can come and hear you guys talk and, and see what you guys, um, have

1584
01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:38.400
to say about all this stuff as well.

1585
01:20:38.520 --> 01:20:40.440
So if you guys had fun, yeah.

1586
01:20:41.280 --> 01:20:42.720
Thank you for creating safety.

1587
01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:43.200
Love you.

1588
01:20:43.200 --> 01:20:43.600
Yes.

1589
01:20:44.400 --> 01:20:45.160
You're welcome.

1590
01:20:45.480 --> 01:20:45.920
All right.

1591
01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:49.440
So I hope you guys had fun tonight and we'll go ahead and bless you

1592
01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:50.600
and we'll see you soon.

1593
01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:51.280
Bye everyone.