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Okay, well, excellent.

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So we'd like to kick it off for this month's Inner Circle.

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Again, this is, you know, we set aside two hours

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and it's broken into three segments.

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The first segment is we will,

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the first segment is as we go through this,

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we're going to be looking very carefully

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at a very specific leadership topic for you.

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The second segment is much more of a,

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sorry, just letting, making sure everyone's coming in there.

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There's the other one.

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And what we're doing in the second segment

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is we are looking at doing some laser coaching,

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hot seats and so forth.

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Hey Glenn, welcome.

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And then, you know, we're going to be looking

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at the third section, which is how do we take

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all the edge training that we did

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and how do we build the team from that?

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But this is your view of it.

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How do you use it?

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And now that it's all automated

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and you have it all on the app.

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So a couple of quick things,

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couple of quick announcements just to catch you up.

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We've been very, very busy here in the background

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putting together various versions of this program.

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I think to, before when we got it to sort of,

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when we did it last year, we did it,

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I threw this in as an extra just to help those

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who were on the edge at the time.

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And then we met monthly and then at the end of the year,

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we decided to make a program out of it

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and we called it the Inner Circle.

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Well, subsequent to that, you know,

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we've been looking at creating affinity groups

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around Inner Circle.

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Like for instance, Inner Circle for real estate,

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Inner Circle where you can get to specific people.

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Right now we're looking at real estate

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and we're doing one for minors only

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as in those people who mine,

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not those people who are under age.

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So just for clarity.

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So we're looking at doing an Inner Circle

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for specific affiliate groups.

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So if that's something that appeals to you,

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that's a partnership program I put together

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that I'm doing with other people.

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And Glenn's on the call here

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because he and I are working on

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the Enterprise Edition of the Edge.

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Hopefully we're working on building this

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for big corporations.

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So what occurred to us in our own learning

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is that the passion here is to be able

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to change the way we lead.

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If our leadership was life-giving

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and the people who come to and work for us,

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you know, experience a much higher degree of life

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and they experience a place where they're celebrated,

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where their contributions matter,

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where we give meaning to their jobs.

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When we do that, I think there's so few people

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in the world who enjoy that,

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you know, who have that, who have access to that.

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So that will set us apart.

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And as part of this learning,

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it also occurred to us,

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and this is the big announcement

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I mentioned to you on the email,

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is that we wanna make this group a kingdom group.

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Because now with the different circle,

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I don't have to keep everything, you know, covert.

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We can now make this an overt kingdom discussion.

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And I'm excited about that because, you know,

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there are different feeders to this program

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that we can use.

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And what we're looking for in this session

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is so we can speak openly.

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I really wanted us to have a discussion

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around what is our kingdom advantage as leaders.

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So let me just go through a couple of housekeeping things

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and then we'll jump right into it.

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Any questions so far?

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Remember, this is a discussion, not a presentation.

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It's not a webinar.

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So jump in, this is your meeting, enjoy it.

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But just before we get going,

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I'd love Todd or Tamara to just introduce yourselves.

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I think most people know you,

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but just give us a little of, you know,

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who you are, what you do.

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And then we'll give everybody a quick opportunity

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just to introduce themselves.

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Thank you.

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I'll start and then hand it off to Tamara.

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We're Todd and Tamara with Destiny 508.

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And we help ministries and churches

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get their tax exempt status with an alternative tax code

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other than 501C3.

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It is 508C1A for faith-based organizations.

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Tamara.

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I know, we're big fans.

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Yes.

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You set up brilliant church for us.

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So yeah, well done.

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It was good, thank you.

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So I'm Tamara Ingwall, my handsome husband there.

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But we also have, as part of that,

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we do a very robust training for people

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who are just getting into being a nonprofit

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and starting a church or starting their ministry.

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So we have a huge training program

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and about almost 500 people that we mentor.

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and helping them grow their ministries and be compliant and all that kind of good stuff.

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So we love loving on our people and that's what we get to do.

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Yeah, and we live in Texas have an office in Washington State and our larger ministry

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parent organization Divine Alliance International is there to equip leaders

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who are expanding the kingdom of God in the marketplace ministry and missions.

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So that's what we do.

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Oh great.

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Well, I hope you'll you guys particularly will enjoy this is your place where you

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get to receive and enjoy and and you know, I think these inner circles are set

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up so that we can enjoy an open conversation at a certain level and that's why

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I was excited to be able to make this an overtly Kingdom group and so very

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exciting Glenn.

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Do you want to jump in just introduce yourself to the group who you are and

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what you're doing?

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, and hello everyone.

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As Dylan mentioned Dylan and I will actually I'll preface if I said you and

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I actually go quite for quite a way back.

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We've we originally met in in when we were in the military together and have

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had the privilege of working together in building businesses.

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Ministries and and so on my career has largely been in in the corporate space

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consulting and I was with PricewaterhouseCoopers PwC until I retired just

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in January and at this point in time, I'm working with Dion to see how we can

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take the Edge program and actually translate that to what I believe is a

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massive opportunity in a need which is these large, you know Enterprise

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organizations that really struggle with I believe a lot of the issues that the

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Edge can address and in particular, I think what's really exciting to me is

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the kingdom dimension of this.

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So as you mentioned, there's an overt and a covert in talking to the Enterprise

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that would be, you know, a little bit more covert, but I'm really super

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excited as well on the overt side in terms of really having these type of

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conversations of you know, a Kingdom Advantage and how we as believers can

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really be pursuing what the Lord has for us.

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Thank you.

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Thanks, Glenn.

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Appreciate it.

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Yeah, so translating this to different organizations also by having different

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elements that we're interested in in our particular inner circle, but I love

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this particular group because we all know each other and we've all been

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together for a while and we have some traction and history together and so we

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can just click it up a notch and take it to where it needs to go.

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So yeah, as part of this is yeah, we do meet the first Wednesday 1 p.m.

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Eastern every month when I first told you I said we'll do it for 10 months.

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We're just going to do it every month because people are joining at different

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times and trying to administrate which which month they do and don't get as

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complicated just be generous and give it to them.

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So we're just going to do it every month.

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So if you can't make it, you know, you do have the app.

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So if you go to my edge dot group, that's the web version.

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I believe within this month.

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We should get the iOS version Bruce.

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Is that right iOS and Android versions?

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And and so but the chat the chat group has also been added in there.

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So if you're looking for the bot if you want access to all the training we did

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on the edge and all these sessions what we're going to do is I'm going to make

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a unique bot just for this inner circle meaning we're going to bring all the

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kingdom stuff into this.

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So when you ask it, hopefully it gives a somewhat intelligent answer.

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Sometimes the bots is some really dumb things.

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It's a piece of software, you know trying to be smart.

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So but it says it very boldly and confidently like a five-year-old who

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doesn't know anything, you know, sometimes it does that.

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So there you go, you know use your own discretion.

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that you can access the information super quick.

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one of the 40 sessions that we did on the edge.

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So all that that edge training we did all 40 sessions.

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We shoved that through an AI put a created transcripts and then fed the

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transcripts into the bot.

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Actually, it's all set up to run automatically as we finish these calls.

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They automatically go in they automatically get transcribed.

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They automatically get pushed to the bot.

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So as we keep talking the bot should catch up over time.

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So I hope that's useful to you.

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If you want a quick reference and you want to know what's where.

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Also, we took the 40 sessions and divided them into nine modules so that it's

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more manageable.

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every month when we get together,

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we're going to talk about one of the modules.

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we're gonna go back to module one this week,

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but each module's got four talks in it.

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So they're on the app, your team can watch it.

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I, and I would really, again, best practice,

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one of the best practices I've ever done

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moving into a new business is setting up weekly training.

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Whether it's half an hour, an hour, absolutely do this.

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And the reason is the, yeah,

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so the Edge training then is all in the,

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it's all in the app,

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and your whole team can get access to that app.

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So there's two groups in the,

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when you go to the app, there are two groups.

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One is in a circle that only you see,

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and the other one is Edge training, which is for everyone.

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So if you go to myedge.group, you should be in there.

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If not, let us know.

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If you need anybody, if you need help,

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just email me directly

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in the absence of Dion not being available.

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So just Dion at I-49 group.

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Bridget can drop that in the link.

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I'm sure you all have it.

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So, excellent.

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In the kingdom of Apple.

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I was just reading the comments.

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Great.

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So good.

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Are we all ready to go?

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So when we do this laser coaching,

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when we do this session two,

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if you have something ahead of time,

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or you want to make sure we get to it,

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you're very welcome to go on the app.

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There's a section called community, and there's questions.

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Put them in there,

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and then I'll review that before the next meeting,

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and we'll just make sure you're up for the hot seat stuff.

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So if you want to say,

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hey, I'd really love the whole group's input on this.

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I'm really struggling with this.

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I'm struggling with that.

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You know, we've done hot seats before,

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but we want to do it every single month.

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We want to get down to solving real problems together.

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Okay, so, and then the last point is,

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you know, part of these 12 meetings,

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two of them will be in person,

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one on the West Coast, one on the East Coast.

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The one on the East Coast is going to be great

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because it's going to be at the Atlanta Motorsport Parkway,

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This is designed for complete beginners.

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It's one of the most challenging tracks,

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and they've got instructors, but they also have go-karts.

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and just go out and have a lot of fun and hang out.

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That'll be here in Atlanta.

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Yes, Robin, go for it.

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The bot that you were talking about,

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if we go to,

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if we want to access that,

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is that where it says what's on your mind

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and you put your question in there?

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You can go to the replay.

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It's in there.

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as an actual connection in the app.

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I just dropped, it's there too.

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If you want to just go directly there.

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All right, I see it.

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I see the bot.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So you can just go to the bot

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and it will do all things, the edge.

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So we'll just use the web version

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we are trying to improve it every month.

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So the objectives for today are threefold.

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One, we want to talk today

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about light and effective leadership,

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your big kingdom advantage.

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Number two, we'll do some laser coaching.

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Number three, we'll get into the edge program for your team.

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Most of it will be on this first part.

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What I'm excited about being able to do

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is to be able to talk kingdom advantage.

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And the, you know,

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there must be some advantage to our leadership.

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You know, when I was running,

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when I was running Catalyst,

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I loved it, you know, in 2018,

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many of you heard me say this,

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we did, you know, I can't remember a lot of events,

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about 17 events and trained over 70,000 leaders.

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And they were Christian leaders.

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I would say about 30, 40% were business leaders.

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And we brought all these leaders in and authors

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and they presented and the leaders were amazing.

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I mean, leadership is a grace gift.

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If you look at the gifts, the father gives,

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the gift Jesus gives,

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and the gifts the Holy Spirit gives,

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the Holy Spirit, we know the nine gifts

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the Holy Spirit gives.

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you know, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists.

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that the father gives, leadership, you know, mercy, administration, and so on. Each one has a gateway

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gift. In the grace gifts, it's leadership. Leadership gift opens up the way for all the

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other gifts. Of the fivefold, it's the prophet. The prophet opens up because the first generation

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prophet calls the next generation apostle, prophet, pastor, teacher, and then of course on the on the

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nine gifts of the spirit is speaking in tongues because it's the only one that's completely at

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your will. You can just speak in tongues. The rest you have to, you know, receive the gift.

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That's the one you get to turn on and off and get to practice. Paul said, I speak in tongues more

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than you all. So, you know, but love is the big thing. All right, so let's go back to that doesn't

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mean don't speak in tongues if you love. I love the way that gets preached sometimes. Okay, you

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just need to be loving. Forget the tongues. And I go, no, no, tongues is key. It's a power gift.

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Don't forget it. So, here's the deal with the kind of leadership. So, then I noticed sitting

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at Catalyst, the leadership was helpful. Downstairs leadership is a helpful thing.

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You know, Proverbs says, wisdom calls aloud in the streets. So, wisdom is wisdom. Doesn't matter

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where it comes from, right? And so, we can learn from anyone. We can learn from the world. We can

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learn leadership. But what's the upstairs leadership? And of course, is why we launch

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Brilliant Leadership or now the Brilliant School of Leadership to really focus heavily on this. But

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this conversation with you, I would like to take to a whole different level.

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I would like to talk about, at some point, how your kingdom leadership feels to you.

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How that affects you personally, where you live as a kingdom leader. And so,

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I'm going to read a well-known scripture, if you've been around Brilliant any length of time,

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you know, there are a couple of scriptures we really spend time on. People say, you do know

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there's more than four scriptures in the Bible through this course, right? And here's the reason

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why. At first, we hear a scripture, we know about the scripture. Then we start to learn what it means

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and then we become it. So, the question is, if you hear a verse and you say, I've become that,

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that's good. And then you're probably becoming more and more of that. So, Matthew 11, 28 to 30

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is where we want to pick our landing point. So, Jesus said this. Now, think of this purely in

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leadership. I'm going to apply this totally to your leadership. Come to me, all you are weary

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and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle

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and humble in heart and you will find rest for your souls. My yoke is easy and my burden is light.

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This is a really fun scripture because from a kingdom viewpoint, from a leadership viewpoint,

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let's translate some of those words into more leadership words without changing the meaning.

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Weary and burdened. Can I change that to stressed or anxious, right? Okay,

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leadership word for yoke. When God puts his arm around you, when he yokes with you,

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we could call that partnership, right? Would that be all right? So, what if we change yoke

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to partnership? When he says, learn from me, he's not just saying learn spiritual things,

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he's learned everything you need for your life and for your business. Would everybody agree to that

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description? Yeah. Now, the word easy there in the Greek is literally the word Christos,

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and it's where we get the English word Christian from, where we get our, so the derivative, it means

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it means pleasant and helpful. The word literally translated from the Greek, and there's a lot of

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variants of that word, but fundamentally it means comfortable, pleasant, enjoyable, but massively

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effective. So, I'm going to change easy to effective and pleasant, and then burden is what he

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actually wants you to carry. Most of us carry the weight of the outcomes of our business, right?

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We feel the weight. I got to do payroll end of the month. We feel the weight of a new initiative. We

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feel and carry the weight, and the Lord is saying, that's what I want to exchange for the one I want

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you to be carrying. So, we need to be taking a second say, so what is it we should be carrying?

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So, let me take those five words and rewrite the Kingdom Leadership Edition, and it would sound

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something like this. Come to me, all you are stressed and anxious, and I will give you rest.

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Take my partnership on you, and learn everything you need for your life and for your business

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directly from me. I'm gentle and humble in heart.

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you will find rest for your souls for my partnership is effective and pleasant

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and you carry only what i want you to carry and that is light

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now right away we can say yep not my leadership maybe days i have that

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but that's not what the lord's offering us what's on offer from jesus here and this is a verse

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that we have taught so much on in the last three years at brilliant that i'm thinking okay i know

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that well i might know about that i might even be learning but have i become that can i truly say

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that there's a lightness and an effectiveness that comes from my leadership am i leading from

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a place that's light and massively effective because i my confidence is 100 based in who

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the lord is so my question to you is

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what jesus is offering what's available to you personally this light and massively effective

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leadership that's so confident in his partnership that we find rest for our souls what does a

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restful leader a calm restful leader that's functioning at that lightness what is that

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like for your team to be around you firstly what is life for you

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what is that like for you what would what would change for you if if that were if that were your

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permanent state of being if there if the lightness of being that came from that type of partnership

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with the lord is so established in you you know um how would that how would that what would that

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change for you anybody want to jump in maybe you've experienced some of it anybody experienced

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some of it say i've had i've had days yeah i've had my days yeah go ben i think we catch glimpses

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of it right i mean i i would love to spend more time in that place um it's peaceful it's effective

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it's uh it's fun it's lots of fun and and i'm generally fun to be around when i'm in that

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so yeah i would rather spend more time in that place yeah yeah and jesus is offering it so that's

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cool interests are aligned if i can add something like one of the things i think i struggle with

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is i don't sound like a person from rest when i'm trying to communicate or hold people accountable

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you know like i'm trying to let them wear the jacket of pain or make sure they get it if that

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makes sense and i think that yeah that doesn't make me i don't i don't how do you hold someone

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accountable and practice rest at the same time yeah well you're raising a big issue there that's

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a great question yeah somebody else was going to comment yeah i was going to say that's that kind

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of hit the nail on the head for me because you know i can do pretty my so just to kind of back

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up just a tad abiding is really the key for me and how to sum that up versus the visitation

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you know the visitational versus the habitational you know with the spirit and just walking in that

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whenever i whenever i take on the the response the ultimate responsibility that's when i put that

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weight on and it's just and i'm burdened and i'm stressed out and i have all this pressure

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but as soon as i put it back and i'm like no lord you know i'm just your steward i'm just you're the

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ceo you know um you know it all really boils down to trust you know am i trusting in him to do

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everything and he's carrying the weight or am i my is this all by my doing and obviously the reality

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is it's all him and so the pressure he gets as well and he his shoulders are big enough to to

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carry it when and um i'm you know it really weighs heavy on me at times and i and then i take it out

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on a lot of times my family it just bleeds over and i'm just you know i'm just so wound up and

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stressed out and you know i i go overboard in my disciplining and i just sometimes i just take it

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out on them and it's and then i feel horrible and i'm just in this kind of spiral because i'm just

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so mad at myself i get angry that i'm dealing with things in this way and then i just finally

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have to go to the lord and just reset start over apologize to everybody and then uh and repent

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But to what we were just talking about there, what was it?

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What was it?

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Oh, the jacket of shame thing and all that.

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That's kind of a big one for me, because I feel like I

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want to represent this peace and calm and all this kind of stuff.

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and I want them to understand the gravity of the situation,

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you know what I mean, of certain things.

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We can't neglect certain things.

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And there's consequences and repercussions

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if we don't manage things properly.

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And I'm trying to really get that through to them.

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And sometimes it doesn't come across as easy and light

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and all that kind of stuff, you know what I mean,

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because I'm trying to just get them to get the picture.

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But in the meantime, I'm sounding like worrisome and overly,

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I don't know, I just.

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you got the same root challenge that you're bringing up, right?

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And so how do you decouple the downstairs stuff

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that you have to deal with, with the upstairs peace and lightness?

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Let me have Robin and then Tamara weigh in.

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Yeah, I had two examples.

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Maybe we can talk about some of these in the hot seat sections.

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But I know I was in a deposition last week regarding,

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I don't know if you guys are aware of the Nelson's situation

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that it's a park.

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And I thought in my mind that I had turned this over to God.

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I said, God, if you want to give it away, fine, it's all yours.

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If you want to give it to me, that's fine.

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Whatever you want to do is fine.

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Then in that deposition, there were some accusations,

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some lies and things like that.

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And all of a sudden for three nights, I can't sleep, you know,

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because I thought I had given it away.

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And then my relationship with money

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apparently isn't where I thought it was.

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So that was one example.

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where my heart's at.

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But anyway, and I was anxious and was what was going.

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And what I was thinking was I'm hearing, you know, the economy

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and all the things that are going on in the world.

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And I was thinking, well, maybe I need to buy that 20 acres

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in Virginia up on that mountain.

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I need to get a bunker up there and put to you.

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I mean, these are thoughts that are going through my mind at two o'clock

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And it's and it was because of this anxiousness and fear

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of what I see happening around in our nation and in the world right now.

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So I just I think it was Billy Graham wrote a book, Peace with God.

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I just want to have peace.

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let the peace of Christ rule in your heart.

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And I just kind of jump on that scripture and and rebuke the devil.

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And that's kind of the way I handle it.

483
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But I thought it was somewhere when I'm, you know, upstairs.

484
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But really, I was really working from the downstairs.

485
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Yeah. Well put, Tamara.

486
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I love that question, and I'm happy to feel

487
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.960
years of Graham Cook pouring out of me at this moment

488
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because I'm thinking of the answer that

489
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:49.160
I find it easier to extend that kind of peace

490
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.400
and grace and kindness and gentleness and that response,

491
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:55.960
that godly response to other people on my staff or on my team

492
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:57.920
or on whatever, rather than I do to myself.

493
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So I catch myself a lot in

494
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.680
what I'm thinking or storytelling in my head

495
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:10.040
that expands whatever the situation is into something much bigger

496
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than God ever made it to be, which is that, you know, that's

497
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:18.040
that's this earthly realm storytelling rather than bringing God into the journey.

498
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.400
The one thing that I've learned in the last several months,

499
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God's been really teaching me how to do this probably the last six months

500
00:29:24.840 --> 00:29:27.560
is how to have what I'm calling clearing conversations.

501
00:29:28.080 --> 00:29:32.440
And first with God, before I start trying to have a clearing

502
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:36.200
conversation with anybody else in my team or my family

503
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:41.960
so that what I represent to them is from upstairs and not downstairs.

504
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:46.080
And so if I can get rid of the downstairs with God first,

505
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before I start approaching the challenging people in my world or the situation,

506
00:29:51.600 --> 00:29:55.640
I have yet to conquer really the sense of overwhelmed.

507
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.800
I love how you rephrase this, because overwhelmed seems to.

508
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:07.520
happen in my work world. It doesn't generally happen in my, my, my personal world. Todd,

509
00:30:07.520 --> 00:30:15.200
you can correct me on that. But my work world is where overwhelmed hits. And so I love the

510
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:20.960
rephrasing of that. And I've been reading it in the passion translation while you were talking.

511
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But if you could anyway, write that up and just kind of send it to us to look at.

512
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Yeah, I appreciate that. I also just dropped in the chat the that was the,

513
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you know, there was the new kingdom leadership version, never to be published.

514
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So you guys are raising the same core issue, right? So the core issue around here is what

515
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:53.760
we're talking around is, is there a disconnect? Can we decouple the downstairs from our upstairs?

516
00:30:54.560 --> 00:31:00.480
And it's less about decoupling or what the Bible calls self-control. So remember that

517
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:06.240
self-control is like your pause button, you can get put the pause on your circumstances,

518
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:10.480
you can hit the pause button on the person you're talking to. But more importantly,

519
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:16.960
put the pause button on yourself. So you don't have to get sucked down into the downstairs

520
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:21.680
so that you can be mean and tough. So you can deal with an employee who's not getting it.

521
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:28.240
Then you go back upstairs and be peaceful. You can do both. And there's this is the,

522
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:32.960
this is that pause button is the key. By the way, thanks for all the compliments about Graham. I

523
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:41.440
appreciate that. Because that's Graham was one of the people in my life where I think came at such

524
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:47.840
a critical time. I've known Graham much longer than we've worked together. And we've known each

525
00:31:47.840 --> 00:31:53.600
other in a I think he first came to stay in my home about 2014 or 13 or around there. And we got

526
00:31:53.600 --> 00:31:59.280
to know each other. And, and I remember about a year into that conversation, Graham said to me,

527
00:31:59.280 --> 00:32:03.440
you're one of the few people in the world I can sit to and I feel like it's a it's an equal,

528
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:09.040
you know, and an equal sharing, which I thought was a massive overstatement, because I didn't

529
00:32:09.040 --> 00:32:16.800
feel very equal at all. But kind, but through the process of the own our own deep issues in

530
00:32:16.800 --> 00:32:22.960
business that we had to walk through Bridget and I, it was several years. And although at the end,

531
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the Lord's promise to us is that nothing will become of this. And that's exactly what happened.

532
00:32:27.520 --> 00:32:32.720
Nothing became of it. You know, lawsuits were dropped, and all the other stuff, you guys know

533
00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:39.040
the story. But what I want to bring out here is, it was a phenomenal opportunity in the midst of it.

534
00:32:39.040 --> 00:32:45.280
I remember Graham saying to me, here's your time to learn this, because you're going to help so

535
00:32:45.280 --> 00:32:51.040
many other leaders learn this too. And you know, the best time to learn it is when nothing's

536
00:32:51.040 --> 00:32:56.480
peaceful, you're in the middle of a lawsuit, stuff's happening, your employees are bailing on you,

537
00:32:56.480 --> 00:33:01.200
you know, the revenues and what you thought, you launch a new program, and that collapsed,

538
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:08.160
you know, your new, your new ventures is struggling. Fantastic learning opportunity.

539
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:15.440
I don't believe for a second God frustrates anything we do. But I did. And by the way,

540
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:20.080
the thing, you know, when Graham and I sat down last year, and we said, what's the biggest

541
00:33:20.080 --> 00:33:26.480
contribution we can make in our organization. And we realized that him and I spending two to

542
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:30.560
three hours every week just working on our theology, and its various applications.

543
00:33:31.360 --> 00:33:37.360
I'm so excited to see that those applications. So when we launched Brilliant Church,

544
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:43.440
Richard and I just did four weeks of marriage counseling purely from a new man perspective.

545
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:48.640
You know, if you discovered who your partner was in Jesus, you'd fall in love all over again.

546
00:33:49.280 --> 00:33:53.360
And we went through this, and it was the type of thing I've never taught anywhere.

547
00:33:54.000 --> 00:34:01.360
And not to say that some aren't. But my point I'm making is, now we're making the application here.

548
00:34:03.040 --> 00:34:12.960
This is not a fairy tale, wishful thinking. Well, that sounds lovely. This is a hardcore invitation

549
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:22.639
from the three. And Jesus specifically lays it out for us. He said, come and learn from me.

550
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:27.440
Why did he say that? Why didn't he say learn from the Father? He said, come and learn from me.

551
00:34:28.560 --> 00:34:34.159
And that's why we coined the term direct learning. Because Jesus, Paul later on said, don't do that

552
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:38.800
sin stuff. Don't do all that silly stuff. That's not how you learn to Christ. There is a learning,

553
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:43.760
certainly not an earning. But in the kingdom, there's all about the learning. As you know,

554
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:49.679
the downstairs is, you know, you work your knowledge up until you qualify, you know,

555
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:54.239
becoming a doctor. So you study all the doctor stuff, and then you gain enough information,

556
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:59.840
then you big, a big test, and then you qualify. In the kingdom, you start off with fullness.

557
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:06.480
and then you learn to walk into it so you start with a reward you start with a qualification

558
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:12.240
and then you learn to use it's like become you're made a doctor and then you learn to be a doctor

559
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:19.120
and you learn to be what you are in the lord and i say that because i want to demystify

560
00:35:20.160 --> 00:35:26.000
for me for the longest time somehow in my mind i managed to separate out that spiritual stuff

561
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:32.480
this is real leadership and so i would be you know sweet leading worship on sunday or not lead

562
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:37.040
worship preaching on sunday but then being tough with employees during the week because i thought

563
00:35:37.040 --> 00:35:43.920
that's what it needed i thought i had to be and then i realized from the lord i can be super clear

564
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:50.400
i can hold employees accountable and i can stay upstairs i can call him out and call him up

565
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:57.440
you know and saying this is not who you are you're so much more than this but this thing

566
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:04.240
you just did this could cost you your job that if this happens again you've got 30 days to fix this

567
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and if this is not addressed and that's what it looks like have your resume in order because

568
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:14.560
you're leaving we're going to release you to an environment that will put up with that sort of

569
00:36:14.560 --> 00:36:20.160
thing this is not one of those but hey that's not who you are you're so much more than that

570
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:26.480
start calling him up so you can be super clear as you call them out but then be clear as you

571
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:30.240
call them up and even if they don't necessarily know the lord or they're very young in their

572
00:36:30.240 --> 00:36:35.600
relationship with the lord that's okay you know you can still say things like that in fact i think

573
00:36:35.600 --> 00:36:43.040
recently jenny and i had to do exactly that we had a very very clear conversation and these are the

574
00:36:43.040 --> 00:36:48.800
three things that are causing you but your job is not at risk right now nobody needs to live here's

575
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:55.200
the kindness thing nobody needs to live wondering if they the next call into the office is the end

576
00:36:55.200 --> 00:37:00.000
of their job nobody ever needs to live like that god doesn't do that to you don't do that to your

577
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:06.480
team so when it is like that tell them where the 30 day clock has started in 30 days time this is

578
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what we want to see if that's not there we're done you're out so and it's amazing how many times when

579
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:17.600
you call that 30 days they resign within a week right which is fine you know let them go to a place

580
00:37:18.160 --> 00:37:22.560
which wants to put up with that or maybe there's nothing wrong with them it's just that their

581
00:37:22.560 --> 00:37:28.400
learning is so slow and the gap is growing your team is growing faster than them and that gap is

582
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:34.480
getting bigger and bigger it's unkind to keep people in that space it's just unkind so i i'm

583
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:38.960
trying to be super practical route down to it so what does this partnership actually means

584
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:46.960
i would like to propose that when jesus made this offer he wasn't being transactional

585
00:37:48.080 --> 00:37:53.840
every time you're stressed come and get rest i think a lot of us are in that mode i think ben

586
00:37:53.840 --> 00:38:00.160
you alluded to this earlier i have my moments right what if he wasn't asking for that what

587
00:38:00.240 --> 00:38:07.040
if he was offering a permanent exchange what if we outlawed stress in our lives

588
00:38:08.720 --> 00:38:13.440
what if we said from this day on i'm going to so take the lord up on his offer

589
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that i'm outlawing stress so hey the old the old man still has habits because where does stress

590
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:30.480
come from what is it it's you feeling alone under the pressure you're in right that's would

591
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:37.040
you agree that's the source of stress because if you knew the law was with you like as i-41

592
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promises i'll be with you i will help you surely i'll be with you i'll strengthen your right arm

593
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:47.040
i'll go with you and then he says and everything that comes against you i'll be with you and i'll

594
00:38:47.040 --> 00:38:51.600
make all that opposition as nothing all that headwind you're taking from your markets from

595
00:38:51.600 --> 00:38:56.560
your some of the failures from your learning from your stuff i'll i'll make it as nothing

596
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and then thirdly i'll make you a threshing sledge and you will crush down mountains and make big

597
00:39:02.240 --> 00:39:06.160
issues small that's what god's going to teach you to do but then there's

598
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:14.000
the fourth level that he comes up with so here's what i think is his plan at least the way i'm

599
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:20.160
learning it directly from him it might be helpful to think of a building with floors

600
00:39:22.160 --> 00:39:25.920
not messing with the upstairs downstairs analogy for a second but just a different analogy

601
00:39:27.120 --> 00:39:35.040
level ground level where we have to learn to walk with the lord is from as i-41 i will be with you

602
00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:40.000
so it's he it's it's his presence help i'll be with you i'll strengthen you and so on the next

603
00:39:40.080 --> 00:39:47.680
level up is the next floor up is i will give you protection help when you take on that new

604
00:39:47.680 --> 00:39:53.120
venture when you bring on that new employee when you step out in faith and it doesn't work and all

605
00:39:53.120 --> 00:39:59.920
that stuff happens i'll protect you i'll go with you and i'll protect you the next floor up is he

606
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saying, I will make you a powerful weapon. I'll make you effective in your industry. I'll make

607
00:40:05.200 --> 00:40:10.400
you effective in business. I'll make you effective in what you're doing. That's level three. But did

608
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:15.440
you notice, if you know that scripture, you know that level four exists and doesn't involve you.

609
00:40:16.080 --> 00:40:21.920
Seven times afterwards the Lord goes and says, and I will. And then he says seven things he's

610
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:27.040
going to do. And then he says, and everyone will know the hand of the Lord has done this.

611
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The floor four needs the other three floors to exist.

612
00:40:34.720 --> 00:40:39.680
If you start this adventure, you're about to unleash at level four. God says, I will make

613
00:40:39.680 --> 00:40:45.200
rivers in the desert. Cedars I'll plant in the desert. There will be springs in the valleys

614
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and the poor will be fed and have water. And then he goes through all these miraculous things he's

615
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:59.120
going to do. And there's not a single mention of you in it. That's the plan folks. You want to blow

616
00:40:59.120 --> 00:41:04.320
into that, into the kingdom realm. There's a point in which the King says, I got it. Thanks. Thanks

617
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:10.000
for providing the three floors. We got it. Floor four extends all the way into heaven.

618
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It's not a floor anymore. And notice how they build on each other. It's not like one, you know,

619
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all three have to exist. You can't say now I'm past level one. Yes, you are always doing. That's

620
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why he says three times, I will help you. Level one, I'll help you. Level two, I'll help you.

621
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Level three. And then I will do all this cool stuff. A lot of times as Christian leadership,

622
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:40.640
I've heard is all the level four stuff. I'll do all the level four stuff. Just trust me.

623
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And I don't see that in the scriptures. There's a learning

624
00:41:45.040 --> 00:41:49.760
from Jesus. So why learn from Jesus, not the three? Because Jesus had to learn.

625
00:41:52.560 --> 00:41:56.880
Jesus had to learn. He had to learn from the father. And the same way Jesus learned

626
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is the same way you learn. Because what the father designed to work for Jesus was designed

627
00:42:03.040 --> 00:42:08.960
to work for you. So when Jesus says, be this, do that, let peace reign, let do this, do this,

628
00:42:09.200 --> 00:42:18.400
you have a capability of that type of leadership in you, in him. And that's why you can't do it.

629
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Graham recently proposed the idea that the word yo could be replaced as God's putting his arm

630
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around you. I love that. It's very, very personal. In a business context, he's your, he's, he's,

631
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he's linking with in a true partnership. And a lot of times we say, okay, Lord, you lead this.

632
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And so Lord, no, no, let's lead it together. It's co lead this thing. But to learn to co lead,

633
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:51.200
you have to learn to co know, you have to know what he knows. So co, co leading, means co knowing,

634
00:42:52.240 --> 00:42:59.600
which is the Greek word metanoia to change, we clearly translated as the English word repent.

635
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And what it really means is part of agreeing with God about you agreeing with God about

636
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this partnership, which which then speaks to a very close conversation.

637
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And the craziest thing is God trusts you. You know, sometimes you do. Sometimes you have a

638
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.920
partner and they go out and do something and you just trust them and they're gonna do it right.

639
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:33.120
Other times you, you talk about things, and then you and your partner go and do different things.

640
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:41.520
You know, so I see we're looking for a verse as I 41. Yeah. So I have 41.

641
00:43:43.040 --> 00:43:47.680
Is I 49, by the way, is where I 49 gets its name from, just in case you're wondering.

642
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So let's go through this, this break this down. So there. So here's what the how the Lord taught

643
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it to me. I said, Lord, teach me this. And the Lord said, there is no need for you to carry the

644
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weight of outcomes. I want you to exchange that. I said, for what he says for the delight in our

645
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partnership, the rest, exchange that for rest. And then and then it dawned on me. We all know why God

646
00:44:16.560 --> 00:44:23.440
put you in Jesus, right? Give you a new nature, give you eternal destiny, your adopted child.

647
00:44:24.080 --> 00:44:27.200
We know why God put you in Jesus. But why did God put Jesus in you?

648
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:35.040
Good question, isn't it? You know, a few Christians can answer this.

649
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:41.040
Why did God put Jesus in you, you put you in Jesus, you are hidden with Christ in God,

650
00:44:41.040 --> 00:44:45.760
we get this part, our salvation, our new nature, everything Jesus paid for is ours,

651
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:53.520
we have an inheritance, because Jesus in you is that deep partnership, the oneness of what it

652
00:44:53.520 --> 00:44:59.840
would be like if he were running this business. You are the Jesus running this business, not.

653
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.160
get weird but just for a second if you give me a little latitude there what we're saying is Jesus

654
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in you is the one who's you're partnering with that must mean several things one he has passions

655
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:19.760
about what you're doing he has opinions he wants to hire this person not that person

656
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the lord the lord has if if we can't translate what a normal partnership would be like with

657
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:34.480
someone else those are the same partnerships so the questions then is we may not be asking the

658
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:39.680
lord all the right questions we might be just being in child obedience my lord tell me what

659
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to do i'll go and do it mode and and he's like no we're not that would be weird i don't want to do

660
00:45:46.160 --> 00:45:51.840
that i want to treat you as a son or a daughter i want to treat you at that level so what do

661
00:45:51.840 --> 00:46:00.800
you think we should do so i think it comes down to this key word um and that is and then i'm gonna

662
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:07.600
wrap this up jesus said this is eternal life you know jesus defined what eternal life was

663
00:46:07.600 --> 00:46:14.640
does anyone know what he defined as eternal life top of your head yeah that you may know

664
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:22.640
the one true god and jesus christ whom he sent so eternal life is knowing jesus knowing your

665
00:46:22.640 --> 00:46:28.000
partner knowing the father knowing his heart knowing the holy spirit and then he said the

666
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glory he's praying to the he's praying to to the father and he says father the glory you have given

667
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me i've also given them so that word glory is an interesting word because it speaks of an exalted

668
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:46.320
state by the way that's where brilliant perspectives gets its name its root source is

669
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:52.080
this higher perspective this exalted state the living upstairs if you like there's a glory

670
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:57.840
which is this unbelievable lightness of being and massively effective

671
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people can't people who aren't upstairs can't do this and i just haven't seen a lot of teaching

672
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around okay this is how you leave from your glorious exalted state but let's be i'm sure

673
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the lord is gonna i'm sure there's many who are going to be doing this and i'm sure many are i

674
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just haven't heard them but that doesn't mean they don't exist so if you're up for the plan here

675
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:31.120
i'm up for the plan so i asked the father because we're all into this direct learning thing you know

676
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now we're talking about jesus i said jeez if you sat down if if we invited you as the special guest

677
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:40.240
to our inner circle which you are anyway because we all brought you here so obviously he's here

678
00:47:41.520 --> 00:47:47.920
we brought him into the meeting right so um i we don't we don't have an orphan spirit so we know

679
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:52.400
he would just talk to us so i said so i'll put myself out on behalf of these leaders

680
00:47:53.040 --> 00:48:00.000
tell me how you would teach us if you said it to us straight and so i wrote that for you

681
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:08.080
see see how this sounds so this is jesus this is my impression uh full disclosure my

682
00:48:08.080 --> 00:48:12.320
understanding of how jesus would teach us this directly if he were our special guest here today

683
00:48:17.040 --> 00:48:24.080
beloved you're my bride you're the object of my affection i love you and i adore you

684
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:30.000
i want you to be a part of my life as much as i want to be part of yours

685
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:38.080
i want to be in your leadership with you i've already paid a price for you to have a glorious

686
00:48:38.080 --> 00:48:46.000
inheritance this includes your leadership how you lead brings life to those around you

687
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:56.720
my kingdom is being built by such kingdom leaders your leadership is meant to be like no other

688
00:48:56.720 --> 00:49:07.280
because you and i are one there are no limits to your leadership in me there is no need to carry

689
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:15.200
the weight of the outcomes rather i want you to be delighted in our partnership together

690
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:24.320
my partnership is easy it is pleasant to you and it is so effective it will amaze you

691
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:35.760
i desire that you be a leader that has an inner lightness of being because your confidence is in

692
00:49:36.160 --> 00:49:45.280
me as you learn to lean on our partnership you'll live astonished by my goodness

693
00:49:46.560 --> 00:49:55.200
you will learn you already have all the favor you need from heaven because you are in me and i

694
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.920
am in you let me teach you how

695
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.560
are to let that favor go before you

696
00:50:03.560 --> 00:50:05.800
and make a way for your business.

697
00:50:07.940 --> 00:50:12.260
Every day, I ask you to make this exchange.

698
00:50:12.260 --> 00:50:14.180
Give me the weight of outcomes,

699
00:50:14.180 --> 00:50:18.740
and in return, you find rest for your soul.

700
00:50:18.740 --> 00:50:21.080
I love our learning together.

701
00:50:21.980 --> 00:50:26.600
I will teach you my ways in your business specifically.

702
00:50:27.600 --> 00:50:32.600
You will discover my passion for leading together with you.

703
00:50:32.600 --> 00:50:34.460
I have a dream for our partnership

704
00:50:35.460 --> 00:50:38.940
and every venture that we embark on together.

705
00:50:40.220 --> 00:50:43.840
I can accelerate your learning in this partnership.

706
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.400
I am a quickening spirit.

707
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:49.760
What used to take a year could take a month,

708
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:52.280
and what used to take a month could take days,

709
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:54.600
and what used to take days could take hours.

710
00:50:55.440 --> 00:51:00.440
This is what will make you an astonishing leader.

711
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:04.920
It is not how much you know,

712
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:08.700
but it's how comfortable you are in our partnership.

713
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:12.540
This is our new partnership together.

714
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:17.880
You are free to stop doing things for me

715
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:19.880
and start doing things with me.

716
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.360
The glory the Father gave me, I have given you.

717
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:30.560
You are meant to live an exalted life in me.

718
00:51:30.560 --> 00:51:34.040
Your leadership is designed to be light,

719
00:51:34.040 --> 00:51:36.640
pleasant, and highly effective.

720
00:51:38.640 --> 00:51:40.000
Take up my offer.

721
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:47.680
You're not limited to come to me just when you're stressed.

722
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:52.920
I'm inviting you to live a stress-free life

723
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.080
and amaze those around you.

724
00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:01.400
Make this your permanent place from which you lead.

725
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:05.040
Abide in me, and you will bear the fruit

726
00:52:05.040 --> 00:52:08.360
the Father has prepared before and for you to walk in.

727
00:52:09.720 --> 00:52:10.560
Amen.

728
00:52:10.560 --> 00:52:11.400
Amen.

729
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:15.240
So,

730
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:19.240
did that touch you guys?

731
00:52:19.240 --> 00:52:20.840
I hope it did.

732
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:21.680
Yeah.

733
00:52:21.680 --> 00:52:22.500
So-

734
00:52:22.500 --> 00:52:23.340
I want that.

735
00:52:23.340 --> 00:52:24.180
No.

736
00:52:24.180 --> 00:52:25.000
No.

737
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:25.840
Amen to that.

738
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:26.680
Or do I sign?

739
00:52:26.680 --> 00:52:27.500
Yeah.

740
00:52:27.500 --> 00:52:28.340
You sign, yeah.

741
00:52:28.340 --> 00:52:29.180
Yeah.

742
00:52:29.180 --> 00:52:30.440
Cool things are e-paid for.

743
00:52:32.560 --> 00:52:33.400
Yeah.

744
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:38.400
I can, I'll drop that in the app when we're done.

745
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:40.240
For you.

746
00:52:40.240 --> 00:52:41.760
Yeah.

747
00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:44.240
I just wanted, I wanted to,

748
00:52:44.240 --> 00:52:47.840
to catch the way the Lord talks to me.

749
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:49.400
And the way the Lord talks to me,

750
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:52.240
I realized is the way he wants me to talk to my team.

751
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:57.760
He's modeling the mode and tone of leadership with me,

752
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.880
the same way he wants to model the tone of leadership,

753
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:01.720
you know.

754
00:53:05.040 --> 00:53:08.200
So we can do, we can take on tough things.

755
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:10.320
We can deal with all the tough issues

756
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:12.240
and never be pulled downstairs.

757
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:17.760
We just abide up there in the place of our inheritance.

758
00:53:19.160 --> 00:53:22.360
So, how exciting is that?

759
00:53:25.720 --> 00:53:26.560
Game changing.

760
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:29.240
Yeah.

761
00:53:29.240 --> 00:53:30.060
Yeah.

762
00:53:31.120 --> 00:53:34.560
I always wonder, you know, people, so, you know,

763
00:53:34.560 --> 00:53:37.920
we talk in our group a lot about, you know,

764
00:53:38.640 --> 00:53:43.280
find your fight and you don't have to have an opinion

765
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:44.440
on every fight.

766
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:46.840
You just have to have his opinion on your fight.

767
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:50.240
And that frees you up from all this politics

768
00:53:50.240 --> 00:53:53.400
and this stuff and the stuff that's going on in society.

769
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:55.520
And, you know, do I have to have an opinion on this

770
00:53:55.520 --> 00:53:56.360
and this and this?

771
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:59.040
I don't, I don't have to opinion on all of this.

772
00:53:59.040 --> 00:54:01.760
And, you know, if something comes towards me,

773
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:05.120
I can pray and bless and help others who are doing it,

774
00:54:05.120 --> 00:54:08.080
but I don't have to make their fight my fight.

775
00:54:08.080 --> 00:54:11.400
And I think for me personally,

776
00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:13.440
this is very deeply personal,

777
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:15.880
my fight is to change leadership.

778
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:18.440
I wanna change our business around and led,

779
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:20.120
and I wanna change our families are led.

780
00:54:20.120 --> 00:54:23.680
That's what Bridget and I have dedicated our lives to this.

781
00:54:23.680 --> 00:54:27.120
And we wanna also change our ministries are led.

782
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:30.520
Because it's all great when you're part of,

783
00:54:30.520 --> 00:54:31.600
when you're in the ministry,

784
00:54:31.600 --> 00:54:34.360
and then when you get behind the scenes,

785
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:37.040
my goodness, you go, are we really even a ministry?

786
00:54:37.040 --> 00:54:38.440
We're a church?

787
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:41.600
Whoa, you know, why is that?

788
00:54:41.600 --> 00:54:44.320
And why do 70% of pastors in their lives

789
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:45.680
not serving the Lord at all?

790
00:54:45.680 --> 00:54:46.800
I'm not talking about being in the ministry,

791
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:48.960
I'm just not serving the Lord at all.

792
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:51.160
Because what happened is their inner world,

793
00:54:51.160 --> 00:54:53.600
what they had to, the territory they wanna try to take

794
00:54:53.600 --> 00:54:55.000
was bigger than the territory

795
00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:57.320
they'd taken in their own hearts.

796
00:54:57.320 --> 00:54:59.320
Until you take that territory upstairs,

797
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:00.320
it's very dangerous.

798
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.880
to try to take that territory downstairs. And God in His kindness will often not let us do that.

799
00:55:05.600 --> 00:55:10.240
He will not let us extend ourselves to something that the pressure outside will be greater than

800
00:55:10.240 --> 00:55:15.360
the pressure inside, and therefore we implode. That's why you see ministries marriages implode.

801
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:18.960
What's happened is they've built beyond their inner world. They've built beyond what their

802
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:23.520
marriages can support, beyond what their inner life can support. So I have this dream.

803
00:55:24.160 --> 00:55:28.800
What if we created kingdom leaders who functioned like we just talked about,

804
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:33.760
who had this lightness of being, were massively effective, stayed upstairs, always at peace,

805
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:41.600
totally calm, dealt with the issues super head on, no messing about when it came to dealing with

806
00:55:41.600 --> 00:55:47.440
and calling out stuff. Can call it out, but can also call it up. And people around them feel

807
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:51.680
it's so life-giving. They're like, I will do anything. I don't believe what they believe,

808
00:55:51.680 --> 00:55:55.520
but my goodness, whatever they believe, I love it because I'm the beneficiary of it.

809
00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:59.840
And that they don't want, they don't have to wonder

810
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:03.120
what it would be like to have Jesus lead their team because they've got you,

811
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:13.520
Christ in you, the hope of glory. So there we go. That's my fight. Welcome.

812
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:20.960
Welcome to the kingdom. I always want to talk about the king more than I talk about the kingdom.

813
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:24.720
I'm always nervous when I hear kingdom, kingdom, kingdom, kingdom, kingdom. Oh yeah, PS king,

814
00:56:24.720 --> 00:56:30.320
kingdom, kingdom, kingdom, kingdom, PS king. I don't like this. I don't think that's an

815
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:34.960
upstairs view. I think it's a downstairs excitement about the kingdom. And I don't

816
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:44.560
want that for me and for the people around us. So, okay. Let me ask you quickly where we can

817
00:56:44.560 --> 00:56:48.640
jump straight into a little bit of hot seat stuff. We can go to section two, but before we do that,

818
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:54.320
any thoughts, what's your takeaway? It'd be great to have some feedback. I'm not looking for

819
00:56:54.320 --> 00:57:00.240
compliments. I'm looking for what helped you. What are your, were you just right now when we

820
00:57:00.240 --> 00:57:06.560
read that direct learning piece, what did the Lord open up in your own heart? Love to hear.

821
00:57:08.080 --> 00:57:13.120
Why don't I give everyone a shot? I heard the, the word permissions, you know, that

822
00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:21.280
God gives me permissions to do and go certain ways. And that's one of the first questions I

823
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:28.480
think I have to ask is, do I have permission? Not only in my personal life, but in business life

824
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:34.560
too, you know, do we have permission to take this territory or not? And I spend, spin my wheels a

825
00:57:34.560 --> 00:57:42.480
lot of times going places that I don't have permission for. So that was what I heard.

826
00:57:44.080 --> 00:57:47.280
That's fantastic, Rowan. Jenny, do you want to go next?

827
00:57:49.200 --> 00:57:57.280
Oh, sure I can. I think the thing is that is really, I'm just thinking about right now is

828
00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:02.880
the internal territory that we take in order to take the external territory, because it's always

829
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:08.720
about the relationship that we have with him first and foremost, and out of that place of connection

830
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:15.840
and growth in him, we take the external territory. And so, and I like the levels that you have,

831
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:22.400
because that goes in levels and layers, and we're constantly learning in those levels and layers.

832
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:26.560
So that's really what's sitting with me right now. That's great. Bridget?

833
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:34.240
I love those levels. And, you know, I think when you really learn to depend on him,

834
00:58:34.240 --> 00:58:39.840
then he takes into a whole new level of abundance. And we, it's not up to us anymore,

835
00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:44.640
but we do have to come and partner ourselves with him. But I also love that permission that

836
00:58:44.640 --> 00:58:51.520
Robin spoke of, I think that we tend to sometimes have a very limited expectation of the Lord and

837
00:58:51.520 --> 00:58:57.520
what he can do in our business. And I think being able to just expand that is wonderful and be,

838
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:03.360
you know, moving his permission. Yeah, well, but for those who don't know,

839
00:59:04.080 --> 00:59:08.880
Jenny is here as the leader of Brilliant Perspectives and Bridget on Brilliant Church.

840
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:13.040
So they're here in their own right in their own area of responsibility, just so that, you know,

841
00:59:13.040 --> 00:59:23.360
so that's their application. Todd? Partnering with Jesus, I don't know, it just hit me different

842
00:59:24.160 --> 00:59:32.720
and not being responsible for the outcome. And so that allowed me to focus internally on

843
00:59:33.680 --> 00:59:41.040
getting Jesus in the partnership of creating the business and being able to do my part better.

844
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:46.320
And then instead of being split on like, I'm also responsible for the outcome.

845
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:50.080
Now it's just being, what is it called me to do? What's my assignment here?

846
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:53.920
So that was very supportive of what you said. Thank you.

847
00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:57.920
And Tamara, do you want to follow?

848
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:11.980
I do. I have lived the last several years of my life soaking with Graham, but the voice

849
01:00:11.980 --> 01:00:20.880
that you spoke from your heart as Jesus, I instantly heard his voice. So that was very

850
01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:35.360
precious to me, because I could take it in. I feel emotional about that. I'm not in this alone.

851
01:00:36.160 --> 01:00:38.640
No, you're not. I have a really powerful partner.

852
01:00:39.520 --> 01:00:46.960
Yep. And I get to do my part, and he gets to do his. And how much easier in life is that?

853
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:55.600
Yeah. I don't have to know everything he does. Yeah. You know, so I just appreciated the stepping

854
01:00:55.600 --> 01:01:01.520
into hearing him coming at from, you know, the words you said, speaking at it from the perspective

855
01:01:01.520 --> 01:01:08.320
of, it's almost like, will you get out of my way and let me do my job? It's kind of where I took

856
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:15.520
that. And he's like, I just, please let me do my part. And I've given you your part. You're going

857
01:01:15.520 --> 01:01:19.920
to be awesome at it, but let me do mine. Stop taking mine. You know, it's that I have to be in

858
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:27.440
control of all things moment. So I appreciated that perspective from him to be able to

859
01:01:28.240 --> 01:01:32.800
kindly say, get out of my way and let me do my part. So thank you.

860
01:01:33.520 --> 01:01:36.000
Yeah. Rich, what did you get?

861
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:46.560
Let's see. No, I would have to agree with Robin. It was definitely that moment of from that

862
01:01:46.560 --> 01:02:00.320
perspective. It's all, this is newer on my end. So, and I'm more of a person that absorbs,

863
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:13.440
thinks it through, and then digests it and gets it out. So I'm, I'm soaking this in.

864
01:02:16.080 --> 01:02:20.240
Most welcome. We're all learning. So no wrong answers, Ben.

865
01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:27.600
So the media. No, to Ben, it's fine. Yeah. Sorry, Ben and Glenn sound the same. I suddenly realized.

866
01:02:27.600 --> 01:02:38.480
I, I'm, I'm, I'm just enjoying his presence. That was beautiful. An invitation. I feel like just a

867
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:45.600
beautiful invitation to, to trust him. Those, those different floors. I think I do see the

868
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:52.320
progression and I've, and I've got to taste it, you know, just taste it. Man, I,

869
01:02:55.120 --> 01:03:02.240
he is brilliant. And I love, like, if, if I could, if I could, you know, just continue to walk in

870
01:03:02.640 --> 01:03:18.720
obedience and faith, you know, it's, it's amazing what he accomplishes around us. So I, I, it was

871
01:03:18.720 --> 01:03:26.640
absolutely beautiful and an invitation that, man, is so, I want more, you know, I want more.

872
01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:31.680
Yeah. Oh, thank you. Glenn, since we double booked you.

873
01:03:35.600 --> 01:03:40.400
Like Todd, what really stood out to me was the freedom of not having to carry the weight of

874
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:47.040
outcomes. That, that is, I think that's where a lot of that stress comes from. It's just that,

875
01:03:47.040 --> 01:03:52.080
that feeling like you're alone, you're having to carry everything. That's not the case. And then

876
01:03:52.080 --> 01:03:57.040
the comment about, you know, the Lord's partnership is, is not transactional. You know,

877
01:03:57.040 --> 01:04:00.640
if we shift into sort of servant mode, then it tends to become transactional,

878
01:04:00.640 --> 01:04:06.720
but we send them out, send them out. And that's, that's that partnership. And I think that's so

879
01:04:06.720 --> 01:04:12.480
incredibly free and, and joyful. So, yeah. So good. Yeah. Bruce.

880
01:04:14.160 --> 01:04:19.520
Yeah. I love the idea of the, the doing this with me, not for me, I think. And then the,

881
01:04:19.520 --> 01:04:23.280
the, the partnership that got a bunch of notes, but that's what really stood out to me.

882
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:31.280
And I imagine it like, like you said, if you, if you were doing a partnership of some kind and you,

883
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:35.040
you know, if you were the technical founder and you had someone who was insanely good at sales

884
01:04:35.040 --> 01:04:41.200
and marketing, and then as a technical founder, you were doing it for, you're trying to do sales

885
01:04:41.200 --> 01:04:46.960
like for that person. And he's like, oh, this is, that's really good. Like, do you want to let me

886
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:51.440
do the sales? Cause I can do the sales if you want, like I feel like that's a little bit of

887
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:56.240
the Holy spirit, just like sharing you know, that, and so it's, that is the with me. Hey,

888
01:04:56.240 --> 01:04:59.920
like, how about you do the sales and marketing and I'll do, okay, that's a much better idea.

889
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.640
idea, you know, and it's the doing it with them. And then, of

890
01:05:03.640 --> 01:05:06.560
course, doing it in each of those roles, you know, if you're

891
01:05:06.560 --> 01:05:09.240
a founder, you're, you're typically bouncing, wearing a

892
01:05:09.240 --> 01:05:12.400
lot of different hats, but it is partnering with Lord in each of

893
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:16.240
those those things and doing, okay, let's do this role

894
01:05:16.240 --> 01:05:18.480
together. Like, let's do that role together. So I think that

895
01:05:18.520 --> 01:05:20.280
that's what was kind of stood out to me.

896
01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:25.560
Love it. Love it. Tyler. Now we'll go to Jeremy.

897
01:05:26.560 --> 01:05:34.280
Yeah, I mean, I know my biggest moments of growth here has been

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with the Lord, like it's been fully when he's told me

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something or directed my thoughts or my steps. And like,

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I think this morning, I was just reminded by well, direct

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learning in general, and then that process of learning of

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here, learn and then become. And that was really, really good.

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Like I asked the question earlier, you know, how do you,

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how do you hold someone accountable from a place of

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rest, you know, and the thought that I was getting was me, I

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just need to be a father to him. Like I've got to come to him as

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a father, and ask questions. And like Jesus would do. I mean, I

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preached on a last weekend, but like he answered everything

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with a question. But it was still an answer. You know, like

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he, which could be frustrating, but at the same time, like he,

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he wanted learning to take place through the answer. And so I've

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got to remind myself to be patient enough to ask questions.

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And just be a father to those around me and not worry about

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the outcome so much. So very good. Jeremy.

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Well, you know, something that just that I've just that always

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kind of comes to me and definitely has been been, I've

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been hearing and, and what you spoke is just how, you know, in

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the in the kingdom, how everything is just there's a

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flow, you know, and it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's

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just there's a flow, you know, and that's kind of how the

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spirit likes to, to operate. And that's that light, you know,

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wind in our sails, you know, when we're, when things are in

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alignment, and we're in harmony with him, it's just, it's just,

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there's just a default that just happens, it just happens. And,

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and so I feel like, you know, in order, we can only impart what

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we have ourselves, you know, and like you said, you know, just

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taking that that ground upstairs, and it'll naturally

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flow and transpire, you know, and that's that, that's the

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beauty of it. And, you know, I try to keep the practical way to

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say it, sometimes it's be like, you know, a lot of people in the

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culture, it's about grinding, you know, grinding, we're

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grinding. And I like to think of more of a grooving, you know what

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I mean? Like, we're just grooving, it's just less

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friction. With Holy Spirit. It's just like, you know, even when

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you hit turbulence, like you said, that inside pressure, you

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know, exceeds the outside pressure. And that's the

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important key is just, it's all about the abiding and, and

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hearing his voice and knowing his voice so that and, you know,

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naturally, we're going to model his tone because we just we've

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just become, you know, we've become, you know, so it's

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beautiful.

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I love that. Well, your leadership has to become

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pleasant to you at some point, right? Before it'll be pleasant

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to others. You know, about six months ago, the Lord put me on a

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direct learning mode around, I want you to be as kind to

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yourself as I am to you. I was like, oh, my, we have some

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conversation to have. I'm sure many of you immediately connect

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with that. Well, let me let me stop this part of the recording.